Newsgroup: it.politica
Titolo: Sul teatrino degli ostaggi

Ieri qualcuno ha detto, su questo ng, che se fosse stata una manovra
elettorale gli ostaggi li avrebbero liberati venerdì (oggi). Così la gente
non avrebbe avuto il tempo di pensare prima del voto. (mi perdoni, ma non
ricordo chi fosse, forse "silverluc")
E in effetti ha ragione: da martedì abbiamo avuto tutto il tempo di capire
che la storia, così come ce l'hanno raccontata, puzza di bruciato.
Mi chiedo: è stato un errore di calcolo, davvero le elezioni non c'entrano,
o cosa?

"Lela" wrote in message:
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Non tutte le ciambelle riescono col buco.
(oppure)
Il diavolo fa le pentole ma non i coperchi
:-)
-- 
Stardust®
Non avrai altro Dio all'infuori di me, spesso mi ha fatto pensare:
genti diverse venute dall'est, dicevano che, in fondo, era uguale.
Credevano a un altro, diverso da Te, e non mi hanno fatto del male
[Fabrizio De Andrè - La Buona Novella - 1970]

 wrote in message
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Vediamo se fila......la località dove sono tenuti nascosti gli ostaggi era
stata individuata da qualche giorno...è ovvio che la coalizione dispone di
qualche informatore arabo, qualcuno del posto contrario ai terroristi,
magari per motivi religiosi.....qualcuno subodora ( o gli spifferano) che
l'esecuzione degli ostaggi si fa sempre piu' vicina....Berlusconi deve
decidere che fare...certo non vorrei essermi trovato nei suoi panni....un
bel rischio...con tre nuove bare sulla coscienza o con tre fratelli italiani
salvati ?
Rischia, scommette, da il benestare e vince.
Clas

 salvati ?
naturalmente tutto questo te l'hanno detto i famosi servizi,
o l'hai letto su libero?

 :-)
Oppure: tanto va la gatta al lardo, che ci lascia lo zampino. :-)

