Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Disapprove

Il verbo "disapprove" � transitivo o regge la preposizione "of"?
 
Lo chiedo perch� ho letto la frase di Evelyn Beatrice Hall:
 
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death
your right to say it"
 
frase erroneamente attribuita a Voltaire, e sono rimasto sorpreso
per quel "disapprove of what you say".
 
Ciao,
Roger 
 

 Il verbo "disapprove" � transitivo o regge la preposizione "of"?
 
Aggiungo che il Merriam-Webster lo d� come transitivo
 
Ciao,
Roger 
 

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Have you hard of US Government shutdown after a Republican-controlled 
Senate disapproved budget for political reasons? Don't you disapprove of 
such cynicism?
 
 

 such cynicism?
 
To disapprove a budget is different than to not approve a budget. The 
Senate did not approve a budget. If you want to use "disapprove" to 
describe an action instead of an attitude, you can do so without an 
indirect object, but valid instances are rare.
 
We tend to say "the city building department revoked his construction 
permit" rather than "the city building department disapproved his 
construction permit."
 
You can say "her application for a permit was disapproved" however it is 
more common to say "her application for a permit was not approved."

 more common to say "her application for a permit was not approved."
 
OK. So, "to disapprove" means "to reject" here, but like you say it's 
not what people would generally use.
 

 
 
The expression "disapprove of" means have an unfavorable opinion of 
something, to dislike it. This is an intransitive form that takes a 
prepositional phrase in "of."
 
--My wife disapproves of my late-night carousing with my buddies.
 
It also takes a direct object as a transitive verb, meaning to reject or 
disallow.
 
--I requested a budged of $5Million but the CFO disapproved the request.
(Not "disapproved of," although before the CFO disapproved it, he might have 
disapproved of it as well.)
 
http://www.learnersdictionary.com/definition/disapprove
 
 
-- 
Joey from New York
Among those whom I like or admire, I can findï¿œno common denominator,
but among thoseï¿œwhom I love, I can: all of them make me laugh.
ï¿œ ï¿œ-- WH Auden
 

 not what people would generally use.
 
Again, the difference is what is more common in conversation. The actual 
rejection letter might use the word "disapproved."
 
 
 

 approve" in this instance.
 
Just for clarification, the appropriations bill is needed to authorize 
payment of the federal debt. Without approval, default on the debt is 
projected for October 17.
 
The shutdown of the government, which has already happened, requires 
approval of a CR or continuing resolution for the government to pay its 
bills to operate services. Typically, these bills are routinely approved.
 
In this instance, the Republican party is refusing to approve the bills 
as a means of extorting concessions from the Democrats. More 
specifically, they want to  cripple the Affordable Health Care Act, a 
law passed several years ago and which goes into effect in 2014. This 
law, popularly called Obamacare, provides financial assistance to the 
poor and lower-middle class so that they can buy health insurance. 
Currently a large number of Americans have no health insurance or are 
charged exorbitant rates by insurance companies if they have a 
pre-existing medical condition. The bill also regulates the market so 
that health insurance is affordable based on income.

 
http://www.learnersdictionary.com/definition/disapprove
 
 
Vedo che il Lerner's Merriam-Webster dice "often + of"
come se la preposizione fosse facoltativa.
Ma forse interpreto male.
 
In definitiva la frase:
 
I disapprove what you say...
 
è decisamente sbagliata o ha una sfumatura diversa di significato?
 
Ciao,
Roger 
 

 that health insurance is affordable based on income.
 
 
Have you seen "Sicko", Michael Moore's documentary? When I saw it I 
thougt it was a good film about a real issue, but it also felt somewhat 
biased, as it presented only the worst cases in the US system and the 
best cases in other countries. Had Michael Moore visited Italy, he could 
  tell "horror stories" about our universal health care system too!

   tell "horror stories" about our universal health care system too!
 
Yes, I saw it. It certainly had a strong perspective, but the basic 
premise is true: In the pre-Obamacare American health care system, 
people frequently go bankrupt or are unable to get affordable health 
insurance because of a pre-existinig condition.