Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Four hundred and seventy-eight civilians

 
L'occidente fa paura e' totalmente manipolato e schizoide.
 
Esistono oramai due realta' quella propagandista e la realta' vera.
La copertura mediatica e dettata da politica e militari, abbiamo cosi' sovraesposizioni, e occultamenti.
Per esempio la vicenda del boeing 777 della malaisia airline scomparso nel pacifico ha avuto BBC per circa due settimane.
Con tutta la isteria umanitaria e i musi lunghi in lutto.
 
Poi esistono stragi a cui si dedica un trafiletto in fondo.
Il fattore emotional viene caricato al massimo e il manicheismo spinto a forme di schizofrenia folli, prendete la Putin demonizzazione.
 
Quindi siamo in zona irrazionale sui media, che finiscono per incaprettarsi, sono in crisi di credibilita' e ascolto, meno male che esiste la rete.
 
Si noti che gli Ukies e le loro SS hanno subito pesanti perdite in luglio.
Poroscemo contro qualche milione dei suoi cittadini.
 
 
There has been virtually no Western media coverage concerning this human tragedy.
 
 
The killing of innocent civilians in Eastern Ukraine resulting from the conduct of major bombing and shelling operations by US supported Kiev regime is important.  
 
According to official sources, Four hundred and seventy-eight civilians, including seven children were killed and 1392 were wounded in Eastern Ukraine since the outset of the Kiev government’s military crackdown. (See RT,  July 1o, 2014)
 
The casualty figures were released on the 10th of July 2014 by Ukraine’s Ministry of Health.
 
“The amount on civilian casualties is, unfortunately, greater than the military ones,” Vasily Lazoryshynets, deputy health minister, …
 
“In the area of the operation in eastern Ukraine, 478 civilians have died, including 30 women and seven children,”he said.
 
According to Lazoryshynets , a further 1,392 people were injured in the fighting, with 104 women and 14 children among them.
 
“Two hundred and seventy-nine currently remain in hospital,” he added. (Ibid)
 
There has been virtually no Western media coverage concerning this human tragedy. The deaths of innocent children resulting from Kiev’s “counter-terrorism operation” have been casually categorized as “collateral damage”.
 
In early June, according to figures of Ukraine’s National Security Council “200 soldiers and law enforcement officers had been killed and over 600 injured during the so-called “anti-terrorist operation.” (Ibid). The Ministry of Defense reported the same figure of 200 deaths pertaining to soldiers on July 11. 
 
Is the official count of civilian casualties reliable? On June 11, following the release of the figures on casualties by the Ministry of Health, Ukraine’s General Prosecutor Vitali Yarema confirmed that the government was to establish a data bank of persons killed and insured:
 
“Every death, every physical injury, every body of an unidentified individual found will be entered into the unified register of pre-trial investigations, and each case will be investigated as much as possible,”  (quoted by AP, July 11, 2014)
 
The above figures on civilian casualties are consistent with a ‘leaked” Ministry of Internal Affairs report (July 15, 2014): 496 civilians killed and 762 wounded (updated with data of casualties collected in the period extending from 9-15 July). (see below)
 
According to this “leaked” MIA document, the death toll of soldiers in the Ukraine Armed Forces would have increased from 200 in early July (reported on July 10th by the Ministry of Health) to 1600 in mid-July (MIA, leaked report, see table below, dated July 15). These rounded up figures suggest that the Kiev government’s figures on soldiers “killed in action” are rough estimates.
 
The table below which includes the figures of civilian and military casualties included those wounded reported by the Ministry of Internal Affairs (sent to Global Research by a source in Ukraine) are as follows:
 
Killed in Action: 1600
Wounded in Action: 4723
The Ministry of Internal Affairs (MIA) and its Anti-Terrorism Organization (ATO) oversees the military operation in Lugansk and Donetsk in liaison with the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
 
The information was officially released on July 15, 2014 bearing the signature of the Arsen Avakov (Minister of Internal Affairs) and V. Gritsak (Head of ATO [Anti-Terrorism Organization]
 
The authenticity, reliability and source of this leaked report remains to be fully assessed. These figures have not been made public and they are not the object of media commentary. They are, however, compatible with a report published by the Central News Agency Novorossia, Novorus.info (Russian) based on figures of the rebel Donbass forces which point to major military losses by the Kiev regime.
 
