Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: ...give the book back o anche give back the book

Un saluto a tutti
Vorrei sapere se oltre a dire ad esempio: "...give the book back..." si può 
dire "... give back the book...". 

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Si', si puo', ma se usi il pronome al posto del sostantivo, devi
mettere il pronome tra give e back -> give it back.
bye

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Aggiungo:
"I'll give it to you" o "I'll give it you" (solo GB, credo)
"I'll give it back to you" o "I'll give it you back" (solo GB, credo)
L'ho appreso recentemente su a.u.e.
Ciao, FB
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"It", which is a battery-powered two-wheel people mover. Many believe it
will completely revolutionize the way people get hit by cars.
(Saturday Night Live)

Really?  I've never heard "I'll give it you".  As you say, it must be
British English.

 British English.
It is, but it's very ungrammatical.
-- 
Mary

 L'ho appreso recentemente su a.u.e.
No, e' sbagliato, tanto in GB quanto in tutto il mondo.
Si potrebbe tuttavia sentire raramente in maniera colloquiale ma sbagliata,
come ad es. "gimme it" anziche' "give it to me".
P.S. what's a.u.e.?

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QUOTE ("Practical English Usage", M. Swan, OUP)
*583 verbs with two objects*
[...]
*3     two pronouns*
When both objects are pronouns, it is common to put the indirect object
last. /To/ is occasionally dropped after /it/ in informal British English.
Lend *them to her*.
Send *some to him*.
Give *it (to) me*.
[...]
UNQUOTE
And here's the thread I referred to: 
http://snipurl.com/dj73
Ciao, FB
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 P.S. what's a.u.e.?
alt.usage.english (and there's also alt.english.usage).
Sebastiano

 Give *it (to) me*.
Don't do it, FB - it makes people sound really ignorant.
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Mary

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It's curious, though: Michael Swan doesn't ever seem to deal with anything
like a border-line case, with very colloquial forms (without warning, to
boot). His is a rather conventional manual in this respect. Of course, I
believe you, and I won't use that construction.
Bye, FB
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 believe you, and I won't use that construction.
On another note, could I have written "M. Swan doesn't ever seem to deal
with anything something like a border-line case"? I recently heard such
construction, and rather like it. 
Bye, FB
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"Does five hundred dollars interest you?"
"Very much."
"Then bring it: it's an expensive restaurant".
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believe you, and I won't use that construction.
It would sound like that you are demanding that someone gives it to
you.

 you.
"Give me it" and "give it me" are both demands, but the first one is
grammatical, whereas the second one isn't.
-- 
Mary

 with anything something like a border-line case"? 
No.
-- 
Mary

Giò
A man has dreams of walking with giants,
to carve his niche in the edifice of time.
Before the mortar of his zeal
has a chance to congeal
the cup is dashed from his lips,
the flame is snuffed aborning.

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It must be American, possibly very recent, or maybe I misused it, or just
made it up.
Bye, FB
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If you knock on my door and I call out "Who is it?", you, as a normal
person, knowing that I would recognize your voice, would say "It's me". If
you said "It is I", I would not be nearly so inclined to let you in.
(Geoffrey K. Pullum - 
http://snipurl.com/bhtu
)

 made it up.
Two of those are correct...
-- 
Mary

I've never heard "anything something" either.  I must lead a very
sheltered existence.
bye
Ari

 sheltered existence.
I don't know. (smiling face) Anyway, I'm pretty sure I've heard it, so I'll
ask a.u.e.
Bye, FB
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"Luca" <lucky1...@Mvirgilio.it> ha scritto nel messaggio 
news:d1h8gu$hhb$2...@domitilla.aioe.org...
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Riposto la frase completa:
I must give the book back next week
Io mi chiedevo invece se si potesse dire:
I must give back the book next week
O un'altra:
Keep your head down, the door is very low
in:
Keep down your head, the door is very low
 


a.u.e. - another unsuspecting englishspeaker?
Joe from Massachusetts


It could make sense, in a way, in a sentence like:
"Why is anything something to be concerned about?"
It is grammatically correct, but I'll leave it to you to figure out
the meaning.
Joe from Massachusetts

 the meaning.
Maybe "Why should we be concerned about anything?"?
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 a.u.e. - another unsuspecting englishspeaker?
Alt.usage.english.
Bye, FB
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