Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Chiacchiere

Come si puï¿œ tradurre "chiacchiere da bar (Sport)"?
Cioï¿œ discorsi non molto seri fondati su luoghi comuni e dicerie.
-- 
"It is computed that eleven thousand persons have at several
times suffered death, rather than submit to break their eggs at
the smaller end."
                -- Jonathan Swift, Gulliver's Travels.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gossip
 

 Cioï¿œ discorsi non molto seri fondati su luoghi comuni e dicerie.
Perhaps "to shoot the breeze."
http://www.yourdictionary.com/idioms/shoot-the-breeze
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/shoot_the_breeze
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/shoot+the+breeze

 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gossip
Ma "gossip" vale per qualsiasi argomento o solo per i
pettegolezzi su persone?
P.es. se uno disquisisce di centrali nucleari senza esserne un
esperto professionale, fa gossip?
-- 
"The hatred of relatives is the most violent."
                -- Tacitus (c.55 - c.117)

Tony The Ice Man, 04:46, martedï¿œ 1 giugno 2010:
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Questo mi pare riferirsi all'attivitï¿œ delle persone che
chiacchierano, non alle chiacchiere in sï¿œ, cioï¿œ al loro
contenuto.
Se io, chiacchierando al bar Sport, mi metto a parlare di un
argomento senza averne molta conoscenza, le mie sono
chiacchiere da bar, non discorsi sensati e fondati.
-- 
Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the
rest.
    -- Mark Twain

 "idle talk"/"idle chat(ter)" o qualcosa del genere...
Anche qui si fa riferimento più all'attività delle persone più
che al contenuto dell'idle talk.
Ci vorrebbe qualcosa per indicare che quanto è stato detto non è
molto fondato e solido.
-- 
Just as I cannot remember any time when I could not read and
write, I cannot remember any time when I did not exercise my
imagination in daydreams about women.
    -- G.B. Shaw

 
"Gossip" has a negative connotation, usually regarding someone's personal 
life, not necessarily talking about something you know nothing about. That 
could be called "talking through one's hat."
The OP, I think, was asking about general chat, idle conversation. 
"chewing the fat"
"shooting the breeze"
"schoomzing" (probably not well known outside of urban areas with significant 
Jewish populations)
"jawboning." 
A few that come to my idle mind.
-- 
Joey from NY

 
"idle chat"?
-- 
Joey from NY

 
Oops. I guess I should read through the entire thread before I start my 
'bavardage.'
I see that others have beaten me to the punch.
-- 
Joey from NY

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What about "sports talk"?
"Sports talk you hear in a bar"
http://brothersin3-z.podomatic.com/
Joe from Massachusetts 

 chiacchiere da bar, non discorsi sensati e fondati.
You're having a bull session.
This expressions derives from the slang word "bullshit" which means 
foolish, deceitful, or boastful language, but it does not retain the 
strongly negative connotation in the context of friends chatting.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bull+session
http://www.yourdictionary.com/bull-session
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O999-bullsession.html


Pub talk  (UK)
Mike 

 Come si pu tradurre "chiacchiere da bar (Sport)"?
Sweet pastries fried and sprinkled with icing sugar, served in a
coffee house where football fans hang out.
;-)))

 about. That could be called "talking through one's hat."
"hat" sarebbe un eufemismo per quello che penso io?
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I don't know what you're thinking, but I don't think it refers to anything 
but an actual hat. In my mind, the image is of someone holding a hat in front 
of their face, as a shield, because they know they're speaking nonsense.
There is a parallel expression that you might be thinking of :
talking out of one's ass
which means the same thing.
-- 
Joey from NY

 of their face, as a shield, because they know they're speaking nonsense.
[...]
'The Phrase Finder' finder dice che
Meaning
Talk nonsense; especially on a subject that one professes to be
knowledgeable about but in fact is ignorant of.
Origin
This began life in the USA, in the late 19th century, with a slightly
different meaning from the present one. It then meant to bluster.
Farmer and Henley Slang and Its Analogues, 1888:
    "Dis is only a bluff dey're makin' - see! Dey're talkin' tru dere
hats"
It would be nice to be able to report that this graphic phrase alludes
to some event where someone used a hat to disguise their speech, or
similar. The only practice that comes close to fitting the bill is
that of 'topping', in the UK parliament. To be allowed to make a 'a
point of order', which is an interruption to a previous speech in
order to query something that had been raised, MPs had to be 'seated
and covered'. That is, seated and wearing a hat. Topping was the name
given to 'talking out' a bill, otherwise known as filibustering, by
continuing to speak until debating time ran out. Having made a point
of order and while wearing a top hat, an MP couldn't be interrupted
and could continue talking for as long as he/she wished. Naturally, as
these speeches often lasted hours, they were frequently filled with
rambling nonsense.
Unfortunately, although the link is plausible, I can't find any
documentary evidence that links this practice with talking through
one's hat. It also seems unlikely that the arcane practices of top-
hatted Victorian gentlemen in the UK parliament would have crossed the
Atlantic. Much more likely that the phrase originated in the USA and
the meaning changed slightly over time.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/talking-through-your-hat.html