Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: aiuto con provolaggine

Un pò di provolaggine:
"Sei stanca di camminare? sai com'è...con i tacchi! Se vuoi ti porto in 
braccio fino a casa!!"
Can anybody help me?
"Are you fed up with walking? you know ... your...! I may always ...."

 "Are you fed up with walking? you know ... your...! I may always ...."
I'm not sure, as usual:
"Are you tired with walking? I know (or "I see", "no wonder", [1]),
heels... I might carry you home in my arms".
Then she would jump into your arms, you would let her fall to the ground
and say "I said I *might*. Grammar, darling, is very important. Come over
and I'll show you my collection of grammar books. I couldn't live without
it, so much so that I keep it in my bedroom".
[1] How about "I can fancy" or just "I fancy (that)"?
Bye, FB
-- 
"It sounds appalling!"
"Interesting and appalling. The others just sound appalling!"
(Cold Comfort Farm, the film)

 
lei č stanca di camminare in piů le fano male le fette a causa dei tacchi

 "Are you fed up with walking? you know ... your...! I may always ...."
Are you tired of walking? You know how it is, wearing heels. If you want
I'll carry you home.
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This is my opinion of modern, colloquial, American English. 
If you feel the need to e-mail me, un-not my address first.

 I'll carry you home.
Would "carry" alone imply carrying someone in your arms? Wouldn't someone
infer you're going to drive her home?
Bye, FB
-- 
"Che cos'č un fallo da tergo? E non stiamo parlando della tua vita
privata."
(Intervista della Gialappa's Band a Elisabetta Canalis)

 infer you're going to drive her home?
With "carry"? I didn't know it could mean that. If I have ask to a woman if
she wants me to drive her back home, well, I would ask her if she wants me,
you know, to drive her back home. No carrying.
If I were to hear "I'll carry her home" I would think that the girl that
needs to be carried is wasted, aka *drunk*. Or maybe, poor li'l girl, she's
sprained her ankle.
Sebastiano

infer you're going to drive her home?
One can "carry" passengers in a car, but to carry someone home would
never be thought of this way. "Lift" would, "If you want, I'll give
you a lift home".

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Was Joey assuming the girl was drunk? (smiling face)
Bye, FB
-- 
Io ho deciso di rifiutarmi di vederlo: Ettore con la faccia di Eric Banana
mi fa venire i conati.
(commento sul film "Troy" apparso su it.fan.scrittori.tolkien)

sprained her ankle.
So would I.

 Un pň di provolaggine:
Cosa vuol dire?
-- 
Mary

 Bye, FB
No, sir, not for a minute.
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 No, sir, not for a minute.
Two questions, one answer. Two answers, one question would have been
weirder, anyway.
Could it only imply that you're offering to carry her home in your arms?
Not by car, because Jonny said so, but in your arms? Not in any other way?
Bye, FB
-- 
"Enjoying yourself, Elfine?"
"It's going to be such fun!"
"No, it's going to be amusing or diverting, not such fun, darling."
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 Bye, FB
Sorry, sir.
Two questions, two answers.
Yes, "carry" alone implies carrying someone in your arms.
No, no one would infer you were going to drive her home.
I suppose one could infer it might mean carrying her, say, over one's
shoulders like a sack of grain, but it's not really likely.
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 shoulders like a sack of grain, but it's not really likely.
I see, thank you sir. But why have you taken on sirring me, sir?
Bye, FB
-- 
"Che cos'è un fallo da tergo? E non stiamo parlando della tua vita
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 Bye, FB
Isn't it obvious? I'm drunk out of my mind! :)
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 Cosa vuol dire?
That means... being kind to her...or I may say...making her realize i'm 
trying to be kind to her...you know what I mean...

