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Titolo: And how is this for complete panda mania

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=jveZKn0SiVI
She drives me crazy.
Does she say so at the very beginning of this video?.
Thanks.
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 Does she say so at the very beginning of this video?.
Maybe
"Now how is this full complete panda-monium..."
The last word is a pun.
Kiuhnm

 "Now how is this full complete panda-monium..."
"for a complete"
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 The last word is a pun.
Mmm... I'm not sure. I don't understand British English very well.
Kiuhnm

 "for a complete"
And oh, I forgot: AWWWWWWWWWWW ^^;
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 The last word is a pun.
You could be right.
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 "for a complete"
I'm not very familiar with that expression.
Is that equivalent to "What a complete panda-monium?" or something like 
that?
Kiuhnm

 that?
The sentence starts out as "Now how's this for a complete panda ..."
and then leaps off into the joke's punch line: "-monium".
So "a complete pandemonium" isn't something I'd normally expect to hear in 
an ordinary conversation but it's just an attempt at a funny line, so the
normal rules can be stretched quite a bit. It's (mildly) humerous so it 
doesn't have to make sense when you think about it.
Antonio

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She says "Now how's this for 'complete pandemonium'", not 'a complete
pandemonium'.
Joe from Massachusetts

 pandemonium'.
Ok, now it makes sense.
But how would you translate that sentence into Italian?
What does it mean exactly?
Kiuhnm

 pandemonium'.
I'm pretty sure, she says "panda-monium". Am I wrong?
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You can't usually translate puns, as Anna might say.
In English, "complete pandemonium" is equivalent to "utter chaos".
The narrator is saying that the scene at the panda nursery is chaotic.
It just so happens that pandemonium sounds like "panda-monium", which in
this context makes it a pun.
Maybe you could say "la scena era un vero panda-monio."
Would it be a pun in Italian, or would it fall on deaf ears?
Joe from Massachusetts

 Would it be a pun in Italian, or would it fall on deaf ears?
http://www.google.it/search?q=panda-monio
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She does hesitate between syllables to obviate the pun, since in the BrE
pronunciation the "e" in pandemonium is pronounced almost "ee", but in AmE
the hesitation would not be necessary, since both "pandemonium" and
"pandamonium" are pronounced the same.
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/pandemonium?view=uk
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Pandemonium
Joe from Massachusetts

 
http://www.google.it/search?q=panda-monio
LOL. I forgot one piece, I'm always with too little time.
However, It sounds fine to me.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvBHmRV49Z0

 "pandamonium" are pronounced the same.
I'm still amazed by those difference between BrE and AmE. Only some
months ago I thought that British and American were nearly identical.
Anyway, thank you for the explanation.
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 In English, "complete pandemonium" is equivalent to "utter chaos".
That's the obvious part.
I was talking of the whole sentence.
When should/can I use something like "How is this for X"?
Kiuhnm

 What does it mean exactly?
"Non trovate che questo sia un vero panda-monio?".
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"How is/How's this/that for...?" means loosely "Isn't this/that an excellent
example of...?".
If someone says "Look how fast I can run!",  you might take off running much
faster, saying "How's this for fast!"
It is very common, and googling the various versions will show you many
examples in many different contexts.
Joe from Massachusetts

 She does hesitate between syllables to obviate the pun, 
Joe; do you mean "to emphasize the pun; to make it obvious"?
You don't mean "obviate" I believe, which means to make something 
unnecessary. I only point this out because of the nature of this ng.
obviate 
verb [ trans. ]
remove (a need or difficulty) : the Venetian blinds obviated the need for 
  avoid; prevent : a parachute can be used to obviate disaster.
How are things in Taxachusetts?
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Astute observance, Joe.
What I should have said is that unlike in the US, where the pronunciations
are the same, the UK speaker felt herself compelled to insert a pause in her
pronunciation of the word to obviate any confusion or need for further
explanation which might have been created in the mind of the listener had
no pause been inserted. The speaker evidently thought that the UK audience
might not have immediately grasped the pun without the pause, but In the US,
no pause would have been necessary, and the pun would have been obvious
without any vocal sleight-of-hand.
As far as "Taxachusetts" goes, we have voted, out of fear of losing this
sobriquet often affectionately applied to our State, not to repeal the State
Income Tax.
Hey Joe, if Obama is half black and half white, couldn't we just as
logically consider him white as black?
That reminds me of time spent in Oklahoma, where many white people were
proud of being 1/16 Cherokee, but would never associate with Indians, and
didn't look at all Indian.
It is ironic that in electing our first black President, we will be
removing our only black Senator from office.
Barack Obama is so popular that he's even on the ballots in Brazil.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/08/13/obamas-brazilian-doppelganger/
Joe from Massachusetts

 examples in many different contexts.
What buffled me is that it resembles a question.
Kiuhnm

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I was thinking of your last example...
Kiuhnm

 "Non trovate che questo sia un vero panda-monio?".
Ok, thanks.
Kiuhnm

 pandemonium'.
Listening again (more carefully), you are probably right. There is a tiny
pause before "complete" but it's probably only slightly more of an "a" than 
Neil Armstong's I guess.
The other thing I noticed on the second listening is that she sounds very 
much like one of the Central TV presenters (one of the local TV stations 
here). I'm not sure why they'd have a panda story on.
Antonio

 than Neil Armstong's I guess.
I just listened to it for the first time, and I hear her say "for complete
pandemonium." She also says 'how is this' rather than 'how's this'.

 logically consider him white as black?
http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html?uc_full_date=20081105
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Actually, it is a question. I should have included a ? along with the !.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrobang