Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: "can't get sheep's head for love or money"

Che significa questa frase??????
Non l'ho trovata sui dizionari come espressione idiomatica, non c'è su
google come frase intera...
Il contesto:
documentario sui viaggi, il giornalista arriva in un hotel della Mauritania
dopo una settimana di deserto, dice che non è proprio un 4 stelle ma ha le
sue comodità, si beve una birra e pensa alla moglie, dicendo questa frase.
Che vordì? :)
Thanks!
Davide

Il Mon, 15 Aug 2005 00:57:12 +0200, Polvere ha scritto:
ah, e poi aggiunge:
"Can I do with warthog soup?"
Non ho la piů pallida idea di cosa significhi tutto ciň... :-O

 Non ho la più pallida idea di cosa significhi tutto ciò...
A sheep's head is a sheep's head. A warthog is and African wild pig.
"Soak a well-cleaned sheep's head in warm water for three hours. Put
it to boil with just enough water to cover. When it starts to boil add
1 carrot and 1 onion, both sliced, 3 sprigs of parsley, 3 teaspoons
salt and 1 teaspoon pepper. Simmer for about two hours or until the
meat is tender. Remove the meat from the bones, skin the tongue, and
serve both together. It may be served with an onion, caper, or tomato
sauce."
http://www.catholicculture.org/lit/recipes/view.cfm?id=138
"The Weber would be perfect for roasting warthog! Follow a recipe for
pork roast (hope you've got a copy of Shirley Guy and Marti Klinzman's
Weber Cookbook) and you shouldn't go wrong. Wish I was there to enjoy
it with you; warthog is my absolute best!"
http://www.food24.com/Food24/Components/AskLannice/AnswerDetails/0,11005,566,00.html
If you can roast a warthog, I guess you can make soup from it too.
Joe from Massachusetts

 A sheep's head is a sheep's head. A warthog is and African wild pig.
Ah, Pumba? :)
How odd, I searched "warthog" in my dictionary, but no result. Now, I tried
with "facocero", and the translation do is "warthog"... 
Anyway....
And what about the object? I know that a sheep's head is a sheep's head,
but...what does he mean with that expression?
Bye
Davide

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He's tired of Big Macs, and longs for the taste of a nice sheep's head
dinner, but he's afraid he'll have to make do with warthog soup.
Joe from Massachusetts

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Maybe it's "for love or money" you don't understand.
It means "at any cost, at any price", and is usually used in a
negative
sense, referring to something undesirable.
"I wouldn't work there for love or money". "I wouldn't live
in Milan for love or money."
Joe from Massachusetts

 Non ho la più pallida idea di cosa significhi tutto ciò... :-O
Premessa:
1. la "zuppa di testa di pecora" è considerata una squisitezza della 
cucina musulmana.
2. warthog = facocero.
3. "... for love or money" è una forma idiomatica, con la quale si 
indica l'impossibilità di fare o ottenere qualcosa.
Quindi, io tradurrei così:
"Non riuscirei a procurarmi una [zuppa] di testa di pecora per tutto 
l'oro del mondo. Posso accontentarmi di una zuppa di facocero?"
ciao.
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pad

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Ahhhhhhhh ecco! :))))))))))
Yep, that was the problem! 
Thank you very much!
Davide

 l'oro del mondo. Posso accontentarmi di una zuppa di facocero?"
Vedi risposta a Joe!
Grazie mille anche a te! :)

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dmonne...@firenze.net
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Ciao Davide, 
In Ingleterre we still say for "love NOR money". Meaning "everything has 
been tried & failed" or "nothing will make it happen" It is probably a 
shortening if the phrase "neither for love nor money"
Which some people think is the origin of the use of "love" in tennis to 
mean Zero:
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The first Wimbledon Championship was held in 1877 and saw the 
introduction of the scoring system used today. Scoring for the game 
consisted initially of 15, 30, 40 and the origins of this are not clear. 
The term  deuce  derives from the French word  deux  where an advantage 
of two points has to be gained. The term  love  has 2 possible origins, 
firstly, from the French word l'oeuf  or egg symbolising nothing or 
secondly, from the English phrase  neither for love nor money 
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Also used in a song by the Allman Bros. & you can't get a lot more 
american than that!
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Allman Brothers Band
Stand Back
(Gregg Allman, Berry Oakley)
I recall once upon a time
Livin' was so easy and I felt so fine
But, my, my, my
Right before my very eyes
Satan came with fire to burn me
Wouldn't listen when they warned me
A dagger in my back
While she's calling me honey wouldn't stand back
For neither love nor money
Thirty minutes after my ship set sail
She put up a sign and my house began to wail.......
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It is quite commonly used in conversation here and understood completely 
by all native English speakers"
Do you have anything similar in Italian I can use?
Pip pip
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Chris Notton
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 Do you have anything similar in Italian I can use?
"Per forza o per amore" = "for love or money", I think!
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I'm a Dream!!! 

 "Per forza o per amore" = "for love or money", I think!
Io direi più
"non c'è verso di" ... (per forza o per amore non mi pare tanto usato in
italiano)

 in italiano)
come no?
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 come no?
Bah, almeno non dalle mie parti (intendo nel linguaggio corrente)