Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: program or programme?

salve,
dovrei tradurre "programmare un computer" in B.E.
So che programmare è "to programme" in BE e "to program" in AE ma un 
dizionario Hoepli mi da "to program a computer" come BE...sapete se è a 
causa del significato specifico?
Grazie mille
cris
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 causa del significato specifico?
L'OED da` "to program" per programmare un computer, e
"program" per il program.
Antonio

 cris
Mai sentito "to programme". Ho invece letto svariate volte "Programme 
manager" come ruolo di lavoro, ma quello e' un altro contesto e ha poco 
a che fare con quello che tu chiedi.
Quindi "to program" senza la minima incertezza.
Fabio

 Grazie mille
Prego 0x1000
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Cingar

 completamente soppiantato quella britannica "programme".
A me risulta che in inglese britannico sia così da sempre (o almeno, 
dagli albori dell'informatica): la regola è che si usa "program" in 
contesti informatici, ma "programme" in tutti gli altri casi.
Negli Stati Uniti invece scrivono sempre e solo "program".
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Tchau, -João do Sabão

 Negli Stati Uniti invece scrivono sempre e solo "program".
Vero. E non solo in senso informatico.
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Cingar

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Of course. After all, who built the first cpu?
Kiuhnm

 Ari
A program is a software, a piece of software or both?
Kiuhnm

 Of course. After all, who built the first cpu?
A German?

 A German?
If you are thinking of von Neumann, please note that he was Hungarian. ;-)
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 A program is a software, a piece of software or both?
You might want to drop that article before "software".
:-)
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
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 If you are thinking of von Neumann, please note that he was Hungarian. ;-)
I was thinking of Zuse.
Does Turing beat von Neumann?

 If you are thinking of von Neumann, please note that he was Hungarian. ;-)
Nella macchina di von Neumann la "cpu" era divisa in due: control unit e 
  ALU. Would you still call it cpu?
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You're right, but I was thinking of the modern CPUs.
Kiuhnm

 :-)
Therefore your answer is "a piece of software".
Kiuhnm

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Actually, the first "modern" CPU (i.e. based on microprocessor) was the
Intel 4004 in 1971 and was designed by Federico Faggin... after he moved
to the States, of course! (he was born in Vicenza and graduated in
Padua). See 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federico_Faggin
 and 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_4004
Marco

 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_4004
Some things never change.
Kiuhnm

 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_4004
Close, but no cigar.
http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-
people/200205/msg00072.html.
Antonio

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Surely his answer is:
 "A program is software" (or both)
Antonio

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A lot of Italians say "Ho appena scritto *un* software che...".
Every dictionary clearly says that "software" is uncountable in English, 
but I preferred to ask.
Kiuhnm

 Blaise Pascal?
Hey, you left Leibniz out!
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
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l'altra metà a suonarla scordata.

 "A program is software" (or both)
I think there is a distinction.
Here's a program (in Python)
x = 5
if x < 0:
  print "true"
else:
  print "false"
This does nothing in this form, nor did it when it was 
still in my head - but it was still a program. It only 
becomes software when it is presented in a form usable
by a computer to get the correct answer, which should be 
printing "false" to standard output. If it was copied to
a .py file, that file would be software as well as a 
program.
I know I'm splitting hairs; but if there is a difference,
that is it.
R.