Newsgroup: it.hobby.home-cinema
Titolo: Qualità reg1/reg2

Visto che spesso (io per primo) ci lamentiamo per come siamo trattati qui in
Italia nel nostro settore (DVD-HT etc.) leggetevi questa recensione della
copia Italiana di The ROCK apparsa sul sito ufficiale "
US.IMDB.COM
". nella
quale sono incappato per caso cercando informazioni sulla SE CRITERION che
sta per uscire in U.S. Detto per inciso questo č uno dei peggiori DVD R1 che
io possiedo.
Ovvio che sia piů che applicabile il detto "L'eccezione che conferma la
regola" perchč per esempio per altri titoli si puň affermare esattamente il
contrario (ad es. la serie Arma Letale, che in reg1, nonostante l'NTSC, č
pressochč perfetta e molto migliore della reg2)
Buona lettura
Ciao Claudio
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This PAL version of Rock, The (1996) is of very good quality and beats the
NTSC version hands down. It's not cut.
The film master is clean and image steadiness is good. Contrast rendition is
first rate. Color reproduction is very good too, but there is a chroma delay
that affects it negatively (evaluated under video artifacts though, not
color reproduction!) in a couple of scenes (mainly the scenes in the hotel
and the final scene on the rock). The delay creates oddly coloured outlines
around contours and some bleeding.
Sharpness is outstanding. This is, unlike the NTSC version, a genuinely 16:9
enhanced DVD from Disney! Long before Shakespeare in Love (1998). Yes!! Real
16:9 and not the fake 16:9 versions Disney is offering on most of its PAL
releases (including Armageddon (1998)) which offer nothing but NTSC
letterbox resolution upsampled to 16:9 PAL dimensions, adding no sharpness
in the process at all. Some shots offer exquisite image detail. Sharpness
could be even better if there were no chroma delay and no noise processing
effects. Yes, digital noise processing has been applied and some artifacts
are visible. Check out chapter 3, for example. From 1:18 to 1:19 you see the
needle of a syringe in fast motion. The noise processing creates 3 needles
where there should be one. Rather odd, but thanks to the hectic motion
difficult to see and not distracting. The processing has been done with
sufficient care to avoid ugly incidents. Fine image detail is often somewhat
blurred, but remains sharp enough to impress. Very easy to spot, though, are
two instances of digital scratch removal out of control and attacking
genuine image detail in the form of high contrast window bars. These are
made to flicker. Ugly and completely unnecessary. A case where quality
control should have stepped in, but it did not. You can find these glitches
in chapter 4 at 3:17-3:18 and 4:06-4:11. Aliasing and overenhanced edges are
no problem (the chroma delay creates a similar effect like overenhanced
edges though). The noise and grain level is low. Finally the compression
uses a high average bit rate of 7.5 MBit/s and is of high quality. I have
seen no glitches.
The disc is a flipper with more bits available than a single side dual layer
disc has. This helps compression, but is not to everybody's taste since the
disc must be flipped by hand in the middle of an action scene. Does not
bother me but your mileage may vary.
If you like this movie and have a PAL compatible player for region 2, stick
to this Italian version, which is also uncut (unlike the PAL version from
Germany and UK) and not the NTSC version which has inferior image quality
(less sharp, compression artefacts, more aliasing).
A rare case indeed, but this is an exmaple where PAL beats NTSC.

This PAL version of Rock, The (1996) is of very good quality and beats the
E' ovviamente una recensione scritta da un italiano...
Ciao!!
Marco.

A dire il vero la mia versione di "The Rock" (italiana) è tagliata... :(
mancano alcuni fotogrammi quando...
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...quando Connery e Cage entrano nell'obitorio, si vede Connery estrarre il
coltello, si sente anche il rumore del coltello che colpisce qualcosa, ma il
video non mostra cosa (o chi :)): praticamente mancano aluni fotogrammi...
Ricordo che nella versione VHS prestatami da un amico la scena era presente,
e si vedeva il coltello conficcarsi nella testa di un marine :)
Bah, misteri della censura...
Ciao!

 
Infatti, su IMDB si dice "tagliata, ma non quanto quella R1".
Btw, quella Criterion in uscita sara' censurata o integrale? io sarei 
tentato, ma quei 30 dollari mi bloccano un po'...