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Titolo: nahum? Rabbi: Non-Believing Soldiers Die

è vero cio' che dice il rabbino? sei d'accordo? 
 
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JERUSALEM - An influential and outspoken Israeli rabbi has said Israeli
soldiers died in battle because they were not ritually observant Jews,
sparking outrage in Israel.
Ovadia Yosef, a highly respected religious scholar among Jews of Middle
Eastern descent and the spiritual leader of the ultra-Orthodox Shas
political movement, made the remarks on Saturday night during his weekly
televised sermon.
"Is it any wonder if, heaven forbid, soldiers are killed in a war?" he
said, "when they don't observe the Sabbath, they don't observe the Torah,
they don't pray every day, they don't put on phylacteries every day. Is it
any wonder that they're killed? It's no wonder."
 
His remarks were quickly denounced by bereaved parents of fallen Israeli
soldiers, both observant and secular, and by lawmakers across the
political spectrum.
"I think all the citizens of the country understand that these words are
outrageous," said Zevulun Orlev, a lawmaker from an Orthodox Jewish
hardline National Religious Party. "Any attempt to harm the bereaved
families and the soldiers of Israel is unacceptable and unforgivable."
Ran Cohen, a lawmaker from the dovish Meretz party called Yosef's speech
"foolish words" by a "primitive man."
Eli Yishai, a Cabinet minister and head of the Shas party, said Yosef was
"misunderstood" and had no intention of offending Israeli soldiers or
their families. He said the rabbi would soon issue a clarification.
Yosef, 86, is no stranger to controversy and is renowned for his tirades
against Israeli politicians.
In 2000, he called the Dovish politician Yossi Sarid "Satan," adding, "may
his memory be wiped out. He must be uprooted from the seed of Israel."
He called for then-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to be struck down by
illness after Israel's withdrawal from the Gaza Strip and removal of its
settlers in 2005. Sharon suffered a debilitating stroke in January 2006
and has been in a coma ever since.
Yosef also called Hurricane Katrina "God's retribution" against President
Bush for supporting Israel's withdrawal of settlers from Gaza.
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 è vero cio' che dice il rabbino?
no. infatti ha già ritrattato.
quelli come te dovrebbero tenerselo buono, quello lì, ha lasciato
intendere più di una volta che terra in cambio di pace si potrebbe
fare.
Invece chi vuole uno Stato laico, tipo il Likud, non lo può proprio
vedere
Lo vedi come è complicata la politica di Israele?

 Ovadia Yosef,
ARGH 

 vedere
la questione della laicità non coincide con quella di quale e quanta
terra debba avere Israele...ci può essere gente che pensa che sia
giusto uno stato binazionale ma governato da rabbini e imam e gente
che pensa che Israele debba cacciare chi non fa il servizio militare
ma vuole uno stato esteso fino all'Eufrate....
PS: vota Hadash!

 la questione della laicità non coincide
parla di quel che conosci

 parla di quel che conosci
se voti Hadash taccio per sempre...intanto vorrei una tua opinione
sull'editoriale di Burston...siete abbastanza uomini per fare la pace?