Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Thanks

Grazie delle risposte
In effetti si tratta di americano parlato e questa ragazza usa spessissimo
abbreviare i verbi  ed omettere l'apostrofo
cheers
Sandra

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She's getting the ' you're ' wrong, plain and simple. A lot of people
do. 
Similarly, how important to italian is the acute over é to contrast e? 
For me, as a second language reader, it's an important difference -  I
need all the help I can get!
Cheers,
Loki
I haven't mentioned ci yet have I ....!!
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Loki <lo...@asgard.nz.invalido> wrote in message
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Should be è with a grave accent not é with an acute but most Italians just
stick any old accent on top.
As to whether it's important or not, I think the meaning would be clear from
context even if the written distinction didn't exist. For example, whereas
in Tuscan è (= is) has an open e sound and e (= and) has a closed e, here in
Sardinia both are pronounced with the open vowel, but there's never any
confusion as to the meaning. So really getting it right and putting the
accent on the verb and not on the conjunction is just a way of not showing
your ignorance, as in English with your/you're and its/it's and the finer
points of spelling in general.
Chris

I haven't mentioned ci yet have I ...!!
Oh. What's wrong with it? Speak up, don't be afraid :-)
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Isa
Work like you don't need money,
Love like you've never been hurt,
And dance like no one's watching
http://web.tiscalinet.it/alfabeto_auschwitz/

 Similarly, how important to italian is the acute over é to contrast e?
Luckily the "è" is in the right position while "perché" requires the
shift-key... that's the reasons we like 7-bits character set :)))
Take note, the only reason we have when we don't use stresses is we don't
know the rule and rely on the context ;) Who remembers about da, fa etc
e.g.?

 Oh. What's wrong with it? Speak up, don't be afraid :-)  
Only that it can be a place or people. I'm not that brilliant with word
order in italiano. What is glaringly obvious to anyone else is a crowded
forest of parole to me. I mostly mentally translate by fast intuition,
grammar is not my strong point -so if you've ever noticed major errors
in my comprehension - that'll be why.
For example: il titola "Storia di una gabbiianella e del gatto che le
insegnò a volare." (da Luis Sepúlveda) I first understood it to mean the
bird teaching the cat to fly, when upon reading (sort of) the story, it
is the cat teaching the bird to fly.
Perhaps I should study more...
Cheers,
Loki
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 open vowel, but there's never any confusion as to the meaning. 
Oh good, maybe I can pretend to be Sardinian, because I cannot hear that
difference in e's :-)))
Cheers,
Loki

  about  da, fa etc e.g.?
Not me. :-)
Cheers,
Loki
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 Not me. :-)
Useless rule! ;)
And you'd have to hear my "e" :)))) Luckily Italian has no misundertandings
depending on sounds

 is the cat teaching the bird to fly.
Yet this sentence has a structure that can be translated almost directly
into English...
I mean, it's
    Storia
        di una gabbianella
    e
        del gatto
            che le insegnò a volare
    Story
        of a gabbianella
        (BTW how would you translate this? young sHeagull ? : ))) )
    and
        of the cat
            that taught her how to fly
What tripped you?
(trad. "cosa ti ha intrippato?" : ))) )
cheers,
Peltio Von Freud
PS
BTW it's 'il titolO'

 have to glue paper over the keys to remember where they were.
How about a OHP pen?
You could write on the front side of the keys...
Please try it.
And then if it works let me know.
I'll do the same with mine : ).
  saluti,
Peltio

 BTW it's 'il titolO'
Who ever thought to give words gender, for cryin' out loud anyway! ;-)) 
Shall I blame the ancient Sumerians or Greeks, or some cave dwelling
Stone Age man? <sigh>
Comunque, questa newsgroup è un metodo pratico di leggere l'italiano.
Ciao,
Loki
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