Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Due giacimenti di petrolio scoperti in Libia

TRIPOLI, Libya, Oct. 13 (UPI) -- Libya announced Thursday
the discovery of two oil fields in the south of the country with an
estimated production capacity of 252 million barrels per year.
The president of the Libyan Oil Institution Abdullah Badri
said the two oil fields were discovered in the region of Merzek, 437
miles south of Tripoli.
He said a coalition of Spanish, French and Norwegian oil
companies discovered the two fields and will get 30 percent of the
production while Libya will keep 70 percent.
Badri said oil in the new fields is a high quality of light
crude low in sulfur.
He projected the production of both fields will be around
7,650 barrels per day.

 estimated production capacity of 252 million barrels per year.
Grazie per la segnalazione.
I bombardieri sono già in volo verso Troppoli, la capitale di Libbia.
George W. Bush

 7,650 barrels per day.
o 7,6 mila (sempre che quella virgola....)?
Nel primo caso "son soldi" nel secondo "cambia poco"
Ciao! 

George W. Bush
Certo, certo... :)
*pat pat*
-Stefano

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Probabilmente la differenza sta nella produzione iniziale effettiva e 
quella teoricamente raggiungibile. Tuttavia una differenza di un 
fattore cento mi sembra esagerata.... Non sara' che 252 milioni sono le 
riserve totali di quel pozzo?
Cmq. la virgola sostituisce il punto in inglese,  quindi sono 7650 
barili al giorno.
Rimane da capire il perche' Namib ci ha presentato questa notizia. 
Questo mi conferma che una riga di spiegazione non guasta.
Am.

 Questo mi conferma che una riga di spiegazione non guasta.
Ok, per le sue intenzioni, ma credo che non si sarebbe
interessato a questa incoerenza delle quantità

 Questo mi conferma che una riga di spiegazione non guasta.
Anche quando la ragione è ovvia? La notizia NON è la scoperta di quello che
(per ora) sembra un modesto giacimento, ma che "a coalition of Spanish,
French and Norwegian oil
companies discovered the two fields and will get 30 percent of the
production while Libya will keep 70 percent". Tra le altre (infinite) cose
per cui questo governo latita, infatti, c'è anche una politica
"mediterranea" (che poi sarebbe anche una vocazione italiana). Shalom.
Namib

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Stai scherzando, vero? L'ENI la cui politica estera sostituisce spesso 
quella  italiana, ha importantissime riserve in Libia, forse le piu' 
importanti. Gheddafi avra' voluto riequilibrare la situazione.
In ogni paese produttore si tende ad evitare la presenza di un solo 
operatore estero, per ovvi motivi.
Am.

 operatore estero, per ovvi motivi.
Ma anche nessuno ha l'esclusiva. Probabilmente ci sono vari
punti i cui si cercano nuovi giacimenti e quella compagnia
sarà stata più fortunata o più brava a scegliere il posto.
Poi è anche vero che Gheddafi è strano e quindi possa aver
voluto dare le zone più probabili ad altri e non a compagnie
italiane (per Gheddafi una volta siamo i peggiori
nemici e l'altra siamo cugini [che per gli arabi è come fratelli]).
Ciao! 

 importanti. Gheddafi avra' voluto riequilibrare la situazione.
Già. Nel momento in cui la vecchia volpe "apre all'Occidente" (per usare il
linguaggio demente che ci tocca subire di questi tempi). A me sembra che
significhi: apre ai nostri concorrenti. E quindi, no, non mi sbaglio, se
penso che la "politica mediterranea" italiana ecc.
Namib

