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Titolo: Chakotay sputa nel piatto in cui mangia...ma in fin dei conti potrebbe aver ragione

Ecco cosa ha avuto modo dire Robert Beltran, interprete del Comandante
Chakotay nella serie Voyager, durante le varie recenti convention
inglesi....
"I would have to say that Robbie, Garrett, Tim and myself are very
close. Just because we spend so much time on the bridge doing
nothing."
"I don't mean to denigrate my work in Voyager and I'm not saying
anything that probably the rest of the cast wouldn't say either, but
you know Star Trek is pretty much a formula show, and the episodes
that we've seen on Voyager are pretty mush variations of the same
episodes from Deep Space Nine or the Next Generation. And so it's
limiting in some ways. I appreciate the fact that people appreciate
the show and that's the main thing, it doesn't matter what we think
about it."
"So I would have to say honestly that for probably the last two or two
and a half years I haven't quite read a full Voyager script. It's not
necessary because I already know what's going to happen. I don't want
to put myself to the aggravation. But then again it's not my show, so
they can do whatever they want, but that doesn't mean that I have to
be enthusiastic about it."
"I think our writers are that far from brain damaged. I don't get
them. "
[On watching Star Trek:] "Not on my life! No, I didn't, because when
the original show came on, I always thought they were kind of goofy.
Those ugly yellow shirts, and those boots. And William Shatner, when
they were attacked and the ship was rocked, the way he used to react.
It just seemed a little too phoney for me. And I never watched any of
the Star Trek movies because I knew they came from the Star Trek
series. So I wasn't going to go out and buy a ticket. The first Star
Trek movie that I saw was "Generations." I liked it, and everybody
said (incredulous voice) "You like THAT one? There are five or six
that are much better than that." And since then I've seen a few "Next
Generation" episodes that I liked, and a couple of "Deep Space Nine".
I'm waiting for good Voyager episode. I hope one comes up soon." 
"I have a sneaking suspicion they'll end up killing me off. [...] I
think they will, I think they'll do something drastic to push the
ratings because it's going to take something drastic. I won't be
sorry. I think they could very well kill off one or two of us, maybe
Neelix and me, I think it's a distinct possibility, because we seem to
be superfluous to the show."
"To be honest with you, I haven't read a Voyager script all the way
through for about two years now. I read my scenes. And unless they
tell me I'm going to die in this particular episode, then I don't see
any big change I need to know about. [...] I think the only one who
reads the scripts any more is Kate. I'm sure she does (Janeway voice)
"There's not enough lines in here for me. What's that Seven of Nine
line doing there. That's my line!" Picardo does, because he's the same
way. (Picardo voice) "That's a funny line but its not mine." Garrett
probably does too because he's always trying to ingratiate himself
with the producers. You all look so lovely and fun, having fun. It's
great to see all of you. So I don't read the scripts any more very
often because I know what's going to happen. It's all been done
before. It's a variation on a variation on a variation, so
consequently when I show up on the set I know my lines just long
enough to say them and forget them immediately. So if we need one or
two takes more that I'd planned for I'm in trouble, and the other
actors know this and they're like, (agonized voice) "Oh, say the lines
perfectly or they'll make us do it again!" But what can I say? If
you're not inspired to learn the lines, it doesn't matter. Because you
can't tell from the final product--I don't think--because eventually
they get a tape they can use, and you've said your lines right.
Eventually everybody's happy. I'm sure there's some guy in a factory
in Detroit whose sees a little nick on the bolt and goes "Shall we
start the car all over again?" It's the same thing. It's a factory. "
[On what he will do once Voyager ends] "Celebrate. Celebrate long and
hard. As soon as they say "That's a wrap," off with the uniform, open
a big bottle of some kind of spirits. If you're in town you can join
me. I'm just looking forward to getting on to...something. I enjoyed
the first three, maybe four years, but the last two have been pretty
tedious for everyone except... you fill in the blanks."
[On whether he feels relief or pleasure when an episode wraps.] "It's
both. The attention span on the show is about that big (indicates
about a millimetre) and Kate gets pretty fed up about it, but she
can't do anything about it, because she doesn't scare me...So, yes my
attention span is about that long and anything will set me off.
There's an outtake reel that's going to be very valuable some day of
all the sort of crazy stuff that happens. "
"It went wrong almost immediately when Genevieve Bujold left the show.
I really wanted to work with her. I had a small crush on her, from
"Anne of the Thousand Days". She's such a terrific actress. It would
have been fun being her First Officer. Then I could have looked at her
like Nancy Reagan at Ronnie all those years. So when Genevieve left we
were wondering who was going to be the Captain, and they came up with
Kate, which worked out well. You see, they panicked because Genevieve
is an actress that doesn't do the obvious thing. So it came to a head
when there was a scene where she had to give the word to destroy
something, and she didn't really want to do it but she had to, so the
way Genevieve did it was that she was standing on the bridge looking
at the view screen (agonized look) and she did something like (sigh,
pained whisper) "Fire", and they're used to the Captains going "FIRE!"
A sensitive captain? No, can't have that. So now they're stuck with
Janeway, who cries..... "
IMHO alcune di queste considerazioni sono giuste, ma sicuramente non
se fossi un attore non mi vorrei mai trovare a lavorare con qualcuno
che abbia un simile atteggiamento. Anche perchè sembra che sia il solo
membro del cast a pensarla così.
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Leggera rettifica..sembra che le cose sul set vadano in maniera
diversa.. ...
Q:     On Voyager, which people would you say you've got along with
really well? 
RB:     Our cast all get along very well. We do. We are a pretty close
group. I would have to say that Robbie, Garrett, Tim and myself are
very close. Just because we spend so much time on the bridge doing
nothing. I would say that we are probably the closest on the set. Also
because our trailers are very close together. But it's also because
the four of us are crazy and try to top each other all the time. 
 
