Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Chi mi aiuta  a capire...

...cosa dicono qui?
http://digilander.libero.it/MassyPage/audio1.wav
Io capisco solo:
- ?that? boys
- ?swi???? do, today
- did you ???????? ?
- ?nice?
- ok
Grazie.
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I'm a Dream!!! 

 
http://digilander.libero.it/MassyPage/audio1.wav
sorry:
http://digilander.libero.it/MassyPage/audio.wav
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 - ok
(What')s up boys?
So what do you guys wanna do today?
Dude, do you want to crush the mall?
Nice!
OK!

 OK!
Grazie 1000!!!
Quindi sarebbe:
- come va, ragazzi?
- Dunque, cosa vogliamo fare oggi?
- Fighetto, vuoi ?crush the mall? ?
- Bene!
- Ok!
Cosa significa "crush the mall"? (letteralmente mi verrebbe "schiacciare la 
strada", quindi potrebbe essere "fare una passeggiata"?)
E il resto l'ho tradotto correttamente?
Grazie ancora.
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 Grazie ancora.
-- 
Enrico C
...still legal tender...

 Forse "andiamo al centro commerciale"
c può stare! in effetti nel video si vede che dopo vanno in una specie di 
centro commerciale!
Grazie 1000 anche a te!
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 OK!
On another note, when is "mall" pronounced [m&l] and when [mO:l] in RP? For
instance, one says [p&l m&l] ("pall mall").
Bye, FB
-- 
Domanda: "Era il figlio di Iside e Osiride".
Risposta: "Thor".
(quiz televisivo)

 E il resto l'ho tradotto correttamente?
Si va al centro commerciale?
:)

Dude, do you want to crush the mall?
...*crash* the mall

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Crash, not crush!
http://community.channel4.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/2576000511/m/951601284/p/47
Joe from Massachusetts

 instance, one says [p&l m&l] ("pall mall").
Intersting point!
The Cambridge English Pronouncing Dictionary shows
mall: [mO:l], [m&l]
Mall (in the Mall, Chiswick Mall, Pall Mall): [m&l]
http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/4169b3db_eec5/bc/My+Documents/mall.gif?bfpUx_CBOvTsDNnJ
The sounds played are
mall: [mO:l]
Mall (in the Mall, Chiswick Mall, Pall Mall): [m&l]
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Xakero

 Mall (in the Mall, Chiswick Mall, Pall Mall): [m&l]
It took me a while to figure out how to record sound being played through
the sound card, but here it is now for anyone interested in it:
mall:
http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/4169b3db_eec5/bc/My+Documents/mall_01.wav?bfhDy_CBPUED7TFd
(117 KB)
Mall:
http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/bc/4169b3db_eec5/bc/My+Documents/mall_02.wav?bfhDy_CBHbeH9iAH
(156 KB)
-- 
Xakero

 ha scritto nel messaggio
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Yes!!
My bad.

 >
In the US, "cruising the mall" is a common expression. "Cruising the
mall"  is a way of passing time and socializing for many teenagers.
So common is this phenomenon, and so numerous are the teenagers,
that many malls are putting in place rules which limit the presence
of teenagers in the malls.
«From 6 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. on Fridays and Saturdays, mall security
guards now stand outside two entrances to make sure anyone under 16
has a parent or someone over 21 with them.»
http://cbs5.com/watercooler/watercooler_story_110072833.html
"Cruising the mall" is a fairly innocuous pastime, involving window
shopping and socializing, and maybe a stop at McDonald's, but the
large number of teenagers who are just cruising, and not shopping,
makes store managers uncomfortable.
"Crashing the mall" is a more adversarial expression. It implies going
to the mall knowing that you will be treated as univited or unwelcome
guests. You go in packs, dressed outlandishly, intent on making an
impression, trying to be noticed, and fully expecting to be asked to
leave. Avril La Vigne's videos are largely responsible for the
popularity of the phrase "crashing the mall".
Joe from Massachusetts

