Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: give us a call

I received tonight this text from an English friend:
"give us a call tomorrow", meaning "give ME a call tomorrow"
is this form frequent in English? I never heard it before...
Tx
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 is this form frequent in English? I never heard it before...
"Chiamiamoci domani"?
Kiuhnm

 
Is the speaker (the "texter", I guess) part of a couple? It's pretty common 
for one of a couple to use the first person plural forms.
Otherwise, it's not a common usage in the US for a single person.
Other than royalty.
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Joey DoWop Dee
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 is this form frequent in English?
In UK English , yes (colloquial , of course) 

 is this form frequent in English? I never heard it before...
Perhaps yesterday was pluralis maiestatis day! :)
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Ciao,
Anna

 
maybe he feels a bit royal, then :)
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perche' non vieni
nella mia solitudine?

 In UK English , yes (colloquial , of course)
oh, ok, thanks
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Well, if he's single and lives alone he could be a queen.
Don't ask me how I know.
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no, he's not gay, if this is what you mean
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Sorry... it was my bad humor showing through.
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no problem, I do not consider "gay" an offence at all. Well, maybe he
would, but I wouldn't tell him... :)
and I really enjoy your sense of humor, in general...
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> is this form frequent in English? I never heard it before...
In Inghilterra molto frequente. Ti potra' persino capitare di sentire:
"if you need my help, give us a shout"
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Other than royalty.
what does it mean?
danke
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would, but I wouldn't tell him... :)
ieri, ad un negozio di giocattoli (Città del Sole), con mia figlia,
mia moglie.
incontriamo un'amica di mia moglie, già vista una volta (io non mi
ricordavo di lei) ed una sua amica.
cerchiamo dei giocattoli...ad un certo punto, visto che mia moglie
sceglieva sempre cose un po' "maschili" (voleva un maschio...) io me
ne esco
"basta che non me cresce lesbica..."
fuori, salutati tutti, mia moglie mi lancia un'occhiataccia, e mi dice
"mi hai fatto fare una figura...."
???
non ti ricordi che Tizia (l'amica sua incontrata lì) è lesbica!?!?
No, boh, che ne so...e poi io l'ho detto con simpatia....
Che dici ho fatto una figuraccia? Ma io l'ho detto veramente con
simpatia :-)
ciao
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In UK English , yes (colloquial , of course) 
We the people?
Pluralia majestatis?
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"if you need my help, give us a shout"
SPQI....
bono a sapesse, cmq.
grazie,
ciao
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I was referring to what folks here (the US, anyway) call "The Royal 'We'".
Her Ladyship never refers to herself as "I", but "We", because "We" are the 
Kingdom.
Here (again, the US) it carries a humorously sarcastic undertone, but 
respectful. (Or maybe sometimes not so respectful. But humorous, 
nonetheless.)
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I was referring to what folks here (the US, anyway) call "The Royal 'We'".
And I thought you were talking about royalties in the singular...
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No. Maybe if I had capitalized it, it would have been clearer: "Royalty."
Just a thought.
Anna used (and you repeated it) a Latin phrase that means the same thing, I 
think: 'pluralis maiestatis'... does it mean the same thing?
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think: 'pluralis maiestatis'... does it mean the same thing?
yes. WE the king of France have decided to get rid of the ignoble
English race, and so WE are about to lauch a great campaign of mass
extermination of these purtridous vermins.......etc.
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 purtridous vermins
I've been called a lot of names in my day, but never that one!
Maybe it's because the word "putridous" doesn't exist, and "vermin" is a 
collective noun and so always used in the singular.
That's it, I'm sure; not because I'm actually *not* putrid vermin.
LOL.
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That's it, I'm sure; not because I'm actually *not* putrid vermin.
Anyway are you French? You do eat frogs, right? :-)
ps anyway 
http://www.anti-vermins.com
 (see if you see it translated
into your own language)
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 into your own language)
It came up in English. Still wrong, though. No such word as "vermins".
Must be German. German vermins.
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Must be German. German vermins.
Still angry about the Maginot Line (*)?
(*) 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maginot_line
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 Still angry about the Maginot Line (*)?
No, I don't hold grudges. If I get angry I spew like Etna and then it's all 
over, and, hey, can I buy you a beer? :-)
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 č proforma...mica l'avrai chiamato veramente....
non era un proforma, ma questa e' una lunga storia.
Comunque ieri che ci siamo visti gli ho chiesto e mi ha detto che si e'
astenuto dallo scrivere: "givvu call", o qualcosa del genere, per timore
che non capissi, ma che quella e' la forma classica londinese (oserei
dire east ender).
dopo di che si e' prodotto in una lezione di cockney e  ho appreso che a
londra, per dire: "give me a look" si dice "givvu butcher": give us a
butcher's hook, that rhymes with look, then a give us a butcher.
le altre rime non me le ricordo...
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Erba bagnata

 le altre rime non me le ricordo...
Questa la riporta anche l'Oxford :-)
have (or take) a butcher's Brit. informal have a look. [butcher's from butcher's 
hook, rhyming sl. for a 'look']

No, I don't hold grudges. 
So you won't break to new mutiny.
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le altre rime non me le ricordo...
io mi fermo a see you later alligator....
;-)
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You could go as far as:
--See you later, alligator!
--In a while, crocodile!
(But that's not the same as Cockney Rhyming Slang. I forget where I first 
heard of this; it was most likely in some informal study of the English [as 
in England] language.)
My advice to you and Ladybat is to avoid trying to learn it. It can make you 
crazy!
It's fun to look at, though:
'Allo me old china - wot say we pop round the Jack. I'll stand you a pig and 
you can rabbit on about your teapots. We can 'ave some loop and tommy and be 
off before the dickory hits twelve.
or, to translate
Hello my old mate (china plate) - what do you say we pop around to the bar 
(Jack Tar). I'll buy you a beer (pig's ear) and you can talk (rabbit and 
pork) about your kids (teapot lids). We can have some soup (loop de loop) and 
supper (Tommy Tucker) and be gone before the clock (hickory dickory dock) 
strikes twelve.
source:
http://www.aldertons.com
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Apparently the problem with cockney is that it changes continuously the
rhymes so either you live in the east end or your cockney will be a bit
obsolete. The other problem is that the few true east enders I know
are ashamed of using it because it is considered very working class, so
no way to learn it anyway.
Furthermore nowadays cockney is adding bangladeshi words because in
Tower hamlet now most of the residents are from there. So teenagers
speak a sort of pidgin cockney-bangladeshi which is almost impossible to
understand.
In my school they add urdu words, too, to makes the things simpler...
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