Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: wineries

Ciao enotecnici,
We have the good fortune, here in California, of being able to visit one of many
local wine making regions and spend an afternoon tasting wines. The producers of
wines, called "wineries," vary greatly in size and are often clumped near to
each other . They grow the grapes, they make the wine, they sell the wine to
stores, and they allow visitors to come to their tasting rooms to taste their
products. When I ask what such an establishment would be called in Italy I get
various answers-- for example, "enoteca," "casa vinicola,""produttore," or
"vignaiolo." What would  you say is the most common designation?
Ciao,
Ron
USA

 Ciao enotecnici,
Not for me :-)
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Californian wineries could be designated as "azienda vinicola" or "casa
vinicola". 
Enoteca is just a shop where you can get a lot of different wines (both
"for here" or "to go", sold by the glass or by the bottle to be brought
home).
Vignaiolo is a worker of a vigna (vineyard). Produttore means just
producer and it is not precise enough.
Did you take the wine train (or Napa train, I don't remember its name)?
Ciao
-- 
Franco
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
(L. Wittgenstein)

"vignaiolo." What would  you say is the most common designation?
I think the most common word is "cantina"
"Casa vinicola" is a correct but formal term.
"Enoteca" means a place where wines are tasted and kept.
"Vignaiuolo" is nowadays not more than a biblical word or about ;-)

 "vignaiolo." What would  you say is the most common designation?
"Enoteca" is a place where thay sell wine of various kinds and tastes but
it's something of the "shop" sort. "Casa vinicola" is a formal term for a
wine producer, just as "azienda vinicola" is, which is even more formal.
"Produttore" means "producer" and it must be qualified if you want to refer
to a wine producer.
"Vignaiolo" is definitely a biblical term and it would provoke a snigger of
scorn in every native Italian speaker.
As a further word to enrich your vocabulary, I would suggest "viticoltore"
(vine grower) which stands for a farmer specializing in the production of
wine. Mind it is a formal term too.
Finally, I think that the best word  for what you nave described is
"cantina": primarily the cantina is the wine cellar, but it can also be used
to describe an establishment like that you visited.
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 ." What would  you say is the most common
designation?
"Azienda viti-vinicola" IS the solution. Kisses by your Perversopolimorfo.

 "Vignaiuolo" is nowadays not more than a biblical word or about ;-)
This one actually appeared in a reference book on Italian wines. I should have
checked the printing date and whether it used the revised Julian calendar. ;-)
Ciao,
Ron
USA

 to describe an establishment like that you visited.
Thanks, some others have suggested this as the best term so I guess it's the one
to use.
Ciao,
Ron
USA

 Did you take the wine train (or Napa train, I don't remember its name)?
No, preferisco andare alle piccole cantine lontano da Napa e Sonoma. Grazie per
l'aiuto.
Ciao,
Ron
USA

 to use.
The best term to use is 'azienda viti-vinicola', che tu ci creda o no (uomo
di poca fede).