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Titolo: A condizionare le nostre scelte c’è una mancanza di fiducia verso le Istituzioni che ci sta portando a giocare col fuoco

A condizionare le nostre scelte c’è una mancanza di fiducia verso le Istituzioni che ci sta portando a giocare col fuoco
 
Non si placano le polemiche sul decreto che ha introdotto nel nostro Paese l’obbligatorietà di 12 vaccini per i bambini della fascia di età 0-16. Una necessità nata a causa dell’aumentare di casi di malattie che si pensavano praticamente debellate e che invece tornano e mietono vittime. Una su tutte l’esponenziale aumento dei casi di morbillo, arrivati a quasi 2000 nel 2017.
 
vaccini obbligatori in europa 
Non sono bastati i dati certificati dall’Oms che indicano come fra il 2000 e il 2013, la vaccinazione contro il morbillo abbia impedito “una stima di 15,6 milioni di morti”. Sui social ancora in molti si lamentano della decisione presa e lamentano una disparità di trattamento dei bambini italiani in confronto a quelli europei, mettendo in evidenza come nella maggioranza dei paesi del Vecchio Continente non ci sia l’obbligo di vaccinarsi.
 
Guardiamo meglio cosa succede in Europa e capiamo perché nel nostro Paese si siano prese decisioni differenti.
 
In territorio europeo, da un’indagine comparativa del 2010 sull’attuazione dei programmi vaccinali su 27 Paesi Ue (più Islanda e Norvegia), condotta da Venice (progetto Vaccine European New Integrated Collaboration Effort) e pubblicata sulla rivista Eurosurvellance, risulta che 14 dei 29 Paesi hanno almeno una vaccinazione obbligatoria nel loro programma. 
Negli altri 15 invece, non ci sono vaccini considerati obbligatori ma soltanto raccomandati, nonostante questo, però, non ci sono neanche rischi di epidemie – come invece sta succedendo nel nostro Paese – perché il livello di responsabilità della popolazione è molto elevato. 
Fra questi paesi troviamo Austria, Danimarca, Estonia, Finlandia, Germania, Irlanda, Islanda, Lituania, Lussemburgo, Norvegia, Portogallo, Spagna, Svezia, Regno Unito.
 
Entrando nello specifico vediamo che in Europa soltanto un altro Paese ha l’obbligo di alcune vaccinazioni per essere ammessi a scuola. Il paese è la civilissima Germania che, dopo alcuni casi, mortali, di bambini contagiati da morbillo ha deciso di introdurre questa norma.
 
Dando uno sguardo anche oltreoceano, invece, balza subito all’occhio il caso dell’Australia. Per legge, chi non vaccina la propria prole, non può utilizzare alcuni servizi statali e non può usufruire di alcuni tipi di agevolazione fiscale. Le legge ha un titolo emblematico e lascia davvero pochi dubbi sull’interpretazione: “Niente puntura, niente soldi”.
 
Ma perché alcuni Paesi rendono obbligatori i vaccini e altri no? 
 
Il problema di fondo è sempre e soltanto uno: la capacità da parte dello Stato di convincere i propri cittadini informandoli correttamente. Più la politica trova difficoltà ad infondere fiducia e più le popolazioni si lasciano condizionare da dubbi pseudo-scientifici. 
 
Roberto Burioni, medico in prima linea per l’assunzione di vaccini, riassume in maniera davvero sintetica, ma efficace, quello che sta succedendo nel nostro Paese:
 “Perché in Italia le vaccinazioni sono obbligatorie e altrove no? La risposta è molto semplice: perché altrove non sono così stupidi da non vaccinare i loro figli” . 
E aggiunge: “In nessun paese è vietato fare sedere il proprio figlio su di un fornello a gas acceso. Se qualcuno in Italia è così cretino da farcelo comunque sedere ci vuole una legge per difendere il bimbo dalla follia del genitore”.
 
Secondo un’indagine condotta da Vaccine Confidence Project nel mondo l’approccio degli stati del Vecchio Continente verso i vaccini varia notevolmente. 
 
Nel 2016 sono stati messi sotto i riflettori oltre 65mila persone di 67 Paesi e i risultati sono molto interessanti. 
Se Bangladesh, Ecuador e Iran sono i paesi in cui i vaccini vengono ritenuti “più importanti”, in Europa la diffidenza aumenta. 
Anche se i tassi di copertura vaccinale rimangono alti, sette dei dieci Paesi più dubbiosi si trovano proprio nel cuore dell’Europa: al primo posto c’è la Francia (45,2%) e la Bosnia (38,3%), mentre nel resto del mondo la media è del 13%.  
Se si considera, invece, un altro parametro di valutazione, ovvero la scarsa importanza assegnata ai vaccini, vincono la maglia nera Russia (17,1%), Azerbaijan (15,7%) e Italia (15,4%), contro una media mondiale del 5,8%. 
 
