Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Petrolio e guerra non c'entrano...

...Pero', chissa' perche, abbiamo gia' iniziato a litigare sulla
proprieta'
del petrolio Irakeno 
(L'idea che il popolo dell'Iraq c'entri qualcosa non sembra passare
per la testa
di questa gente neanche di striscio).
Liberazione... ma fatemi il piacere!
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http://www.cnn.com/2002/BUSINESS/10/30/bpoil.iraq/index.html
                       LONDON, England -- The head of BP,
                       Europe's biggest company, has warned the
                       United States not to hand Iraqi oil operations
                       over to American companies after a possible
                       war in the Gulf. 
                       John Browne says European companies should be
                       given the same opportunities as their U.S.
                       counterparts, such as ExxonMobil, to operate in
Iraq
                       if Saddam Hussein is removed as leader, The
                       Guardian reported on Wednesday. 
                       "We have let it be known that the thing we
would like
                       to make sure, if Iraq changes regime, is that
there
                       should be a level playing field for the
selection of oil
                       companies to go in there if they're needed to
do the
                       work there," Browne, BP's chief executive, told
the
                       newspaper. 
                       Browne said BP should be allowed to operate in
a post-Saddam Iraq because it was responsible for
                       discovering much of the country's oil reserves
before being thrown out in the 1970s.
                       Browne's comments are likely to carry weight
with the UK government because of BP's close ties to Prime
                       Minister Tony Blair's Labour Party. 
                       But BP, which makes 80 percent of its profit
from oil and gas production, has seen its profits come under
                       pressure this year amid the worst refining
slump in a decade.
                       In the past year, it has been hit along with
other major oil and gas companies -- such as rivals Exxon and
                       Royal Dutch/Shell Group -- by falling prices as
U.S. demand weakens.
                       On Tuesday, BP cut its forecast for oil and gas
production for the third time this year. It blamed tropical
                       storms and other technical problems for
reducing already weakened output.
                       It lowered its growth projection for 2002 to 3
percent from its last projection of between 4.5 and 5.0 percent
                       growth. The company also said third-quarter
profit declined 13 percent to $2.29 billion from $2.65 billion a year
                       earlier.

 del petrolio Irakeno
Ma se lo sanno anche i sassi che alla Russia, alla Francia e alla Germania
sono contro l'intevento in Iraq non per motivi etici e umanitari ma solo ed
unicamente perche' hanno gia' sottoscritto grassissimi contratti con Saddam
in previsione della fine dell'embargo.
Mi stupisco del tuo stupore. O forse non e' stupore....
andrea

 in previsione della fine dell'embargo.
E finalmente qualcuno l'ha capito e lo dice. Ma la maggior parte dei
frequentatori di questo NG, (ed anche molta gente sparpagliata per il mondo)
sono convinti che siano gli USA gli unici ad essere interessati al petrolio
irakeno.
Bye


 irakeno.
TUTTI sono interessati al petrolio iracheno. non credere che abbiamo il
prosciutto sugli occhi. lo sappiamo benissimo. il problema nasce quando in
nome di questi interessi si bombarda un paese. questo ci piace poco, se
permetti.
tutto qui.
saluti
claudio

  lo sappiamo
benissimo.
non metto in dubbio che tu lo sappia. ciň dimostra una maggior ampiezza di
vedute da parte tua. resta il fatto che parecchi qui non lo ammettono per
nulla.
bye

