Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Il circo dei nazisti greci cerca clowns in tutta Europa, e non solo

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/01/greece-golden-dawn-global-ambitions
 
 
Greece's neo-Nazi Golden Dawn goes global with political ambitions
Buoyed by its meteoric domestic success, the far right party is planning 
to expand 'wherever there are Greeks'
 
Helena Smith in Athens
guardian.co.uk
, Monday 1 April 2013 18.00 BST
 
Emboldened by its meteoric rise in Greece, the far-right Golden Dawn 
party is spreading its tentacles abroad, amid fears it is acting on its 
pledge to "create cells in every corner of the world". The extremist 
group, which forged links with British neo-Nazis when it was founded in 
the 1980s, has begun opening offices in Germany, Australia, Canada and 
the US.
 
The international push follows successive polls that show Golden Dawn 
entrenching its position as Greece's third, and fastest growing, 
political force. First catapulted into parliament with 18 MPs last year, 
the ultra-nationalists captured 11.5% support in a recent survey 
conducted by polling company Public Issue.
 
The group – whose logo resembles the swastika and whose members are 
prone to give Nazi salutes – has gone from strength to strength, 
promoting itself as the only force willing to take on the "rotten 
establishment". Amid rumours of backing from wealthy shipowners, it has 
succeeded in opening party offices across Greece.
 
It is also concentrating on spreading internationally, with news last 
month that it had opened an office in Germany and planned to set up 
branches in Australia. The party's spokesman, Ilias Kasidiaris, said it 
had decided to establish cells "wherever there are Greeks".
 
"People have understood that Chrysi Avgi [Golden Dawn] tells the truth," 
he told a Greek-language paper in Melbourne. "In our immediate sights 
and aims is the creation of an office and local organisation in 
Melbourne. In fact, very soon a visit of MPs to Australia is planned."
 
But the campaign has met with disgust and derision by many prominent 
members of the Greek diaspora who represent communities in both the 
northern and southern hemispheres.
 
"We don't see any gold in Golden Dawn," said Father Alex Karloutsos, one 
of America's leading Greek community figures, in Southampton, New York. 
"Nationalism, fascism, xenophobia are not part of our spiritual or 
cultural heritage."
 
But Golden Dawn is hoping to tap into the deep well of disappointment 
and fury felt by Greeks living abroad, in the three years since the 
debt-stricken nation was plunged into crisis.
 
"Golden Dawn is not like other parties in Greece. From its beginnings, 
in the early 80s, it always had one eye abroad," said Dimitris Psarras, 
whose book, Golden Dawn's Black Bible, chronicles the organisation since 
its creation by Nikos Michaloliakos, an overt supporter of the colonels 
who oversaw seven years of brutal anti-leftist dictatorship until the 
collapse of military rule in 1974.
 
"Like-minded groups in Europe and Russia have given the party 
ideological, and sometimes financial, support to print books and 
magazines. After years of importing nazism, it now wants to export 
nazism," added Psarras. By infiltrating communities abroad, the 
far-rightists were attempting not only to shore up their credibility but 
also to find extra funding and perhaps even potential votes if Greeks 
abroad ever won the right to cast ballots in elections.
 
"[Golden Dawn] not only wants to become the central pole of a 
pan-European alliance of neo-Nazis, even if in public it will hotly deny 
that," claimed Psarras, who said party members regularly met with 
neo-Nazis from Germany, Italy and Romania. "It wants to spread its 
influence worldwide."
 
With its 300,000-strong community, Melbourne has pride of place in the 
constellation of Greek-populated metropolises that dot a diaspora 
officially estimated at around 7 million.
 
As part of its international push, Golden Dawn has also focused on the 
US, a magnet for migrants for generations, and Canada, which attracted 
tens of thousands of Greeks after Greece's devastating 1946-49 civil war.
 