Molte più certezze, invece, in Argentina (1,3%), Etiopia (2,1%) ed Ecuador (2,2%), i tre Paesi con il tasso di scetticismo sulla sicurezza più basso.
 
Insomma il nostro scetticismo verso le Istituzioni ci sta portando a giocare col fuoco. 
 
Un gioco rischioso che vede protagonisti i nostri bambini. 
 
Fidiamoci di più dei nostri medici, dei nostri governanti – pur mantenendo sempre uno sguardo vigile ed informato- e non rischieremo di tornare indietro nel tempo inseguendo teorie, per lo meno bizzarre. 
 
Ce lo dice anche Gino Strada, che davvero non può essere additato come schiavo dell case farmaceutiche o come servo del potere.

popolazioni si lasciano condizionare da dubbi pseudo-scientifici.
 
 
"massivan"
 
Qui di pseudo non c'è nulla:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W2MJbcgn1g
 
 
world's leading vaccine expert, Dr. Maurice Hilleman
confession:
 
"Abbiamo importato l'AIDS"
 
This stunning censored interview conducted by medical historian Edward
Shorter for WGBH public television (Boston) and Blackwell Science
was cut from The Health
 
Century due to its huge liability--the admission that Merck drug company
vaccineshave traditionally been injecting cancer viruses (SV40 and others)
in people worldwide.
 
This segment of In Lies We Trust: The CIHollywood & Bioterrorism,
produced and freely contributed by consumer protector and public health
expert, Dr. Leonard Horowitz,  features the world's leading vaccine expert,
Dr. Maurice Hilleman, who explains why Merck's vaccines have spread
AIDS, leukemia, and other
 
 

 "Abbiamo importato l'AIDS"
 
No, di pseudo non c'è nulla, c'è solo un falso. 
 
Se chi fa dichiarazioni simili intende dire quello che capito tu, avrebbe già 150 anni di galera.
 
Il virus dall'Aids appare per la primo volta decenni fa: si tratta di un virus molto mutante che attacca le difese dell'organismo e contro cui da decenni si spendono miliardi su miliardi nella speranza di riuscire a trovare un vaccino.
Per ora miliardi buttati dalle cattivissime multinazionali....
 
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"massivan"
 
Se avessi fatto io il video ti troveresti in tribunale
per la domostrazione del falso ma è della Turner
Broadcasting System (TBS).
 
Poi  il Dr. Maurice Hilleman non potrebbe essere
condannto perche' e' deceduto nel 2005.
 
E quella confessione la fece per liberarsi
la coscienza, sapendo prossima la sua
fine.
 
 
http://www.whiteoutpress.com/timeless/the-confession-that-merck-pharma-created-spread-aids/
 
 
February 7, 2014
 
The Confession that Merck Pharma created, spread AIDS
No modern disease is more controversial or debated than HIV/AIDS. Most 
disease-causing viruses, bacteria or fungi have been on Earth for millions 
of years. But something began happening in the mid-nineteenth century that 
created dozens of new cross-mutated viruses, including bird-human, 
pig-human, and most fatal and notorious of all: monkey-human, or HIV/AIDS. 
From the Whiteout Press Timeless section.
 
Ever since AIDS first appeared in the early 1980's, rumors have persisted 
over where the incurable and fatal disease came from. The world's most 
respected doctors and scientists, including the National Cancer Institute in 
Washington and the Pasteur Institute in Paris, rushed to take apart this new 
virus to discover what it was and what caused it. After decades of research 
by those two and thousands more, two facts have been universally agreed 
upon - the new virus originated in Africa and it is a human-monkey virus.
 
Those two admissions have led to jokes, assumptions and even cruel innuendo 
over how the disease came to be after millions of years. But absent from the 
decades of jokes and assumptions about eating monkey brains or human-monkey 
sexual intercourse creating AIDS, was any factual scientific explanation 
regarding where HIV/AIDS really did come from.
 
For 35 years, it seems governments and the scientific and medical 
communities have been content with letting the world believe that HIV/AIDS 
was accidentally invented when some poor African either ate an infected 
monkey, which is hard to believe since it's been such a common diet for 
centuries, or he had sex with an infected monkey. But is that really how 
AIDS was created?
 
