Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Sailor - seaman

C'è qualche differenza semantica fra queste due parole?
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> C'è qualche differenza semantica fra queste due parole?
Non credo, oppure e' molto sottile. So solo che specie se usata al plurale
"seamen" viene spesso usata con ironia perche' si pronuncia come "semen".

 "seamen" viene spesso usata con ironia perche' si pronuncia come "semen".
Il singolare, direi, ovvero ['si:m@n]. 
Ciao, FB
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> Il singolare, direi, ovvero ['si:m@n].
Ho appena ricontrollato sul vocabolario, e' il plurale ['si:men] uguale sia
per "seamen" sia per "semen".
Pensandoci, anche in italiano c'e' la frase "una ragazza a cui piacciono i
marinai" per indicare una ragazza a cui piace il sesso.
Che non venga dalla traduzione letterale dell'inglese/americano da cui pero'
si e' inevitabilmente perso il doppio senso?
P.S. chiedo scusa a tutte le ragazze italiane per la volgarita'.
antonio


In the US, a sailor is:
Anyone who operates a sailing vessel, whether amateur or professional;
Any enlisted member of the US Navy;
Anyone who makes his living on a ship, whether in the civilian
Merchant Marine or the US Navy.
John F. Kennedy was an avid sailor before he enlisted in the Navy.
Long Island Sound is full of amateur sailors in tiny vessels in the
summertime.
When a ship comes into port, the city is full of sailors in uniform.
In New York, there is an endowed club near Grand Central Terminal,
called the "Soldiers', Sailors', Marines' and Airmen's Club", which
provides inexpensive lodging for military personnel on leave in New
York.
There is also the "Seamen's Church Institute of NY and NJ", located
near the waterfront in lower Manhattan, which caters to the needs of
men who make their living in the civilian Merchant Marine. The men who
work as seamen in the Merchant Marine refer to themselves as seamen or
seafarers or mariners, rarely as "sailors".
In the US Navy, a seaman is any rank below that of Petty Officer -
Seaman Recruit, Seaman Apprentice, and Seaman.
Joe from Massachusetts

Hi Joe, no problems about sailor and seaman, here.
Do you reckon that once too often the word "seamen"  is used with the double
meaning due to its similarity with the word "semen"?
For example, if someone says about a woman that "she likes seamen", is there
an innuendo?
P.S. is it common or is it just me that I hear these sort of jokes.
Antonio
from Stoke-on-Trent

 an innuendo?
There would be a "double entendre", although I have never heard a
woman express a liking for seamen, but have occasionally heard one
express a liking for sailors.   :>)
Joe from Massachusetts

 express a liking for sailors.   :>)
Oh well, the woman would always maintain that she likes sailors but in fact
she likes seamen.
Anyway, point taken. I don't suppose it is a very common joke after all.

 Anyway, point taken. I don't suppose it is a very common joke after all.
Not very, but there is a well-known apocryphal story that the children's
TV cartoon programme "Captain Pugwash" featured nautical characters
called Master Bates, Seaman Staines and Roger the Cabin Boy.
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I wouldn't have expected you to be so naughty-cal, Mary!
Joe from Massachusetts

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Did it really? I thought that was just an urban legend.
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 Did it really? I thought that was just an urban legend.
Note that I said "apocryphal"...
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Mary