Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: intrusive /r/

Most speakers of British English pronounce "draw on" with an /r/ sound 
between the two words: /dròron/.
But what about American English people? Do they connect the two words 
with some extra sound as well?
Kiuhnm

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Where I come from (Boston, MA) this is very common. It's odd because final 
"r" is often omitted, so, for example, the word "drawer," which properly has 
the final "r" sound, is pronounced "draw," in Boston, with an elongated "-aw" 
sound.
(The classic Boston sound is cah, bah, staht, pahk, yahd, Hahvad. Car, bar, 
start, park, yard, Harvard. Staht the cah and pahk it in the yahd, although 
there might be a slight 'r' sound for 'cahr' because of the a-vowel following 
it.)
If that same person said "It's wrong to draw on the walls" it would sound as 
you described, with the inserted 'r' sound between draw and on.
Sometimes even without a following vowel, an 'r' i affixed where there should 
be none under any circumstances, in a kind of overcompensation. The name 
"Rita" comes to mind, which is often pronounced "Rit'r."
This might be Brit, too: didn't the Beatles rhyme "Rita" with "meter" in the 
song "Lovely Rita, Meter Maid"? Or did they sound it as "Rita, Mita Maid"? My 
memory fails..
-- 
Joey from New York
Remember: It is To Laugh
Among those whom I like or admire, I can find no common denominator, but 
among those whom I love, I can: all of them make me laugh.
    -- WH Auden

 memory fails..
Pensa che io capivo "Lovely Rita, meet her maid" :-)

 you described, with the inserted 'r' sound between draw and on.
According to wikipedia this phenomenon is present in almost any 
non-rhotic accent:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linking_and_intrusive_R#Intrusive_R
Non-rhotic accents feature the so called "linking r" and, by 
overgeneralization, an "intrusive r" is inserted whenever it facilitates 
the pronounciation (also in "draw/r/ing"!)
Rhotic dialects usually clarify the boundaries between the two words by 
means of a glottal stop.
I didn't know there were non-rhotic accents in America as well.
How do New Yorkers pronounce "draw on"?
Kiuhnm

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That's cute, and acceptable. Don't feel bad: I have a friend who mis-heard 
the lyrics to this song:
"Who's Got the Pain?"
Who's got the pain when they do the mambo?
Who's got the pain when they go "Ugh"?
Who's got the pain when they do the mambo?
I dunno who - do you?
He understood the first second and third lines to be:
Who's got the penguin? They do the mambo...
Who's got the penguin? They go "Ugh"!
Who's got the penguin? They do the mambo...
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 How do New Yorkers pronounce "draw on"?
I will have to admit that I still couldn't /wrap my head around*/ the concept 
of what constitutes a rhotic (and therefore, a non-rhotic) accent. The 
definition you just gave clarifies it.
I'm aware that there are probably other regions in the US where final R is 
omitted (perhaps except before a following vowel) and that the intrusive R is 
fairly common. As for New Yorkers, I'm not sure how they would pronounce 
"draw on" but I'll do a little survey over the next few days. Problem is, 
most "New Yorkers" in the part of the city where I live come from other parts 
of the country!
/*understand, conceptualize, grasp, figure out, grok/
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 /*understand, conceptualize, grasp, figure out, grok/
I've read the novel grok has been taken from!
Here I'm not sure. Should I say
I read the novel grok is taken from
I read the novel grok was taken from
I've read ...
I've read ...
?
Kiuhnm

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I the normal conversational sense, I would say
I read the novel that 'grok' came from.
or
I read the nove that 'grok' was taken from.
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I the normal conversational sense, I would say
I read the novel that 'grok' came from.
or
I read the nove that 'grok' was taken from.
-- 
Joey from New York
Remember: It is To Laugh
Among those whom I like or admire, I can findï¿œno common denominator, but 
among thoseï¿œwhom I love, I can: all of them make me laugh.
ï¿œï¿œ ï¿œ-- WH Auden

 I read the nove that 'grok' was taken from.
Thanks Joe.
Kiuhnm

 mis-heard the lyrics to this song:
I mis-heard "I can't hide" in "I Want to Hold Your Hand" the same way Bob 
Dylan did.
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