Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: [contagio democratico] Se le tre svolte continuano a svoltare...

 three tipping points tipped, it will be incredible.
Be' vediamo come vanno a finire i tipping points dell'Iran e della Siria.
Forse bisognera' mandar loro un *esercito* di psicologi americani. 
Sicuramente costerebbero di meno all'erario USA del'alternativa 
missilistca
Am.

 missilistca.
Alla corrente quotazione delle cure psichiatriche, ne dubito.
Tb
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 Tb
Ti sei informato sul tuo conto?
BWAHAHA...
(Scusami ma era irresistibile)
Am.

 (Scusami ma era irresistibile)
Prego, ci sentiamo la prossima settimana alle stessa ora.
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Non è Condi Rice.
No, e' Walid Jumblatt.
Ha anche detto due mesi fa:
We are all happy when U.S. soldiers are killed [in Iraq] week in and
week out. The killing of U.S. soldiers in Iraq is legitimate and
obligatory.
Ancora meglio, i tuoi beniamini a MEMRI
( 
http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP46603
 )
lo cita(va)no:
The oil axis is present in most of the U.S. administration, beginning
with its president, vice-president and top advisers, including Rice,
who is oil-colored, while the axis of Jews is present with Paul
Wolfowitz, the leading hawk who is inciting (America) to occupy and
destroy Iraq.
Come cambiano in fretta, le simpatie, in politica :-/

http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2005/02/not-seen-in-coverage-of-lebanon-armed.html
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2005/02/this-is-also-taking-place-in-lebanon.html
This is also taking place in Lebanon, but the US media and the
Saudi-funded Arab media have not noticed. Armed men take to the streets
in Tripoli. France, Syria, and US are all playing with fire in Lebanon.
Watch out.
...
This is missing from the coverage about Lebanon. In sectarian terms,
the majority of Lebanese are Shi`ites (at least 55 % of the
population). And they are not in the opposition, and their two major
movements (Amal and Hizbullah) are still aligned with Syria, for
whatever reasons. And then there are those who were formed under the
leadership of former prime minister Salim Huss today (he is Sunni)
under the banner of The Third Force (independent from the opposition
and the government alike), and who are a loose coalition of
independents, Arab nationalists, leftists, communists, socialists,
Nasserists, etc. They also are NOT part of the opposition. And even
within Sunni ranks, there is no consensus, and Sunni public opinion has
already expressed disagreement with the right-wing slogans and symbols
of the main elements of the opposition. Amid the euphoria, which the
Bush administration and its submissive US media want to promote to
validate Bush's empty slogans about "freedom" and "democracy", the
reality of Lebanese factionalism and sectarianism is disguised. Chirac
said that the Bush administration opened a pandora's box in Iraq. Angry
Arab says that Chirac himself and Bush have just opened another
pandora's box in...Lebanon. How insulting that the Syrian president
gave his first comments on the Lebanon crisis to...an Italian
newspaper. And how insulting that the US government is treating the
events in Lebanon as if they constitute a victory for the US, for some
reasons. (Look at Lebanese public opinion orientations toward the US
and Bush's wars in the newly released report on Arab public opinion by
Jordan University's Center for Strategic Studies (posted below--I
think). And how insulting that the Lebanese president is doing what he
does best...remaining silent.

 
http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2005/02/this-is-also-taking-place-in-lebanon
.
html
Bellissimo. Finalmente si riesce a vedere questa gladio USA.
Tb
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Trovata questa perla sul giornale conservatore Canadese National Post
(di Murdoch.   Che ovviamente prende questa roba sul serio).
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All are manufactured in TEXAS by TEXANS.
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Why no sales to Canada?
Due to the hatred toward Americans and the American way of life
exhibited by the Canadian government et al, we do not wish to promote
or sell our products and services into Canada.
Until Canada allows the US to fully deploy our North American
Anti-Missile Defense system fully in order to protect BOTH Canada and
the United States, we will not sell across the Canadian border nor
promote our products therein.
Copyright 2004, Weldtron, Inc.   Alice, Texas
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Abbastanza divertente?   Non come il "saggio" scritto altrove dal loro
presidente:
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1352592/posts
I am the majority stockholder and President of the company.
...
Over the past few years I have rejected sales from French Canadians and
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Now I expand this to the whole of Canada. As of today, no technical
information will be given to Canadians and no sales will be made to
Canadians until their hate for Americans and our way of life changes. I
expect Hell will freeze over before this happens. They are in a
headlong race for total Socialism, if not downright communism.
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Ovviamente, non rappresenta il TIPICO idiota a stelle strisce, torta di
mele e Bush.   spero.

