Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Exeter

Potrebbe qualche anima buona dirmi come si pronuncia la città inglese di
Exeter (Devon)?
Ci devo andare in luglio e non vorrei fare brutte figure!
Grazie
MQ

 Exeter (Devon)?
Mi risulta ['Eksit&] ("E" ==> "e" aperta; "&" ==> schwa). Bada che [i] è
una "i" breve.
Ciao, FB
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Come questo:
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?refid=1861673120
Ma quest'uomo ha un accento americano.

 una "i" breve.
Lo Zanichelli concorda con te, salvo che sulla "i", che secondo quel
dizionario sarebbe invece un'altra schwa.
A proposito del Devon: con quale accento parlano gli inglesi di quelle
parti?

 parti?
Provo a rispondermi da solo, dopo una ricerchina su Google.
QUOTE 
http://www.mindspring.com/~mtiefert/poetry/coleridgeFAQ.html
| What does the Devon accent sound like?
| quoth Garin Linnington: I am from bodrder tixt Cornwall/Devon (De'm
| in Devonian speech). 'Ee cood axed a De'm biy laik me, en' ah'll a
| tuld ee' wat De'm mohth spitch zohnded laik, me anzum. Tis purt
| viddy, en' nort laik that vurrin imeetehtion ribbish.
| Um, can you translate that, Garin?
| mohth = mouth (Devonians tends to pronounce the standard English
| 'ou' diphthong as an 'oh', a development from the original 'oo' I
| suppose, which is still used in NE England 'Geordie'. They say
| 'aboot the toon'. In Cornwall to the west of Devon, and in Somerset
| to the east, mouth becomes 'mewth'. Mouth speech 'mohth spitch' =
| language or accent.
| anzum = handsome, a typically old address, e.g. mee anzum (my
| handsome). Not a reference to appearance, just a polite compliment
| I suppose. My lover is also used (and it doesn't mean lover in a
| Shakespearian manner).
| Purt = pretty, very. Devonian suffers from metathesis, so that bread
| can be burd (also braid), great is gurt.
| Viddy = fair, pleasing etc. Purt viddy means very fair or good.
| nort = nothing
| ort = anything
| laik = like. Monothongs are typical so that like is lak (drawl the
| vowel), and amongst old people in rural areas often the earlier
| diphthong is used, so that like is laik, night is nait etc.
| Mehk = Make. pure vowel, sounds like mek with a drawl on the vowel.
| Applies for words like cake, lake, drake etc etc.
| Also there is no 'y' sound before 'u' as in tube, pure, view, beauty
| etc. They are toob (not choob or tyoob), poor, voo, booty etc.

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It's known as a "West Country Accent". It's difficult to explain an
accent. If you've seen "The pirates of the Caribbean" you will know
it. The ghost pirates spoke with a west country accent and If you've
ever heard any songs by the spoof band "The Wurzels". "I've got a
brand new combine harvester" or "I'm a cider drinker" .. for e.g. They
sing in this accent.

 Exeter (Devon)?
Secondo il CD Zanichelli, che ha il pregio di riportare anche i nomi
di città inglesi, con relativa pronuncia in simboli IPA...
'ɛksətə(r)
Una città inglese dalla pronuncia un po' sorprendente, almeno per me,
è Plymouth
'plɪməθ
Ma si sa che la pronuncia dei nomi geografici è quasi imprevedibile
:-)
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 sing in this accent.
Bello, l'accento dei pirati! :-)

 It's known as a "West Country Accent".
E sul West Country Accent trovo
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/West_Country_Accent
| The characteristic features of the accent of the region include 
| A slower, drawling manner of speech, with lengthened vowel sounds. 
| The inital "s" is pronounced as "z". 
| "r"s are pronounced far more prominently than in Standard English. 
| An initial "f" may become pronounced "v", as in varmer Joe 
| In the Bristol area a terminal "a" is often followed by an intrusive
| "l". Hence the old joke about the three Bristolian sisters Evil,
| Idle and Normal. 
| In some rural districts the second person singular thee and thou
| forms are occasionally retained, thee often constricted to ee.

 dizionario sarebbe invece un'altra schwa.
Purtroppo, in RP le [i] diventano sempre più [ə] (o quaaaaasi [e] se
toniche), perché è probabilmente più facile distinguere tra [ə] e [i:],
piuttosto che tra [i] e [i:].
Non so, a me pare, sempre per parlare di [i] che cambiano (in questo caso
non in schwa) che si senta spessissimo "dinner" tendente verso "denner"
(non proprio, altrimenti immagino sia dialettale), ma alcuni attori
continuano a dire "dinner" con una chiara [i], cioè lo stesso suono di
"seem", ma molto breve.
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