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Titolo: Che gli USA debbano *importarla*, la democrazia?

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-bush-colorado,0,2411566
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story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines
Removel of Three From Bush Visit Probed
By P. SOLOMON BANDA
Associated Press Writer
DENVER --
The Secret Service is investigating the claims of three people who say
they were removed from President Bush's town hall meeting on Social
Security last week because of a bumper sticker on their car that read:
"No More Blood for Oil."
The three said they had obtained tickets to the event through the
office of Rep. Bob Beauprez, R-Colo., had passed through security and
were preparing to take their seats when they were approached by what
they thought was a Secret Service agent who asked them to leave.
Alex Young, 25, who was among the three removed, said officials told
them the next day they were identified as belonging to the "No Blood
for Oil" group.
Lon Garner, the agent in charge of the Secret Service office in
Denver, said the Secret Service had nothing to do with the three being
asked to leave.
Garner declined to release further details, citing an ongoing
investigation.
"We are very sensitive to the First Amendment and general assembly
rights as protected by the Constitution," Garner said.
Brad Woodhouse, a spokesman for Americans United, called the removal
of the three people an egregious violation of their First Amendment
rights.
"They're screening the people who are allowed to come and then they're
profiling them in the parking lot," he said. "It's quite
extraordinary, and disappointing."

 asked to leave.
E anche nell'incidente dell'universita' dell'Arizona, nessuno sa "chi
sia stato"
http://wildcat.arizona.edu/papers/98/125/03_1.html
Roba da Unione Sovietica anni 80 (spero che anche il seguito sia lo
stesso :-/ )
GT

Roba da Unione Sovietica anni 80
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Che ca**o vorrebbe dire?
-Stefano

 ha scritto nel messaggio
news:424C7761...@people.it...
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che è un ignorante?
Episodi simili nella defunta urss venivano celati agli occhi dell'opinione
pubblica, mentre i trasgressori erano destinati a percosse e ad un umido
loculo dotato di inferriate. Tanti miei Compagni hanno fatto quella fine, ma
la cosa più tragica è che la verità ancora deve venire a galla. Un giorno
qualcuno, forse, pagherà.
Solidarietà agli studenti americani!

