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Titolo: Guinea Bissau: chi la conosce?

Toc toc..... e' permesso?
Salve a tutti,
sono nuovo di queste parti: ho pensato a questo NG per cercare delle info su
un viaggio che vorrei fare.
Recentemente sono stato a Capoverde (che paradiso....) e ho sentito parlare
bene ma molto bene della Guinea Bissau.
Vorrei andarci in vacanza: c'e' qualcuno  che ha avuto esperienze di viaggio
in quel Paese? Tenete presente che ci sarebbero con me anche i due ragazzi
(14 e 10 anni) oltre alla signora.
Ci sono sistemazioni buone? Com'e' l'alimentazione ? rischi? Qual'e' il
periodo migliore? Sulla natura credo ci sia da dire poco (o molto, secondo i
punti di vista), dovrebbe essere ancora un paradiso incontaminato con
pochissimi turisti fra i piedi.
Ogni suggerimento, link, consiglio, attenzione sara' estremamente gradito.
Grazie
Giorgio

 un viaggio che vorrei fare.
Intanto benvenuto,
qua č pieno di gente che saprą aiutarti... io sfortunatamente l'Africa
non l'ho mai vista ancora... ma vedrai che presto avrai tutte le
informazioni che ti servono!
-- 
Marco Zecchinelli
"io sono solo un povero cadetto di Guascogna
perņ non la sopporto la gente che non sogna"
Cyrano - F. Guccini
http://members.xoom.it/marquito

bene ma molto bene della Guinea Bissau.
Puoi dare un occhiata per una prima valutazione del rischio su:
http://www.lonely-planet.com/destinations/africa/guinea_bissau/
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/pu.html
mi pare rischiosetto....
Antonello

ClariNet story GBISSAU from AFP
Guinea-Bissau: small, poor and turbulent
Copyright 2000 by Agence France-Presse (via ClariNet) / Thu, 23 Nov
2000 10:40:06 PST
BISSAU, Nov 23 (AFP) - The small west African state of Guinea-Bissau
is one of the world's poorest countries, its already weak economy
further shattered by 11 months of army rebellion during 1998-99.
This uprising was led by General Ansumane Mane, who organised the
overthrow of former President Joao Bernardo Vieira in May 1999 and
became military ruler until the following February.
On Monday, Mane bypassed President Kumba Yala, and declared himself
chief of staff of the army, where he has long enjoyed wide support,
and the country has been plunged into renewed turmoil.
The former Portuguese colony, bounded by Senegal and Guinea, has been
independent since September 1974. It has an area of 36,100 square
kilometres (14,400 sq miles) and a population of 1.1 million.
The official languages are Portuguese and local languages, and the
capital is Bissau.
The first president, Luiz Cabral, who declared unilateral independence
from Portugal in 1973 during a liberation war, was deposed by the army
in 1980. Joao Bernardo Vieira replaced him and was elected by the
National Assembly in 1984 to the post of President of the State
Council.
A multi-party system was introduced in 1991 and Vieira and his African
Party for the Independence of Guinea Bissau and Cape Verde (PAIGC) won
the 1994 general election, the country's first pluralist poll.
In June 1998, after he had been fired from his post as chief of staff,
Mane led a junta in a military rebellion, overthrowing Vieira the
following May.
The present head of state, Kumba Yala, representing the Party of
Social Renewal (PRS), won the presidential election in two rounds
November last year and last January with 72 percent of the popular
vote, beating the interim president and PAIGC candidate, Malam Bacai
Sanha, who was backed by the military junta.
The PRS has 37 of the 102 seats in the National Assembly, the
Guinea-Bissau Resistance Movement-Bafata (RGB) has 27, and the PAIGC,
the former party in power, 25.
In October, the State Council comprising parties in parliament and
civic leaders, was installed to assist the president in major
decision-making.
Guinea-Bissau is classed as one of the poorest countries in the world,
with a gross national product of only 160 dollars per inhabitant, in
1998 according the World Bank. External debt was 964 million dollars
in 1998 .
Unofficial estimates put the size of the army at some 15,000 soldiers.
Last August, demobilisation began to reduce its size to 9,000.
ClariNet story GBISSAU-POLITICS-VILLAGE from AFP / Tidiane Sy
Guinea Bissau village stormed by army hunting renegade general
Copyright 2000 by Agence France-Presse (via ClariNet) / Mon, 27 Nov
2000 9:30:14 PST
QUINHAMEL, Guinea-Bissau, Nov 27 (AFP) - This sleepy Guinea-Bissau
village was still in shock Monday after guns and uniforms flooded its
streets and the army threatened to shell the place where the leader of
last week's army mutiny was thought to be hiding.
Quinhamel has been bristling with soldiers hunting rebel General
Ansumane Mane, who declared himself head of the army but was forced to
flee the capital Bissau, 40 kilometres (25 miles) away, when a bid
openly to defy the elected president turned sour.
"I haven't had a wink of sleep for the last five days," said the
town's governor, Daniel Souleymane Embalo, whose house was surrounded
by around 50 well-armed troops.
"The inhabitants of Quinhamel are not used to seeing soldiers," the
governor explained. "When one of them comes near the house, even if
it's just to ask for a glass of water, the children run away."
Clustered in front of their houses and in the streets, the locals were
watching the "foreigners" who have taken over their town and who, on
Saturday, threatened to shell it to shake out the hiding rebel leader,
whose whereabouts have led to contradictory statements from Bissau
authorities.
Mane, a former military ruler, proclaimed himself army chief and
"supreme commander" of a revived junta last Monday, but fled to
Quinhamel, according to some sources in the armed forces, after
loyalist forces overcame his men in fighting on Wednesday and Thursday
that fighting 10 dead.
While the whereabouts of the general remained uncertain, members of
his family, including his wife, were brought back to Bissau from
Quinhamel on Sunday.
The renegade soldier ousted one head of state in May 1999 then ran a
junta in parallel with a transitional adminstration until standing
down last February in favour of elected President Kumba Yala - whose
government this weekend denied that a witch-hunt was now on after
several opposition figures were arrested.
The government does, however, claim that Mane had been plotting a coup
with the backing of several political figures after his failed bid
last week to take back control of the army after objecting to military
appointments made by Yala.
Much of the small, impoverished country in tropical west Africa
believes the general is hiding in the parish of Our Lady, probably
under the protection of the church, where about 200 people normally
attend mass each Sunday.
But the smiling, bearded parish priest, George Falcao, was adamant:
"If he was here, we would have handed him over to the authorities as
we did with the others."
At no point, Falcao insisted, had his church sheltered the hunted
rebel leader. This Sunday, however, "more people than usual came to
mass: perhaps almost 300."
"That probably has to do with the recent events," the priest
suggested.
Guinea-Bissau government arrests 181 after 'coup bid'
Copyright 2000 by Agence France-Presse (via ClariNet) / Mon, 27 Nov
2000 10:20:12 PST
BISSAU, Nov 27 (AFP) - Guinea-Bissau authorities had arrested almost
200 army officers and politicians by Monday, along with separatist
fighters from neighbouring Senegal, whom they accuse of working with
fugitive General Ansumane Mane in a foiled coup bid.
A humanitarian source, who asked not to be named, said those detained
included "73 officers and top politicians very close" to Mane, a
former military ruler who has been on the run since a foiled rebellion
last week.
On the basis of a count established late Sunday, security services
were also holding 108 fighters from neighbouring Casamance province,
in southern Senegal, who had rallied to Mane, the source said.
Diplomatic sources in the capital Bissau confirmed the report.
Mane last Wednesday and Thursday led a rebellion against President
Kumba Yala, after falling out with the head of state over a series of
military appointments, but fled following clashes in and around the
capital Bissau.
The government later accused the renegade general of plotting a coup
with opposition politicians, saying it had found "a secret list of
people who were to occupy positions in a future government."
Prime Minister Caetano Ntchma told AFP "there will not be a
witchhunt," but confirmed Sunday that several opposition party leaders
had already been arrested.
Mane's whereabouts remained unknown.
The president of the former sole, ruling African Party for the
Independence of Guinea-Bissau and Cape Verde (PAIGC), Francisco
Benante, was arrested at his home, where a cache of weapons and
grenades was found, Ntchma said.
A leading opposition figure, Agnelo Regala, was arrested on Saturday
along with Rambout Barcelo, president of the Union for Change party,
and two of his party's deputies in the national assembly.
Only hours before his arrest, Regala had warned that the government
was carrying out a "political cleansing" operation with the help of
the army.
The former leader of Guinea-Bissau's human rights league and president
of the Guinean Socialist Alliance, Fernanado Gomes, was also arrested.
Gomes, who heads a political forum grouping together five small
parties, had organised a rally against the government on November 15.
The humanitarian source confirmed that the group of 73 officers and
top politicians was being held at the central police station in
Bissau.
The other detainees, including some Casamance rebels who are close to
Mane, were being held in several military camps in Bissau and in a
camp at Mansoa, in the centre of the country.
A mediation team led by UN envoy Samuel Nanan Sinkam, Bissau
Archbishop Jose Camnato and the Guinean and Gambian ambassadors, is
seeking to resolve the political crisis without bloodshed.
The team on Monday broadcast a radio appeal to Mane to "take refuge in
a mosque or a church". Initial military reports said he had indeed
holed up in a church at Quinhamel parish north of the capital, but the
local priest denied this.
Between June 1998 and May 1999, Mane led the military in an
insurrection against then PAIGC president Joao Bernardo Vieira, when
each accused the other of trafficking in arms to Casamance
separatists.
Several hundred people were killed when Vieira was ousted.
The Casamance Movement of Democratic Forces (MFDC) has always had
bases in Guinea-Bissau where one of the leaders of the group's armed
wing, Salif Sadio, has taken refuge.
Other members of the MFDC who are opposed to Sadio, have joined the
loyalist Guinea-Bissau forces, several sources in Bissau said.
Casamance rebels fought alongside Mane's men in his first uprising
which led to to the downfall of Vieira, despite his support from the
Guinean and Senegalese armies.
ClariNet story GBISSAU-THREAT from AFP
Former GBissau president says he received death threat
Copyright 2000 by Agence France-Presse (via ClariNet) / Wed, 29 Nov
2000 13:00:10 PST
BISSAU, Nov 29 (AFP) - The former president of Guinea-Bissau said
Wednesday he received a death threat following reports that the
opposition was behind an alleged coup attempt last week, led by a now
fugitive general.
Malam Bacai Sanha, who led the country between March 1998 and May
1999, told a press conference he had received "an anonymous telephone
call" with the threat.
Sanha, a member of the long-ruling African Party for the Independence
of Guinea-Bissau and Cap Verde (PAIGC) told AFP "the voice (on the
telephone) was not familiar to me, but I took the threat seriously
because all my guards have been disarmed."
PAIGC President Francisco Benante was arrested last week along with
several other leading opposition figures. The government has accused
them of being behind the rebellion.
Guinea-Bissau was thrown into confusion last week, when General
Ansumane Mane, a former military ruler fell out with President Kumba
Yala over a series of military appointments.
Mane fled following clashes, but the government said late Wednesday
that his arrest was imminent.
Sanha said he had informed the police of the situation. Minister of
Civil Service Artur Sanha said Wednesday the former president had
nothing to fear and that his security was guaranteed.
The opposition has expressed its concern over the increasing arrest of
its members and that so many of its leaders remain in prison.
Antonello

