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Titolo: tutto un altro paio di...

Come si rende in inglese "è tutto un altro paio di maniche"?
Temo che non si dica "that's all another couple of sleeves", vero? :-D
Reverso consiglia "another kettle of fish", secondo voi?
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 "another kettle of fish", secondo voi?
 
Sarebbe "pentola di pesce", giusto?
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 Sarebbe "pentola di pesce", giusto?
 
Se ben capisco, "another kettle of fish" / "a different kettle of fish" 
sta per "un altro paio di maniche", ma "kettle of fish" nelle 
espressioni "a fine kettle of fish", "a pretty kettle of fish", indica 
"a mess", cioè in italiano informale "un casino".
Quanto all'origine, vedi cosa dicono Phrases.org e Etymonline.com dice:
 
The two phrases are often confused but have different origins and 
different meanings. Which is another way of saying that they are 
different phrases.
[...]
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/kettle-of-fish.html
 
 
 
'A different kettle of fish', and I have to say it, is a different 
kettle of fish from 'a pretty kettle of fish'. The 'different' variant 
is much later than the original 'pretty' form, from which it clearly 
derives, despite the two phrases have very different meanings.
 
The expression dates from the late 19th century and was found most 
commonly in Scotland and the north of England (where fish kettles were 
and still are quite commonplace).
 
This early citation comes from a report in the English newspaper the 
Morning Advertiser, June 1847:
 
    In plain English, a master is responsible for the acts of his 
servants, and he must either be sent to the right-about by the railway 
authorities hereafter, or boil a very different kettle of fish.
 
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/a-different-kettle-of-fish.html
 
 
 
 
/Kettle of fish/
 "complicated and bungled affair" (1715), sometimes is said to be from 
a Scottish custom of a kettle full of fish cooked al fresco at a 
boating party or picnic, but this custom is not attested by that phrase 
until 1790. Perhaps it is rather a variant of kittle/kiddle "weir or 
fence with nets set in rivers or along seacoasts for catching fish" (c. 
1200, in the Magna Charta as Anglo-Latin kidellus), from Old French 
quidel, probably from Breton kidel "a net at the mouth of a stream." 
Kettle was used in geology for "deep circular hollow in a river bed or 
other eroded area, pothole" (1866), hence kettle moraine (1883), 
characterized by such features.
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=kettle+of+fish
 
 
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 Reverso consiglia "another kettle of fish", secondo voi?
 
esiste anche "horse of a different color"
 
From Webster:
 
Definition of a horse of a different color
 
chiefly US, informal
: a very different thing or issue.
 
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 esiste anche "horse of a different color"
 
I remember I once used it during a conversation (on chat) with an 
American native speaker and he didn't know what it meant.
 
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Kiuhnm
 
- Alzeresti un po' il climatizzatore?
- Nel senso di alzare la temperatura o la potenza?
- Nel senso che ci sbatto sempre la testa.
 

 native speaker and he didn't know what it meant.
 
Si vede che non ha visto il film...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAPKnHcGDM
 
 
...né il telefilm!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp8qTm3H9go
 
 
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