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Titolo: Faulkner :  I think it's fairly clear from the attacking nature of the Sweden-Denmark match that both were going for victory.

UEFA spokesman says that DK-S was a fair game, and consider to take
diciplinary action against Carraro and Buffon because of their acusations.
http://www.football365.com/euro_2004/group_c_news/story_116163.shtml

 
http://www.football365.com/euro_2004/group_c_news/story_116163.shtml
LOL. Carraro is a buffon.

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Some british footballfans comments to the match...
http://www.football365.com/euro_2004/group_c_news/story_116085.shtml

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Here is another good one
http://www.football365.com/euro_2004/group_c_news/story_116164.shtml
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Cue all the talk of a fix and plot. Highlights of the Scandanavian clash
were scrutinised, with smooth, well-dressed TV presenters desperately
searching for evidence of foul play, or a stitch-up. Did the Denmark keepr
flap a soft hand a this shot? Could the defender have made more of an effort
to stop Sweden's leveller for 2-2? All nonsense.
The more intelligent, serious fans knew that it was all Italy's fault they
were out. Cautious, at times lethargic, depending on consistent under
performers like Del Piero, and complex characters like Vieri. This failure
was made in Italy, and nowhere else.
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 mandolino and eat spagehetti, you know ...   :)
Ciao KGB
No reason to apologise for english e tuo inglese e piu bene than mio
Italiano. Ho letto un po Italiano, ma molt'anni fa, e non ricordo piu.
I saw the silly insutl exchange at dk.sport.fodbold about Mandolino and
Spaghetti, but I didn't participate in that thread.
Anyway, to the point now.
No, I honestly don't think (even just a tiny little bit) there are any
doubts about the match, and I'll try to explain why.
- Most grounds for acusing the match to be fixed gave been "just because..."
- 2-2 is not a more strange result than so many other results (see my 2-2 is
normal result thread)
- Main complaint from Italian side have been than Denmark should have scored
more goals than just 2 -> Italy expect denmark to be much better than
themselves. Not fair to us!
- Another maincomplaint is that we didn't played our chance, which I find a
silly statement, most of all because we really played our chance well, and
furthermore because this acusation contradicts the other that we should have
scored more.
- The Italian players acused danes for cheating right after the match,
but...Italia played against Bulgaria same time, so how could the italian
players have seen our match?? I completely refuse to take any complains
serious from people (the Italian players) as long as they complin without
having seen the actual match.
- Italians complain that Sweden made 2 goals against us. Well, till now
Sweden have been the most scoring team, so 2 goals are not much. Right
before EC2004 our last 2 friendshipmatches were against Estonia (the
superpower in football) and even they scored 2 times against us. Croatia
scored 2 times against us as well.
- When 2 teams that plays against exacother are happy for same result, it's
obvious that they don't fight seriously anymore, the moment that result is
achieved (last few minutes).
- An Italian journalist was sending fake faxes and envelopes to both the
danish and swedish teams to prove the imagined conspiracy. All he achieved
was rediculing himself. If there have been something arranged, there would
be a bigger chance that the journalist would have got what he came
for....the reveal of our grand conspiracy.
- Till now, I don't remember ever having heard about a match with danes
where it have been "fixed".
- If someone would try to "fix" anything, he would be banned for football
forever here. Seriously...banned forever in big disgrace..... Big risk to
take, no??
- I find it hard to imagine how it would be possible to "arrange" anything.
Who?? Who are involved??
- As written in the links above, it was told about some big chance we
(danes) had at the end of the match, where the Swedish goalkeeper saved the
shots. Would we still attack when being 2-1 in front, if things had been
fixed??
- Even if (that 0.000001% risk) it was fixed, wouldn't you think we would
give a shit about such arrangement, when we are in front? Why should we
stick to our imagined dirty plan, when having the chance to be
groupwinners???
- It have been argued that danish supports have written 2-2 on banners. So
what??? Was it the supporters that have fixed the match?? What influence or
knowledge could they have at all at the match??
I'm sure you can find 1 or 2 indicators that you feel it was wrong,
but....look above.... If you can find 1-2 arguments saying "fix" and if I
can find 14 that says "ok", I dare to stick to my okay match conclusion.
The british from the side I refered to can be considered to be neutral
football interrested people. Look at neutral peoples opinion.
Ciao and the best of luck
Adrian

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If you've read the threads before your stupid post, you should've seen that
we don't mind if Denmark and Sweden have done their own fair game.
Assuming that thay have done it and only a cretin could deny it.
We know by ourselves that Trapattoni is a dork, Del Piero and Vieri have
failed, and that we deserved to go back home.
So there's no reason for you monkeys and deers and dancing bears from
who-knows-where to come here showing us that animals can use a PC.
We know how to play guitar, bass, drums and yes, even mandolino.
You barely can play with your tiny dick so shut the fuck up, turn your ass
away and go back in the sewer where you come from.
It's a sad thing to see that only mongoloids comes from all over Europe.
The ones we have here in Italy are just enough.

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Thanks for your serious dispute of my arguments.
You really managed to convince me now :o)
Arriverdici amica mia,
Adrian

 The ones we have here in Italy are just enough.
Yeah, one is always one too many...
Cheers
Adrian

 However i belive you are a moron , so play with the sputotti .
I wrote a list before with 14 points that talks in favour for a fair match.
Till now you only spout of utter nonsense, and have not argued just one of
the 14 points.
Adrian

doubts about the match, and I'll try to explain why.
You are so true.
Anyway, we do not want Jorgensen and Kroldrup to play for us any more.
They'd better stay where they are, in Danemark. 

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Short reply before 2nd half of Portugal - England (Great match btw)
About fax
Bottom of the site
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/tm_objectid=14357294&method=full&siteid=89488&headline=football--euro-2004--euro-2004-diary-name_page.html
and  
http://www.cphpost.dk/print.jsp?o_id=79420
More later
Adrian

 Some particulars (name, Newspaper, ecc) about this "man" ?
The links from the other day was what I could find. No names....
Hope you still enjoy the EC2004 even you don't enjoy it with the heart
anymore.
Cheers, and the best of luck
Adrian

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Ok then why did scandinavian supporters of both sides have banners with "2 -
2" and "bye bye italy" written in huge characters? Didn't they make them
BEFORE the game?