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Titolo: War's Iraqi Death Toll Tops 50,000 (LA Times)

Tanto per mettere le cose in chiaro. E' anche probabile che siano molte 
di piu' come spiega l'articolo.
Am.
http://tinyurl.com/f3nsc
War's Iraqi Death Toll Tops 50,000
Higher than the U.S. estimate, the tally likely is undercounted. 
Proportionately, it is as if 570,000 Americans were slain in three years.
By Louise Roug and Doug Smith, Times Staff Writers
 June 25, 2006
BAGHDAD ‹ At least 50,000 Iraqis have died violently since the 2003 
U.S.-led invasion, according to statistics from the Baghdad morgue, the 
Iraqi Health Ministry and other agencies ‹ a toll 20,000 higher than 
previously acknowledged by the Bush administration.
Many more Iraqis are believed to have been killed but not counted 
because of serious lapses in recording deaths in the chaotic first year 
after the invasion, when there was no functioning Iraqi government, and 
continued spotty reporting nationwide since.
 The toll, which is mostly of civilians but probably also includes some 
security forces and insurgents, is daunting: Proportionately, it is 
equivalent to 570,000 Americans being killed nationwide in the last 
three years.
 In the same period, at least 2,520 U.S. troops have been killed in Iraq.
Iraqi officials involved in compiling the statistics say violent deaths 
in some regions have been grossly undercounted, notably in the troubled 
province of Al Anbar in the west. Health workers there are unable to 
compile the data because of violence, security crackdowns, electrical 
shortages and failing telephone networks. 
The Health Ministry acknowledged the undercount. In addition, the 
ministry said its figures exclude the three northern provinces of the 
semi-autonomous region of Kurdistan because Kurdish officials do not 
provide death toll figures to the government in Baghdad.
In the three years since Saddam Hussein's regime was toppled, the Bush 
administration has rarely offered civilian death tolls. Last year, 
President Bush said he believed that "30,000, more or less, have died as 
a result of the initial incursion and the ongoing violence against 
Iraqis." 
Nongovernmental organizations have made estimates by tallying media 
accounts; The Times attempted to reach a comprehensive figure by 
obtaining statistics from the Baghdad morgue and the Health Ministry and 
checking those numbers against a sampling of local health departments 
for possible undercounts.
 The Health Ministry gathers numbers from hospitals in the capital and 
the outlying provinces. If a victim of violence dies at a hospital or 
arrives dead, medical officials issue a death certificate. Relatives 
claim the body directly from the hospital and arrange for a speedy 
burial in keeping with Muslim beliefs. 
If the morgue receives a body ‹ usually those deemed suspicious deaths ‹ 
officials there issue the death certificate. 
Health Ministry officials said that because death certificates are 
issued and counted separately, the two data sets are not overlapping.
The Baghdad morgue received 30,204 bodies from 2003 through mid-2006, 
while the Health Ministry said it had documented 18,933 deaths from 
"military clashes" and "terrorist attacks" from April 5, 2004, to June 
1, 2006. Together, the toll reaches 49,137. 
******However, samples obtained from local health departments in other 
provinces show an undercount that brings the total well beyond 50,000. 
The figure also does not include deaths outside Baghdad in the first 
year of the invasion.*******
The documented cases show a country descending further into violence. 
At the Baghdad morgue, the vast majority of bodies processed had been 
shot execution-style. Many showed signs of torture ‹ drill holes, burns, 
missing eyes and limbs, officials said. Others had been strangled, 
beheaded, stabbed or beaten to death.
The morgue records show a predominantly civilian toll; the hospital 
records gathered by the Health Ministry do not distinguish between 
civilians, combatants and security forces. 
But Health Ministry records do differentiate causes of death. Almost 75% 
of those who died violently were killed in "terrorist acts," typically 
bombings, the records show. The other 25% were killed in what were 
classified as military clashes. A health official described the victims 
as "innocent bystanders," many shot by Iraqi or American troops, in 
crossfire or accidentally at checkpoints. 
 With the entire country a battleground, it is likely that some of the 
dead may have been insurgents or members of militias. 
 "The way to think about the violence is that it's not just the 
insurgent attacks that matter," said David Lake, a member of the Center 
for Study of Civil War, an international group of scholars who study the 
causes and effects of internal strife. "What we should be concerned 
about is the sense of security at the individual levelŠ. If the fear has 
gotten out of control."
Societies fall apart when people stop believing the government can keep 
them safe them and instead turn to militias for protection, said Lake, 
who is a professor of political science at UC San Diego.

deaths
*MORTI VIOLENTE*.
-Stefano

 beheaded, stabbed or beaten to death.
Conflitti a fuoco che non esistevano prima dell'intervento angloamericano.
Giova notare che nel caos del primo anno di guerra, Lancet rimane 
attendibile per default, essendo stata l'unica a basare i suoi dati su 
interviste reali ai familiari dei morti, sia pur limitate.
Dovendo rifiutare la realta' al pirla mononeurone non rimane piu' che 
attaccarsi agli incidenti stradali de La Padania per descrivere l'Irak, 
il che la dice lunga sugli abissi di fesseria, a cui lo costringe la 
sua coda di paglia.
Bleah!
Am.

sua coda di paglia.
...disse il *FESSO MONONEURONE*... :)
-Stefano

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Am.

A quelle che avresti scritto tu, se indovinavano il futuro.
Certo, certo... :)
*pat pat*
Ora vai a spiegare agli iracheni che con Saddam nessuno moriva di morte
violenza.
-Stefano

 -Stefano
Pensi forse con i tuoi *pat pat* di potere giustificare l'invasione di 
un paese sovrano che tra embargo e guerra avra' perso sulle 200.000 
persone (in incidenti stradali)...
Piu' che di maiale qui bisognerebbe parlare di avvoltoio...
Am.

Piu' che di maiale qui bisognerebbe parlare di avvoltoio...
...disse l'avvoltoio che afferma che sotto Saddam nessuno moriva di
morte violenta...
-Stefano

 morte violenta..
Mai detto. Che fai vuoi mettermi a covare altrui uova? Mica sono un 
cuculo, fesso di periferia...
Ma Saddam almeno non prometteva di portare la democrazia...
Una democrazia di morti. Non a caso pare che siano in 600,000 ad aver 
emigrato dall'Irak...
Roba coloniale, che piace agli emuli di Graziani. Anche lui portava la 
civilta' con la mitragliatrice, e otteneva quelle cifre. 
Am.

Non a caso pare che siano in 600,000 ad aver emigrato dall'Irak...
Certo, certo... :)
*pat pat*
-Stefano

 -Stefano
Gli si e' rotto qualcosa dentro... Non lo riconosco piu'...
Am.

Gli si e' rotto qualcosa dentro... 
...disse il *FESSO MONONEURONE*... :)
-Stefano