Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Volere e/è potere? :-)

Ci deve essere una soluzione. (come tradurre quel "ci deve essere"?)
There must be a solution. 
Suonano?
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Isa
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Love like you've never been hurt,
And dance like no one's watching
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Grazie,
de nada
Arianna

 I can't but go to the cinema
I CAN BUT GO TO THE CINEMA!

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Is uppercase intended to emphasize that Isabella's suggestion would
definitely not be correct?
I'm pretty sure that "I cannot but go" (which I would consider equivalent
to "I cannot help but go") _does_ in fact have a meaning that sounds quite
close to that of the original Italian sentence, though I am not clear
whether your suggestion may or may not be more appropriate.
Could anyone, please, shed some light on this?
Thanks.
Max

 Could anyone, please, shed some light on this?
Yes, he's wrong. Izabella and you are both right. :-))) 
cheers,
Loki
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 Could anyone, please, shed some light on this?
Yes, he's wrong. Izabella and you are both right. :-))) 
cheers,
Loki
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 I CAN BUT GO TO THE CINEMA!
Nope, wrong for the italian used. 
I can't help but correct your incorrect correction. 
"Intsead of using 'but' in a sentence like 'I cannot help but award you
the [booby] prize', it is much simpler to replace it with the '-ing'
form of the verb: I cannot help awarding...." [How to write & speak
better p.40]
This leaves it open to whether one should use 'help' in this context.
To continue the quote:
 "'But' may substitute for 'only' in positive statements: 'There were
(not 'weren't) but ten people present'. However, this construction is
awkward at times -for example the sentence 'I can but agree with you'
would be much better expressed as 'I can only agree with you'." (ibid.)
I _do_ so like my books. 
Loki
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 Yes, he's wrong. Izabella and you are both right. :-)))
Congratulations for your 'fair play'. Burp.

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 Congratulations for your 'fair play'. Burp.
E invece dire "scusate, mi sono sbagliato"? No, eh?
In questo newsgroup si parla di lingua inglese. Chi la conosce si sente
giustamente in dovere di correggere, a beneficio di chi la conosce meno,
errori come il tuo. Tanto più se urlati.
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Anna

 giustamente in dovere di correggere, a beneficio di chi la conosce meno,
E' vero, mi aspettavo delle scuse (nel mio stesso errore è caduto anche il
Grande Dizionario Sansoni). E poi io non urlo, sorrido. Siete voi i musoni.
I'd like to hold your ham. Bye.

would be much better expressed as 'I can only agree with you'." (ibid.)
Ciao.
Non ho capito una cosa....
la frase "I can but ask this question" e' scorretta o 'suona solo
male' (o forse ha un significato leggermente diverso da "I can't but
..")? 
Nel mio caso comunque dovrebbe essere piu' adatta "I can't help asking
this question", visto che nessuno mi ha obbligata a farla, ma la
faccio lo stesso :)
Grazie,		beatrice.
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whether your suggestion may or may not be more appropriate.
The way I see it, <<I can't but go>> (with a negative verb) means I
have no other choice than going, whereas <<I can but go>> means "I'm
*this* close to going". Same difference as between "all but" and
"nothing but", right?
Cheers, 
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 Io posso non andare al cinema?
Eh, no! Ci vai punto e basta.

Io posso non andare al cinema?
Can I / may I not go to the cinema? (Cosi' com'e' non si sa se chiedi
il permesso di non andare, o semplicemente investighi la possibilita'
di non andare...)
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