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Titolo: Re: [OT Storia] Terrore negli stati Baltici

 Lithuanians managed to escape,  
erano i tuoi camerati collaborazionisti baltici delle SS quelli che
scappavano amalric.
sul neonazismo nei Paesi Baltici
Resurgence of fascism in the former Soviet Baltic republics of Latvia,
Lithuania and Estonia has been growing over the past decade. Regretfully,
these deplorable actions by the governments and local authorities of the
three Baltic States attracted little attention from the international
community.
In September of 2003 a number of Latvians and foreign visitors attended
the memorial ceremony for the Jewish-Latvian Holocaust victims in the
Rumbula forest, where 25,000 Jews were massacred in late 1941 mostly by
Latvian police and guards. Just a week later Latvian government unveiled
another memorial ? this one was dedicated to the memory of Latvian Waffen
SS members.
During the same month Latvia managed to pacify its small remaining Jewish
population while at the same time making itself feel better about its
history of collaborating with Nazi Germany. Two weeks - two memorials: one
is to the Holocaust victims and the other one to the Holocaust makers.
The SS memorial was unveiled in the Latvian town of Lestene. The event was
attended by the country?s government, religious and military officials.
Three military orchestras of the Latvian Defense Ministry provided musical
background for commemorating 'accomplishments and sacrifices' of the SS
and its Latvian division in the name of Führer and Fatherland.
With the exception of a few Russian and Israeli newspapers the world media
remained oblivious to these events and silent.
Surviving members of the Latvian SS legion marched proudly in Lestene,
their 'accomplishments' appreciated by their new government. Latvian SS
exterminated tens of thousands of Jews, Slavs and fellow Latvians sixty
years ago and today Latvian government considers the SS men war veterans,
pays them military pensions, erects monuments in their name and celebrates
their cause and bloody deeds with state-sponsored parades.
Schoolchildren in Latvia learn that the SS heroically defended their
country against Bolshevik hordes and sought an appropriate place for the
Latvian uberman in the bright future of the Thousand Year Reich.
Unable to accept the responsibility for its Nazi past Latvia is seeking to
rewrite the bloody pages of its history. This is done quietly and
gradually. The three military orchestras playing at the SS memorial
ceremony in Latvia this September had to keep down their fortissimo so not
to disturb the sleeping public opinion of the nations that sacrificed
millions of lives to defeat the monster of fascism.
Today Latvia is not just rewriting its own history but ours as well. We
make this possible by ignoring the SS marching in Lestene; by trying hard
not to notice the memorials to Nazi murderers popping up here and there in
Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia; by closing our ears so not to hear the SS
legions marching in Riga and Tallinn.
In 1946 the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg adjudged Waffen
SS to be a criminal organization. Since 1997 thousands SS criminals living
in the US, UK, Latvia and other countries collected a monthly military
pension paid by Germany and by national governments, as is the case with
Latvia.
This revolting historical revisionism rearing its ugly head with our
silent approval is an insult to the memories of millions who gave their
lives to save ours.
 Latvia?s attempts at rewriting the history of the Second World War have
been a subject of hundreds of news articles, books and public discussions.
The Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs called Latvia?s revisionist
policies in regard to its wartime collaboration with Nazi Germany ?one of
the worst cases of falsification of history.?  1 A number of countries
have to deal with the problem of resurging fascism. What makes Latvian
neo-nazism more frightening is the open official support it gets from the
Latvian government.
During the war Waffen Schutzstaffel (Waffen SS) formed two divisions
consisting of Latvian volunteers ? the 15th and 19th Waffen Grenadier
Divisions. At the peak of its power the SS grew from four all-German
divisions to 41 divisions numbering 900,000 members from all occupied
countries, including more than 150,000 volunteers from Latvia - the
biggest contribution of SS volunteers of any nation occupied by Germany.
