Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Pronuncia di "Jeremy Irons" (was: a proposito di nomi stranieri)

 divertivo a guastarle l'idillio chiamadolo Geremia Ferri.
Mi intrometto per parlare di tutt'altro: come si pronuncia il cognome
"Irons"? Come se fosse il plurale della parola "ferro", perciň /ai&ns/, o
come se non avesse nessun collegamento con questa parola, perciň, immagino,
/air&ns/ (& ==> schwa).
Ciao, FB
-- 
"Nasalization is just a part of life"
(Joey DoWop Dee on it.cultura.linguistica.inglese)

 /air&ns/ (& ==> schwa).
/ai&nz/ e /air&nz/, in ogni caso, no?
Ciao, FB
-- 
"Gli americani sono ignoranti per loro stessa natura"
that is "The Americans are naturally ignorant"
(Paolo Bonardi on it.cultura.linguistica)

 /ai&nz/ e /air&nz/, in ogni caso, no?
/ai&nz/  Si'.
/air&nz/ No.
-- 
The foregoing is my opinion, and my opinion alone. It is intended to
demonstrate modern American English -- colloquial and spoken, (but well
spoken) for the most part; not literary American English. Ergo, caveat
lector. (No, not you, Hannibal)
Oh, if you feel the need to e-mail me, un-not my address first.

 
Io direi /ai&rnz/.  Al mio orecchio /ai&nz/ sarebbe "ions"
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Io direi /ai&rnz/.  Al mio orecchio /ai&nz/ sarebbe "ions"
tutto ma dimenticatevi la 'r'...
dopo mesi che, da bravo italiano, pronunciavo iron, ironing facendo
sentire la 'r' un aussie che frequentavo me lo disse...
--
pigmalion at home
http://www.pigmalion.info/

 (& ==> schwa).
Pronuncia di cognomi, altre due richieste:
Jay McInerney
Pat Metheny
Grazie.
-- 
oggi no, domani sì

Jay McInerney
Bright Lights, Big City!
Il mio prof - californiano - lo pronunciava sempre, mi venisse in
mente come. L'accento era sulla prima e. Il tutto molto stretto,
qualcosa di simile a /m@c'nerni/
Sebastiano

 Pat Metheny
Puň interessarti anche quella di Ralph Fiennes? /fainz/ non č niente, in
confronto a /reif/. Penso di averlo letto qui su icling.
Ciao, FB
-- 
Mrs. Palmer, in her way, was equally angry. 'She was determined to drop his
acquaintance immediately, and she was very thankful that she had never been
acquainted with him at all'. (Jane Austen)

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"In a knee" sarebbe in BritEng, quindi, tranne che per l'accento.
Ciao, FB
-- 
Io ho deciso di rifiutarmi di vederlo: Ettore con la faccia di Eric Banana
mi fa venire i conati.
(commento sul film "Troy" su it.fan.scrittori.tolkien)

 qui su icling.
Sì, certo, perché no?
Nel mio vecio vocabolario c'è in fondo una sezione sui nomi 
propri (toponimi e cognomi), adesso la consulto.
(scusate le vocali scritte non standard, cerco di 
arrangiarmi in qualche modo, 
a di bad, e di bed, i di stick, o di not, u di but)
Wriothesley: rotsli
Worcester: wooster
Southwark: sudherk o sowthwerk
Rothesay: rothsay, famil. rotsi
Roosevelt: rosevelt o rozvelt, raramente ru:svelt
Raleigh: rawli o ra:li o reli
Pontefract: pontifract o pumfrit
Plymouth: plimuth
Orleans: orlianz, popol. orli:nz
Norwich: norij, amer. norwich
Marylebone: marileboun o -bun
Marlborough: ma:rlboru o mawlbru
Los Angeles: angiliz o anjiliz
Hereford: herife~d
Harwich: harij
Greenwich: grinij
Chicago: ingl. shika:go, amer. shikogow
Berkeley: ba:rkli
Beowulf: bayowoolf
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 Worcester: wooster
Abbiamo una Worcester nello stato di Massachusetts che si pronuncia
"wistah."
Anche "Leicester" = "lestah"
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 Ciao, FB
And in AmEng it's pronounced "MAK-in-Ern-ee" with the primary accent on MAK
and a secondary accent on Ern. It almost sounds like "Mack an' Ernie" if
you were answering the following question:
Did you go with Frank and Ernie?
No, MACK an' Ernie.
As for Pat, it's "m&-THEEN-ee"
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 Anche "Leicester" = "lestah"
From "L'inglese. Nuove lezioni semiserie" di Beppe Severgnini:
"Belvoir" ==> "Beevir"
"Beauchamp" ==> "Beechum"
I quoted by heart, and the transcriptions are mine (what did I quote,
then?).
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Anche "Leicester" = "lestah"
 
Sono di Leicester !! Avete una Leicester li? in america?

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Si', come dicevo; nello stato di Massachusetts (dove sono nato) si trova
nel centro dello stato, presso a Worcester.
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http://www.ci.leicester.ma.us/
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Si', come dicevo; <snip>
Senz'altro, scusa la domanda stupida.


http://www.ci.leicester.ma.us/
"Name Leicester was finally settled upon, after Leicester, England
where the father of the first Selectman, Thomas Green, had originated
from"
New Leicester!

