Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: What to further improve my English

The facts:
All I watch is in English, all what I read is in English. I'm also
writing here and in some other places in English.
What next? If there is anything.
Any advice is welcome.
-- 
Yatta!,
The craziest game ever! XD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg2SdQLHX8Y

 
Keep watching, (and listening :-), reading and writing.
("... all (*that*) I read is in English....)
-- 
Joe/Joey da New York

 What next? If there is anything.
perhaps having conversations in english?!

> -)
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But you can't count. "don't give up" = three words. :-)
You've heard the expression "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again." 
but I prefer WC Fields's variation:
"If at first you don't succeed, try again. Then quit.
There's no use being a damn fool about it."
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 Keep watching, (and listening :-), reading and writing.
The watching/listening/reading thing is not an issue. I mean, it's
really useful for me. Now I've access to a plethora of material that
before I cannot even dream of.
The writing thing instead is painful and harder. But I don't think to
give up yet.
-- 
Yatta!,
It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of gum.

 perhaps having conversations in english?!
Good thinking, but it's hard to obtain.
-- 
Yatta!,
War has changed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui-pvKkduEY

 give up yet.
I don't think I'll give up
Direi che puoi fare un po' di esercizi sulla grammatica, che non fanno 
mai male.
;-)
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
-- 
There are two kinds of Italians, those who work for Berlusconi and those 
who are about to.

 mai male.
Are you sure that's useful? I'm not so sure about it.
-- 
Yatta!,
Kosh     : If you go to Z'ha'dum, you will die.
Sheridan : Then I die. But I will not go down easily, and I will not go
down alone.

 Mumble, that's not what I meant. Maybe "I don't think to give up for now."
Enrico, you had absolutely right. Sorry. I'm a lamer. Dammit!
-- 
Yatta!,
Tourists beware: if it's fun, Italy has a law against it.

 Enrico, you had absolutely right. Sorry. I'm a lamer. Dammit!
*were
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 Are you sure that's useful? I'm not so sure about it.
Pensi di sapere tutto quello che c'è da sapere sulla grammatica inglese?

 Pensi di sapere tutto quello che c'è da sapere sulla grammatica inglese?
I absolutely don't. But I'm not sure it's a problem that grammar
exercises could resolve. I don't want to stop thinking at the rules when
 I'm writing. It's not my goal. I may study a grammar book, but the best
exercise is to use the tongue, in my opinion synthetic tests aren't so
helpful.
-- 
Yatta!,
I am Heisenborg. You will probably be assimilated.

 Are you sure that's useful? I'm not so sure about it.
When writing on newsgroups, it doesn't matter if you need to think
about
things. When speaking, you can't afford to think "banana.. plural...
banane...
so I need to say 'che belle banane!'". Doing boring grammar exercises
until some things become automatic could be useful. Or just read/hear
the right versions of things so often that you know them.

 the right versions of things so often that you know them.
That's my hope, but it seems a very slow process.
-- 
Yatta!,
Scream if you wanna go faster
Geri Halliwell

 That's my hope, but it seems a very slow process.
And likely to leave gaps. This is the way I've learned the past
historic in Italian,
really, but of course it means I only really know the third person
forms. If
I had to speak in the past historic for a day, I'd really struggle,
especially
with the first and second person forms.
Of course, since I would never need to do this, I don't _really_
care.
It might be useful for you to learn stuff like irregular verbs and
plurals explicitly,
since there aren't so many of them, and some of them are so rare or
strange
that it might take you a while to come across them multiple times in
print or on the
radio _and_ realise that's what they were.

 What next?
*Become* English.
Namib 

 care.
It's not really an issue when you don't need it. I've piratically never
used the "passato remoto" in my life, and I live in Italy.
-- 
Yatta!,
If a prior visits your world... leave.

 *Become* English.
LOL. It's not a bad idea. It's kinda drastic, but not bad at all.
-- 
Yatta!,
All my world in a few pictures.
http://picasaweb.google.it/diotonante/

 Yah!
For the love of Cthulhu, please stop writing "Yah!" and "Mmmmmh!" all
the time.

 in my life, and I live in Italy.
*practically
-- 
Yatta!,
Godspeed you.

 used the "passato remoto" in my life, and I live in Italy.
I suspect you'd be better at it than I would be.

