Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Aspetti economici e finanziari del dopoguerra all'Iraq

La acquisizione della Babilonia da parte dell'Impero continua 
ad avere interessanti aspetti economici finanziari, quindi penso
che possa essere di interesse postare la mia collezione di
ritagli del FT, partendo da
venerdi' 13 giugno - non e' giornata per l'Impero del Bene, titolo a
sei colonne "US helicopter downed in round-up of Iraqi
guerrillas"  e' interessante una nota numerica, ovvero
che dalla vittoria imperiale di due mesi fa circa 40 legionari
imperiali ci hanno lasciato le strasse. Notare che non sono ascari 
tipo in Afghanistan che quando schiattava l'alleato del nord
non si prendeva nemmeno due righe in cronaca. 
No no, sono proprio imperiali veri 
"about 40 US troops have been killed in ambushes and attacks".
Ma te guarda, evidentemente non hanno tradotto in linuga locale
l'editto imperiale che dichiarava la guerra vinta.
Anyway sfogliando l'FT (e passando sullo spassosissmo 'US threatens
NATO over Belgium lawsuit' che l'Impero non vuole finanziarie piu' 
il palazzo della alleanza imperiale a Brussels se viene messa
in discussione la impunita' garantita ai suoi legionari) e sorvolando
pure su 
www.ft.com/terror
 si arrivano alle cose serie
TENDER OUT SOON TO RUN IRAQ MOBILE NETWORK
Ovvero che standard per i telefonini imperiali, per gogglare
segnatevi Republican Senator Darrel Issa, concerned that the choice
for postwar Iraq would put European companies in a favoured position
drafted a bill asking for US government to opt for CDMA.
Cosa ridicola.
Qualche dettaglio in piu' lo trovate on line sotto, che pero'
ha lo svantaggio di essere orientato ad una utenza specifica.
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/59/29974.html
Iraq's mobile network - Qualcomm to follow the tanks?
By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco
Posted: 27/03/2003 at 11:48 GMT
And in a flash, the war on terror started to morph into the war for
CDMA. North Korea, watch out - there's a jumping-off point right next
door.
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Questa battuta la si capisce infatti solo sapendo che standard c'e'
in Sud Corea, anche il nome di Qualcomm vi aiutera' a gogglare
su una altra compagnia americana come dire, "legata alla difesa".
Perche' il Darrel Issa e' ridocolo e' presto detto (lo avevo accennato
tempo fa) una rete GSM la puo' costruire la Alcatel, la Ericsson o..
la Motorola
e quindi.... chiaro, se la rete e' GSM l'unico a rimetterci e' la
Qualcomm.
Quindi ci si potrebbe domandare, in che distretto senatoriale ha sede
la Qualcomm?
Ah, giusto per chiudere, indovinate l'unico paese del medioriente che
ha uno
standard diverso dal GSM....  beh, non credo che si pongano i problemi
del roaming :-P
Primo tender di 10m di barili di petrolio, and the winners are (ESP)
Repsol
(ESP) Cepsa (TUR) Tupras (ITA) ENI (FRA) Total (US) ChevronTexaco.
Altro articolo interessante, se vi rimettete dallo spavento della
pagina delle
lettere "there were better ways of spending money than signing
Bechham" said the owner
of AC Milan while on diplomatic trip to Israel" la lettera sul
conflitto di interessi
del cavalier e' decorato da una foto scelta da uno che non gli voleva
bene,
pare il fratello scemo di un tenutario di un bordello.
Ultimo articolo, assai interessante, e' "a crude ped for the Iraqi
dinar".
Infatti c'e' il problema di dargli una moneta alla provincia
imperiale,
dopo aver accennato al disastro originato dal fissare una valuta
locale al dollaro in Argentina l'autore se la cava con un "finally,
imposing the dollar
on Iraq could also feed widespread fears of US imperialism". Ma va'?!
Ma l'Impero del Bene non e' in babilonia per proteggersi
preventivamente
da un attacco con armi di distrazione di massa quali la temibile
panzatrace
o la temibile bomba al panzanio?
Anyway approccio salomonico al problema "define the value of the dinar
as 1/3 of the dollar plus 1/3 of a Euro plus 1/100 of a barrel of oil"
Se volete gogglare sull'argomento usate anche "currency board "
"peg the dinar" "basket peg". 
Fine della archiviazione dei ritagli per questo post.
Ho trovato questi links nel mio HD, giusto per le letture
pomeridiane..
(tutti i link li ho postati nel mio precendente thread che ho mollato)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2950154.stm
Last Updated: Friday, 30 May, 2003, 14:28 GMT 15:28 UK  
Halliburton Iraq contract queried
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2837477.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2884701.stm
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3006149.stm
 
uno spassossimo appalto, davvero
 
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2946207.stm
Last Updated: Monday, 14 April, 2003, 11:30 GMT 12:30 UK  
 US firms win $10m Iraq deals
fin qui niente di nuovo, il bello viene dopo.... ovvero sul cosa lo
hanno vinto:
Two US companies have won  contracts worth a total of
$10m (£6.4m) for  reconstructing Iraqi local government and education.
alcuni tra gli imperiali hanno  anche capacita' telepatiche,
come si apprende in un passo successivo:
[..]
"We want to make sure that  the school system the Iraqis
have will respond to the  democratic system I am sure
they will wish to establish," said  USAID spokesman Alfonso Aguilar. 
Bye

 ha uno standard diverso dal GSM....  
A chi ti riferisci? Spero non ad Israele che ha una rete GSM con piu'
gestori. Vedi 
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_il.shtml
Ciao
Ale
-- 
''If being an eagle is such a good idea, why are there so few of them?''
Wally

could also feed widespread fears of US imperialism". Ma va'?!
Beh, se lo dice l'autore e' sicuramente vero! :))
*ROTFL*
Alle prossime barzellette :)
-Stefano

Unica logica delle notizie, sto ripulendo una pila di giornali
abbandonati
in un angolo ritagliando cio' che colpisce l'attenzione
FINANCIAL TIMES weekend 1/2 March
le notizei migliori sono sempre in fondo, pagina 6
"fuzzy vision of postwar Mideast" L'impero deve
dare fatti e non parole sulla [questione] Israelopalestinese
"US must turn words into action on Israel-Palestine"
contemplare un simile articolo al 15 di Giugno da una dimensione
nuova alla parola fallimento. Altro articolo interessante e' questo
interessante test storico dal titolo "a grand plan to bomb Baghdad and
impose stability on Kirkuk", le idee su come gestire il paese dopo la
caduta di Saddam Hussein preoccupano i centurioni imperiali [military
officers] che dovranno implementarle e anche la opposizione in esilio.
A prescindere che manca l'opinione dell'iracheno in iraq in attesa
di essere liberato o di essere morto come "collateral damages"
l'articolo da una interessante statistica.
Secondo Minxin Pei and Sara Kasper del Carnegie Endowement 
l'Impero ha un rate di successo del 30% nei paesi che va a liberare.
Durante il secolo passato l'Impero ha sostituito 18 regimi a lui non
graditi ma la "democratic rule prevalied only in five countries"
ovvero solo 5 di detti regimi si sono trasformati in democrazie
Germany - Japan - Italy - Panama - Grenada. 4 dei 5 successi
sono multilaterali, l'eccezione e' Panama, (magari si potrebbe fare
un sotto thread per vedere di ricostruire la lista intera)
Dice che la giuria deve ancora decidere sul 18 regime
cambiato dall'Impero, ovvero l'Afghanistan.
FINANCIAL TIMES DEUTSCHLAND del 8  April
Sfogliando un giornale si potrebbe essere distratti dalla foto
in prima pagina di sei legionari imperiali (della 7 Legione di
fanteria)
di cui uno che fuma una sigaretta nei palazzi del vile  imperatore
iracheno - dalla foto a pagina 11 direi 15cm x 25cm almeno
con l'Imperatore ed il suo sorridente poodle Blair a fianco 
che fanno piani per il futuro.. ma come al solito le notizie vere
si trovano nella sezione "Industrie" "US-Autos muessen kuenfitg
sparsamer sein" articolo che descrive un decreto imperiale che
impone una riduzione del 10% (al 2007) dei cosumi dei Light Trucks
(che se capisco correttamente includono i Pick-up, i fuori strada
e i Van ma NON i SUV) - una agenzia imperiale (NHTSA) stima 
il risparmio per anno a circa 13.6 Miliardi di litri di benzina.
Il piu' grande passo avanti dagli ultimi venti anni dice Jeffrey Runge
dell NHTSA. L'Impero, inteso come territorio metropolitano dell'Impero
si cucca il 20% del petrolio e, come penso si possa arrivare facendosi
delle statistiche in proprio con le versioni locali di quattoruote...
gli oggetti menzionati prima (Light Trucks: i Pick-up, i fuori strada
e Van)
si fanno 100 km con 12 litri (20.7 miglia per gallone) nel 2007 
le quadrighe imperiali dovranno andare a 100 km / 10.6 litri (22.2
miglia a gallone)
che  e' peggio di quanto faccia adesso un mezzo europeo
(qua l'FTD dice che ora in Germania la media e' 100 km / 7 litri).
Anyway il resto dell'articolo e' dedicato alla proteste della
Auto Lobby GM (general motors) piange un costo di 1.1 miliardi di
dollari
per portare le sue quadrighe a questo standard (ha adesso vedo perche'
sono importanti i "light trucks" qua dice che sono il 50% del mercato
ahhahah ahahahahahahah scusate ma sto leggendo in diretta, hai capito
la fregatura, se la quadriga e' classificata "light truck" invece che
"auto"
e' libera dagli standard di sicurezza e dalle tasse extra che sono
valide
per le solo quadrighe classificate "auto". Questa norma e'
giustificata dal
fatto che detti "light truck" sono pensati per il contadino o il
piccolo
imprenditore imperiale.... peccato che sono diventati "trendy" anche
per le "giovani famiglie" e per chi abita in citta'... morale della
favola,
l'invasione di Babilonia perche' fa figo andare in giro in light
truck.
Postmodernamente metto sempre su Battiato in questi casi
"..una razza di super-rettili che vi mangera' tralllalllalala' (da
'giu' dalla torre')"
piu' di 1 litro per far 10 km, me cojoni..... tra l'altro chi si frega
le mani
pronto a fare affari sono Mercedes, Volkswagen e BMW... 
FINANCIAL TIMES del weekend 12/13 April
Washington wants big write-off of Iraqi debt
Madonna che buono che e' l'Impero che vuole condonare i debiti
ai Babilonesi - 
www.ft.com/reconstruction
in stile postmoderno l'FT non fa molti commenti
ma mette una tabellina a lato dell'articolo intitolata
Iraq's sovereign external debt che mostra a chi appartiene questo
debito che l'Impero vuole cancellare... tutti gli importi in billions
di USD
Saudi Arabia 25.0 / Non Kuwait UAE and Gulf 17.5 / Kuwait 12.5
Paris Club (other than France and Russia) 9.5
Russia 8.0 / France 8.0 / Commercial creditors (London club) 2.6
Bulgaria 1.7 / Poland, Czech Rep, Romania 1.6 /
Multilateral insititutions 1.1 / Yugoslavia 0.7 
Other trade claims 2.2 / Others and unaccounted for 26.1
Totale 116.5.
Certo che la lista dei debitori non assomiglia molto alla lista
della coalizione dei willing corsi a liberare il petrolio Iracheno,
gli USA come paladino della liberta' ahahahahahahhahaahahahahahah
che condona i debiti altrui mentre distribuisce appalti per la
ricostruzione alle sue proprie ditte ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
e su IPI lo trovi anche il babbeo che te viene a raccontare seriamente
di quanto
e' bello l'Impero.
FINANCIAL TIMES DEUTSCHLAND del 15 April
La ricostruzione (wiederaufbau) dell'Iraq 
www.ftd.de/irak
le riserve petrolifere promettono un miracolo economico in Iraq
(Oelreserven versprechen Wirtschaftswunder in Irak) e interessante
la tabellina della riserve globali (in miliardi di barili)
Saudi Arabia 261.8 / Iraq 112.5 / UAE 97.8 / Kuwait 96.5 / Iran 89.7
e' interessante notare la presenza dell'altro pezzo dell'evil axis
bushiano
che Rumsfeld vuole andare a liberare, il Kuwait e' un protettorato,
l'Iraq una provincia imperiale direi che la mappa dei liberati fa una
bella
fetta delle riserve. 
FINANCIAL TIMES DEUTSCHLAND del 16 April
Industrie erwartet [aspetta] Irak -Bonanza
Le industrie tedesche si aspettano un notevole numero di contratti
know-how e buone referenze sono piu' importanti della politica
(Know-how und guter Name wichtiger als Politik)
Avessi postato il riferimento sulal riconstruzione del Kuwait sarebbe
piu' chiaro il commento - un giorno ci provero' a ritrovarlo nella
pila dei ritagli.
Bye

