Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Wuthering

Egregi®,
"wuthering" sembra essere aggettivo in disuso, o almeno poco utilizzato. 
E mi sembra non sia mai entrato nell'inglese americano. O mi sbaglio?
E che dire della pronuncia? Singolare che quel /wu venga letto /ua.
Altre parole in cui il gruppo /wut /wuth viene letto /ua /uàth ce ne 
sono?
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 E che dire della pronuncia? Singolare che quel /wu venga letto /ua.
Io userei l'u di "cup", ma magari mi sbaglierei.
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 Io userei l'u di "cup", ma magari mi sbaglierei.
Kate Bush (che è del Kent) pronuncia come puoi sentire qui nella sua 
bellissima versione canora di quel libro. Ho fatto caricare l'mp3 su un 
sito:
http://paoloamero.com:8080/radio/
Bello anche l'uso del verbo "pine".
Qui il testo completo:
Wuthering heights Lyrics
Artist(Band):Kate Bush
Out on the wiley, windy moors 
We'd roll and fall in green. 
You had a temper like my jealousy: 
Too hot, too greedy. 
How could you leave me, 
When I needed to possess you? 
I hated you. I loved you, too. 
Bad dreams in the night. 
They told me I was going to lose the fight, 
Leave behind my wuthering, wuthering 
Wuthering Heights. 
Heathcliff, it's me-- I'm Cathy. 
I've come home now so cold! 
Let me in-a-your window. 
Heathcliff, it's me-- I'm Cathy. 
I've come home now so cold! 
Let me in-a-your window. 
Ooh, it gets dark! It gets lonely, 
On the other side from you. 
I pine a lot. I find a lot 
Falls through without you. 
I'm coming back, love. 
Cruel Heathcliff, my one dream, 
My only master. 
Too long I roam in the night. 
I'm coming back to his side, to put it right. 
I'm coming home to wuthering, wuthering, 
Wuthering Heights, 
Heathcliff, it's me-- I'm Cathy. 
I've come home now cold! 
Let me in-a-your window. 
Heathcliff, it's me-- I'm Cathy. 
I've come home now so cold! 
Let me in-a-your window. 
Ooh! Let me have it. 
Let me grab your soul away. 
Ooh! Let me have it. 
Let me grab your soul away. 
You know it's me--Cathy! 
Heathcliff, it's me-- I'm Cathy. 
I've come home. I'm so cold! 
Let me in-a-your window. 
Heathcliff, it's me-- I'm Cathy. 
I've come home now so cold! 
Let me in-a-your window. 
Heathcliff, it's me-- I'm Cathy. 
I've come home now so cold!
Heathcliff, it's me--I'm Cathy
I've come home I'm now so cold!
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 sono?
Cercando "wut" su 
wordreference.com
 si evince che non esistono altre parole
che comincino con quelle tre lettere. Almeno, così mi pare.
Ciao, FB
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che comincino con quelle tre lettere. Almeno, cosě mi pare.
There's "wut" (violent or frenzied anger; an outburst of this. From
German), "wuther (alteration of whither to rush, bluster, hurl
dialect English : to blow with a dull roaring sound), "Wutzke" (a very
rare surname), some acronyms like WUTS or WUTSOP , some weird places
like Wutsin (the older spelling of Wujiin) or Wutai Shan and nothing
more.
Sebastiano


I'm a Yorkshireman , born not far from Bronteland , and I later lived a
couple of miles or so from Top Withens (the supposed setting of 'Wuthering
Heights') ; I spoke broad Yorkshire until I was a teenager , but I've never
heard 'wuthering' used by anyone who hadn't got 'Wuthering Heights' in mind
.
In so far as it is (or was) a Yorkshire dialect word , it would have the
deep , gruff Yorkshire sound (the 'wu' would sound rather like a dog
barking) , but ordinary Englishmen would pronounce it as Adam says (as in
'cup') .
Mike

 
Thanks for that input, Mike. I've always thought that wuthering was just 
a local or dialectical pronunciation of "w(h)ithering." In my 
unprofessional opinion, your comment lends credence to my suspicion, 
particularly given the local pronunciation you suggest. 
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 'cup') .
The Yorkshire pronunciation of "u" is pretty similar to the Italian
pronunciation.
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Mary


We seem to have lived in London at the same time (later sixties) as well as
the Halifax area  -  what a pity (from my point of view) that our paths
diverged when you went to live in Italy !  I was actually born in
Knottingley ('Knottla') , and lived at various places in the West Riding
until I was eighteen ; then I lived in Oxenhope (in an old barn , converted
, which the Brontes would have seen as they passed that way !) from '73 to
'80 whilst I was working in Halifax . Bet you miss it now !
Mike

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Well, you may be right , though Emily Bronte does provide her own gloss in
the first chapter of the novel : ' Wuthering Heights is the name of Mr.
Heathcliff's dwelling , 'Wuthering' being a significant provincial adjective
, descriptive of the atmospheric tumult  to which its station is exposed in
stormy weather.' Far from conclusive , I agree , but it inclines me a bit
more to the view that it's a dialect word that's fallen into disuse .
One source says it's from the dialect word 'wuther' , to roar or bluster ,
related to the Norse hvitha , squall ; but with no evidence quoted , I
suspect an explanation manufactured to fit the case .
The French , I think , call it 'Les Hauts de Hurlevents' (howling winds) -
do they know something we don't ? Mind you ,  'withering' doesn't obviously
offer any catchy titles , at least as far as my modest knowledge of French
goes .
Mike

 
And one source I came across (I'm sorry I don't remember which) said it 
was likely derived from "whither", which it cited as a British 
colloquialism for "to roar, to bluster"
I do remember the reference in the novel itself, page 1, second or third 
paragraph, as I recall.
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Ah! Wondered what the bracketed 'h' signified in your original post ! I have
to say I have never heard or read that usage , which seems to me even more
suspect than the explanation I quoted . It's a pity Yorkshire dialect novels
of the nineteenth century are so thin on the ground .
Mike

 the Halifax area
Are you sure you've never been married together?
Bye, FB
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