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Titolo: Terrorismo, maxi-retata a Los Angeles arrestate 180 persone

A Los Angeles ieri la polizia ha arrestato circa 180 persone,
legate ad ambienti integralisti islamici, nel corso di una
maxi-retata coordinata dalle unità antiterrorismo.
Secondo il portavoce della polizia, Horace Frank, si è
trattato di una operazione preventiva, e le accuse vanno dal
furto di documenti al matrimonio combinato.
"Siamo convinti che la maggior parte delle persone che abbiamo
arrestato sono legate a gruppi terroristici, ne sono
simpatizzanti, o ne hanno finanziato l'attività ", ha spiegato
Frank.(red)
Grande!!in usa ormai si arresta si ipotesi non su prove
certe!!ci rediamo conto!

 certe!!ci rediamo conto!
Non hanno arrestato.  Hanno fermato.
Esattamente come si fa nelle retate.
-Stefano

>>Marco.

 >>>Marco.
Concordo!	

pericolo islamico!
Come no! :))
*ROTFL*
-Stefano

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Gli eufemismi servono sempre!
Pero` quel che conta e` solo di quanto sara` lunga la detenzione per
accertamento...non credi!? Staremo a vedere !
Dato che per estremi si arriva in USA a incarcerare (come a Guantanamo )
senza processo e quindi senza alcun diritto alla difesa , posso immaginare
che dentro o
" fermati " ci staranno un bel po' .
Purtroppo in un paese che potrebbe essere il faro della Democrazia e
Liberta` ( non dimenticare quella statua-emblema che si incontra prima di
entrare nel porto di New York  ) gia` si delineano alcuni sistemi usati
durante la presidenza McCarthy dove si echitettavano di "comunismo"
qualsiasi idea che non fosse allineata e si dava la caccia alle streghe ;
oggi e` la caccia al mussulmano , ma la sostanza non cambia , anzi comincia
a colorarsi di razzismo . Conosco persone in USA che sono concordi in questo
e la differenza la sentono e come !
La sentono sia dai media che semplicemente dai contatti sociali che "il
terrore" del dopo 9/11 ha portato nella maggioranza.
Giano
--
Le nostre vite cominciano a finire il giorno in cui iniziamo a tacere sulle
cose che contano
Martin Luther King Jr.

Conosco persone in USA che sono concordi in questo
Il che dice ben poco.
-Stefano

 -Stefano
Giano

rapporto di interrogatori fatti a persone della cultura americana.
Beh, mostrali questi "rapporti di interrogatori" che "persone della
cultura americana" avrebbero subito in quanto musulmane :)
-Stefano

 -Stefano
Non mischiare le carte Stefano......Le persone attuali della cultura
americana sono quelle che hanno firmato la dichiarazione " Not in our
name"(per esempio) e sono confinati con l'etichetta di
"democratici-comunisti" solo perche` sono attivisti "pacifisti" .
 Io ho scritto che "basta riguardare *indietro* , agli interrogatori subiti
da persone della cultura americana "....... ho omesso durante gli anni del
McCarthismo in quanto considerate "comuniste", perche` mi sembra abbastanza
chiaro.
www.just-international.org/McCarthism-farish.html
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www.just-international.org/McCarthism-farish.html
Se il livello delle "persone della cultura americana" e' quello di
Chomsky e Said io non le definirei "comuniste" ma semplicemente
"ignoranti" come hanno piu' volte loro stesse dimostrato parlando in
campi che nulla hanno a che vedere con i loro campi accademici :))))
-Stefano

 AMERICANA.
durante il McCartismo li trovi qui :
 
www.historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6456/
troverai quello che dico e se vuoi capire capisci , altrimenti perdiamo solo
tempo.
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www.historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6456/
Non c'e'
1) nessun testi di qualsivoglia interrogatorio
2) nessun elenco di nomi di personaggi della cultura americana :)
Sai portare le une e gli altri oppure non ne sei proprio capace?
-Stefano