 Ale

 ed adottare una tecnologia come standard sono due cose diverse.
Ma no. Ci sono piu' di 150 paesi che usano il GSM, che e' stato scelto come
standard, nel senso che dici tu, solo dai 15 UE. In moltissimi altri paesi
(CIna, per esempio, Taiwan, gli stessi USA) reti GSM convivono con reti
CDMA. Addiritura negli USA la rete GSM e' quella a crescita maggiore.
E' vero comunque che in questo periodo il FT e' il giornale piu' di sinistra
d' Europa.
JP
PS: Qualcomm e' in california. Non c'entra niente con i texani

 Anyway queste cose non succedono se un paese "adotta uno standard"
Quanti paesi l'hanno fatto? E quanti in MO?
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ricostruzione alle sue proprie ditte ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Pagate con i propri soldi :))
*LOL*
-Stefano

se si cambia provider si deve cambiare il cellulare stesso).
Giusto :)  E dove sta il problema? :)   Direi che agevola il mercato
invece di ucciderlo :)
-Stefano

 PS: Qualcomm e' in california. Non c'entra niente con i texani
Credo che questa tua affermazione sia in replica alla mia 
ammetto di essere stato obliquo e di aver postato avendo letto 
un solo riferimento, come la lettura di
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Issa+Qualcomm+District
mostra effettivamente vi e' stata confusione al riguardo (avevo in
mente
che Issa fosse nel distretto della Qualcomm mentre pare sia in un
distretto
vicino)
... based in San Diego, and is covered by Rep. Issa's congressional
district.
Qualcomm is also one of Issa's top campaign contributors. ... 
images.kuro5hin.org/print/2003/4/3/22128/16025
 
... CDMA deployments. Qualcomm is not in Issa's district, but the
company
gave $5,500 to the congressman's last political campaign. ... 
www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1007552,00.asp
... One beneficiary of Issa's legislation, should it become law, would
be San
Diego-based Qualcomm Inc., which is near Issa's congressional
district. ...
www.tribnet.com/news/government/
 story/2852184p-2888704c.html
... Qualcomm, which is not in Issa's district, makes cell phone
handsets
for the CDMA standard. Lucent Technologies of New Jersey and ... 
www.sptimes.com/2003/03/28/Worldandnation/
 Push_made_for_US_tech.shtml
e' interessante che in rete vi e' pure una lista delle donazioni a
Issa
http://thinkinglinks.info/ca_2002_contributions/issa_ca49.html
ove pero' la Qualcomm risulta all'11 posto con 4,500 USD e non 5,500
USD
come altre fonti dicono (fossero 5,500 come la Exxon Mobil corporation
sarebbero al 5 posto) che ho trovato linkata da questa storia del The
register
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/59/29974.html
Circa al resto puoi dare una occhiata all'altra replica, nota che in 
Cina Mainland  c'e' uno anche  standard locale fortemente spinto dal
governo - cerchiamo comunque di non confondere la presenza di
provider, ovvero
la coesistenza di GSM, CDMA etc.., con la consistenza del numero di
utenti
che usa un protocollo rispetto che un altro. Particolarmente in zone 
limitate come Singapore, Hong Kong, la zona  di Shenzen ma anche la 
stessa Taiwan, l'idea di beccare l'utenza biz che arriva da una
altra zona puo' anche far mettere su una rete ma, come dire, una Base
Station
non fa una utenza.... 
Se non avete ancora googlato per la curiosita':
http://www.cdg.org/news/press/2002/dec3a_02.asp
 
CDMA REACHES 135 MILLION SUBSCRIBERS WORLDWIDE 
    Nearly 18 Percent of CDMA Subscribers Use 3G CDMA2000 
  
http://neasia.nikkeibp.com/nea/200303/alert_233187.html
 
GSM Subscribers to Hit One Billion by End 2003 
Direi che si viaggai sull'ordine del 10 GSM : 1 CDMA
Bye

 Ale

 una occhiata qui:
*ROTFL*
-Stefano

  US firms win $10m Iraq deals
[..] 
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 >
Troppo bello schiere di Yankee in giacca blu a istruire i musi di capra su
come gestire le fogne del paesino, da pisciarsi adosso dal ridere.
Tutta questa banda di dereliti da mandare nel deserto (ma dove li trovano
tanti disperati?) dove la metteranno di sera dentro un enorme bunker?
Se fanno fuori un marine robocop al giorno di questi ne fanno fuori 10,
sembrano tutte delle grandi cazzate fatte a tavolino, disperazione.
Sai niente di chi paghera' gli enormi debiti contratti dall'Iraq ?
Saluti Cad Ali

Continuo a ripulire la mia scrivania, il thread intero e' reperibile
qui:
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&frame=right&th=f4639d82b8cb2101&seekm=6196c429.0306141029.22d4a096%40posting.google.com#link1
INTERNATIONAL HERALD TRIBUNE 6 Febbraio
Lo cito perche' e' il giorno in cui viene presentato su quasi tutti
giornali il liberto Powell che fa il famoso discorso sulle
armi di distrazione di massa dell'Iraq e presenta una provetta 
contenente del panzanio titolo
Powell lays out case on Iraq.
'he presentes intelligence data to UN and says delay is not an option'
lo cito in questo thread in quanto ad armi di distrazione di massa NON
trovate qualche bella testa ha pensato di dire che aaaaah, ma era la
UN
che diceva che ci stavano, e non l'Impero... dimenticando appunto
exploit come il famoso dossier cut & paste di Blair e il discorso
del liberto all'assemblea dell'UN tesi ad ottenere mano libera
per la conquista della Babilonia.
Sull'IT di quel giorno c'e' anche una interessante tabella (pag 5)
GBR,CHI,FRA, RUS & USA piu' India e Pakistan hanno ufficialmente
armi nucleari - due altri paesi sono sospettati averne. Nord Corea
e l'altrettanto democratico e pacifico Israele il quale NON ha firmato
il trattato del 1970 (non proliferazione armi nucleari)  e la
convenzione
del 1975 sulle armi biologiche  (biological and toxin weapon) .
Fatta questa digressione mi riporto sull'argomento del thread, ovvero
la grana
INTERNATIONAL HERALD TRIBUNE 7 Febbraio
Plans for postwar Iraq move ahead
US and Europe negotiate costs of reconstruction before conflict starts
(..) 'we are, of course, working with our European allies on providing
a COHERENT and EFFECTIVE post-Saddam planning' dice l'Imperiale
'center for European reform' - essendo che scrivo questo a fine Giugno
direi
che e', come dire, superfluo ogni eccessivo commento... sopprattutto
sulla efficacia di questi piani. Per inciso in quei giorni c'era stato
anche il commento di Rumsfeld su Germania, Libia e Cuba.
FINANCIAL TIME MARCH 15/16
questa notizia mi ha insegnato che e' utile tenere pile di giornali
da riguardare molto tempo dopo - solo a primi appalti assegnati 
il nome Halliburton e' balzato in primo piano, ma, in quella data
era sepolto a pagina 8 come "Halliburton headway on plaintiffs"
ebbene si, la Halliburton e' nel pieno della famosa causa dell'Absesto
"Halliburton [..] said in a bankrupcy filin that 75% of the plaintiffs
in
its absestos related personal injury lawsuit have agreed to the terms
of the 4 bn settlement struck in December." la bancarotta non e'
della Halliburton ma di una sussidiaria, ma in ogni caso deve pagare 
$4 bn in cash and stock. Brutta cosa per l'Halliburton che comunque
contera' poi sui famosi appalti in terra di Babilonia
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2950154.stm
te guarda che tempismo dell'appalto.
FINANCIAL TIMES DEUTSCHLAND del 7  April
giusto per avere una dimensione dei contratti, googlare con
BECHTEL GROUP (San Francisco, la piu' grossa ditta di
costruzioni dell'Impero) vs. PARSON Pasadena (28^ posto).
Si puntualizza che USAID da i contratti in velocita' che non
si deve perdere tempo e che comunque e' il taxpayer
imperiale che finanzia la riconstruzione etc.. etc..
anyway queste due si battono per una torta di 600 Mio $.
In quel periodo c'era ancora la retorica di guerra, tipo che
i babilonesi liberati fornivano agli Imperiali liste degli iscritti
al partito  Baath etc.. too bad che in estate si vedranno
ex generali di Saddam istallati come governatori buahahahahahahah
(postero' piu' avanti il FT su questo argomento)
Il caso della Qualcomm [CDMA] e del Senatore Issa appare
anche in questa edizione, giusto per i records qui dicono
che il GSM lo usa il 72% dell'utenza contro il 12% de CDMA.
In medio oriente CDMA e' usato solo in Israele.
FINANCIAL TIMES  del 9  April
Foto dell'Imperatore con il fido vassallo Blair, titolo a otto colonne
US and UK plan for Iraqi Election "within two years" quindi stay tuned
per il 9 Aprile 2005 - segnatevi la data sui calendari e ricordate che
questo annuncio e' stato fatto a Hillsborough Castle in Irlanda del
Nord,
che come Omen non e' male vista la storia assolutamente pacifica
e fraterna di quell'area. 
Durante detto incontro la corte imperiale interagisce con la corte
del fido vassallo "americas has no finer ally than the UK and no finer
friend
than the prime minister" che sarebbe Blair "The poodle" Tony, nei modi
descritti nell'articolo "Passing Notes on the future of the world" che
segnalo
perche' accompagnato da una foto di Condolezza Rice che fa rivalutare
di un colpo le opinioni di Lombroso.
Passiamo alle cose serie pagina 3:
"US ponders just when to declare victory" un sondaggio del LA Times
mostra che il 39% degli americani considererebbero la guerra
un successo se "Mr. Hussein vanished or were allowed into exile.
Fully 85% however said they would call it a victory if he were
captured
or killed (questo al 9 Aprile. eh beh...)" giusto per capire
le dimensioni della vittoria faccio una digressione sulle notizie di
oggi
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3027906.stm
non e' la notizia che hanno stirato un legionario oggi che colpisce
quanto che "The two servicemen vanished with their vehicle, weapons
and
gear on Wednesday near the town of Balad. There was blood at the
scene. "
cioe' gli hanno fatto sparire due legionari completi di armi con
VEICOLO *INCLUSO* .
Questa notizia di oggi 30 giugno, al 9 Aprile invece l'impero
ponderava quando
dichiarar vittoria - chissa' se ponderera' abbastanza...
vi e' poi un mitico articolo pagina 5 intitolato
"US to press World bank to play role in Iraq" che dice che
Washington has its onw plans for what do to with the monetary system
in Iraq.
Tresury officials - ovvero burocrati imperiali di rango abbastanza
elevato -
say that at present they have three phases in mind:
in the first for sake of speed of simplicty [..] Dollars [..]
second as early as the next few days a batch of "Swiss dinars"
the old Iraqi currency still circulating in the Kurdish areas will be
printed [..]
in the third phase, a new currency  replacing both the swiss dinar
and the newer "saddam dinar" will be circulated.
Questo al 9 aprile... se seguite cosa accade in quell'area vi sara'
balzato all'occhio un dettaglio..
Last but not least in questo numero da collezione del FT ci sta un
articolo
a pagina intera (la 13) intitolato 'Opec is creating a tidal wave of 
crude oil that cannot all be adsorbed. A production cut may be
unavoidable'
a parte la complessita' dell'argomento detto articolo ricorda che la
prima
sessione dell'Opec e' stata a Bagdhad nel 1960 "the streets were
filled with the tanks
and soldiers of a regime nervous about its survival: within three
years a military coup
overthrew the government of Adb-al-Karim Kassem." 9 Aprile 2003
carri armati forniti questa volta dall'Impero. 
A pagina 15 un  titolo interessante (ma OT nel contesto di  questo
thread)
 "A distant world for which  Bush cares little".
E' noto quanto l'Imperatore e l'Impero stesso ci tengano
alla lotta alla droga etc.. etc.. piu' lottano e piu' il prezzo della
droga
stessa venduta al dettaglio nelle lande dell'Impero si alza stimolando
quindi l'ingegno imprenditoriale di chi vuol fare il suo business sul
commercio della stessa. Per il contadino boliviano coltivare la coca
e' un modo per uscire dalla miseria (50,000 i contadini e 200,000 le
loro
famiglie) e il fatto che gli venga offerta dall'Impero un programma
sositutivo
di coltivazione che offra minore ritorno della coltivazione della coca
e' un modo per andare verso un sicuro disastro e, soprattutto,
un atto in spregio ai principi dell'economia.
Trovo interessante coincidenza che l'articolo sotto questo si intitoli
"the strange death of liberal economics"  che certo, difficile 
pensare che un Impero si possa fondare su una concezione liberale
dell'economia.
Bye

