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Titolo: Clooney, ti scrivo... [ROT-13]

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 Non confondiamo la realtà con la finzione per cortesia
Non sai cosa sia la retorica, vero? Stavo parlando di Clooney e del
personaggio che lo ha reso famoso. Tutto qui. Non mi interessano i rapporti
tra Clooney ed Edwards. Dovevo troncare le frasi dicendo, per i meno dotati,
"Guardate che sto facendo retorica tra finzione e realtà"? Io ho lavorato in
vari uffici e, più o meno, sono rimasto affezionato a ciascuno di essi. Il
set di un telefilm è un particolare "ufficio" dove capita che si reciti. Io
stavo semplicemente parlando di un possibile tributo di un attore ormai
famoso a un telefilm che ha favorito il suo successo. Clooney tornò per
"giustificare" la cancellazione del personaggio "Carol", mi è sembrato
"strano" non tornare per partecipare alla cancellazione del personaggio
"Mark". Io stavo parlando delle stelle del cielo, tu mi hai indicato che,
forse, con il naso all'insù stavo rischiando di calpestare una pozzanghera.
Ognuno ha i suoi interessi primari. Tu guardi il fango, io le stelle. Non
siamo tutti uguali. Buonanotte.
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nfpbygb :)
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 Buonanotte.
bellissima questa citazione, se mi permetti te la rubo e la faccio mia. mi
ricorda quella che fa:
quando il saggio indica la luna...lo sciocco guarda il dito.....
ciao e se mi permetti...hai ragione la penso come te. pier
red...@libero.it

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pur ub tvn' qrggb.
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cre qhr chagngr?
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>vaqvfpermvbav fhy evgbeab qry qvib Trbetr
sto cercando articoli sulla vicenda perchè ormai mi sono incuriosita, cmq
intanto ho trovato questi, che non c'entrano ma aiutano a capire quello che
dicevo nei post precedenti.
Questi articoli sono vecchie e riguardano l'apparizione di Clooney nell'ultima
puntata di carol hathaway. Credo che faccia capire abbastanza bene la visione
dei produttori e del cast su queste apparizione e quanto george cercasse si
essere disponibile.
Clooney Miffed Over
 ER Leak
May 15, 2000
On Thursday night's ER, George Clooney pulled off one of the most high-profile
TV cameos in recent history, and although he was pleased with the cameo itself,
the former TV doc is fuming that NBC couldn't keep his return a secret. 
While in France promoting his new film, O Brother, Where Art Thou?, at the
Cannes Film Festival, Clooney slammed NBC-TV's handling of his "surprise" ER
appearance. Clooney was pleased with the ER finale that reunited him with TV
love Julianna Margulies, but not with the fact that his guest shot was no longer
the complete surprise he'd planned it to be. 
The actor said his two-line return to the role of Dr. Doug Ross was kept so
hush-hush, that even his own agent didn't know. "We were flying [to Cannes]
Thursday … and my agent was next to me, talking, and he was saying, 'George
isn't going to be in it; he didn't have time.' And I went, 'I am in it.'"
As Clooney explained during an interview at the Hotel du Cap in nearby Cap
D'Antibes, ER had wanted him to return since the season began. But good pal
Anthony Edwards, who's remained on the medical drama, had a different
perspective on a Clooney return. 
"Tony said to me, 'For you to be coming back for one episode, with all the
publicity and hype, [it] may not be good for the show. We've spent a year trying
to address how the show is without you.' I said, 'I understand.'" 
But when Julianna Margulies' twins were due, and the actress was definitely
leaving the series as well, it changed the landscape. "Our assumption was I was
going to have do something," Clooney said. So he was "really sneaky" and filmed
his part with a crew of four in Seattle on the shores of Lake Washington. The
show's executive producer kept the footage at home and promised Clooney that "if
someone sells the story, I won't attach it to the [episode] and [air] it." 
"It wouldn't be fair to do publicity and have me do two lines," Clooney figured.
