Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Ben cotto

Qual è il termine esatto per esprimere "ben cotto" riferito ad un piatto??
Well done .....o ...well cooked???
Grazie

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Io ho solo sentito dire "well done".
Ciau
Fab

> Qual è il termine esatto per esprimere "ben cotto" riferito ad un piatto??
"well done" e' per una bistecca, per il resto e' "well cooked".
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 "well done" e' per una bistecca, per il resto e' "well cooked".
Alcuni dizionari "well-done" lo specificano solo per la carne, altri sono
per cibo generico, ad esempio:
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/welldone?view=uk
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?dict=CALD&key=89822
In un romanzo letto recentemente ho trovato anche "over well".
'bye

 "well done" e' per una bistecca, per il resto e' "well cooked".
Ma si puo' dire "well cooked" anche per una "steak", no?
Una mia conoscente metà inglese e metà americana mi aveva confermato che si 
dice "well cooked", ma vivendo quasi sempre in Italia non fa troppo testo.
Tschüss,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
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"E ora ridateci la Gioconda!" 

 ma vivendo quasi sempre in Italia non fa troppo testo.
Non credo che possa mai venire l'ora in cui si possa dimenticare la
propria lingua madre (che uso di congiuntivo, eh?)
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 propria lingua madre (che uso di congiuntivo, eh?)
Veramente è italiana con madre inglese.
Volevo soltanto dire che la sua esperienza linguistica non è proprio uguale 
a chi ha vissuto _sempre_ in UK.
;-)
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 propria lingua madre
http://lgxserver.uniba.it/lei/rassegna/010915g.htm
[...]
"E' vero, le persone possono dimenticare la lingua madre, l'ho
visto coi miei stessi occhi...".
Questa dimenticanza è il prodotto di una rimozione?
"In molti casi sì. L'ho visto accadere ad alcuni come conseguenza di
un trauma. Vede, decisivo non fu l'anno 1933, quantomeno non per me;
decisivo fu il giorno in cui venimmo a sapere di Auschwitz".
E quando avvenne?
"Nel 1943..."
[...]
http://www.italicon.it/modulo.asp?M=m00149&S=4&P=3
[...]
la lingua degli emigrati si impoverisce progressivamente, perché non
è più usata come veicolo principale di comunicazione e non c'è
più un modello di lingua "vivo".
[...]
- "interferenza della lingua del paese di arrivo": l'italiano degli
emigrati italiani all'estero si è modificato rispetto a quello della
madrepatria anche a causa dell'interferenza della lingua del paese di
arrivo. L'interferenza si verifica soprattutto a livello di prestiti
lessicali, calchi semantici e calchi strutturali. Nella lingua degli
italiani emigrati negli Stati Uniti si ritrovano così le parole
chemista per "farmacista" (inglese chemist), farma per "fattoria"
(inglese farm), calchi semantici come libreria per designare la
"biblioteca" (inglese library), calchi strutturali come scuola alta
(inglese high school) (Berruto, Sociolinguistica dell'italiano
contemporaneo: 184).
[...]

