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Titolo: Guantanamo: torturato perche' leggeva il Corano

Indovinate che  bell'effetto avra' questa notizia sugli islamici di 
mezzo mondo?
Da notare che nei casi citati non si sa nemmeno se gli internati fossero 
dei terroristi,perche' l'avvocato e' fatto divieto citare le loro 
testimonianze
Che bel modo di favorire la crescita di democrazie islamiche...
Am.
 
Guantanamo Briton 'in handcuff torture' 
 David Rose on the allegation that a British detainee was suspended by 
his wrists as punishment for reciting the Koran while in US military 
custody 
  Sunday January 2, 2005
The Observer 
  A British detainee at Guantanamo Bay has told his lawyer he was 
tortured using the 'strappado', a technique common in Latin American 
dictatorships in which a prisoner is left suspended from a bar with 
handcuffs until they cut deeply into his wrists.
 The reason, the prisoner says, was that he was caught reciting the 
Koran at a time when talking was banned.
 He says he has also been repeatedly shaved against his will. In one 
such incident, a guard told him: 'This is the part that really gets to 
you Muslims, isn't it?'
 The strappado allegation was one among many made about treatment at 
both Guantanamo and the US base at Bagram in Afghanistan made to the 
British lawyer Clive Stafford Smith when he visited his clients Moazzam 
Begg and Richard Belmar at the Cuban prison six weeks ago, having tried 
for the previous 14 months to obtain the necessary security clearance.
 But it is clear the disturbing claim is only the tip of the iceberg. 
Under the rules the United States military has imposed for defence 
lawyers who visit Guantanamo, Stafford Smith has not been allowed to 
keep his notes of meetings with prisoners, and will not be able to read 
them again until they have been examined and de-classified by a 
government censor.
 He cannot disclose in public anything the men have told him until it 
too has been been de-classified, on pain of likely imprisonment in the 
US.
 Stafford Smith has drawn up a 30-page report on the tortures which Begg 
and Belmar say they have endured, and sent it as an annexe with a letter 
to the Prime Minister which Downing Street received shortly before 
Christmas. For the time being - possibly forever - the report cannot be 
published, because the Americans claim that the torture allegations 
amount to descriptions of classified interrogation methods.
However, Stafford Smith's letter to Tony Blair - which has been 
declassified - says that on his visit to the Guantanamo prisoners, he 
heard 'credible and consistent evidence that both men have been savagely 
tortured at the hands of the United States' with Begg having suffered 
not only physical but 'sexual abuse' which has had 'mental health 
consequences'.
 Thousands of documents obtained last month under the US Freedom of 
Information Act by the American Civil Liberties Union support the claims 
of torture at Guantanamo, which has apparently continued long after the 
publication last April of photographs of detainees being abused at the 
US-run Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. They include memos and emails to 
superiors by FBI and Defense Intelligence Agency officers, who say they 
were appalled by the methods being used by the young military 
interrogators at Guantanamo.
 According to the memos, the abuse was 'systematic', with frequent 
beatings, chokings, and sleep deprivation for days on end. Religious 
humiliation was also routine, with one agent reporting a case in which a 
prisoner was wrapped in an Israeli flag.
 'On a couple of occasions I entered interview rooms to find a detainee 
chained hand and foot in a foetal position to the floor, with no chair, 
food or water,' an anonymous FBI agent wrote on 2 August. 'Most times 
they had urinated or defecated on themselves, and had been left there 
for 18 to 24 hours or more.'
 Reports of identical treatment were first published by The Observer 
last March, in interviews with three British detainees who had been 
released - Shafiq Rasul, Asif Iqbal and Rhuhel Ahmed. They were then 
strenuously denied by the Pentagon. But according to another FBI memo 
dated 10 May, when an agent asked Guantanamo's former commander, Major 
General Geoffrey Miller, about techniques the FBI regarded as illegal, 
he was told that the interrogators 'had their marching orders from the 
Sec[retary] Def[ense]', Donald Rumsfeld. General Miller told the US 
Congress under oath that although Rumsfeld had authorised the use of 
dogs to intimidate prisoners at Guantanamo, this had never happened. 
According to the memos, this was inaccurate.
 Stafford Smith asks Blair in his letter 'to approach the plight of my 
clients with renewed vigour'. Asked by The Observer whether he planned 
to do this last week, a Downing Street spokesman declined to comment.
 In a second letter, to the Foreign Office minister Baroness Symons, 
Stafford Smith suggests that Britain's complicity in abusive techniques 
at both Guantanamo and Afghanistan, where Begg and Belmar were held 
before being taken to Cuba, is wider than previously thought.
 Begg and Belmar, he writes, were both questioned by an MI5 officer who 
gave his name as 'Andrew', while they were being abused by Americans 
both in Afghanistan and Guantanamo. According to the letter, 'he was the 
one who told Mr Begg that the more Mr Begg (falsely) said he was guilty 
of something, the quicker he would get home. Andrew was also the one who 
said that he would not comply with both of my clients' requests for 
consular notification, as well as Mr Begg's requests to learn whether 
his pregnant wife, Sally, and their three children were safe in 
Pakistan.' Stafford Smith is asking for Andrew's full name and access to 
him, to assist his client's defence.
 Having fled Afghanistan where he had been trying to set up a school 
before the war against the Taliban began in October 2001, Begg was 
abducted by American agents from the house the family was renting in 
Islamabad.
 Belmar was captured after attending a religious school for a few weeks 
before the 11 September terrorist attacks. An FBI source who personally 
questioned him before he was sent to Guantanamo has told The Observer he 
recommended his immediate release because he had 'no involvement' with 
terrorism, but was overruled by MI5.
 Stafford Smith says in his letter to Baroness Symons that Begg made a 
false written confession after being tortured in February 2003, when two 
agents who had abused him at Bagram - where Begg witnessed the deaths of 
two prisoners officially classed as homicide - came to Guantanamo. But 
neither he nor Stafford Smith have been allowed to see this statement, 
which apparently forms the main grounds for his continued incarceration. 
Stafford Smith asks the Foreign Office for help in obtaining a copy, and 
asks: 'What kind of civilised legal system does not allow the suspect to 
see his own statements? How can the prisoner's statement be said to be 
classified information when, if it were true, the prisoner would already 
know it?'
 Last night the Foreign Office said 'we are trying to do our utmost' for 
the four British detainees while 'we take every allegation of torture 
seriously'. The request for information about the MI5 man would be 
considered.
 Azmatt Begg, Moazzam's father, said he had given up hope the British 
government would intervene in a meaningful way to help his son. 'They 
are not protecting their own citizens, but merely falling in with 
whatever the Americans want to do.'

