Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: cranberry, blackcurrant, blueberry

Chi mi sa aiutare a tradurli in italiano (sperando che ci sia una
distinzione per ciascun frutto) ?
blackcurrant dovrebbe essere ribes nero. Mentre uno degli altri due dovrebbe
essere mirtillo. Giusto ?
Ringrazio anticipatamente,
Giambattista

essere mirtillo. Giusto ?
blackcurrant	ribes nero
cranberry	mirtillo palustre
blueberry	mirtillo. in UK se non erro è bilberry
Altri berries:
bearberry	uva orsina
bilberry	mirtillo 
blaeberry	mirtillo
blackberry	mora
bramble-berry	mora di rovo
cloudberry	un tipo di bacca da rovo, non credo abbia un nome in
italiano
cowberry	uva di monte, vite idea, vite d'orso, mirtillo rosso.
dewberry	mora di rovo
dogberry	frutto della sanguinella
elderberry	drupa di sambuco
fen-berry	mirtillo palustre
foxberry	uva di monte, vite idea, vite d'orso, mirtillo rosso.
gooseberry	uva spina (anche goosegog)
huckleberry	mirtillo americano
lingonberry	uva di monte, vite idea/d'oro, mirtillo rosso.
mulberry	mora di gelso
poke-berry	bacca della fitolacca
		uva d'America, uva turca/sanguinella, fitolacca.
raspberry	lampone (detto anche razz)
rowan-berry	sorba selvatica
soap-berry	sapindo
spindle berry	frutto del evnonimo
sqaw-berry	bacca commestibile di vari arbusti, tra cui l'uva
ursina.
whortleberry	mirtillo
Remember, not all the berries are good. I've been told that
dingleberries taste like shit.
Sebastiano

 essere mirtillo. Giusto ?
Il "blueberry" è, ehm, blu, mentre il "cranberry" è rosso, ma entrambi sono
mirtilli (i dizionari segnalano diversi altri nomi sinonimi di
"blueberry").
Non è la prima volta che noto che, nonostante sia la cucina italiana a
essere tanto decantata, gli inglesi sono particolarmente precisi nel
chiamare ciò che mangiano, senza contare, ovviamente, le differenze tra
l'inglese britannico e l'americano.
Ciao, FB
-- 
Mrs. Palmer, in her way, was equally angry. 'She was determined to drop his
acquaintance immediately, and she was very thankful that she had never been
acquainted with him at all'.

 italiano
Burberry?
Bye, FB
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Burberry?
Č un tessuto. Č anche una bacca?
Sebastiano

essere mirtillo. Giusto ?
(Black)Currant
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/dictionaries/animalsplants/data/m0010808.html
genus Ribes, family Grossulariaceae
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/genus%20ribes
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/family%20Grossulariaceae
Ribes Nero
Con Cranberry e Blueberry iniziano i problemi di distinzione... :)
Cranberry
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/dictionaries/animalsplants/data/m0010803.html
Genus Vaccinium, family Ericaceae.
Blueberry
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/reference/dictionaries/animalsplants/data/m0028504.html
Genus Vaccinium, family Ericaceae.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/family%20Ericaceae
http://www.dipbot.unict.it/sistematica/Eric_fam.html
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/genus%20Vaccinium
Partendo da qui:
http://plantsdatabase.com/b/Ericaceae/Vaccinium/
Cercando con Google con keywords i nomi latini dei vari frutti e
pagine solo in italiano puoi arrivare a qualcosa, per esempio:
Vaccinium Macrocarpon (Cranberry): Mirtillo Americano,  Mirtillo Rosso
Americano
Vaccinium vitis-idaea (Mountain Cranberry): Uva di Monte, Mirtillo
Rosso
Vaccinium oxycoccos (Small Cranberry, European Cranberry, Bog
Cranberry)): Mirtillo Palustre
e via di seguito :)
Puoi anche provare questo PDF:
http://www.compagniadelleforeste.it/SHERWOOD/AulaMagna/File/AulaMagna2.PDF
'bye

