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Titolo: La faccia come il Rumsfeld

Smarriti il buon senso e l'onestą, mr. Rumsfeld comincia a perdere anche la
memoria. Che l'Alzheimer sia contagioso? Shalom.
Namib
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http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/04/03/ana04004.html
BuzzFlash News Analysis
March 15, 2004
Rumsfeld Caught Lying, Yet Again, On "Face the Nation." But This Time, a
Journalist Actually Threw It In His Face.
A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS
Thanks to David Sirota of the Center for American Progress for spotting and
forwarding this excerpt in which Rumsfeld is caught in a brazen lie by Bob
Schieffer of CBS. Sirota also suggests seeing this [LINK] for further proof
of Rumsfeld's lie on "Face the Nation."
Excerpt from "Face the Nation":
SCHIEFFER: Well, let me just ask you this. If they did not have these
weapons of mass destruction, though, granted all of that is true, why then
did they pose an immediate threat to us, to this country?
Sec. RUMSFELD: Well, you're the--you and a few other critics are the only
people I've heard use the phrase `immediate threat.' I didn't. The president
didn't. And it's become kind of folklore that that's--that's what's
happened. The president went...
SCHIEFFER: You're saying that nobody in the administration said that.
Sec. RUMSFELD: I--I can't speak for nobody--everybody in the administration
and say nobody said that.
SCHIEFFER: Vice president didn't say that? The...
Sec. RUMSFELD: Not--if--if you have any citations, I'd like to see 'em.
Mr. FRIEDMAN: We have one here. It says `some have argued that the nu'--this
is you speaking--`that the nuclear threat from Iraq is not imminent, that
Saddam is at least five to seven years away from having nuclear weapons. I
would not be so certain.'
Sec. RUMSFELD: And--and...
Mr. FRIEDMAN: It was close to imminent.
Sec. RUMSFELD: Well, I've--I've tried to be precise, and I've tried to be
accurate. I'm s--suppose I've...
Mr. FRIEDMAN: `No terrorist state poses a greater or more immediate threat
to the security of our people and the stability of the world and the regime
of Saddam Hussein in Iraq.'
Sec. RUMSFELD: Mm-hmm. It--my view of--of the situation was that he--he
had--we--we believe, the best intelligence that we had and other countries
had and that--that we believed and we still do not know--we will know.

anche la memoria. Che l'Alzheimer sia contagioso? Shalom.
No. Solo le persone come te e come l'intervistatore stanno perdendo la
credibilita' e l'onesta'.
Non per niente *NESSUNA* delle citazioni indicate afferma che fosse un
"pericolo imminente".
Ma se vuoi puoi portarne tu di citazioni che affermino *ESPLICITAMENTE*
che era un pericolo imminente.
-Stefano

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Le riporto io e forse fa lo stesso...
Bastano due?
Giano
http://www.caci.com/homeland_security/sec_def_9-18.shtml
CACI - Proud Partner in Homeland Security
Prepared Testimony of U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld before
the House and Senate Armed Services Committees regarding Iraq, 9/18-19/02
[CUT]
[Linea 25 e 26]
There are a number of terrorist states pursuing weapons of mass
destruction - Iran, Libya, North Korea, Syria, to name but a few. But no
terrorist state poses a greater and ****more immediate threat**** to the
security of our people, and the stability of the world, than the regime of
Saddam Hussein in Iraq.
[CUT]
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/index.php?topic=iraq&page=13
Summary Of Radio Tikrit Broadcast
Friday, March 07 2003
<b>Summary Of Radio Tikrit Broadcast,
1900-2100 GMT, 5 March 2003<b>
1. Announcement: Huna Radio Tikrit: This is Radio Tikrit - which is
repeated several times.
2. Programme preview
3. Readings from the Koran
4. Music.
5. Religious lecture on the benefits of leading a pious life.
6. Music.
7. News bulletin starting with news headlines:
a. Doha summit marked by serious argument between Iraq's delegate and
Kuwaiti information minister.
b. Statements of secretary of Organization of Islamic Conference,
Palestinian and Turkish delegates at the Doha summit quoted on Iraqi
issue.
***c. Rumsfeld said that there was great danger that Saddam would use
banned weapons if he saw imminent end to his regime.***

