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Titolo: (OT) L.I.W.: Of successes and accomplishments

Dear All,
In trusting the undersigned will be forgiven for this decidedly off topic
posting, it is nonetheless with pleasure that I have taken it upon myself to
communicate to Court the glad tidings which regard one of our very own
L.I.W.
Better known to us as our resident Great Vowel Shift expert ( a subject
matter which has often kept many of us awake until the small hours of the
night, I can have no doubt), yesterday, Cristina  reached the end of many
years' toil and travail by sitting, and passing with flying colours (30
lode), the very last of her University exams.As a number of us have had
occasion in dining chez elle at our last raduno, one thought that news of
the success of one of our number would be of interest to members of the
Realm whom we have no doubt join me in congratulating her on this rather
grand accomplishment.
Next stop Thesis where one suspects that vowels and their shifts - great or
otherwise - will play their part.
Congratulations.
I remain as always, etc ecc.,
Bambi
dtb

 grand accomplishment.
I didn't have the chance to dine at your place but, anyway :-)
..........congratulations, Cristina!
Cinzia
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 lode), the very last of her University exams.
I remember the day of my last University exam: I left the building going 
down the stairs throwing my feet forward, spinning my bag over my head 
and singing New York, New York.
Hope you're feeling half as euphoric, dear GVS Cristina.
Felicitations!
-- 
Ciao, sincerely
Anna

 lode), the very last of her University exams.
Well done, Cristina!
Does this mean you've finished, or do you still have a dissertation to
do?
Mary

Realm...
WRONG.
LOL
You go GRRRRRLLLLL!
(Vowel shifted in enthusiasm)
Lurve,
-- 
Isa
Work like you don't need money,
Love like you've never been hurt,
And dance like no one's watching
http://web.tiscali.it/alfabeto_auschwitz/index.htm

and singing New York, New York.
I remember the day I had to "discuss" my thesis (present my
dissertation, in real English, I guess). I was caught in a gigantic
traffic jam, was horribly late, had to phone in begging the secretary
to reschedule my appearance before the commission, and had to stop
three miles away from the University to give way to the ghastliest
dysentery attack.
All the while, it was raining cats and dogs.
-- 
Isa
Work like you don't need money,
Love like you've never been hurt,
And dance like no one's watching
http://web.tiscali.it/alfabeto_auschwitz/index.htm

 Congratulations.
OT, my foot! Nothing could be less OT!
I join with my heartfelt congratulations to Cristina.
I had to look up on the Internet what the Great Vowel Shift is and now
I shall look forward to reading Cristina's thesis, which I hope she
will publish on the net and at the appropriate time tell us where to
find it. Noblesse oblige!
Does that make Cristina a dotoressa now?
---
Xakero

 ..........congratulations, Cristina!
<I did have that chance and I still remember it.
   Being a Neapolitan I love food.
   Congratulations  Cristina
Salvatore

rather grand accomplishment.
I'm happy, what else can I say?
Ehm... I'll add I'll be even happier when Cristina will put a signal
next to her door warning you what can happen if you don't
watch your step. :-(((
Congratulations, congratulations, congratulations.
Frank

 dtb
Bolly, of course... : )
saluti,
Peltio

Thank you all.
Indeed.
It has been a long and windy ro...ahem, well long it *has* been!
BTW, it's nearly over. My 'thesis', as already sort-of-announced, will be
about runic alphabet and I'll leave the GVS alone for once!
I learnt a lot about history of the English Language (my favourite
subject) in these past few years, of which I'm hugely glad. Only...why is
anybody asking me why? I mean everybody thinks it's a useless subject
because it doesn't take anywhere in real life and that knowing the history
of a language does not help one's knowledge of the language itself.
I must be mad, then, because when I find out that, for instance, 'window'
is not a 'whole' word but a compund deriving from Norse (wind + eye) and
that it replaced the original Anglo-saxon word which meant eye-hole...well
I can't help finding it interesting, is it also useful?
I wouldn't know, to me it is.
BTW, let's not digress.
Thanks again, all of you, I do appreciate it and please remember that my
house is always open to you and it would be my pleasure to guest you once
again.
(Frank, don't worry, we will dine in the courtyard, I will allow no roof
to meet so rudely your head again)
What else can I say?
oh, yes:
YA-BLOODY-HOOOOOOOOO!!!
CC

