Newsgroup: it.politica
Titolo: Longion, confermi?

http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/young-earth-creationist-ben-carson-americas-secretary-education/
 
 
E probabilmente esulti. La scienza stuprata in nome della fede...
 
 
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GiOvAnNi

 E probabilmente esulti. La scienza stuprata in nome della fede...
 
 
"massivan"
 
La scienza che scopre e poi "ricopre" e' a sua volta
una fede. 
 
 

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Ben Carson e' un noto neurochirurgo, magari una fonte piu' attendible
non guasterebbe.
 
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I think, therefore I question.

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la subordinazione della scienza alla politica è un beffardo ricorso storico :-) : 
 
.... L'approvazione delle teorie lysenkiane e l'aspra critica nei confronti di Ždanov si manifestarono ben presto un'abile mossa politica che si tradusse in una specifica subordinazione della scienza alla politica ....
 
 
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trofim_Denisovi%C4%8D_Lysenko
 

 non guasterebbe.
 
Wikipedia, per adesso.
 
La pagina e' questa 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Carson
 
Da cui copincollo:
 
Climate Change
 
Carson rejects the scientific consensus that human activity causes climate change; in November 2014, he said: "there's always going to be either cooling or warming going on", and he found the debate on climate change "irrelevant" and a distraction from protecting the environment.[168]
 
In 2015, Carson expressed his disbelief about the scientific consensus on climate change, at a Commonwealth Club forum in San Francisco.[169] After this statement, Governor Jerry Brown of California sent Carson a flash drive containing the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's Synthesis Report, which details the scientific evidence of human impact on climate change.[169][170] Carson's response to the San Francisco Chronicle was: "There is no overwhelming science that the things that are going on are man-caused and not naturally caused."[169][170]
 
(Questa parte sicuramente ti trova in perfetto accordo con lui)
 
Evolution
 
Carson's views on evolution and creationism have been controversial.[194] In a 2006 debate, Carson stated: "I don't believe in evolution... I simply don't have enough faith to believe that something as complex as our ability to rationalize, think, and plan, and have a moral sense of what's right and wrong, just appeared."[195]
 
In a 2011 speech to Seventh-day Adventists, entitled "Celebration of Creation", Carson said Darwin's theory of evolution "was encouraged by the adversary and it has become what is scientifically, politically correct"; with 'the adversary' being interpreted as a reference to Satan.[196] Carson also labeled the theory of the Big Bang as "ridiculous", saying, "Here you have all these highfalutin scientists and they’re saying it was this gigantic explosion and everything came into perfect order ... I mean, you want to talk about fairy tales, that is amazing." Carson defended his comments in 2015, saying in regard to the scientific concepts, "I'm not going to denigrate you because of your faith and you shouldn't denigrate me for mine."[197][198]
 
In 2014, Carson rejected the validity of carbon dating, as it "really doesn't mean anything to a God who has the ability to create anything at any point in time". Carson further argued against evolution, stating his disbelief in the possibility of the "complexity of the human brain" arising "from a slime pit full of promiscuous biochemicals".[199]
 
In October 2015, Carson stated that he does accept the idea of natural selection, but there is only evidence for microevolution (changes in allele frequencies that occur over time within a species), which he believes was the result of "a wise creator who gave his creatures the ability to adapt to their environment so that he wouldn't have to start over every 50 years", whereas "there's never been one species that's turned into another species, that can be proved."[200]
 
(qua non sto neanche a sottolineare come siete allineati. Preciso a te :-))
 
History of ancient Egypt
 
In a 1998 commencement speech at Andrews University, Carson publicly expressed the view that the Pyramids of Giza were not tombs, but grain silos built by Joseph, the Biblical son of Jacob, in preparation for the famine depicted in the Book of Genesis. He added that "various scientists" say ancient aliens could have designed the structures, but to Carson, "it doesn't require an alien being when God is with you".[227] Popular in medieval Europe, the belief that Joseph had the pyramids built as granaries was perpetuated by, among others, Gregory of Tours in the sixth century,[228] an Irish monk in the ninth century named Bernard,[229] a mosaic in St. Mark's Basilica dating from the twelfth,[230] and the travelogue attributed to John Mandeville in the fourteenth.[231]
 
In 2015, Carson reiterated his views on the Egyptian pyramids. Archaeologists reject the notion that the pyramids were used to store grain, noting that the pyramids were not hollow, ancient Egyptian granaries have been well-studied, there is evidence of burials inside the pyramids, and the ancient Egyptians left funerary instructions inside them.[232][233][234] Additionally, the Bible states that Joseph's grain was kept in cities.[119]
 
(questa sopra e' buffa, la definirei "una cagata sesquipedale". Ma di certo troverai il modo di dargli ragione)
 
 
E' una piccola selezione dei suoi punti di vista, ve ne sono altri piu' politici che a me paiono abbastanza naif, come i discorsi sulla tassazione (li' pare Berlusconi pompato), la politica estera e l'uso delle armi.
 
 
Dal mio punto di vista e' -politicamente- un cattotalebano iperconservatore. Sara' sicuramente stato un bravissimo neurochirurgo, ma fosse il MIO ministro dell'educazione mi preoccuperei.
 
 
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GiOvAnNi

Dal mio punto di vista e' -politicamente- un cattotalebano iperconservatore. Sara' sicuramente stato un bravissimo neurochirurgo, ma fosse il MIO ministro dell'educazione mi preoccuperei.
 
Cosa sara' nell'amminstrazione di Trump nessuno lo sa, e non ti
preoccupare, tanto tu non conti una fava. 
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 E probabilmente esulti. La scienza stuprata in nome della fede...
 
Molto bene. La scomparsa degli USA come massima potenza mondiale avverrà molto più rapidamente di quanto sperato. Una disgrazia per i cittadini USA, ma una grande notizia per il resto dell'umanità