Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: london bridge

Ciao
sono nuova di questa ng ma mi pare molto interessante.
Leggendo TS Eliot (lo studio per conto mio, quindi se dico delle
banalità perdonatemi!), ho trovato una frase che mi ha colpito, v. 426
della Waste Land:
"London Bridge is falling down, falling down, falling down".
Grazie alle note, ho scoperto che si tratta di una canzone popolare
inglese, ma non dicevano altro. Sapreste indicarmi di che periodo è,
cosa dice il testo, dove la posso trovare?
 Grazie
Arianna

 wrote:
" "London Bridge is falling down, falling down, falling down".
" 
" Grazie alle note, ho scoperto che si tratta di una canzone popolare
" inglese, ma non dicevano altro. Sapreste indicarmi di che periodo è,
" cosa dice il testo, dove la posso trovare?
A quanto ricordo, e` una nursery rhyme, e fa
London Bridge is falling down, falling down, falling down,
London Bridge is falling down, my fair lady.
London Bridge is half built up, half built up, half built up,
London Bridge is half built up, my fair lady.
London Bridge is all built up, all built up, all built up,
London Bridge is all built up, my fair lady.
Serve anche la melodia?
ciao, .mau.

 wrote:

 London Bridge is falling down, my fair lady.
Keep it up with sticks and pins, sticks and pins, sticks and pins
Keep it up with sticks and pins, my fair lady......
Bambi, da dove viene questa strofa?  Mica me la sono inventata io per caso?
E' l'unica che mi ricordo.
ciao
Arianna (l'altra Arianna, non quella del messaggio originale)
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grazie a tutti!
Arianna (the original one) (nel senso di quella che ha scritto il
messaggio originale)

 Bambi
Much obliged!  thank you dear.
Arianna (the one in California)
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"old English dance tune."
The London Bridge is also a children's singing game in which there are
several players (eight or more), two of whom join hands high to form
an arch (the bridge). The other players march under the bridge, each
holding onto the waist of the player in front. Either the bridge or
all players sing the nursery rhyme that you posted ("London Bridge is
falling down", and so on). At the last word, the arms of the bridge
are lowered to capture the last player through. 
In the modern game, which dates back to 17th-century England and to
the 16th-century continental European "fallen bridges" games, as the
players are captured, they are kept in an area called the Tower of
London, and at the end of the game they are chased by the bridge. The
first two caught form the next bridge. In the earlier game, captured
players went to alternate sides, forming two teams, and a tug-of-war
followed. In the original game, each prisoner paid a forfeit.
The song has numerous variant stanzas, sung while the prisoners are
being captured, such as "Build it up with iron bars"; "Iron bars will
bend and break"; and "Get a man to watch all night." The name of the
game also varies in different locations: broken bridges (Scotland),
Die Goldene Bru"cke (Germany), Le Pont-Levis (France), and Charlestown
Bridge (New England).
Reference: Encyclopaedia Britannica.
Ciao
Ferdinando Chiodo


Grazie anche da parte mia per tutte le informazioni su
"London Bridge...." (ho già ringraziato Bambi).
Stampo subito il msg.
Ciao,
Dario.
ITA

 followed. In the original game, each prisoner paid a forfeit.
Sembra che queste "penitenze" fossero il ricordo dei sacrifici che, in
eta' precristiana, venivano fatti per la costruzione dei ponti.
Alex
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