Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: full ship ?

Come si traduce questa frase?
 
" Please advise with your full ship to address if you wish for me to quote 
you
 the cost of shipping via UPS International."
 
Grazie
 
 

 me to quote youthe cost of shipping via UPS International."
 
 
Un esempio di ambiguità.
 
Metto un paio di trattini:
" Please advise with your full ship-to-address if you wish for
me to quote youthe cost of shipping via UPS International."
 
Adesso si vede meglio?
 
 
-- 
"If my film makes one more person miserable, I'll feel I've done
my job."
                -- Woody Allen
 

 
 
Technically the hyphen goes between the elements of the compound adjective 
but not the noun. In other words, it should be
 
"...your full ship-to address..."
 
And in case that doesn't clear it up, it means the address you are shipping 
to (to which you are shipping.)
 
Just for the record.
 
-- 
Joey from New York
 

 Adesso si vede meglio?
 
Mah, insomma... il concetto lo intuisco (se gli dico l'indirizzo completo mi 
fa un preventivo preciso) ma mi sembra un inglese involuto
 
 
 
 
 

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specifica solo (in modo alquanto anale) che � l'indirizzo di spedizione 
e non altri indirizzi tipo fatturazione o chiss� cosa.
 
Dal contesto � stra-ovvio che s'intende quello, ma sai com'�, deve 
averne viste tali e tante che � diventato paranoico :)
 
ciao
S
 

 Just for the record.
 
 
I thought the opposite: the address of Giacobino as receiver of
something shipped to him.
 
 
-- 
I must have a prodigious quantity of mind; it takes me as much
as a week sometimes to make it up.
    -- Mark Twain, "The Innocents Abroad"
 

 un inglese involuto
 
 
Concordo.
 
Ma spedisci o ricevi?
 
 
-- 
Outside a Hong Kong tailor shop:
"Ladies may have a fit upstairs."
 

 something shipped to him.
 
I don't think that you two are disagreeing. Joe just presented the 
information from a general perspective and you structured your response 
in regard to this specific example from the perspective of the receiver.
 
The point is that the original text was poorly written and that's why 
Giacobino had doubts about the meaning. "Ship-to" is correct. Most 
business letters would use "shipping address," or "shipping 
information." Even shipping address can be interpreted as the address 
from which one ships if it appears devoid of contextual clues. But, the 
"your" should be enough to alert the reader of the intent.
 

 something shipped to him.
 
That is entirely possible and not inconsistent with my comment. My point had 
to do with the hyphenation. I might better have said "it means the address 
being shipped to," but I used the generic "you," essentially the same as 
"one."
 
For me, the context of the original statement placed it in the realm of 
someone who was shipping something, rather than someone who is receiving 
something, but of course it could be either.
 
-- 
Joey from New York
Among those whom I like or admire, I can find no common denominator,
but among those whom I love, I can: all of them make me laugh.
   -- WH Auden
 

 Ma spedisci o ricevi?
 
Ricevo. Anzi non ricevo piu', perche' la spedizione alla fine ha dei prezzi 
folli (motore da 10 chili,  prezzo 109, spedizione 120, + IVA 21% e 4% di 
dazio)
 
"Advise with" non significa "consigliarsi / consultarsi con" ? Mi consulto 
col mio indirizzo di ricezione? E che gli dico, ehi indirizzo, stai attento 
se arriva un pacco?
 
"if you wish for me to quote [to] you" (se lei desidera che io le faccia un 
preventivo), da dove arriva il for,  wish non regge l'accusativo? you wish 
me to do something?
 
insomma non capisco se sono io che non lo capisco o se e' lui che non lo 
parlare.
 
 
 

 che non lo parlare.
 
 
Di dove sono?
 
 
-- 
By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity. Another
man's, I mean.
    -- Mark Twain
 

 parlare.
 
Possibly a little of both. Not every native speaker knows good grammar or 
syntax. Sometimes, especially in business it seems, people who are unsure of 
themselves overcompensate and use terms that are meant to sound erudite, but 
that end up sounding odd instead.
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