Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: civilta' "non" occidentale

visto che tanto se ne discute ecco un esempio di cosa non e' occidentale.
uno dei pilastri della civilita' occidentale e' quello
del diritto dell'accusato di essere a conoscenza di che
cosa lo si accusa, il recente caso di
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/26/cat_stevens_midair_terror/
Cat Stevens midair terror incident spurs tougher measures
farebbe pensare - ma e' sbagliato - che si tratti solo di una innocua figura da
deficenti fatta dai servizi di sicurezza imperiali, che il deviare
un volo intercontinentale su di un altro aereporto non solo
costa assai alla compagnia aerea ma rovina i piani di centinaia
di altri passeggeri. Si approfondisca infatti 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/07/aclu-suit/
The wrong stuff: what it takes to be a TSA terror suspect
che linka anche 
http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=15430&c=272
ACLU Files First Nationwide Challenge to ‚ÄúNo-Fly‚Äù List, Saying Government
List Violates Passengers‚Äô Rights 
WASHINGTON ‚Äì A member of the military, a retired Presbyterian minister and a
college student are among seven U.S. citizens who have joined the first
nationwide, class-action challenge to the government's ‚ÄúNo-Fly‚Äù list filed
today by the American Civil Liberties Union. 
[..]
prego notare:
‚ÄúI am joining this lawsuit today because I have been publicly humiliated and
ostracized due to the government's mistake about my identity,‚Äù said Michelle
D. Green, a Master Sergeant in the United States Air Force who has served for 16
years. ‚ÄúAs someone who serves her country and obeys the laws of the land, I
was shocked to learn I was on the No-Fly list. I was even more disturbed to find
that there is no way to get off the list.‚Äù 
ecco, questo non e' civilta' occidentale
Bye
"they're almost all puppets. There are two sets: congressional puppets
and White House puppets. When the chief puppeteer comes to Washington,
the puppets prance"
Ralph Nader on the power of the Israeli Lobby.
American conservative, June 21st. Citato da "the economist" June 26th 2004.
e' leggibile interamente qui
http://www.amconmag.com/2004_06_21/cover.html

 prego notare:
.... che sono chiacchere senza nulla a fondamento :)
-Stefano

 that there is no way to get off the list.,涅
Infatti  risulta che anche il sen.Ted Kennedy era stato messo in quella
lista; un sonoro HICCUP della Federal Air Security che si e`riparata a
dentri stretti dietro un "s.rry h.s been a bad mistake!", ma gli ci son
volute tre settimane per cancellarlo dalla lista.
Giano
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17073-2004Aug19.html
Sen. Kennedy Flagged by No-Fly List
By Sara Kehaulani Goo
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, August 20, 2004; Page A01
U.S. Sen. Edward M. "Ted" Kennedy said yesterday that he was stopped and
questioned at airports on the East Coast five times in March because his
name appeared on the government's secret "no-fly" list.
Federal air security officials said the initial error that led to scrutiny
of the Massachusetts Democrat should not have happened even though they
recognize that the no-fly list is imperfect. But privately they acknowledged
being embarrassed that it took the senator and his staff more than three
weeks to get his name removed.
A senior administration official, who spoke on condition he not be
identified, said Kennedy was stopped because the name "T. Kennedy" has been
used as an alias by someone on the list of terrorist suspects.
[cut]
"If his name got on the list in error, is that happening to other citizens
and are they experiencing such difficulty in resolving the problem?" Smith
said.

 dell'accusato di essere a conoscenza di che cosa lo si accusa...
Giuridicamente parlando, si chiama "habeas corpus" ed e' uno dei principi
essenziali del diritto anglosassone. Tristemente, quest'antico principio
(concepito nel 1679) proprio in questi giorni con la "dottrina del
preventivo" viene accantonato: infatti anche i detenuti di Guantanamo, ma
non solo loro, sono vittime di "incarcerazione preventiva".
Andrea
salo...@mediacomm.it