 I suspect you'd be better at it than I would be.
I'm not so sure. We, in the "Italia del nord", use - maybe too often -
the "passato prossimo".
Instead of "Parlai con lei dieci anni fa" we say "Ho parlato con lei
dieci anni fa". "Parlai" sounds even pretty odd to me this kind of sentence.
-- 
Yatta!,
Godspeed you.

 dieci anni fa". "Parlai" sounds even pretty odd to me this kind of sentence.
*in this
-- 
Yatta!,
Watch your six!

 dieci anni fa". "Parlai" sounds even pretty odd to me this kind of sentence.
This is why I have (I had, I hope) problems with the use of present
perfect or simple past.
Anyway, I really suggest you English Grammar in Use with Answers.
I have a lot of grammar "gaps" and this is, at least for me, a good
way (I do an unit every day) to study.

 way (I do an unit every day) to study.
What's the grammar that you are using?
-- 
Yatta!,
Ronon Dex: You kill him before I do, I kill you.
Sheppard : What if he kills you first?
Ronon Dex: Then you kill him.

> What's the grammar that you are using?
Intermediate.

 Intermediate.
Well, I meant which one but it doesn't matter. Thank you for you kindness.
-- 
Yatta!,
Godspeed you.

 Well, I meant which one but it doesn't matter. Thank you for you kindness.
Oh, I'm sorry I didn't  understand.
http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/267677/English-Grammar-In-Use-With-Answers-And-CD-ROM/Product.html?cur=258
It seems cheaper too ( I have the versione without cd)

 Any advice is welcome.
Essere meno superficiale e sciatto.
Ascoltare, scrivere, ecc. sono attività che vanno fatte in maniera attiva, 
non passiva.
E' vero che il cervello - esposto ad una serie di stimoli - recepisce 
comunque, ma nessuno sottolinea che se non c'è impegno e un pensiero 
organizzato, il risultato arriva ma è scadente.
Ho un collega (laureato e di alto livello di carriera) che ha un serio 
problema quando si esprime (e lo fa nella propria lingua).
Sto impazzendo a cercare di capire perché ogni tanto si perde e inizia a 
costruire frasi confuse, con parole improprie, mancanza di accordi 
maschile/femminile, singolare/plurale, ecc.
Credo che sia uma mancanza di organizzazione del pensiero. Costui legge, si 
informa, ha contatti, lavora, ma non si ferma un attimo a riorganizzare le 
informazioni che io immagino vorticare furiosamente nel suo cervello.
Sarà forse un consiglio astratto e poco operativo, però pensaci.
ciao, Janis 

 Sarà forse un consiglio astratto e poco operativo, però pensaci.
It's a good advice but I'm afraid that I'll be not able to follow it. :)
-- 
Yatta!,
Tourists beware: if it's fun, Italy has a law against it.

 Credo che sia uma mancanza di organizzazione del pensiero.
La tua amica si chiama Thurman o c'è anche un altro accordo in italiano di 
cui non ho ancora imparato? 

 I'm not Janis, I can assure you.
I'm sure she knows that, Akira.
Kiuhnm

 I'm sure she knows that, Akira.
"I'm not, Janis. I can assure you."
-- 
Yatta!,
Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem.
NASA

 cui non ho ancora imparato? 
Accordo?
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
-- 
There are two kinds of Italians, those who work for Berlusconi and those 
who are about to.

 It's a good advice but I'm afraid that I'll be not able to follow it. :)
Quando ti dico di esercitarti su grammatica e lessico, è perché certi 
aspetti di una lingua non si riesce proprio ad apprenderli semplicemente 
leggendo libri e ascoltando film. Qui ad esempio hai usato "advice" come 
se fosse countable, ma non lo è. Di questi errori ne fai spesso, eh.
;-)
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  Di questi errori ne fai spesso, eh.
Ti credo, ed infatti ho giustappunto appena ordinato due grammatiche,
intermedia e avanzata, su Amazon.
Spero solo di trovare tempo, e voglia, di mettermici.
(Il fatto che non abbia avuto voglia di scrivere questo messaggio in
inglese e' pero' un brutto segno, di solito in certe cose sono un
martello pneumatico. Ma magari e' solo che oggi e' stata una giornataccia.)
Ciao,
Davide