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Sě, e Alec Guinness č una birra.
Ciao, FB
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Sě, e Alec Guinness č una birra.
Alec no, ma Guinness sě. :)
Sebastiano

 dingleberries taste like shit.
Una lista impressionante, ma... sbaglio o hai dimenticato il frutto più
comune fra le varie "berry"...? LA FRAGOLA!
DdJ

 
Exactly *where* did you spend time in NYC??? I must remember to avoid 
that part of town!  8-p
-- 
I am Joey's Cat
Un-not my address, too, if you wanna reply.

comune fra le varie "berry"...? LA FRAGOLA!
L'ho tralasciato perchè non è una berry, ovvero una bacca. Ci sono
anche alberi che finiscono con berry e che non ho messo. E altri che
avrò dimenticato.
Sebastiano

I must remember to avoid that part of town!  8-p
^_^
Sebastiano

 I forgot to go to Nathan's in Coney Island, though.
Too bad, because in addition to those great Nathan's hot dogs, Coney
Island has a nice beach, a beautiful Aquarium, and a lot of Russians
in the area of Brighton Beach, which is sometimes called "Little
Odessa". That would be the place to hang out, if you were studying
Russian.
I'll bet the cat doesn't go to Nathan's. He just goes up on the roof
and catches pigeons. I don't think they allow him to keep a pigeon
coop on the roof in that exclusive area where he lives. He has to
depend on the passing bird for his sustenance.
Joe from Massachusetts

 Joe from Massachusetts
 
Hey, bite your tongue! The cat loves Coney Island and Nathan's. The cat 
is a fan of wooden roller-coasters (having spent his summers in Nantasket 
and cutting his teeth on the "Longest and Fastest Roller Coaster in the 
World" -- or so they claimed.) Rode it a dozen times his first time out. 
It burned to the ground a long time ago, and he thinks the entire 
amusement park is now Condominiums.
  [Which reminds me: Did you hear about the Italian-American
   guy from Nantasket who threw away his wife's birth-control
   pills because they bought a condominium?]
Went to Coney Island last summer again... can't wait for the place to 
come alive. Seems I'm going to miss the Mermaid Parade this year, drat! 
Last year was a hoot (even though it rained cats (hooray!) and dogs 
(boo!) (and yes, there were "poodles in the street"):
http://nosebleed.com/brooklynbizzarro/coney/mer2003.html
Ate at Nathan's, rode the Cyclone twice, spoke "nemnozhka pa rooski" and 
got a great sunburn. What a life!
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 Hey, bite your tongue! The cat loves Coney Island and Nathan's.
Do they allow pigeon coops in your neighborhood, or is that only for
the folks over in Hell's Kitchen?
Joe from Massachusetts

In article <GISoc.145213$f_5.132306@lakeread01>, joscurtin wrote...
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I actually don't know... this is the first place I've lived in NYC where 
I *haven't* seen flocks of pigeons doing their thing over the city. I 
don't know, though, do you think it's a regulation thing? I was on the 
Upper West Side my first year here and there were all kinds of coops 
there. Also in the Village.
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I remember Jimmy Smits' character in "NYPD Blue" was always up on the
roof tending to "his birds".
It is probably a regulatory thing. Maybe they only allow pigeon coops
in cat-olic neighborhoods.
Joe from Massachusetts
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 accent. It must be that beak-like mouth.
Duck bill mate, duck bill. A beak is pointy.
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 in cat-olic neighborhoods.
Ba-dum-bum. I am, of course, Cat-o-lick.
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I stand corrected. Your pointy is well taken.
Joe from Massachusetts

 in cat-olic neighborhoods.
Maybe they only allow cops' pigeons.
 
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 Ba-dum-bum. I am, of course, Cat-o-lick.
Not a dog-mat-tick, I hope.
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 Joe from Massachusetts
:-) Glad to hear it. Keep beavering away.
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Maybe if you told the neighborhood association that you wanted to put
up a pigeon co-op, rather than a pigeon coop, you might get around the
rules?
Joe from Massachusetts
Joe from Massachusetts

depend on the passing bird for his sustenance.
He lives on cooing animals. Whoa. :)
Sebastiano

In article <q9Xoc.145622$f_5.89352@lakeread01>, joscurtin wrote...
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You talk about "regulations"... co-ops are the worst.
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Perhaps, then a dovecote?
Joe from Massachusetts