Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Nel frattempo in Iraq

http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/2006/01/dispute-over-federalism-resurfaces-and.html
"Meanwhile, there are some good news coming from Anbar.
Al-Qaeda is apparently being chased down and confronted by Iraqis in 
Anbar and Samarra according to a report from al-Sabah.
Mohammed al-Ubaidi is a citizen of Anbar who took part in a battle 
against al-Qaeda fighters said that people were enraged by the attacks 
that kill civilians in Anbar and other provinces and therefore have 
decided to form squads from the residents to rid Anbar from the foreign 
terrorists.
The reports mentions that several tribes’ sheikhs had a meeting in the 
home of a sheikh of the Dulaim tribe where they pledged to fight 
al-Qaeda and throw them out of the province. There are also news that 
some 120 al-Qaeda members have already fled outside Iraq after a series 
of battles between their cells and the residents of Ramadi and other 
towns and suburbs of Anbar.
According to the same report, similar measures are being taken by the 
residents in Samarra and have succeeded in forcing foreign terrorists 
out of their city."
Mirco

 Anbar and Samarra according to a report from al-Sabah.
Secondo Al Sabah?!   Interessante.
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http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2004/06/06/story823296334.asp
US propaganda fails to win over the hearts and minds of the Arab world
...
Two other prominent media vehicles being used to counter much of the
biased coverage from local media outlets include Radio Sawa and the
Iraqi newspaper Al-Sabah.
...
The US-funded Al-Sabah newspaper - which occupation officials have
described as a model for journalism in the Middle East - suffered a
setback when editors and reporters walked out last month. They alleged
that American overseers had threatened their future editorial
independence.
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Cioe, un'organo di propaganda cosi' trasparente che anche il suo
editor-in-chief se ne ando' via disgustato.   Chi puo' crederci, oltre
a "Mirco Romanato"?  Magari un "normalissimo irakeno"
tipo " 
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com
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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/18/arts/18blog.html?ex=1137474000&en=1415a634c157c031&ei=5070
Pro-American Iraqi Blog Provokes Intrigue and Vitriol
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The blog, which is quite upbeat about the American presence in Iraq,
had provoked a deluge of intrigue and vitriol. People posting messages
on an American Web site called Martini Republic accused the three
bloggers of working for the C.I.A., of being American puppets, of not
being Iraqis and even of not existing at all.
Then abruptly, at the end of last month, Ali quit the blog without
telling his brothers while they were in the United States attending a
blogging conference at Harvard and taking part in a tour sponsored by
Spirit of America, a nongovernmental group founded after 9/11 that
describes itself as "advancing freedom, democracy and peace abroad."
Ali's last post sounded ominous, a kind of blogger's "Dear John" note:
"I just can't keep doing this anymore. My stand regarding America has
never changed. I still love America and feel grateful to all those who
helped us get our freedom and are still helping us establishing
democracy in our country. But it's the act of some Americans that made
me feel I'm on the wrong side here. I will expose these people in
public very soon, and I won't lack the means to do this."
What happened?
Ali seemed to have gone through a radical transformation when he found
out that his brothers, both described as dentists on their Web site,
had met President Bush. Odd. I scrolled down a bit into the past and
found that in mid-December a conspiracy theory had emerged about Iraq
the Model on Martini Republic.
One of the principal bloggers there, Joseph Mailander, had some
questions for the Iraqi brothers. He wanted to know whether someone in
the United States government or close to it had set up the blog. (The
Web host, based in Abilene, Tex., is called CIATech Solutions.) And
what about the two brothers' tour of the United States? Did the
American government "have a shadow role in promoting it?"
The questions boiled down to whether Iraq the Model had been
"astroturfed." Astroturfing occurs when a supposedly grass-roots
operation actually is getting help from a powerful think tank,
governmental agency or any outside source with an agenda. Why else,
Martini Republic asked, would the brothers have been feted in
Washington?
Ali, while he was still at Iraq the Model, tried to quell some of the
doubts: "Hi, I would be happy to answer your questions, as you do raise
some valid questions." To the question of the Web host in Abilene, he
responded, "All I remember is that we started our blog through the free
blogger.com
!"
Ali explained the name of the Web host, CIATech Solutions, by pasting
in an e-mail message he got from an employee of the company explaining
that the C.I.A. in the name is short for Complex Internet Applications
and that the company "has nothing to do with the U.S. government."
As for financing, Ali said that Iraq the Model had received private
donations from Americans, Australians, French, British and Iraqi
citizens. In addition, the brothers were promised money from Spirit of
America. But, he added, "We haven't got it yet."
That did not quiet the suspicions on Martini Republic. A man posting as
Gandhi reported that his "polite antiwar comments were always met with
barrages of crude abuse" from Iraq the Model's readers. His conclusion?
The blog "is a refuge for people who do not want to know the truth
about Iraq, and the brothers take care to provide them with a
comfortable information cocoon." He added, "I hope some serious
attention will be brought to bear on these Fadhil brothers and reveal
them as frauds."
What kind of frauds? One reader suggested that the brothers were real
Iraqis but were being coached on what to write. Another, in support of
that theory, noted the brothers' suspiciously fluent English. A third
person observed that coaching wasn't necessary. All the C.I.A. would
need to do to influence American opinion was find one pro-war blog and
get a paper like USA Today to write about it.
Martini Republic pointed out that the pro-war blog was getting lots of
attention from papers like The Wall Street Journal and USA Today while
antiwar bloggers like Riverbend, who writes Baghdad Burning, had gone
unsung. Surely Iraq the Model did not represent the mainstream of Iraqi
thinking?
Ali finally got exasperated: "The thing that upset me the most is that
if there are some powers that are trying to use us and our writings as
a propaganda tool, you and other bloggers as well as some of the media
outlets are doing the same with anti-American Iraqi bloggers."
But his "if" seemed to signal that Ali, too, was indeed worried about
being used.
That was on Dec. 12. Ali's "Dear John" letter followed on Dec. 19. Then
he quietly resurfaced on the Internet as a blogger called Iraqi Liberal
and, when that name generated too much online debate about what
"liberal" meant, Free Iraqi.
Using an e-mail address listed on Iraq the Model, I got in touch with
Ali to see what in the world was going on. And last week I finally got
to talk on the telephone to Ali Fadhil, a 34-year-old doctor who was
born to Sunni Muslims but said, "I don't look at myself as one now."
Why did he quit Iraq the Model? When was he going to expose the
Americans who made him feel he was on the wrong side?
He was surprisingly frank. The blog had changed him. When the blog
began, he said, "People surprised me with their warmth and how much
they cared about us." But as time passed, he said, "I felt that this is
not just goodwill, giving so much credit to Iraq the Model. We haven't
accomplished anything, really."
His views took a sharp turn when his two brothers met with the
president. There wasn't supposed to be any press coverage about their
trip to the United States, he said. But The Washington Post wrote about
the meeting, and the Arabic press ended up translating the story,
which, Ali felt, put his family in real danger.
Anyway, he said, he didn't see any sense in his brothers' meeting with
President Bush. "My brothers say it happened accidentally, that it was
not planned." But why, he asked, take such an "unnecessary risk"? He
explained his worries: "Here some people would kill you for just
writing to an American."
Ali never did expose the people who made him feel that he was on the
wrong side, and in fact conceded that he couldn't. As he confided on
the phone, "I didn't know who the people were." Instead, he started his
own blog. He said he had always wanted to do that anyway.
"Me and my brothers," he said, "we generally agree on Iraq and the
future." (He is helping his brother Mohammed, who is running on the
Iraqi Pro-Democracy Party ticket in the Jan. 30 election.) But there is
one important difference: "My brothers have confidence in the American
administration. I have my questions."
Now that seems genuine.
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romacazzo dovresti conoscere l'ice pick lobotomy mi pare che il trattamento
faccia al caso tuo.

