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Titolo: 'Resisting Islamization'

Frontpage Interview's guest today is Rev. Keith Roderick, a defender of
religious prisoners of conscience since 1982 as the Director of the Society
of St. Stephen and Co-Director of the International Taskforce on Soviet
Jewery. After responding to the appeals of Coptic Christians in 1987, he
began working for Christians and other minorities from predominantly Muslim
countries. He organized the Coalition for the Defense of Human Rights in
1993, the largest umbrella organization representing these minorities. Fr.
Roderick also serves as the Washington Representative of Christian
Solidarity International and is the Canon for Persecuted Christians for the
Diocese of Quincy, the only Canon defending persecuted Christians in the
Episcopal Church.
FP: Rev. Keith Roderick, welcome to Frontpage Interview.
Roderick: Thank you.
FP: We're here today to discuss the capability that of non-Muslim minorities
to resist Islamization. What do you think is the reality and where is the
potential?
Roderick: Non-Muslims have survived centuries of Islamization, but just
barely. The fact that they still exist in spite of conquest, violent
persecution and institutional discrimination is remarkable. Unfortunately,
accommodation to the pressures of Islamization has opened their communities
to demise. Non-Muslims in Islamic societies never speak from the perspective
of power. The historic realities of living as a "them" in a society that is
religiously, politically, and economically delineated between "us" (Muslim)
and "them" (Khafir) means that non-Muslims speak from the perspective of
victimization. Their survival response has often been to submit to the
forces of their own oppression rather to resist them. Accommodation as the
strategy for survival has all too often meant abandonment of their cultural
identity and values. Nevertheless, Christians and other non-Muslims have
shown remarkable resilience.
Perhaps resilience itself may be the most powerful force of resistance to
Islamization.
FP: What is the goal of the Islamist?
Roderick: The goal of the Islamist is to order all things in society by
Islamic law. That goal is inherently racist. It assumes that a favorable
balance of power favoring Muslims is the norm. Some argue that co-existence
between Muslims and non-Muslims in the past is a template for today.
However, unless there is the acceptance of true parity between Muslims and
non-Muslims it is delusional to believe that such a peaceful "co-existence"
can be achieved. The imbalance of power always and inevitably works against
the non-Muslim in Islamic society.
Therefore, to be resilient in the face of this reality means that the
minority must seek to preserve the integrity of his own culture. When one
finds that all of the institutions of society are constructed to ensure that
non-Muslims remain second class citizens, it becomes necessary to seek out
one's own cultural institutions to identify with and strengthen. Integration
into a society of mutual benefit presupposes equality and security. When
these are denied to minorities, "co-existence" becomes a facade to justify
the status quo of discrimination and prejudice.
It is true that, even in the deepest throes of "Jim Crow" American society,
whites and blacks lived and worked together. However, this did not signify a
just society. Institutional inequality, prejudice, and insecurity made true
co-existence impossible until the black minority asserted their basic civil
rights and the white majority, under the pressure of that movement,
institutionalized into law equal rights and security for all.
FP: Is there anything non-Muslim minorities in Muslim majority countries can
do in terms of their disempowerment?
Roderick: Non-Muslim minorities should not expect to be saved by a
 "champion" from the United States or Europe. They cannot wait to have
someone else preserve their existence. During the past 20 years Western
countries have been supportive of the self-determination campaigns of
Muslims, but neglectful of others, especially Christians. They should
expect, however, that allies will join them in solidarity. Coalition
building among various ethnic and religious groups who have experienced
jihad and subsequent Islamization is becoming an important instrument of
unity and strength.
When Igbo and Pakistani Christians, Indonesian Christians and Copts,
Maronites and Assyrians recognize a common history of oppression that they
share, they see the value of working to form a common strategy of
resistance. Co-religionists in the West suffer a lack of passion for
supporting non-Muslim minorities. There is often more interest in
inter-religious dialogue than in speaking on behalf of those persecuted. It
is part of the West's self-denial.
Western Christians and Jews were in the forefront of the Civil Rights
movement in the U.S., the campaign to end apartheid in South Africa, and the
Save Darfur actions. Yet, when it comes to defending minorities in the
