Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: sentire gli odori

Come si esprime il concetto di sentire gli odori?
If I'd say:
"quando aprirai questa lettera, tu mi sentirai lě" (questo sottointende che 
sentirai il mio odore lě)
I've thought
"when you'll open this letter up, you'll smell me in there".
I don't know if smell fit in with this kind on sentence.
I'm looking forward to read your remarks
Francesco

 sentirai il mio odore lě)
You're creepy.
-- 
Don't f*ck with me bitch, I'm the mightiest sorcerer of the lands.


Io pongo domande alle quali può rispondere chiunque abbia più esperienza di 
me..
mentre mi vedo risposte del tipo
"you're creepy".
Vai a capire perchè!!!
Spero gli altri abbiano risposte più attinenti alla mia domanda.

 I'm looking forward to read your remarks
"... to reading ..." (non "read"). 
Max

 "... to reading ..." (non "read").
Hai ragione sul reading.
Quello che ho scritto è solo un esempio; mi interessa sapere solamente come 
si scrive "sentire l'odore"

 mi interessa sapere solamente come si scrive "sentire l'odore"
Comprare un dizionario italiano/inglese o impare a consultarne uno 
online pare brutto?
http://oxfordparavia.it/
http://www.garzantilinguistica.it/
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Ho già scritto "smell" ma non so se esso va bene perchè non ho mai 
utilizzato prima questo verbo
it smells
it noses

 online pare brutto?
Come mai wordreference tira fuori cio':
sentire l'odore	v nose (to smell)
Va bene che gli odori sento con il naso, pero'.
Quanto a "sentire l'odore", "feel smell"?
"I love the smell of napalm in the morning." :P
-- 
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Sheppard : What if he kills you first?
Ronon Dex: Then you kill him.


Ok.
Quindi ritornando alla frase che ho scritto prima:
"when you'll open this letter up, you'll feel smell me around you".
Spero che sia corretta

 Spero che sia corretta
Due errori:
- nella frase subordinata del periodo ipotetico (pròtasi) non si usa il 
futuro come in italiano, bensì il presente: "when you open this 
letter..."
- nella tua frase principale del periodo ipotetico (apòdosi), "you'll 
feel smell me around you" non va bene. Forse volevi dire "you'll feel 
my smell..."?
-- 
Tchau, -João do Sabão


Perfetto
"When you open this letter up, you'll feel my smell aound you"
Ok; quindi feel smell significa sentire l'odore..avevo capito male
Grazie Joao
Francesco 

 smell..."?
Domanda: Fosse stata "you'll feel smell of me around you"?
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 Domanda: Fosse stata "you'll feel smell of me around you"?
Può andare, a patto di inserire un articolo "the". Ma sentiamo il 
parere di qualcun altro.
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 di qualcun altro.
"Feel the smell" io non l'ho mai sentito, mi sembra solamente una 
traduzione letterale, ed errata, dall'italiano.
Forse, ma forse potrebbe essere usato in maniera figurata, ma continua a 
sembrarmi molto poco idiomatico.
Perché andare a complicarsi la vita quando c'è un crisbio di verbo (anzi 
due, "to nose" non lo conoscevo usato in quel senso) che fa quel che serve?
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 due, "to nose" non lo conoscevo usato in quel senso) che fa quel che serve?
Ma dici sniff? (Visto che parli di nose)
Bah, a me non pare che esprima lo stesso concetto.
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 Ma dici sniff? (Visto che parli di nose)
whiff?
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 Tchau, -João do Sabão
anche a me era venuta in mente, poi ho provato su google
"you'll feel the smell"   = 27 risultati
e "you'll feel the smell of me" zero corrispondenze ;
anche mettendo "you will"
ho provato inoltre
"can you feel the smell"  4770 corrispondenze
"can you smell"  1.410.000 risultati
direi che "feel the smell" è sbagliato
masgar
masgar

 direi che "feel the smell" č sbagliato
Probabile. Ma ha davvero senso cercarlo con google? Non e' certo una 
cosa che ha molto senso di essere dette su Internet.
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 Domanda: Fosse stata "you'll feel smell of me around you"?
non potrebbe andare "you'll feel my scent"?
Ciao, Antņ.

