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Titolo: Nel frattempo a Islamabad...

Salta in aria un hotel per attentato.
Ci sarebbero una cinquantina di morti.
Tb

 personale del nuovo governo, se non erro.
Ah, non sapevo. Ho letto solo il titolo.
Tb


Ops Kamerade, alti funzionari del Reichstag in pericolo.
Corra a difenderli.
Heil .......
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Un membro del partito come lei Her Doctor dovrebbe infornare Strudel e
stappare botti di birra.
Mi rammarico per la perdita di un cosi' significativo simbolo del Reich.
Certo che andate proprio a cercarvele.
Le marionette rossobrune le eliminate col gas a Dachau ?
Heil .........
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 Ci sarebbero una cinquantina di morti.
Beh, tali attentati alla fine si ritorceranno contro gli autori: in 7 anni 
il supporto nel mondo islamico per tali strategie è crollato. In Iraq ha 
rapidamente portato alla sconfitta e all'isolamento le fazioni che vi si 
dedicavano.
-- 
"Il Basileus che siede a Costantinopoli vince sempre".
Kekaumenos. 

 Non esiste invece 'il supporto del mondo islamico', povero te.
Esistono i sondaggi di opinione nei paesi islamici. Controlla pure se non ci 
credi...
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 Tb
#_E chi si e`mai dimenticato, specialmente noi italiani vissuti in anni
crudi, di Milano e Bologna...dei petardi di Stato?
Il Pakistan sta lentamente scivolando da infido amico a nemico fidato,
allora non c'e`altro di meglio del trauma di un....BOOOMM! a ristabilire
gli schieramenti in pericolo.
G.
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves
up and hurry off as if nothing had happened."~ Winston Churchill
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http://www.iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/175438
In Pakistan, sympathy for the Taliban
By Mustafa Qadri
Tehrek-e-Taliban-Pakistan (Taliban Movement of Pakistan) , the umbrella
organization for Pakistan's multiple Taliban movements, seeks to spread its
strict Deobandi interpretation of Islam to all of Pakistan.
"They don't just want to control FATA the Federally Administered Tribal
Areas where they are based, but want to control the entire country," says
Ayesha Jalal, one of the foremost historians of Pakistan who recently wrote
a book on the history of jihad in South Asia. The Taliban claim they fight
in the name of Islam.
But if the Taliban are judged by actions and not words, their primary
targets are ordinary Muslims.
A Taliban suicide attack on the Wah army munitions facility in August killed
70 and injured over 100 more. All those killed were ordinary, working
Muslims, as were the people killed by a Taliban suicide bomber when he blew
himself up at the casualty ward of a hospital in the city of Dera Ismail
Khan on August 19. The Taliban said the attack was justified because the
hospital was administering polio vaccinations, something it considers
prohibited by Islam.
The nearly weekly attacks on girls' schools - such as the more than 100
destroyed in Pakistan's northwestern and mountainous Swat district in the
past 10 months - are justified in the same way.
Such acts against fellow Muslims seem unconscionable even to conservative
Muslims not affiliated with the Taliban. "The people who planned the
assassination attack on me are not Muslim," declared former Pakistan prime
minister Benazir Bhutto after she survived the first attempt on her life in
October last year. "No Muslim can attack a woman. No Muslim can attack
innocent people."
After the Wah blasts, Pakistan Prime Minister Yousuf Gilani told parliament,
"We cannot allow terrorists to challenge the writ of the government."
Yet the Taliban manage to retain the sympathy of many Muslims in Afghanistan
and Pakistan. A major reason for this is the presence of foreign troops that
do not appear to understand the dynamics of local tribal politics. Another
is the insecurity that most civilians exposed to the conflict face. When
foreign forces kill civilians, the Taliban are able to avoid responsibility
for the atrocities they commit.
Long line of occupiers
Pakistan's political and religious leadership, while routinely condemning
their violence, has generally avoided challenging the Taliban's credentials
as a Muslim movement. Many leaders, like the Jamiat-Ulema-Islami's Maulana
Fazal Rehman, prefer to focus on deaths caused by Western forces in
Pakistan's North-West Frontier Province (NWFP) and Afghanistan. The
inescapable message is that the Taliban may not be loved, but the real
criminals are foreign interlopers.
This double standard is partially explained by popular antipathy toward the
involvement of Western armies in Afghanistan and Pakistan. The United States
and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) follow in a long line of
foreign armies that have claimed to bring order to the region but have
instead killed many civilians while serving their own interests and failing
to respect local traditions.
US and NATO attacks have increased in 2008, as have civilian casualties, and
US officials recently admitted that their forces conducted what may have
