Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: [OT] Doctor Who (2005)

If I remember correctly, there was a discussion about (or simply a 
reference to) Doctor Who some posts ago.
Since I'm keen on Sci Fi, I decided to give it a try, but I found it a 
bit silly. It reminded me of some Bim Bum Bam short film I saw in my 
childhood. Does the original series have the same atmosphere? The 
transition from Battlestar Galactica to Doctor Who (2005) was pretty 
harsh...
Kiuhnm

 harsh...
They're very different shows. Right now I wouldn't know which one I'd 
choose (if I don't think about the terrible third season of Galactica, 
if I did I'd choose the Doctor right away).
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 if I did I'd choose the Doctor right away).
I'm about to see the third season. So far, I think that the best one is 
the first.
Kiuhnm

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Consider the culture of the time when the series was produced. I would 
venture a guess that you are too young to have watched it the first time 
around. Would I be right?
In any event, I was not too young; I watched it; I was taken with it; I 
thought it was excellent.
When I watched it again a year or two ago I was amused at how "dated" it is, 
and how ingenuous. I fully enjoyed watching it again, but it made me realize 
just how much more innocent (ignorant?) and simple we were then, 
unsophisticated.
Not like now, when we're just the bee's knees!  :-)
(Or the cat's pajamas, for the ailurophiles out there, of which I'm one.)
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Joey DoWop Dee
Remember: It is To Laugh.

 Not like now, when we're just the bee's knees!  :-)
Meaning?
Kiuhnm

 childhood. Does the original series have the same atmosphere?
Over the course of 26 years the original series did a bit of
everything.

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MORE COFFEE, Joe!
Yes, I was talking about the original series.. what do *I* know?
the bee's knees: (informal) an outstandingly good person or thing.
[ORIGIN: first used to denote something small and insignificant, transferred 
to the opposite sense in U.S. slang.]
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Kiuhnm ha scritto:
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Dr. Who and Battlestar Galactica are completely different, they do not 
share the same goal, even if both are "remakes" of old series.
The British series aims to preserve the feeling of the original Dr. Who, 
  while updating a few elements here and there, BG, on the other hand, 
is almost a complete revamp of the previous series.
Dr. Who is simpler, more naive in a certain way. Just think about the 
incredibly advanced Tardis that needs a good kicking every now and then 
to keep working, or the vaguely retro design of the alien creatures.

 if I did I'd choose the Doctor right away).
No way! The third season was excellent!
Did you hear that they officially announced that the next will be the 
last season? :(

 and isn't especially silly.
The story is not silly in itself, but the characters act as if they were 
having a picnic and the scenes are quite grotesque. Have you ever seen a 
school recital?
Kiuhnm

 school recital?
The Doctor often takes a very casual approach to danger, or heads
right for it.

 I saw "Rose", which is the first episode.
Well, it's just the pilot! Go ahead and see at least the first season 
(even though the second one is just as good... while the third, after 
the first two episodes, is leaving me a bit cold so far). You'll 
probably change your mind.
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 probably change your mind.
You don't seem to like third seasons very much ;-)
Kiuhnm

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Spot on , Joey . And so is Kiuhnm when he talks about the (frequent) 
silliness of recent versions . In the old days it wasn't tongue-in-cheek and 
self-consciously joky ; but that's a trend that's affected much of TV and 
film production . The James Bond books were very popular before the films 
were made :   the first films reflected more of the tone of the books , and 
then they started becoming sillier and jokier and self-parodying to the 
point of becoming totally unwatchable . A typical recent example on British 
TV , which starred David Tennant (the current Dr. Who) , was a series 
dramatising the life of Casanova ; anyone who's read the Memoires would 
think it impossible not to come up with a fascinating and enthralling drama 
, but what we got was superficiality and jokiness and  -  well, silliness 
('gloriously camp' was one approving verdict !) . The fact that the writer 
(Russell T Davies) of both the new 'Dr Who' and of 'Casanova' was awarded 
the Dennis Potter Prize for Television Writing is a splendid irony that says 
it all .
Incidentally , for the Italian readers who watch English films/TV , why not 
see if you can track down one of the Dennis Potter series (maybe 'Pennies 
from Heaven' , or 'The Singing Detective') ? That's real television drama .
Mike