Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: non-qualcosa

vorrei un chiarimento su come si dice, per es., non-superficiale:
non-superficial
not-superficial
not superficial
e in generale se l'uso di una negazione davanti  ad un aggettivo è simile
all'italiano

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"Non-" nel caso di parole che non hanno già una forma negativa formata
con il prefisso "un", "dis", ecc.
-- 
Mary

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Credo però che ant intendesse qualcosa di diverso..
Se è così come penso, allora bisogna specificare prima che la forma
"non qualcosa" " nella norma si usa solo in Italiano  molto formale
oppure filosofico, scientifico ecc
Esempio  "se volessimo tentare un approccio non superficiale alla
questione" " una valutazione dei fatti non condizionata dalle logiche
ecc ecc.
In questo caso direi che in genere si usa "not" davanti all'aggettivo,
poi dipende dalla frase.
rollerbd
 
 

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oops scusa Mary avevo letto di molto di fretta, considerando solo
quello che dicevi su "un" e "dis" 
in effetti avevi già risposto in modo correttissimo... io ho solo
(credo, spero) specificato e chiarito maglio l'ambito di uso del "non"
davanti ad un aggettivo in italiano ed in inglese..
rollerbd

 poi dipende dalla frase.
Dipende come giri la frase.
Non si può dire "a not superficial approach", mentre si potrebbe
benissimo dire, anche se è insolito, "a non-superficial approach".
-- 
Mary

Mary Cassidy | it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
in <news:40C77563...@invalid.invalid>
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Ecco un esempio con "non-direction", nell'ultimo paragrafo :)
| That imperfection did not render the material inadmissible but it did
| necessitate a careful and detailed direction, the precise terms of which would be
| fact-dependent.
| 
| In Luttrell's case, quite apart from the lip-reading evidence, there was
| abundant evidence of his guilt and his appeal would be dismissed.
|
| In the cases of Dawson and Hamberger, the judge had deliberately decided not
| to remind the jury of evidence of Miss Rees's refusal to attempt a
| transcription in 1999 of a poor quality video and there was evidence that the
| quality of Hamberger's video was even worse.
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| If that non-direction, together with a misdirection which seemed to preclude
| the jury from looking at the video at all, had not occurred, the jury's
| verdicts might have been different. Accordingly, their convictions would be
| quashed and a retrial ordered.
[from yesterday's Times]
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This is amazing ! Where do you get your 'Times' ?  Are you perhaps a Time
Lord ?  I have in front of me today's 'Times' (Wed 9th June) with exactly
the same Law Report you quote from yesterday's ! You couldn't possibly post
early tomorrow (UK time) , could you , with the results of the afternoon
races at Newbury ?
Mike

 Mike
LOL. For that you may need a "Times machine"! :)
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Un-not my address if you wanna e-mail me.

 races at Newbury ?
I am afraid I can't, but I might possibly provide Loki in NZ with some
advance race results, having an 11 hours' time lead on him ;)))
-- 
Every stick has two ends

 races at Newbury ?
I am afraid I can't, but I might possibly provide Loki in NZ with some
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 advance race results, having an 11 hours' time lead on him ;)))
on him ? I've always thought Loki were a "she" ! :o
-- 
Maria Luisa C - 10/06/2004 14.23.44, here.
(please, point out my English errors)

 advance race results, having an 11 hours' time lead on him ;)))
Ahem... her!
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Mary

 on him ? I've always thought Loki were a "she" ! :o
So have I. Nevertheless I mix up things sometimes, because the only
other Loki I knew about, Thor's evil half-brother in Marvel Comics'
Scandinavian mythology, was a male. 
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Don't rock the boat