Nella fattispecie, morte ai Gay lo gridano tutti!  :-((.
New York Times/March 31, 2005
Clerics of 3 Faiths Protest Gay Festival Planned for Jerusalem
By LAURIE GOODSTEIN and GREG MYRE
International gay leaders are planning a 10-day WorldPride festival and
parade in
Jerusalem in August, saying they want to make a statement about
tolerance
and
diversity in the Holy City, home to three great religious traditions.
Now major leaders of the three faiths - Christianity, Judaism and Islam
-
are
making a rare show of unity to try to stop the festival. They say the
event
would desecrate the city and convey the erroneous impression that
homosexuality
is acceptable.
"They are creating a deep and terrible sorrow that is unbearable,"
Shlomo
Amar,
Israel's Sephardic chief rabbi, said yesterday at a news conference in
Jerusalem
attended by Israel's two chief rabbis, the patriarchs of the Roman
Catholic,
Greek Orthodox and Armenian churches, and three senior Muslim prayer
leaders.
"It hurts all of the religions. We are all against it."
Abdel Aziz Bukhari, a Sufi sheik, added: "We can't permit anybody to
come
and
make the Holy City dirty. This is very ugly and very nasty to have
these
people
come to Jerusalem."
Israeli authorities have not indicated what action, if any, they might
take
to
limit the events. Banning the festival would seem unlikely, though the
government could withhold the required permits for specific events,
like a
parade.
Interfaith agreement is unusual in Israel. The leaders' joint
opposition was
initially generated by the Rev. Leo Giovinetti, an evangelical pastor
from
San
Diego who is both a veteran of the American culture war over
homosexuality
and a
frequent visitor to Israel, where he has formed relationships with
rabbis
and
politicians.
Organizers of the gay pride event, Jerusalem WorldPride 2005, said that
75
non-Orthodox rabbis had signed a statement of support for the event,
and
that
Christian and Muslim leaders as well as Israeli politicians were
expected to
announce their support soon. They said they were dismayed to see that
what
united their opponents was their objection to homosexuality.
"That is something new I've never witnessed before, such an attempt to
globalize
bigotry," said Hagai El-Ad, the executive director of Jerusalem Open
House,
a
gay and lesbian group that is the host for the festival. "It's quite
sad and
ironic that these religious figures are coming together around such a
negative
message."
Rabbi Sharon Kleinbaum, co-chairwoman of the festival and the rabbi of
Congregation Beth Simchat Torah, a gay synagogue in New York City, said
the
controversy was another sign that each religion had become polarized
between
its
liberal and conservative wings.
The global Anglican Communion split deeply over homosexuality in the
last
two
years after its American affiliate ordained an openly gay bishop and
the
Canada
affiliate decided to allow blessings of same-sex unions.
"I reject that they have the right to define religion in such a narrow
way,"
Rabbi Kleinbaum said of religious leaders who denounce homosexuality.
"Gay
and
lesbian people are saying we are equal partners in religious
communities,
and we
believe in a religious world in which all are created in God's image."
The festival is planned for Aug. 18-28 and is expected to draw
thousands of
visitors from dozens of countries. The theme is "Love Without Borders,"
and
a
centerpiece will be a parade on Aug. 25 through Jerusalem, a city that
remains
deeply conservative, though other parts of Israel have become
increasingly
accepting of gays in recent years. Other events include a film
festival, art
exhibits and a conference for clerics.
When the first WorldPride festival was held five years ago in Rome,
religious
opposition came from the Vatican, while secular opposition came from a
neo-Fascist group that vowed to hold a counterdemonstration. But the
neo-Fascists canceled their demonstration, the march came off
peacefully,
and
even a few center-right politicians joined many thousands of marchers.
One day later, however, Pope John Paul II appeared on a balcony over
St.
Peter's
Square and delivered a message expressing his "bitterness" that the gay
festival
had gone forward, calling it an "offense to the Christian values of a
city
that
is so dear to the hearts of Catholics across the world."
Both WorldPride festivals were initiated by an umbrella group,
InterPride,
that
says its mission is to promote gay rights internationally.
The outcry over the 2005 festival will not be confined to Israel. The
American
evangelical leader who helped to galvanize the opposition, Mr.
Giovinetti,
is
the senior pastor of Mission Valley Christian Fellowship, an
independent
church
that meets in a hotel in Southern California. A former band leader in
Las
Vegas,
he is also host of a radio program heard on stations around the United
States.
Neither he nor other evangelical American leaders were at the news
conference in
Jerusalem, which was called by the chief rabbinate of Israel. But by
all
accounts Mr. Giovinetti played a crucial role in spreading the first
alarms
among religious leaders about the gay festival.
He said he had first heard about WorldPride from a congregation member
who
had
told Mr. Giovinetti that he was gay for many years and still monitored
gay
Web
sites. Mr. Giovinetti said he alerted Israeli politicians and religious
leaders.
Mr. Giovinetti circulated a petition against the festival, titled
"Homosexuals
to Desecrate Jerusalem," which he said had been signed by every member
of
the
ultra-Orthodox Shas Party in the Israeli Parliament. Another American
who
helped
bring together the opposition was Rabbi Yehuda Levin, of the Rabbinical
Alliance
of America, which says it represents more than 1,000 American Orthodox
rabbis.
At the news conference in Jerusalem, he called the festival "the
spiritual
rape
of the Holy City." He said, "This is not the homo land, this is the
Holy
Land."
Annual marches by homosexuals have become routine in Tel Aviv, a
secular
coastal
city. For the past three years, gay parades have also been staged in
Jerusalem.
Religious groups have complained, but the police have issued permits
for the
events, which have been held without any serious incidents.
Laurie Goodstein reported from New York for this article and Greg Myre
from
Jerusalem.

 homosexuality
In altri termini un bastardo fundie USA di cui aspetto con pazienza il
giorno in cui li si martirizza tutti una volta per tutte....
Saluti,
Dott. Piergiorgio.

impression that homosexuality is acceptable.
Concordo pienamente.
-Stefano

 che, ad oggi, ha rasato al suolo un newsgroup
Buona omofobia, De Ce'.
Am.

 Buona omofobia, De Ce'.
...disse l'omofobo... :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

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http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/559008.html
After half a century of reticence and recrimination, Israel on
Wednesday honored nine Egyptian Jews recruited as agents-provocateur in
what became one of the worst intelligence bungles in the country's
history.
Israel was at war with Egypt when it hatched a plan in 1954 to ruin its
rapprochement with the United States and Britain by firebombing sites
frequented by foreigners in Cairo and Alexandria.
But Israeli hoped the attacks, which caused no casualties, would be
blamed on local insurgents collapsed when the young Zionist bombers
were caught and confessed at public trials. Two were hanged. The rest
served jail terms and emigrated to Israel.
...
"Although it is still a sensitive situation, we decided now to express
our respect for these heroes," President Moshe Katzav said after
presenting the three surviving members of the bomber ring with
certificates of appreciation at a Jerusalem ceremony.
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Fatemi capire:
Quei tizi sono diventati eroi per aver messo bombe in luoghi pubblici
frequentati da civili per dare la colpa a estremisti Arabi e rovinare
la reputazione democratica dell'egitto.
Se questi sono gli "eroi" di ieri, chi sono quelli di oggi?
Magari quelli che hanno assassinato Rafik Hariri, o orchestrato gli
attacchi stile Al Qaeda contro gli sciiti Irakeni, sempre per scopi
"diplomatici".  :-/
GT


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o orchestrato gli attacchi stile Al Qaeda contro gli sciiti Irakeni,
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which caused no casualties,
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Che ne dici di andare ad un bel corso di inglese? Ti farebbe bene :)
-Stefano