Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: UV, Cracker

Any further comments on accents or language, from those
in a position to make them?
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 in a position to make them?
Beg your pardon?
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 in a position to make them?
ISTM in Cracker they always say "copper" instead of "cop" and "nick"
usually means "police station" rather than "jail".
Are these general British usages or just Manchester's?
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Are these general British usages or just Manchester's?
"cop" is short for "copper" as far as I know. And "nick" for "police
station" seems to be standard British TV usage, at least.
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 in a position to make them?
L'ispettore capo con la barba ha un marcato accento regionale, che lo
rende anche meno comprensibile. 
http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/PersonDetail/personid-48894/Ricky_Tomlinson/
(Birth Place: Bispham, Blackpool, UK)
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youthful, fast, and dark."
http://www.cyberslayer.co.uk/jokes/joke0587.html

 rende anche meno comprensibile. 
Anche meno comprensibile di chi? Degli altri personaggi? 
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 Anche meno comprensibile di chi? Degli altri personaggi?
Intendevo che il forte accento rende le sue parole meno comprensibili,
in assoluto.
Pero`, il barbuto ispettore capo Wise e` effettivamente il personaggio
meno comprensibile, almeno per me.
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 meno comprensibile, almeno per me.
La Signora Harvey? Il fratello maggiore della vittima nel terzo 
episodio? Il ragazzo nell'ottavo episodio?
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 episodio? Il ragazzo nell'ottavo episodio?
Yes, I recall the vic's brother in the 3rd episode having an accent.
I haven't seen the others you name yet.
BTW, I've just found out that those 10 episodes were broadcast in 3
years' time. Each story was split in two or three parts, so that each
was less than one hour long, a more standard length for TV serials. 
Hmm... I wouldn't like watching Cracker in pieces :/
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 Hmm... I wouldn't like watching Cracker in pieces :/
Though it has to be said that the 3-hour ones are quite a lot
to do in one session.
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 in a position to make them?
Un'altra cosa che ho notato in Cracker, l'uso di "it was done to you"
con il significato di "it was owing to you" / "it was because of you"
/ "it was your fault".
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/ "it was your fault".
Really? Where? "it was down to you" seems plausible for meanings 2 and
3 there, but not "done to you". "due to you" seems more likely for
meaning 1.
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Adam Atkinson (
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 meaning 1.
Good to know :)
 
BTW, the "owing to" / "due to" usage was also discussed here:
http://www.lydbury.co.uk/discus/messages/5512/5288.html?1040114705
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In the sixth episode.
Ah, this is Floyd Malcolm in the bathroom scene? I'm pretty sure he's
saying "down to you" and "down to me".
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3 would be a perfect square

 saying "down to you" and "down to me".
Thanks :)
Era un'espressione che non conoscevo.
Ora ho trovato sul dizionario, per esempio
 "I put his mistake down to carelessness" = I attributed
 
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In that same Cracker episode, Fitz is sure that the rapist is a black
person because a victim says so. The rapist had a mask but she
recognizes "the way he spoke", IIRC. 
Do you think that's always possible? Aren't there black people that
speak just like whites? For instance, the black copper himself: his
accent sounds to me more "regional British" than "black".
[well, I should listen to him again more attentively, anyway. That
bloke doesn't say many lines in the story].
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