Newsgroup: it.arti.fotografia
Titolo: EFKE, la verità (lungo)

Credo di fare cosa utile per qualcuno interessato.
Visto che si era parlato della Fotokemika e delle pellicole Efke, vi mando
la risposta alla mia domanda fatta a PHOTOIMPEX, visto che hanno risposto
solo loro (Photokemika al momento latita, credo per validi motivi)
-----la domanda-----
Dear Sir,
Thanks for the catalogue.
Years ago I used to buy EFKE films and papers from the italian importer
NEMEZ import-export.
Recently I have contacted NEMEZ in order to have information about new
prices but they told me that the Fotokemika's production is over and the
firm is on liquidation. They also told me that the merchandise I can find on
european internet sites (like Photoimpex) comes from stocks and it is on
sale as long as stocks last.
Is it true?
I am writing to you to obtain information about the production of EFKE
photographic stuff and their availability in Europe nowadays and in the
years to come.
I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience.
Yours faithfully,
[firma]
-----la risposta-----
Dear Mr [nome],
thank you for your interest in our products.
Parts of your information are right and parts are wrong.
It is true that due to croatian legislation Fotokemika was not able to lay
off excess staff in the past years which eventually led to the bankcupcy of
the old Fotokemika d.d.
The b/w market is decreasing worldwide and if you as a faktory are not able
to reduce staff when you produce less material you will eventually go
bankrupt.
But this does not necessarily affect the availability of the efke film in a
way that you imagine it.
Fotokemika has already founded Fotokeimka Nova and until July the production
is secured at the current location.
In the same time we are building up a stock sufficent enough to supply for
the time of restructuring.
efke films are not very difficult to make. They are simply technology
material.
The production has been moved twice in the past 10 years without the
customer even noticing it.
Possibly, if the production cannot be kept in Samobor we will license it to
another factory in another country.
But in any means no maker of film and photopaper will guarantee you a
constant suplly of the same materials for the next 10 years.
The average lifecycle of a b/w film is about 5-9 years. After this there
will be some changes done to the emulsion.
Kodak has just changed all their films.
efke films were changed constantly as well. Older chemical compounds are
replaced by newer chemicals, the gelatine is changing all the time, the base
materials were replaced, the stabilizers were improoved.
Constantly a photo factory has to do something to their films because the
world is turning and technology goes on and ingredients and base materials
change.
The second factor is the demand. As long as we have a demand for efke films
we will do something to supply efke or efke-like slow speed single layer
films.
Right now it looks very good. Sales tripple every year and keep on
increasing.
Only the 50 ASA film underperforms and will vanish- we are selling of the
last stocks.
The 25 ASA we have already an alternative, improoved emulsion in the test
state.
The 100 ASA we have enough stocks for one year and meanwhile we will see how
efke decides to restructure their production in order to decide if we
license this emulsion to another company as well or if we can keep buying
raw material from efke.
In any ways the whole process of making these films is reorganized.
Factories like efke or Foma will only make the raw materials for us in the
future, meeting improoved quality standards set and controled by us.
The coated material will then be moved to the most modern confectioning line
in europe to be confectionated scratch and error free in western quality
cartridges.
All films will be rebranded ADOX (the original name efke technology film was
sold under in the 50/60ies) and distributed by fotoimpex.
The advantage for the customer is that all films will have the same quality
controle set by us and the same cartidges/boxes.
This increased quality and work will lead to an only minor increase in price
because we can also lower production costs this way on some ends.
I hope to have answered your questions in a satisfying way and wish you
great pictures on our fine photomaterials.
Regards from Berlin,
Mirko Böddecker
Fotoimpex


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Una lettura molto interessante ed una disponibilità incredibile di chi ti ha
risposto.
Massimo

 Credo di fare cosa utile per qualcuno interessato.
Grazie, chiarito ogni dubbio.
In definitiva possiamo stare tranquilli per almeno qualche anno, anche se
Efke dovesse tornare a chiamarsi Adox. Pare che restino garantite sia la 25
che la 100, che sono le emulsioni che a me interessano di piů.
-- 
Phil O'Sophy || Filippo M. Caroti
www.filippocaroti.com
philmc[at]fastwebnet[dot]it
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caspita che disponibilità, roba rara dalle nostre parti!

Ma le EFKE chi le importa in Italia?

 Efke dovesse tornare a chiamarsi Adox.
Adox: grazie per avermelo ricordato.
del resto gli stabilimenti di stendimento della gelatina sensibile non sono
molti nel mondo. Adox e' un grande passato, Efke e' il nuovo brand
ciao
mauro

 Ma le EFKE chi le importa in Italia?
Accidenti, ma allora o sei duro o non sono stato chiaro... :))))
Nessuno, non più per il momento almeno.
Te le devi comprare da stock sparsi in giro o da Photoimpex, che pare
diventerà una specie di distrubutore europeo ADOX.

 diventerà una specie di distrubutore europeo ADOX.
no, no ok,
mi era sembrato così
ma speravo che qualche compagnia su ordine personale le prendesse
come non detto
ciao