Unlike other volunteer Waffen SS divisions created during the war the
Latvian divisions were known for their proficiency in combat and
commitment to the standards of Nazism. The 15th SS Latvian Division was
the most decorated foreign volunteer division of the SS winning 13 Knight
Crosses - more than any non-German Legion. In 1945, after being decimated
by the advancing Soviet army, the remaining elements of the two Latvian SS
divisions regrouped under the command of Waffen-Standartenführer Villus
Janums for the defense of Berlin. They later surrendered to the Americans
at Güterglück near the Elbe River.
In the Spring of 1998 the remainder of this force paraded through the
streets of Latvia?s capital carrying banners with swastika and SS
insignia. The march was authorized by the Latvian government and attended
by the Chief of Staff of the Latvian Armed Forces despite protests from
Russia, France and Israel.2
Only two weeks before the Nazi parade in Riga Latvian police brutally
dispersed a peaceful demonstration by Russian war veterans. A few days
after the Nazi parade in Riga two bombs damaged a synagogue and the
Russian embassy in Latvia's capital.
Later same year Russia threatened economic sanctions against Latvia in
response to the country?s official support for surging neo-nazism but this
threat never materialized.3 Regretfully, Latvia?s official way of dealing
with Nazi past remains to be through denial and historical revisionism.
In 1997 Germany revealed that up to 50,000 former SS members worldwide are
receiving a monthly pension from the German government. This includes
3,377 Waffen SS men and their dependents in the US. Following this
revelation US Rep. Gary L. Ackerman requested a list of the US recipients
of these benefits. The list was sent by the German administration to the
US Department of Justice but it was not made public as was demanded by
various public and religious organizations.4
Among the people who received monthly benefits for SS veterans is the
widow of SS-Obergruppenführer Reinhard Heydrich ? the architect of the
?Final Solution? - and the SS-Untersturmführer Heinz Barth, known in
France as l'assassin d'Oradour-sur-Glane and sentenced to life
imprisonment by an East German court for massacring hundreds of civilians
in the French town of Oradour, qualified to receive a military pension
following the reunification of Germany.5
Kazys Ciurinskas, a former member of the Lithuanian SS division accused of
killing Russian and Lithuanian Jews and POWs, lived in Indiana since the
end of the war. Ciurinskas collected a $540 monthly pension from the
German government since 1960  while living in the US and being a US
citizen. In a 1995-97  United States of America v. Kazys Ciurinskas case
the US District Court in Indiana stripped Ciurinskas of US citizenship.6
In 1999 Kazys Ciurinskas was deported from the US after he admitted
participating in Nazi-sponsored persecution in Lithuania and Belarus in
1941, when Lithuanian SS killed more than 19,000 Jews in these two
countries.7 The case of Ciurinskas was one of several such cases in the US
involving former Lithuanian SS members, but the number of such cases is a
far cry from the number of these war criminals still living in the US.
A large number of former Waffen SS members also reside in the UK enjoying
full benefits of the British citizenship and German pension benefits. This
includes more than 1,500 members of the Ukrainian SS volunteer division
responsible for killing tens of thousands of civilians and POWs in the
former Soviet Union and Poland. The UK government has been struggling to
extradite suspected Nazis but a 2001 Home Office initiative promised to go
ahead with denaturalization and deportation of suspected Nazi war
criminals.8 A large number of Ukrainian SS members also escaped to Canada
following the end of the war to hide within the large Ukrainian community
in that country.
What makes the situation with pension benefits for the Waffen SS members
even more repulsive is the fact that the amount of the monthly payments
depends on the rank attained while serving in the SS.9 According to the
information made public by Germany in 1997, the war benefits for Nazi
soldiers totaled $8 billion in 1996 alone and were paid out to 1.1 million
veterans and dependents worldwide.10
Under mounting international pressure the German parliament amended the
1950 Federal Benefits Law to prohibit payment of benefits to suspected war
criminals. However, the law does not require German authorities to
investigate the recipients of these benefits and has no provision for
enforcement. This makes possible for thousands of suspected and known war
criminals, including those living in the US, UK and Latvia, to continue
receiving their SS pensions, even as hundreds of thousands of their
surviving victims received no compensation from Germany or received a
one-time check for a few hundred dollars for their troubles.
