Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Norwegian Doctors in Gaza: Objective Observers or Partisan  Propagandists?

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=35&x_article=1580
The source of most of the information coming from Gaza thus far has
been from Palestinian representatives. One of the only non-Palestinian
voices heard has been that of Mads Gilbert, a Norwegian doctor who
entered Gaza on December 31 along with his colleague Erik Fosse
ostensibly to provide medical assistance to Palestinians at Shifa
Hospital. They have become media stars as the BBC, CBS, CNN, ABC,
Independent, Sky News, and New York Times, among others, have turned
to them as independent foreign observers to provide a presumably non-
partisan perspective. They have been extensively interviewed in the
Norwegian as well as the world press. In fact, Gilbert appears in so
many interviews that one wonders how he has the time to provide
medical help, never mind "doing surgery around the clock" as he
claims.
In his interviews, Gilbert decries what he claims is Israel's "all out
war against civilians." Condemning Israel for "deliberately targeting
the [Palestinian] population" and causing "a man-made disaster,"
Gilbert and Fosse claim that Israel and the UN are lying about the
civilian casualty count and feed the media their own alternate
statistics ( "50% of the casualties are women and children"–CBS;
"children made up 25% of the deaths and 45% of the wounded"–BBC).
Gilbert is even quoted by the Iranian Press TV alleging the Israelis
have used unconventional weapons against the Palestinians.
So are these Norwegians indeed non-partisan foreigners providing
independent confirmation of Palestinian reports or do they have an
agenda? Is Gilbert simply someone "who was allowed into Gaza last week
to give emergency medical aid, and who has worked in many conflict
zones," as the New York Times introduces him or someone with a
partisan perspective?
Gilbert is a radical Marxist and a member of the political Red (Rodt)
party, a revolutionary socialist party in Norway. He has been a pro-
Palestinian activist since the 1970's and travelled to Lebanon in
support of the Palestinians during the first Lebanon war in 1982. He
has long been a vocal opponent of Israel and the U.S. Gilbert has
acknowledged that he cannot separate politics from medicine, stating,
"there is little in medicine that is not politics." He even criticizes
the group Doctors Without Borders for providing medical assistance to
both sides in a conflict instead of taking a strong stance and
supporting only one party. In a 2006 article in Nordlys, journalist
Ivan Kristoffersen lamented the fact that Gilbert allows his
humanitarian efforts to be politicized by his radical agenda.
 The extent of Gilbert's political agenda and animus toward Israel and
the U.S. is best evidenced by his radical support for the 9/11
terrorist attacks against the U.S.
 In an interview with the Norwegian daily, Dagbladet, shortly after
the attacks, Gilbert stated:
The attack on New York was not surprising, after the policy that has
led the West in recent decades. I am upset over the terrorist attack,
but am equally upset over the suffering which the United States has
created. It is in this context that the 5000 dead people must be seen.
If the U.S. government has a legitimate right to bomb and kill
civilians in Iraq, then there is also a moral right to attack the
United States with the weapons they had to create. Dead civilians are
the same whether they are Americans, Palestinians or Iraqis.
When asked by Dagbladet if he supported the terrorist attack on the
U.S., he replied:
Terror is a bad weapon, but the answer is yes, within the context I
have mentioned. (Sept. 30, 2001)
Fosse worked as a doctor for the Palestine Committee in Lebanon in the
1970's. He now leads NORWAC, the Norwegian Aid Committee. According to
Aftenposten, Fosse's passion to work on behalf of Palestinians was
sparked by his time in Lebanon.
According to Verdens Gang, the largest Norwegian daily, Gilbert and
Fosse's current trip to Gaza is funded by the Norwegian foreign
ministry.
Given the partisan — and in Gilbert's case, radical — perspective they
represent, Fosse's and Gilbert's testimony must be weighed with
extreme caution.
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"that will never be forgiven to Pius" (Luca Logi / rodewalder / Golda
Meir)
http://raionim.blogspot.com/2008/12/true-sin.html

 voices heard has been that of Mads Gilbert, a Norwegian doctor
non solo.
Oggi, finalmente, si sono sentite le voci dei medici italiani accorsi
a Gaza, oltre a un chirurgo francese.
E le percentuali da loro fornite sono decisamente peggiori di quelle
riportate nell'articolo.
Il chirurgo francese si è detto pronto a testimoniare, di fronte a
qualunque tribunale, sul fatto che la percentuale dei morti e feriti
civili si aggira sul 70-80% , di cui 30% bambini, 20% anziani, 20%
donne circa.

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GOMBLODDO ANTISEMITA

 donne circa.
N3t scusa.. ma tu a cosa credi si riferiscano queste cifre?
A ciò che i medici hanno visto direttamente,visto che sono in grado di 
testimoniarlo in tribunale?
O credi che si possa allargare a testimoniare anche su fatti avvenuti 
fuori dalla sua vista, sia per luogo che per tempo?
Non so.. questo tizio arriva e in pochissimo tempo si dice disposto a 
rivelare tutta la verità, solo la verità e nient'altro che la verità?
Io qualche dubbio, su uno che si presenta così, ce l'ho...
MGOK

 Io qualche dubbio, su uno che si presenta così, ce l'ho...
Quoto.
Tb