Newsgroup: it.sport.calcio
Titolo: Response for everybody

What a load of responses!!! I didn't know I could create such passion.
I won't respond to all your posts (there are too much). But I'll try to
clarify some things.
I never said that Italy was not good in history of football. Far from
that. I just say that today it is not that good. And my general rule
about importation and exportation is still true (Of course, there are
exceptions. And they confirm the rule, as we say).
Someone spoke about the results about french squad BEFORE 1998. He said,
it was shit before. What a mistake! How can he write that. Just look at
the statistics : I don't really remember but it is only 3 defeats in 4
years. YES 3 DEFEATS IN FOUR YEARS!!
Pelé, Cruyff, Beckenbauer before the world cup : "the final will be
between France and Brazil"
Zico (litteraly): "If we continue to play like that (Brazil), only
France will be able to beat us". I think it's enough.
Who bet a penny about Italy during the world cup??
This is the main shocking observation I've readen. This is not the only
one. Someone wrote a list about domination of Italy in many sport. What
a joke!! I can do it myself. I am not nice, and sorry for the italian
people that I love:
Water Polo (what a joke) : Italy
Eating pasta : Italy
Economy : France
Army : hum... er...
Worldwide influence : hum...
Number of people speaking french/italian : hum...
Global wealth of the population : hum...
Influence in Europe : France (but not that important)
Corruption of politicians : draw
penetration of new technologies : hum...
Money in football : Italy
Cheating and provocating in football : Italy
Technique, tactic, strenght, ability in football : France (for now)

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>Technique, tactic, strenght, ability in football : France (for now)
You really don't know what you're talking about !!  Platini, Deschamps and
Zidane, always say that they learned tactics in Italy....Simone and
Ravanelli who play in the French championship say always that France
football is naive...
In England there is one way to play, in Germany, teams are very good on a
physical level....what else ?
Tactics was born in Italy...stereotypes about cheating is always present in
the stupid's minds...

Ravanelli : "I will be happy to play against an italian club in C3. It
will be a pleasure to show them how we're strong. I think the french
championship is as good as italian one. And I want to show that to my
"compatriotes"".
L'Equipe, 15 december 1998.
English football is naive, ok, but not french one. We just lack a bit of
moral strenght. But this is a stereotype that is now dead with the
victory in the world cup.
But you're right, italian football is very tactic. Maybe too much.
Because sometimes, the result is a boring match and the end at
penalties.

Technique, tactic, strenght, ability in football : France (for now)
Quel beau jugement objectif.
Nombre de trophees gagnes par la France? Par les clubs francais?
Nombre de trophees gagnes par l'Italie? Par les clubs italiens?
On en reparlera.
You are ridiculous.
It's always the same with people like you who post this kind of stuff.
Amazingly enough, it's often french people who talk about italian
sports. I saw that hundreds of times on that shitty place full of
assholes called 'fr.rec.sport.football.'
It's always the same: you start saying that france is good, and Italy
is not so good, and then as soon as someone replies and make you see
that what you say is a bunch of crap, then you go down to the most
stupid things, such as the ridiculous list you just made up.
How old are you?
Please, go back to your french football NG. You don't know anything
about football, nor about Italy. Now that France is the world champion
- thanks to the players WE made strong in our clubs - French peope
believe that they can teach everyone else what football is.
France won't even be at Euro2000 and we'll have a good laugh and we'll
get back to what we were doing before 1998, that is playing football
without even considering the French.
You should show your ridiculous posts, and that beautiful list you
made, to your girlfriend from Napoli. If she exists. I would be happy
to see her reaction. She hates padanian nationalists, well she's
right. She should hate French stupid chauvinists like you too. You
jerk.
Ok, maintenant tu arretes de nous gonfler avec tes conneries et
retourne jouer avec tes potes demeures dans le bac a sable de FRSF.
Adieu.

Technique, tactic, strenght, ability in football : France (for now)
You french can't talk about anything concerning Italy without
recalling these cliches. You are really, really sad and ridiculous.
YOu shouldn't make a fool of yourself like that.
What are we talking about here? Football, and sports right?
So why are you telling me about corruption and eating pastas? Do you
realize how offensive is that, you stupid jerk?
And don't start yellling, I won't appologize, you started insulting
me, and Italians in general. I am just replying to you, because you
are a ridiculous child.