The Coming Plague
 
http://www.whiteoutpress.com/timeless/the-confession-that-merck-pharma-created-spread-aids/
 
 
In 1996, the young cable TV company Turner Broadcasting System (TBS) 
produced and aired a two-part documentary titled, 'The Coming Plague'. In 
typical Ted Turner fashion, the series took a frightening look at the 
various infectious diseases circulating the world today that could possibly 
cause the next deadly pandemic. One part of the two-day show discussed the 
value of vaccines in preventing the next global epidemic.
 
It was during this section of the TBS documentary that filmmakers dug up and 
included a decades-old audio recording of a discussion between a half dozen 
of the world's foremost vaccine inventors. Included in the casual, 
light-hearted debate are historian and doctor Edward Shorter, Dr. Albert 
Sabin (namesake of the Sabin Vaccine Institute), and most importantly, Dr. 
Maurice Hilleman - Chief of the Merck Pharmaceutical Vaccine Division. These 
are the microbiologists that created the world's first generation of 
vaccines, including the famed polio vaccine in 1953.
 
Among the confessions made by Merck's Dr. Maurice Hilleman are the 
revelations that the pharmaceutical giant knowingly and willingly injected 
tens of thousands of unsuspecting human test subjects with vaccines tainted 
with a host of horrifying micro-organisms. As detailed in 2013 in the 
Whiteout Press article, 'Measles Outbreak heats up Vaccine Debate,' the 
world's earliest vaccines from drug companies like Merck contained the 
cancer-causing SV40 virus, as well as the AIDS-causing "monkey virus". 
HIV/AIDS didn't have a name in the 1950's, 60's and 70's. Since it was a 
virus that only existed in monkeys, it was simply called, "the monkey 
 virus."
 
Dr. Maurice Hilleman & Merck accidentally invent HIV/AIDS
 
For as plain and obvious as Dr. Hilleman's admission is of accidentally 
creating and spreading the HIV/AIDS virus in this taped group discussion, it's 
probably no wonder this historic audio clip is so rarely brought to the 
public's attention. In it, Hilleman explains how Merck's insistence on 
producing vaccines and rushing them to market caused him and the rest of the 
corporation's scientists to release vaccine concoctions that they knew 
contained deadly viruses and diseases, including the monkey virus.
 
 
In fact, in one section of the discussion, Hilleman explains to group 
laughter from fellow scientists and vaccine developers about how much 
difficulty he had finding African monkeys to grind up and put in the 
vaccines that weren't infected with the fatal "monkey virus". The history 
lesson details how AIDS may have jumped from monkeys to humans in Africa, 
but it made a pit stop in America first.
 
Summing up the below audio taped recollection, Hilleman explains how Merck 
imported infected monkeys, put them in vaccines for humans in US labs, and 
sent the vaccines back to Africa where they were tested on unsuspecting 
victims. It was at that moment that HIV/AIDS was born and the 'monkey virus' 
not-so-mysteriously became a 'human-monkey virus'.
 
Transcript of group discussion
 
Years after Dr. Maurice Hilleman retired from leading Merck's Vaccine 
Division, he and fellow vaccine pioneers gathered to discuss the early days 
of vaccine development. The below transcript is from the documentary 
originally produced by Dr. Leonard Horowitz and released by TBS in 1996. It 
was also recently made available by NaturalNews.com.
 
From the 1996 Turner Broadcasting System (TBS) special, 'The Coming Plague.' 
Video courtesy of Natural News.
 
Dr. Horowitz (introduction): "Listen now to the voice of the world's leading 
vaccine expert Dr. Maurice Hilleman, chief of the Merck Pharmaceutical 
Company's Vaccine Division, relay this problem he was having with imported 
monkeys. He best explains the origin of AIDS. But what you are about to hear 
was cut from any public disclosures."
 
Dr. Hilleman: "I think that vaccines have to be considered the bargain 
basement technology for the twentieth century."
 
Film Narrator: "Fifty years ago when Maurice Hilleman was a high school 
student in Miles City, Montana, he hoped he might qualify as a management 
trainee for the local JC Penny store. Instead, he went on to pioneer more 
breakthroughs in vaccine research and development than anyone in the history 
of American medicine. Among the discoveries he made at Merck are vaccines 
for mumps, rubella and measles."
 
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Dr. Shorter: "Tell me how you found SV40 in the polio vaccine?"
 