From big countries with large Muslim minorities like Britain, France,
and Germany, to smaller countries like the Netherlands and even
Switzerland, few have yet to come up with answers to highly subjective
questions: Where does orthodox Islamic discourse and doctrine become
incompatible with Western society? What sermonizing is acceptable in a
mosque? Incitement to terrorism? Criticism of the Iraq war? Moral
strictures about the place of women or homosexuals in the world?
"It's not so easy to say," says Arnoud Strijbis, an official at the
justice ministry in the Netherlands, which is mulling whether to expel
three clerics to their countries of origin. "There is always a tension
between national security on the one hand and freedom of speech and
religion on the other."
Different countries have drawn the line in different places. Many have
warned imams that they face deportation (if they're foreign) or
prosecution (if they are nationals) if they actively encourage and
incite terrorists.
France, Italy, and the Netherlands have already started deportations,
although even this measure is controversial if the imam is being sent
to a country where he may face torture. And Germany's new immigration
law, passed in January, makes it easier to deport imams who call for
terrorist attacks.
British Prime Minister Tony Blair's government, incensed at remarks
that "glorified" the July 7 London attacks presented legislation to
Parliament Wednesday that makes it an offense to speak favorably of
terrorist acts if the utterances are likely to be understood as an
inducement to terrorism. Government officials told reporters this could
include calling the 9/11 terrorists "martyrs."
Inayat Bunglawala of the Muslim Council of Britain calls the planned
legislation "misguided" and says the problem with stipulating what
preachers can and can't say is that mosques are centers for more than
just spiritual devotion. As community and faith leaders, imams are
expected to dissemble not just on the scripture. "We don't have
distinction between the mundane and the political," says Bunglawala.
"Islam brings the two together, so it's not just spiritual discussion
but day to day discourse as well.
"Many Muslims have strong feelings when it comes to questions like
Palestine and Chechnya. This whole glorification issue confuses support
for people who are engaged in resisting oppression and those engaged in
mindless acts of terrorism," he adds. The Law Society commented that
under such a law, even Mr. Blair's wife, Cherie, could be prosecuted
for remarks made in 2002 expressing understanding for the rationale
that drives young Palestinians to suicide attacks.
Several countries are also discussing other clerical rhetoric
considered unacceptable, from so-called 'hate preaching' to racism,
anti-Semitism, and sexism.
In France, for example, authorities are using existing laws against
anti-Semitism, 'hate speech,' and sexism to bear down on preachers
espousing these causes, according to Olivier Roy, an eminent scholar of
the Islamic world.
The crackdown, he says, is "largely symbolic ... It is supposed to
oblige the more radical imams to adopt a lower profile. But there is no
close monitoring of the mosques in France.
German imams who propagate hate against any part of the population can
now be deported. A Berlin preacher was ordered expelled in March for
calling Germans "useless, stinking atheists," though the move was later
blocked by the constitutional court. At least two foreign imams have
been barred from entering Germany since the law was introduced.
The German Muslim community has little against the law. "As long as
they don't involve themselves in politics, then they have enough
freedom to preach as they wish," says Burhan Kesici, spokesman for the
Berlin-based Islamic Federation.
In Switzerland, which has a much smaller Islamic community, authorities
this week prohibited an Islamic center in Geneva from hiring a Turkish
imam because of doubts over his teachings. The government is already
concerned about some of the ideas of the center's director, Hani
Ramadan, who has said that women who commit adultery should be stoned,
and that AIDS was a form of divine retribution against sinners.
"There are no specific rules," says Dominique Boillat, a Swiss
immigration official. "But there is a general rule that ... people who
have responsibility like imams have to respect our basic principles,
which are equality between men and women and order in the society and
not appealing for aggression."
"If somebody is acting like that, if they are not here, we could decide
not (to let them in). If they are already here, we can say 'you can't
live in Switzerland.' "
Bunglawala says the European moves against imams are disappointing
because it will increase anxiety in a community at a time when
governments should be doing whatever they can to bring mainstream
Muslim society on board.
"Europe has prided itself on robust debate and allowing strident
viewpoints," he says. "It seems everyone else can have those except
Muslims."
· Andreas Tzortzis in Berlin contributed to this report.

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#_eeeeehhh!!!....
TripOLIO...
bel suol d'amore...
sarai Italiana...
al rombo del cannon.
Giano

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#_Non so di preciso, ma mi pare ovvio che nei contratti di esplorazione di
certe aree sia implicito che la scoperta comporti uno sfruttamento parziale
di cio`che e`stato trovato; purtuttavia ammetto che l'ENI (o a livello
italiano di governo) nessuno ha saputo sfruttare l'occasione del recente
rinnovo delle relazioni con la Libia e accaparrarsi dal quel governo
l'esclusiva delle ricerche.
Giano

 Namib
La Terza Sponda?
Am.

 La Terza Sponda?
Non abbiamo nemmeno le altre due. L'interesse economico non è mica un
peccato.
Namib

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Ma il monopolio delle principali ricchezze dell'altro paese lo e'. Ti 
dice niente Chiquita?
Ma credo che all'ENI non abbiano bisogno di nessun monopolio.Non e' nel 
loro DNA,come si dice.
Am.

 loro DNA,come si dice.
Né nelle loro capacità.
Namib