Newsgroup: it.comp.macintosh
Titolo: Linux per Mac?

Esiste Linux per Mac? 
Ho letto qualche messaggio in proposito, ma non avevo mai sentito niente 
di simile. Gradirei avere un po' di informazioni oppure l'indirizzo di un 
qualche sito. C'e' per 680x0, per Power...?
Grazie.
PS: se non vi spiace, rispondetemi anche via e-mail. Grazie.
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Si`, esiste... E` sul CD-ROM di MacFormat di gennaio. Gira solo sui
primi PowerMac 601 NuBus.
Prelevarlo su Internet e` impensabile, sono circa 200Mb.
E` uscita di recente la 2.1 (su MacFormat c'e` la 2.0). Dovrebbe essere
anche per i PMac PCI.
Eccoti il file read me con l'update:
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FTP Directory: 
ftp://ftp.mklinux.apple.com/pub/Updates/DR2.1update1/
 [DIR] ] Parent Directory
 [FILE]  DR2.1update1.mklinux.src.tgz . .  [Mar 19 21:59]   7286k
 [FILE]  DR2.1update1.osfmk.export.tgz. .  [Mar 19 21:59]    360k
 [FILE]  DR2.1update1.osfmk.src.tgz . . .  [Mar 19 21:59]   4014k
 [FILE]  DR2.1update1.tools.tgz . . . . .  [Mar 19 21:59]    171k
 [FILE]  Mach_Kernel.gz . . . . . . . . .  [Mar 19 21:59]    274k
 [FILE]  README . . . . . . . . . . . . .  [Mar 19 21:59]      5k
 [FILE]  README.build . . . . . . . . . .  [Mar 19 21:59]      3k
 [FILE]  README.install . . . . . . . . .  [Mar 19 21:59]     10k
 [FILE]  ode-bin.tgz. . . . . . . . . . .  [Mar 19 21:59]   5613k
 [FILE]  vmlinux.gz . . . . . . . . . . .  [Mar 19 21:59]    445k
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README file from 
ftp://ftp.mklinux.apple.com/pub/Updates/DR2.1update1/
March 19, 1997
Announcing the first update to MkLinux DR2.1.
The "DR2.1update1" update adds some functionality that has been
available
in the WIP (work-in-progress) kernel/server pairs, but had not yet been
put
into an update.
The update is available for anonymous ftp from 
ftp.mklinux.apple.com
:
 
ftp://ftp.mklinux.apple.com/pub/Updates/DR2.1update1/
or our various mirror sites, in the directory:
    .../Updates/DR2.1update1/
(Please be patient with the mirror sites, it may take them some time to
 mirror the update)
*** IMPORTANT NOTES ****
General
-------
This update consists of a new Microkernel and Linux Server.  The source
to these pieces is included, as well as the tools (and instructions)
needed
to build them.
Bug Fixes
---------
We believe this update fixes the following bugs.  If any of these
problems
still occur after you have installed the update, please let us know by
sending mail to 
bu...@mklinux.apple.com
.  Use the Subject: "Bugs Recur
After
DR2.1update1"
- printf messages from the mach microkernel should no longer pollute
  the console screen, they should be neatly logged by klogd.
- A bug was fixed in cd audio that could cause filesystem corruption
  on PCI powermacs.
- Should be able to boot on machines with more than about 90Mb RAM
  (if not, there's a work around, see below)
Enhancements
------------
- Initial SCSI tape support.   The tape device doesn't have the usual
  naming convention.  It is named as per the SCSI ID, so if the tape
  has SCSI ID 4, the tape devices will be /dev/st4 and /dev/nst4
  We've tested the tape using 'tar' and 'taper' (which required a simple
  fix to the config to build on a big-endian machine), please let us
know
  of any problems you see.
Work Arounds
------------
- PCI (604 processor) users with fast/slow clocks:
  Until we have a better method, you may now specify the bus frequency
of
  your machine in your lilo.conf file.  Boot MacOS, go to the mklinux
  control panel, click on 'custom' and add the following to the end of
  the mach_options line, with a space beforehand: "
bus_speed_hz=44000000"
  ie. you'll have a line like:
        mach_options= bus_speed_hz=44000000
- For users with ATI cards, and users for whom DR2.1 freezes at boot
  The "probe" for the ATI card that exists in the DR2.1 kernel causes
  some problems for machines that do not have ATI cards.  Therefore,
  the probe (and support for the ATI card) must be enabled with a mach
  option.
  To enable probing for ATI cards users will now need to add the option:
  " video_probe=true" to the end of the mach_options line (like above).
  It is possible to have a line like:
        mach_options= bus_speed_hz=44000000 video_probe=true
- If you've got "too much" memory (more than 90Mb), and MkLinux won't
boot,
  you can tell the kernel to ignore some of it.  Use the mach option -m,
  such as "-m90" (to limit the kernel to 90 megabytes).
  Adding this in, you can now have a line like:
        mach_options=-m90 bus_speed_hz=44000000 video_probe=true
Quick Guide to Files Available in the DR2.1update1 Directory:
-------------------------------------------------------------
      README
        contains this message.
      README.install
        How to install the Mach Kernel and Linux Server
      README.build
        How to build the Mach Kernel and/or Linux Server
      Mach_Kernel.gz
      vmlinux.gz
        The Mach Kernel and Linux Server in gzipped (ie. compressed)
form
      DR2.1update1.osfmk.src.tgz
        Sources to Mach Kernel in gzipped tar format.
        (to extract: tar -zxpf DR2.1update1.osfmk.src.tgz)
      DR2.1update1.osfmk.export.tgz
        The export/powermac directories, which contains the "exportable"
        pieces of the Microkernel build (include files and libraries)
        (to extract: tar -zxpf DR2.1update1.osfmk.export.tgz)
      DR2.1update1.mklinux.src.tgz
        Sources to the Linux Server update in gzipped tar format.
        (to extract: tar -zxpf DR2.1update1.mklinux.src.tgz)
      DR2.1update1.tools.tgz
        Various "Mach tools" that are needed to build both the
microkernel
        and the Linux server.
      ode-bin.tgz
        OSF development environment tools that are needed to build the
        microkernel.
******
Ed eccoti anche l'indirizzo:
http://www.mklinux.apple.com
Spero di esserti stato utile
Ciao
Igor

 anche per i PMac PCI.
nessuno sa se prima o poi (meglio prima che poi) verra' messa in giro da
qualche giornale anche la versione DR2.1 ???
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igor
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 qualche giornale anche la versione DR2.1 ???
Penso che lo fara' Mac Format, che mi sembra dedicare attenzione a
Linux. Infatti sul numero 7 (marzo 97) c'e' il patch per i power mac
PCI; e' gia' uscito anche il numero di aprile, ma l'ho prestato, per cui
non posso controllare subito; un giorno o l'altro provero' anch'io a
farci qualcosa.
Roberto


Cerca FreeBSD esiste per 68K, e` un poco piu` vecchio di Linux, in
compenso ha un kernel molto stabile. Unico neo il loader, che parte da
MacOS, parte solo se hai un disco scsi. Io, che ho un PB con disco
IDE/ATA, l'ho fatto partire dallo ZIP esterno. Questa pero` e` storia
vecchia, ho messo su un PC con Linux, che parla AppleTalk con il mac,
che roba.
        Stefano Canepa <ste...@IT.net>

http://mklinux.apple.com