been the first US ground assault against the Taliban in Pakistan in early
September. NATO forces also stand accused of taking part in the operation in
which up to 20 civilians, including women and children, were killed.
Some Pakistanis believe the Taliban insurgency is the latest in a long line
of anti-colonial militancy stretching back to the mid-19th century uprisings
against British rule. The Pakistan army, in contrast, is seen as an agent of
the United States. Former Pakistani president Pervez Musharraf exacerbated
this perception with his unquestioning support for US intervention in the
region. Under Musharraf, the US established a massive air base near Quetta,
just south of NWFP, from which it launches air strikes in Pakistan and
Afghanistan with impunity.
Nor have people forgotten that Pakistan was the conduit for America's proxy
war with the Soviets in Afghanistan during the 1980s. That war developed the
infrastructure that the Taliban now uses to prosecute its war. Moreover,
Pakistan's war with the Taliban in the NWFP has displaced up to 300,000
citizens. US and NATO missile strikes have also displaced tens of thousands
of people. This has helped nurture sympathy for the Taliban at a time when
many Pakistanis feel besieged by the US and India, an old rival that's
developing greater regional power.
Another factor is that the conflict isn't merely between the Taliban and the
armies of Pakistan, Afghanistan, the US and NATO. That conflict is but one
strand of a complex web of conflicts that includes militant groups either
supported or opposed by Pakistan's military establishment, and rival tribes
involved in regional disputes that have been co-opted into the wider
conflict, such as the inter-tribal and sectarian clashes currently occurring
in the Kurram Agency region of NWFP.
The lack of clearly distinguishable friends and foes has made it difficult
for both Pakistan's politicians and the general population to single out the
Taliban for the atrocities they have committed. As a result, many in
Pakistan live in denial of the existence and motives of
Tehrek-e-Taliban-Pakistan. "There is no Tehrek-e-Taliban-Pakistan," says
Asif, a musician from Lahore. "This is a civil war but they don't want to
tell people that."
Others like Mahmoud, a Karachi rickshaw driver, are openly supportive of the
Taliban. "They are holy warriors, true Muslims," he said. To people like
Mahmoud, the Wah suicide attacks were justified. The people killed or
injured "deserved their fate for serving the interests of America and the
Jews. The Pakistan army has killed so many in NWFP and in the Red Mosque
during a Pakistan army siege that killed many hundreds including women and
children ... according to our faith, those who do not obey Islam are no
longer Muslim and it is lawful to kill them."
Growing understanding
But such sentiments don't go unchallenged. Many understand the Taliban as a
violent, extremist organization whose targeting of girls' schools and
civilians is inimical to the sub-continent's traditionally moderate Muslim
traditions.
"Islamic faith spread in the sub-continent through the Sufi tradition of
inclusiveness, embracing local traditions and religious concepts," notes
Pakistani historian Jalal.
A large demonstration took place in Wah after the suicide attacks and shops
closed the next day, also in protest. In several parts of NWFP, people are
forming armed squads to take on the Taliban. The tide may be starting to
turn against the Taliban, much as it did for Islamic militants in Algeria
during the 1990s.
Without adequate political leadership, eradicating sympathy for the Taliban
may prove more difficult than eradicating their hideouts in frontier
Pakistan. But as long as NATO and the United States continue unilateral
strikes in Pakistan that kill civilians, the real battle - for hearts and
minds - will be lost.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JI17Df03.html

 Messi da amici tuoi gia' allora?
Evita di quotare sto fascio di merda.
E' vomitevole.
Tb

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Giano Evita di quotare sto fascio di merda.
E' totalmente idiota.
Saluti
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 Messi da amici ..
#_Ad essere benevoli vorrei solo rilevare che dovunque l'Armata si rivolga , 
porta una jella da beccamorto triste vestito di nero.:-/
G. 

Am.
A me risulta che l'ISI sia il piů importante sponsor dei talebani e
quindi del mondo islamico.

Tonibaruch ha scritto:
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ci sei o ci fai?

 divide tra sunniti e sciiti.
Non mi pare che lascino il tempo che trovano: dopotutto quanto la 
disaffezione verso il jihad (condotto a suon di attacchi terroristici) 
preoccupi la stessa al-Qaida lo si vede dai recenti proclami teletrasmessi.
Per la stabilità del Pakistan lo scarso controllo governativo su Balucistan 
e Zone Tribali è molto più pericoloso degli attentati: questi infatti alla 
fine scatenano la reazione governativa (e lo smantellamento delle strutture 
teroristiche che li commettono), con il pieno appoggio delle opinioni 
pubbliche
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