Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: am I finished?

maybe a silly question but  I'd like to know what an expression such as "I
am finished, I was finished" means?
Would you please explain it to me?
thank you
Ciao
CC

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I've never heard that expression. Does it come with some context?
Raymot
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I've never heard that expression. Does it come with some context?
You serious Ray? There was a thread about this very expression here, not so
long ago. 'I am finished' simply means 'ho finito', and also 'e' finita'...
as in 'I'm finished with you'.
Just as I was finished talking to X on the phone, Y called.
Ciao
Isa
Work like you don't need money,
Love like you've never been hurt,
And dance like no one's watching

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 I've never heard that expression. Does it come with some context?
"To be finished" is something like "aver finito", so "I'm finished" = ho finito.
Aren't you finished yet?
Anna

Isa
I'm sorry. I thought the question was about the expression
"I am finished, I was finished". I assumed this because that 
is the question that was asked.
Raymot
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Ciao,
Dario.
ITA

 <<You must be pulling our legs ;Raymot , dear !!!
I wouldn't say "dear" to a man, if I were you.  :-))
Mary
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You are always clipping my wings , Mary dear !

Madonna imbellettata che si spupazza Raoul Bova?
Amen to this one.
Janis

    Mary Cassidy  wrote in message
    >     Salvatore Santangelo ha scritto:
        > > <<You must be pulling our legs ;Raymot , dear !!!
                > I wouldn't say "dear" to a man, if I were you.  :-))
Well now, there are certain situations when it would indeed be most
appropriate, are there not?
I remain, as always, ecc
Bambi
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Of course there are, but my impression was that they didn't apply to Sal.
You never can tell, though, can you?  :-))
Mary
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 wings.
What a lovely expression!
Mary
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No, I'm not gay.  I'm British and just wanted a cigarette.

You never can tell, though, can you?  :-))
<<Learning such intricacies of the English language from the behaviouristic
point of view
    in my old age after so many years of honourable service for the afore
mentioned lingo makes
     a man want to point Anna Martini's Luger to his own head and end it
all.
     I guess I was trying to wriggle my way out of my bummer of a situation,
trying to make a silk purse
     out of my sow's ear of an ignorance.
     I don't love you Raymot and from now on I will try to mend my ways.
     The monarchs of this realm are strict but fair and I'll humbly lower my
head and wait for Ash Wednesday.
     Sal
      Saying his beads like Richard III before being proclaimed King

 No, I'm not gay.  I'm British and just wanted a cigarette.
Mary, I am sorry.  I don't get it.  Can you clue me in?
(YOu know how dumb I am when it comes to witty remarks!)
ciao
Arianna
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Fag in British English means cigarette.
(For any of the others who don't know, in US English it's an impolite
word for homosexual.)
Mary
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" Fag in British English means cigarette.
Non e` piu` propriamente "cicca" (sempre in British E.)?
Comunque ci deve essere una qualche intervista di John Lennon che definiva
Brian Epstein come "fag", quindi il significato americano non e` ignoto in
UK.
.mau.

 Fag in British English means cigarette.
Thanks.  No wonder I didn't get it!  You know how dumb I am when it
comes to British English.
bye
arianna
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 UK.
Was Epstein gay?  I thought he had committed suicide over Marianne
Faithful's rejection.
Anyway, it was a great loss.
ciao
arianna
PS:  Sorry about the off topic
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 Was Epstein gay?  I thought he had committed suicide
Now I am thinking...............
.......I don't know why, but this verb doesn't sound right in the past
perfect.  Any comments?
bye
arianna
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     I don't love you Raymot....
Well, this is a sad thing to say!
Hand in glove
The sun shines out of our behinds
No, it's not like any other love
This one is different because it's us
Hand in glove
We can go wherever we please
And everything depends upon
How near you stand to me
And if the people stare, then the people stare
I really don't know and I really don't care...
(The Smiths, Hand In Glove, 1984)

word for homosexual.)
Short for Faggot , I gather
I have found out the word is of French origin, means "bag of sticks and was
used as early as 1300.
Sal