Paga bertoldo e incassano le compagnie di Cheney, davvero grande.
Da quando Cheney possiede tali compagnie? :))
*ROTFL*
-Stefano

un atto in spregio ai principi dell'economia.
Beh, fino a quando la produzione di coca sara' illegale in Bolivia
rischia di perdere tutto (campi bruciati) mentre magari con altre
coltivazioni avrebbe un guadagno minore ma sicuro.
E questo e' "in spregio ai principi dell'economia" del Pirlissima(TM)
:)))
*LOL*
-Stefano

 Paga bertoldo e incassano le compagnie di Cheney, davvero grande.
Lo postero' in seguito ma le parole chiavi qui reperibili
potrebbero fornirti materiale interessante per le tue ricerche.
Elizabeth Cheney 36-year-old daughter of vice president Dick Cheney
Her Appointment as  deputy assistant secretary of state for the near
east in march 2002
la quale, secondo il FT del 19 June nell'articolo "US eyes economic
regime change
in Mideast". [..] is spearheading a drive for economic reform in the
region"
ma non me lo dire.
Suppongo la riforma sia intesa come, o date tutti gli appalti alla
ditta
del  papa' (la Halliburton - della quale Cheney e' stato al comando)
oppure
l'Impero bombarda e dopo da  tutti gli appalti alla ditta del  papa' .
Bye

questo non e' molto sulla sola economia & finanza tuttavia
continuando a ripulire la mia scrivania vorrei nel mio piccolo evidenziare
un vero blatant asshole, tal Max Boot, che e' 'Olin Senior Fellow at the
council of Foreign relation' ed e' persino autore di un libro 
'the savage wars of peace: small wars and the rise of american power'
magari un giorno googlera' nella rete per vedere quanto si parla di lui,
da come scrive deve aver un ego mica male, beh, nel caso
avesse googlato fin qua ecco un messaggio per lui "ciao coglionazzo :-P "
Anyway questo idiota svetta a pagina 13 del Financial Times del 10 March
al titolo "America must not be tied by Lilliputians" il concetto sarebbe che
"france, russia and china would chortel at giving guinea a veto over they send 
forces - yet they expext america to do just that"  sentiamo un po' la prosa
di 'sto coglione "the war has already started : anglo americans commandos and
airplanes are now operating inside Iraq [..] as president bush made
clear in his press conference last thursday, coalition forces will act
against Saddam Hussein, with or without the UN's approval"
[..] sentiamo come riassume il suo parere sull'UN il Max Boot
"The UN isn't entirely useless. A quick perusal of its website 
shows that it has a loot to keetp it busy. "UN agency to launch a 
new sport and environment for youth" reads the headline of one press release.
Another trumpets "UN bankss offer cut-rate loans for solar power development 
in India" While the UN pursues those weighty projects, the hard work of
making the world a bit safer for democarcy will be performed,as it always
has been, and always will be, by America, Britain and their allies.
A prescindere dal sarcasmo fuori posto su progetti assolutamente legittimi
e' interessante notare anche il fatto che passato, presente _E_ futuro
e lavoro per l'Impero e i suoi vassalli.... brutta cosa l'hubris....
questo lo diceva al 10 marzo di questo anno e....
riguardo al sicuro raccomando questa notizia circa un bambino iracheno
arrotato da un convoglio imperiale..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/from_our_own_correspondent/3025800.stm
Saturday, 28 June, 2003, 11:57 GMT 12:57 UK  
Death on the road to Basra
[..]
She tells me how she saw her 11-year-old brother,
Muhannad, had run up to an American military convoy
trying to sell something to the soldiers, but was run over  as he crossed the road. 
The Americans did not stop. 
[..]
certo occorre capirli che gli imperiali andavano di fretta che pare abbiano 
i loro problemini tipo questi...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3027906.stm
Saturday, 28 June, 2003, 06:46 GMT 07:46 UK  
US soldier dies in convoy attack
                    On Friday, US forces arrested three people as part of their
                    search for two American soldiers thought to have been
                    abducted north of Baghdad.
                    The two servicemen vanished with their vehicle, weapons and
                    gear on Wednesday near the town of Balad. There was blood
                    at the scene. 
                    And on Friday, a US soldier was reportedly shot in the face in
                    a Baghdad shop. His condition is not known. 
                    In the past three days alone, incidents have included: 
                         One American military policeman killed while
                         investigating a car theft near the southern town of
                         Najaf 
                         Clashes south-west of the Iraqi capital that left a US
                         soldier dead and eight wounded 
                         Assailants blowing up a US military vehicle with a
                         roadside bomb 
                         A rocket-propelled grenade attack on US vehicles
                         travelling towards the airport, killing an Iraqi driver. 
                         Demolition of an oil pipeline 
                    On Tuesday, six British military policemen were killed in
                    southern Iraq after trouble erupted during weapons searches. 
                    In addition to the ambushes, our correspondent in Baghdad
                    says, there appears to be a campaign of sabotage targeting
                    the country's oil pipelines. 
                    The US and Britain may have removed Saddam Hussein from
                    power, he adds, but they do not have Iraq fully under their
                    control, as they had expected. 
Non gli va molto meglio alle truppe dei vassalli britannici di Tony "poodle" blair
che adesso vanno in giro con i carri armati 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3028416.stm
Last Updated: Saturday, 28 June, 2003, 22:30 GMT 23:30 UK  
UK show of force in Iraqi town  British forces in southern
Iraq have sent 500 troops back to the town of Majar
al-Kabir, where six military   policemen were killed.
la cosa piu' interessante e' che questa e' una citta Scita, e gli Sciti sotto
Saddam Hussein hanno sofferto davvero molto, il fatto che a pochi mesi
dalla liberazioni i suddetti sciti linciano sei legionari fa da pensare..
qui per i dettagli su questo episodio
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3021738.stm
last but not least.. vi ricordare che la crociata imperiale era per liberare
i babilonesi oppressi dal tiranno e dalla sua cricca etc...?
questo e' il dibattito sul che fare:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/3017082.stm00
il FT sul generale babilonese reistallato lo posto appena lo ritrovo
Bye

quale Cheney e' stato al comando)
Ma al cui comando non c'e' piu'.  :)  Oltre al fatto che non e' mai
stata "del papa'" :)
Insomma... La solita ca***ta del Pirlissima(TM) :)
-Stefano

Questa volta, invece di ripulire la scrivania posto la url di due
recenti
articoli usciti uno sulla BBC e l'altro su IEEE Spectrum, li posto
quasi
per intero che, sebbene tutti e due i siti tengono molto materiale in
archivio, cose simili vanno certamente duplicate anche negli archivi
di google...
A proposito il thread intero e' reperibile qui:
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&frame=right&th=f4639d82b8cb2101&seekm=6196c429.0306141029.22d4a096%40posting.google.com#link1
Polonia...
Che la Polonia fosse parte della coalizione imperiale e' ben noto. Che
la spedizione Imperiale in terra di Babilonia fosse motivata dalla
necessita'
di liberare il mondo dalla minaccia delle armi di *distrazione* di
massa (
quelle cosi' temute da Tony "Poodle" Blair) e di liberare i Babilonesi
stessi
dal vile tiranno e' anche ben noto.
Certo vedere la bandiera imperiale garrire al vento di Baghdad sopra
le
imperiali legioni, protettrici dei valori universali di democrazia e
sicurezza,
fa venire le lacrime agli occhi.
Dal ridere, pero'.
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3043330.stm
Last Updated: Thursday, 3 July, 2003, 21:47 GMT 22:47 UK  
Poland seeks Iraqi oil stake
mah, mah?!? e i babilonesi bramanti le liberta' di cui ogni cittadino
imperiale a diritto per nascita?? e le armi di *distrazione* di massa?
Poland, which has sent  troops to support the US-led
forces in Iraq, has acknowledged its "ultimate
objective" is to acquire supplies of Iraqi oil. 
The Polish Foreign Minister, Wlodzimierz Cimoszewicz, said
his country had never disguised the fact that it sought direct
access to the oilfields. 
Che vorrei anche sottolinearlo come ennesimo sintomo della pericolosa
involuzione della economia mondiale. In una economia liberale
si va dal detentore di una risorsa offrendo merci e servizi in cambio
della risorsa stessa - possibilmente in competizione con altri si che
alla fine il sistema si evolve autonomamente verso una maggiore
efficenza.
In una economia coloniale si mandano invece le truppe per aver
"diretto accesso ai campi petroliferi" - il passaggio successivo e' da
collezione
He was speaking as a group of Polish firms signed a deal with
a subsidiary of US Vice President Dick Cheney's former  company,
Halliburton.
The US firm, Kellogg, Brown and Root, has already won
million-dollar contracts to carry out reconstruction work in  Iraq. 
 "We have never hidden our desire for Polish oil companies to
 finally have access to sources of commodities," Mr
Cimoszewicz told the Polish PAP news agency.  
L'unico appunto che faccio alla BBC e' l'errato uso dei termini alla
fine
quando viene detto che 
It is the first time Poland has led such a large multinational 
peacekeeping force. 
Da quando in qua fare la guardi ai pozzi per avere accesso alle
materie prime e' "peacekeeping"?!?! 
Come quell'imbecille di Max Boot rantola sul FT del 3 July
"Washington needs a colonial office" pag 13 (estratti del pensiero
minimo
di codesto cretino li postero' come follow-up all'altro post ove lo ho
citato)
Bye
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3043330.stm

