Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: test on line per determinare livello lingua?

Ragazzi, sapete se per caso esistono risorse per la simulazione on-
line del TOEFL internet-based? Ho dato uno sguardo approfondito a
questo sito:
http://toeflpractice.ets.org/
senza però ritrovare un test gratuito.
Al limite mi accontenterei di un semplice test on line che mi attesti
il livello generale della mia conoscenza della lingua.
Grazie


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http://www.englishjet.com/english_courses_files/test_level.asp

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Cool, I got 66 out of 68, it ssays "EXPERT". :)
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innovation." - Jon Erickson

 Cool, I got 66 out of 68, it ssays "EXPERT". :)
Ha ha, anche io ne ho sbagliate due!!
Vatti a fidare dei madrelingua!
(però non so quali ho sbagliato, sicuramente qualche vaccata British)
A parte le vaccate pero', non mi sembra un test indicativo oltre un certo
livello.
ciao, Janis

 Ha ha, anche io ne ho sbagliate due!!
Me too! Non è che dà a chiunque 66 a prescindere? 8-)
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"I aim to misbehave". 

 Cool, I got 66 out of 68, it ssays "EXPERT". :)
Wow! 68/68 (7-expert)!
That test mustn't be very precise :-)
Kiuhnm

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Kiuhnm, da te me lo aspetto: ci posti tutte le domande e tutte le risposte
cosi' capisco che cavolo ho sbagliato?
(per curiosita', avete mai fatto un test per vedere il vostro livello in
italiano? o sono solo io la demente?)
ciao, Janis