 Ma dici sniff? (Visto che parli di nose)
"To smell".
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 I don't know if smell fit in with this kind on sentence.
In inglese, i sostantivi 'smell' e 'odor' hanno le connotazioni negative. Si 
puň scrivere "When you open up this letter, you'll sense my essence within 
it." La parola 'essence' puň significa 'odore' ma anche sostanza, allora 
l'uso č abbastanza ambiguo. Per essere literale, si puň scrivere "When you 
open up this letter, you'll detect my scent" o "...you'll sense my scent." 
(L'ho scritto veramente? Adesso, mi sento cosě sporco.) 

 Francesco
When you open this letter, you will smell my scent.
E' l'unica traduzione che mi viene in mente.  Just out of
curiosity....how far is that letter traveling?
A.


Surely not..I'm so rude:-)
I'd prefer to rub it on my foot!!

curiosity....how far is that letter traveling?
Quindi è "smell" che corrisponde a "sentire" riferito all'odore.
My letter is gonna to travel about 6000 kms
p.s: you shouldn't have write "travelling" or traveling works fine too?
(ho scritto bene "non avresti dovuto scrivere"?)

 (ho scritto bene "non avresti dovuto scrivere"?)
You should have written (written = scritto)
In the US we use "traveling".  I think "travelling" is British
English.
A.

 "when you'll open this letter up, you'll smell me in there".
Well, why don't you take a shower before writing that letter?

 (ho scritto bene "non avresti dovuto scrivere"?)
I would discourage you from using "gonna".  That is very colloquial
and you hardly see it in writing.
If you really want to use it, remember that it stands for "going to"
so don't repeat "to" after "gonna".
A.

so don't repeat "to" after "gonna".
Men!
you are right...
My letter is gonna travel about 6000 kms

You should have written (written = scritto)
Tu hai scritto però:
"tu dovresti aver scritto"
io vorrei esprimere invece il concetto
"tu non avresti dovuto scrivere"
penso che tale frase può essere espressa anche in lingua inglese

 Well, why don't you take a shower before writing that letter?
but I don't mean smell my scent because my essence isn't good:-) 


I didn't know that...
I could have impregnate this woman by my scent:-)
(si scrive cosě avrei potuto)

 Io pongo 
Am I the only to find this funny, given the context :-)
Antonio


Oh my goodness! (to remain in this topic)
Your sentece it's very appropriate in this context
I'm laughing:-)) 

 Men!
How many?
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 How many?
Ho scritto men perchè ho letto che in inglese significa cavolo! 

 penso che tale frase può essere espressa anche in lingua inglese
ok...I didn't read it carefully.  Just put a negative on it:
shouldn't instead of should.
a.

 Ho scritto men perchè ho letto che in inglese significa cavolo!
Ma scriveresti "cavoli!"? Si scrive "Man!" Scrivere "Men!" vuol dire che il 
genere maschile ti hanno fatto esasperato. 

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Wonderful !
(I didn't notice till you called attention to it !)
Mike 

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'crisbio' ?  Non sono solo a non conoscere questa parola - è sconosciuta 
anche dal garzanti e dal oxford paravia ; cosa vuol dire ?
Per quanto riguarda il problema proposto da Francesco , non è mica tanto 
facile risolverlo - .E vero che 'nose' non si usi in quel senso e che 'feel 
the smell' non si dica mai ; e , come l'ha spiegato Tony the Ice Man , 
'smell' rischia di provocare una reazione non voluta ; e 'scent' significa 
spesso 'profumo' (quel che si compra in boccetta) .
Se fossi in te , Francesco , rinunzierei a l'idea .
Mike

 anche dal garzanti e dal oxford paravia ; cosa vuol dire ?
Perche' non esiste. :)
E' una storpiatura di *cribbio*. Usata, immagino, perche' *cribbio* fa 
un po' ridere e *cazzo* e' volgare.
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 E' una storpiatura di *cribbio*.
Adesso che ci penso potrebbe anche averla coniata come unione di 
*cristo* e *cribbio*, perche' dire *cristo* e' considerato volgare al 
pari di dire *cazzo*.
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 pari di dire *cazzo*.
La usava Gene Gnocchi anni e anni fa in tv.
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Non capisco i vostri risolini:-)
Nel dizionario italiano alla voce "porre una domanda"->"rivolgerla".
I don't understand where you see it so funny!! 

