Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Piccoli esercizi di traduzione 2 (principiante)

Gli esercizi sono come quelli che ho giò mandato: io traduco,
voi correggete.
Se c'è ne bisogno, non vi limitate alla semplice correzione delle frasi ma
spiegatemi anche perchè è sbagliata la mia traduzione.
Gli argomenti sono: Past simple, present continuos.
1)Sto leggendo Oliver Twist.
I'm reading Oliver Twist.
2)Arriva il treno.Andiamo!
It is arriving the train.Let's go!
3)Loro non sono in piedi.Sono seduti.
They aren't standing.They are sitting.
4)Dov'è Tom? E' a letto, ma non dorme.
Where's Tom?He is in bed, but he isn't sleeping.
5)Stiamo imparando il present continuos.
We are learning the present continuos.
6)Ann e Jim stanno lavando la macchina.
Anna and Jim are washing the car.
7)Che fa Bill?Sta lavorando?
What's Bill doing?Is he working?
8)Ti senti bene?Perchè piangi?
Are you feeling well?Why are you crying?
9)Dove andate?Perchè correte?
Where are you going?Why are you running?
10)Sta studiando tuo fratello?No è fuori.
Is your brother studying? No, he is out.
11)Perchè Tim porta il cappotto?Non fa freddo.
Why is Tim wearing the coat? it isn't cold.
12)Che fanno quelle persone?Stanno aspettando l'autobus.
What are those people doing?They are waiting the bus.
13)Mi piaccion i videogiochi.
I like videogames.
14)A Franco piace Mozart.
Franco likes Mozart.
15)Guardiamo spesso la televisione.
We often watch television.
16)Jim non viaggia mai in aereo.
Jim never travels in airplane.
17)Rita va sempre al lavoro in macchina.
Rita always goes to work by car(oppure andrebbe bene anche "in car"?)
18)Di solito fanno colazione alle 8.00.
They usually have breakfast at 8 o'clock
Questa è quella che ho imparato dal libro, ma non andrebbe bene una più
letterale:
They usually does breakfast at 8 o'clock
Grazie anticipate, e alla terza puntata! :-)
Ciao.

 They usually does breakfast at 8 o'clock
Chi ti dice che "fare colazione" si traduca "to do breakfast"? Non è mica
scontato. (faccina sorridente)
fare colazione ==> to have breakfast
Cerca di imitare ciò che ti suona bene, ciò che hai letto o sentito.
 
Ciao, FB

They aren't standing.They are sitting.
Questo č non torto ma piů comunemente detto č: (<-- questo č
corretto?)
"they're not standing, they're sitting"

corretto?)
I think I should of wrote:
Questo non è torto ma più comunemente detto è ??

 They usually does breakfast at 8 o'clock
They e does non funzionano assieme: they do something.
Probabilmente lo sapevi e hai sbagliato nella foga di scrivere, vero??? :)
Ciao
--
Rocks


mmm... a livello grammaticale "The train is arriving" sembra buono ma
solitamente si usa" Here comes the train"
-- 
"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today.
 It's already tomorrow in Australia"
Charles M. Schulz

= should HAVE written
Ah Shaddap ;-) "Should've wrote" is what I should've wrote.. should've
written.
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 corretto?)
No.
To be wrong (person) = "avere torto" or "sbagliare".
To be wrong (thing) = "essere sbagliato".
Quindi avresti dovuto dire: "Questo non č sbagliato, ma sarebbe piů
comune dire: ...".
-- 
Mary


wrote:
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OK Thanks, One more thing more how to you pronounce
sbagliato? I'm ok with the "bag-glee-aah-toh" but is the "s" silent or
is it a short "s" sound?

is it a short "s" sound?
You need to add the s. It sounds almost like the z in zoo. And "glee"
is wrong. The "gl" sound is not as in glee, glue, etc. It's like how
some Spaniards pronounce the ll in ella. The stress is on the second
syllable: sba*glià*to. 
Sebastiano
-- 
No wonder people say "gesundheit" when you say "Tchaikovsky".

 syllable: sba*glià*to.
To simplify: zbal-YAH-to.
-- 
Mary

Sebastiano
I think I've got it zbag-lee-aah-toh, it doesn't have to be perfect,
I'm never going to sound Italian.
Thanks to you and everyone else helping me out here, I do realise that
the majority of my posts are off topic with respect to me trying to
learn Italian.

-AZ
Thanks


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Ho capito, grazie.

