Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Meglio non andare a Newcastle

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Ye knaa Toon?
By ALASTAIR TAYLOR 
FOREIGN nurses flown in to work in Newcastle are so baffled by the local
lingo they have had to be given lessons — in GEORDIE.
They passed English language tests before being recruited from Singapore,
the Philippines and India to help ease staff shortages.
But they can barely understand the North East accent.
One nurse even had to check with local staff when a patient asked for the
"netty" — meaning they needed the toilet.
And phrases such as "howay man" and "that’s canny" left them so puzzled
that NHS bosses decided to launch ten-week courses at Newcastle College to
help them understand.
The nurses are learning phrases such as "Wor bairn’s hacky mucky" (my baby
needs a wash) and "Ah wes pelatick" (I was very drunk).
Theatre nurse Leoni Balasamy, 36, from Singapore, came to work at the Royal
Victoria Infirmary five months ago. 
She said of the lessons: "It is really good. It is helping me understand
things better." 
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004420372,00.html
Anch'io non capirei una parola a Newcastle.
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Xakero

 Xakero
Interessante. Qualcuno sa della situazione a Chicago ? Mi hanno detto che
anche li e molto difficile capire. E' vero ? Qualcuno ha maggiori info ?
ciao
Lapo

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What situation? I'm not aware of any as noticeable as the examples cited.
I've been to Chicago a few times and really haven't noticed anything about
the "accent" there that would make it difficult to understand, even for a
foreigner.
What do others (who have been there) think?
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Pear pea a chair, Ray. Core Reggie eel me oh eat alien, oh... :)
Joey DoWop, working on a temporary account.

 What do others (who have been there) think?
I tell you. My cousin lives and study in London. He is there from 6 years
and he is concluding university. So I think his English is probably good. He
told me he visited the United States and he was in several cities, included
Chicago, where he had some comprehension difficulties.
Indeed he stayed there for very few days so it is possible he met strange
guys and his British English concurred to his impression.
cheers (as he always says :))
Lapo


Chicago is often cited as one of the cities where the "Midwestern"
accent is prevalent.
I never noticed anything about the accent which would be a problem for
foreigners. On the contrary, it is probably a good place for a
foreigner who is learning English.
Joe from Massachusetts

 lingo they have had to be given lessons — in GEORDIE.
Avrei trovato piu' pratico ed economico(ma sarebbe forse stato inutile)
dare ai degenti di Newcastle
poche lezioni buona educazione elementare - chi puo' essere tanto
buzzurro da rivolgersi
nel proprio oscuro dialetto a uno straniero, che oltretutto e' li' per
aiutarti?
Alla larga da Newcastle, dunque.

 aiutarti?
Magari è ignoranza. Io vivo in Brianza, e ho conosciuto una signora ucraina
che, essendo vissuta a Napoli, diceva "sta" per "c'è"/"ci sono" ("ci
sta"/"ci stanno"). Bella trovata: un semplice monosillabo.
Ciao, FB
-- 
Nasalization is just a part of life.
(Joey DoWop Dee on it.cultura.linguistica.inglese)

 aiutarti?
gente che non ha mai studiato e maleducati...

 gente che non ha mai studiato e maleducati...
D'altra parte, uno statunitense, un neozelandese o un australiano si deve
fare certificare le sue conoscienze della lingua inglese se si desidera
fare naturalizzare in Gran Bretagna:
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Shonky poms
Do Australians speak English? Not according to the government
FOREIGNERS wanting British citizenship must know English. But what if
they've been speaking it all their lives? The government is in a tangle
over how to apply new naturalisation rules to applicants from countries
such as Australia. Foreigners who have learnt English must take tests. But
those from English-speaking countries are to be certified by a responsible
person such as a judge, teacher or elected official. 
English dialects, including foreign ones, do have their peculiarities. But
they're none the worse for it: of the last 20 Booker prize winners, only
eight have been British. 
For many of the applicants concerned, the very idea of having to prove that
they speak English has an unpleasant whiff of colonial condescension --
especially given the less-than-perfect English they find spoken in Britain.
Newspapers in Australia and New Zealand have mocked the new rule. No other
English-speaking country insists on a language test for would-be citizens
with British nationality.
Even more annoyingly, the government has bungled the details. Although the
new rules have been in force for some weeks, the procedures for
English-speaking applicants are not yet decided. What, for example, is
meant by a "designated teacher"? A native-speaker could end up being
certified by someone less fluent. There's no rule that local councillors,
for example, must speak English at all; at least one, in Manchester, uses
an interpreter.
The government is unapologetic, pointing out that the delay affects only
people already settled in this country who want to apply for citizenship.
They can wait a few weeks longer without inconvenience, a Home Office
spokesman argues. Maybe so. But the new rule still seems odd: once in
force, it will be open to abuse, while inconveniencing a desirable bunch of
would-be citizens for no good reason.
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Source: The Economist, 28.08.2004
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Xakero

 Alla larga da Newcastle, dunque.
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oggi no, domani sì

 Gran Bretagna:
Pare che Robert De Niro, che pare abbia antenati molisani,  
possa ricevere presto la cittadinanza onoraria italiana.
Oggi bofonchiava qualcosa in italiano al TG.
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> Alla larga da Newcastle, dunque.
Actually I lived for almost a year in Geordieland (Erasmus programme) and it
was cool to learn to understand a different accent!
ok it's not always that simple, but I find it "nicer" to listen to as the
standard so-called Queen's posh English :-P
Aye, I'm an Itai lass, who likes to go doon toon for its nightlife and have
a dog.
That is:
Yes, I'm an Italian girl, who likes to go down town to have a beer. In
particular, a Newcastle Brown Ale (broon ale), which is called also "dog".
:-)
 
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