 difesa.
* STRA-ROTFL *

 -Stefano
 Se apri l'indirizzo di sopra troverai a fondo pagina dodici estensioni
riguardanti lo stesso numero di interrogatori della HUAC a dodici personaggi
di spicco.
(te ne riporto qui una pagina ,gli altri te li puoi sognare,Stefano , con un
Copy -Paste potrei aggiungerli.....ma non ho tempo e non sono un
collezionista ; per questioni di principio, me ne basta uno)
Prova che ci furono commissioni di inchiesta e successivi interrogatori a
carico di porsonaggi noti nei campi della cultura e dell'arte perche`
"comunisti" dichiarati ( che non avrebbe dovuto essere reato in una
democrazia)o sospettati di comunismo .
Questa  e` *storia* di quegli anni attorno al'50 per quello che riguarda il
McCartismo  menzionato ; fatto posto in parallelo con la mentalita` di oggi
riguardo i "mussulmani" viventi in america.
I nomi dei personaggi di oggi te li ho dati sopra ; il numero di loro e`
irrilevante , non esclude questo che il diritto di liberta` di espressione
e` stato leso.
"'''Many African-American witnesses subpoenaed to testify at the House
Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC) hearings in the 1950s were asked
to denounce Paul Robeson (1888-1976) in order to obtain future employment.
Robeson, an All-American football player and recipient of a Phi Beta Kappa
key at Rutgers, received a law degree at Columbia. He became an
internationally acclaimed concert performer and actor as well as a
persuasive political speaker. In 1949, Robeson was the subject of
controversy after newspapers reports of public statements that African
Americans would not fight in "an imperialist war." In 1950, his passport was
revoked. Several years later, Robeson refused to sign an affidavit stating
that he was not a Communist and initiated an unsuccessful lawsuit. In the
following testimony to a HUAC hearing, ostensibly convened to gain
information regarding his passport suit, Robeson refused to answer questions
concerning his political activities and lectured bigoted Committee members
Gordon H. Scherer and Chairman Francis E.Walter about African-American
history and civil rights. In 1958, the Supreme Court ruled that a citizen's
right to travel could not be taken away without due process and Robeson'
passport was returned. """"
1) -TESTO DI UN INTERROGATORIO
  Testimony of Paul Robeson before the House Committee on Un-American
Activities, June 12, 1956
  THE CHAIRMAN: The Committee will be in order. This morning the Committee
resumes its series of hearings on the vital issue of the use of American
passports as travel documents in furtherance of the objectives of the
Communist conspiracy. . . .
  Mr. ARENS: Now, during the course of the process in which you were
applying for this passport, in July of 1954, were you requested to submit a
non-Communist affidavit?
  Mr. ROBESON: We had a long discussion-with my counsel, who is in the room,
Mr. [Leonard B.] Boudin-with the State Department, about just such an
affidavit and I was very precise not only in the application but with the
State Department, headed by Mr. Henderson and Mr. McLeod, that under no
conditions would I think of signing any such affidavit, that it is a
complete contradiction of the rights of American citizens.
  Mr. ARENS: Did you comply with the requests?
  Mr. ROBESON: I certainly did not and I will not.
  Mr. ARENS: Are you now a member of the Communist Party?
  Mr. ROBESON: Oh please, please, please.
  Mr. SCHERER: Please answer, will you, Mr. Robeson?
  Mr. ROBESON: What is the Communist Party? What do you mean by that?
  Mr. SCHERER: I ask that you direct the witness to answer the question.
  Mr. ROBESON: What do you mean by the Communist Party? As far as I know it
is a legal party like the Republican Party and the Democratic Party. Do you
mean a party of people who have sacrificed for my people, and for all
Americans and workers, that they can live in dignity? Do you mean that
party?
  Mr. ARENS: Are you now a member of the Communist Party?
  Mr. ROBESON: Would you like to come to the ballot box when I vote and take
out the ballot and see?
  Mr. ARENS: Mr. Chairman, I respectfully suggest that the witness be
ordered and directed to answer that question.
  THE CHAIRMAN: You are directed to answer the question.
  (The witness consulted with his counsel.)
  Mr. ROBESON: I stand upon the Fifth Amendment of the American
Constitution.
  Mr. ARENS: Do you mean you invoke the Fifth Amendment?
  Mr. ROBESON: I invoke the Fifth Amendment.
  Mr. ARENS: Do you honestly apprehend that if you told this Committee
truthfully-
  Mr. ROBESON: I have no desire to consider anything. I invoke the Fifth
Amendment, and it is none of your business what I would like to do, and I
invoke the Fifth Amendment. And forget it.
  THE CHAIRMAN: You are directed to answer that question.
  MR, ROBESON: I invoke the Fifth Amendment, and so I am answering it, am I
not?
  Mr. ARENS: I respectfully suggest the witness be ordered and directed to
answer the question as to whether or not he honestly apprehends, that if he
gave us a truthful answer to this last principal question, he would be
supplying information which might be used against him in a criminal
proceeding.
  (The witness consulted with his counsel.)
  THE CHAIRMAN: You are directed to answer that question, Mr. Robeson.
  Mr. ROBESON: Gentlemen, in the first place, wherever I have been in the
world, Scandinavia, England, and many places, the first to die in the
struggle against Fascism were the Communists and I laid many wreaths upon
graves of Communists. It is not criminal, and the Fifth Amendment has
nothing to do with criminality. The Chief Justice of the Supreme Court,
Warren, has been very clear on that in many speeches, that the Fifth
Amendment does not have anything to do with the inference of criminality. I
invoke the Fifth Amendment.
  Mr. ARENS: Have you ever been known under the name of "John Thomas"?
  Mr. ROBESON: Oh, please, does somebody here want-are you suggesting-do you
want me to be put up for perjury some place? "John Thomas"! My name is Paul
Robeson, and anything I have to say, or stand for, I have said in public all
over the world, and that is why I am here today.
  Mr. SCHERER: I ask that you direct the witness to answer the question. He
is making a speech.
  Mr. FRIEDMAN: Excuse me, Mr. Arens, may we have the photographers take
their pictures, and then desist, because it is rather nerve-racking for them
to be there.
  THE CHAIRMAN: They will take the pictures.
  Mr. ROBESON: I am used to it and I have been in moving pictures. Do you
want me to pose for it good? Do you want me to smile? I cannot smile when I
am talking to him.
  Mr. ARENS: I put it to you as a fact, and ask you to affirm or deny the
fact, that your Communist Party name was "John Thomas."
  Mr. ROBESON: I invoke the Fifth Amendment. This is really ridiculous.
  Mr. ARENS: Now, tell this Committee whether or not you know Nathan Gregory
Silvermaster.
  Mr. SCHERER: Mr. Chairman, this is not a laughing matter.
  Mr. ROBESON: It is a laughing matter to me, this is really complete
nonsense.
  Mr. ARENS: Have you ever known Nathan Gregory Silvermaster?
  (The witness consulted with his counsel.)
  Mr. ROBESON: I invoke the Fifth Amendment.
  Mr. ARENS: Do you honestly apprehend that if you told whether you know
Nathan Gregory Silvermaster you would be supplying information that could be
used against you in a criminal proceeding?
  Mr. ROBESON: I have not the slightest idea what you are talking about. I
invoke the Fifth-
  Mr. ARENS: I suggest, Mr. Chairman, that the witness be directed to answer
that question.
  THE CHAIRMAN: You are directed to answer the question.
  Mr. ROBESON: I invoke the Fifth.
  Mr. SCHERER: The witness talks very loud when he makes a speech, but when
he invokes the Fifth Amendment I cannot hear him.
  Mr. ROBESON: I invoked the Fifth Amendment very loudly. You know I am an
actor, and I have medals for diction.
  . . . .
  Mr. ROBESON: Oh, gentlemen, I thought I was here about some passports.
  Mr. ARENS: We will get into that in just a few moments.
  Mr. ROBESON: This is complete nonsense.
  . . . .
  THE CHAIRMAN: This is legal. This is not only legal but usual. By a
unanimous vote, this Committee has been instructed to perform this very
distasteful task.
  Mr. ROBESON: To whom am I talking?
  THE CHAIRMAN: You are speaking to the Chairman of this Committee.
  Mr. ROBESON: Mr. Walter?
  THE CHAIRMAN: Yes.
  Mr. ROBESON: The Pennsylvania Walter?
  THE CHAIRMAN: That is right.
  Mr. ROBESON: Representative of the steelworkers?
  THE CHAIRMAN: That is right.
  Mr. ROBESON: Of the coal-mining workers and not United States Steel, by
any chance? A great patriot.
  THE CHAIRMAN: That is right.
  Mr. ROBESON: You are the author of all of the bills that are going to keep
all kinds of decent people out of the country.
  THE CHAIRMAN: No, only your kind.
  Mr. ROBESON: Colored people like myself, from the West Indies and all
kinds. And just the Teutonic Anglo-Saxon stock that you would let come in.
  THE CHAIRMAN: We are trying to make it easier to get rid of your kind,
too.
  Mr. ROBESON: You do not want any colored people to come in?
  THE CHAIRMAN: Proceed. . . .
  Mr. ROBESON: Could I say that the reason that I am here today, you know,
from the mouth of the State Department itself, is: I should not be allowed
to travel because I have struggled for years for the independence of the
colonial peoples of Africa. For many years I have so labored and I can say
modestly that my name is very much honored all over Africa, in my struggles
for their independence. That is the kind of independence like Sukarno got in
Indonesia. Unless we are double-talking, then these efforts in the interest
of Africa would be in the same context. The other reason that I am here