Secondo me, la lingua madre la dimentica solo chi non la conosceva bene
gia' dal principio e questo e' il caso degli immigrati a cui fanno
riferimeno i tuoi link.
Non conoscere bene la propria lingua madre in realta' e' anche un
vantaggio per chi vuole imparare una seconda lingua (fino ad un certo
punto pero').
Io abito in Inghilterra da 8 anni e ricordo che quando arrivai conobbi un
albanese che era appena arrivato senza sapere una parola di inglese.
Parlava pero' benissimo l'italiano (in realta' lui aveva abitato per 10
anni in Italia illegalmente, poi si era trasferito in Inghilterra per
chiedere asilo politico come finto profugo dal Kosovo). 
Io l'inglese gia' lo sapevo piuttosto bene, avendolo studiato a scuola e
in tante vacanze-studio, lui non sapeva letteralmente una mazza.
Ebbene oggi io ho sicuramente progredito, in maniera lenta e lineare, lui
invece ha fatto passi da gigante, perche' adesso parla inglese
fluentemente.
Pero' ti posso dire che lui oggi l'italiano non lo sa parlare piu' e forse
nemmeno l'albanese, per quel che io ne sappia. Io invece penso di
ricordarmi l'italiano come il primo giorno (vabbe', tranne qualche
congiuntivo criminale, ma l'ho detto in fretta...).
Io ho fatto il liceo classico e poi mi sono laureato in Italia, lui e'
analfabeta, perche' mi ha detto che non sa leggere ne' scrivere non solo
l'inglese ma non ha mai saputo leggere e scrivere bene nemmeno l'albanese.
Io ad orecchio non sono in grado di imparare niente, ogni parola o
espressione inglese nuova l'ho sempre vista sul vocabolario, al contrario
di lui che invece ha imparato tutto ad orecchio, come i bambini.
Se io e lui ci trasferissimo, che so, in Cina, dopo qualche anno lui
parlerebbe cinese, io non imparerei una parola.
Lui la puo' dimenticare la lingua madre, io no. (Ammetto pero' che io
faccio le vacanze in Italia, telefono spesso in Italia e ogni tanto leggo
corriere.it
)
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 riferimeno i tuoi link.
Mio cugggino ha vissuto per 27 anni in Italia prima di trasferirsi in 
SPAGNA, DOVE SI č SPOSATO.
lA LINGUA LA CONOSCEVA BENE, E LA USAVA ANCHE PER LAVORO,
merda il caps lock !
e ora quando mi telefona parla un misto di italiano espagnolo e fa 
fatica a coniugare certi verbi e a ricordare i nomi degli oggetti.
saluti,
Peltio
sě, sě, proprio mio cugggino.
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 riferimeno i tuoi link.
Molto immigrati parlavano un dialetto, e non l'hanno dimenticato,
perché continuavano a parlarlo a casa e con i compaesani emigrati
anche loro. Se però sei da solo, ti sposi con una native, usi sempre
la lingua del Paese che ti ospita... secondo me dopo un decennio o giù
di lì cominci a fare confusione tra la tua lingua madre e la nuova
lingua sposa! :)

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"Well done" in the US means "thoroughly cooked", used especially in
regard to meat, such as steak. Steak can be rare (hardly cooked at
all, and running with blood), medium-rare (not quite so bloody),
medium (all the blood has disappeared), medium-well (all the pink has
disappeared), and well done (typical leathery Italian "bistecca". :>)
http://www.goodcooking.com/steak/doneness.htm
"Well cooked" is never applied to steak, but is applied to foods which
should be thoroughly cooked because of potential health problems, such
as poultry, eggs, pork, and shellfish. "Well-cooked" does not mean
cooked as thoroughly as "well-done" suggests.
Americans are very particular about the way in which their breakfast
eggs are cooked. Fried eggs can be "sunny-side up" (unturned egg with
an intact soft yolk with firmly cooked white), or "over easy"/"over
light" (yolk partially cooked, white completely cooked), and "over
well"/"over hard" (yolk and white both thoroughly cooked).
I have never heard "over well" used to refer to anything but the
cooking of eggs.
Once when I was in Sicily, I felt a craving for an American breakfast
of ham and eggs. I had to explain to the cook in a restarurant exactly
how I wanted the eggs (sunny-side up), and he thought I was crazy, but
I got them cooked the way I wanted them. The trick is to make sure the
pan is not too hot, and to use plenty of butter, otherwise the whites
form a sort of cellophane and are not very tasty.
Joe from Massachusetts

 how I wanted the eggs (sunny-side up), and he thought I was crazy, but
Indeed! Fried eggs at breakfast! :-P

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My usual breakfast was a Buondì Motta and a cappuccino, but
occasionally I had to have my fried eggs with ham and toast.
Joe from Massachusetts


In the while scientists seem to have reached the goal of cooking the perfect
boiled egg:
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/07/31/eggs.cooking/index.html
[.....for the possible amateurs]
"A separate invention by a British student also promises to help perfect the
egg boiling process.Ben Harris, 22, of Brunel University says his "PerfEGG"
device keeps water temperature constant for 8.5 minutes without reaching
boiling point, PA reported.This lets the egg white coagulate but keep the
yolk runny, regardless of egg size. The PerfEGG's timing can be adjusted for
hard-boiled eggs".

