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Titolo: E quel vecchio DC3???

......L'abbiamo scampata per un soffio!!!!
Eh si, quel DC3 scoppiato in volo in Venezuela l'abbiamo preso due volte nell'andata
e ritorno da Caracas all'arcipelago di Los Roques!! (beh, se proprio non era lo
stesso, comunque sempre un vecchio DC3 della seconda guerra era!)
Pensate un po' che una bella signora Venezuelana, anche lei diretta a Los Roques col
nostro stesso volo, si domandava, rivolgendoci la parola, come mai ci (noi italiani)
fidiamo salire su quei voli con vecchi aerei ad elica. Ho risposto che poco tempo fa
un Concorde, meraviglia della tecnica, si e' schiantato al suolo..... Mah, ora non so
piu' cosa pensare..., ho fatto male a risponderle cosi'???
Saluti e pensieri....
D. & G.
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Effettivamente aveva 50 anni...prima o poi....
Gli aerei con piu' di 40 ani di servizio dovrebbero andare
in pensione in un museo, scuola o film...
Per chi non conoscesse il modello in questione:
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~ito-nori/dc3.html
Steve
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 e ritorno da Caracas all'arcipelago di Los Roques!! (beh, se proprio non era lo
Azz... ma erano quei vecchi quadrimotore che c'erano sempre a Los
Roques? Non me ne intendo, ma non mi sembravano dei DC-3!
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 Roques? Non me ne intendo, ma non mi sembravano dei DC-3!
I DC3 infatti non sono quadrimotori...
J.

> I DC3 infatti non sono quadrimotori...
evidentemente non ha letto il mio post !
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le foto del disastro:
http://notizie.virgilio.it/notizie/gallery/zoom/143.html
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 ......L'abbiamo scampata per un soffio!!!!
Già, ho proprio pensato a voi stamattina. Prima o poi capita a tutti di
volare con una vecchia baracca. I penso sempre: con tutta la gente che
viaggia, vuoi che capiti proprio a me !! Scema vero !! Ma mi rifiuto di
andare in giro con la fifa che mi fa compagnia.
Rosy

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 I DC3 infatti non sono quadrimotori...
OK. Sono andato a vedere le foto dei DC-3. Non mi pare ce ne fossero a
Los Roques. Mi pare che gli unici aerei di quella stazza fossero i
quadrimotore di cui parlavo prima, anche se non ne sono sicuro.
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 americano
E' vero per la precisione il C-47 "Gooney Bird"
Performance:   Max velocità di criciera: 207 mph 
               Altitudine: 23.200 Piedi 
               Carburante x 2,125 miglia 
               costo: 139.000 dollari  
 
Dal diffusissimo Dc-3 sono derivati con piccole varianti:
DST:     
              Original model powered by Wright Cyclone radials that
carried 14 night or 28 day passengers 
 DST-A: 
              Same as DST but powered with Pratt & Whitney Twin Wasp
radials 
 DC-3: 
              Day transport that carried between 21 and 28 passengers
powered by Cyclone radials 
 DC-3A: 
              Similar to DC-3 but powered with Twin Wasp radials 
 DC-3B: 
              Convertible model with seat/berths in the forward cabin
and seats in the aft cabin for 28 day passengers and few night
              passengers 
 C-41A:
              The fist military model, a DC-3 with military
instrumentation, swivelling seats, and R-1830-21 Twin Wasp radial
engines 
 C-47: 
              First military production model with 6in greater span,
revised fuel tanks, R-1830-92 radials, small astrodome, and payload
              of 6,000lb or 28 paratroops or 14 casualties and three
attendants 
 C-47A: 
              C-47 with 24 volt instead of 12 volt electrical system 
 RC-47A: 
              Postwar modification for limited reconnaissance and
flare-dropping in support of tactical combat aircraft in Korea 
 SC-47A: 
              Postwar search and rescue variant later redesignated
HC-47A 
 VC-47A: 
              Postwar modification for staff transport with conventional
seating 
 C-47B: 
              Developed for operations 'over the hump' between India and
China. This version had better heating and R-1830-90C
              radials with two-stage blowers. Later converted to C-47D 
 TC-47B: 
              Navigation trainer 
 VC-47B: 
              C-47B conversion to staff transport 
 XC-47C: 
              Experimental model fitted with floats, only one built 
 C-47D: 
              C-47B after the removal of the high blower 
 AC-47D: 
              Designation of 26 Airways Check version for Military Air