Hé! Du calme mon vieux! Y a pas mort d'homme. Je ne savais pas que tu
serais blessé à ce point. Tiens, d'ailleurs c'est moi qui m'excuse. Et
je le fais d'autant plus facilement que j'aime beaucoup les Italiens.
Excuse moi de m'être emporté. Mais tu n'as sans doute pas lu les
précédents messages qui m'étaient adressés. Reconnais tout de même que
les Italiens sont bien arrogants avec leur football, alors j'ai pas pu
m'empêcher...
Et puis tu sais, le newsgroup fr.rec.sport.football, il est ni meilleur
ni pire que le tien. C'est toujours Marseillais enculés, Parisiens
enculés et ici c'est partout cazzo, culo et va fanculo. Je crois que les
supporters sont aussi cons partout dans le monde.
Voilà, j'espère que tu ne m'en voudras pas et que l'on pourra discuter
normalement...
PS : tu es italien ou moitié italien?

Et je n'ai jamais dit du mal de Jacquet. J'ai toujours admiré cet homme.

Who bet a penny about Italy during the world cup??
italy whipped out of the World Cup.... everybody could have been
betting it. I did and I won. 
Don't forget they called the italian team  
"the Shame of the World Cup"
This mercenary team went to France just because the business. 
Have you ever seen the begining of a game of italy? 
Nearly every team showed a real love for his own country, own land and
nation and the italian.....
Get a smile, the best they showed was: chew a gum, warm up, thinking
about the money they got, looking at the non-sense T-shirt they were
dressing. 
Why? Nobody there really cared about this dead country. The only
reason was (and is) their own professional career. 
So without love, without identity what do you expect?
Claudio
Repubblica Federale Padana
Padania Sport 
http://www.bigfoot.com/~PadaniaSport
Per altre notizie di calcio (e non)
leggi il quotidiano "laPadania" on line
http://www.lapadania.com/
e ascolta 
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http://www.leganord.org/rpl/radio.htm

 dressing. 
Dear Claudio,
what are you writing?
why you write?
please, tell me why you work... for the glory? For the nationalism,
or for the retribuction, at the end of the month?
The football player are workin', and is absolutly normal that they
are payed... what do you mean?
you're, how always, a man who try to insert political in every discussion,
you are only funny, comical...
(and now, don't insist to say: "I don't talkin' ever of politician" ...)
Claudio, GO HOME!
Best regards,
Lutor
P.S. Se andate a leggere il regolamento dei NG sotto il dominio "it", noterete
che non è concesso il prolungare thread in lingue che non siano l'italiano.
E non è un regolamento xenophobo, ma soltanto mirato all'ordine.
Perciò facciamola (io compreso) finita tutti. Se "Couture" vuol continuare a
frequentarci, dovrà provare a scrivere in italiano, come io quando vado a
frequentare NG non italiani mi ADEGUO!
Poi ho letto un suo messaggio in italiano, ed è comprensibilissimo... quindi
non diamogli spago...ma esortiamolo a quanto ho appena scritto.
...a iniziare da me!
Grazie.
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Dear Couture,
now I'm trying to talk english, so excuse me for my poor expressions.
How you had certain see, this News Group is called it.sport.calcio,
where "it" mean this is a NewsGroup "ITALIAN speaked".
When I frequent a News Group "English speaked", I MUST talk in english,
do you understand me?
So, I've read one your message, where you had try to write in ITALIAN,
and is not so bad. Now, if you want, I incite you to continue posting
in ITALIAN languge, for a best order, for respect the News Group's
regulation, and for respect who don't understand english.
I'm sure that you understand me,
so I wanna thanks you for your dedication, about that.
It's an opportunity for you! You can learn ITALIAN, in a practice mode!
;-)
Best Regards,
Lutor
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jerk.
Yes, you'd show to your girlfriend how polite are the italians just
because you wrote your opinion in this newsgroup. 
I'm really sorry to see this expression of racism (against french,
padanian, etc.) but unfortunately this is the way of most of the
italians do.
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>Grazie.
Questo era rivolto ANCHE a te!
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Claudio
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victory in the world cup.
You should thank a lot of players who learned football in
Italy...Platini, Deschaps, Zidane, Thuram, Boghossian etc. were almost
nothing: in Italy they won prizes etc. etc.
Look for Platini interviews and let me know...
Davide M.
Juve Forever !
-Bergamo-
ICQ: 16363492