While attending a memorial ceremony for the Jewish-Latvian Holocaust
victims in Latvia this September Israel?s Knesset Speaker Ruby Rivlin
said: ?We will remember their murderers - each and every one of them... We
will remember, and we will continue to remind the world, of the greatest
crime against humanity; of the criminals who committed it; and of the
people who made it possible. We do not, and will not accept the attempt to
clear a nation's conscience, by blaming everything that happened here
entirely on the Nazi occupation. Latvia, as other young European
democracies, is yet to face its true past, the awful truth. The Latvian
people have much to answer for. Pardoning the worst of murderers, treating
them as heroes, or freedom fighters, allowing them to march proudly on the
streets - all that is spitting in the faces of the women, children and
babies massacred here.?
The Latvian Parliament Speaker Ingrida Udre responded with tears in her
eyes: ?We will remember this terrible crime so that it will not be able to
repeat itself. We must continue to investigate our role, and we will do
so, and emphasize who are the guilty and who were the innocent victims.?11
The next weekend Ingrida Udre spent celebrating the opening of the Latvian
Waffen SS cemetery. The ceremony was attended by Latvia?s Culture Minister
Inguna Ribena, members of the Parliament, representatives of the Church,
and Latvian military officials.12
ewriting of history and resurgence of fascism is only possible with our
silent approval. We don't know, we don't care, we are too busy. Some think
Nazism is about killing Jews and that the Second World War was a private
brawl between Hitler and Stalin. We like to simplify things.
Some six million Jews were exterminated by the Nazis. More than thirty
million Soviets and twenty million Chinese were killed during the war.
Over a hundred million people died around the world as the result of
fighting, decease and hunger brought about by the Second World War.
Deaths per Country
Military
(in thousands)
Civilians
(in thousands)
Total
(in thousands)
Allies
Australia
37.6
2.5
40.1
Belgium Brazil
22.7 1.5
76.0 1.0
98.7 2.58
British Colonies
7
92.7
99.7b
Canada
42.7
1.0
43.7
China
1,400.0
20,000.0
21,400.0
Czechoslovakia
6.6
315.0
321.68
Denmark
6.4
1.0
7.4
France
245.0
350.0
595.0
Great Britain
403.0
92.7
495.7
Greece
88.3
325.0
413.3
India (Br.)
48.7
3,000.0
3,048.7
Indochina
0
2,000.0
2,000.0
Luxembourg
0.1
1.0
1.1
Malaysia (Br.)
0
50.0
50.0
Mexico
0.1
0
0.1
Netherlands
13.7
236.0
249.7
Netherlands East Indies
0
100.0
100.08
New Zealand
8.7
0
8.7
Norway
3.0
7.0
10.0
Philippines
40.0
100.0
140.08
Poland
597.3
5,675.0
6,272.3
South Africa
8.5
0
8.5
Soviet Union
12,000.0
17,000.0
29,000.0 d
United States
407.0
6.0
413.0
Yugoslavia
305.0
1,355.0
1,660.0
Allied Total
15,692.9
50,786.9
66,479.8
Axis
Bulgaria Finland
18.8 82.0
140.0 12.0
158.8 94.0
Germany
3,250.0
2,445.0
5,695.0
Hungary
200.0 600.0 800.08
Italy
380.0 152.9 532.9
Japan
2,565.9 672.0 3,237.9
Korea
10 250.0 260.0
Romania
450.0
465.0
915.0
Axis Total
6,956.7
4,736.9
11,693.6
Grand Total
22,649.6
55,523.8
78,173.4
(source: Dirty Little Secrets of World War II, by James F. Dunnigan and
Albert A. Nofi, p. 49)
The legacy of Nazism is not Holocaust; it's not extermination of Slavs,
Gypsies, Chinese, homosexuals, mentally ill; it's not the great battles in
Kursk, Stalingrad or Normandy. The legacy of Nazism is indiscriminate
extermination of human life.
