Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Pleased to know you

 Sentito in un programma TV.
Sounds foreign to me. Could be used in the States?
Ciao!
Zz

 Sounds foreign to me. Could be used in the States?
That's what I thought. I am pleased with myself.
American English often seems more like Italian to me.
Bye, FB

 American English often seems more like Italian to me.
Most broken English is often incorrectly reported as being "American", "I heard
that in the US". That doesn't make it correct AmE, I would argue that there are
so many non native (pr half native) speakers in US. I don't know off-hand for
this case though, I wouldn't use that expression anyway.
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Giovanni Bajo

 Sentito in un programma TV.
Mi correggo. Per la precisione è
"Glad to know you!"
Lo dice un medico donna, la Dr Shelvy, mentre viene presentata 
all'agente Cooper, nel pilot di Twin Peaks.
Una normale presentazione, i due si stringono la mano.

 this case though, I wouldn't use that expression anyway.
I didn't mean 'Incorrect, therefore American'. I was just thinking that
(correct) American English is often more like Italian than British English.
Bye, FB

 British English.
An example?
-- 
Giovanni Bajo

 An example?
Per esempio, mi sembra, il non invertire l'ordine delle parole in
molte frasi brevi interrogative.
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 Una normale presentazione, i due si stringono la mano.
This is certainly American. It sounds "quaint" so may well be a regional
expression. It sounds peculiar to me and I imagine would sound out of place
in a business setting.
I wouldn't say it was broken English though. I agree with FB.
Zz

Enrico C wrote:
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Scusa, Enrico, quando cambi il soggetto, puoi mantenere il "re:"?
Altrimenti sembra che tu abbia cominciato un nuovo filone, almeno in
Netscape.
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Mary

 Netscape.
In effetti, da un certo punto di vista, *è* un nuovo filone.
Da un altro punto di vista, invece, è ancora il vecchio filone!
-- 
Enrico C
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 Da un altro punto di vista, invece, è ancora il vecchio filone!
In genere io metto il titolo nuovo con quello vecchio tra parentesi.
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Mary

 Da un altro punto di vista, invece, è ancora il vecchio filone!
Tecnicamente, però, è pur sempre una risposta a un altro post, quindi
lo stesso thread.
Molti newsreader permettono il threading per References, ovvero
mostrano un unico thread in ogni caso anche se il Subject è stato
modificato (oppure permettono di scegliere quale comportamento si
preferisce, come fa Dialog).
Dal tuo messaggio arguisco, correggimi se sbaglio, che Netscape
richiede però che il Subject cominci per Re: , altrimenti lo considera
in ogni caso un nuovo thread...
Crossposto su ICSN dove magari c'è chi ne sa di più e potrebbe dare
qualche consiglio tecnico  :)
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Enrico C

 in ogni caso un nuovo thread...
Se ordino i messaggi per filoni, lo vedo nello stesso thread, ma se
(come faccio normalmente) gli ordino per data, lo vedo come l'inizio di
un nuovo thread se ometti il "Re:".
Sto usando una vecchia versione di Netscape (4.79). 
 
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Mary

 molte frasi brevi interrogative.
Lo fanno tranquillamente anche gli inglesi. E' solo linguaggio parlato.
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Giovanni Bajo

 An example?
There is a certain amount of truth in this.
The only examples that come to mind at present are that the Americans
still use the subjunctive much more than we do, and have a penchant for
long words: e.g. an American will say "utilized" when we would say
"used".
-- 
Mary

 I wouldn't say it was broken English though. I agree with FB.
I would say that it's a perfectly natural expression and not quaint at all.
Allow for a little variation in choice of words. We don't all use the same
common expressions without fail. I doubt that anyone would bat an eye in the
US upon hearing it said. (Certainly not agent Cooper who epitomizes
'peculiar'.)