Islamic world, they suddenly turn timid.
Where is the sense of moral obligation and courage to advocate for Coptic
monks that are beaten in their monasteries in Upper Egypt, or for
Christians, Mandaeans, and Yezidis, murdered and ethnically cleansed from
the land where they are indigenous in Iraq? What happens to Christians and
other minorities in the Middle East, Pakistan, Indonesia, etc. is not
isolated from the fate of Christians in the West who will face soon enough
similar challenges. Inner cohesion and external solidarity are necessary
components to the kind of resilience that resists Islamization.
FP: Why is the West in the state of "self-denial" that you refer to?
Roderick: It is difficult for many liberals, who dominate the pulpits, as
well as the political and academic institutions of the West, to accept
Christians as victims. There is a general misconception that Christians are
new to the Middle East, that they are interlopers, rather than threatened
indigenous cultures, all of whom predate Islam.
I suspect that there may be fear that by drawing attention to Christians and
other minorities who are suffering as the result of Islamization, one might
be accused of being anti-Muslim or bigoted. Political correctness is a
strong force in our society.
FP: In terms of the silence that you discuss in terms of how we have
betrayed non-Muslims in the Islamic world, what do you think are the causes?
For instance, the lib-Left purports to be against racism, yet it says
nothing about the racism inherent in the Islamist agenda? Where is the
outcry from the Left? Why its silence?
Roderick: Someone from the Middle East told me once that Westerners play
games, looking for win-win outcomes. Islamists play for win-lose outcomes.
Liberals have a very difficult time dealing with the kind of triumphal
attitudes inherent in Islamism. They think that everyone should be able to
paint reality in subtle shades of gray. Islamic intolerance and barbarism is
often excused as merely cultural expression.
Several years ago my family was involved in liberating a young Philippina
girl who had been given as a wedding gift to a Saudi student attending our
local university. When challenged about the enslavement of this young girl
by one of his students, the university provost cautioned that we should be
more sensitive, because in Saudi culture this sort of thing is acceptable.
Silence can only be construed as tacit consent of the Left. Two million
Southern Sudanese were killed in the 20 years of terrible blood letting.
This genocide was a direct consequence of the jihad instigated by the
Islamic Front leaders in Khartoum. Religious conservatives were in the
forefront of the movement to halt the slaughter and bring about a
comprehensive peace. When that same Khartoum regime launched its jihad
against Muslims in Darfur, religious conservatives again protested. This
time they were joined by liberals in calling for an end to the violence. In
fact, liberal organizations made it the cause de jour for a myriad of
celebrities. All well and good, but where were they when Christians and
animists were being murdered?
All that the Christians and other non-Muslims of the Middle East want from
the Left is a little more consistency in compassion. The liberal press has
occasionally been responsive to the plight of the Christians of Iraq, but
one suspects that it is not because of an authentic sense of solidarity, but
the fact that the issue provides one more opportunity to show the failure of
the Bush administration.
FP: What must we do to confront the Islamist agenda and to defend
non-Muslims who are victims of Islamism?
Roderick: As I argued previously, resistance must be in the form of
strengthening the non-Muslim communities within. The Islamist agenda is to
annihilate the history and cultures of non-Muslim indigenous communities. We
should encourage the non-Muslim communities to demand their rights and stand
in solidarity with them as they do so. Non-violent resistance is a course
that brings much risk. However, in face of the reality that non-Muslim
minorities possess so little political power to bring about true parity with
Muslims, thus security, this is the only course that remains practical. All
institutions and social-political systems, including Islam, are constituted
by human beings with conscience. There are many who may brutally act
according to blind faith, but there are certainly others who respect the
dignity of every human being. To these we must appeal with the reason of
justice.
FP: Rev. Keith Roderick, thank you for joining Frontpage Interview.
Roderick: It was a pleasure to have this discussion. Thank you.
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Give us back our countries: Stop the criminal multiculturalism ideology
enforced upon the white world against the will of its peoples, leading to
mass immigration from the third-world: Mul-cul + pol-corr = lethal mixture
for the white world. And give us back our freedom: Dismantle all
surveillance technology.

