Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: capish?

Il commissario della serie "the Simpsons" lo dice spesso, in luogo di 
"do you understand?". Immagino sia un regalo dei paisà immigrati, ma in 
America lo dicono davvero, anche oltre la cerchia di Little Italy 
(ammesso che esista ancora Little Italy)?
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 (ammesso che esista ancora Little Italy)?
Non lo so, ti posso solo dire che si sente spesso nella saga del 
padrino, probabilmente si ispirano più alla mitologia cinematografica 
che alle realtà...ma è solo un'ipotesi.
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 (ammesso che esista ancora Little Italy)?
Il tuo orecchio italiano ti traduisce. Dicono invece 'gabish?, non si 
sente il 'c' o il 'p'. L'uso non č ben diffuso, ma anche una minoranza 
della gente che non č delle origini italiane conosce il termine dai 
film. Purtroppo, l'uso del termine ha un aria di minaccia a causa dei 
film come Il Padrino.

 sente il 'c' o il 'p'.
Il mio orecchio meridionale, perché "gabish" è più o meno (semplifico) 
come un meridionale pronuncia "capish" :)
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Just about everyone I know would understand this term, and would have been 
doing so long before The Simpsons came along.
I have a Jewish neighbor who uses it all the time.
-- 
Joe/Joey in New York

 
By the way, it's usually spelled "capeesh" in "English."
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/capeesh
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 (ammesso che esista ancora Little Italy)?
Yeah, Little Italy in the Bronx (not the one in Manhattan) seemed pretty 
authentic to me. Cars were even parked in "seconda fila"! (*)
:-D
(*) How should I say it in English?
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

 (ammesso che esista ancora Little Italy)?
Una volta lo trovai in SimCity 3000 (ma scritto "capeesh"), se non 
ricordo male.

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"Double-parked."
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 (ammesso che esista ancora Little Italy)?
Lavoro con un canadese che ogni tanto, parlando in inglese, la butta lģ 
alla fine della frase. Quindi credo sia entrata nell'uso comune quando 
si vuole far vedere di sapere qualche parola in italiano.

 (*) How should I say it in English?
Nowadays, increasing numbers of the drivers of those double-parked cars 
on Arthur Avenue are arriving from a more Eastern origin, like Croatia.

 I have a Jewish neighbor who uses it all the time.
It's a common word for a New Yorker. They'd even know what someone meant 
if the person said "I schieve that!" (penso che venga dalla parola 
'schifo') However, if you said some facsimile of 'gabish/capish' in Waco 
Texas, you might hear back, "say what?" And if you said 'ciao' you might 
be pointed in the direction of the nearest fast food diner. (Good Eats!)

 on Arthur Avenue are arriving from a more Eastern origin, like Croatia.
Huh. I just found it funny because I had never seen it anywhere else 
here in the US.
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

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I'm not a native NYer. It's not a term relegated to large cities: I've heard 
it in small towns as well, as well as on TV.
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Are you talking about Arthur Avenue in the Belmont neighborhood (the setting 
for the film "A Bronx Tale"), or the lesser-known Morris Park neighborhood, 
another Italian neighborhood just East of the Bronx Zoo, which was the 
setting for part of a major Italian film of a few years ago?
http://www.i-italy.org/bloggers/13259/uomini-e-simboli-su-morris-park-avenue
Well, maybe it wasn't quite a "major" film. :>)
Joe from Massachusetts

 Well, maybe it wasn't quite a "major" film. :>)
Nice! Didn't know about that!
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.


Arthur Avenue is a bit of a walk from the "D" train subway stop on the Grand 
Concourse.
If you had had a Metro Pass, you could have taken a bus from the subway 
station across Fordham Road.
Unless you were walking at two in the morning, I don't think the passers-by 
on Fordham Road would have been all that "shady".There are quite a few 
students from Fordham University in that area.
Another very small Italian community is located in East Harlem, centered 
around the church of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel.
http://www.eastharlemgiglio.com/about_us.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/medny/rocchio.html
Joe from Massachusetts 

 around the church of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel.
I believe there's another church with that name around Arthur Avenue in 
the Bronx, I remember going in there.
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

 passers-by were a little bit too shady to ask them for directions. Really.
What is "Zero Otto Nove" near Arthur ave.? (I think it's a restaurant, 
there are fork and knife on Google's map). I see a "Casa della 
Mozzarella", too ;-)
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 passers-by were a little bit too shady to ask them for directions. Really.
What is "Zero Otto Nove" near Arthur ave.? (I think it's a restaurant,
'Na pizzeria.
http://www.yelp.com/biz/trattoria-zero-otto-nove-bronx
there are fork and knife on Google's map). I see a "Casa della
Mozzarella", too ;-)
http://www.yelp.com/biz/casa-della-mozzarella-italian-deli-bronx
Joe from Massachusetts 

 
http://www.yelp.com/biz/casa-della-mozzarella-italian-deli-bronx
So, if one day I came to NY, I know what will be my favorite places :)
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http://www.yelp.com/biz/casa-della-mozzarella-italian-deli-bronx
So, if one day I came to NY, I know what will be my favorite places :)
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I hope you're not as paranoid as someone else we know, and won't be taken 
aback by the large number of "shady" Quisqueya and Borinquen people who live 
in the adjacent areas.
And don't ever ask any of the Italian merchants if they have to pay "'o 
pizzo". It is a very sensitive subject, and could land you in trouble.
Joe from Massachusetts

 pizzo". It is a very sensitive subject, and could land you in trouble.
Feel like home :)
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