Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: misses

cosa significa "misses"? con la esse...
La prendo da qua:
"Captain smith and Pocahontas
had a very mad affair
When her daddy tried to kill him
She said: Daddy oh don't you dare!
He gives me fever
With his kisses
Fever
Qhen he holds me tight
Fever
I'm his misses
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Daddy won't you treat him right"
E' il testo di una canzone (anni 60)...non capisco il perché della esse, 
in realtà non conosco l'ambito in cui si usa la parola "miss" invece di 
baby, o girl...suppongo fossero gli anni 60.
ciao
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 >Giovanni

 I'm his misses
I'm his Mrs. = I'm his wife.
-- 
Joey from NY

 I'm his Mrs. = I'm his wife.
Yeah, usually it's spelt "missus".
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

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I wasn't sure that "missus" or "misses" would make sense to the OP.
-- 
Joey from NY

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Sorry, ma non concordo con le altre risposte.
"Misses", nella canzone, credo stia per "mistress" (amante), non per 
"missus" (moglie). I due infatti non erano sposati. Peraltro la canzone 
stessa parla di "very mad affair".
Qui trovi tutta la storia di Pocahontas e del Capitano Smith.
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 ciao
Don't miss the misses : 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss
miss (mis)
noun pl. misses miss′es
   1.
         1. a title used in speaking to or of an unmarried woman or 
girl and placed before the name: Miss Smith, the Misses Smith
         2. a title used in speaking to an unmarried woman or girl but 
used without the name
         3. ☆ a title given to a young woman winning a particular 
beauty contest or promoting a particular product: Miss Ohio, Miss 
Cotton
   2. a young, unmarried woman or girl
   3. a series of sizes in clothing for women and girls of average 
proportions: coats in misses' sizes
-- 
groetjes Renée
The way to know life is to love many things.
 Vincent van Gogh

 I'm his Mrs. = I'm his wife.
Damn! Pocahontas was not married (yet?) to John Smith! Don't you know 
the story? ;-)
-- 
 >Giovanni

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la storia la conosco.
purtroppo il testo che mi hai linkato non contiene né mrs né misses né 
missus.
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 >Giovanni

 proportions: coats in misses' sizes
beh, non ha senso...dice "misses", non "miss". e pocahontas è una, non 
plurisma.
vabbè, in america quindi se io voglio dire "sono la sua ragazza" posso 
dire "I'm his misses?". "i'm his mrs."?
o forse pocahontas voleva esprimere che si era legata a lui in maniera 
definitiva? sai, a quei tempi magari davi un bacio ed era per la vita, 
figuriamoci se ci facevi sesso.
insomma, un americano o un inglese che sente una frase del genere, che 
capisce?
ciao :-)
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 >Giovanni

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It's a PUN.
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Joey from NY

 It's a PUN.
I don't get it... Other than the obvious, what else can it mean? I suoi 
colpi mancati?
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DUH! >:-(
You could say Edevils *missses* the irony. :D
A questo punto ritiro il mio non essere d'accordo, e passo a concordare 
con tutti gli altri.
Per  Giovanni: vedi anche
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Misses
Misses
Eye dialect spelling of Mrs.
Alternative spelling of Missus.

 Alternative spelling of Missus.
I still don't get it.
Would Pocahontas say she's J. Smith's mrs meaning that she is his lover?
Is "mrs" used also in this way?
Ora maybe she just meant that they are so in love with each lover that 
it's serious, I'm yours and she's his?
Like Sookie Steakhouse when she tells the vampires that "she's his", 
referring to the vampire she is in love with (exclusively)?
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 >Giovanni

On 11/01/2011, Giovanni "Darke" wrote:
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Forse è perché Poca vuole salavarlo dal padre quando il padre vuole 
ucciderlo, come dice la canzone, dunque si inventa di dire che è sua 
moglie, per farlo trattare bene?

 colpi mancati?
Forse perché vuol dire moglie (la bugia detta al padre per salvare 
Smith) ma suona un po' come amante (la verità, di fatto)?

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(a) It's 'missus' . 'Missus' always means wife , not mistress , though you 
can have a common-law missus ... it's a colloquial , not a legal , term!
but (b) it's a song !  Since when have song lyrics confined themselves to 
standard English usage , particularly when a rhyme has to be made?  Look at 
the previous verse of this same song ('Fever')  :
    Romeo loved Juliet, Juliet she felt the same
   When he put his arms around her, he said "Julie baby you're my flame"
   Thou givest fever, when we kisseth, fever with thy flaming youth
   Fever - I'm afire, fever yea I burn forsooth
Mike

 stessa parla di "very mad affair".
Well, they're both pronounced the same way.
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.

 standard English usage 
Yeah, that too. Thanks for bringing that up. I actually hadn't realized it 
was from the song "Fever." That puts it into a whole new light. The whole 
song is tongue-in-cheek.
I remember when Peggy Lee recorded a very popular version of it (1958.) My 
local (Boston) DJ played *only that song* throughout his entire broadcast one 
day (about six hours; the same song over and over.) I think he got fired.
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Joey from NY

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It's really not about Pocohontas, that's just a passing reference. It's 
a song, a very famous song, called 'Fever'. And we all know how much 
poetic license is taken in song lyrics.
http://www.lyricsg.com/100498/lyrics/peggylee/fever.html
So, in essence, 'I'm his misses' (again, song lyric, put no stock in the 
spelling) means that she belongs to him, in the carnal sense. There's 
also a good chance that the songwriter wasn't fully informed about the 
marital status of pre-independence legendary figures.

 Well, they're both pronounced the same way.
Sì, sì. Ormai mi è chiaro di aver scritto una cappellata, tratto in 
inganno dalla storia di Pocahontas! :(

 inganno dalla storia di Pocahontas! :(
tu hai pensato a PORCAhontas, dì la verità :-)))
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 >Giovanni

I think we all agree that in this case "misses" (or missus, or whatever) 
means that she is his, and chief Powathan can't kill who her daughter 
belongs to.
bye
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 >Giovanni