Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: To peal

I would like to explain a special Dutch word for "church bells ringing" 
to an American. Scampiano in Italian?.
I used the word "to peal", which she didn't know.
Maybe it isn't the right word to use?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/peal
 
The "church bells ring" is better?
 
-- 
groetjes Renee

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"Peal" is more a literary word than a word used in typical conversation. 
And, the noun form is more common than the verb form. You are much more 
likely to be understood if you use "to ring."
 
I didn't know the Italian word you mentioned, so I looked it up. I found 
scampanio instead: suono di campane forte e continue. I can't comment 
more on it because if I have ever heard the word used, it slipped by me 
uncomprehended.
 
 

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In Italian the usage is similar as in English. "Lo scampanio" (or "lo scampanare", verb used as a noun) stands for "peal"as a noun and is more common than the verb,  but  "il suono delle campane", or "suonare le campane", would be used in typical conversation.

> In Italian the usage is similar as in English. "Lo scampanio" (or "lo scampanare", verb used as a noun) stands for "peal"as a noun and is more common than the verb,  but  "il suono delle campane", or "suonare le campane", would be used in typical conversation.
 
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ecco perché non scrivo mai in questa fossa di leoni
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No, no, no, il carne del diavolo e degli uccelli non mi piace mangiare 
crudo. C'è un termine che si usa in business americano, 'constant 
improvement' che significa 'migliorare sempre.' È questo che facciamo quà.
 
In ogni caso, edevil proverà a distogliermi con diverse ricerce di 
Google e le citazioni di brani brittanichi per illuminare il grado 
essatto di buoni e brutti del uso. E come avvoltoio, becciamo l'ossatura 
del termine fino a dimenticare la domanda originale.
 

 improvement' che significa 'migliorare sempre.' � questo che facciamo qu�.
 
That reminded me of
http://www.systemswiki.org/index.php?title=Beyond_Continuous_Improvement_with_Russell_Ackoff
 
 
Kiuhnm

 
http://www.systemswiki.org/index.php?title=Beyond_Continuous_Improvement_with_Russell_Ackoff
 
 
Bene. Facciamo un sequito, Beyond Continuous Improvement II, Return of 
the Deming.

 the Deming.
 
Oops! Italinglese. Seguito.

 la domanda originale.
 
 
Bon, si capisce il senso...
:-)
 
 
-- 
In a Hong Kong supermarket:
"For your convenience, we recommend courageous, efficient
self-service."
 

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Maronna, che fossa di vipere qua!
 

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Grazie a tutti, compresi loro che si perdono nel mondo delle parole.
Thanks to all, also to the ones who where lost in a a world of words.
-- 
groetjes Renee

 Thanks to all, also to the ones who where lost in a a world of words.
 
It's only a typo, but in accordance with the theme that this thread has 
taken, I'm sure you meant to type "were."
 
Recently, I've encountered some situations in which the obvious 
intention was misunderstood by some, so just in case, let me clarify 
that my "vipere" comment was a joke and that I always appreciate 
corrections to my Italian.

 Maronna, che fossa di vipere qua!
 
 
'constant improvement'
:-)
 
 
-- 
"The President continues to surprise people, so I am not
surprised to be surprised."
                -- US Secy of Defense Dick Cheney
 

 always appreciate corrections to my Italian.
 
 
'constant improvement', Tony...
:-)
 
 
-- 
"De deux choses lune. L'autre c'est le soleil."
                -- Jacques Prévert 
 

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You are so right, that is one of my stupid typos...I know the difference 
well. Very important to point it out, thanks!
 
-- 
groetjes Renee

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Thanks :)

 improvement' che significa 'migliorare sempre.' È questo che facciamo quà.
...
 
Apart from some old edevils... beyond redemption  ;-)