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i won't go
che significa specico quel :won't non so ma come mi ricordasse il verbo
volere.
deusch

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 sono molto affidabile in materia. ;)
ok lo allora la tua risposta la prendero soltanto in considerazione sperando
che qlk affermi quello  che hai appena detto.
deutsch

che qlk affermi quello  che hai appena detto.
Si' si', e' giusto
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I know you can't speak, I know you can't sign
So cry right here on the dotted line

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I won't go! can have 2 meanings
1) I refuse to go! (this is the most likely meaning)
2) I predict that I will not go.
Evi

 2) I predict that I will not go.
I would consider this response misleading for someone learning English. There is
no sense of uncertainty in the sentence 'I won't go' except for the
impossibility of ever knowing what will happen when speaking of the future. La
frase 'I won't go' indica chiaramente che la persona non intende mica andare.

 impossibility of ever knowing what will happen when speaking of the
future.
<That is the point .
   There is .
   I am so pessimistic that I predict I will not go.
Yours
Sal

    I am so pessimistic that I predict I will not go.
'I won't go' significa che non vado e 'I predict that I will not go' significa
che indovino di non andare. A te ci sono gli stessi significati? Pensa alla
ragione vera che hai risposto cosě.

Pensa alla ragione vera che hai risposto così.
Non per fare l'interprete di Sal, che non ne ha bisogno, ma lui ha
risposto alla tua frase
<<except for the impossibility of ever knowing what will happen when
speaking of the future>>
In altre parole, nel suo pessimismo Sal si avvicina al pensiero di
quel filosofo che scriveva: <<Quando dico a un amico "Ci vediamo
stasera", in realtà sto facendo una scommessa>>.
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Ciao
Frank

 stasera", in realtà sto facendo una scommessa>>.
Provo a immaginare questo filosofo mentre insegna la lingua inglese. Forse
usarebbe il metodo di Heisenberg?

 sono molto affidabile in materia. ;)
dopo tempo mi è sorto una curiosita
i won't go è la forma contratta di i will not go?
se si come sara se è possibile una forma contratta di ''andrò''
deutsch

 se si come sara se è possibile una forma contratta di ''andrò''
Now I don't get what you mean...
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 I cannot reply because I do not know what the hell you are talking about.
    I  usually trust native speakers , provided they are not the bidello
from Frosinone who used to teach Italian classes in Casablanca while I was
working there as a teacher of English , German and Italian at the Italian
High School..
Evi, who is a native speaker and seems to know her business, was the one who
provided the explanation.
Yours
Sal

 Now I don't get what you mean...
mi spiego meglio i won't go = non andrò mo andrò come si dice?
deutsch

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 provided the explanation.
It is a common mistake that people make in life to trust authority-based rather
than data-based information. You will find, among native speakers, wide ranges
of ability not only in speaking the language but also in being able to
articulate its subtleties and intricacies to others. This latter quality is what
we find valuable in the best instructors. However, regardless of what may be the
talents or limitations of any particular person, we should always evaluate the
information presented itself. Even the most learned native-speaking professional
teacher can make a mistake. In this case, it is misleading to say to someone
learning English that 'I won't go' means 'I predict that I will not go'. Despite
the philosophical implications of relativity and uncertainty in any future
event, this approach will ultimately confuse the person. That was the essence of
my original observation. It was as simple as that, an attempt to steer a learner
who is trying to learn a foreign language in a practical direction. When I asked
you to think about why you responded so, I was suggesting that your defense of
the misleading statement might be based on something other than a conviction,
from your own knowledge, that it was correct. Based on your stated reasons, I
would surmise that my perception was accurate. This newsgroup may not be an
academic environment, but striving to provide good practical information should
still be the primary goal.