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My answers were:
[I've even rechecked them.]
1. I haven't got [any money]
A. no money.
B. money.
C. any money.
D. some money.
2. [There isn't any] orange juice in the fridge.
A. There isn't no
B. There is any
C. There isn't any
D. There aren't no
3. He goes to work [by taxi].
A. by taxi.
B. on taxi.
C. with taxi.
D. in taxi.
4. [He always wakes up at 9:00]
A. Always he wakes up at 9:00
B. He wakes up at always 9:00
C. He always wakes up at 9:00
D. He wakes always up at 9:00
5. We haven't got [much] mineral water.
A. a lot
B. little
C. too
D. much
6. [Where is Manchester United playing?]
A. Where playing Manchester United?
B. Where is playing Manchester United?
C. Where is Manchester United playing?
D. Where playing is Manchester United?
7. [What's the weather like?]
A. What's like the weather?
B. How's the weather?
C. What's the weather like?
D. How the weather is?
8. Mark [is going to] fly to London tomorrow.
A. to going
B. goes to
C. is going to
D. go to
9. I have class [on Mondays]
A. on Mondays.
B. in Mondays.
C. at Mondays.
D. by Mondays.
10. John is the manager, you need to speak to [him]
A. it.
B. him.
C. her.
D. you.
11. I wanted a purple bike but they only had [a green one].
A. a one green.
B. one green.
C. a green one.
D. a green.
12. He [didn't have] breakfast yesterday.
A. hadn't
B. no had
C. didn't have got
D. didn't have
13. [Give the money to Joan.]
A. Give the Joan money.
B. Give the money to Joan.
C. Give to Joan the money.
D. Give the money at Joan.
14. [Mary usually drives carefully.]
A. Mary usually drives carefully.
B. Mary carefully drives usually.
C. Mary carefully usually drives.
D. Mary usually carefully drives.
15. I have to go to the bank [to get] some money.
A. for getting
B. to get
C. to getting
D. for to get
16. The room was empty. There [was nobody] there.
A. wasn't nobody
B. was anybody
C. was nobody
D. was somebody
17. I've lost my keys. I can't find them [anywhere].
A. anywhere.
B. nowhere.
C. nothing.
D. somewhere.
18. We can't get there by 3:00 pm. There is [too little] time.
A. few
B. too little
C. too little little
D. too few
19. He arrived [at] Heathrow airport on Friday morning.
A. in
B. at
C. on
D. by
20. I haven't had lunch with my mother [since] a year ago.
A. since
B. -----
C. for
D. during
21. There [were no] spectators at the match.
A. were no
B. weren't no
C. were any
D. were not
22. The kitchen can't be dirty (; or :) he [has just cleaned it]
A. is just clean it.
B. have just cleaned it.
C. just clean it.
D. has just cleaned it.
23. He's looking forward [to seeing] that film.
A. to see
B. seeing
C. see
D. to seeing
24. Don't start [shouting!]
A. to shouting!
B. shouting!
C. shout!
D. in shouting!
25. He works at the theatre, [doesn't he?] ? (eh eh, double question 
mark :-) )
A. doesn't he?
B. does he?
C. isn't he?
D. didn't he?
26. Simon [has lived] in Madrid since 1982.
A. lives
B. is living
C. does live
D. has lived
27. [I told her to close the window.]
A. I told her what she closed the window.
B. I told her to close the window.
C. I told she close the window.
D. I told her that she close the window.
28. Has Mr. Brown arrived [yet] ?
A. already
B. still
C. now
D. yet
29. If I won the lottery, I [would buy] a house in the country.
A. would buy
B. have bought
C. will buy
D. would have bought
30. Peter is [telling] Jane to do it at this very moment.
A. telling
B. saying
C. saying to
D. telling to
31. Have you sent that fax to Mr. Smyth?  (Sm*Y*th???)
        Yes, I've [already] done that.
A. still
B. already
C. yet
D. now
32. [How long] have you been waiting?
A. How long
B. What time
C. How far
D. When
33. They weren't surprised and nor [was] I.
A. weren't
B. wasn't
C. were
D. was
34. I invited Mary out for a meal, but unfortunately
     she [had already had] dinner.
A. had already got
B. had already had
C. have already had
D. already had
35. This is the cat [] I saw.
A. whom
B. -----
C. what
D. who
36. [How far] is it from Barcelona to Madrid?
A. How far
B. How long
C. How much
D. How many
37. You can meet me [whenever] you like.
A. whenever
B. soon
C. always
D. whatever
38. I [am used to] working at night nowadays.
A. used to
B. used
C. am used to
D. would
39. I have to catch the 5:00am train tomorrow, so I [mustn't] go to bed 
late.
A. needn't
B. haven't
C. have to
D. mustn't
40. She [had to] go to the dentist's yesterday.
A. must
B. had to
C. ought to
D. should have
41. That's the [least] of my worries, it'll never happen.
A. fewer
B. less
C. last
D. least
42. I wouldn't mind [going out] tonight.
A. to go out
B. go out
C. going out
D. to going out
43. The man [sitting] in the corner is my boss.
A. whose
B. sitting
C. is sitting
D. sits
44. "Those cases look heavy"
     "[Shall I] carry one for you?"
     "That's very nice of you"
A. Will I
B. Do I have
C. Shall I
D. Do it
45. Don't forget [to post] those letters.
A. to post
B. posting
C. to posting
D. post
46. Where have you put my keys?
     I clearly remember [leaving] them on the table last night.
A. to leave
B. left
C. did leave
D. leaving
47. You look tired. You [ought to] go to bed.
A. need
B. have
C. should have
D. ought to
48. That was a great match. I'll never forget [seeing] Rivaldo
     score that goal.
A. see
B. to see
C. seeing
D. to seeing
49. I thought you [were coming to the party.]
A. will come to the party.
B. were coming to the party.
C. come to the party.
D. have come to the party.
50. They [may have come] last night, but I'm not sure.
A. may come
B. might come
C. should come
D. may have come
51. We [had] better hurry up or we'll be late.
A. would
B. should
C. had
D. ought
52. She worked hard yesterday and [was able to] type all the letters.
A. was able to
B. can
C. could
D. would be
53. If I [were] you, I'd take the risk.
A. am
B. have been
C. were
D. would be
54. [Ask her when the food will be ready.]
A. Ask her when will be ready the food.
B. Ask her when will be the food ready.
C. Ask her when the food will be ready.
D. Ask her when will the food ready be.
55. I couldn't mend the PC myself, so I [had it mended] at a shop.
A. had it mended
B. had it mend
C. did it mend
D. had mended
56. I wish I [had] a car, I'm tired of catching the bus.
A. have
B. would have
C. had
D. had had
57. [That's an attractive brown leather coat.]
A. That's a brown, attractive leather coat.
B. That's a brown leather coat attractive.
C. That's an attractive leather brown coat.
D. That's an attractive brown leather coat.
58. He ran so fast [as if he were] being followed by a ghost.
A. as
B. as if he were
C. like
59. [Little did he know] but I realised what he had done.
A. Little did he know
B. Little known
C. Little he knew
D. Little knowing
60. If you'd come to the theatre last night, you [would have enjoyed] 
the play.
A. would enjoy
B. had enjoyed
C. would have enjoyed
D. will enjoy
61. I know he didn't thank you, but he [should] have done so.
A. must
B. may
C. would
D. should
62. They laughed a lot last night. The film [must have been] very funny.
A. should have been
B. must have been
C. was to be
D. should be
63. He wrote the programme [on his own], he didn't need
     anybody's help.
A. by his own
B. on his own
C. on himself
D. by his ownership
64. [It was no use] thinking that he would win the lottery.
A. There was no use
B. It was no point
C. It was no use
D. It was usefulness
65. If only I had had the courage to do this [years back].
A. years back.
B. for years.
C. since years.
D. in years.
66. Let's go to the theatre, [shall we?]
A. don't we?
B. let us?
C. shall we?
D. will we?
67. By this time tomorrow we [will have had] the meeting.
A. will have
B. will have had
C. are having
D. will had had
68. "We'll never be able to do it" said the man to
     nobody [in particular].
A. especially.
B. specially.
C. in particular.
D. himself.
Kiuhnm

