Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Info

Una domanda, per indicare che un dato programma risiede su un
determinato computer (server) quel'è l'espressione corretta?:
my program is at server 123.123.123.123, oppure
my program is on the server 123.123.123.123
Grazie.
Net.

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I'd go for the first one.  
my program is at server 123.123.123.123 
or, my program is at this DNS address: 123.123.123.123
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 my program is at server 123.123.123.123
Another one wrong; I always used the collection: in, on and onto... :(

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Thanks a lot


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 Another one wrong; I always used the collection: in, on and onto... :(
In my experience, the location of a program is typically identified as being
"on" a server.
Ciao,
Ron
USA

 "on" a server.
Let me clarify something. When referring to an address one usually says "at" the
address. This question is problematic because "server 123.123.123.123" seems to
treat the address as the name of the server. If the word "server" were omitted
are replaced by "address," then "at" would be more appropriate. If the address
123.123.123.123 were only used as a name to identify the server then one would
say that the program is "on" that server.
Ciao,
Ron
USA

 > Another one wrong; I always used the collection: in, on and onto... :(
Wrong??? wrong!!?? Moi? No waaay maaate, I'm not wrong - people just
have the affrontery to disagree with me. :-))) 
But I know better <heheh>  :-P
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I'd never be able for no reasons... believe me! ;)
==> I <== was wrong!!!!!!
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safe!

 identified as being "on" a server.
Interesting. I'd use 'on a server' too, but  'at a server address'. 
"On the Clear Net server at 203.97.33.1"
I looked for examples and didn't find an exact example in the time I
set myself. But here are some uses that may help others choose..
"  For example, anyone who has initiated a a network game of Quake
sets up a Quake server on their machine." (NZ NetGuide)
"Once you step through your ISP's gateway onto the Web, you are being
served content from myriad servers around the country and the world.
Many of these are housed at other ISPs, ..."  (ibid)
Notice they didn't say 'on other ISPs'. 
But we all know that good English  and computers are 'acqaintances'
at best and anything goes.
Cheers,
Loki

 just have the affrontery to disagree with me. :-))) 
Make that 'effrontery' , I'm feeling in a good mood. :-)

 Make that 'effrontery' , I'm feeling in a good mood. :-)
Cannot! :( I certainly agree with lady gods ;)

 safe!
So you are... There I go, jumping to conclusions again, probably
thinking you were someone else...
cheers
Loki
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You do like the last word, but so do I.   zymugy   :-P 
Loki

 You do like the last word, but so do I.   zymugy   :-P
From when I used to read your posts I remember that you would take the
information that someone else posted and rewrite it to be incomplete and miss
the point. Is that what you mean by the last word?
Ciao,
Ron

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No, just not continuing to argue with you, even when I think (or
know) you're wrong, or even if we just plain disagree. (We are
allowed to, you know) There's been a few times. At some point the
rewards do not compensate for the effort required and only serve to
alienate/confuse others. Scusate.
Snipping is my way of isolating the point I'm replying to and for
streamlining my posts. And yes, I make mistakes, doesn't everyone?
You and I speak a different English. I have an easier time
understanding second language speakers who don't add subjective
meaning beyond the ability of a sentence to carry it.
As for humour...the gulf of mutual incomprehension is wide.
A bit sad really
Loki

 streamlining my posts.
That wasn't my point, but no matter. I have no desire to "dis" you and in fact
regret that I spoke my mind too forcefully rather than ignoring a string of
minor irritations as is my usual policy for newsgroups. There's room in this
world for a wide range of types, perspectives, and abilities. As is probably
clear to frequent readers I have little tolerance for people who demonstrate
strong disrespect for no reason or maintain a different set of rules for
themselves than for others. However, I do not put you in that category and I
strive not to enter that category myself.
Best regards,
Ron
USA

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Thank you Ron for clarifying those points. I appreciate your
comments.
And may I say, I have found myself in wholehearted agreement with
your views, recently expressed, regarding certain uncouth postings
sullying this newsgroup. I do a little mental "hear, hear" when I
read them. :-)
All the best,
Loki