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Titolo: Il caso Dollhouse

Ma no... i criticoni sono solo Hytok e Vampiro! Vediamo se ora se ne viene
fuori Whedon con una delle sue arrampicate...
http://www.whedon.info/Is-Dollhouse-Tv-Series-in-the.html
Is "Dollhouse" Tv Series in the doghouse ?
Sunday 9 November 2008, by Webmaster
There are jokes, then there are cruel jokes.
According to the midseason schedule Fox released Thursday, "Dollhouse,"
Joss Whedon’s new show, is going to premiere Jan. 13 (that thud you heard
was my heart sinking to the crawl space beneath the subbasement).
In other news, Fox has moved "House" to Mondays as of Jan. 19; more on that
in a moment.
First things first: The positioning of Whedon’s new show inspires gloom, if
not dread and fear as well.
Fridays are regarded as the dumping ground of the prime-time schedule, and
given that "Dollhouse" has already endured its share of trauma and drama
and stop-start production ... well, we Whedon fans believed the "Buffy"
creator when he said, way back when he got back into business with Fox,
that he thought the "Dollhouse" would not be a replay of the "Firefly"
debacle. But darned if the experience so far with this new Whedon show
isn’t a case of déjà vu all over again.
As was the case with "Firefly," a sci-fi chronicle that was famously
ill-treated by Fox, Fox executives and Whedon differed on what "Dollhouse"
should be. And as he did with "Firefly," he eventually shot a new pilot of
the Eliza Dushku vehicle, which concerns a group of secret operatives who
go on new adventure missions each week.
And now "Dollhouse," which fans of Whedon’s earlier work had been eagerly
anticipating, is being consigned to a dead zone on the TV schedule, which
leads one to believe that Fox executives don’t believe in the project, even
after all of Whedon’s attempts to make it palatable.
Sigh. I hope and pray that all the agita has produced a show worth
watching. And I hope and pray that if it is worth watching, Fox executives
don’t sabotage it with bad decisions. Fingers crossed.
Some other notable news from the Fox schedule:
•"House" moves to 7 p.m. Mondays and airs alongside "24," which returns
Jan. 11 and 12. Tuesdays and "House" are so conjoined in my mind that I’m
sure I’m going to forget to watch the show Mondays.
•"American Idol" returns Jan. 13. My anticipation for the talent contest is
not palpable.
•Fox clearly believes in J.J. Abrams’ "Fringe": It’s giving the show the
post-"American Idol" slot Tuesdays.
•Tim Roth debuts in the new show "Lie to Me" after the one-hour Wednesday
edition of "Idol." "Lie to Me" is about "the world’s leading deception
expert who studies facial expressions and involuntary body language to
discover not only if someone is lying, but why."
•Every year there are rumors that Fox will shift one of its "American Idol"
broadcasts to Thursdays, but that’s not happening. "Bones" and "Kitchen
Nightmares" will fill out Fox’s Thursday lineup.
•"Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles" moves to Friday along with
"Dollhouse."
•As Zap2it.com’s Daniel Fienberg pointed out, there’s no mention on Fox’s
schedule of two midseason shows the network had commissioned, "The
Cleveland Show" and "Sit Down, Shut Up." Maybe they’ll debut later in 2009.
http://www.whedon.info/Dollhouse-Tv-Series-Fox-Sets.html
With television schedules becoming year-round events, Fox has gotten an
early jump on the network competition by announcing their mid-season
lineup... and if you’re a fan of Joss Whedon, prepare to be disappointed.
Mr. Whedon’s latest series, the Elisha Dushku-starring spy-thriller
Dollhouse, has been stranded on Friday nights at 9 p.m. If that time slot
sounds familiar to you, that’s probably because it’s where shows generally
go to die (just ask CBS’ The Ex-List) and where Mr. Whedon saw his last Fox
venture, Firefly, meet an early grave.
Dollhouse has been a cursed endeavor for a while now. The pilot had to be
reshot and production was shutdown for two weeks to allow for some script
rewrites. According to the producer/director, via his blog: "Basically, the
Network and I had different ideas about what the tone of the show would be.
They bought something somewhat different than what I was selling them,
which is not that uncommon in this business." Uh-oh.
Adding insult to injury, Fox is placing the sputtering Terminator: The
Sarah Connor Chronicles on Fridays at 8 p.m. as a lackluster lead-in for
Dollhouse. All of this spells predictable doom, which is a shame since the
recently released trailer for Dollhouse makes the show look pretty good; a
deft mix of Alias, the Bourne movies and James Cameron’s Dark Angel series.
Needless to say, "Save Dollhouse" fan campaigns are already underway.
As for the rest of the Fox lineup, House fans take note; starting on
January 19th your favorite cantankerous doctor is moving to Mondays at 8
p.m. ahead of the seventh season of 24. Fringe will stay put on Tuesdays at
9 p.m. following American Idol, meaning the J.J. Abrams thriller is sure to
retain its strong Fall ratings. And the new Tim Roth series Lie to Me,
where Mr. Roth plays a "human lie detector" (seriously, who are the execs
who green light these shows?), will air on Wednesdays at 9 p.m. in another
plush post-American Idol time slot. Set your DVRs accordingly.
-- 
Jolan Tru
Filippo "Hytok" Simone
http://perestroika.iobloggo.com/

 fuori Whedon con una delle sue arrampicate...
Beh, in questo caso, il fatto che Dollhouse stia nel Friday Death Slot
giustifica la preoccupazione.

