Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Capire battuta

Villain: No matter what you have endure, you never experinced the likes 
of what Anubis is capable of.
O'Neill: You enaded that sentence with a preposition! Bastard!
Scusate ma non la capisco?
E' solo stupida come sembra o c'e' sotto altro? XD
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Yatta!,
This is a test, please ignore, for God sake just ignore it, please.
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 Scusate ma non la capisco?
C'e una "regola" che la preposizione non si dovrebbe trovare
alla fine di una frase.
Percio` non si dovrebbe scrivere ".. the likes of what
Anubis is capable **of**". Si dovrebbe riformulare
la frase in qualche modo.
 
Antonio

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It sounds to me like you know what you're talking about.
Joe from Massachusetts

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Who are you talking to?  Antonio?  I read your post but I don't
understand where you are coming from.

 alla fine di una frase.
Sicuro? Io non ho mai sentito questa regola.
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Who are you siding with?
Joe from Massachusetts

 alla fine di una frase.
Premetto che io la grammatica inglese non la so, ma di frasi che 
finiscono con una preposizione ne ho sentite molte. Sei certo di questa 
tua affermazione?
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«It was John Dryden, the 17th-century poet and dramatist, who first
promulgated the doctrine that a preposition may not be used at the end a
sentence. Grammarians in the 18th century refined the doctrine, and the rule
has since become one of the most venerated maxims of schoolroom grammar.»
http://www.bartleby.com/64/C001/050.html
Joe from Massachusetts

 
http://www.bartleby.com/64/C001/050.html
Pero' poi dice:
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But sentences ending with prepositions can be found in the works of most 
of the great writers since the Renaissance. In fact, English syntax not 
only allows but sometimes even requires final placement of the 
preposition, as in We have much to be thankful for or That depends on 
what you believe in.
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Quindi e' una differenza tra il parlar aulico e il parlar volgare? 
(Volgare nel senso di lingua del volgo, del popolo.)
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Yatta!,
O'Neill: Do you read the Bible, Teal'c?
Teal'c : It is a significant part of your Western culture. Have you not 
read the Bible, O'Neill?
O'Neill: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Not all of it. Actually, I'm listening to it on 
tape. Don't tell me how it ends

 affermazione?
There is a "famous" funny birthday card: the outside of the card shows 
two pleasant-looking girls talking over drinks.
First girl: "Where's your birthday party at?"
Second girl: "Don't end a sentence with a preposition."
Open the card:
"Where's your birthday party at, *bitch*?"


http://www.bartleby.com/64/C001/050.html
- Excuse me, where's the library at?
- You know, you shouldn't really end your sentences with a
preposition.
- OK. Where's the library at, asshole?
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Isa
Work like you don't need money,
Love like you've never been hurt,
And dance like no one's watching
http://web.tiscali.it/alfabeto_auschwitz/index.htm

 alla fine di una frase.
...una "regola" secondo la quale/per la quale... 

 Antonio
ciao
Gennaro 


Everyone uses prepositions at the end of sentences.
Although we were taught in school to avoid prepositions at the end of
sentences, it is impossible to avoid doing so in many cases without
butchering the language.
"What are you talking about?".
"What have you gotten yourself into?"
"Who are you going with?"
Google these phrases and their alternate versions and you will see that the
preposition at the end dominates.
Joe from Massachusetts

Sicuro? Io non ho mai sentito questa regola.
Beh, la dimentica. It might have been a semi-rule
for some classes in the 1800s.
R.

 It sounds to me like you know what you're talking about.
That kind of comment is something up with which I will not put :-)
(And I did use quote marks as a hint ... :-))
Antonio

"Gennaro" <MC7...@MCLINK.IT.HELL> wrote in news:g2llut$2d75$1
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You've chopped the best bit:
"Mark Brader (
m...@sq.com
 -- all this is to the best of his
recollection; he didn't save the letter, and doesn't have access to
the British editions) wrote to Guinness, asking:  "What did you say
that the sentence with the most prepositions at the end was 'What
did you bring that book that I don't want to be read to from out of
about "Down Under" up for?' for?  The preceding sentence has one
more."  Norris McWhirter replied, promising to include this
improvement in the next British edition; but actually it seems that
Guinness, no doubt eventually realising that this could be done
recursively, dropped the category."
Antonio

 ...una "regola" secondo la quale/per la quale... 
It should be like crossing the road: write, read and write again,
but sometimes I just forget. Sorry.
Antonio
Poste in haste. Repent at leisure.

 read to from out of about 'Down Under' up for?"
"up for" sta con "bring", "to" con "read", "about" con "down under", ma 
"from out of"?
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
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I chitarristi passano metą della propria vita ad accordare la chitarra e 
l'altra metą a suonarla scordata.

 Mark Twain
LOL!
I came across this one in a book I had to read for my computer 
architecture course: "In Paris they simply stared when I spoke to them 
in French; I never did succeed in making those idiots understand their 
language."(Mark Twain)
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
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I chitarristi passano metà della propria vita ad accordare la chitarra e 
l'altra metà a suonarla scordata.

 "from out of"?
What did you bring
    that book 
        that I don't want to be read to 
            from 
                out of 
                    about 'Down Under' 
up  for
So "read to from" and "read to out of". It's a bit of
a stretch to have both of them in there. But given that
the entire sentence is a huge stretch, it's only a minor
issue!
Anyone care to have a go at a quick translation?
Bonus points for using a preposition to end the sentence with :-)
Antonio
 

 phrase.
Of such a day [do] I live in fear!
Antonio