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Un altro paio ????
Giano
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"Tell people something they know already and they will thank you for it.
Tell them something new and they will hate you for it."
George Monbiot
http://www.lossless-audio.com/usa/index0.php?page=952144960.htm
Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz lobbied Clinton in '98 to start Iraq war and topple
Saddam
February 20, 2003-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfield and Deputy Secretary
Paul Wolfowitz ............
...........................
While Clinton was dealing with the worldwide threat from al Qaeda and Osama
Bin Laden, Rumsfield and Wolfowitz wrote to Clinton urging him to use
military force against Iraq and remove Hussein from power, because the
country posed a threat to the United States due to its alleged ability to
develop weapons of mass destruction. The Jan 26, 1998, letter sent to
Clinton from the Project for the New American Century said a war with Iraq
should be initiated even if the United States could not muster support from
its allies in the United Nations. Kristol also signed the letter.
............
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http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,8515134%255E1702,00.html
US denies 'imminent' threat warning
From correspondents in Washington
THE White House today denied it ever warned that Saddam Hussein posed an
"imminent" threat to the United States.
It is already smarting from the failure so far to find weapons of mass
destruction in Iraq.
"I think some in the media have chosen to use the word 'imminent'. Those
were not words we used. We used 'grave and gathering' threat," spokesman
Scott McClellan said.
But if US President George W. Bush never called Saddam's Iraq an "imminent
threat" in so many words, he said it was "urgent".
Vice President Dick Cheney called it "mortal" and it was**** "immediate" to
Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.****
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http://www.nonviolence.org/comment/viewtopic.php?p=5386
..........................
"No terrorist state poses a greater or more immediate threat to the security
of our people and the stability of the world than the regime of Saddam
Hussein in Iraq."
. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 9/19/02
..........................
"Iraq poses a serious and mounting threat to our country. His regime has the
design for a nuclear weapon, was working on several different methods of
enriching uranium, and recently was discovered seeking significant
quantities of uranium from Africa."
. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 1/29/03
.........................
"The threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction will be removed."
. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 3/25/03
..........................
...But Iraq is unique. In both word and deed, Iraq has demonstrated that it
is seeking the means to strike the United States and our friends and allies
with weapons of mass destruction."
. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 1/20/03
............................
...So the question is, when is it such an immediate threat that you must do
something?"
. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 11/14/02
............................

 banned weapons if he saw imminent end to his regime.***
"Great danger" non e' "immediate threat".
Riprova. La prossima volta sarai piu' fortunato e farai meno la figura
dell'idiota :)
-Stefano

 Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.****
Articolo di giornale che non mostra quando "WAS" per Rumsfeld.
Valore meno di zero.
Ma continua a fare la figura dell'idiota con simili "citazioni" che
citazioni non sono, che mi diverto a leggerti :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

 . Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 11/14/02
Qui non c'e' proprio alcun riferimento all'Iraq :)
*LOL*
Riprova, sarai piu' fortunato :)
-Stefano

 -Stefano
#_Tutta quella pagina e`dedicata alle menzogne di G.Bush e D. Rumsfeld per
giustificare l'invasione dell'Iraq; purtroppo e`scritta anche quella in
inglese e non mi pare che sia una lingua alla tua portata.
Peccato!
G.


#_Passare per idiota agli occhi di un imbecille è una voluttà da raffinati
buongustai.
Stanislaw Jerzy Lec

 dell'idiota :)
#_Passare per idiota agli occhi di un imbecille è una voluttà da raffinati
buongustai.
Stanislaw Jerzy Lec

lingua alla tua portata.
Se lo dici tu... :)
*ROTFL*
-Stefano

"immediate", non dalle stellette. LOL
E che ca**o c'entra da cosa e' seguito se non viene indicato quando e
dove e con che parole? :)
*ROTFL*
Dai, riprova e sarai piu' fortunato :)
-Stefano

Tu sei riuscito a leggere solo fino alla quarta parola ...
Se lo dici tu... :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

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Caro Scimpanzè ...Come riassunto dei tre threads posso dire solo che come al
solito riporti cose che non mi appartengono e anche YOU CUT( = "tu tagli" in
inglese) le risposte , che e`qualcosa che non e`proprio leale e non fa parte
della net-ichetta; ti attacchi pure a cose inconsistenti come la negazione
che altri termini (come es.'urgent') possono dare alla parola "immediate"
con una ostinazione che rivela qualche tua fissazione mentale...E` passato
un anno dall'inizio della guerra e le ultime settimane della vigilia non si
e` fatto altro che ascoltare e leggere quelle martellanti menzogne uscire
dalla bocca del segretario della difesa USA.
Conclusione
Non e`meglio che ti attacchi a qualcosa di piu`concreto ? Tu non ti
arrampichi su specchi, tu voli da un albero all'altro come Tarzan o meglio
come CITA (!) , ma ti manca sempre l'ultima liana coi risultati
immaginabili.
PLONK!
G.
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PLONK!
*STRA-ROTFL*
Ti e' bruciata cosi' tanto la smerdata che ti ho fatto fare? :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

 -Stefano
#_hahahahahaha....MA Vaff....!!
G.