Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: luncheonette and egg-cream

Mi fareste tradurre "luncheonette" con "tavola calda", tenendo conto 
che:
1) quello che si vede nelle inquadrature non mostra un ristorante 
propriamente detto (come noi lo intendiamo), né una trattoria, ma 
piuttosto una via di mezzo fra un odierno MacDonald e una paninoteca;
2) l'azione si svolge alla fine degli anni '60, quindi non posso usare 
un termine moderno;
3) quando i nostri vi arrivano il loro ospite offre loro un egg-cream, 
in piedi davanti a un banco che fa frullati, con un adesivo 7Up?
E a proposito, l'egg-cream (siamo a NYC) non ha corrispettivo in 
italiano, vero? Lo lascio cosě com'č, invariato anche nella 
traduzione?
Thanks
JMT 

 traduzione?
Non avevo mai sentito ne' "luncheonette" ne' egg-cream, ma
grazie a Google credo di sapere, adesso, cosa sono.


The "egg-cream" is common in New York City. A chocolate "egg-cream" is
a chocolate soda with milk added.
Joe from Massachusetts

 A luncheonette is not a "tavola calda". In a luncheonette, customers
sit
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 when they have finished eating.
http://www.answers.com/luncheonette
says
" A small restaurant that serves simple, easily prepared meals."
and translates it (not so accurately, perhaps...), to
Italiano (Italian)
"ristorante"
I like the Spanish translation best ;)
Español (Spanish)
n. - cafetería, snack bar
Actually, the English word "luncheonette" is used in Italy too, sometimes,
for similar kinds of joints as those in the States, I guess...
The "De Mauro" online dictionary has it, yet it defines it in English, not
in Italian, how weird for an Italian dictionary...
http://www.demauroparavia.it/64944
lun|che|o|net|te
s.m.inv.
ES ingl. quick lunch
-- 
Enrico C
...still legal tender...

a chocolate soda with milk added.
A chocolate soda?
cheers,
Peltio
Who almost died for a 'moka freeze' in SF. : )


A chocolate soda is a fountain drink made by squirting chocolate syrup
into a glass, then filling the rest of the glass with carbonated
water, or "seltzer", as they say in New York. For an egg-cream, you
add milk to the chocolate syrup.
Joe from Massachusetts

 ES ingl. quick lunch
...invece ho delle riserve, perché credo sia inteso proprio come 
"pasto veloce", non come "luogo in cui servono pasti veloci". Inoltre, 
al pari del brunch, il suo uso nella nostra lingua è troppo recente 
per adattarsi ad un dialogo di quegli anni.
Grazie, in ogni caso.
Ciao
JMT 

 Joe from Massachusetts
JMT from Alghero
Ciao 


I can only recall having had three flavors of egg-cream - vanilla,
chocolate, and strawberry. If I were to order an egg-cream, I would
ask for a (vanilla)(chocolate)(strawberry) egg-cream. An egg-cream is
not whipped, although it may be stirred, to make sure there is no
syrup stuck to the bottom of the glass.
"I got to try my first egg cream over the weekend."
"The server seemed surprised that someone had actually ordered one.
"Um— Vanilla or chocolate?" she asked. 'There are different flavors'?"
"It is a thin drink, served cold, without ice, with a straw. No egg is
involved. "
http://daryllang.com/oldjournals2003f.html
Joe from Massachusetts

 How about something vague, like "Ristorantino?".
That would be a fine, small, possibly expensive (sometimes not), possibly
for "the few who know", restaurant with regular table service.
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Joe from Massachusetts