Questa volta, invece di ripulire la scrivania posto la url di due
recenti
articoli usciti uno sulla BBC e l'altro su IEEE Spectrum, li posto
quasi
per intero che, sebbene tutti e due i siti tengono molto materiale in
archivio, cose simili vanno certamente duplicate anche negli archivi
di google...
A proposito il thread intero e' reperibile qui:
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&frame=right&th=f4639d82b8cb2101&seekm=6196c429.0306141029.22d4a096%40posting.google.com#link1
IEEE...
per prima cosa spendo due parole sul fatto, che protrebbe stupire, che
l'organo
della IEEE  pubblichi tali articoli - la IEEE pubblica una svariata
serie
di pubblicazioni assai specialistiche per settori molto particolari,
lo
Spectrum tuttavia e' la pubblicazione che viene inviata per default a
tutti,
quindi e' assolutamente generica.
Essa e' dedicata anche al commento di fatti politici che hanno un
impatto
occupazionale, infatti il complesso militar-industriale dell'Impero
impiega
direttamente o indirettamente numerosissimi EE.
Professionalmente e' interessante un atteggiamento ambivalente della
categoria,
guadagnarsi uno stipendio dissipando i soldi del contribuente senza
dargli
alcun ritorno e' equivalente a rubare, anche se produce pezzi di raro
umorismo
http://slate.msn.com/id/2084665/
The Pentagon's Laughable Weapons Test
Fire missile. Miss target completely. Success!
By Fred Kaplan
 Posted Friday, June 20, 2003, at 11:23 AM PT 
 It looked like a headline from the Onion, but it was from CNN and the
story
was real: "Missile Misses Target, Officials Call It a Success."
L'"Onion" e' un periodico satirico, se vi leggete tutta la storia 
osserverete come tutto e' relativo, un disadattato come ROTFL de LOL
che
impesta la gerarchia it.* di reply senza follow up (ad esempio su
questo thread) posto in un altro  contesto potrebbe diventare un
persino portavoce...
However, the Missile Defense Agency's spokesman, Chris Taylor, saw the
test differently. "I wouldn't call it a failure," he told CNN,
"because
the intercept was not the primary objective. 
It's still considered a success, in that we gained great engineering
data. We just don't know why it didn't hit."
...ovviamente finche' il suo datore di lavoro non scopre che invece di
lavorare
lui se ne sta a tempo pieno su it.discussioni.sentimenti e.. il resto
sta su google.
Anyway parlando di come fregarsi i soldi del contribuente, la famosa
tuta
(postata su IPI da George) e' stata commentata anche qui..
http://212.100.234.54/content/28/30852.html
 
Invisible GIs to heal selves, leap tall building with nanotech 
Ma torniamo alla  Babilonia, la provincia imperiale piu' recentemente
annessa, enjoy:
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/wonews/jul03/iraq.html
To the Victors, the Contracts 
By Willie D. Jones 
Which engineering firms will rebuild Iraq, and how will contracts be
let?
 2 July 2003—Nobody needs to be told that the reconstruction of Iraq
is a highly charged subject, with huge human,  political, and
financial interests at stake.  [..]
The decision by the Bush administration to rely heavily on private
contractors,
and to put reconstruction work in the hands of companies with which
members of
the administration have had close ties without open bidding, was 
controversial from the start. 
Nel caso avete problemi con l'Inglese in Italiano corrente si dice che
i contratti
sono stati appaltati agli amici, Prima vediamo la grana che gira:
Bechtel National Inc. (San Francisco), the world's largest 
engineering contractor, was awarded US $680 million early this year to
rebuild Iraq's electrical grid, water-treatment systems, roads, and
schools.
It is expected to remain, in effect, the United States prime
contractor
and perform  work that runs into billions of dollars, at least.
Separately, Kellogg, Brown, and Root, a Houston, Texas subsidiary of 
Halliburton Co.  (Dallas), was awarded an  "indefinite
delivery/indefinite
 quantity" contract with  a $7 billion cap to extinguish Iraqi oil
well fires
and then help get the Iraqi oil industry back on firm footing. 
Poi vediamo gli amici :
Halliburton was once run by U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney, while
Bechtel's
leadership has boasted former Republican cabinet members like George
Schultz
 and Caspar Weinberger,
secretaries of state and defense, respectively, under Ronald Reagan.
Perhaps because of the ongoing criticism over the no-bid contracts and
a looming Congressional inquiry, the U.S. Army Corps of engineers
announced
on 27 June that it is ending the Halliburton contract.  
Volendo essere maligni si potrebbe ricordare che i pozzi incendiati
sono
stati assai pochini - ultimamente ci sono stati pero' degli
attentati...
saranno stati dei dipendenti della Halliburton nel tentativo di
arrivare al
massimo contattuale di 7 miliardi di dollari... magari gli va meglio
se
provano a dirottare un aereo sui pozzi bauaahahahahahahahahahahah
Si cerca di ridere per non piangere:
The agency plans to solicit bids for two contracts to repair Iraq's
oil fields.
The scope of the contracts—one for northern Iraq and one for the
south—has yet
to be defined. As a result KBR,  which just complete $235
million-worth of work,
will, at best, get half of the oil field work. The Corps of Engineers
plans
to award the contracts,  whose value could reach $500 million each, to
two separate firms.
La grana c'e', manca solo lo scopo del contratto, direi che la Regione
Sicilia
al confronto e' un modello di trasparenza ed efficenza...
L'articolo e' molto lungo ed interessante, soprattutto perche' da bene
una idea
che l'Impero ha uno scarso controllo della sua nuova provincia:
On 20 June, the Washington Post reported that "in April, when
[engineers
from Bechtel]  first set out to assess the damage to Iraq's
transmission
towers on the southeastern leg of a line from [Al] Qurnah to Al Kut,
[they]
found 13 towers knocked down by looters in  search of copper, aluminum
and
steel. A month later, [they] discovered 52 more towers had been
destroyed."
Fregarsi delle torri della alta tensione non e' che sia una attivita'
che non dia
nell'occhio visto che sono oggetti alti su una trentina di metri, il
fatto
che nessun  legionario abbia fatto una piega da una buona indicazione
del
come mai i nemici  numeri uno dell'impero, Saddam ed il Bieco Osama,
siano
ancora alla macchia.
Ambedue sono infatti molto piu' bassi dei 30 metri di una torre ad
alta tensione.
[..] Vandals, say Iraqi engineers, rely on smelting plants to turn the
stolen copper wires  and steel support structures into brick-like bars
for
transport to Iran.  [..]
.... o di un altoforno ove si trasformano i materiali rubati in piu;
maneggevoli lingotti.
Anyway torniamo alla grana
USAID says its mission is to simply restore Iraq's grid to pre-war
conditions.
At a 21 April press conference, USAID's administrator, Andrew S.
Natsios, said the
agency will wrap up its operations there within two years [a
transcript of
the conference is available at 
http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/
].
etc.. etc.. ma tutta questa ricostruzione chi la paga?
As estimated costs of rebuilding Iraq climbing all the time, and as 
estimated time it will take gets longer, perhaps the biggest question
of all
is where the money will  come from: in particular, who will control
the
country's oil and how the revenues will be spent. 
 Basically, as things stand, the United States and Great Britain have
almost
undisputed control over Iraq's oil. Section 20 of U.N. Security
Council Resolution 1483
(22 May 2003), which removed the sanctions imposed on Iraq after the
1991 conflict, says that "all export sales of petroleum, petroleum
products, and natural
gas from Iraq… shall be deposited into the Development Fund for Iraq"
until an
 internationally recognized Iraqi government is established. Of
the fund, Section 13 of the Resolution says, "the funds in the
Development Fund for Iraq
shall be disbursed at the direction of the Authority," which consists
of U.S. and British governmental representatives.
Quindi praticamente si realizza un modello semikeynesiano, l'Impero
bombarda
ponti e strade per conquistare la sua nuova provincia dopodiche'
sequestra
le risorse di detta provincia per fare ricostruire detti ponti e dette
strade
dalle ditte degli amici. Poi dice, ah, gli  iu es a' beacon di
democrazia etc...
gli iu es a' sono un paese capitalista, tutto impregnati di spirito
imprenditoriale seh..
gli United States of Nepotism direi..
Certo, questo branco di "neo-conservatori" aka piu' semplicemente
coglioni, potranno
pure progettare di spartirsi il petrolio babilonese, avranno il potere
di muovere
le legioni imperiali ma non hanno il potere di riuscire ad attrarre
staff members
di livello decente che gli implementino i loro piani di dominazione,
infatti solo dopo
si sono accorti che:
Freeing up the oil revenue for use in reconstruction is a start, but
according to
the aforementioned Council on Foreign Relations report, Iraq's oil
industry would
have to go well beyond its pre-war production level of 2.5 million
barrels
per day to generate any money for reconstruction. Getting to that
point—still considered
a mere trickle compared with the nation's 100 billion barrels in
proven reserves—from
the current 700 000-barrel-per-day output is easier said than done. 
The council report, called "Iraq: The Day After," says restoring
production to its 1977
 peak of 3.5 million barrels per day would require an investment as
high as $7 billion over
 the next two years. "To achieve more significant  increases—say, to 6
million barrels per
day by 2010," the report states, "Iraq would need multiyear
investments
totaling over $20 billion." 
In a nutshell, Iraq's oil situation reflects the old adage that in
order to make money,
you need money.
chissa' se questo e' chiaro ai Polacchi che, gia' con la visione di
essere sovvenzionati
dalla EU mandano le loro truppe di ausiliari per avere accesso alle
risorse naturali
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3043330.stm
Last Updated: Thursday, 3 July, 2003, 21:47 GMT 22:47 UK  
Poland seeks Iraqi oil stake
Finendo queste quote da Spectrum, prendo un pezzo dal fondo
dell'articolo, visto
che nel thread all'inizio si e' parlato di Issa, Qualcomm, CDMA e GSM
But by the end of May, the U.S. Department of Defense had awarded a
contract
to build a mobile phone network in  Baghdad to disgraced
telecommunications
firm WorldCom, renamed MCI (Ashburn, Va.).
.. che e' in fondo la dimostrazione di come il nepotismo manda in
putrefazione
le economie - una banda di incompetenti viene tenuta in piedi
ammandendogli
un contratto di ricostruzione in una provincia in cui mediamente ci
lascia le
strasse un legionario ogni due giorni. Per mantenere alto il morale
adesso
il Pentagono precisa puntigliosamente il numero dei legionari stirati
dal fuoco
diretto - come se fosse diverso il lasciare le strasse perche', ad
esempio,
il mezzo su cui  si viaggia va a ribaltarsi in un fosso in quanto  si
va a velocita' troppo
elevata per paura di buscarsi una pallottola. Ah, non mancate di
osservare
l'uso del termine "seized"
Dov S. Zakheim, undersecretary of
defense,  [..]  Zakheim mentioned several other sources of initial
funding for
Iraqi reconstruction: $800 million seized by coalition soldiers during
the war; [..]
..ora il nome Zakheim suona tedesco ma tedesco non mi sembrava proprio
quindi dalla curiosita' ho gogglato con questra stringa "Dov 
Zakheim undersecretary Jewish" ovvero:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Dov+Zakheim+undersecretary+Jewish&btnG=Google+Search
Pare proprio che il Zakheim sia ebreo, incredibile, gli Imperiali
devono essere davvero
dei  geni del marketing  per mettere un ebreo a far dichiarazioni
simili sulla
ricostruzione dell'Iraq che, immagino, la stampa araba certe cose non
fara' mancare di notarle (let alone cosa diranno le frangie
estremiste)
Nel senso che se vi sono dei membri della amministrazione che sono
ebrei
logica vorrebbe che sia meglio assegnarli alle relazioni con l'Africa,
l'America del Sud,  la Cina.... tutto ma non il medio oriente. 
Qui invece pare che l'Impero se sia possibile
far qualcosa per aumentare la tensione invece di diminuirla la fa di
sicuro, mah!
Bye
P.S. non strettamente in topic ma interessante
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3044116.stm

 materie prime e' "peacekeeping"?!?!
E dove hai visto qualsivoglia loro "accesso alle materie prime"
nell'articolo che hai riportato? :))
*LOL*
Continua cosi' Pirlissima(TM)!  I tuoi articoli inglesi sono sempre uno
spasso :)
-Stefano

