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Titolo: to fall under the sway of (someone)

Could it mean "cadere nelle grinfie di qualcuno"?

 Could it mean "cadere nelle grinfie di qualcuno"?
idioms
hold sway:    avere influenza
under the sway of:    sotto l'influenza di
-- 
Joe/Joey da New York

 under the sway of:    sotto l'influenza di
The same idiomatic meaning of "sotto le grinfie di".
"Grinfie" means "artigli".
I hope this may help someone.
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 I hope this may help someone.
here's the setting:
By the grand phrase "transmutation of an emotional system" I mean to convey 
what it is that we do privately, often unconsciously, to feelings that 
nowadays often *fall under the sway of* large organizations, social 
engineering, and profit motive.
(Arlie Hochschild: The managed heart: commercialization of human feeling p. 
19
GoogleBooks 
http://tinyurl.com/6z7nju
)
Since the author's negative feeling about how large organizations, social 
engineering, and profit motive treat human emotions for their own purposes, 
I'm minded to translate "fall under the sway of"  into "cade tra le 
grinfie". 

 I hope this may help someone.
Careful though. Unlike "grinfie" (I cannot think of any situations where 
being "sotto le grinfie di qualcuno" would be something nice), "sway" 
has also a neutral/positive meaning. Someone can "hold sway", and be 
respected, in a certain field of expertise due to their knowledge/skill.
I would also translate "fall under the sway of someone" with "diventare 
succube di qualcuno".
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Don't f*ck with me bitch, I'm the mightiest sorcerer of the lands.

 le grinfie".
Si dice "I'm of the mind to".
È meglio pensare di una spinta per una direzione particulare invece di una 
trappola. Parla del inconscio. Allora è più l'influenza che il controllo. 

 trappola. Parla del inconscio. Allora è più l'influenza che il controllo.
non saprei. il libro tratta della commercializzazione dei sentimenti umani 
ad opera di organizzazioni mediante quella che la Hochschild chiama "social 
engineering". tanto per intenderci, l'autrice ha studiato i training 
formativi degli assistenti di volo (flight attendant) dove  vengono 
impartiti suggerimenti e tecniche per mostrarsi cordiali, disponibili, per 
sorridere in ogni circostanza.
resta comunque una frase ambigua. tangliando la testa al toro: traduco con 
"cadono sotto l'influenza" evitando ogni formula idiomatica. 

 grazie per la correzione
Maybe it's another US/UK thing , but 'minded to' is perfectly ok over here 
(UK) , though it is quite a formal usage .
Mike 

 (UK) , though it is quite a formal usage .
There may be a difference in vernacular. I've never heard 'minded to' in the 
US and "I'm of the mind to" is an infrequent and formal usage.

 the US and "I'm of the mind to" is an infrequent and formal usage.
As far as I remember, I read it on an Economist's article. 
http://tinyurl.com/6jl8dk
Anyway, you've suggested another way of saying "I intend to do like this", 
hence, I'm thankful for your teaching.

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When I say 'formal' myself , I often mean (at any rate in addition) used by 
well-educated people ; so I wouldn't be surprised to find 'minded to' in a 
journal like the Economist , and I've occasionally used it myself , and 
heard it in conversation .
There may be nuances : you say 'another way of saying 'I intend to do this'' 
, but if you look up 'minded to' in the dictionary it gives 'inclined to , 
disposed to' ; for me , 'minded to' is a touch more positive than these , 
but expresses less of a positive decision than 'intend to' . (All re UK 
usage.)
Mike