Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Advanced

Qualcuno ha fatto l'Advanced?
http://www.englishjet.com/english_courses_files/test_advanced.asp
Io sono dubbioso, perplesso e quant'altro.
Ciao, FB

 Io sono dubbioso, perplesso e quant'altro.
 < Ho ottenuto 11 su 25 ed č stato un colpo dal quale non mi riprenderņ
molto presto anche se a dire il vero sono dubbioso e perplesso anche io .
Sal

molto presto anche se a dire il vero sono dubbioso e perplesso anche io .
A parte il fatto che ora ti possiamo ricattare...
Credo che il problema sia che le domande che non sono a scelta multipla
possono risultare errate per una semplice difformitą non essenziale dalla
risposta attesa dal programma, che suppongo sia scritto in javascript e non
sia molto sofisticato.
saluti,
Peltio

 molto presto anche se a dire il vero sono dubbioso e perplesso anche io .
Io 10/25.
-- 
Giovanni Bajo

Io sono dubbioso, perplesso e quant'altro.
Dimmelo a me! Ho fatto 15/25.
Ecco le mie risposte (da non leggere se si vuole fare il test):
01) The teacher accused the student of breaking the window.
02) It's better if I go to the dentist's soon
03) It has been 4 months since I have been to the opera
04) Mary told her boyfriend that she did not want to go on holiday
with him
05) Despite being good the film received a poor write up from the
critics
06) being good the film received a poor write up from the critics
07) Only after a couple of hours of waiting the meeting began
08) I'd rather you do not smoke here
09) We will still try and get a ticket even if the play is full booked
10) There's nothing I would not do for you
11) Only later I realised who I had been speaking to
12) They had such a run down house that nobody would buy it
13) ?
14) His house has been burgled.
15) I wonder if you possibly do not mind to carry this case for me
16) he virtually can not sleep
17) it is hard for Mike to finish his degree
18) I did not mean to make you jump
19) A vacated
20) B awarded
21) C well
22) C at last
23) A detain
24) C as long as
25) D hold
Sebastiano
-- 
Por una mirada, un mundo;
por una sonrisa, un cielo;
por un beso... yo no sé
qué te diera por un beso.

Dimmelo a me! Ho fatto 15/25.
Out of interest I tried it.  I'm a native English speaker, a Science 
teacher - now studying for a Ph.D. in Educational Studies - my topic 
"Literacy and Science"
My score 12/25
I suspect that the "scoring programme" is a bit too narrow and rigid.
cheers
-- 
John G Davies

I suspect that the "scoring programme" is a bit too narrow and rigid.
Well, I thought it too, and now I'm sure.
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 Io sono dubbioso, perplesso e quant'altro.
Io avrei detto "piuttosto che quant'altro"... :-)))
--
Er Roscio.


Cazzarola 8/25.
Il problema è che per questi qui degli esami di Cambridge "ESISTE UNA SOLA
RISPOSTA GIUSTA" e probabilmente in termini propriamente grammaticali hanno
ragione.
Attendo con ansia le risposte giuste.
Giuliano

a "chemichal and biological lab technician". I hope it's correct. :)
A Chemistry and Biology lab technician.
Cheers
-- 
John G Davies

A Chemistry and Biology lab technician.
Oh, I see. Thanks.
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 Attendo con ansia le risposte giuste.
Anche io!!

 Qualcuno ha fatto l'Advanced?
Qualcuno scriverebbe le sue risposte, non tutte e 25 corrette, ma almeno
tutte sicuramente plausibili e corrette?
Ciao, FB

 Anche io ho fatto 8/25.
Cioč, TUTTE le risposte multiple piů UNA SOLA
a testo libero ?...
Io ho provato a concentrarmi su UNA SOLA risposta a testo libero
e cliccando sul tasto Test (bello, vero ?:-) ottenevo sempre zero.
--
Er Roscio.

 < Ho ottenuto 11 su 25
Pure io!
E ora sono due i colpi dai quali ti devi riprendere : )))))
saluti,
Peltio

 Io sono dubbioso, perplesso e quant'altro.
It will be a game to see what answer the program accepts as correct for each
question.
I've tried a few but haven't the time now to play with it much.
---
Xakero

 09) We will still try and get a ticket even if the play is full booked
Not accepted by the program as correct.
In the question it should be "fully booked"
I tried the following, both not accepted:
We will still try and get a ticket even though the play is full booked
We will still try and get a ticket even though the play is fully booked
That's how far I got. Who will take it from here?
---
Xakero

 It's time I went to the dentist.
I should have written "dentist's", not "dentist", just like in the question.
---
Xakero

 
Anch'io ho avuto poco tempo, ma avevo provato questa domanda, e non ho
ancora trovato una risposta che loro considerano accettabile. Avevo
provato tutti quelli che hai provato tu (con dentist's), e qualche altro
(tipo "it's nearly/really/almost time for me to go", "it's about time to
go", e anche "it's about time I was going"), ma niente.
Qualcuno c'è riuscito?
Comunque, il fatto che il test è fatto così male dovrebbe confortare chi
ha preso voti bassi.
-- 
Mary

That's how far I got. Who will take it from here?
Thank you very much.
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ha preso voti bassi.
Sě, appunto. :)
Se questo č advanced, non oso immaginare come possa essere il
proficiency.
1) I was thinking that _______
2) Tom was eating a ______
3) Call me at 6____7
3) My name is _____
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 >...2 hour wait did the meeting begin
Anche lì non ero riuscita, perché il programma non accetta le 2 risposte
giuste:
- only after a 2-hour wait did the meeting begin
- only after a two-hour wait did the meeting begin
Senza il trattino, non è tanto giusto.
-- 
Mary

