Newsgroup: it.cultura.linguistica.inglese
Titolo: Parole maschile o feminile

Salve,
On behalf of a friend.
C'é qualcuno chi potrebbe speigare: who decides what gender new nouns
will be in italiano? 
And is 'email' masculine or femine or is there another word entirely for
it.
grazie in anticipo for any aiuto forthcoming,
Cheers,
Loki
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it.
Personally, I say "la mia email", I consider it to be femine, maybe
because of its translation into Italian, which is "posta elettronica".
ciao
Chrisa

it.
The Electronic Mail as a service to be used through the Internet is
known in Italian as "Posta Elettronica" (no more, no less :-)).
Needless to say, almost nobody says that...
The e-mail as a single "piece of communication" (I just invented this
and I like it lots so leave it there! :-D) I have only heard used in
the feminine gender and minus the "e", as in "ti mando una mail" or
"ho perso la tua mail, me la rispedisci?". (The latter can refer to an
e-mail address, too). 
Feel worse now, huh?
Bye,
-- 
Isa
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Love like you've never been hurt,
And dance like no one's watching
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 Lillo
Ho letto, nel mio libro gramatico, che le parole forestiere sono
considerate maschile.  Come "il film", "gli alcool", "lo sport."

Per la email spiegazione.
Grazie a Christina e Izabella . 
Loki

 considerate maschile.  Come "il film", "gli alcool", "lo sport."
What is the difference fra forestiere and straniere in usage?
Loki

What is the difference fra forestiere and straniere in usage?
None, actually. They both translate "foreign" and "foreigner".
"Forestiero" sounds slightly more archaic though.
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Arcaico io, ho imparato la parola nei racconti di Guareschi di don
Camillo e Peppone.  In questi racconti della quaranta e cinquanta
Guareschi di solito usava "forestiero" invece di "straniere."
C'è un racconto con titolo "Il forestiero."  Un uomo straniere arriva
allo basso e voi potete trovarlo.  C'è una meraviglia.
Martino

Non credere troppo a quello che dicono i
libri di grammatica: dovendo dare delle
indicazioni generali sono per forza
imprecisi.  Attento: gli alcool (plurale) è
sbagliato!
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 Shakespeare in mentite spoglie?
No, no, quello era solo Francis Bacon.
Comunque, non son regine mica per nulla, no ?
Ciao Luca, buon viaggio a New York
Giorgio

 imperdonabile)
.... 
Buon Giorno Buongiorgio,
Grazie mille!
Sto leggendo i racconti di don Camillo e Peppone che trovo molto
interessanti.  Leggo una collezione in ordine cronico. C'è la storia
d'Italia negli anni quaranta e cinquanta, trista, comica, dura, umana,
... molto divertente!
Martin
Forestiero e straniero

Good choice. I think that Guareschi's stories are fantistic, and are
useful to practice the language, even though sometimes it isn't the same
Italian as we use today. As for straniero and forestiero, I'd say you can
always use starniero as equivalent of foreign/er in Italian; forestiero is
actually perceived as old-fashioned or formal. As far as the gender of
"vocaboli stranieri" is concerned, I disagree with your grammar. We have a
lot of foreign terms which actually are feminine; from  English, not only
l'(a) e-mail, but also la new economy (because economia is feminine in
Italian), la baby-sitter (bambinaia) , la password (parola d'accesso), la
colt (pistola), la convention (riunione, convocazione), la gang (banda di
malviventi) and so on. As a proof, if you ask most of Italian which
article they'd use to introduce terms like canteen or bank holiday into
Italian, they'd answered "hanno aperto una nuova canteen" and "mi sono
goduto questa lunga bank holiday", because we perceive them related to
their equivalent "mensa" and "vacanza" in Italian". And it's the same
reguarding loans from other languages. For instance, we say una Blitzkrieg
because we are thinking of guerra, meanwhile the respect of the original
article (German has feminine and masculine gender as Italian, and a
neutral one as well) would require the masculine.

 davvero inusuali: devo mettermi a studiare di più!):
Dear Luca,
Firstly, welcome to our humble home, more fondly known as The Illuminated
Realm. As you have had occasion to note, the discussions which we have
pleasure in holding within, deal not only with frivolous quips  and
rejoinders, and some (sometimes) more serious discussions on the English
language, but inevitably, also the Italian language, its words and their
meanings. It makes life for one such as the undersigned, far more
interesting and colourful, not to mention the fact that it can aid greatly
in making life for those stranieri such as myself easier as  we navigate the
pitfalls of daily life in this wondrous land.
HRH Isabella, I have no doubt shall answer for herself your queries, and it
but remains for me to say that I have now learnt, thanks to your goodself, a
new Italian expression (sotto mentite spoglie) and alas, no Shakespeare am
I. I be but a humble servant whose native language is English. I merely try
to communicate in a style which might not otherwise be found so readily in
daily life.
Happy studying to the both of us then.
--
I remain, as always, ecc., ecc.,
Bambi
dtb

english-speaking 
Sbagliata, parrebbe.
Ciao,
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 negative? L'Italia non finisce a Brescello, e neanche in Padania, e
....
Siamo arrivati a una domanda, non di accezioni negative, ma della matematica.
Della tua descrizione direi che stranieri sono un "subset of the group"
forestieri in primo senso.
Come si dice in Italiano:
a is a subset of b.    a  C  b
?
Martin