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Titolo: La condizione attuale del Kossovo

Salve a tutti, qualcuno può cortesemente illustrarmi la situazione
attuale del Kossovo? Dopo la dichiarazione di indipendenza cosa è
successo? Ora a livello internazionale come viene considerato, come
stato indipendente, oppure no?
Scusate, ma ultimamente se ne parla poco e non sono più aggiornata a
riguardo.
Vi ringrazio Un saluto a tutti
Elisa

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Questo era un sito che fino a qualche anno fa decantava la liberazione del
Kossovo.
Prova ad aprirlo, adesso vende dentifricio, in inglese.
Ovvero aperto usato e adesso dedito al commercio, in inglese.
http://www.notizie-est.com/
Questi raccontavano balle preconfezionate.
Invece succedeva questo.
Driven From Kosovo!
Interview with &#268;edomir Prlin&#269;evi&#263;, Director of Archives of
Kosovo Province (Serbia), President of the Jewish Community in Priština,
capital of Kosovo
Interviewers: Jared Israel, Editor Emperor’s Clothes
Nancy Gust
[Posted 9 September 1999 * Re-posted with an introduction by Jared Israel,
March 6, 2008]
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Table of Contents
* “An Act of Bravery:
The Director of Archives Leaves a Record”
by Jared Israel
March 6, 2008
* “Driven from Kosovo, Part I”
Interview with &#268;edomir Prlin&#269;evi&#263;
September 1, 1999
* “Driven from Kosovo, Part II”
Interview with &#268;edomir Prlin&#269;evi&#263;
September 2, 1999
[Note: For mailing purposes we have posted this article without diacritics
(accents) at 
http://tenc.net/interviews/ceda-mail.htm
 ]
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An Act of Bravery:
The Director of Archives Leaves a Record
by Jared Israel
[March 6, 2008]
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Among the many questions generally overlooked in current media discussions
of Kosovo’s so-called independence [1] are three concerning the Kosovo
Liberation Army (KLA) leaders, who now head Kosovo’s so-called government:
A) Are they rebels-turned-statesmen or racist killers in suits?
B) Are they representatives of a progressive independence movement or heirs
to World War II Nazis, dug up, reassembled and given a liberal gloss by
outside powers?
C) Did they have anything to do with the flight from Kosovo of approximately
300,000 Serbs and other Yugoslav loyalists, after NATO placed these KLA
‘independence fighters’ in power in the beginning of the summer of 1999?
These questions are answered in interviews Emperor's Clothes published in
September 1999 and December 2000 with &#268;edomir Prlin&#269;evi&#263;, who
was President of the Jewish Community and Director of Archives in Priština
(Prishtina), Kosovo until he was driven from that city.
The first interview, conducted in two parts (posted below), challenges the
media claim that NATO’s takeover of Kosovo was a victory for ethnic
tolerance and human rights, and that the KLA was a progressive movement for
‘Kosovar’ self-determination, independent of NATO.
Even the Milosevic government, wishing to depict the 1999 war as ending in
Yugoslav victory, avoided discussing the reign of terror against Serbs and
other Yugoslav loyalists, launched when NATO marched into Kosovo.
&#268;edomir Prlin&#269;evi&#263;, a scholarly archivist, was the first to
communicate the immense scale of the racist terror following NATO's
invasion.
For Mr. Prlin&#269;evi&#263;, granting this interview was an act of bravery.
In March 1999, before NATO began bombing Serbia, Mr. Prlin&#269;evi&#263;,
then 61, was chief archivist of Kosovo. Three months later he and his family
were refugees in Belgrade. As he says, they didn’t have time to pack a
suitcase before they had to run for their lives.
The interview was conducted two months after Mr. Prlin&#269;evi&#263;
arrived in Belgrade, when the shock was still fresh. He wanted the world to
know what had happened, although this involved serious risk. For one thing,
he had been president of the Jewish Community in Priština; it was his
responsibility to avoid any act that would prevent Jews from returning to
that city or endanger Jews elsewhere in Kosovo.