not what the padanians think about french people.
Padania does not exist.
Except in your mind...and who cares ? Go on and make Europe laugh.
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 replying just in english.
peccato che tu le regole non puoi stabilirle...ti DEVI attenere al
regolamento dei NG sotto il dominio "it", in cui una regola chiarissima
dice che vi si deve parlare in ITALIANO, quindi rispondi in
italiano, e soprattutto rispondi alle mie DOMANDE!!!!
Codardo!
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Ipocrisy... that's fun.
 After Coutore's got insulted by many of these "very" polite italians,
now you're asking him to judge the italian costitution and the Rights
in this dead country.
Well I think you misunderstood my words.
I'm not talking about "cut" any messages or part of them, but to let
Couture find out what happens with it's thread. He wrote "Response for
everybody", not you, so he's the right (al least between polite
people) to understand the answers.
Bye
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Except in your mind...and who cares ? Go on and make Europe laugh.Davide M.
Don't worry, Couture can read with his own eyes what the italiota are
writing and how polite they are. 
Believe me, the last thing he's doing is laughing.
Shame is the right word about you. 
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Best Regards,Lutor
Couture, the rule to use italian language in a hierarchy "it."
nowadays can be compared only with the existence of sharks in the
Mediteranean sea (!! As you know there're a lot of reports about
people being bitten by them every year @#%!!).
Not only, but in this specific newsgroup is a very widespread practice
write in southern languages, but nobody has never complained about it.
To us, padanian, this message looks like a polite form of racism to
force someone to get out from the newsgroup just because you've got
your own opinion. 
If they are not interesting in your messages they just can avoid to
read and reply to them, that's all.
So don't bother these italiota, you're welcome like everyone else.
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Carissimo "Claudio", il 05-Apr-99 12:44:51 esponevi i seguenti concetti:
[...]
Innanzitutto falla finita di rispondere in inglese.
Secondo poi, ESIGO tue risposte alle domande del mio post che hai quotato,
a cui non hai minimamente dato risposta.
Perciň, onde evitare l'ennesima figura da fantoccio, degnaci delle tue
"argute" risposte.
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anzi, te le riporto nuovamente, cosě ti risparmio la fatica di cercarle:
 Domande:
1) Queste ILLAZIONI (o meglio scorregge mentali) come le definiresti, caro
   ipocrita? (riferite al messaggio precedente)
2) Per quale motivo ci chiami "italioti"?
3) Come mai membri della tua padania, politicizzano nel parlamento ITALIANO?
4) Come mai nei tuoi post ci sono quasi esclusivamente OFFESE rivolte
   all'Italia e alla sua popolazione? (in cui rientri anche tu...)
5) Come mai storpi il nome Italia in i-TAGLIA?
6) Come pensi sarebbe trattato un tedesco, in un NG Inglese, che parli
   esclusivamente in modo sprezzante dell'Inghilterra?
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Attendo (anzi, esigo) RISPOSTE esaurienti, e non vaghe.
GRAZIE.
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 So don't bother these italiota, you're welcome like everyone else.
Questa tua viscida frase DENOTA il tuo essere ipocrita, e manipolatore di
concetti.
Couture ha capito benissimo quello che tu invece cerchi di alterare.
Qui è OVVIO CHE TUTTI siano bene accetti, ma è altrettanto OVVIO che ci si
deve attenere TUTTI a delle regole. La gerarchia "it." è usata PRETTAMENTE
per distinguere i NG per lingue utilizzate, e non per discriminare questi
o quegli utenti solo in base alla loro nazionalità.
Quindi sia me che te, essendo ITALIANI, non discriminiamo Couture, ma lo
esortiamo a parlare nella lingua MADRE di questo NG, quella poi che usi anche
TU, l'Italiano.
Se poi io e/o te frequentiamo un NG con la gerarchia "fr." ci adegueremo,
evitando il NOSTRO Italiano, e sforzandoci di scrivere in francese...
Se sei arrivato ad un così basso livello, pur di cercare consensi, caro lurido
verme, stai alla frutta. Non hai più nulla da dire. Sei il NULLA.
E come il nulla sei considerato.
IPOCRITA.
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TU, l'Italiano.
Mi pare evidente che Couture abbia chiaro, anche dal numero di risposte, che
egli e' ben accetto in questo NG, e' ben diversa la posizione che lo esorta
a postare i suoi messaggi in "italiano" visto che questo NG appartiene alla
gerarchia IT ed e' evidente che e' indirizzato a utenti di lingua italiana,
altri, che come lui, hanno postato in una lingua diversa hanno sempre
ricevuto la stessa risposta quella di adeguarsi al manifesto.
Con questo mi associo alla posizione di Lutor, ed e' chiaro che non mi
sembra che stiamo discriminando nessuno, anzi la discriminazione verrebbe
fatta nei confronti di chi, sottoscrivendo un NG it. si troverrebbe a
scaricare centinaia di Kb di messaggi in una lingua che non e' detto che
debba conoscere.
Ciao a tutti.
Andrea.

your own opinion. 
No, the unpolite attitude is continously posting off topic messages.
No one can prevent you from doing this, but you can't prevent people
from complaining.
Claudio Mantelli
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