Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: sleeping with aspirin?

"Aspirin
 
Although it is not considered a sleeping pill and is not commonly accepted for treating insomnia, aspirin helps some people to get better sleep at night.
 
Aspirin seems to result in relatively normal night sleep in some people, where none of the sleeping stages are disturbed. It also has no hangover the following day.
 
There is about a four-hour delay in its effect, positively affecting sleep in the second half of the night. So, if waking up frequently in the middle of the night is your sleeping problem, try taking two Aspirin pills (650 mg) before bedtime instead of a sleeping pill.
Try and see if it works for you. "
 
in molti romanzi inglesi e americani si usa dare l'aspirina per dormire: addirittura ho letto il caso di una anziana signora, sequestrata in casa propria, che voleva metterne di nascosto nel cibo del suo rapitore, quindi si aspettava un effetto rapido e potente, e il romanzo si svolge nel 1980!
 
vi risulta? qui da noi, l'unico effetto collaterale dell'aspirina è la gastrite! :P


 
Anche qualche ulcera, AFAIK.
 

 Anche qualche ulcera, AFAIK.
 
se si esagera, certo! ;)

 vi risulta? qui da noi, l'unico effetto collaterale dell'aspirina ï¿½ la gastrite! :P
 
Per motivi personali (dolori vari alla cervicale e altre articolazioni 
sparse), prendo spesso un'aspirina effervescente dopo cena. Se sia lei a 
conciliare il sonno o la televisione non so, ma mi addormento spesso 
prima di andare a letto.
 
 
-- 
Audiente autem omni populo, dixit discipulis suis: ï¿½Attendite a scribis, 
qui volunt ambulare in stolis et amant salutationes in foro et primas 
cathedras in synagogis et primos discubitus in conviviisï¿½.(Lc, 20,45-46)

 prima di andare a letto.
 
Considerato quel che passa in tivï¿½, propenderei per la seconda 
spiegazione! :)
 

 prima di andare a letto.
 
 
beh, certo: se hai dei dolori che non ti lasciano dormire l'aspirina può aiutarti: ma qui si parla di un bambino spaventato e di un teppista da mettere KO con l'aspirina nella minestra! :P

 spiegazione! :)
 
veramente a me capita l'opposto: se in tv c'è qualcosa di scadente o noioso vengo assalita dalla rabbia (soprattutto pensando al canone che pago :P) e il sonno se me va! ;)

 qui a chiedere agli anglofoni! :P
 
This isn't any remedy currently in popular use by anyone I know, nor have I 
heard of it.
 
HOWEVER, as I frequently awaken at 3 AM, give or take 15 minutes, I'm willing 
to try this to see if it helps. My suspicion is that a placebo effect will 
prove it useful for one or possibly two nights, after which it will fail.
 
I'll report back in a few days.
 
-- 
Joey from New York
Among those whom I like or admire, I can findï¿œno common denominator,
but among thoseï¿œwhom I love, I can: all of them make me laugh.
ï¿œ ï¿œ-- WH Auden
 


When you wake up at 3 AM, make yourself a nice sandwich with mortadella. 
Unless you're vegetarian, that'll help
more  than any sleeping pills :)
 

 un altro caso, sempre intorno agli anni '80/'90, ambientato in america, � quello di una mamma che da' una mezza aspirina sciolta nella marmellata al bambino che ha visto qualcosa che lo ha spaventato...
 
Direi che non esiste anche negli Stati Uniti, ma la ricerca di Google 
resulta in una risposta diversa. Allora, si pu� dire che esiste ma il 
concetto non � accettato.
 
Anche se si cerca "prendere l'aspirina per dormire" (in italiano, senza 
virgolette) la risulta � 541,000 risposte.

 dell'aspirina � la gastrite! :P
 
 
Boh.
 
Ho sentito dire che in USA l'aspirina la vendono a libbre, a
secchi, a vagonate...
 
 
-- 
I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.
    -- Oscar Wilde
 

 I'll report back in a few days.
 
 
Take care of your health, aspirinï¿œ in empty stomach is really
dangerous.
 
