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Titolo: Putin e' immigrato a Los Angeles  :-/

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/03/1357234&mode=thread&tid=25
 The Los Angeles Police Department is coming under increasing
criticism for violently crushing a largely peaceful immigrant right
march on Tuesday. Police with riot guns fired 240 rounds, shot teargas
and clubbed protesters and journalists gathered in MacArthur Park. At
least ten people were injured, including several journalists.
Pedro Sevcec was broadcasting live for the Spanish-language television
network Telemundo when police knocked over his monitors and lights and
hit his staff with batons. Sevcec told the Los Angeles Times a police
officer grabbed one of his cameras and threw it more than fifteen feet
to the ground. He said police pointed a riot gun at his face, hit him
with a baton and forced him out of the park.
Patricia Nazario of the public radio station KPCC was also injured. On
Wednesday, Nazario described to listeners what happened to her.
      PATRICIA NAZARIO: The cop jammed me in my ribs with his billy
club, and so I turned around square, looking at him. I had my press
pass on. I had my mic flag in my hand, my notepad and my pen. And I
said, "Why did you hit me? I'm a reporter." And he said, "Move!" And I
said, "I am moving! Why did you hit me? I'm a reporter." And he hit me
again, harder that time, and I fell.
JUAN GONZALEZ: Others assaulted included four employees of KVEA-TV
Channel 52 and a reporter for the public radio station KPCC hit by a
police baton. Christina Gonzalez, a reporter for the FOX affiliate
KTTV-TV Channel 11, suffered a bruised shoulder after she was shoved
to the ground. Her camera operator suffered a broken wrist. The
incident was caught on tape.
      KTTV NEWS: Police in riot gear moved into MacArthur Park after
some protesters started throwing rocks and plastic bottles at
officers. But this time it was impossible for the news media to be
impartial observers.
      CHRISTINA GONZALEZ: I am helping her move!
      LAPD OFFICER: Move her back away from the [inaudible], or you're
under arrest!
      CHRISTINA GONZALEZ: You can't do that! You cannot do that, and
you know that!
      LAPD OFFICER: This way! Go this way! Go this way!
      KTTV NEWS: It didn't stop with pushing and shoving. Police
officers fired rubber bullets. Protesters say they had no warning that
officers were moving in.
      CHRISTINA GONZALEZ: We are talking about an order to disperse,
which I never heard. Neither did people getting hit by rubber bullets.
That man was standing next to a colleague's network live shot, which
caught this.
      KTTV NEWS: A photographer was trying to capture all of the
action when he was targeted by police. He's knocked over, then kicked.
The officer even grabs and throws his camera. As our crew tries to
move to safety, the police officer hits cameraperson Patti Ballaz.
      CHRISTINA GONZALEZ: Here is a perspective from our colleagues at
Univision. You see us on the right side of the screen. Patti goes
down. I am trying to protect her, but they don't stop, even though I'm
telling them we are trying to get to our truck a few feet away.
AMY GOODMAN: A report by FOX affiliate KTTV Channel 11. The LAPD says
it gave orders to disperse, but several journalists and protesters
have disputed the account. The order was made only in English, not
even near the main crowd. LA Police Chief William Bratton admitted the
actions taken by the police were inappropriate. He said, "I was
disturbed at what I saw." The LAPD has launched a pair of
investigations. Several news groups say they're considering legal
action.
We go now to Los Angeles to two guests. Ernesto Arce is a
correspondent for Pacifica Radio station KPFK in Los Angeles. He was
shot with a police rubber bullet at the May Day protest. Also on the
line, Gerardo Gomez, counselor and homeless rights activist who was
shot twice at the protest.
Ernesto Arce, let's begin with you. Where were you? What did you see?
ERNESTO ARCE: Good morning, Amy. I was at the southeast corner of the
park, MacArthur Park, which I believe was at Seventh and Alvarado. I
was trying to get a sense of what was happening. I noticed that there
was a lot of commotion at that end of the park, and there was a lot of
people were running and fleeing. So I wanted to see what it was that
was happening, and I also wanted to get onto the Metrolink to get
home. But, of course, I wasn't able to do that, since there was a
heavy police presence on Alvarado Street.
It was then that I noticed that, you know, police in -- I guess it was
two different kinds of cops. There was the regular cops, and then
there was the SWAT team, who had come in, you know, very shielded
attire. They also were holding what looked like rifles. They began to
push people back from the very southeast corner of the park into the
park. They were at first using batons. But I noticed that they began
to shoot. You know, I wasn't sure what type of -- whether it was
teargas or whether they were actual real bullets or rubber pellets.
But many people were getting hit. It was at that time that people
began to just, you know, flee towards the north of the park. There was
a lot of commotion. There was a lot of confusion.
Hundreds of families were still there. Actually, at this end of the
park, the main rally, which was attended by approximately 5,000 to
10,000 people, organized by the MIWON, Multiethnic [Immigrant] Workers
coalition, was still going on at this time. It hadn't been broken up,
so there was still several hundred families even on the south side of
this park. A lot of people were running, screaming. There were
families. There were children. There's a large transient population
that lives at MacArthur Park, a lot of homeless individuals,
handicapped individuals and, of course, streetcar vendors that, you
know, sell different fares, whether ice cream or hot dogs, and they
were unable to get out on time.
And the police were relentless. They were merciless. They would hit
anyone in their path. They would shoot at anyone. Actually, a lot of
people were shot on the back, including myself. And, yeah, it was just
-- it was total chaos and, again, another example of Los Angeles
Police Department brutality.
JUAN GONZALEZ: Ernesto, from what you were able to tell, what touched
off this disproportionate response, given the fact that, for instance,
last year half a million people marched in Los Angeles in the biggest
protest in that state's history, and now with this much smaller crowd
the police reacted in this way?
ERNESTO ARCE: Well, it seems like they were trying to clear the
Alvarado Street for ongoing traffic, and there was a gathering, a
large gathering, a circle of people that were gathered around Aztec
danzantes, or pre-Columbian Mexican dancers, and they were holding a
ceremony. And police on motorcade decided to forcibly break that up,
and they drove their motorcycles through this crowd. They were
followed by police on bike and followed by more police on foot. The