of a language does not help one's knowledge of the language itself.
That may be true, but it's got nothing to do with you, sweetie.
Well done darling, and break a leg with your thesis.
-- 
Isa
Work like you don't need money,
Love like you've never been hurt,
And dance like no one's watching
http://web.tiscali.it/alfabeto_auschwitz/index.htm

do?
Hi Maryyyyyyy!
This means that I still have to do a dissertation, but to me the heaviest
part is over.
Also because *I* chose the subject of my 'thesis' and I really mean to do
it as if it was, how can I say, a pleasure, more than a duty.
Do you see what I mean?
It will be very interesting (to me at least) since I know very little on
the subject (runes, namely) and so does my 'relatore', to be honest.
Good chance to learn something new!
I'll keep you all updated.
CC

I need to be updated about 'you-know-what'
No need to "see" me for that. I-know-what is going really, really
well. Beyond one's wildest dreams. Thanks for the cheers I hear from
the side :-)
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Does that make Cristina a dotoressa now?
Not yet, dear Xakero, it will after my 'thesis'.
Sounds quite ... odd to me. I'm not particularly fond of 'titles' in
general.
Cheers
CC

 after our next, raduno and you'll get a free copy!
By the way.... when's that up?
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general.
Well, I'm pretty fond of HRH :-)
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 Isa
Dear Cristina and Isa,
I am surprised that our L.I.W. (soon to be Dottoressa) claims to be not
particularly fond of titles. Mayhap that is a result of 'wally' being
(fondly (and repeatedly) applied? One only asks for one distinctly remembers
having seen a post to that effect not too long ago with some discussion then
ensuing as to what word in Italian might best render the meaning of the
expression. Alas, dotage does not allow me to recall what, if any, solution
was found to be most apt.
In any event, one is fully in agreement with HRH Isabella. Bien sur.
I remain as always, etc, ecc.,
Bambi
dtb

Wally Ciocca?)
Oh no, sweetie. That would be Her Supreme Walliness, etc. etc.
Kiss,



Dear Cinzia,
I wouldn't know. Let's hope soon.
I seem to remember we (who participate to the last one) made a point of
having one within the year.
We might try and talk about a possible date and place (BTW, my place is
always, I repeat, at disposal. I only have to change the colour of my
bathroom in blue, break down part of the roof and consolidate the floor so
that our dancers can release all their energy without much damage and
leavers can leave without smashing their foreheads against the villain)
Just give me a couple of days.
Cheers 
CC

 was found to be most apt.
About dotage you may complain, Bambi, and the doyenne among our queens
you may be, but your memory is as sharp as ever whereas I had to look
up again what "wally" was all about (in July 2001)...
...which now begs the question of what definition of "wally" you may
be referring to as "wally being applied" to Cristina. Presumably the
definition that wallys are incurably romantic :-)
Spring is upon us
The flowers are blooming
The birds are nesting
And a wally applies himself to Cristina
---
Xakero

Kiss,
Definetely better, than.
LOL & LOL
kiss back
C. HSW C.

 always, I repeat, at disposal.
I also have a place where I can accommodate several people for the night as
long as they bring their own sheets and bath towels. It's by the sea, so it
wouldn't be that bad, would it? :-) It's available only until the end of May
or from mid-september. But, mind you, I'm not going to do any cooking, I'm
sick of it, I have two cook twice a day every day !! I will take everyone to
a fine typical "romagnolo" restaurant :-)
Cinzia
P.S. In case you may wonder....... or hope: :-) I'm not going to treat my
guests to the restaurant meal. Board is free but food is not! :-)
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 Definitely better, than.
Than....what, pray tell?
Tsk.
I remain, as always, etc., ecc.,
Bambi
dtb

