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Titolo: Le Università yanquis perdono appeal

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/world/10106112.htm?1c
Fewer foreign students at U.S. grad schools
Associated Press
A new survey indicates the number of foreign graduate students
enrolling for the first time at U.S. universities is down 6 percent
this year -- the third straight decline after a decade of growth.
Educators worry that the trend is eroding America's position as the
world's leader in higher education.
The fall wasn't as steep as feared, considering applications last
spring were down 32 percent.
But the results of the survey, of 122 member institutions by the
Council of Graduate Schools, still are alarming to educators. U.S.
universities are highly dependent on foreign students for teaching and
research help, particularly in the sciences and in engineering, a
field in which foreigners make up 50 percent of graduate enrollment.
``If you took them out of the system, we would not be at the same
point we are in many of our endeavors -- scientific endeavors and also
economic growth,'' said Heath Brown, the council's director of
research and policy analysis.
More than two-thirds of schools reported some decline. The steepest
drops were in business (12 percent), sciences/agriculture (10 percent)
and engineering (8 percent).
Experts believe that a major factor is the difficulty -- or at least
perceived difficulty -- of getting student visas under tightened U.S.
immigration policies. Other factors include anti-Americanism abroad,
and increasing competitiveness from universities in India, China and
Europe.

Europe.
Il solito titolo del ca**o del solito disinformatore Namib, visto che
gli esperti indicati dall'articolo indicano come fattore principale ben
altro che l'"appeal".
-Stefano

 -Stefano
De Ce', mica intendeva 'sex appeal', che magari e' solo una particolare 
forma di appeal delle universita' USA ::))
(laughing his head off)
A.

De Ce', mica intendeva 'sex appeal',
...disse Amalric Bond, che ha imparato l'inglese da suo padre James
Bond... :)
-Stefano

 world's leader in higher education.
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Forse nel resto del mondo non sono interessati a studiare interressanti 
teorie quali quella del creazionismo o sentire gente che dici come il 
riscaldamento globale non sia causato dall'inquinamento.
Riot

 riscaldamento globale non sia causato dall'inquinamento.
Immagino che quello che dici sia fundato su qualcosa di concreto, e non su
leggende metropolitane o simili...
Raffaele
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Da quando l'effetto serra e' diventata una leggenda metropolitana?
K
-- 
Tonibaruch detto il bagarozzo, dopo aver fatto cilecca per l'ennesima volta
si sfogo' su IPI dicendo:
"Ma a voi funziona bene ..." 

 Da quando l'effetto serra e' diventata una leggenda metropolitana?
Mi riferisco alle sue affermazioni riguardo gli insegnamenti del
creazionismo e del buco nell'ozono nelle università usa.
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 creazionismo e del buco nell'ozono nelle università usa.
Ricerca su Google, creationism education, un link nella prima pagina:
http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/berra.htm
Per quanto riguarda il global warming non è un caso che la stragrande 
maggioranza degli "studiosi" che non credono che le cause del problema 
siano da ritrovarsi nell'effetto serra vivano o provengano dagli Stati 
Uniti.
Castagno, un giorno dovrai spiegarmi le motivazioni di questa tua difesa 
a oltranza degli US, eh?
Riot

 a oltranza degli US, eh?
Mi limito a controbilanciare gli spalatori di merda che ci sono in giro.
Mi sento molto un neutrale, se conosci D&D...
Raffele
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 attendibili...
Oh, De Cesari niente niente fosse anche contagioso? :)
Namib

 Mi sento molto un neutrale, se conosci D&D...
IMHO tendi un po' al chaotic. Certe ricadute medievali non sono 
giustificabili.
Riot

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news:lNKjd.288226$35.13...@news4.tin.it...
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#_No non e` CONTAGIO-SO  e`  COGNIATO-SO....!!!!
Giano 

 Europe.
"Europe"?  Magari le universita' Europee cogliessero l'occasione
(questo lo dico sia per ragioni "di bottega" che "ideali"), ma non
sono troppo fiducioso.
Un'altro aspetto (che per ora non c'entra con l'entrata di stranieri,
ma potrebbe a lungo termine), e' il controllo politico che i
conservatori Americani stanno tentando di istituire sulle universita',
colpevoli di essere troppo "liberal"  (tradotto per i non-addetti ai
lavoro:  ricercatori e professori
in genere non sono d'accordo con idee di repubblicani).
Fino ad adesso, la pressione era solo a livello di organizzazioni come
"campus-watch" (
www.campus-watch.org
) e "students for academic
freedom"
(
www.studentsforacademicfreedom.org
), che, tutto al piu' danno delle
noie
(professori che commettono il peccato capitale di parlare male di Bush
vengono pubblicamente messi in piazza), ma questo e' solo il primo
passo.
Queste organizzazioni stanno cercando di far passare leggi che
impongano "obiettivita' politica" nell'insegamento, (che in pratica
significa che
"tutte le ideologie" devono essere date pari dignita').
E il licenziamento di professori troppo "politici" e' gia'
all'orizzonte.
Vedi il caso di Joseph Massad,
http://www.juancole.com/2004_10_01_juancole_archive.html#109869240064667290
http://war-on-errorism.blogspot.com/2004/10/joseph-massad.html
http://www.petitiononline.com/jmassad/

