Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Crescente isolamento... della Turchia

Notare come alcuni dei parlamentari più decisi nel condannare la
responsabilità del governo turco nell'incidente della NM siano quelli
della maggioranza Dem.
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http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=178687
US Congressmen express ire toward Turkey
By HILARY LEILA KRIEGER
06/17/2010 01:55
"Turkey is responsible for the deaths" in Gaza flotilla incident.
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WASHINGTON – US Congressmen ratcheted up their criticism of Turkey
Wednesday, warning that Ankara was risking its historically warm ties
with Congress by reaching toward Iran and breaking with Israel.
In a press conference defending Israel’s raid on a Turkish-flagged aid
ship trying to break the Gaza blockade, several dozen of whose
passengers had ties to terror organizations, numerous members of
Congress turned their ire toward Turkey.
“Turkey is responsible for the nine deaths aboard that ship. It is not
Israel that’s responsible,” declared Rep. Shelley Berkley (D-Nevada),
who pointed to Turkish funding and support for the expedition.
“If Israel is at fault in any way, it’s by falling into the trap that
was set for them by Turkey.”
She continued: “The Turks have extraordinary nerve to lecture the
State of Israel when they are occupiers of the island of Cyprus, where
they systematically discriminate against the ecumenical patriarch, and
they refuse to recognize the Armenian genocide.”
Her comments – which were accompanied by an announcement that Turkish
representatives were no longer welcome in her office – touched on
sensitive issues with Turkey that the US has often shied away from
pressing Ankara on aggressively.
Her words raised the prospect that the US Congress at least would be
more assertive about its displeasure with Turkey.
Speaking at the same press conference, Rep. Mike Pence (R-Indiana)
said he recently warned the Turkish ambassador that “With regard to
Congress of the United States, there will be a cost if Turkey stays on
its current path of growing closed to Iran and more antagonistic to
the State of Israel.”
Among other issues, he said, he was now likely to switch his vote to
support a resolution recognizing the mass killing of Armenians during
the Ottoman empire as a genocide, a move he had voted against in the
past because he thought relations with Turkey were more important.
Turkey has vehemently opposed the resolution, briefly recalling its
ambassador to the US when the measure passed a House committee earlier
this year.
The Obama administration, in keeping with past administrations, has
opposed the resolution moving to the full chamber for a vote because
of Turkish sensitivities. Many Jewish lobbies in Washington opposed
the resolution on the same grounds.
That argument also resonated in the past with Rep.
Peter King (R-NY), another participant in the press conference who
said he was now likely to switch positions – as were many other of his
colleagues.
King stressed that this wasn’t just about Turkey’s support of the Gaza
flotilla and its heavy criticism of Israel, but the government’s move
toward Iran and its turn away from running a secular democratic state.
“This is a clear effort, I believe, by Turkey to distance itself from
the West, and there have to be consequences for that,” he said.
Indeed, Adam Schiff (DCalifornia) cited Turkey’s opposition to
sanctions against Iran in circulating a letter Tuesday calling for his
colleagues to take up the Armenian genocide resolution.
“Now is the time to recognize the Armenian genocide.
As Turkey sides with Iran, why defend its campaign of genocide
denial?” asked Schiff, who sponsored the resolution.
At this point, Capitol Hill watchers don’t see enough momentum to
force a floor vote, given how explosive the resolution would be in the
current state of tension between the US, Turkey and Israel. But that
could change, and insiders did see dissatisfaction with Turkey pushing
forward initiatives to investigate the country’s connection to the
flotilla and other moves opposed by Ankara.
The shift in tone, at least, was also evident in a letter Gary
Ackerman (D-New York) sent to the Woodrow Wilson Center Tuesday
afternoon calling on the think tank to rethink honoring Turkish
Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu with its public service award.
“Publicly honoring Foreign Minister Davutoglu at this time is
absolutely inconsistent – absolutely inconsistent – with the mission
of the WWC and the ideals that animated President Wilson’s
administration and foreign policy,” he wrote in a letter to the
center.
At the same time, members of Congress are reaffirming their strong
support of Israel and calling on the White House/administration to do
the same.
A letter collecting signatures among members urges US President Barack
Obama “to remain steadfast in the defense of Israel in the face of the
international community’s rush to unfairly judge and condemn Israel in
international fora such as the United Nations Security Council.” The
letter has the support of many American Jewish groups, including the
Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations, which put out
a statement strongly backing the measure Wednesday.
But some have taken issue with it. The progressive J Street lobby
urged senators and representatives to amend the letter, or write their
own.
“The sign-on letters now circulating in the House and Senate, while
expressing strong American support for Israel – a position we endorse
– fail to address the impact of the present closure of Gaza on the
civilian population, the deep American interest in resolving this
conflict diplomatically, or the urgency of moving forward with
diplomacy before it is too late,” J Street writes. “By ignoring these
critical issues in favor of a simplistic statement that supports
Israeli policy and actions, Congress is serving neither the best
interests of the United States or of Israel.”

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Notare come alcuni dei parlamentari più decisi nel condannare la
responsabilità del governo turco nell'incidente della NM siano quelli
della maggioranza Dem.
lol
la russia è pronta a vezzeggiarli allora 

"Turkey is responsible for the deaths" in Gaza flotilla incident.
Questo l'ho detto subito anch'io.
Le vittime militari e civili che sono seguite alla guerra contro
l'Iraq e l'Afganistan � di Bin Laden e della sua organizzazione e non
della coalizione. Infatti, l'attacco agli USA dell'11 settembre fu
proprio una provocazione per tirare in guerra gli USA e per avere
delle vittime civili da mostrare alle TV di tutto il mondo e per
ottenere il riflesso automatico della solidariet� con le vittime.
La responsabilit� delle vittime causate da una provocazione � di chi
attua quella provocazione. Questo va detto e ridetto per smontare il
gioco delle provocazioni e dell'uso di vittime civili per vincere la
guerra sul piano mediatico.

Tonibaruch ha scritto:
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La Turchia è isolata? ROTFL!
Shelley Berkley,  Mike Pence, Peter King, Adam Schiff, Gary Ackerman: 
tre sono il tipo di ebrei che supporterebbero qualsiasi scelleratezza 
commessa da qualunque regime guidasse Israele; uno è un integralista 
cristiano mezzo fascio; uno è tanto ferocemente anti islamico da essere 
stato sgridato da un rabbino.
Tutti adottano il metodo Shapiro, e tirano fuori la questione del 
genocidio armeno per punire la Turchia della sua presa di distanza da 
Israele.
L'unico commento utile e sensato è quello di JStreet, bagarozzo. 
Purtroppo te l'hanno messo nello stesso articolo, e non hai potuto 
tagliarlo...

 tre sono il tipo di ebrei che supporterebbero qualsiasi scelleratezza 
questo e' lo stile di Persio. Quelli che non gli piacciono, 
semplicemente per lui non esistono. Cosi' puo' permettersi di ignorare 
dove va il mondo, salvo svegliarsi per denunciare che i cattivi stanno 
vincendo.

 L'unico commento utile e sensato è quello di JStreet
La Turchia non è isolata. Ha perso il congresso USA. Ma ci sono Persio
e Jstreet a sostenerne l'impeto islamista.
LOL
Tb (bieco illuminista)
Ps: Persio, sei un pirla.

 Ackerman (D-New York)
e cinque parlamentari di uno stato che è sempre stato dalla parte di
Israele. Devi essere proprio alla canna del gas per ridurti a chiamare
4 gatti yankee "isolamento internazionale" della Turchia.