Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: scendi tra/dopo due fermate

Salve,
     Su un autobus o sul metrò per dire di scendere a questa feramata 
direi: "This is where you get off", alla prossima fermata direi: "the 
next is where you get off", ma come potrei dire: "scendi tra/dopo due 
fermate" ??
Grazie

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Ho anche visto che: "to tell sb where to get off (fig) mettere a posto 
qn, dare una lezione a qn". Allora come posso dire a qn di dire a qn 
dove scendere?
ciao

"Larry" ha scritto
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"Don't worry, That's my stop."
Ci rimetti un biglietto, ma eviti una figuraccia.
saluti,
Peltio

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è ovvio che se sei sul bus non stai insultando nessuno.
:)

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"get off one stop after next"
..
"it's one stop after next"
etc

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You get off at the second stop. 

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Domanda: Si può dire  "I get off in two stops" ?
Alberto 

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rather , 'You get off at the next stop but one' , 'You get off at the next 
but one stop' 'You get off at the stop after next' 'Yours is the next but 
one stop' etc.
(It would have to be 'You get off one stop after *the* next' , but tho' 
possible it's not likely; tho' 'You get off at the stop after next' is also 
ok ) .
Mike 

 Domanda: Si puň dire  "I get off in two stops" ?
Risposta: Sě 

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Enrico C
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I wouldn't say "the stop after *the* next" because:
*the* applies to *the following* when our reference (a moment in time, or a
stop, in this case) is not "this", but rather "that":
For example:
Last saturday I ate a ton of strawberries. The next day I was sick. (the day
after *that moment*)
or
When I saw Greg on Monday I didn't recognize him, so the next time I saw him
I apologised for not saying hi.(the time after *then*)
or
I missed my stop, and the next stop was 2 miles off. (the stop after *that*)
next without "the", means, rather, "right after "this" (not *that*)
Next Friday I am going to Berlin (the Friday after now)
or
Next stop is Piccadilly Square (the stop after this)
or
I'm moving to Phildadelphia next year.
Tang


 All but one of your examples are correct , but as I've pointed out they 
don't apply to anything I actually said .
The example that (in my view) is incorrect is 'Next stop is Piccadilly 
Square' . This is an ellipsis for 'The next stop is P S' (often reduced 
further to 'Next stop Piccadilly Square' , if we imagine a conductor's 
announcement ) .
I don't think your rule applies except when 'next' combines with a noun to 
form a temporal phrase (mostly adverbial) ; if 'next' qualifies a noun to 
form a non-temporal noun phrase , then it doesn't apply : 'This stop is 
where I get off ; *the* next stop is where you get off' ; 'This chapter is 
boring ; I hope *the* next one is better' ; 'This is the leader coming into 
view now , Adebo Akulilah , and *the* next runner to appear in the stadium 
will be the world champion Jahro Nervil'.
I say 'mostly adverbial' because sometimes 'next' is used to form a noun 
phrase subject or object which is 'temporal', to which the same 'rule' 
applies : 'This year has been an annus horribilis ; one hopes that next year 
will be much pleasanter ' ; 'This week is too soon ; next week will be a 
better time'.
Given that restriction to temporal phrases , it is then simpler to say that 
in present tense sequences it's 'next' , and in past tense sequences 'the 
next' (though sometimes we'd prefer 'the following') (just as 'today' 
becomes 'that day' , 'tomorrow' becomes 'the next/following day' , 
'yesterday' becomes 'the previous day' when moving from present to past 
tense sequences) : 'I'm moving to Philadelphia next year' - 'He said he was 
moving to Philadelphia the next/following year' ; 'Next time you come 
pestering my daughter , I'll thump you' - 'He said that the next time he 
came pestering his daughter , he'd thump him ' ; 'The Queen said that that 
year had been an annus horribilis ; she hoped that the next/following year 
would be much pleasanter'.
Mike

 Square' . This is an ellipsis for 'The next stop is P S'
Pondian?
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I agree to everything you said.
But, suppose I am talking about the collocation of houses in a neighbourhood
(I am not one for good examples, mine always suck, so, let's pretend this is
an intelligent one :)). I'll say:
my house is the white one, next is the Johnsons' house, and the next (after
that) is the Smiths'.
Of course, as you say, the restriction to using "the next" applies mostly to
temporal phrases. What you say about the past is very right.
As far as the Piccadilly Square example, I'm thinking about that. I never
considered it to be an ellipsis. I'll (later) get a grammar book and see
what I can find out.
Thanks for the explanation. Very useful. :)


That's ok , but it's a different structure -  'next is the Johnson's house' 
isn't the same as 'next house is the Johnson's' - in the latter case , you'd 
have to say '*the* next house is the Johnson's' .
Mike