To simplify: zbal-YAH-to.
Avevo provato a coniare un robo simile, dopo averne cancellato tre ho
lasciato perdere. :)
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learn Italian.
You're not OT, don't worry about it.
Feel free to ask whatever you want about Italian and feel free to
correct anything we write. :)
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 Why is Tim wearing the coat? it isn't cold.
Why is Tim wearing a coat ? / Why is Tim wearing his coat ?
o forse piu commune Why has Tim got his coat on ? / What's Tim got his coat
on for ?
Mike

correct anything we write. :)
You must be joking!, you lot speak better English than me ;-)
A couple of things I've picked up in this group
"robo" = things, thingies?
 Che roba č? = what thing is it? (what's this thing?) corretto?
che cosa significa "manco" even?
Noi non abbiamo manco le zanzare
we don't have even the mosquitoes (we don't even have mosquitoes)
I noticed that a lot of Italian sentence structures are back to front
as to how they would be in English.

as to how they would be in English.
And viceversa. :)
Anyway, why are you studying Italian? School, work, ancestors, fiancé,
linguistic pleasure, a bet, whatever... :)
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 linguistic pleasure, a bet, whatever... :)
"Fiancée", I'd think.
Bye, FB

"Fiancée", I'd think.
Fiancé, Fiancée, whatever, I am no man to judge. ;)
Anyway, what I wanted to write was "fiancée" and not "fiancé", so
thanks for the correction. :)
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 Yeah, maybe you're right. Which dialect? 
Secondo il DeMauro è italiano, "colloq."
Secondo il Devoto Oli è italiano, "pop."
Secondo il Garzanti è italiano, "fam."
:-)
-- 
Ciao,
Anna

:-)
Secondo il Picchi è italiano, "popol". ;)
 av (popol) not even
¶ manco per idea! absolutely not! non lo farei manco se mi pagassi I
wouldn't do it even if you paid me.
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Si, è stato un errore di leggerezza, me ne sono accorto subito dopo rileggendo
il post...
Ciao.

 troppo comune nella maggior parte dei contesti.
Si, ma cosě non uso il Present Continuous! :-)
Grazie per gli aiuti.

linguistic pleasure, a bet, whatever... :)
Una bella ragazza! Be' that's what got me started. My cousin's friend
was Italian, well her dad was anyway so I thought if I learnt Italian
it would impress her.. it didn't but I still kept it up after I'd
forgotten about her. It was a BBC Series called "boungiorno Italian"
it consisted of a book and three cassettes.
I did lose interest for a long time but I've since had renewed
enthusiasm. As a job (per il mio lavoro?) I fit television & satellite
antennas. I've had a few Italian expats as customers wanting the Rai &
other various regional channels via satellite, It surprised me how I
could still remember words from my days studying the book. One
customer taught Italian at the local university, I got chatting with
him and just decided to give it another go. So "linguistic pleasure"
in a nutshell :-)

pear?'   So, I assumed "manco" was some bastardization of "neanche."
Never heard of that sentence, but yes, "manco" means "nanche" or
"nemmeno".
A famous sentence is "manco per il cavolo" (polite form). It means
"not a chance".
"Puoi fare questo?"
"manco per il cavolo"
"Can you do that?"
"Not a chance".
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(French restless students = restless students who are French)
So, I should say "Arab restless students" if I wanted to say "restless
students who are Arab", and "restless Arabic students" if I wanted to
say "restless students of Arabic".
"Arabic restless students" and "restless arab students" should be
wrong.
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in a nutshell :-)
Great. :)
I guess you've never been to Italy. It's marvellous to go abroad, in a
country where they don't speak your language, and be able to
understand what they say. Languages are the key to understand
different cultures.
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different cultures.
 I fully understand what you mean though the English language is quite
commonly spoken. When I went to Amsterdam I didn't meet one single
Dutch person that couldn't speak English.

Dutch person that couldn't speak English.
You're absolutely right. You can go anywhere you want with English. In
the north, it's even better. In Amsterdam, København, Stockholm, Oslo,
and other major cities of north Europe, English is *really* widely
understood.
Try doing that here. :)
When you're in the turistic places you'll find somebody speaking a
"li'l English", but try going to a local "trattoria", or to mingle in
the pubs. With English, normally, you can have only basic
communications.
Speaking English you visit the Country, speaking Italian, you
understand it. :)
The problem is that one can't really learn all the languages of the
world.
I've been to Paris, and I don't speak French. And, despite what many
Italians say about the ability of understanding French because of the
similarity between their language and ours, I don't understand French.
I managed to do whatever I needed to do because I speak English. Yes,
I do speak it as a second language, and I am far from perfect, but
it's enough to communicate. I am sure that if I were to learn French
and go back to Paris, I would enjoy the city in a different and more
profound way, being able not only to visit it, but to live it.
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 I don't know. Do you remember the name of the channel?
 
