Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Send, sent, sent

Scusate, mastico poco e male l'inglese, devo scrivere la seguente frase: 
questa mattina ti ho spedito.. [un determinato oggetto che nominerò 
specificatamente]
This morning I sent to you the [l'aggeggio]  ?
oppure I've send to ?
I've sent to è avevo spedito?
Se avete un minuto, fatemi pulizia mentale sui tempi verbali con l'esempio 
send. Poi prometto che ristudio daccapo perchè non si può essere così fessi. 
E' eticamente sbagliato.
Grazie mille

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Prendi la mia affermazione con le dovute cautele.
Per quanto ne sappia, poichè vuoi riferiti ad un evento in un determinato 
momento del passato (questa mattina), dovresti usare il past simple quindi 
la frase dovrebbe essere
I sent you this gear this morning (ho scritto gear al posto di aggeggio)
Il present perfect (I have sent, I've sent) o il past perfect (I had sent, 
I'd sent) si usano per azioni compiute in un tempo non definito nel passato 
e si usano per frasi tipo
I've already sent you this letter-> Io ti ho già inviato questa lettera
I'd just sent him that e.mail-> Io gli avevo appena inviato quella email
Francesco 


Cavolo...
Mi correggo
- I sent this gear to you this morning
- I've already sent this letter to you
- I'd just sent that e.mail to him
Ora dovrebbero essere giuste 

 - I'd just sent that e.mail to him
why did you use past perfect?
I mean this sounds to me odd, unless you meant it as a part of a more 
complex sentece, like
"I'd just sent that e.mail to him when I discovered to have written the 
wrong address"
I'm not sure, but it seems to me, that the only two kind of ''pure'' past in 
english are PAST SIMPLE AND PRESENT PERFECT
The others, like PAST PERFECT, are not meant to stand alone, are meant as 
part of complex sentences like hypotetica sentences
or similar thing.

 Grazie mille
qua trovi una piccola grammatica di base
http://www.nspeak.com/newbasic/grammatica/grammar.htm
masgar

 wrong address"
Ok, you are right.
Your sentence fit in with this context better than mine 

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The originals were just as correct.
I sent this to you = I sent you this
R.

I sent this to you = I sent you this
Sai, anche io pensavo cosě ma leggendo il dizionario ho trovato solamente 
frasi del tipo
"to send something to someone"
Ora non so se si puň dire
I send you this 

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No, you wouldn't say "I send you this", but neither would you say
"I send this to you". The reason is different from above. If, in the
present, I was sending you something, for example, a file over the
internet, I'd write "I'm sending you this file" or "I'm sending this
file to you". We use the progressive tense more often in English.
If you're speaking to someone else, you could say:
"I'm sending him this", I'm sending this to him"
But the simple present is used for habitual or ongoing
actions associated with a time frame, eg:
"I send him this file every week" or "I send this file
to him every week"
The same applies to most verbs:
"I'm walking in the garden"(now). I walk in the garden for 
exercise" (habitually)
"I'm typing a reply", but "I type every day".
Raymot

 "I send this to you". 
I respectfully disagree (although I'm butting in to the
middle of a thread whose beginning I cannot currently see ...).
You could quite legitimately write:
"I send you this letter in the hope that it will prove useful."
That may or may not match whatever example it is that triggered this
thread, but I wanted to point out that you can say "I send you
this ..." without it necessarily being a habitual action.
Antonio

"I send you this letter in the hope that it will prove useful."
Hai ragione. You've caught me out! But note that you had to add to 
it to legitimise it, whereas my additions were for explanation.
In the context you've used it, it's more formal than "I'm sending
you this letter in the hope ..."
I still maintain that you would not say "I send you this file"
by itself, but you could (and hopefully would) say "I'm sending 
you this file". 
Raymot

 it to legitimise it, whereas my additions were for explanation.
As I said, I was unconstrained by any knowledge of what had
actually started the thread :-)
Antonio

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Veramente utile!  Grazie.
Ari