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Titolo: Euill, cosa sarebbe?

Stavo leggiucchiando qualcosa dall'Enrico VIII di Shakespeare sul sito del 
Progetto Guttemberg, quando mi sono imbattuto in questa riga
"Mens euill manners, liue in Brasse, their Vertues
We write in Water."
Il significato lo comprendo, ma euill cos'è? Esiste davvero? E' un errore di 
battitura? Un arcaismo?
Non l'ho trovato né sul dizionario cartaceo né su quelli on-line.
-- 
Nico
"Haec immatura a me iam frustra leguntur oy" 

 Non l'ho trovato né sul dizionario cartaceo né su quelli on-line.
sara' "evil"?

 Non l'ho trovato né sul dizionario cartaceo né su quelli on-line.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/246300.html
 

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You're reading a reprint of the First Folio (1623) - 'v' is often printed as 
'u' : you can see it three times in these few lines from the Prologue :
'The Subiect will deserue it. Such as giue
Their Money out of hope they may beleeue,
May heere finde Truth too. '
Mike 

 sara' "evil"?
Mi sono spiegato male. :)
Ci ero arrivato che era evil (quello intendevo quando dicevo che il 
significato l'ho compreso), volevo solo capire se era un errore, un 
arcaismo o cosa. :)
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http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/246300.html
Ancora più evidente che non sono stato chiaro. :)
Avevo capito cosa volevano dire i termini "strani", mi chiedevo solo se 
fosse qualcosa tipo un errore di un OCRo forme che, boh, esistono in 
qualche modo (vis). :)
Il fatto è che il sito del progetto Guttemberg di solito è molto 
attendibile, quindi ho pensato che magari all'origine la frase poteva 
avere una forma più antiquata e le versioni che si trovano solitamente 
sono modernizzazioni. Oppure sesemplicemente hanno usato l'OCR e poi non 
hanno controllato. :-p
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 printed as 'u' :
Very interesting, I didn't know it. Is it usual for that period?
And what about the double L?
Thank you.
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 Very interesting, I didn't know it. Is it usual for that period?
V  
In M.E., -u- and -v- were used interchangeably, though with a
preference for v- as the initial letter (vnder, vain, etc.) and -u-
elsewhere (full, euer, etc.). The distinction into consonant and
vowel identities was established in Eng. by 1630, under influence of
continental printers, but into 19c. some dictionaries and other
catalogues continued to list -u- and -v- words as a single series. No
native Anglo-Saxon words begin in v- except those (vane, vat, vixen)
altered by the southwestern England habit of replacing initial f-
with v- (and initial s- with z-). Confusion of -v- and -w- was also a
characteristic of 16c. Cockney accents.
[...]
Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper 
Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary
V
V\ (v[=e]). 1. V, the twenty-second letter of the English alphabet,
is a vocal consonant. V and U are only varieties of the same
character, U being the cursive form, while V is better adapted for
engraving, as in stone. The two letters were formerly used
indiscriminately, and till a comparatively recent date words
containing them were often classed together in dictionaries and other
books of reference (see U). The letter V is from the Latin alphabet,
where it was used both as a consonant (about like English w) and as a
vowel. The Latin derives it from it from a form (V) of the Greek
vowel [Upsilon] (see Y), this Greek letter being either from the same
Semitic letter as the digamma F (see F), or else added by the Greeks
to the alphabet which they took from the Semitic. Etymologically v is
most nearly related to u, w, f, b, p; as in vine, wine; avoirdupois,
habit, have; safe, save; trover, troubadour, trope. See U, F, etc.
[...]
Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc. 
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/v