 italiano? o sono solo io la demente?)
Yes, I did :-)
Kiuhnm

 Yes, I did :-)
And...?
ciao, Janis

 D. mustn't
Ecco forse qui e' il secondo errore, perche' ora rileggendola ho pensato a
early invece che late, e quindi forse ho fatto cosi' anche prima e ho messo
'have to'.
 ciao, Janis

 And...?
The answers were all correct.
Kiuhnm

 dipende cosa stai calcolando...
Shouldn't it be "How long does it take from Barcelona to Madrid?".
Well, I guess you can say either "How much does it cost" (formal) or 
"How much is it?" or even "How much?".
Perhaps they want you to be very formal.
For instance, they could prefer "Nor do I" to "Neither do I", even if 
most people say "Neither do I".
Kiuhnm

 Perhaps they want you to be very formal.
Of course they do.
ciao, Janis

 The answers were all correct.
So it's me... :(
ciao, Janis

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I cut&past-ed the text, but had to reanswer the questions one by one and 
recheck them on the site for extra safety.
Kiuhnm

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Cari io invece ho totalizzato solo 4/68, spero che da madrelinqua
napoletano non sia troppo male...
mi da persino un livello upper-intermediate!
ciao

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opppsss erano 46/68!!!

 opppsss erano 46/68!!!
That's better :-)
Kiuhnm

 D. mustn't
Ooops, ho messo "have to"... se magari arrivavo in fondo alla frase a 
leggere mi rendevo coto che era tardi ^^;
L'altra non la riesco a trovare! Pensavo fosse Heathrow o il taxi, ma 
son giuste entrambe... boh!
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 prima e ho messo 'have to'.
Allora è una cosa psicologica, mi conforta!

 Non è che dà a chiunque 66 a prescindere? 8-)
Cosi' parrebbe, ma ho scoperto che avevamo fatto lo stesso test
nel 2003 e mediamente i risultati erano stati peggiori (io avevo
totalizzato 63).
http://groups.google.com/group/it.cultura.linguistica.inglese/browse_frm/thread/80eeab4c742623da/d398a9e4ef38a4a3?tvc=1&fwc=1
A quanto pare e' sempre utile andar in giro per icling... :-)
ciao
Gennaro

 A quanto pare e' sempre utile andar in giro per icling... :-)
It doesn't rain on this ;-))
-- 
Ciao,
Anna

 italiano? o sono solo io la demente?)
No, ma mi piacerebbe. Dove si fa?
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Ciao,
Anna

 Me too, me too! :-))
Io l'avevo fatto due anni fa, e anch'io ne avevo sbagliate (indovina
indovina...) due! :-)
-- 
"And the whole Earth was of one language, and of one speech". 
(Genesis 11,1)

 No, ma mi piacerebbe. Dove si fa?
Potresti guardare, per esempio:
http://www.cvcl.it/canale.asp?id=80
e
http://www.unistrasi.it/pages/1.asp?cod=2943
anche se non sono esattamente quello che cerchi.

