Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: panino

So I go to Noodles at least 6 times a week to satisfy my inner need for 
pasta.  Sometimes I ask for bread too.  I don't want their flat bread, 
so I ask for a "roll of bread".  They /never/ understand me.  But! If 
say "bread roll" they know what I mean right away.
Aren't the two expressions equivalent?
Thanks!
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

> Aren't the two expressions equivalent?
Why, apparently they are not. What more evidence do you need?

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There's no real expression "a roll of bread."
There is bread and there are rolls. Even "bread roll" is redundant.
I would suggest saying  "I'd like a roll instead of the flat bread."
-- 
Joe/Joey in New York

 So I go to Noodles at least 6 times a week to satisfy my inner need for 
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PS: Doesn't it DRIVE YOU CRAZY to hear people say "I want a PANINI!"
And "The Olive Garden" (are there Olive Garden restaurants there?), which 
feature delights called "pansotti."  YUM!
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 I would suggest saying  "I'd like a roll instead of the flat bread."
Yeah, but that's so long! It requires too much effort on my part.
:-D
So "roll" should be enough, huh?
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

 feature delights called "pansotti."  YUM!
I was told here on the newsgroup to avoid Olive Garden by all means, so 
I've never been to one. If there's Olive Garden near here, it's probably 
far from campus, only reachable by car, which I don't have. So no Olive 
Garden for me. :-)
By the way, why were there so many panettoni and pandori at Christmas, 
but no colombe di pasqua anywhere? Man, I went to this place called 
"world harvest", I don't know whether it's a chain or not, where they 
have all kinds of international food. I wanted to buy a colomba, but I 
could only find the leftovers from last Christams.  Small panettoni that 
nobody bought.
:-(
How about chocolate eggs? Nope, nothing.  Is it true you have chocolate 
bunnies?
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

 Why, apparently they are not. What more evidence do you need?
Well, you never know. 50% of the times people don't understand me when I 
pronounce "water" in BrEn, so I have to repeat it in AmEn.  Australian 
people have no problem at all understanding me, but Americans do.  I 
always have to repeat something.  I don't want to know what I sound like! :D
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

 So "roll" should be enough, huh?
Yes, "roll" should be enough (but MAN, are you lazy!)
I was just suggesting you ask for a "roll instead of the flat bread" to be 
sure the waiter/waitress knew what you meant. :-P
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Please don't think I was even remotely suggesting you go to the Olive Garden. 
It's a affront to restaurants and Italians everywhere.
"When you're here, you're family," they say. Not MY family...
I don't know why there are no colombe di pasqua. I don't know if I've ever 
seen them. Is that the thing with the egg baked into it? Even Alta Cucina 
around the corner doesn't have them. Maybe they're just a little too 
specialized. It sems to me that Christmas is a bigger deal than Easter here.
You didn't find any chocolate eggs? Now? At Easter time? Where are you, in 
the deepest jungles of Middle America? They're all over the place around 
here, along with chocolate bunnies and marshmallow chicks, called "Peeps."
http://george.loper.org/trends/2005/Mar/930.html
(But bunnies don't really lay eggs, you know. Not even in Amurrca.)
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 wine a few days before I called him, and he had never seen it before.
Se ti riferisci a dei biscotti di cui un'altra volta hai postato un 
link, si tratta di cantuccini toscani...

 specialized. It sems to me that Christmas is a bigger deal than Easter here.
http://catalog.gamberorosso.it/images/colomba.jpg

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Thanks. That looks delicious. I had never seen one.
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 Thanks. That looks delicious. I had never seen one.
Non la posso soffrire
-- 
Eîpen dè ho Iesoûs, oudè egó se katakríno: poreúou, kaì
apò toû nûn mekéti hamártane (Euaggélion katà Ioánnen, 8,11)

 link, si tratta di cantuccini toscani...
E si mangiano col vin Santo (anche se si prestano pure nel cappuccino)
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http://catalog.gamberorosso.it/images/colomba.jpg
c'è anche la ricetta
http://italiansdoeatbetter.blogspot.com/2010/03/colomba-di-pasqua.html
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 Yes, "roll" should be enough (but MAN, are you lazy!)
Indeed I am.
:-D
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

 here, along with chocolate bunnies and marshmallow chicks, called "Peeps."
Ok, because there's no Easter without eating chocolate, I'll now go 
again to the nearest supermarket and hopefully I'll find some.
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

 link, si tratta di cantuccini toscani...
Yeah, those ones. BTW, do you know what biscuits are in America?
:-)
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

 Voglio l'uovo kinder!!!
I read that it's illegal to import Kinder eggs into the US because
they are a food item containing non-food parts, and people might not
realise they shouldn't attempt to swallow the plastic yellow cylinder.

