Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: For american people...

Hi guys...
Our dear president, Silvio Berlusconi, said that Obama is 
handsome...tall...and "sun-tanned".
Yes...tanned...exactly.
What do you think of this word,of this expression?
I better not tell my opinion about it...because this is not a politic-NG.
But what do YOU think of this "joke"?
p.s: joke per modo di dire. 

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How dare you call Berlusconi a joke!
Joe from Massachusetts

 handsome...tall...and "sun-tanned".
He said
young, handsome and tanned
Kiuhnm

 young, handsome and tanned
L'agenzia ha riportato "suntanned" come traduzione.
E "suntanned" è ripreso da diversi quotidiani online.
http://www.google.it/search?q=berlusconi+suntanned&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Uno a caso:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5100973.ece#comments-form
saluti,
Peltio

 Peltio
Peltio,
he said tan and tall and young.....he was talking about the girl from
Ipanema!
gfc

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I think too much fuss is being made about it.
It was just a poor (attempt of a) joke.
I kind of like mean quips -- if they're also funny, but IMO this isn't a 
matter of being inappropriate, it is just humourless
ciao, Janis 

 matter of being inappropriate, it is just humourless
Berlusconi is constantly inappropriate.

 But what do YOU think of this "joke"?
Americans have suffered eight years of being told that down is up, good is
bad, no is yes, and hatred is patriotism. We had a candidate for president
who sung a twisted-word version of an innocent song, "Barbara Ann", into an
invection against sobriety in foreign affairs. I think that Berlusconi's
'battuta' just shows that he shares that narrow-minded, self-centered,
inability to understand the reality of the human condition and the life 
experience of anyone outside of the limiting confines of his skull cavity.


provo a tradurre una battuta pubblicata sul forum televisioni del
corriere della sera
Obama says to an Italian Forza Italia supporter
"you Italian are very lucky, because you live as though you were in a
tale"
"why" the Italian asks
"A dwarf rule your country,  of course I was only jocking"
masgar

Berlusconi said these words because he is an artist.
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=_n3clDkRa4A
Do u agree with me?
Alberto
www.fofola.com
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Very well said, Tony. Couldn't agree more.

 But what do YOU think of this "joke"?
Ma a parte le considerazioni personali, vorrei chiedere agli amici americani
del ng:
che rilevanza č stata data dai media negli USA a questa notizia?
A me pare che la cosa sia passata molto in secondo piano.E' cosě?

 L'agenzia ha riportato "suntanned" come traduzione.
They're almost synonyms.
But "young" and "tall" aren't!
Kiuhnm

 A me pare che la cosa sia passata molto in secondo piano.E' cosě?
MSNBC: Bronze Award for the Worst Person in the World
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=2Eo5p8-dcLY
Also, Jon Stewart of The Daily Show did a purposely offensive satirical
fake news presentation about it, peppered with stereotypes of Italians.

 
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=_n3clDkRa4A
un se po' ascolta'
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
-- 
There are two kinds of Italians, those who work for Berlusconi and those 
who are about to.

 I better not tell my opinion about it...because this is not a politic-NG.
I'm sick and tired of this so-called "politically correct" language.
IMHO, the world will be really free from racism when everyone will be 
able to state the obvious (i.e. that one person is black) without being 
accused of being racist.
Kiuhnm

 fake news presentation about it, peppered with stereotypes of Italians.
For those who want to see this, the presentation is only 24 seconds long, 
from 8:36 to 9:00 on this clip:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/index.jhtml?episodeId=209416

 of being racist.
Intendi dire che è sbagliato sollevare un polverone per una battuta del 
genere? 

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I didn't say it's wrong. But I think it's all a lot of fuss over nothing.
Kiuhnm

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That coglioni remark is understandable. He's trying to get even with all
those guys who didn't give him a good tip when he worked as a bagnino on
cruise ships - which may also explain his preoccupation with tanning.
Joe from Massachusetts

 a lot of fuss over nothing.
And nobody said anything about Mr B. wagging his tail at the
not-so-democratic Russian leaders, like they were best pals.
Actually, I suspect that Mr B.'s not-so-nice "carineria" on the
"abbronzato" American President was Mr B. seeking to ingratiate
himself with the Russian leadership.

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Sì, ma qui Mister B. non ha fatto una 'statement of fact' come scrivi tu, ma 
una battuta che, indipendentemente dall'oggetto, può risultare non gradita o 
di cattivo gusto se rivolta a un uomo dall'enorme rilevanza politica come il 
presidente degli Usa. 

 presidente degli Usa. 
Would "young, handsome and black" have made sense?
Kiuhnm

 dall'enorme rilevanza politica come il presidente degli Usa.
Non sto a sindacare se sia stata una battuta di cattivo gusto oppure peggio.
Non mi piace quel "se rivolta a...."
Perche' , se fosse stata rivolta ad un poveretto qualsiasi, non sarebbe
stata forse peggio?
Io mi sarei incavolato molto di piů se fosse stata rivolta ad un povero
senza tetto o disoccupato. 

 
http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/index.jhtml?episodeId=209416
About this episode, could someone help me with those parts? Please
-1:56
" fruit has been banned in Montana.Largely *****  there?"
-2:27
"where voters... what **** response church"
-4:55
"well, she wasn't picked for her knowledge, she was picked for her
personality.She would look at her press ?clipping? on the morning and for
what has been described to me as ****
I tried going back and listening many times and I still can't get what they
say... :(
Btw, is my previous sentence written in correct english?

 povero senza tetto o disoccupato.
Hai ragione, ma purtroppo con il poveretto non si sfiora l'incidente 
diplomatico, e il caso politico in generale sarebbe stato molto 
ridimensionato. 

 Kiuhnm
"Black" descrive semplicemente la realtà; ovvio che non avrebbe avuto 
rilevanza ai fini di una battuta, ma Berlusconi fa il presidente del 
consiglio, e ogni tanto rinunciare a essere simpatico a tutti i costi può 
addirittura essere molto più produttivo... 

 Btw, is my previous sentence written in correct english?
Yes. 

 himself with the Russian leadership.
I think you can rest assured that it's the game of chess with Russia that 
occupies the sharp mind of the president-elect, not la scopa, especially if 
someone left a joker in the deck. 

 Yes.
Thank you very much! 

 But "young" and "tall" aren't!
Whoops...
:-)

 scopa, especially if someone left a joker in the deck.
Agreed. Yet the Italian debate plays only the Scopetta ;D

 p.s: joke per modo di dire.
LOL, tu stesso ammetti di essere OT ma lasci il flame agli altri?
p.s: ripassati un po' di inglese.
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 p.s: ripassati un po' di inglese.
fai passare un altro paio di giorni e vedrai che i compagni torneranno
a fare ciò che li tiene occupati da sessant'anni: bruciare bandiere
USA. Altro che Obama.

 bruciare bandiere USA. Altro che Obama.
This morning I listened to a press review from a leftist radio
station and they commented on Obama that he is not really "Afro", as
they said  ;D
Why? Because (if I got that right) he allegedly said he doesn't like
low waist trousers :-O