 
-- 
In a hotel in Athens:
"Visitors are expected to complain at the office between the
hours of 9 and 11 a.m. daily."
 

 italiano, senza virgolette) la risulta � 541,000 risposte.
 
 
Si prende solo quando si ha la febbre, non in generale.
 
 
Io prendo paracetamolo, a dire il vero. 
Pare che sia meno gastro-lesivo.
 
 
-- 
"Parsifal - the kind of opera that starts at six o'clock and
after it has been going three hours, you look at your watch and
it says 6:20."
                -- David Randolph
 

 I'll report back in a few days.
 
thank you, Joe! ;)

 more  than any sleeping pills :)
 
LOL! ;)

 secchi, a vagonate...
 
loro SI' che sanno come fare!
se hai bisogno di un sonnifero te ne prescrivono (e il farmacista ti prepara) tre pillole, in modo da evitare di buttar via quello che ti serve o di prenderlo a caso "tanto ce l'ho in casa"; in compenso medicinali come questi, che servono a tutta la famiglia e scadono come minimo dopo 5 anni, te li fanno in confezioni da 100, altro che i nostri blisterini da 20, che ti fanno correre in farmacia ogni momento e fanno sprecare una montagna di  confezioni vuote! :)

 Pare che sia meno gastro-lesivo.
 
braverrimo! ;)

 I'll report back in a few days.
 
no news from  NY...
 
maybe joey is still sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeping? :P

On Jul 28, 2013, 
salmo...@gmail.com
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Alas, no. (Thanks for jolting me back to reality.) In fact, not only am I not 
sleeping I'm quite "stonato" (or 'stunat' as people around here say) from not 
sleeping well at all, aspirin or no aspirin.
 
The first night I tried it, I managed to sleep past 3, but only until 4:30.
I awoke at 3 AM the last two nights regardless of having taken two aspirin.
 
Back to two Martinis instead of two aspirin. :)
 
-- 
Joey from New York
Among those whom I like or admire, I can find no common denominator,
but among those whom I love, I can: all of them make me laugh.
   -- WH Auden
 

 Back to two Martinis instead of two aspirin. :)
 
I have them during my dinner, as a preventive treatment! :P

 I have them during my dinner, as a preventive treatment! :P
 
That's a great idea. I'll have two at dinner as well.  :\
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 That's a great idea. I'll have two at dinner as well.  :\
 
What about a whisk(e)y on the rocks?
 
 
-- 
Audiente autem omni populo, dixit discipulis suis: “Attendite a scribis, 
qui volunt ambulare in stolis et amant salutationes in foro et primas 
cathedras in synagogis et primos discubitus in conviviis”.(Lc, 20,45-46)

 
 
I could have a couple of bourbons on the rocks. I often do. But not paired 
with Martinis. Mixing dark and light alcohol can be tricky.
 
Although, what's that saying:
Dark to light, you'll be up all night
Light to dark, a walk in the park.
 
Then there's beer... 
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 Then there's beer...
 
I don't intend this to be snarky. And giving advice to a stranger is 
often met with the well-deserved response to mind one's own business. 
But, not getting enough sleep is a serious problem that will affect your 
health. You might try a regimen of physical exertion during the day to 
make yourself tired enough to sleep deeply at night. It works for some, 
including most children. But, then again, it didn't work for Michael 
Jackson. He should have stopped at aspirins.
 

 I have them during my dinner, as a preventive treatment! :P
 
 
"One martini is all right. Two are too many, and three are not
enough."
                -- James Thurber 
 
 
-- 
Home life as we understand it is no more natural to us than a
cage is to a cockatoo.
    -- George Bernard Shaw
 

 That's a great idea. I'll have two at dinner as well.  :\
 
blended or stirred? (J. Bond) :D

 blended or stirred? (J. Bond) :D
 
Stirred, always stirred. With a glass rod, even; no metal.
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 make yourself tired enough to sleep deeply at night.
 
Hey, Tony. I think I appreciate your intentions, although I don't know why 
you framed it in the guise of snark.
 
Rather than telling you to mind your own business, I'll just say that you 
don't know anything about my present health situation to begin with, or my 
physical abilities or shortcomings.
 
