Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Putin's Not Post-Communist, He's Post-Fascist

Bah, Putin "fascista"? Certo, ha dei tratti in comune (l'ossessione per 
la nazione, la paranoia da accerchiamento, la credenza nella superiorità 
morale del suo po-pollo: "It seems to me that the Russian person or, on 
a broader scale, a person of the Russian world, primarily thinks about 
his or her highest moral designation, some highest moral truths), ma 
sono strumentali: l'ometto è un freddo manipolatore di folle e di paure. 
Un nesso che però ci riconduce al fascismo, quanto meno negli effetti 
della sua strategia politica in Europa...
 
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/speeches-by-russian-president-putin-betray-fascist-inspiration-a-967283.html
 
 
Putin's Not Post-Communist, He's Post-Fascist
By Jan Fleischhauer
 
In order to understand Vladimir Putin, you have to listen to him. You 
have to read what he wants. More importantly, though, you have to see 
what it is that he is seeking to prevent. Often, a politician's fears 
and aversions can be more telling than his or her plans and promises.
 
So what is it that drives Putin? The central theme of all his speeches 
is the fear of encirclement -- the threat represented by powers that 
want to keep the Russian people down because they fear its inner 
strength. "They are constantly trying to sweep us into a corner because 
we have an independent position, because we maintain it and because we 
call things like they are and do not engage in hypocrisy," he said in a 
March 18 speech before the Duma. In a television interview in April, he 
said: "There are enough forces in the world that are afraid of our 
strength, 'our hugeness,' as one of our sovereigns said. So they seek to 
divide us into parts."
 
A Threat to the Russian Soul
 
There remains a tendency to view the Kremlin's foreign policy primarily 
from a geopolitical perspective -- namely that the country is seeking to 
recover some of the territory it lost when the Soviet Union dissolved. 
But when Putin speaks of the enemy of the Russian people, he is speaking 
about something deeper and more basic. The forces against which he has 
declared war are not only seeking to expand their influence further and 
further into the East -- they are also going after the Russian soul. 
That's what he means when he says that Russia must put up a fight 
against the West.
 
But what's at the heart of this soul? Putin has provided some insights 
here as well. "It seems to me that the Russian person or, on a broader 
scale, a person of the Russian world, primarily thinks about his or her 
highest moral designation, some highest moral truths," he said in the 
interview. In contrast to this is a West that is fixated on personal 
success and prosperity or, as Putin states, the "inner self." In the 
view of its president, the battle Russia is waging is ideological in 
nature. It is a fight against the superficiality of materialism, against 
the decline in values, against the feminization and effeminacy of 
society -- and against the dissolution of all traditional bonds that are 
part of that development. In short, against everything "un-Russian."
 
Even today, many are having trouble recognizing the true nature of a man 
who is currently in the process of turning the European peace order on 
its head. Perhaps we don't have the courage to make the right 
comparisons because they remind us of an era that we thought we had put 
behind us. Within Germany's Left Party and parts of the center-left 
Social Democrats, Putin is still viewed as a man molded in the tradition 
of the Soviet party leader, who stood for an idealized version of 
Socialism. The old knee-jerk sense of solidarity is still there. It is 
based on a misunderstanding, though, because Putin isn't post-communist. 
He's post-fascist.
 
A search for the right historical analogy should focus on the events of 
Rome in 1919 rather than Sarajevo in 1914. It won't take long for those 
who step inside the world of echo chambers and metaphors that color 
Putin's thinking to identify traits that were also present at the birth 
of fascism. There's Putin's cult of the body, the lofty rhetoric of 
self-assertion, the denigration of his opponents as degenerates, his 
contempt for democracy and Western parliamentarianism, his exaggerated 
nationalism.
 
Enemies of freedom on the far right in Europe sensed the changing 
political climate early on. They immediately understood that, in Putin, 
someone is speaking who shares their obsessions and aversions. Putin 
reciprocates by acknowledging these like-minded individuals. "As for the 
rethinking of values in European countries, yes, I agree that we are 
witnessing this process," he told his television interviewer last 
Thursday, pointing to Victor Orban's victory in Hungary and the success 
of Marine Le Pen in France. It was the only positive thing he had to say 
in the entirety of a four-hour interview.
 
