Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: O Sole Mio a Torino

Yesterday morning on the NBC network I saw Mayor Chiamparino of Torino
being interviewed by an American journalist. A short clip showing some
features of the city of Torino and environs was shown, accompanied by
the music to "O Sole Mio".  I couldn't help but think of Nino Manfredi
jumping from the train and heading back to Switzerland in the film
"Pane e cioccolato". I have nothing against the music, but somehow it
doesn't seem to match the setting. The choice of music also reveals a
certain lack of knowledge on the part of the producers at NBC.
What music would be appropriate background for this North Italian
winter setting?
The American journalist referred several times to the "Shroud of
Turin", but always said "Torino" when referring to the city. This dual
use is very common here in the US.
Joe from Massachusetts

 winter setting?
Paolo Conte.
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 use is very common here in the US.
Does that also happen with other Italian cities with an English name?
Rome, Naples, Milan, Turin, Florence, Venice...

 Paolo Conte.
O Gipo Farassino, o i Subsonica, o i Fratelli di Soledad, o i Lou Dalfin, o
Umberto Tozzi... :)
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Ciao,
Anna

 Umberto Tozzi... :)
Credo che "Gloria" sia conosciuta all over the world!

 O Gipo Farassino, o i Subsonica, o i Fratelli di Soledad, o i Lou Dalfin, 
Bat this is not (except Gipo) traditional music. For Torino, it could be
"Piemontesina", a traditional organetto musette waltz.
-- 
Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose
(Janis Joplin)
07/02/2006 8.34.29

 O Gipo Farassino, o i Subsonica, o i Fratelli di Soledad, o i Lou Dalfin, 
But this is not (except Gipo) traditional music. For Torino, it could be
"Piemontesina", a traditional organetto musette waltz.
Ricordi quelle sere
passate al Valentino
col biondo studentino 
che ti stringeva sul cuor
io non ti so scordare 
piemontesina bella
sarai la sola stella
che brillerà per me
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Funny you should mention Gipo.
I have heard that the Lega Nazionale Bocce, with its headquarters
there in
Torino, is actively petitioning the IOC to have the game of Bocce
included
in the Summer Olympics, the rationale being that if you can have
Curling in
the Olympics, why not Bocce?
Gipo is an well-known supporter of the Lega.
A well-known confectioner has also promised to lend its support by
coming
out with a new chocolate, to be called "Bocce Perugina".
A frequent contributor to this newsgroup has been working undercover,
using
the code name "Monaca di Monza", lobbying the IOC, and consulting with
various teams of Women's Olympic Beach Volleyball players in an effort
to
find a uniform for the women players which might increase the interest
of
spectators in the sport. This effort may explain her prolonged absence
from
the group.
Joe from Massachusetts


No such luck.
I just this moment saw Katie Couric, the NBC "Today" show host, in
Milan. She's on her way to Torino. She interviewed Beppe Severgnini,
ate some gnocchi and cotoletta alla Milanese (and explained how the
Viennese stole the recipe), and visited La Scala. The music in the
background this time was "Santa Lucia".
I guess tomorrow it will be "Luna Caprese", or "Marechiaro", or maybe
"Turna a Surriento".
Joe from Massachusetts

 "Turna a Surriento".
Aah, questi Americani che non sanno niente di musica folkloristica italiana.
Viva Romagna mia!!!
:-D
Tschüss,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
--
"There are only two kinds of people who really are fascinating - people who 
know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing." (Oscar 
Wilde, The Picture of Dorian Gray) 

 background this time was "Santa Lucia".
I can't understand whether she thought the Olympic games were in Milan, or
she really does think these things are typical Turinese products :)
-- 
Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose
(Janis Joplin)
08/02/2006 20.12.47


It's interesting that the American who interviewed Beppe Severgnini
always said "Torino", while Beppe (who speaks pretty good English)
always said "Turin" (Tyůrin).
Joe from Massachusetts


They don't know anything about Torino, so I guess they thought they
would spend a day or two in Rome, then a day or two in Milan, then
arrive in Torino for the Opening Day ceremonies.
If the TV people had gone straight to Torino, they could have spent
some time in the city, and given us a mini-history, and then could
have gone out to some of the nearby  towns, and given us a good
picture of the area. So far, all we see is the ego of the presenters,
and nothing of Torino.
Joe from Massachusetts

 They don't know anything about Torino
Nel mio post precedente ho scritto "she" credendo di aver letto che la
giornalista che seguivi in TV fosse una donna, appunto. Mi accorgo che era
un mio errore.
-- 
Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose
(Janis Joplin)
08/02/2006 20.36.40

 -- 
There is a whole crew on their way, and I was referring to them in
general. It was a woman, Katie Couric, who interviewed Beppe. The
working crews for NBC have already arrived in Torino, but the divos
and divas like to arrive at the last moment, so they'll be noticed.
Joe from Massachusetts

 always said "Turin" (Tyůrin).
An (on the scrounge) ABC News anchorwoman, interwieing some women
hockey players from the US olympic team, said "Turin". 
-- 
Enrico C
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 olympic team
"Olympic team"

 always said "Turin" (Tyùrin).
When I happened to talk on Skype to some English native speakers, I always 
said the names of Italian cities in English (Florence, Venice, Rome, Milan, 
Naples....), and soon after that my interlocutor would repeat those names 
translating them in Italian.
:-)))
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Katie Couric was scheduled to co-host the opening ceremonies for NBC,
but she has been replaced by the newscaster Brian Williams.  Maybe
that's why she's in no hurry to get to Torino.
Joe from Massachusetts


Didn't he do "Te la do io, l'America"? Or was that some other Beppe?
:>)
Maybe someone should have put together something similar,
like "Te lo do io, Torino", targetting the American audience.
It is amazing how much New York has changed since Beppe did that film.
Joe from Massachusetts

 It is amazing how much New York has changed since Beppe did that film.
Aaah, that was Beppe Grillo!
http://www.archivio.raiuno.rai.it/schede/0061/006145.htm
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I saw the program on Raiclick Web about a year ago.
The scenes around 42nd Street and Times Square portrayed a rather
squalid side of New York, but that area has undergone a renaissance.
The dealers peddling drugs on the streets, seemingly with impunity,
and the many x-rated bookstores and night clubs have disappeared, and
have been replaced by new theaters, hotels, restaurants and other
businesses. "Toys R Us" and the "Disney" store attract the children.
MTV broadcasts from Times Square. I often stay in hotels in or near
Times Square when I visit the city. Walking through Times Square
around the Christmas holidays, you can hear dozens of languages. Not
far from there is an area now known as "Little Korea", which didn't
exist 25 years ago.
Beppe could come back and do another film showcasing the amazing
changes, if he doesn't go to jail. :>)
Joe from Massachusetts


Today when I tuned into the program, the divos had finally arrived in
Torino, and were sampling "bicerin", accompanied by the music of
Andrea Bocelli (singing in English).
Joe from Massachusetts

 asked by the American singer Jon Bon Jovi [cut]
... who, by the way, happens to be son of Italian immigrants.
Jon Bon Jovi = Giovanni Bongiovanni
:-)
Massimo.


I found the lyrics (grazie ai Furlani).
http://www.istrianet.org/istria/music/lyrics/lyrics-lat3.htm
And a very good mp3 (right-click to download) (grazie ai Bresciani).
http://www.comune.sarezzo.bs.it/rsa/cdmusicale/06-piemontesina.mp3
I'll add these to my collection.
Joe from Massachusetts