It was my impression that, torn between honesty and hope, Mr.
Prlin&#269;evi&#263; held back, not saying all he knew lest he infuriate the
new rulers of Kosovo. Even as he told a misinformed world about NATO’s
actions, which made it clear that the KLA terrorists were NATO proxies, he
held onto the hope that the KLA and its NATO/UN supervisors might begin to
act reasonable, that things might somehow normalize. Speaking of the
residents of Milana, the neighborhood where he had lived, he told me, “Many
of the people who lived there are of prominent status and social position in
the city.” Notice that he used the present tense: “are of prominent status.”
In fact, at the time, they were no longer.
In November 1999, two months after the interview, I saw Mr.
Prlin&#269;evi&#263; in Amsterdam, where we both had been invited to address
a meeting about the reign of terror in NATO/UN occupied Kosovo. He was still
devastated and he was still hoping. At the meeting, when he tried to speak
about his experiences, he broke down in tears. Talking to me the next day,
he commented that the new ‘authorities’ would of course carefully maintain
the archives in Priština. I said that, regrettably, I didn’t think so. I
believed the KLA would destroy those archives. He was shocked. How could
they do that? Surely they would need records – everyone needed records of
births and deaths and marriages and ownership, and so on. Didn't they?
I said: “Cedda, the KLA just drove perhaps 300,000 people into homelessness
and stole all their property including homes, farms, businesses. The last
thing they want is to preserve records of ownership.”
In this first interview, I think it required an intense internal struggle
between emotion (his hesitation about antagonizing the KLA and NATO) and
principle (his desire to tell the truth) for Mr. Prlin&#269;evi&#263; to be
able to say, in Part I, that the stories of Yugoslav army atrocities were
lies and, in Part II, that the terrorists marched into Priština side by side
with NATO. Because of his courage we have direct testimony from the Director
of Archives of Kosovo. The legal records he worked on all his adult life
are, I am afraid, no more. But this record remains.
In the second interview, a year later, &#268;edomir Prlin&#269;evi&#263; was
like a different man, in part because his state of shock had receded and in
part because of something he saw in Amsterdam.
Being Jewish, Mr. Prlin&#269;evi&#263; wanted to visit the Anne Frank
Museum. He came out of the museum in a rage. Someone had set up an exhibit
‘updating’ the Holocaust, so to speak, depicting the Serbs as today’s Nazis.
This outrageous act – at once trivializing the murder of the European Jews
and smearing the Serbs – convinced Mr. Prlin&#269;evi&#263; that, for the
forces that had attacked Yugoslavia, nothing was off limits, and that things
were not going to return to normal in Kosovo. In the second interview [2] he
opened up and told me much more about what had happened in Kosovo, answering
the important question: Why did many Kosovo Albanians flee to Macedonia and
Albania during the 1999 NATO bombing? Were they fleeing bombs, or were they
fleeing Serbs? He told me they were fleeing neither.
Below is the first interview, in which Mr. Prlincevic discusses what
happened to him and his family when NATO and the KLA arrived in Priština,
provincial capital of Kosovo, in June 1999.
-- Jared Israel
Emperor’s Clothes
March 6, 2008
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“Driven From Kosovo – Part I”
Interview with &#268;edomir Prlin&#269;evi&#263;
Sept. 1, 1999
Interviewer, Jared Israel
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Jared Israel: So you are the President of the Jewish Community in Priština?
[Priština, capital of the province of Kosovo, is pronounced ‘Prishtina.’ –
J.I.]?
&#268;edomir Prlincevic (pronounced Pre-lin-che-vich): It was a small
community. We have all left.
Israel: Why did you leave?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Because the political settlement became a military
resolution. There was pressure on the citizens. They didn’t ask which
nationality you were; you were pressed to leave your apartment and the city.
Even if I had a paper which said I am the President of the Jewish Community
of Priština, in English, signed by the President of the Federation of Jewish
Communities from Belgrade, Mr. Singer, the officers from KFOR, [‘KFOR’
stands for ‘Kosovo Force,’ NATO’s name for its troops in Kosovo. – J.I.]
refused to recognize that paper and I was kept imprisoned in my home for one
week.
