Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: come si dice?

Ho tradotto bene?
I nostri uffici rimarranno chiusi dal 12 al 18 agosto.
Our offices will not work from 12th to 18th of august.
Come andrebbe meglio?
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Come andrebbe meglio?
Our offices will be closed from the 12th to the 18th of August.

> Our offices will be closed from the 12th to the 18th of August.
Ma è sbagliato come ho tradotto io?
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 Ma è sbagliato come ho tradotto io?
Sì; "our offices will not work" significa "i ns. uffici non
funzioneranno".
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Mary

funzioneranno".
Anche: "the 12th" & "the 18th" e mesi si scrivono con l'iniziale
maiuscola in inglese.

 maiuscola in inglese.
Do any of you * know if in a date such as the following:
"the 12th of August"
you have to write "the" and "of" or you just pronounce them? I knew the
latter was true, but I'm not sure now.
* Could I say "Do either (of you) know... ?", since I'm addressing you and
Mary in particular?
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 Mary in particular?
Normally you just say them when you're speaking; it's perfectly
acceptable to write "12th August" or "from 12th to 18th August".
The Guardian's style guide prefers:
"January 1 2000 (no commas)"
The Times style guide says:
" Monday, April 18, 1994 (never 18th April)"
These forms (month followed by day) are mainly considered to be American
usage; the traditional British usage is "18th April" or "18 April".
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Mary

acceptable to write "12th August" or "from 12th to 18th August".
Well, I shan't disagree with you Mary but "12th August" and "from 12th
to 18th August" sound very odd to me. This way round:  "August 12th"
sound OK but with the latter reversed I'd have to say: "August 12th to
the 18th".
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 the 18th".
In my opinion (as far as AmEng is concerned) it depends on whether you're
just writing a date, or you're making reference to a date. For example:
On a sign or poster or the like, I would write
"12 August 2004" or "August 12, 2004" but I would expect anyone reading it
aloud to say "the 12th of August" or "August 12th."
In the original example, a letter or notice written to inform of the range
of dates during which the office would be closed, I would write
"from the 12th to the 18th of August", as it's not a date per se.
An alternative could be "from August 12th to [August/the] 18th.
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the 18th".
I've just had a word with the wife and she's agreeing with you <sigh>
Though she did agree with me somewhat that in speech the "of" is
usually said.
I know just how Joey felt ... Damn! I hate it when that happens! :)

 I know just how Joey felt ... Damn! I hate it when that happens! :)
Maybe it's a Mars/Venus thing? :) 
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Maybe it's a Mars/Venus thing? :) 
I've just read your other post and I'm in complete agreement with you.
I'm going to start calling myself AmEng Jonny now :)

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Hooray! Another convert!  :)))
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 "from the 12th to the 18th of August", as it's not a date per se.
Does that definitely mean "including the 18th of August"?
Or might there be a [slight] ambiguity?

 Or might there be a [slight] ambiguity?
There might be, although it would generally be understood that the 18th is
included. You might see, for clarity's sake, "...to the 18th of August,
inclusive." But it's usually not necessary.
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 inclusive." But it's usually not necessary.
Or even "...through the 18th of August."
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Mary in particular?
Do any of you know
Do any of you two know
Do either of you know ( don't omit the "of you")
They all sound OK to me, last two being more specific.
This read a bit queer to me:
"if in a date such as the following"
"if with a date such as the following" is more understandable to me,
but then again, you should know by now to take what I say with a pinch
of salt :)

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Or a combination of both:
"if within a date such as the following" that sounds good to me also.

 Mary
Pero', la gente avrebbe capito il significato vero lo stesso (credo).