Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: "Baronetti" e "Cavalieri" in Inghilterra

Tra i "titoli" onorifici inglesi ci sono "baronetto" e "cavaliere"...
che differenza c'è tra questi due?
A chi spetta il titolo di "Sir"? I Beatles possono fregiarsi di tale
titolo?
Paolo

 A chi spetta il titolo di "Sir"?
Dear Paolo,
You have asked a complex question.
However to quote as simply as I am able:
Order of British Peerage
Titles of nobility, or peerages, are granted by the king or queen of Great
Britain upon the recommendation of the prime minister. In most hereditary
peerages, the title passes on to a peer's oldest son, or to his closest male
heir if the peer has no son (the other children are considered commoners).
The title becomes extinct if there is no male heir. There are some ancient
peerages that allow the title to be passed to a daughter if the holder
leaves no male descendant.
Life peerages are created each year by the British monarch for several
distinguished persons. Life peers hold the rank for their own lives only;
the titles do not pass on to their children. Both men and women may be
granted life peerages, and the titles given to them are baron and baroness.
Below are grades of peers ranked from the highest to the lowest and
the dates they were created (Duke is the highest hereditary rank below that
of prince.)
Duke or  Duchess (1337)
Marquess, Marquis or  Marchioness (1385)
Earl  or  Countess (c. 800-1000)
Viscount  or  Viscountess (1440)
Baron or  Baroness (c. 1066)
Baronet
Created 1611. A special hereditary rank, above Knight and below Baron,
introduced by James I for the purpose of raising money for the suppression
of the rebellion in Ulster. Baronets were required to pay £1,080 for the
privilege of their rank.)
Lord
Not a title, per se, but a form of address for a marquis, an earl, a
viscount, a baron, a younger son of a duke or marquis, or a bishop
Knights (of which  there are many here in The Realm, also known as this
newsgroup)
The Sovereign personally selects recipients for The Order of the Garter, The
Thistle, The Order of Merit, The Royal Victorian Order, The Royal Victorian
Chain, Royal Medals of Honour and Medals for long service. All other lists
are submitted to Her Majesty for approval.
All the material from these sources is collated at the Central Chancery of
the Orders of Knighthood. They produce two lists containing a total of
nearly 3500 names annually. One list is announced to celebrate Her Majesty's
Official Birthday in June, the other for New Year's Day. Additional lists
are formed when a Prime Minister leaves office, and another for a
Coronation.
Those selected for a knighthood may use the title 'Sir' following the
announcement and before the Investiture.
--
I remain as always, ecc., ecc.,
Bambi
dtb

 titolo?
    No, i Beatles non possono. O meglio, Paul McCartney può, gli altri no.
Ma andiamo con ordine.
    Ai Beatles fu conferito un MBE (Member of the British Empire), il piú
basso tra i titoli nobiliari. La traduzione "classica", ossia "baronetto", è
errata. Un MBE non ha il diritto di fregiarsi del titolo di "Sir".
    Nel 1996 (se non ricordo male) a Paul McCartney fu concessa un'ulteriore
gratifica. Grazie alle benemerenze che ha guadagnato per aver fondato una
scuola per giovani artisti e per altre nobili azioni, la regina ha deciso di
elevarlo al rango di "Knight", ossia "Cavaliere". Questo titolo, piú alto
del precedente, gli conferisce il diritto di includere "Sir" nel proprio
nome all'anagrafe, e di usare detto titolo quandunque egli lo desideri.
    Sperando di averti delucidato adeguatamente,
    Saluti e baci,
                       Nicola

errata. Un MBE non ha il diritto di fregiarsi del titolo di "Sir".
Close.
MBE means "Member of the Order of the British Empire".
The Order of the British Empire was established during WWI by 
King George V, and included five levels:
KGCBE - Knight Grand Cross Order of the British Empire
KBE - Knight of the Order ...
CBE - Commander of the Order ...
OBE - Officer of the Order ...
MBE - Member of the Order ...
The first two are Knighthoods, and confer the title "Sir"
Note that the Order of the British Empire is only one of the
British Orders of Chivalry: Here is a list of these orders:
The Most Noble Order of the Garter 
The Most Ancient and Most Noble Order of the Thistle 
The Most Illustrious Order of St Patrick 
The Most Honourable Order of the Bath 
The Order of Merit 
The Most Exalted Order of the Star of India 
The Most Distinguished Order of St Michael and St George 
The Most Eminent Order of the Indian Empire 
The Imperial Order of the Crown of India 
The Royal Victorian Order & The Royal Victorian Chain 
The Most Excellent Order of the British Empire 
The Order of the Companions of Honour 
The Distinguished Service Order 
The Imperial Service Order 
The Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of St John of Jerusalem 
(
http://www.kwtelecom.com/chivalry/britords.html
)
Raymot
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The Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of St John of Jerusalem
You forgot The Most Important One:
The Most Gallant Order of Icling
cheers,
Peltio
: )