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I occasionally have a "soft-boiled egg" for breakfast. Most people
call it a "three-minute egg", because after three minutes in boiling
water, the egg yolk is still a little runny, while the white is firm.
I often had soft-boiled eggs with toast in the dining cars on the
trains between Germany and Italy.
Are Italians particularly fond of this type of egg, or is it something
which is more popular in Germany?
Joe from Massachusetts


For sure I can't answer in my fellow countrymen's name, but I don't like it,
really I'd rather swallow scores of marshallows :))! Anyway  I suspect it's
Krauts fitter to eat that stuff...
dd

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marshmallows, sorry!
dd 

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Appena visto al TG1:
Uova intelligenti dalla Gran Bretagna.
Sul guscio, raggiunta la cottura desiderata, comparirà uno dei tre
differenti marchi: "soft", "medium", "hard".
Joe from Massachusetts

 riferimeno i tuoi link.
Molto immigrati parlavano un dialetto, e non l'hanno dimenticato,
perché continuavano a parlarlo a casa e con i compaesani emigrati
anche loro. Se perň sei da solo, ti sposi con una native, usi sempre
la lingua del Paese che ti ospita... secondo me dopo un decennio o giů
di lě cominci a fare confusione tra la tua lingua madre e la nuova
lingua sposa! :)
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Durante gli anni cinquanta, c'erano molti franco-canadesi qui nel
Massachusetts che parlavano il francese a casa.
Mia moglie ha alcuni parenti che parlavano solo il francese prima di
cominciare la scuola elementare.
Dopo pochi anni, i bambini hanno dimenticato completamente il francese
che avevano parlato esclusivamente per cinque o sei anni.
Joe from Massachsetts

 differenti marchi: "soft", "medium", "hard".
 Tu vedi il tg1 in Massachusetts??
It's Marshall McLuhan's dream come true! 

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Marshall, shmarshall.
Anche tu puoi vederlo qui, se hai la banda larga.
http://www.raiclicktv.it/raiclickpc/secure/list_tg.srv?id=1879
Joe from Massachusetts

 
http://www.raiclicktv.it/raiclickpc/secure/list_tg.srv?id=1879
E già! Dal Web, naturalmente... chissà che mi credevo! Com'è l'Italia vista 
da laggiù? Comunque fra qualche giorno lo saprò anch'io dato che mi concedo 
una visita a New York per qualche giorno.... btw, any suggestions?
Saluti
dd 

