Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: migliorare la pronuncia

Ciao a tutti.
Potreste consigliarmi degli strumenti didattici (cd, dvd...) che mi
consentano di migliorare la mia pronuncia? Sapete se esistono dei
vocabolari multimediali con registrazioni della corretta pronuncia dei
lessemi?
Grazie

 consentano di migliorare la mia pronuncia? 
"English Pronunciation in Use" della Cambridge University Press
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 lessemi?
Non specifichi se parli di dizionari bilingue o monolingua.
Per esempio l'Hazon-Garzanti Clicsu CD, bilingue, ha i file sonori
della pronuncia.
Anche l'Oxford Advanced Genie CD, monolingua.
Qui trovi anche alcuni dizionari online gratuiti con pronuncia.
http://wiki.news.nic.it/DizionariItCulturaLinguisticaInglese

 lessemi?
Inglese-italiano-inglese: sicuramente il Ragazzini ha la pronuncia,
britannica, di tutte le parole.
Inglese: Collins Dictionary for Advanced Learners (britannico).
Penso che quasi tutti i dizionari con cd abbiano la pronuncia registrata
delle parole. Il Picchi, che è molto apprezzato, non credo.
Ciao, FB
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 britannica, di tutte le parole.
Non quello che ho io, pero` :/    il  cd-rom Zanichelli-Ragazzini della
serie "I dizionari per sempre", preso in edicola con una rivista.

delle parole. Il Picchi, che č molto apprezzato, non credo.
I'm searching for a good bilingual cd-rom dictionary...
You seem well informed about this topic, can I ask you some questions?
I don't mind pronunciation, I need the possibility to search for words
and example sentences too. The ideal solution would be a classic
dictionary with example sentences and the possibility to search
throughout the whole dictionary. Do you suggest "Picchi" dictionary?
Can it be easily used in a Windows environment? Can fast searches be
done? Is there the possibility to activate the dictionary with a right
click feature or something like that?
Ciao
Franco

 click feature or something like that?
I don't know, but I don't think so. 
P.S. Should I have left out the article before "Ragazzini" and "Picchi"? I
never know how to handle this sort of names.
Bye, FB
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 wrote:

Mi sapresti dire se i file sonori dei CD di cui mi parli sono semplici
voci sinth o se invece si tratta di registrazioni di un madrelingua?
(sono interessato solo a quest'ultima tipologia).
Grazie


If you write in Furlàn on the computer, how do you get the "g" with
the upside-down ^ to print?
Do you have to use a special keyboard, like the Czech keyboard to get
the upside-down ^ to print over the "g"? Or maybe there's a Furlàn
keyboard?
Or, do you just forget about it?   :>)
gioventù = {g(?)}oventût
That reminds me of the difference between the pronunciation of  the
"J" in "Jose" in Spanish and Portuguese.
If you call a Portuguese guy named Joe "Jose", as the Spanish
pronounce it, he will be greatly offended, because the "J" in "Jose",
in Portuguese, is pronounced like the "j" in the French "je", or like
the "s" in the English "pleasure" (Jozay) , while the Spanish "J" in
"Jose" is pronounced something like the English initial "h" (Hosay). A
Portuguese-American girl told me this about her father, whose name was
Jose.
Jo(s)e from Massachusetts

trust somebody else can say more about it.
Is yours a suggestion to buy them both?  ^_^
Since I prefer to have a wide variety of examples, I think I'll go for
the Ragazzini. Probably I will buy also the Picchi in the future...
Speaking about the Ragazzini, is it handy to use? Better or worse than
the Picchi? I have read an old faq of this newsgroup (maybe the one
hosted on TheRealm site, not sure) and it states that the Picchi
hasn't got a functional interface or good integration with the
operating system.
Ciao
Franco

gioventù = {g(?)}oventût
I'm not sure, but by daily experience I would write "GJOventût".
Certainly there must be a rigorous rule...
Anyway, if you happen to speak to Furlàn people, you could hear:
gioventuut - ghioventuut - zoventuut - other
Ciao
Franco

 operating system.
I couldn't say if that's true, but I dare say it is.
Bye, FB
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can tell me why a man who possesses one of the most brilliant minds of this
century can't say his prepositions or articles".
(Murder by Death)

 only by daily experience...
I would certainly enjoy hearing you speak Furlàn to a Calabrese who
answers back in Calabrese! Once, in Vicenza, I asked an Italian friend for
a light for my cigarette. He was in the Air Force, and was not from the
Veneto, and didn't know the dialect at all, but I just assumed that
everyone picked up a few important basic phrases, as I did, phrases like
"Do' ombrete" (Two glasses of red wine). I asked him in dialect, "Ti te ga
un fu'minante", (Do you have a match), and he replied, "Cosa dici, che son
fulminante?"   :>(
I thought you were the type who would be very much into the dialect and
would be involved in something serious,like translating Plinio il "Vieli"
from Latin into Furlàn.  ;>))
Joe from Massachusetts
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oggi no, domani sì

 (sono interessato solo a quest'ultima tipologia).
L'Oxford Advanced Genie CD ha registrazioni di madrelingua, se non
erro, e riporta sia la pronuncia BrE che quella AmE, quando le due
pronunce divergono.

