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Titolo: Un azzecagarbugli come Dececere

Processare Al Qaeda: 5000 arresti, 0 condanne
Il ministro della Giustizia americano John Ashcroft ha un record
formidabile: dall'11 settembre 2001 a oggi ha fatto arrestare circa 5000
"sospetti terroristi" riuscendo a ottenere 0 condanne. Il 2 settembre
infatti, spiega il giurista della Georgetown University David Cole, un
giudice federale ha annullato l'unica condanna ottenuta, quella per il
cosiddetto "caso di Detroit". Il ministero, da parte sua, dà cifre diverse:
su 310 rinvii a giudizio, 179 condanne (ma per reati diversi, tipo
falsificazione di documenti o carte di credito). Quello che è certo è che
hanno fatto cambiare rotta a un aereo perché a bordo c'era un uomo finito
inusitatamente nella lista dei potenziali finanziatori di attentatori: un
tale Yusuf Islam, meglio noto come Cat Stevens, stella pop negli anni '70.
Oh, baby, baby, it's a wild world
It's hard to get by just upon a smile
Oh, baby, baby, it's a wild world
I'll always remember you like a child, girl
Giano

http://www.alternet.org/rights/19948/
Taking Liberties
By David Cole, The Nation. Posted September 22, 2004.
With the latest Detroit convictions overturned, Ashcroft has not convicted a
single person of terrorism since 9/11.
On Sept. 2 a federal judge in Detroit threw out the only jury conviction the
Justice Department has obtained on a terrorism charge since 9/11. In October
2001, shortly after the men were initially arrested, Attorney General John
Ashcroft heralded the case in a national press conference as evidence of the
success of his anti-terror campaign. The indictment alleged that the
defendants were associated with al Qaeda and planning terrorist attacks. But
Ashcroft held no news conference in September when the case was dismissed,
nor did he offer any apologies to the defendants who had spent nearly three
years in jail. That wouldn't be good for his boss' campaign, which rests on
the "war on terrorism." Here, as in Iraq, Bush's war is not going as well as
he pretends.
The Detroit case was extremely weak from the outset. The government could
never specify exactly what terrorist activity was allegedly being planned
and never offered any evidence linking the defendants to al Qaeda. Its case
consisted almost entirely of a pair of sketches and a videotape, described
by an FBI agent as "casing materials" for a terrorist plot, and the
testimony of a witness of highly dubious reliability seeking a generous plea
deal. It now turns out that the prosecution failed to disclose to the
defense evidence that other government experts did not consider the sketches
and videotape to be terrorist casing materials at all and that the
government's key witness had admitted to lying.
Until that reversal, the Detroit case had marked the only terrorist
conviction obtained from the Justice Department's detention of more than
5,000 foreign nationals in anti-terrorism sweeps since 9/11. So Ashcroft's
record is 0 for 5,000. When the attorney general was locking these men up in
the immediate wake of the attacks, he held almost daily press conferences to
announce how many "suspected terrorists" had been detained. No press
conference has been forthcoming to announce that exactly none of them have
turned out to be actual terrorists.
Meanwhile, despite widespread recognition that Abu Ghraib has done untold
damage worldwide to the legitimacy of the fight against terrorism, the
military has still not charged any higher-ups in the Pentagon, and the
administration has shown no inclination to appoint an independent commission
to investigate. It prefers to leave the investigation to the Justice
Department and the Pentagon, the two entities that drafted secret legal
memos defending torture.
And in late July, resurrecting the ideological exclusion practices so
familiar from the cold war, the Department of Homeland Security revoked a
work visa for a prominent Swiss Islamic scholar who had been hired by Notre
Dame for an endowed chair in its International Peace Studies Institute. DHS
invoked a PATRIOT Act provision that, like the McCarran-Walter Act of the
cold war, authorizes exclusion based purely on speech. If a person uses his
position of prominence to "endorse" terrorism or terrorist organizations,
the PATRIOT Act says, he may not enter the United States. The
McCarran-Walter Act, on the books until its repeal in 1990, was used to
exclude such "subversives" as Czeslaw Milosz and Graham Greene. This time
the man whose views are too dangerous for Americans to hear firsthand is
Tariq Ramadan, a highly respected intellectual and author of more than
twenty books who was named by Time magazine as one of the hundred most
likely innovators of the 21st century.
Notre Dame is not known as a hotbed of Islamic extremism – and Ramadan is no
extremist. He argues for a modernized version of Islam that promotes
tolerance and women's rights. Two days after 9/11 he called on fellow
Muslims to condemn the attacks. In short, Ramadan is precisely the kind of
moderate voice in Islam that the United States should be courting if it
hopes to isolate al Qaeda. The barring of Ramadan reinforces the sense that
the administration cannot or will not distinguish between moderates and
extremists and is simply anti-Muslim.
What is most troubling is that none of these developments – the revelation
of prosecutorial abuse in the interest of obtaining a "win" in the war on
terrorism; the continuing failure to hold accountable those most responsible
for the torture at Abu Ghraib; and the exclusion of a moderate Muslim as too
dangerous for Americans to hear – is an isolated mistake. Rather, they are
symptoms of a deeper problem. The President thinks he can win this war by
"acting tough" and treating the rule of law and constitutional freedoms as
optional. With enough fearmongering, that attitude may win him the election.
But it will lose the war. Bush is playing right into al Qaeda's hands by
further alienating those we most need on our side.

riuscendo a ottenere 0 condanne.
Peccato che non ci dice su quanti processi :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

So Ashcroft's record is 0 for 5,000.
Giornalista idiota quanto il precedente :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

 Processare Al Qaeda: 5000 arresti, 0 condanne
Se fosse vero sarebbe un altra grave sconfitta della guerra al terrore 
promossa da Bush & Co.
Possibile che non abbiano condannato almeno qualcuno ingiustamente???
Allora gli USA sono veramente il baluardo della libertà, un posto dove i 
giudici non si fanno condizionare dal potere politico e finanziario. 
Indubbiamente una garanzia e un modello da imitare.
Dove alla fine la giustizia viene a galla e i cattivi smascherati.
La logica conseguenza sarebbe la non rielezione di Bush... ma perchè io 
non credo alla logica degli americani?

 Cosa *di cui* il coglione che ha scritto questo articolo *ne* ha le prove
In ginocchio sui ceci, De Ce'!
Namib

 Namib
Ma questo č un errore lieve rispetto a quelli che fa di solito! Volete
scrivere il "dececerario"?
-- 
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 -Stefano
#_Cazzo che gelosie!...vorresti mantenere il primato da solo!?
G.   rrrr

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L'assenza di argomentazioni :)
-Stefano

 
Idem come per il post precedente :)
-Stefano

 non credo alla logica degli americani?
#_Perche`,ovviamente, credi alla validita` di un Patriot Act senza
considerare i fallimenti dell'autore.
Giano

 complotti, credo proprio che sia quello che è accaduto agli USA)
#_Su questo non posso far altro che concordare.
Mi sei parso un po' troppo scettico sulla validita`della Legislazione USA a
proteggere la Costituzione americana , aprendo in me il dubbio della tua
accettazione del P.A.
Giano