 And a wally applies himself to Cristina
ROTFLOL
And for a moment there, I thought you were harking back to a British
version, most excellent in linguistic rendering which runs thusly:
"Spring is here, the gras is riz,
I wonder where the birdies is?"
A pleasure as always, dear Xakero and I remain, as always,
Bambi
dtb

 wrote in message 1zdt8.5948$b62.1...@news1.tin.it...
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I've been trying to follow this conversation but so far I haven't understood
anything of what you're talking about. I t seems to me you're referring to
past events I have no knowledge of, so maybe I should mind my own business
and stay out of it. Nevertheless, I'm the curious type of girl and I would
at least appreciate some explanations about two terms:
L.I.W. and Wally.
Thank you.
Cinzia
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L.I.W. and Wally.
LIW would be the Court's acronym for Lady In Waiting. If you don't
know what all this Court business is about, you haven't read the FAQs
and that's B-A-A-A-D! 
Whereas a wally is... well... gosh... a wally. My Picchi Hoepli CD-ROM
dictionary says... erm... 
(quote)
pl. -ies n, c (= twerp/twit, slang) scemo, stupido, cretino. 
What a wally! Che cretino!
(unquote)
But that's a misleading version if I ever saw one. Let me state it
clear, Mr. Picchi is dead wrong. A wally is a wally. The word must be
uttered in affection, looking lovingly over to the wally in question,
when he or she has just committed an act of walliness that only makes
him or her more endearing to one's heart. Such as, looking for one's
glasses when one is wearing them hanging from a string around one's
neck. Or, searching for one's keys when they are firmly planted into
one's lock, only facing outwards. See what I mean? "Wally" does and
must convey a loving understanding of the wally's ways from the
speaker, and a mixture of sweetness, naivété and just a tinge of
lunacy on the wally's part. SEE what I mean?
Cheers, 
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 lunacy on the wally's part. SEE what I mean?
Oh, I see, it must be that kind of person that we would call an "invornito"
here! :-)
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 L.I.W. and Wally.
Dear Cinzia,
Once upon a time (July 2001) Cristina outed herself as a wally and
inquired what Italian equivalent might exist for this word, and she
duly received assistance in this matter.
Someone else, never having met Cristina as a living example of a
wally, desired further insight into what a wally was and dictionary
definitions were posted, among them that from
http://dictionary.cambridge.org
, which is "a silly or useless person",
and which Cristina subsequently adopted with the enthusiastic outcry:
"That's me, that's me".
Though never having met Cristina either but nevertheless not devoid of
a certain affection for her, I was not truly happy with seeing her
associating herself with the Cambridge definition of a wally and
posted the URL 
http://www.mindspring.com/~thewally/defwally.html
. In
this non-dictionary definition of a wally, by a person surnamed
Wallace but by his friends nicknamed Wally, this person includes in
his presumably autobiographical definition of a wally the statement
that wallys are incurably romantic. Hence my assumption that HR
Bambi's reference to a wally being applied to Cristina (fondly and
repeatedly) could mean nothing other than Cristina's receiving the
romantic attention of a gentleman.
Another link posted in that old thread was
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Tories/story/0,7369,436162,00.html
, putting
Cristina, as a wally, in the illustrious company of John Travolta, the
Bee Gees and Boney M, John Gummer (Former Secretary of State for the
Environment), Douglas Hogg and William Hague (Members of Parliament),
and Tony Blair. In that amplification of the dictionary definition of
a wally, in "The Guardian", a wally is <<an affectionate term of abuse
and must not on any account be confused with a "proper Charlie">> (the
latter obviously being another British idiom that defies easy
definition).
Pardon me if I have been long-winded but this is, after all, the
Illuminated Realm, and illumination has been my purpose.
---
Xakero
P.S. Cinzia, if ever in this news group you come accross a reference
to a pipe in conecction with the realm's K.I.R.A. Frank (K.I.R.A or
KIRA = Knight In Rusty Armour) allow me to inform you pre-emptively
that this will in all probability have to do with the fact that in the
not so distant past this valiant knight won first place in the pipe
slow-smoking world championship. I kid you not! (And no mean feat that
was!)


