Newsgroup: it.hobby.viaggi
Titolo: [semi OT] Darker side of sex tourism [Crossposto da rec.travel.asia]

"So I grabbed her by the throat and put her to the wall. I put the hotel key
& holder in her mouth and threatened her. She shut up after that. Even
cried, TILL she got outside and started to threaten me."
The text below my message is a repost from a board dedicated to hard-core
sex tourism in Cambodia. While I have no problems with prostitution, and I
think it should be up to the individual to decide how she or he earns a
living, this is simply not the case for the vast majority of women and
children in the sex industry in Cambodia. As we all have heard time and
again, most of the girls in this industry are trapped in a vicious cycle of
debt bondage.
During this past rainy season, many of the posters on the 
penhball.com
 site
were speculating about all of the fresh young girls they would soon have
access to since the poverty level was about to skyrocket in Vietnam. Most of
the Vietnamese, and a great many of the Khmer girls 'working' in the
industry in Cambodia are there as a result of debt and poverty in their
families. The brothel procurers, pedophiles, and loan sharks know that a
disaster such as a flood or drought will bring lots of cheap new talent
their way.
Many of the posters in the 
penhball.com
 site are of a mind that they are
doing these girls a favor, since they assume the girls would be treated
worse by the locals, and they claim the girls actually PREFER living a life
of slavery and intimidation over working in a rice paddy. They (the sex
tourists) even coined a poetic phrase for this. They call it "escaping from
the mud."
###########################Original Posting Copied from xxxxxxx.xxx
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You can see this piece of shit's full message at:
http://www.penhball.com/cgi-bin/webbbs_config.pl
under the heading: "Scam is REAL!"
The original post by crazyfingers - nothing too notable:
"Hi boys....been in PP for four days now ....third time .....and i can tell
you that three times the girls have tried to pull that shit where i want to
go home after an hour or so!!....two fom Martini's and one from
Sharkey's!....pissed me off and refused to pay the full 20 ....som gave 12
to 15 .....told them to #### off afterwards.....must be a new thing they are
trying to pull!!.....just to let you know!.....next time ...i might not give
anything!....what do ya think!?...."
Then this reply by Casper:
"Sorry to hear your experience, pisses me off, the girls only hurt
themselves
don't they? I guess we tell them about that experience and tell them it
won't be tolerated. No money for moto, no tip, and $5 max. I'd like to say
to kick
their ass too but I don't think any people on this board would condone that.
I guess I've been lucky it's usually hard to get the girl to leave. Do you
think it's a viet or khmer trend or both?"
Yes, he's talking about beating down a prostitute over a lousy 20 bucks. I
found that pretty F***ing disgusting and then I saw Mr. Bob's next reply
entitled, "Jack them up":
"Yea, they are learning bad habits from their Thai sisters. I too had the
same problem PLUS some of the Kamer girls at Martinis had large sores on
their inner lips. Always look first. They are dirty, much dirtier than the
Viet girls. Back to the Scam girls: I had one that wanted to bail so I would
only give her $5. She got out in the hotel hallway and started to make some
noise. It was 2am. So I grabbed her by the throat and put her to the wall. I
put the hotel key & holder in her mouth and threatened her. She shut up
after that. Even cried, TILL she got outside and started to threaten me.
They know that you have money and can buy your way out of anything but you
have to have that look in your eyes to scare them ourwise they will pull
their crap and with most of the tourists they will win. You have to remember
that in these contries they were brought up with violence. It works with
them. If they know you are afaid of any problems they will take avantage of
you. And once they learn how easy it is with 90% of they tourists you can
bet they will try it every time. All they can think about is getting back to
the bar to get another tourist and their money. I always tell they $5 ST or
$15 LT, up to them to make the choice. But you have to tell them first.
These are not nice girls."
This guy actually does "jack" cheap asian prostitutes. In fact, he
recommends it because it "works with them." What an a**h*le!
###########################End of copied message from xxxxxxx.xxx ##########
I posted a message to the 
penhball.com
 site to let this Mr. Bob guy know
that he was giving barang travellers to Cambodia bad rep with his advocating
violence towards little girls. This message was promptly deleted. I guess
it's Okay to talk about beating-up children over an inadequate sex
perfomance, but it's not okay to post a dissenting view. Therefore, as a
fellow traveller and human person, I feel the need to express this opinion
and will do so even if it means going to other travel sites and usenet
groups to do so.

il sito si chiama "it.hobby.viaggi" e "it" sta per italia(no) quindi
adattati. grazie.
Marco


tutto qui quello che hai da dire ?
QQG

 Marco
Se ti dà tanto fastidio la prossima volta gira la testa.
Ignorante.
F.

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 Bye Fede.
Scusa... cosa vuol dire bye ???
;-)))
ciao
nb

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Bha non so ... suonava bene!
(commento arguto il tuo!)

> Scusa... cosa vuol dire bye ???
Ciao nat
sei in forma smagliante :-)
Ben trovato
beppe°

 beppe°
Bentornato a te !!
Com'è andata ??????
ciao!
nb

 Com'è andata ??????
Ero il secondo straniero che visitava Imperatriz negli ultimi 30 anni ed il
primo era un predicatore irlandese.
Come premessa non c' è male, no?
Ciò che c' è scritto sul sito di Paolo Baffi non rende esattamente l' idea
della cultura di quei posti.
La realtà, se possibile, è ancora più dura.
Difficile raccontare un luogo che ricorda il farwest descritto nei film
della nostra gioventù, comnpresi pistoleros e assaltatori.
Unico problema è che là si spara veramente. Fortuna che ero "protetto" da un
influente professore universitario che sembrava un boss mafioso di fine 800.
Giusto il tempo di lavare le magliette e il 25 si riparte ;-DDDD
ciao
beppe°