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A me piacciono la metropolitana e gli autobus. A New York ce ne sono
parecchi.
Quando arrivi, devi trovare una mappa del sistema Bus/Subway. (Gratis
negli alberghi).
http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/nyct/index.html
Metrocard - $7/day or $24/week.
http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/metrocard/mcgtreng.htm#unlimited
Bronx Zoo, o se non hai il tempo, Central Park Zoo.
http://www.bronxzoo.com/
http://nyzoosandaquarium.com/5719085
New York Acquarium (Coney Island)/Brighton Beach ("Little Odessa").
Circle Line Cruise (around the island of Manhattan)
http://www.circleline42.com/
Intrepid Sea/Air/Space Museum
http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/intrepidmuseum/index.php?MERCURYSID=83426e1ceecef91b110daee6810e3890
Staten Island Ferry (gratis)
Ground Zero
Statue of Liberty
South Street Seaport (evening/night)
Empire State Building (at night, around 11 pm)
Rockefeller Center e dintorni.
Chinatown/Little Italy
Greenwich Village
Times Square
Musei, musei, musei!
Guggenheim, Whitney, Metropolitan Museum of Art, Museum of Modern Art
(recently reopened after expansion), Museum of the City of New York,
Museo del Barrio, Museum of Natural History/Haydn Planetarium (vicino
a "Strawberry Fields" a Central Park).
All museums have web sites with descriptions of current exhibits,
schedules, etc. Plan ahead if you want to visit a museum by checking
the schedules on the web sites, particularly the Museum of Natural
History/Haydn Planetarium.
NY Times NY City guide
http://travel2.nytimes.com/top/features/travel/destinations/unitedstates/newyork/newyorkcity/guide.html
Most Public Libraries have computers with free Internet access, so you
can keep in touch with the old country.
Many Public Libraries have free wireless access. There are also many
free wireless access hot spots in parks and other places around the
city.
There are many discounts if you buy tickets to several museums or
attractions. Check the web sites.
How long will you be in NYC?
Where will you be staying?
Joe from Massachusetts

 negli alberghi).
GRAZIE! Sei davvero stato gentilissimo a fornirmi questo elenco di luoghi da
visitare (I only think I won't visit the zoos because I suffer to see
animals behind cages!) In due settimane  penso che potrň vedere parecchio
della lista.Starň al Bedford Hotel, vicino alla NY Public Library (118 E
40th St) Wish me good luck and have yourself a very nice time!
dd


I had forgotten to mention the Public Library, with its famous lions.
I spent a lot of time there when I was in High School. There is a free
wireless access point in the library.
A few other places I forgot to mention:
*Bryant Park - directly behind the New York Public Library - there are
(free) films and concerts, so check the schedule.There is also a free
wireless access point in Bryant Park.
*United Nations (not far from the hotel, but there is a convenient bus
on 42nd St.).
That bus on 42nd St. is also convenient to the Intrepid Museum and the
Circle Line Cruise.
*Church of the Holy Family (the parish church for the United
Nations) - there is also a beautiful garden. This is a place that not
too many New Yorkers know. I usually go there around Christmas,
because they give out very nice calendars. :>)
http://www.mgardens.org/C-UK-RB-UNMG-030813.html
*Macy's Department Store and the Mall of New York on 34th St. (When
it's hot outside, you can go in and ride up and down on the escalators
and elevators to keep cool).
If you really have to buy some emergency inexpensive clothing, check
out
*Conways, which has several stores on 34th St, on the way from the
Empire State Building to Macy's. I often visit Macy's (where else can
you shop for a piano and a Playstation in the same store?), but I buy
at Conways.
The best clothing bargains are on the Lower East Side, centered around
Orchard Street, best visited on Sunday. Here you can find inexpensive
and designer items. This area was very important in the history of the
Jewish people in New York. Even if you don't buy anything, the area is
interesting and historic, and there are good places to eat. You could
combine a trip to Orchard Street with a trip to Chinatown and Little
Italy.
http://www.nycvisit.com/content/index.cfm?pagePkey=441
*Five Points - the intersection of Park, Worth, and Baxter Streets
gave the name to this area of NYC featured in the film "Gangs of New
York". This location is in the southern part of what is now Chinatown.
*Opus Dei US Headquarters - A brief walk from your hotel. (Hmm... now
we know why you're staying in this area!).
http://www.maypinska.com/pages/projects/buildbodylex.htm
*Fifth Avenue (expensive) shops - from St. Patrick's cathedral north
to 57th Street - look, don't buy. As you approach Central Park South,
passing one of Trump's buildings, drop in at the FAO Schwarz Toy
Store. Very expensive, but a nice place to visit. At Central Park
South, you will see the famous horse-drawn carriages. Give the poor
horses a break, and don't go for a ride, especially in this hot summer
weather. This is a good place to enter Central Park for a stroll. The
roads through the park are closed to automobile traffic on weekends,
but then speeding cyclists become the problem.
*Grand Central Terminal - a few blocks from your hotel. The restored
ceiling paintings are impressive. A massive, impressive building. You
will probably catch the subway here.
*Fifth Ave Bus (M4 Bus) - This bus runs from the Cloisters Museum in
far Northern Manhattan, down to 34th Street and Herald Square, the
home of Macy's Dept. Store. Along the way you can see the George
Washington Bridge, City College, Columbia University, the Cathedral of
St. John the Divine (still under construction), Harlem, Museum Mile on
Fifth Avenue, the birthplace of Joe Curtin on Fifth Avenue [Flower
Fifth Avenue Hospital at Fifth Ave. and 106th St. :>) ], Rockefeller
Center and St. Patrick's Cathedral. At one time Fifth Avenue was a
two-way street, but now it is a one-way street, so only the Southbound
bus runs along Fifth Avenue. The Northbound bus runs along Madison
Avenue. The bus runs along the entire northern boundary of Central
Park, and the entire eastern boundary of Central Park. If you have an
unlimited use Metrocard ($7/day, $24/week) you can jump off the bus to
take pictures, then catch the next bus. If the air-conditioning isn't
working, you can get off the bus and wait for the next bus. This bus
ride will show you a lot of New York, and give you an idea of some of
the places you might want to spend more time visiting.
I would suggest that you go by subway to the northern terminus of this
bus, to save time.
Take the "Shuttle" at Grand Central to Times Square. Follow the signs
to the "A" train.
Take the Uptown "A" train to 190th St. Take the NORTHBOUND #4 bus to
Fort Tryon Park and the Cloisters Museum. The bus turns around there,
and begins its southbound trek. You might want to get off at the
Cloisters to check out the museum or take a few pictures. Enjoy the
scenery and jump off the bus whenever you want.
Joe from Massachusetts