I gave it to another KFOR officer later and he said, “I have other business
to attend to.”
The powers from Albania came into the country. Their main purpose was to get
all the non-Albanian population out. With help from Eliz Viza from Israel
and from the Chairman of the Jewish Community from Skopje [pronounced Skopya
– J.I.], I was rescued, taken by taxi together with my wife and my mother to
Macedonia and from Macedonia I came to Belgrade. The whole rescue operation
of my family was broadcast on Israeli TV. Altogether there were 40 people of
Jewish origin in Kosovo. They are of mixed marriage, Jewish-Albanian,
Jewish-Turkish and Jewish-Serbian. All are prepared to go to Israel. To go
back to Kosovo for us is too late. Even though we got a guarantee from Thaçi
[pronounced Thatchee – J.I.] who is the head of the KLA [Kosovo Liberation
Army, the NATO-backed, anti-Serb terrorist force – J.I.], that our homes
would not be touched we have information that all our apartments and our
houses were completely robbed and demolished. Which means that the UÇK and
Thaçi do not have control. [‘UÇK’ stands for Ushtria Çlirimtare e Kosovës.
In English: Kosovo Liberation Army or KLA – J.I.]
Israel: Or they were lying. What did you do in Priština?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: I was a public employee, the Director of Archives of
Kosovo and Metohija. There is documentation there which tells the story of
Serbians and Turks and Albanians and Jews, whoever lived in Kosovo, and the
way of life there.
Israel: Did you ever experience antisemitism from the Serbs?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Never. Neither from the Albanians. I was a manager of
both Albanians and Serbians. We were not driven from Kosovo by Albanians
from Priština but by Albanians from Albania.
Israel: In other words a lot of the people we saw cheering German troops on
the street were not the local residents?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: The same people who were demonstrating in Albania a
few years ago and demolishing the whole country – they are in Kosovo now.
Israel: They have been brought in intentionally by KFOR?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: I cannot tell you.
Israel: Put it this way: they haven’t been stopped?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: No one is stopping them. And with KFOR’s assistance,
actually. KFOR was there, saw it all, allowed them to do what they did.
Israel: How did it happen? Were threats made after which you went to KFOR
and they said, ‘We won’t help you’?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: They [ Mr. Prlin&#269;evi&#263; is referring to the
terrorists, not KFOR – J.I.] came to our home and threatened they would kill
us. They would slaughter us. My wife was defending me. My wife is Serbian.
And she was defending me in front of the door.
Israel: How was she doing that?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: They said we will slaughter you, and she said to them,
“Kill me! Slaughter me! I will not leave my home!” Then officials of the
Jewish community came to our home and put us in a taxi.
Israel: Your wife is a very brave woman. You have made tears come to my
eyes.
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: And the same happens to me here. She is very brave and
I am proud of her.
Israel: OK. OK. Getting back to the people who came to your house. Had you
ever seen them before?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Never.
Israel: Were they armed?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: With machine guns. They completely cleared out the
building and the whole area where we lived.
Israel: Cleared out?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: The whole area of 30,000 people; they completely
cleared it.
Israel: 30,000? Emptied it?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Emptied it. Went from house to house and building to
building.
Israel: Did they kill anyone?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Initially one person – a member of a family named
Kompic, a Serbian family – they killed, which was an obvious reason for us
not to resist.
Israel: In other words they made an example of one family and then they said
if you want to die –
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: All night they were banging the doors and slamming the
doors and going inside apartments and from apartment to apartment.
Israel: Were those private houses?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Apartment buildings. Many of the people who lived
there are of prominent status and social position in the city. Even
Albanians who lived in the same buildings were also running away. It was not
only Serbian; it was of mixed nationality. This was something completely
unknown in the history of Kosovo. Since Kosovo is a multi-national,
multi-confessional [i.e., multi-religious – J.I.] society, which lived
together for 500 years, there was no such level of hatred as now.