...
ove scriveva (al 10 Marzo 2003) "americas must not be tied by
lilliputians"
ed ora ecco a voi il Max Boot del 3 July 2003 sempre a pagina 13
(e' quella dei commenti) con il titolo 
"washington needs a colonial office"
The US occupation of Iraq is still in its early stages.
It is ludicrously premature to call it a failure, as some critics
already do.
==================== begin commento
Magari mentre leggete potete cominciare a scaricarvi questa pagina
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
Timeline: US losses in Iraq
che riporta i 57 legionari imperiali che ci hanno lasciato le strasse
dal primo maggio, quando l'Imperatore ha dichiarato che 
"i maggiori combattimenti sono finiti", a Friday, 4 July, 2003, 06:53
GMT.
La truppa di Tony "poodle" blair ha perso nel frattempo 6 armigeri.
Nota finale, devo ricontrollare il mio archivio ma direi che
al 1 maggio l'imperatore aveva dichiarato vittoria
==================== end commento
Assuming that the US and Britain keep their nerve in the face of
the growing guerilla attacks, 
==================== begin commento
Non e' chiarissimo cosa intende qua questo deficente, visto che
vi sono svariati episodi in cui i legionari hanno sparato sulla folla 
durante dimostrazioni in cui i dimostranti tiravano sassi.
Suggerisco di cliccare sul link al 5 June: della pagina precedente
Town vents its anger at US o di gogglare con la parola Fallujah.
Altra interessante pagina e'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3047798.stm
Saturday, 5 July, 2003, 16:26 GMT 17:26 UK  
Heat and violence hits US troops 
By Keith Adams  BBC News, Baghdad 
The recent spate of attacks on American troops in Iraq
has had a profound effect on the morale of the US troops
stationed here. 
==================== end commento
there is little doubt that they can still make good on
Georg"e W. Bush's pledge, delivered in the speech on Tuesday,
that there will be no return to tyranny in Iraq" and that
"those who threaten the order and the stability of the
country will face ruin, just as surely as the regime they once served"
==================== begin commento
a prescindere che sarebbe un po' "ludicrously premature" parlare
di ordine e stabilita' in quel di babilonia e interessante notare
che all'Imperatore non e' chiaro il fatto che pure  gli Sciiti, che 
venivano regolarmente massacrati dal Saddam, si dedicano ora
al tiro al legionario.
Attenzione comunque a come continua
==================== end commento
But even if things ultimately work out well - and the odds
are that they will - it is not too soon to ask what went wrong.
This is not to cast blame but to do better in Iraq - and in the
next country that needs to be rebuilt. Liberia, perhaps.
Da questo punto in poi l'articolo e' delirio puro, parla pure della
necessita' di aprire un ufficio coloniale, direi che quindi di fronte
a tanta hubris e' appropriato andare alle pagine CNN 
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/
che raccolgono i dettagli di come ci hanno lasciato le strasse
i 251 legionari e alleati dall'inizio della campagna babilonese
ad oggi (251 confirmed coalition deaths in the war as of July 4,
2003.).
Che uno gia' nota un piccolo dettaglio - la guerra non e' finita
al 1 maggio - ma te guarda.
Che uno cinicamente potrebbe pensare che al  limite l'Impero
potrebbe mettere degli agenti locali a gestire la situazione
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3047084.stm
Saturday, 5 July, 2003, 17:18 GMT 18:18 UK  
Blast outside Iraqi police station
At least seven recruits to a US-backed Iraqi police force
have been killed in an explosion near a police
station in western Iraq. 
[..]
One elderly Iraqi - speaking in the hospital where the
wounded were being treated - said: "That is what you get for
working with the Americans. They have all been warned  before." 
Effetivamente a gestire l'ufficio coloniale per la Babilonia
si potrebbe mandare il Max Boot, sai che articoli ti scrive dopo.
Bye

 firm WorldCom, renamed MCI (Ashburn, Va.).
 
mettendo via i FT mi e' cascato l'occhio su un interessante ritaglio
a pagina 17 del FT del June 30 che dice che "US weights up WorldCom
work"
The US government has begun weighing whether to stop doing business
with WorldCom, the bankrupt telecommunications carrier engulfed
in a $11bn (= 11 milardi di dollari) fraud, Senator Susan Collins said
(..)
WorldCom gets roughly $1bn in revenue a year from US government
contracts.
Armato di queste parole chiave ho googlato un po' in giro, trovando
che
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/techinvestor/2003-05-16-worldcom-gsm-iraq_x.htm
WorldCom says to build wireless network in Iraq
PHILADELPHIA (Reuters) —
Bankrupt telephone company WorldCom said Thursday it
won a contract to build a wireless telephone network in
Iraq as the post-war country tries to rebuild and restore
communications and other basic services. 
WorldCom, which is changing its name to MCI, said it
was on track to have a small wireless network operating
in June. [..] Media reports pegged the contract's
value at about $45 million.
[..] The company, which also helped build a similar wireless 
network in Afghanistan,[..] WorldCom, which filed the world's biggest
bankruptcy last year, is the largest communications provider to the
U.S. government and serves more than 75 government agencies.
che e' uno dei risultati ottenuti cosi' gogglando:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=WorldCom+Iraq+network
non so se al momento che usato voi google e' ancora in cima agli
sponsored link (ovvero quelli che pagano per comparire nella
pagina di ricerca) ma c'e' ache il sito ufficiale della causa
contro la WorldCom che merita una visita
http://www.worldcomstockfraud.com/
Fatta la verifica di quello che diceva Spectrum sono passato a
verificare cosa diceva il FT googlando con
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=WorldCom+Susan+Collins
ed emergono 2,060 risultati, ho visionato la prima pagina
c'e' anche il Washington Post.
Beh insomma, gli imperiali gli hanno rifilato ai Babilonesi proprio
una bella azienda per rifargli la rete di telefonia mobile, altro
che Alcatel, Siemens o la stessa Motorola (imperiale ma affidabile,
ha avuto anche appalti la rete in Giordania) la rete la rifa'
la WorldCom, una garanzia.
Bye

si dedicano ora al tiro al legionario.
Come no! :)) Infatti si sente parlare ogni giorno di sciiti e invece i
sunniti quasi mai :)))
*LOL*
Continua cosi' Pirlissima(TM)! :))
-Stefano

una bella azienda per rifargli la rete di telefonia mobile,
Cosa tutta da dimostrare :)
-Stefano

*LOL*
e che problema c'č? se mi tirano un sasso contro casa e se possiedo
una bombetta non c'č nulla di male se gliele tiro.... pensa che anche
il codice di Hammurabi era meno barbaro, ma forse ancora non sei
arrivato a quello sviluppo civile.

il thread su google e' reperibile cliccando qui sotto:
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&frame=right&th=f4639d82b8cb2101&seekm=6196c429.0306141029.22d4a096%40posting.google.com#link1
Qui vorrei parlare sia delle truppe in Babilonia sia di un altro
importante
fatto, ovvero, chi le paga? 
Il petrolio per il momento no
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3049208.stm
Anyway siccome ho trovato parecchia roba faro' repliche
successive a questo post per cercare di mantenere un certo ordine. 
 
FT July 3 pag 4
Washington struggles to top up allied force in Iraq
The US says 24 countries have promised to send troops to Iraq, but
diplomats and analysts believe Washington is struggling to put
together
sufficient numbers to tackle a military and political undertaking that
was severly
underestimated.  [..] join the contingents of roughly 150,000 US and 
British troops, backed by small numbers of Poles and Australians
Ora giusto per dare una misura del mare di guai in cui l'Impero si sta
ficcando
cito i paesi nominati nell'articolo, notare che con i (!) indico i
paesi che farebbero bene
a sfamare i loro stessi concittadini invece di mandare truppe in giro:
INDIA(!), BANGLADESH (!!!) (definiti "reluctant to place troops under
the command
of US forces).
Tony "Poodle" Blair ha fatto un appello a 20 nazioni (di cui sette
hanno risposto)
per unirsi alle forze di occupazione Inglese, chi ha risposto e'
ITALY, NETHERLANDS,
NORWAY, PORTUGAL, LITHUANIA (!), ROMANIA (!!) & NEW ZEALAND.
Si dice che 650 soldiers from the CZECH REPUBLIC & DENMARK are in
place.
L'articolo parla anche della [POLAND (!)] Polish "division",
virgolettata che l'FT
dice che una divisione e' normalmente 15,000 uomini - la versione
Polacca
ricorda vagamente il Pelato durante le sue avventure militari nella
seconda guerra
mondiale (passaggio da ternaria a binaria etc..) e conta piu'
modestamente
9,200 troops to take over its zone by September 1. 
The 2,300 Polish soldiers (ulteriore drammatico
ribasso) saranno complementati da, udite udite, 1,300 Spanish [SPAIN]
and
troops from UKRAINE (!!!) BULGARIA (!!) HUNGARY romania (gia' contata)
SLOVAKIA(!!) and the Baltic states (!! lithuania gia' contata, ci sta
pure LETTONIA
ed ESTONIA, suppongo). Osservate anche questi che, vi giuro, stanno 
proprio
scritti nero su bianco. Possible contributors included the PHILIPPINES
(!!!)
THAILAND (!!!) MONGOLIA (!!!!) & FIJI (!?!?!?!?!?!?!? il mio atlante
geografico da' le isole figi a 700 mila abitanti in *tutto* tuttavia
mandano
truppe in quel di Babilonia, viene da domandarsi quante ne mandano).
Al contrario di quelli summenzionati questi alleati dell'Impero
invece sono fin troppo entusiasti di starci in babilonia...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3048624.stm
e ohibo' se gli mettono la muserola allora gli bruciano le bandiere
imperiali pure...
ma te guarda che ingrati, l'Impero gli garantisce svariati decenni di
massacri
di curdi con impunita' assicurata e poi all'improvviso gli dice di
stare a cuccia
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3049590.stm
.. quindi gli imperiali hanno fatto inviperire la casta militare turca
che gli fa l'affronto di permettere simili dimostrazioni.. 
la situazione si fa interessante..
Sunday, 6 July, 2003, 16:27 GMT 17:27 UK  
Turks protest soldiers' detentions
Hundreds of demonstrators  have gathered outside the
American embassy in the Turkish capital, Ankara, to
protest against the detention of Turkish soldiers in Iraq by
US forces. 
About 250 people congregated  in front of the building shouting
"Free our soldiers," "America  out" and "We will not be America's
servants".
Giusto che parlavo di truppe
E' interessante notare che il FT del 2 July 2003 a pagina 3
sotto "Americans start to grow uneasy on postwar Iraq" dice
Poll number showed that while US casualty numbers are rising at an
average
of one per day, they are still far from being "unacceptable" to most
americans.
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/
mostra i dettagli di come ci hanno lasciato le strasse
i 251 legionari e alleati dall'inizio della campagna babilonese ad
oggi
(251 confirmed coalition deaths in the war as of July 4, 2003.).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
Friday, 4 July, 2003, 06:53 GMT 07:53 UK  
Timeline: US losses in Iraq  US Central Command has
reported the deaths of 57  American service personnel
in Iraq since 1 May when President Bush declared that
major combat was over. 
[..]
In the same period, UK forces  lost six servicemen
Bye

ancora non sei arrivato a quello sviluppo civile.
Per ora sei tu quello che non e' ancora arrivato a quello sviluppo
civile sufficente a capire la differenza tra un essere umano ed una casa
:)
-Stefano

 About 250 people congregated  in front of the building shouting
  ================
Azzo!  Ben 250 persone che secondo il Pirlissima(TM) rappresenterebbero
l'inviperita "casta militare turca"!!!
Si che so ca**i ora! :))
*ROTFL*
-Stefano

 arrivato a quello sviluppo civile.
Il codice di Hammurabi si riferiva a persone portate davanti ad un
giudice.
Quelle stavano aggredendo militari armati.
Mirco

 In the same period, UK forces  lost six servicemen
 
questo oggi:
Last Updated: Thursday, 10 July, 2003, 11:15 GMT 12:15 UK  
 
Timeline: US losses in Iraq
US Central Command has  reported the deaths of 68
American service personnel  in Iraq since 1 May when
President Bush declared that major combat was over.
per inciso e' interessante come le perdite babilonesi non
vengano manco menzionate, quando gli imperiali fanno le loro
operazioni si accenna appena ai caduti avversari sia essi
combattenti che civili scambiati come tali o colpiti come
"collateral damages". 
E' vero che il babilonese morto non fa notizia nell'Impero
ma almeno, il tenere la conta dei morti servirebbe a stimare
la dimensione dell'odio che viene seminato in quella provincia.
Bye

