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Titolo: Apartheid in Israele, ovvero..

"1" - Saltare direttamente a "2" se questo thread vi e' noto
Cliccando qui 
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comparira' l'intero thread archivio denominato  
"Apartheid in Israele, ovvero.."
che per brevita' potrbbe comparire anche cosi',
http://groups.google.com/groups?ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=6196c429.0209211227.7b1afa61%40posting.google.com&lr=&hl=it
solo che chi usa quella cioefeca di Outlook vede il link spezzato,
come ho gia' detto passare a Nestcape per usare Internet e' la
miglior cosa.
Ricordo anche che mentre google (ex deja news) ha mostrato
una notevole persistenza (archivio completo dal 1981) le pagine da me 
citate BBC, Haartez, Economist altri siti di interesse etc.. etc.. 
potrebbero anche sparire dalla rete.
Nei miei post da detti siti ho sempre citato brani - chi fosse 
davvero interessato all'argomento dovrebbe tenersi in archivio sul suo
HD copia  delle pagine citate (consultare il vostro manuale una
opzione
come "Save As" formato "web archive" (o simile) la pagina visionata 
dovreste averla, in quel modo anche le foto si archivano)
"2" - Ecco qui un significativo esempio di, come dire, putrefazione
istituzionale - facile sarebbe dire che proprio il fatto che gli
eventi
vengano riportati su di un giornale ebraico (e che siano denunciati da
un soldato con alta probabilita' ebreo) dimostri il contrario.
Occorre andare fino in fondo, qui siamo agli ultimi fuochi di una
societa'
in disfacimento - quattro liberali ebrei che difendono dei valori
civili
ed intorno una societa' ebraica che di detti valori ormai se ne
disinteressa.
Una sorta di cupio dissolvi (che se il latino e' sbagliato c'e' Namib
che corregge :-)).
Bye
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=274311&contrassID=2&subContrassID=4&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y
Our soldiers? Impossible
By Amira Hass
On the phone, his voice sounded very young, like that of a high school
student. But no; he's a soldier, serving somewhere in the West Bank.
He
identified himself by name, named his company, the unit, and the
location
of the base (and in a separate conversation named the base). He was
bashful, hesitant, apologetic that he might be disturbing someone, but
something was bothering him. Soldiers in his unit "beat bloody" two
Palestinians whom they had arrested earlier that day and had brought
to
the base, he said. One was an Arab caught in the field with a gun. The
second "was a detainee that the Shin Bet said did nothing and that he
should be released." That was his conclusion from what he heard from
one
of the soldiers who had heard the officers. "`He didn't do anything.
Take him
and toss him out somewhere on the road,'" said that soldier.
[...]
The soldier's report, including the name of the company, unit and the
location of the base (without naming it specifically), was given to
the IDF
Spokesman's Office 10 days ago. As of last night, the army had not
responded.

disinteressa.
Se lo dici tu :))
-Stefano

 dovreste averla, in quel modo anche le foto si archivano)
"2" - 
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=275276&contrassID=2&subContrassID=15&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y&itemNo=275276
Sprayed fields and home demolitions in 2002: A partial listing
Bedouin who have cultivated their lands for generations find
themselves under attack by the state - and their crops destroyed by
herbicides.
bel quadretto eh? Forza su, e' la sola democrazia del M.O. etc.. etc..
                         On March 4, in the early morning hours,
                         two crop-dusting planes flew over the
                         Negev Hills, spraying field crops with a
                         toxin that caused them to wither and die.
                         Ten people, most of them children,
                         inhaled the substance and required
                         medical treatment. 
                         The farmers whose crops were sprayed
                         are Bedouin who have been living in the
                         region for generations. They say damage
                         was done to thousands of dunams of
                         farmland that they have cultivated as far
                         back as they can remember. These
                         farmers are Israeli citizens who have been
                         living in unrecognized villages since the
                         establishment of the state. Israel has
                         never come to any agreement with them
                         regarding ownership rights and registry of
                         the land. 
                         The crop dusters were hired by the Israel
                         Lands Administration (ILA) and the Green
                         Patrol, who say the spraying was carried
                         out at two major sites, encompassing a
                         total of 800 dunams of land. Much of this
                         land is a military firing zone. As far as the
                         ILA is concerned, these Bedouin farmers
                         are "trespassers." In a press release the
                         following day, the ILA stated that "despite
                         court orders and warnings, the
                         trespassers refused to leave. Yesterday,
                         the ILA, in cooperation with the Green
                         Patrol, took action. The crops were
                         sprayed and destroyed with a herbicide." 
{il cut & paste disalliena tutto spero sia leggibile il post,
comunque scaricatevi e salvatevi l'originale, come folder da
mettere il file suggerisco "Unica democrazia del M.O., brillanti
esempi di"
                         FEBRUARY: Six homes demolished in
Mazra'a-Shahba; 1,000 dunams of
                         wheat fields sprayed in al-Arakib, south of
Rahat.
                         MAY: Makeshift housing of the al-Touri tribe
torn down in al-Arakib.
                         JUNE: Residential shacks of the al-Roubaydis
(6 families) tribe torn down
                         southeast of Lakiya; 3 homes demolished -
home of the Ibn Ayda family
                         near Be'er Sheva prison, home of the Abu
Kroun family in Bir Hadaj, home
                         of the Abu Asa family in Bir Aslouj. 
                         JULY: 2-story home of the Abd al-Razek
al-Sayed family demolished in
                         al-Krin, south of Houra. 
                         DECEMBER: Home of the Znoun family demolished
in Wadi al-Na'am;
                         home of Ibn Ayda demolished in June and
rebuilt, razed a second time;
                         family business of the al-Nabaris demolished
near Houra.

sprayed and destroyed with a herbicide."
Dove sta l'apartheid? :)
La corte gli ha dato torto, sono stati avvisati, e' un poligono
militare, si sono rifiutati di allontanarsi. Beh, alla fine hanno fatto
quello che dovevano fare.
Al prossimo post sul fantasioso "Apartheid" che esiste solo nella
fantasia del Pirlissima(TM) :)
-Stefano