Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Birth

Un film che fara' felici tutti i piccoli fans della Kidman 
;)
in americano e abbastanza facile.
Alcune questioncelle...
1) Nel film, ambientato a NYC, Nicole Kidman dice al bambino che pensa
di essere suo marito morto reincarnato, qualcosa come ho un piano, ci
sposeremo tra 11 anni, quando avrai 21 anni. Non bastano 18 anni?
2) Poi torna con il fidanzato e gli dice qualcosa come I wanna be
together with you. "be together" vale esattamente come il nostro
"stare insieme" ?
3) Quando parla con un amico del bambino che dice di essere Sean, il
marito defunto, i due dicono, riferendosi appunto al ragazzo, che e'
davanti a loro:
"That's Sean."
"No, it's not."
Notare l'uso di it e non he.
Questa non e' una domanda ma una constatazione. 
:-)

 Notare l'uso di it e non he.
Uhm, non è normale?
Per esempio per chiedere chi è alla porta mi pare si dica:
- Who is it?
- It's John
o
- Is it John?
- No, it's not
Sbaglio?
--
Lorenzo Castelli
E-Mail: 
gcas...@racine.ra.it

 :-)
Correct. Note this, however:
-That's Sean.
-No, it's not.
-Yes, it's Sean. He's very cool.
-No, he's not.
-This is my brother.
-No it isn't.
-Yes, he's my brother.
-No, he isn't!
-- 
This is my opinion of modern, colloquial, American English. 
If you feel the need to e-mail me, un-not my address first.

 -No, he isn't!
Ta!

 :-)
Heck no. You don't have to be an adult to marry!
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 Heck no. You don't have to be an adult to marry!
'to marry' or 'to get married'?
Hi
eleU

 :-)
You can marry without parental consent at 18, but you can't buy a
drink until you're 21, and you can't rent a car until you're 25.
Joe from Massachusetts

 drink until you're 21, and you can't rent a car until you're 25.
I remember I was in a Gristede's on the 8th buying a six pack of Bud. A
lovely girl wanted to see my I.D.. I didn't know the meaning of "eye dee".
:)
Anyway, I was 22, so I was allowed to buy that *dangerous* beverage! :)
Sebastiano

 drink until you're 21, and you can't rent a car until you're 25.
What about weapons?
Bye, FB
-- 
Io ho deciso di rifiutarmi di vederlo: Ettore con la faccia di Eric Banana
mi fa venire i conati.
(commento sul film "Troy" apparso su it.fan.scrittori.tolkien)

eleU ha scritto:
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Either is okay; "get married" might be more common, but I can't figure out
why: it's two words, where "marry" will do the same in one. :)
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 why: it's two words, where "marry" will do the same in one. :)
Maybe because after "marry" you usually find a noun or a pronoun.
I am going to marry her.
She will marry that dude.
Leela marries Fry. (now *that* would be something).
That doesn't mean that "you can marry when..." is wrong, but - maybe -
since you usually see the word "marry" with a noun/pronoun that follows it,
you are kind of expecting to see that noun or pronoun and not a period.
And, maybe, that affects your choice of words, and - almost without
thinking, you utter "when are you going to get married?" and "when are you
going to marry him/her?".
Who knows.
Sebastiano

 Maybe because after "marry" you usually find a noun or a pronoun.
My hunch is that "I'll marry soon" is too concise, so that's why
colloquially "I'll get married soon" may be commoner.
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 colloquially "I'll get married soon" may be commoner.
That could be. You really like the word "commoner", don't you? :)
Sebastiano

Sebapop ha scritto:
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Apparently, *you* do. :-D It sounds very logical to me.
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Sebapop ha scritto:
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Most commoners do. (Don't take that the wrong way, FB. You are FAR from
common.)
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" Weapons" covers a lot of territory.
In most "right-to-carry" States, you have to be 21, meet certain
requirements (no guns for the blind), and undergo some form of
training in order to carry a concealed weapon. These States actually
encourage the carrying of concealed weapons.
In other States, the local Chief of Police can issue a permit to carry
a concealed weapon, after he has determined that the applicant has met
the requirements, and at his discretion can deny a permit to anyone.
As far as hunting weapons are concerned, all firearms purchases
require a permit, and generally anyone over the age of 18 can own a
rifle or shotgun. There is a requirement that hunters complete a
safety course before they can receive a hunting license, and there are
restrictions on hunters below the age of 18, varying from State to
State.
Some States, because of population density, do not allow high-powered
rifles for hunting. In neighboring States like New Jersey and New
York, regulations are very different. It is illegal to hunt for deer
using a high-powered rifle in New Jersey. Deer hunters must use
shotguns and "slugs". Use of slugs requires that the hunter be fairly
close to the target if he wants to hit it.
In New York State, hunters can hunt deer using high-powered rifles,
which means they can be quite some distance from the target, making it
easier to kill a deer.
New Jersey has the highest density deer population in the United
States, because so many areas of the State prohibit hunting, due to
the proximity of deer populations to heavily populated suburban areas.
Joe from Massachusetts

