Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Queen's Speech 2

Here's the right web page [1]:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/uk_politics/2004/queens_speech/default.stm#
I mention it for those who may be interested, because it took me some time
to find it [1].
I've watched the debate at the House of Commons that followed the speech:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/news_web/video/40557000/bb/40557625_bb_16x9.ram
Who is the first to speak? He's ever so Scottish, isn't he? He sounds like
Pippin in TLotR.
I've uploaded a sixty-second audio sample:
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/fb83/scot60.mp3
I was much impressed by the debate, which I only partly watched: is it
always such fun (I mean, they seem to be having fun)?
[1] Here's the very ram file of the speech:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/news_web/video/40555000/bb/40555955_bb_16x9.ram
Bye, FB
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Pippin in TLotR.
The accent on the audio below sounds quite mild to me. You know when
they are "ever so Scottish", that's when you have to keep nodding your
head when they speak to you, and just pretend that you understand what
they are saying ;)) 
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http://xoomer.virgilio.it/fb83/scot60.mp3
Anyway it's amazing, he sounds like an Italian man who doesn't know English
very well. In a way, it's simpler than RP, because, for instance, "heard"
is [heard], more or less.
Bye, FB
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On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 22:04:42 GMT, FB wrote:
Chi redige il testo di questo discorso della regina, la regina stessa o il
governo?
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Xakero
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_ Aristotle Onassis

 governo?
I've no idea, but I should think the Queen pens it, after receiving some
clear suggestions by the Prime Minister; all the more so, since gracious
speech (so it is always referred to) is pretty detailed. The Queen hasn't a
great actual power, as far as I know, so it would be rather awkward if she
said "my government will..." and the government did quite the reverse. Then
again, during the debate that followed the speech, everybody, and Tony
Blair, too, commented on the speech as if it had been unknown to them since
it was actually delivered. The Queen must have some influence, but I dare
say she can't say things the government just doesn't approve of. I don't
think, either, she would say anything she doesn't think. A bit of a mess,
innit?
Bye, FB
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Locked from the inside. That can only mean one thing, and I don't know what
it is.
(Murder by Death)

 governo?
The government writes it - the Queen has no say in it at all. She just
reads it out.
-- 
Mary

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Really? That's funny. Blair acted as if he had heard it, rather than
written it.
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 written it.
Another thing I found surprising:
QUOTE ()
The Speaker must be impartial in all matters. He or she is elected by MPs
in the House of Commons but then ceases to be involved in party politics.
All sides in the House rely on the Speaker's disinterest. Even after
retirement a former Speaker will not take part in political issues. Taking
on the office means losing close contact with old colleagues and keeping
apart from all groups and interests, even avoiding using the House of
Commons dining rooms or bars. The Speaker continues as a Member of
Parliament dealing with constituent's letters and problems.
UNQUOTE
In Italy, the speaker would claim this is not democracy (not being allowed
to go out with colleagues etc.), he would go to some Maria De Filippi's
programme and the old system would be restored in a few days.
Bye, FB
-- 
Just as I thought. Another test that could have cost us our lives, saved
only by the fact that I am enormously well-bred.
(Murder by Death)

 programme and the old system would be restored in a few days.
Note that the House of Commons has been running around 700 years longer
than comparable institutions. It may have its quaint little ways, but
it knows the business pretty well. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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