Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: cerotto

patch, plaster o eventualmente band-aid?
mi serve 1 nome da imparare definitivamente (1!).
patch va bene?
ciao
-- 
 >Giovanni

 patch va bene?
no. "band-aid" e' una marca particolare, ma tutti lo usano
per l'oggetto in generale.  "sticking plaster" e' il nome
dell'oggetto, in UK, ma a quanto pare in USA non si usa.

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Sticking plaster?  Never heard.  That sounds painful!  Band-aid sounds
a lot better.
http://www.bandaid.com/
gfc

 a lot better.
I've never heard of sticking plaster either but then I've never in my life 
had occassion to say sticky wicket either, nor mistake a flashlight for the 
ancient tool it replaced.
Band-Aid is a brand name so you won't find it written on the box of any 
bandage product except those made by Johnson & Johnson. Competing companies 
use the word 'bandage' or 'plastic bandage' or 'sheer bandage' depending on 
the quality they're highlighting for marketing purposes. 

 the quality they're highlighting for marketing purposes.
If you say "bandage" it's not all that clear. People would _actually_
say "band-aid" in most cases, surely?

 say "band-aid" in most cases, surely?
I agree that band-aid has become a common generic term. It even appears in
metaphorical use, such as 'put a band-aid on the problem'. To say 'put a
bandage on the problem' would not have the same meaning. However, it isn't
uncommon among people I know to use the word 'bandage' and let the context
of the size of the wound indicate the type required. But then, people I know
are as likely to say 'tissue' as 'kleenex', and 'photocopy' as 'xerox', and
this may not be the case in other environments.
Although it's not really a valid measure, these Google results may be
interesting.
"bandage on the cut" 198
"band aid on the cut" 141
"bandage on the paper cut" 2
"band aid on the paper cut" 7
"bandage on the problem" 3,370
"band aid on the problem" 5,930
"bandage solution" 1,530
"band aid solution" 48,400
Looking at some of the examples, I'd have to say that some people don't 
agree with me that 'bandage on the problem' doesn't have the same meaning as 
'band aid on the problem.'

Adam Atkinson ha scritto:
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like hoover, or scotch (in italy is the Scotch-tape)...
i just need one simply word easy to remember, to link with the concept.
-- 
 >Giovanni

 i just need one simply word easy to remember, to link with the concept.
I think "band-aid" is your best bet. Anything else is likely to be UK-
specific, US-specific,
or make you sound like someone who's oddly afraid of trademark
lawyers.

 lawyers.
really can't i stick with "patch" or "plaster"? the second one begins 
with a p, sounds like plastic the plaster is made of... :-)
-- 
 >Giovanni

 with a p, sounds like plastic the plaster is made of... :-)
You can say that in the UK. I'm not sure it would be understood (to
mean
band-aid) in the US.

 with a p, sounds like plastic the plaster is made of... :-)
Se fosse in te, direi 'bandage' perché è un termine generico e tutti 
capirebbero.

 capirebbero.
Oops! Se io fossi in te... intendevo scrivere

 capirebbero.
"bandage" per me e' una cosa enorme bianca che mettono sulle ferite
abbastanza gravi in ospedale.

 abbastanza gravi in ospedale.
Li vendono negli Stati Uniti. Me sorprenderebbe che non li vendono anche 
in Inghilterra.
http://www.instawares.com/aso-corp-care-agpcbd2018.agpcbd2018.0.7.htm
http://www.veganstore.com/all-terrain-sheer-bandages/Page_1/056s.html
http://www.drugstore.com/qxp82191_333181_sespider/rite_aid/sheer_bandages_assorted.htm
http://www.cpr-savers.com/Industrials/ban3.html
http://www.atlanticmedsupply.com/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=152&cat=Adhesive+Bandages

 in Inghilterra.
magari bandage puo' anche voler dire "band-aid" ma secondo me e'
ambiguo.
se qualcuno mi dice che ha messo un bandage su una ferita la _prima_
cosa
che mi viene in mente e' una cosa abbastanza grave.

 in Inghilterra.
Per quello che vale, da Londra.
Ho sotto mano due confezioni di cerotti di due marche diverse: su una 
c'è scritto "plasters", sull'altra "strips".

 c'è scritto "plasters", sull'altra "strips".
se qualcuno dicesse "bandage" indicando un plaster secondo me
sarebbe capito. ma senza l'oggetto davanti, "bandage" fa pensare
ad interventi, ferite gravi ecc., almeno secondo me. piu' "benda"
che "cerotto"

 Why "patch"? I don't think anyone says that.
not sure.
and you can find than specific meaning in a dictionary
patch
I
n.
1 toppa f., pezza f., rattoppo m.: to put a patch on the elbow of a 
jacket mettere una toppa al gomito di una giacca.
2 (Med) (on a wound) cerotto m., cerotto m. adesivo.
3 (Med) (over an eye) benda f.
[..]
Sansoni ita-eng-ita
-- 
 >Giovanni

 capirebbero.
assomiglia troppo a bondage... :-)))
-- 
 >Giovanni

 abbastanza gravi in ospedale.
pure
-- 
 >Giovanni

 che "cerotto"
sě vabbč io sto al supermercato, cerco i cerotti, non riesco a trovarli, 
cosa chiedo ad un commesso (quando riesco a trovarne uno)?
-- 
 >Giovanni

 assomiglia troppo a bondage... :-)))
Forse per questa ragione nella farmacia si trove tutte quelle piccole 
scatole con la parola "bandage" e un foto delle piccole striscie di 
plastica vicino ai DVD per adulti.

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Uffa! Intendevo scrivere 'si trovano'...

 3 (Med) (over an eye) benda f.
eye-patch, yes. but not more generally, as far as I know. I really
don't think it's a good choice for general use.

 cosa chiedo ad un commesso (quando riesco a trovarne uno)?
band-aid! (sticking plaster)! te l'ho gia' detto!

 I'm not sure this is the first thing people would think of.
When I hear "patch" in a medical context, I think of the ones used to 
quit smoking.

 quit smoking.
I think there are some other patches that release... stuff. spammers
advertise
a "patch" which I assume is supposed to be like this. I don't think
it's a good
word for "cerotto" meaning band-aid/sticking plaster/small adhesive
bandage.