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Titolo: Star Trek XI e il vecchio continuum

http://lo-hobbit.blogspot.com/2009/05/cinema-star-trek-xi-e-il-vecchio.html
Cosa cambia con il nuovo film di Star Trek? Scopriamolo insieme (grazie a
Memory Alpha):
 * The tests the young Spock takes are a reference to the tests Spock in
the original timeline took in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home before he took
off to Earth.
 * The Kobayashi Maru test was also taken by Saavik in Star Trek II: The
Wrath of Khan. The newer film reveals how Kirk cheats on the test in this
alternate reality. It is also revealed that Spock was the one who designed
the test for the past few years. In Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, when
Kirk is discussing the test while in the Genesis cave, he is eating an
apple. In this film, when he's shown actually beating the test, he's also
eating an apple.
 * Hikaru Sulu reveals that his advanced combat training is in fencing.
Sulu is seen fencing in (TOS: "The Naked Time").
 * 47 makes two appearances, as the sector the Riverside Shipyards are in
and the number of Klingon ships destroyed in a battle with the Narada.
 * When Kirk and McCoy first see the Enterprise in space the scene
resembles the scene from Star Trek: The Motion Picture when the Enterprise
refit is shown for the first time.
 * Chekov's difficulty in pronouncing the letter V through his accent
("Victor Victor") is an allusion to the scene in Star Trek IV: The Voyage
Home where he has difficulty pronouncing "nuclear vessels."
 * The sequence where Nero forces the creature down Captain Pike's throat
is almost the same as the Ceti Eel sequence from Star Trek II: The Wrath of
Khan, even including similar dialogue.
 * After Spock maroons Kirk on Delta Vega, an incredulous McCoy asks him,
"Are you out of your Vulcan mind?" The original universe's McCoy used the
same line on Spock in The Original Series as well as prior to his
self-sacrifice in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.
 * At one point in the discussion on the bridge Spock says "If you
eliminate the impossible, whatever remains ï¿½ however improbable ï¿½ must be
the truth." referencing a line from Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
almost exactly. The remark ultimately derives from the Sherlock Holmes
stories and novels by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, which Data also referenced in
TNG: "Data's Day"
 * Even though Delta Vega shares a name with Delta Vega from (TOS: "Where
No Man Has Gone Before") it is in no way the same planet, as the two are in
completely different sectors of space.
 * Spock Prime tells Kirk "I have been, and always shall be, your friend.",
which is what he said to an older Kirk in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.
 * On Delta Vega, Montgomery Scott mentions that he had used "Admiral
Archer's prized beagle" to test his long-distance transporter theories,
though the beagle had yet to turn up as of his meeting with Kirk and Spock
Prime (which he speculated led to his "exile"). Writers Alex Kurtzman and
Roberto Orci have confirmed that this line was a reference to Star Trek:
Enterprise.[168] Jonathan Archer would've been 140 years old at the time of
Scotty's exile, but humans are long-lived in Star Trek, and even if he had
passed away, Starfleet service tends to be a family tradition. The beagle
can't possibly be Porthos, who would have to be 108 (human) years old at
the time, but the reference is obvious.
 * When the younger Spock approaches the pilot's seat in the Jellyfish, the
location's design is that of the IDIC, a symbol of the Vulcan people. Also,
in reaction to the ship's controls, Spock says "Fascinating..."
 * At the end of the film, Admiral Christopher Pike is in a wheelchair.
This is a reference to Fleet Captain Christopher Pike from the original
timeline who was crippled by delta radiation when a baffle plate had
ruptured and then confined to an advanced wheelchair. The Admiral's uniform
worn by Pike is similar to that worn by Admiral James T. Kirk in Star Trek:
The Motion Picture. (TOS: "The Menagerie, Part I", "The Menagerie, Part II")
 * Spock Prime (Leonard Nimoy) recites the famous "Space, the final
frontier..." monologue at the end of the film for the first time since Star
Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.
 * Sarek's dialog to the child Spock, regarding logic offering "a serenity
humans seldom experience" originally appeared in the animated episode
"Yesteryear". Additionally, Sarek's explanation to Spock of why he married
Amanda, that it was "logical," echoes the same reasoning heard in TOS:
"Journey to Babel".
 * During all of the scenes in the USS Kelvin opening, the crew uses
communicators that are very similar to those used in The Original Series.
 * When Kirk enters the cadet shuttle, he cockily walks into a bulkhead.
This is what Scotty did in Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.
 * Nero's screaming "Spock!" was reminiscent of Kirk screaming "Khan!" in
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.
 * Spock's refusal to comment on Uhura's first name is likely a reference
to the dubious canonicity of the name prior to the film's release.
 * Chief Engineer Olson, who dies almost instantly on an away mission, is
conspicuously dressed in a red space jump suit.
 * Early on in the film Kirk is shown seducing an Orion woman, a nod to the
notion that Kirk sleeps with green alien women.
 * Uhura comments on that she decoded a message from a Klingon prison
planet, which may be a reference to Rura Penthe in The Undiscovered Country.
 * When Spock and Kirk reach the Starfleet outpost on Delta Vega, an alien
walks up to them and places his goggles on his forehead. The look of the
alien and his action with his goggles is very similar to the Kolarans who
ambushed Data, Worf and Picard on Kolarus III in Star Trek Nemesis.
-- 
Jolan Tru
Filippo "Hytok" Simone
http://perestroika.iobloggo.com/

 Memory Alpha):
Il tizio ha appena letto il capitolo "copia e incolla" del libro "computers for
dummies" o cosa?
Ciao,
luigi
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Non capisco....non sono cose che cambiano col nuovo film, sono citazioni e 
riferimenti alle precedenti produzioni Trek.
Io ne ho notata una che nell'elenco manca: all'inizio Kirk padre dice alla 
moglie 'Cameron' di affidarsi alla dottoressa Chapel.
Ciao, Ciro

 riferimenti alle precedenti produzioni Trek.
Infatti, su Memory Alpha il titolo della pagina originale è
"References to previous Star Trek episodes and films, and other
media".
Mi sa tanto che nella fretta di copiare ed incollare, l'autore del
blog si sia un po' scordato di... leggere quello che copiava ed
incollava! :-)
Ciao!
Giank
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