Il thread su google e' qui
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&frame=right&th=f4639d82b8cb2101&seekm=6196c429.0306141029.22d4a096%40posting.google.com#link1
ho notato una interessante notizia
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3056549.stm
Last Updated: Thursday, 10 July, 2003, 14:57 GMT 15:57 UK  
Iraqi oil deals up for grabs
The US military has invited   bids for two contracts -
worth up to $1bn (£611m) in   total - to put Iraq's oil
infrastructure back in order. 
The keenly-awaited two-year contracts replace a
controversial deal agreed in May, under which a subsidiary
of US firm Halliburton got the  work. 
 Halliburton was previously run by Dick Cheney, now US 
vice-president.
All US and eligible foreign companies - those that meet criteria
in US trade legislation - will be allowed to take part this time. 
The US Army Corps of Engineers said one contract would
cover fields in the north of Iraq, and the other the south, with
the exact final value dependent on the amount of work   necessary. 
 More details of the precise nature of the work will be
hammered out a conference in Dallas on 14 July. 
[..]
Bids for the contracts are due to be received by 14 August. 
a prescindere dagli sviluppi da seguire e' interessante
il fatto che l'Impero dia quantomeno la impressione di voler
gestire con dei proxies il petrolio babilonese, al che viene 
il dubbio che dopotutto anche questo abbia il suo peso...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3056035.stm
Last Updated: Thursday, 10 July, 2003, 16:04 GMT 17:04 UK  
Firms face risky Iraq business
The UK Foreign office continues to advise against
 "all but the most essential   travel" to Iraq but some
 businessmen have never  seen a better time to go. 
[..]
l'articolo merita anche perche ci sono i prezzi dei giubetti
antiproiettile (dalle 1,000 alle 1,500 sterline) piu' indicazioni
sui corsi da fare - insomma la Babilonia e' un bel posticino
tranquillo
anyway a proposito del perche' forse l'Impero dovra' usare dei
proxies...
[..]
 "I wouldn't advise any American businessman to go there
for at least another year or two as I'm sure they would be shot at,"
he said.
[..]
che non e' male come manifestazione di gratitudine da parte del
babilonese liberato dal vile tiranno - ma te guarda.
Bye

 3,900,000,000 / 365 = 10,648,931 $/giorno ovvero 445,205 $/ora -
Calcolando che avevano mandato qualcosa come 120000 soldati, vuol dire
meno di 4 dollari all'ora a testa :))
*LOL*
Mi sembra che siano costi ben minimi caro Pirlissima(TM), anzi che siano
addirittura sottopagati se era questo che volevi mostrare :))
*ROTFL*
-Stefano

 ed anche, quanto costano?
ed anche, ne arrivano altri? 
gli passa o non gli passa ai legionari di stare in quel di babilonia?
Partiamo dal fatto se gli passa o meno
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/archive/covers/0,16641,1101030714,00.html
  Non so se il link sara' attivo per sempre quindi descrivo a parole. 
  Copertina del TIME del Jul 14,2003. 
  Foto di legionario 
  (che tra l'altro mi fa sovvenire una domanda, ma la bandiera
americana
  usata come badge sulla spalla non dovrebbe essere orientata con le
stelle
  a sinistra (guardando la foto)? Qualcuno ha un link alla divisa
ufficiale?)
  che guarda verso l'alto con espressione non molto serena 
  titolo in evidenza "Peace is Hell" 
  Sottotitolo "Three months after Baghdad fell, Americans 
  are still struggling to bring order out of chaos. 
  Is this any way to run an occupation?" 
 
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/0,9263,1101030714,00.html
 
  titoli degli articoli (cut & paste) 
  Life Under Fire: Plagued by bad planning and fatal attacks, the U.S.
occupation remains dicey. Are Paul Bremer and the
  Bush Administration up to the task of making Iraq work? 
  Grounding Planes the Wrong Way: Coalition troops looted and
vandalized the Iraqi airport that now must be rebuilt
  un must read!! lo posto a parte per intero che e' troppo togo!
Ho precedentemente postato dei tentativi imperiali di arruolare 
  altre nazioni nella "coalizione" - era comparso a questo proposito 
il nome dell'India.
  Secondo gli ultimi sviluppi ecco il 2 di picche che l'India ha
rifilato all'Impero:
 
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3063465.stm
 
  Last Updated: Monday, 14 July, 2003, 11:15 GMT 12:15 UK  
  India rejects Iraq troop request 
 
  The Indian army fears being sucked into combat, defence analysts say
  The Indian Government has rejected a US request to send peacekeeping
troops to Iraq.
  Foreign Minister Yashwant Sinha said such a deployment could be
considered only under a United Nations mandate.
  The decision came after a meeting in Delhi on Monday of the cabinet
committee on security, headed by Prime Minister Atal
  Behari Vajpayee. 
  There had been widespread opposition from political parties and the
public to deploying peacekeepers without a UN
  mandate. 
   [..] 
  "India remains ready to respond to the urgent needs of the Iraqi
people... Were there to be an explicit UN mandate for the
  purpose, the government of India could consider the deployment of
our troops in Iraq."
  [..] 
  The initial US request for troops came during the visit to
Washington of Indian Deputy Prime Minister LK Advani last month.
  It was followed up by a team of US defence officials on a trip to
Delhi.
  The request was for 17,000 troops to bolster the force that is
trying to stabilise Iraq in the wake of the fall of President Saddam
  Hussein. 
  [..] 
  la cosa piu' interessante e' che gli scaltri Indiani la offerta
imperiale se la sono studiata e i loro conti se li sono fatti e..
  [..] 
  Opponents of the move pointed out that India would have to pay to
send its own troops into a country where, they argue, the
  US has not yet worked out how to establish stability. 
  A report in the Hindu newspaper on Sunday put the cost to India at
130m rupees ($2.8m) a year.
  [..] 
  Forte l'Impero nel suo reclutamento, volete un pezzo di Babilonia?
Spediteci i vostri armigeri a costo vostro
  e notate che il comando comunque se lo tiene l'Impero - sono dei
geni del marketing alla corte imperiale, davvero.
  In ogni caso il problema resta: 
 
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3058469.stm
 
  Last Updated: Friday, 11 July, 2003, 13:39 GMT 14:39 UK  
  US 'needs help in Iraq' 
  The Bush administration is coming under growing domestic pressure
over its Iraq strategy amid continuing attacks on US forces
  in the country. 
  The US Senate has voted unanimously to urge President George W Bush
to consider asking Nato and the United Nations for
  help in rebuilding Iraq.
  [..] 
  Vi sono varie quote da collezione, ovvero impensabili ai tempi
dell'invasione della provincia stessa
  Senator Carl Levin,  [..] expressed the hope that soldiers wearing
Nato insignia would not be targeted in Iraq
  with the same ferocity as their American counterparts. 
  Senator Edward Kennedy  "I'm now concerned that we have the world's
best-trained soldiers serving as policemen in
  what seems to be a shooting gallery" 
  [..] 
  The Senate warned that the final bill for reconstruction would run
into tens of billions of dollars over several years, and
  projected that Iraqi oil revenues will not cover those costs.
  Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has said that the cost of
continuing military operations in Iraq is running at $3.9bn a
  month, higher than anticipated.
  [..] 
  e giusto per finire di nuovo sul tema iniziale, ovvero se
ai legionari gli passa (o non gli passa) di stare in Babilonia...
 
 
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3066983.stm
 
  Last Updated: Tuesday, 15 July, 2003, 08:55 GMT 09:55 UK  
  US forces not going home soon 
  No end in sight 
  American soldiers who had been expecting to be sent home from Iraq
soon have been told they will remain in the Gulf
  indefinitely. 
  The army announced that much of the Third Infantry Division is to
stay in place due to ongoing attacks against coalition
  forces. 
  Soldiers - and their families - reacted with dismay to the news that
they would not be home in September as they had hoped
Bye

  con le stelle  a sinistra (guardando la foto)? Qualcuno ha un link alla > 
divisa ufficiale?)
E' un'usanza delle FFAA USA: la bandiera che di solito sta come dici tu
(sulla spalla sinistra e orientata nel modo giusto) quando un soldato e'
stato in zona di combattimento viene scucita e ricucita sull'altra spalla
necessariamente ribaltata.
ciao
Ale
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stay in place due to ongoing attacks against coalition forces.
Peccato che non dice che vi debbano stare INDEFINITAMENTE :)))
*LOL*
-Stefano

 Ale

 President Bush declared that major combat was over.
che segna il pareggio (vedi sotto)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
Timeline: US losses in Iraq 
US Central Command has reported the deaths of 70
American service personnel in Iraq since 1 May when
President Bush declared that major combat was over. 
altri dati interessanti
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3070223.stm
At the start of the war there were more than 115,000 US
 
      At the start of the war there were more than 115,000 US
ground troops in the Gulf alongside 26,000 from the UK. 
Since then the US has increased its forces to 148,000
while the UK contribution has dropped to 11,000.        
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/07/16/sprj.irq.main/index.html
  According to the Pentagon, 222 U.S. troops have been killed in Iraq,
including 148 in hostile fire, since the conflict began in
  March. In the 1991 Persian Gulf War, there were 148 battle deaths
and 145 deaths in nonhostile incidents

 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/59/29974.html
 
In questo thread ho parlato anche della Worldcom 
http://212.100.234.54/content/7/31611.html
Judge waves through Worldcom $750m settlement
By Drew Cullen
Posted: 08/07/2003 at 07:51 GMT
The disgraced company formerly known as Worldcom has received court
 approval for the revised proposed settlement over SEC penalties for
the
biggest accounting fraud in history. 
e' interessante leggersi la dichiarazione delle Pantere Grigie
che sono, giustamente, alla caccia della grana della loro pensione
che la Worldcom si e' pappata - se avete letto il thread ricordate
che la reincarnazione (in senso aziendale) della Worldcom si era
beccata un contratto in quel di Babilonia.
Bye
P.S. continua con la futura analisi del bid e di chi lo vince

 
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/archive/covers/0,16641,1101030714,00.html
Perche' mancino? Ha la sua bandiera ''da spalla sinistra'' sulla
spalla destra e, quindi, con le stelle dalla parte sbagliata.
Ciao
Ale

 Ale

 ora a meno che stia soffrendo il  caldo 
Fermo la', si sto soffrendo il caldo. Non so com'e' la lungo l'Isar dove
stai te ma qui intra Tevere et Arno si muore.
Ciao


Sono lieto di presentare la  citazione perduta (da me mentre
riordinavo il
pacco dei ritagli) che spiega perche' 
gli Imperiali avevano la bava alla bocca circa gli appalti, e'
abbastanza avanti nel post.
FINANCIAL TIMES JULY 18 2003
Expectations weight heavy on man who must get oil flowing again
[ Adil Qazzaz direttore della North Oil Company ] NOC produces 550,000
barrels a
day, or 2/3 of Iraq's total at the moment, but it is unable to export
because this month saboteurs blew up the Iraq-Turkey export pipeline
for
the second time. [..] The US Army Corps of Engineers openend bidding
on July 9
for contracts worth a total $1 bn to reahbilitate Iraq's oil
infrastructure,
replacing at least part of the controversial contract it handed
exclusively
to Brown and Root [..] One European Oil executive says "It is fair
to say that tthis is all a lot more complicated than anyone expected,
including the US"
a proposito di petrolio, sulla stessa pagina (la 6) c'e' l'articolo
sul colpo di
stato a Sao Tome  "in the tiny oil-rich African nation of Sao Tome",
come
dire "bring in Empire's Legions" vista la grandezza di Sao Tome
all'Impero
gli bastera' una centuria o due. 
FINANCIAL TIMES pag 11 April 28 2003
ai tempi che all'impero gli andava ancora bene 
"How often do countries change regimes - especially ones that have the
world's
second largest oil reserves?" (la frase e' virgolettata perche; cita
Judith Barnett
a former Commerce Department official during the Clinton
administration)
che cosi' si esprimeva nel sottotitolo:
"the rush to secure contracts to rebuild Iraq and the awarding of the
first wave of deals
is causing as much debate as the decision to wage  war"
Notare che all'epoca non era ancora partito il dibattito sul mancato
ritrovamento
delle armi di *distrazione* di massa.
The baker insitute for public policy at rice university esimates that
about
$5 bn will be required just to return the Iraq's oil production to
pre-1991 levels.
Da segnarsi se e quando ci si arriva a quel livelo, recentemente la
BBC riporta
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3071159.stm
 