 
http://www.cnn.com/2002/BUSINESS/10/30/bpoil.iraq/index.html
Per gli scettici... (guarda caso l'OPEC e' l'obiettivo principale)
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Sunday November 3, 2002
The Observer (UK)
Carve-up of oil riches begins 
 US plans to ditch industry rivals and force end of Opec, write Peter
Beaumont and Faisal Islam 
The leader of the London-based Iraqi National Congress, Ahmed Chalabi,
has met executives of three US oil multinationals to negotiate the
carve-up of Iraq's massive oil reserves post-Saddam. 
 Disclosure of the meetings in October in Washington - confirmed by an
INC spokesman - comes as Lord Browne, the head of BP, has warned that
British oil companies have been squeezed out of post-war Iraq even
before the first shot has been fired in any US-led land invasion. 
 Confirming the meetings to US journalists, INC spokesman Zaab Sethna
said: 'The oil people are naturally nervous. We've had discussions with
them, but they're not in the habit of going around talking about them.' 
 Next month oil executives will gather at a country retreat near
Sandringham to discuss Iraq and the future of the oil market. The
conference, hosted by Sheikh Yamani, the former Oil Minister of Saudi
Arabia, will feature a former Iraqi head of military intelligence, an
ex-Minister and City financiers. Topics for discussion include the
country's oil potential, whether it can become as big a supplier as
Saudi Arabia, and whether a post-Saddam Iraq might destroy the
Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries. 
 Disclosure of talks between the oil executives and the INC - which
enjoys the support of Bush administration officials - is bound to
exacerbate friction on the UN Security Council between permanent members
and veto-holders Russia, France and China, who fear they will be
squeezed out of a post-Saddam oil industry in Iraq. 
 Although Russia, France and China have existing deals with Iraq,
Chalabi has made clear that he would reward the US for removing Saddam
with lucrative oil contracts, telling the Washington Post recently:
'American companies will have a big shot at Iraqi oil.' 
 Indeed, the issue of who gets their hands on the world's second largest
oil reserves has been a major factor driving splits in the Security
Council over a new resolution on Iraq. 
 If true, it is hardly surprising, given the size of the potential
deals. As of last month, Iraq had reportedly signed several
multi-billion-dollar deals with foreign oil companies, mainly from
China, France and Russia. 
 Among these Russia, which is owed billions of dollars by Iraq for past
arms deliveries, has the strongest interest in Iraqi oil development,
including a $3.5 billion, 23-year deal to rehabilitate oilfields,
particularly the 11-15 billion-barrel West Qurna field, located west of
Basra near the Rumaila field. 
 Since the agreement was signed in March 1997, Russia's Lukoil has
prepared a plan to install equipment with capacity to produce 100,000
barrels per day from West Qurna's Mishrif formation. 
 French interest is also intense. TotalFinaElf has been in negotiations
with Iraq on development of the Nahr Umar field. 
 Planning for Iraq's post-Saddam oil industry is being driven by a
coalition of neo-conservatives in Washington think-tanks with close
links to the Bush administration, and with INC officials who have long
enjoyed their support. Those hawks have long argued that US control of
Iraq's oil would help deliver a second objective. That is the
destruction of Opec, the oil producers' cartel, which they argue is
'evil' - that is, incompatible with American interests. 
 Larry Lindsey, President Bush's economic adviser, recently said that a
successful war on Iraq would be good for business. 
 'When there is a regime change in Iraq, you could add three to five
million barrels [per day] of production to world supply,' he said in
September. 'The successful prosecution of the war would be good for the
economy.' 
 Analysts believe that after five years Iraq could be pumping 10m
barrels of oil per day. Opec is already starting to implode, with member
nations breaking quotas in an attempt to grab market share before oil
prices fall. 
 Russian concern over a future INC-inspired carve-up of Iraq's oil to
the benefit of the US has become so intense that it recently sent a
diplomat to hold talks with INC officials. At that meeting in Washington
on 29 August the diplomat expressed concern that Russia would be kept
out of the oil markets by the US. 
 A model for the carve-up of Iraq's oil industry was presented in
September by Ariel Cohen of the right-wing Heritage Foundation, which
has close links to the Bush administration. 
 In The Future of a Post-Saddam Iraq: A Blueprint for American
Involvement, Cohen strikes a similar note to Chalabi, putting forward a
road map for the privatisation of Iraq's nationalised oil industry, and
warning that France, Russia and China were likely to find that a new
INC-led government would not honour their oil contracts. 
 Cohen's proposal would see Iraq's oil industry split up into three
large companies, along the areas of ethnic separation, with one company
in the largely Shia south, another for the Sunni region around Baghdad,
and the last in the Kurdish north.