Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Taverna

Hi!
I've to translate the word "taverna" (I mean the room that in a house is 
situated "underground" often furnished with a fireplace).
I've used the word "basement room". Is it correct?
Thank you
Vanessa 

 Vanessa
Roger
-- 
"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet."

 "tavernetta"
Ma anche taverna si usa spesso e va bene.
Ciao
Fabio 

 I've used the word "basement room". Is it correct?
La taverna è anche il scantinato? Non lo sapevo. Pensavo che la taverna sia
"the tavern" in inglese. In ogni caso, per indicare una stanza sottoterra si
può dire 'basement'. A volte si usa un termine che descrive il scopo. Per
esempio, molti seminterrati sono rimessi a nuovo con lastre di cartone
ingessato e mattonelle. La famiglia usa questa stanza che si chiama il rec
room per giocare. Rec room vuole dire recreation room.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreation_room
http://www.ultimaterecroom.com/

il scopo
watch out: lo scopo!
:) 

 lastre di cartone ingessato 
"cartongesso"

esiste il calciobalilla in america?
si', si chiama fusbol. E' leggermente diverso pero'.
Ciao
Fabio 

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If you're talking about the game you play in bars, we always called it
"calcetto" when I was in Italy, and I see no difference between "fussball"
(fußball) and "calcietto", except for the spelling.
Joe from Massachusetts

(fußball) and "calcietto", except for the spelling.
I'm getting a bit confused here. Fussball is German for football (or
call it soccer if you will). Calcetto, in Italian, may refer to both
bar foosball and 5-players-football (as opposed to the regular 11). 
Calc_i_etto, on the other hand, is plain wrong. Ortographically, I
mean, not morally <g>.
-- 
Isa
Work like you don't need money,
Love like you've never been hurt,
And dance like no one's watching
http://web.tiscali.it/alfabeto_auschwitz/index.htm

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Also known as "foosball" or "fooseball".
Does this look like your "calciobalilla"?.
http://tinyurl.com/389jzo
Joe from Massachusetts

 (fußball) and "calcietto", except for the spelling.
There are some minor differences. As an example, on the goally line there 
are 3 players in the American version (instead of one) and the corners are 
flat (instead of having a gentle slope).
Cheers and beers
Fabio 

 
http://tinyurl.com/389jzo
Calcetto (con la "i"? boh) è un sinonimo di calciobalilla. Qua addirittura 
alcuni dicono "calcino", ma non mi è mai piaciuto come termine. Nella foto 
del tuo link pare che ci siano tre portieri per ogni giocatore. Non è un po' 
troppo?
:-)
Ciao,
Enrico il Pentolaio.
-- 
She's not worth it. Or is she? 

 mean, not morally <g>.
Uh, grazie! Mi stavano venendo dei dubbi a riguardo.
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Well, at least the first time I got it right. One out of two is not bad.
Would you complain as loudly if you occasionally got a bacietto instead of a
bacetto?   :>)
I never heard the phrase "calcio balilla" when I played the table game in
Italy. My friends always said "calc(no i here)etto". Are "calcetto" and
"calcio balilla" both used commonly to refer to the tabel game in Italy?
Here in the US, the table game is
pronounced like the German word for football (soccer), and spelled several
different ways, with "foosball" being the most common and accepted spelling.
The game is also referred to as "table soccer", but people who are
aficionados of the table game call it "foosball", even though they would
always refer to the game of "calcio" as "soccer", not "football".
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=foosball+table+game&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22fooseball%22+table+game&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=+%22fussball%22+table+game&btnG=Search
Joe from Massachusetts

 I'm getting a bit confused here. 
Non e' da te.
Smack!
VA

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There are many imported tables here which are the same as the European ones
(1 goalie), as well as the American-made tables (3 goalies), so you are
likely to find both types. I found this explanation about why American-made
tables have 3 goal keepers on the goalie rod instead of one, and no corner
ramps.
"The 3 goalie thing came about to do away with ramps in the corner. The
ramps were there to keep the ball from getting stuck or 'dead' in the
corners. Problem was it caused balls to fly up off the table, so away it
went."
http://www.foosball.com/content.php?page=87
I guess that when the sloped corner was eliminated, the extra two goalies
had to be added to the goalie rod to be able to dig the ball out of the
corners.
Joe from Massachusetts

