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Titolo: Derterminismo/Stoicismo/Seneca

Salve a tutti.
Per la tesina di maturità dovrei parlare del determinismo nel pensiero
stoico e dovrei rintracciare questa componente in Seneca. Potreste aiutarmi
a trovare passi/citazioni/bibliografia a riguardo? Grazie
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Premesso che ti stai buttando su una cosa in fondo molto specialistica,
e se invece volessi combinare qualcosa di carino su Seneca e trovare
spunti per i famigerati "collegamenti" potresti trovarne leggendo AA.VV,
_Seneca nella coscienza dell'Europa_, a cura di I. DIONIGI, Milano Bruno
Mondadori 1999 (molto bello il contributo di Cambiano su "Seneca
scienziato", ti mando una bibliografona. Come te la cavi con le lingue
straniere? ;)
Opere generali:
Author 1	Grilli A.
Author 2	Barigazzi A.
Chapter/Article Title	Stoicismo ed epicureismo nell'et? imperiale
APh Volume	47
APh Page	299
APh Rubric	Seneca Philosophus
APh Cross-Reference	10835
Cross references	
10835	Grilli A., Barigazzi A. Stoicismo ed Epicureismo nell'et?
imperiale. Seneca, Epitteto, Marco Aurelio.
Author 1	Dominici C.
Chapter/Article Title	Epicureismo e stoicismo nella Roma antica
;Title Comment	S?n?que
APh Volume	59
APh Page	339
APh Rubric	Seneca Philosophus
APh Cross-Reference	14552
Cross references	
14552	Dominici Caterina Epicureismo e stoicismo nella Roma antica.
Lucrezio, Virgilio, Orazio (Odi civili), Seneca.
Su Seneca e lo stoicismo:
Author 1	Grimal Pierre
Chapter/Article Title	S?n?que et le sto?cisme romain
Book Title	ANRW
Book Volume	II
Journal Issue	36,3
Date of Publication	1989
Location of Article	1962-1992
;Modern Language	French
Type of Record	Article in Journal
APh Volume	60
APh Page	311
APh ID	4623
APh Rubric	Seneca Philosophus
Journal Abbreviations	
ANRW	Aufstieg und Niedergang der r?mischen Welt. Geschichte und Kultur
Roms im Spiegel der neueren Forschung, Berlin, de Gruyter
Author 1	Tanner R. G.
Chapter/Article Title	Stoic philosophy and Roman tradition in Senecan
tragedy
Book Title	ANRW
Book Volume	II
Journal Issue	32.2
Date of Publication	1985
Location of Article	1100-1133
;Modern Language	English
Type of Record	Article in Journal
APh Volume	56
APh Page	267
APh ID	4237
APh Rubric	Seneca Philosophus
Journal Abbreviations	
ANRW	Aufstieg und Niedergang der r?mischen Welt. Geschichte und Kultur
Roms im Spiegel der neueren Forschung, Berlin, de Gruyter
Sul determinismo stoico:
Author 1	Sharples R. W.
Chapter/Article Title	Soft determinism and freedom in early stoicism
Book Title	Phronesis
Book Volume	XXXI
Date of Publication	1986
Location of Article	266-279
;Modern Language	English
Abstract	Discussion des th?ses d?fendues dans l'article de S. Botros
(cf. N° 12175).
Type of Record	Article in Journal
APh Volume	57
APh Page	729
APh ID	12316
APh Rubric	Philosophie et histoire des id?es
APh Cross-Reference	12175
Cross references	
12175	Botros S. Freedom, causality, fatalism and early stoic philosophy.
Journal Abbreviations	
Phronesis	Phronesis. A Journal for ancient Philosophy, Assen, van Gorcum
Author 1	Stough C.
Chapter/Article Title	Stoic determinism and moral responsibility
Book Title	The Stoics
Location of Article	203-231
;Modern Language	English
Type of Record	Article in Collection
APh Volume	54
APh Page	802
APh ID	14145
APh Rubric	Philosophie et histoire des id?es
APh Cross-Reference	49 12163
Cross references	
49 12163	The Stoics.
Author 1	Botros S.
Chapter/Article Title	Freedom, causality, fatalism and early stoic
philosophy
Book Title	Phronesis
Book Volume	XXX
Date of Publication	1985
Location of Article	274-304
;Modern Language	English
Abstract	Le concept de libert? des premiers sto?ciens ?tait si lacunaire
que la possibilit? d'un conflit entre elle et le d?terminisme, qui
faisait aussi partie de leur doctrine, ne les effleurait simplement pas,
puisque les deux th?mes ?taient trait?s s?par?ment. Ce c?t? original et
m?me bizarre du sto?cisme primitif est obscurci par l'interpr?tation en
cat?gories modernes.
Type of Record	Article in Journal
APh Volume	57
APh Page	722
APh ID	12175
APh Rubric	Philosophie et histoire des id?es
Cross references	
	Sharples R. W. Soft determinism and freedom in early stoicism.
	review 1989.
Journal Abbreviations	
Phronesis	Phronesis. A Journal for ancient Philosophy, Assen, van Gorcum
Author 1	Stough C.
Chapter/Article Title	Stoic determinism and moral responsibility
Book Title	The Stoics
Location of Article	203-231
;Modern Language	English
Type of Record	Article in Collection
APh Volume	54
APh Page	802
APh ID	14145
APh Rubric	Philosophie et histoire des id?es
APh Cross-Reference	49 12163
Cross references	
49 12163	The Stoics.
Author 1	Gould J. B.
Chapter/Article Title	The Stoic conception of fate
Book Title	JHI
Book Volume	XXXV
Date of Publication	1974
Location of Article	17-32
;Modern Language	English
Abstract	The Stoics held that by fate no individual could act otherwise
than in accordance with common nature and in accordance with the logos
of common nature. Nothing happens without a cause, but rather in
accordance with previous causes. The Stoics felt that, in view of the
deterministic coloring of their philosophy, a man is ultimately not
responsible for his character.
Type of Record	Article in JournalAPh Volume	45
APh Page	730
APh ID	10100
APh Rubric	Philosophie et histoire des id?es
Journal Abbreviations	
JHI	Journal of the History of Ideas, Ephrata, Penna
E infine ecco servito su un piatto d'argento un lavoro
multitransmegadisciplinare (mi limiterei al riassunto...)
Author 1	Sfendoni-Mentzou D.
Chapter/Article Title	Determinism and indeterminism in ancient atomic
theory and in modern physics
Book Title	ist Congr. on Democritus
Location of Article	221-232
;Modern Language	Greek (modern) res: English
Notes	r?s. p. 232
Type of Record	Article in Collection
APh Volume	55
APh Page	745
APh ID	12949
APh Rubric	Philosophie et histoire des id?es
APh Cross-Reference	1402
Cross references	
1402	Proceedings of the ist international Congress on Democritus, Xanthi
6-9 october 1983.
No, avendoci perso cinque minuti non ho trovato niente dal titolo "il
determinismo stoico in Seneca", ma esiste sicuramente ;)

 tHeNetRunner
Cordialità
Sinuhe
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"zerotolerance"  ha scritto:
Forse ti potrebbe bastare, almeno per iniziare e farti un'idea dei concetti
fondamentali della visione stoica il classico:
Pohlenz, Max
La Stoa, Firenze, La Nuova Italia
ciao
Iperboreo

Ringrazio tuti quelli che mi hanno aiutato... chiedo troppo se potreste
individuarmi qualche pasettino da Seneca dove si evidenzia la concezione
stoica del destino?.
Thanx
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