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Titolo: George Lucas contamina Star Trek

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http://trekmovie.com/2007/07/02/ilm-to-provide-effects-for-star-trek-enterprise-to-appear-in-film/
TrekMovie.com has confirmed two things that should not come as a surprise
with regards to the new ‘Star Trek’ film in pre-production. Firstly we have
learned from a number of sources that George Lucas’ Industrial Light &
Magic (ILM) has been selected to provide the special visual effects for
Star Trek (2008). In keeping with the usual Star Trek secrecy neither
Paramount nor ILM will officially confirm it, however sources say that some
planning work on the effects has already started. Abrams has worked with
ILM before and the choice is another example of Abrams sticking with his
trusted Mission: Impossible III team. On the M:I:III DVD Abrams effuses
about how excited he was to work with ILM and how happy he was with their
work on the film. ILM also worked with the Star Trek writers/executive
producers Orci & Kurtzman on Paramount/Dreamwork’s summer blockbuster
Transformers. Although he wouldn’t confirm it, at the recent Transformers
junket Orci told TrekMovie.com that he ‘certainly hoped’ that ILM would
work on Star Trek. The choice of ILM shows that Paramount is giving Abrams
and his team the budget and resources to achieve their goal to
re-energizing the Trek franchise.
Trek and ILM have a long history going back to 1982 and Star Trek II: The
Wrath of Khan which was only their 3rd non-Lucas production (ILM lists the
CGI created Genesis effect in STII as one of their key technical
achievements). ILM also went on to do the effects for STIII, STIV, STVI,
Generations and First Contact. They also did the effects for the pilot of
The Next Generation. Since the late 70s ILM has been the gold standard for
visual effects racking up a number of Academy Awards. In addition to six
Star Trek films (and of course all six Star Wars films), ILM has worked on
most of the films of the last 25 years with space effects including Galaxy
Quest, The Chronicles of Riddick, Space Coyboys, Deep Impact, Starship
Troopers, E.T. and of course Spaceballs.
ILM packs the ships into this shot from Star Wars Episode III
We will see the Enterprise
The other non surprising but significant thing we can now confirm is that
the Enterprise (NCC-1701) will appear in the film. In the world of Star
Trek the ships and especially The Enterprise(s) are as beloved as the
heroes themselves. Since Star Trek (2008) is a prequel it was unclear if
the ship would make an appearance. Now we know that we will see Kirk, Spock
and the Enterprise in Star Trek (2008). Some version of an Enterprise has
appeared in every single Trek film (although the Enterprise A is only shown
briefly at the end of STIV, but in Generations you even had two
Enterprises: B & D). It is still unclear how big a role in the film the
Enterprise has in the new film, but bear in mind that the writers describe
the film as ‘a starship adventure.’
This will not be the first time ILM have worked on the NCC-1701 in a
feature film. The ‘refit’ version of the Enterprise (built for Star Trek:
The Motion Picture) appeared in the Star Trek II and Star Trek III (where
ILM showed the ship get destroyed…see below). ILM also worked with the
replacement Enterprise-A (Star Trek IV and Star Trek VI), and built the
(Excelsior class reuse) Enterprise-B (Generations), the Enterprise D (TNG)
and Enterprise E (First Contact). Of course almost all of ILM’s previous
Trek work (and even some of their work on M:I:III) was model work, but a
year ago they sold their model shop making ILM all digital (although they
still work with their former model shop on some shots).
The end of the NCC 1701 (STII:TSFS)…will we see the beginning?
What will it look like?
The Original Series design for the Enterprise has never been seen in a
feature film. When they made Star Trek: The Motion Picture the ship was
‘refit’ to make it look better on the big screen. That is explained away
because the ship was literally put into spacedock to get an upgrade. The
Enterprise for the new Star Trek will be from the time around or before the
The Original Series. Of course, even the original model went through some
minor changes throughout the three seasons…most notably the switch away
from the pilot version’s pointy nacelle caps. The current ‘Star Trek
Remastered’ project approaches creating a digital version of the Enterprise
(pictured below) with the brief to make it match as closely as possible to
the original. However, that project is literally replacing shots from
within the original show whereas the film is a stand-alone piece.
Therefore, Trekkies should probably expect some level of changes with
regards to the new Enterprise. Regardless the new ILM Enterprise is sure to
spark just as much debate as the CBS-Digital Enterprise for TOS-R. To date
the film makers have not talked much about the look of the new movie, but
this issue is something they are pondering. Unlike their approach to the
story matching up with the canon, this section from an MTV interview with
the writers (and exec. producers) shows that they may be more flexible on
the look:
    We’re not going to start totally from scratch. We want it to feel like
it’s updated and of the now. That’s actually the discussions we’re having
now: how to keep the look of the universe yet have it not look like
nothing’s new. It’s tricky.
CBS-Digital Enteprise from Star Trek Remastered ("Mirror Mirror")
VOTE: How do you feel about change?
do you want to see the Big E exactly as it was, a new design…something in
between. Vote in the new Enterprise poll (right column)
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Jolan Tru, Filippo "Hytok" Simone
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Come mai sei triste riguardo cio?
A quanto pare Lucas ha gia' lavorato in Star Trek con la ILM, piu'
precisamente in Star Trek, l'ira di Khan, che a quanto ho letto e' uno
dei film piu' amati dai trekkers...
Su con la vita :-)
-- 
Walter Loggetti Aka Abulion Yorgen
http://www.associazioni.prato.it/ilcastello/