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Comunque interessante, grazie Adam. Sarebbe bello sottoporre a questo tipo
di esami tutti i neodiplomati di scuola superiore italiani... Tremo
all'idea! :)
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Ciao,
Anna

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Sono disponibile a sostenerlo, a patto di predisporlo io stesso ;-)))
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Boh? Su iclit una volta misero un link...ma non ricordo proprio.
ciao, Janis 

 
http://www.englishjet.com/english_courses_files/test_level.asp
63 su 68. Direi che è un pochino troppo facile... 

 [I've even rechecked them.]
[...]
63 su 68. Ma credo che il mio livello sia molto più basso...
Perché in questa frase...
She worked hard yesterday and [was able to] type all the letters
Non si può usare 'could' ? 

 Non si puň usare 'could' ? 
It is just a nuance. You can use "was/were (not) able to" when you want 
to emphasize the fact that somebody/something succeeded or failed to do 
something regarding a specific situation.
Kiuhnm

 63 su 68. Direi che è un pochino troppo facile...- >
sembra a me che tutti voi avete provato solo il test di livello, e
nessuno i test di riferimento elencati sulla sinistra

 something regarding a specific situation.
The affirmative "could" is used as a simple past of "can" mostly to
report the "ability to do something" ("saper fare"):
e.g. "When I was five I could already swim."
If it refers to the possibility of doing something in a certain
situation you use "was/were able to".
In this case "managed to" would also be correct.
Ciao
Claudia

 Claudia
Thanks ;-)

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Capperi, il frame sulla sinistra non l'avevo proprio visto! Grazie della 
dritta... 

 In this case "managed to" would also be correct.
could = potevo, potevi, ...
was/were able = potei, potesti, ...
Kiuhnm

 situation you use "was/were able to".
Sě. Se era al negativo andava bene anche "couldn't".
Tschau,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
-- 
Five by five. 

 Five by five.
Infatti, lo volevo aggiungere (e nella mia risposta avevo messo
infatti nella forma affermativa).
Non sono invece per nulla d'accordo con la traduzione schematica di
Kiuhnm , non si può ridurre la differenza tra could e was able to a
quella tra imperfetto e passato remoto di "potere"
"I could already swim when I was five" vuol dire "SAPEVO già nuotare a
cinque anni"
"When I went to Aquitane we could swim in the lake but not in the sea"
diventa "Quando andammo in Aquitania potevamo (ma forse anche
potemmo)  nuotare nel lago ma non nel mare."
In certi casi tradurre non va bene, specie nel caso dei verbi modali
ed espressioni equivalenti; è meglio capire i contesti in cui si usano
e i diversi significati possibili.
Ciao
Claudia

 Wow! 68/68 (7-expert)!
What the hell, only 67/68.
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 potemmo)  nuotare nel lago ma non nel mare."
You missed my point. You say "potevamo" when you are referring to a 
"general situation". You prefer "potemmo" when you are speaking of a 
particular situation.
Mine wasn't a translation, but an attempt to establish an analogy 
between Italian and English.
The message was "We Italian distinguish one case from the other as well, 
but we do that in a slightly different way".
Was I a bit too much concise? :-)
Kiuhnm

 D. least
That's what I got wrong. I thought of the correspective expression in 
Italian and picked "last". Now wait, why is Google reporting more than 
10.000 "last of my worries" entries? Sgrunt!
Tschau,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
-- 
Five by five. 

 particular situation. [...]
Who on earth says "potemmo" anyway?
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 Who on earth says "potemmo" anyway?
That's another story :-)
Kiuhnm

 10.000 "last of my worries" entries? Sgrunt!
Because Mr. Google only reflects what he's given, and what he's given he gets 
from humans who don't always know what they're saying.
GIGO!
-- 
Joey DoWop Dee
Remember: It is To Laugh.

 
Actually, I retract that last interjection: it's not necessarily garbage.
What I mean is, one can say "That's the last of my worries" and mean pretty 
much the same as "that's the least..."
The emphasis is slightly different.
I.e., "the least..." means I have worries of varying size or difficulty; that 
one is the smallest.
"the last" means I have many worries; I'll deal with that one last, after all 
the others.
Not enough of a difference to worry about.
However, my caveat as regards Google remains.
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 one is the smallest.
After all we say "... and last but not least...".
Kiuhnm