police on bike and the police on foot forcibly removed the people.
I think there was some resistance, because I think, you know, the
Aztec dancers weren't able to pick up their ceremonial possessions and
some of the things that they had with them -- drums, etc. -- and they
weren't able to move quickly enough. I know several people were pushed
over onto the ground by the police, and they weren't able to make it,
you know, onto the sidewalk, as the police were demanding. So I think
there was definitely that original skirmish, which happened
approximately thirty minutes after the march concluded or arrived at
MacArthur Park at approximately 5:30.
AMY GOODMAN: In addition to Ernesto Arce, correspondent with KPFK,
Pacifica Radio station in Los Angeles, who himself was shot with a
rubber bullet, we're joined by Gerardo Gomez, a counselor and homeless
rights activist in Los Angeles, shot twice with rubber bullets by the
LAPD. Gerardo, describe exactly what happened to you, where you were,
what point of the protest, and how you got shot.
GERARDO GOMEZ: I was there around 5:40, close to the corner of Seventh
and Alvarado, and I was just a spectator just on the sidewalk by the
park, when about maybe fifteen minutes later -- I don't know -- we see
cops like pushing the people out of the park and throwing teargas and
rubber bullets.
And the first time I got shot, I would say I was probably maybe 400
feet away, and I got hit and then I started panicking and started
running. I went to the other side of the park, which was maybe on the
-- it's probably the east side of Seventh and Alvarado, like on the
soccer side. That's when like -- those are the images that's been
showing on TV, where like it's on a soccer field, and the cops just
started like decided like just harassing the people and not giving any
orders and then shooting at people.
The second time that I got shot, I was very close to the Spanish
cameraman who got hit with a bullet, and because he wasn't able to get
up, he got hit with a baton. So the second time I got hit, I was like
fifty feet away. And I rolled down, and I was trying to -- I was in
pain, but if I didn't get up on time, I was going to get hit again.
And I want to remind you that what they did yesterday is totally
inappropriate, and I know that there had been mentioned reports that
there was like -- they're trying to blame it on the young anarchists,
but in reality, the cops got caught and the fact that they got caught
and that it's in the videos, they're trying to find someone to blame
it for. So it's easy for them to say, "Oh, let's blame it on young
anarchists," and that's not right. They didn't give no warnings. They
didn't give nothing.
And what the people in LA, we've been asking -- we're asking the
resignation of Chief Bratton, because what he's been doing, it's the
same thing that he did in New York with the Million Youth March on
September 5, 1998. And it was the exact same scenario, and we saw what
he did with the homeless people in Times Square. That's exactly what
he's doing here in Skid Row, trying to press the homeless people away.
And then with his police brutality, the Suzie Pena case, the Devin
Brown case, all these actions are inappropriate. And for him to get
another five-year term, that's inappropriate.
But we're not only just asking for the resignation of Chief Bratton,
but we're asking for the City of LA to change the way the system
works, the policing system works. And we're asking for a definite
[inaudible]. In the state of Guerrero, what they do, the cops, it's
the committee who runs the cops. They realized that the police system
is so corrupt, so it's a voluntary program. So it's the community
themselves, they're controlling their own like neighborhood, and when
a family goes out to patrol the streets, the community helps the
family by providing them with beans and rice. And that's what we're
trying to let the City of LA know, that we're not just asking for the
resignation of Chief Bratton, but we're asking for them to change the
policing system, because what they did on May Day, yeah, they
instigated fear on us, but what they did, they reassured to us that we
cannot trust the police.
AMY GOODMAN: Ernesto Arce, let me ask you a question. The Police
Commissioner Bratton, formerly here in New York the police
commissioner -- the mayor, Villaraigosa, he was in El Salvador during
the May Day protest. Where is he now, and what has he said?
ERNESTO ARCE: From what I heard, the mayor was on a seven- or eight-
day tour of Latin America -- actually just two countries: Mexico and
El Salvador. He was meeting with Mexican President Felipe Calderon, as
well as Salvadoran President Tony Saca, and they're mostly there to
mention -- or mostly there to talk about business deals, as well as
what they call the transnational gang threat, which is essentially las
maras, or the gangs that have crossed from one nation to another. I
think his original response was that he thought it was unfortunate,
and he's calling for a full transparent investigation, but he has
completely supported Chief Bratton in the past, and he did offer words
of encouragement, and he said that, you know, everything was being
done to investigate the situation and that he would be returning
pretty soon.
JUAN GONZALEZ: And, Ernesto, for those folks who are not familiar with
Los Angeles, could you talk about the importance of MacArthur Park?
This has been the site over decades of many protests in the Latino
community, hasn't it?
ERNESTO ARCE: That's right. It's actually named after General
MacArthur, who I suppose was a war hero during the Korean War. It's
similar to New York's Central Park. It's probably the largest park in
Los Angeles County, or rather within Los Angeles city limits. It's --
again, I'm not exactly sure what the size is, but it's a really large
park. It's in the Westlake neighborhood, which has since maybe the
late or mid '80s has been home to predominantly Central American and
Latino immigrants. It's in a very impoverished and, you know,
neglected, underserved neighborhood. And there has been many protests
at MacArthur Park. I know some of the Filipino World War II veterans
held protests there every year, and, of course, many immigrant rights
protests are held there at MacArthur Park. Last year, one of the two
main rallies on May Day was organized there at MacArthur Park. And,
yeah, I mean, it's a site for a lot of different activities.
AMY GOODMAN: Ernesto, we only have a second, but what about those who
want to talk about what happened to them, but this was an immigrants'
rights protest, afraid perhaps of being identified, of being targeted
for being undocumented?
ERNESTO ARCE: Yeah, and I think that's the problem. You know, I think
-- we held a special program here in Los Angeles yesterday, and a lot
of people were saying --
AMY GOODMAN: Five seconds.
ERNESTO ARCE: -- that they were terrified to move forward and to
actually, you know, file reports against the police.
AMY GOODMAN: Ernesto Arce, I want to thank you very much for being
with us, as well as Gerardo Gomez.

