Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: ring me up?

Ok, so I can say:
- I'll call you
- I'll give you a call
- I'll give you a ring  (UK)
But I remember my English teacher mentioning "I'll ring you up".  Is 
that used at all? I know it's not used here, and I also asked a girl 
from London, and she doesn't say it either.
:-/
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

 But I remember my English teacher mentioning "I'll ring you up".
"I'll ring it up" is something a shop assistant might say. "I'll ring
you up"
sounds odd to me. "I'll ring you" is fine. For all I know "I'll ring
you up" is something people said many decades ago, or say now in some
region I'm not familiar with.

 region I'm not familiar with.
All right, thank you Adam. I know for sure that here they don't use 
"ring" in that sense, but I was hoping the phrasal verb I remembered was 
correct or, at least, still in use.
:-)
Ciao,
EiP.

 London, and she doesn't say it either.
I have heard the expression "I'll ring you up" said by British people in 
the US who left England in the 1960's and 1970's. It may very well not 
be said anymore, as Adam reports, but it was an expression that did 
exist at one time.

 exist at one time.
Ah ok. It's always nice to realise how outdated the English that they 
teach us is.
:-D
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

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"Give me a ring" is sometimes used, but "Ring me up" is obsolescent, and 
would sound a little strange to me.
OT: I guess you will be all done at UI soon, unless you are enrolling in a 
summer course? How did your experiment with "La meglio giovent�" go?
Do you think your English has improved as a result of your time in the US?
I would like to recount a little story:
When I arrived in Vicenza, I didn't speak a word of Italian, but immediately 
started studying grammar and hanging out with Italian soldiers who spoke a 
little English. Everywhere I went I carried my Collins "dizionarietto", and 
I was soon known to every bartender in town. After about six months, I could 
converse fairly well in Italian, so that I spoke almost exclusively in 
Italian with my Italian friends, except when they wanted to practice their 
English. On Saturday afternoons, there was a group of young Italians who 
sought out Americans in the bars in the center of town, because they wanted 
to practice their English. I got to know many young Italians who were 
studying English, and we would often sit down in local caff�s and converse 
in English, and I would try to advise them on their grammar and accents. One 
of these young guys used to come in every Saturday from Cittadella, a town 
about 15 miles away in the neighboring province of Padova. He usually 
brought along a friend of his, who was rather well-to-do. His expensive 
overcoat, suit, tie, shoes, and watch probably cost more than a 
"Cinquecento". We often went to a particular bar on the Corso Palladio, 
where the "padrona", a tiny woman, could always be seen sitting behind the 
cash register, greeting the customers as they entered. She was preoccupied 
with social status, and judged people by the company they kept. She and knew 
the social standing of all of the regular customers, and greeted them all 
with a title, as much as she could: "Buon giorno, professore (commendatore, 
cavaliere, avvocato, maestra, ragionere, ecc.)".
After visiting that caff� 4 or 5 times with my two friends from Cittadella, 
I guess the woman could see that we were seriously discussing the English 
language, and she drew her own conclusions. One Saturday afternoon as we 
entered the caff�, she greeted me with "Buon giorno, professore".
After that fateful Saturday afternoon, every time I entered that caff�, 
whether alone or with friends, I would hear that "Buon giorno, professore" 
from the "padrona", and I would reply "Buon giorno, signora". To me it was a 
source of amusement, but at the same time a compliment, in that I had been 
raised to a high social standing by the "padrona". My American friends would 
try to hide their amusement when they heard that greeting.
Everywhere else in town I was just plain "Joe", who was studying Italian, 
but in that bar I was someone else, a "professore". Whenever my ego needed a 
lift, I would go to that bar, to hear the "padrona" greet me with "Buon 
giorno, professore".
Joe from Massachusetts

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Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

 giorno, professore".
:-DDD
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

 accent, but well, that'll be a new challenge for her.
I hope she's not going to Perugia!
Joe from Massachusetts 

