Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: "Delimitato dai cartelli stradali"

I classici grandi cartelli stradali bianchi 
con il nome di un comune
delimitano il territorio di un comune
(quello di fine territorio ha una barra diagonale sopra il nome del comune)
Devo indicare tale territorio,
"... indicated by the municipal road signs..."
puň andare bene?
Grazie

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non credevo che fosse cosě difficile !

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Actually , it is trickier than you'd think !
I think the lack of response stems from uncertainty about the correspondence 
between comune and the various local authorities in the UK (and I dare say 
the US) , and the varying responsibilty for road signs in the UK (and even 
different countries within the UK) , etc.
Here (England) the word 'municipality' isn't that common ; local authorities 
(County Council , Borough Council) have responsibility for some road signs , 
but on major roads the Highways Agency takes over . So I'm not sure whether 
we have a specific way of describing the road signs you describe ; I'd 
probably just say 'indicated by the road signs' (or if pushed 'indicated by 
the local authority road signs') . However , your version would obviously be 
perfectly well understood. In a given context , I might say 'indicated by 
the roadside name signs' .
Mike 

if i use 'marked' instead of 'indicated', would it be better?
also
if i add 'city' to your sentence, like this:
indicated by the roadside city name signs
could it be better?
also
as subject, is it better to adopt 'area' or 'territory' (or other)?
So to have at last this:
territory marked by the roadside city name signs
(ummhh... does this sentence make any sense?)

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It certainly makes sense , though I don't think it's exactly what you want 
(a bit more context would help) . If , as your original post suggested , 
you're talking about the area within (the) city boundaries , as defined by 
the road signs , then 'area' is likely to be better than 'territory' . The 
addition of 'city' might be better if you specifically mean 'city' (in the 
UK 'city' and 'town' are clearly distinct) and if it isn't already implied ; 
but really it's impossible to say precisely what the best wording might be 
without more extensive context .'Indicated' might be better than 'marked' ; 
but perhaps a fuller expression would be better still ...
Mike 

 può andare bene?
"Bounded by city limits signs", come suona?
saluti,
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 the roadside name signs' .
Fra l'altro, non mi risulta che nemmeno in Italia quei cartelli
delimitino il territorio del comune, ma piuttosto l'area urbana delle
città. Poi, la maggior parte dei comuni italiani ha lo stesso nome
della città capoluogo del comune, che spesso è anche l'unica città che
sorge nel territorio del comune. Ma non sempre è così: quando entri a
Mestre, Ostia o Baggio, sul cartello ci troverai scritto "Mestre",
"Ostia" o "Baggio", non certo "Venezia", "Roma" o "Milano" (città che
iniziano parecchi chilometri più avanti).
Comunque, se si deve far riferimento ai comuni italiani come unità
amministrativa, userei il termine italiano "comune", come fanno anche
su Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comune
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Cingar

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After having read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comune
I can say:
comune = main city (or town)  +  (frazioni and località) 
I have to indicate the: 
main city (or town) area
It is an explanation for tourists
(inside this area the will have cheaper prices...)
I have to use the "road signs" factor
because in other explanations
I already used it


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comune
sì, vedi il mio nuovo post con più dettagli

può andare bene?
Allora,
alla luce dei dubbi emersi fornisco più dettagli:
assumendo che "comune" comprenda
la città principale e le frazioni/località
cioè
comune = città + (frazioni + località)
devo distinguere tra 
l'area della città
(in contrapposizione implicita all'area delle frazioni + località(
nota:
sono informazioni turistiche, 
costituite da frasi brevi, possibilmente molto brevi;
(nella area della città ci saranno dei prezzi più favorevoli...) 

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In Massachusetts, when you cross the border between municipalities, you are
greeted by "town line signs".
Another quaint custom here is that a road between two towns often changes
names at the town line. For example, one road between Charlton MA and
Sturbridge MA is called Charlton Road in Sturbridge, and Sturbridge Road in
Charlton, and this is reflected in the road signs.
Joe from Massachusetts

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Then I suppose something like 'Within the city limits (as marked by the 
roadside name signs) prices are cheaper...' or whatever .
Mike 

 Udine comune, it has the same name in both comuni.
La via Ravegnana parte da Forlě e arriva a Ravenna, ma si chiama cosě 
per tutta la sua lunghezza. La Cervese, che collega Forlě con Cervia, 
cambia nome piů volte dopo che si passa un paesino insignificante 
chiamato "Casemurate", anche se per tutti continua ad essere la Cervese.
:-)
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
-- 
"Tonight's the night. And it's going to happen again, and again. Has to 
happen. Nice night."


Our tendency in Massachusetts to change road names at town lines (and also
in the middle of town) can be confusing. State Route 20, which crosses the
entire state, also has local street names in most communities. Travelling
West from Charlton to Sturbridge to Brimfield to Palmer on this road, the
street signs will show at least two different names in each town. Leaving
downtown Charlton, you drive west on Main Street which becomes Sturbridge
Road, until you get to the town line, where the name becomes Charlton Road.
When you get to the center of Sturbridge, the name changes briefly to Main
Street. As you leave the center of town, the name changes to Brimfield Road.
When you get to the Brimfield town line, the name changes to Sturbridge
Road. When you get to the center of Brimfield,. the name changes again to
North Main Street. Drive a little farther West and the name becomes Palmer
Road. When you get to the Palmer town line, the name changes again to
Brimfield Road. It makes little sense, but that's the way it is. I usually
refer to the road as "Route 20", but businesses list their addresses
according to the local street names. You can have three businesses within
sight of each other, on the same road, having three different street names
in their addresses.
Joe from Massachusetts


If you enter "31 Main St, Brimfield, Ma" into Google maps, you will see
Route 20 with three additional names: Palmer Road to the West, Main St. in
the center, and Sturbridge Road to the East, all within a distance of less
than 500 meters.
Joe from Massachusetts


Uelà, non è che sei un romagnolo?
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"Sylar Surfer" <nie...@da.far> wrote in message
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Isn't it obvious? If you turn up the volume, you can hear him humming
"Eulalia Torricelli" to himself as he works merrily away on his potter's
wheel.    ;>)
Joe from Massachusetts

 Uelà, non è che sei un romagnolo?
Chissà, in un messaggio su due cito Forlì o qualcosa di romagnolo.
:-D
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 wheel.    ;>)
ROTFL!
:-DDDD
Noto tristemente che al link che ti avevo dato mesi fa non c'è più il 
file audio di quella canzone, nè di romagna mia. Sulla homepage viene 
spiegato che hanno avuto un sovraccarico di richieste al server.
:-(
Il testo c'è ancora:
http://italiasempre.com/verita/eulaliatorricelli1.htm
;-)
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Bene, anch'io sono romagnolo, di Ravenna.
Un caloroso saluto :D
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Sylar Surfer