Yes, let's be pedantic, why don't we?
Than = comparative, I know
Then = alura? (to be read in perfect jolly bergamasco accent)
Tsk back (and a kiss)
CC

 was!)
This is good to know. Anyway, I had already got the idea myself that Frank
is......... how shall I put this?........let's say........original!
:-))))))))))))
Cinzia

 I wonder where the birdies is?"
Alas, my anglophilia does not run so deep that I would have known that
apparently quite popular children's rhyme, in any of its variations.
But I do know a song about "the birds and the bees", with the
following lyrics:
QUOTE
Let me tell you 'bout the birds and the bees,
and the flowers and the trees,
and the moon up above, 
and a thing called love.
Let me tell you 'bout the stars in the sky,
and a girl and and a guy
and the way they could kiss
on a night like this.
When I look into your big brown eyes,
it's so very plain to see
that it's time you learned about the facts of life
starting from A to Z.
UNQUOTE
However, it pleases me to have been able to tickle your funny bone,
more so since I have since learnt from another post of yours that you
have been laid up and thus can do with some cheering up. For your
health, my best wishes!
(Hopefully, those guys in white coats have not taken you off the
Bolly)
Good to see you back at the keyboard!
---
Xakero
P.S. Just in case any romantic soul wishes to listen to that very old
"birds and bees" teenie song, you can do so on this Chinese server:
http://202.130.1.29/zhangshibo/pen_voice/html/Jun1vol1.htm

 damsel of  the Court,
You have but to stay with us a while and all dreams (secret or otherwise)
might yet be met.
Hoping all is well in your part of the Realm,
We remain, as always, etc., ecc.,
Bambi
dtb

 Tsk back (and a kiss)
Dear soon-to-be Dottoressa H.S.W. Cristina,
As if ones days were not fraught enough, I now see that I am going to have
put time aside to teach my Labrador how to say at least on word in what is,
by all right, 'his' native speak, for verily, he hails from Bergamo. I
simply know in my heart though that I shall not succeed in reproducing the
accent.
Around the house, he is in the enviable position of having not one, but two
female canines be totally indifferent to his masculine prowess, and I can
have no doubt that were he able to come out with an appropriate 'Alura!?'
every now and then, he would feel much gratified (for certain it is he gets
little gratification anywhere else).
One shall endeavour to do ones best, but as he is generally referred to as a
'schemo bergamasco' dog, I am not overly hopeful. I hasten to add that no
disrespect is meant towards any from that part of the world, but were one
acquainted with the canine in question, on would be forced to agree that un
'pò schemo, è'. Sigh.
I remain  pedantically yours,
Bambi
dtb

 Good to see you back at the keyboard!
And it is good indeed to be able to be back.
Thank you.
I remain as always,
Bambi
dtb

 think this type of wally could apply to Cristina as well? :-)
Those are "Wilis", it seems, "ghosts of young girls who have been
jilted and have died before their wedding day; now they avenge
themselves by dancing to death any man whom they happen upon during
the hours of darkness".
Source: 
http://www.brb.org.uk/sg7.html
I doubt that I would enjoy encountering one of these on a dark night.
No incurable romanticism there.
---
Xakero

 might yet be met.
I'm honoured with your benevolence, Your Highness! :-)
Cinzia

 spiffier each day) of which he is the keeper.
That would be done as soon as the resident alien recalls the password he
used to access to the website.
Ahem.
Well, couldn't that happen to anyone?
I had it stuffed into the FTP program in order not to type it, and it went
to data heaven during one of the hundreds time I had to reinstall Winduh (or
backup the registry which is almost the same when a multibillionaire dope
force you to put all of your eggs in one single frail basket).
I will recover a file that will help me in reconstructing it, sooner or
later.
Anyway, the site has also been sort of abandoned by the webservant due to a
problem with his time machine. I hope to get the clock running at a slower
pace in order to find the time do do what I had already planned a long ago.
That is adding lots of links and all the material I have gathered from this
newsgroup, day after day.
Beinglately yours,
Peltio
RAW KISA (Resident Alien Webservant Knight etc. )

 No incurable romanticism there.
And rightly so! :-)
Cinzia

that was!)
Carissimo, ti ringrazio per la pubblicità, anche se devo confessare,
mio malgrado, che ai mondiali del 1998 arrivai solamente secondo(*). A
parte l'orgoglio ferito [:o))], mi accorgo improvvisamente che la
qualità del mio inglese sta vieppiù peggiorando, e mi rendo conto che
non so più come si dica "vice-campione" (sigh!). Qualcuno può
aiutarmi?
Ciao
Frank
(*) Siete ovviamente tutti invitati sin d'ora ai prossimi mondiali che
si svolgeranno in Belgio il prossimo settembre. Ho bisogno di tutto il
sostegno morale dei miei consudditi (?) per non far di nuovo
l'ingloriosa fine di Barrichello!
:o))