Adopting this view of the Second World War is essential to all of us.
Every one of us has political views and personal agendas. We tend to look
at the history of the war and try to find some good points about it. Some
hate Jews, others hate Russians or Americans.
Look at the photos of executed Soviet POWs, look at the corpses of gassed
Jews and Gypsies, look at shots of dead Americans littering the shores of
Normandy, look at the gruesome photos of executed Ukrainian villagers.
This is indiscriminate extermination of human life and it makes you
realize one crucial thing when looking at these horrific images: it could
have been you independent of who or where you are and what you believe in.
Latvians, Lithuanians and Estonians joined the SS believing the Nazis
would liberate them from the Soviet occupation; Finland offered itself as
the launching pad of the German invasion of northern USSR believing the
Nazis would protect it from its aggressive eastern neighbor; Iraqi
government aligned itself with Germany hoping the Nazis would rid Iraq of
British control; Ukrainians joined the SS in their hatred of Jews and
Bolsheviks.
Millions supported the cause of Nazism driven by their personal reasons,
failing to grasp the big picture. In the end millions of them died; but
they didn't die soon enough and took tens of millions with them.
We are not about to take on all of the distortions of history. We are here
to address one problem at a time and the problem for today is resurgence
of fascism in the Baltic States. Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia look
forward to joining the European Union. They want to climb on the high
horse of EU's imaginary superior morality with which it judges Russians,
Americans and the rest of the world.
Governments, like people, join together for two reasons: to survive and to
absolve each other of individual responsibility. The EU is willing to take
the Baltic States aboard despite their heavy baggage of suppressed
problems and hastily rewritten history. Their governments hope that this
baggage gets lost in transit. We are here to make sure that it doesn't.
FOOTNOTES:
1 ?Europe's moral attitudes toward the Holocaust in light of the current
defamation of Israel?, by Manfred Gerstenfeld, Jerusalem Letter, No. 475,
April 2002
2 ?Wiesenthal Centre wants France to check ex-Nazis?, by Bernard Edinger,
Reuters, March 18, 1998; and ?Israel denounces Nazi SS reunion in Latvia?,
Reuters, March 19, 1998.
3 ?Latvia's Achilles Heel?, by Tomas Valasek, Weekly Defense Monitor,
April 9, 1998.
4 ?Germans Cooperate With Ackerman's Demand For Nazi Pension Records?, US
House of Representatives, press release, April 11, 1997
5 ?War criminals get pensions?, Associated Press, Feb. 7, 1997
6 United States of America vs. Kazys Ciurinskas, No. 2:93 CV 97JM, trial
transcript, Jun. 18, 1997.
7 ?Another member of Nazi's killing battalion deported?, Associated Press,
May 13, 1999.
8 ?Straw targets Nazi suspects?, BBC, Jan. 13, 2001
9 ?German Pensions To Waffen SS Veterans Unfathomable?, American Jewish
Committee, Feb. 4, 1997
10 ?Germany halts pension payments to ex-Nazi war criminals?, by Deidre
Berger, Jewish Telegraphic Agency, Nov. 21, 1997
11 ?Knesset Speaker Speaks Harshly To Latvians?, Israel National News,
Sep. 18, 2003
12 ?Cemetery for former Latvian SS unit inaugurated Saturday?, Agence
France-Presse, Sep. 27, 2003
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 scappavano amalric.
Questo e' quello che dici tu, senza darne prove. Le fughe addirittura 
raddoppiarono nel 1945 dopo tre anni di regime sovietico, quando 
l'epurazione doveva essere bella che terminata.  Mentre parallelamente 
aumentarono le deportazioni di massa.
Ancora nel 1991 addirittura l'Estone non veniva piu' insegnato nelle 
scuole, sostituito dal russo, accompagnando una  'politica demografica' 
dell'URSS, con deportazioni e migrazioni interne di russi, per ottenere 
l'estinzione dei Baltici.
Quanto a me lungi, dal dare alcun credito ai collaboratori nazisti. Ho 
anche fatto a con un reduce nazi fiammingo in altri tempi.
