Newsgroup: it.sport.calcio
Titolo: Buuuuu (razzisti?)

Non credo che i tanto condannati buuu dell'Olimpico siano poi cosě razzisti.
Sono d'accordo con Zoff nel pensare che sia semplicemente un coro contro
giocatori di un'altra squadra, non penso che centri il colore della pelle.
E' un po' come cantare Pagliuca tu sei.... (faccio il primo esempio che mi
viene in mente) , non credo dunque che i suddetti bu siano razzisti (almeno
lo spero, perchč sennň saremmo messi davvero male!
Franz Cobra

SVEGLIATI

 wrote in message
88enkj$uq3$3...@pegasus.tiscalinet.it...


Io invece credo che i buuu siano razzisti, ma non nel senso che coloro che
li fanno pensino che il nero sia inferiore al bianco ( bisognerebbe essere
veramente stupidi per pensare una cosa simile), ma lo fanno per prendere in
giro il giocatore perchè di colore ( fatto sicuramente grave ma che riporta
la questione in termini di ignoranza, malcostume, ma che non ha nulla a che
vedere con le svastiche, con il KKK e via dicendo)

 Franz Cobra
Ti faccio il copia e incolla di un'altra agenzia France Press. Per chi
non sa l'inglese, o non gli va di leggere, ci sono le dichiarazioni di
Thuram, Blanc Aldair e Cannavaro. Thuram dice: che ne siano consapevoli
o no, il loro ragionamento e' questo: i neri sono come scimmie, con i
boo gli facciamo capire per bene questo concetto. Io non sono una
scimmia, sono un uomo. 
Sono particolarmente commoventi le dichiarazioni di Aldair: mi sento
colpito al cuore. Spero che non accada piu'. Non vedo come non avrei
potuto sentirmi ferito insieme con i miei compagni neri.
Parma's Thuram responds to racist Lazio fans
Agence France Press 
MILAN (AFP) -- World Cup winner Lilian Thuram took his
racist tormentors to task on Wednesday, but warned his
fellow black players that the battle against racism in
Italy will be a long one.
Thuram, one of three Parma players to be targeted by
racist Lazio fans on Sunday night, hit back in an
interview with the Gazzetta dello Sport. 
He recieved the prompt support of fellow
professionals, both black and white, but did not
appear optimistic of a quick solution. 
"I think it's impossible to avoid certain kinds of
behavior," he said of racist soccer fans. "Their
reasoning, whether they're aware of it or not is:
'black people are like monkeys, and we boo them so
that they can understand this concept.'
"Attitudes like this exist throughout the civilized
world, certainly not just in Italy. 
"And let's tell the truth once and for all - until 100
years ago eminent white scholars - university
professors and learned sociologists - claimed that the
black race was inferior to the white one. 
"Slavery, abolished only in the last century - and
that too has to be borne in mind - was accepted by
everyone. 
"And here I'm referring to major countries who today
call themselves industrialized and yet whose economic
fortunes were often founded on slavery - France,
England, America and Italy too, I believe. 
"Today's booing is the result of that culture which,
logically enough, cannot disappear in a short space of
time after having been dominant for centuries. And the
roots of that way of thinking still exist - it's
pointless us having any illusions about that. 
"The battle is going to be a long one." 
"People ought to know that the civilization considered
by everyone to have been the most advanced was the
Egyptian. And the first Egyptians were black. So how
can people claim we are an inferior race?" 
"I am not a monkey. I am a man. I know it would be
better to pretend nothing had happened, to not attach
any importance to people like them. 
"But the problem is that the number of fans like them
is increasing all the time. And therefore, a way of
dealing with the question has to be found. 
"It seems to me that in the globalised,
Internet-connected world of today, where everyone
knows everything, where making money is people's main
objective, a great deal has been lost from a spritual
point of view. 
"There is no respect for diversity." 
In his own life, the Guadeloupe-born captain said he
was inspired by several role models. 
"Cassius Clay, or Muhammad Ali if you prefer, Martin
Luther King, Malcolm X -- people who fought to defend
the dignity of black people. Have individuals ever had
to defend the dignity of white people? I don't think
so. 
"Why? Because they have always commanded ... they made
slaves of us and when they realized this went against
history and humanity they changed tack. 
"But the damage, as you can see from what's happening
at football grounds today, has unfortunately already
been done." 
Support from fellow footballers has meanwhile been
swift. 
Another member of France's World Cup squad, Inter
Milan's white defender Laurent Blanc, said: "From my
experience in France and Spain, the problem of racism
is not restricted to Italy. 
"What is particular to Italy though is the use of
racist banners. It's doubly insulting, first of all,
obviously, for the content and secondly because people
are using a sporting venue for the kind of propaganda
that has nothing to do with the basic concept of
sport." 
Aldair, the black Brazilian captain of AS Roma, was
ashamed of his own fans - who booed Perugia's black
French winger Ibrahim Ba on Sunday. 
"It struck me to the heart," said the defender, who
also felt partly a victim of the abuse. 
"I felt really bad about it and hope it doesn't happen
again. Also because I don't see how it cannot but
wound me and my other black teammates as well." 
"I can't stand this booing any longer," Thuram's
partner in Parma's central defense, Italy
international Fabio Cannavaro. "If we live in a
civilised society, and I think we do, we have to do
something about people like these at grounds. Football
should be about joy and entertainment." 



Sì,è vero..abbasso il razzismo..viva Calimero e la fata Turchina..
Evviva i buoni sentimenti e il calcio di Veltroni..
Viva susanna..pitupitupitumpà!


[...]
Ho l'impressione che questa settimana Thuram dovrà rispondere anche ai tifosi del
Verona... anche se evidentemente i buuu di Verona non scandalizzano nessuno, al
contrario di quelli di Roma, e perciò non se ne parla.
khy-ri
http://members.xoom.it/sslazio

Non credo che i tanto condannati buuu dell'Olimpico siano poi così razzisti.
In verità quelli che chiamano "buuu" son degli "uh uh uh", per dare
della scimmia al nero. Sul loro significato razzista non c'è proprio
nessun dubbio.
Chi è stato in curva almeno una volta lo sa bene (magari dalla tribuna
un bu si confode con uh...)
--
Macondo
Visita il sito dell'Anello del Fantacalcio, l'unico WebRing interamente dedicato ai siti delle leghe Fantacalcio
http://digilander.iol.it/Macondo77/Anello.html