> My friends always said "calcetto". 
Oggi calcetto e' il calcio a 5 praticato da umani in un campetto di piccole
dimensioni. 
Il calciobalilla qui lo chiamano anche "biliardino", esistono addirittura
delle federazioni di biliardino.

dicaduca wrote:
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E, sempre per Tony, "lo scantinato". :)
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 E, sempre per Tony, "lo scantinato". :)
Dovrei insegnarmi a scrivere ad alta voce. 

 corners.
It makes sense, even though I still prefer the 1-goalie+slope version.
Fabio 

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"Dovrei imparare a scrivere ad alta voce" is better, I think.
BTW, do you say:
"I should learn..."
or
"I should teach myself..."?
R.
-- 
Quando il gioco si fa duro
i sardi iniziano a giocare

delle federazioni di biliardino.
Penso invece che biliardino e calcetto siano termini popolari, creati
naturalmente per associazine mentale (dato anche il diminutivo).
"Calcetto" per le dimensioni ridotte, e "biliardino" per il fondo
verde.
A complicare le cose, qui da noi "biliardino" si usa anche per
indicare il flipper... ^__^
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delle federazioni di biliardino.
Segnalo, per una sintesi della storia e delle denominazioni
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcio_balilla
http://gabrielemartufi.altervista.org/calcio-balilla-biliardino.htm
da cui sembra emergere una prima commercializzazione in Germania, che
spiegherebbe anche perché negli USa si usa un termine di derivazione
tedesca (anche se l'inventore sarebbe uno spagnolo).
(Ah, e a qanto pare "calcio balilla" non viene dal ventennio...)
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 "I should teach myself..."?
You can say "I taught myself everything I need" or simply "I taught 
myself" (i.e. "I'm an autodidact/a self-taught person").
Kiuhnm

 Dovrei insegnarmi a scrivere ad alta voce. 
While you say "I /taught/ myself what really matters in life" we say "Ho 
/imparato/ da solo quello che veramente conta nella vita".
Anyway, I'd say "scrivere pronunciando ad alta voce"... if I understand 
what you mean.
Kiuhnm

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Don't know if this a bacetto or a bacietto, but I'll keep it anyway.
Ta!
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"calcio balilla" both used commonly to refer to the table game in Italy?
Yes, and so would be "biliardino" like somebody else pointed out.
Ciao,
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 It makes sense, even though I still prefer the 1-goalie+slope version.
Anybody up for a table soccer (Subbuteo) match? ;D
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 Anybody up for a table soccer (Subbuteo) match? ;D
That would be great! :D 

myself" (i.e. "I'm an autodidact/a self-taught person").
That's ok, but would you say:
"I should learn once and for all to write my posts reading them aloud"
or
"I should teach myself... etc"
I'm just curious if Tony fell victim to a false friend of sorts ("I
should teach myself --> dovrei insegnarmi) or was intentionally using
the form "impararmi" because he tought it was the better Italian word.
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 "I should teach myself..."?
You can say either. I wanted to say "I should teach myself, but apparently
this doesn't va bene in italiano. Actually, I was more concerned about the
poetic use of "ad alta voce" in this situation. Thank you all for the 
corrections

 Ta!
Dah!
VA :-)

poetic use of "ad alta voce" in this situation. 
Poetic use? It's quite a simple (normal? popular? here I don't know
which is the more appropriate) expression.
"Leggere ad alta voce è un esercizio utile per i bambini"
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 "Leggere ad alta voce è un esercizio utile per i bambini"
Sì, leggere. Ma scrivere ad alta voce è abbastanza assurdo, no? È come dire
in inglese "writing out loud". Beh, forse scherzavo male.


eyes wide shut? 

in inglese "writing out loud". 
^__^
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 ingessato e mattonelle. 
We say "cartongesso" instead of "cartone ingessato".
Bye,
Teo


WRITING OUT LOUD!
Joe from Massachusetts