Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Egitto: assalto a monastero copto. Video

Video che mostra l'assalto di pochi giorni fa da parte dell'esercito 
egiziano ad un  monastero copto che aveva costruito alcune barriere per 
proteggersi dai saccheggi
http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2011/02/egyptian-army-fires-on-coptic.html
Father Hemanot Ava Bishoy said the army fired live ammunition and RPGs 
continuously for 30 minutes, which hit part of the ancient fence inside 
the monastery. "The army was shocked to see the monks standing there 
praying 'Lord have mercy' without running away. This is what really 
upset them," he said. "As the soldiers were demolishing the gate and the 
fence they were chanting 'Allahu Akbar' and 'Victory, Victory'."

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Al Qaradawi "decision maker", esercito che spara contro monasteri, i pochi
liberali silenziati e cacciati dai palchi di manifestazioni che celebrano
la loro vittoria... 
Com'era facile comprendere, in Egitto non esiste nessuna situazione
pre-democratica (ed è tutto da vedere che esista una domanda popolare di
libertà). 
Proprio per questo le forze democratiche e liberali andrebbero sostenute,
perché non vengano schiacciate nella tenaglia tra esercito e
fondamentalisti.
Certo la situazione del nostro mondo, rende difficile comprendere la
differenza e le sfide di una situazione che ha poco a che vedere con le
rivoluzioni sognate in una nebbiosa gioventù 
Ecco perché dobbiamo ascoltare idioti autocentrati come Rampini.
-- 
recoil is insignificant when there is a tiger on the head of your elephant

 Al Qaradawi "decision maker"
Donde trai questa impressione?
-- 
Namib
"Lo spirito della valle non muore" (“Tao Tê Ching”, VI, 1)

 Donde trai questa impressione?
Credo sia incocciato nella 'twittata' sbajata. E' come
coi pistacchi, ogni tot capita quello un po' andato.
F.
-- 
"Parliamo di Gnech. Che la sua doppiezza sia studiata ne
dubito, ma che si tratti di doppiezza è riscontrabile
da ciò che scrive." (Persio su it.politica.internazionale)
http://flaneurotic.wordpress.com/

 Credo sia incocciato nella 'twittata' sbajata. 
No, sono incocciato in un articolo postato da Namib, che evidentemente ha
mancato di leggere quello che stava sotto il titolo.
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 mancato di leggere quello che stava sotto il titolo.
L'art. NON diceva che Al Qaradawi fosse il decision-maker, ma che tale 
era l'opinione di Efraim Halevy, ex-capo del Mossad; ma Tariq Alhomayed, 
continuava sostenendo che tale opinione è errata, e spiegando perché. 
Forse non l'hai letto tutto.
http://www.aawsat.com/english/news.asp?section=2&id=24305
Israel to negotiate with al-Qaradawi?
26/02/2011
The above title is not meant to arouse excitement, nor is this a joke 
currently doing the rounds, but rather this is a proposal put forward by 
former Mossad chief Efraim Halevy, who has called on Israeli Prime 
Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to open a dialogue with Sheikh Yusuf 
al-Qaradawi. Halevy proposed this after al-Qaradawi gave his most recent 
Friday sermon in Cairo, and perhaps even after al-Qaradawi issued a 
fatwa calling on the people of Libya to kill Colonel Gaddafi.
It seems that the Israelis believe that al-Qaradawi has become a 
decision-maker in Egypt and the Arab world, believing that he has become 
the Supreme Guide of the [Sunni] Islamic world.
L'art. poi prosegue. Forse tu eri arrivato fin qui.
This plays down or indeed ignores the reality of the situation, and the 
Muslim Brotherhood long ago clarified their position with regards to 
dealing with Israel, and they only use Israel to mobilize the Arab 
street, or blackmail Arab regimes, including the former Egyptian regime. 
Therefore, how can we explain the Muslim Brotherhood's statements 
following the ousting of the Hosni Mubarak regime? Commenting on the 
Camp David Agreement, one Muslim Brotherhood group member stated that 
there is no disagreement, or criticism of the peace agreement between 
Egypt and Israel [on the part of the Muslim Brotherhood]. This agreement 
has been signed and so it is binding. This was the public position of 
the Muslim Brotherhood after Mubarak stepped down, and this of course, 
is nothing more than political hypocrisy.
If the Israelis believe that Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi's sermon last 
Friday in Egypt was evidence of his influence and popularity then they 
are mistakenly reading the situation in the country, for he is merely 
jumping on the bandwagon, and this is something that many components of 
Egyptian society are aware of. Whereas if the former Mossad chief's call 
for dialogue with Sheikh al-Qaradawi is based upon the Sheikh's fatwa 
calling for the death of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, then this is also 
impulsive, for what positions has al-Qaradawi taken against Gaddafi over 
the past decade? For Gaddafi has been a friend of Sheikh al-Qaradawi, 
and indeed the Al Jazeera television channel, over the years. Through a 
simple search of the YouTube video-sharing website, one will find that 
the Qatari Al Jazeera television channel is the Arab television channel 
which most broadcasts Gaddafi's speeches and interviews. This is 
something that Al Jazeera has done for a long period of time; granting 
Gaddafi air-time to attack whoever he wants, and say whatever he likes. 
Where was Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi during this period, especially as 
Colonel Gaddafi is not a new member of the dictator's club, but has 
ruled Libya for 42 years?
Of course, what has happened in the past does not mean that we reject 
the issue of Israel opening dialogue with Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, for 
first and foremost this is up to him, and he is in the best position to 
decide this for himself. Rather, what is meant by this article is to 
clarify the situation for the readers, for it seems that the disciples 
of the Muslim Brotherhood and the students of Sheikh al-Qaradawi, have 
become bolder these days, especially after what happened in Egypt, and 
following the fatwa of their Sheikh calling for the assassination of 
Gaddafi. They consider this [the assassination of Gaddafi] to be a moral 
act, as if the law imposed upon the Arab world is a life for a life, and 
a crime for a crime! It is as there are no courts where the accused can 
be brought to justice, whether we are talking about ordinary people or 
leaders. We have never heard of cases being brought to court giving 
people permission to kill somebody, this is a completely new and 
unprecedented issue!
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 Al Qaradawi "decision maker", esercito che spara contro monasteri,
nil novi. Anche l'"attentato" di un mese fa era roba di regime.