Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: 9-11

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:( I still remember that day. I will never forget it.
I've seen Ground Zero. May 2002. I won't forget that either.
Sebastiano

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You can see the "Twin Towers öf Light" tonight on the Empire State
Building Webcam at:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?U2E415549
Joe from Massachusetts

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Thanks for the reminder, Joe. I'll have to walk over to Fifth Avenue later 
to see it. It's a pretty sky, right now, though.
-- 
Pear pea a chair, Ray. Core Reggie eel me oh eat alien, oh... :)
Joey DoWop, working on a temporary account.


I see the Big Albino still has his hand covering the lens of the North
camera.
I bet you think I'm kidding.
Joe from Massachusetts

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<niente polemica>
Č stato terribile, poco (?) ma sicuro. Č pur vero, tuttavia, che si č fatta
e si sta facendo troppa retorica: in Iraq non ci saranno le Twin Towers,
perň... A me questo far pesare quattromila (non ricordo esattamente) "vite
americane" piů di tutti i morti iracheni (tra cui, immagino, zero
terroristi ma molti bambini) fa molto arrabbiare. Con questa storia delle
Twin Towers, Bush č giustificato per qualsiasi operazione militare nei
prossimi cinquant'anni?
</niente polemica>
Ciao, FB
-- 
Se dico "siedi!" manca l'oggetto.
Siedo chi? Lei o me?
(da it.cultura.linguistica.italiano)

 </niente polemica>
<niente polemica 2>
C'č da chiedersi se ora bombarderŕ l'Ossezia.
</niente polemica 2>
Ciao, FB
-- 
Mrs. Palmer, in her way, was equally angry. 'She was determined to drop his
acquaintance immediately, and she was very thankful that she had never been
acquainted with him at all'. (Jane Austen)

 </niente polemica 2>
Ammeno abbi l'accortezza di evitare di scrivere "niente polemica". :/
Sebastiano
-- 
Bridget : Maybe the bears wanna dance! 

 e si sta facendo troppa retorica:
Sempre non per fare polemica, non sono d'accordo con quello che hai scritto.
Giusto per ricordare che non tutti gli italiani la pensano come te, . Ma la
questione č  OT e per me finisce qui

 Ammeno abbi l'accortezza di evitare di scrivere "niente polemica". :/
Probabilmente avrei dovuto. Scusate.
Ciao, FB
-- 
"Gli americani sono ignoranti per loro stessa natura",
that is "The Americans are naturally ignorant"
(Paolo Bonardi's opinion on it.cultura.linguistica -
http://snipurl.com/7ryg
)

 </I'll add a wee bit of polemic>
<apro>
War is ugly.
This war is ugly.
This war is not really a war.
This war is a Massacre of Innocents.
One that followed Another,
Neither -- ever -- justified.
<chiudo>
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friends, I think it is better to stop here these
political/global/philosophical issues. The west is split and it is unuseful
and above all off topic to reproduce statistic distributions in
it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
I advise to come back to english.
Lapo

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The original post was polemical, so you shouldn't be surprised. You don't
get to express your political opinion without hearing from those who think
it is a distortion of the larger picture of what's going on in the world.

 not stop either war
Beh, Bush mi fa lo stesso effetto di quei tamarri che devono menare
qualcuno, qualcuno a caso, perché gli è stata rovesciata addosso una goccia
d'acqua, o magari se la sono versata da soli.
Mi sembra un argomento tanto importante che dell'off-topic non mi frega un
cavolo di niente. Plonkatemi, me ne farò una ragione.
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 The original post was polemical, so you shouldn't be surprised.
No doubt it was. I guess the only way not to appear polemical is either
saying nothing or saying what some people would want one to say.
Bye, FB
-- 
Io ho deciso di rifiutarmi di vederlo: Ettore con la faccia di Eric Banana
mi fa venire i conati.
(commento sul film "Troy" apparso su it.fan.scrittori.tolkien)

 <chiudo>
Most unfortunately, some wars are necessary; this is not. Terrorists are
laughing their heads off in some vaults.
I shall try not to reply to any message on this topic in the next few days.
I can offer no guarantee, though.
Bye, FB
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 d'acqua, o magari se la sono versata da soli.
Mi accorgo ora che quel "goccia" e quel "versata da soli" possono dare
adito a polemiche. Il mio esempio è stato *molto impreciso*, *spero* si
capisca.
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 saying nothing or saying what some people would want one to say.
One can mourn the tragedy, the loss of lives, the grief caused, and the
destruction. That painful part of the human condition is experienced, in one
form or another, by all the peoples of the world.

laughing their heads off in some vaults.
vaults??

