Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Ditz

La parola in questione viene pronunciata nell'orribile film
"Me myself and Irene " e tradotta nel doppiaggio "oca".
Il sito 
www.allwords.com
  me la traduce "airhead " e quindi la traduzione
dovrebbe essere centrata ma poichè
sono lo Slang Master del gruppo e non l'avevo mai sentita nominare c'è
qualcuno dei dotti partecipanti al NG che ne conosce l'etimologia ?
Yours
Sal

Caro Salvatore,  sono americano di nascita ma la laurea l'ho fatta a Oxford.
Non ho mai sentito la parola "ditz".  Ma l'aggettivo "ditsy", l'ho sentito
in America (mai in Oxford).
Houghton Mifflin's American Heritage Dictionary da questa definizione:
Slang.  Eccentric or scatterbrained: "Needless to say this ditsy crew
succeeded in spite of itself" (David Ansen).  [Perhaps blend of DOTTY +
DIZZY].
The New Shorter Oxford English Dictionary da questa definizione:  North
American Slang, late 20th century, origin unknown.  Conceited, snobbish,
stupid, cute - of a thing, intricate.
"Conceited, snobbish, cute" - non ho mai sentito la parola ditsy usata con
questi significati.  Solamente stupid.
Kevin in SF
salvatore santangelo wrote in message ...
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 sono lo Slang Master del gruppo e non l'avevo mai sentita
When someone, you-know-who, says "sono lo Slang Master del gruppo", i.e.
talks about himself in
the present in such terms, it only means he is biting the dust, going to the
Great
Beyond...

 Beyond...
Well said mate !

Sal, ditz ha la seguente definizione:
a ditzy person.
quindi ho cercato ditzy sul Merriam-Webster.  Ecco il risultato:
dit*sy or dit*zy (adjective) dits*i*er or ditz*i*er; -est
[origin unknown]
First appeared 1973
 : eccentrically silly, giddy, or inane : DIZZY
ciao
arianna
PS: it seems that you are out of luck as far as the origin is concerned.

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<I know one is supposed to be gentlemanlike and stiffupperlippish and that
one should not be dragged into trollish nets
   and I know that people like you ,scum of the earth ain't worth the biffs
of my pinkies on this keyboard of mine but
   Nun te pare ca c'č rutto nu poco  o' cazzo ?
  Sincerely Yours
Sal

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    Nun te pare ca c'č rutto nu poco  o' cazzo?
Eqqueqqua o gentlemanno Pappagone o Strunzo!

 to death"? No, eh?
<I think "Your jokes kill me " is what you are looking for.
Yours
Sal

 <I think "Your jokes kill me " is what you are looking for.
E che, so 'jokes' pure quelli? Ammazzalo, oh!

 to death"? No, eh?
mmmhhh..
you cracked me up
saluti,
Peltio

 <I think "Your jokes kill me " is what you are looking for.
"I'm splitting my sides" is another expression that comes to my mind,
though less forceful, perhaps (LOL only, not ROTFLOL).
--
Xakero
Sapere aude!
 (Horace, Epistulae)
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 Eqqueqqua o gentlemanno Pappagone o Strunzo!
Translation as above
"Dear Salvatore,
    Sadly, I have not enough brains to understand your kind advice.
    Even though I am physiologically no longer in my teens.
    But I will bear the consequences of my deeds, even if that could mean
        - being ignored by all the regular posters
        - being flooded with deep anal asian porno stuff by anonymous
            afghan remailers, in both the e-mail address I disclosed in this
            NG
        - having my website swiftly turned into a Nazi organ
        - being slain by evil black knights
        - being eaten by a ravenous dragon
        - being peeled alive and tossed in a barrel filled with salt,
            which will be inadvertently dropped (sealed) near the Niagara
            falls  (Canadian side).
        - being readily boiled in stinky rotten whale oil
    And then I will end up talking to myself (that is to the other nick),
    alone in this news group.
very truly yours,
Lucio"

  : eccentrically silly, giddy, or inane : DIZZY
The good old Merriam-Webster needs a few more computers to cross-check
the entries in its various versions of dictionaries, it seems. The
online version at 
www.webster.com
 dates "ditz" more recently, 1982,
while your presumably printed, more elaborate version dates it 1973.
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The "American-British British-American Dictionary" at
http://www.peak.org/~jeremy/dictionary/dict.html
 gives another, partly
sexist definition:
ditz n :
ditsy person, dithering woman, syn. dumb blonde
but, alas, still no etimology.
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 qualcuno dei dotti partecipanti al NG che ne conosce l'etimologia ?
So far I've figured out that Ditz is a surname (last name) and also a
first name (see 
http://www.kabalarians.com/male/ditz.htm
) but whether
this relates to the origin of ditz as a noun as defined I am at the
moment unable to either confirm or refute.
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     Before your arrival
BEFORE MY ARRIVAL??? AM I SUCH AN IMPORTANT  TURNING POINT FOR THE GROUP,
THEN? I'm really flattered. Oh dear...
...dear Isapeltio,
num m'emporta d'o passato! Nun me 'mporta chi tt'a avuto! Let's forget the
past and look confidently at the future... nice days are ahead of us... but,
please, don't send me too many Valentines for the coming February 14. A kiss
from your adored Ow Ouch.

 "I'm splitting my sides" is another expression that comes to my mind,
I'm sure that "I'm splitting my brains" fits your case better.

 but, alas, still no etimology.
I can't believe I wrote that! Perhaps a subconscious, timid attempt at
bowdlerization? More likely, I was tricked by etymology's Italian
spelling.
My weekend is drawing to a close and I have to admit defeat, haul in
the flag: I have not found the etymology of "ditz". May more valiant
knights have better fourtune!
I have, though, put out a couple of feelers but doubt that they will
render much.
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