Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Vorresti imparare alcune frase in inglese?

Salve a tutti italiani ingenui!
Questo messaggio e' per le persone che non sanno nessuno parole inglesi.
La pronuncia in inglese seguia la frase italiana:**
--Vorrei comprare una bicchiere di vino.
--ai vud laich tu bai a vul-ver-rin.
--Sto cercando per un gabinetto.
--iu luch e lot leich e vul-ver-rin.
--Non capisco! Perche' mi batta, Lei?
--iu vul-ver-rin! es dat de ard-est iu chen it mi?
Per favore, vorrei una fascia.
elp mi, ai vus a-tach-d' bai e pech af vul-ver-rinz.
MOLTO IMPORTANTE:
IO NON SONO MADRALINGUE IN ITALIANO.
DEVI VERIFICARE QUESTE FRASI
CON UN' ITALIANO CHE PARLA INGLESE
PRIMA DI USARLE!!!!!
Ciao,
Ron
USA
principiante in italiano, prendere in giro e non per prendersi a pugni.
** Considerably changed but still shamelessly stolen from an old Saturday
Night Live bit with John Belushi.

principiante in italiano, prendere in giro e non per prendersi a pugni.
Preferirei un pugno da te Ron, che un post che mi fa sentire così
imbecille...
Sigh
Isa

Isa
Carissima Isa, per piacere, NON ti prendi i pugni.
Tutti capiscono che sei molto intelligente. Spero che non hai imparato il
"false modesty" brittannico!
Ma, certo, ognuno ha i talenti differenti. Leggi il mio post del mammifero
dell'America settentrione. Adesso, caperai le frasi.
Desidero che abbia il tuo talento per le lingue.
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Isa
é già passata un'ora e io ci ho capito anche meno di Isa...bah!
Rooon?
emiliano
Emma...@tin.it

Night Live bit with John Belushi.
I'm afraid you'll have to tell us a little more about that sketch, now.
Unless  you want to be sued for TransOceanic Violation of the CopyRight Law.
An unusually evil Peltio.
P.S.
Did you know that John Belushi was Albanian?

elp mi, ai vus a-tach-d' bai e pech af vul-ver-rinz.
help me, i was attacked by a pack of wolverins
Non č che stai prendendo in giro qualcuno del
Michigan (oltre a prendere in giro noi)?
Ciao,
Dario.
ITA

An unusually evil Peltio.
I should have expected your interest in this given your Animal House fetish.
The aforementioned skit is even older.
John Belushi enters a room where a man is sitting with a book. John sits
across from him and the man begins to give John English lessons (John speaks
with the pseudo-Transylvanian accent that Americans generally apply to all
foreigners). The sitting man says a sentence in English and John repeats it.
Every sentence includes the word "wolverine" in it--a rather odd word to
teach anyone learning English because one seldom encounters an appropriate
situation to use it. The sentences, each with a wolverine reference, become
more and more bizarre. Gradually, the relatively silent audience begins to
laugh as the absurdity of the situation grows. This continues until, in a
desperate attempt to find a way out of this sketch that has nowhere to go,
John stands up, fakes a heart attack, and dies on stage (not literally, but
perhaps figuratively?).
You have to appreciate absurd humor to appreciate the sketch. I just adapted
it to a mock instructional post for newbies to the English language.
Childish? --yes! Devoid of any creative content? --mostly! A sick and
despicable manipulation of the innocent, guileless minds of unfortunate
Italians who might accidentally stumble on that post? --I plead guilty, but
reserve the right to enjoy the little joke anyway.
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Michigan (oltre a prendere in giro noi)?
Dear Dario,
Wolverine.
In ogni caso, hai l'uno o l'altro, una comprensione bravissima di inglese e
la cultura americana, o un molto buon vocabolario americano. Il stato di
Michigan si chiama anche "The Wolverine State." Ma questo satirico molto
assurdo fa riferimento all'animale. Si deve aprezzare l'umoroso assurdo per
aprezzare il post.
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Ciao
Konrad
IT
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Mettete un segno sulla frase che descrive meglio la tua reazione al post:
"Vorresti imparare alcune frase in inglese?"
[   ]  It was so funny, I laughed out loud!
[   ]  I found it amusing.
[   ]  I thought it was a little humorous, after some deliberation.
[   ]  Incredibly boring, please stop wasting my time.
[   ]  I didn't understand it at first, and now that I do
       understand it, I wish I didn't!
[   ]  I didn't get it, I still don't get it, and I don't want to get it!
[   ]  I thought it was mean and nasty, you should be in prison!
[   ]  I didn't read it
[   ]  What post?
[   ]  (Fill-in the blank)
Ron
USA
principiante in sondare l'opinione (tra le altre cose)

[X]  It was so funny, I laughed out loud!
Non c'č niente di meglio per imparare cose nuove, di farlo con umorismo...
Ciao.
--
Er Roscio.

