Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: genitivo sassone plurale

Come si dice "le canzoni dei Beatles"?
come si dice "le canzoni dei Deep Purple"?
Il Burlington non fa esempi e neanche lo Swan, e cercando
nell'archivio non ho trovato.
Un'altra cosa: come si pronuncia "the CDs"? La "s" del plurale si
dice?
grazie
A.


penso di si o_o;
Paola 

 penso di si o_o;
Beh, perché no? Si pronuncia [z], ovvero la "s" di "asma" e "sbarra".
Ciao, FB
-- 
Conversation like television set on honeymoon: unnecessary.
(Murder by Death)

 the deep purple's song
The songs of the Beatles
The Beatles' songs.
The songs of Deep Purple
Deep Purple's songs
The songs of the Beach Boys
The Beach Boys' songs.
The songs of Green Day
Green Day's songs
The songs of Article 31
Article 31's songs
But what do Italians say?: (gli) Article 31; le canzoni (di)(degli)
Article 31?
Joe from Massachusetts

 Article 31?
Le canzoni DEGLI Articolo 31
Ciao
Davide

 Article 31?
degli
Alexandro 

 perchè senza articolo in questo caso? ....
Perché l'articolo fa parte del nome del gruppo.
I nomi sono "the Beach Boys", "the Rolling Stones", ecc. ma "Deep
Purple", "Article 31", ecc.
-- 
Mary

 Deep Purple's songs
The song of Deep Purple
Deep Purple's song
I know of one.
[...]
Bye, FB
-- 
"Suppose I say I'm not interested."
"Does five hundred dollars interest you?"
"Very much."
"Then bring it: it's an expensive restaurant".
(The Cheap Detective)

I know of one.
Smoke on the water?
I'll bet you'd also know "Black night" if you heard it.

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"J. AX (Alessandro Aleotti) e JAD (Luca Perrini) hanno scelto di
chiamarsi ARTICOLO 31 perché, secondo la Costituzione irlandese, è l'
articolo che sancisce la libertà di espressione sui media."
http://www.articolo31.com/story/
I don't think that Article 31 of the Irish Constitution, whether it be
the 1922 version or the 1937 version, has anything to do with free
speech or freedom of expression. So where did Articolo 31 get the
name?
Joe from Massachusetts

 I'll bet you'd also know "Black night" if you heard it.
I'll try and get it.
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 name?
Ehm... boh! :)
Davide

 expression?
Article 31 of the Irish Constitution doesn't - I checked.
-- 
Mary

> speech or freedom of expression.
Well, actually, no:
http://www.taoiseach.gov.ie/upload/publications/297.htm

 expression? 
[...]
I guess he can read. Pretty extraordinary, innit?
Bye, FB
-- 
"Something to take to the country." (holding out a bunch of flowers)
"Flowers come _from_ the country, Charles."
(Cold Comfort Farm, the film)

 Ehm... boh! :)
già che ci siamo, come si dice boh! in inglese?
esiste un intercalare o un semplice "who knows?" va bene lo stesso?
:-)
Alex

già che ci siamo, come si dice boh! in inglese?
Dal Picchi:
bóh: int don’t know, who knows, no idea.
Io azzerderai anche un "search me" e un "beats me" che hanno un significato
simile.
Sul "search me" però ricordo che mi avevano fatto notare qualcosa, forse che
era un modo di dire americano e abbastanza antinquato.
Ma non ricordo bene.
saluti,
Peltio

era un modo di dire americano e abbastanza antinquato.
"antiquato"


And I can even count to ten - without having to remove my shoes.  :>)
Joe from Massachusetts

"Peltio" <pel...@trilight.zone> wrote in message 
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Before getting to your post , I'd mentally answered , 'Search me!' - my 
English may occasionally be old-fashioned (though I don't think this is) , 
but rarely American (that is , unless a phrase of American origin has been 
fully accepted into UK English) .
I've just checked , and 'Search me' is given in my New Oxford Dict., without 
any reference to American usage or origin .
Mike 

 I guess he can read. Pretty extraordinary, innit?
I'm sure he can read, but he told "I think", so I, in my turn, thought that
he had a particular reason to say that... I don't know, something like "my
great-grandfather was one of the signatories of the constitution, before he
emigrates in USA" (just kidding, huh :)
Bye!
Davide

 emigrates in USA" (just kidding, huh :)
I know you were kidding, but I'm not sure about the right way to say it, 
Shouldn't it be: "my great-grandfather *had been* one of the signatories 
of the constitution, before he *emigrated* in :the: USA" ?
Just curious!

 esiste un intercalare o un semplice "who knows?" va bene lo stesso?
No, non esiste nulla di simile al nostro boh in inglese.
Tschüss,
Enrico il Pentolaio
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http://members.xoom.it/srw
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"Ricordo che un mio saggio amico era solito dire:" Cio' che e' un affare per
tutti, non è un affare per nessuno"." (Izaak Walton)


I confess I had never heard that expression. Anyway, this page could be 
useful: 
http://snipurl.com/cicy
It says about "search me"
"The idea of the last one is that if you did a body search on me, you would 
not find the answer to the questions you have asked."
Che fantasia!
Regards, Lorenzo 

 No, non esiste nulla di simile al nostro boh in inglese.
Esportiamolo.
Come la pizza e l'espresso.
-- 
Today no, tomorrow yes.