today, again from the State Department and from the court record of the
court of appeals, is that when I am abroad I speak out against the
injustices against the Negro people of this land. I sent a message to the
Bandung Conference and so forth. That is why I am here. This is the basis,
and I am not being tried for whether I am a Communist, I am being tried for
fighting for the rights of my people, who are still second-class citizens in
this United States of America. My mother was born in your state, Mr. Walter,
and my mother was a Quaker, and my ancestors in the time of Washington baked
bread for George Washington's troops when they crossed the Delaware, and my
own father was a slave. I stand here struggling for the rights of my people
to be full citizens in this country. And they are not. They are not in
Mississippi. And they are not in Montgomery, Alabama. And they are not in
Washington. They are nowhere, and that is why I am here today. You want to
shut up every Negro who has the courage to stand up and fight for the rights
of his people, for the rights of workers, and I have been on many a picket
line for the steelworkers too. And that is why I am here today. . . .
  Mr. ARENS: Did you make a trip to Europe in 1949 and to the Soviet Union?
  Mr. ROBESON: Yes, I made a trip. To England. And I sang.
  Mr. ARENS: Where did you go?
  Mr. ROBESON: I went first to England, where I was with the Philadelphia
Orchestra, one of two American groups which was invited to England. I did a
long concert tour in England and Denmark and Sweden, and I also sang for the
Soviet people, one of the finest musical audiences in the world. Will you
read what the Porgy and Bess people said? They never heard such applause in
their lives. One of the most musical peoples in the world, and the great
composers and great musicians, very cultured people, and Tolstoy, and-
  THE CHAIRMAN: We know all of that.
  Mr. ROBESON: They have helped our culture and we can learn a lot.
  Mr. ARENS: Did you go to Paris on that trip?
  Mr. ROBESON: I went to Paris.
  Mr. ARENS: And while you were in Paris, did you tell an audience there
that the American Negro would never go to war against the Soviet government?
  Mr. ROBESON: May I say that is slightly out of context? May I explain to
you what I did say? I remember the speech very well, and the night before,
in London, and do not take the newspaper, take me: I made the speech,
gentlemen, Mr. So-and-So. It happened that the night before, in London,
before I went to Paris . . . and will you please listen?
  Mr. ARENS: We are listening.
  Mr. ROBESON: Two thousand students from various parts of the colonial
world, students who since then have become very important in their
governments, in places like Indonesia and India, and in many parts of
Africa, two thousand students asked me and Mr. [Dr. Y. M.] Dadoo, a leader
of the Indian people in South Africa, when we addressed this conference, and
remember I was speaking to a peace conference, they asked me and Mr. Dadoo
to say there that they were struggling for peace, that they did not want war
against anybody. Two thousand students who came from populations that would
range to six or seven hundred million people.
  Mr. KEARNEY: Do you know anybody who wants war?
  Mr. ROBESON: They asked me to say in their name that they did not want
war. That is what I said. No part of my speech made in Paris says fifteen
million American Negroes would do anything. I said it was my feeling that
the American people would struggle for peace, and that has since been
underscored by the President of these United States. Now, in passing, I
said-
  Mr. KEARNEY: Do you know of any people who want war?
  Mr. ROBESON: Listen to me. I said it was unthinkable to me that any people
would take up arms, in the name of an Eastland, to go against anybody.
Gentlemen, I still say that. This United States Government should go down to
Mississippi and protect my people. That is what should happen.
  THE CHAIRMAN: Did you say what was attributed to you?
  Mr. ROBESON: I did not say it in that context.
  Mr. ARENS: I lay before you a document containing an article, "I Am
Looking for Full Freedom," by Paul Robeson, in a publication called the
Worker, dated July 3, 1949.
  At the Paris Conference I said it was unthinkable that the Negro people of
America or elsewhere in the world could be drawn into war with the Soviet
Union.
  Mr. ROBESON: Is that saying the Negro people would do anything? I said it
is unthinkable. I did not say that there [in Paris]: I said that in the
Worker.
  Mr. ARENS:
  I repeat it with hundredfold emphasis: they will not.
  Did you say that?
  Mr. ROBESON: I did not say that in Paris, I said that in America. And,
gentlemen, they have not yet done so, and it is quite clear that no
Americans, no people in the world probably, are going to war with the Soviet
Union. So I was rather prophetic, was I not?
  Mr. ARENS: On that trip to Europe, did you go to Stockholm?
  Mr. ROBESON: I certainly did, and I understand that some people in the
American Embassy tried to break up my concert. They were not successful.
  Mr. ARENS: While you were in Stockholm, did you make a little speech?
  Mr. ROBESON: I made all kinds of speeches, yes.
  Mr. ARENS: Let me read you a quotation.
  Mr. ROBESON: Let me listen.
  Mr. ARENS: Do so, please.
  Mr. ROBESON: I am a lawyer.
  Mr. KEARNEY: It would be a revelation if you would listen to counsel.
  Mr. ROBESON: In good company, I usually listen, but you know people wander
around in such fancy places. Would you please let me read my statement at
some point?
  THE CHAIRMAN: We will consider your statement.
  Mr. ARENS:
  I do not hesitate one second to state clearly and unmistakably: I belong
to the American resistance movement which fights against American
imperialism, just as the resistance movement fought against Hitler.
  Mr. ROBESON: Just like Frederick Douglass and Harriet Tubman were
underground railroaders, and fighting for our freedom, you bet your life.
  THE CHAIRMAN: I am going to have to insist that you listen to these
questions.
  MR, ROBESON: I am listening.
  Mr. ARENS:
  If the American warmongers fancy that they could win America's millions of
Negroes for a war against those countries (i.e., the Soviet Union and the
peoples' democracies) then they ought to understand that this will never be
the case. Why should the Negroes ever fight against the only nations of the
world where racial discrimination is prohibited, and where the people can
live freely? Never! I can assure you, they will never fight against either
the Soviet Union or the peoples' democracies.
  Did you make that statement?
  Mr. ROBESON: I do not remember that. But what is perfectly clear today is
that nine hundred million other colored people have told you that they will
not. Four hundred million in India, and millions everywhere, have told you,
precisely, that the colored people are not going to die for anybody: they
are going to die for their independence. We are dealing not with fifteen
million colored people, we are dealing with hundreds of millions.
  Mr. KEARNEY: The witness has answered the question and he does not have to
make a speech. . . .
  Mr. ROBESON: In Russia I felt for the first time like a full human being.
No color prejudice like in Mississippi, no color prejudice like in
Washington. It was the first time I felt like a human being. Where I did not
feel the pressure of color as I feel [it] in this Committee today.
  Mr. SCHERER: Why do you not stay in Russia?
  Mr. ROBESON: Because my father was a slave, and my people died to build
this country, and I am going to stay here, and have a part of it just like
you. And no Fascist-minded people will drive me from it. Is that clear? I am
for peace with the Soviet Union, and I am for peace with China, and I am not
for peace or friendship with the Fascist Franco, and I am not for peace with
Fascist Nazi Germans. I am for peace with decent people.
  Mr. SCHERER: You are here because you are promoting the Communist cause.
  Mr. ROBESON: I am here because I am opposing the neo-Fascist cause which I
see arising in these committees. You are like the Alien [and] Sedition Act,
and Jefferson could be sitting here, and Frederick Douglass could be sitting
here, and Eugene Debs could be here.
  . . . .
  THE CHAIRMAN: Now, what prejudice are you talking about? You were
graduated from Rutgers and you were graduated from the University of
Pennsylvania. I remember seeing you play football at Lehigh.
  Mr. ROBESON: We beat Lehigh.
  THE CHAIRMAN: And we had a lot of trouble with you.
  Mr. ROBESON: That is right. DeWysocki was playing in my team.
  THE CHAIRMAN: There was no prejudice against you. Why did you not send
your son to Rutgers?
  Mr. ROBESON: Just a moment. This is something that I challenge very
deeply, and very sincerely: that the success of a few Negroes, including
myself or Jackie Robinson can make up-and here is a study from Columbia
University-for seven hundred dollars a year for thousands of Negro families
in the South. My father was a slave, and I have cousins who are
sharecroppers, and I do not see my success in terms of myself. That is the
reason my own success has not meant what it should mean: I have sacrificed
literally hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars for what I
believe in.
  Mr. ARENS: While you were in Moscow, did you make a speech lauding Stalin?
  Mr. ROBESON: I do not know.
  Mr. ARENS: Did you say, in effect, that Stalin was a great man, and Stalin
had done much for the Russian people, for all of the nations of the world,
for all working people of the earth? Did you say something to that effect
about Stalin when you were in Moscow?
  Mr. ROBESON: I cannot remember.
