Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: la "s"

Leggo che la forma contratta: he's, she's, it'e, ecc, può essere applicata
anche in altri casi: John's red, What's your job?, ecc
Non riesco a capire la regola: in quali casi si può adoperare? Perchè non
credo si possa scrivere:
"how old's he?" in luogo di "how old is he?"
GraZIE

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No rule - just avoid if it sounds awkward . 'How old's he?' is OK if the 
stress is on 'he' , not 'old' , e.g.
'I know she's 28 , but how old's he ?'
It's quite normal before 'he' in general :
'What's he doing that for ?'
'When's he going to come to his senses ?' etc.
Same applies when ''s' is a contraction of 'has' .
Mike 

"how old's he?" in luogo di "how old is he?"
Le contrazioni non si scrivono in contesti formali. Secondo me,
parlando, "How old's he?" e "How long's he been waiting?" vanno
benissimo.
-- 
Adam Atkinson (
gh...@mistral.co.uk
)
Domanda: Come si scrivono le equazioni al computer?
Risposta: Con TeX o LaTeX.

 Same applies when ''s' is a contraction of 'has' .
Non ho ben capito! O meglio, ho capito che
How old's she
(ed a questo punto credo che ciň non riguardi solo la "s", ma anche "re" e
"m": "How old're they")
va bene, informalmente, a patto che non sia goffo il modo in cui suona la
frase.
Tuttavia non comprendo cosa c'entri l'accento. Come puň un accento riferirsi
ad una intera parola di una frase? Non č un concetto che riguarda le
sillabe?
Grazie

 sillabe?
'I know she's 28 , but how old's he ?'
"So che lei ha ventotto anni, ma quanti hanni ha luuui?"
Ciao, FB
-- 
"Is this Miss Prism a female of repellent aspect, remotely connected with
education?" "She is the most cultivated of ladies, and the very picture of
respectability" "It is obviously the same person".
("The Importance of Being Earnest", Oscar Wilde)

 sillabe?
Nient'affatto, esiste anche "l'accento prosodico", cioč una parola nella
frase che viene enfatizzata pronunciandola piů forte.
Anche in italiano una semplice frase come "Io sono arrivato primo" cambia
notevolmente di significato secondo quale termine prende l'accento
prosodico:
- "io SONO arrivato primo" (contrariamente a quanto sostieni tu)
- "IO sono arrivato primo" (e non Giovanni, come sostieni tu)
- "io sono arrivato PRIMO" (e non secondo, come sostieni tu)
- "io sono ARRIVATO primo" (non solo *partito* primo, come sostieni tu)
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 "So che lei ha ventotto anni, ma quanti hanni ha luuui?"
Forse intendevi scrivere "Quanti hanni à".
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 Same applies when ''s' is a contraction of 'has' .
I remember reading "How'd it go?", that is "How did it go?". I wonder if
"how'd" can always stand for "how did" ("how'd you manage to go
unnoticed?"), of even "how do".
Bye, FB
-- 
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mi fa venire i conati.
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 Forse intendevi scrivere "Quanti hanni à".
Che ho scritto! "Hanni" non è neanche una forma verbale. Per gli stranieri:
"So che lei ha ventotto anni, ma quanti anni ha lui?".
Ciao, FB
-- 
"It sounds appalling!"
"Interesting and appalling. The others just sound appalling!"
(Cold Comfort Farm, the film)

 "we're", "they're" e "I'm".
I might add that contractions are commoner in BritEng:
"I've two cars" ==> AmEng only "I have two cars"
"There're" ==> less common than "there are" in BritEng, and, I think, not
to be heard in the US. 
[...]
Ciao, FB
-- 
Locked from the inside. That can only mean one thing, and I don't know what
it is.
(Murder by Death)


On the contrary, it is fairly common in the US.
http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/RNC/os/documents/04106174.asp
Joe from Massachusetts

 
http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/RNC/os/documents/04106174.asp
You're right. "Are we supposed to forget Osama?" is a masterpiece.
Bye, FB
-- 
Mrs. Palmer, in her way, was equally angry. 'She was determined to drop his
acquaintance immediately, and she was very thankful that she had never been
acquainted with him at all'. (Jane Austen)

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Sorry , don't see the problem , especially since in this case both words 
('he' and'old') are monosyllabic anyway .However , let me try to explain 
all the same :
If I were asking a string of questions seeking information about someone , 
like 'What's his name ? Is he rich ? How old is he ?'  , the three words 
stressed would be 'name' , 'rich' , and 'old' (and I wouldn't say 'How old's 
he ?').
If , expressing doubt about my friend's assertion that someone was rich , I 
asked , 'But is he rich?' , or , expressing incredulity about what I'm told 
about someone's age , I say 'How old is he ?' , the stress is on 'is' and 
'How' . In the example I gave , contrasting 'she' and 'he' , the stress 
falls on those two words . If someone told me a woman was 28 , believing I 
thought she was 42 , I might reply , 'I know she's 28' , with the stress on 
'know' .
Giving particular emphasis to  particular word in a sentence is just one 
natural and everyday way of controlling meaning .
Mike