 
Ma questo non ti esime di fare autocritica per le stragi e persecuzioni 
sovietiche in Europa e di smettere di inventarti dei pretesti per 
l'incorporazione dei paesi baltici e lo smembramento della Polonia, 
tutta roba resa possibile dall''innocuo' patto di 'non aggressione'.
E ora che vai a piangere in giro dicendo che questo 3d non l'hai 
iniziato tu, ti ricordo che invece sei tu che hai manciato pesanti 
accuse di collusione tra GB e Germaia nazista illudendoti di poter 
fomentare l'antimperialismo su questo NG, passando sotto silenzio la ben 
piu' pesante ed efficace collusione nazi-sovietica.
Vuoi che ti ripeta l'art 12 del Manifesto di Euston?
Am.

 raddoppiarono nel 1945
si la fuga dei tuoi camerati slavofobi e antisemiti che collaborarono con
le SS naziste.
 
Ma ora tanto per rivelare che cialtrone di storicHo che sei facciamo la
lista del chi e' chi di quelli che hanno contribuito a quella immondizia
che hai postato dal sito 
http://peacecountry0.tripod.com/eastbalt.htm
- 
http://www.buchanan.org/pa-97-0829.html
 e' il sito del fascistoide usa
Patrick J. Buchanan , quello che consiglio' a reagan di andare a rendere
omaggio durante una visita in Germania ad un cimitero dove erano sepolte
molte SS e che difese Demjanjuk, SS ucraino che faceva l'aguzzino a
Treblinka.
- l'ex camerata dei nazisti , il fascista revanscista finlandese Antti
Joronen che nel suo sito 
http://uralica.com/antti.htm
 vagheggia la
riconquista della Carelia  
bella coppia di storicHi eh? Complimenti per la scelta cameratucolo
amalric.
Ma non e' finita qua. La perla finale e' che  il sito
http://peacecountry0.tripod.com/eastbalt.htm
 e' il sito della JOINT BALTIC
AMERICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE, INC.
Representing: Estonian American National Council, Inc. American Latvian
Association, Inc. Lithuanian American Council, Inc.
 ossia è una associazione di emigranti baltici che sono in forte odore di
SS e collaborazionismo con i nazisti.
Fateci caso : nell'articolo che il cialtrone russofobo londinese ha
postato  non c'e' nemmeno un rigo sulla collaborazione dei lettoni,
lituani e estoni che si sono prestati a massacrare ebrei e slavi insieme
ai nazisti e poi si sono arruolati nelle divisioni naziste di cui parla
l'articolo che segue 
complimenda per le fonti utilizzate, cameratucolo amalric! LOL!
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 SS e collaborazionismo con i nazisti
Che siano di destra o di sinistra frega poco, tanto i dati devono pur 
saltare fuori da qualche parte, con Google. Ed e' difficile per ovvi 
motivi che saltino fuori da parte comunista. 
Sono emigrati baltici, presumibilmente  sfuggiti alle purghe e alla 
pulizia etnica stalinista, e tanto basta. Ma te piacerebbe assassinarli 
due volte. La prima cacciandoli dalla loro patria, la seconda 
diffamandoli. 
Pero' guarda caso la cifra complessiva delle deportazioni comuniste, 
100,000 coincide con quella dell'altro sito sui baltici su cui non hai 
trovato nulla da ridire.
http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-4335.html
Questo riporta le cifre, e l'altro le spiega, cosa che brucia di piu', 
vero melma rossobruna?
E adesso puoi tornare nella tua pozzanghera..
Am.

 Che siano di destra o di sinistra frega poco,
CIALTRONE SLAVOFOBO CONIGLIO, sono fascisti,negazionisti e difensori di
aguzzini SS.
Non potevi che trovare dei tuoi simili e non potevi che postare immondizia
negazionista.
