Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: I can wait to it (as if)

Mi aiutate a tradurre quell' "as if" ?
E' gergale?
Grazie,
Francesco.

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Yes, it's a slangy expression meant to contradict what was just said prior.
"I can't wait to go to the dentist and have my tooth pulled. As if!" (as if
it were true)
He: We had a great time on our date last night!
She: <to herself> As if!
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 14:33:50 GMT, Francesco Napolitano wrote:
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By the way, I don't understand the first part of your subject/object line.
"I can wait to it" doesn't make any sense.
Is there something missing, maybe?
I can wait to <do> it. Or some other verb?
And should it be "I can't wait to <verb>...?" which is more common? Just
checking. :)
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 She: <to herself> As if!
In Italian we have "Come no...".
Ciao, FB
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del tuo pianerottolo.
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 In Italian we have "Come no...".
oppure "le racconti così bene che sembrano vere" :)
cmq mi attacco qui senza aprire nulla, mi piacerebbe tradurre uno dei miei
cavalli di battaglia nelle conversazioni che sarebbe la frase "ma non
sarai mica troppo simpatico?" in senso ironico quando l'altro al quale mi
riferisco diventa un po' troppo pesante; ecco, io pensavo ad un "but
aren't you too much nice?" ma non so se sia corretta...

"but aren't you too much nice?" ma non so se sia corretta...
ehmm forse è meglio "but shouldn't you be too much nice?"...

 aren't you too much nice?" ma non so se sia corretta...
You can't say "too much nice"; "too much" usually precedes a noun: too much 
money (as if!), too much work today, too much traffic.
If I understand the Italian correctly, it is probably something like 
"Aren't YOU being kind!"
"That's AWfully kind/nice of you!" (This can be said as a compliment, too. 
It's the tone and the situation that matters.)
Note the accented syllable, to express the irony.
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 checking. :)
I don't know wether the author is a native english or not. Anyway, he was
answering to a message announcing a 10 days delay on a project he was
following. So I think he wants to say something like: "I can wait untill
that date".  Is it wrong? What's the correct way to say that?
Now, saying "I can wait to it (as if)" means "The truth is that I can't wait
to it" or rather "I can see no reason to be impatient"? =).
Francesco.

 wait to it" or rather "I can see no reason to be impatient"? =).
He can say:
'I can't wait for it' = I am too impatient to wait. I cannot be patient and
wait.
'I can wait for it'  = I am not too impatient to wait. I can be patient and
wait.

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Okay, I think he means to have said "I can wait *for* it. As if!" In other
words, "I can wait for it. No I can't!"
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 money (as if!), too much work today, too much traffic.
you're right (obvious :) ) but how can i translate "troppo/molto + un
aggettivo" for example "sei troppo simpatico, sei molto bella"? maybe
"you're too kind, you're very good-looking"?

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Esatto. "You're too kind" is a typical compliment. Since it sounds a little
odd to tell someone they're "too good-looking" you intuited that "very
good-looking" sounds better. You're right! :)
However, in the heat of ... passion ... people have been known to say all
kinds of things, and "you're too good-looking" (or "you're too sexy") are
not impossible to use. 
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 words, "I can wait for it. No I can't!"
So "as if" = "No I can't" and not "There's nothing to wait for".
Thank you :),
Francesco.

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You're welcome. In this case "as if" means "No, I can't" but in general it
contradicts whatever was just said. So in some cases it would mean "no it
isn't", "no, you're not" etc.
Also note that when spoken, the accent is on IF.
In the example about the date, mentioned earlier:
He: We had a good time on our date last night!
She: <to herself> as IF! (no we did NOT!!)
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 money (as if!), too much work today, too much traffic.
Can't you think of a case where "too much <adjective" is acceptable?
Bye, FB
-- 
"What meaning of this, Mitter Twain?". "I will tell you, Mr Wang, if you
can tell me why a man who possesses one of the most brilliant minds of this
century can't say his prepositions or articles".
(Murder by Death)

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:00:00 GMT, Francesco Napolitano wrote:
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Se ho capito bene:
"As if" ==> "Come no..."
"I can wait for it. As if!" ==> "Posso aspettare. Come no..."
Ciao, FB
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 So "as if" = "No I can't" and not "There's nothing to wait for".
The use of 'to' in this case is so bizarre and wrong that it puts the entire
communication in question, e se fossi in te, I'd disregard the entire
sentence.

 Can't you think of a case where "too much <adjective" is acceptable?
"Any case"?
Bye, FB
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Locked from the inside. That can only mean one thing, and I don't know what
it is.
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 "I can wait for it. As if!" ==> "Posso aspettare. Come no..."
Da queste party basta un "oeuh" ([ö], lunghezza variabile) pronunciato
appropriatamente.
Ciao, FB
-- 
Mrs. Palmer, in her way, was equally angry. 'She was determined to drop his
acquaintance immediately, and she was very thankful that she had never been
acquainted with him at all'. (Jane Austen)

 Can't you think of a case where "too much <adjective" is acceptable?
I don't think there are any cases where it's possible.
-- 
Mary

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messaggio news:2qr99iF...@uni-berlin.de...
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Credo anch'io. Cmq quello che mi interessava di più era capire quell'as if.
Grazie a tutti, se passate di qua vi offro una cena (as if)... :)
Francesco

 ... passion ... people have been known
argh, "have been known" what does it mean? 
To know significa conoscere, intendere, capire, mentre la forma verbale
è passiva. Proprio non riesco a tradurla, è gergale? :( 

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Non credo sia gergale. Non so se io l'abbia mai incontrata, ma credo che 
"people have been known to say all kinds of things"
significhi
"si è sempre saputo che la gente dice ogni sorta di cose".
O forse 
"Dalla gente si è sentito dire ogni sorta di cose"? 
Ai poster l'ardua sentenza.
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 Ai poster l'ardua sentenza.
 
Nel contesto di Joey, significa "ti capita di dire le cose più
impensate".
-- 
Mary

"Francesco Napolitano" <a@b.c> wrote in message
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.....una cena. As if!
"You've got your mates, and your social and sex lives are bubbling
along just nicely. Well, you're in your prime, aren't you? AS IF!"
http://library.digiguide.com/lib/programme/60911
Joe from Massachusetts