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Titolo: Down With La Laicité -- to Beat Islamism, We Need a Secularism That Encourages Religion (CFR)

Come dicevo n USA hanno un altro concetto del secolarimo. Qui:
 
http://www.cfr.org/religion/down-la-laicite-beat-islamism-we-need-secularism-encourages-religion/p35976
 
 
Sebbene sia cresciuto con Charlie Hebdo, ora penso che la situazione in EU e con Internet e' cambiata, e che bisognerebbe evitare la blasfemia, o l'odio verso le religioni. Del resto non siamo nel 1789, anche se alcuni islamici danno l'impressione di essere rimasti nel 1500.

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Do' la fine dell'articolo. Food for thought!
 
 
Laicite reflects the popular view of secularism, defining the 'neutral' public space as one in which religion cannot feature. With no space for the religious, it fosters an institutional inability to understand a faith-based world view.
But the secularism of the UK or the US is truly neutral, privileging no one group to the disadvantage of others, but welcoming the sacred with the profane. This is a pluralist system that draws on the nation's history, finding its roots in its religious heritage. Without this underpinning, those values that we hold dear cannot be sustained: our rights and freedoms drawn from our Judaeo-Christian understanding of the inherent dignity of the person; the rule of law derived from an emphasis on the divine appointment of government for the good of the people.
 
It is only through the lens of our religious history that we can understand our greatest humanitarian achievements: the evangelical fervour that drove Wilberforce; our opposition to tyranny; the refuge that we have given to the persecuted for centuries. A chapel that still houses a Huguenot church in Canterbury Cathedral stands as a memorial to this driving force; a 19th century author wrote of it 'still that... eloquent memorial of the religious history of the middle ages survives, bearing testimony [to]... the large and liberal spirit of the English church, and the glorious asylum with England has in all times given to foreigners flying for refuge against oppression'.
 
Muslims have a complicated relationship with secularism. In many Muslim societies, atheism and secularism are synonymous. Muslim democrats such as Tunisia's Raschid Ghannouchi and others reject French laicite as anti-religious, but accept US and UK secularism as accommodating of religion. They prefer religious pluralism or ta'addudiyah in Arabic, a more positive term than secularism. Our battle is not over words, but ideas -- if ta'addudiyah engenders free and vibrant societies, then we must welcome it.
 
Ghannouchi lived in England for over a decade. He speaks fluent French and English. Muslims in the West need to better understand that secularism and religious freedom are the ultimate guarantors for the flourishing of healthy religion. Muslim leaders in Europe must stop the public hesitation and endorse a secular state as the best facilitator for private piety and public service. Turkey's Erdogan pleaded with Arab lslamists in Cairo to adopt a secular constitution and guarantee rights to minorities and majorities. Had they listened to his advice, today Morsi might not be in prison. Similarly, the current trajectory of the rise of anti-Muslim sentiment across Europe cannot be placed solely at the doors of the far right. Muslim separatism has contributed to this animosity.
 
Shariah does not threaten the West, and we cannot let militants intimidate us. The fourteenth century Muslim scholar Imam Shatibi wrote that the shariah is about preservation of life, family, intellect, property and religion. These are known as the maqasid or higher aims of the shariah. Muslim thinkers have repeatedly asserted that any society that conserves the maqasid is an Islamic society. By that definition, secular Britain is already fully Islamic. The hardliners have no case. The onus is upon us to help peaceful Muslims defeat extremism by empowering the right side of the battle of ideas raging inside Islam.
 
Liberalism and pluralism are not abstract values. We too often take for granted the peace and harmony in which our countries exist. If in doubt, ask protestors in Tianamen Square or Tahrir square. We need to be more confident in our past and present and end this post-imperial self-flagellation and hand-wringing. There are numerous reasons why British and American embassies are flocked by Muslims seeking a new life in these shores.
 
Muslims, Jews and Christians all share an Abrahamic heritage. In our schools, we should not be afraid to draw on this heritage. Saying that Britain is a Christian country is an asset, not a liability. Secularism, understood properly, embraces all religions without fear or favour. This vision of secularism offers a more potent form of integration than laicite can hope to achieve. It is such an understanding that can inspire: a secularism that encourages the inherent value of the religious worldview and the utility of its contributions to society. There is the anchor to our Western values. On such ground all can stand.
 
Ed Husain is a senior adviser at The Tony Blair Faith Foundation and Peter Welby is editorial manager of Religion and Geopolitics
 
Ricordo per altro che proprio Russia e Cina si sono attirate piu' stabilmente l'odio delle loro minoranze islamiche. Forse l'ateismo militante c'entra qualcosa.

 Come dicevo n USA hanno un altro concetto del secolarimo. 
 
non a caso in USA ci sono piu' musulmani che in tutta Europa, e molti meno terroristi.
Vai a spiegarlo ai giacobini di casa nostra, ancora incazzati perche' il prete gli ha levato il giornaletto porno. 

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Beh l'Italia e' ancora un altra cosa, con i crocifissi nelle aule. Tuttavia sembra che Francesco vada verso la convivenza religiosa. Dopotutto non c'e' solo l'Italia. ma miliardi di religiosi.