Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Israel, Hamas reach deal: Schalit to finally return home

Afferma Netanyahu:  "I nostri saggi insegnano che chi salva una vita 
ebraica, è come se avessero salvato un intero mondo.".  Non una vita 
umana qualsiasi: una vita ebraica.
Con questa idea in testa, che poi è quella al cuore dell'ideologia 
"sionista", si capisce che Netanyahu ritenga congruo uno scambio di 1 a 
1000.  Anzi, una vita ebraica contro mille vite palestinesi 
probabilmente lo percepisce come un affarone.
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Israel, Hamas reach deal: Schalit to finally return home
By HERB KEINON AND YAAKOV KATZ
10/11/2011 23:50
Exactly 1,934 days after Hamas kidnapped Gilad Schalit near Kerem Shalom 
on the border with Gaza, the cabinet met in a dramatic meeting Tuesday 
night to approve a deal for his release.
"The Jewish people is a special people, responsible for one another," 
Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said at the opening of the cabinet 
meeting. "Our sages teach that those who save one Jewish life, it's is 
as if they have saved an entire world.  Today I am bringing a proposal 
for the saving of Gilad Schalit in order to bring him back, finally, 
after five years, to his home, to Israel."
The cabinet was expected to approve the deal in a vote most likely to 
take place after midnight on Tuesday. Netanyahu already convened his 
inner cabinet of eight ministers on Sunday, representing all his major 
coalition partners, and received their approval.
The cabinet vote will bring close to conclusion a saga that tortured the 
Schalit family --  and the country --  for more than five years, and 
which made the kidnapped soldier, now 25, a household name in large 
parts of the world.
In return for Schalit, Israel will release 1,000 prisoners, some 400 of 
them prisoners serving long sentences for some of the worst terrorist 
atrocities in the country's history.
In the first stage, 450 prisoners will be released. Of those, Israel 
agreed to release 96 prisoners to the West Bank and 14 to east 
Jerusalem. Another 203 from the West Bank will be deported to Gaza and 
overseas. Further, 131 prisoners from Gaza will be released back to Gaza.
Schalit will then be sent to Israel, and another 550 prisoners – 
including women and minors – will be released.
Six Israeli Arabs will be released to their homes.
Jailed terrorists Marwan Barghouti , Ibraim Hamed , Ahmed Sa'adat and 
Abdullah Barghouti will not be released as part of the deal.
Netanyahu said that the deal, which has been in the works for weeks, was 
initiated in Cairo on Thursday, and today received the final approval.
The framework for this deal has been on the table for years, but was 
rejected as Israel demanded that the terrorists with blood on their 
hands be deported to Gaza or abroad, and Hamas demanded that all the 
names they submitted be on the list.
In the final analysis, both sides showed flexibility, with Israel 
agreeing to let hundreds, but not all, of the released terrorist remain 
in the West Bank, and Hamas dropped some of the names on its list.
Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) head Yoram Cohen, who earlier this 
year replaced Yuval Diskin, who was adamantly opposed to letting the 
prisoners return to the West bank,  said that the Shin Bet would be able 
to deal with those returning to the West bank.
Cohen, as well as the heads of the Mossad and the IDF all expressed 
support for the prisoner exchange deal at the cabinet meeting.
Netanyahu told the cabinet that the negotiations were restarted in 
recent weeks through Egyptian mediation.  "There exists a built-in 
tension between the desire to bring a kidnapped soldier or citizen home, 
and the need to preserve the security of Israeli citizens," he said, 
adding that the current  agreement expressed the right balance between 
those considerations.
"This is a difficult decision," he said. "My heart is with the families 
of the terror victims. I understand their suffering, and their distress, 
because I am one of them. But leadership is judged in moments like this 
by the ability to make difficult, but correct, decisions."
Netanyahu said that with all the changes taking place in the region, "I 
don't know if in the near future we would be able to reach a better 
agreement or an agreement at all. It might be that the window of 
opportunity would have been closed, and we would not have been able to 
return him at all."
Netanyahu thanked the Egyptian government as well as German Chancellor 
Angela Merkel and the German mediator who played an important role in 
securing the deal.
Schalit negotiator David Meidan on Tuesday provided some details of 
efforts to reach a deal with Hamas to release Schalit, saying Egypt was 
"very helpful" in facilitating the proposed exchange.
"There were six rounds of talks...we did this over several months in 
complete secrecy and we managed to hold them under the radar," Meidan 
said at the cabinet meeting.
"In the last round, the Shin Bet came in and we initialed a deal without 
names last week," Meidan satated. "
He added that the final marathon round of talks "took 24 hours long 
without sleep," beginning Monday at 9 a.m. and ending Tuesday at 8 a.m.
Netanyahu said he invited Schalit's father, Noam, to his home in the 
morning to convey the news, and also spoke by phone to Schalit's mother 
and grandfather. "I said to them that I am fulfilling my promise and I 
am returning to them their son and grandson. I am happy to have been 
able to fulfill the goal of redeeming captives, and if all goes well, 
Gilad will return to Israel in the coming days to his family and people."
http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?ID=241424&R=R1
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Sostieni Rete ECO
http://rete-eco.it/it/sostienici.html