Wednesday, 16 July, 2003, 15:44 GMT 16:44 UK
 Iraq rebuilding 'could cost $90bn'  [..] Iraq's oil industry would
need $35bn-40bn - the lion's
share of  any investment - to increase production to 6 million-7
million
barrels a day (b/d) by 2010, according to McKinsey. 
beh insomma vediamo quando arriva il conto chi ha ragione
presoguendo sul citato FT c'e' anche questa che e' da segnarsi che
e' carina .. conservative members of the US congress - fresh from
their
"freedom fries" triumph - have issued divisive calls to bar French and
German companies
from participating in the process because of their governments'
opposition to the war.
buhahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha nemmeno tre mesi dopo gli imperiali
sono
in ginocchio a implorare truppe dai paesi piu' incredibili (tipo
India, che gli ha dato
il due di picche) o a chiedere maggior coinvolgimento dell UN della
NATO o di
chiunque in grado di tirarli fuori dalla palude in cui si sono
cacciati.
Anyway ecco la citazione perduta:
Optimistic bidder have overshot their estimates before: US companies
clamoured
for business in Kuwait following the first Gulf War, with analysts
predicting that
the region's budget for the reconstruction would top $100 bn. The
department
of commerce created a special liason office to assis US companies.
And lobbyists trekked to the desert to pitch for their clients,
including James
Baker who, after leaving the State department, made a courtesy call on
behalf of (occhio che e' carina) ENRON.
But it turned out to be a mirage. A few years later, REBULDING COSTS
TOTALLED
ABOUT $25BN AND US COMPANIES TOOK LESS THAN HALF THAT AMOUNT.
questa e' parte della la citazione perduta, la parte finale e' quella
di un vassallo
dell"impero che si lamentava che erano arrivati a fare affari e si
sono trovati a
passare sui ponti gia' costruiti dai franco-tedeschi.
Unlike Afghanistan or Bosnia there are hopes that a robust consuer
market of
Iraq's 24m people will develop once the economy is reformed. More
important,
Iraq's massive supply of oil should provide a ready cahs flow to pay
for
future projects. "this is the big one" says one business lobbyist
"everyone
is saying, how do we get in on this?' "
Questo lo riportava il FT del 28 Aprile 2003 direi che ci sta bene
accostare
questo nella lettura
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3079531.stm
Last Updated: Saturday, 19 July, 2003, 10:20 GMT 11:20 UK  
 US soldier killed in Iraq
Another US soldier has been  killed by shot dead in Iraq, as
[..]
The soldier, from the First  Armoured Division, was killed
near a bank in Baghdad early on  Saturday when his position was
attacked with small arms and rocket-propelled grenade fire. 
His death brings to 149 the number of US soldiers killed in Iraq
since the invasion in March. 
[..]
con buona pace del lobbista che in Aprile pensava al business,
apparentemente
gli Imperiali devono ancora pensare a schivare le pallottole.
Anyway sono lieto di presentare la citazione perduta:
The director-general of one UK business association summed up the
mood:
"after kosovo, we did the decent thing and waited a few months before
going
on a trade mission with ministers, only to discover we were being
driven over
bridges already rebuilt by French and German companies. We re
determined to make sure this does't happen again"
Spero che si noti come questo atteggiamento trasuda di simpatia
 per le sorti dei babilonesi liberati dal vile tiranno.  
Ah, ho piegato il giornale per metterlo via, sulla prima pagina ci sta
"Bush welcomes home fighters to mark victory in Iraq" APR 28 2003
Ad oggi pare che la terza legione in Babilonia ci sta e ci resta pure,
visto chee non e' chiaro  quando puo' tornare, anzi si parla di
mandare piu' truppe.
E' sempre interessante far confronti a posteriori....
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3052158.stm
Last Updated: Monday, 7 July, 2003, 16:12 GMT 17:12 UK  
US general denies troop shortage
The man who led US-led forces in Iraq has rejected
claims that occupying American troops are
vulnerable because they lack  the numbers to defend themselves. 
(a quel tempo il totale dei legionari stirati nel dopo vittoria del 1
maggio era 30)
Bye

 balzato all'occhio un dettaglio..
che e' questo FINANCIAL TIMES del June 10, prima pagina
titolo "saddam becomes noteworthy again" e' un gioco di parole visto
che vuol dire "degno di nota" ma "note" e' anche la moneta cartacea
when they stormed into baghdad in mid-april US troops did their best
to blast away, paint over, or haul done every image of Saddam Hussein.
But now, faced with a revolt by public sector employees, the coalition
authority have resorted to printing fresh banknotes featuring the
smiling face of the defeated dictator.
[..] "there is no national authority in Iraq at the moment to change
the design of the banknotes" Mr Salman [acting head of the central
bank]
told reuters news agency yesterday.
che uno pensa, chissa' se si sono consultati con i burocrati imperialo
di cui  al precedente articolo. La faccenda si conclude poi qui:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3052642.stm
Last Updated: Monday, 7 July, 2003, 20:12 GMT 21:12 UK  
Iraq to adopt new currency
Iraq will replace its existing currencies with a new dinar,
according the US civil  administrator Paul Bremer. 
The new dinar will supersede notes used in the south of the
country that currently carry images of the former president
Saddam Hussein.
[..]
Il console imperiale Bremer stabilisce poi per decreto il
tasso di cambio ed il phase-out della vecchia moneta
[..]
Officials were forced to continue printing the Saddam notes in
denominations of 250 after the war in an effort to stem a
growing cash crisis. 
[..]
questa e' carina:
[..]
The British company De La  Rue, based in Basingstoke,
Hampshire, is negotiating to win the contract to print the new
currency, which will be available in six denominations of up to
25,000 dinars.
 
"The company will lead a consortium of global currency
specialists to manufacture the banknotes," De La Rue said in a
statement. 
The banknotes are also expected to be of higher quality than
current notes in circulation with added security features. 
Shares in De La Rue rose 9% on the news. 
[..]
soprattutto questa ultima notizia penso fara' felici i babilonesi
che ancora attendono di essere (ri)allacciati ad una rete elettrica
o idrica funzionante.
attenzione poi a questa
[..]
Mr Bremer also announced on Monday that he had approved a
new budget of 9 trillion dinar ($6.5bn, £4bn at street
exchange rates) for the second half of 2003. 
"This is a very important step in getting Iraq and Iraqis back
to work," he said. 
"With this budget, ministries will be able to spend money on
important projects. Many state companies will be able to
begin operating again." 
Half of the revenues are expected to come from oil sales, he added. 
Che non so se il console tiene nella dovuta attenzione la opinione
dei babilonesi che gli hanno fatto saltare per la seconda volta
l'oleodotto Turchia - Nord Iraq.
Bye

 (postero' piu' avanti il FT su questo argomento)
[..]
avendo in mente che l'impero del bene oltre a liberare il mondo dalle
armi di *distrazione* di massa e' andato li a liberare i babilonesi
stessi..
FINANCIAL TIMES May 9
"US Knows it cannot be choosy about its Iraq appointess - for now"
sottotitolo "Ba'athists may win jobs in the interests of getting the
work
done, but an incoming Iraqi regime will vet them"
bisogna essere delle vere teste da battipalo per immaginarsi che, dopo
essere re-insediato al potere, il Batista riceve il nuovo governo che
gli dice di accomodarsi, ma anyway, lasciamo perdere che l'articolo
e' interessante per le citazioni degli imperiali
US forces in Baghdad have acknowledged that they cannot be too choost
about the
Iraqi personell they appoint to senior jobs during the initial phase
of the
occupation. But a senior general told the FT that such officials
would be subject to vetting by any incoming Iraqi administration.
giusto per sottolineare che la testa da battipalo e' un esperto
generale
imperiale e non certo il giornalista dell'FT che queste cose le
riporta solo.
Altri fessi allo sbaraglio ecco cosa dice il Major General Carl Strock
 [..]
unofficially known as the "Major of baghdad" [..] "what we are doing
now isputting back in place the establishment that existed before the
war,
LESS THOS PEOPLE WHAT WE KNOW WERE HARDLINE BA'ATHISTS. So we are
doing
screening process [..] and then apponting"
purtroppo non dice cosa sia un baathista linea dura, tipo se ha
ammazzato
meno di cento curdi (o sciti o oppositori assortiti) e' linea morbida
dai centouno ai duecento linea intermedia, sopra i duecento linea
dura,
la mente vacilla, e questa testa da battipalo gestisce pure baghdad..
prima di metter via questa pagina dell FT noto il titolo  sempre a
pagina 6
ad otto colonne (sempre may 9) 
IRANIAN MONARCHIST EXILES SEEK PACT WITH US
"united by their desire for regime change in Iran and encouraged by
the
overthrow of the Iraqui regime, exiled Iranian monarchists are
developing
an alliance in Washington with influential neo-conservatives AS WELL
AS PENTAGON OFFICIALS AND ISRAELI LOBBY GROUPS.
[..]
LIKE MR CHALABI, THE EXILED PRINCE HAS COURTED SUPPORT FROM ISRAELI
LOBBY
GROUPS IN WASHINGTON, SUCH AS THE RIGHTWING JEWISH INSTITUTE FOR
NATIONAL
SECURITY AFFAIRS WHSE BOARD HE HAS ADDRESSED. IN SOME RULING CIRCLES
IN ISRAEL THERE IS A STRONG SENSE OF NOSTALGIA FOR THE DAYS BEFPRE THE
1979
ISLAMIC REVOLUTION WHEN ISRAEL AND THE SHAH OF IRAN ENJOYED A CLOSE
ALLIANCE.
un genio del marketing questo wannabe scia', magari gia' sogna di
intascarsi un bel percento del petrolio iraniano governando dal
palazzo
circondato dalle legioni imperiali -  dubito che  un iraniano medio
che sia contro il regime teocratico sia pronto ad accetare come
monarca
uno che cerca di riallacciare i rapporto con ... israele...
comunque questa stupidita' va messa nel contesto di Maggio era da 
9 giorni che l'imperatore aveva dichiarato vittoria.. Rumsfeld gia'
si vedeva in parata per le strade di Teheran, piovevano appalti
sulle ditte degli amici... certo dopo che viene stirato
una media di un legionario al giorno in quel di babilonia..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3081135.stm
Last Updated: Sunday, 20 July, 2003, 07:03 GMT 08:03 UK  
Two US soldiers killed in Iraq 
 Two soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division have been
killed and another injured in northern Iraq, the US military
[..]
..le cose cambiano. Si e' scoperto infatti che l'imperatore non aveva 
dichiarato vittoria ma solo la fine delle "operazioni principali"
[..]
At least 34 US soldiers have been killed in action since 1 May
when President W Bush declared that major combat was over.
[..]
ma te guarda.
Torniamo comunque al Financial Times, Maggio 9, gli imperiali
dicono che piazzano si ex-baatisti ma non gli "hardliner" e comunque
fanno loro il controllo circa il background.
Al 1 July mi schiantavo dalle risate leggendo 
FINANCIAL TIMES JULY 1 page 6 (titolo a 6 colonne)
AMERICANS ARREST MAN THEY MADE MAYOR OF NAJAF
The US-led interim administration in Iraq said yesterday it had
arrested the
recently appointed major of the southern religious center of Najaf
Se googlate la traslitterazione deve essere quella inglese standard,
altre parole chiave Abu Haydar Abdul Mun'im (il tizio arrestato)
il quale evidentemente non e' un hardliner essendo accusato di soli
"kidnapping, holding hostages, attacking a bank official and theft"
quota del portavoce imperiale circa la procedura imperiale di
selezione
"we clearly made a mistake with this chap".
Saranno contenti i babilonesi, soprattutto per le diverse
condizioni di vita offerte dall'impero, tutti ricordano le terribili
prigioni del malvagio tiranno babilonese, ora invece i babilonesi
possono usufruire... "the conditions iraqi are held
under at the Camp Cropper Center at Baghdad International Airport
- now a US base - and at Abu Ghraib Prison may amount to 
cruel, inhman or degradating treatment or punishment, banned
buy international law" [Amnesty International] said
.. delle terribili prigioni imperiali. Guarda un po' che
miglioramento.
Bye

 given a year and $48m (£28.7m) to create a new Iraqi army. 
 