Are you sure we should go out together regarless of what people say ?
Are you talking to Raymot or to me? Hey, now that you make me think about
it, why not the three of us? :-)
As for the introduction, well...
Please allow me to introduce myself
I'm a *girl* of wealth and taste
[...]
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what's puzzling you is the nature of my game...
Uh- Uuuh!
Sympathetic
Anna


It doesn't sound 100% right to me either; I would have said "I thought he
committed suicide".
I'm not sure why; personally, I mostly use the past perfect in cases where
you'd use a past subjunctive in Italian (e.g. if you had seen the film,
you would have liked it).
Mary
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       Saying his beads like Richard III before being proclaimed King
"Telling his beads".
:-))
Mary
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"Gay"  è conosciutissimo in Inghilterra, "fag" molto meno. Forse perché,
essendo una parola offensiva, non si sente molto in TV.
Certo, chi lavoro nel mondo dello spettacolo o ha viaggiato/vissuto negli USA
come John Lennon la conoscerebbe bene.
Invece, come vedi dalla risposta di Arianna, pochi americani sanno che "fag"
per noi significa "sigaretta".
Mary
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A gay in New York is just a fag in L.A. - Mick Jagger

Uh- Uuuh!
<<<<I didn't know we were birds of a feather !
          Ah-Aahh!
         Sal
         AKA
         OLD NICK

"Telling his beads".
   When you read this  the chilly waters of Adige will have taken care of my
useless body.
I don't have a reason left to live.
Sanity has deserted me.
Besides I can't bear the humiliation of standing in the dock of  this
tribunal.
I know I have called it upon myself but nevertheless.....
I hope you  will remember the good times we spent together and the laughter
still echoing in my
lugs.
Downhearted
Sal

useless body.
...And while they mourn and search for your swollen corpse, we'll be merrily
drinking Chardonnay (I don't think that's an Aussie wine, but who cares) and
singing in jolly Australia! :-)))
Anna
(pour me another shot, Ambrogio...)

 Sal
LOL.
That would have been very poetic if you hadn't ruined the effect with the
mundane slang word "lugs". :-))
Cheer up, though - "telling one's beads" is an expression that very few English
people know either (England not being a Catholic country, rosaries are
practically non-existent).
Mary
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slippery. -- Ambrose Bierce

 I don't love you Raymot and from now on I will try to mend my ways.
I know this is all meant to be a big joke, or so at least I think, but I
wonder.
Why do we all assume and presume so many things. That if we're not gay and
have no gay feelings, and we know a thing or two about a person we're
addressing a 'fun' post to, nobody else does, too. Especially posting on a
newsgroup, therefore addressing a broader public than we think. Not all
audiences are known. Not everybody might understand/appreciate/share the
joke. Let's stop to consider for a second that someone reading the post
might be gay.
I'm not really sure why, but somehow it's not so funny anymore.
Isa
Work like you don't need money,
Love like you've never been hurt,
And dance like no one's watching


Scusate se rispondo in italiano. E' che voglio dirlo bene.
Ho avvertito lo stesso tuo vago disagio, Isa, a leggere quello scambio di
battute, e ho trascritto quel pezzetto di canzone degli Smiths perché mi
sembrava che, senza prediche, potesse fare un po' di luce. Spero di esserci
riuscita. A volte si ha bisogno di aprire un po' meglio gli occhi (le
orecchie, il cuore) e ricordarsi che non siamo tutti uguali. Ed è
assolutamente questo il bello, imho.
Ciao
Anna
(gnegnegnegne, Tozzi è sempre dei '70!!!!!:-))))))))))))))

