Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: I Palestinesi vogliono che si liberi un terrorista. di 18 mesi d'eta'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5122056.stm
For Walid al-Houdaly, 46, the capture of an Israeli soldier by
Palestinian militants offers the opportunity that his wife and their
18-month-old child will be freed from prison.
The Palestinian militant factions who kidnapped Cpl Gilad Shalit on
Sunday - including the Izzedine al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing
of the ruling Hamas party - have called for the release of all
Palestinian women and children held in Israeli prisons in return for
news on the missing soldier.
Israel is believed to have about 100 women and 300 under-18s among the
more than 8,000 Palestinian prisoners in its jails.
Like many Palestinians, Mr Houdaly believes that the world is focussing
on the fate of one Israeli soldier when thousands of Palestinians have
been imprisoned or detained in what they regard as their fight for
independence.
"There is one soldier, but there have been hundreds of Palestinians
kidnapped from their houses," says the writer, referring in part to his
wife who he says was dragged from their Ramallah home by Israeli
soldiers early one morning.
"If the world protests about the kidnapping of one soldier, why don't
they protest about the Palestinians that have been kidnapped in the
last 10 years," Mr Houdaly adds, sitting in his Ramallah office with
books scattered across his desk.
Mr Houdaly says his wife, Ataf, 44, headed a women's organisation
dedicated to providing health services for poor Palestinians.
But for the last seven months, Mr Houdaly says, she has been held in
Israeli prison under administration detention - imprisonment without
charge.
The mother went on a 16-day hunger strike before the Israeli prison
authorities allowed her baby Aesha to be brought to stay with her, in
the jail, Mr Houdaly says.
It is women and children such as Ataf and Aesha that the militant
factions would like to see released.
But the Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has warned that Israel would
not allow itself to become the victim of "Hamas' terrorist blackmail".
"The question of freeing [Palestinian] prisoners is in no way on the
Israeli government agenda," Mr Olmert said during a speech in
Jerusalem.
"There will be no negotiations, no bargaining, no agreements."
But the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers in return for the release of
Palestinians is nothing new.
Israel has always vowed to bring home its soldiers and civilians,
whether dead or alive, making kidnapping a top priority for many its
enemies.
In 2004, Israel released 429 Palestinian and Lebanese prisoners and
returned the bodies of 59 in return for the release of one Israeli and
the bodies of three of its dead.
But Palestinian militants have rarely been successful in kidnapping
Israeli soldiers.
The last time was in 1994, when Palestinian militants seized
19-year-old Arial Nachson. The soldier was killed with his three
captors during a rescue operation by Israeli Special Forces.
Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails are an emotive issue for the
majority of families in the occupied Palestinian territories, says
George Jiacaman, a political science professor at the West Bank's
Birzeit University.
"Since the political process between the Palestinians and the Israelis
is dead, many Palestinians think that the only way to get prisoners
from jail is through some kind of exchange," he says.
Mr Houdaly knows more than most about imprisonment.
Apart from his wife, Mr Houdaly was himself jailed for 12 years for
being a political organiser.
He has also written a non-fiction book The Grave of Lives, documenting
the experiences of some Palestinian prisoners.
More than most Mr Houdaly wants his wife and daughter to return to his
home - and Cpl Shalit to return to his family.

 last 10 years,"
ma è chiaro. Per la potenza della lobby ebraica.
.

 
Il solito *COGLIONE* del Torrieri che manco legge le notizie che cita
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The mother went on a 16-day hunger strike before the Israeli prison
authorities allowed her baby Aesha to be brought to stay with her, in
the jail, Mr Houdaly says.
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Cioe' la donna ha fatto uno sciopero della fame di 16 giorni PER AVERE
CON SE IN PRIGIONE SUO FIGLIO.
-Stefano

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luno...@hotmail.com
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Eh, ma Torrieri sa che qualche bambino va pure sacrificato, se si vuole
arrivare alla vittoria finale.
(torrieri da bambino, si prepara alla festa di carnevale
http://img.blog.tiscali.it/allegati/naz/7201/_2627339.jpg
)