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What about this phrase:
"Mr Jones married Mr Smith and Miss Taylor."
What difference between "to marry" and "to wed"?
-- 
Today no, tomorrow yes.

 common.)
I would hope so! When someone is talking to someone else about me, I want
him to say "I met a strange/peculiar/very handsome young man"; definitely
not "I met... a person...".
Bye, FB
-- 
Locked from the inside. That can only mean one thing, and I don't know what
it is.
(Murder by Death)

 not "I met... a person...".
"Peculiar" is not a compliment.
-- 
Mary

 "Mr Jones married Mr Smith and Miss Taylor."
--Hey! That's bigamy! (bigamy=big of me) 
--Big of YOU? No, it's big of THEM.
And, <drum roll>
What's the definition of a bigamist?
A fog over Italy.
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I know. Or rather, I know "particolare" can mean a lot of things:
- Com'era il film?
- Mah... particolaaare. (i.e. 'na stronzata de firm)
But I'm well aware understatement is your speciality (of the Brits, I
mean). So, do you think that a "ragazzo particolare" (no, this sounds bad
to me, too), that a "peculiar young man" is worse than a "persona
particolare/bizzarra"? What do you infer if someone tells you he's just met
a "peculiar young man"?
Bye, FB
-- 
Just as I thought. Another test that could have cost us our lives, saved
only by the fact that I am enormously well-bred.
(Murder by Death)

 a "peculiar young man"?
That the young man is really weird.
-- 
Mary

 colloquially "I'll get married soon" may be commoner.
My hunch is that it's because 'get married' has the company of similar
expressions that are on the receiving end of violence to the person, like
I'll get screwed, I'll get robbed, I'll get bored, and I'll get driven nuts.
Whereas when you think of marrying you don't think of 'I'll screw, I'll rob,
I'll bore, and I'll drive nuts. Well, come to think of it, there may some
gender differences at play here.
*** SPOILER***
The preceeding was just a cheap dip into the fetid cistern of stereotypical
humor within which our culture wallows and has no basis in fact or
experience but is only the tired expression of a desperate lack of
creativity. Fits in well, doesn't it?

Mary Cassidy ha scritto:
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Ditto.
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 creativity. Fits in well, doesn't it?
Fetid cistern... ew! But at any rate it was very apt; I was trying to think
of a way to say just what you said, but couldn't come up with. :)
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 common.)
Indeed. :)
Sebastiano

 creativity. Fits in well, doesn't it?
Yep. :)
Sebastiano

 A fog over Italy.
ROTFLMAO!
Sebastiano

"Mary Cassidy" <ma...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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More likely an understatement.  :>)
Joe from Massachusetts

joscurtin ha scritto:
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LOL. He's WAY too modest.
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 one. :)
'Peggy Sue got married' would be the same of 'Peggy Sue married'?
Hi
eleU

 What difference between "to marry" and "to wed"?
Nessuna, I suppose, solo 'to marry' mi pare più riflessivo di 'to wed'.
'To marry' si potrebbe forse tradurre con 'maritarsi', oltre che con
'sposarsi'.
(N.d.R.: 'maritarsi' è arcaico, ma in molti dialetti, quindi nel
linguaggio comune, si usa ancora)
Wedding è l'atto, la cerimonia del matrimonio. Esiste anche un
sostantivo derivato da 'to marry'?
eleU

 sostantivo derivato da 'to marry'?
Ma certo, "marriage". Wedding č la cerimonia nuziale, marriage č il
matrimonio che ne consegue.
Sebastiano

 matrimonio che ne consegue.
Noto ora che la parola "marriage" l'hai usata, quindi la conoscevi.
"Marrying" esiste, ma solo come verbo o, al limite, come aggettivo. Vedi
"The Marrying Man" con Kim Basinger e Alec Baldwin. Anche se mi sa che
forse sia meglio non vederlo. :)
Anyway, il sostantivo č "marriage". Spero di aver capito bene la domanda.
Sebastiano

 domanda.
Ops! Merito una bella bacchettata sulle dita!
(sono un bel po' arrugginita, si vede?)
Ciao, thank you
eleU

 years, till he is 21, to get married.
Maybe she wants to drink Cristal with her hubby on their wedding day.
Sebastiano

 anche un sostantivo derivato da 'to marry'?
-- 
Today no, tomorrow yes.

 Joe from Massachusetts
Still I don't get why NK says to the boy that they will have to wait
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