"It's a well-studied campaign," said Anastasios Tamis, Australia's 
pre-eminent ethnic Greek historian. "There is a large stock of very 
conservative people here – former royalists, former loyalists to the 
junta, that sort of thing – who are very disappointed at what has been 
happening in Greece and are trying to find a means to express it. They 
are nationalists who feel betrayed by Greece over issues like Macedonia, 
Cyprus and [the Greek minority] in Voreio Epirus [southern Albania], who 
cannot see the fascistic part of this party. Golden Dawn is trying to 
exploit them."
 
The younger generation — children of agrarian and unskilled immigrants – 
were also being targeted, he said. "They're the generation who were born 
here and grew up here and know next to nothing about Greece, its history 
and social and economic background. They're easy prey and Golden Dawn 
will capitalise on their ignorance."
 
Tamis, who admits that some of his students support the organisation, 
does not think the group will gain traction even if Australia's 
far-right party has been quick to embrace it. But the prospect of Golden 
Dawn descending on the country has clearly sent tremors through the 
Greek community.
 
"This is a multicultural society. They are not wanted or welcome here," 
said one prominent member, requesting anonymity when talk turned to the 
group.
 
Greek Australian leftists have begun collecting protest signatures to 
bring pressure on the Australia immigration minister, Brendan O'Connor, 
to prohibit Golden Dawn MPs from entering the country. In a statement 
urging the government not to give the deputies visas, they said the 
extremists had to be stopped "from spreading their influence within the 
Greek community and threatening the multicultural society that Greek 
Australians and other migrants have fought to defend".
 
The neo-Nazis have been given a similar reception in Canada, where the 
party opened a chapter last October. Despite getting the father of 
champion sprinter Nicolas Macrozonaris to front it, the group was 
quickly denounced by Greek Canadians as "a black mark".
 
The culture of intolerance that has allowed racially motivated violence 
to flourish in Greece – with black-clad Golden Dawn members being blamed 
for a big rise in attacks on immigrants – had, they said, no place in a 
country that prides itself on liberal values.
 
"Their philosophy and ideology does not appeal to Greeks living here," 
insisted Father Lambros Kamperidis, a Greek Orthodox priest in Montreal. 
"We all got scared when we saw they were giving a press conference. But 
it was a deplorable event and as soon as we heard their deplorable views 
they were condemned by community leaders and the church."
 
"We are all immigrants in Canada," added Kamperidis, referring to Golden 
Dawn's tactic of tapping into anti-immigrant resentment. "The conditions 
that apply in Greece do not apply here, so there is no justification for 
the party to flourish. The really bad thing is that in opening here it 
gives the impression, to people who don't know the situation, that it is 
supported by a lot of Greeks, which is not the case. It has hurt Greece, 
the Greek cause, and Greeks' reputation more than anything else."
 
Despite the resistance, the far-rightists have made concerted efforts to 
move elsewhere, with Golden Dawn supporters saying Toronto is next. But 
the biggest push by far to date has been in the US. As home to close to 
3 million citizens of Greek heritage, America has the diaspora's largest 
community. At first, cadres worked undercover, organising clothes sales 
and other charitable events without stating their true affiliation. 
Stickers and posters then began to appear around the New York suburb of 
Astoria before the organisation opened a branch there.
 
But while Greek Americans have some of the strongest ties of any 
community to their homeland, senior figures have vehemently denounced 
the organisation for not only being incongruous with Greece's struggle 
against fascism, during one of Europe's most brutal Nazi occupations, 
but utterly alien to their own experience as immigrants.
 
"These people and their principles will never be accepted in our 
community. Their beliefs are alien to our beliefs and way of life," said 
Nikos Mouyiaris, co-founder of the Chicago-based Hellenic American 
Leadership Council (HALC), whose mission is to promote human rights and 
democratic values.
 
The victims of often violent persecution at the hands of the Ku Klux 
Klan as well as wider discrimination (in Florida in the 1920s restaurant 
noticeboards declared "no dogs or Greeks allowed") Greek Americans 
proudly recount how, almost alone among ethnic minorities, they actively 
participated in the civil rights movement, their spiritual leader 
Archbishop Iakovos daring to march alongside Martin Luther King. "Our 
history as a diaspora in the US has been marked by our fight against 
racism," said Mouyiaris.
 
