Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: febo, te le ricordi le due gemelle?

http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/07/17/071711-news-nazi-twins-1-6/
 

 
http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/07/17/071711-news-nazi-twins-1-6/
 
 
yawn: la notizia č dell'anno scorso, le gemelle hanno smesso di suonare 
quel poco che suonavano da molto prima, sono state semplicemente lo 
scoop anti-antisemita di un quadrimestre del 2005. Prima chi c'era, 
forse qualche caporale novantasettene scovato in qualche ospizio bavarese?
 
 
 
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 yawn: la notizia è dell'anno scorso, le gemelle hanno smesso di suonare
 
Sembra ti stia sfuggendo il punto principale, forse per le notorie
difficoltà esegetiche. Le due gemelle, ora sono diventate "pretty
liberal", apprezzano la società multiculturale, eseguono in pubblico
brani di Bob Dylan consapevoli che si tratta di un ebreo e si sono
lasciate alle spalle l'ambiente di pericolosi razzisti in cui sono
cresciute, e per il quale non sembrano avere adesso molta stima (non
deve averla presa bene per esempio la sorellastra Dresden, che nome
del cazzo),
È comprensibile il tuo tentativo di passare la vicenda sotto silenzio,
ma anche il lettore meno smaliziato sa che si tratta di una
conversione, e per di più doppia.
Curiosamente non sono due malate di mente.
 
 
 

 Curiosamente non sono due malate di mente.
 
Hanno intrapreso un arduo programma di studi? Sono stati riconosciuti 
anche da due istruttori di krav maga? Hanno subito volontariamente 
mutilazioni ai genitali?  Sono state lasciate fuori sotto la pioggia 
aprilina (april is the cruelest month) davanti alle porte del Pitigliani 
da una comunità burocratico-nordcoreana ? Hanno qualcuno che nel 2000 ha 
scritto qualcosa su dei libri di preghiera?
 
Non mi sembra. C'è solo un articolo del 2011 del The Daily.
 
 
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 Gentile or Jew
 
quando si dice la fissazione.
 

 Hanno intrapreso un arduo programma di studi?
 
Lui, si'
http://www.jewishjournal.com/religion/article/from_neo-nazi_skinhead_to_black-hatted_jew_the_journey_of_pawel_bramson_201
 
 
Fifteen years ago, Pawel Bramson was a skinhead shouting anti-Semitic
and racist slogans during soccer matches. He hated Jews and blacks –
simply, he says, because you need someone to blame for what’s wrong in
the world.
 
These days he keeps kosher, wears the long beard and black hat typical
of some Orthodox Jews, and assists Poland’s chief rabbi, Michael
Schudrich.
 
Bramson’s transformation—documented in the film “The Moon Is Jewish,”
which recently received the Warsaw Phoenix Award at the Jewish Motifs
International Film Festival for the best film showing modern Jewish
life in Poland —began when he was 22.
 
Co-written by Bramson and Michal Tkaczynski, the documentary takes its
title from a Marcin Swietlicki song that tells of a fabricated Jewish
plot to claim that everything—the pillow, the moon—is Jewish.
 
“The script for this film was written by life,” says Bramson, 36, who
discusses his life, past and present, in the documentary.
 
“The Moon Is Jewish,” which has been screened at several festivals in
the United States, “was like a confession on which I say some bad
things I did in my life,” he says. “This film can be treated a bit
like my public confession, a self-critical lynching.”
 
As a young man, Bramson wasn’t particularly interested in his roots,
having had no reason to think his family had hidden anything from him.
 
“I was an Aryan, maybe not the blond one, but for sure not Jewish,” he
says. As far as he knew, he was the son of practicing Catholics. “The
thought of being Jewish was not even on my mind.”
 
Not until his wife, Aleksandra, began researching her own roots.
 
“She started looking for her ancestors in the Jewish Historical
Institute in Warsaw. She was checking her roots and at the same time
she checked mine,” Bramson says. “When she found out, she came home
and showed me the documents” indicating that both their families had
been Jewish.
 
Bramson sought verification from his parents. The information his wife
had found was true, they told him. His maternal grandparents had been
Jewish.
 
The young man began to turn his life around, saying that he realized
he wasn’t the person he had thought.
 
Like other young Poles who have discovered their Jewish roots, Bramson
began going to the Jewish Historical Institute, to synagogue, speaking
with a rabbi to learn as much as possible about Judaism. He became
increasingly involved in the life of Warsaw’s Jewish community.
 
“My father was delighted when I became Jewish because he always wanted
me to be religious, no matter in which religion,” Bramson says.
 
Now he is a mashgiach, a kosher supervisor, and an assistant to
Schudrich.  The chief rabbi calls him a “unique human being.”
 
“Every day he tries to improve himself as a better human bring using
his religion, Judaism, as a way to become closer to God and kinder to
human beings,” Schudrich says.
 
Przemyslaw Szpilman, who manages the Jewish cemetery in Warsaw, met
Bramson 11 years ago at the city’s Nozyk Synagogue.
 
“The change in Pawel’s life is huge,” Szpilman says. “It took him many
years to become such person he is today. When we met for the first
time in the synagogue, he wasn’t sure it is his way of life.”
 
But Bramson’s wife was going to synagogue daily, and he decided to
join her, Szpilman says.
 
“Like every other Jew here, Pawel is important for Jewish community,”
he says. “Every new person is well welcome here.”
 
Michael Traison, an American lawyer who is involved in numerous
projects commemorating Jewish history and culture in Poland, has known
Bramson for years.
 
“Pawel Bramson has been the subject of numerous news reports around
the world for several years. Each time his story appears it seems
comparable to a news bulletin that life has been discovered on Mars,”
Traison says. “Indeed, for much of the Jewish world, believing that
all Jewish life in Poland was extinguished almost several decades ago,
Poland is Mars and Jewish life is as unlikely as finding a thriving
city on a remote planet circling a distant star.”
 
The symbolism of Bramson’s story, he says, “resonates much like the
rebirth of Israel itself.”
 
There was a time, Bramson acknowledges, that he used to shout anti-
Semitic chants at soccer games of his beloved Legia Warsaw club—much
like the 18 Legia fans who were charged in March with inciting
religious hatred for screaming slogans at fans of Widzew Lodz such as
“Hamas, Hamas, Juden auf den Gas” (“Hamas, Hamas, Jews to the gas”).
Several have admitted their guilt.
 
Despite the club’s rowdy and, in some cases, racist fans, Bramson
stands with Legia.
 
“Yesterday I met a friend with whom I did some crazy things when we
were younger,” he says. “We talked about our memories and the fact
that they are not the best. Now I see these things in a different
way.”
 
His son, who attends the Talmudical Academy of Baltimore, is also a
Legia fan. “I can’t even imagine he couldn’t be. It’s something that
must be given in our family from generation to generation,” Bramson
says with a laugh.
 
“When he arrives to Poland and there’s soccer, he goes to the match.
Just not on Saturday.”
 
Asked how difficult it was to change his former life to the one he
lives today, Bramson says the evolution isn’t over.
 
“I’m still changing my life, and I think I will never stop,” he says.
“It’s not so simple.”