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Titolo: [OT] La politica italiana come l'opera (lungo e inglese)

Se non fossi un cittadino italiano quest'articolo mi farebbe fare un sacco 
di risate.
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/02/05/italy.vinci/index.html
Analysis: Bombast and comedy in Italy's political opera
By CNN's Rome Bureau Chief Alessio Vinci
ROME, Italy (CNN) -- I know, news of yet another Italian political crisis is 
not very exciting, certainly not easy to explain and in the end chances are 
that the next prime minister will keep his job for a year or two, and then 
the circus will start again.
But there are a few reasons why, even if you don't care, you should keep an 
eye on what is going on here in Italy now that the president has dissolved 
parliament and called for new elections in April.
First, in case you missed it, this crisis will likely bring Silvio 
Berlusconi back to power. That alone, if you like entertainment, is one good 
reason to stay tuned. Second, his challenger is someone you probably don't 
know but you will learn to like. And third, Italian politics is like opera: 
Bombastic, dramatic and amusing.
Let us start with Berlusconi's comeback: In fact the media mogul has never 
gone away. He lost the 2006 elections by a handful of votes (26,000) and 
most observers predicted Romani Prodi would not last long.
The country was split in half then and Prodi made the mistake not to share 
power with him or other opposition politicians (a sort of German style grand 
coalition if you will).
The country today remains split, except that Berlusconi now enjoys more 
support than before since Prodi's outgoing government is hugely unpopular. 
It achieved modest progress, but in 20 months managed to raise taxes, and 
that never goes down well with voters. Hence, Berlusconi is poised to win 
the vote.
His challenger is Walter Veltroni, the current mayor or Rome. By Italian 
standards, at 52, he is a young politician. Not new on the political scene 
(he was Prodi's deputy in 1996-98) but he has just formed a new political 
party and has become a household name.
Veltroni is a movie buff who created the Rome Film Festival, wrote a novel 
and is just as media savvy as Berlusconi. Veltroni and Berlusconi share the 
ability to speak directly to the people, avoiding complicated political 
lingo that often bores voters and supporters. He will put up a formidable 
challenge against Berlusconi, but still he is unlikely to win.
Why? Well, here comes the third reason why you should care and pay attention 
to what is going on here, but probably won't because you don't like opera.
One of the reasons of political instability is the current electoral law, 
which is highly proportional and allows small parties with minimal 
representation to become king makers in any coalition government. Prodi 
needed nine political parties to muster enough support to run a government. 
They often squabbled, bickered and struggled to remain united.
Veltroni has promised voters he will not seek a similar coalition with small 
parties (like Communists and Greens for example) and therefore he will run 
alone. However Berlusconi will lead a center-right coalition, so even if 
Veltroni receives more votes than Berlusconi (difficult, but certainly a 
possibility) he will still have less votes than his opponent, who is running 
together with allies of his former government.
Thanks to the current law, Berlusconi would become prime minister thanks to 
a complicated vote tally that awards parliament's seats to the winning 
coalition.
You still don't like opera? Here is an aria from the current crisis you 
probably missed.
Two weeks ago Prodi was forced to resign after his justice minister, 
Clemente Mastella, withdrew his support following the arrest of his wife on 
corruption charges. Mastella himself was put under investigation.
It turned out the magistrate who ordered the arrest did not have the 
authority to do so, and she was released a few days ago (though she remains 
under investigation). In other words this latest crisis began with the 
actions of a magistrate who simply overstepped his authority.
But wait, there is more.
You think Berlusconi will have an easier task in keeping his coalition 
together? Just before Christmas one of Berlusconi's main political allies, 
Gianfranco Fini who leads the National Alliance, declared that he had broken 
forever with Berlusconi, after one of his television channels broadcast an 
embarrassing video of Fini's new girlfriend with a former lover.
The matter was so serious that Berlusconi announced the creation of a new 
party called "People of Liberty". Needless to say today this party will not 
run in upcoming elections and Fini together with other political allies have 
fallen into line. They will all run together with Berlusconi under the old 
"House of Freedoms" coalition.
You still don't like this political drama unfolding day after day, week 
after week, every night on television news? Here is a snapshot of what the 
upcoming political campaign could look like.
When Prodi lost the confidence vote last week, lawmakers in the ornate 
chambers of the Italian Senate (the second highest authority in the country) 
were seen yelling at each other words such as "traitor!" and "piece of 
s---!"
Meanwhile Berlusconi's allies uncorked bottles of sparking wine on the 
Senate floor as the speaker implored order screaming: "This is not a tavern 
here!"
Polls may suggest that Berlusconi will likely win this election, but they 
also indicate that Italians are fed up with politics, politicians and their 
perceived inability to care about the country's needs.
Lets hope this election will be less about drama an more about what the 
people need, because in the end it is the credibility of a country that is 
at stake, not just the seriousness of its leaders.
-- 
Pizza67
If you find yourself caught in love
say a prayer to the man above
and thank him for every day you pass
you should thank him for saving your sorry ass.