  Mr. ARENS: Do you have a recollection of praising Stalin?
  Mr. ROBESON: I said a lot about Soviet people, fighting for the peoples of
the earth.
  Mr. ARENS: Did you praise Stalin?
  Mr. ROBESON: I do not remember.
  Mr. ARENS: Have you recently changed your mind about Stalin?
  Mr. ROBESON: Whatever has happened to Stalin, gentlemen, is a question for
the Soviet Union, and I would not argue with a representative of the people
who, in building America, wasted sixty to a hundred million lives of my
people, black people drawn from Africa on the plantations. You are
responsible, and your forebears, for sixty million to one hundred million
black people dying in the slave ships and on the plantations, and don't ask
me about anybody, please.
  Mr. ARENS: I am glad you called our attention to that slave problem. While
you were in Soviet Russia, did you ask them there to show you the slave
labor camps?
  THE CHAIRMAN: You have been so greatly interested in slaves, I should
think that you would want to see that.
  Mr. ROBESON: The slaves I see are still in a kind of semiserfdom. I am
interested in the place I am, and in the country that can do something about
it. As far as I know, about the slave camps, they were Fascist prisoners who
had murdered millions of the Jewish people, and who would have wiped out
millions of the Negro people, could they have gotten a hold of them. That is
all I know about that.
  Mr. ARENS: Tell us whether or not you have changed your opinion in the
recent past about Stalin.
  Mr. ROBESON: I have told you, mister, that I would not discuss anything
with the people who have murdered sixty million of my people, and I will not
discuss Stalin with you.
  Mr. ARENS: You would not, of course, discuss with us the slave labor camps
in Soviet Russia.
  Mr. ROBESON: I will discuss Stalin when I may be among the Russian people
some day, singing for them, I will discuss it there. It is their problem.
  . . . .
  Mr. ARENS: Now I would invite your attention, if you please, to the Daily
Worker of June 29, 1949, with reference to a get-together with you and Ben
Davis. Do you know Ben Davis?
  Mr. ROBESON: One of my dearest friends, one of the finest Americans you
can imagine, born of a fine family, who went to Amherst and was a great man.
  THE CHAIRMAN: The answer is yes?
  Mr. ROBESON: Nothing could make me prouder than to know him.
  THE CHAIRMAN: That answers the question.
  Mr. ARENS: Did I understand you to laud his patriotism?
  Mr. ROBESON: I say that he is as patriotic an American as there can be,
and you gentlemen belong with the Alien and Sedition Acts, and you are the
nonpatriots, and you are the un-Americans, and you ought to be ashamed of
yourselves.
  THE CHAIRMAN: Just a minute, the hearing is now adjourned.
  Mr. ROBESON: I should think it would be.
  THE CHAIRMAN: I have endured all of this that I can.
  Mr. ROBESON: Can I read my statement?
  THE CHAIRMAN: No, you cannot read it. The meeting is adjourned.
  Mr. ROBESON: I think it should be, and you should adjourn this forever,
that is what I would say. . . .
  Source: Congress, House, Committee on Un-American Activities,
Investigation of the Unauthorized Use of U.S. Passports, 84th Congress, Part
3, June 12, 1956; in Thirty Years of Treason: Excerpts from Hearings Before
the House Committee on Un-American Activities, 1938-1968, Eric Bentley, ed.
(New York: Viking Press, 1971), 770.
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2) alcuni NOMI E FATTI CONCERNENTI
During the Cold War era, the House Committee on Un-American Activities
(HUAC) interrogated more than 3,000 government officials, labor union
leaders, teachers, journalists, entertainers, and others. They wanted to
purge Communists, former Communists, and "fellow travelers" who refused to
renounce their past and inform on associates from positions of influence
within American society. Among the Committee's targets were performers at
events held in support of suspect organizations. Pete Seeger acquired a love
of American folk music while traveling through the South in the 1930s with
his father, a musicologist and classical composer, and as an employee in the
Library of Congress' Archive of American Folk Song. As a folksinger
motivated by concerns for social justice, cross-cultural communication, and
international peace, Seeger performed songs from diverse sources to many
kinds of audiences, and in 1948 campaigned for Progressive Party candidate
Henry Wallace as part of the folk music organization People's Songs. In the
following testimony before HUAC, Seeger refused to invoke the Fifth
Amendment, protecting citizens from self-incrimination. Instead he insisted
that the Committee had no right to question him regarding his political
beliefs or associations. This strategy resulted in prison terms for contempt
of Congress for the Hollywood Ten in 1947. Seeger himself was sentenced to a
year in prison for contempt, but the verdict was reversed in 1962.
Nevertheless, Seeger remained on a network television blacklist until the
late 1960s.
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Anticommunist crusader Senator Joseph R. McCarthy stepped into national
prominence on February 9, 1950, when he mounted an attack on President
Truman's foreign policy agenda. McCarthy charged that the State Department
and its Secretary, Dean Acheson, harbored "traitorous" Communists. McCarthy'
s apocalyptic rhetoric made critics hesitate before challenging him. Those
accused by McCarthy faced loss of employment, damaged careers, and in many
cases, broken lives. After the 1952 election, in which the Republican Party
won control of Congress, McCarthy became chairman of the Senate Committee on
Government Operations and its Subcommittee on Investigations. McCarthy then
extended his targets to include numerous government agencies, in addition to
the broadcasting and defense industries, universities, and the United
Nations. After Secretary of the Army, Robert T. Stevens, refused to
intercede to halt an overseas assignment for McCarthy's chief consultant, G.
David Schine, who had been drafted, McCarthy's committee began a two-month
investigation of the Army. Viewers saw the following dramatic encounters
televised live as they occurred between McCarthy, Special Counsel for the
Army Joseph N. Welch, Counselor for the Army John G. Adams, and the
subcommittee's chief counsel, Roy Cohn. Although McCarthy's power declined
sharply following the hearings and the Senate voted to condemn him a few
months later, scholars disagree on whether McCarthy's appearance before a
mass television audience caused his fall. Historians do, however, credit
ABC-TV's decision to broadcast the hearings live, the only one to do so,
with the network's rise to prominence.
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he House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC) held hearings in 1947 on
Communist activity in Hollywood. Under J. Parnell Thomas, who became
chairman after the Republican Party gained control of Congress in 1947, HUAC
not only sought to identify so-called "subversives" in the industry, but
also to investigate whether the Roosevelt administration had encouraged the
production of pro-Soviet films during World War II. In the following
testimony, three "friendly" witnesses-studio heads Jack L. Warner of Warner
Bros. and Louis B. Mayer of M-G-M, and Russian-born novelist, screenwriter,
and ideologue Ayn Rand-commented on specific wartime films. Mission to
Moscow (1943), based on a memoir by Joseph E. Davies, U.S. Ambassador to the
Soviet Union from 1936-1938, had been widely criticized for glorifying
Stalin and for offering rationalizations for the Moscow purge trials and the
non-aggression pact with Hitler. Song of Russia (1944), with a screenplay by
"unfriendly" witnesses Paul Jarrico and Richard Collins, had undergone
significant revisions due to complaints that it was too pro-Stalinist.
Following the 1947 hearings, ten screenwriters and directors, who refused to
cooperate with the Committee, were cited for contempt of Congress. After
studio heads blacklisted the ten-who later served prison terms following the
Supreme Court's refusal to hear their appeal-HUAC agreed to stop
investigating studios and the content of films, and limited their inquiries
to personnel. The subject matter of films, however, continued to be affected
by the chilled Cold War climate to which HUAC contributed.
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Wisconsin Republican Joseph R. McCarthy first won election to the Senate in
1946 during a campaign marked by much anticommunist Red-baiting. Partially
in response to Republican Party victories, President Harry S. Truman tried
to demonstrate his own concern about the threat of Communism by setting up a
loyalty program for federal employees. He also asked the Justice Department
to compile an official list of 78 subversive organizations. As the midterm
election year got underway, former State Department official Alger Hiss,
suspected of espionage, was convicted of perjury. McCarthy, in a speech at
Wheeling, West Virginia, mounted an attack on Truman's foreign policy agenda
by charging that the State Department and its Secretary, Dean Acheson,
harbored "traitorous" Communists. Although McCarthy displayed a list of
names, he never made the list public. The President responded the following
month in a news conference by charging that McCarthy's attacks were in
effect sabotaging the nation's bipartisan foreign policy efforts and thus
aiding the Soviet Union. The following texts-McCarthy's speech, a public
letter from McCarthy to Truman two days later, and a transcript of the
Truman press conference-reveal the paranoid atmosphere that prevailed in the
political arena and affected public discourse and policy.

