Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: R: l'offerta era generosa

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Ecco, questa parolina "self-hater" denota il tuo fascismo.
Puro, semplice e inadulterato.
Scomodo il piu' grande dei "Self Haters", Noam Chomsky, a spiegarti perche'.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5555.htm
 - Some critisize you as the most militant American among those who are
opponent to Israel, some say that you, as a jew, hate yourself. How does
it come about that you criticize Israel in such manner?
The charges are interesting. Those who know the Bible know their origins.
The charges trace back to King Ahab, who was the epitome of evil in the
Bible. King Ahab condemned the Prophet Elijah as a hater of Israel. The
flatterers at King Ahab's court agreed. Elijah was a "self-hating Jew," to
borrow the terminology of the contemporary flatterers at the court,
because he was criticizing the policies of the King and calling for
justice and respect for human rights. Similar charges were familiar in the
old Soviet Union: dissidents were condemned for hating Russia. And there
are other examples in military dictatorships and totalitarian states. Such
criticisms reflect deeply held totalitarian values.
For a dedicated totalitarian, ruling powers are to be identified with the
people, the culture, and the society. Israel is King Ahab Russia is the
Kremlin. For totalitarians, criticism of state policy is criticism of the
country and its people. For those who have any concern for democracy and
freedom, such charges are merely farcical.
If an Italian critic of Berlusconi were condemned as "anti-Italian," or as
a "self-hating Italian," it would elicit ridicule in Rome or Milan, though
it was possible in the days of Mussolini's Fascism. It is particularly
interesting when such attitudes are expressed in free societies, as in the
case of those you are quoting.
In fact, I do not particularly criticize Israel, but I do strongly
criticize the crucial role of the US -- my country, after all -- in
supporting barbaric crimes of its client state, and barring a peaceful
political settlement along the lines that have been supported by virtually
the entire world since the 1970s. For the totalitarian mentality, this is
"hating Israel," or "hating the United States." King Ahab and the
flatterers at his court, the Kremlin and its commissars, and others who
call for abject submission to power will doubtless agree. Those who
treasure freedom, justice, and human rights will follow a different path,
as throughout history.

 Puro, semplice e inadulterato.
E' quello che intendevo con la definizione "soft negationist".
Usa il termine fascismo -  o nazismo - più o meno a cazzo di cane per
migliaia e migliaia di volte,  in ogni occasione, in qualsiasi contesto, e
alla fine semplicemente non vorrà dire più nulla.
Grottesco e patetico.
rosalucsemburg
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 Bible. King Ahab condemned the Prophet Elijah as a hater 
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AH AH AH!!!
A Elia-Torrieri. Potevi dircelo prima che eri tornato. E potevi anche
venirti a bere quella coppa di vino ogni tanto, invece che lasciarci a
prendere corrente con la porta aperta, per niente!!!
Noi ad aspettarti, e tu a giocherellare con usenet. 
Sei uno screanzato, ecco cosa sei!
AH AH AH AH!!! Torrieri-Elia. 
Nuovo record di idiozia su IPI.
Tb
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