Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: that's a load off

In un film con Jack Nicolson ( As good as it gets ) quando gli comunicano 
che il cane del vicino di casa è stato ritrovato lui esclama ( 
sarcasticamente perchè in realta odia il cane ): "That's a load off". Si può 
rendere in italiano con "che sollievo" ?.
Grazie
bigbox 

 rendere in italiano con "che sollievo" ?.
S�. � un modo di dire "that is a load off of my mind" che significa non 
si deve preoccuparsi perch� il problema � risolto.

 si deve preoccuparsi perch� il problema � risolto.
"....non si deve preoccupare/non deve preoccuparsi" ;-)

 "....non si deve preoccupare/non deve preoccuparsi" ;-)
OK, ha senso, grazie. C'è anche questa espressione in italiano di 
togliere il carico dalla mente?

Tony The Ice Man ha scritto:
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In linguaggio colloquiale direi semplicemente "Mi sono tolto un peso". 
Oppure potresti dire "ho un pensiero in meno in testa". "Togliere il 
carico dalla mente" è perfettamente corretto e comprensibile, ma non 
l'ho mai sentito.

 Oppure potresti dire "ho un pensiero in meno in testa".
Sicuro?
Mai sentito. Sentito senza specificare dove. (Ci sono persone che hanno 
pensieri altrove?)
ciao, Janis 

Janis ha scritto:
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Hai ragione, avrei dovuto controllare che si trattava di un uso 
esclusivamente regionale. E' un problema che mi capita spesso quando si 
tratta di trovare delle frasi in italiano colloquiale.
Comunque nel dubbio ho controllato anche la prima risposta (Mi sono 
tolto un peso) e, per chiarezza verso Tony, posso confermare che ï¿œ usata 
in tutta Italia.

 ha scritto nel 
messaggio news:ho85c9$1hm$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
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Perch� non semplicemente "off my mind", invece di "off of"? 

 
It could be simply "off my mind," and in my mind, there is seldom a call for 
the expression "off of" when just "off" will do.
-- 
Joe/Joey in New York

 Perché non semplicemente "off my mind", invece di "off of"?
E perché non sempicemente "that's", invece di "that is"? Per quanto 
riguardo la tua domanda, si può dire l'uno o l'altro. "That is a load 
off of my mind" è l'espressione completa, ma di solito la gente dice 
"That's a load off my mind" o più spesso sempicemente "that's a load 
off" (e anche più spesso "that's a relief").

 off of my mind" è l'espressione completa
I beg to differ, Tony. "Off of" is proscribed in more than one reference 
grammar, Gregg's Reference Manual being one that comes to mind.
A simple "off" is all that's needed, despite a fairly common (mis-)usage that 
includes "of."
Further, there are numerous confirmations of this on line.
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This is a stylistic issue, not an issue of grammar. So, we can continue 
to differ harmoniously.
I agree with this poster on 
wordreference.com
:
"In English, we can say "Take me off of your mailing list" or "take me 
off your mailing list". Both constructions are correct and convey the 
same meaning. The preposition 'of' in this case is optional, whether to 
include or to omit it."
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=944145

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Of course we can differ harmoniously. In my mind it's more than a stylistic 
issue though, but even given that it were only stylistic, it sounds 
unnecessarily disharmonious to my ear. There's no reason for "of" to be 
there, as it serves no purpose.
(With apologies to Mick Jagger, although he pronounced it more like "get offa 
my cloud.")
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Don't hang around or I'll move the cloud. ;)

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Touche'! I guess I better get off of it, :-)
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 Touche'! I guess I better get off of it, :-)
The cloud ain't going nowhere. That was just a little bluster.
Just for the record, I have no qualms about people having differences 
about English language usage. Our experiences are different and it seems 
a natural thing to me. I have friends and colleagues in publishing and 
it is not uncommon for me to experience or observe heated discussions 
with and among them that often result in ambiguous conclusions. This 
includes people who are professional editors and develop and follow 
style sheets for their particular company or industry that become like 
inalienable declarations of language rights and wrongs. My only hope is 
that a person defends a position based on a sincere perspective and not 
as a rationalization to defend an ego, and perpetuate misinformation.
Having said that, I should restate that although I don't consider "off 
of" as a misuse, in the least, I would most often just say "off". I 
might use "of" for emphasis in some situations. (Will you please take 
that damned birthday hat off of my head? I never asked you for a party 
style make-over!)

 Touche'! I guess I better get off of it, :-)
How would you translate "nuvola fantozziana", that kind of cloud
which compares only during week-ends to wash the unlucky
employee?
-- 
"I hate women because they always know where things are."
                -- James Thurber

 employee?
That's a black cloud. One says that "he has a black cloud hanging over 
him," or "a black cloud follows him around."
A proposito, penso che tu intendessi dire "which appears" e "to drench." 
Il verbo "to compare" vuole dire comparare e "to wash" significa lavare. 
"To appear" vuole dire comparire e "to drench" significa inzuppare.

 employee?
That's a black cloud. One says that "he has a black cloud hanging over 
him," or "a black cloud follows him wherever he goes."
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 style make-over!)
We are in complete agreement.
(And now that no one else is looking, I will admit to you that I have been 
heard to say "off of.")
In the technical realm that I frequent, I read people's inquiries that often 
begin with: "I have a report based off of a query that..." and it rankles. 
NO! Your report is based ON a query... and not only that, it shouldn't be 
"off of" either! That's probably where my dislike for it comes.
And now I'm going to get off of this topic.
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Tony The Ice Man, 03:01, luned� 29 marzo 2010:
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Right.
I felt something was wrong.
-- 
Wagner's music is better than it sounds.
    -- Mark Twain