Newsgroup: it.lavoro.informatica
Titolo: Advise/Adviso II

Ecco il mio problema, ho bisogno di un lavoro, qui negli Stati Uniti
mi faccia volte orribile. Sto per diventare e cittadino italiano. C'è
comunque a trovare un lavoro come insegnante di inglese o in qualsiasi
altra professione?
Anche se io resto negli Stati Uniti sono condannato alla povertà tp
comunque. Almeno avrò l'assistenza sanitaria in Italia. Affermativo,
quali sono i miei altrenatives. Voglio scappare America. Le agenzie
disponibili per ragioni più. Ho un dottorato in filosofia.
Here is my problem, I need a job,here in the USA I face horrible
times. I am about to become and Italian citizen. Is there anyway to
get a job as a english teacher or any other profession?
Even if I stay in the USA I am doomed tp poverty anyway.  Least I will
have health care in Italy. So what are my altrenatives. I wish to
escape America. Any agencies available for most reasons. I have a Phd
in Philosophy.
Italy could use more Socialism no doubt.
Teak

Italy could use more Socialism no doubt.
In order to be able to teach in publich schools you need to be in
ranking lists.
Once you have enouch "credits" you will be able to teach for a short
amount of time as a temporary teacher covering for someone that is
sick.
This is just ONE of the many things that you will need to be compliant
with.
As a matter of fact you will be able to teach in private schools, with
an average salary that would equate the salary of a waiter in the US.
You will have free healthcare, but you will not be able to buy food
once you paid the rent?
Is is worth it? I don't think so.
I still think that an english speaking country would be a better
destination.
Still it's your life.
-- 
Living in Barbaropoli
http://www.barbaropoli.com

 As a matter of fact you will be able to teach in private schools,
today free english lessons, thank you Freddy

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You are welcome to Italy. This is not the paradise on earth. But ...
is it the Usa? You can answer.
Here there are many difficulties, as many italian people have
explained in every little details.
They love to beat themselves :-))
As an official italian citizen you have many rights, included health
care and some form of assistance for unemployment.
Anyway if you want to have the italian citizenship, then you like
Italy in some mode.  Then... try!
But improve the knowledge of italian language.
An example  site for job search:
http://www.jobrapido.it
Buona fortuna!

 get a job as a english teacher or any other profession?
Hi teak,
I haven't followed the other thread, so I don't know if anyone already
suggested you that, but with the Italian citizenship you get an EU
citizenship as well, so you will basically be able to look for a job
in any of the 27 EU member countries.
Italy is not going to be the best bet for a good job, but you may look
in UK, Ireland or Malta (where English is the official languages) as
well, or also in Netherland, Germany, Sweden, Denmark and a lot of
countries with a job market in a much better state than the Italian
one.
Word of mouth, the best benefit system for newcoming EU citizen should
be the French one, but probably London or Bavaria are the places where
is it easier to quickly find a not very well paid job.
--
ale
http://ale.riolo.co.uk

 Italy could use more Socialism no doubt.
Then you choose the wrong moment to decide to live in it.
No History lessons during your Phd ?
C'ya
   STeve

 wrote:
That was me, wrong account :)
--
ale
http://ale.riolo.co.uk

 once you paid the rent?
Yeah, a free helthcare where you have to pay to get a service,
otherwise you can wait months if not years for an examination.
A free healthcare with an equivalent service.
The USA system is not perfect, there are a lot of things that need to
be fixed, but the solution is parsec away than imitate the Italian
one.
C'ya
   STeve

 Italy in some mode.  Then... try!
I also wonder if he even tried to visit Italy before to decide to live
there.
Say what ... why you don't offer him to stay  2 or 3 week with you,
showing around the Italian lifestyle before he decides to live in
Italy ?
What better way to show how positive you are and how wrong we are
telling him to don't go there ?
I would have ask to Valentina but she's in Ireland (wonder why ...).
Is or is not a great opportunity to show Italy to a person who dreams
about it ?
Maybe you can also bring him to visit some healthcare structures, so
he can see what actually he can have.
Maybe just don't show him Italian TV ... you need to be inoculate
first in order to survive to that trash ...
C'ya
   STeve

 about it ?
Sorry, I have other plans :-))
The truth is that he will have in few weeks the italian citizenship.
Maybe you think he wants to be the star of this recent very nice game:
taking the italian citizenship :-)))
Traduco: saranno ca... suoi se vuole venire in Italia, o no? :-)

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news:0141bd28-233a-4aa7...@h9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
<Ecco il mio problema, ho bisogno di un lavoro, qui negli Stati Uniti
<mi faccia volte orribile.
ma se avete il PIL a + 5,1 %   !
qui � negativo , che ci racconti ? 

comunque. Almeno avr� l'assistenza sanitaria in Italia.
OK, in america diverrai povero.
Vieni pure in italia ....ma se ricorrerai  all'assistenza pubblica, sappi 
che ne uscirai  "con le gambe in avanti".
Uomo avvisato....
ciao
fm

 Traduco: saranno ca... suoi se vuole venire in Italia, o no? :-)
Indubbiamente.
Lui ha pero' chiesto consigli e opinioni per lavorare in Italia, e
quello gli ho dato :)
Ciao
  STeve

 I also don't get why you are posting on this group.
Forse perchè qui è sempre pieno di pesci boccaloni, che dici?
bye!

 in Philosophy.
What practical skills do you possess exactly? Just like in the US,
philosophy will get you nowhere. Rather than teaching, which does not
actually offer many opportunities, as a native english speaker you could
probably look at the tourism/travel industry. Check for example:
http://www.jobintourism.it/job/eng/
ALso, as you have already been told, being an Italian citizen means you
can also apply for jobs in any EU country.

 disponibili per ragioni pi�. Ho un dottorato in filosofia.
Intanto impara a sbagliare anche le singole parole oltre la sintassi...
Buon divertimento con le varie risposte che riceverai! :-)

 get a job as a english teacher or any other profession?
I know some american-english teacher here. They work in privately held
company
http://www.google.com/search?q=scuole+inglese+roma
http://www.angloamerican.it/
What I can do is to suggest you to write at some private school or at
some US-company with office here. Remember you need to earn at the
last 800/1.000 euro month to survive in Rome.
Good Luck, and let we know if you came here.
PS: Italy can be a really beautiful place, and I suggest Firenze,
Bologna or Rome to live.

> Forse perchè qui è sempre pieno di pesci boccaloni, che dici?
L'importante è la discussione non chi la genera. Qui spesso si parte
da domande poste da troll, sciocche o provocatorie, ma la discussione
che segue (spesso) vale la pena di essere seguita, e raramente è
banale.

 Forse perchè qui è sempre pieno di pesci boccaloni, che dici?
Ci ho pensato, ma ho fatto un po' di ricerche e il tipo sembra
genuino ... non che sia qualcosa di cui vantarsi ...
C'ya
   STeve

 Really ? The truth ? Do you know him ? :)
Ma se l'ha scritto!
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Eh eh non sono stato l'unico a "indagare"...sembra un tipo quanto meno
poliedrico!

 Ma se l'ha scritto!
Cioe' se scrivo che non capisci nulla e' la verita' ? :-)))))
A volte sembra che fai apposta a non capire :-))
Buon Anno !

 genuino ... non che sia qualcosa di cui vantarsi ...
Miiii, davvero? Allora è un "NBT"*.
bye!
*=Natural Born Troll

 Buon Anno !
Sì, vabbè, Auguri!

 Sì, vabbè, Auguri!
:-)
Ciao
  STeve