Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Teaspoonfuls

Amici cari,
sono alle prese con magiche pozioni d'erbe. Nelle ricette trovo spesso
"level teaspoonful" e "rounded teaspoonful". Credevo stessero entrambi per
"cucchiaino raso", ma dev'esserci una differenza, visto che mi sono appena
imbattuta in questa frase:
Never use more than one small level teaspoonful of garlic or one rounded
teaspoonful of the other herbs.
Che ne dite?
Grazie
Anna

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Dear Anna,
A teaspoon can be an 'official' measuring unit (especially in cooking though
I recall Raymot, some long while back mentioning its use in medicine as
a not particularly accurate measuring unit) and when used as such, the
amount to be placed within the receptacle, should be levelled off to obtain
the exact measurement.
When 'teaspoonful' is not referring to the actual measuring unit, any spoon,
generally used for tea or coffee can be used and the specification to make
it either full  to the capacity which the spoon will allow (heaped
therefore), or levelled off is to imply a limit to the amount required in
the latter case.
Since the teaspoon in question in these instances is not an exact size to
begin with, it isn't a matter of 'must' and since in your case you're
dealing with garlic, it is assumed not too much ...
Hoping this is of help at least in understanding the difference, though not,
obviously in arriving at the Italian equivalent,
I remain, as always,
Bambi
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 the latter case.
Dearest Bambi,
Thank you, everything's very clear here in my little hard head... except one
thing: is there any difference between a *level* and a *rounded*
teaspoonful?
Wondering (and scratching the top of my head in a StanLaurelish way)
Anna

 Anna
Credo che Bambi intendesse implicitamente dire che  'heaped' e 'rounded'
sono sinonimi. Credo.
Ho dato un'occhiata in giro, e anche se nessuno si sogna di dire apertis
verbis cos'è un 'rounded teaspoonful', il termine viene usualmente impiegato
per indicare una quantità di 'dough', e ritengo che sia decisamente
difficile fare un cucchiaino raso di pasta da lievitare.
Un cucchiaino colmo, dunque.
BTW, il teaspoonful come unità di misura vale fra i 4,9 e i 5 ml.
Ciao
Giorgio

 Un cucchiaino colmo, dunque.
Normalmente pero` - scusa la capatostaggine - per il cucchiaino colmo trovo
"heaped", come diceva anche Bambi. Mentre per "rounded" il vocabolario mi
da` tra l'altro "smussato". Si potrebbe trattare quindi, in entrambi i casi
(level e rounded), di cucchiaino raso. Dico male?
Ciao
Anna

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Sì :-))
E' insolito, perché normalmente si dice "heaped", ma anche "rounded"
significa colmo.
Mary
-- 
A spoonful of honey will catch more flies than a gallon of vinegar.

 significa colmo.
Be', io vorrei tanto fidarmi, ma prima... come me la spiegate, questa?
"... simply increase the amount taken ten times, and put in one heaped,
rather than one rounded, teaspoonful of herb per cup."
???
Ciao
Anna

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: > Un cucchiaino colmo, dunque.
:
: Normalmente pero` - scusa la capatostaggine - per il cucchiaino colmo
trovo
: "heaped", come diceva anche Bambi. Mentre per "rounded" il vocabolario mi
: da` tra l'altro "smussato". Si potrebbe trattare quindi, in entrambi i
casi
: (level e rounded), di cucchiaino raso. Dico male?
:
: Ciao
: Anna
:
:

 sono sinonimi. Credo.
Dear Giorgio,
You would be right in your belief.
The 'levelled' measurement is when you scrape off the excess from the top of
the spoon so that there is none heaped above its circumference.
When the spoon is heaped, it is also referred to as rounded. All most
inexact and
most un-scientific, but definitely challenging. I hope Anna finds it so as
well.
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 so as well.
Dear Bambi, 
Does this mean you would make my coffee too sweet?
Regards,
Loki
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or one rounded teaspoonful of the other herbs.
Like a gentle collina, a gentle arc above the sides of the spoon. A bit
more than a level teaspoonful
whereas 'heaped' means as much as you can pile on the spoon, a mountain.
;-)
Hope that helps.
loki
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 rather than one rounded, teaspoonful of herb per cup."
Questo tuo libro e` proprio incredibile!
In sostanza rounded significa colmo e non raso, mentre heaped significa
tutto quello che riesci a prendere con quel benedetto cucchiaino, di piu` di
rounded quindi.
Non ho idea di cosa stai preparando, ma non lo assaggerei :)
ciao, Janis

 whereas 'heaped' means as much as you can pile on the spoon, a mountain.
OK, tutto chiaro at last. Raso, colmo e... ben colmo? Ricolmo? Stracolmo?
Traboccante? Strabocchevole? Zeppo? Calcato? Carico? Be', questo sarà un
problema mio...
Grazie a Loki in primis, e a tutti, e heaped spoonfuls of sugar galore,
Anna

 Does this mean you would make my coffee too sweet?
Dear Loki,
Alas, I fear it probably would. As it is, the undersigned takes 4 heaped
teaspoons of sugar in one tiny Italian coffee cup. However,  I
can be taught new tricks and if given proper instructions, trust I would be
able to place the required amount of sugar in your cup to your total
satisfaction.
Does this mean you will be joining us at our next raduno?
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I remain, as always, ecc., ecc.,
Bambi
dtb

 Does this mean you will be joining us at our next raduno?
Dear Bambi,
 I regret that  I am unable to gather the necessary coin of the realm to
purchase an air ticket this year. I will just have to drink my little
cup of coffee (with two 'levelish' teaspoons of sugar) alone, with my
zanzibar for company, to mark the occasion.
Perhaps another year will see me grace Italy's fair shores once again.
regards,
Loki
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 Perhaps another year will see me grace Italy's fair shores once again.
Dear Loki,
One can but hope that it shall be so.
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I remain, as always,
Bambi
dtb