Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: "and I am OK with that"

Una semplice questione di separazione tra Chiesa e Stato, dice
l'autrice. Io pero' non so se sono d'accordo.
 
http://www.kveller.com/blog/parenting/how-is-a-racist-kentucky-church-like-a-conservative-synagogue/
 
 
How is a Racist Kentucky Church like a Conservative Synagogue?
By Alina Adams at 1:45 pm
 
Stella Harville / AP via TIME. The Gulnare Free Will Baptist Church,
voted to ban interracial couples after this couple sang a song there.
 
This past week, a pastor from a Baptist church in Pike County,
Kentucky instituted a ban against interracial couples from either
joining his congregation or taking part in select church activities.
 
And I’m okay with that.
 
(I know, easy for me to say. I live a few hundred miles away in New
York City, and, at this time, have no interest in ever joining a
Baptist church, either with my African-American husband, or without
him.)
 
Like Evelyn Beatrice Hall (and not Voltaire; although it’s a common
misattribution) wrote: “I disapprove of what you say, but I will
defend to the death your right to say it,” I heartily and wholly
disapprove of the sentiment – but I insist that the pastor had the
right to express it.
 
A church is a private organization, and a private organization can
pick and choose its membership based on any criteria they desire. It
is then up to the current members to decide if this is an organization
with which they can, should, and will continue to identify. (They can
also, presumably, vote to change those aspects with which they do not
agree – if the association is structured in such a manner, and current
news reports suggest that may soon be the case in Pike County, either
from the general membership or from higher-up in the church’s
hierarchy.)
 
Obviously, my husband and I would not – even if we could – remain
members of a church which did not allow White/Black (or any other
combination) of couples.
 
On the other hand – before anybody gets to feeling too superior – we
are currently members of a Conservative Jewish congregation which
allows us to pay the family membership rate – but does not consider my
non-Jewish husband a member, and does not extend him voting rights.
 
When we got married 13 years ago, there were rabbis who refused to
perform the wedding ceremony. And when we had our first son (and our
second), there were mohels who similarly would not do the bris.
 
And I was – still am – okay with that.
 
Those clergy held a certain set of beliefs which we, with our
marriage, were defying. What right do we have to ask someone to alter
their beliefs to fit ours, even if we – and others; maybe even the
majority – believe ours are “right” and theirs “wrong?”
 
Granted, the logical response becomes: A person may convert to
Judaism, but they cannot change races – that’s why this isn’t the same
thing. One is optional, the other isn’t.
 
But, why should it be?
 
My husband did not want to convert. He was willing for us to have a
Jewish home, for our sons to be ritually circumcised, for our children
to attend Hebrew school, and for all of us to go to Saturday morning
services. But, he did not want to convert.
 
That was his belief. Mine was that I wanted to marry this man, and
raise a family with him, anyway.
 
A public school has no right to turn my child away because her father
is a non-Jewish African-American. A private Jewish school can (and
has).
 
Groucho Marx may not have wanted to belong to any club that would have
him as a member (also, funnily enough, as a result of a country club
refusing membership to his family; Groucho’s response, “My daughter is
half-Jewish, can she go in the pool up to her waist?”). But, my
husband and I aren’t that clever – or that sensitive.
 
The synagogue we belong to meets our current needs, and so we are
willing to overlook his lack of status – mainly because it doesn’t
affect us on a day to day level. We are all equally welcome at
services, at holiday functions, and especially at donation time.
 
Should matters ever change and our interracial family finds itself
persona non-grata like in Pike County, we may make a token gesture
towards having the edict rescinded. But, I suspect, we would probably
just leave and find another spiritual home. Why stay where you’re not
wanted, among hostile people who think differently from you, when
there are plenty of likeminded places elsewhere?
 
Though not, presumably, at one particular church in Kentucky.

 raise a family with him, anyway.
 
se andasse a vivere nella capitale dello stato degli ebrei, certi
bravi ragazzi le raddrizzerebbero la schiena. Sfiga vuole che invece
viva a New York. Poveretta!

 WTF!
 
si parla di razzismo WASP, e questo cretino va alla ricerca di
razzismo ebraico. Evidentemente ha dei problemi.

 si parla di razzismo WASP
 
ne parla un'ebrea che lo approva, anche nella variante che l'ha
toccata di persona.

 si parla di razzismo WASP,
 
In Kentucky non sono WASPs, sono hillbillies.
 
-- 
lo Splenetico
Fiskalunion? Nein Danke

 In Kentucky non sono WASPs, sono hillbillies.
 
grazie della info. Tu come la pensi?