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*Provalo*
Cmq. c'e' anche Wikipedia che non e' contestata, e addirittura un museo 
di uno di questi massacri, in *Estonia*
 
Rainiai massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainiai_massacre
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Rainiai massacre  was the mass murder of between 70 and 80, 
Lithuanian political prisoners by the NKVD, with help from the Red Army, 
in a forest near Tel?iai, Lithuania, during the night of June 24-25 
1941. It was one of many similar massacres carried out by Soviet forces 
in Lithuania, and other parts of the USSR, during June 1941. Several 
thousand people were killed in these massacres. The Rainiai massacre was 
far from the largest of these massacres, but it is one of the most well 
known, due to the brutality and tortures inflicted on the victims by the 
perpetrators. Similar atrocities were committed in other places, like 
the Tartu massacre, in which almost two hundred and fifty people were 
murdered. [1].
The Massacre
A decision had been made to carry out the massacre after the June Revolt 
(during which the Lithuanian Activist Front had deposed the Soviet 
government in Lithuania), had taken place and Nazi Germany had invaded 
the Soviet Union. The Soviet authorities were unable to evacuate the 
inmates (political prisoners) of the Tel?iai prison, but they did not 
want to abandon them, as the inmates would then have been freed by the 
local population. Therefore, a punishment squad of the Red Army led by 
Dontsov was called in to "liquidate" them.
Most of the prisoners were put into trucks during the night of June 24, 
brought to the Rainiai forest where they were tortured and killed. Many 
of the victims were so mutilated, that only twenty-seven bodies could be 
identified after they were exhumed, only three days later.[2]
According to the coroner's examination after the exhumation, both the 
report and the testimonies of witnesses, concured that the Soviets cut 
off tongues, ears, genitals, scalps, put genitals into mouths, picked 
out eyes, pulled off fingernails, made belts of victims' skins to tie 
their hands, burned them with torches and acid, crushed bones and 
skulls, and was done to living people[3], [4]). The organizers of the 
massacre included Pyotr Raslan, Boris Mironov, political leader of 8th 
border army Mikhail Kompanyanec, NKVD Kretinga county deputy director 
Yermolayev, NKVD lieutenant Zhdanov and others.
[edit]
The Victims
Most of those who were killed in the Rainiai massacre had been arrested 
for political reasons from the time when Lithuania was occupied by the 
Soviet Union in 1940. Some of them, like Vladas Petronaitis, were 
arrested for their roles in the independence struggle or their societal 
roles in independent Lithuania ("intellectuals", politicians, lawyers, 
policemen and public servants). Some had been arrested as "enemies of 
the revolution" for their business interests, land ownership or savings, 
as Soviet propaganda taught that businessmen and landlords were thiefs 
and oppressors. Other people were arrested for possession of 
non-communist literature (such as books which supported the idea of 
independent Lithuania or were written by authors considered to be in the 
wrong by the Soviets), owning a Lithuanian flag, not giving their crops 
to the Soviet authorities, and similar "crimes". Others had been 
arrested without any evidence, because their friends had been arrested 
or because someone had "denounced" them. This group included mainly 
younger people, such as students from the Tel?iai Crafts School (aged 18 
- 19), and young people from the villages around Tel?iai. Many were 
arrested for having been members of certain parties and organizations 
such as Boy Scouts.[5] These people were not tried, but were held in the 
Tel?iai prison until the time it was decided to carry out the massacre. 
While most of the prisoners of the Tel?iai prison were killed in the 
massacre, a few were released prior to the massacre.
La strage di Tartu
ttp://
www.expatexchange.com/lib.cfm?articleID=2265&start=1732&page=1
The Dark Side of Tartu 
By Steenie Harvey
 
 Wax figures often look crass, but not here. In the dimly-lit corridors, 
the figure of a uniformed Soviet interrogator emerging from behind a 
maroon-colored steel door looks scarily realistic. So, too, does the 
poor sod crammed into an impossibly small cubicle--prisoners were given 
half a liter of water on days one and two of interrogation. If they 
survived until day three, they got half a liter of broth.