Transport Service later redesignated EC-47D 
 RC-47D: 
              Reconnaissance version 
 SC-47D: 
              Search and rescue variant, later redesignated HC-47D 
 TC-47D: 
              Trainer modification 
 C-47E: 
              Modified for the USAF by Pan American with 962-kW Pratt &
Whitney R-2000-R radials for use as Airways Check aircraft 
 YC-47F: 
              Initially designated YC-129, a single Super DC-3 evaluated
by the USAF 
 C-47M: 
              C-47H and C-47J aircraft redesignated after ebing fitted
with special electronic equipment for use in the Vietnam War 
 EC-47N: 
              C-47A fitted for electronic reconnaissance in Vietnam 
 EC-47P: 
              C-47D fitted for electronic reconnaissance in Vietnam 
 EC-47Q: 
              Used for electronic reconnaissance in Vietnam fitted with
R-2000-4 engines 
 C-48: 
              A DC-3A taken over from United Air Lines during
construction 
 C-48A: 
              Three DC-3As taken over 
 C-48B: 
              16 impressed aircraft 
 C-48C: 
              Seven DC-3As taken over from Pan American during
construction, nine impressed aircraft 
 C-49: 
              Six DC-3s taken over from TWA 
 C-49A: 
              One DC-3 taken over from Delta 
 C-49B: 
              Three DC-3s taken over from Eastern Air Lines 
 C-49C: 
              Two DC-3s taken over from Delta 
 C-49D: 
              Six DC-3s taken over from Eastern Air Lines, five
impressed aircraft 
 C-49E: 
              22 impressed aircraft 
 C-49F: 
              Nine impressed aircraft 
 C-49G: 
              Eight impressed aircraft 
 C-49H: 
              19 impressed aircraft 
 C-49J: 
              34 DC-3s taken over 
 C-49K: 
              23 DC-3s taken over 
 C-50: 
              Four DC-3s taken over from American 
 C-50A: 
              Two DC-3s taken over from American 
 C-50B: 
              Three DC-3s taken over from Braniff 
 C-50C: 
              One DC-3 taken over from Penn Central 
 C-50D: 
              Four DC-3s taken over from Penn Central 
 C-51: 
              One DC-3 taken over from Canadian Colonial 
 C-52: 
              One DC-3A taken over from United 
 C-52A: 
              One DC-3A taken over from Western 
 C-52B: 
              Two DC-3As taken over from United 
 C-52C: 
              One DC-3A taken over from Eastern Air Lines 
 C-52D: 
              One impressed aircraft 
 C-53 Skytrooper: 
              A dedicated troop transport with R-1830-92 Radials that
had 28 seats, a glider tow, and no freight door 
 XC-53A: 
              C-53 modified for use in the Arctic with hot air de-icers
instead of pneumatic boots 
 C-53B: 
              Eight C-53s modified for use in the Arctic with winterised
equipment and extra fuel capacity 
 C-53C: 
              17 airline-ordered impressed aircraft 
 C-53D: 
              C-53 with side seats instead of seats in rows 
 C-68: 
              Two impressed DC-3As 
 C-84: 
              Four impressed aircraft 
 C-117A: 
              Similar to C-47B, a staff transport with 21 seats 
 C-117B: 
              11 C-117As with their high blowers removed for the
R-1830-90C radials 
 C-117C: 
              Designation of VC-47 models upgraded to C-117B 
 C-117D: 
              Redesignation of R4D-8 
 XCG-17: 
              Experamental troop carrying glider, no production 
 R4D-1: 
              Freight model for US Navy 
 R4D-2: 
              Two DC-3s taken over from Eastern Air Lines for staff
transport by the US Navy later redesginated R4D-2F and R4D-2Z 
 R4D-3: 
              20 C-43 personal transports from USAF 
 R4D-4: 
              10 DC-3s taken over from Pan American by the US Navy and
used as personell transports, later converted to R4D-4Q and
              modified for electronic countermeasures 
 R4D-5: 
              C-47As recieved from USAF and later redesignated C-47H 
 R4D-5E: 
              R4-D aircraft modified for special electronic operations 
 R4D-5L: 
              R4D-5 aircraft modified for operations in the Arctic and
Antarctic later redesignated LC-47H 
 R4D-5Q: 
              R4D-5 aircraft modified for radar countermeasures later
redesignated EC-47H 
 R4D-5R: 
              R4D-5 aircraft modified for personnel transports later
redesignated TC-47H 
 R4D-5S: 
              R4D-5 aircraft modified for air-sea warfare training later
redesignated SC-47H 
 R4D-5T: 
              R4D-5 modified for navigation training 
 R4D-5Z: 
              R4D-5 aircraft modified for staff transports later
redesignated VC-47H 
 R4D-6: 