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Non l'ho presa come domanda stupida. Non ti castigavo... solo volevo
continuare la discussione.
I dico sempre ai miei "studenti": Non ci sono domande stupide; ci sono
soltanto domande alle quali non hai ricevuto risposta.
(I have no idea if that's right. I can say it in English:
There are no stupid questions; there are only questions you haven't had
answered yet. :)
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answered yet. :)
Yes, but I asked a question that you had already answered :)
BTW "students" are you a teacher? or do you just mean students in
here.

 here.
Sure you did, but I took it as a rhetorical re-introduction of a topic for
which you wanted more information. (How's that for a save?) :)
As for my students, I'm a self-employed computer tutor. I teach computer
skills to seniors, or as I call them (hoping the flatter the sh*t out of
them): "kids over 40."
I call my company "The Old School - friendly, personal-computer training
for kids over 40"
It's not making me rich, but I'm enjoying it.
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"jonny" <j...@jj.jj> wrote in message
news:qao8e0tscmnvmoits...@4ax.com...
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Una trentina di chilometri da casa mia!
È ben conosciutà nel mondo del cinema. :>)
http://www.drive-ins.com/theater/matleic
C'è anche Dorchester (Dàwchesta), Manchester (Mànchesta), Quincy
(Quìnzee), Roxbury (Ròxberry)
Joe from Massachusetts

 
I always say, "I've never heard a stupid question, but I've
sure heard a lot of stupid answers."
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The sign above the door reads:
"Once I get my hands on your floppies, you'll never be the same".
Joe from Massachusetts
Joe from Massachusetts

 Sono di Leicester !! 
Ma va? Dove?
Io vengo da Birstall.
-- 
Mary

 (Quìnzee), Roxbury (Ròxberry)
I was bawn in Dawchesta.
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Wow! small world. I'm in Wigston at present, but I was brought up off
Groby Rd near New Parks. I know Birstall well, as I do most of
Leicester. I used to cycle up by the canal to Birstall, there's a pub
by the canal there, the name escapes me. Quite a nice place Birstall,
do you miss it all? any regrets? I bet the Indian curries aren't as
nice over there :)
btw: I been on me hols, that's why I'm a bit late replying.

 btw: I been on me hols, that's why I'm a bit late replying.
Bin to Skeggie, have ya, me duck?
-- 
Mary

 No, in fact they're really hard to come by in the Milan area.
Me lo sono sognato che vivi a Torino?
Ciao, FB
-- 
L'importante è che risplenda tu, sola primadonna e immarcescibile leggenda
del tuo pianerottolo.
(Lucangel su it.cultura.libri)

 Me lo sono sognato che vivi a Torino?
Abito nel Biellese, esattamente a metà strada tra Milano e Torino, ma
quando vado nella grande città vado sempre a Milano, che conosco bene
perché ho vissuto lì per anni.
-- 
Mary

 btw: I been on me hols, that's why I'm a bit late replying.
Didja go anywhere fun?
-- 
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 perché ho vissuto lì per anni.
I had one of the most beautiful experiences of my life in Biella on my
first trip to Italy in 1981. Great memories!
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If you feel the need to e-mail me, un-not my address first.

 first trip to Italy in 1981. Great memories!
Dai, racconta!
-- 
Mary

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It's a long story, but you asked... :)
I was with four friends on a free-wheeling tour; rental car, no hotel or
pensione reservations made in advance; vague plans to "see the whole
country" in two weeks. We started in the North, Cernobbio; then on to
Venezia. The next stop was to be Florence. On the morning of our departure
from Venice to Florence, Karen (one of the girls in the group; and she was
a girl then! :) announced that she had promised to take a birthday present
to the mother of a friend back home. Her friend's mother lives in Biella so
she figured we could just "swing by on our way to Florence."
We were a little "miffed", to euphemize the situation, (remember: we had no
set plans; we had to get to Florence, figure our where we would be staying
and all we had was "Italy on $5 a Day" or something like that) but Karen
insisted, and we agreed to get to Biella quickly, pay our (quick) respects,
and leave right away for Florence.
We were a little late arriving; we called them and told them we planned to
arrive late morning, but we got there just about 1:30 in the afternoon. We
were greeted by the Birthday Girl's father, who barely spoke English, and
welcomed into the apartment. (One of the other girls in the group is from
Bari, so we didn't have much of a problem communicating; plus I was eager
to try out my Italian.)
But we sat for quite a while, wondering where the Woman of Honor was; all
this time we heard what sounded like dishes being washed, etc., coming from
the kitchen. We began to wonder why she was doing dishes while we sat
waiting; we figured they had just had Sunday dinner (they had), but
couldn't the dishes wait until after we left? Plus, by now, we were
starting to get hungry.
Eventually she appeared in the doorway, all smiles, greeted us, and waved
us into the dining room. Not only had she already prepared a dinner for her
family (and cleaned up after it) but she managed to provide us with a
five-course dinner, better than anything we could have hoped to get on the
highway to Florence.
The meal was lovely and I had great fun conversing with them. We felt so
much at home that the time went by very quickly. After dinner, instead of
rushing off we went outside to see the rabbits and doves they were
raising... walked a bit around the property... No one of us wanted to
leave, and by now it was dark!
By the time we left, we felt as though we were leaving family. I've never
forgotten the generosity and warmth they extended. I still remember both of
their smiles... smiling eyes, smiling faces.
I'm getting pelle d'oca just thinking about it now.
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Didja go anywhere fun?
Cornwall, me heartie, ooh aah :-)

Bin to Skeggie, have ya, me duck?
No duck, Cornwall :-))