Over the past 10 years, two cancers, two surgeries, nine weeks of daily 
radiation therapy - daily for nine weeks - and two years of hormone therapy 
have done their best to do me in.
 
I'm not complaining: for nearly the first 60 years I was hale and fit. And 
happy. I'm still happy, though neither hale nor fit.
 
I'd be happier to walk around the block without pain.
 
I hope that doesn't sound snarky; it's not meant to be.
 
And now we move on...
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sleeping I'm quite "stonato" 
 
This in Italian means "tone deaf".
 
 
-- 
Ci sono 10 tipi di persone al mondo: quelle che capiscono il sistema binario
e quelle che non lo capiscono.

 And now we move on...
 
Yes, it's not very practical to get exercise when you're in pain. I hope 
things get better.
 
 

 This in Italian means "tone deaf".
 
It may also means «groggy». It's not even a recent use of the term: I am 
right now re-reading DeLillo's «Underworld» and one character, an 
elderly Italian-American, claims he feels 'stunat' because of the weather.
 

 This in Italian means "tone deaf".
 
I recognized it as Sicilian dialect. I heard the word often in the New 
York metropolitan area. Although I remember it pronounced 'stunad' and 
it was translated as 'dumb' in the colloquial sense, or foolish.
 
 
 

it was translated as 'dumb' in the colloquial sense, or foolish.
 
Or, perhaps, some other southern dialect.
The best translations in Italian of "groggy" are "intontito" or
"stordito".
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Come to think of it, I heard it more on my mother's side of the family, 
so it might be some variant of Neapolitan dialect. The various Italian 
dialects were mixed in the New World, and Italian immigrants developed 
their own slang expressions.
 

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Non so se sia comune anche in Siclia, ma qui a Napoli "stunat" č un 
termine molto usato, soprattutto dalle persone piů attempate.

Il 29/07/2013 17:07, Tony the Ice Man ha scritto:
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Il 29/07/2013 17:07, Tony the Ice Man ha scritto:
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Non so se sia comune anche in Siclia, ma qui a Napoli "stunat" � un 
termine molto usato, soprattutto dalle persone pi� attempate.

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Allora, che vuole dire a Napoli? Tone deaf, stupid, foolish, dumb, 
off-key, confused, dazed, groggy, or something else?

 premature baby, too! :(
 
That is a task I couldn't have undertaken, as a male, if I wanted to. :/
I wish you good, better, best health.
 
-- 
Joey from New York
Among those whom I like or admire, I can findï¿œno common denominator,
but among thoseï¿œwhom I love, I can: all of them make me laugh.
ï¿œ ï¿œ-- WH Auden
 

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A Napoli in genere significa in genere groggy, confused, dazed. Pi� 
raramente dumb. Ovviamente se si parla di musica significa off-key.
 
Per esempio, quando ho scritto l'altro messaggio qualche giorno fa, l'ho 
inserito qui sul newsgroup 3 volte. Dovevo essere proprio stunat!

 inserito qui sul newsgroup 3 volte. Dovevo essere proprio stunat!
 
E anche oggi sono "miez stunat" perché ho scritto "in genere" due volte.

 I wish you good, better, best health.
 
thank you!

 why not "bologna"? I always hear "bologna" in english, so that italian translators weren't able to translate it as "mortadella"... :P
 
That's what they eat in the US, but it's not even remotely the same 
thing. :)
 
-- 
Enrico il Pentolaio.

 thing. :)
 
something like this one?
 
http://bologna.repubblica.it/images/2011/10/24/163949707-ae8e1fcd-bf74-4667-aed0-7c84c7c04977.jpg
 
 
ho letto di recente un racconto di cornell woolrich ambientato  intorno agli anni '50 in cui la vittima veniva avvelenata da un panino con la bologna (tradotto così) preso da un *distributore automatico* !
 
pensare che, quando ho visto quello che hanno messo al liceo negli anni '70, mi sembrava straordinario! :P

 thing. :)
 
In Bologna, AFAIK, they use both bovine and ass meat (I mean, donkey 
meat) to make it. What kind of beast do you put in your mortadellas?
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