Newsgroup: it.politica
Titolo: Is PKK a democratic organisation?

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I am a victim of Turkish oppresion.  I am a Kurd who have grown with
oppressions and prohibitions.
I may predicted you wrong, you may not be a turk but you have grown
with them, because you speak Turkish.
But you wrote as a Turk. you have a similar mentality. You blame PKK
for the oppresion of the Kurds. The oppresion of the Kurds didn't start
with PKK, it started with Mustafa Kemal Ataturk who ordered 28 times to
massacre the Kurds.
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I dont like Marxizm this is true.
But I think evry body must have his opinion and and freely difend it, indeed
if we dont agree.
PKK killing childreen and woman is true. I saw it.
PKK gerilla's took childreen  and woman together in a room and burned them.
I saw cofies destroyed by PKK bombs. I saw people killed by PKK on the flor.
I saw PKK gerilla's hunting inocent people walking on the road.
My father's factory was regularly menaced by PKK.
Don't say me PKK is inocent. It's a laying.
You have writen I'm turkish and I'have turkish mentality cause I'm talkinig
Turkish.
May I exclude you cause you are kurdish ?
Is this your opinon of equality between humans ?
You said you're a Turkish oppresion victime.
Is this giving you the rigth concidering every body talking turkish your
persecutor ?
I have Armenian and Greek origines. Should I hate turkish ?
This is not a mature coportement.
Kurdish problem dont have Ataturk for origine.
Kurdish problem has for origine the division of the world by Europeans and
not Ataturk.
Kurds, Turks, Armenians, Greeks etc. were linving together in Ottoman
empire.
Division of this Empire cause division between minorities.
Everybody wanted his own country. This caused persecution between peoples.
Armenians persecuted Turkish, Turkish persecuted Armenians, Turkish
persecuted Kurdish, Kurdish persecuted Turkish, Armenian persecuted Kurdish,
Kurdish persecuted Armenian etc.
The actual kurdish problem is the result of World War I.
It has not been finished because so many problems has not been solved.
European emperialist powers manipulated minorities for dividing the Empire
by .
At the end of the War those powers reconised Turkey and other countries
thithout concidering minorities living there.
This cause Kurdish become countryless.
At the end of the world Kurdish contunued their revendication for a country
'Kurdistan'.
Officialy a country calling 'Kurdistan' does not exist. Today it's only
neaning a region where plenty of kurdish is living.
Forgeten by the colonialist powers kurdish peolpe has been divided between
diferent countries.
Kurdish revendication is rightful.
The problem is the practice in reality.
All those countries has been officialy reconised and Europe gived his
waranty.
Yet, we can't say here is Kurdistan.
Not any country will accept to give a territory for kurds. This is a
reality.
World War I nationalism is not yet finished.
Turkey and other countries where Kurdish people are divided are not mature.
Ataturk sayed evrybody living in Turkey are turkish.
This is meaning evry body living in Turkey is equal.
Minorities living in Turkey continued to clame for their independence.
Not for practice their culture or religion but for their own country.
This caused a civil war inside Turkey.
In Turkey we were in peace.
If no body wanted to dived Turkey never those hapened.
It's because I'm saying PKK is not a democratic organization. PKK and PKK
like orgazisation are responsable of the persecution of the kurdish people.
Those organization are not mature.
Kurdish persecution in some countries is a reality.
In Turkey this is different.
Ataturk opened the way of democratie.
It's only in Turkey where Kurdish could found protection and comprehention.
Kurdish revendication was to speed.
Kurdish and Turkish people had to wait to become mature to discus this
problem.
Before all, atack to Turkish must stop.
It's because Turkey is an officaly reconised country. You don't have any
chance.
If Turkey don't want to stop, this must come from Kurdish. It's the only
way.
If Turkish or Kurdish don't take initiative, never Kurdish problem will be
solved.
If atacks to Turkey stop, I'm sure an isue can be found.

Sergio, you are the only voice of logic in this "discussion".
But you are wasting your time with this bunch of losers.
one of them suggests that Kurds have thousands of airplanes,
ready to destroy whole middle east. (He probably sincerely
believes in this, a common symptom of inferiority complex)
The others are just trying to prove that you are Turkish,
so that they can just dismiss what you have to say.
Let them go, these people are just in search of an identity...
I have many ethnic Kurdish friends who would never talk to me again,
if I even suggested that they are not Turkish.
PKK means nothing to them, since they don't feel the need
to be liberated from something.
-Burç
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 to be liberated from something.
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