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2) ELENCO DI PERSONAGGI DI PRIMO PIANO
(una selezione di persone firmatarie dello statement "not in our name" )
The over 65,000 signers include...
James Abourezk, former U.S. Senator
F. Murray Abraham
Rudolfo Acuna, author of Occupied America
Dr. Patch Adams
Michael Albert
Jace Alexander
Robert Altman
Aris Anagnos
Laurie Anderson
Ida Applebroog
John Ashbery
Edward Asner
Kevin Bacon
Jon Robin Baitz
Thomas Balanoff, president, Local 1, SEIU
Russell Banks
John Perry Barlow, co-founder, Electronic Frontier Foundation
Neema Barnette
Rev. Willie T. Barrow, Operation Push
Sue Bauman, Mayor of Madison, WI
Rosalyn Baxandall
Joel Beinen, Professor of Middle East History, Stanford
Medea Benjamin
Phyllis Bennis, Institute for Policy Studies, New Internationalism Project
Jessica Blank & Erik Jensen, playwrights, The Exonerated
William Blum, author of Rogue State
Wayne C. Booth, professor emeritus, Chicago
Fr. Bob Bossie, SCJ, and the staff of 8th Day Center for Justice
St. Clair Bourne
Lawrence Brent Brilliant, M.D.
Oscar Brown, Jr.
Charles Burnett
Margaret Burroughs, founder, DuSable Museum
Judith Butler
Leslie Cagan, chair, Interim Pacifica Foundation Board
Kisha Imani Cameron
Rosemary Carroll
Sen. Gilberto Cedillo, California state legislature
Kathleen & Henry Chalfant
Celia Chang, chairperson, Wen Ho Lee Defense Fund Steering Committee
Linda Chapman, New York Theater Workshop
Rep. Maralyn Chase, Washington state legislature
Bell& Paul Chevigny
Mel Chin
Noam Chomsky
Deepak Chopra
Ann Christopherson, president, American Booksellers Assn.
Jill Ciment
Ramsey Clark
Jill Clayburgh
Marilyn Clement, Exec. Sec. for Economic Justice, United Methodist Women's
Division
David Clennon
Ben Cohen, cofounder, Ben and Jerry's
David Cole, professor of law, Georgetown University
Steve Coleman
Robbie Conal
Stephanie Coontz, historian, Evergreen State College
Paula Cooper
Carlos Cortez, "Koyokuikatal"
Kia Corthron, playwright, Breath, Boom
Petah Coyne
Robert Creeley
Kimberly Crenshaw, professor of law, Columbia and UCLA
Culture Clash
David Cross
John Cusack
Damon & Naomi, Musicians for Peace
Kevin Danaher, Global Exchange
Barbara Dane
Julie Dash
Rev. Herbert Daughtry
Angela Davis
Ossie Davis
Zack de la Rocha
Sheila DeBretteville, director of studies in graphic design, Yale
Ruby Dee
Mos Def
Tony Del Plato, chef/co-owner, Moosewood Restaurant
Richard Delgado, U. of Colorado Boulder School of Law
Rev. Gregory R. Dell, Broadway United Methodist Church of Chicago
Rosalyn Deutsche
Ani Di Franco
Diane DiPrima
Mark Di Suvero
Carl Dix, Revolutionary Communist Party
Bernadine Dohrn, director, Children & Family Justice Center
Julie Dorf, International Gay & Lesbian Human Rights Commission
Carol Downer, board of directors, Chico Feminist Women's Health Center
Roma Downey
Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz, professor, California State University, Hayward
Sandy Duncan
Bill Dyson, Connecticut state legislature
Michael Eric Dyson
Steve Earle
Barbara Ehrenreich
Deborah Eisenberg
Nora Eisenberg, author of The War at Home
Hector Elizondo
Daniel Ellsberg
Brian Eno
Eve Ensler
Riva Enteen, National Lawyers Guild, San Francisco
Martín Espada
Michelle Esrick
Leo Estrada, UCLA professor, Urban Planning
Robert Falls
Nina Felshin, author of But Is It Art? The Spirit of Art as Activism
James R. Fennerty, pres., National Lawyers Guild, Chicago
Frances D. Fergusson
Lawrence Ferlinghetti, City Lights Bookstore
Fifty-three Maryknoll priests and brothers
Norman G. Finkelstein, author of The Holocaust Industry
Laura Flanders
Jane Fonda
Henry Foner, former pres., Fur & Leather Workers Union
Richard Foreman
Thomas C. Fox, publisher, National Catholic Reporter
Elizabeth Frank
Mary Frank
H. Bruce Franklin, professor of American Studies, Rutgers in Newark
Michael Franti
Glen E. Friedman
Bill Frisell
Frank Galati
Peter Gerety
Terry Gilliam
Milton Glaser
Charles Glass
Jeremy Matthew Glick, co-editor of Another World Is Possible
Corey Glover
Danny Glover
Danny Goldberg
Leon Golub
Juan Gómez Quiñones, historian, UCLA
Vivian Gornick
Jorie Graham
Robert Greenwald
André Gregory
John Guare
José Guerrero, director Taller Mestizarte
Guerrilla Girls
Allan Gurganus
Richard Haas
Jessica Hagedorn
Sondra Hale, professor, anthropology and women's studies, UCLA
Ann Hamilton
Suheir Hammad
Sam Hammil
Nathalie Handal
Daniel Handler (aka Lemony Snicket)
Michael Hardt, author of Empire
Christine B. Harrington, professor of politics, NYU
Lyle Ashton Harris
David Harvey, professor of anthropology, CUNY
Stanley Hauerwas
Tom Hayden
Hazel Hernder, author of Beyond Globalization
Edward S. Herman, Wharton School, U. of Pennsylvania
Susannah Heschel, professor, Dartmouth
David Himmelstein, Harvard School of Medicine
Fred Hirsch, vice pres., Plumbers and Fitters Local 393
bell hooks
Walter Hopps
Warrington Hudlin
Doug Ireland, contributing editor, In These Times
Rakaa Iriscience, Dilated Peoples
Alfredo Jaar
Abdeen Jabara, attorney, past pres., American Arab Anti-Discrimination
Committee
Rev. Jesse Jackson
Ken Jacobs
Mumia Abu-Jamal
Fredric Jameson, chair, literature program, Duke
Jim Jarmusch
Chalmers Johnson, author of Blowback
Virgil C. Johnson, chair, theater department, Northwestern
B.J. Jones, artistic dir., Northlight Theatre
Bill T. Jones
J.P. Jones
Sarah Jones
Melanie Joseph, artistic dir., Foundry Theater
Jeremy Kagan
Louise J. Kaplan
Casey Kasem
Evelyn Fox Keller, history of science, MIT
Robin D.G. Kelly, history and Africana studies, NYU
As`ad AbuKhalil, Professor, Cal State Univ, Stanislaus
Martin Luther King III, pres., Southern Christian Leadership Conference
Barbara Kingsolver
Arthur Kinoy, board co-chair, Center for Constitutional Rights
Bob Kinsey, Peace & Justice Taskforce, Rocky Mountain Conf., UCC
Sally Kirkland
C. Clark Kissinger, Refuse & Resist!
Yuri Kochiyama
Michael Konopacki
Rev. Earl Kooperkamp, pastor, St. Mary's Episcopal Church