Anna
Risponderň anche io in Italiano.
Avete sicuramente ragione dicendo che in un newsgroup ci si rivolge ad un
pubblico piů ampio.
Il mio , come spesso succede con me, era il solito tentativo di  "show off
" la mia presunta conoscenza dell' inglese e come al solito sono incappato
nel solito errore di registro linguistico. Quello che ne č seguito ,
sbaglierň forse, non lo trovo di cattivo gusto.
Avro peccato di assumption e presumption , ma vorrei qui ribadire il mio
assoluto amore per tutte le razze,
e la mia completa indifferenza per i gusti sessuali di chicchessia , ferma
restando l' indifferenza degli altri  per i miei.
X Anna
This " exchange" has opened my eyes I hope.
Spero di essermi spiegato e se ho sbagliato , mi scuso con tutto il cuore.
Yours and Theirs
Sal

(gnegnegnegne, Tozzi è sempre dei '70!!!!!:-))))))))))))))
Guarda che mio fratello grande e' davvero grande, e quando ha finito con
Peltio puo' picchiare anche te. Senza complimenti, eh! :-))))))))))))))))))
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Avro peccato di assumption e presumption,
Caro Salvatore,
se pensassi che _tu_ hai peccato o che chiunque altro sia direttamente
responsabile di una caduta di gusto cercherei di scriverglielo in privato.
Io non ho inteso gettare croci addosso a nessuno in particolare: o, se
preferisci, a tutti, me compresa. Chi e' senza peccato...
Baci
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preferisci, a tutti, me compresa. Chi e' senza peccato...
All right mate !
(Si può usare anche per le donne !)

Peltio puo' picchiare anche te. Senza complimenti, eh! :-))))))))))))))))))
Mi rendo conto che qualcuno, all'idea, potrebbe anche "shiver with
antici-pation", come diceva Tim Curry in Rocky Horror Picture Show... Con
tutto il debito rispetto per gli eventuali masochisti all'ascolto, be', non
è il mio caso... perciò mi ritiro in buon ordine, ovviamente senza voltare
le spalle... :-)))
Ciau
Liberally yours - and theirs (scusa Sal ma mi è piaciuta troppo)
Anna

Peltio
Ecco, sì...
AHIA
sarebbe anche ora che  AHIA se ne andasse da un'altra parte.
Anche perchè AHIA, NO IL BRACCIO NO!  mi si è stabilito in casa e ogni
giorno AHIAHIA prima di picchiarmi mi svuota pure il frigo.
Ma ti OUCH! sembra il modo?
AHIA,
Peltio

(Si può usare anche per le donne !)
Ah...se sei australiano lo usi continuamente! :)
(Io mai usato nemmeno per gli uomini)
Janis


I might be pathologically fond of informal language but I was under the
impression
that the afore mentioned expression was universally used and accepted.
Country squires sitting by their fireplace scratching their dog's neck and
placidly smoking
their pipes might not be in the habit but I thought the average English
speaking person (not an American)
was very likely to use it when addressing a friend, or in some cases a total
stranger.
But who am I mistaken ?
Sal
The Cranberry

The Cranberry
Molto furbo, e abbastanza poetico. Quasi compensa per i prossimi diciotto giorni
dell'alfabeto.
Ciao,
Ron
USA

The Cranberry
No, you're right, mate. The other guy's mistaken.
Ciao, 
Raymot
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 I'm not really sure why, but somehow it's not so funny anymore.
I'm really sorry that you and Anna gained a bad impression - nothing I wrote
was intended to be offensive in any way. That doesn't mean I think it's totally
inappropriate to make jokes about homosexuality, just as long as they aren't
offensive; IMO if you can't make jokes at all about a given class of people,
that's just another way of marginalising them. The problem is, of course, that
not everybody has the same ideas about humour, so what seems perfectly harmless
to one person may seem offensive to another.
Mary
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 think and act from this standpoint whether we realise it or not.
Yes, you're right. I tend to think I'm very open-minded, but I probably
have a lot of conditioning that I don't even realise. I promise to be
extra careful with jokes in future.
Mary
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