Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: costa il doppio

salve,
    come posso dire: "quella maglietta costa il doppio/la metą" ? e poi: 
"quella maglietta costa dieci volte tanto" ??
grazie

"quella maglietta costa dieci volte tanto" ??
 "ten times as much"?
saluti,
Peltio
on the fly

  "ten times as much"?
anche "ten times more" mi sa.

 direi "half the price"
Non sono due concetti diversi? _Forse_ "half as much" significa che la
maglietta B costa la metà della maglietta A; "half the price" significa che
la maglietta B costa la metà del prezzo non scontato della stessa maglietta
B. Sbaglio? È solo un'impressione non documentata.
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Ciao, FB
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Domanda: "Era il figlio di Iside e Osiride".
Risposta: "Thor".
(quiz televisivo)

 però con half mi suona male (non sono madrelingua inglese)
sarebbe interessante questo da sapere.
"Half as much again" si puo' dire ma significa che voglio il 50 per cento
in piu' dell'ammontare/quantita' esistente (US also: half again as much)
half as much da solo si puo' usare e  ha senso di "meta'" ?

 half as much da solo si puo' usare e  ha senso di "meta'" ?
Penso di si.
Vediamo se riesco a fare esempi giusti.
Come fai a far pagare la meta' dei tuoi concorrenti per lo stesso prodotto ?
----> How can you charge half as much as your competitors for the same
item ?
Come fai fa far pagare la meta' in piu' rispetto ai tuoi concorrenti per
lo stesso prodotto ?
----> How can you charge half as much more than your competitors for the
same item ?

 Penso di si.
Certainly. "Half as much", "twice as much", "not quite so much" etc.
By the way, I know you still use "thrice" in adjectives such as
"thrice-weekly". Do you also say "thrice as much"?
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Ciao, FB
-- 
"I saw something nasty in the woodshed!"
(Cold Comfort Farm, the film)

 same item ?
I think the English sentence, at least, is a contradiction in terms.
Bye, FB
-- 
"It sounds appalling!"
"Interesting and appalling. The others just sound appalling!"
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You can bet it. You find web hosting-services gloating about their
offer of thrice as much storage at half as much cost.
mmmm ....

 "thrice-weekly". Do you also say "thrice as much"?
"Thrice" is very rare indeed in the UK.
I don't think I've ever used the word.
-- 
Mary

 same item ?
No, si dice "half as much again as...".
-- 
Mary

 B. Sbaglio? È solo un'impressione non documentata.
Il significato è identico.
"Price" significa prezzo; non c'entrano gli sconti.
-- 
Mary


Nel secondo caso sarebbe "half price".
Chris 

 I don't think I've ever used the word.
I occasionally use it, but always with a twinkle in my
eye. It's quite hard to use it entirely seriously, as
with "widdershins", "thither", "whither".
cf "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum":
"He raped Thrace. Then he did it again. Then he did it again."
"He raped Thrace thrice?"

"thrice" mi fa un po' finto medievale, tipo "Brancaleone" ...
"have at ye, thrice-cursed villain! Thou shalt get thine retribution
from ye olde sword of mine!"
Forse si puo' sentir dire ad una convention di giochi di ruolo dal
vivo, o da uno dei personaggi di "dork tower"
(
http://www.dorktower.com
)
PF

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I know for sure somebody in the US uses it in adjective such as the one I
mentioned. I'll ask a.u.e., so as to know whether also "thrice as much" is
used in the US. I doubt it, but you never know (well, I don't, at least).
Bye, FB
-- 
"Something to take to the country." (holding out a bunch of flowers)
"Flowers come _from_ the country, Charles."
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 No, si dice "half as much again as...".
Grazie Mary. Ma e' proprio errato o e' semplicemente facoltativo usare uno
o l'altro ? Avevo citato la regola ma la pensavo alternativa.
Anche perche' andando a vedere su google non solo e' molto piu' comune il
"more", ma appare persino in un libro inglese del progetto Gutemberg:
"In five minutes they had bought two of them, and paid just half as much
more than he had asked for them the first time"
( George MacDonald, Annals of a Quiet Neighbourhood )

 I know for sure somebody in the US uses it 
Con 1.340.000 ricorrenze in google decreto l'usabilita' di thrice ! :)

 ( George MacDonald, Annals of a Quiet Neighbourhood )
Boh - forse si usa negli USA; non so chi č sto McDonald.
-- 
Mary

 Con 1.340.000 ricorrenze in google decreto l'usabilita' di thrice ! :)
E' il nome di un gruppo...
-- 
Mary

 hit, mentre "half as much more than" da solo un centinaio.
hai ragione, devo aver cercato mettendoci dentro un typo, cosi' che ho
avuto i risultati sbagliati.
MacDonald avra' usato la licenza poetica :)
grazie
ciao

 E' il nome di un gruppo...
Io non ascolto musica, non li conosco. E magari nel gruppo sono
in tre ! :)

 GB.
Fatemi capire:
 "In five minutes they had bought two of them, and paid just 
*half as much again* than he had asked for them the first time"
significa che ha pagato una volta e mezzo l'importo iniziale?
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Ciao, FB
-- 
Locked from the inside. That can only mean one thing, and I don't know what
it is.
(Murder by Death)

 significa che ha pagato una volta e mezzo l'importo iniziale?
Sì.
Ma si dice "half as much again *as*...
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Mary

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George MacDonald was a Scottish writer of the Victorian period (C.S.Lewis 
had a high regard for him) ; I imagine no-one reads him nowadays , except 
out of academic curiosity , and that won't sustain them thro' more than a 
few pages of his many novels ; though perhaps the strongly Christian 
elements of his writing mean he still has an audience in the USA ?
Maybe that usage is Scottish (or Victorian) , but current usage in the UK 
is as Mary has said .
Mike 

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Twice is nice, but thrice is nicer.
(My wife uses this phrase all the time.  ;>)
Joe from Massachusetts

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His writings rank right up there with those of Ian Paisley here in the
USA.  :>)
Joe from Massachusetts

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Just kidding. It is indeed archaic here in the US.
Joe from Massachusetts

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There are 297,000 occurences of the word "nonce" in Google, but I
doubt if I have used that word more than thrice in my lifetime. :>)
Joe from Massachusetts


I think that "ten times as much" is more accurate.
"Ten times more" suggests that it actually costs eleven times as much
as the original.
Nevertheless, both phrases are commonly used interchangeably
Joe from Massachusetts

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In the US, "half as much again" is rarely if ever used.
We would be more likely to say:
"How can you charge (50% more than) (one-and-a half times as much as)
your competitors"?
Joe from Massachusetts

 doubt if I have used that word more than thrice in my lifetime. :>)
It has a modern meaning that you may be unaware of...
-- 
Mary

It has a modern meaning that you may be unaware of...
And Neverland in on sale now.
Times are really a-changing.
cheers,
Peltio