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Titolo: I rimpianti di Braga sul finale di ENT

Disintegratelo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
E ha pure il coraggio di ammettere, dopo aver visto la quarta stagione di
ENT di Manny Coto, "forse avremmo dovuto realizzarla così fin dall'inizio".
'stardo.
http://trekmovie.com/2007/08/12/vegascon-07-braga-reflects-on-a-life-with-trek/
Brannon Braga was one of the few Trek writer/producers to appear at this
year’s Creation Las Vegas Star Trek Convention. Braga started off almost
reticent, telling the crowd "it has been many years and so I am a little
nervous." The veteran of Next Generation, Voyager and Enterprise made it
clear that although Trek was an ‘amazing experience’ which occupied most of
his adult life, he was not involved with Trek anymore and saw the con as a
‘nostalgic experience.’ After that, the Trek veteran’s appearance took on
the nature of an exit interview with Braga inviting the crowd to get it off
their chests:
    I wanted to stop by to say hi to you guys and to ask any last lingering
questions you had. This may be the last one I do so this is chance to get
out you final gripes and questions.
Wouldn’t change a thing…well maybe some things
Braga’s time as a writer/producer with Trek goes all the way to 4th season
of Star Trek: The Next Generation and continued with 104 episode writing
credits for on TNG, Voyager and Enterprise. He also co-wrote the first two
TNG feature films (Generation sand First Contact) along with Ron Moore.
During his tenure there were certainly highs such as the finale of TNG
("All Good Things") and First Contact, as well as lows (who can forget
Voyager’s Janeway and Paris evolve into lizard creatures episode
"Threshold"). Braga was asked if he had any regrets and if he had a chance
what would he do differently. His reply..
    I honestly have to say that creatively probably nothing. There are
certain episodes that are really stinky that I wish I hadn’t done, but how
can I go back and change that. There were also episodes that turned out
great that we thought were going to be terrible.
 
However, in subsequent questions the writer did seem to voice some regrets.
For example when talking about the controversial season finale of
Enterprise ("These Are The Voyages"), Braga seems to dislike it as much as
most of the fans: 
    I do have some regrets about that final episode. It didn’t quite
creatively align with the rest of the season. ….The final episode was very
controversial and I do have some regrets about it. What we were trying to
do was send a valentine to all the Star Trek shows. Enterprise just
happened to be the show on at the time and it turns out the episode was a
failure. It had some great stuff init and it was a cool concept, but it was
languid. I don’t know if it fully delivered and it really pissed off the
cast. It was a hybrid show. Rick [Berman] and I were involved in the
franchise for years (Rick for 18 - me for 15). We felt like we wanted to
send a valentine to the show, but I do concur it was not a complete
success. 
One controversial aspect of the finale however, Braga has no regrets for…
    It was the final episode, we knew the series was over and we could do
anything we wanted. Trip was always my favorite character on the show and I
wanted to….I just wanted to kill him. I cant give you a coherent response.
We wanted to do something that had emotional impact and had consequences
which is something we were never allowed to do. 
Braga also seems to agree with most fans regarding the direction Enterprise
went once he handed over the show running reigns to Manny Coto in the 4th
and final season, saying:
    I thought Manny Coto did a great job. One could argue that Enterprise
might have been that from the beginning. When I was seeing what Manny was
doing it was like “you know what? Maybe this should have been the show from
the start.” 
Of course it wouldn’t have been a Trekkie gathering if someone didn’t ask
Braga about canon and the perceived view that Enterprise violated canon by
having the Vulcans appear differently than they did on The Original Series
and subsequent series (and specifically having mind melds only being able
to be performed by a minority of Vulcans). On this issue Braga was firm
    Contrary to some people’s opinions we paid very close attention to
continuity. There has always been a perception that we spit in the face of
Star Trek canon and nothing could be further from the truth. One of the
biggest beefs is that we violated the Vulcan culture, that we did things
with Vulcans like the mind melds that clearly were not kosher with regards
to the Original Series. But remember, cultures change. This show took place
a long before the Original Series and Vulcan culture was different then. We
got to explore that Vulcan culture was not like it was by the time of
Kirk…in the same way that American culture is not the same as it was 200
years ago. Things change, technology changes…mind melds change.
    [and how did thing’s change to where all Vulcans could perform mind
melds?]
    They learned how…Community College!
Braga also defended the decision to have the prequel series appear more
futuristic than the show it preceded (in story arc, but not in real time).
However his explanation for the more advanced looking ship was more
pragmatic.  
    It is a paradox. How to make the show look cool by today’s standards
and yet not cheesy like some parts of the Original Series by nature of the
1960s designs. This is certainly something that J.J. Abrams is dealing with
and his prequel. You just have to bite the bullet and say that is probably
more important to make the show look cool than be completely accurate… We
certainly tried to make it look more futuristic than we have today, but
less than Kirk’s time. But look at the stuff they were using on that show.
They got communicators that are bigger than any cell phone. The laptops
they used on Voyager were gigantic…they were ridiculous. 
Regarding how the last two Trek show’s were treated on the new UPN Network,
Braga also found common ground with the fans…
    I think it damaged the show. If you don’t mind booting Brent Spiner
later on I could stay up here all day and talk about this one subject. I
think it hurt Voyager and much more with Enterprise, to be on a constantly
shifting fledgling network that in some parts it was on channel 92 if you
could find it and you needed the foil rabbit ears. Here we were shooting
this beautiful show and posting it in high def and people were watching it
on the crappiest stations imaginable. Tons of problems being on that
network. Also we didn’t have a lot of money to promote. So I don’ think it
was a great thing for the franchise. I cant blame it all on that. There
were other problems of course, but it was truly frustrating. 
One of the stranger questions was from someone who clearly was reading too
much slash fiction who asked why they never showed a romantic relationship
between Seven of Nine and Captain Janeway on Voyager. But Braga seemingly
somewhat endorsed the idea.
 
