Newsgroup: it.comp.macintosh
Titolo: Help - looking for old Mac OS versions.

I would be very grateful to whoever can help me with the following.
I have received an old Power Mac 5400/180, to be used by my handiccaped son
to help him in developing reading and writing skills.  The Mac hosts OS
7.5.3, but I have software requiring at least OS 7.6.1.
I am not a Mac expert, as you probably have gathered, and have just learned
that all OS's prior to OS 9 have been discontinued.  Although accordingly to
www.info.apple.com
 the Power Mac 5400/180 can host OS 9, I have the feeling
that installing it would also require a memory upgrade.  I am more inclined
to find a low cost solution that allows me to verify how useful this Mac is
to my son.
Is there anybody who knows where I can get a version of Mac OS, probably 8.5
or 8.6?
Thanks again
Sergio

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OS8.1 will be the most responsive on your machine if you've not got a large
ammount of memory installed. OS8.6 has newer features but gets more
sluggish. OS9.1 runs really slow unless you've added a G3 upgrade and a
chunk more memory.
More info on your mac and what you can do with it can be found at the 6400
zone (5400 and 6400 are basically the same machine):
http://homepage.mac.com/zone6400
Check on ebay and yahoo auction sites for copies of older OS's...
Just for the sake of asking - whereabouts in the UK are you?
CH.

 or 8.6?
I *think* I'm looking at OS 8 on CD, which I can send you, if that helps
at all.
E
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Try looking on 
www.ibazar.nl
. When I checked the site a couple of days ago
someone was offering the (original, no copy) OS 8 cd.
Jeroen
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 op 03-10-2001 12:02:
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 that installing it would also require a memory upgrade.
Con meno di 48MB RAM, non vorrei usare Mac OS 8.6; sarebbe meglio usare
8.1. In ogni caso, 8.5/8.5.1 e da evitare. Anche con memoria in
abbondanza, Mac OS 9 andra' lentissimo.
With less than 48MB RAM, I wouldn't want to use Mac OS 8.6; it would be
better to use 8. In any case, 8.5/8.5.1 is to be avoided. Even with
plenty of memory, Mac OS 9 will be very slow.
Daniele

 Wow that would be wonderful.  Waiting for instructions...
Here's something better...at 
ftp.info.apple.com
, you can d/l System
7.5.3, and there are updates from there as well.  You can find it in:
Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-International/Macintos
h/System/Full_Installs/
It would get to you faster that way then me posting the CD :-).  
Let me know if you still want the cd tho.
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Or go to 
www.ebay.com
. There you have a wide choice of operating systems on
offer, including all the older ones.
Jeroen
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 op 03-10-2001 17:39:
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 better to use 8. In any case, 8.5/8.5.1 is to be avoided.
Hmm. I had problems with 8.6 and have used 8.5.1 on several machines for
the past two years, with no obvious problems. What's the perceived
problems?
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 Thanks again to you and all the others that are helping me :-)
Just want to have this all work out for you. :-)
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 So you can d/l the upper versions (7.6, 7.6.1) and give those a shot.
Quoting from
ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-B
ritish/Macintosh/System/Mac_OS_7.6.1_Update/B-Mac_OS_7.6.1_Update_Info.txt
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Name:         B-Mac OS 7.6.1 Update (British)
Version:      n/a
Released:     May 22, 1997
Requires:     British Mac OS 7.6
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Do you think that I can perform the update anyway, forgetting the
requirements?
Tx, ciao
Sergio

 requirements?
I think that since you have 7.5.3, you can get the 7.6 upgrade, and then
once that's installed, you can upgrade to 7.6.1.  
This is only an "I think" tho...hope someone else can toss in on this
one!
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 one!
I know, surely no blame but only thanks!
Hope I'm not bothering you too much...
Sergio

 
7.6 is a "buy" - full installation not an upgrade. The last downloadable
full system is 7.5.3 [and the upgrades etc.] For 7.6.1 you need to own
7.6 first. You can normally find them on ebay for between £5 and £10 or
try an advert on uk.adverts.computer.mac [which is where I got my last
copy from - £8 ] 
Since 7.5.3 there have been no new downloadable "full" installs on the
Apple site.
David

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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you CANNOT get an "upgrade" to
System 7.6. This was a full install which had to be bought retail. It
could then be updated free to 7.6.1, but no further: OS 8 was also a
full install to be bought retail, as were 8.5 and 9.0. (OS 8 could be
freely updated to 8.1. OS 8.5 could be freely updated to 8.5.1 and 8.6.
OS 9.0 can be updated to 9.0.4, 9.1, and 9.2.1, if you have the time and
patience to download the updates.)
The furthest you can go from 7.5 by free updates is 7.5.5.
Hope this clarifies things.
Allan Sparrow
-- 
Nottingham, UK
"Preserve your memories: they're all that's left you."

 site.
Sorry folks. You cannot upgrade any 7.5.x to 7.6. The last free system
is 7.5.5. Hence the best thing to you is accept the offer and take that
0S8. 
Regarding these US/British/International versions questions... just
forget it. If you do not use any specific professional programs as
QuarkXpress or Adobe Photoshop in localized versions it doesn't make any
difference. 
T. Atomicus 

 abbondanza, Mac OS 9 andra' lentissimo.
Wow!

 wrote:
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Thanks for all the replies, everyone....looks like I got things
backwards.  Sergio, email me, the OS8 CD is still here and I can send it
to you tomorrow.
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 site.
7.6 onward 'cost' - check out eBay, but make sure that it's not a
machine-specific CD.
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Thank you very much to all of you, very helpful and patient with a newbie
:-)))
Sergio

 difference.
It starts to matter more when you try applying any OS upgrades  - e.g:
7.6 to 7.6.1
8.0 to 8.1
8.5 to 8.6 
While the upgrades are freely available, at least some of them are very
touchy about what they're upgrading.
Gareth.

 wrote:
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True. It seems to be quite obvious to me. 
And since as you said the updates are freely available what is the
point?
T. Atomicus

Elana Kehoe wrote:
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Hi
I'm afraid you cannot upgrade 7.5.3 to 7.6 as it was a paid for release.
You can only upgrade 7.5.3 to 7.5.5.
Equally you cannot upgrade 7.6.1 to OS 8 either as that was also a paid 
for release.
xhi