Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: penultima

Come potrei dire:
"Non hai letto la mia penultima email che ti ho mandato?"

 "Non hai letto la mia penultima email che ti ho mandato?"
"Have you read the last email I've sent you [1]? Well, not the last, the
one before".
[1] Two present perfects. Both right, at least in BritEng? Grammatical, if
nothing else?
Bye, FB
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> "Non hai letto la mia penultima email che ti ho mandato?"
Didn't you read the second-to-last email that I sent you? 

 nothing else?
No, it should be "Have you read the last e-mail I sent you?"
I would have said, "Haven't you read my last e-mail but one?"
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Mary

"Mary Cassidy" <ma...@invalid.invalid> ha scritto nel messaggio
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A titolo di completezza, esiste "penultimate", anche se in una conversazione
normale non lo usa nessuno (a parte i Monthy Python in una scena memorabile
su Michelangelo e la "penultima cena").
saluti
Giordano VI

one before".
penultimo/a: next to the last.
bye
ari

 Bye, FB
"Didn't you read the next-to-last e-mail I sent you?"
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This is my opinion of modern, colloquial, American English. 
If you feel the need to e-mail me, un-not my address first.

 "Didn't you read the next-to-last e-mail I sent you?"
Da voi non si dice "last but one"?
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Mary

 Da voi non si dice "last but one"?
Although the meaning is clear, it's not common here.
(I just made a short poem. :)
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 (I just made a short poem. :)
You should still work a little on the metrics, though. :)
Max
 

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"Although the meaning is clear, it's not all that common here".
Bye, FB
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"Is this Miss Prism a female of repellent aspect, remotely connected with
education?" "She is the most cultivated of ladies, and the very picture of
respectability" "It is obviously the same person".
("The Importance of Being Earnest", Oscar Wilde)

 Bye, FB
The meaning is clear, but it's not common here.
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Never. It sounds quaint and very British to us.
Also, ante-penult, penult, and ultima would only be used by linguists
discussing accented syllables.
Joe from Massachusetts

 but it's not common here.
The second verse has one syllable too many (hasn't it?). Too bad, because I
was about to write:
This time thine is
Better than mine.
Bye, FB
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"Che cos'è un fallo da tergo? E non stiamo parlando della tua vita
privata."
(Intervista della Gialappa's Band a Elisabetta Canalis)

 "Non hai letto la mia penultima email che ti ho mandato?"
In questo thread ho letto più di una volta il termine: second-to-last. Io  
l'ho trovato senza quel "to" centrale: second-last. Dovrebbe essere  
corretta anche questa forma, che mi dite?
--
JFC
"Call me a safe bet,
I'm betting I'm not."

 corretta anche questa forma, che mi dite?
Non l'ho mai sentito 'second-last' ma invece 'second-to-last' o 
'next-to-last'. 

 Better than mine.
BaBa
BBaB
Bah!
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 corretta anche questa forma, che mi dite?
Here you'd have to write out the "to", I think (as well as say it).
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 Just how does *that* parse?
My poem was horrid, I was too sleepy.
Bye, FB
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In any case, if you say 'I gotta go' at an important job interview you're
contributing to being allowed just that privilege.
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