Newsgroup: it.politica
Titolo: Long list of countries the Jews have been kicked out of apart from  Germany

Here is a partial list of all the areas from which the Jews have been
banished from, sometimes on numerous occasions, over the last thousand
years
A-S
Africa
1147 - 1212
1790, 1792
Arabia
624 - 628
Austria
1298 - 100,000 Jews were killed over a 6 month period
1420
America
1654
1862
Babylon
586 BC
468, 470
Baveria
1551
Belgium
1370
Chekoslovakia
1745
Denmark
0 - 1700
Egypt
1571 BC
38BC
3BC
66AD
England
1130
1189
1290 - 1655 - Jews are exiled from England. About 16,000 left the
country.
Ethiopia
1950's
1985, 1992
France
561
1182
1242
1306 - 100,000 Jews are exiled from France
1394 - Jews were exiled, for the second time, from France.
1540
1682
Germany
1012
1146-1147
1510
1614
1933 - 1945
Holland
1582 - Jews were expelled.
Hungary
1360
1582
1717 - 1789
Italy
1492
1540 - 1593 - Jews were exiled.
1846 - 1878
Iraq
1969
Jerusalem
70
324
Libya
1948
Lithuania
1495
Mongolia
1919
Netherlands
1444
Norway
1814
poland
1453
1795
1882
1938 - 1946
Portugal
1498 - 20,000 Jews were banished from Portugal.
Prussia
1510
Rome
315
379
Russia
1100
1772 - 1862
1881
1991
Saxony
1349
Slovakia
1380
1744
Spain
612 - 621
694
1321
1391
1492
Sweden
0 - 1792
In his book, “L’antisémitisme son histoire et ses causes,” published
in 1894, noted Jewish author, Bernard Lazare, stated the following
with regard to these expulsions of Jews,
 “If this hostility, even aversion, had only been shown towards the
Jews at one period and in one country, it would be easy to unravel the
limited causes of this anger, but this race has been on the contrary
an object of hatred to all the peoples among whom it has established
itself. It must be therefore, since the enemies of the Jews belonged
to the most diverse races, since they lived in countries very distant
from each other, since they were ruled by very different laws,
governed by opposite principles, since they had neither the same
morals, nor the same customs, since they were animated by unlike
dispositions which did not permit them to judge of anything in the
same way, it must be therefore that the general cause of anti-Semitism
has always resided in Israel itself and not in those who have fought
against Israel.”
Professor Jesse H. Holmes, writing in, “The American Hebrew,”
expressed the following similar sentiments,
 “It can hardly be an accident that antagonism directed against the
Jews is to be found pretty much everywhere in the world where Jews and
non-Jews are associated. And as the Jews are the common element of the
situation it would seem probable, on the face of it, that the cause
will be found in them, rather than in the widely varying groups which
feel this antagonism.”
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It wasn't the Jews who put your mom in that brothel. She was a
volunteer.
And Africa isn't a country and has never been a country.
--
Will in New Haven

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Nor was "America" and he misspelled Bavaria.
Looking at his allegations about "America", the first Jewish 
settlers from the Netherlands ARRIVED in New Amsterdam in 
1654.  So he is treating an arrival as an expulsion.
As to 1862, the allegation is highly misleading.  It can 
only refer to an Order, December 17, 1862, issued by Grant 
in his Tennessee campaign expelling Jewish people from his 
Department.  It was a horrible, shameful act, and one 
wonders if Grant were not intoxicated at the time.  In any 
case, the reaction was swift and fierce.  The Senate 
condemned it by a vote of 30 to 7.  Lincoln ordered it 
revoked in early January, 1863.  Grant formally withdrew it 
on January 17th.  In the 1868 campaign for President, Grant 
repudiated the order, claiming it was drafted by a 
subordinate and he signed it without reading it.
-- 
Francis A. Miniter
ως  ουκ  αν  αιων'  εκμαθοις  βροτων, πριν  αν
θανη  τις, ουτε ει χρηστος ουτ’ ει τω  κακος.

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I keep telling you people.  Keep it short.  Just post those countries that 
welcome them. :)

years
And you posted this off-topic article here because?
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It is simply breathtaking to watch the glee and abandon with which
the liberal media and the Angry Left have been attempting to turn
our military victory in Iraq into a second Vietnam quagmire. Too bad 
for them, it's failing.

On Jan 29, 5:59 am, Love Europe Hate the EU
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Oh well, there was one non-English speaking country where they were,
and still are, welcome.
Take a guess!

 
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Yes, people have a tendency to be scared of anyone smarter than they 
are.

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No one knows, so the answer is, India.
Prominent modern Indian Jews include:
1. Helen - great cabaret artiste, acted in hundreds of Hindi movies
2. David - movie star, famous for bald head
3. Abu Abraham - cartoonist and columnist, much admired
4. Gen. Jacob - led the victory in East Pakistan in 1971
Much-admired Jewish institution in Kolkata
Nahoun's Bakery, the very best cakes and biscuits.

 Take a guess
No one knows, so the answer is, India.
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India is NOT 'non English speaking'.
More people speak English than Hindi these days.
English is taught in schools to kids from age 5
-- 
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea. 

