Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Corretto?

Fate had me playing in love you as my sweet heart
Ho provato a trudarla cosě, secondo voi č corretta?
Il destino mi stava giocando innamorandomi di te dolcezza (o tesoro).
Ciao.

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L'originale č espresso abbastanza male.
Presumo che significhi "il destino mi ha fatto recitare la parte
dell'innamorato, con te nel ruolo della mia morosa".
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Mary

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I agree, the original makes no sense.
Joe from Massachusetts

I agree, the original makes no sense.
Neppure la versione italiana ha un senso logico.
Che cosa significa "il destino mi stava giocando innamorandomi"? 
Ari

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L'inglese non è corretto.
Fate had me playing in love (qui manca qualcosa) you as my sweet heart
Se l'inglese non è logico, anche la traduzione sarà illogica.
Se l'inglese fosse diverso,
Fate had me playing at love, with you as my sweet heart.
( to play at = to do something without taking it seriously, to do
something frivolously) (Oxford Eng. dictionary).
"Playing in love" non fa senso.
o
Fate had me playing the (role of) lover, with you as my sweetheart
(playing the role of sweetheart). (Come dice Mary, in italiano).
Ma la frase originale non è corretto. Sembra inutile indovinare i
pensieri dello scrittore.
Joe from Massachusetts

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 Ciao e grazie.
Ora capisco! Rispondo con due parole: "Louie, Louie".
http://www.louielouie.net/11-fbi.htm
:>)
Joe from Massachusetts

 Scusate dovevo precisare che trattavasi di una canzone.
Fancy that, it comes from Elvis Presley's "Are you lonesome tonight",
and I didn't recognise it.
There should be a comma after "love", and "sweetheart" is all one word.
-- 
Mary


That's what I also thought when I saw it.  However, when I plugged the whole
sentence into google, I got 335 returns for sweet heart and only 7 for
sweetheart.  Well, what can I say, that's Elvis for you...It's still not as bad
as "you ain't nothing but a hound dog" or "I'm all shook up"
bye
GFC

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Manca una virgola, credo. "Fate had me playing in love, [with] you as my 
sweetheart."
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Un-not my address if you wanna reply.

Joey DoWop Dee wrote:
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Excuse my curiosity, but are you and joscurtin ("Joe from Massacchusets"
the same person posting under two different addresses, or two different
people?
-- 
Mary

, Mary Cassidy says...
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We are two different people! (This is why I usually preface my posts with 
"AmEng Joe here." I didn't this time, however.
I'm originally from Massachusetts and now live in New York. 
(Joe Di Domenico)
Joe from Massachusetts is originally from New York and now lives in 
Massachusetts! (Joseph Curtin -- I think; correct me if I'm wrong, Joe.:)
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 Massachusetts! (Joseph Curtin -- I think; correct me if I'm wrong, Joe.:)
LOL! Never intersected in RL ?
-- 
Maria Luisa C - 12/04/04 18.44.16, here.
(please, point out my English errors)

 
We probably passed each other a dozen times on the road, but didn't know 
it. :-)
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 We are two different people! 
Sorry, I obviously haven't been paying attention; I was convinced you
were one and the same :-)
-- 
Mary

 Un-not my address if you wanna reply.
Even better with  "Fate had me playing 'in love', [with] you as my 
 sweetheart."
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 "Playing in love" non fa senso.
I noticed that, wow :)))))
anyway, I doubt we can try to explain the whole sentence since
the author *probably* wrote a wrong sencence.
After all I don't even know who the author is so... :)
anyway, in Italian there's a distinction between "fare senso" and
"avere (un) senso", when the first sentence means "to make somebody
feel disgust/sick" the other means "to make sense"
for instance:
1) Il sangue mi fa senso (it disturbs me)
2) Mario è una persona viscida, mi fa senso (he makes me sick)
3) Devo ammettere che il tuo ragionamento ha un senso (it makes sense)
I hope you found it interesting (despite the loathings) :)))))


Allora sarebbe corretto dire: "La frase <bere l'acqua del lago fa
senso> ha un senso, anche se l'acqua del lago non fa mica senso"?  :>)
Joe from Massachusetts

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I believe we are distinct personalities. The difference should be
obvious, since I prefer baccalà with polenta, while AmEng Joe favors
baccalà with tomatoes.  :>)
Joe from Massachusetts

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You are correct. My Italian friends used to call me "Peppino di New
York", but I guess you have co-opted that one. :>)
Joe from Massachusetts

senso> ha un senso, anche se l'acqua del lago non fa mica senso"?  :>)
LOL
Sebastiano
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No wonder people say "gesundheit" when you say "Tchaikovsky".

 senso> ha un senso, anche se l'acqua del lago non fa mica senso"?  :>)
si ma mi ci hai fatto perdere dieci minuti buoni solo a leggere,
figurati se me l'avessi detta a parole, lol :-)))

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Cosi non dimenticherò mai queste due parole!
Una volta lavoravo con un gruppo di ingegneri francesi e italiani, su
un sistema radio a microonde.
Uno dei francesi mi parlava alla radio, e mi disse, in francese,
"Dites aux italiens que nous voulons controller le seuil"
(..."vogliamo controllare 'le seuil' ").
Informai gl'italiani che i francesi volevano controllare "le seuil",
(parola francese che non conoscevo).
"Cosa vuol dire 'seuil'"? , chiesi agli italiani.
"Soglia", mi risposero.
"Ma cosa significa 'soglia'", risposi.
Uno degli italiani mi prese la mano, mi condusse alla porta, e mi
indicò la soglia.
Finalmente avevo capito, e dissi "Oh, the threshold! He wants to check
the threshold of the receivers!"
"Le seuil", "la soglia", "the threshold", è il livello minimo di
segnale al quale fonziona un ricevitore radio.
The "threshhold" is the minimum signal level at which a radio receiver
functions.
I learned the meaning of "threshold" in both French and Italian at the
same time, and can never forget when and how I learned it.
Spero che questa storia non fa senso, è che invece ha un certo senso.
Also, I hope it doesn't exceed the threshold of your patience. :>)))
Joe from Massachusetts

 
LOL
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 Also, I hope it doesn't exceed the threshold of your patience. :>)))
ahahahahha :))))
May I call you "wizard of words"? :)