 Was Joey assuming the girl was drunk? (smiling face)
Nope, but *before* using the word "carry" there was an explanation (tired,
heels).
And if the girl is wasted, you don't talk to her, but to her friend. :)
Sebastiano

 you a lift home".
Or a "ride", on the other side of the pond.
Sebastiano

 Isn't it obvious? I'm drunk out of my mind! :)
Just hang over.
Yeah, my head is throbbing.
Sebastiano

 Cosa vuol dire?
Il provolone, oltre ad essere un formaggio, è il tipo che ci prova, il
cascamorto. No so perché, ma mi viene in mente Mario Merola. Forse lo
chiamavano provolone, non so.
Sebastiano

shoulders like a sack of grain, but it's not really likely.
There is one other metaphoric use I can think of. If one was apart of
a team, whether it be sport or work, and one or more members of that
team weren't performing as well as the others, thus requiring the
other members to put in more effort to compensate for their
shortfalls. Then it can be said that they are "carrying" the weaker
members.

 members.
Oh, I see. We'd say "trascinare".
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 chiamavano provolone, non so.
perch? ha la faccia da provolone (inteso come formaggio), lol
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Yeah, whatever...

 Sebastiano
My head throbs too, but I catched a cold last night :(
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Yeah, whatever...

 My head throbs too, but I catched a cold last night :(
I'm sure you meant "caught", but if you have the chance to get some
echinacea with golden seal, take twice the amount prescribed every few
hours, and your symptoms will disappear. Guaranteed.
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 hours, and your symptoms will disappear. Guaranteed.
thanks a lot :)
-- 
Yeah, whatever...

 Just hang over.
Intendi l'imperativo o invece dire 'hung-over'?
You have a hangover but you are hung-over. 

 You have a hangover but you are hung-over.
Oh, I think I have always written "hungover", with no hyphen. Which is the
one I should use?
Sebastiano

 heels. If you want I'll carry you home.
Questa frase mi fa venire in mente questa domanda:
come si dice "andare a cavalluccio" cioè quando uno porta 
un altro a cavalcioni sulla schiena?
 
-- 
Today no, tomorrow yes.

 one I should use?
Neither; you should stop being a child and start drinking responsibly.
  (Just joking... Pass me another martini, please...:) 
Hangover (as a noun) and hungover (as an adjective) don't require a hyphen.
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 Hangover (as a noun) and hungover (as an adjective) don't require a hyphen.
On The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language I found this:
"hung-over" also "hung over" or "hungover".
On The Merriam Webster there is only hungover.
I will write them with no hyphen, but I think that it's not that uncommon
to find them hyphenated (at list hung-over).
Sebastiano

 needs to be carried is wasted, aka *drunk*.
mmm..by the way:is *wasted* english or american,I mean common,or it's your
translation of *veneto* idiomatic form?
;)
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 ;)
No, it's not my own translation of "desfà". :)
It's slang. It's common in the US, and I think it's also common in GB and
Aussie. It means very drunk or intoxicated.
Sebastiano

 un altro a cavalcioni sulla schiena?
Portare a cavalluccio: to carry astride one's shoulders.
--
JFC
"I AM MY WILL"

 Portare a cavalluccio: to carry astride one's shoulders.
Mai sentito; normalmente si dice "to give s.o. a piggyback".
-- 
Mary

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Ho trovato nel mio vecchio diz. "astride [of]: a 
cavalcioni; con gambe aperte; a cavalcioni di."
piggyback non l'ho trovato, e mi chiedo che c'entrino i 
maiali, so che siete bizzarri, ma cavalcate anche i maiali 
nelle isole britanniche?
:-)
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ADPUF ha scritto:
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Dobbiamo anche calvalcare i maiali negli USA; abbiamo la stessa parola. :)
From M-W online:
pig·gy·back
Pronunciation: 'pi-gE-"bak
Function: adverb
Etymology: alteration of earlier a pick pack, of unknown origin
1 : up on the back and shoulders
2 : on or as if on the back of another; especially : on a railroad flatcar
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 railroad flatcar
Sono sollevato! 
I maiali non c'entrano e nessuno li cavalca (lo dirò a 
Silvio :-)
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