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Titolo: [WP]Italy Calls Shooting an Accident

Dal Washington Post avallano la tesi dell'incidente, su cui io stessa sono
daccordo.
Poi però insistono sul non esser stati avvertiti: ma, dico io, allora il non
avvertire dà diritto a sparare a ruota libera su un'auto? E se si fosse
trattato di una famiglia di civili iracheni?
Bah...
Saluti
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Official Urges U.S. Probe of Iraq Slaying
By Alan Cooperman and Bradley Graham
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, March 9, 2005; Page A18
ROME, March 8 -- Italy's foreign minister said Tuesday that the killing of
an Italian intelligence agent and wounding of an Italian journalist by U.S.
troops in Iraq was an accident, but he demanded that the United States
conduct a thorough investigation and punish those at fault.
In a somber speech to Parliament, Gianfranco Fini disputed the U.S.
military's version of the events that led to Friday night's shooting near
Baghdad International Airport. The car carrying journalist Giuliani Sgrena
to the airport -- less than an hour after her release by insurgents who had
held her hostage -- was coming to a halt when it was riddled by gunfire at a
U.S. checkpoint, Fini said. He also said the slain intelligence agent,
Nicola Calipari, had made a series of phone calls in an effort to alert
Italian and U.S. authorities.
In Washington, Army Gen. George W. Casey, the top U.S. general in Iraq, said
an investigation of the shooting had been ordered. But Casey said he had
been unaware Friday that Italian officials had entered Iraq to rescue Sgrena
and said he had heard nothing since to indicate the Italians had informed
U.S. forces of the route her car would take.
Casey told reporters at the Pentagon that a member of his staff, Brig. Gen.
Peter Vangjel, would head the investigation. He said that "modalities" of
the probe were still being discussed with the Italians but that he expected
it to be conducted jointly.
Casey, in Washington this week for consultations, said that before he left
Baghdad on Friday he had made "preliminary inquiries" into what went wrong.
He declined to provide his own account, citing the probe.
The shooting has caused outrage in Italy, where 20,000 people turned out for
Calipari's funeral Monday. Sgrena, a reporter for the Communist daily
newspaper Il Manifesto, has fueled anti-American sentiment by suggesting
that U.S. forces may have targeted the car because the United States opposes
negotiating with hostage-takers.
Fini said there were no grounds to believe the shooting was deliberate, and
he dismissed calls by opposition parties for Prime Minister Silvio
Berlusconi's government to withdraw the 2,700 Italian troops serving in the
U.S.-led force in Iraq.
But he said the government's conclusion that the shooting was an accident
resulting from a series of "fatal coincidences" did not mean it should drop
the matter. "This does not prevent us -- in fact, it obliges us -- to demand
clarification, to ask that light be shed on points that are still murky, to
identify who is responsible . . . and to obtain the punishment of the
guilty," Fini said.
In an initial statement after the shooting last week, the Army's 3rd
Infantry Division in Baghdad said the Italians' car was "traveling at high
speeds" and refused to halt at a checkpoint despite attempts by U.S.
soldiers to warn the driver to stop "by hand and arm signals, flashing white
lights, and firing warning shots in front of the car."
A senior military officer in Washington, speaking on condition of anonymity,
said Tuesday that soldiers at the checkpoint reported that Sgrena's car was
traveling about 60 mph and had been signaled with a spotlight to stop when
it was about 125 yards from the checkpoint.
Fini's detailed description of the incident -- based on testimony by the
driver, an unidentified Italian intelligence agent -- contained no mention
of warning shots or hand signals. Fini said the car was traveling at no more
than 25 mph on a wet road as the driver steered around cement blocks. Fini
said the driver was already braking when the car was hit by a burst of
automatic gunfire lasting 10 to 15 seconds.
U.S. soldiers ordered the driver to his knees outside the car, then
repeatedly apologized once they realized who was in the car, Fini said.
Casey, asked about statements by Italian officials that the U.S. military
had been informed of Sgrena's release and the plan to transport her to the
airport, said he knew of nothing confirming that such communication took
place. "I personally do not have any indication of that, even on a
preliminary basis," he said.
The incident has focused attention on U.S. checkpoint procedures, a
contentious topic among some Iraqis who regard U.S. forces as sometimes too
quick on the trigger. A number of civilians have been killed after failing
to stop or committing some other error on approaching checkpoints.
Casey said he had asked a subordinate to review all checkpoint incidents in
the past six months to determine what lessons could be drawn. He said a
separate checkpoint incident Friday, which resulted in the death of a
Bulgarian soldier, had deepened his concern about procedures. "Obviously,
the timing gave me cause for discomfort," Casey said. "It was troublesome."
[Early Wednesday in Baghdad, a suicide bomber driving a garbage truck
detonated explosives near a hotel used by Iraqi police and their foreign
instructors, killing at least one person and wounding at least six, the
Reuters news agency reported, citing police.]
© 2005 The Washington Post Company

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E se si fosse trattato di una famiglia di civili iracheni?
La cosa non avrebbe fatto nessunissimo differenza.  Se fosse andata a
160km/h, non si fosse fermata all'alt e avesse rappresentato una
minaccia, avrebbe ricevuto il medesimo trattamento.
-Stefano

 Bah...
....indubbiamente il sugo odierno presenta lacune e macroscopici errori
di cottura.......mmmmmhhhh....."mala tempora currunt" !!!!!
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trattato di una famiglia di civili iracheni?
E se si fosse trattato di un kamikaze in arrivo ?
K.

 E se si fosse trattato di un kamikaze in arrivo ?
"Nel dubbio spara", ma poi non mervegliarti se ti tendono gli agguati.
Riot
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Gli ottimisti credono che viviamo nel migliore dei mondi possibili.
I pessimisti temono che sia vero.

"Nel dubbio spara", ma poi non mervegliarti se ti tendono gli agguati.
Il nesso tra le due cose?
-Stefano

 Il nesso tra le due cose?
...
Stai scherzando, vero?
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 Stai scherzando, vero?
C.V.D.
-Stefano

 C.V.D.
C.V.D. nel senso che stavi scherzando o nel senso che davvero non riesci 
a capire come la politica del "nel dubbio spara" causi vittime innocenti 
e non sia il modo migliore per farsi amica una popolazione occupata?
P.S. ti prego di non cambiare il tag [RSDC] che metto negli oggetti, non 
serve per insultarti, ma per permettere alla gente che non vuole leggere 
i tuoi scritti o le risposte ad essi di filtrarli.
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 *LOL*
Il punto č: davvero non sei in grado di arrivarci da solo?
La casistica preesistente accrediterebbe largamente quest'ipotesi, ma se hai 
qualcosa da dire in proposito... 

occupata?
Che ca**o c'entra il "non sia il modo migliore per farsi amica una
popolazione occupata" con la puttanata che hai scritto sai anche
spiegarlo? :)
*LOL*
-Stefano