Q:     Any memorable moments on the set? 
RB:     Well, yeah, six years worth! There are a lot that stand out,
because we make it a point to make our ten, twelve, fifteen hours on
the set as fun as possible. Otherwise we would all have quit a long
time ago. But it's kind of hard to pinpoint. And there are kids here
too. That's very limiting as far as telling some of our stories! But
take it from me we have a lot of fun. 
Ma i commenti negativi sullo staff creativo rimangono....e su questo
non penso che ci siano pareri contrari da parte di nessuno..
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membro del cast a pensarla così.
Ma tu le interviste di Patrick Stewart (Capitano Picard) le hai mai
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membro del cast a pensarla cosě.
Penso che il cast sia stato fin troppo zitto e buono durante le ultime
due stagioni di Voy e a giudicare dal notevole calo della qualita'
media degli episodi e dai disastrosi indici di ascolto Beltran ha
decisamente ragione.
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 proprio noiosi per tutti eccetto... completate voi."
 Preferiva Genevieve Bujold (che aveva il ruolo di Janeway, ma che ha
poi lasciato lo spettacolo.
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Non mi e' mai piaciuto, ne' mai mi piacera' :-)
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lette e/o sentite ?  :-DDD
Stewart non ha mai detto "che tocca fare per campare", mentre Beltran
IMHO lo lascia intendere tra le righe.
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IMHO lo lascia intendere tra le righe.
Anche Stewart lo ha detto invece ! Ha ammesso chiaramente che Star
Trek gli serve per tirare avanti la carretta (ma che lui detesta la
fantascienza in generale e lo show in particolare) mentre la sua
passione è orientata altrove.
Memoria corta, bimbi miei ! :-D
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Non mi e' mai piaciuto, ne' mai mi piacera' :-)
Il mio sentimento è ampiamente ricambiato nei riguardi della
Janeway/Mulgrew :-PPPPP
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 fantascienza in generale e lo show in particolare) mentre la sua
Mah!
Stewart ha detto che l'esperienza in TNG non gli è dispiaciuta affatto..
eran situazioni molto "teatrali" .. e poi han in effetti spesso citato
Shakespeare nella serie .. ^_^
Non so che pensa dei film di Star Trek che ha interpretato.. ma se pensa che
son brutti non posso che essere d'accordo con lui: sono decisamente più
piatti e noiosi delle serie tv..
Un film naturalmente non può avere la stessa dinamica di una serie tv.. però
allora tanto varrebbe puntare su adrenalinica azione pura, battaglie
spaziali.. phaserate impazzite...
Invece Insurrection mi ha fatto decisamente venire molto sonno... mentre lo
vedevo..
Per concludere.... visto l'andazzo di Voyager.. non posso che condividere
quel che Beltran ha detto nell'intervista...
La Mulgrew voleva addirittura mollare.. (chissà che cachet le pagano, ora
^__^) e Jeri Taylor ha mollato ^___^
ciao
christianB