There are a few places I forgot, pertaining to Ground Zero:
St. Paul's Chapel near Ground Zero.
http://www.newyork.com/g_zero.html?cat=main
St. Peter's Church, near Ground Zero.
http://www.americancatholic.org/Messenger/Sep2003/Feature2.asp
Joe from Massachusetts


Are you sure it's Spilimbergo, and not Comeglians?   ;>)
I haven't been in the subway under Ground Zero since it was rebuilt.
Did you know that the "Imagine" mosaic at "Strawberry Fields" in
Central Park commemorating John Lennon was donated by the city of
Naples?
Joe from Massachusetts


The PATH system, once known as the "Hudson Tubes'' is a commuter
railroad line connecting New Jersey with downtown NYC. It is not
technically a part of the New York City subway system. It has its own
stations and fare structure. The PATH tracks ran directly under the
WTC, and the PATH "World Trade Center" station was destroyed,
along with much of the PATH tracks, which have now been rebuilt.
The station containing the mosaic is the "World Trade Center" station
for the PATH railroad line. It is a temporary station, to be
incorporated into the massive transportation hub which is planned for
lower Manhattan.
The Cortlandt St. Station on the "1" subway line under the WTC was
also destroyed and remains closed, but the trains are now back and
running through the same tunnels (after much rebuilding). The
Cortlandt St. station will not be rebuilt.
There is another Cortlandt St. station to the east, which is also
temporarily closed.
What will they do with the mosaic, when the new station is built in a
few years?
They say that "Spilimbergo is north of Venice". I thought it was north
of Udine?        :>)
Joe from Massachusetts

 There are a few places I forgot [...]
Overpowered by your kindness!
Your precious tips will surely be helpful to find my way in that 'asphalt
jungle' :). I don't want to take profit by your kindness but do you think  I
can get in touch with this ng thru the wireless access points scattered in
town ( I don't own a laptop)?
Thank you again and ciao
dd

