Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: It's a fugazy!

What does "It's a fugazy!" mean?
I'd say..."E' una patacca!"
But I weren't able to find "fugazy" in 
http://www.edigeo-online.it/cgi-local/Hoepli/GDI

Larry ha scritto:
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I ain't never heard of neither!*
I've never heard of either.
-- 
This is my opinion of modern, colloquial, American English. 
If you feel the need to e-mail me, un-not my address first.

 What does "It's a fugazy!" mean?
It's "fugazi", I think.
FUGAZI	Fouled Up, Got Ambushed, Zipped In (British military slang)
Or, maybe, it's a weird pronunciation. In that case it would be like
looking fuggedaboutit up on a dictionary.
And yes, "patacca" works fine.
Sebastiano

 FUGAZI  Fouled Up, Got Ambushed, Zipped In (British military slang)
Never heard of it - I don't think it's British.
-- 
Mary


 < It was certainly known to the Scottish rock group Marillion .
One of their best records is called  FUGAZI .
http://www.the-company.com/dafug.htm
 

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I have no idea, I just quoted "
www.acronymfider.com
". But I guess you're
right:
Fugazi was an American GI slang during the Vietnam war. "Fugazi" is an
acronym which stands for "Fucked Up, Got Ambushed, Zipped In." It refers to
out-of-control situation such as in a chaotic jungle warfare combat
environment. [wikipedia]
From Donnie Brasco, with Al Pacino:
1- It's a fugazi 
2-A fugazi? 
1-Yeah a fugazi...a fake 
2-I know what a fugazi is 
1-Yeah well you go ahead and sell it if you wanna look like a dumski 
2-Are you tellin' me what I'm gonna do? Sit down there!
And now we know why some people - Donnie Brasko hardcore fans? - use
"fugazi" with that meaning.
"That ain't a Bellini, you fool, it's a fugazi!" is a very
Welcome-To-Collinwood-meets-Donnie-Brasko line.
Sebastiano

 I'd say..."E' una patacca!"
Credo che il senso sia proprio questo.

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 10:27:44 +0100, Mary Cassidy wrote:
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Maybe it just wasn't common when you served the army. *
* Me l'hai porta ** su un piatto d'argento. Ho dovuto! Ora, però, è meno
divertente poiché anche le donne possono entrare nell'esercito in Italia.
Grande conquista...
** voce del verbo "porgere". "Portare" non c'entra niente.
Bye, FB
-- 
"Is this Miss Prism a female of repellent aspect, remotely connected with
education?" "She is the most cultivated of ladies, and the very picture of
respectability" "It is obviously the same person".
("The Importance of Being Earnest", Oscar Wilde)

 But I weren't able to find
"I wasn't". Since you write it in another thread, I thought I'd point it
out.
Bye, FB
-- 
Mrs. Palmer, in her way, was equally angry. 'She was determined to drop his
acquaintance immediately, and she was very thankful that she had never been
acquainted with him at all'. (Jane Austen)

 
ti prego...potresti andare avanti ancora un po? almeno fino alla della 
scena? (prima che vanno da tipo che gli ha rifilato la sola!)
Grazie immensamente...

 Grazie immensamente...
Prego. Basta lo script completo o devo comunque postare il pezzo sul NG?
Ah, non ho visto il film e non ho il DVD, quindi non ti posso fare un
transcript *reale* del parlato, se è quello che volevi.
Sebastiano

 Bye, FB
ta

 Prego. Basta lo script completo o devo comunque postare il pezzo sul NG?
lo script basta...grazie mille!

