Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: didn't need to have bought VS needn't have bought

Come da oggetto, qual è la differenza tra:
you didn't need to have bought
you needn't have bought
Grazie 

 you didn't need to have bought
o anche "you didn't need to buy"
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The meaning is the same in both phrases.
The second is not quite as common as the first in casual conversation: it 
sounds overly formal for AmE.
But as Adam pointed out, you could use "you didn't need to buy" in most 
cases.
-- 
Joey from NY

 sounds overly formal for AmE.
I think I can invent a situation in which you need something like it.
"When you went to apply for the permesso di soggiorno yesterday, you
didn't
need to have (already) bought the marca di bollo before going to the
Questura:
they have the marche available for sale in the office."
Of course I don't claim the content here is accurate.

I suggest to turn on your satellite tv receveir and to stay tuned for a
couple of weeks only, so if your oral comprehension is quite good, I
guess you should discover some amazing things about american english and
things like that.
        Well, there's nothing doubt about that, if you would like to fit
your english, keep on listening and keep on listening radio ad american
television. On one hand, that's for sure, you really can accelerate your
oral comprehension on keep on using this kind of stuffs. 
        On the other hand, if you want to energize your english
speaking, well it's not easy because you are italian, you live in italy
and you usually speaks in italian and you are thinking just like a
fucking italian man. First of all, you have to emulate the american
thinking and it means you have to try on staying in step with American
or English conversations. I guess your goal need to fix your mind, it
means you have to change your point of view, stay on the right target.
It means, in my fucking opinion, the main goal is what is the right
thing?! what is the wrong thing? Everything is turning around on this
aspect.
        What's the right thing to do?
        What's the right stuff for something?
        Who's making the difference between something?
        Which elements are making the difference on reaching the goal?
        Be more pragmatic!
        On american and eglish television, in my fucking opinion,
everything seems to turn around about what is right and what is wrong. A
fact is a fact, and a fact is not an opinion. Things are black or white
or what? And in the last case, a story has got some facts and there's no
fucking doubts about them.So, if something is wrong, it means it is
wrong so it's not important what it happens later and later again, if
it's wrong, it's fucking wrong and there's nothing so say all about. On
the other hand, if something is right, the thing it's right and it
counts what kind of elements are making the differences between reaching
a goal and getting a defeat.
 
For example, imagine you have one ugly city car only, so an italian can
speak about what if... well, if I had a ferrari or a lamborghini, I
would drive along sunset boulevard for having sex with beautiful girls.
        Goddam it!, But the point is that you have an ugly city car
only, so what the hell of senteces are you writing about?! If you have a
small ugly city car, that's for sure you can save up more money at the
pump station!. So what? Well, be more pragmatic! if you save up more
money, you'll buy a new bigger house, because the house market is down
in the USA and houses are cheper than europe.
That's the could be a smart thinking!
Do you agree with me, or what?!
:-)
-- 
"I bit portano i caratteri.
I caratteri le parole.
Le parole, l'anima."
www.6502.4000.it

I suggest to turn on your satellite tv receveir and to stay tuned for a
couple of weeks only, so if your oral comprehension is quite good, I
guess you should discover some amazing things about american english and
things like that.
        Well, there's nothing doubt about that, if you would like to fit
your english, keep on listening and keep on listening radio ad american
television. On one hand, that's for sure, you really can accelerate your
oral comprehension on keep on using this kind of stuffs. 
        On the other hand, if you want to energize your english
speaking, well it's not easy because you are italian, you live in italy
and you usually speaks in italian and you are thinking just like a
fucking italian man. First of all, you have to emulate the american
thinking and it means you have to try on staying in step with American
or English conversations. I guess your goal need to fix your mind, it
means you have to change your point of view, stay ever on the right
target. It means, in my fucking opinion, the main goal is what is the
right thing?! what is the wrong thing? Everything is turning around on
those aspects.
        What's the right thing to do?
        What's the right stuff for something?
        Who's making the difference between something?
        Which elements are making the difference on reaching the goal?
        Be more pragmatic!
        Be less hypothetical
        On american and eglish television, in my fucking opinion,
everything seems to turn around about what is right and what is wrong. A
fact is a fact, and a fact is not an opinion. Things are black or white
or what? And in the last case, a story has got some facts and there's no
fucking doubts about them.So, if something is wrong, it means it is
wrong so it's not important what it happens later and later again, if
it's wrong, it's fucking wrong and there's nothing so say all about. On
the other hand, if something is right, the thing it's right and it
counts what kind of elements are making the differences between reaching
a goal or getting a defeat.
 
For example:
Let's imagine you are a poor bastard and you have one ugly city car
only, so if you think into an italian way of thinking, that's for sure
you'll speak that if you had a ferrari or a lamborghini, you would drive
along sunset boulevard for having sex with beautiful girls.
        Goddam it!, But the point is that you are a poor bastard and you
have an ugly city car only, so what the hell of senteces are you writing
all about?! 
Holy shit!, Be more pragmatic!
Holy shit!, Be less hypothetical
Ok!, let's try again!
        Well, if you have a small ugly fucking city car and you are a
poor bastaard, you know, that's for sure you can save up more money at
the pump station!. So what? Well, you motherfucker, if you save up more
money, that's for sure you'll buy a new bigger house, because the house
market is down in the USA, and houses'prices are cheper than europe.
Do you agree with me, or what?!
:-)
Look, I guess it could be a smart thinking!, but I leave those
suggestions to the english native speakers, may be they have something
to add or something to fix.
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