shouldn't instead of should.
Dovrebbe essere quindi
Tu non avresti dovuto scrivere-> you shouldn't have written
Attendo conferma


Man!
perhaps I remember badly
Thanks a lot Tony
Francesco 

 Se fossi in te , Francesco , rinunzierei a l'idea .
Ho aperto questo thread proprio perchè mi è capitato di sentire
io sento (dal punto di vista dei sentimenti) -> I feel
io sento (dal punto di vista della vista) -> I see
io sento (dal punto di vista dell'udito) -> I hear
ma mi mancava ancora io sento dal punto di vista dell'olfatto 

 Ma scriveresti "cavoli!"?
Actually... yes. We can say "cavoli" as well (while you can't say "men", 
of course).
-- 
Laz

 io sento (dal punto di vista della vista) -> I see
Not in Italian.
Kiuhnm

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Cerca "pong" nel dizionario inglese-italiano ...
Antonio

 Cerca "pong" nel dizionario inglese-italiano ...
I thought you meant "Io pongo" = "Io sono di pongo".
It stinks too!
Kiuhnm


Ah....I understand now!!:-) 

 It stinks too!
But I'm a clean person in fact I have a shower at least once a month:-)
So I should stink:-)
and I usually make pongs:-)
Ho utilizzato entrambi i vocaboli

 -- 
Thanks .
Mike 


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Ok . You suggested that 'sentire l'odore' could be translated as 'smell' - 
you were right .
Then you used it in an example , and said 'I don't know if 'smell' fits in 
with this kind of sentence' . Well , no , it doesn't , and that's what most 
of the replies have focussed on . The fact is that , despite the huge 
richness of English vocabulary , this is an area in which the English 
themselves are sometimes conscious of difficulty in finding the right 
expression .
Mike 

 
Mmmh! If anybody can smell it  after a 6000 kilometers trip, it can't be 
good! BO is not something you usually talk about or send by letter. Your 
obstinate fixation makes me seriously think that you are creepy, as 
someone already suggested.
I am not sure what you are after (and don't really care) but I doubt 
that Casanova himself would bring up that topic to lure one of his preys.
Poi fa' un po' come ti pare...

 ma mi mancava ancora io sento dal punto di vista dell'olfatto 
  Prova a cercare invece  "odorare" o "annusare" su un vocabolario 
italiano-inglese.


Quindi mi stai dicendo che si usa "smell" ad indicare "sentire l'odore" però 
non si adatta alla frase che ho scritto.
Grazie 


Alla voce odorare il vocabolario mi dice "feel (examine by smell)" mentre ad 
annusare mi dice "whiff, sniff, scent"


E se avessi scritto tale frase in modo figurato oppure se avessi spruzzato 
del mio profumo all'interno della lettera!!
Poi, ripeto, la frase era solo un esempio in quanto mi interessava capire 
come si dice "sentire l'odore di qualcosa/qualcuno" 

 annusare mi dice "whiff, sniff, scent"
Compra un vocabolario nuovo e brucia immediatamente quello che hai ora.
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 come si dice "sentire l'odore di qualcosa/qualcuno" 
Have you ever heard of Sigmund Freud?
Kiuhnm


dovrei bruciare un sito allora
http://wordreference.com/
 

 Have you ever heard of Sigmund Freud?
yes, I have heard about it but I know only his name. I don't know what he 
said about his theory

 
http://wordreference.com/
 
E infatti, come sospettavo, dovresti bruciare te stesso.
http://www.wordreference.com/iten/odorare
odorare		v	feel (examine by smell)
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Se tu avessi letto bene il mio post avresti letto:
'Alla voce odorare il vocabolario mi dice "feel (examine by smell)" mentre 
ad
annusare mi dice "whiff, sniff, scent"'
Cosa ho scritto, anzi cosa avevo scritto??
Avoid to answer me and I'll be jolly, please!
Grazie
Francesco

