Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Calico cat

Cari tutti,
sapete per favore dirmi che genere di "maculatura" ha un "calico cat"?
Dev'essere "spotted like calico", vale a dire...?
Grazie assai,
Anna
(I always wish I had time to post something more than questions... Mercy
mercy me, as the Marvin Gaye's song goes)

 2. An animal, such as a cat, having a coat that is mottled in tones of
white with red and black.
And I trust this answers your question.
Your post reminded me of a poem my father would recite at bedtime, and I
include it her 'for the good times' (G. Knight and Pips?)
==
The Duel
  by Eugene Field
The gingham dog and the calico cat
Side by side on the table sat;
'Twas half-past twelve, and (what do you think!)
Nor one nor t'other had slept a wink!
 The old Dutch clock and the Chinese plate
 Appeared to know as sure as fate
There was going to be a terrible spat.
 (I wasn't there; I simply state
 What was told to me by the Chinese plate!)
The gingham dog went " Bow-wow-wow!"
And the calico cat replied "Me-ow!"
The air was littered,an hour or so,
With bits of gingham and calico,
While the old Dutch clock in the chimney place
 Up with it hands before its face,
For it always dreaded a family row!
 (Now mind: I'm only telling you
 What the old Dutch clock declares is true!)
The Chinese plate looked very blue,
And wailed,"Oh dear! What shall we do!"
But the gingham dog and the calico cat
Wallowed this way and tumbled that,
 Employing every tooth and claw
 In the awfullest way you ever saw-
And oh! how the gingham and calico flew!
 (Don't fancy I exaggerate!
 I got my news from the Chinese plate!)
Next morning where the two had sat
They found no trace of dog or cat;
And some folks think unto this day
That burglars stole the pair away!
 But the truth about the cat and pup
 Is this: they ate each other up!
Now what do you really think of that!
 (The old Dutch clock, it told me so,
 And that is how I came to know.)
--
I remain, as always,
Bambi
dtb

 mercy me, as the Marvin Gaye's song goes)
Il gatto si chiama 'calico' anche in italiano, secondo la gattonomia
ufficiale.
Perņ il gatto a sua volta prende il nome dai disegni del tessuto indiano di
cotone  proveniente da Calicut.
In inglese tale tessuto si chiama 'calico', mentre in italiano si chiama
calicot (dal francese) o calicņ.
Vedi un po' tu se il contesto permette di operare una scelta fra gatto e
pezza di cotone.
Ciao
Giorgio

 Mercy mercy me, as the Marvin Gaye's song goes
Things ain't like they should be....
Si dice "as the Marvin Gaye song goes" o si dice "as Marvin Gaye's song goes."
"The song" but not "the Marvin Gaye."
Ciao,
Ron
USA

Grazie assai,
Cara Anna, non saprei spiegartelo, ma grazie ad "Highsight"
(Altavista ;o)) ) ho trovato le seguenti immagini
1) Secondo e terzo gatto dall'alto
http://www.bignest.com/otherpet.htm
2) Bel primo piano
http://www.viewimages.com/AltaVistaView.asp?imageid=189866&promotionid
=1&partnerid=2&type=results
Tuttavia a me pare piu' striato che "spotted", quindi c'e' qualcosa
che non mi convince...
Ciao
Frank

 mercy me, as the Marvin Gaye's song goes)
Ne possiedo una di persianina "calico" ovvero tricolore bianco, nero, rosso,
con tanto di pedigree!!!!! Il dizionario di Bambi ha ragione.
Ciao.
Marina

 Marina
Grazie a tutti, ora è come se quel gatto calico ce l'avessi qui accovacciato
sul computer...
Eeeet-ciùù!
Annallergica

 "The song" but not "the Marvin Gaye."
:-)
Oops.
Sempre grata per le correzioni, Ron.
Anna

ufficiale.
[...]
Egregio Sig. Buongiorgio,
non e' la prima volta, ahime', che in risposta ad una richiesta
dell'esimia Sig.ra Martini Lei mi batte in celerita' di pochi minuti.
Spero che Lei si renda conto di come cio' mi impedisca di esprimere la
mia naturale galanteria nei confronti della meravigliosa Sig.ra Anna.
Considero il suo atteggiamento un affronto al mio titolo di K.I.S.A.
(conservato, in verita', solo grazie alla bonta' d'animo di S.A.R.
Bambi), e La prego di considerarsi sfidato a singolar tenzone.
Il duello si svolgera' domenica 8 ottobre 2000, nella citta' di
Digione (Francia). Lascio ovviamente a Lei la scelta dell'arma
(sigaro, pipa, calumet, ecc. ecc. ecc.).
Distinti saluti
Turkey-KISA Frank

