Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: traduzione

Ciao!
qualcuno sa dirmi come si traduce questa frase:
"volevo che fossi tu"
Io l'ho provata a tradurre con I wanted to be you, c'č qualche altro modo?
Grazie
Alessia

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Semmai, "I wanted it to be you" (I wanted to be you significa "volevo
essere te"). 
Nel tuo caso un filo piu' di contesto aiuterebbe a capire meglio cosa
sia "it" e anche a modificare la frase in una piu' corretta. 
Volevo che fossi tu il mio primo amore? 
Volevo che fossi tu a portare fuori la spazzatura?
Volevo che fossi tu, e invece era un altro?
(Tanto "loro" non sono mai quello che "noi" vogliamo :-))
Ciao,
-- 
Isa
Work like you don't need money,
Love like you've never been hurt,
And dance like no one's watching
http://web.tiscalinet.it/alfabeto_auschwitz/

 Io l'ho provata a tradurre con I wanted to be you, c'è qualche altro modo?
<I wanted to be you significa "Volevo essere te"
   La frase corretta è I wanted you to be..............
Yours
Sal

 
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"fossi" è seconda persona (qui il dubbio) o terza (qui la domanda)?
La seconda, o la prima. Non la terza.
Che io fossi, 
che tu fossi,
che egli fosse, 
che noi fossimo, 
che voi foste, 
che essi fossero.
BTW, Martin, sarebbe meglio che tu scrivessi le tue domande o i tuoi
commenti sotto il testo quotato, anziche' sopra. Rende la lettura piu'
facile.
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 >"fossi" č seconda persona (qui il dubbio) o terza (qui la domanda)?
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No, queste sono le traduzioni di "Vorrei che tu fossi te stesso".

 (Tanto "loro" non sono mai quello che "noi" vogliamo :-))
Sottoscrivo. "Loro" non sono mai quello che "noi" vogliamo, manco mezza
volta. :)
Antonio

 
Cara Alessia, puoi terminare la frase? Così possiamo aiutarti meglio!
Bye
Rossella 

 Isa
Could it be similar to: 
 I wished I were you...until I came to my senses / until I realised it
was me who had won the six milliardi and not you.
Perhaps you can tell me why fossi doesn't fit while essere does in this
sense.  For some reason my dictionary entirely misses out essere in it's
list of  conjugations <sigh>
cheers,
Loki

e se fosse *I wish it were you*???
Bisognerebbe conoscere il contesto in cui la frase si trova.
Bisognerebbe conoscere il registro del brano, e lo stile usato. I wish
it were you è molto più forbito, più arcaico. Se per esempio però la
frase dicesse "Lui mi ama e io penso di ricambiarlo... Vorrei che
fossi tu..." allora magari si potrebbe tradurre con "I wish you were
him" o "I wish he was you" o cose del genere.
IMHO
Sky


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   You know I'm usually partial to a soppy soap but rest assured this one
takes the cake for stupidity
and ludicrous acting.
Do you want me to send you video evidence of it ?
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Dear Sal,
Though exceedingly gracious of you to offer to send the undersigned video
evidence of the 'artistic' merits of the programme in question, I feel it
shan't be necessary, as (unfortunately) I am all too well acquainted with
the soap opera in question. Though it has been many years since I have had
to sit through any episode ('had to' as in it was part of my work in one of
my former lives - don't ask) I remember all too clearly the calibre of the
show. What particularly baffles me (and not only with regards to this
particular show but many soaps in general) is the atrocious, unflattering
and quite simply horrid, lighting.
But I am thankful to you for confirming that the show is still airing and
even more thankful to learn, that your severe addiction notwithstanding, we
do have standards to maintain and Days of our Lives simply doesn't cut the
mustard.
--
I remain, as always,
Bambi
dtb

 Ida
No, sorry, Ida, I'm afraid you can't say that in English.
"Vorrei che fossi tu" would be "I wish it were you" (correct) or "I wish
it was you" (idiomatic).
Apart from Isa's translation, "volevo che fossi tu" could also be
rendered as "I wish it had been you", or "I hoped it would be you".
Mary
-- 
"I wish I could remember the name of that card game", said Tom
wistfully.
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 CIAO!! penso che la traduzione corretta sia:i would you were
Not unless your other name is Shakespeare :-))
Mary
-- 
"I've read enough Shakespeare for one day", said Tom, willfully

list of conjugations <sigh>
You sure there's nothing under "auxiliary verbs"? BTW, that would be
"its list". I am not trying to be over pedantic, but the tricky issue
your's vs. yours, one's vs. ones, and of course it's vs. its has very
recently resurfaced and it would be very kind to us non-native
speakers if you British, Americans, Oceanians and what have you would
pay more attention... we're confused enough already :-))
Cheers, 
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recently resurfaced
Do we already have a "common native speaker's errors" in the FAQs?
its, it's
their, they're, there
does, do
and the like...
cheers,
Peltio
PS
BTW, how do the people of The Realm like an address such as
www.welcome.to/Icling
as the home page of The Realm (still a skeleton at present)?
It has a pop up ad banner, though. A price to pay for an easy to
remember web address. Can we live with that?
(Most unfortunately the address 
www.welcome.to/TheRealm
 was already
assigned...
Come to think of it, I could try with
www.welcome.to/TheIlluminatedRealm
 )

and the like...
Loose / lose... before I lose it :-))
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www.welcome.to/TheIlluminatedRealm
 )
Dear Peltio,
The idea of including  "a common native speaker's errors" in the FAQs is
noted and every effort will be made to include it in the current version. I
must confess, however, as a native speaker, I am not enamoured of the the
thought that I might also be regarded as common.
I am now assailed by a doubt. Does "common native speaker's errors" imply
the native spepaker is common, or that the errors are commonly made by
native speakers? I've been staring at the sentence for so long, I find
myself in a tizzy.
With regard to our URL my preference would be for the last
 
www.welcome.to/TheIlluminatedRealm
 )  if the choice is there. If it is not,
however, a banner is not a major obstacle and an address which can easily be
remembered preferable.
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native speakers? 
I would guess, both sometimes? :-)
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 pay more attention... we're confused enough already :-))
LOL And we're not as well! 
The rule is "The apostrophe is not used to mark the genitive case of
personal pronouns: theirs ours"  - these guys already indicate
possession. But 'one' doesn't. 
I don't remember learning grammar after primary school so I blame
the education system. But usage has also changed. " Its' "used to be
OK but language 'aint like it used to be.
Cheers, 
Loki

dtb
How about a section on "commonly asked questions when you take a non-
native English speaker to the pub to meet your friends". I couldn't come
up with a decent explanation for why my friends say "I been there" or
"he done that" or ask people to "borrow me a pen", apart from explaining
that they're a bunch of backward, inbred, thick drunks! Luckily enough,
this just confirmed my students' views of the English!
-- 
Danny Stewart