Copyright 2000 by Agence France-Presse (via ClariNet) / Thu, 23
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URGH!! Basta e avanza! :-((
Povera gente.
Credo proprio che mi cerchero' un altro paradiso, questo e' uno di quei...
Paradisi che si aspetta fino al'ultimo prima di frequentarli, mi sa.
Grazie Antonello, a questo punto sono daccapo: rifaccio il post ex novo
sperando in qualche idea di qualche fortunato world sailor.
Grazie anche a MArco per il benvenuto
Giorgio

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Il Golfo di Guinea è abbastanza movimentato per quanto riguarda
ribellioni colpi di stato etc. 
Io conosco bene il Ghana (piuttosto sicuro) dove sono stato 3
settimane e dove tormerò il prossimo gennaio per 1 mese (questo fine
settimana hanno le elezioni ma spero bene poichè il posto è tranquillo
da 15 anni). Insieme al Benin rappresenta uno dei pochi paradisi del
turista "faidate"  e con pochi soldi.
Altro posto famoso per ospitalità, prezzi e sicurezza e il Malawi. Ma
l'Africa è grande e ci vuole una vita per visitarla.

l'Africa è grande e ci vuole una vita per visitarla.
che bello.... grazie ma, come ho scritto in un altro post, devo utilizzare
il periodo estivo (scuole, Natale con i tuoi....) quindi  ho purtroppo dei
limiti. Ghana e Benin sono vivibili per un europeo fra giugno e settembre?
Giorgio

Ghana e Benin sono vivibili per un europeo fra giugno e settembre?
Non č il periodo migliore (piů umido).
Antonello

 ha picchiettato:
:)se non sbaglio in questo momento e perversata dalla guerra civile(come del
:)resto altri paesi dell'Africa occidentale:Sierra Leona,Liberia).Potrei anche
:)sbagliarmi,quindi cerca di informarti molto attentamente.
:)pablito
Ad integrazione
Guinea-Bissau
Last Updated: 13 June 2000
Still Current at: 07 December 2000
Life in Guinea Bissau has returned to normal though war damage has
seriously impaired utilities and infrastructure. Both the port and
airport are open and banks have reopened. Following peaceful elections
a new government took office in February.
Travel in the border area with Senegal should be avoided. Elsewhere
visitors should be vigilant at all times and avoid carrying valuables
in public.
Medical facilities in Guinea Bissau are extremely poor. Comprehensive
travel insurance, including the cost of repatriation, should be taken
out for all visits. Visitors should carry basic medical supplies. 
vincio
 
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Non è il periodo migliore (più umido).
Bel colpo!!  <:-(
Grz
Giorgio