Forwardo una lettera che ho scritto (privatamente) in risposta a una
lettera che e' apparsa su un giornale universitario dove lavoro [in
Inglese].
Lo faccio perche (specialmente nell'ultima parte) spiego chiaramente
alcune cosette su cui abbiamo parlato estensivamente qua'.
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Since you gave your email address, I would like to clear up some
misconceptions you have shown in a letter to the McGill daily,
http://www.mcgilldaily.com/view.php?aid=3681
Vanunu
You claim that Mordechai Vanunu is not a "dissident" but a "traitor".
Every authoritarian country, of course, likes to label its dissidents
traitors, and find them guilty of treason in a militarized secret
show-trial.      Vanunu's case was no exception.  He was tried by
secret
military court.  We do not know what the accusation was, what the
proceeding were like, what he said as his defense and why it was turned
down.
What we do know is:
a)  He was kidnapped from Italy, a country with which Israel shares an
    extradition treaty and has full diplomatic relations, in an act
    of international piracy.
    Think what would happen if Iran kidnapps someone in Canada this way
b)  Even after he was released, he continues to face continued
harassment
    from the governament, in good USSR dissident fashion.
    In particular, he is constantly threatened with administrative
    detention, and forbidden to leave country, even through his
adoptive
    parents are American.
c)  The definition of traitor is aiding an enemy governament.
    Vanunu did no such thing.    He did not aid any governament, Israel
    never even accused him of that.
    He gave information he possessed to a newspaper, ie to you and me
the
    public.
    Since this information concerned illegal behaviour by his
governament
    (both in terms of Israeli law and international law), what he did
was
    100% legal.     Once again, imagine how a Whistleblower on the
Iranian
    nuclear program would be treated here in Canada, especially if Iran
    were to kidnap him and try him for "treason" in a secret court.
Israeli Arabs
People often make the claim you made, that "just like Jews, Israeli
Arabs
vote in the Knesset and elect Knesset members".    Have you actually
ever
spoken to one of these Knesset members?   Can you explain why one of
them,
Azmi Bishara, claimed in the World Conference against Racism that
Israel
was an Apartheid State just like South Africa?   You are free to
disagree
with him.   But the fact that he proceeded to be investigated and
tried,
purely for his political activity (sorry, the Orwellian charge is
"seeking
to destroy Israel as a Jewish State") kind of sits uneasy with the
concept
of Israel as a democracy.  Especially since he was not the only one,
every
single Arab Knesset member not from Labour and Likud also underwent
investigations on similar charges.
You claim "Arabs in Israel are discriminated like any other minority in
Canada".   Funny, I don't remember reading about Canadian police
opening
fire with live ammo against an Inuit demonstration at anytime in the
last
fifty years.   Israel's police did that.  In Nazareth, not in the West
Bank.   Many, many times, last one in 2000, on Land day, 11 people
killed.
You might also have a look at the webpage of the Arab Association of
Human
rights, 
http://www.arabhra.org/
(It's about Arab citizens of Israel, NOT 1967 occupied territories)
and ask yourself if similar abuses would happen against any party in
any
other democratic contry.
I am very good friends with the son of one of the founders of this
organization.    He told me how his father started the organization
back
when Nazareth was still under military rule, and how, during these
times,
he was repeatedly placed in Administrative detention (no charge or
trial).
So much for democracy and the absence of discrimination.
PS:  One final unrelated but relevant consideration
(Ie, why am I bothering to write all this)
My mother is Russian, of Jewish origin.   I grew up in the Soviet
Union, and several members of my family
live in Israel.    If I have to say sincerely, today I could say I am
ashamed of being a Jew.
Not because of what Israel is doing, after all I
am not responsible for it.    But the "organized Jewish
community"'s (for want of a better name) attitude of "Wherever I stand,
I
stand with Israel", of identifying with Israel a priori on the basis of
"ethnicity" and defending it no matter what it does, is fascist.
There is no nicer way of putting it, and, if you look up German
and Italian propaganda aimed at, say Americans of Italian and German
descent, you will see I am not using "fascism" as a derogatory term, I
am
using fascism as an analogy to what the fascists 70 years ago were
doing.
Of course, "organized Jewish community" does not mean "every single
Jew",
and true to it's fascist form, the organized Jewish community does it's
damn best to demonize, delegitimate and threaten the many Jewish people
who vocally go outside the ranks.     Examples abound, both locally
(Aaron
Mate' and Yakov Rabkin ring bells?) and worldwide (Vanunu is the best
example of that.  Other examples are too numerous to mention, through
the harassment undergone by ISM founder Adam Shapiro should be
mentioned).
Once again, this stuff is disgusting.  Unfortunately, writing long
rambling letters is, under my circumstances, the best I can do to
combat
it at the moment, but there you go.
GT  (Formerly president, alliance for peace and Justice in the Middle
East, 
http://www.apjme.org
 )

who vocally go outside the ranks.
*ROTFL*
Certo certo caro Torrieri! :)
*pat pat*
Alla tua prossima figura di merda caro Torrieri :)  E' sempre uno spasso
sputtanarti pubblicamente :)
-Stefano