 Oppure: tanto va la gatta al lardo, che ci lascia lo zampino. :-)
C'e' anche la possibilita' che la politica e l'Italia non c'entrino
un bel niente col rapimento dei tre. Pare che di questi tempi
in Iraq i sequestri di persona a scopo di lucro siano una specie
di sport nazionale. Si sequestra di tutto, si sequestrano anche
gli iracheni tra di loro, e sequestrano perfino gli animali...
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The Rich Have Been Warned to Leave Baghdad
For the Poor There is No Escape from Crime...Or Trigger Happy US Troops
By PATRICK COCKBURN
Baghdad.
Qasim Sabty, a painter who owns the Hewar art gallery in Baghdad, is
scared. "So many of my relatives have been kidnapped that I fear I am
going to be next," he says. He mentions the name of another gallery
owner who had to pay kidnappers $100,000 (lbs60,000) for the return of
her grandson.
Fear of kidnap is pervasive in Baghdad. Mr Sabty is not a particularly
wealthy man but kidnapping comes at the top of his list of reasons why
he feels insecure. He said: "You feel lucky if your son goes to school
in the morning and comes back safe in the evening."
Kidnap is now so common new words have been added to Iraqi thieves'
slang. A kidnap victim is called al-tali or the sheep and the person who
identifies a potential target to kidnappers is called al-alaas.
Suicide bombs and battles between US troops and militias get the
attention of the outside world. But the chronic sense of insecurity felt
by Iraqis is almost equally the result of the impact of violent crime.
At the headquarters of the Iraqi police serious crime organisation,
Lieutenant-Colonel Farouk Mahmoud, the deputy head of the 40-member
kidnap squad, said criminals turned to kidnapping as highly profitable
and almost risk-free. He says: "Their favourite targets are doctors and
businessmen. In 95 per cent of cases, the kidnappers have been tipped
off by somebody close to the victim such as a friend or an assistant."
Usually the family of the hostage is told to call a Thuraya satellite
phone number. The failure of the US security forces to help Iraqi police
track a Thuraya call is a major source of complaint among the officers.
"They gave us the information only once," Col Mahmoud says. "We found
the house where the kidnappers were immediately though the victim, a
doctor for whom $10,000 was being asked, had been killed already."
But the kidnap squad does have its successes. One day an informer told
Major Abdel Karim to look in a house in the town of Salman Pak
south-east of Baghdad. "We found two men bound and gagged," Major
Mahmoud says. "There was a whole family of kidnappers who owned a farm."
He shows a photograph of the two victims, one elderly with white hair
and the other dark-haired and much younger, surrounded by the triumphant
officers of the police kidnap squad.
Not all kidnaps end happily. In one case, the daughter of a businessman
was taken hostage. During talks about her release, her brother shot dead
the kidnapper's negotiator. A few days later the girl's head was
returned in a sack. With horror stories like this making the rounds it
is not surprising that many Iraqi exiles who returned after the fall of
Saddam Hussein have now disappeared. "I am making a little money but not
enough to justify this sort of risk," one told me.
It is not known how many kidnaps there are every month. Many are never
reported to the police.
One man asked Major Mahmoud if he had equipment to track a Thuraya phone
call. When he was told he did not, he said: "In that case, I will handle
this kidnapping myself."
Asked how an Iraqi businessman should try to avoid being kidnapped Major
Mahmoud says brightly, to laughter from other officers: "Go abroad." If
this is not possible, they should conceal the fact that they have money,
watch those who work for them and vary their routine.
Not surprisingly, many wealthy Iraqis decided the safest course is to
move with their families to Jordan. Kidnapping is not the only threat.
The son of one of the richest men in Baghdad was attacked in his car by
gunmen a few weeks ago and the vehicle was riddled. His wife and son
were killed. It is still unclear who wanted to assassinate him but the
random violence is similar to that in parts of Russia in the early
1990s. The difference is that in Iraq there is also the danger of being
killed by the insurgents or the notoriously trigger-happy American
troops.
Being poor in Iraq is no defence against crime. In the heart of Baghdad,
within sight of the heavily fortified Green Zone where the Coalition
Provisional Authority has its headquarters, buses are robbed by street
gangs every day. Ali Abdul Jabber, a driver at the al-Nasser bus
terminal, has watched his passengers being robbed three times. He said:
"On the last occasion, the thieves jumped on board because the doors
have to be open in this hot weather. Two of them stood guard at the back
while two others walked down the bus looking in people's bags and
stealing money and jewellery."
Mr Jabber says: "The whole experience left me shaking, not with fear but
with anger. I tried not to glance back at them in case they might think
I could identify them and kill me. When they saw me glancing at them in
the mirror they told me to look away."
After the robbery, nobody went to the police. "The passengers didn't
even discuss it among themselves because this sort of thing is so much
part of daily life in Baghdad," Mr Jabber adds. He thought that most of
them believed he was in league with the gang.
The dangerous anarchy of everyday life is one reason why Iraqis are so
hostile to the occupation. Even the kidnap squad officers did not have a
good word to say for it. Iraqi criminals are in a confident mood.
In Nassariyah last week, a gang stole a truck with four cows in it. They
demanded a ransom of one million dinars (lbs360) but added that the cows
were voracious eaters and their owner would have to pay a further 50,000
dinars for food they had consumed if he wanted to see his animals again.
http://www.counterpunch.com/patrick06092004.html
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La mosca merdaiola Berlusconi ha recitato il suo AREMUS, anzi stavolta
ha detto che è lui che tira l'aratro, non il bove!
Non si sa mai se è più cialtrone o facciadaculo.
€
Culo Bondi sfondato da Boselli! L'ex-comunista accusava Boselli per essersi 
opposto alla prima guerra del Golfo e il Boselli ha precisato che lui fu a favore
poi chiese alla facciadaculo dove fosse lui 10 anni fa! RISATE COLOSSALI! Facciadaculo Bondi
era un sindaco comunista e sfilava contro la guerra con falce e martello! Il venduto!