Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Verso canzone

ciao
non capisco questo verso
(non ne capisco il significato)
Premessa:
una persona torna immaginariamente
nel Rinascimento e ne tesse le lodi
"There's too many stars for one sky to hold,
Some will fall, others are sold,
As the fields turn to gold
Down at the Renaissance Faire..."
Forse leggendo tutta la canzone qualcuno si riesce a capirlo meglio,
qui tutta la canzone
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Renaissance-Faire-lyrics-Blackmore's-Night/7276F539E9B62D0148256D5A000CA9F5

):
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This is a good example of why it's not a good idea to try to learn a language 
from songs (not that you are; another reader was asking about it.)
This is essentially a verse that was written to sound good; to rhyme, but 
with a hint of "deep meaning" evoking any number of feelings, depending on 
the listener.
My interpretation:
"There sure are a lot of stars in the sky (the Universe is infinite and 
mysterious)
They don't all last (everything dies -- or otherwise vanishes)
Summer turns to autumn (time passes; things turn "gold" but grow old)
Down at the Renaissance Faire (pretty straightforward; an effort to give the 
verse an old-time -- or Olde Tyme -- feeling.)"
You can google "renaissance faire" to get an idea what those are, if you're 
not familiar. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance_fair
Grammatically, there is a mistake in line one, pointing out that songs are 
fraught with errors and inconsistencies that are only allowed, due to poetic 
license.
In the '60s when "The Girl From Ipanema" was popular, I used to cringe at the 
line "...she looks straight ahead, not at he..." (should be "him", obviously) 
I would still cringe if it were sung today, but it isn't, so I'm merely 
reminded of the discomfort from time to time, such as now. But thanks for 
asking! :-).
-- 
Joe/Joey da New York
English as she is spoken (and sometimes written) in the US

"Joe/Joey da New York" <joe...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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It's "me", not "he".
Oh, but I watch her so sadly, How can I tell her I love her? Yes, I would
give my heart gladly
But each day when she walks to the sea, She looks straight ahead not at me
I smile, but she doesn't see, She just doesn't see, No she doesn't see
Joe from Massachusetts

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per� questo senso di "decadenza" (stelle che cadono,
stelle vendute?, autunno che arriva...)che emerge da questi versi
*contrasta* con il resto della canzone, in cui fondamentalmente 
si elogia il Rinascimento e si invita ad accorrervi
tenedo conto che chi canta la canzone � un gruppo (gli strordinari
Blackmore's Night) che sta facendo del folk, del Rinascimento, della
tradizione il genere predominante della sua musica
e questa canzone � il loro brano guida, manifesto 

 I smile, but she doesn't see, She just doesn't see, No she doesn't see
That was the version sung by any number of male singers mostly Brazilian, but 
Frank Sinatra also had a version out.
Unfortunately, one of the most popular versions was sung by Astrud Gilberto, 
who, being female, could not say "she looks... not at me," so she used the 
exact line I quoted, as she was singing on behalf of an unrequited male 
adorer in the third person.
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 e questa canzone ï¿œ il loro brano guida, manifesto 
Given the one stanza and not knowing the rest of the lyrics, I offered my 
interpretation.
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interpretation.
thank, 
but in the initial post I gave the link where to find the whole lyrics
if you have time, here it again:
"Renaissance Faire" by 'Blackmore's Night'
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Renaissance-Faire-lyrics-Blackmore's-Night/7276F539E9B62D0148256D5A000CA9F5
and here the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hki_FEBUwTg

 
Oh. <embarrassed!> I missed the links before. I was focusing on the lyrics 
themselves. Sorry. :(
But I've read, watched and listened now, and I can't offer anything other 
than what I did already. In fact, that one verse seems so abstract as to be 
written just to fill the space. I don't see any connection with the 
Renaissance Faire, other than the implication of time passing -- forward to 
today? - or backward, 300 years ago?
Renaissance - rebirth - reincarnation.
Lovely song, though.
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 adorer in the third person.
Cacchio, � vero!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8VPmtyLqSY
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
-- 
La parola tradisce l'ossessione (Baudelaire)

 Enrico il Pentolaio.
Tra l'altro � la mia versione preferita quella cantata da Astrud. Ma tutto 
il disco Getz/Gilberto � un piccolo gioiello anche per chi, come me, non � 
un cultore del jazz. 

 
100% agreement here. A true gem.
-- 
Joe/Joey da New York
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 un cultore del jazz. 
Mi � arrivato oggi da amazon (*). L'avevo preso in realt� perch� me 
l'aveva consigliato la prof di piano jazz che ho qua.
(*) Che figata ordinare da amazon e ricevere i pacchetti dopo due giorni 
con UPS! B-)
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