Dr. Hilleman: "Well, that was at Merck. Yeah, I came to Merck. And uh, I was 
going to develop vaccines. And we had wild viruses in those days. You 
remember the wild monkey kidney viruses and so forth? And finally after six 
months I gave up and said that you cannot develop vaccines with these damn 
monkeys. We're finished and if I can't do something I'm going to quit, I'm 
not going to try it. So I went down to see Bill Mann at the zoo in 
Washington DC and I told Bill Mann, I said, Look, I got a problem and I 
don't know what the hell to do. Bill Mann is a real bright guy. I said that 
these lousy monkeys are picking it up while being stored in the airports in 
transit, loading, off-loading. He said, very simply, you go ahead and get 
your monkeys out of West Africa and get the African Green, bring them into 
Madrid, unload them there. There is no other traffic there for animals. Fly 
them into Philadelphia and pick them up. Or fly them into New York and pick 
them up, right off the airplane. So we brought African Greens in and I 
didn't know we were importing the AIDS virus at the time."
.It was you who introduced the AIDS virus into the country. Now we know! 
(laughter) This is the real story! (laughter) What Merck won't do to develop 
a vaccine! (laughter)."
 
AIDS & Cancer - two confessions in one
 
The documentary goes on to include interviews with both Dr. Maurice Hilleman 
and Dr. Albert Sabin, Merck's two top competing vaccine developers in the 
1960's and 70's. Almost surprisingly, the film doesn't expand upon the 
creation and spread of HIV/AIDS from Merck's early vaccine attempts. 
Instead, it goes on to describe how Merck infected millions of unsuspecting 
Americans with their polio vaccine tainted with the cancer-causing SV40 
virus.
 
The film explains how Dr. Sabin and his team worked to develop vaccines that 
used and included "live viruses" while his in-house competitor Dr. Hilleman 
and his team worked on vaccines that used "killed viruses". Hilleman 
reluctantly explains how in his frantic quest to keep pace with Sabin, he 
tested Sabin's vaccine for the cancer-causing virus SV40. The samples tested 
positive, just as Hilleman suspected because the SV40 virus, as he explains, 
was in all the early vaccines.
 
Dr. Hilleman then goes on to detail how he confronted Dr. Sabin and 
explained that he was going to reveal the presence of the cancer-causing 
virus in Sabin's vaccines. Surprisingly, Sabin became defensive and 
dismissed the accusation as warrantless fear due to a lack of understanding 
on the part of those less knowledgeable. Unsuccessful in his warning, Dr. 
Hilleman then explains why little attention was ever paid to the presence of 
viruses like the cancer causing SV40 and the AIDS causing 'monkey virus'.
 
Dr. Hilleman: "We have a new era here. We have a new era of detection. And 
the important thing is to get rid of these viruses."
 
Dr. Shorter: "Why would he [Sabin] call it an obfuscation if it was a virus 
that was contaminating the vaccine?"
 
Dr. Hilleman: "Because, well, there are forty different viruses in these 
vaccines anyway. Yellow fever vaccine had leukemia virus in it. This was in 
the days of very crude science."
 
So, there you have it, right from the mouth of the Merck vaccine developer 
himself. And for those who insist that this kind of deadly deception 
regarding vaccines ended decades ago and could never occur today, just 
remember, that's exactly what the
 
 

 fine.
 
Ah ecco. Fanno parlare un morto? Hilleman è stato il più grande vaccinologo della Stoia. Ha realizzato dozzine di vaccini e salvato milioni di persone!!!!!!!!!!!!
LEGGI:
Maurice Ralph Hilleman (August 30, 1919 – April 11, 2005) was an American microbiologist who specialized in vaccinology and developed over 40 vaccines, an unparalleled record of productivity.
 
 Of the 14 vaccines routinely recommended in current vaccine schedules, he developed eight: those for measles, mumps, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, chickenpox, meningitis, pneumonia and Haemophilus influenzae bacteria.[1] He also played a role in the discovery of the cold-producing adenoviruses, the hepatitis viruses, and the cancer-causing virus SV40.
 
He is credited with saving more lives than any other medical scientist of the 20th century.
 Robert Gallo described him as "the most successful vaccinologist in history".
 
CAPITO?????? Non berle tutte.
 
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 Ah ecco. Fanno parlare un morto?
 
"massivan"
 
L'intervista e' del 1996...
questa:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W2MJbcgn1g
 
 
E' una sua confessione, fatta in occasione dell'intervista
della Turner Broadcasting System (TBS)
 
 
Tutta la storia
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