Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Morire

Hello iclingons!
As I told somewhere else, in the past few days I've been watching
(and enjoying) the videotaped episodes of "Northern Exposure"'s
first series.
Yesterday I came across an interesting series of synonims of
"to die", which I reproduce below:
"My father kicked the bucket when he was 104, my grandfather
(..) sheltered off when he was 106, my mother on the other hand
died whan she was 42, my grandmother passed on at the age of
44".
I was really unaware of this deadly variety, however:
1) "to kick the bucket" is mentioned in every dictionary; does
anybody know anything about its origin?
2) On the contrary, "to shelter off" is nowhere to be found (even if
I like it). Has anybody ever heard of it? Maybe I misunderstood
something....
byebye
Gennaro
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1) "to kick the bucket" is mentioned in every dictionary;
Kick the bucket is a common idiom, but I don't know what its origin is.  I have
never heard of "shelter off".   Pass on menaing "to die" is less frequently
used than "pass away"  and it  has another meaning that has nothing to do with
die.  By the way, I know  you wouldn't, but I'll say it anyway....don't get
pass away or pass on mixed up with *pass out*
bye
Ari

 anybody know anything about its origin?
QUOTE
bucket, n
    A beam or yoke on which anything may be hung or carried.
  1570 LEVINS Manip. 86 A Bucket, beame, tollo. 1597 SHAKES. 2 Hen. IV, III.
ii. 283 Swifter then hee that gibbets on the Brewers Bucket. Mod. Newspaper.
The beam on which a pig is suspended after he has been slaughtered is called
in Norfolk, even in the present day, a ‘bucket’. Since he is suspended by
his heels, the phrase to ‘kick the bucket’ came to signify to die.
    Hence (perhaps) to kick the bucket; (slang) to die.
  1785 GROSE Dict. Vulgar Tongue, To kick the bucket, to die. 1806 WOLCOTT
(P. Pindar) Tristia Wks. 1812 V. 242 Pitt has kicked the bucket. 1810
TANNAHILL Poems (1846) 57 Till time himsel' turn auld and kick the bucket.
1840 MARRYAT Poor Jack XXX, He drained it dry..and ‘kicked the bucket’. 1850
UNQUOTE
Source: Oxford English Dictionary, Second Edition, 1989
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Xakero

 Ari
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 Xakero
bye
Gennaro
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ps: for those interested in my quest for oxford dictionary's editions:
http://www.oed.com/public/publications/ordering.htm#printcd
http://www.oup.com/elt/global/catalogue/dictionaries/?view=it
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Another nice euphemism for "dead" is "pushing up the daisies".
Does anyone else (apart from Anna and Arianna, who go without saying)
remember Georgie Fame's "Bonnie & Clyde"?
"...pushing up daisies to welcome the sun and the morning dew" was
always one of my favourite bits.
Mary
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Buggery - boring. Incest - relatively boring. Necrophilia - dead boring.

 Teaching" series;
Ci sta anche il Concise Oxford Dictionary (COD).
"The best-known household dictionary [...] In fact,
an institution", per usare le parole del curatore.
http://www.oup.co.uk/isbn/0-19-860572-2
Matteo
P.S. Il curatore ha ragione, ovviamente. :)

 P.S. Il curatore ha ragione, ovviamente. :)
of course! :-)
ciao
Gennaro
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"Sappiate, fratel mio,
che qua ci sta un imbroglio
ma adesso dir nol voglio,
che' bene ancor nol so."
"Io non capisco affatto."

 significato di "concise",
Suppongo che sia "concise" rispetto alla ventina di volumi
dell'OED. Tutto è relativo, no? :) Ciao
Matteo

 Matteo
ciao :-)
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 Scherzo!!
Ah, burlone!
ciao
Matteo

 Another nice euphemism for "dead" is "pushing up the daisies".
This reminds me
        it's passed on.
This parrot is no more.
It has ceased to be.
It's expired and gone to meet its maker.
This is a late parrot.
It's a stiff.
Bereft of life, it rests in peace.
If you hadn't nailed it to the perch, it would be pushing up the
daisies.
It's rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible.
This is an ex-parrot.
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Morel
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Morel

 I guess you're referring to the 20-volume set of the OED.
I am, respectively to its online edition, to which I am priviledged to have
access.
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Xakero

 assenti nell'"Advanced Learner's"! Mah...
The way I see it, "Learner" is the operative word in Advanced Learner's
Dictionary". It is advanced with respect to the beginning learner's and the
intermediate learner's dictionaries.
The Concise Oxford Dictionary, I presume, as does TeoBal, is the abridged
version of the 20-volume Oxford English dictionary and probably intended for
users who have finished their scholastic learning.
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Xakero