Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Quali giornali liberamente scaricabili?

Ho appena scoperto che il New York times cartaceo  è possibile scaricarlo
solo a pagamento.
E mi è venuto in mente che in italiano esistono invece giornali liberamente
consultabili in rete anche nella loro versione cartacea(forse con alcune
limitazioni).
Ad esempio, per chi sta imparando l'italiano potrebbe essere utile sapere
che su 
http://ilmattino.caltanet.it/
 a partire dalle 12.00(ecco la
limitazione) di ogni giorno è possibile leggere la stessa versione presente
in edicola.
Esiste qualcosa del genere negli USA?(faccio fatica a credere di no)
Grazie anticipate per eventuali link.

Try the San Francisco Chronicle:
www.sfgate.com
 and click on "Today's Chronicle" on the left.
It's not that good of a newspaper, but if you are reading it to improve
your English I guess it will do.
Why can't you read the NY Times that's on line?
bye
Ari


As far as I know, the only Italian newspaper which can be downloaded
completely without any payment in exactly the same format in which it
is available on Italian newsstands is the "Giornale di Brescia", which
is available daily, and can be downloaded in pdf format, one page at a
time. If you had a printer capable of printing the large (~14" x 20")
pages, you could recreate the newspaper at home. Archives can also be
downloaded. I download the newspaper almost every day, using an
automated procedure I have worked out (requiring Adobe Acrobat full
version software and a Word Processor for creating html files). I
capture the entire newspaper, usually about 40 or 50 pages, into one
single pdf file, and then browse it at my leisure.
Previously, "L'Arena" from Verona, "Brescia Oggi" from Brescia, and
"Il Giornale di Vicenza" from Vicenza were available without cost in
pdf format, but now a fee must be paid in order to download the pdf
versions. The newspaper "Metro" which is distributed free in Italy is
also available for download in many different editions in pdf format,
but it is not really a full-fledged newspaper.
The newspaper "Il Foglio" can also be downloaded, page-by-page, but
although it may be interesting "A Noi" it may not be interesting for
people of all political persuasions.  :>)
If you know of any other Italian newspapers which can be downloaded in
pdf format, I would appreciate learning about them.
Joe from Massachusetts

Here is another list, but I don't think any of them are in pdf.
http://www.angelfire.com/il/noslo/page5.html
Bye
Ari


For a while, the Los Angeles Times was available free on the Internet
in pdf format, but they, too, have gone the route of paid
subscriptions.
Joe from Massachusetts

Giņ
A man has dreams of walking with giants,
to carve his niche in the edifice of time.
Before the mortar of his zeal
has a chance to congeal
the cup is dashed from his lips,
the flame is snuffed aborning.


This site allows you to view pdf files on-line (no downloads) of a
number of newspapers in the US, but I have never spent enough time on
the site to allow me to figure out how to navigate the site.
http://www.pressdisplay.com/pressdisplay/viewer.aspx
Joe from Massachusetts

Giò
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Is that the only article you read?   Well, what can I say?  This is San
Francisco.  Same sex marriages have been at the forefront of public
attention for a while now.  I don't know how this issue will get
resolved, but I know it's not going to go away.  At this point the
courts are still trying to determine whether these marriages are
constitutional.  
bye
ari


Non lo sapevo.
Per la prima pagina sola, meglio questo.
La prima pagina di 334 giornali in 33 paesi, in formato pdf,
"downloadabile":
http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/
Joe from Massachusetts

Is that the only article you read?   
No. It's just one thing it aroused my curiosty. I hadn't (yet?) read
the article, though.
I hadn't yet read any_ article, in fact :))
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 pdf format, I would appreciate learning about them.
Eccone 2 di mia conoscenza! Entrambi 'a gratis' ;-)
Il primo è... proprio il primo! Nel senso che è il primo quotidiano
'cartaceo' (i.e. newspaper) che ha debuttato sul Web (1994) in Italia.
http://www.unionesarda.it
Incredibile no? Però è vero... qui sotto un pò di storia
http://digilander.libero.it/mogent1/cm2/temi/12quotidiani/Storia.htm
L'altro è invece recentissimo e forse ancora un pò acerbo come giornale...
ma ottimo per chi non vuole perdere troppo tempo a leggere un articolo
(articoli brevi!) - Tra l'altro nell'edizione odierna si parla proprio del
fatto che internet in Italia partì da qui, cioè da un' isola tutto sommato
un pò arretrata.
http://www.gds.li
(Curiosa la foto in prima pagina, no?)
Ciao,
-d

 see is a jpg image of the front page, which is illegible. 
It's very strange, I can visit that site without problems...
Has anyone problems with it?
 