 Annallergica
What?????? For real????  Oh no!  then you can't come visit me! Carlene,
my calico, will be disappointed and so will Pippo and Clementina and
Little Pirate and Midnight and.....I'll stop here.
I just wanted to mention that there is also a "muted" calico (beige,
gray and white).
bye
Arianna
Sent via Deja.com 
http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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 gray and white).
I hope Carlene, Pippo and Clementina won't take my sneezing as an offence...
Blowing one's nose a little more often than usual is a small price to pay
for your - and their - company, so please do not worry about it. Besides,
mine is a light allergy and it varies according to the season and to the
cats, so, probably, your feline companions won't cause me any problem at
all.
See you all *very* soon!
Anna

 Arianna
Dear Arianna,
What is the difference fra un "calico" o un "tortiseshell"? We have cats
around here that remind me of Neapolitan icecream, splotches of ginger,
black and white and they're known as tortisehells. There may be other
colours, guess I'd better look at them more closely tomorrow.
cheers,
Loki

Loki <lo...@ASGARD.nz> a écrit dans le message :
82551320230023...@news.clear.net.nz...
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"Tortoiseshell" e "calico" vogliono dire la stessa cosa ma "calico" è
utilizzato negli USA.
Ciao
Marina

cotone proveniente da Calicut.
Se la traduzione fosse mia, io me ne fregherei della fedelta' e
metterei "Gatto di Calcutta". E' bellissimo e ricalca il Gatto del
Cheshire di Alice. 
(Lo so,lo so, non lo farai, ma il Gatto di Calcutta mi danza davanti
agli occhi da quando ho letto il post di Giorgio). 
Buonanotte,
-- 
Isa
Work like you don't need money,
Love like you've never been hurt,
And dance like no one's watching
http://web.tiscalinet.it/alfabeto_auschwitz/

metterei "Gatto di Calcutta". ...
Ma ovviamente, I forgot to say, in italiano l'ho anche sentito
chiamare "marmorizzato tricolore" se ti piace di piu' di calico'.
Baci,
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Is that grata as in 'grate' or 'grateful'.? ;-)
cheers,
Loki

 Marina
Grazie,
Interessante. I think of calico as mainly a creamy white such as in
calico cotton.
cheers,
Loki
-- 

 Side by side on the table sat;
[snip great poem]
Dear Bambi,
Thanks very much for that delightful poem. That's going into my
permanent files :-)
BTW You don't happen to have "Sir Brian Sir Brian as bold as a lion" do
you? I remember that (poorly) from my childhood.
Cheered,
Loki

 Turkey-KISA Frank
Caro Frank,
sono dolente che la mia velocità nel rispondere alle richieste, in
particolare a quelle del nostro meraviglioso Privy Counsellor, ti impedisca
di esprimere appieno la tua natura.
Del resto la tua natura è forse quella della lentezza, Frank, sei un
campione di
lentezza internazionalmente conclamato e acclamato, vivi in una delle
trentatrè citta italiane dichiarate ufficialmente 'città lente', per
esaltarne la qualità della vita s'intende.
E, in opposizione a ciò, la mia (supposta) rapidità.
Vedi, dunque, che ci muoviamo in categorie differenti e opposte.
Solleva perciò in me qualche perplessità l'invito a singolar tenzone sul
terreno della lentezza, che è squisitamente tuo.
Apprezzo il contrappasso che qui applichi, un eccesso di rapidità dev'essere
sanato tramite un esercizio di lentezza, ma ritengo francamente di non avere
più possibilità in questa tenzone di quante ne avesse Galvano delle Isole
(Gawain) con il Cavaliere Verde (match di ritorno, ovviamente).
Quindi, se lo ritieni, allontana da me questo amaro calabash.
Ciao
Giorgio
P.S. Se ti dico che avevo già dato una prima risposta privatamente a Anna,
per cui ti ho anticipato di un'ora e non di pochi minuti, cambia qualcosa ?
:-)

 chiamare "marmorizzato tricolore" se ti piace di piu' di calico'.
Bbellissimo!
Aggiudicato.
Thanks & Hugs
Anna

