Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: "Than for"

Do you reckon this sentence is incorrect? 
"The hunting season for firearms is more restricted than for archery
because hunting with firearms is more dangerous and less challenging."
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Enrico C  /testing Pimmy/
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 because hunting with firearms is more dangerous and less challenging."
It sounds a bit odd to me.
"The hunting season *for* firearms" doesn't make a lot of sense - maybe
"with firearms"?
I would have said something like "The hunting season with firearms is
shorter than the archery season".
Does an archery season exist, though?
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Mary

Does an archery season exist, though?
How about a pea-shooter season? ;-)
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How about a pea-shooter season? ;-)
How about a paper-ball-throwing season? :-)
'bye

 How about a paper-ball-throwing season? :-)
well, we can start throwing paper balls at bears :)
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Yeah, whatever...

 because hunting with firearms is more dangerous and less challenging."
I believe it's grammatically correct although there is a lack of symmetry in
the choice of words.
The hunting season for (using) firearms is more restricted than for (using)
bows and arrows...
The hunting season for shooting firearms is more restricted than for
archery...
Of course 'than hunting with bow and arrow' is also implied at the end of 
the sentence.

the sentence.
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 challenging."
The whole sentence is extremely badly written.
In BrE, you would say "The hunting season for firearms is more
restricted *than* the archery season..."
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Mary

Mary
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>the sentence.
I would say that even their corrected version implies 'than hunting with bow
and arrow'. Every speaker walks a fine balance between clarity and
conciseness.

conciseness.
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 answer D contains a verb, so these answers are incorrect."
I certainly would have answered B. I hope you realize that it doesn't
conflict with my comments. It's ironic that they supply this problematic
example sentence which leads them to include a second comparitive
expression -- more dangerous and challenging (than) -- completed by
implication.

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Yes, I think I get it  :)
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rabbit ears behind his head.
LOL :-)
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Tony the ice man and others have pointed out all the faults of this sentence 
; I would just add that , tho' one might prefer B of the alternatives given 
, to say , as the quiz does of the alternatives , 'so these answers are 
incorrect' is nonsense (tho' A and D are clearly wrong simply because 
they're gibberish) . It says 'a comparative can be followed by an inverted 
subject and verb' - but doesn't have to be ; it can be , and frequently is , 
followed by a prepositional phrase (C) , where the rest of the clause is 
understood  -here it means 'The hunting season for firearms is more 
restricted than (is the hunting season) for archery' , where the words in 
brackets are understood : this is a perfectly standard practice in English . 
In my view , it is not only as grammatically 'correct' as B (allowing for 
the faults of expression others have noted in both) , but probably comes 
closer to expressing the intended meaning .
Mike 

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You make my day, Mike! 
That's just what I thought in the first place and my first answer was
indeed C 
:-)
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 How about a pea-shooter season? ;-)
And if you're in a "Free Nuclear Zone", anything goes  :)
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I can't agree. There is a mismatch in the sentence, which compares
"firearms" (a type of weapon) and "archery" (a sport).
Archery has no place in this sentence.
In the US, archery is a sport involving target shooting with bows and
arrows, but bow hunting is what we call using a bow in place of a
firearm for hunting. I think this difference also applies in the UK.
Bow hunting (very common), or archery hunting (a much less common
phrase), is what we call hunting with a bow in the US. Every State has
a special bow hunting season for deer.
I think that before choosing any of the suggested answers, you must
replace "archery" with "bows", in order to have a basis for comparison
with "firearms".
Joe from Massachusetts

 with "firearms".
Yes. This is what I was pointing out in my first post to this thread 
although I used 'bows and arrows'. 

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Well, if you're going to say "bows and arrows", then you should also
say "firearms and bullets".
Joe from Massachusetts

 say "firearms and bullets".
Okay, now you're just being silly. If we're going to be pignolosi that would
have to be guns and bullets. Joking aside, I don't agree with you on the use
of 'bow hunting' unless you have an audience of avid hunters. I considered
using the term but decided that most people would have to think twice or
thrice without the 'arrows' reference. Personally, I prefer snipe hunting to
bow hunting -- the bow being such elegant, graceful creatures, I haven't the
heart to firearm them down.