Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: native language or mother tongue?

Come traduzione della locuzione italiana "lingua madre" ho trovato sia
'native language' che 'mother tongue'. Sono entrambe corrette? E, se sě, c'č
differenza nel singnificato? Grazie. Romano.

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Bella domanda. Io le conosco entrambe e non penso ci siano differenze
tra la native language e la mother tongue. In effetti, riferito alla
lingua, ho sentito piů spesso usare "mother tongue". Il mio professore
di inglese, quando si riferisce ai madrelingua, li chiama "native
speakers".
dictionary.com
mother tongue: one's native language.
Credo si possa anche dire "native tongue" ma non ho mai sentito dire
"mother language". In ogni caso, come aggettivo van bene tutte, come
sostantivo direi solo "native speaker", almeno quando mi riferisco
alle persone madrilingue. Italian is my native language. Posso dire
Italian is my mother tongue? Ma diciamolo, mother tonguer! :)
Considera che "mother tongue" ha anche altri significati, come quello
di lingua da cui ne deriva un'altra.
Penso si possa dire quindi che "Latin is Italian's mother tongue". Non
ne sono sicuro.
Il mio picchi, alla definizione "madrelingua", riporta anche "home
language". Non la conoscevo. Ammetto che "home language" mi fa venir
in mente la lingua che parlo principalmente, non necessariamente la
mia prima. Mi spiego meglio con un esempio inventato. Io, madrelingua
italiano, sposo un'americana e vado a vivere negli USA. Italian is my
native language but I speak English most of the time and so English is
my home language, the one I speak normally in my life.
Dalla definizione del Picchi capisco che la sensazione che ho č
fuorviante, visto che "home language" č segnato come sinonimo di
mother tongue.
Quali frasi sono corrette?
A native speaker of English is someone whose mother tongue is English.
A native speaker of English is someone whose home tongue is English.
A native speaker of English is someone whose native language  is
English.
A native speaker of English is someone whose native tongue is English.
Il significato mi sembra lo stesso in tutte. I miei dubbi riguardano
la prima, visto che mi viene piů spontaneo usare mother tongue some
aggettivo (a native speaker of English is someone who's English mother
tongue) e la seconda (per il termine home language che mi suona
strano).
Sebastiano
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 Sono entrambe corrette?
*Secondo me* non c'e nessuna differenza.
ciao
arianna

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Is the mother language the language your mother spoke to you?
I know a man whose father is Dutch, his mother is Chinese, he was born 
in Singapore and at the age of four his family moved to the USA, where 
he went to school from kindergarten to college. He considers his mother 
tongue to be English.
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Io conosco "mother language".
Ciao
Fabio

tongue to be English.
I have a friend whose father is Italian, his mother is German and they
live in Italy. My friend has two mother tongues, she is a bilingual.
I have a friends whose father is Italian, his mother is Czech, he was
born in Czech Republic and at the age of five his family moved to
Sweden. Now, at the age of 21, he is in Italy. He speaks Italian,
Czech, Swedish and English. He is trilingual: Italian, Czech and
Swedish. His best one is Swedish, the worst Czech (he is not able to
write in Czech but he understand it).
It's possible to have more than one mother tongue. Bilinguism is quite
common when the parents' mother tongues are different or when the
parent's mother tongue are not the same of the official language or
the Country where they live.
Being bilingual means that one has learnt two languages since he was
born an that those languages are still in his/her mind and that he/she
is able to swich from a language to another with the same agility
he/she switches TV channels with the remote.
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 Is the mother language the language your mother spoke to you?
It's just an expression, not meant to be taken literally, and it's an
expression that I and many others use.
Jo

expression that I and many others use.
It is meant to be taken literally, in most cases the mother looks after
the child until it is five or six years old; all day, every day.  The
father's educational input is often quite limited during this period.
If as many of us believe learning involves the formation of neural
connections, then this phase of learning may well be crucial.
People who are truly bi- or trilingual have an advantage because they
have 2 or 3 ways of looking at the world. The important thing is the
quality of the input, humans are just like computers in this way - GIGO
Cheers
-- 
John G Davies