Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: "most students" o "most of the students"??'

come dire correttamente?
most italians?
most of the americans?
grazie
l

 most of the americans?
I think it depends. If I'm not mistaken, "most students" means "la maggior
parte degli studenti" (di tutti gli studenti), whereas "Most of the
students" means "la maggior parte degli studenti" (la maggior parte degli
studenti, il totale essendo un gruppo di studenti di cui si è già parlato).
It's far easier than you would think after my "clarification", which I hope
is essentially correct.
Ciao, FB
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 Ciao, FB
Well, I knew what you meant until I read your clarification. :) which is
essentially correct. Or did you just say that?
The difference is very slight but as you say, "most of the...xxx" implies a
reference to "xxx" that has already been brought up in conversation,
(because it uses the definite article,) whereas "most xxx" can be used for
generalities. In general, that is.
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 generalities. In general, that is.
Anche in questo caso, l'inglese mi pare piu' rigoroso e lineare
nell'uso dell'articolo determinativo.
In italiano, invece, si dice "la maggior parte degli studenti" sia per
riferirsi a un gruppo specificato in precedenza sia per riferirsi agli
studenti in generale.

 precedenza sia per riferirsi agli studenti in generale.
Nel primo caso si dice:
"La maggior parte di *quei* studenti"
 
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 "La maggior parte di *quei* studenti"
"Quegli studenti".
Ciao, FB
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 "Quegli studenti".
Già, idiotismo, mea culpa.
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Ovviamente intendi "quegli", ma anche in quel caso non si usa
sempre...
"La scuola elementare Pistelli conta 534 allievi. La maggior parte
degli studenti abitano nello stesso quartiere Mazzini-Delle Vittorie."

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, Enrico C typed:
: "La scuola elementare Pistelli conta 534 allievi. La maggior parte
: degli studenti abitano nello stesso quartiere Mazzini-Delle Vittorie."
Eh?! Andavi anche tu alla Pistelli?
Carramba...
jacopo
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Carramba...
Now translate that C word into English, if you can! ;-)
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 Now translate that C word into English, if you can! ;-)
Anyone who has studied Spanish knows "caramba".
I understand the Brazilian Portuguese equivalent is "safa!". FWIW.
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I understand the Brazilian Portuguese equivalent is "safa!". FWIW.
Right you are. Yet, he wrote Carramba!, capital C and two Rs
;)
Have you ever heard of Tuca Tuca?
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 wrote:
:: Eh?! Andavi anche tu alla Pistelli?
: Yep, and that was the last time I wore a blue pinafore!
Mhm, I don't remember wearing but possibly in the nursery school.
:: Carramba...
:
: Now translate that C word into English, if you can! ;-)
Erm... "Carramba che sorpresa!" was the title of a tv program based on the
format of "Surprise surprise" (having people meet again after years they
haven't heard of each other), and the name is intended as a mix between the
Spanish word (commonly used in Italian too) _caramba_ and compère's surname
(Raffaella _Carrà_).
jacopo
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, laverdure typed:
: Mhm, I don't remember wearing but possibly in the nursery school.
... wearing it, but, possibly, ...
jacopo
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... wearing it, but, possibly, ...
Btw, here is a list with 120 kinds of clothes in English.
http://www.rickwalton.com/freeu/brains/clothing.htm
Do you guys know all of them?
aloha shirt anklets apron 
bathing suit bathrobe bell-bottoms 
belt beret Bermuda shorts 
bib blazer blouse 
blue jeans bonnet boot 
bow tie boxer bracelet 
button-down shirt cap cape 
chain charm coat 
corduroys costume jewelry crew socks 
crutches culottes cutoffs 
denim jacket dress flannel shirt 
galoshes glasses gloves 
gym suit handkerchief hat 
jacket jeans jersey 
jogging suit jumper knee-socks 
knickers leg warmers leggings 
leotard locket mittens 
moccasins muff muffler 
neckerchief necklace necktie 
nightgown nightshirt overalls 
pajamas pants parka 
petticoat pinafore plaid shirt 
pleated skirt polo shirt poncho 
pullover raincoat ribbon 
ring robe rompers 
sailor suit sandals scarf 
shawl shirt shoes 
short-sleeved shirt shorts ski pants 
ski suit skirt slacks 
slicker slippers sneakers 
snow suit socks sport shirt 
stockings suit sundress 
sunglasses suspenders sweat socks 
sweat suit sweater sweatpants 
sweats sweatshirt swimsuit 
T-shirt takn top tie 
tights track suit trousers 
trunks turtleneck tutu 
underwear uniform V-neck sweater 
vest watch Windbreaker 
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Giò
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Have you ever heard of Tuca Tuca?
Rotfl.
He's not gonna get it...
:-)
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