 English is taught in schools to kids from age 5
This is like saying calculus is taught at M.I.T. but guess how many
Southies in Boston don't know so much as their multiplication tables?
Or did Mr. Black think the name "Arindam Banerjee" was Norwegian? I
suppose Mr. Banerjee knows something about India, being Indian
himself.
--
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 English is taught in schools to kids from age 5
This is like saying calculus is taught at M.I.T. but guess how many
Southies in Boston don't know so much as their multiplication tables?
Or did Mr. Black think the name "Arindam Banerjee" was Norwegian? I
suppose Mr. Banerjee knows something about India, being Indian
himself.
AB: Look here moron, English was not there in India prior to 1600 AD (the 
time when the English came to India, to trade) and the Jews in India (about 
whom I was talking) were descended from those who came to India long before 
1600 AD.  Even today, most Indians are not fluent in English, and only the 
middle and upper lower classes have some grasp of this language.

 language.
Well you can start by defining 'Indian middle class' here for a start.
The language spoken in Britain when the first Jews arrived in India probably 
isn't comprehensible to anyone much these days outside a university history 
department...
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 Well you can start by defining 'Indian middle class' here for a start.
Say the economically top 10% of the population, some 120 million or
so.  Not that all among them know English, especially women.
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And you have evidence of this?
Or are you just making it up as you go along?
I live in a very ordinary and rather dilapidated block in Bombay of about 
two dozen flats.  It includes resident families from all the major religions 
in India and everyone in the block,  with the exception of servants,  speaks 
reasonable English,  including all the children...
Come to think of it,  so does my tailor...
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 Come to think of it,  so does my tailor...
Those who need to make money from outsiders need to speak English
well, upto some point.  Tailors in small towns, villages, suburbs (or
wherever English influence does not exist to impact lives
commercially) do not speak English.
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 Come to think of it, so does my tailor...
Those who need to make money from outsiders need to speak English
well, upto some point.  Tailors in small towns, villages, suburbs (or
wherever English influence does not exist to impact lives
commercially) do not speak English.
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When I go 'up country' I find I have no problems making myself understood in 
English,  indeed I have a problem practicing my Hindi as everyone wants to 
practice speaking English to a real Englishman.
I've visited.
I have to add that as far as I'm aware I'm the only European customer my 
tailor has.   There was another chap,  American I think, who was living in 
the area but he seems to have disappeared this year...
India has changed considerably in the past few years,  and in the past three 
or four years to an incredible extent.
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 All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
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Oh dear.
Sonia Gandhi doesn't have English as her first language...
Her first language is Italian.
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 Her first language is Italian.
In the Indian context, it is English.
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 Her first language is Italian.
In the Indian context, it is English.
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The last time I checked the Italian course at the University of Mumbai was 
in Italian.
That you deny the difference between Italian and English seems to indicate 
that your objection to English is probably political rather than anything 
else.
I'm aware of Gandhi's condemnation of English and his objections to the 
creation of what he called 'Londanistan' which was a Westernized India,  but 
somehow I don't think that's where you're coming from...
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 else.
You seem to have an issue with comprehension.  I don't think I need bother 
to elaborate, to those with intellect worthy of addressing.  I do not object 
to English, and I have never given the slightest indication that I object to 
English.  I merely state that India is not an English-speaking country. 
This is a simple matter of fact.  Just consult the Britannica Year Book, for 
summaries about the languages spoken in India.  Hint: When most people of a 
country state that a particular language is their mother tongue, or first 
language of importance, then that language is the country's language.  The 
figures are usually got from the census.  According to the Indian census, 
most Indians speak variations of Hindi.  Then they speak other Indian 
languages.
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 not make India an English-speaking country.
What on earth would?
I mean,  it's an official language of the country and it's the language of 
the educated classes and it's also the language most business is transacted 
in.
What more do you want?
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 What more do you want?
I don't want anything, except this to be known that India is not an English 
speaking country, as most people in India do not declare English to be their 
mother tongue, or consider it to be their first language of preference in 
communication.
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Interesting that you repeatedly hint at an increase in protectionism
in India. Most Indians I speak to here in Canada (especially NRI
businesspeople) frequently assert the opposite.

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My guess is that the Southern States, especially TN, would have plenty
to object to if there is ever an attempt to remove English as an
official language. Most Tamils I know consider Hindi as alien a
language as English.
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I was trying to avoid the 'Hindi never,  English forever' thing and Tamil 
politicians ranting on about 'North Indian colonialism' as it seems so 
unfair on the guy.
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Interesting that you repeatedly hint at an increase in protectionism
in India. Most Indians I speak to here in Canada (especially NRI
businesspeople) frequently assert the opposite.
AB: Protectionism was very much a part of life in India till the late 80s. 
With so-called economic rationalisation, that changed.  Well, these things 
are cyclic. If the leaders want to protect Indian jobs and industry, in the 
current crisis, 60-70s ideas such as nationalisation and protectionism are 
the ways to go. 

 million people) consider English their first language.
And I seem to recall there being an actual association of professional 
Indian English-language novelists.

 unfair on the guy.
Proper Hindi, of course, is the language of a small minority -- but what 
about Hindustani? I understand it's the language of Bollywood, and I'm 
sure that must count for something.


Tariff barriers have been brought down in India again following the recent 
financial collapse.
So far steel taffies have been raised and there's a total ban on toy imports 
from China for safety reasons,  which may be political as there are few or 
no safety restrictions on domestically produced toys in India.
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Hindi and its dialects are an entertaining subject.
'Hindustani' was a construct of Gandhi who wanted it as the national 
language.
It's mainly Hindi with some Urdu added.  Gandhi envisaged a 'pure' form that 
never evolved.
Most Hindi speakers can communicate quite happily in Hindi but it is 
developing regional dialects,  which is very odd.
In Bombay most of the locals (for a given value of 'locals',  nobody comes 
from Bombay) speak something called 'Hinglish' which is a mixture of Hindi 
and English which isn't too hard for a native English speaker like myself to 
follow, even if spoken quickly.
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