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Titolo: [WFB] battle report (a massacre of elves :-( ) 2500pts High elves VS Chaos (tzeentch)

Hi, last night we play a test battle, and i learn the hard way that in
no matter a swordsmen can kill a Chaos knight.. :-(
Ok.. lez start with report:
first the armies...
my army list is (bad) formed:
Archmage         	220
4 lvl             	 35
jewel of dusk         	 15
starwood staff         	 40
Annulian crystal	 40
pure of heart		  0
				350
with:
sword master [24]    	312
bladelord         	 12
-with
     amulet of purif. 	 15
     biting blade     	 10
musician           	  6
standard bearer          12
-with
     banner of sorc.  	 50
				417
shadow warrior    [6]   090	 90
Commander         	 70
dragon armor          	  6
ring of fury          	 30
dragonscale shield     	 20
elven steed		 12
bardatura		  5
with
silverhelm	[7]*23	161
scudi,heavyarmor
standard bearer		 14
	banner of ellyr. 15
champion		 14
				347
shadow warrior [6]*15	 90	 90
Commander         	 70
dragon armor		  6
elven steed		 12
bardatura		  5
ring of corin		 35
enchanted shield	 10
longbow			 10
				148
with
Ellyrian Reaver [6]*24	120	144
bow
spearmen    [10]    	110
				110
mage             	 95
lvl2             	 35
dispelx2         	 40
silver wand         	 10
				180
bowman        [10]    	120	120
bowman        [10]    	120	120
SeaGuard    [10]    	150
shield             	 10
musico			  7
standard bearer          14
				174
multiballista        	100	100
multiballista        	100	100
total:        (?)      	       2497
dice :10-13
dispel:5
his army (approximate.. cause i've not near his list)
1 lord (mage) of tzeentch
1 mage of fire
2 chaos champion
6 chosen chaos knight(tzeentch)
7 chaos knight
7 chaos knight
10 harpies	(tzeentch)
10 barbarian raider (tzeentch)
10 barbarian raider (tzeentch)
5 chaoshound	(tzeentch)
5 chaoshound (tzeentch)
5 chaoshound (tzeentch)
10 horrors with 4 pyrodaemons
2 abominius of caos
for a total of 2499
ok. the battlefield : we decide to place random piece on map.
we have 6 pieces to place (2 hills (1 big 1 small),3 forests ,1 bush 
little wall).
the field result so:
side chaos
.ff..........ff.
ff.h.........ff.
...hh.......ff..
...hhh.....fff..
...............h
.....b..........
.....b..........
................
side high elf
legenda:
. free spot
f forest
h hill
b bush wall
(damn random roll... all the pieces go to chaos side... i have to face 
it on open plains... :-( but shit happens and this open for me to a nice
challenge...)
then the placement of troop:
the chaos deploy all the knight in the centre hoping to reach fast to my 
lines...
the raiders (as he call "predadoni" (in italian someting like predonDICE 
to specify the main use of this raider = MAGIC DICES) :-) ) are hidden
in the back forests, same sort for 1 group of hounds, the other hounds
end on right side screening the horror and pyrodaemon back.
all his boss was placed near the kaos knight hordes... screened.
the harpy was placed right behind the big hill.. out of any ranged 
weapons.. :-(
my placement
(nb we discover at end of 1st turn that i place errating a rule 1 group
of shadow elf = too near to enemy.. and we opt to punish me let them
stay stand there for 1 turn)
i place so:
                    (bush)
	light cav. (bush)         	
                              swordsmen         seaguard     knight  bow
bowmen                                    bowmen 
                                                    spear
                                   ballista            ballista
and i place the scouts one near the littlehill and the other the wrong
place i said before.
(another error... i have to place the other scout in the forest on
right centre...to stop march move of cavalry..bad mistake, bad result :-) )
he won the initiative...
his first turn he move all forward and 2 of his cavalry are now in
charge distance for my heavy knights that had a bad feeling of death
incoming...
i said that this is my first game with highelves, and ok i admit that
i have made a lot of error (bad placement, the spearmen was really
bad placed, and the swordmaster as 'Maka' told me (too later to 
change..sigh) result useless almost useless result the scout bad
placed and i feel that i need to put on field a lot of spearmen
and another heavy cavalry to sustain the one there...
the situation terrible for my H.cavalry was so:
C=chaosknights         EEEEEEEE               XXXXxxxxxxXXXX
E=elite chaosK.                               XXXX      XXXX
Champ=chaos champ                             XX TREE XXXX
Hc =my cavalry                     Champ      XXXXXXXXXXX
                     CC   CCCCCCC      Champ   XXXXXXXXXX
                   CC                          XXXXXXXXX
                 CC                              XXXXX
                            HcHcHcHc
                            HcHcHcHc
                                              XAlvenArcherX
as you see... this is a end way :-), i have the banner that let me
move in forest at fullspeed.. but my second line knight remain
out of forest sigh.. and he give a flank charge to both the champ
and the elite chaos.. so no way there...
I decide that a glorius (and useless.. :-( ) charge was the only way
to try to keep some bastard down...
the charge does 0 kill.. and he killed 1
he have to do the Discipl. test and he passed on.
my ballista kill NONE
my bowmen kill 1 hound on right side..sigh really bad dice...
seaguard kill none
bowmen on left does 1 hit on one abominius
during his turn he side charge the knight, he does just 1
kill but i fail the test and my knight vanished cause he
flee to short.. (sigh)
the archer on right side was charged by 1 champ and the hounds,
i choose to stand and die (lol) and reduce to just 1 hound and
the champ the enemy that attack me...
he kill 2 bowmen, i fail the discipline need 7 roll 8 , and flee too 
short...
bye bye bowmen...
his mages kill half my light cavalry and his pyrodaemn reduce my right
scout to 2 guys...
my turn (i just feel baaaad :-)) )
i move to face the charge of the cavalry with my poor spearmen and 
swordmasters...
my ballistae kill NONE
my bowmen kill NONE  (also with the reroll for the missing arrows)
my mage kill 2 chaos knight (khaine spells) reducing one of his group to 2
my seaguard kill NONE...
my left bowmen hit abominus for another hit... (having 1left now)
ok i'm doomed and it was late on night (about 1 am... and i need to wake 
up on 6.30 am..) so we decide that i really lost, but for curiosity we
do the next chaos phase...
resuming he slay all the swordmasters with a combo charge of his 
commander (on flank) his elite knights and harpy (on flank)...
and ok.. we see that the match end :-) but we try to do the elven turn
(really fast just to see what i can kill.. and my ballistaes DOES NONE
kill again :-)) ) last mage does 0 kill with khaine... so this is...
as we said in italy "it's raining on wet soil.."
i repeat, this was a friendly match, we just try to set up balanced but
we both have a decent knowledge only of chaos pro and cons
so.. i think i need a different army to challenge him better.
As conclusion i can say that:
my ballista was the useless almost as the swordmasters...
bowman cant kill light armored enemy cause the ground emplacement.. (not
my fault :-) )this is part of the fun of random scenarios so it's ok, 
and having as only good target hound and chaos knight they have unlucky
shot on hounds and normal (no effect :-) ) shot on knight.
the only troop that i kill was one abominus that charge the archer on
left.. they choose to stand and shot and the last dice strike a 6 and 6
:-) .
mages with high magic without the possibility of choose spells (seer 
option 30 pts) are useless... (damn! )
but maybe the boss mage can be made NOT highmage but what?
any suggest?
any comment?
:-)
Ergo

Ergo ha scritto:
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scusate! ERRORE DI NG!

scusate! ERRORE DI NG!
E di quote no ??? 
No dico  .. ti auto quoti il mega pippone per dirci una cosa che
avevamo gia' capito, in UNA riga ???????
Azzz ...
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> ecc. ecc. ecc.
Azzarola, ieri notte sono stato a giocare a RTCW fino alle 4.30 ma tu sei 
messo molto molto peggio. Ma quanto ci hai messo a scrivere un messaggio 
così?
Che gioco è?
Ciao
Luca

 Che brutte cose...
mi cospargo il capo di bit... nella fretta (visto che mi sono reso conto
del primo errore appena premuto send) ho ripremuto reply e mi sono
scusato (ahahah doppio cappello.. :-) )
Ergo

 Luca
Ma te hai fatto piu' tardi di me :-)
Ciao
Ergo

amichevolmente....
se ti "leggo" lamentare del lavoro che fai e di quanto poco ti pagano per
farlo.... riposto il tuo messaggio....
...e magari sono anche convinti che, scrivendo questo msg, tu stessi
lavorando al computer ....
vergogna !
;-D
Ciao
--
smalldgo
"le donne delle pulizie ieri sera hanno sradicato una scatola della presa
della corrente nel mio ufficio e adesso e' a penzoloni In piu' non si riesce
piu' a chiudere la porta perche' gratta col pavimento sembrerebbe mancasse
una rondinella"

 vergogna !
:-)) no aspetta.. stava compilando :-)))
cioe' ho rilanciato la compilazione di samba di un vecchio server (e' 
uscita la 2.2.7) e stava facendo il suo lavoro (lentamente ma 
costantemente) .. nel frattempo ... che devo fa'?? guardo scorrere il gcc???
siccome ieri ne ho buscate di brutto (come si legge nel lungo rapporto 
OT) chiedevo se qualche genio di quel gioco (io sono un imbranato, e
vado a giocare da un amico che come si dice.. sa' parecchio :-) )
aveva idee in merito, magari per non buscarne cosi' di brutto alla 
prossima...
p.s. Fai conto che se ieri era una partita di calcio le squadre erano
borgorosso (io)
brasile (lui)
:-)
Ergo
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 Ergo
Ciao
Luca

 Non per tirarmele ma dopo sta fatica sono 8° in classifica mondiale. :-)))))
ROFL !
quindi se ti trovo devo scappare e/o giocare con la tua squadra? :-))
ciriciao!
Ergo


Questo messaggio lo forwardo al moroso, che vive con me e si lamenta che io
NON GIOCO ABBASTANZA A QUAKE o UNREAL...dico...abbiamo una lan in casa e
oltre la 1 di notte io non ce la faccio :(( ...e ha da ridire...
Mò gli spiattolo le vostre mail così si rende conto che nelle coppie normali
non funziona propriamente come da noi quindi non deve più permettersi di
lamentarsi...
Ahhh quanto vorrei avere per compagno un intellettuale anziche un simpatico
Geek :)))
Ciao Shiva

 simpatico Geek :)))
HAAAAA blasfema, ritira subito sai.  
Ciao
Luca
PS: oggi torna la morosa, meno male non ho più l'eta per vivere in quel 
modo.