Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: why this is safe

Joeva:nnee Neema:n

 ma c'è una differenza, quale? o it's not a big deal?
Dichiarazione: 'Why this is safe.'
Domanda: 'Why is this safe?'

 io avrei scritto "(why is this safe)".
"Why this is safe"
"What you wanted to know about X but were afraid to ask."
etc...
Kiuhnm

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(click here to find) why is this safe
quindi "why is this safe" è relativa
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 (click here to find) why is this safe
It should be
"Click here to find why this is safe."
Kiuhnm

 quindi "why is this safe" è relativa
Ma perché? L'inversione, normalmente, c'è solo con le interrogative e 
questa non è interrogativa.
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Scriveva Giovanni "Darke" Neiman venerdì, 27/07/2007:
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semplicemente perchè non è una interrogativa:
"scopri perchè non è sicuro" <=

 "scopri perchè non è sicuro" <=
toglici il NON :P

 e questa non è interrogativa.
diretta
Kiuhnm

 semplicemente perchè non è una interrogativa
diretta
Kiuhnm

"Click here to find why this is safe."
I asked him why that was safe
I'm asking you why is this safe.
boh me sà che a sto a buttà n casciara.
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diretta
e appunto.
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 I'm asking you why is this safe.
I'm asking you, why is this safe?
I'm asking you why this is safe.
-- 
Joey Dee from NYC
Remember: It is To Laugh

I'm asking you why this is safe.
maybe I'm mixing up with deutsch where the verb must always stay in
second position
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möglich
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möglich
nur ist es ich bin müde...meine Tochter, meine Frau...die
Heuschrecken....
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On Jul 29, 2007, Giovanni \Darke\ Neiman wrote:
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besser eine Heuschrecke als eine Schabe...
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I said to him, "Why is this safe?"
I asked him why this is safe.
His answer confirmed why this is safe.
I said to him, "Why is this true?"
I asked him why this is true.
His answer confirmed why this is true.
Joe from Massachusetts

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The question is "Why is this so?"
The answer tells us why this is so.
Joe from Massachusetts


Joe, seeing the German reminded me that some people have started posting the
complete FSI (Foreign Service Institute) courses (for English speakers) on
line, legally, because the courses are technically in the public domain.
They are a little old, but in my opinion, they are the best means ever
devised for developing good listening comprehension and accent. Some people
are still selling these courses on line for hundreds of dollars, such as
these:
http://www.multilingualbooks.com/fsi-german.html#prices
http://www.200words-a-day.com/foreign-service-institute-fsi-german.html
So far I have downloaded the German Basic Course, Volume 1 (344-page
textbook and 43 mp3 files) and Volume 2 (382-page textbook and 42 mp3
files). These courses are not "fun", as the warning in the introduction of
the textbook states:
«On no account should the student attempt to use these
materials without either a native instructor or recordings of a native
instructor's voice. The method of instruction incorporates guided
imitation, repetition, memorization, pattern practice, and conversation.»
The only bad thing about the downloads is that the textbook is in pdf image
format, which means it is not searchable, but I have converted the Volume 1
textbook to a searchable pdf using OCR software, and will shortly convert
the French and Spanish textbooks.
If you are interested in a copy of the searchable textbook(s), let me know.
Currently, quick downloads of Spanish, French, and German are available
here.
http://www.freelanguagecourses.com/language/german/german-language-courses-11
Some other courses may be available here:
http://fsi-language-courses.com/
Joe from Massachusetts

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Joe, thanks for the links... I'll definitely look at them.
Do you have the latest Adobe Reader? There is a pretty neat search feature 
included, that might make it unnecessary for you to do the OCR thing. It 
lists all the instances of the word you're searching for with the page 
numbers; you can jump from page to page by clicking on the results listing.
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 numbers; you can jump from page to page by clicking on the results listing.
That's part of the interface, but the fact remains that the text has to 
be extrapolated from the images one way or another.
Kiuhnm

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Yes, I know, but what Joe said was "The only bad thing about the downloads is 
that the textbook is in pdf image format, which means it is not 
searchable...."
I wanted to point out that if searching through the text is the issue, he 
could do so with the latest (or even the penultimate version of Adobe), which 
might save him the agony of going through OCR, especially with its inherent 
inability to distinguish certain letter combinations, and in German that 
could be overwhelming to someone learning.
Das ist alles.
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 searchable...."
"... but I have converted the Volume 1 textbook to a searchable pdf 
using OCR software, and will shortly convert the French and Spanish 
textbooks."
Then, as you can see, the problem is not the format.
But I admit that the first part of the sentence is not very clear, in 
fact the implication pdf->not_searchable is wrong. It is quite sure that 
that is not what he intended to say.
Kiuhnm

 could be overwhelming to someone learning.
Not every pdf is searchable. OCR needs to be used anyway to convert the 
document to a searchable pdf.
Kiuhnm
P.S. I am experimenting with English so strange sentences could arise!


Whoever scanned these books didn't want to take the extra time necessary to
scan them using OCR, or to convert them to formatted text documents after
scanning. It's not so bad for me, since I can use Acrobat to convert the
files to searchable text files, but since I have an old, slow PC, the time
required is great. I would guess that it takes 3 to 4 hours to convert a
350-page pdf book file on my old clunker using OCR. I leave such tasks to
the night, when I'm not using the PC.
Joe from Massachusetts