The MIA figures pertain to soldiers “Killed in Action”. They do not address the number of soldiers taken prisoner and/or the number of soldiers who have deserted the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
 
In contrast, the Novorossia figures do not provide a breakdown of  “killed, wounded, prisoners”. According to Central News Agency Novorossia, Novorus.info (Russian):
 
Total losses in Donbass inflicted to Kiev “punitive operatives” [in Russian каратели] 2 May – 11 July 2014  is 4994 soldiers [ in Russian persons, человек] [killed, wounded, prisoners]
 
What the MIA leaked report as well as the Novorossia figures convey is the conduct of a large scale military operation by Ukrainian Forces resulting in significant casualties incurred by Kiev government forces. None of this has been reported by the corporate media.
 
The leaked MIA report suggests heavy losses of military equipment by Kiev forces including a large number of tanks and armored vehicles which have either been captured or destroyed.
 
The rebels (according to MIA figures) have downed seven aircraft. This information was “leaked” 2 days before the MH17 crash. The reliability of these figures emanating from government sources remained to be determined.
 
The data from rebel sources cited Novorus.info also indicate sizable losses of military hardware including tanks and armored cars.
 
TOTAL UKRAINIAN LOSSES  [MIA leaked document]
 
Killed in Action: 1600
Wounded in Action: 4723
Tanks: 35
Armoured Battle Vehicles: 96
Artillery: 38
Aircraft: 7
Helicopters: 2
Automobiles: 104
While the reliability of these figures emanating from the government remains to be determined, they nonetheless point to the failure of the Kiev led anti-terrorism operation confirming earlier reports to the effect that government forces have been repealed in Donetsk and Lugansk.
 
July 18, 2014 – Official Ukrainian Military Accounting of Losses for July 9-15, 2014
((1) Ukrainian Version; (2) Translation)
 
BREAKING!
 
TOTAL UKRAINIAN LOSSES
 
Killed in Action: 1600
Wounded in Action: 4723
Tanks: 35
Armoured Battle Vehicles: 96
Artillery: 38
Aircraft: 7
Helicopters: 2
Automobiles: 104
TOTAL MILITIA LOSSES
 
Killed in Action: 48
Wounded in Action: 64
Tanks: 2
Armoured Battle Vehicles: 0
Artillery: 5
Automobiles: 8
TOTAL CIVILIAN LOSSES
 
Killed: 496
Wounded: 762
SIGNED & SUBMITTED BY: Arsen Avakov (Minister of Internal Affairs) and V. Gritsak (Head of ATO)
 

 L'occidente fa paura e' totalmente manipolato e schizoide.
 
Blood, rack, barbed wire
Politicians' funeral pyre
Innocents raped with napalm fire
Twenty first century schizoid man!

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Anche a me piacevano i King Crimson, ma purtroppo i sionisti mi hanno rubato i dischi, e comunque sotto l'illuminato e laico governo di Hamas non si possono sentire in pubblico 
 
 
 

 Anche a me piacevano i King Crimson, ma purtroppo i sionisti mi hanno rubato i dischi
 
chi ascolta sia Little Tony che i KC non merita solo il sequestro dei dischi, ma l'internamento immediato per schizofrenia....:D

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Non disperarti ti mando gli MP3
Poi vai di nascosto la sera nei tunnels
 
Profetico   Twenty first century schizoid man! 
 
Domanda al contadino se mi manda una cassa di pompelmi, arrivo in zona appena finiscono col rito sacro.