Is that grata as in 'grate' or 'grateful'.? ;-)
And this is Loki, ladies and gentlemen... back with a vengeance!
LOL, bye
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 you? I remember that (poorly) from my childhood.
Dear Loki,
Please am I to learn that 'The Duel' was able to cheer at least one within
the Realm.
Being the greatest admirer of Winnie "Ther" Pooh, and all of A.A. Milne's
works, I enclose the following for you in the hopes that fond childhood
memories might be evoked and hoping it is the poem to which you refer. I am
only sorry I am unable to include Mr Shepherd's (sp) wonderful
illustrations.
Bad Sir Brian Botany
by A.A.Milne
Sir Brian had a battle-ax with great big knobs on.
He went among the villagers and blipped them on the head.
On Wednesday and on Saturday,
 Especially on the latter day,
He called on all the cottages and this is what he said:
"I am Sir Brian!" (Ting-ling!)
"I am Sir Brian!" (Rat-tat!)
"I am Sir Brian,
"As bold as a lion!
"Take that, and that, and that!"
Sir Brian had a pair of boots with great big spurs on;.
A fighting pair of which he was particularly fond.
On Tuesday and on Friday,
Just to make the street look tidy,
He'd collect the passing villagers and kick them in the pond.
"I am Sir Brian!" (Sper-lash!)
"I am Sir Brian!" (Sper-losh!)
"I am Sir Brian,
"As bold as a Lion!
"Is anyone else for a wash?"
Sir Brian woke one morning and he couldn't find his battle-ax.
He walked into the village in his second pair of boots.
He had gone a hundred paces
When the street was full of faces
And the villagers were 'round him with ironical salutes.
"You are Sir Brian? My, my.
"You are Sir Brian? Dear, dear.
"You are Sir Brian
"As bold as a lion?
"Delighted to meet you here!"
Sir Brian went a journey and he found a lot of duckweed.
They pulled him out and dried him and they blipped him on the head.
They took him by the breeches
And they hurled him into ditches
And they pushed him under waterfalls and this is what they said:
"You are Sir Brian -- don't laugh!
"You are Sir Brian -- don't cry!
"You are Sir Brian
"As bold as a lion --
"Sir Brian the Lion, goodbye!"
Sir Brian struggled home again and chopped up his battle-ax.
Sir Brian took his fighting boots and threw them in the fire.
He is quite a different person
Now he hasn't got his spurs on,
And he goes about the village as B. Botany, Esquire.
"I am Sir Brian? Oh, no!
"I am Sir Brian? Who's he?
"I haven't any title, I'm Botany;
"Plain Mr. Botany (B.)"
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 by A.A.Milne
I'm planning to open a section of the Realm's website dedicated to this sort
of thing.
Can I incurr in some sort of copyright infringement?
saluti,
Peltio

 Can I incurr in some sort of copyright infringement?
Dear Peltio,
I find your idea to be a most excellent one and would be interested to
elicit from you, at your convenience of course, a slightly clearer
understanding of what comprises 'this sort of thing'.  On the other hand, I
am totally clueless with regard to copyright infringement but am hopeful
Buongiorgio or some other kind soul might have the answer.
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 Shepherd's (sp) wonderful illustrations.
Thank you so much. Yes those illustrations were great. It was a little
blue book "When we were six." and of course I'd forgotten who the author
was, it was a long time ago, last century in fact.
Cheers,
Loki

 Thank you so much. Yes those illustrations were great
[....]
Dear Loki,
Should you wish, I could send you the illustrations in e-mail. You have but
to say the word.
Now, kindly desist from tinkering with your software. At once!
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 Peltio
Dear Peltio,
copyright is not exactly my field, but I received a kind invitation from HRM
Bambi, so I will try to deal with the matter.
First, if you read the laws and books regarding Internet and copyright, you
conclude that if it is better if you use materials fully of your own
property, texts, drawings, and, possibly, it is also better to invent a
personal language, so no one can say that holds a right on some word you
say.
More seriously, the reproduction of  works in a newsgroup, for what I know,
could be allowed under art. 70 Legge sul diritto d'autore, that allows
reproduction of works, part of the works, resuming or quoting, for the
purpose of critcs and discussion. This corresponds more or less to fair use
discipline in U.S. law (David Krupp, please don't smite me :-)).
Being the Realm's website an extension of this newsgroup, I would be
inclined to say that the inclusion of Bad Sir Brian Botany, although
protected till 2026, and some other selected pieces from the newsgroup, is
allowed.
Could be allowed, I would be inclined..., I can hear you grinning, but the
principle is clear, your use must not damage the right of the author to make
money with his works. The problem with the enormous diffusion and mechanisms
of the Web is that you can always find some support to say that there is a
damage.
If I want to have the lyrics of Simpathy for the Devil, there is no need for
me to buy a booklet entitled 'The Stones and the Devil. Selected satanic
songs", since I can just use Google or the like to retrieve the lyrics that
SE (Stefano) has posted yesterday on this newsgroup (BTW, by now he has been
probably alrealdy sued by Mick Jagger for repeated copyright infringement,
and by a certain Mr. Lucipher for slandering).
Hope it helps, and it does not give you nightmares
Ciao
Giorgio

