Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Correzione traduzione [Was: Breve traduzione]

Salve,
ho seguito il consiglio di Mary Cassidy nel mio post precedente, e quindi ho
scritto qualcosa alla portata del mio inglese (si tratta di scrivere una
breve motivazione sul perche` voglio studiare all'estero):
"I want to study abroad to have an international experiece which/that, in my
opinion, at the present moment, is very important.
To choose my favourite university, I evaluated the different ones by looking
at their web-site(s ?). I chose the university of Ulm because from its
web-site I elicited it has a good internal organization and educational
offer."
Dove non va? 
Saluti,
Andrea

offer."
I chose Ulm University because I gathered from its website that it has
a good internal organization and a great educational offer.
My two rusty useless coins taken out of circulation
Sebastiano

 My two rusty useless coins taken out of circulation
Sebapop ordinarie ritirate per eccesso di ribasso? (faccina sorridente)
Vabbè, ti rifarai domani.
Ciao, FB
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 frase. Confido che Ketzl sia d'accordo con me. (faccina sorridente) 
Ketzl has read the entire sentence, and thinks that, rather than changing 
"which" to "that", it rightly needs a comma before the self-standing 
"which."
I want to study abroad to have an international experience, which is,
in my opinion, very important nowadays.
In this case, the speaker means that in his opinion "studying abroad to 
have an international experience is very important nowadays."
If the sentence is changed to:
I want to study abroad to have an international experience that is,
in my opinion, very important nowadays.
the speaker wants to "have an international experience that is very 
important nowadays" (in his opinion; and the "nowadays" doesn't really 
fit into that concept.)
The difference is subtle, I agree, but once you get the concept, it's 
very, very different.
I hope it makes sense.
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Sebapop ordinarie ritirate per eccesso di ribasso? (faccina sorridente)
^_^
Sebastiano

 fit into that concept.)
Actually, that's what I think it means. Andrea, in my opinion, doesn't mean
"to study abroad to have an international experience, because to have any
international experience whatsoever is very important" but "to study abroad
to have an international experience (i.e. studying abroad) that is, in my
opinion, very important nowadays" (i.e. to study abroad is a very important
international experience).
Of course, "which" is fine in this case as well...
Andrea, surely you agree with me, don't you?! (witty face)
Bye, FB
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, FB wrote...
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Let me repeat, in case it eluded you:
Using "that" instead of ", which" the speaker means he wants "to have an 
international experience that is very important ..." It doesn't 
necessarily include studying abroad.
If that's what the OP intended, then "that" is correct.
If, on the other hand, what's important is "studying abroad to have an 
international experience", then "<comma> which" is correct.
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 international experience", then "<comma> which" is correct.
We agree on the rules, but I think he intended the former meaning, you
think he intended the latter. Of course, *I* am right... (vvery witty face)
Bye, FB
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acquaintance immediately, and she was very thankful that she had never been
acquainted with him at all'.

 think he intended the latter. Of course, *I* am right... (vvery witty face)
You *do* like saying that, don't you? :-p
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 You *do* like saying that, don't you? :-p
You're right. Well, no, *I* am right. O.K., we're both right, though I'm
*righter*.
Bye, FB


 Bye, FB
If you're *righter* then I'm *more righter*... NO! I'm the *most 
rightest* of all. :-D
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 rightest* of all. :-D
Maybe you are, but who is the single most rightest of the Realm? *I* am...
that... thing, whatever it means.
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 rightest* of all. :-D
Nope you're all wrong. No one is wronger than the other in fact. ;-))
_He_ thought it was important. 
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