Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Tortura. Accuse a Cheney

A quanto pare, non siamo solo noi comunisti a credere che vi siano
responsabilità mooolto in alto, nell'applicazione della tortura da parte
degli USA. Ma guarda un po', alle volte...
Namib
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http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/m
iddle_east/4480638.stm
Cheney accused on prisoner abuse
A top aide to former Secretary of State Colin Powell has launched a stinging
attack on US Vice-President Dick Cheney over abuse of prisoners by US
troops.
Col Lawrence Wilkerson accused Mr Cheney of ignoring a decision by President
Bush on the treatment of prisoners in the war on terror.
Asked by the BBC's Today if Mr Cheney could be accused of war crimes, he
said: "It's an interesting question."
"Certainly it is a domestic crime to advocate terror," he added.
"And I would suspect, for whatever it's worth, it's an international crime
as well."
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I look at the relationship between Mr Cheney and Mr Rumsfeld as being one
that produced these two failures in particular, and I see that the president
is not holding either of them accountable... so I have to lay some blame at
his feet too
Col Wilkerson
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This is an extraordinary attack by a man who until earlier in the year was
Mr Cheney's colleague in the senior reaches of the Bush team, the BBC's
Justin Webb in Washington says.
Col Wilkerson has in the past accused the vice-president of responsibility
for the conditions which led to the abuse of prisoners.
But this time he has gone much further, appearing to suggest Mr Cheney
should face war crimes charges, our correspondent adds.
Intelligence questions
He said that there were two sides of the debate within the Bush
administration over the treatment of prisoners.
Mr Powell and more dovish members had argued for sticking to the Geneva
conventions, which prohibit the torture of detainees.
Meanwhile, the other side "essentially wanted to do away with all
restrictions".
Mr Bush agreed a compromise, that "Geneva would in fact govern all but
al-Qaeda and al-Qaeda look-alike detainees".
"What I'm saying is that, under the vice-president's protection, the
secretary of defence [Donald Rumsfeld] moved out to do what they wanted in
the first place, even though the president had made a decision that was
clearly a compromise," Col Wilkerson said.
He said that he laid the blame on the issue of prisoner abuse and post-war
planning for Iraq "pretty fairly and squarely" at Mr Cheney's feet.
"I look at the relationship between Mr Cheney and Mr Rumsfeld as being one
that produced these two failures in particular, and I see that the president
is not holding either of them accountable... so I have to lay some blame at
his feet too," he went on.
In the BBC interview, Col Wilkerson also developed his views on whether or
not pre-war intelligence was deliberately misused by the White House.
He said that he had previously thought only honest mistakes were made.
But recent revelations about doubts in the intelligence community that
appear to have been suppressed in the run-up to the war have made him
question this view.

 degli USA. Ma guarda un po', alle volte...
Se smetteste di essere comunisti vi si crederebbe piu' facilmente.
Nota che oltre al crimine connesso con la tortura c'e' anche IMHO
implicitamente un'accusa relativa al rispetto delle istituzioni.
Palmiro Pangloss
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parte degli USA. Ma guarda un po', alle volte...
Beh, il mondo e' pieno di idioti, comunisti o meno che siano.
E tra essi vi possono essere anche colonnelli USA.
-Stefano

 Se smetteste di essere comunisti vi si crederebbe piu' facilmente.
ha parlato il credibile gran elettore de Er Pecora e Tremaglia.
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 Se smetteste di essere comunisti vi si crederebbe piu' facilmente.
#_Si puo`smettere solo *di fare* cavalie', mai di *essere*.
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Quoto. Tuttavia Lec non aveva preso inconsiderazione il mononeurone 
imbecille al suo 130.000 post.
Am.

 implicitamente un'accusa relativa al rispetto delle istituzioni.
Cosa proba. Ma vedremo mai Cheney alla sbarra? No. Perché questo
significherebbe trascinarvi Bush & Blair. Shalom.
Namib

imbecille
...disse il mononeurone imbecille.... :)
-Stefano

 *Tu* diffidi di me, perché sono comunista? :) aut :( ?
non puo' piu' risponderti ormai : e' di nuovo succube del pifferaio
piduista di  Arcore. Come nel '96 . <g>
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 degli USA. Ma guarda un po', alle volte...
è il governo Usa intero colpevole.
Mi ricordo ancora quando 5 anni fa circa fecero approvare un documento della 
commissionie contro i crimini di guerra che esentasse gli Americani da 
condanne.
In pratica si fecero approvare un regolamento che li rendeva immuni da 
processi.
per la serie: meglio prepararsi il campo prima. 

 Perché questo significherebbe trascinarvi Bush & Blair. Shalom.
Nell'articolo si parla di atti commessi da cheney disobbedendo al Prez 
mi pare, Bush lo tengono fuori. Blair non c'entra IMHO: e' una storia USA.
Palmiro Pangloss
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You know, you come from nothing - you're going back to nothing.
What have you lost? Nothing!

gli Americani da condanne.
Commissione di tua fantasia e documento altrettanto di fantasia :)
-Stefano