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Er, I should have written "Since you wrote it...".
Bye, FB
-- 
"Come, dear, we have already missed five, if not six, trains. To miss any
more might expose us to comment on the platform."
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 Er, I should have written "Since you wrote it...".
Or "Since you've written", I suppose. "Since you'd written" should do as
well. 
On another note, I recently found out that in AmEng you not only write
"er", as does every native speaker, I would think, you also say [3r]. It
seems curious to me, for though [3r] is the consistent pronunciation for
those who have a rhotic pronunciation, it sounds like a word rather than a
sound (in fact, "er" is a word). Do you know if it is due to the spelling,
which would have affected pronunciation, or it has always been pronounced
like that.
* in a rhotic pronunciation, every r is pronounced.
Bye, FB
-- 
"May I come with you to the station?"
"Please, do. I like to go off in style."
(Cold Comfort Farm, the film)

 Bye, FB
Say again?
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 Say again?
In Italian we say "ehm", in English you say "er" (don't you?), like in "Er,
I don't know". It is usually written "er", and in American, as I recently
found out, it is pronounced accordingly [3r]. In brief, you pronounce the
"r". 
Er, nonsense? (smiling face)
Bye, FB
-- 
"While I'm here, might I make a few changes? I adore my bedroom, but do you
think I could have my curtains washed? I believe they're red, but I should
like to make sure."
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 Maybe it just wasn't common when you served the army. *
Very funny. (Actually I would have been a conscientious objector if
women had been drafted when I was the right age.)
You don't necessarily have to have served in the army to hear some
military slang.
I think fugazi originally dates from the Vietnam war, but I'm not
absolutely sure.
-- 
Mary

 Bye, FB
No nonsense (not to be confused with panty-hose); you are, inevitably,
right. It's usually pronounced and spelled [3r] and "er".
We also say "um" "ah" "mm" among others.
But I hafta ask: whaddaya got against Rs anyway? They're not so hahd to
say. Are you sure you're not Chinese? :)
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 say. Are you sure you're not Chinese? :)
What if I attempted to put on a Bostonian accent? I'm afraid that's the
best I can do at the moment. I'm also afraid it'll sound the same as my
British accent. It will be slightly less ludicrous than my, errrr, American
accent.
Bye, FB
-- 
Conversation like television set on honeymoon: unnecessary.
(Murder by Death)

 ("calzamaglia")? 
www.nononsense.com
Sebastiano

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Thanks. I suppose I should have thought so.
Bye, FB
-- 
"Are you sure an embryo parson should have a plane?"
"Everyone should have a plane!"
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I have never heard this expression, in or out of the Army.
Joe from Massachusetts

 I have never heard this expression, in or out of the Army.
I don't know, I guess it's not famous or not in use.
I guess it's known only to those who saw Donnie Brasco, and still remember
the movie.
For example, I know the expression "to go commando" because of Friends, but
I don't know where it came from.
QUOTE
I read several reports that claimed today's phrase came from Britain's
Royal Marine Commandos who, one assumes, often go boxerless beneath their
fatigues. I can't confirm that, but I do know that going commando hit the
mainstream when it was used in a 1996 episode of the sitcom Friends. I
managed to find a couple of dozen citations since 1996, but I found only
one before that:
END QUOTE
And this:
"Furthermore, colored briefs are 'sleazy' and going without underwear
('going commando,' as they say on campus) is simply gross."
—Jim Spencer, "Marking the Golden Anniversary of a Brief Success," Chicago
Tribune, January 22, 1985
I still have no idea whether "Bellini" (meaning "big job") comes from
"Welcome to Collinwood" or not.
I found this on Urbandictionary:
1. Bellini
Borne out of Brooklyn life, it refers to the "big job", the one final heist
that will let a common crook retire forever.
Jim's got a bellini that bigger than anything you've ever done.
I want in on Jim's bellini.
Source: Theodore, May 17, 2004
2. Bellini
A sorry mother fucker who thinks the world is going to come to an end
Joe your such a bellini about things
Sebastiano

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Anche SNAFU ha quell'origine militare, no? In quale guerra 
è stata usata la prima volta?
 
-- 
Today no, tomorrow yes.

 è stata usata la prima volta?
WW2, mi pare.
-- 
Mary

"Mary Cassidy" <ma...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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It was first used in WW2.
Because the phrase was so widespread, an American military filmmaker
named Theodore Seuss Geisel created an animated cartoon character
named "Private Snafu", in order to make military training films more
interesting. Geisel would later become better known as "Doctor Seuss",
the most famous of American children's writers.
http://www.immaginariofiorentino.com/albertopage/amimatorsa-z/animatorsg.htm
Joe from Massachusetts