Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Le 10 bugie di Bush and Blair

LIE #1: "The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear
weapons program ... Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum
tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to
enrich uranium for nuclear weapons." - President Bush, Oct. 7, 2002, in
Cincinnati.
FACT: This story, leaked to and breathlessly reported by Judith Miller in
the New York Times, has turned out to be complete baloney. Department of
Energy officials, who monitor nuclear plants, say the tubes could not be
used for enriching uranium. One intelligence analyst, who was part of the
tubes investigation, angrily told The New Republic: "You had senior American
officials like Condoleezza Rice saying the only use of this aluminum really
is uranium centrifuges. She said that on television. And that's just a lie."
LIE #2: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently
sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." - President Bush,
Jan.28, 2003, in the State of the Union address.
FACT: This whopper was based on a document that the White House already knew
to be a forgery thanks to the CIA. Sold to Italian intelligence by some
hustler, the document carried the signature of an official who had been out
of office for 10 years and referenced a constitution that was no longer in
effect. The ex-ambassador who the CIA sent to check out the story is pissed:
"They knew the Niger story was a flat-out lie," he told the New Republic,
anonymously. "They [the White House] were unpersuasive about aluminum tubes
and added this to make their case more strongly."
LIE #3: "We believe [Saddam] has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons." -
Vice President Cheney on March 16, 2003 on "Meet the Press."
FACT: There was and is absolutely zero basis for this statement. CIA reports
up through 2002 showed no evidence of an Iraqi nuclear weapons program.
LIE #4: "[The CIA possesses] solid reporting of senior-level contacts
between Iraq and al-Qaeda going back a decade." - CIA Director George Tenet
in a written statement released Oct. 7, 2002 and echoed in that evening's
speech by President Bush.
FACT: Intelligence agencies knew of tentative contacts between Saddam and
al-Qaeda in the early '90s, but found no proof of a continuing relationship.
In other words, by tweaking language, Tenet and Bush spun the
intelligence180 degrees to say exactly the opposite of what it suggested.
LIE #5: "We've learned that Iraq has trained al-Qaeda members in bomb-making
and poisons and deadly gases ... Alliance with terrorists could allow the
Iraqi regime to attack America without leaving any fingerprints." -
President Bush, Oct. 7.
FACT: No evidence of this has ever been leaked or produced. Colin Powell
told the U.N. this alleged training took place in a camp in northern Iraq.
To his great embarrassment, the area he indicated was later revealed to be
outside Iraq's control and patrolled by Allied war planes.
LIE #6: "We have also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a
growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to
disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We are concerned
that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVs [unmanned aerial vehicles]
for missions targeting the United States." - President Bush, Oct. 7.
FACT: Said drones can't fly more than 300 miles, and Iraq is 6,000 miles
from the U.S. coastline. Furthermore, Iraq's drone-building program wasn't
much more advanced than your average model plane enthusiast. And isn't a
"manned aerial vehicle" just a scary way to say "plane"?
LIE #7: "We have seen intelligence over many months that they have chemical
and biological weapons, and that they have dispersed them and that they're
weaponized and that, in one case at least, the command and control
arrangements have been established." - President Bush, Feb. 8, 2003, in a
national radio address.
FACT: Despite a massive nationwide search by U.S. and British forces, there
are no signs, traces or examples of chemical weapons being deployed in the
field, or anywhere else during the war.
LIE #8: "Our conservative estimate is that Iraq today has a stockpile of
between 100 and 500 tons of chemical weapons agent. That is enough to fill
16,000 battlefield rockets." - Secretary of State Colin Powell, Feb. 5 2003,
in remarks to the UN Security Council.
FACT: Putting aside the glaring fact that not one drop of this massive
stockpile has been found, as previously reported on AlterNet the United
States' own intelligence reports show that these stocks - if they existed -
were well past their use-by date and therefore useless as weapon fodder.
LIE #9: "We know where [Iraq's WMD] are. They're in the area around Tikrit
and Baghdad and east, west, south, and north somewhat." - Secretary of
Defense Donald Rumsfeld, March 30, 2003, in statements to the press.
FACT: Needless to say, no such weapons were found, not to the east, west,
south or north, somewhat or otherwise.
LIE #10: "Yes, we found a biological laboratory in Iraq which the UN
prohibited." - President Bush in remarks in Poland, published
internationally June 1, 2003.
FACT: This was reference to the discovery of two modified truck trailers
that the CIA claimed were potential mobile biological weapons lab. But
British and American experts - including the State Department's intelligence
wing in a report released this week - have since declared this to be untrue.
According to the British, and much to Prime Minister Tony Blair's
embarrassment, the trailers are actually exactly what Iraq said they were;
facilities to fill weather balloons, sold to them by the British themselves.

British themselves.
Ca***ta.  Non c'e' mai stata una simile affermazione.
-Stefano

 
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,973012,00.html
Che parla di una investigazione da parte dei servizi inglesi di cui non
mostra i risultati.
Il resto sono ca***te.
-Stefano

 
infatti e vedi sopra.
Bye
DonJuan

quasi.
Mai sentito di missili con gas sarin.  Ne deduco che quella che hai
riportato e' una burla o quasi.
-Stefano

 riportato e' una burla o quasi.
Il fatto che tu non abbia sentito parlare di una cosa, la rende
automaticamente una burla?
Raffaele
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automaticamente una burla?
No, ma visto che sono alquanto informato al riguardo e che una simile
notizia avrebbe avuto eco mondiale, fai tu il resto....
-Stefano

Sei semplicemente patetico.


Lo so ma ricordo cmq che all'epoca ne parlarono i TG poi ci si è 
concentrati sulla ricerca degli arsenali veri e propi ed è finita nel 
dimenticatoio... Mi limito a riportare la notizia.
Bisognerebbe chiederlo alla 101a divisione che a quanto mi risulta non 
ha nè confermato nè smentito la cosa... Ne deduco che qualcosa c'è ma 
per motivi che non ci è dato di sapere in seguito non è stata 
pubblicizzata...
Io penso si tratti di peso politico nel senso che si cercavano arsenali 
non qualche arma chimica che si sa in ogni caso che avesse.
Cmq ripeto io ho riportato solo la notizia la tua considerazione è più 
che giustificata. In definitiva fra le due io opterei per il quasi :)
Ciao
DonJuan

 Sei semplicemente patetico.
...disse il bue all'asino...
-Stefano