Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Beef??

Hello
Dunque mi sto imbattendo in una parola che sicuramente
ha un doppio senso ovvero BEEF... qualcuno sa se ha un significato
oltre quello culinario??
la frase da cui deriva è di una canzone
la metto qua sotto:
"What's beef?  Beef is when you need two gats to go to sleep
Beef is when your moms ain't safe up in the streets
Beef is when I see you"
mah.... 
Grazie a tutti
Ciao
Massi
PS: IsaZ come ti trovi con quella canzone?? è un po rognosetta vero? 
grazie mille per l'aiuto :)

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grazie mille per l'aiuto :)
Non me ne scordo, ci sto lavorando, ma devi avere un filo di pazienza!
Ciao
Isa
Work like you don't need money,
Love like you've never been hurt,
And dance like no one's watching


A parte il significato usuale di beef, leggo sull'Oxford English Dictionary:
a complaint, a grievance, termine slang americano in uso dalla fine del 19°
secolo.
Non lo sapevo neppure io.
Ciao. Stefy


A parte il solito significato mangereccio, trovo sull'Oxford English
dictionary: "a complaint, a grievance", termine slang americano, in uso
dalla fine del 19° secolo.
Non lo conoscevo neppure io questo significato. Sarà quello giusto.
Ciao
Stefy

 rapporto sessuale con un uomo ebreo.
Sei sicura tesoro che si trattava di un romanzo americano e non di una di
quelle stampe che leggi di solito?
Ammazza, ma tu non eri quella cyberfemmina liberata che non necessitava di
pornografia alcuna (e che poi gli dicono 'carne' e pensa subito alla scopata
con l'ebreo...tze)?:ppp (fregata)
Salude y fuerza al canutre.
RStrike-----nont'incazzareperòmeraccomando-------

RStrike-----nont'incazzareperòmeraccomando-------
As I have said elsewhere, dear, there's an endearing quality to your
approach that somehow prevents me from getting really pissed off at your
entries. It's inexplicable, but there you go. That said, though, I cannot
but remind you that this is it.cultura.linguistica.inglese (and not
it.fan.culo), so I would strongly advise you keep your posts in topic, if
only by writing in English (or American if you think that's what you write).
Yours in bewilderment,
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dtb
Thank you very much!!
Bye
Massi

Non me ne scordo, ci sto lavorando, ma devi avere un filo di pazienza!
no no...guarda che non volevo assolutamente intendere quello, ma
scherzi ???
è già troppo quello che stai facendo, non volevo affatto metterti
fretta o altro... volevo solo sapere come ti era sembrata, se c'erano
dei problemi con lo slang o altro... ti chiedevo solo le impressioni..
tutto qua :)
Mille grazie, sei veramente un tesoro!
Ciao 
Massi

   AVREBBE SCRITTO:  
:Hi Bambi
:I've read your translation and actually I think it's the right meaning
:>Whereas two cats (I presume it is cats) 
:
:mhhh...I'm not sure about that, the lyrics reported GATS with 'G'
:this is the complete verse:
:
:  ''All y'all dissapear by tomorrow
:    All your guns is borrowed, I don't feel sorrow
:    Actually, your man passed the gat to me, now check this
(snip)etc


GAT [gaet] = sl. (abbr. of Gatlin gun) REVOLVER, GUN
Bye Asoka xx'82
<< However fast you may run, you will never overreach the ball >>

Isa
Yes, Isa is right. RStrike shouldn't use this coarse language, since this NG
is serious, and moreover he
should write in English rather than in Italian. There are also polite ways
to express one's feelings and
opinions, and it is necessary to keep a certain level here. I also think he
will have no difficulties to find other
NGs that match his language and his will to fight thru words.
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Dear Asoka,
Indeed yes, thank you. I have just found out what a Gat is. A current status symbol among the street gangs. I'm a bit slow, but true and steady and I get there in the end.
Thank you again,
I remain, as always, ecc
Bambi
dtb

 NGs that match his language and his will to fight thru words.
Si si già me l'hai detto (usare lo stesso post per rispondere ad una persona
in due thread differenti è da assassino lo sapevi? **Usenet faq** ).

Per chi ascolta questo genere di canzone e vuole capire di più, ci sono
alcuni dizionari utili che spiegano la terminologia rap (in inglese):
http://www.rapdict.org
http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Alley/3763/rap_dictionary.html
Mary
(remove "nospam" to reply)
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98% of all dead owls don't give a hoot.

 (or American if you think that's what you write).
Mi hai preso per stupido? D'ya think i'm silly?
 > Yours in bewilderment,
I don't wanna see you bewildered. What i've done to get you so upset or
bewildered as you told me?
Yours in slave,
RStrike----themindfancooler----
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[1] [scusa. Mi stavo solo sfogando. Ancora sorry. ]

*meglio censurare* che si č messo in mezzo tra me e te.....).
Maybe you misunderstood me. I meant not to interfere in the relationship
between you and Isa : if she wants to hear such a language, she's totally
free to accept it.
But you CAN'T use this language with other people too, because it seems to
me that you did so.
I mean, if you want to speak like this to Isa, that is no problem at all to
me, but I don't want to hear your dirty words in other contexts any more.
Moreover, try to write better in English, and in Italian too : you could
succeed.
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 but I don't want to hear your dirty words in other contexts any more.
It'z a threat muthafucker? brrrrrrrrr

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It's not a threat, it's a piece of advice.
And, as usual, you couldn't help using coarse language. I had also told you
to try to write better, but I suppose
that nothing will make you change your mind, and your way of expressing too,
which besides reveals who the
writing person is. Furthermore I can't infer the reason why you are behaving
like this : after all, I only suggest
that you should write more politely, and that's all.
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You're welcome for my reply and I am glad it might have been of some help.
Sure you've been helpful :)
Thank you very much!
See You
Massi

It's not a threat, it's a piece of advice.
Asoka, dear, stop wasting your time and energy. Can't you see it's all to no
avail? Anyway, not that I feel I should, but I reign over one third of this
NG :-) and I want to say I'm sorry on RStr's behalf. Sorry.
Love,
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Isa
Yes, you're right. I accept your apologies, even if I'd prefer RStr's ones.
It is not worth struggling with such a person.
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