[X]  I found it amusing.
...though I found it difficult to read your wannabe italian
pronunciation : )
baci
Janis
p.s. Am I being rude? Cause I'm so damn pissed today! : (((


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But then SNL was blast!!! Especially the older ones with Mr. Robinson's
neighborhood (Eddie Murphy), the Coneheads (didn't like them much) with Dan
Ackroyd and Jane Curtain, The Whiners, Pokey and Gumby and all the rest.  A
whole generation made sure they were in a place with a TV on Saturday Night at
11.00pm.
Brings back the memories!  Thanx Ron.
Ron ha scritto:
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 [ X  ]  It was so funny, I laughed out loud!
Nicole

[X]  I found it amusing.
Regards
Bambi

 wrote:
LOL Gee Ron, you are a mean little thing, aren't you? Remember, what goes
around comes around.  I'll have to think something up for you next, so be on
guard!!!! LOL
Ciao
arianna
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Los Angeles -> L.A.)
Watch the vocabulary and number:
"cities/states (or counties) in the US that had their names gradually
shortened into abbreviations."
(Unless you think that Canada is a country in the US and most Canadians just
don't know it yet.)
None, as far as I know (and I'm rather nearsighted on this topic), including
Los Angeles, which is only "L.A." in an informal sense. "LA" is the state of
Louisiana to the post office, just as N.Y., NY is the city of New York in
the state of New York, but no one says "N.Y." unless it's a bratty little
kid questioning his mother on the reason he "has to do that." (I can say
that to you, Dario, because I know that you can read out loud, and
ultimately enjoy wasting the time.)
Ciao,
Ron
USA

Waiting lamps (attendo lumi)
No such thing. Perhaps, "waiting with lights burning."
Ciao,
Ron
USA

on guard!!!! LOL
If you visualize me as so diminutive in size, how can you bring yourself to
hurt me and then look at yourself in the mirror the next day?
Ciao,
Ron
USA

o un vocabolario di americano molto buono.
Potrei dire che quando parlo di cultura inglese sono assetato,
quando parlo di cultura americana sono curioso.
Ciao,
Dario.
ITA

[X]  At first I found it incredibly boring and I was about to scream
"please stop wasting my time. I didn't get it, and I don't want to get it!".
After long deliberation and a glass of red wine I realised it was amusing
and I burst out laughing.
:-)
Ciao,
Dario.
ITA

fakes a heart attack, and dies on stage.
Thanks Ron.
You know, a few years ago some of the SNL skits were brought to us poor
Italians, in a TV show (*) that was aired on Saturday Night at 11pm (more or
less). I recorded most of it, mainly the Belushi & Aykroyd performances, and
I think this particular skit is one of those I saw. I don't remember,
though, any line. Only JB mimics and eyebrow raising.
How come you remembered it so well whilst I almost forgot everything?
: ( Green envy : )
Please say you recently saw a re-run.
Una piccola questione aperta a tutti
(*) TV show =trasmissione (televisiva)
quali altri vocaboli posso usare, considerando che non si tratta di Movie e
Serial, ma di quelli che possiamo definire dei "Format"?
Il mio dizionario del '63 (giuro che ne compro uno nuovo prima di Natale)
dice "telecast" (quella radiofonica "broadcast"). Ma è un termine ancora
usato?
Waiting lamps (attendo lumi)
Peltio

[ X ]  More.

No such thing. Perhaps, "waiting with lights burning."
Ehehehe... no, it's an idiomatic sentence translated literally (for fun, of course...)
"I'm waiting for someone who enlightens me..." (enlightens ??? Is it OK ?)
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Er Roscio.

No such thing. Perhaps, "waiting with lights burning."
Roscio already explained the meaning of it.
But I wanted to thank you nonetheless for your effort in correcting me.
Please keep on doing it. Even the bigger blunders.
saluti,
Pelito

"I'm waiting for someone who enlightens me..." (enlightens ??? Is it OK ?)
"Awaiting illumination"
"Awaiting enlightenment" ha un significato spirituale.
Ciao,
Ron

(No need to say I was kidding)
Che? Non si dice "green envy" a meno che non si fa il nome nuovo per una
gruppa di Rock n' Roll.
Ciao,
Ron

Che? Non si dice "green envy".
Hai ragione, anche in italiano non si dice "invidia verde", era una boutade
sulla falsariga di "Waiting lamps": espressioni inventate al momento e senza
motivo alcuno. Starò più attento a segnalarle in modo che non sprecare gli
sforzi di voi madrelingua nelle preziose correzioni.
ciao,
Peltio
P.S
Non si dice "umoroso buono"

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Ma il significato E' spirituale !!! (è per gioco che il nostro Peltio ha scritto "lamps"...)
"Attendo che qualcuno m'illumini" significa "attendo che qualcuno mi chiarisca le idee"
(in effetti in questo caso non era proprio una illuminazione spirituale, ma neanche materiale...)
(una volta tanto che ci ho preso !... ;-)))))))))
--
Er Roscio.

 [  X ]  I found it amusing.
Ciao.
Giovanni