Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: non era al Qa'ida

Perché stampa e tg italiani non riportno la notizia che al Qa'ida ha negato
di essere coinvolta nella strage della Ashura? Di solito gli attentati sono
immediatamente rivendicati, perché in questo caso ciň non accade?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3530577.stm
Al-Qaeda denial - statement excerpts 
A letter purporting to come from al-Qaeda denied on Wednesday any role in
anti-Shia explosions in Iraq that killed scores of people. 
The letter, signed "Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades (al-Qaeda)", was sent to the
London-based al-Quds al-Arabi newspaper. Following are key excerpts: 
Today a great misfortune has happened and is part of the US conspiracy to
ignite the fire of sedition between the Muslims in Iraq. The US forces
today perpetrated a massacre to kill the innocent Shias in their polytheist
city of Karbala and in Baghdad. 
The Americans are trying to attribute these actions to the mujahideen of
al-Qaeda who have inflicted pain and suffering on the United States in Iraq
and elsewhere. The United States wants to distort the image of the
mujahideen. 
And we are today telling all Muslims that we disassociate ourselves from
this action and disassociate ourselves from what the Shia Muslims worship
other than Allah. 
So that our aims are clear to everyone, we are striking the American
crusaders and their allies. We are striking the Iraqi police, the agents
and lackeys of the United States and the club with which it is striking the
mujahideen in Iraq. 
We are striking the agents of the United States in the council of unbelief
that is called the Governing Council and the Sunnis and Shias in their
orbit. 
Oh heroic people of Iraq. The mujahideen are a people who love Allah and
His Messenger and only do what pleases Allah, and they do not slay such
life as Allah has made sacred, except for just cause. 
This includes the heretic Shia groups that do not insult the companions of
Muhammad, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, and do not
contravene the Koran and do not tamper with Allah's shari'ah... 
Beware!! The United States wants you to help it against the mujahideen and
the mujahideen want you to turn the tables against it and to declare war on
the United States. 
Come on, rise with your brother mujahideen against the idol of the age, the
United States... 
BBC Monitoring , based in Caversham in southern England, selects and
translates information from radio, television, press, news agencies and the
Internet from 150 countries in more than 70 languages. 
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/middle_east/3530577.stm
Published: 2004/03/03 18:30:56 GMT

on the United States in Iraq
Se e' di Al-Qaida allora dimostra che
1) Al-Qaida esiste.
2) Al-Qaida opera in Iraq.
-Stefano

 2) Al-Qaida opera in Iraq.
A rigore, dimostra solo la prima delle due cose. Che nessuno ha mai messo
in dubbio. la lettera afferma- e non dimostra- che in questo caso AQ NON ha
operato. Non dimostra in alcun modo che abbia operato in diversa occasione.

Non dimostra in alcun modo che abbia operato in diversa occasione.
La lettera afferma che ha operato in diversa occasione.  Se quindi e'
vera l'affermazione che non sono stati loro questa volta e' altrettanto
vera quella che afferma che hanno gia' operato in altri casi.
-Stefano

 vera quella che afferma che hanno gia' operato in altri casi.
In base a quale regola della logica? Ti trovo un po' bollito, Ste'. Io
posso rivendicare l'assassinio di Kennedy, cio' non vuol dire che sia stato
davvero io.

sia stato davvero io.
E che ca**o c'entra questo esempio?
Dopotutto tu puoi anche dire di non essere l'assassino di Kennedy e
invece essere stato davvero tu.
-Stefano

>Se non lo e', allora e' solo carta straccia :)
ROTFL!

> Dimostra entrambe le cose.
ROTFL!