 Bambi, so I will try to deal with the matter.
[snip exceedingly helpful 'dealing with matter' that has the undersigned at
least, more illuminated than previously - not that that takes much, I grant
you]
Dear Giorgio,
I knew this was not 'your field' as such, but felt certain you would be able
to shed some light on what I am certain is a murky subject, and indeed you
have.
Most pleased you decided to accept my invitation, and with clarity,
swiftness and humour to boot.
With thanks.
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cheers,
Loki


Dear Loki,
I checked and it is true that the Canzoniere scout had similar problems, but
the solution they took was to delete all the infringing lyrics and collect
only own or free lyrics (i.e. San Martino).
Ciao
Giorgio

 Loki
Hi Loki, I am sorry about the delay in answering your question.
I have been having the worst time trying to get to this newsgroup
during the past few days.  Deja.com is acting up again!
I think the difference between calico and tortoiseshell is that calicos
have some white and torities are not supposed to.  However, I must say
that I have seen torties with white.  In fact, I have one of those
too.  Her name is Little Pirate because of the large black spot around
one of her eyes.  I will post this message in the alt.animals.felines
group and see what the experts say.  I thought I was an expert in
feline matters, but obviously I was wrong.
Miao
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 Now, kindly desist from tinkering with your software. At once!
That be the day ...   (What a pity no one designed a musical note key).
Loki

 That be the day ...   (What a pity no one designed a musical note key).
Dear Loki,
Careful what you wish for.  Doesn't that give some bright young spark a
brilliant idea of a new programming language they could be writing? (If
that's what it's called)
And then another bright young thing will get a notion of adding actual music
which plays when said note is inserted, and then....
In any event, glad to see things seem to have calmed down your end and are
behaving if you will be so good as to leave well enough alone
--
I remain, as always,
Bambi
dtb.

 one of her eyes
Dear Arianna,
For the public records if not to satisfy my personal curiosity, might one
inquire exactly how many felines roam about your premises? Is there room for
your good self as well amidst all these purring entities? Only it seems that
there are an awful lot of them....
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 dtb
Dear Bambi, No!  We don't want that on public records.  I'll just say
that there are "several".  The number varies especially during the
spring and summer when kitten season begins.  You'll just have to come
here and count them yourself.  Now that I think of it, that may not be
possible either because they hide when there are strangers in the
apartment.  In fact, I have pictures of my place on the web (it's up
for sale again) and you can't see a single cat in there!  I also want
to add (I don't know why but I feel that I should) that my place is
very clean and does not smell...just in case you were planning a
visit.  Two members of our NG are coming to visit late in August.
YOUR'RE NEXT! How about Christmas?
bye
arianna
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 YOUR'RE NEXT! How about Christmas?
Dear Arianna,
Of course, how foolish of me! I quite see we don't want  it on public
record. Forgive my indiscretion.
'Several' felines roaming about the premises it shall be.
News of your hospitality has travelled far and you are exceedingly kind in
additionally extending the undersigned an invitation
as well. I am not sure at the present time of my plans for the Yuletide
Season, though had a vague  notion of making my 'annual' trip to the East
Coast of your country. It really is too early to tell, but really, am most
touched by your kind thought. I shall keep abreast of possible travels to
your part of the world as really, it would be so nice to meet up, finally.
Wishing you in bocca al lupo re: the sale of your house,
--
I remain, as always, ecc., ecc.,
Bambi
dtb

 alone --
I'll try but don't hold your breath ;-)
Loki
Champagne:  A drink that has the taste of an apple peeled with a steel
knife. Aldous Huxley

 knife. Aldous Huxley
Dear Loki,
Where *are* the Royal Guards wen you really need them? They're on holiday?
What
holiday??
And kindly desist from enlightening me that above-mentioned Messrs. Huxley
is
deceased. Off with his head, I say!
--
I remain, as always, (and under advisement, not holding ones breath should
you still be concerned that such might be the case),
Bambi
dtb

 should you still be concerned that such might be the case), Bambi
Glad to hear it. I'm sure a blue complexion would ill become you.
cheers,
Loki

 Arianna
Delay, what delay? ;-))) procrastinators don't know the meaning of the
word  and I've been a card carrying menber for decades.
As they say, all cats are grey in the dark. And they all expect you to
feed them, whether you own them or not ;-)
Cheers,
Loki