July 9, 1941 was a particularly bleak day. With the Stalin-Hitler pact 
in tatters, the German army had crossed Estonia's border two days 
earlier. Before retreating eastward into Russia, the NKVD shot almost 
250 detainees in the Gray House courtyard and Tartu prison. Bodies were 
dumped in makeshift graves and the prison well.
After Estonia's brief period of Nazi occupation, the communist terror 
returned in the fall of 1944. The Red Army had marched back into the 
Baltic states, Estonia was a Soviet Republic--and the NKVD/KGB were 
again the masters of Tartu's Gray House.
The museum details both Soviet occupation and Estonian resistance. 
Numerous photographs show conditions in Siberian gulags and members of 
underground movements such as the Forest Brothers. Almost all exhibits 
have English translations; displays include plans of deportation 
operations and objects from the camps. (Imagine trying to survive a 
Siberian winter with home-made wooden shoes.) One touching exhibit shows 
five locks of blonde hair pinned to a handkerchief--they belonged to 
schoolgirls who joined the underground and distributed resistance 
leaflets.
You'll find the KGB Cells Exposition at 15b Riia St., Tartu.
Opening hours Tuesday-Saturday, are 11 a.m.
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 Cmq. c'e' anche Wikipedia che non e' contestata,
rotfl!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ti sei affidato ad una storiella raccontata da un fascista finlandese che
non e' uno storico ma un fisioterapista... lol
figuriamoci chi ha scritto l'articolo di wikipedia. qualche altro
cameratucolo tuo del baltico?
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 complimenda per le fonti utilizzate, cameratucolo amalric! LOL!
Hai citato una sola fonte, delle quattro.
Come ho spiegato e' la prima che e' saltata fuori con Google, ed e' 
naturale perche' in termini di loro massacri non sono certo i russi che 
vi faranno pubblicita', essendo riusciti a nascondere le fosse di Katyn 
fino al 1989, cioe' per quasi 50 anni.
Cmq, avevo citato prima un altra fonte, e successivamente altre due che 
rende sospetto che tu abbia insistito con ben 5 re-post solo su quella 
della Joint Baltic.
Si direbbe che tu lo faccia a fini di diffamazione, visto che la fonte 
e' americana e quindi anticomunista.
Ma qui vi sono altre *tre* fonti, di cui non si puo' dire che siano 
anticomuniste.
Ti sei ben guardato dal discuterle, e questo mostra bene la tua 
**disonesta' intellettuale**
E ora nega pure i massacri e le deportazioni in Siberia, sia dei 
baltici, che degli ebrei baltici, signor **negazionista**:
Massacro sovietico di Rainai
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainiai_massacre
Massacro sovietico di Tartu:
http://www.expatexchange.com/lib.cfm?articleID=2265&start=1732&page=1
Deportazioni sovietiche degli ebrei (e massacri nazisti):
http://depts.washington.edu/baltic/papers/holocaust.html
Quanto alla cronologia (da Wikipedia):
   *  June 20, 1940 New Latvian government of Moscow-approved ministers 
is formed.
   *  June 21, 1940 New Estonian government containing only left-wing 
activists is formed. Soviet Union arrange a number of Red Army backed 
demonstrations in several cities.
   *  June 22, 1940 France surrenders.
   *  July 8, 1940 Sweden and Germany sign treaty allowing transfer of 
German war material between Norway and ports in Southern Sweden.
   *  July 14-July 15, 1940 Elections in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, 
where non-communist candidates were disqualified, harassed and beaten.
   *  July 17, 1940 The acting president of Lithuania, Antanas Merkys, 
is imprisoned and deported to Saratov, Soviet Union. He dies March 5, 
1955.
   *  July 21-July 23, 1940 New Estonian assembly transforms Estonia 
according to Soviet style.
   *  July 21, 1940 New Latvian Saeima accepts wide nationalisation and 
Sovietization decrees.
   *  July 22, 1940 The president of Latvia, Krlis Ulmanis, is arrested 
and deported to Russia, never returning. He died in a prison in 
Krasnovodsk on September 20, 1942.