He means Colpo Grosso :-))
Are you too young to remember it? I don't think it's on any more.
The presenter was the awful Umberto Smaila.
-- 
Mary

The presenter was the awful Umberto Smaila.
How dare you! He's not that awful. :D
He's my fellow-citizen, you know. ;)
www.smaila.it
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 "Not a chance".
I seem to remember, from what little I knew of the Veneto dialect, the
use of "manco" and "massa" as opposites. Could you tell me how you
would say "There's no bread", and "There's plenty of bread" in the
Veneto dialect, using these two words?
Unfortunately, I have forgotten most of the dialect.
Joe from Massachusetts

Unfortunately, I have forgotten most of the dialect.
It happens. I don't speak dialect, and I live here. :) But I do
understand it, when it's not so "ancient".
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Certain words and phrases are embedded in my mind, even after many
years of not using them.
Gnanca. Cossa! Poenta. Desmentega. Osei. Uvi. Ovi. Pignata. Ombreta.
Goto. Tosa. Fia. Schei. Geto? Non ghe n'ho. Ghe ne go. Ciapar.
Ostregheta!  :>)
Joe from Massachusetts

Ostregheta!  :>)
Those words are in the Vicenza dialect.
gnanca.
I don't know what's "cossa!". If that's in "cossa uto?" - what do you
want - "I would have written 'sa, as in "'sa uto?" (what do you want?)
Polenta (without the l, poenta, is *really* vicentin. :)
Desmentegà, you forgot the accent. :)
Usei
Ovi. I don't know what's uvi.
pignata
ombreta, even though I don't know the meaning
goto
tosa, but we don't use it, we use butela
fiola istead of fia
schei
ghe n'eto? No non ghe n'ho. Ghe n'ho.
Ciapar
Ostregheta.
^_^
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Un-not my address if you wanna reply.

 
Sorry, that wasn't clear: the first part is incorrect, the second is 
correct (if you capitalize the A in Arab.)
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 fiola istead of fia
They used both in Vicenza.
May I ask why you don't use the dialect, even though you understand
it?
Grazie, "vecio" :>)
Joe from Massachusetts


http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/HellOrHeaven/Colpo%20Grosso.htm
I've set this as my homepage, thanks ;-))
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it's enough to communicate.
You're not far from perfect trust me, your English is excellent.
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 it?
You must be very keen on dialects!
Bye, FB

 written accents they have to deal with in French. :-)
I agree (capirai...). "French restless students" didn't sound very good to
my Italian ears.
Bye, FB

 Grazie, "vecio" :>)
Can you tell me where "còtoa" (or something like that) is used?
Bye, FB

Grazie, "vecio" :>)
You should have said "grasie". :)
Anyway, "prego", "vecio".
My mother uses to call my niece "veciazón", for fun. But nobody speaks
dialect to her (she's three years old).
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Can you tell me where "còtoa" (or something like that) is used?
It seems "skirt" (gonna) in the Vicenza dialect.
I would say "còtola". Well, I would say "gonna", but if I were to say
that in my dialect, I would say "cotola". :)
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 that in my dialect, I would say "cotola". :)
Even harder! A friend of mine heard "cotoéta", and she inferred it was a
"cotoletta" (it was a "gonnellina"). "Còtola" becomes "cotoléta", which
bears a greater resemblance with "cotoletta" *.
* La frase da "which" alla fine non mi convince affatto, ma non ho voglia
di consultare dizionari. Significa qualcosa?
Ciao, FB

Yes, to the first, No to the second.
Yes, because I mixed them. What I wanted to write was that "Arab
restless students" and "restless Arabic students" should be both
wrong.
Thanks for the explanation.
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I've set this as my homepage, thanks ;-))
You're welcome. :)
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You're not far from perfect trust me, your English is excellent.
Thanks, but you haven't *heard* me. ;)
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 Thanks, but you haven't *heard* me. ;)
Well, have you heard a Fwench?
Bye, FB

, FB says...
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Reminds me of the interview that Gilda Radner (of SNL), acting as Barbara 
Walters, did with Marlene Dietrich. She was speaking of her "lovely 
legs.:
Baba Wawa: (Barbara Walters): My, what wovewy wegs you have, Marwene. 
Weawwy!
None of this will make sense (non avra' senso; magare fara' senso :-) if 
you don't know Baba ... er, Barbara Walters' speech pattern.
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you don't know Baba ... er, Barbara Walters' speech pattern.
I also love another character of Gilda Radner, Rosanne Rosannadana. :)
I have an SNL tee with Mary Catherine Gallagher sniffing her figers.
"When I get nervous I stick my hands under my arms and smell them.
It's gross 'cause they smell so bad. It's dirty and bad. 
Sometimes when I get nervous I stick my fingers in my ears and then I
take...
^_^
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Do you a-talka-lika that ? ;-) that's the stereotypical way that
Italians are perceived to speak English over here. I've often wondered
what I sound like speaking Italian. I don't bother trying to roll my
"r"s.

"r"s.
You could be like "salvei, io sounou ingleisei". ;)
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LOL...................gag!
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