Newsgroup: it.politica
Titolo: Re: Precautions while travelling in South-Africa

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Fact is the whole "Rainbow Nation" concept is a failure. Just the old
structures keep on running, this still prevents a desaster.

structures keep on running, this still prevents a desaster.
Do you live in S.Africa, George?
Conditions might not be great, but they're a hell of a lot
better than they could be.
You know it could not have carried on as it was.  It is true
that about 100,000 police (and 5% on taxes to support it) wouldn't
go amiss, but surely you don't believe it could have carried on
as it was.
To those thinking of visiting, there are great places and 
great people here.  There are some places you don't want to
go as well, but it will be worth your visit, and your economic
input will help the 'struggle' to avoid 'disaster' too.
-- 
Ken Tough
South Africa


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If he brings his infant daughter, do you promise not to rape her?
BroJack

If he brings his infant daughter, do you promise not to rape her?
America is one of the few countries that executes children.
Do you promise not to execute his kids?
[whatever relevance that is...]
-- 
Ken Tough

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None whatsoever, especially since when one gets executed here, it is
because they are a very bad criminal, while one getting raped in SA is
getting raped by a criminal.  Except when mistakes are made, which is
one of the major reasons I am against the death penalty.

America is one of the few countries that executes children.
Ever hear of Muslims strapping TNT to their daughters?
BroJack

Apparently 
j...@piasystems.com
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Of course it's of no relevance, it was tongue-in-cheek, primarily 
because the comment about a tourist's infant child being raped is 
also stupidly irrelevant.  
Yes, there is a problem with rape in this country, especially as 
a cultural thing.  But the risk to tourists is small.  The violence 
against farmers is also a red-herring, unless the intention is to 
penalize the country as a means of revenge.  It isn't a government 
promulgated policy (as it is in Zimbabwe), but something which sadly 
falls lower on the priority list than some of the other problems.  
The best means to cure the problem is to make the best of what the 
country is, not what you want it not to be.
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No.  They do it of their own accord, as do the Tamil Tigers.
Desperation is a terrible thing.
-- 
Ken Tough

Desperation is a terrible thing.
They do it of their own accord?  That makes it right?  That makes it
better than executing murderous punks?
You Euro-twits have really got your heads up your asses.
BroJack

country is, not what you want it not to be.
Maybe you missed this:
Correct these facts, chump:
EXCERPT: in 1999 South Africa had 121 murders and 119 rapes per
100,000 inhabitants, compared with Colombia’s 69 and 6 respectively
(and the United States’ 5 and 32)
EXCERPT: South Africa has seen the rise of vigilante groups filling
the void left by an incompetent (affirmative action, again – one third
of policemen are functionally illiterate) and violent police – who
between 1997 and 2000 killed 1,550 people, compared with 2,700 killed
by the apartheid regime in 30 years. 
EXCERPT: South Africa has the world’s largest number of persons living
with HIV/AIDS: 5 million of its 44 million citizens are HIV-positive.
Only 42 million are infected worldwide [snip] But Mbeki has repeatedly
stated that he did not believe the "thesis" that AIDS is caused by
HIV, or that it is a virus at all. 
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http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=5979
South Africa: The Downside of Liberation
By Michael Radu

 HIV, or that it is a virus at all. 
South Africa has free anti-retrovirals for all those people with HIV.
Care to suggest when that might be the case in the USA?
Ha!
-- 
Ken Tough

Ha!
We don't believe that raping babies or the juice of the berries from
the boogaloo bush controls HIV.
BroJack