 
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Effettivamente lo spettacolo visto dall'estero deve essere 
tragi-comico... Povera Italia!
-- 
Junebug
The User Formerly Known as Vit 1975


Beato lui che si diverte, a me mi pare 'na tragedia!

Freethinker ha scritto:
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Ma infatti il senso dell'articolo era: lo so che non vi frega nulla 
della situazione politica in Italia, però vi assicuro che se la seguite 
vi farete un sacco di risate!
Chi piange siamo proprio noi invece.
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 vi farete un sacco di risate!
 
...esatto!
É proprio cosí che ci vedono qui all'estero: l'Italia é un paese che ormai non
ha piú nulla da dire a livello internazionale: i nostri politicanti vogliono
dialogare da pari con il Regno Unito, la Germania, la Francia.
SIAMO FUORI DAI GIOCHI...e loro lo sanno benissimo.
Vista da qui la crisi italiana é lontanissima... il livello di provincialismo
raggiunto dai nostri governanti ci ha fatto regredire come non mai.
 
Chiedo ad un amico tedesco qual é il pensiero dominante sull'Italia dopo
l'ultima crisi di governo: non gliene pó fregá de meno.
Il tedesco va in Italia (sempre di meno) si abboffa di vino, pasta e cittá
d'arte e poi se ne ritorna nella sua amata Germania.
Italia come paese da sfruttare... al pari della Grecia, Turchia, Spagna etc..
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 di risate.
ma che speranze vuoi avere se poi leggi sul Corriere le seguenti parole:
"l Udeur è pronta a presentarsi con la Cdl con il suo simbolo, per dragare
voti a favore della coalizione anche nelle Regioni dove non può superare
il 3%, ma vuole essere salvaguardata nella «riserva» che scatterà con il
premio di maggioranza. E in ogni caso, Mastella non ha intenzione di
ritirare la sua delegazione da tutte le giunte locali dove governa con il
centrosinistra."
Insomma Mastella si presenta con FI solo in alcuni posti, mentre in altri
resta con il centrosinistra, il traformista all'interno del trasformismo,
incredibile...siamo in mano a gente senza dignita'.
Geppo
-- 
su MSN : suninarainyday (at) 
libero.it

 Beato lui che si diverte, a me mi pare 'na tragedia!
E' la risata del colonizzatore...

 incredibile...siamo in mano a gente senza dignita'.
Vabbuò ma tu stai in Irlanda che te ne fott! :-)

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il fatto e' che un giorno vorrei tornare a casa in un paese non dico civile
ma almeno moderno.
ma piu' passa il tempo e piu' vedo lontano il giorno del ritorno..
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 ma piu' passa il tempo e piu' vedo lontano il giorno del ritorno..
Beh stiamo andando verso una politica bipolare stile USA più 
moderno di così :-)

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Il signore in questione è italianissimo.

 Il signore in questione è italianissimo.
Mi era sfuggito, comunque anche a me fa ridere poi se ci sarà 
berlusconi sarà ancora più divertente XD

 ma piu' passa il tempo e piu' vedo lontano il giorno del ritorno..
 
Caro Geppo, ti quoto (con tristezza) dalla Germania!!
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 di risate.
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Vivo all'estero, GB. Ci sono molte cose che colpiscono delle ripetute
crisi italiane, innanzitutto la frequenza, considerata la loro
stabilitá; poi la vecchiezza sia dei personaggi che delle idee,
Cameron (leader dei conservatori ha poco piú di 40 anni), l'estrema
sinistra è composta da 4 gatti, mentre quella destra è politicamente
isolatissima, nessuno dei 3 partiti presenti al parlamento si
sognerebbe una coalizione con gli estremi; infine sorprende la nostra
litigiositá politica, esagerata.
Ho votato qui l'ultima volta l'anno scorso (per il comune), qui lo
scempio dei manifesti che ricoprono le cittá non c'è, al massimo un
volantino forse due. Era di Giovedí verso le 6.00 di sera, credetemi
ero da solo al seggio, mi hanno visto entrare e dalla gioia quasi mi
offrivano un "tea" con biscotti, si vota su un banchetto, spalle
scoperte, nessuno ti guarda, gli inglesi sanno che chiunque li
governerá lo fará tenendo conto degli interessi del paese, che poi
possono non corrispondere agli interessi di tutti ma almeno a quello
della maggior parte.
Noi siamo qualche decenno indietro.