Newsgroup: it.politica
Titolo: Jewish pressure was one of the main factors behind the Allied  decision to bomb and massacre German cities.

WW2's Greatest Historian
Documents and target maps found at bomb sites, Irving wrote, proved
that British aircrews were instructed to aim only at residential
areas, convincing Hitler that this was mainly the Jewish retaliation.
Again, the fact that Irving refrained from any comment, left the
impression that Hitler's belief might have been realistic. It should
be noted that years before the publication of Hitler's War, Irving had
already raised the possibility that Jewish pressure had been one of
the main factors behind the Allied decision to bomb and devastate
German cities.
http://www.judicial-inc.biz/Dresden.htm

On Feb 13, 5:19 pm, Love Europe Hate the EU

Here on  the internet, the Jews & the Holocaust are often ridiculed,
and I occasionally reply a la:
Imho, the numerous revisers-deniers etal implicitly make the secular
(Theodore Herzl's) case for the existence of modern Israel.
Below are informative articles re alleged Jewish political pressure re
Dresden
My angry,  indirect response since I have not previously read of the
specific dynamic of the Dresden fire-bombing:
The Jews in the 1940s couldn't get FDR-Churchill to just bomb the
goshdamned railway(s) to death camp(s)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Irving
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_bombing_debate
http://www.h-net.org/~antis/papers/stauber/stauber.006.html
Kurt Vonnegunt's famous (anti-war?)  novel SLAUGHTERHOUSE FIVE about
the fire-bombing of Dresden: I never read, and am not planning to,
though years ago can recall enjoying an audio cassette of an excerpt
from the absurdist- hilarious BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS
http://www.h-net.org/~antis/papers/stauber/stauber.006.html

 areas
SNIP:
It is well known that Irving was a Hitlerphile and a known liar. He
lied
in his published writings. Quoting him proves absolutely nothing other
than demonstrating the quoter is disingenuous.
Walt BJ

 the fire-bombing of Dresden: I never read, and am not planning to . . .
Nor I. For which reason, one of my mottos has always been, "Fuck
Vonnecunt."
--
JM 
http://bobbisoxsnatchers.blogspot.com
http://whosenose.blogspot.com
http://doo-dads.blogspot.com
http://jesusexegesis.blogspot.com
http://mackiemesser.zoomshare.com


I'm just sorry they didn't do more of it. Killing about 25 to 50
million Germans motherfuckers would have been about right.

 wrote in 
news:07a01a2f-7033-439b...@v19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com
:

So now are they even?  Can the Jews STFU about the Holocaust?  Or is there 
still way too much money to be made off it?


That there was even so much as ONE German left to draw the breath of
life after V.E. Day was DISPROPORTIONATE to all the loss exacted upon
the whole world by Germany. And what IS the "proportion" that makes
mathematical sense?  That is, what is rational and relevant to a
retaliation against a design of INTENT that had been not merely the
enslavement of ALL the world, but annihilation of ALL the Gypsy and
Gay and Jewish people in it?
Oh, lemme tellya . . .
ALL the Germans should now be dead?
Had Six Million Germans been lined up in ranks out on the flat of some
broad plain (for surely there could hardly be found an urban enclosure
large enough to contain them) to be mowed down by machine guns, row
after row, in rank upon rank, ten thousand broad--why then! Even such
a retaliation as that would not have been proportionate--and hence, no
true "retaliation" let alone "proportion" at all.
The whole world saw in 1948, 1967, and 1974 what the INTENT of the
Arab world had been, for it was being broadcast widely over the
radio from Cairo to Damascus, and the air of all the Levant was
stinking from the acrid stench of Arab/Muslim breath expended on the
word "extermination."
That there remains upon this earth to this day, even so much as one
live and stinking Arab or Muslim, from Cairo to Damascus still
snarling with that same foul breath, still funding and cheering on the
extermination agenda of Hezbollah and al Qaida and Hamas? This is a
fact of disproportionality that attests to but one thing only: the
high standard of civilized morality among the Israeli people.


 WW2's Greatest Historian
Yea?
Who pressured the Germans to "bomb and massacre" Spanish cities?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Guernica
And Polish cities...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Warsaw_in_World_War_II
And Dutch cities...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Rotterdam
And British cities...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blitz
Your real complaint is that the British got better at it than the
Germans were.


<<The whole world saw in 1948, 1967, and 1974 what the INTENT of the
Arab world had been, for it was being broadcast widely over the
radio from Cairo to Damascus, and the air of all the Levant was
stinking from the acrid stench of Arab/Muslim breath expended on the
word "extermination." >>
Utter crap. You start *importing Europeans* to a developing colonial
country like Palestine and EXACTLY the same thing would happen. Thus
huge rebellions against Italian occpation of Lybia. The EXPULSION of
French colonizers from Algeria, etc etc. European Jews were seen as
*no different* since it WAS NOT THEIR LAND. Thus a war. Oh...you
conveniently forgot the Israeli-British-French war ON Egypt in 1956.
The Zionist movement from the get go was at the beck and call of
British imperialism. Read Hertzl on this, he's very clear of his
*appeal* to whatever colonial, imperialist power to give one of
"their" colonies to the "Jews".
David