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Titolo: and times it by 3...

Sto leggendo un manuale operativo in inglese (americano) e non ho capito
cosa vuol dire questo:
"Once you know the weight of your camera, or combined weight of your
camera and tripod head, you can take this amount and times it by 3."
Cosa significa "and times it by 3"? Moltiplicare? Dividere?
TIA
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It's an extremely silly fad that young kids are going through
meaning "multiply". You "plus" or "minus" something if you want
to add or subtract. I forget how they say divide.
I'm surprised the maths teachers don't pull them up on it.
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Raymot
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Brisbane, Aus.

 meaning "multiply". You "plus" or "minus" something if you want
This sounds news to me (but I'm not a native speaker).  I thought that 
"to time" a number by another number was a perfectly fine thing to say 
and write.
-- 
Tchau, -João do Sabão

 I'm surprised the maths teachers don't pull them up on it.
It's not a fad. It's been around for decades. And for the record when
I did teacher training around 20 years ago I visited schools where
the teachers used "to times" themselves, and (even worse, since no-one
anywhere says this in real life as far as I know), "to share". This
because "multiply" and "divide" are too hard, and we can't
expect 16 year olds to learn a few new words.
Also, never correct spelling even if you don't take marks off: it
would
crush the delicate flower that is the child's instinct towards self-
expression.
For this among other reasons I hated teacher training. The final straw
was
a deputy head asking me what I was doing to stop the brighter ones
from
getting ahead of the rest of the class. I said "nothing", thinking I'd
been
accused of this. She actually thought I _should_ be doing it and was
concerned
that I wasn't. I called her a criminal, she called me a fascist, and
it went
downhill from there. "I didn't realise teaching was about stopping
people
from learning things" and so on.

Adam Atkinson ha scritto:
[stuff]
for the sake of clarity, "What is 4 times 5?" is fine, but "We need to
times this by three" or
"What do you get if you times 8 by 7?" is not. And "What is 100 share
20?" or "What do you
get if you share this by 20?" is beyond bad into a whole new dimension
of rage-inducing
awfulness.
For the non-native speakers: You probably will hear some people use
the verb "to times". Don't
use it yourselves. I can't imagine you'll ever hear someone say "100
share 20".

 from getting ahead of the rest of the class.
LOL.
"I shot the sheriff, but I wish I had shot the deputy".
cheers,
Peltio
6 hours of sleep in 3 days. That makes, let's see... six shares 
three...
Where's my pocket calculator...

 The reb--- the Americans?
As far as concerns Italy, I hear it all started with the "Sessantotto"
protest movement and the infamous "diciotto politico".

 As far as concerns Italy, [...]
Questo mi suona male, io direi "as far as Italy is concerned"
(o, forse, "as far as it concerns Italy")
Sbaglio? 


 A modern one (like the New Oxford Dictionary that I use) will (classified 
as informal) .
'share' isn't used outside the primary school , and isn't (yet) in my 
dictionary ; though oddly it's much the more logical of the two , since '100 
shared by 20' simply uses the standard meaning of the verb , whereas in 'to 
times two by four' we have an illogical use of a noun as a verb , derived 
from 'two times four' (lit. due volte quattro) (in fact , it probably arose 
through the mistaken belief that the 'times' in the last phrase was in fact 
a verb! English children , in the days when they still learnt their 
multiplication tables , or times tables , used to chant 'two times two is 
four , three times two is six, four times two ...' , and I'm pretty sure 
that in those days I thought it was a verb) .
Mike
Mike 

 multiply".
Doesn't your dictionary mention "ain't"? "to times" is the same sort
of thing.

 'share' isn't used outside the primary school
I observed it being used with secondary school students. In at least
one case,
sixteen year-olds. (NB not by the students themselves.)

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Oh dear ! Things are even worse than I thought , then .
Mike 

 Oh dear ! Things are even worse than I thought , then .
I would like to imagine that this nonsense with "share" was local in
time and/or space
to the schools in the area I saw it in in the late 80s for some reason.