An Historic Mission for the Russian People
 
When they were first introduced one year ago, people also failed to 
recognize the true meaning of Russia's new anti-gay laws. But today it 
is clear that it marked the emergence of the new Russia. What began with 
an anti-gay law is now continuing at another level: The logical 
progression of the belief that certain groups are inferior is the belief 
in the superiority of one's own people.
And when Putin evokes the myth of Moscow as a "Third Rome," it is clear 
he is assigning the Russian people with an historic mission. 
Responsibility is falling to Russia not only to stop Western decadence 
at its borders, but also to provide a last bastion for those who had 
already given up hope in this struggle. But he is also saying that 
Russia can never yield.
 
"Death is horrible, isn't it?" Putin asked viewers at the end of his 
television appearance. "But no, it appears it may be beautiful if it 
serves the people: Death for one's friends, one's people or for the 
homeland, to use the modern word." That's as fascist as it gets.
-- 
Namib
.....
There's a blaze of light in every word (Leonard Cohen)

 Bah, Putin "fascista"? 
 
earridaje col questurino che va in pausa pranzo senza dire al collega che la versione ufficiale è Putin = Anschluss = Hitler.
O vi decidete a collaborare o vi sbattono in Barbagia, tra le capre come voi!

 
Bisognerebbe semère ricordare che il fascismo italiano nasce dal socialismo.
 
E sempre ricordare che Putin in un 15enniosi e' messo da parte 40 MILIARDI dell'erario.
 
Piu' fascista di cosi'...

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e questo lo sai in quanto cassiere della banca svizzera dove ha aperto il conto, giusto?

 Putin = Anschluss = Hitler.
 
Anschluss senz'altro. Hitler mi pare troppo.
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 E sempre ricordare che Putin in un 15enniosi e' messo da parte 40 MILIARDI dell'erario.
 
Un curioso modo di far fruttare la "proprietà dei mezzi di produzione", 
quello di intascare la cassa :)
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E' uscito fuori il nome della banca russo-americana di NY dove il Nostro aveva una grande parte dei suoi averi, perche' li doveva spostare PRIMA DELLE SANZIONI. Basta fare una ricerchina, perche' qualcosa e' stata pubblicata anche qui.
Per altro credo che la DEA o la CIA sappiano benissimo dove il Kriminale tiene il suo bottino, ma il governo USA e' riluttante ad usare l'arma Fine-del-Mondo.

 -- 
Uno si chiede a cosa gli serve una tale cifra, considerando che la sua collezione di orologi, per quanto completa, arrivera' a pochi milioni.
E che non puo' certo darsi alla conspicuous consumption di un padrone del vapore dell'800.
La mia teoria e' che i suoi amici, anch'essi  miliardari fanno a gara a versargli sempre piu' soldi, man mano che i loro affari si estendono, quindi Putin non deve neanche scuotere l'albero.
Tuttavia sara' interessante vedere adesso che iniziano i primi tagli - sulla sanita' ieri, con manifestazione. fin dove arrivera' la pazienza dei russi, dopo due o tre anni di recessione. Percio' e' interessante leggere i media russi all'estero perche' sfuggono alla censura, e all'assassinio.

 Anschluss senz'altro. Hitler mi pare troppo.
 
di Hitler ce n'è uno solo, vero, maiale nazi?

 E' uscito fuori il nome della banca russo-americana di NY dove il Nostro aveva una grande parte dei suoi averi
 
AHAHAHA, porco borghese, un agente del glorioso KGB che mette i soldi nelle banche del nemico. AHAHAHAH. Voi lumpen borghesi siete lo spasso dell'URSS tutta!

 Tuttavia sara' interessante vedere adesso che iniziano i primi tagli - sulla sanita' ieri, con manifestazione. fin dove arrivera' la pazienza dei russi, dopo due o tre anni di recessione
 
AHAHAHA, il glorioso popolo russo, temprato nello stalin, che ha resistito per 3 anni al bestiale assedio di Leningrado, ci fa una scorreggia comunista sulle vostre sanzioni, pidocchi capitalisti!

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Per fortuna, o vice-quelchepassa.
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Il giorno lunedì 1 dicembre 2014 15:54:36 UTC+1, amalric ha scritto:
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Tipico pensiero Britt. 
 
Tutto si spiega con quattro soldi e due puttane.
Questo dai tempi di enrico 8 (minuscolo)  il grande furto e la strage di mogli.
 
Stai scrivendo dall'ambasciata britt vecchia spugna?