Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: finito

Chi direbbe "finito" parlando in inglese?
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
-- 
"Italians have such a high regard for ice cream that they don't even 
call it 'ice cream'. They call it 'gelato'". (Pizza Express, London)

 Enrico il Pentolaio.
I've heard "finito"  used by US natives with the meaning that Italians 
give to "kaputt" .  " It's over" - "That's the end of the line" - "No 
reason to discuss this any further" etc...
IMO  the person using that word wants to  put a very strong emphasis on 
having reached the ending point of a debate.
Not sure if this was in your question, but  neither the person using 
"finito"  nor the person(s) addressed are  necessarily of Italian descent.


Millions , including me .
Mike 

 reason to discuss this any further" etc...
I heard it last night in Sex and the City.
Carrie : Eleventh grade. Seth Bateman. His smelly rec room. Half a 
joint, three thrusts, finito.
Charlotte : Eew!
Thanks!
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 Millions , including me .
Cool. I imagined it was an American thing, but if you say so...
:-)
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 Thanks!
I meant, thanks for the explanation. No need to translate those lines!
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 I meant, thanks for the explanation. No need to translate those lines!
  Yes, of course, I know you don't need to have that translated :>)

 
Not exactly a new topic, but I find fascinating how  native English 
speakers who  can pick words from the largest vocabulary ever known to 
mankind  are not shy to use foreign words such as "finito" to render 
exactly the meaning they want to convey.
AFAIK no other language (I should perhaps say culture) has a similar 
openness.

 
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Of course but, generalizing, usually it's because there is a strong 
reason to use a foreign world,  either because there is no Italian 
equivalent term or there is no cultural equivalent in Italian.
  I believe there  a difference: English speaking folks  (I would leave 
writers out from this discussion) use words such as "finito" or the 
Spanish "pronto" (just two examples, of course there are more) even 
though the same meaning could be easily rendered in English.

 though the same meaning could be easily rendered in English.
Didn't you ever hear italians saing: "vamos", for "andiamo", or "art 
director" instead of "direttore asrtistico"? And "OK"?
There's a lot of foreign words, widely used here although they have a 
synonim in Italian.
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I guess you're right... but please remind me what's the synonym of OK again?

 again?
"Va bene". Qua si dice anche "bon".
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 again?
In senso generale, "Tutto bene", "D'accordo" o simili.
In senso etimologico, "Zero ammazzati" (0 kill'd)
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 "Va bene". Qua si dice anche "bon".
E quello, per me, è francese :) ... va be', quasi.
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 equivalent term or there is no cultural equivalent in Italian.
Hence "lo shopping", "il killer", 
www.welfare.it
!
Antonio


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