 Joe from Massachusetts 
I can take her to Umbria Jazz if she's interested, but that's very 
unlikely.  Well, I am going anyway!
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Jazz? I thought you were strictly a "liscia" man. :>)
I'm a big fan of Jazz, which is not as popular as it once was here. It may 
be more popular in Europe than in the US. As an example, one of my favorite 
albums is Jimmy Giuffre's "Ad Lib", which is only available on CD from 
Europe.
I think Jazz belongs in small venures.
When I was in the Army, on Sunday we would go to the Service Club, where 
they had instruments available for anyone who wanted to play. Guys who had 
never met would sit in and jam with each other, all improvised. That is 
where I learned to appreciate Jazz.
Joe from Massachusetts 

 I think Jazz belongs in small venures.
                                                 venues
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 appreciate Jazz.
"Blues is easy to play, but hard to feel."
                -- Jimi Hendrix
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America has been discovered before, but it has always been
hushed up.
    -- Oscar Wilde

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Many blues mp3s here.
http://superfan2009.com/category/blues-music/
More blues mp3s.
http://www.publicdomain4u.com/
Joe from Massachusetts

. Their names are
a strong guarantee of technical skill, ability, etc.

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Like a lot of things, either you like it or you don't.
When I was in the Army, and would play my Jazz recordings in the barracks,
there were a lot of people who complained.
As for Elio e le Storie Tese and Jazz, it is ironic that Paolo Panigada was 
stricken while playing with his Jazz group.
Like Frank Zappa, who, although he won awards for Jazz composition, is more 
known as a social satirist, Elio e le Storie Tese have a unique position in 
popular culture.
Nothing was sacred to Zappa.
Jimi Hendrix's iconic "Hey Joe", the story of a man bent on murder, was an 
international success after Woodstock.
"Hey, Joe, where you goin' with that gun in your hand?"....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MFE6qQfdlE&feature=related
Zappa responded with his recording "Flower Punk", a put-on of Hendrix's hit 
song and also simultaneously a put-on of the "Flower Children", using the 
very same music that Hendrix used - and as if that weren't enough, the album 
cover was a put-on of the Beatles' "Sergeant Pepper" album cover.
"Hey, punk, where you goin' with that flower in your hair?"...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOPSRqdBtVs
Joe from Massachusetts

F. Gr., 12:00, domenica 16 maggio 2010:
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C'è chi dice che oggi il miglior jazz è europeo.
Ci sono jazzisti italiani molto rinomati.
Ma io non sono esperto.
-- 
"Le monde appartient à ceux, dont les ouvriers se lèvent tôt."
                -- Anonyme 

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOPSRqdBtVs
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those
who do. And for the people who like country music, 'denigrate'
means 'put down'."
                -- Bob Newhart
-- 
I could never learn to like her -- except on a raft at sea with
no other provisions in sight.
    -- Mark Twain


All kinds. Miles Davis, Ahmad Jamal, Oscar Peterson, MJQ, West Coast 
musicians like Barney Kessel, Ray Brown, Shelley Manne, traditional New 
Orleans, and unique artists like Charles Mingus and Jimmy Giuffre.
There was a radio and TV personality, Jean Shepherd, who collaborated with 
Charlie Mingus on his album, "The Clown". He
narrated the piece called "The Clown", a unique experiment.
You can dowload the entire album here, if you hurry.
http://www.filestube.com/186ebc8d24efe26603ea,g/Charles-Mingus-The-Clown.html
Shepherd also wrote and appeared in the film, "A Christmas Story", which has 
become a Christmas tradition in the US.
Mingus always complained that no matter how good a Jazz musician was, he 
couldn't make a decent living. He is the only bass player I know of who 
struck out on his own. He was also a social commentator through his music, 
as the title of his album "Fables of Faubus" suggests. His wife continues to 
promote his legacy.
http://www.mingusmingusmingus.com/SueMingus/
Joe from Massachusetts