Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: differenza tra Security e Safety???

Buon giorno vorrei sapere al differenza tra Security e Safety - quando
si usa uno e/o l'altro..
esempio per le scale di sicurezza ?? - non di emergenza..

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Interessava un po' anche a me, ma nessuno ha ancora risposto. Per ora
ho trovato questo, vedi se può esserti utile:
"There is an important difference between safety and security,
although there is an overlap. Safe is when you check all your windows
before going to sleep at night to ensure that your house is unlikely
to be broken into - secure is when you shutter them because you know
there are thieves in the neighbourhood.
In transport terms, this simply means that safe is about operations,
and secure is about prevention..." 
http://www.tssa.org.uk/article-62.php3?id_article=2581
"The difference between actual safety and perceived security can, at
times, be extremely tenuous.
Viewed at a basic level, "safety" could be defined as the mechanics of
that which makes us safe; whether police on the beat, community
policing in the region, government programs to prevent disaster, or
armed forces protection the population from outside attack.
A sense of security or trust, on the other hand, could be viewed as
the level of trust citizens have in the actions/programs being
performed to make them safe. This perception can be influenced by
personal experience, word-of-mouth, media reports, cultural
viewpoints, apparent bias, etc. For example, in North America, while
general crime statistics show an overall lowering in the rates of
crime, there is a common perception that crime is actually becoming a
more serious problem.
As such, there's no guarantee a safety program will promote a sense of
security in the citizens unless it is accompanied by several
elements"  
http://www.habitatjam.com/jamdata/viewtopic.php?t=5011934&sid=c86fcae33f0f068d5fc0e45ba8c0c18a
"I think there is a difference between safety and security in a couple
of ways. Safety in terms of thinking about it, it's really being
certain that adverse effects will not be caused by some agent under
defined conditions. (...) One of the difficulties, I think, with
security has been that it's not only being free from danger and
injury, it's also being free from anxiety and fear."
http://commerce.senate.gov/hearings/testimony.cfm?id=1608&wit_id=3971
Di qualche utilità? Nel tuo caso comunque utilizzerei
"safety" ("safety ladder" se ti riferisci ad una scala a pioli non
pericolosa)
Ciao, Claudia

 "There is an important difference between safety and security,
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What a mess :-)
I think something is safe if it keeps behaving as expected in presence 
of casual "attacks" (weather, ...), while it is secure if it can sustain 
intentional attacks.
Kiuhnm

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A security system installed in your home can help quell any fears you may
have about the safety of your family.
Joe from Massachusetts

 have about the safety of your family.
I was speaking of "safe" and "secure", not of "safety" and "security".
Kiuhnm

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My dictionary says that a place is secure if it is safe from harm or 
attack. Strange.
Kiuhnm

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Nel caso delle scale antiincendio, e in generale della sicurezza
antiincendio e dell'antiinfortunistica, credo si parli sempre di "safety".
-- 
"And the whole Earth was of one language, and of one speech". 
(Genesis 11,1)

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Your home will be secure if you have an alarm system to keep your family
safe from intruders.
Joe from Massachusetts

 esempio per le scale di sicurezza ?? - non di emergenza..
Così a naso direi che safety si riferisce all'incolumità/prevenzione 
infortuni, mentre security alla riservatezza/provvedimenti 
antiintrusione.
saluti,
Peltio
che il problema di tradurli in italiano quando appaiono tutti e due 
rimane.
Perifrasi!
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 safe from intruders.
Ok, forget my first objection and notice that you used "secure" and 
"safe" with two different meanings (roughly speaking, "secure" = that 
protect/that is protected, "safe" = that is protected).
My "definition" doesn't (try to) apply to the latter meaning.
Kiuhnm