Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Take her ?

Nella seminale sitcom "Some mothers do 'ave 'em Michael Crawford  ha appena 
detto della moglie che deve andare a trovare in ospedale :
I' ll take her some apples .
Ma non era vietato ?
E se qualcuno dei miei studenti lo sente ?
Come farò a spiegarglielo ?
Mary , Adam cosa dite ?
Sal

Vietato cosa?
"I'll take her some apples" = "Le porto delle mele".

 "I'll take her some apples" = "Le porto delle mele".
Any Italian student would observe that it should have been "I'll bring here
some apples".
Bye, FB
-- 
"I saw something nasty in the woodshed!"
(Cold Comfort Farm, the film)

Well, that rather depends. If you're talking to someone who's with
the person to whom you are taking some apples, then I suppose so.


< Thanks , even though this is the first time I have heard it in  the 30 
years I have tried to speak the language.
Yours
Sal 

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I'm clearly not understanding the problem.
What is "vietato", and why? What is wrong with the sentence "I'll take
her some apples"? Or is it wrong only in this context for some reason?
If you and I are in place A, and someone else in in place B, I
might very well tell you "I'll take her some apples".
If you're in place B with "her", I could say to you, over the phone,
"I'll bring her some apples".
If all three of us are in place A, and there are some apples
in place B, I could say "I'll fetch her some apples", I suppose.

 books"
Of course I meant "buy me some books". Sorry
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You can say "But me no buts.", I think.

 That goes without saying , mate .
Sal

 You can say "But me no buts.", I think.
Only if he says "but" first ;)
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 might very well tell you "I'll take her some apples".
< One learns something everyday .
I have spent 30 years under the assumption that you took something with you 
and brought it to somebody who was somewhere else (even in the same room but 
in different position )
You took letters to the post office, took people to the airport but you 
brought people things .
It seems I was badly mistaken .
Yours
Sal 

He said "I'll take her some apples", not "I'll take you some apples."
He
wasn't talking to the recipient.


Ok , but I thought you were not allowed to say even that .
I have watched film (sometimes three a day ) for the past ten years , read 
pulp literature both British and American for the past 25 years, listened to 
enormous, huge and heapish (I have made up the word ) amounts of   radio 
shows, I have dutifully watched Eastenders every day for the past 3 years 
and I always remember the day and occasion when I learnt a new English word 
( my deranged persona began doing that when I was 16 years old ) and
YET
I have never heard anybody say that .
I have always heard
I 'll bring her some apples .
Sal 

Giò
-Tutto ciò che può esistere, esiste.
          (Tullio Regge)

 shows, I have dutifully watched Eastenders every day for the past 3 years
I'm speechless (not to mention jealous).
Are you a trust-fund baby?

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 < No ;I am a teacher and you know teachers have a lot of spare time .
Sal 

 "I'll take her some apples" = "Le porto delle mele".
In italiano non si puo' rendere con "Le prendo delle mele" ?
Ovvero intendendo dire prendo delle mele per poi portarle a lei.
E' questo il senso che ha quella frase in inglese?
Oppure significa solamente "le porto delle mele" ? 

  < No ;I am a teacher and you know teachers have a lot of spare time .
Yeah! And, true to everyone darkest fears, they spend it watching TV and
reading pulp fiction…
sq

 Nella seminale sitcom "Some mothers do 'ave 'em
'Ave 'em green thumbs or 'ave 'em children? 
seminal
aggettivo
1. [work, thinker ] influente; [influence ] determinante
2. fisiol. [fluid ] seminale.
se|mi|nà|le
agg.
1 TS bot., relativo al seme, alla semente
2 TS biol. spermatico [quadro 28]
;)))

 on it.cultura.linguistica.inglese :
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http://lings.ln.man.ac.uk/Students/CourseUnits/LI1032/worksheet6.pdf
2. Decide which of the following sentences have normal interpretations, and
which have none. Specify the conditions necessary for take and bring to
have normal interpretations (e.g. the relative locations of participants).
Why are the sentences that are not acceptable bad? On the basis of these
data, give a concise specification of the deictic properties of bring and
take.
(a) Take it here.
(b) Bring it here.
(c) I will bring it to you.
(d) I will take it to you.
(e) I will bring it to John.
(f) I will take it to John.
(g) You will take it to me.
(h) You will bring it to me.
(i) You will bring it to John.
(j) You will take it to John.
(k) John will bring it to you.
(l) John will take it to you.
(m)John will bring it to Mary.
(n) John will take it to Mary.
(o) John told me he would bring to you.
(p) John told me he would take it to you.
(q) Did John tell you he would bring it to me?
(r) Did John tell you he would take it to me?
(s) John told me he would bring it to Mary.
(t) John told me he would take it to Mary

http://www.usingenglish.com/handouts/327.html
Q1 - I didn't ____ my phone with me this morning; can I borrow yours?
bring
fetch
take
Q2 - I'm off now- I have to ____ the kids from school.
bring
fetch
take
Q3 - I'll ____ the letter with me and post it while I'm out.
bring
fetch
take
Q4 - Yesterday, she forgot to ____ her homework to school and came back
upset.
bring
fetch
take
Q5 - I threw a stick for my dog to ____.
bring
fetch
take
Q6 - When you come, could you ____ some wine?
bring
fetch
take
Q7 - My sister ____ to the airport and saw me off and she'll pick me up
when I get back.
brought
fetched
took
Q8 - It ____ me an hour to get home.
brings
fetches
takes
Q9 - ____ it over there, please.
Bring
Fetch
Take
Q10 - ____ it here, please.
Bring
Fetch
Take

 Choose the correct answer. Click here for the answer sheet.
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Quiz:  Bring, Fetch & Take
Choose the correct answer. Click here for the answer sheet.
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Who the hell says fetch anymore? 

In reference to dogs, it's pretty usual.

 In reference to dogs, it's pretty usual.
Wooof! :)
-- 
Enrico C
...still legal tender...