Questo Diudonne M'Bala M'Bala, dal'articolo, sembra simpatico.   A
differenza dei cartoni contro Maometto, sara' politically incorrect ma
dietro la provocazione c'e anche talento.
http://www.bnaibrith.ca/article.php?id=569
Controversial French comic put on notice
Posted On 07/22/04
By: Mike Cohen
MONTREAL - In the 22-year history of Montreal's internationally
famous Just For Laughs Festival, concerns regarding antisemitism and a
peformer have never surfaced. That all changed last week when B'nai
Brith Canada put French comic Dieudonne M'Bala M'Bala, best known
simply as "Dieudonne." on notice.
Dieudonne, who performed in Montreal three times in the last week,
gained notoriety and the ire of world Jewry when he raised a Nazi
salute while dressed as an Orthodox Jew on a live television program in
France last year. Despite being acquitted in Paris in May of charges of
racial defamation, he was convicted of the same charge in Avignon in a
separate case in which he had accused Jews, in comments published in
the newspaper Le Monde, of "organizing a very strong lobby and taking
control of the media."
The intent of B'nai Brith's intervention was to alert festival
organizers about Dieudonne's past improprieties and for them to be
prepared to take action if any antisemitic material appeared in his
act. Festival executives had responded earlier to a letter from B'nai
Brith claiming that the comic's humour would further interreligious
understanding.
Just for Laughs reacted to the media onslaught brought on by B'nai
Brith last Wednesday by calling a press conference. Dieudonne told a
large assembly of media that he is misunderstood by Jewish interest
groups. He defended himself as "a humanist and universalist" who
doesn't believe in ethnic or religious distinctions. He insisted he
is anything but a racist.
"I'm a comic," the 38-year-old performer said . "I know my
style can shock, but that's my right - the right to blaspheme. My
job is to make people laugh, yes, about sensitive subjects ... and
sometimes that can touch sentiments in the community that have been
exacerbated by difficult times. But I'm just doing my job as a
comic."
Yoni Petel, B'nai Brith's community relations director in Quebec,
showed up at the press conference.
"Essentially Dieudonne and Festival President Gilbert Rozon were
there to promote the show," said Petel. " However, unlike past
similar events, this time the media present were not arts and culture
reporters, but the news people. It was obvious that the PR guys were
somewhat uncomfortable by this. We are not, nor were we ever, asking
that the show be cancelled - we are merely seeking assurances that
the show will not cross the line. Canada has a very specific legal
framework, as well as a charter of rights, that prevent inciting hatred
against minority groups and we want to ensure that the Festival -
which is an important cultural landmark here in Montreal - is not
used as a platform for hate speech."
Dieudonne has been charged numerous times in French courts for inciting
hatred and has even been convicted on more than one occasion. While
most of those convictions have been overturned on appeal, there is
still a standing conviction against him and his appeal is before the
courts now. His shows have been cancelled many times in Europe, and in
some instances such as a show he was supposed to perform in Geneva, he
was only allowed to take the stage after signing a pledge not to incite
hatred during his show. "We have repeatedly asked for a meeting with
festival organizers, but they have so far refused to meet with us."
said Petel. " Instead they are attempting to play on our legitimate
concerns for the sake of publicity."
B'nai Brith Canada National Legal Counsel Steven Slimovitch attended
Dieudonne's Saturday night performance for the direct purpose of
monitoring it. Dieudonne stayed clear of any antisemitic material.
"If nothing else we succeeded in pointing out that notwithstanding
that comments may be made in a comedic presentation, inciting hatred is
a serious matter," said Slimovitch.
Slimovitch says B'nai Brith was disappointed by the festival's
response to their complaint. "We were shocked with their initial
response to the effect that they did not see anything problematic and
that his show would in fact foster better relations between
minorities," he said. " Now that they have held their press
conference we feel that the festival has been shown just how serious
the matter is. We trust that we have done a service to all minorities
by pointing out that words can in fact hurt And we must all be
cognizant of the protection that must be given to minorities -
inciting hatred even through a comedic sketch can be very hurtful to
the target group, whomever they may be."
The half-Cameroonian, half-Breton Dieudonne notes that he has won all
but one of 17 cases brought against him. His Hitler salute moment came
last December on France 3 TV. He referred to the "American-Zionist
axis of good," raised his arm in the Nazi salute and shouted
"Isra-Heil!" At last week's press conference he called the gag
"burlesque," not anti-Israeli.
In another sketch after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United
States, he mocked Muslim extremists who promise suicide bombers sex
with virgins in the afterlife. He has also castigated Roman Catholics.
"At a time when we too are experiencing dramatic increases in hate
activity in Canada, we question why the festival would invite
Dieudonne," said B'nai Brith Canada Executive Vice-President Frank
Dimant. "Why do we need the importation of French antisemitism into
Canada?"
Rozon said that he has seen Dieudonne, perform several times. He
commented the show is about "nationalism and racism in general ... I
didn't see anything antisemitic about it." He went on to allude to
his 9/11 sketch which he performed in Montreal. "It was replayed on
television to seven million viewers and it did not provoke any negative
reaction," he said.
The Just For Laughs Festival was previously run by a Jew, Andy Nulman
who still serves as a senior consultant. Willie Mercer occupies a
similar role. Jodie Lieberman is the director of programming while
Robbie Praw is the newest member of the head office team.
There are a wide array of Jewish performers each year. Jackie Mason,
Freddy Roman and Bobby Slayton headline this year's list. Roman
anchors the ninth annual Bar Mitzvah Show, which consists exclusively
of Jewish humour.
About B'nai Brith, Dieudonne said the group just claims to speak for
Jews, when in fact no organization can stand for all members of a
community. "I don't believe they represent the Jews of Quebec,"
he said. "Because there are lots of Quebec Jews who have come and
told me 'Bravo! We can't wait to come to your show!"

 dietro la provocazione c'e anche talento.
Ovviamente, se è antisemita ha talento, se è antimussulmano o solo
provocatorio contro i mussulmani è intollerante.
Diudonne è un antisemita.
A parte il colore della pelle sarebbe andato d'accordo con Hitler.
Mirco

 A parte il colore della pelle sarebbe andato d'accordo con Hitler.
Dettaglio irrilevante, eh?
Cosa avrebbe detto, Diudonne, di Antisemita?  L'ho gia' chiesto su
questo NG in passato.
C'era parecchia roba di cattivo gusto, ma nulla di razzista.   Se si
difende il diritto a pubblicare i cartoni contro Maometto, bisogna
farlo anche con gli sketch di Diudonne, no?
GT

 farlo anche con gli sketch di Diudonne, no?
Può scrivere e dire quello che vuole, per me.
Ho solo voluto far notare che non è questo genio che si vuol propagandare.
Mirco

questo NG in passato.
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he was convicted of the same charge in Avignon in a separate case in
which he had accused Jews, in comments published in the newspaper Le
Monde, of “organizing a very strong lobby and taking control of the
media.”
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E dire che era scritto nello stesso articolo da te citato.
Ma d'altronde non saresti il *FESSO* che sei caro Torrieri se ti
prendessi pure la briga di leggerti gli articoli che citi.
-Stefano