Israel: But you are saying they have sent in Albanians in large numbers from
Albania?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: This is a pogrom toward the non-Albanian population
all around the Kosovo area, Djakovica, Pe&#263;, Kosovska Mitrovica, all
over Metohija. Metohija and Kosovo both. [Note: the proper name for the
province is Kosovo and Metohija – J.I.]
Israel: But it is not being done by the local Albanians?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Yes, the foreign Albanians. They differ in language. A
different dialect. All over Kosovo it is the same situation. I cannot
testify 100% that it is done exclusively by Albanians from Albania. But I
have not seen revenge taken against a man by his next door neighbor who was
Albanian –
Israel: Did you try to go to KFOR?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: KFOR was in my house when they came there.
Israel: What?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: When the Albanians started to destroy apartments,
someone called KFOR and a KFOR officer came inside the house; he was there
with his squad. There was a whole bunch [of terrorists – J.I.] going up and
down the stairs, a 24 hours pressure of people going up and down the stairs,
banging, entering, demolishing. They break down the door and pour in tear
gas in some places; and they were robbing –
Israel: Excuse me?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Robbing, robbing.
Israel: Now, you said the KFOR men were there? Did they actually witness it?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Yes.
Israel: What did they say?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: They didn’t react at all. They didn’t protect anybody.
Israel: For God’s sake, what did they say?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: They said it is for the civil authorities to regulate
the problem. They were only concerned with killings.
Israel: Who were the civil authorities?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: They were not formed yet. There were none.
Israel: How did you know whether you were going to get murdered when someone
banged down the door? I guess after you were murdered, you would know?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Yes. They were just there to draw up documents if you
were murdered.
Israel: So. Archivists?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Yes. Last month a number of very heavy crimes and
murders happened in Kosovo. Instead of getting ‘European democracy’ we got a
non-defined form of power and – power is not the right word…
Israel: Fascism?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: No. Not fascism. Force. Power. Probably an historian
will invent a new word for this …
Israel: It needs a new word …
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Jews have a word, which is pogrom.
Israel: Yeah. It’s a pogrom; that’s right. It’s a pogrom. Indiscriminate
brutality against a group – in this case defined by anybody who is – but
wait, you say it includes Albanians –
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: The population expected real security from KFOR and
that’s why they didn’t leave the places where they lived…
Israel: Ahh. Boy. You were set up.
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: And that’s what surprised us the most. Instead of
defending the population they [i.e., KFOR – J.I.] just stand by and watch
what is happening as if it is not a relevant situation. During June and July
300,000 people left Kosovo, which is the non-Albanian population, Serbians,
Turks, Gorani [Slavic Muslims] , ’Gypsies,’ that is the Romi, also people
from Montenegro. 300,000.
Israel: What about – you said Albanians from Kosovo were being harassed too
–
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Yes. Those who were pro-Yugoslav oriented. Who were
loyal citizens of the country.
Israel: So the people who were living –
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: They [i.e., the terrorists – J.I.] could tell from the
person’s work.
Israel: So the people who were living in the area with you, were considered
by these gangs to be collaborationists because they were living in a mixed
area?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: No. Only the position of power.
Israel: I’m not sure what you mean.
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: They attacked those who were not for their separatist
movement. Not supporters of the separatists.
Israel: So they knew which neighborhoods [the loyalists lived in]?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Yes. They knew. Every loyal citizen of Serbia was
punished. It doesn’t matter which party he belongs to, the opposition or the
ruling party; it doesn’t matter. Different parties have different ideas and
different religious or national characteristics but –
Israel: They didn’t care about any of that?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: No. They have realized the plan of Greater Albania in
Kosovo. From World War II, from Fascism.
