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Titolo: Grandi differenze per gli Iracheni Grandi differenze per gli Iracheni

gli iracheni, piegati sotto il tallone del bieco tiranno in possesso
di temibili armi di distrazione di massa, non conoscevano la possibilita'
di determinare il loro futuro.. adesso e' arrivata la coalizione 
imperiale di liberatori e gli iracheni non conoscono ancora la possibilita'
di determinare il loro futuro ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaahahahhaahah
'azzo adesso si che si puo' dire che e' arrivata la democrazia in iraq
che la democrazia in medio oriente e' il piano dell'imperatore Bush il Giovane
buahahahahahahha leggere per credere ahahahahahahahahahahahahhhhaha
Bye
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3661871.stm
US sets limits to Iraqi self-rule 
The US has warned that the new government due to take power in Iraq on 1 July
will have to delegate some of its powers to the coalition. 
Secretary of State Colin Powell said it was important that coalition troops
continued to operate under US command. 
His comments came after a day of heavy fighting in Falluja, where US soldiers
and Iraqi security forces had been due to begin joint patrols on Tuesday. 
The BBC's Jennifer Glasse in Fallujah says the patrols have been delayed. 
The patrols are now expected to begin later this week. 
At least one US soldier and eight Iraqi fighters were killed in Monday's
violence, the US said. 
US officials said marines retaliated when militiamen opened fire with rockets,
mortars and machine-guns from a mosque. 
It is with the understanding that they need our help and for us to provide that
help we have to be able to operate freely 
Colin Powell 
US Secretary of State 
New unrest was also reported in Kufa, outside the Shia holy city of Najaf, and
an explosion in Baghdad killed two US soldiers. 
The US has insisted it is sticking to the planned timetable of transferring
power to an interim Iraqi government after 30 June despite the upsurge of
violence in Iraq. 
But in an interview with Reuters news agency, Mr Powell said that while the new
government would take full sovereignty over the country, it would have to give
some of it back to the Americans so that the US would still be in command of its
own troops. 
"I hope they will understand that in order for this government to get up and
running - to be effective - some of its sovereignty will have to be given back,
if I can put it that way, or limited by them," Mr Powell said. 
"It's sovereignty but [some] of that sovereignty they are going to allow us to
exercise on their behalf and with their permission." 
'Army of occupation' 
Speaking in Washington, Mr Powell said the coalition did not mean to "seize
anything away" from the planned caretaker government. 
"It is with the understanding that they need our help and for us to provide that
help we have to be able to operate freely, which in some ways infringes on what
some would call full sovereignty," he said. 
But in an interview with the Associated Press, the current head of the US-backed
Iraqi Governing Council, Massoud Barzani, accused the US of behaving like "an
army of occupation". 
I probably wouldn't have made the mistake of letting an army of liberation turn
into an army of occupation 
Massoud Barzani 
Current head of Iraqi Governing Council 
"If it were me, I wouldn't have allowed it to come to this by making earlier
mistakes," Mr Barzani said. 
"I probably wouldn't have made the mistake of letting an army of liberation turn
into an army of occupation." 
The veteran Kurdish leader, who holds the rotating presidency of the Iraqi
Governing Council for April, added that the US-led invasion had helped the Kurds
to "accomplish a major part" of their rights. 
The BBC's State Department correspondent, Jon Leyne, says there is a danger that
the new Iraqi government will be seen as a puppet of the American occupiers. 
Mr Powell insisted that the coalition wanted the new government to have a real
part to play in rebuilding Iraq: 
"From day one on, I hope that they will exercise more and more control over the
ministries, over the priorities for reconstruction, over answering questions of
their people. It is in our interest to have that happen." 
Earlier, Mr Powell said a compromise was being sought in Falluja despite the
failure of a US truce which was extended for two days from Sunday. 
Talks were under way with civic and tribal leaders in the surrounded city to
arrange joint patrols with US and Iraqi forces, he said. 
The aim, Mr Powell said, was to win the confidence of the citizens and to
persuade gunmen to lay down their arms. 
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/middle_east/3661871.stm
Published: 2004/04/27 06:00:28 GMT

would still be in command of its own troops.
Non vedo proprio come gli US possano non comandare le proprie truppe :)
*LOL*
Il giornalista della BBC deve aver bevuto parecchio prima di scrivere
questo articolo :)
-Stefano

 di determinare il loro futuro 
grazie a quel manipolo di guerriglieri, in massima parte stranieri anche 
  loro, che vogliono imporre, pure loro, i loro voleri alla stragrande 
maggioranza degli irakeni.

 questo articolo :)
Infatti nessuno lo ha detto ...nemmeno la BBC, anche se in questo caso la
giornalista cita una intervista dello stesso giorno a Reuters.....
Powell dice:
Il nuovo Governo sara' responsabile del paese dando pero' parte del potere
agli USA che contineranno ad essere in controllo e comando delle proprie
truppe

controllo e comando delle proprie truppe
Una traduzione di fantasia non da poco.  Dove l'hai messo il "so that"?
:)
-Stefano