GRANDE TORRIERI IL ROMACAZZO SPUTTANATO A FONDO... Ora che non ha più
certezze cadrà in depressione e tenterà al suicidio, a quel punto
interverrò io con una bella lobotomia frontale totale.

 interverrò io con una bella lobotomia frontale totale.
Quando te la fai?
-
Un piacevolmente sorpreso Tb
-- 
TBLOG
http://tonibaruch.blogspot.com

 Pro-American Iraqi Blog Provokes Intrigue and Vitriol
Alla fine ci hai incollato un LUNGO articolo pieno di dicerie, 
supposizioni, mezze verità e accuse senza fondamento.
Che non prova nulla, a parte che il NYT ormai è peggio di Liberazione e 
del Manifesto.
Mirco

 Quando te la fai?
Quando vuoi che se la faccia?
Quando riusciranno a localizzare l'unico neurone rimasto.
Mirco

 Un piacevolmente sorpreso Tb
bambini di 10 anni trollano meglio di te... mi osorge il dubbio che tu te la
sia già fatta.

Mirco Romanato wrote:
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Hai proprio bisogno di quel trattamento che ti dicevo. Il NYT ti ha
sputtanato alla grande coglione fanatico.

 bambini di 10 anni trollano meglio di te... 
Ti vedo acido... acido... e impotente.
Dai l'impressione di un cretino su un montarozzo di trucioli.
Continua a tenerli umidi, eh.
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 Alla fine ci hai incollato un LUNGO articolo pieno di dicerie,
Ma ci sei o ci fai?  Il "giornale" da cui trai il tuo articolo E
FINANZIATO E DIRETTO DAL PENTAGONO.  E QUANDO DICO "DIRETTO" DICO CHE
L'EDITORE IRAKENO SE NE ANDO'
DISGUSTATO DAL FATTO CHE IL PENTAGONO NON GLI LASCIAVA IL PIU
ELEMENTARE CONTROLLO EDITORIALE.
Secondo te un "giornale" simile, e quelli che lo quotano, hanno un
minimo di credibilita'?
GT

 
Ma non lo hai capito che romacazzo si è fatto il lavaggio del cervello da
solo?

" 
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com
":
Accusato di essere al servizio della CIA e poi invece diventa una
persona seria perche' ha i suoi dubbi sul governo USA?
*ROTFL*
-Stefano

minimo di credibilita'?
Invece il giornale che hai quotato tu, il Sunday Business Post, dovrebbe
avere un minimo di credibilita'? :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

>E QUANDO DICO "DIRETTO" DICO CHE L'EDITORE IRAKENO SE NE ANDO'
Dopo anni e anni nei paesi anglofoni dovresti aver imparato a stare 
attento ai falsi amici, Torrieri.
"Editor" non significa editore.
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