 mezzo mondo?
Le stronzate fanno ben poco effetto.
-Stefano

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#_Fai poco effetto oramai!
G.

 #_Fai poco effetto oramai!
...disse il bue all'asino... :)
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#_Infatti it.fan.culo ci sta meglio con quell'effetto che fai.
G.


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La grande democrazia gia' da tempo puzza di dittatura.
Oramai dispone di nuovi lagher che affianca a quelli riservati agli indiani
d'america che ha sterminato, sottraendogli le terre, nel numero di 12-15
milioni.
Chiunque continui a chiudere gli occhi e a turarsi il naso davanti alla
scalata imperiale con metodi criminali attuata dagli USA portera' nel tempo
la macchia di ipocrita o vigliacco.
Esattamente come quelli che non si opposero alla ascesa fascista e nazista.
Ricordo che milioni di morti furono il risultato di tale vigliaccheria
intelettuale.
Esistono punti di non ritorno passati i quali una dittatura abbandona ogni
decenza e si rivela per quello che e' tronfia della sua supposta
onnipotenza.
I grandi fratelli dello skull and bones stanno lavorando, oramai sono
convinti di controllare il mondo intero, chi li fermera' ?
Uno Tsunami ? le vie del signore sono infinite.
Saluti Cad Ali'
--
Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini
(July 29, 1883 - April 28, 1945) ruled Italy
 as a dictator from 1922 to 1943.
 He created a fascist state through the
use of propaganda; through total control
 of the media, he disassembled the
 existing democratic government system.
 His biggest political mistake was to enter
 World War II on the side of Nazi
Germany; this made his regime a target
 for Allied attacks and ultimately led to his
             downfall and death.