Annisette & Thomas Koppel, Savage Rose
Barbara Kopple
David Korten, author of When Corporations Rule the World
Ron Kovic
Max, Joyce, and Nikolas Kozloff
Barbara Kruger
Tony Kushner
Rev. Peter Laarman, senior minister, Judson Memorial Church
Mike Ladd
James Lafferty, exec. dir., National Lawyers Guild/L.A.
Ray Laforest, Haiti Support Network
Beth K. Lamont
Martha Lavey
Lisa & Pilar Law
Spike Lee
Jesse Lemisch, prof. of history emeritus, John Jay College of Justice, CUNY
Harriet Lerner
Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor, TIKKUN magazine
Phil Lesh, Grateful Dead
Michael Letwin, co-convenor, NYC Labor Against the War
Richard Lewontin, professor emeritus of biology, Harvard
Lucy R. Lippard
James Longley
José Lopez, dir. Puerto Rican Cultural Center, Chicago
Raymond Lotta, author of America in Decline
Barbara Lubin, Middle East Childrens Alliance
Janet L. Abu-Lughod, professor of political and social science, New School
Staughton Lynd
Reynaldo Macías, dir., Cesar Chavez Center, UCLA
Jeff Mackler, Socialist Action
Jack Macrae
Arturo Madrid, professor of humanities, Trinity
Dave Marsh
Rabbi Robert Marx
Maryknoll Sisters, Western USA
Malachy McCourt
Rep. Jim McDermott
Aaron McGruder
Richard J. McIver, Seattle city council
Cynthia McKinney, former U.S. representative
Ellen McLaughlin
David McReynolds
Chuck Mee
Susan Meiselas
Richard Mellor, vice pres., AFSCME Local 444
W.S. Merwin
Arnold Mesches
Jay A. Miller
Paul D. Miller, DJ Spooky aka The Subliminal Kid
Susan Minot
Mary Miss
Edgar Mitchell, astronaut
Anuradha Mittal, co-dir., Institute for Food and Development Policy/Food
First
Malaquias Montoya
Tom Morello
Robin Morgan
Robert Morris
Toni Morrison
Viggo Mortensen
Walter Mosley
Min. Benjamín Muhammed, Hip-Hop Summit Action Network
Graham Nash
Jill Nelson, prof. City College of NY
Robert Nichols
Linda Nochlin, professor of modern art, NYU Institute of Fine Arts
Kate Noonan
Odetta
Claes Oldenburg
Pauline Oliveros
Yoko Ono
Roscoe Orman
Rev. E. Randall Osburn, exec. v.p., Southern Christian Leadership Conference
Ozomatli
Grace Paley
Michael Parenti
Ron OJ Parsons
Rosalind Pecheskey, professor of political science, Hunter College
Jeremy Pikser, screenwriter, Bulworth
Justice R. Eugene Pincham, ret., Illinois Appellate Court
Frances Fox Piven
Jeremy Piven
Sylvia Plachy
Assemblyman Mark Pocan, Wisconsin state legislature
Katha Pollitt
James Stewart Polshek
CCH Pounder
Harold Prince
Jerry Quickley
John T. Racanelli, Presiding Justice (Ret), California Court of Appeal
Peter Rachleff, professor of history, Macalester College
Bonnie Raitt
Margaret Randall
Marcus Raskin
Michael Ratner, pres., Center for Constitutional Rights
Amy Ray, Indigo Girls
Rev. George Regas, Interfaith Communities United for Justice and Peace
Reno
Graeme Revell
Adrienne Rich
Judy F. Richardson, associate producer, Eyes on the Prize
David Riker, filmmaker, La Ciudad
Boots Riley, The Coup
Faith Ringgold
Sen. Fred Risser, Wisconsin state legislature
Kate Robin
Avital Ronell
Jonathan Rosenbaum, author of Movie Wars
Edgar Rosenblum
Naomi & Walter Rosenblum
James Rosenquist
Martha Rosler
Judith Rossner
Matthew Rothschild, editor of The Progressive
Ed Sadlowski
Bernard & Jane Nicholl Sahlins
Edward Said
Angelica Salas, director, Campaign for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los
Angeles
David Salle
Angela Sanbrano, exec. dir., Central American Resource Center
Luc Sante
Rep. Sharon Tomiko Santos, Washington state legislature
Andy Sapora, Flying Karamozov Brothers
Susan Sarandon
Saskia Sassen, professor of sociology, Chicago
John Sayles
James Schamus, producer-writer, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Jonathan Schell, fellow of the Nation Institute
Paul Schell, former mayor of Seattle
Carolee Schneemann
Juliet Schor, Professor of Sociology, Boston College
Michael Schultz
Annabella Sciorra
Kyra Sedgwick
Pete and Toshi Seeger
Mark Selden
Peter Selz
Peter A. Serkin
Frank Serpico
Richard Serra
Betty Shamieh
Alexander Sharp, exec. dir., Protestants for the Common Good
Rev. Al Sharpton
Wallace Shawn
Charlotte Sheedy
Martin Sheen
Ron Shelton
Alex Shoumatoff
Robert J. Siegel, pres., Seattle National Lawyers Guild
Russell Simmons
Zachary Sklar
Chuck Smith, artistic associate, Goodman Theatre
Kiki Smith
Joan Snyder
Paul Soglin, former mayor of Madison, WI
Miles Solay, NION Project
Norman Solomon
Scott Spencer
Nancy Spero
Art Spiegelman
S. Peg Spindler, dir., Sojourner Truth House, Gary, IN
Starhawk
Jean Stefancic, U. of Colorado Boulder School of Law
Bob Stein
Jack Steinberger, Nobel Laureate
Gloria Steinem
Pat Steir
Oliver Stone
Mark Strand
William & Rose Styron
Steve Swallow
Tony Taccone
Ron Takaki, professor of ethnic studies, Berkeley
Jonathan Tasini, pres., National Writers Union, NYC
Michael Taussig, professor of anthropology, Columbia
Studs Terkel
Andy Thayer, Chicago Anti-Bashing Network
Marisa Tomei
Jesus Salvador Trevino
Tuck & Patti
Marcia Tucker, founding dir. emerita, New Museum of Contemporary Art, NY
Lief Utne
Nina Utne
Luis Valdez
Coosje van Bruggen
Marcia E. Vetrocq, senior editor, Art in America
Gore Vidal
Anton Vodvarka, Lt., FDNY (ret.)
Kurt Vonnegut
Alice Walker
Rebecca Walker
Naomi Wallace
Immanuel Wallerstein, professor of sociology, Yale
Rob Warden, Center on Wrongful Convictions, Northwestern
Wavy Gravy
Rev. George Webber, pres. emeritus, NY Theological Seminary
Leonard Weinglass
Cora Weiss, pres., Hague Appeal for Peace
Cornel West
Celia Weston
Haskell Wexler
John Edgar Wideman
C.K. Williams
Saul Williams
Victoria Williams
Standish E. Willis, Chicago Conference of Black Lawyers
S. Brian Willson
Martha Wilson, Franklin Furnace
Bob Wing, WarTimes
Kryzsztof Wodiczko
Alice Woldt, Church Council of Greater Seattle
Steffie Woolhandler, Harvard School of Medicine
Jeffrey Wright
Dennis Zacek, artistic director, Victory Gardens Theater
Zephyr
Mary Zimmerman
Howard Zinn
Organizations for identification only (partial list as of 4/15/03)

