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Titolo: Gamista? Simulazionista? Narrativista? naaaa Retro-Stupido per  sempre!!!!!

beh che dire il genio impera....
http://jrients.blogspot.com/2006/02/i-got-your-threefold-model-right-here.html
ma ve lo riporto... però manca il disegnino....
I got your threefold model right here, buddy!
RPG theory time, kiddies! Ron Edwards closed the GNS worship section
of the Forge, so someone has to pick up the slack. As we all know,
every good RPG theory has to divide all games into several vague
categories. My categories are Retro, Stupid, and Pretentious. Any RPG
worth playing will fall into one or more of these categories. Here's a
handy chart:
Retro games make use of settings, mechanics, or assumptions that are
now considered outdated by the rpg mainstream, but these same
assumptions once defined that mainstream. Does a game have classes and/
or levels for no damn reason? That's a retro design element. Do you
have a group of PCs going on ill-defined adventures with little or no
motivation? That's another hallmark of retro design. These games may
be old, or intentionally designed with an old school vibe.
Stupid games do not take themselves seriously. PCs can die horrible
deaths and other grim stuff, but that horrible death might involve
being eaten by a horde of zombie chickens. Big dice charts, such as
wandering monsters or random mutations, are often associated with this
style of game. Most comedy games fall into this category, as do all
the good versions of Gamma World. The new editions of Paranoia and
WFRP look pretty Stupid to me as well.
Pretentious games know that they are better than Retro or Stupid
games. They're not just games, they're cutting edge explorations of
blah, blah, blah. I'm sure you can all list an armload of Pretentious
games: Vampire, most of the rest of the World of Darkness, Nobilis,
various Forge-inspired designs. I'd also put HERO and GURPS into this
category as examples of mechanically Pretentious games. You can have
setting-based Pretension as well: Blue [Rose, Planet], Tekumel, Harn,
etc.
In addition to more a more useful categorization schema, my theory has
another leg up on Edwards's: incoherent play is better. You don't need
laser-like focus on Stupidity, Pretention, or Retro-osity. Retro play
is fun. Stupid play is fun. But Retro Stupid play is totally awesome.
Case in point: Encounter Critical. Similarly, Vampire is plain ol'
Pretentious, but add some Stupid to the mix and you've got Exalted or
Street Fighter: The Storytelling Game. And how about Retro Pretension?
I've got 2 words for you: Classic Traveller.
The big hole in my theory is that black area in the chart where Retro
Stupid Pretention is found. That ought to be the most totally rad
place in the universe, but right at this moment the only game I can
think of that definitely goes there is World of Synnibarr. But that
game is at its best when drifted to Retro Stupid play. Which is really
easy to do. The trick is to not be Raven c.s. McCracken. I suppose one
could argue that Dungeons & Dragons fits the requirements to be Retro
Stupidly Pretentious. But every RPG theory fails the moment D&D is
taken into consideration, so I probably ought to quit while I'm ahead.
o forse Retro+Stupid+Pretentious?
Fabio

 Fabio
Ciao,
Myszka
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Sicuramente ESISTE un sincronismo cosmico, visto che PROPRIO OGGI mi 
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ripensando alle partite in ludoteca di venti anni or sono...
Mo' devo _solo_ tirare fuori la scheda del mio elfo tamarro, Zodiac 
Mindwarp :-)

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 ripensando alle partite in ludoteca di venti anni or sono...
Nessuna comunità ludica è interessata a tradurre questo materiale?
In Italia potrebbe avere molto successo....;-)
MaXiMo

 Mindwarp :-)
grande MAX :)

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Io lo dico DA DIECI ANNI E PASSA... D&D, con il suo regolamento light
e ASSOLUTAMENTE INCOERENTE, rappresenta un adventure game con venature
ruolistiche di alto livello...

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hehehe ^___^