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At worst, you would have to go to an Internet Cafe and pay about $3
for 15 minutes or $6 for 30 minutes of internet access. Some of these
cafés give you a discount on internet time if you buy something to eat
or drink.
At the Cybercafe in Times Square, "Surf & Dine package is $5.75 and
includes 15 min. computer time, a coffee, tea, or hot chocolate, and a
pastry or cookie", so maybe an occasional early morning visit here
could combine breakfast with checking your mail and news.
http://www.internet-cafe-guide.com/new-york-city-internet-cafe.html
Make sure you have a web-based email account (
yahoo.it
, etc.) if you
want to check email.
You don't need anything in particular to check this NG. When my ISP is
having problems with news, I go to
http://arianna.libero.it/usenet/cgi-bin/BrowseNews.epl?GRUPPO=it%2Ecultura%2Elinguistica%2Einglese
to check up on this newsgroup.
At best, you coould go to one of the New York Public libraries which
have computers which can be used for word processing, or for internet
access. I believe that all NYPL libraries have this capability, but I
don't know if you have to have a library card to use a PC.
There is a library, the "Mid-Manhattan Library", at 455 Fifth Avenue
at 40th Street, very near to your hotel. This library has "A Computer
Commons located on the fourth floor which provides free Internet
services and computer classes for the public."
http://www.nypl.org/branch/central/mml/
In the libraries, you have to reserve a PC, and are limited to about a
half-hour, when there are many people waiting to use the PCs. Many
NYPL libraries have wireless access, in addition to the normal wired
computer access, and there is no control over who accesses these
wireless hotspots, so I would imagine that they would allow an honest
Italian boy who wants to email his worried mama and tell her that he
hasn't been mugged in the Bad Apple to use a computer for a little
while.  :>)
Joe from Massachusetts

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"Internet access at the Cathedral Branch Library is available for
patrons who have a NYPL library card.
For tourists who are staying less than a week in the city, we have a
guest card that they can use once or twice to access the computers.
Sessions are given once per day and they last 10-45 minutes, depending
on availability.  Patrons may print ten free sheets, and each page
thereafter is ten cents each.
If a tourist is staying longer in the city, or wishes to use the
computer on a daily basis, he/she is encouraged to sign up for a
temporary library card strictly for Internet access.  Proof of address
(the place where he/she is staying in the city) on a piece of mail or
a bill is required, as well as photo ID to acquire a library card.
Each branch has different policies regarding the use of a guest pass."
(Info from the Cathedral Branch Library).
I would assume that this applies to the other libraries, such as the
Midtown Library near your hotel, but you can check with them when you
get to NYC. It sounds like you should get a temporary NYPL library
card as soon as you get there. All libraries are closed Sunday, most
are open Saturday.
Joe from Massachusetts

 temporary library card strictly for Internet access.
[...]
Un consiglio all'amico che va in America: goditi NY e non perdere tempo al 
computer!
;-)))
Tschüss,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
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"E ora ridateci la Gioconda!"
My still-in-construction website: 
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 computer!
15 minuti al giorno a rassicurare la mamma non è tanto. E forse vorrà
i nostri consigli quando gli offrono un "Rolex genuino" a Times Square
per $20.  :>)
Joe from Massachusetts

 computer!
Seriously,
If I didn't know New York like the back of my hand, if I hadn't lived
there, hadn't gone to school there, and hadn't later worked as a
messenger for a few years there, then I would probably agree.
But, if I were going to NYC for the first time, I would certainly take
advantage of the ability to get information from the internet which
could save me a lot of time. Because of the vast and complicated
transportation system, it is almost a requirement to get directions to
a place from the internet, so that you don't waste time going from
place to place when you are trying to cram as much sightseeing
as possible into a limited amount of time.
Getting information by telephone about attractions is often a
time-consuming and pointless undertaking, and many hotels have
restrictions about local phone calls.
The advantage of being able to plan your daily routine by a few
minutes spent in front of a computer is something I would appreciate
were I on my first visit to New York.
Joe from Massachusetts