 "used".
Are you implying that most Italian words are long, or longer than English? As
for the specific example, you well know we do say both "usato" and "utilizzato"
as well, and the former is probably more common.
I'm still not buying this but I'm intrigued, mind giving me other examples? :)
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Giovanni Bajo

 'peculiar'.)
Perhaps this influenced the choice of phrase. But I doubt it.
The expression remains colloquial and American in my view.
Zz

 An example?
I agree with Enrico and Mary. I'll let you know, if any other instance comes
to my mind.
Bye, FB

 The expression remains colloquial and American in my view.
Why do you say it's colloquial?
Bye, FB

> You've started agreeing with me. But how does one bat an eye? LOL
So that no one confuses this expression with 'blind as a bat' or wonders
about being blinded by a bat...
Webster's Unabridged
bat (3), v.t., batted, batting. 1. Informal, to blink, wink, flutter. 2. not
bat an eye, Informal, to show no emotion or surprise; maintain a calm
exterior: She didn't bat an eye when he spilled a drink on her dress. [var.
of BATE]

Tony the ice man
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Quoting an American dictionary at me won't help. I always thought the
expression was "not bat an eyelid". Which of the following sounds right?
She did not bat an eye.
She did not bat an eyelid.
As M-W has the former, this must be yet another Anglo-American variation.
What do you think Mary? Batting an eye just doesn't sound possible to me. ;)
Zz

 Why do you say it's colloquial?
It seems informal and is more suitable for speech.

 As M-W has the former, this must be yet another Anglo-American variation.
The Oxford English Dictionary lists 'bat' as a transitive verb and give the
example 'to bat the eyes' meaning 'to move the eyelids quickly, to wink'.
The expression is identified as used both in dialect and in the US.

 What do you think Mary? Batting an eye just doesn't sound possible to me. ;)
I was about to post an almost identical answer.
It's evidently another GB/US difference; "batting an eyelid" is the only
correct expression in GB. It also sonds more logical to me :-)
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Mary

 The expression is identified as used both in dialect and in the US.
So not standard English...

 comes to them I'm just colorblind.
                         ^^^^^
That was deliberate, was it? :-)
--
Mary

 I'm just colorblind.
Isn't it "colour-blind" in British English?
Bye, FB

 ha scritto nel messaggio
news:40488049...@privacy.net...
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Why don't I understand what you mean?
Bye, FB

 Isn't it "colour-blind" in British English? 
Precisely! That's why Mary noticed that ;))
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 Isn't it "colour-blind" in British English? 
That's why Mary noticed that in the first place, I guess ;)
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 Isn't it "colour-blind" in British English?
Why did she underline "I'm just"?
Bye, FB

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I underlined "color".
It appears correctly on my screen.
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Mary

 So not standard English...
Yes, standard English as spoken by native speakers in the US. Idiomatic
expressions have meanings that may be loosely based on the meaning of the
individual words. The OED does not even list 'bat the eyelids' but does list
'bat the eyes'. The meaning of that expression is 'show surprise' and comes
from action of blinking an eye when surprised. A Google search of 'bat an
eye' results in 16,100 sites. A Google search of 'bat an eyelid' results in
6,900 sites. I hope this gives you an idea of the bigger picture.


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Yep. Of course one has to have set a monospaced font, like Courier.
Hint for OE users: "Visualizza" "Carattere" "Fisso" :)
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 6,900 sites. 
I didn't bat an eyelash while reading those figures :))

 Hint for OE users: "Visualizza" "Carattere" "Fisso" :)
Denghiu. Non č che il Courier mi appeali piů di tanto, ma tant'č.
Ciao, FB

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Neanche a me piace troppo, quindi non lo uso.
Perň in Dialog, se hai bisogno di vedere momentaneamente un testo con la
spaziatura fissa, basta fare Ctrl+M e il gioco č fatto.
-- 
Maria Luisa C - 06/03/04 9.39.42, here.
Le FAQ italiane del newsreader 40tude Dialog
http://fido.altervista.org/Dialog/faq.html
http://www.lillathedog.net/dialog/faq.html

 spaziatura fissa, basta fare Ctrl+M e il gioco č fatto.
Perň da me non č cosě. Forse hai assegnato tu Ctrl+M alla
visualizzazione a spaziatura fissa?
(con Dialog si possono assegnare i tasti ai comandi come si vuol :)
(e ora anche da me č cosě .... :))
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