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Titolo: Greece accuses Germany of crippling its economy during Nazi occupation as debt-ridden nation's hit by more strikes

quando la crisi divampa...i nodi tornano al pettine... :-)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1253416/Greece-accuses-Germany-wrecking-economy-Nazi-occupation-debt-ridden-nation-hit-strikes.html
Greece accuses Germany of crippling its economy during Nazi occupation as 
debt-ridden nation's hit by more strikes
By Mail Foreign Service
Greece has launched an extraordinary attack on Germany over its debt crisis, 
accusing the nation of failing to offer compensation for the economic impact 
of the Nazi occupation.
Deputy prime minister Theodoros Pangalos said the largest EU nation had no 
right to criticise Greece's finances, especially when the World War II 
occupation had wrecked its economy and slaughtered thousands.
A German state finance minister said Greece had to help itself out of its 
precarious fiscal situation and could not expect Germany or the European 
Union to bail it out.
Chancellor Angela Merkel has so far deflected appeals to promise aid to the 
heavily-indebted country, despite fears that failure to help could threaten 
the euro.
But an outraged Mr Pangalos lashed back, saying: 'They took away the Greek 
gold that was at the Bank of Greece, they took away the Greek money and they 
never gave it back.
'I don't say they have to give back the money necessarily but they have at 
least to say "thanks".
'And they shouldn't complain so much about stealing and not being very 
specific about economic dealings,' he said.
More than 300,000 Greek civilians died from starvation during Nazi 
occupation, while thousands more were killed in reprisals.
The economy was crippled, as foreign trade was suspended, agricultural 
output ground to a halt, and the treasury had to loan Germany money.
The EU has asked Greece to explain reports that it engaged in derivatives 
trades with U.S. investment banks that may have allowed it to mask the size 
of its debt and deficit from authorities ahead of its entry into the euro 
zone.
But Mr Pangalos said Italy did more than Greece to mask the state of its 
finances to secure euro zone entry.
Greece must prove to Brussels by mid-March that it can meet its ambitious 
targets to cut the budget shortfall by 4 per cent of gross domestic product 
this year to 8.7 per cent.
Mr Pangalos said the Greek situation would not have reached this point if 
there had been stronger leadership within the EU.
'The quality of leadership today in the Union is very, very poor indeed,' he 
said, adding that it had been better in the 1980s when Jacques Delors headed 
the European Commission and Helmut Kohl, Francois Mitterrand and Margaret 
Thatcher were in power in Germany, France and Britain.
Mr Pangalos' attack on Germany comes as Greece was paralysed by a second 
general strike in just two weeks.
Police fired tear gas at demonstrators in Athens during a large protest 
march against government austerity measures designed to tame Greece's 
massive debt.
Violence erupted as protesters hurled rocks and plastic bottles near 
parliament.
An estimated two million Greeks joined the strikes, crippling almost all 
activity in the country, with with schools, government offices and airports 
closed.
The 24-hour walkout is the first joint strike called by public and private 
unions, representing half of Greece's workforce of five million, since the 
Socialist government won elections in October.
The capital was adorned with posters and flyers calling on Greeks to strike 
to the slogan 'People and their needs above markets!'
Some shops had their shutters down and Athen's chaotic traffic was quieter 
than usual.
People at waiting for buses complained about the disruption to public 
transport. All but emergency flights to and from Greece were grounded and 
ferries were at a standstill.
The protesters' main complaints are against a public wage freeze, tax rises 
and the raising of the retirement age that are part of the government's 
austerity plan.
Civil servant Michalis Korileos, 36, said he was striking over wage cuts.
'I am striking because others stole the money and we are the ones who are 
going to pay.
'They are cutting my allowances and I have two children to raise, it is 
difficult.'
Greeks are prone to take to the streets in demonstrations that can turn 
violent, but opposition to the austerity measures has so far been largely 
symbolic. Opinion polls show most Greeks want to give the government time. 

 occupation had wrecked its economy and slaughtered thousands.
Godwin!
PP

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Siete parenti?
-- 
*Sunspot*
Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting 
different results

 quando la crisi divampa...i nodi tornano al pettine... :-)
In un certo senso, la classe non � acqua: la stampa tedesca vive 
periodici momenti di accanimento contro i -diciamo cos�- costumi dei 
suoi partner, e non senza motivo; poi c'� chi fa finta di nulla e chi 
reagisce scompostamente.
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 scompostamente.
certamente la Grecia sta cercando in qualche modo di giustificarsi per la 
sua situazione, in una maniera alquanto imbarazzante per se stessa per la 
verit�, e di giustificare un possibile aiuto verso la sua economia come 
questo comunque fosse dovuto. La Germania effettivamente paga anche i suoi 
errori in questo momento... 

 Siete parenti?
:-) 

 Siete parenti?
E' il ramo elleno-pirla della famiglia.
PP

 occupation had wrecked its economy and slaughtered thousands.
non mi risulta che siano stati solo i tedeschi a macellare greci.
Conosco altri due paesi della UE che ci hanno dato dentro con grande
intensità

 quando la crisi divampa...i nodi tornano al pettine... :-)
A quanto daranno la colpa a Serse per aver costretto il popolo
ellenico a ingenti spese di guerra?

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Serse no, la Turchia direi proprio di sì....

 intensit�
#_Credo che anche i "Fez Bianchi" albanesi, i nostri ascari 
dell'occasione, ci provarono a spezzarle le reni...

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Ma non era colpa di Trichet?

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anche. Problemi complessi hanno cause complesse...

 Puoi sempre andare a spezzare le reni alle Samoa :)
ardua impresa...gli viene un infarto solo a spostare la trippa dei
samoani che copre le reni...:D

intensit�
ricordi di famiglia? :-)) 

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in effetti la Grecia potrebbe entrare nella partita del nucleare iraniano... 
:-)) 

 ricordi di famiglia? :-))
sto parlando anche dei britt, eh...

 samoani che copre le reni...:D
#_Quoto! ... m'hai preceduto de 'na paNZa...:)
_Guai a farsi proporre lo spegnimoccolo!... O ad accettare un massaggio 
hawaiano fatto da loro

 in effetti la Grecia potrebbe entrare nella partita ..
#_Ando' ggiocano, s�ra Mirella?

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ok, ciao... 

sto parlando anche dei britt, eh...
penso che i greci ringrazino ancora per aver evitato 50 anni di comunismo... 

 penso che i greci ringrazino ancora per aver
sterminato 100.000 greci e aver supportato i colonnelli?

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temo che tu faccia un po' di confusione in fatto di storia...