Israel: During the bombing the US press says the Serbs attacked the
Albanians. What did you witness?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: The war was very dirty, between the army and the
secessionists. [Mr. Prlin&#269;evi&#263; paused here – J.I.] Thirty-five
members of my family are here with me now. And my mother is here. And one
pregnant lady, eight months. Twenty of us are without work. We left
everything in Kosovo. Seven apartments and three houses that we owned. Some
land. And all my life. All my life and I am penniless. I didn’t have time. I
was not ready to go. I did not even have a suitcase to pack.
Israel: So for all you know some people didn’t get out and are murdered? Is
that true?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Yes. All I brought was the Talmud. My mother Bea is 81
years old. And my wife. I would prefer to stay in Serbia. First I have a
problem with my mother; she is old and sick and what am I going to do with
her in Israel now? I love Israel; I was there many times; but it is very
hard for me at 61 to settle there.
Israel: My heart goes out to you.
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Thank you very much.
Israel: Thank you for being brave to give me this interview.
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: It is very difficult but we have to say the truth. I
think that people of good heart and good will will take this interview in
the best manner.
Israel: I hope so.
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: And this interview should be a beginning of a
different kind of thinking and nobody should be a victim in life.
Israel: I agree with you. Before, I asked you a question but you didn’t
answer. The Press said the Yugoslav Army committed atrocities against
Albanians during the bombing. You said the war was dirty. Could you tell us
more?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Why? Even if I speak about this, nobody trusts
citizens of Serbia. Even if I say no, it did not happen, nobody will trust
the Serbians.
Israel: But I don’t know exactly what happened; we need to know exactly –
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Even if I say no, even if one Jew coming from Priština
would say this charge is not true, it is very hard to believe because he can
be a person who has some reason; he can be accused of –
Israel: So what? So they won’t believe you! Let them believe what they will
but at least if you say the truth it is being said. Don’t you see, the truth
must be –
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: I was completely out of the fighting between the Army
and KLA –
Israel: But you were in Priština. You are the Chief Archivist of Kosovo. And
you know! I am sure that you know! You know if there were people going
around massacring people; you know from Albanian friends what was going on;
you know if the Army was involved, if CNN was telling the truth or lying;
you know a thousand times more than I do and if you can just tell the truth
– somebody has to tell the truth for God’s –
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: All right.
Israel: And if bad things happened, say that – just tell the truth –
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Bad things did happen. But Serbians as a people, as a
nation, were not a nation that from the beginning of its history till this
day did genocidal atrocities. But there were individuals who did certain
things that should not have been done. But somebody is taking this,
exaggerating, trying to make us [i.e., people loyal to Yugoslavia – J.I.]
the black sheep and – look, the Serbian people had no problems with the
ethnic Albanians and as much as they saved Albanians, the Albanians saved
them, especially in the latest period, but as soon as KFOR came in [to
Kosovo – J.I.] and the border was opened to Macedonia and Albania lots of
outside Albanians came in and the end of it is a mess, killings. So what I’m
saying is during the bombardment, in the places where the people lived,
there was no massacre by the local population. The Serbs were defending the
Albanians from paramilitary troops.
Israel: Not from the Yugoslav Army? They didn’t have to defend them from the
Army?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Never from the Army, not from the police, not from the
regular Serbs. No. But with the withdrawal of the army [Note: After the
three months of NATO bombing, under the terms of UN Resolution 1124 –
essentially, terms of surrender – in June 1999 Yugoslavia withdrew all its
troops from Kosovo – J.I.] there were paramilitary groups that existed on
both sides – and that was when there was dirt.
Israel: But during the bombing?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: Then there was no massacring at all. For example in
Priština we were sitting together with Albanians in the cellar, in the
basement.
Israel: From the bombs?
Prlin&#269;evi&#263;: From NATO. All of us together, “Gypsies”, that’s the
Romi people, Serbians, Turks, Albanians, Jews, tenants of the same building.
Together. We were together.
(End of September 1999 interview)
Tanto per dare un'idea.
Adesso l'UCK e' al governo, e i britannici hanno appena mandato una brigata
di rinforzo in zona.
Trattasi di guerre di espansione dove si usano i nazionalismi e le etnie.
Gli Inglesi sono maestri in questo.
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