giustifica la preoccupazione.
Ma nella storia tutti i telefilm hanno fallito in quella fascia, o se n'è
salvato qualcuno?
Ricordo male, o pure Enterprise era finita lì?
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 salvato qualcuno?
CErto, da wiki:
Programs that buck the phenomenon
However, many popular shows, such as Sanford and Son (NBC, 1972-1977), The
Partridge Family (ABC, 1970-1974), Monk (USA, 2002-present), Miami Vice
(NBC, 1984-1990), Dallas (CBS, 1978-1991), Falcon Crest (CBS, 1981-1990),
The Incredible Hulk (CBS, 1978-1982), The Dukes of Hazzard (CBS,
1979-1985), Providence (NBC, 1999-2002), Ghost Whisperer (CBS,
2005-present), Nash Bridges (CBS, 1996-2001), Picket Fences (CBS,
1992-1996), The X-Files (FOX, 1993-2002), Reba (The WB/The CW, 2001-2007),
Sabrina, the Teenage Witch (ABC/The WB, 1996-2003) Grounded for Life
(FOX/The WB, 2001-2005), Law and Order: Special Victims Unit (NBC,
1999-present), and The Price Is Right $1,000,000 Spectacular (CBS,
2003-present) have been launched on Friday nights and become successful.
Often this will result in in the "promotion" of the series for Friday
sweeps; for instance, FOX later moved The X-Files to Sunday nights, and NBC
relocated Law and Order: Special Victims Unit to Tuesdays. Reba also moved
from Fridays to Sunday nights when it moved to The CW for what would turn
out to be its final season. It could be argued, however, that Grounded for
Life was a victim, as FOX cancelled it before it went on to achieve success
on The WB. The Price Is Right $1,000,000 Spectacular has moved around
between Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays, and it has had its greatest
ratings success in the Friday 8 p.m. time slot.
Similarly, Battlestar Galactica flourished at 10 p.m. on Fridays on the
Sci-Fi Channel from January 2005 to January 2007, in which time it became
one of Sci-Fi's highest-rated programs. For several years, Sci-Fi Channel
in fact placed its three highest rated shows on Friday night, airing
Galactica alongside Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis in a three-hour
Sci-Fi Friday block. This is no longer the case as of the 2006/07 season,
however; as of January 21, 2007, Galactica was moved to Sunday nights. It
was moved back to Fridays for its last season. Although the name of the
block and shows aired on it have changed, the block itself has been (for
the most part) very good for many of the Sci-Fi Channel's original shows.
UPN/The CW's WWE Friday Night SmackDown!, originally named SmackDown!, was
first broadcast on UPN on Thursdays to compete with WCW Thunder. UPN moved
the show to Friday nights in the United States on September 9, 2005,
because of low ratings in its original Thursday-night slot, and the show
has retained its Friday night timeslot since moving to The CW. Upon its
move to the "death slot," UPN/CW Friday nights have seen a substantial
increase in ratings over UPN's movies and most of the WB's sitcoms.
SmackDown! had also initially garnered even better ratings in the death
slot than the ratings on its former Thursday-night airings (after the
merging of WCW with WWE in 2001). Despite this, The CW chose to cancel
Smackdown which began airing on MyNetworkTV in fall of 2008. [19]

 salvato qualcuno?
In teoria, se i network avessero la capacità di analizzare i dati Nielsen
con competenza e professionalità, potrebbero valutare con imparzialità la
prestazione di una serie in relazione alla concorrenza.
In tal caso lo slot orario e il giorno della settimana non avrebbero molta
importanza.
Peccato che non lo sappiano / vogliano fare.
Un po' come quei ciarlatani che abbiamo in Italia che non capiscono
un'acca dei dati Auditel.
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salvato qualcuno?
se non ricordo male c'era anche battlestar galactica l'anno scorso, che me lo
scaricavo il sabato mattina
e quello, beh... mi sembra tutto fuorche' "morto"
ma so speranze vane :(
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Fabio Cavallin
a.k.a. Dottor Divago
«[...]And then the day come when cylons decided to kill their masters»

lo scaricavo il sabato mattina
Al momento, fra quelli che seguo io, ci sono Stargate Atlantis e Sanctuary,
il primo è alla sua ultima stagione ed il secondo è a basso costo e basse
aspettative (ma bello).
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 scaricavo il sabato mattina
Sci-Fi Channel... cosa c'entra? Mica è FOX.
-- 
Laz

Sci-Fi Channel... cosa c'entra? Mica è FOX.
maledetto te che rovini anche le minime speranze >_<
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