 Avoid to answer me and I'll be jolly, please!
E perdermi l'occasione di farmi due risate? Giammai.
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Okey. Then I'll be myselft to not answer you any longer.
Good bye 

 
Really? Why didn't you say so in the first place? Any two-bit dictionary 
can explain that.
Ecco uno stralcio, nasa pure.
--- Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English --->
smell
W3S2   n
   1 [C] the quality that people and animals recognize by using their 
nose:  smell of//  --The air was filled with the smell of flowers.// 
sweet/delicious smell //  --There's a delicious smell coming from the 
kitchen.//  unpleasant/bad/acrid smell //  --the acrid smell of smoke// 
  strong/pungent smell //  --a pungent smell of garlic//
   2 [C] an unpleasant smell:  --I think the smell's getting worse.//
   3 [U] the ability to notice or recognize smells:  --loss of taste and 
smell//  --Dogs have a very good sense of smell .//
   4 [C usually singular] an act of smelling something:  -- Have a smell 
of this cheese; does it seem all right?//  ----------//  WORD FOCUS: 
smell //  good smell: aroma,  perfume,  fragrance,  scent //  bad smell: 
stink,  stench,  odour (BrE) odor (AmE),  whiff,  pong (BrE) // 
----------//
smell 2 W3S2 v   past tense and past participle  smelled  especially AmE 
  or  smelt /smelt/ BrE //  ----------//
    1 notice a smell:
    2 have a smell:
    3 have a bad smell:
    4 put your nose near something:
    5 have ability:
    6 smell trouble/danger etc:
    7 smell a rat:
    8 smell wrong/fishy/odd etc:  Phrasal verbs//   smell 
somebody/something → out//  ----------//
   1 NOTICE A SMELL:   [T not in progressive] to notice or recognize a 
particular smell//  --I can smell burning.//  --Can you smell something?//
   2 HAVE A SMELL:   [linking verb] to have a particular smell//  smell 
adj//  --The stew  smelled delicious .//  --Mm! Something  smells good 
!//  smell like//  --It smells like rotten eggs.//  smell of//   BrE // 
  --My clothes smelt of smoke.//  sweet-smelling/foul-smelling etc // 
--sweet-smelling flowers//
   3 HAVE A BAD SMELL:   [I not in progressive] to have an unpleasant 
smell//  --Your feet smell!//  --The room  smelled to high heaven  (=had 
a very bad smell) .//
   4 PUT YOUR NOSE NEAR SOMETHING:   [T] to put your nose near something 
in order to discover what kind of smell it has//   sniff//  --She bent 
down and smelt the flowers.//
   5 HAVE ABILITY:   [I] to have the ability to notice and recognize 
smells//  --I've got a cold and I can't smell.//
   6  smell trouble/danger etc:  to feel that something is going to 
happen, especially something bad//  --Miller had smelled trouble the 
moment she said who she was.//
   7  smell a rat:   informal to guess that something wrong or dishonest 
is happening//
   8  smell wrong/fishy/odd etc:   informal to seem dishonest or 
untrue//  --The whole thing is beginning to smell fishy to me.//    come 
up/out smelling of roses at rose1 (6)//  smell out [smell sb/sth → out] 
phr v//
   1 to find something by smelling:   sniff out//  --They use dogs 
trained to smell out explosives.//
   2  informal to find or recognize something because you have a natural 
ability to do this:   sniff out//  --They'll be able to smell out any 
corruption.//  ----------//  GRAMMAR //  You can say that something 
smells  good, bad, strange etc. //  !!  Use an adjective, never an 
adverb : You smell wonderful (NOT wonderfully) - what perfume is that? 
//  In British English, you can use  smell  with  of to say what 
something smells like : Her jacket smelled of smoke (NOT smelled smoke). 
//  If you say that something or someone  smells , you mean they have a 
bad smell : Your socks smell. //  If you  can smell  something or you 
smell something, you notice its smell : I can smell coffee. |  We 
smelled smoke. //  !!  You do not say 'feel a smell'. //  ----------//
<--- English Thesaurus --->
smell
[N] (Odor):  odor, smell, scent, aroma, effluvium, emanation, 
exhalation, fume, essence, redolence, fragrance.
[V] (Odor):  have an odor, smell, smell of, exhale, reek, scent, smell, 
scent
[N] (Odor):  odor, smell, scent, aroma, effluvium, emanation, 
exhalation, fume, essence, redolence, fragrance.
[V] (Odor):  have an odor, smell, smell of, exhale, reek, scent, smell, 
scent.
[ADJ] (Odor):  odorous, aromatic, fragrant, smelling, reeking, 
foul-smelling, strong-scented, redolent, pungent, putrid, foul.
[N] (Odor):  odor, smell, scent, aroma, effluvium, emanation, 
exhalation, fume, essence, redolence, fragrance.
[V] (Odor):  have an odor, smell, smell of, exhale, reek, scent, smell, 
scent.
[ADJ] (Odor):  odorous, aromatic, fragrant, smelling, reeking, 
foul-smelling, strong-scented, redolent, pungent, putrid, foul.
[N] (Stench): , bad smell, odor, stench, stink, foul odor
[V] (Stench):  smell, stink, reek.
[ADJ] (Stench):  fetid, malodorous, offensive, rank, smelling, stinking, 
putrid, suffocating, mephitic.
<--- WordNet --->
smell
smell
      n 1: the sensation that results when olfactory receptors in the
           nose are stimulated by particular chemicals in gaseous
           form; "she loved the smell of roses" [syn: {odor}, {odour},
            {olfactory sensation}, {olfactory perception}]
      2: any property detected by the olfactory system [syn: {olfactory
         property}, {aroma}, {odor}, {odour}, {scent}]
      3: the general atmosphere of a place or situation and the
         effect that it has on people; "the feel of the city
         excited him"; "a clergyman improved the tone of the
         meeting"; "it had the smell of treason" [syn: {spirit}, {tone},
          {feel}, {feeling}, {flavor}, {flavour}, {look}]
      4: the faculty of smell [syn: {sense of smell}, {olfaction}, 
{olfactory
         modality}]
      5: the act of perceiving the odor of something [syn: {smelling}]
      [also: {smelt}]
smell
      v 1: inhale the odor of; perceive by the olfactory sense
      2: emit an odor; "The soup smells good"
      3: smell bad; "He rarely washes, and he smells"
      [also: {smelt}]