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Caves? I'm ungrammatical when I'm flustered. I suppose it's an advantage:
every argument with an English native speaker could only end in a laughter.
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 destruction.
Of course, of course.
Bye, FB
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 vaults??
I think he means 'vault' in the sense of 'tomb' or 'grave'. In English the
word 'vault' more commonly connotates 'cassaforte'.

 I think he means 'vault' in the sense of 'tomb' or 'grave'.
Not really. It wouldn't make much sense, would it?
Bye, FB
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 laughter.
Intendevi dire 'grotte' o 'sotteranei'? Pensavo che intendessi dire 'tombi'.

 Not really. It wouldn't make much sense, would it?
There is an expression in English that 'he's laughing from his grave'. He
could also be 'turning in his grave' (which is a bad thing) or 'laughing all
the way to the bank' (which plays the oil card).

 Pensavo che intendessi dire 'tombi'.
"Tombe": /la tomba, le tombe/.
Ciao, FB
-- 
L'importante č che risplenda tu, sola primadonna e immarcescibile leggenda
del tuo pianerottolo.
(Lucangel su it.cultura.libri)

> "Tombe": /la tomba, le tombe/.
A Palermo, volevo vedere Le Catacombe dei Cappuccini ma non sapevo come si
arriva alla chiesa. Ho telefonato e ho chiesto 'come si trova la chiesa? Il
frate mi ha risposto <<Come si trova? Bene!>>

 cavolo di niente. Plonkatemi, me ne farò una ragione.
ma che plonkare dai... è una discussione e naturalmente si possono sentire
pareri contrastanti
che comunque non giustificano l'inserimento nel killfile.
mica stiamo con il paraocchi! :)

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Your sentence was not inappropriate, though. Perhaps "come la trovo?" or
"come posso arrivarci?" would have been safer.
Bye, FB
-- 
L'importante è che risplenda tu, sola primadonna e immarcescibile leggenda
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 will not stop either war
... will not stop war, either.
Se dici '...will not stop either war', vuole dire che ci sono due guerre.
Per esempio: Some Palastinians are fighting a war to repell the invasion and
occupation of their land by Israel. Some Arabs are fighting a war to force,
among other things, the removal of US troops from Saudi Arabia. A preemptive
invasion of Iraq will not stop either war.

 e si sta facendo troppa retorica
Hai ragione. Ero negli US l'11 settembre 2003, avrei potuto esserci anhe 
quest'anno ma ho fatto l'impossibile per non esserci, per evitare la 
marea davvero _unpalatable_ di retorica da due soldi, quindi cinica e 
insincera, e di nazionalismo che avevo sperimentato l'anno prima. Parlo 
dei "media" e delle istituzioni, s'intende.
sq

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I agree.
My rather cryptic response earlier was meant not to condemn all war at all
times; I'm not a pacifist. I believe that some wars are necessary. I do
hope that as we progress as a people -- one people on Earth -- the
necessity diminishes. I do maintain that although sometimes necessary, all
war is hell. I also maintain that both of the Massacres, 911 and the war in
Iraq, are unjustified.
I believe we are all one people.
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 unjustified.
I think every war begin far before it has apparently begun.
-- 
oggi no, domani sì

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 19:00:42 GMT, ADPUF wrote:
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One more reason to disapprove of what Bush is doing. Lots of people who
were farmers or shopkeepers are probably getting a little angry. I 
*do not* justify terrorists, but since there are, to deny the effects of
this war is idiotic.
Bye, FB
-- 
Nasalization is just a part of life.
(Joey DoWop Dee on it.cultura.linguistica.inglese)

 begun.
I think every war begins *long* before it has apparently 
begun.
(Any other errors?)
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 (Any other errors?)
None; neither grammatical nor philosophical.. :)
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