 I dont' know what "fast" means: I run Windows 2000 with 64 Mb Ram...
Si comporta bene Dialog con 64 MB di Ram?
E' interessante saperlo, a volte si legge che č un programma pesante per la
memoria.
(scusate l'OT) 
-- 
Maria Luisa C - 21/08/2004 16.31.32

ADPUF wrote:
 > Maybe someone in
 > it-alt.cultura.lingua.furlan
 > is interested in these messages.
 >
 > on 07:46, venerdì 20 agosto 2004 joscurtin wrote:
 >
 >>If you write in Furlàn on the computer, how do you get the
 >>"g" with the upside-down ^ to print?
The g with the hacek is not used in the official friulian orthography: 
"Il gjat al zuiave" (The cat was playing)
In western Friuli and in the towns it's "gjat" that begins with the 
soft-g [dZ], while "zuiave" begins with [z]; in rural central and 
northern Friuli "zuiave" begins with [dZ] and "gjat" with the 
characteristic Furlan palatalized g^j.
But while most furlans have agreed to adopt the official system (which 
seems quite sensible, IMO), some diehards are still insisting on g-hacek 
despite its being ill-suited for the [z] pronunciation of many Furlans, 
so you'll still find it kicking around.
 >>Do you have to use a special keyboard, like the Czech
 >>keyboard to get the upside-down ^ to print over the "g"?
 >>Or maybe there's a Furlàn keyboard?
A French keyboard would suffice: ç is the only special character 
required (in addition to âêîôû and àèìòù).
Cùipo

ADPUF wrote:
 > Maybe someone in
 > it-alt.cultura.lingua.furlan
 > is interested in these messages.
 >
 > on 07:46, venerdì 20 agosto 2004 joscurtin wrote:
 >
 >>If you write in Furlàn on the computer, how do you get the
 >>"g" with the upside-down ^ to print?
The g with the hacek is not used in the official friulian orthography: 
"Il gjat al zuiave" (The cat was playing)
In western Friuli and in the towns it's "gjat" that begins with the 
soft-g [dZ], while "zuiave" begins with [z]; in rural central and 
northern Friuli "zuiave" begins with [dZ] and "gjat" with the 
characteristic Furlan palatalized g^j.
But while most furlans have agreed to adopt the official system (which 
seems quite sensible, IMO), some diehards are still insisting on g-hacek 
despite its being ill-suited for the [z] pronunciation of many Furlans, 
so you'll still find it kicking around.
 >>Do you have to use a special keyboard, like the Czech
 >>keyboard to get the upside-down ^ to print over the "g"?
 >>Or maybe there's a Furlàn keyboard?
A French keyboard would suffice: ç is the only special character 


 memoria.
Sě. Si apre in un tempo accettabile e si chiude in un tempo un po' meno
accettabile, ma non infinito. Da quando sono passato a 'sta cavolo di
ultima versione, spesso quando chiudo si verifica l'errore "The application
seems to be frozen" (niente meno...), perň.
Ciao, FB
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(Joey DoWop Dee on it.cultura.linguistica.inglese)

from Latin into Furlàn.  ;>))
Not at all. At least, not in this life!
There are a lot of things I would like to do, unfortunately a day
lasts only 24 hours! I have a lot of interests that I can't follow as
well as I would like to...
I state that Furlàn is disappearing among young people, and this is a
shame. I keep talking Furlàn as a sign of regard to our ancestors and
traditions too!
Wait a moment, I forgot I have a Furlàn dictionary! Here you are:
Quotes from Il Nuovo (1935!! O_O Is it valuable?) Pirona - Vocabolario
Friulano:
"
'Zoventût sf. = Giovinezza, gioventù; anche per I giovani: La zoventût
di une volte, di ué - Zoventût come a Udin no si ciate in nissùn lûc,
vill. pop. Anche Gioventût, zuvintût.
"
"
Il suono dolce della s e z iniziali è segnato con 's, 'z ('save,
'siminâ, 'zei, 'zovin, ecc."
"
"
I suoni caratteristici fr. della c e g palatizzate sono scritti ci,
gi, cia, gia,cie, gie, ecc.
La c palatale fu variamente rappresentata nella grafia fr., ma
principalmente nelle due forme: chi chia chie, ecc. e chi (la c con un
segnetto tipo virgola sotto, non la trovo nella tabella ascii NDF),
chia, chie, ecc. (sempre con il segnetto sotto la c NDF). Alla vecchia
forma, solo apparentemente analoga, ci ca co (con il segnetto sotto
sempre NDF) ecc. corrispondono nel Vocabolario le trascrizioni ci, cia
cio, ecc. o zi, za, zo, ecc. (ciondar, zondar; ciuite, zuite; ecc).
Il gruppo s seguito da c palatale è scritto s'ci, s'cia, s'cie, ecc.
(s'civâ, risc'ciâ, ecc.).
La c palatale in fine di parola è indicata con c' (dinc', grôc', dùc',
ecc.).
"
Hope this helps... ^_^
Ciao
Franco

instance.
Thanks for your help.
Ciao
Franco

 
Grazie della risposta.
In chiusura la vedi una finestrella sulla taskbar con scritto "Pulizia..."?
Probabilmente č quello che impegna un po' piů a lungo il tutto.
Ma non disperare, vedrai che tra un po' ci sarŕ una nuova beta pubblica, piů
leggera.
Ciao, 
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Maria Luisa C - 21/08/2004 22.57.00