 1000.  
Sono quelli di Hamas che ritengono congruo lo scambio, cretino. Sono 
loro a porre le condizioni.

Il 12/10/11 00.31, Der Bildungsphilister ha scritto:
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Oltretutto è un fatto che ricorre negli scambi tra Israele e i suoi 
nemici per ragioni eminentemente "di mercato": Israele di solito prende, 
e detiene, molti più prigionieri.
PP

 ebraica, è come se avessero salvato un intero mondo.".
azz. Maledetti saggi sionisti (ma non era una ideologia recente?)

 "sionista"
 
No.
Ti è di nuovo caduta la mascherina.
 
BTW, quanto si sta rodendo il pirla antisemita per il salvataggiondi una
vita ebraica?
 
 
-- 
recoil is insignificant when there is a tiger on the head of your elephant

 wrote:
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Rilasciare decine di assassini in cambio della vita di un soldato tenuto
ostaggio dal nemico è una decisione dura, che dà sollievo alla famiglia di
un giovane vivo mentre crea un ulteriore trauma nelle famiglie di tanti
altri uomini e donne, ragazzi e ragazze, ammazzati dai killer palestinesi. 
Non solo, rischia di rimettere in circolo assassini esperti, che possono
contribuire a ulteriori lutti.
Non penso che sia una decisione che si potrebbe prendere in molti altri
stati che non siano Israele. Ma sono felice che Israele l'abbia presa,
accettando con qualche trattativa il ricatto dei criminali di Hamas.
Anche dopo decenni di guerra contro un nemico che ammazza indiscrimatamente
civili e che odia in modo biologico, religioso e razziale, non solo
politico, Israele continua ad essere un paese che ama la propria vita molto
più della morte altrui. E anche un paese fiducioso di riuscire a gestire un
nemico che continua a pensarla in modo assolutamente opposto.
Complimenti a Nethanyahu per aver raggiunto con flessibilità e abilità
negoziale (sia con la propria parte che col nemico) questo grandissimo
risultato.
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 negoziale
L'ha data vinta ad Hamas su tutta la linea, e ha perso pure 5 anni per
farlo. Effettivamente per piegarsi a 90 gradi ci vuole flessibilità

 L'ha data vinta ad Hamas su tutta la linea
 
In realtà no.
Ma anche se fosse, sarebbe stato incredibilmente abile a farlo accettare
all'interno.
 
Non gode di buona stampa in Europa. Ma imho è uno dei migliori leader di
Israele dagli anni '80 in poi. Forse per questo non gode di buona stampa.
 
 
-- 
Io non gufo l'Inter. Le spacco le corna.

 L'ha data vinta ad Hamas su tutta la linea,
 
no.
 
 
 
 

 In realtà no.
cosa chiedeva in più? Io ricordo 1000 prigionieri tra cui Barghouti,
dall'inizio

 Israele dagli anni '80 in poi. Forse per questo non gode di buona stampa.
 
a proposito, non ci sono ancora notizie sul sito di Sinistra per
Israele.
 

 cosa chiedeva in più? 
Per saperlo, ti sarebbe bastato leggere l'articolo
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 L'ha data vinta ad Hamas su tutta la linea,
No, cretino
All of the prisoners released will sign a document in which they
commit to refrain from activity against the State of Israel, and
anyone who strays will be hunted down.

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E c'è una questione di lista
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ROTFL