Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Orderlies & housekeeping

Dear All,
che differenza c'è tra queste due categorie, in un ospedale?
"A majority of the personnel were hospital employees: doctors, nurses,
orderlies, housekeeping."
Se 'orderlies' sono gli inservienti, chi fa 'housekeeping'? Non si tratta
sempre di pulizie?
TIA
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Ciao,
Anna

Anna Martini wrote:
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Forse gli "orderlies" portano le cose da un posto all'altro.

 orderlies, housekeeping."
che siano inservienti, cioč una figura diversa dal janitor che fa meno di
un un'infermiera ma comunque ha qualche contatto col paziente. 
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Quelli dell'housekeeping potrebbero essere 'addetti alla manutenzione'?
Sull'American Heritage trovo, sotto housekeeping:
"Management and maintenance of the property and equipment of an institution
or organization."
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Ciao,
Anna

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An orderly is a person whose duties involve direct contact with
patients. He is responsible for assisting the staff with moving
patients, and may also be involved in other duties, such as bathing
patients. The duties of orderlies are similar to PCAs (Patient Care
Assistants). Duties vary from hospital to hospital. In facilities
involving mental patients, some of whom may be prone to violence,
orderlies are responsible for restraining patients when they cause
problems. In this latter case, orderlies are usually very large men.
Housekeeping personnel are involved strictly with the cleanliness of
the facility, and will not have any contact with patients. They may
not even be employees of the hospital, but of a cleaning firm
contracted by the hospital.
Joe from Massachusetts

 contracted by the hospital.
Perciň, riguardo a questa definizione di Housekeeping dell'American
Heritage: "Management and maintenance of the property and equipment of an
institution or organization", per "management and maintenance" devo
intendere esclusivamente 'pulizia'? Non č anche 'manutenzione'?
Grazie ancora.
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Ciao,
Anna


Credo che il termine tecnico per designare queste persone, secondo il
contratto di lavoro ospedaliero, sia "ausiliari". Ma non è il modo in
cui sono chiamati normalmente dai non addetti ai lavori... [Anzi, gli
"ausiliari" più conosciuti sono di tutt'altro genere: gli "ausiliari
del traffico", che multano chi parcheggia sulle strisce blu senza
avere il permesso o senza pagare.] 
 
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 avere il permesso o senza pagare.] 
D'accordo, ma se parlo del personale di un ospedale e dico: "medici,
infermieri, ausiliari, inservienti..." credo sia improbabile fraintendere,
no? :)
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Ciao,
Anna

 contratto di lavoro ospedaliero, sia "ausiliari".
Questo almeno quanto mi ha detto una persona che dovrebbe saperlo... 
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 che differenza c'č tra queste due categorie, in un ospedale?
http://www.calmis.ca.gov/file/occguide/NURSEAID.HTM
NURSING AIDES AND ORDERLIES
[...]
Orderlies, sometimes called patient care orderlies or patient escorts,
work in acute care hospitals and are trained by the hospital to
perform the following tasks:
    * Transport patients and equipment to and from wards and
departments in hospitals.
    * Assist nurses with patients and, if necessary, restrain
patients.
    * Set up equipment, such as oxygen tents and portable x-ray
machines.
    * Transport patients to areas such as operating and x-ray rooms.
    * Sterilize equipment and supplies.
    * Transport bodies to the morgue from nursing areas.
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As far as I know, Orderlies are those guys who wheel patients around
and stuff like that.  They do the heavy work that nurses can't do. They
don't have any housekeeping duties.
bye
ari

 don't have any housekeeping duties.
Grazie anche a te, Ari. Mi sono confusa perché il dizionario dà
"inservienti" per Orderlies mentre in questo caso si tratta di "ausiliari".
Ora è tutto chiaro. E... te l'ho già detto, buon anno?
Buon anno! :-)
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Ciao,
Anna

 "inservienti" per Orderlies
Mai fidarsi del dizionario. :) 
L'Oxford Paravia online, per esempio, traduce "cutlet" solo con
cotoletta, come carne, mentre può essere anche una costoletta.
Immagino gli equivoci al ristorante...!
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Maintenance and housekeeping are two separate categories.
In the US, most large hospitals have much of the work not directly
related to patient care contracted out to outside companies.
Housekeeping and linen services would be handled by one contractor.
Facilities maintenance would be handled by another contractor, who
would take care of repairs, plumbing, heating, air conditioning,
gardening, etc. Food services would also probably be contracted out,
although hospital staff would closely supervise menus and food
preparation. The food service contractor not only provides food for
patients, but also dining facilities where visitors can get a meal
(for a fee) when they visit the hospital.
Most hospitals also have unpaid volunteers who assist in a variety of
ways. These volunteers are sometimes called "candy stripers", because
of the striped uniform they originally wore.
Joe from Massachusetts


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Another note about orderlies.
If a patient who is not fully ambulatory has to be assisted out of bed
to sit in a chair, the nurse must call an orderly to perform the task.
Joe from Massachusetts

 to sit in a chair, the nurse must call an orderly to perform the task.
Thanks a lot for all the useful information! You really are a resource :-)
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Ciao,
Anna

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Si' grazie...same to you.
How are things in your neck of the woods?  Busy?  Here we are being
subjected to the Torino the weather report every day!  I get cold just
listening to it.  And by the way, now it's always "Torino", never
"Turin".  
bye
ari

 "Turin".  
Oh, well!
We are all a bit worried here in "Torino": nothing seems *really* ready
yet.
But we'll survive somehow, I guess :)
I have tickets for the Ice Dance, february 20th, Palazzo a Vela. It *has*
to be great, considering the (stratospheric) price. I hope I shall be able
to tell you something *zestful* on the 21st :)
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Ciao,
Anna

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I wonder how many tourists will visit the Museum of the Shroud of
Turin when they are in Torino for the Olympics?
I can't imagine myself saying "the Shroud of Torino", nor can I
imagine saying the "Turin Olympics".
Joe from Massachusetts

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Another great mystery is why the football team is called "Milan", and
not "Milano".
Joe from Massachusetts


AFAIK, it was created by English people, just like Genoa (not Genova)
Marquigia
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 AFAIK, it was created by English people, just like Genoa (not Genova)
True!
The club was founded in 1899 as the Milan Cricket and Football Club by
Alfred Edwards and Herbert Kilpin, British expatriates. In honour of its
origins, the club has retained the English spelling of its city's name,
instead of changing it to the Italian Milano; it should be noted that the
current Italian pronunciation is actually MEE-lahn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.C._Milan
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Ciao,
Anna

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I thought it might have been some sort of a Piedmontese affectation on
the part of the Lombards. :>)
Joe from Massachusetts