Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: ingratiating cats

Such a lovely term. Ingratiating.
http://www.smh.com.au/text/articles/2004/05/16/1084646077448.html
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 Such a lovely term. Ingratiating.
Of course. I comes from Italian.
Max

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No no, not the same thing at all! That's ingraziazi with all those
z's. Not the same sound as ingratiate at all with it's sussuration.
;-ţ
However, you may come from an Italian... ;-)
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However, you may come from an Italian... ;-)
Sure! I even lives there! ;)
Sebastiano

 Such a lovely term. Ingratiating.
Such a lovely term. Cats.
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Giovanni Bajo

 
<hee hee another bunch of dumb humans scammed by a cat. wayta go, li'l 
german buddy!>
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I am Joey's Cat
Un-not my address, too, if you wanna reply.

 
GIVE THIS MAN A CIGAR!
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 GIVE THIS MAN A CIGAR!
I do, in fact, love cats too :)
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Giovanni Bajo

 
My cat is... I mean, if my former master Joey were alive he would say 
this about me:
My cat is great! I adopted him last October, he was a little over a year 
old and I could tell he hated being in that cage. He came home with me 
and took over everything immediately.
He's very smart: he knows the words "eat", "mouse" (his favorite toy, 
which he takes to bed with him, and back out in the morning), "play" and 
"Come here." (For some reason I can't figure out, he doesn't seem to 
understand "no" -- or even "NO!!")
Very playful, a real "guy cat"; jumps all over the place, does flips 
when he plays with his mouse, plays hide-and-seek with me, tries to climb 
the door jamb and talks a lot.
What a joy.
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the door jamb and talks a lot.
Great! And I believe that whenever he falls down he lands on his feet.
Waitaminute. I know that if a buttered slice of bread falls down from
the table - let's say you nudged it off the butcher block - it will
land on the buttered surface. So, if you tie the buttered slice of
bread on the back of your lovely cat with the non-buttered surface
facing the furry back of your pet and you throw the odd couple out of
your window, Gravity would say "what the hell?" and reset the system,
and they would fall down. But once they have almost gotten to the
sidewalk, they would start to spin because the cat would have to land
on his feet, and the buttered slice of bread would have to land on its
buttered surface, on the opposite side of the feline paws. The result
would be Perpetual Motion! What a great idea! The perfect engine!
Sebastiano

 
Methinks not.
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 would be Perpetual Motion! What a great idea! The perfect engine!
Temo che la parte felina del motore avrebbe un attacco al terzo o quarto
giro, col risultato che un gatto girevole diventerebbe il perfetto scherzo
di Carnevale.
Ciao, FB
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"Gli americani sono ignoranti per loro stessa natura"
that is "The Americans are naturally ignorant"
(Paolo Bonardi on it.cultura.linguistica)

 
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Ahh the good old 'buttered cat array'. :-)
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, Loki 
wrote...
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BASTA! Oy vey!
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 Oh, and I'm ignoring your tagline. (Who eez thees Bonardi, ennyvay?)
Er, a good, odd sort wandering about it.cultura.linguistica.italiano. I'm
sure he'll be glad to give you an explanation.
*Of course*, I don't agree with him at all, I just want to sputtanate him
for that assertion. Does "to sputtanate" exist? (witty face)
Bye, FB
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L'importante è che risplenda tu, sola primadonna e immarcescibile leggenda
del tuo pianerottolo.
Lucangel

 for that assertion. Does "to sputtanate" exist? (witty face)
I just want to show him up. (BrE)
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Mary

 for that assertion. Does "to sputtanate" exist? (witty face)
 
Eet vaz a choke, my vrend. (I've seen his name a few times there) I was 
being a typical ignorant American with my ignorant humor, pretending to 
be a foreigner trying to speak English... "Who eez thees.. etc.")
No, sputtanate doesn't exist, as you know. And no, you must not do that; 
everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, no matter how 
riDICulously ASinine it is. :)
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Ahh the good old 'buttered cat array'. :-)
Always working. ^_^
Sebastiano

BASTA! Oy vey!
Just think that I would never do something like that. :)
But it was a funny idea. :)
If dogs were smart enough to land on their feet the joke would be with
flyin' dogs with a butter chutes, but - alas - dogs are great - I do
love them - but not so good at landing.
That's not a problem because I don't throw my three dogs around in
order too see what happens. :)
Sebastiano

di Carnevale.
You're right. This sick merry-go-round would be like a salad spinner
with nothing to prevent the water - in this case it would not be
water...ew - from going anywhere.
Sebastiano

I just want to show him up. (BrE)
Nice! I only knew the "to turn up" meaning of "to show up". 
Anyway, maybe someone will like reading this:
Sputtanare vt V+D(+IN)
1 to defame, to slander, to smear sb's name, to vilify
lo dice per sputtanarmi 
he's saying it to smear my good name
2 to squander, to *throw away, to dissipate
sputtanare capitali al gioco 
to squander one's fortune gambling
B sputtanarsi vip V(+IN) 
to disgrace oneself, to shame oneself, to *bring shame/disgrace on
oneself
ho promesso e se non lo faccio mi sputtano
I promised to do it, and if I don't I'll disgrace myself.
And I'd add "to show sb up" next to "to vilify".
to show sb up (coll)
imbarazzare, fare vergognare, mettere in imbarazzo qn
he showed me up in front of my family by getting drunk 
mi mise in imbarazzo davanti alla mia famiglia ubriacandosi
to show sb up +as/for/I·TO 
mostrare, rivelare, mettere in luce qn (nel modo descritto)
what he said showed him up to be a liar 
ciò che disse rivelò che era un bugiardo;
don't show yourself up for what you are! 
non mostrarti per quello che sei!
"sputtanare" is more strong, though. And you can't use it for "mettere
in imbarazzo".
Ieri mi ha sputtanato davanti a tutti parlando di quando ero piccolo.
Ma non "Ieri mi ha sputtanato davanti a tutti ubriacandosi a casa
mia".
Con la seconda frase si capirebbe che - forse - chi si è ubriacato ha
raccontato cose che hanno sputtanato chi parla o che magari chi parla
ha giurato che tale persona non bevesse più e invece...
Sebastiano

 > (Paolo Bonardi on it.cultura.linguistica)
I took it to mean "they are ignorant of their natures" as are we all,
really.
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 BASTA! Oy vey!
Have I ever mentioned the two lovely dogs I owned. :-)
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You don't happen to read New Scientist by any chance do you?
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You don't happen to read New Scientist by any chance do you?
I read it a couple of times, very interesting. I don't know where I
read the one about cats and buttered slices of bread, though. 
Sebastiano

 And no, you must not do that; everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion
Of course. I just let the world know his. (witty face)
Bye, FB
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Se dico "siedi!" manca l'oggetto.
Siedo chi? Lei o me?
(da it.cultura.linguistica.italiano)

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The funny bits are usually in the area called 'Feedback" and it was
in the Letters too. They had quite a correspondence on it a year or
so back. 
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so back. 
I'll buy a copy next time I'll be in a city where they know there's a
world out there :(.
Sebastiano

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There is an online version . The world is at your fingertips.
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There is an online version . The world is at your fingertips.
You're right. :)
Sebastiano