    There is nothing I would love to see more…maybe with B’Ellana. The
homosexuality issue was always one on the show, even since Roddenberry’s
time. As we understood it, it was Roddenberry’s feeling that ‘how would you
know if somebody was gay?’ It was so accepted in the future, that if you
try and dramatize it you just call attention to it. However, I still wish
we did something more overt. Regarding Seven and Janeway: no way. The
studio would not have let us…not with the captain. Plus it would have been
dangerous for Janeway…you don’t know what kind of borg implants are down
there.
It was not all critiques and canon nitpicks for Braga. A very young fan
came up to the mic to says “I just wanted to tell you I loved Enterprise -
it was my favorite show” and Braga joked “you are actually the first person
to say that…thanks.” But then thanked him sincerely and also seemed to be
genuinely touched by the young fan.
Braga left the stage with what seemed to be a farewell to Trek
    It has been an honor doing this work for you guys and I enjoyed it as
much hopefully as you enjoyed and I appreciate you coming very much. 
 
 
NOTE: I know that it seems to be some kind of accepted blood sport to rag
on Brannon Braga and Rick Berman. However (as I have noted before), Braga
was part of some of the best Trek ever. Besides the ‘highs’ Braga was
behind what are sure to be top episodes in each of the three series he
worked on such as TNG’s "Parallels," VOY’s "Year of Hell," or ENT’s "Zero
Hour." I wish many things (especially with VOY and ENT) were different (and
apparently he agrees), but I also try and look at his career with Trek in
the context of the full body of work. 
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 'stardo.
braga,brutta testa di cazzo.
spero che ti sodomizzino con un cannone laser!
(detto affettuosamente eh)
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(detto affettuosamente eh
Come non condividere lo sfogo...
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 Come non condividere lo sfogo...
oddio.. spero tu non ti riferisca a quello che verrà a Breaga dopo 
l'esperienza col cannone laser... ;-P
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l'esperienza col cannone laser... ;-P
LOOOOL
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 'stardo.
La quarta stagione non è la mia preferita, sinceramente ... non parliamo 
poi di Storm Front che mi viene ancora voglia di prendere a calci in 
culo Coto a due anni di distanza!!!
Manny Coto ha dato il colpo di grazia a Enterprise, a mio parere.
Lo dimostra il fatto che l'altra serie che ha fatto dopo Ent gliel'hanno 
cancellata dopo pochi episodi.
Non dico che Braga fosse un Dio, per carità ... ma ha fatto anche ottime 
cose. Quando penso a episodi come Azati Prime mi vien voglia di 
abbracciarlo.
Nep

abbracciarlo.
ROTFL
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 ROTFL
Ridi, ridi, invece di discutere gli episodi in modo adulto, ti limiti 
alla risatina. Si vede che non hai argomenti.
Nep

 alla risatina. Si vede che non hai argomenti.
Quali argomenti? Non hai detto che i gusti sono gusti?
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camera keep flicking off every time one of these characters shows
up? Must be one of those days I guess..."

 Quali argomenti? Non hai detto che i gusti sono gusti?
Eccone un altro che fa finta di non capire.
In una discussione adulta si direbbe qualcosa del tipo: come mai non ti 
piace la quarta stagione? Io trovo che sia la più bella per via di 
questo e quest'altro ecc. ecc.
Invece ci si limita a commentare: gusti strani.
Parlo male di Storm Front e benissimo di Azati Prime.
Risposta adulta: ma vedi invece io trovo che Storm Front sia bello per 
questo motivo e quest'altro mentre Azati Prime non mi ha entusiasmato 
per quest'altro motivo.
Invece ci si limita a scrivere: ROTFL.
A me non resta che scuotere la testa e dire che come non si hanno argomenti.
Nep

argomenti.
LOL
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 LOL
Poverino.
Nep

Poverino.
Ok ok.
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 Eccone un altro che fa finta di non capire.
Ho capito benissimo. Semplicemente non condivido. Hytok trova strani
i tuoi gusti, evidentemente molto diversi dai suoi, e lo fa ridere
il pensiero di Braga abbracciato da un fan di Star Trek... ma non
per fargli del male. Be', i gusti sono gusti, come dici tu. E il
riso non si spiega. Puoi criticare l'atteggiamento, ma il discorso
della mancanza di argomenti non regge.
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per quest'altro motivo.
  Bene, allora fai l'adulto e dicci cosa ti piace delle trame di Braga
ultrariciclate e ripetitive e cosa non ti piace dei tentativi di Coto
di riportare la storia nella continuity... <eg>
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cancellata dopo pochi episodi.
  Di quale serie parli? Lui e' stato produttore esecutivo di diverse
serie.
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 abbracciarlo.
che, SE NON SBAGLIO, è stato scritto da Coto :P
ciao
BLADELA
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