 smell
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 job , and I said I don't think there is a satisfactory answer .
"You'll smell my fragrance", where "smell+fragrance" is even a collocation.
Kiuhnm

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But "ostrega" and "ostregheta" are always singular.  :>)
Joe from Massachusetts

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OMG I haven't heard that since my grandmother passed away!
A.

 So why not lay off the poor lad :)
Why? He is enjoying every moment of it :>)

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Well, I couldn't come up with anything better than "smell".  I know
that it doesn't sound too good, but what else could you use in
conjunction with the word "scent" ?  Detect my scent?   I guess you
could say "My scent will reach your nostrils"  That sounds a little
more poetic.   Is there a  synonym that doesn't have a bad
connotation?
A.

 come si dice "sentire l'odore di qualcosa/qualcuno" 
Yeah, it's very practical. I do that too sometimes, when I meet new 
people. Instead of shaking hands, I smell the other person's "scent" and 
welcome them home.
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
-- 
I chitarristi passano metą della propria vita ad accordare la chitarra e 
l'altra metą a suonarla scordata.

 welcome them home.
Why would you be welcoming home a stranger? Do you squat in vacant homes of
strangers while the occupants are on vacation?
Also, do you find that people turn to prevent you from smelling them, or do
you do it from the front?
In addition, does it annoy you that people wear perfume and cologne to
prevent you from determining if they are friend or foe?
Our sense of smell may not be as acute as that of a dog, but it does give us
essential information about others, and it's better to be aware of it than
to be oblivious to it.