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Titolo: Il buon senso di Abu Mazen vs. Sharon

                     *Associated Press/AP Online
JERUSALEM - Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, the leading
contender to succeed Yasser Arafat, said Friday that Israeli Prime
Minister Ariel Sharon's hope of annexing West Bank settlements and
keeping all of Jerusalem in a final peace deal is a disaster that
could torpedo efforts to restart peace talks.
Abbas' comments came as Israeli troops raided the Khan
Younis refugee camp in retaliation for recent Palestinian mortar
attacks, killing eight Palestinians, including at least five gunmen,
in the deadliest day of fighting since Arafat's death last month.
The violence and the disagreement over a peace plan were
reminders of the obstacles ahead despite the rare feeling of
optimism that has swept the region since Arafat's death, with both
Israelis and Palestinians calling for new negotiations to end their
conflict.
Israeli officials have promised to help ensure that
Palestinian elections go smoothly, and Palestinian leaders have been
working to persuade militants to halt attacks on Israel.
Israeli officials had also expressed support for a possible
Middle East conference in Britain next year. But an Israeli official
said Friday that Israel did not plan to attend because the meeting
would deal with Palestinian issues, including internal reform and
donor funding.
In a major policy speech Thursday, Sharon said his plan to
withdraw from Gaza next year, coupled with Arafat's Nov. 11 death,
could turn 2005 into a "year of great opportunity." He
held out the prospect of an independent state for the Palestinians
if they stop attacks.
But Sharon also reiterated his determination to hold onto
some large West Bank settlements and all of Jerusalem in a final
peace deal. The Palestinians want all the West Bank, Gaza and East
Jerusalem for a future state.
In a telephone interview from the Persian Gulf state of
Qatar, Abbas called Sharon's comments a "disaster."
"If (Sharon) puts these conditions on the table and
says that he wants to negotiate on this basis, then I think he's
closing all the doors to peace," Abbas said.
He said Israel must honor the internationally backed
"road map" peace plan, which called for the creation of a
Palestinian state next year. The plan stalled soon after it was
signed in 2003 with neither side meeting its initial commitments.
"If the Israelis are ready to sit with us to negotiate
implementing the road map, without any conditions, then we are ready
to sit with them, because what we want is to implement the road
map," Abbas said. "We will implement our part, and they
should implement their part."
Abbas also called on President Bush to pull back from his
statement in April endorsing Israel's plan to hold onto parts of the
West Bank in a final peace settlement and ruling out Palestinian
refugees returning to Israel.
In recent days, Abbas has criticized the 4-year-old armed
uprising against Israel, but he has not pulled back from the key
Palestinian demand for a full Israeli withdrawal from lands it
captured in the 1967 Mideast war.
Regardless, Abbas, is seen as the candidate favored by
Israel and the United States in the Jan. 9 elections to succeed
Arafat.
An American monitoring team, including former President
Jimmy Carter, will travel to the region to observe the vote. The
U.S. team will join a European Union observer mission.
In an effort to promote calm before the election, Israel has
said it would not carry out raids against Palestinians unless it is
attacked or about to be attacked.
On Friday, the army moved into the Khan Younis refugee camp
in southern Gaza, following a week of mortar barrages and rocket
attacks on Israeli targets that killed a Thai worker in a Jewish
settlement and injured 17 other people, including 11 soldiers.
"We entered (the camp) to distance the threat and catch
those who are shooting," said the deputy commander of Gaza's
Southern Brigade, Lt. Col. Dotan Razili.
Bulldozers and tanks knocked down buildings in the camp.
Dozens of civilians took refuge in a hospital, camping in the
hallways and the lobby as an Israeli tank sat outside. Other
families stayed with relatives, or spent the night at a stadium.
On Friday night, an Israeli aircraft attacked a group of
militants planting an explosive device, the army said. The attack
killed one Hamas militant and wounded three other people,
Palestinian officials said.
The fighting throughout the day killed eight Palestinians,
including at least five militants, according to medical officials.
At least 27 others were wounded, including an ambulance driver and
five children under age 16, hospital officials said.
One Israeli soldier was wounded, the army said.
A weapons smuggling tunnel near Gaza's border with Egypt
collapsed late Thursday, trapping six Palestinians, witnesses and
officials said. Military officials said Palestinians told the army
five bodies had been removed from the tunnel. Palestinian officials
denied the report.
Also Friday, Labor Party leader Shimon Peres agreed to bring
his party into Sharon's minority coalition in the coming days, a
move that would shore up the government. Final, minor details
outlining the coalition agreement will be worked out between
negotiators in a meeting Saturday, Peres spokesman Yoram Dori said.
Sharon is expected to bring the coalition agreement for a
vote in parliament Monday, Israeli media reported.

 conflict.
CUT
Be' finalmente stiamo arrivando al dunque. Non a caso nel NG si sente un 
silenzio di tomba...
Am.

 
Sincerament non vedo alcun "buon senso" nelle parole di Abu Mazen.
Riguardo alle colonie nella West Bank, tutti i piani di pace qui
presentati fino ad ora prevedevano che una parte di tali colonie
restassero come territorio israeliano, in cambio di altro territorio di
Israele.
Non vedo quindi novita' rispetto al passato a questo riguardo.
Quanto a Gerusalemme, deve andare ad uno stato solo (o a nessuno stato).
Trasformare Gerusalemme in una Berlino con un muro che la divide sarebbe
quantomeno orripilante.
-Stefano

 silenzio di tomba...
In Gran Bretagna si scommette su tutto, scommettiamo che anche questo
(100°?) processo di pace rimarrà tale?
-- 
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 quantomeno orripilante.
Ma nel 2000 a Camp David si discusse (con un certo profitto) anche di
numerose soluzioni intermedie, onde rassicurare entrambi gli schieramenti
dell'estremismo religioso, senza con ciò dividere "fisicamente" la città, ed
accordano inoltre possibilità ad un'amministrazione in qualche modo
congiunta. E' un problema complesso, ulteriormente aggravato dalla gestione
del sottosuolo archeologico, ma (IMHO) non è risolvibile con un aut aut, che
minerebbe la pacificazione della regione. In ogni caso, al negoziato,
stavolta, si dovrebbe andare (da ambo le parti, è ovvio) "con le mani
pulite": ogni pre-condizione al negoziato è un ostacolo al negoziato stesso.
Bye.
Namib

ogni pre-condizione al negoziato č un ostacolo al negoziato stesso.
E di pre-condizioni non ne sono state poste da nessuno (visto che non si
sono nemmeno mai incontrati).
-Stefano