Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Re: what about grumbling friendly onomatopoeic rumors during a conversation?

 Thanks a lots!
Unless you mean "Uh-huh" type of sounds and similar "Yes, I am listening 
and I don't entirely disagree with you" grunts, I've no idea what you mean.
Can you record a snippet or two and dump it on Youtube or similar?
Antonio

         gosh
None of these seem like onomatopoeia to me.

 why not?
Wouldn't onomatopoeia be "crash", "bang", "meow" and so on?

 it seems onomatopoeic things, don't you?
No. A word is onomatopoeic if its sound suggests its meaning. For 
instance ding-dong.
Kiuhnm


round objects.
(Who is Round, and to what does he object?)

 Is this a north american way of natural speaking, or what else?!
Dopo le dotte disquisizioni su onomatopeico, suoni, versi, rumori, qualcuno
potrebbe per favore rispondere?
:-)
Insomma, e' vero: i mezzibusti americani fanno un sacco di versi.
Perche'?
Ad un orecchio italiano ed europeo e' abbastanza curioso.
Per rendere piu' "popolare" e "accessibile" le notizie?
Instaurare un rapporto "amichevole" con lo spettatore?
E' poi cosi' comune questo intercalare nella vita normale?
grazie
Weiss
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 E' poi cosi' comune questo intercalare nella vita normale?
In italiano mi pare che sia usuale dire "mmmmmmm" o prolungare la fine
di una parola.
"Io penso cheeeeeeeee prendero' la pizza coi funghi."
In inglese e' piu' comune dire qualcosa tipo "um".

 what?
I think he's saying you might as well argue that "to walk" is an adjective.
"Squeak" is onomatopoeic because it sounds like an actual squeak.
The random grunts to which you refer are just that: grunts.
Antonio

 why not?
First hit in google:
http://home.cfl.rr.com/eghsap/apterms.html
Onomatopoeia. The use of words which in their pronunciation suggest their 
meaning.
"mmhhhh", "mmmmmhhhh-mmhh" are not words and so cannot be examples of 
onomatopoeia.
What phenomenon exactly are "wow", "super" and "gosh" supposed to sound 
like?
As an example, "sizzle" sounds like the sizzle of a sausage frying in a 
pan.
Antonio

 like?
Well I don't know, but I decided to emulate what I usually view on cnn/
cnbc because it seems a sort of US/English natural speaking, it's funny 
and I like it, and..... I think mmmmmhhhh it's useful because... mmhhh 
yah, you know, it gives to you much time to think what you are saying 
about... well, mmhhh Ya!, you know, mmmmmmmmhhhhhh-mmhhh sure, it runs 
well especially if you don't speak english so fluent as British and US 
people
O;-)
 
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 I think he's saying you might as well argue that "to walk" is an adjective.
No. It's  a reference to either "Yes, Minister" or "Yes, Prime
Minister".
One character learns that someone else writes the comment "shoe repair
operatives" (or similar:
it's a long time since I saw this) on documents when he thinks they're
nonsense. This
is a silly euphemism for "cobblers".  So our character writes "round
objects" (meaning "balls")
on a document he reads. Someone then asks him "Who is Round, and to
what does he object?"

 nonsense.
Further checking suggests that the comment is "CGSM", which means
"Consignment of Geriatric Shoe Makers", i.e. "Load of Old Cobblers".

 A questo punto sorge una domanda: che vordi? :-)
vordi' che babelfish e' quasi inutile

 Well I don't know, but I decided to emulate what I usually view
I'm not saying you shouldn't imitate this usage, I'm saying it's not an 
example of onomatopoeia.
As for imitating it, you should only use it sparingly. If you fill your 
Italian conversations with "Beeeehhhhhh" and "Eeeehhhhhh" and elongated 
final vowels, you'll sound just as strange.
In other words, you should not inject such utterances into your 
conversation deliberately, only when you are mid-sentence and have 
momentarily lost the plot :-)
Antonio

 Minister".
I realised what round objects meant (although I'd not remembered the 
reference).
I've somewhat lost track of the thread by now, but I was just trying  a 
different, albeit ultimately fruitless, tack. Perhaps the links will 
finally help. Hope springs eternal ...
Antonio.

 Really?? Is it "Round" a surname?
Almost anything _could_ be a surname.
Obviously in speech you'd never be confused between "round objects" and 
"Round objects".
Antonio

[...] Hope springs eternal ...
"La speranza è l'ultima a morire" ?

 "La speranza è l'ultima a morire" ?
Esatto.
Antonio

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Grazie.
:-) 

 fast British languages? 
L'inglese s...i... paaaaarrrrlllaaa molto piiaaannno.
Almeno, cosi` lo sento io.
Antonio