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'Don't ask me!' is also very common (UK)
Mike 

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By the way, does ", no?" come from Italian? I encounter it once in a while;
e.g. "And the same goes for British English, no?". Actually I'm not sure it
means the same as in Italian, so I've never used it.
Bye, FB
-- 
After a year of speculation, inventor Dean Kamen unveiled his mysterious
"It", which is a battery-powered two-wheel people mover. Many believe it
will completely revolutionize the way people get hit by cars.
(Saturday Night Live)

 Just curious!
Me too!

 perhaps "to" USA?
Google results:
19.700 pages with "to the usa"
6.780 with "to usa"
193 with "in usa"

 means the same as in Italian, so I've never used it.
Boh, non mi risulta che in inglese sia possibile un'espressione di quel
tipo.
Mah...
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Giò
A man has dreams of walking with giants,
to carve his niche in the edifice of time.
Before the mortar of his zeal
has a chance to congeal
the cup is dashed from his lips,
the flame is snuffed aborning.


"James" is not a plural, but merely a name which ends in the letter
"s".
If it were St. John who had a park named after him, it would be St.
John's Park.
St. James's follows the regular rule for the possessive of the proper
noun James.
The fact that James ends in "s" does complicate things.
There are two well-known writers, who happen to be brothers,  whose
last name is James - William and Henry James..
The Jameses were each famous for different reasons:  William James is
considered a philosopher, while Henry is probably better known,
because he was a novelist. William James's work includes "The
Varieties of Religious Experience", while Henry James's novels, "Daisy
Miller" and "The Bostonians" probably reach a wider audience than his
brother's writings.
The Jameses' writings represent a unique example of literary
accomplishment from a single family.
James - proper name
Jameses - plural of proper name
James's - possessive singular
Jameses' - possessive plural
Joe from Massachusetts

noun James.
è una regola apposta per "James" o che altro?
ossia: se dovessi dire "di Keynes". Come dire?
"Keynes's thoughts" ?
(parlo del famoso politico-economista britannico)
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Keynes is very well known here, and was the prime influence on
American economists for many years, and is still an influence on some.
Keynes's wife was a ballerina.
The Keynses maintained an interesting household. Visitors to the house
who were conversing in the living room with the economist would often
hear the sounds of dancing feet above them, coming from the Keynses'
bedroom, where Mrs. Keynes was practicing her dance steps.
Joe from Massachusetts

 American economists for many years, and is still an influence on some.
[...]
He's very famous in Italy, too; nevertheless, they keep calling him
['kEines].
Bye, FB
-- 
Se dico "siedi!" manca l'oggetto.
Siedo chi? Lei o me?
(da it.cultura.linguistica.italiano)

hear the sounds of dancing feet above them, coming from the Keynses'
Keynses' ?
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['kEines].
per esattezza a economia e commercio, dove si studia di più, lo
chiamano "kéinés", accentato sulla prima e (ho scritto la lettura
fonetica delle due e, come le sento in genere).
E' ricordato come il padre dello Stato Sociale. In questo senso, gli
Usa sembrano aver appreso davvero molto poco da lui.
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 lui.
Al contrario, le spese statali USA sono enormi.
Solo che spendono molto in armamenti e poco in servizi 
pubblici.
(Keynes sosteneva il deficit di bilancio, più che lo stato 
sociale.)
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sociale.)
sinceramente ripetevo il sentito dire, non quello che (non) ho
studiato.
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 sinceramente non lo sapevo.
[...]
Beh, se lo stato compra i missili, la gente non deve acquistarli
privatamente, a costi molto più alti.
Ciao, FB
-- 
"While I'm here, might I make a few changes? I adore my bedroom, but do you
think I could have my curtains washed? I believe they're red, but I should
like to make sure."
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privatamente, a costi molto più alti.
Sì, ma ancora non conosco nessuno stato che spenda "troppo" in
medicine.
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 Keynses' ?
Keyneses'  :>(
Joe from Massachusetts

Keyneses'  :>(
aridaje... :-)
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