 surveillance technology.
A Genova si stanno raccogliendo firme per un referendum contro la decisione 
del sindaco (chiaramente di sinistra) che in piena autonomia e senza 
consultare nessuno , ha promesso ad un imam la costruzione di una mosche in 
città...
La raccolta è già partita con grande successo.


Conosci l'URL di un articolo su quest'affare?
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Certo che chi fa queste "raccolte firme" dev'essere di una IGNORANZA 
ed INTOLLERANZA SPAVENTOSA.

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Certo,
gli intelligentoni e culturalmente superiori sono solo di sinistra, vero?... 

 ed INTOLLERANZA SPAVENTOSA.
L'unico certo è che gli apologeti del islam sull'ala sinistra sono pieni di 
ignoranza - verso i pericoli del islam - ed intolleranza spaventosa - verso 
i loro compaesani che preferiscono la maniera tradizionale, invece di una 
nuova maniera di vita 'multiculturale' forzata da una cosidetta 'elite'.
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Oggi è il primo giorno
IL quotidiano di Genova:  
http://ilsecoloxix.ilsole24ore.com/
oppure:   
http://www.primocanale.it/
 

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"...L'iniziativa, voluta inizialmente da Gianni Plinio (An) Matteo Rosso 
(FI), Rosario Monteleone (Udc) e poi anche da Fabio Broglia (Pd) ha visto 
via via ingrossare le proprie fila con l'adesione di Roberta Gasco dell'Udeur, 
del centrista Luigi Patrone, della lista Biasotti e del gruppo della destra 
di Gianni Bernabò Brea..."
Sbaglio oppure mi è parso di vedere un PD? 

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Il fatto che ci sia uno del PD non implica che la raccolta firme sia una 
STRONZATA.

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Il fatto che tu sia contro è invece un sigillo di garanzia sulla sua
utilità

 utilità
Il fatto che tu sia un povero pirla che vota Nano dovrebbe far riflettere

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 oppure:   
http://www.primocanale.it/
Grazie per la novità. Sarà diffusa in altre regioni del mondo, con 
l'immagine spaventosamente risibile a
http://ilsecoloxix.ilsole24ore.com/genova/foto_trattate/2008/07/20/SF01000000012B6--370x170.jpg
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 'elite'.
Concordo 

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Mentre l'intolleranza dell'Arabia saudita che non permette la
costruzione nemmeno di una chiesa, non ti da alcun fastidio.
La conclusione è che anche tu sei di una ignoranza ed intolleranza
spaventosa.

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Anche tu sei un povero pirla perchè non difendi la democrazia e la
cultura del tuo paese, ma permetti a dei barbari assassini di
impiantarsi in Italia e di balcanizzare l'Europa intera.

 maniera di vita 'multiculturale' forzata da una cosidetta 'elite'.
Io son contro tutte le religioni, ma visto che la gente ha bisogno di 
un locale per pregare, se vengono concesse costruzioni di chiese (senza 
che nessun sindaco venga a chiedere il permesso), devono essere 
concesse anche le costruzioni di moschee, sinagoghe, tempi buddisti, 
shintoisti e di qualunque altro credo che rispetti nei suoi riti le 
leggi e il rispetto dele regole di civile convivenza. Oppure nessun 
luogo di culto.
La religione di stato non esiste piu' in italia.
Se poi stabilite che un credo sia illegale, dovete prima riuscire a far 
scrivere una legge che lo dica e giustificarla agli occhi dell'opinione 
internazionale, non solo italiana.