 and clubbed protesters and journalists gathered in MacArthur Park. 
Mai tenere dimostrazioni in un posto intitolato a Douglas MacArthur. 
Hint: Bonus Army.
Umorismo nero a parte, il LAPD ha una brutta fama ma non mi pare nulla 
di molto diverso del normale modus operandi delle nostre FdO in casi 
simili. Male, ma un male "ordinario".
Palmiro Pangloss
-- 
Tarpaulin: Amarcord Cold War
http://tarpaulin.blogspot.com/

At least ten people were injured, including several journalists.
Peccato che il *COGLIONE* si sia dimenticato che 
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=local&id=5264762
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Several people, including about a dozen officers, were hurt.
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Si parla da 8 a 15 ufficiali di polizia feriti.
E del fatto che 30-40 facinorosi del "pacifico" corteo hanno lanciato
sassi e bottiglie contro i poliziotti.
-Stefano


Strano non se ne sa nulla.
Che i cinegiornali Luce fossero all'oscuro?
Comunque direi Putin e' responsabile di queste violenze, uno degli agenti e'
di origine Russa.
Tanto basta.
Saluti
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 di origine Russa.
e non ci sono pure tracce di Polonio? o sono sfuggite al fiuto del
nostro cane da porgibutt amalric?

 Cos'e', l'idiota smentito e sputtanato
disse l'idiota smentito e sputtanato del ng ( ma guardone doc di
it.sesso.annunci )