 Activities, June 12, 1956
No. Testo di una DEPOSIZIONE (testimony) di fronte al comitato.
-Stefano


Infatti comincio a dubitare dell'intelligenza di mister *ROTFL-LOL* e non
c'e` peggior sordo di chi non vuol sentire...........forse intendeva dire
che potevano segare le sbarre e scappare dalla gabbia !?!?!? Chissa!
Ciao
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Taglia quello che ti pare e attaccati ai cavilli........per me questo e` un
interrogatorio :
(Copia)
 Mr. ARENS: Now, during the course of the process in which you were
applying for this passport, in July of 1954, were you requested to submit a
non-Communist affidavit?
  Mr. ROBESON: We had a long discussion-with my counsel, who is in the room,
Mr. [Leonard B.] Boudin-with the State Department, about just such an
affidavit and I was very precise not only in the application but with the
State Department, headed by Mr. Henderson and Mr. McLeod, that under no
conditions would I think of signing any such affidavit, that it is a
complete contradiction of the rights of American citizens.
.......................................
.......................................
  Mr. ARENS: I suggest, Mr. Chairman, that the witness be directed to answer
( RISPONDI ALLA DOMANDA)
that question.
  THE CHAIRMAN: You are directed to answer the question.
  Mr. ROBESON: I invoke the Fifth.
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Giano