Many in the diaspora believe, like Endy Zemenides who heads HALC, that 
Golden Dawn has deluded itself into believing it is a permanent force 
because of its soaring popularity on the back of the economic crisis. 
"The reality is that it is a fleeting by-product of failed austerity 
measures and the social disruption this austerity has caused," he said.
 
In Greece, where Golden Dawn has begun to recruit in schools, there are 
fears of complacency. Drawing parallels with the 1930s Weimar period and 
the rise of Hitler's National Socialist German Workers' party, the 
historian Mark Mazower recently warned against underestimating the 
threat posed by a party whose use of violence was so disturbing. 
"Unfortunately, the Greek state does not seem to realise the urgency of 
the situation," he told an audience in Athens.
 
After spending almost 30 years following Golden Dawn, Psarras agrees. 
Only weeks ago, he claimed, Michaloliakos held talks in the Greek 
parliament with two German neo-Nazis posing as journalists. Golden Dawn 
rejected the claim as "old mud".
 
"It is an extremely dangerous phenomenon and do I think it will get 
worse? Yes I do," Psarras said, lamenting that, with living standards 
plummeting, the organisation was opening offices in traditional 
middle-class neighbourhoods. There remained a simple fact too big to 
ignore: in 2009 the party was a political pariah, gaining a mere 0.29 % 
of the vote; today it had global ambitions.
 
"Ten years ago, if you had said Golden Dawn would become the third 
biggest force in Greece, you'd be called crazy," said Psarras. "Now look 
where it is."
-- 
Namib
.....
- God will take care of you. Whatever you need, God will give it to you.
- I need a shave. Am I next?
(Tom Kromer)

 planning to expand 'wherever there are Greeks'
 
Certo che io non li capisco i Greci.
Uno penserebbe che dopo quello che gli abbiamo fatto noi e i tedeschi 
nella seconda Guerra Mondiale, fascismo e nazismo avrebbero dovuto 
essere l'ultima cosa che poteva prender piede.
Boh, si vede che gli è piaciuto.
 
Carlo "Jurassic Park" 
 

 Boh, si vede che gli � piaciuto.
 
Evidentemente, c'� qualcosa di comune fra la disperazione, la paura e il 
fascismo.
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 essere l'ultima cosa che poteva prender piede.
 
Perche'? Se uno e' violentato da piccolo, mica diventa uno psicologo
infantile necessariamente. Statisticamente e' anzi piu' probabile che
diventi uno stupratore.
Nella fattispecie, una parte della societa' greca (e dei greci
all'estero) ha ancora nostalgia dei colonnelli. e' la stessa parte di
societa' greca che digerisce male la mancata unione con Cipro.
Aggiungi il fatto che questo pezzo di merda ha ricevuto dai colonnelli
una specie di benedizione quando li ha incontrati in carcere (prova
del fatto che i dittatori andrebbero ammazzati una volta deposti,
prima che si trovino degli allievi)
 


 
Osservazione dannatamente centrata. 
 
 

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Questo si, pu� essere.
 
Carlo "Jurassic Park"
 
 

 prima che si trovino degli allievi)
 
Il regime dei colonnelli era un regime fascista solo in senso lato, come 
regime militar-autoritario di destra, ma gli mancava tutte quella 
paccottiglia ideologica che formava l'impalcatura (vabb�: canne e 
cartapesta) del regime fascista, o quella molto pi� truce del nazismo.
Questi dell'Alba Dorata invece se ho capito bene si richiamano proprio al 
nazismo con le sue teorie di superiorit� e purezza razziale ecc.
Sa il Cielo dove va a trovarsela la purezza razziale un popolo che � stato 
assoggettato ai Turchi per secoli, con tutti gli annessi e i connessi: 
probabilmente la maggioranza dei Greci ha almeno qualche antenato turco, ma 
� meglio non ricordarglielo se non vuoi litigare.
 
Carlo "Jurassic Park"