              150 C-47B aircraft recieved by the US Navy from the USAF.
Later redesignated C-47J. Other versions include: R4D-6E,
              R4D-6L later LC-47J, R4D-6Q later EC-47J, R4D-6R later
TC-47J, R4D-6s later SC-47J, R4D-6T and R4D-6z later VC-47J 
 R4D-7: 
              47 TC-47B aircraft recieved by the US Navy from the USAAD
later redesignated TC-47K 
 Dakota Mk I: 
              RAF equivalent of the C-47 
 Dakota Mk II: 
              RAF equivalent of the C-53 
 Dakota Mk III: 
              RAF Equivalent of the C-47A
 Dakota Mk IV: 
              RAF equivalent of the C-47B 
 Lisunov Li-2: 
           Russian licence-built version. 
                 PS-84: 
                        First version with M-62 radials 
                 Li-2G: 
                        Shvestov ASh-62 radials, armed with turreted
armament, freighter version 
                 Li-2P: 
                        Same as Li-2G but Personnel transport 
                 Li-2PG 
                        Same as Li-2G but convertible model 
                 Li-2V: 
                        Same as Li-2G but high altitude model 
 Showa L2D: 
          A Japanese company, Mitsui, acquired a license to produce the
DC-3 in Japan and Manchuria 
                 L2D2: 
                         Personnel transports with Kinsei 43 radials 
                 L2D3: 
                         Personnel transports with Kinsei 51 radials 
                 L2D3a: 
                         Personnel transports with Kinsei 53 radials 
                 L2D3-1: 
                         Freighters with Kinsei 51 radials 
                 L2D3-1a: 
                         Freighters with Kinsei 53 radials 
                 L2D4: 
                         Personnel transports with Kinsei 51 radials and
a 13.2mm machine gun in the dorsal turret 
                 L2D4-1: 
                         Freighter version of L2D4 
                 L2D5: 
                         Personnel transport based on the L3D4 but built
out of wood and steel and powered by Kinsei 62 radials 
 Super DC-3
 (DC-35): 
                 Improved post-war version originally DC-3S 
 R4D-8X: 
                 Protoype YC-129/YC-47F evaluated for US Navy use 
 R4D-8: 
                 100 US Navy aircraft modified to Super DC-3 standard.
All surviving variants of R4D-8 were designated in the C-117D
                 series 
 R4D-8T: 
                 Modified R4D-8 as a trainer later redesignated TC-117D 
 R4D-8Z: 
                 Modified R4D-8 as staff transport later redesignated
VC-117D 
 R4D-8L: 
                 R4D-8 modified for winterised transports later
redesignated LC-117D 
Ciao, Steve
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A Los Roques fanno la spola i DC3 dell' *Aroejecutive* e della *Rutaca*
dall'aeroporto internazionale di Caracas (prtenze nazionali).
Prossimamente inseriro' la foto nel ns. sito.
Salumi
D. e G.
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 come lo ero io..
...perche' lo eri ? :-)
Ciao, steve
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