"We pulled it off, and it was a well-kept secret." 
At least until the last minute, when — with Clooney in — the show was sent to
New York via satellite for broadcast. NBC, on the day of the show, then did
on-air promos promising a surprise guest. "NBC can't help stepping on their own
feet," said an obviously bummed-out Clooney. "And to promote it after we worked
so hard to keep it a secret." 
Neither NBC nor ER's production company were available for rebuttal: The
network's publicity people are mostly in New York to unveil their fall lineup,
and the show's production company is currently on hiatus. 
Reporting by Stephen Schaefer in Cannes
_________________________________
Clooney Pulls Off
'ER' Surprise
NBC bigs caught off guard
by star's top-secret return
By RICHARD HUFF
Daily News Staff Writer   05/12/2000
George Clooney returned to NBC's "ER" last night. In what was the most closely
guarded programming secret in years, Clooney turned up briefly at the end of
last night's episode. As Dr. Doug Ross, he was reunited with lost love Nurse
Carol Hathaway (Julianna Margulies).
The surprise, pulled off with the precision of a Gulf War bombing mission, was
unknown to anyone outside of those who worked on the scene and top executives at
Warner Bros. TV, where the show is produced.
So secretive was the production, the executives at NBC didn't know about
Clooney's appearance until late Wednesday night, when the completed show was
delivered to the network, sources said.
"George came back to help us conclude the six-year love story between Doug Ross
and Carol Hathaway," said executive producer John Wells in a statement. "We shot
the 60-second scene several weeks ago in Seattle before George had to leave to
promote his new Ethan and Joel Coen film ["O Brother, Where Art Thou?"] at
Cannes."
Clooney did the work for union scale — a grand total of $596 — and "for old
friends and for the many fans of this long-running story line," Wells added.
Keeping the scene a secret cost NBC's an opportunity to promote Clooney's
appearance. "I wouldn't say we're upset," said a network source. "Part of us
feels it's fun for the viewers. Part of us says we really wish we could take
advantage of it."
Whether intentional or not, Wells' move prevented NBC's promotion department
from overblowing the importance of the appearance.
Typically, the production of any series requires contact between the network and
the show producers at several stages along the way, including the initial script
approval and viewing of rough cuts.
Sources say, however, NBC was presented scripts that included an alternative
ending and no hint of a return of Dr. Ross.
Adding to the intrigue were comments by Clooney himself in early April that he
had never been contacted by the folks at "ER" about coming back.
Whether Clooney would return to the series has been one of Tinseltown's biggest
party games in the past year. He left the show in February 1999, though since
that day there has been near constant speculation that he would return for an
episode. That talk came to a fever pitch as the current season ticked down to
the departure of Nurse Hathaway (actress Margulies is exiting the series).
When Ross left "ER," the story line had him going to Seattle, leaving behind
Hathaway. It was revealed afterward that she was pregnant with twins. Fans of
the series and some of the cast often said they felt it was necessary for Ross
and Hathaway to get together, if only for a moment, to bring the relationship to
a close.
Last night, viewers saw Hathaway getting on a plane for a destination not
revealed. Then she arrived in Seattle, where she met up with Ross in the end.
Margulies is the latest member of the "ER" cast to leave the show. She did so
after turning down an offer worth $27 million to remain for a couple of more
seasons.
Yesterday, Margulies told radio morning man Howard Stern that while "ER" was a
great gig, she needed to move on no matter what the cash offer. "It couldn't be
a monetary decision," she said. "I couldn't be a rich sad person." She admitted
most people couldn't fathom how someone could walk away from such a big payday.
"In all honesty, it was a big decision," she said. "But I'm glad I'm out of it."
Fans of the series shouldn't bank on either Clooney or Margulies turning up on
the drama in the future. Said Wells: "We wish Julianna all the best in her
future pursuits and neither she nor George will be returning to 'ER' again."
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te ghé resùn!
Fausto \ in pieno, aggiungo ;-))