 popularity of the phrase "crashing the mall".
L'audio da me riportato è proprio di quel video! :-)
p.s.: ma non era Avril Lavigne?!?
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Pall Mall is also the name of a brand of cigarettes, whose name was
chosen because of the "snob appeal" associated with the English
street. It is pronounced two ways in the US.
«In television advertising in the mid fifties, live announcers
pronounced the brand's name as "Pell Mell", while the package clearly
says "Pall Mall". With the dissipation of cigarette advertising, first
with bans on radio, then television, the pronounciation has found a
decidedly generational tone. Those who lived in the era of the audible
advertisements pronounce the "Pell Mell" while those who have only the
visual title to refer to often use the increasingly more common
phonetic "Pall Mall".»
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pall_Mall_(cigarette)
Joe from Massachusetts

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Yes. Pardonnez-moi. I was adjusting my skateboard,
and let that one slip.
I don't Lavigne uses the phrase "crash the mall" or anything
like it, on any of her CDs, only on one of her videos
("Complicated"?), but she will be forever remembered as
a mall-crasher.
Joe from Massachusetts

 I don't Lavigne uses the phrase "crash the mall" or anything
I don't think
Joe from Massachusetts

 phonetic "Pall Mall".»
Aren't you begging the question? (smiling face) Do you mean "p-all m-all"?
[...]
Bye, FB
-- 
"May I come with you to the station?"
"Please, do. I like to go off in style."
(Cold Comfort Farm, the film)

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Too pretty to behave like a tomboy, but I guess she can't help it.
Bye, FB
-- 
"Observe, Lord Burghley: I am married: to England."
(Elizabeth)

 Too pretty to behave like a tomboy, but I guess she can't help it.
I'd say "to be a tomboy". Am I wrong? In fact, the expression "tomboy"
describes a behaviour, i.e. "a girl who behaves in a boyish manner".
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 describes a behaviour, i.e. "a girl who behaves in a boyish manner".
Yes, I guess there's a logical fallacy there. [1]
[1] E scusa se io so che vuol dire e tu no. (faccina sorridente) I heard it
some days ago. Larry King interviewed Bill Maher (I hope I got the name
righ). By the way, I hope he knows what he's doing: he lashed out against
the Bush administration so fiercely. The US is a democracy, but I'm afraid
someone's going to kick his axxe if he makes a false move.
Bye, FB
-- 
"Che cos'è un fallo da tergo? E non stiamo parlando della tua vita
privata."
(Intervista della Gialappa's Band a Elisabetta Canalis)

 Aren't you begging the question? (smiling face) Do you mean "p-all
m-all"?
Pall Mall (rhymes with tall).
The British variant "pal-mal" (rhymes with shall) is not used in the
US.
Joe from Massachusetts

 US.
I guess this is due to the fact that the advertisement dates back to when
"shall" was pronounced [SEl], not only [S&l]. In RP it wouldn't have rhymed
with "tell", which had, and for some still has, an [e].
Bye, FB
-- 
Mrs. Palmer, in her way, was equally angry. 'She was determined to drop his
acquaintance immediately, and she was very thankful that she had never been
acquainted with him at all'. (Jane Austen)

 with "tell", which had, and for some still has, an [e].
In order further to corroborate my hypothesis, I'd like to hear from the
Brits among you whether "Pall Mall" nowadays is pronounced "pell mell",
which I doubt, [p&l m&l] (i.e. with the vowel in "back"), which I suspect
because it would be the natural evolution of "pell mell", whereas in the US
"pell mell"  was a sort of stock-pronunciation even fifty years ago, as far
as I know, or "p-all m-all".
Bye, FB
-- 
Saldando insieme vari dadi con una goccia d'acqua e tanta pazienza, riesci
a fare una specie di custodia con coperchio nella quale inserire la patata.
Per la cottura poi procedi come per il pollo alla creta.
(Elogio del dado - Garfield su it.hobby.cucina)