 poi lasciato lo spettacolo.
chi è 'sta tizia ????
ciao
christianB

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(subliminal cirinci ?)
;)
ciao
christianB

Memoria corta, bimbi miei ! :-D
Cmq voleva essere un riconoscimento per Beltran, che con onestà parla
di un prodotto così così.
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prodotto nel suo genere, mentre Beltran dice che non lo è.
Ti credo !
Stewart ha girato TNG che E' un buon prodotto !
Senza contare che lui era il protagonista principale come capitano
quindi aveva sempre il maggior appoggio e la più grande attenzione da
parte degli sceneggiatori....che non si chiamavano Brannon Braga
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ad un passo dal danno cerebrale?  :O)
Piů o meno č cosě...posto adesso l'intero passaggio dell'intervista in
maniera che sia piů chiara:
Q:     What about the episode where Jennifer Lien came back? 
RB:     What they asked her to do with her character I didn't
understand. I think our writers are that far from brain damaged. I
don't get them. But we were happy to have her. She's great. We love
Jennifer. I wish she had never left the show, she's a really fine
actress. But it was just the same old indication of our writers and
producers having their head firmly up their collective ass. Sorry,
kids. You see, this will all get back to them that's why I'm saying
it. That's fine. Maybe they'll let me go by the middle of the season
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:58:35 GMT, 
Jinn (
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wrote:
| But it was  just the same old indication of  our writers and producers
| having  their head  firmly up  their collective  ass. Sorry, kids. You
| see, this will  all get back to them that's  why I'm saying it. That's
| fine. Maybe they'll let me go by the middle of the season
 Direi che  Beltran non  stai criticando lo  show: sta  proprio cercando
 tutti i modi per mollarlo...
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 tutti i modi per mollarlo...
Sì, anche secondo me è così..ma dal momento che gli mancano solo una
ventina di episodi, e contando il fatto che potrebbero esserci degli
sviluppi interessanti nel caso la Voyager tornasse a casa un po' prima
della fine della serie....
IMHO rimane fino alla fine..oppure "qualcuno" troverà qualche modo
idiota per farlo fuori..
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chi č 'sta tizia ????
Credo che ti sarebbe piaciuta! Ha girato diversi film, tra cui "Coma
Profondo". Imho č un vero peccato che abbia abbandonato il set :-((,
mi č sempre sembrata una scelta azzeccata come capitana della voy. 

 mi è sempre sembrata una scelta azzeccata come capitana della voy.
E fanno ben noto che solo te al mondo la pensi in questo modo ^_______^
Genoveffa Bugiolda... BAH! :-)
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Ma ti rendi conto che a Beltran scrivono delle parti insulse ?
Altrochč, e se ne rende conto pure lui e questo va a suo onore, non come
la Sirtis che rimpiange il suo ruolo :-)
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Ma ti rendi conto che a Beltran scrivono delle parti insulse ?
  Sei sicura che questa tua critica non sia del tutto spassionata?
;-)))
  Ciao :-)
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Genoveffa Bugiolda... BAH! :-)
Sempre meglio di Genoveffa Caterina! ^___^

;-)))
Si, perchè ho visto tutti gli episodi fino alla fine della sesta
stagione :-PPPP
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