 ;-)))
Credo che alla fine farņ fifty-fifty:  seguirņ, cioč, il tuo saggio
consiglio 'italiano' ma anche i preziosi link di joscurtin perchč questa
mela mi sembra davvero enorme anche da assaggiare: mi sono procurato  la
Martin Dunford's New York Directions
(
http://www.directionsguides.com/newyork.htm
) e ci ho messo un'ora soltanto
per sfogliarla. L'unica cosa storta, al momento, č che la p******
dell'agenzia mi ha prenotato un posto per non fumatori e la prospettiva di
stare tutte quelle ore sull'oceano senza una sigaretta mi suggerisce
pensieri da... hijacker!
Vedremo come andrą a finire!
Saluti, nel frattempo e a presto
dd

 could save me a lot of time.
The Italian keyword, in such circumstances is 'arrangiarsi' (arreglarse in
Spanish?) a kind of national ancestral attitude that you, knowing us as it
seems, should recognize among our main prerogatives. Of course I'll try
 to access the internet wherever I can but,in case of troubles... no
 problem anyway! Before taking off I wish to thank you once more for
 your special  care in my regard.
Farewell and... see you soon
dd

 (
http://www.directionsguides.com/newyork.htm
) e ci ho messo un'ora
soltanto
What is the first word on page 31 of "Directions: New York"?.
;>)
Joe from Massachusetts


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(Povero dd! Ora che č partito, possiamo parlarne un poco. Č partito
senza accorgerse del fatto che a New York le sigarette costano $7, e
che ci sono pochi luoghi pubblici dove si puņ fumare.
"The health-conscious ex-smoker running the City That Never Sleeps has
approved fines of $400 for establishments found flouting the ban in a
campaign which seems aimed at making America's business and
entertainment capital the City That Never Smokes."
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2899719.stm
"By one count, up to 110,000 cartons of untaxed cigarettes are
smuggled into New York City each day..."
http://www.nysun.com/article/29087
Dd camminerą per le strade di New York cercando le sigarette sul
mercato nero, come io una volta camminavo per le strade di Forcella a
Napoli cercando le "americane".)
Buon viaggio, dd.    :>)  meglio forse   :>(((
Joe from Massachusetts

 Buon viaggio, dd.    :>)  meglio forse   :>(((
Grazie e ...terrò duro!
P.S. Did you get my private post?
dd


La scena per me invece fa ricordare "Johnny Stecchino" (Johnny
trafficante di stecche)
Joe from Massachusetts

"dicaduca" ha scritto nel messaggio
[CUT]
Buon viaggio e divertiti!
Quando torni se non ci fai un recensione lunghissima su NY, vado in Canada a 
caccia di foche! :PP
(scherzo)
:-D
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 wrote in message news:7iqBg.1895
[...]
hey you didn't answer to my question: did you receive my letter in private?
dd 

 (scherzo)
umm, humour nero?
dd 

 umm, humour nero?
Si scherza, dai!
:-))))
Tschüss,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
P.S. Se passi da Central Perk salutami Ross, Chandler e compagni! ;-))
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non tenere presente la precedente!!
dd 

 wrote in message
news:LNrBg.64688$zy5.1...@twister1.libero.it...
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Si, ma non funziona. E là, funziona?
Joe from Massachusetts

 :-))))
scherza con le cuoche e lascia star le f....
:)dd 

 scherza con le cuoche e lascia star le f....
Got it!
:-))))
Tschüss,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
P.S. Stasera non guardare CSI NY, che dopo non parti più! :-D
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 che avevano parlato esclusivamente per cinque o sei anni.
Dimenticato completamente la lingua madre. Capperi!
-- 
Enrico C
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http://www.lillathedog.net/icling/dizionari_inglese.html