gabbia !?!?!? Chissa!
Forse che le persone si potevano difendere da sole e dimostrare la loro
innocenza?
-Stefano

e` un interrogatorio :
No. Quella e' una deposizione di Mr. Robeson davanti alla commissione
per riottenere il suo passaporto.  La commissione gli ha posto delle
domande a cui lui ha risposto.
-Stefano

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a Stefa'! tu e` rrrotto o cazzo !
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Me do' 'na grattata e te manno a vaffan....!
Giano

 -Stefano

L'INNOCENZA????
Quando c'e' uno scambio di persona e le accuse sono vere ma per un'altra
persona? :)
-Stefano

 innocenza?
* ROTFL *
In una democrazia alle persone e' consentito NON difendersi da sole. Ti
mancano proprio i fondamenti.

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NO , SEI TU CHE DEVI PROVARE LA MIA COLPEVOLEZZA.............E QUALE SONO LE
ACCUSE VERE ? L'APPARTENENZA ALLA RELIGIONE MUSSULMANA?
Giano

In una democrazia alle persone e' consentito NON difendersi da sole.
E dove l'hai tirata fuori questa? :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

E QUALE SONO LE ACCUSE VERE? L'APPARTENENZA ALLA RELIGIONE MUSSULMANA?
Quali che siano non ha importanza per il discorso.
-Stefano

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TU DEVI VIVERE ANCORA NEL MEDIOEVO!
Giano

 E dove l'hai tirata fuori questa? :)
* STRA-ROTFL *
Alle persone, in generale:
1. O e' consentito NON difendersi da sole;
2. o _non_ e' consentito NON difendersi da sole.
tertium non datur.
Nella tua personale e fantasiosa "De Cesari democracy", quale delle due ?

due ?
Quale delle due .... COSA?
-Stefano

 certe!!ci rediamo conto!
Avranno imparato dalla Bocassini....
-- 
« C'è chi la fuma e chi se la spara in vena,
			a me basta un salto ! »
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Truth is Out There
DonJuan

 
Sei proprio fuori... la classe Ebraica dominava l'economia tedesca a 
seguito del forte debito economico del governo a seguito
della 1a guerra mondiale.. In pratica gli economisti ed imprenditori 
ebrei tenevano in scacco il governo e l'economia tedesca.
La persecuzione contro gli ebrei fu inizialmente solo politica,
in seguito si aggiunse il fanatismo dei vertici del Nazismo e Himmler 
ordinò nel '41 se ricordo bene lo sterminio degli Ebrei a partire dai 
Balcani ecc.
Eichmann, credo si scriva così, nelle sue confessioni dicharava ad 
esempio, sembra incredibile a crederci, che non era per niente 
antisemita, anzi la sua matrigna era ebrea, lui conosceva un po' 
l'ebraico ed in parte lo leggeva e, secondo quanto diceva, se fosse nato 
ebreo sarebbe stato un sionista puro. Dalle sue confessioni emerge anche 
che lui sebbene da giovane riconoscesse di essere stato un fanatico, 
tutto sommato non era poi così favorevole allo sterminio degli ebrei e 
si dichiara contro la posizione di Himmler di ordinarne lo sterminio, 
specie in paesi come i Balcani dove quei pochi gli costarono il lavoro 
di tanti altri.....
Certo direte voi, è un criminale che ha cmq organizzato i trasporti 
degli ebrei verso i campi di sterminio... Lui ha sempre sostenuto di 
obbedire agli ordini e a volte mi chiedo cosa sarebbe successo se si 
fosse rifiutato di eseguir gli ordini dei vertici delle SS della 
Germania Nazista...lascio a voi la risposta.
Aldilà di quello che ognuno possa pensare, credo sia molto interessante 
la lettura di tale libro, Diario di un Nazista ad opera di un noto 
giornalista americano, in quanto permette di vedere le cause e le 
ragioni del Nazismo visto dall'interno, comprendere quindi affinchè non 
accadano mai più atrocità simili come il Nazismo o il Comunismo e  che 
nella storia si sono macchiati di atrocità contro il genere umano.....
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Guarda che se non trovano prove devono rilasciarli dopo 48 ore.....
Non come noi che li processano e li arrestano quasi per tutta la durata 
del processo per poi assolveri perchè non esistono prove.....
Mah !
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 giornalista americano, in quanto permette di vedere le cause e le
=Ti riferisci a:
Diario di un Nazista
Le confessioni di Adolf Eichmann
   di Stan Lauryssens
oppure (forse) a:
Diario Segreto
L'opposizione tedesca a Hitler
  di Ulrich von Hassell
Mi interessa. Grazie
Bis vincit se vincit in victoria
Dente Blu