Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Laura Norder

QUOTE David Crystal, The English Language, Penguin
 'intrusive r' by speakers if Received Pronunciation: the insertion of
an /r/ between vowels, when there is no r in the spelling. The most
well-known instance, because if its frequency in the news, is law and
order - widely known as 'Laura Norder'.
[...]
Unless Received Pronunciation speakers are taking extreme care, and
speaking very self consciously, they automatically put an /r/ into
such phrases as "Africa(r) and Asia, an area(r) of disagreement", and
"Drama(r) and music."
I have a tape recording of a critic vociferously condemning the
intrusive r in law and order, in the course of which he said 'the idea
of an intrusive r is obnoxious', putting in an /r/ at the end of
'idea'!
UNQUOTE
:))
-- 
"Hang loose, haoles!"

 "Drama(r) and music."
Provando a leggere la frase con le r viene fuori un suono pių
impastato che a me italiano sembra pių "inglese".
Sbaglio? 

 Sbaglio?
Però gli americani non usano l'intrusive "r", no?
Ciao, FB

 Però gli americani non usano l'intrusive "r", no?
Inglese britannico ==> /lO: (r)&nd 'o:d&*/
Inglese americano ==> /lO: &n(d) 'ord&r/ ("law" più aperto)
Dovrebbero sembrare entrambi sufficientemente "inglesi", no (senza
l'intrusive "r", dico)? Sempre che io abbia ragione nel dire che l'intrusive
"r" non si usa in American English *.
* e ci mancherebbe altro... Già si pronunciano *tutte* le "r", figuriamoci
se si inventassero pure quelle che non ci sono.
Ciao, FB

: )

 : )
Uh?
Bye, FB

 Uh?
('Twas but a smile in agreement)
Looking for the prize for the least contributory contribution to the NG.
And the winner is...

Laura Norder - a bit like:
(from an old car racing game...)
Peter Out
Hugh Jengine
or
(real person)
Chris Massy
or
(dodgy adult entertainment industry-type name)
Ben Dover
and in Italy...
Guido la Vespa
and I'm sure the character in Cinema Paradiso has a suspect name...
Salvatore di Vita
hmm...

not to mention...
Justin Time

 Però gli americani non usano l'intrusive "r", no?
Secondo "The Columbia Guide to Standard American English", che trovi 
su Bartleby.com, 
" In Eastern New England, Metropolitan New York City, and Southern 
regional dialects, the intrusive r can be heard at the ends of open 
syllables before vowels, as in John F. Kennedy’s KYOO-buhr (for Cuba) 
and in the phrase law and order (pronounced LOR uhn AW-duh). "

 Guido la Vespa
Me too  :)
-- 
Enrico C
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 syllables before vowels,
E anche, a quanto leggo, nel Boston English...
" Some New England dialects also have "intrusive r", which is the
converse of the r-dropping pattern. Many speakers of these dialects
retain a word-final r if it is followed by a word that begins with a
vowel. Some of them also add an r between a word that ends with a
vowel and another that begins with one. "
http://www.ic.arizona.edu/~lsp/Northeast/BostonEnglish/bosphon.html

> 
http://www.ic.arizona.edu/~lsp/Northeast/BostonEnglish/bosphon.html
E l'intero sito è interessante, sulle varietà di inglese :)
http://www.ic.arizona.edu/~lsp/index.html

 Me too  :)
Justin Thyme is a better just in time... Okay, try this:
Question:
What do you call a woman balancing two pints of beer on her head and with a
snooker cue in her hand?
Clue:
An English author of children's stories involving a fluffy animal.
Answer:

 Answer:
Alec Reid ?
-- 
Maria Luisa C - 08/03/04 18.58.07, here.
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 and in the phrase law and order (pronounced LOR uhn AW-duh). "
Ma a Brooklyn c`č la 'r' ricalcitrante.
A. Whea's da fawks?
B. In da draw.
A. It ain't in heah.
B. Fahgeddabowdit. Use a spoon.

 ??
'peter out' is idiom for something to slowly finish as in a motor to
run out of fuel. The engine 'petered out' and drifted to a stop. From
'peter' = to diminish slowly.
-- 
              O      __
      ___   /\     / / O  
     /__ \   | \   /  |
    O  /  \ /   \./   |       Loki
        |________ |
 

 Alec Reid ?
Not quite!
The first part is a woman's name (naturally) described by *balancing two
pints of beer on her head* and her surname is described by *a snooker cue in
her hand* ... and the answers is?
2nd clue:
She famously lived in the Lake District.

What is otherwise quite a nice song by Blink 182 is ruined by a dropped
h and a loudly intrusive y:
"Don't waste your time on me 
you're already the voice inside my yed"
-- 
Mary

 She famously lived in the Lake District.
Doesn't look as though anyone's going to guess it; I can't take part,
because I already knew it.
-- 
Maru

 She famously lived in the Lake District.
I give up!
Anyone else with the answer?
-- 
Maria Luisa C - 10/03/04 10.20.10, here.
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because I already knew it.
Is she alive? I thought about Beatrix Potter, but I don't think she's
the one. :)
Sebastiano
-- 
No wonder people say "gesundheit" when you say "Tchaikovsky".

 the one. :)
You got it!
-- 
Mary

 the one. :)
:) That's it!
BEER TRICKS - POTTER (because you pot the balls in snooker...)
She was born 1866 (?) and died towards the end of the Second World War.
The fluffy animal in question is Peter Rabbit (probably the best known
character).

And what do you call a man with a spade in his head?
My sincere apologies for this dire line of jokes, but the ultimate blame
must surely lie at the door of the thread originator!
:)
Zz

 POTTER (because you pot the balls in snooker...)
I would never have guessed it in a *billiard* years ;)
-- 
http://wiki.news.nic.it/DizionariItCulturaLinguisticaInglese

 I would never have guessed it in a *billiard* years ;)
With a sense of humour like that, you should be sent to the back of the cue.

Zz | it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
in <news:uLC3c.3777$54.1343@newsfe1-win>
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I could hold the two pints of beer  and get myself off the snook'  ;)
-- 
http://wiki.news.nic.it/DizionariItCulturaLinguisticaInglese

 What is otherwise quite a nice song by Blink 182
"That throws a whole new and interesting light onto your character."
(citazione)
Pare siano tutti e tre di San Diego, ma a me sembra particolare l'accento
del chitarrista (diciamo il tizio che canta il 70% della canzone). Arianna,
tu che sei di quelle parti, secondo te costui ha un tipico accento di San
Diego *?
* non che io conosca il "tipico accento di San Diego"...
Ciao, FB

BEER TRICKS - POTTER (because you pot the balls in snooker...)
Oh, now I got it. I understood the name joke, but the hidden meaning
of the surname was a mystery to me. :)
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You got it!
Pure luck, I'd say. :)
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And what do you call a man with a spade in his head?
Dead? Weirdo? Psycho? ;)
Mmmm, let me think about it. Here we have a man, who thinks that his
own head is a garden, and he wants to spade it.
Spiderman! Spademan!
^_^
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 Spiderman! Spademan!
Hah ha. Very good.
Answer:     Doug
(name pronounced same as dug...)
Zz
And what do you the same man without a spade in his head?