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Guarda che Star Trek e' "contaminato" dalla ILM da Star Trek II: the Wrath
of Khan.  
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Dovresti essere triste dal 1977, visto che e' stato il successo di Star Wars a 
far cancellare una serie di Star Trek e a trasformare il pilot in un film.
Ciao,
luigi
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> :-(
ma che stai dicendo?
Che la ILM (sempre sia lodata) curi gli effetti speciali del prossimo Star 
Trek non vuol mica dire che vi sia chissà quale intrusione di Lucas nel 
film, altrimenti dovremmo dirlo di decine (e decine) di film all'anno, visto 
che la ILM è la società leader del settore. Invece è una buona notizia, 
anche se la cosa non stupisce, visto che Star Trek e ILM sono un binomio 
ormai affermato. Negli ultimi due film la produzione si era rivolta ad altre 
compagnie, che pure hanno fatto un buon lavoro (buono, non ottimo), ma 
secondo me è un bene che 'stavolta la scelta si (ri)caduta sulla ILM. E poi 
è un ulteriore sintomo che si vogliono fare le cose in grande. Incrociamo 
dira e altre propaggini.
R. 

of Khan.
Lo so, ma mi secca che quel tizio debba guadagnarci da ST...
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 Lo so, ma mi secca che quel tizio debba guadagnarci da ST...
Oh, non e' che perche' uno si chiama Lucas deve lavorare gratis...
Non hai mai notato nulla nei titoli di coda di TNG?
Ciao,
luigi
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Non hai mai notato nulla nei titoli di coda di TNG?
Ehm... non ci ho mai fatto caso. Comunque, se la mia reprimenda al padre
dell'anticristo (star wars) ha portato una ventata d'ottimismo sul NG a
favore di ST XI... ben venga! :-DDD
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 Ehm... non ci ho mai fatto caso. 
E' citata la ILM, ma non ha mai prodotto un singolo effetto per la serie 
regolare, con l'eccezione di alcuni pezzi della sigla.
Ora hai una ragione in piu' per odiare il tuo nemico.
Ciao,
luigi
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Ora hai una ragione in piu' per odiare il tuo nemico.
Non esageriamo, esageravo un po' scherzando :-)
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 Lo so, ma mi secca che quel tizio debba guadagnarci da ST...
ROTFL !!!!
Quel tizio!?!?!?!
...perchè tanto odio nei confronti di Lucas ?
Guarda che il Primo film di Star Trek non lo avrebbero
mai fatto se Guerre stellari non avesse avuto tutto quel
successo...tu a Lucas dovresti baciargli i piedi....
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 successo...tu a Lucas dovresti baciargli i piedi....
C'è voglia di revival, a quanto pare.
K. 

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 delle riviste o quello su AFDigitale era vero?
Di cosa parli?
K.