 
http://www.nysun.com/article/29087
Dove si vendono?
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 were I on my first visit to New York.
Fair enough.
I think you might even need a pc+printer to book an event/trip and print
the "electronic ticket" - receipt of electronic payment.
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 per $20.  :>)
Non sono ancora arrivati i RayBan "originali" made in Naples?
;)
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 to check up on this newsgroup.
Here is some more Usenet web gateways:
www.mynewsgate.net
www.newsland.it
http://groups.google.it/
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http://www.raiclicktv.it/raiclickpc/secure/list_tg.srv?id=1879
Viva la Rai!
Perň i network americani non sono altrettanto generosi, non mettono in
broadband le loro trasmissioni.
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 differenti marchi: "soft", "medium", "hard".
Smart eggs for dumb people?
I mean, just use a damn clock!
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If I tell you, I'll have to kill you.
They are sold In small neighborhood stores or in neighborhood bars,
and the sellers are careful not to sell to anyone they don't know very
well. It is a "word-of-mouth" business. In addition, people who travel
frequently to the South often bring back a few dozen cartons for their
close acquaintances.
Fireworks are illegal in NYC, but I would bet that I could find them
within an hour of arriving in New York.
Joe from Massachusetts

 which is more popular in Germany?
I, for one, am fond of that. We call them "uova a la cocque",  eggs with a
firm white and a still runny yolk. 
I wonder whether I should consider them raw or cooked eggs, as they are
partly raw and partly cooked. Salmonella in Italy is not as serious a
menace as in the States, though. 
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You expect the egg to cluck when it's done?
Ooops, I thought you said "cluck", not "clock'.  :>)
Joe from Massachusetts


The "electronic ticket" for entrance to museums, etc., can be a great
time-saver. I'm glad you brought it up.
The Empire State Building always has a very long line, but you can
purchase tickets on the internet and print them out.
"Patrons may print ten free sheets, and each page
thereafter is ten cents each." (NYPL)
Joe from Massachusetts

  Doesn't need the hussle of signing
"hassle"
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 purchase tickets on the internet and print them out.
That's a nice tip for DD!
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 Ooops, I thought you said "cluck", not "clock'.  :>)
Ha! :)
I was just clucking over them not using the damn clock. Cluck cluck!
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Le risorse disponibili gratis su internet per chi studia l'italiano
sono molto piů numerose delle risorse per qualsiasi altra lingua -
Raiclick Tv, Rai radio, Sapere, Hoepli, Oxford/Paravia, Garzanti.
Noi studenti dell'italiano siamo veramente fortunati.
Joe from Massachusetts


Meglio che guardi "Dopo il TG1" del 29 Maggio.
http://www.raiclicktv.it/raiclickpc/secure/folder.srv?id=2097
Joe from Massachusetts


At one time, my ISP provided very little space for mail, and limited
the size of mail atachments. Then Yahoo USA increased mail space and
increased the permitted size of attachments to 10Mb, but Yahoo USA
required a fee if you wanted Pop 3.
I happened to discover that Yahoo Italia had the same mail advantages
as Yahoo USA, except that Yahoo Italia did not charge a fee for Pop 3.
I signed up for a Yahoo . it account, because I needed to send and
receive many very large files. With one click I could download mail
from several accounts at once.
Yahoo USA still charges a fee for Pop 3.
My ISP has since increased the mail space and the size of file
attachments, so I only use Yahoo Italia occasionally.
Now why would they charge for this service here in the US, but not in
Italy? Any Yahoo USA user with half a brain would switch to Yahoo
Italia. Or maybe I somehow got under the Yahoo radar, and am not
supposed to do this?
Joe from Massachusetts

 
http://www.raiclicktv.it/raiclickpc/secure/folder.srv?id=2097
Bello!
Peccato solo che quella trasmissione duri così poco... accidenti (con 
affetto) a Mimun!
Tschüss,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
P.S. << Sono 32 anni che sto qua... e non so una parola di inglese!>>
:-DDD
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 :-DDD
Non č mai troppo tardi. Forse se potesse vedere il "Divertinglese" su
Raiclick....?
Joe from Massachusetts

 Raiclick....?
Mah, con quello al massimo diventerebbe più rincoglionito.
:-)))))
Tschüss,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
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