 25) D hold
All correct. They were easy, these multiple-choice questions, weren't they?
That leaves 2, 9 and 13 for which I am unable to guess what the program
wants.

 about those hyphens)
Is it compulsory, or very likely at least, the form "Only... did the meeting
begin"? Or is it possible to avoid this form, with "Only... the meeting
began"?
For Giovanni: this is another form which you would find less weird, if you
do, had you learnt German. By the way, could I have said: "this is..., if
you do, did you know German"?
Bye, FB

 began"?
No.
You can only avoid it by saying "The meeting only began..."
-- 
Mary

 wants.
In 9, there's a mistake in the question; it should read "fully booked".
If you take that into account, you'll get the answer right.
No idea about the other two.
-- 
Mary

 Correct.
British Englisch "cannot", but the program accepts both as correct.
---
Xakero

 If you take that into account, you'll get the answer right.
I had already tried the following, both not accepted:
We will still try and get a ticket even though the play is full booked
We will still try and get a ticket even though the play is fully booked
Now I also tried, still to no avail:
We will still try and get a ticket although the play is full booked
We will still try and get a ticket never mind if the play is full booked
We will still try and get a ticket regardless whether the play is full
booked
Try as I might...
---
Xakero

wants.
Who knows. :)
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    Da te accetto tutto carissimo !
Yours
Sal

 >wants.
Mary, Queen of Scots, knows the answer to 9 but she is holding out on us for
the moment.
---
Xakero

 booked
The only answer it accepts is:
even if the play is fully booked.
It ought to accept (but doesn't):
although the play is fully booked
even though the play is fully booked
-- 
Mary

 > If you take that into account, you'll get the answer right.
Now I've got it! This time we were not supposed to copy the error into the
answer.
"We will still try and get a ticket even if the play is fully booked"
As I remember, I tried that yesterday, with "full booked"
---
Xakero

 even though the play is fully booked
Perhaps not, after all. "although" and "even though" accept as a fact that
the play is fully booked, but in this case the question would have had to be
"It makes no difference that...", I think. "...no difference if...", on the
other hand, leaves that question open.
If I remember correctly, I did try "even if" yesterday but with the "full
booked" of the question, assuming that this is what the program wanted.
---
Xakero

 You can only avoid it by saying "The meeting only began..."
O.K., thank you. And, what about the other sentence?
Bye, FB

 you do, did you know German"?
I don't think so.
-- 
Giovanni Bajo

 He has certainly no means
Also tried, and rejected:
He is certainly a man of limited means
His means are certainly limited
I'm giving up on this one, and on 2)
---
Xakero

 I don't think so.
I didn't too. But after reading: "only after a 2-hour wait did the meeting
begin", I assumed that, perhaps, one may use the inversion even with simple
tenses. Obviously, with perfective tenses it is standard: "If I hadn't done
it" ==> "Had I not done it" (or "Hadn't I done it"?).
I'm still doubtful.
Bye, FB

 Peltio
Si'  sono d'accordo.  E' un po da idioti fare un esame con questo tipo
di domande, ma forse e' proprio quella la ragione.  Tra l'altro puo'
darsi che la punteggiatura conti come parte della risposta, quindi se
ti dimentichi un punto o una virgola sei "screwed".  Or maybe it's
just a gimmick to get you to use their site.  Did anyone try the other
levels?
My score was 12/25.  
bye
Arianna

 He has certainly no means
Did you try anything with "by any means"?
-- 
Giovanni Bajo

 Did you try anything with "by any means"?
You're the greatest! Got it now, thanks to your help: By no means is he
rich.
I was completely on the wrong track, working on the "not rich" aspect rather
than the "certainly not"
That leaves the puzzle of No. 2 to be solved.
---
Xakero

 rich.
Actually, I told the sentence to my brother, and the first sentence he tried
was with "by any means", which made me wondered if that was the right path.
I was stuck with "he is a man of no means" just as you.
This makes #13 ambigous because the word "means" by itself can be used to
construct two different set of sentences.
-- 
Giovanni Bajo

 construct two different set of sentences.
We have to remember that it's a Spanish website and the Spaniards perhaps
didn't know that other meaning of "means".
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Xakero

didn't know that other meaning of "means".
Well, I've sent an e-mail to the webmaster, asking for the answer of
the n°2  and complaining about the n°13.
Here it is the answer:
------------------------------------------------------------- 
I am in charge of the technical site, not the english teaching.
We are not giving any answers of the tests at the moment.
Question 2 of advanced test has no mistake though I must admit the
answer is not easy.
Thank you for your interest.
------------------------------------------------------------- 
At least we know there's no mistake so I can keep trying. He said
nothing about n°13, and in my e-mail there were examples with both the
meanings of "means".
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http://www.englishjet.com/english_courses_files/test_advanced.asp
Me l'ero lasciato da parte.
 14/25  How sad! :(
E ora posso finalmente leggere questo thread!
[ando`, lesse, torno a scrivere...]
 Sarebbe stato 15 se non fossi stato indotto in errore dalla domanda
sbagliata (9) con "full booked" al posto di "fully booked".
Anche la 13, "means", era ambigua, ma l'avrei sbagliata in ogni caso
:(
La n. 2 resta un mistero.
-- 
Enrico
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus

Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
^_^
Today I've finisced OotP AKA "Harry Potter and the Order of the
Phoenix". I can hardly wait for the sixth to come out. :)
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