 bye
La cosa è un un pò contorta:
Uso quasi esclusivamente Linux, soprattutto con internet.
Ora siccome ho un dizionario Zanichelli in formato elettronico che
funziona solo su Windows(qui si aprirebbe un discorso sul fatto che windows
crei una
dittatura informatica, ma questo non è il luogo adatto...),  per
comodità(non ho una connessione
permanente) sarebbe bello poter scaricare un giornale in formato pdf per poi
leggere il file  su Windows e sfuttare il dizionario.
Tutto qui :-)
Ciao.

 Has anyone problems with it?
I don't suppose the sentence works as you have it. It works grammatically,
but not idiomatically, I think.
Ciao, FB
-- 
"Suppose I say I'm not interested."
"Does five hundred dollars interest you?"
"Very much."
"Then bring it: it's an expensive restaurant".
(The Cheap Detective)

but not idiomatically, I think.
It sounds wrong to me.
"Has anyone had problems with it?"
"Has anyone experienced problems with it?"
"Has anyone had any problems with it?"
....sound OK.
I'd include "else" in this case, meaning: other than Joe.
"Has anyone else had problems with it?"
(The site works fine for me btw)

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Maybe because it was a holiday that day, the site wasn't functioning
properly  when I first visited it.
I revisited the site today, and now I can see the pages, but not in
"pdf" format. The pages are in the same "pdf-preview" format which is
used by subscription newspapers to allow non-subscribers to view their
pages, without allowing them to view the files as a whole, or to
download them. This is not quite the same as true pdf format. Only the
separate "TV" and "Per Chi Parte" sections, which are in actuality
pages 18 and 42 of today's newspaper, are in pdf format, in order to
make the pages usable and legible.
In additon, the archives are in html format, unlike the archives of
the newspapers which make the complete pdf version of their archives
available.
This pdf-preview format does have the advantage of showing the full
page as it is printed, giving the feel of a "real" newspaper, but does
not allow the reader to browse the entire paper and zoom in on small
text, nor does it include pages of advertisements, which add, at least
for me, an additional local feel to the newspaper.
Joe from Massachusetts

 but not idiomatically, I think.
Grazie ragazzi.
Credo di essere nella fase "mi manca più il lessico che la
grammatica" :-)

 Hai provato a vedere se funziona con wine?
Si, ma con scarsi risultati...magari ci riprovo con più calma.
Il fatto però è che con wine nella migliore delle ipotesi i programmi girano
lentissimi...quindi preferisco(quando costretto ad usare un programma
windows) uscire da Linux e riavviare su Windows.
p.s.
Che bello incontrare linuxari in ng non pertinenti.
Siamo così pochini....

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I have often thought about trying Linux, but my Adobe Acrobat (full
version, not the Reader), works only on Win and Mac operating systems,
although there is a Linux version of the free Adobe Reader which does
work on Linux.
Joe from Massachusetts

windows) uscire da Linux e riavviare su Windows.
Puoi risolvere con un programma tipo httrack che scarica interi siti
web, per poi leggerli comodamente offline. Così puoi scaricarti interi
siti in inglese sotto linux e leggerli sotto windows
www.httrack.com
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Sviti

 
www.httrack.com
Una cosa del genere già la facevo con "wget -m" ma oltre che scomoda è
troppo dispensiosa(connessione 56k)
Insomma la cosa preferibile sarebbe sempre poter scaricare un singolo file(magari
compresso) che contenga il giornale.
Grazie cmq, darò sicuramente un'occhiata a questo httrack.