 problemi ad accettare.
Qualche tempo fa avevo sentito di un gruppo di ricercatori che sosteneva,
e dimostrava a livello teorico, che effetto serra e buco nell'ozzono non
sono giustificabili dal solo inquinamento. Non ricordo i dettagli, ma
erano "convincenti", diciamo...
Raffaele
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 Fewer foreign students at U.S. grad schools
Non solo studenti
http://www.mcgilltribune.com/news/2004/11/09/News/Liberal.Professors.Escape.To.Mcgill-797568.shtml
Liberal professors escape to McGill
By Andrew Bauer
US President George W. Bush's re-election last Tuesday could be a
blessing in disguise for McGill's academic recruitment efforts.
Several US-based professors had threatened to head north of the border
if Bush were to win, leading to speculation on the part of some McGill
administrators that the pool of talent may grow this year.
"I would not be surprised if certain people got fed up if Bush wins,"
Dean of Arts John A. Hall said prior to the election.
The number of American professors McGill hires has risen dramatically
each year since 2001. In 2000, 8.5 per cent of new hires were US
citizens. This year, 22 per cent of incoming professors are American.
Altogether, 47 American professors were hired from 2002 to 2003,
compared to only 18 from 2000 to 2001.
News reports have forecast the possibility of an influx of
self-proclaimed "political refugees" from the US. As the Toronto-based
War Resisters Support Campaign says, "The continuing Iraq war probably
means that more US war resisters will seek refuge in Canada."
Michael Kergin, Canadian ambassador to the US, denied that such mass
immigration is taking place, however.
"We've seen no lineups beyond the usual requests for visas to visit
Canada," he said in Ottawa Thursday.
Still, political pressures have already convinced several professors
to leave better-paying jobs in the US in favour of McGill.
Chief among them is Islamic Studies professor Rula Abisaab. Abisaab,
an American citizen, Yale University graduate and former professor at
the University of Akron, Ohio, never imagined leaving the US until her
son began to feel uncomfortable in school owing to his Lebanese
background.
"You had to be on the defensive every time you critiqued the
government," she said. "It became quite suffocating."
Her experiences led her to the conclusion that she could not raise her
children in a country where the main civil institutions are restricted
from criticizing the government. In 2002, Abisaab's name was added to
a since-withdrawn blacklist of "terrorist apologists" at Daniel
Pipes's 
www.campus-watch.org
, a project which, according to its
mission statement, "reviews and critiques Middle East studies in North
America, with an aim to improving them."
"I feel ashamed because I did not deserve [the blacklisting]," Abisaab
said.
Pipes is Bush's appointee to the US Institute of Peace and the
co-author of the International Studies in Higher Education Act, which
directs the Secretary of Education to investigate "communities that
include speakers of languages that are critical to the national
security of the United States."
Islamic Studies professor Michelle Hartman also left the US partly for
political reasons. She noted that teaching in any politically
sensitive field is becoming more difficult under the present
administration and within the current political environment.
"The atmosphere on the campus I was teaching on after September 11,
2001, was extremely racist," she said, adding that working in Canada
has made her life easier.
Nevertheless, Hartman is skeptical that Bush's win will lead to a
dramatic exodus to Canada, citing better academic staff pay at
American universities.
"People talk about leaving the US all the time, but whether that will
happen [is doubtful]," she said.
Todd Zickler, professor of electrical engineering at Harvard
University, is one professor who will almost certainly remain in the
US despite his disagreement with many government policies. However, he
observed that his attitude could change.
"Once I have children who reach school age, it will be difficult to
stay here," he said.
Other professors have shown a greater willingness to emigrate to
Canada, though many are reluctant to go on the record for fear of
academic ostracism, loss of job security, or green card ineligibility.
For Ray Fisman, an economics professor at Columbia University, Bush's
victory has increased his interest in relocating to Canada.
"I'll think a little bit harder about it in light of recent events,"
he said. "It is a kinder, gentler society."
Fisman also said, however, that McGill cannot match Columbia's
resources.
Several professors did mention friends in US academia actively
pursuing jobs in Canada, especially in political fields, while all
indicated the present unavailability of well-paying positions. But
with McGill's drive to hire 100 new professors over the next two
years, appointments may become easier to acquire for those seeking
residency outside the US.

 sono troppo fiducioso.
IMHO c'entra la crescita delle universita' asiatiche piu' che quella 
delle europee che, a quanto leggo in giro soffrono anzi purtroppo un 
discreto declino.
Palmiro Pangloss
-- 
Happy ever after in the marketplace...
(Lennon & McCartney)

 (Lennon & McCartney)
Leggi male.Secondo la classifica dell'anno scorso subito dopo le prime 
tre o quattro americane venivano Oxford e Cambridge, alcune Francesi e 
Tedesche, poi una Cinese, ecc... Statistiche pubblicate dal Guardian, ma 
votate dalle universita' stesse... Preoccupati magari del declino di 
quelle Italiane...
A.

 Leggi male.Secondo la classifica dell'anno scorso subito dopo le prime 
Da un'indagine ONU di anno scorso citata dal, preoccupato, Economist lo 
scorso Gennaio o Febbraio nelle prima 40 le uniche due europee erano 
Oxford e Cambridge, la terza europea era mooolto dopo un bel po' di 
americane e asiatiche.
Palmiro Pangloss
-- 
"We're surrounded. That simplifies the problem."
- Lt. Gen. Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC