Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Grading

Scusate, ma esiste un termine italiano per descrivere il 'grading' dei
componenti elettronici? A me viene in mente solo 'classificazione'.
Il Picchi offre anche "valutazione" e "cernita", che rendono l'idea ma non
si adattano alla frase che vorrei tradurre.
'Due componenti che differiscono solo per il grading.'
Al momento userei ' che differiscono solo per il livello di prestazioni'.
Qualcuno ha in tasca la soluzione e la vuole gettare sul NG?
saluti e grazie,
Peltio
(un po' assente ultimamente, è vero)

 'Due componenti che differiscono solo per il grading.'
... tolleranze? ... accuratezza / precisione?
... categoria di come sopra?
HTH
--
Gnomo
...any way the wind blows...

 componenti elettronici? A me viene in mente solo 'classificazione'.
Forse intendono gli indici di protezione IP?
-- 
Mary

 Al momento userei ' che differiscono solo per il livello di prestazioni'.
With 'grading', you're referring to the percentage of accuracy of the
specified values of the component, right? Non so che un termine esiste, ma
in tale caso, 'grado d'accuratezza' non funziona?

 in tale caso, 'grado d'accuratezza' non funziona?
dipende... capacità?
eppure no, non si può fare un discorso così, se dico capacità
mi riferisco ad un condensatore, ma se dico "capacità di un resistore"
sbaglio...

specified values of the component, right?
Yes and no. The term you are referring to is 'tolerance', I guess.
In my case a better grading could result in an extendend operative range, or
the possibility to stretch the device characteristics to their maximum
extent (a higher maximum current, for example). It could even be due to the
lack of imperfections that leads to a subsequent longer lifetime. It's
not just a matter of tolerance or accuracy. It's more a matter of quality.
cheers,
Peltio
"Safety, Quality, Quanity: in that order"
    A company's advertisment
    The typo is theirs.

Forse intendono gli indici di protezione IP?
No, si riferiscono alla selezione fatta su i componenti alla fine del
processo produttivo: vengono testati e quelli migliori vanno, per dire, in
classe A, quelli meno performanti [1] vanno in classe B e quelli che proprio
fanno schifo vanno a ripetizione a settembre : ) o vengono messi nelle
apparecchiature elettromedicali destinate al terzo mondo.
E' una selezione di qualità. Mi pare si faccia anche con le memorie RAM
vendute al dettaglio: ci sono quelle garantite per determinati timing
(CAS/RAS e compagnia bella) ed altre 'per poveretti' o per catene di
informatica.
Grazie comunque per l'opinione.
saluti,
Peltio
[1] detesto questo termine e l'ho usato solo per esprimere il mio disappunto
verso il suo impiego nella lingua italiana. : )

 It's not just a matter of tolerance or accuracy. It's more a matter of quality.
"Grading" non è semplicemente "valutazione", che si parli di componenti
elettronici o d'altro? Perché non si adatta? 
Ciao, FB
-- 
"Gli americani sono ignoranti per loro stessa natura"
that is "The Americans are naturally ignorant"
(Paolo Bonardi on it.cultura.linguistica)

 not just a matter of tolerance or accuracy. It's more a matter of quality.
Yes, it is tolerance and it's expressed in percentage. Tolerance is related
to the delimitation of the operative range of a device and is a grading
determined by manufacturers that is related to the quality of the component.
It seems to me, however, that what you are talking about is the use of a
device beyond its specifications and it seems unlikely that a manufacturer
would assign a grade to that capability since it defeats the purpose of
specifications. Regarding the higher maximum current, devices do have power
ratings. Is it really the reliability of a component with which you're
concerned? If so, lets throw all modern surfacemount capacitors away and go
back to the big old rolled sandwiches.

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In the same vein, some of the Intel low-end processors are processors
which failed some test, and some functionalities were disabled and the
device renamed. The only specific example I can think of off-hand is
that a 486 processor which failed certain tests had the math
co-processor disabled, and was renamed a 386. I think the same holds
true for newer devices. I often wondered if all 386's were failed
486's, or if there was actually a 386 manufactured intentionally.
Joe from Massachusetts

co-processor disabled, and was renamed a 386.
Sounds more like 486DX vs 486SX, from what I remember.
I suspect the same is true today of the rated _speed_ of processors.
-- 
Adam Atkinson (
gh...@mistral.co.uk
)
If you are angry with someone, walk a mile in their shoes. Then you
will be a mile away from them. And you'll have their shoes.

device renamed.
Yep, sort of.
My bulk video card has 3.3 ns RAM chips that can't be pushed at the same
speed as the retail cards of the same brand and model without producing
artifacts. Chips of the same kind, but with different grading.
In this sense grading is more general than tolerance (even though as Tony
has cleverly pointed out in the end the device works better because its
parameters are closer to the optimal values). But I can't find the correct
Italian term to describe this.
cheers,
Peltio

 Italian term to describe this.
I have my doubts about there being an English term to describe this. In any
case, it seems to me to be 'underrating', not 'grading'.

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When I worked at DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) [ Requiescat in
Pace :>(  ], they were developing a prototype of a video card, and the
design was pushing the hardware to the limits. We discovered that only
RAM chips manufactured by Fairchild would work satisfactorily in the
prototype, even though all RAM chips from all manufacturers had the
same specifications. It would seem that most of the manufacturers
strove to "meet the specifications", whereas Fairchild strove to "meet
and exceed the specifications". An interesting note regarding the
demise of DEC: the founder, a Mr. Olsen, once said, "I can see no
reason why an individual would want a computer in his home".
Joe from Massachusetts

 artifacts. Chips of the same kind, but with different grading.
range?