 realise they shouldn't attempt to swallow the plastic yellow cylinder.
Oh really? I actually saw them at this place I mentioned before, "world 
harvest", but they were like $2.60 each, so no thank you.
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

 
Why not? Too dry? It looks good, but the recipe is way too complicated. (And 
anyway I haven't looked up 'tuorlo' so I have no idea if I can find one here! 
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 anyway I haven't looked up 'tuorlo' so I have no idea if I can find one here! 
They don't have it in Illinois, for sure.
:-DDD
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

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LOL! Tuorlo = yolk.
With all those chickens running around the main streets they don't have 
yolks??
I guess the yolk's on me.
(OLD joke:  yolk = joke)
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Enrico il Pentolaio, 19:56, domenica 4 aprile 2010:
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Si trova la Nutella® ? 
-- 
"Advertising is the rattling of a stick inside a swill bucket."
                -- George Orwell

 plastic yellow cylinder.
I read that somewhere in the USA a gun (pistol) was sold with
such warning: "DO NOT USE AS A HAMMER".
-- 
"Contrariwise," continued Tweedledee, "if it was so, it might
be, and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. 
That's logic!"
                -- Lewis Carroll, "Through the Looking Glass"

 
I hope so. Nutella is pretty easy to find everywhere I've been.
But hey: if they don't have egg yolks in Champaign they might not have 
Nutella.
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 Si trova la Nutella® ? 
Sì!
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

 such warning: "DO NOT USE AS A HAMMER".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinder_Eggs
 dice che sono illegali.
chiaramente non ti puoi fidare di tutto quello che vedi su wikipedia.
comunque, ho letto della loro illegalita' per la prima volta qui:
http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Souvenir-Potpourri-Surprise!.aspx

 Sě!
A prezzo ragionevole?
E su cosa la spalmi?
-- 
"Non rimandare a domani ciň che puoi rimandare senza alcuna
difficoltŕ a dopodomani."
                -- Mark Twain

 E su cosa la spalmi?
One of my sources in NY has a 13-ounce jar for $4.29.
I spread it on EVERYthing.  (Don't ask for details.)  :-)
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 E su cosa la spalmi?
Sul pane per i toast!
:-DDDD
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

 E su cosa la spalmi?
I used to spread it all over my girlfriends, then lick them clean. But it
ws the Eighties, and the Bay Area.

 ws the Eighties, and the Bay Area.
Those were the days...

The Squash Delivery Boy ha scritto:
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Una mia amica diceva che era troppo appiccicosa...

 Una mia amica diceva che era troppo appiccicosa...
A lei non piace sentire la pelle appiccicosa? Come riesci a tenerla 
sempre secca?

 Yes, "roll" should be enough 
It worked!
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

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Good. Next time ask for "a roll in the hay" and see what you get.
(But only if it's a waitress...)
NO! Don't! I'm just kidding.
roll in the hay: Slang. Sexual intercourse.
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Ma diciamolo forte: alle donne queste cose fanno schifo.
Le donne generalmente non sono propense a sporcarsi troppo, soprattutto se 
con i capelli lunghi.
ciao, Janis 

 secca?
Se lava.
E si asciuga.
ciao, J. 

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All of them?
Hai poca fantasia, tesoro della zia.
ciao, Janis 

 con i capelli lunghi.
Ma neanche a me il connubio tra sesso e cibo piace, tutt'altro. Però non 
è neanche vero che nessuna donna lo gradisca...

 Aren't the two expressions equivalent?
no. is "un uomo povero" and "un pover uomo" the same?
Horace (the Latin poet) once said that in language the main rule is that 
of the (common, widespread) )usage.
if you want to say something specific in a very specific contest, you 
have to abide by their custom. (_to_ their custom?)
eg in ambito motoristico si parla di règimi (del motore), non di regìmi 
(del motore). vaglielo a spiegare.
in physics you talk also about velocity, not about speed. they are _not_ 
the same.
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 >Giovanni

 abide by their custom. (_to_ their custom?)
"Abide by" is a set expression; you abide by the rules, e.g., not "to the 
rules."
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"Joe/Joey da New York" <joe...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
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I saw a TV commercial for Nutella the other day, so it must be widely 
available in the US.
Joe from Massachusetts 

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Now it's all about Yogurt.
Joe from Massachusetts 

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ROTFL
-- 
Anna

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Nella California (che si trova sempre all'avanguardia) mettono il numero di 
protezione solare sui contenitori.
Le donne lo comprano con l'occhio alla protezione solare.
Gli uomini, invece, lo comprano per il sapore.
Joe from Massachusetts