Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Mi enclitico in inglese

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ragionavo su forme enclitiche in italiano del tipo:
"spostami la macchina"
"prendimi quel bicchiere"
"selezionami dieci poesie";
in cui quel /mi enclitico sta per "in vece mia, a mio vantaggio, per me".
La domanda è se in inglese esistano forme equivalenti.
Grazie
P.

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"get me that glass" / "fetch me that glass"
Pero'... "Move my car for me"
"Choose me ten poems"? Hmm.  Non sono convinto. 
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 La domanda è se in inglese esistano forme equivalenti.
(C'e' un simbolo strano dopo "domanda". Boh).
cf "Red Dwarf": "Smoke me a kipper: I'll be back for breakfast." /
"Stoke me a clipper: I'll be back for Christmas."
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 "Choose me ten poems"? Hmm.  Non sono convinto.
E anche, in una canzone di S&G: "I smoked myself a J".
Perņ, in un'altra canzone: "don't bogart that joint, my friend, pass it over
to me".
Ciao
Ale e le culture alternative ;-)
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A rather common expression among the (otherwise?) ignorant Americans :) is
"Pick me a winner."
As for other uses, "Sing me a song", "Draw me a picture", ("Do me a
favor?"), "Make me a cup of coffee", etc.
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The foregoing is my opinion, and my opinion alone. It is intended to
demonstrate modern American English -- colloquial and spoken, (but well
spoken) for the most part; not literary American English. Ergo, caveat
lector. (No, not you, Hannibal)
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 "Choose me ten poems"? Hmm.  Non sono convinto. 
"Choose ten poems for me"?
Ciao, FB
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acquaintance immediately, and she was very thankful that she had never been
acquainted with him at all'. (Jane Austen)

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Lend me your ears. ("Friends, Romans, countrymen..").
Joe from Massachusetts

 Lend me your ears. ("Friends, Romans, countrymen..").
Cry me a river
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Play me a tune.
Sing me a song.
Boil me an egg.
Cook me a chicken.
Find me a wife.
Draw me a picture.
Save me a place (seat).
Bake me a cake.
Dig me a hole.
Cut me a slice.
Build me a house.
Leave me a tip.
Save me a piece.
Pick me an apple.
Roll me a joint.
Do me a favor.
Plant me a rosebush.
Joe from Massachusetts

Roll me a joint.
per "par condicio":
Cut me a line. :)
Sebastiano

 Cut me a line. :)
ci ho messo un po' per capirla, lol

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Make me another cup of coffee.
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Mary (caffeinomane)

Make me another cup of coffee.
Right. :)
So, we've covered coke, pot and coffee. We need something for alcohol.
I could use "to make"."Make me another *name of cocktail*", but we've
already used that for your coffee. That rules out "to make". We need
another verb.
Mmm, what about "fill me my glass"? It sounds strange.
Sebastiano

 Make me another cup of coffee.
Me, too, please.
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 Me, too, please.
Er...may I have a cup of tea instead, please?
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Pour me a cuppa.
Draw me a pint.
Joe from Massachusetts

 Mmm, what about "fill me my glass"? It sounds strange.
"Pour me another."
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 Er...may I have a cup of tea instead, please?
No way! Tea is mine!
Bye, FB
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that is "The Americans are naturally ignorant"
(Paolo Bonardi on it.cultura.linguistica)

 Er...may I have a cup of tea instead, please?
And hands off those doughnuts!
Bye, FB
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"Nasalization is just a part of life"
(Joey DoWop Dee on it.cultura.linguistica.inglese)

"Pour me another."
Damn, pour. Non mi veniva in mente. :)
Sebastiano

 No way! Tea is mine!
Oh, sorry...had I been here at five o' clock...no, ehm, next time I get
there at five o' clock, so the tea belongs to me ;)
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 P.
Qualche volta sì, ad esempio "I'm going to eat me a steak that
weighs two pounds (mi mangeró un bistec di due libbre)" o
"I think I'll have me a glass of wine" però per "me" di solito
si sustituisce "myself" .
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"Pour coo keen" (leggere all'inglese, prego).
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FB wrote:
 >
 > Infatti. Il piů delle volte la frase si trasforma cosě ("Domani mi 
taglio i
 > capelli" ==> "Tomorrow I'll have my hair cut").
Anche si puň sentire "Tomorrow I'll have myself a haircut" ma la
forma che hai scritto č piů comune.
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And hands off those doughnuts!
Doughnuts? Whoa, I've just learned another spelling variation. :)
I've always used "donuts" and I've just found out that it's the US
spelling.
Sebastiano

 "Pour coo keen" (leggere all'inglese, prego).
pour come me say real
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Just looked up "enclitic" and now I must say that NO we have no
equivalent in English.  The "me" or "myself" is never attached to
or made part of the verb or any other word.  It always stands
alone.
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"Hay, barkeep, fill me up!"
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 pour come me say real
Only a Milanese like Sebba can understand. (smiling face) 
Bye, FB
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Se dico "siedi!" manca l'oggetto.
Siedo chi? Lei o me?
(da it.cultura.linguistica.italiano)

 forma che hai scritto è più comune.
Today for lunch I'm gonna make me a nice steak.
(Or, even better:) Make me a nice steak for lunch today!
A common joke:
--Call me a taxi!
--Ok, you're a taxi.
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 alone.
I knew that; I didn't think Paolo was being quite that literal, but was
asking about similar use of a personal pronoun in a quasi-enclitic
position, serving the purpose other than direct object.
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Doughnuts (sometimes loving called "dognuts" :) can be spelled either way
here. Just as long as they're warm and fresh.
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Only a Milanese like Sebba can understand. (smiling face) 
oh meah BELL-lah mah-duh-NEE-nah
keh tah bree-LEH deh loonTAAN
Seh-bah-stee-AH-noh

here. Just as long as they're warm and fresh.
You see, it's the power of advertising! I've always *heard* the word,
and the only written example I got was "Dunkin' Donats". :)
What's wrong with you and the dogs?
You eat hot dogs and dog nuts! 
Sebastiano

 You eat hot dogs and dog nuts!
"Dunkin' Donuts" (I know, it's a typo.)
We have a thing for dogs, I guess.
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We have a thing for dogs, I guess.
They fall off the sky when it rains a lot. :)
Sebastiano

 keh tah bree-LEH deh loonTAAN
Non è brillet?
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Mary

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Yep, and then there are poodles in the street.
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'S al dév savè 'n verones coma quel lì (trascrizione metà etimologica e
metà fonetica: a caso, insomma).
Ciao, FB
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del tuo pianerottolo.
(Lucangel su it.cultura.libri)

 
What's worse though than raining cats and dogs is
hailing taxicabs.
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Non è brillet?
Sì, ma non so come si pronunci. ^_^
Pensavo che la t fosse muta. :)
Sebastiano

 Yep, and then there are poodles in the street.
LOL!
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Mary