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Titolo: Slovenians and Venetians are brothers or cousins?

The enigma of the Venetic script 1.
Recent discoveries and new hypothesis
The Venetic people entered Europe in 13th century BC, and spread in a 
great wave of migration from the Baltic Sea down through central Europe 
and the Apennine Peninsula almost as far as Sicily, establishing a 
number of flourishing cultures, among them Este in norther Italy
A number of archaeological discoveries give strong evidence that Este 
was an important centre of Venetic culture in 7th to 4th century BC, 
with a great shrine to the god (or goddess) Reitia and more importantly, 
a school for scribes. Among numerous finds that include small bronze 
statues, various tools and weapons, vases, clasps, money, were 200 
inscriptions in the Venetic script and the so-called Alphabet Tablets, 
which were thought to contain the key to the mystery.
Matej Bor, Slovenian poet and linguist had studied the problem of the 
Venetic script over a number of years.  In contrast to the prevailing 
opinion, he believed in the Slavic origin of the Venetic language 
(rather than Italic), He found enough indicators to warrant an 
investigation based on this premise.
As it sometimes happens, Bor was once more studying Tablet Es 24 
containing the mysterious word akeo, when he had a flash of intuition. 
The scholars had read the inscription of rows of identical letters 
starting from the bottom, and came up with the repetitions of akeo.
 
The Venetic Alphabet
Alphabet tablet Es 25(LLV) Museo Nazionale Atestino
 
Looking at the text, Bor suddenly had a new perspective: what if the 
inscription should be read from the top?  If he further left out the row 
of letters “o” as having only a separating function?  He tried it, and 
came up with an answer that made sense. The result was stunning and 
beyond expectations. He discovered a recognizable Slovenian verb, set 
out with grammatical forms still current in modern Slovenian.
E   E  E  E   E  E  E  E  E  E  E
K  K  K  K  K  K  K  K  K  K  K
A A  A  A  A A  A  A  A A  A
E  H  B  T  IS  R  Š  P  J  D  V
With the inclusion of the letters from the damaged part of the tablet, 
which Venetologists had already provided, and leaving out the top row of 
letters “o”, Bor got the following words:
Ekae, ekah, ekat, ekais, ekar, ekaš, ekap,
ekan, ekam, ekal, ekak, ekaj, ekad, ekav.
He made a further assumption that “e” is pronounced as “je” (ye as in 
yes), which is the case in Old Church Slavic (9th century) and in 
present day Russian. In Slovenian and Serbo-Croatian it is both spoken 
and written as “je”. The result were forms of the verb jekat (to cry, 
wail or mourn, eg. at a funeral), its meaning and endings still current 
in Slovenian and Serbo-Croatian:
jekat (inf), jekam (1st p. sg.), jekaš (2 nd p. sg), jekaj (imp. sg.),
jekal (past part. masc.), jekaje (present part.), jekah (aorist 1 st p. sg.)
Bor made another important discovery - a segment on Venetic phonetics, 
with consonants and tautosyllabic consonant pairs, such as kr, kn, kl, 
tr, tn, tl, sr, sn, sl, mr, mn, etc., another teaching tool.
Bor’s discovery of the verb jekat on the tablet Es 26(LLV) was of great 
significance in that it led to further investigation of the tablets and 
their function. The Slovenian linguist concluded that they were 
fragments or chapters on Venetic phonology and morphology – the remnants 
of a fairly sophisticated teaching tool, demonstrating an unexpected 
level of understanding of language structures.
Matej Bor proceeded to decipher other tablets and inscriptions, and 
found his hypothesis largely confirmed.  An expert in Slavic languages 
and Slovenian dialects, he was not only able to understand the 
inscriptions, but also found to his delight many words and structures, 
that are still in use today, in modern Slovenian literary language and 
in Slovenian dialects.
A very important conclusion can now be made regarding the Venetic 
language: it was Old Slavic or more precisely, proto-Slovenian, a 
precursor of the modern Slovenian language.
Aleksandra Ceferin, Thezaurus (Melbourne 2000)
From: Ssavli, Bor, Tomazzic, Veneti-First Builders of European Community 
(Vienna 1996)


...di melbourne...
...mah...
io non sono d'accordo.
secondo me č una visione parziale ed approssimativa del problema, che non
tiene conto delle influenze che tutto il mondo ha portato ai veneti.
ci sono influenze di lingue slave, tedesche, anglosassoni, della lingua d'oc
e della lingua d'oil.
mi sembra un'emerita cagata.
tra l'altro, a te che te ne viene?
cioč, la tua idea oltre a postare ricerche di altri?

"x" <x...@pix.ciop> ha scritto nel messaggio 
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si vede che sei nuovo di questo NG... 

 si vede che sei nuovo di questo NG... 
Per fortuna: Mica come te che discettando delle colonie veneziane magari 
ti interessi della giustezza di 50 km di frontiera. Bel modo  di varare 
una costituzione europea...
A.

"amalric" <amalricDONTY...@REMOVEaliceposta.it> ha scritto nel 
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quale costituzione varerei io? E di quali colonie stiamo parlando? 

 una costituzione europea...
stavolta te l'appoggio. e poi te lo spingo!

 quale costituzione varerei io? E di quali colonie stiamo parlando? 
1. la costituzione nazista
2. Istra e Dalmacija, colonie veneziane finalmente libere!

 stavolta te l'appoggio. e poi te lo spingo!
Patetica checca!

 ha scritto nel messaggio 
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PLONK! 


no. non ci sono proprio su questo NG che nn so nemmeno quale sia.
é che il caro JFK continua a X-postare..e io nn guardo.
io scrivevo solo su IVD....
sani.

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bea!...xe rivà el saccente. Go capìo che xe cussì, miga so mona.
soeo che no go visto che gera in xpost.
sani.

 > >
 sloveni xe veneti 
http://www.veneto.org
 
http://puck.dhs.org/venexia
 i xe a avoar anca de sabo = xe veneti;)
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  sloveni xe veneti 
http://www.veneto.org
No, casso!!!!
:-)