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Titolo: Cantiones Sacrae

Vi risulta che il termine "Cantiones Sacrae" possa indicare un tipo di
composizioni affini ai mottetti ma di esecuzione più cameristica (quanto a
stile o ad ambienti di esecuzione) oppure è un semplica sinonimo?
Chiedo, perché non mi sembra un termine d'uso comune in Italia - appare
invece più spesso oltralpe, perché la musica di Byrd è probabile che venisse
eseguita in piccole cappelle dai cattolici "resistenti" e poi perché su
internet ho trovato questo a proposito di Peter Philips (quasi omonimo del
nostro contemporaneo - o viceversa :-))
"... Philips attendit 1612, apogée de sa carrière, pour publier un recueil
de motets de chambre (Cantiones sacrae) composés pour l'intimité de la
chapelle de la cour. ... et juste avant sa mort son gigantesque Paradisus
sacris cantionibus (106 motets pour une à trois voix et continuo). © Guide
de la Musique Baroque, Fayard "
Ciao a tutti.
Tony
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io sapevo "Sacrae Cantiones" o "Sacrae Cantiunculae"
Direi che sono affini ai mottetti ma in un impianto più sempilice e
caratterizzati da una scrittura meno articolata. Probabilmente destinate a
chiese minori... non certo da basilica.
Saluti,
Simone

 caratterizzati da una scrittura meno articolata. [...]
Ti riferisci anche a Byrd e Philips?
Grazie per la risposta.
Ciao
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Parlo come termine in generale. Conosco le "Cantiunculae" di Monteverdi e le
"Sacrae Cantiones" di Bartolucci

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Credo che quella sia delle Piae Cantiones (sarà solo questione di nome?).
In ogni caso, i testi musicati nelle Cantiones Sacrae (o Sacrae Cantiones)
appartengono alla liturgia di qualche proprio o comune oppure sono legati a
funzioni differenti come vespri, responsori per la settimana santa, ecc.?
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Salve,
ho trovato in rete questo interessante articolo, a proposito delle Piae
Cantiones, ve lo propongo, anche se è in inglese, sperando di fare cosa
gradita. Ciao a tutti
Giovanni Mirabile
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Piae Cantiones
A Finnish Treasure of Medieval Songs
Singing was an important subject in Finnish schools in the Middle Ages.
Pupils were brought up as servants of the Church and they were also
responsible for much of the singing in church. One source stated that the
work's ties with the grammar school in Vyborg (Viipuri) are very clear We
would know hardly anything of these songs, had not a printed edition dated
1582 been preserved: Piae Cantiones ecclesiasticae et scholasticae veterum
episcoporum ("Devout ecclesiastical and scholastic songs of the old
bishops"). This collection of medieval Latin songs was intended for the
pupils of the Cathedral School. The rector of the Turku Cathedral School,
Jaakko Finne (or Jaakko Suomalainen) edited the first edition consisting of
74 songs and a Finnish student, Theodoricus Petri Rutha (who is known by
many names and who was from Nyland, Finland), published  it in Greifswald,
Sweden. At the time, Rutha was a student at Rostock, Germany, near Lubeck.
About half of the songs are believed to be of Finnish origin, as they have
not been found in other sources.
According to the Oxford Book of Carols, "The songs spread in the reformed
Church of Sweden and Finland, and were still sung in Swedish schools in
1700, and in Finland late in the nineteenth century."
It is considered remarkable by some that Piae Cantiones was compiled and
edited by a Swedish Lutheran pastor, and published by a Finnish Catholic
student. This type of interdenominational cooperation was rare in those days
of violent sectarian strife.
The Finnish edition of the songs dating from 1616 under the title Wanhain
Suomenmaan Pijspain is among the earliest Finnish poetry. The Finns Henricus
Fattbuur and Mathias Tolia published the second Latin edition (90 songs) in
Rostock, Germany, in 1625, under the original name.
In 1853, G. J. R. Gordon, Her Majesty's Envoy and Minister at Stockholm,
gave a rare copy of the 1582 edition of Piae Cantiones to the Rev. John
Mason Neale (Warden of Sackville College, East Grinstead, Sussex) and the
Rev. Thomas Helmore (vice-Principal of St. Mark's College, Chelsea). The
book was entirely unknown in England at that time. Neale translated some of
the carols and hymns, and in 1853, he and Helmore published 12 carols in
Carols for Christmas-tide (with music from Piae Cantiones). In 1854, they
published 12 more in Carols for Easter-tide. That copy of Piae Cantiones is
now said to be in the British Museum.
Later several editions of Piae Cantiones were printed. The first English
edition, with scholarly commentary by George Ratcliffe Woodward (1848-1934),
was published in 1910 (Piae Cantiones : A Collection of Church & School
Song, Chiefly Ancient Swedish, Originally published is A.D. 1582 by
Theodoric Petri of Nyland. London: Plainsong & Medieval Music Society,
1910). Concerning this volume, it has been observed:
  Collection of sacred and student songs in Latin for 1-4 voices. This
edition uses mensural notation, but the editor has transposed all songs into
treble or bass clef. In addition, the text is given in a modern font and has
been arranged under the staff so that it is easier to follow.
Woodward also translated and "retexted" (e.g., wrote new lyrics) for some of
the carols and hymns. Woodward also edited numerous other books of carols,
including Carols for Christmastide (1892), Carols for Easter and
Ascensiontide (1894), The Cambridge Carol Book, The Italian Carol Book, and
the Cowley Carol Book (1901, 1902, 1919).
A facsimile edition of Piae Cantiones has been printed as Piae Cantiones:
Ecclesiasticae et Scholasticae Veterum Episcoporum. Helsinki: Edition Fazer,
1967.
The Piae Cantiones collection of medieval songs from several European
countries was one of Finland's greatest musical treasures, forming a link to
the European cultural centers of the Middle Ages.
Other medieval collections of hymns at that time include The Cloister Book
(Denmark, c. 1450) and Thomissøn's Hymn Book (Denmark, 1569). Thomissøn's
Hymn Book and the Piae Cantiones were published after the Reformation, but
both of them contain many examples of music deeply rooted in the Middle
Ages. In some cases the songs have been transmitted virtually unaltered down
through the centuries (for example the Latin Christmas sequence "Psallat
fidelis", which appears both in the Cloister Book and the Piae Cantiones).
In other cases new texts have been written for the old popular melodies that
people knew and loved, and several songs are found in both Swedish and
Danish versions (for example the famous carol "In dulci jubilo").
Sources:
  a.. Virtual Finland
  b.. Ian Bradley, The Penguin Book of Carols (London, Penguin Books, 1999)
  c.. Kirsti S. Thomas and Esther Mendes, A Singer's Guide to Bibliographic
Resources for Medieval and Renaissance Music
  d.. Percy Dearmer, R. Vaughan Williams and Martin Shaw, The Oxford Book of
Carols (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1928)
  e.. Eric Routley, The English Carol (New York: Oxford University Press,
1959)
  f.. Hugh Keyte and Andrew Parrott, The New Oxford Book of Carols (Oxford:
Oxford University Press, 1992)
  g.. William Studwell and Dorothy Jones, Publishing Glad Tidings (New York:
The Haworth Press, 1998)