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Titolo: QUARTA edizione 4th - i Draghi sono fuori dal recinto

a quanto pare sono stati immessi in rete i pdf della tipografia della
4' edizione, notizia confermata anche dalla Wizards che sta cercando
di risalire al colpevole ma il danno è fatto
ecco l'articolo che spiega un pò il tutto
http://www.forbes.com/technology/2008/05/29/dungeons-dragons-game-tech-personal-cx_kk_0530dragon.html
Games We Play
Dungeon Contraband
Klaus Kneale 05.30.08, 6:00 AM ET
Wizards of the Coast is due to release a new version of its classic
game Dungeons & Dragons on June 6. There’s just one problem for the
subsidiary of Hasbro: In various unofficial forms, it's already out.
Die-hard fans have been impatiently waiting for the new version of the
paper-and-pencil fantasy game, which debuted in the 1970s and still
has a passionate following. It's big business: by one estimate, some
20 million people have played Dungeons & Dragons, and the books and
related materials have racked up $1 billion in sales.
Expect more. The fourth edition of Dungeons & Dragons, which will be
published in three books, features many of the same elements as
previous versions. Make a hero, fight big things (like dragons),
become a better hero, fight bigger things (like really big dragons).
But while Dungeons & Dragons has in the past featured an enormous--and
complex--set of rules, this version aims to be more streamlined and
appeal a bit more to new players.
To whet fans' appetites for the new version, Wizards of the Coast has
been gradually releasing tidbits of information over the past 10
months. Even though the game still requires nothing fancier than grid
paper and a pencil, Wizards has made ample use of the Internet to feed
the fans: There have been blog entries about game prototypes, excerpts
from the books, interviews with developers and sample adventures. Fans
have devoured every morsel. ENWorld.org, a Web site that has covered
everything about the release since it was announced August last year,
is logging 10 million visits a month.
And fans have been taking notes. Careful notes. Andrew White, a 31-
year-old in Calgary, Canada, compiled every rule and statistic
mentioned in those tidbits and published his own "4th Edition Pre-
Release Rules Compilation" reference. White's project turned into a
massive engineering feat itself, going through 12 revisions involving
40 people, and consuming at least 150 hours of White's life. He
released an 86-page final version on Thursday. In his spare time,
White is working on a doctoral degree in archeology.
Even worse for Hasbro, just before midnight Wednesday, scans of the
books appeared online, too. They weren't homebrewed rip-offs like the
Chinese editions of Harry Potter-- the muttering online is that they
were stolen copies of the electronic printing proofs, grabbed when the
manuscripts were sent to the printer in March. The clue: Some of the
contraband pages have prepress design symbols and a notation that
dates the files to 10 days before Wizards announced they had sent the
final product off to the printer.
Wizards spokesperson Tolena Thorburn confirmed that the leaked online
editions are real. "We are fairly confident that we’ve identified
where the leak occurred, and are moving forward on handling it
appropriately." The fairly specific nature of the material no doubt
left a clear trail to this particular rogue.
Despite the free copies circulating, fans are buzzing on the Web about
their plans to buy the books anyway. The purloined copies have even
won a few new customers for Wizards: some bloggers who feigned
disinterest in the fourth edition now say that the illegal copies have
convinced them to buy the new version.
And then there are the slipups. Buy.com shipped out a chunk of the
books pre-release. No more than 100 (less than 10% of Buy.com's total
preorders for the books) shipped before the error was caught. But the
lucky fans who got their copies early have been boasting about their
treasure.
Buy.com’s vice president of marketing, Jeff Wisot, says his team is
investigating whether there was a miscommunication over the publishing
date. "The parties involved have been dealt with and there are
consequences for breaking the street date," wrote Scott Rouse, senior
brand manager for Dungeons & Dragons, in an online forum.
Lucky for the mischief maker, Rouse can't summon an ogre.
--
Fabio

Questo paragrafo:
Despite the free copies circulating, fans are buzzing on the Web about
their plans to buy the books anyway. The purloined copies have even
won a few new customers for Wizards: some bloggers who feigned
disinterest in the fourth edition now say that the illegal copies have
convinced them to buy the new version.
...E la notizia che la 4E e' gia' in ristampa danno molto da pensare ai 
teorici della cospirazione :o)
Di sicuro dovrebbero dare molto da pensare a tutti quelli che "la pirateria, 
blah, blah..." 

 blah, blah..."
concordo :)
--
Fabio

blah, blah..." 
E' sempre un discorso molto complesso. Da entrambe le parti, secondo
me. 
Ci sono state volte in cui ho usufruito di un prodotto, mi e'
piaciuto, pero' poi non ho messo mano al portafogli. (lo stesso vale
per le cose prese a prestito ovviamente pero'...) Certo, adesso che
sono grande e lavoro e' piu' facile acquistare. E comunque e' in linea
con il mio carattere - supportare gli autori di cio' che mi piace mi
sembra cosa buona e giusta.
Parvati V
-- 
"Cosa e' celvello? Pai non ha cosa del genele" - Pai, 3x3 occhi
UnaMoleDiDadi (TreEmme Torino): 
http://umdd.altervista.org/
http://parvatiquinta.blogspot.com/

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lo sappiamo tutti che i pdf li ha mollati la woct. e comunque, anche
se non fosse, i pdf hanno convinto cosě tanta gente vheil leaker
dovrebbe venire premiato con un po di soldi :)
-- 
 Domon

dovrebbe venire premiato con un po di soldi :)
Ma chi te l'ha detto che è stata proprio la WOTC a "distribuire" i
pdf? :-P
Comunque non vedo l'ora di mettere le mani sul cartaceo. Ho una voglia
pazesca di mettermi all'opera con questa nuova edizione, e a quanto
pare sono molti altri i giocatori entusiasti di lanciarsi in questa
4ed. 
Davvero una ventata d'aria fresca e frizzante, che stimola la voglia e
la creatività di fare.
Bel colpo WOTC!

pdf? :-P
... :D
-- 
 Domon

 la creatività di fare.
Non farti ingannare: e' per via della colla che hanno usato per la 
rilegatura ^^ 

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un'ALTRA cosa copiata da exalted?
-- 
 Domon

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il mio dubbio è
come hanno fatto a metterla nei pdf?
--
Fabio

come hanno fatto a metterla nei pdf?
sono 10 anni che si preparano all'evento. tutti i mouse comprati al
mondo negli ultimi 10 anni contengono una piccola sacca di
metamfetamine, eroina, popper e lsd che vengono rilasciate
contemporaneamente quando apri un pdf di dnd4.
fanno le cose in grande, 'sti quà.
-- 
 Domon

 il mio dubbio è
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Non credo che ce l'abbiano messa. Buona parte dei post su rec.games.frp.dnd 
fatti da persone che "mysteriosamente" paiono gia' in grado di commenare la 
4E non danno affatto l'impressione di gente che ha fiutato "la colla 
dell'allegria". 

dell'allegria". 
a questo punto direi che non servono altre conferme sulla qualità
dell'opera...
-- 
 Domon

 ha scritto nel messaggio 
news:1o1e44lst45e0b3uj...@4ax.com...
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Tra questo e l'esultanza dei fondamentalisti, direi di no.