   *  July 30, 1940 The president of Estonia, Konstantin Pts, is 
imprisoned by NKVD and deported to Russia where he dies in the mental 
hospital of Kalinin on January 18, 1956.
   *  August 3, 1940 Soviet Union annexes Lithuania.
   *  August 5, 1940 Soviet Union annexes Latvia.
   * 
   *  June 14, 1941 First mass deportations from Estonia (10 000), 
Latvia (15 000) and Lithuania (18 000) to Siberia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Baltic_Republics
Ecco i bei frutti del "Patto di Non aggressione" Nazi-Sovietico.
Della spartizione della Polonia s'e' gia' parlato altrove.
Invidio il pelo sullo stomaco che hai a non farti schifo.
Am.

 Quanto alla cronologia (da Wikipedia): 
ri-ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
qualche altro sito , di quelli che piacciono ad artamano non l'hai trovato?
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 > Hai
Sei alla frutta, eh culotastierato?
Hai estratto da 1 sito gli indirizzi che ti facevano piu' comodo, 
trascurando le diecine che potevi estrarre dagli altri siti che ti ho 
dato, e che ti guardi bene dal commentare *perche' ti metterebbero nei 
guai. 
4 fonti indipendenti che si confermano le une con le altre.
In pratica continui da 24 ore a darmi del fascista per coprire delle 
squallide stragi del NKVD, e la vera natura del Patto di Non-Aggressione?
Mi piacerebbe che ci fosse una legge per chi nega le stragi comuniste.
Se la faranno al PE, tranquillo che ti prenoto un posto in cella, 
Am.

 
http://en.wikipedia.org/
rotfl!!!!
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ah tanto per far vedere chi difendi qualche informazione sui "valori" che
animavano questi gruppi "partigiani" ti trascrivo le direttive del
Lithuanian Activist
Front definite a Berlino il 24 marzo 1941 (si hai letto bene , a Berlino
e nel marzo 1941 quindi prima ancora dell'invasione nazista dell'URSS)
:
"For the ideological maturity of the Lithuanian nation, it is necessary to
fortify anti-communist and anti-jewish actions, and to spread the belief
that German-Russian war will break out, the Red Army will be expelled, and
Lithuania will be independent again. It is very imprtan at the same time
to get rid of the Jews. We therefore need to create such a bad atmosphere
for Jews in the country that no Jew can ever again think that in the new
Lithuania he would have even minimale rights or any possibility of
existence. Our purpose is to make all Jews leave Lithuania together with
the Russians. The more who leave Lithuania on this occasion , the easier
it will be to get rid of them totally. The hospitality extended to the
Jews by Vytautas the Great is cancelled forever because of their costant
betrayal of the Lithuanian nation".
da pag. 154 di The Baltic Revolution, A. Lieven, Yale University Press,
1993
Ti saresti arruolato subito con loro vero amalribaruch?
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 Treblinka.
Denunciato ad abuse:
"il mittente del testo seguente continua a tagliaincollare per diecine 
di volte su IPI lo stesso materiale OT con intenti diffamatori".
Am.

 Hai citato una sola fonte, delle quattro.
ma se in un post ne hai messe 3 di marca chiaramente fascista. vergognati:
è finalmente uscita fuori la tua vera identita', vile russofobo e
apologeta del collaborazionismo con lel SS.
tanto per rivelare che cialtrone di storicHo che sei facciamo la
lista del chi e' chi di quelli che hanno contribuito a quella immondizia
che hai postato dal sito 
http://peacecountry0.tripod.com/eastbalt.htm
- 
http://www.buchanan.org/pa-97-0829.html
 e' il sito del fascistoide usa
Patrick J. Buchanan , quello che consiglio' a reagan di andare a rendere
omaggio durante una visita in Germania ad un cimitero dove erano sepolte
molte SS e che difese Demjanjuk, SS ucraino che faceva l'aguzzino a
Treblinka.
- l'ex camerata dei nazisti , il fascista revanscista finlandese Antti
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