ecco:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3080549.stm
Last Updated: Saturday, 19 July, 2003, 17:24 GMT 18:24 UK  
Iraqis report to join new army
Hundreds of Iraqis have  queued up to fill in
application forms to join a  new Iraqi army on the first
day of recruitment. 
[..]
"It's a wonderful opportunity for
these guys to get a job," Captain Jim Hickman of the US First
Armoured Division told French news agency AFP. 
mi domando se lo pensera' ancora dopo che gli sparano con le 
armi cosi' gentilmente fornite dal contribuente americano,
i criteri di selezione del nuovo esercito sono stringenti:
The new army will be open to men aged between 18 and 40. 
Among those who will not be able to join are: 
Those who held the rank of colonel or above in the old army 
Those who occupied the top four tiers of the Baath Party 
Any former members of the Special Republican Guard,
the secret police or the intelligence services 
Those found guilty of human rights violations. 
Many of the applicants appeared to be former Iraqi soldiers -
lured by the prospect of a pay packet of at least $60 a month. 
mah!
Bye

miglioramento.
E se lo dice Amnesty che deve ancora mostrare tutte ste torture a cui
sono sottoposti i prigionieri di Guantanamo, che poi vengono rilasciati
e affermano che dopo 18 mesi e una 40ina di interrogatori non sono stati
toccati manco con un dito :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

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Alessa' tu non ti sei fritto solo l'Hard disc ........mi sa` che , come me
per la febbre alta , ti sei fritto l'inquilino dell'attico , ma son sicuro
che la fotografia e`stampata destra/sinistra , per queste ragioni il campo
blu e` in alto a destra e non a sinistra ( insomma la fotografia e`
speculare ).
Ciao
Giano

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(Come al solito ho sbagliato a inserire questo al posto giusto...porcaccia!)
Alessa' tu non ti sei fritto solo l'Hard disc ........mi sa` che , come me
per la febbre alta , ti sei fritto l'inquilino dell'attico , ma son sicuro
che la fotografia e`stampata destra/sinistra , per queste ragioni il campo
blu e` in alto a destra e non a sinistra ( insomma la fotografia e`
speculare ).
Caldo in Italia , eh !! beati voi.
C'e` acqua nell'Arno ?  No  ??
Un fascistello marca DJ , amico  della turba fascistella dei militi della
Folgore , mi ha detto che loro vengono sempre a salvarvi il culo dalle piene
dell'Arno.....mi chiedo se con la siccita` di questi giorni non vengano a
salvarvi l'Arno dalle piene del culo  !!!
Ciao
Giano
Ciao
Giano

 announced on Thursday.  
 
il momento umoristico e' fornito dai, suppongo Kuwaitiani, rappresentanti
della MTC-Vodafone che.. leggere per credere
http://money.cnn.com/2003/07/22/news/international/iraq_phones.reut/index.htm
 
Wireless service surprises Baghdad
Cellphones mysteriously work in Iraqi capital before 
U.S.-backed administration issues licenses.
July 22, 2003: 7:47 AM EDT
  BAGHDAD, Iraq (Reuters) - A mobile phone roaming service was 
mysteriously available in Baghdad on Tuesday, bringing cellular 
service -- banned in Saddam Hussein's secret state -- to ordinary 
people in the Iraqi capital for the first time. 
Yet officially, a tender for three mobile phone licenses the U.S.-led
administration plans to offer across Iraq has yet to take
place. A U.S. military spokesman could not immediately say why the phones
were working or what that meant for the tender. 
The service providers involved were unavailable for comment. 
Callers with foreign registered GSM phones were able to make and receive 
calls and send text messages to countries as far away as the United States 
and South Africa. Few Iraqis have suitable phones for now. 
Foreigners working in Baghdad have widely relied on pricey 
satellite telephones to stay in touch. 
"MTC-Vodafone wishes you a pleasant stay in Kuwait," a text message sent 
to roamers in Baghdad said. Other cellphone users reported they had briefly
had service on a Bahraini network, Batelco. That went off the air later. 
An MTC-Vodafone service representative reached via a mobile phone using 
his own company's network from Baghdad told Reuters he was not aware of 
roaming services being offered there yet. 
"That's great...But they didn't tell us," he said. 
[..] 
Iraq has not yet decided whether to use U.S. technology or the rival, 
more widespread European GSM system that is used throughout the rest 
of the Middle East. 
But the issue of what technology will be chosen for the national networks
has become increasingly thorny. 
A decision to use the global system for mobile communications (GSM)
standard, widely used in Europe, would be a blow to U.S.
firms hoping to build a wireless network in Iraq based on the CDMA 
(code division multiple access) standard developed by
California-based Qualcomm Inc. (QCOM: Research, Estimates) 
GSM technology would allow Iraqi cellphone users to travel to 
neighboring countries without changing phones. 
The U.S. Army and development workers now use a network in Baghdad built 
by WorldCom Inc, a bankrupt U.S. telecom firm
that is doing business under the name MCI. 
alcuni dettagli tecnici per capire meglio il contesto:
1) tirar su una rete di telefonia mobile non e' difficile soprattutto
se non si va a sottilizzare sulla copertura e sulla ottimizzazione
del servizio stesso (esempio banale se la densita' degli autenti aumenta 
la dimensione della cella ottimale decresce onde evitare che una
singola base station sia saturata dalle richieste di connessione)
2) una volta che si e' in rete  si puo chiamare ovunque quindi il commento
"countries as far away as the United States  and South Africa." tradisce
una qualche confusione del giornalista, chiamare la Giordania o il Giappone
e' uguale e funziona comunque, mandare un SMS con la Giordania che e' in GSM
pure ma non cosi' in Giappone che non e' GSM.
3) CDMA vs GSM, a parte che ci sono degli sviluppi anche nell'Impero
stesso, vedi post parallelo a questo la differenza base e' la seguente.
Qualcomm sogna di diventare la Microsoft della telefonia mobile
e di arricchirsi con le royalties in quanto il sistema e' suo propietario,
per contro il GSM e' abbastanza aperto.
dettagli commerciali sulla cultura e poi bancarotta della worldcom 
sono disponibili qui:
http://212.100.234.54/content/7/31151.html
Reports slam WorldCom corporate culture 
[..]
Elsewhere, e-mails uncovered by the Special Investigative Committee put
Lucy Woods, who previously headed WorldCom's UK operations, in an
extremely bad light. 
Woods claimed she had been instructed by US management not to discuss
certain numbers when she met WorldCom's UK auditors, Arthur Andersen. In
an e-mail to US management, Woods mentions "getting through the meeting"
with Andersen without showing them certain detailed figures and "pretending
ignorance" on capital expenditure and asset impairment. A reply from Woods'
ultimate US superior, CFO Scott Sullivan, congratulated her for her handling
of the UK auditors, writing, "Thanks Lucy! Great job!" 
[..]
 
Bye

 > 
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Issa+Qualcomm+District
 
detto questo, pare proprio che il GSM andra' a sconfiggere il CDMA in casa...
http://212.100.234.54/content/68/31758.html
 
GSM to overtake CDMA in USA 
 
By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco 
Posted: 15/07/2003 at 22:40 GMT 
When Nokia repeated its prediction that the global GSM standard could grab 
half of the US cellphone market, we were skeptical. Thanks to adoption 
by Verizon and SprintPCS networks, CDMA phones grabbed a seemingly 
impregnable lead in the United States. But the latest prediction from 
ABI Research suggests that the GSM family of standards, which
includes GPRS, could overtake CDMA in a couple of years.
ABI pegs this year's numbers as 73 million CDMA handsets , or a 44 per 
cent share, versus 58 million, or a 35 per cent share. The latter is a 
dramatic increase from 11 per cent last year, thanks to AT&T Wireless 
moving from TDMA to GSM/GPRS.
According to the analyst company, GSM will draw level next year, 45 to 44 
per cent, and nudge ahead in 2005. The share of others, which includes 
Nextel's iDEN will fall to 8 per cent. For the rest of the period for which 
ABI has made forecasts, GSM and CDMA technologies duke it out with scarcely 
a per centage point of difference between them.
Overall ABI sees plenty of growth yet in the US market. It suggests 
subscriber numbers will grow from 165 million this
year to 204 million in 2008. Ž
Bootnote: Nokia has its own typically understated observation to make about 
the politics of cellular standards. In a brochure showcasing business
applications for the Series 60 platform, dated June 2003, the very 
excellent Opera browser is illustrated. The choice of story is interesting: 
a CNET report about Congressman Issa advocating that Congress ensure that
the Iraqis are free to use only the very best CDMA networks
Se leggete l'originale su 'the register' trovate il link alla storia
di Issa - forti comunque alla Nokia, hanno messo la foto di Opera aperto
sulle gesta di sto babbeo in una brochure.
Bye

251 confirmed  coalition deaths in the war as of July 4, 2003.).
se lo si apre in data odierna:
 
There have been 275 confirmed coalition deaths in the war as of July 21, 2003.
The casualty list below reflects the names of the U.S. and British troops 
whose families have been notified. This list is updated daily.
ripeto che l'ordine e' alfabetico, per essere aggiornati su cio' che
accade  meglio la 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
 
in quanto essa riporta in ordine cronologico con l'evento piu' recente sempre 
in cima, notare che e' piu' scarsa circa i dettagli tattici. 
(3) last but not least, ma quanto li pagano sti legionari?
How much a soldier is paid 
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3084407.stm
 
Last Updated: Monday, 21 July, 2003, 17:51 GMT 18:51 UK  
  US soldiers' conditions in Iraq 
American soldiers in Iraq are coming under attack 
With American soldiers serving in Iraq suffering casualties and fatalities 
on almost a daily basis, BBC News Online's Lucy Jones looks at their 
conditions and pay. 
Basic pay: 
A private - the rank of Jessica Lynch who was captured by the Iraqis but 
then famously by American special forces - gets paid between $1,528 and $1,824 
a month, if they have served between three and four years in
the military. 
A captain serving up to six years could get paid up to $4,069 a month. 
Generals serving 20 years get paid $11,847 a month. 
Putroppo non dicono se netto o meno.
But on top of basic pay there are a number of allowances. 
American soldiers receive a housing allowance, which depends on where they live.
They also get paid a basic allowance for subsistence of $242 a month. However,
soldiers in Iraq do not get this, as food is provided.
Tenetevi a mente questo quando in fondo dicono cosa mangiano
 
Hazard pay: 
With the threat of injury and death ever present, US soldiers are entitled 
to hostile pay. That amount when the war began was $150 a month. Now, it has 
been increased to $225 a month. 
Nota: e' interessante notare che la paga di incrementa *dopo* che l'imperatore
ha dichiarato vittoria ovvero, come recita l'ultima delle notizie, quando
a dichiarato non la vittoria ma la sola "fine delle operazioni principali"
Holidays: 
All soldiers accumulate two-and-a-half days holiday for every month 
worked - amounting to 30 days a year.
The average American gets two weeks of holiday a year. 
Free time while on duty in Iraq: 
Free time depends on a soldier's unit. 
Personnel working in the United States Central Command (USCC) in Baghdad 
can usually take one day off a week. 
A GI will usually work eight hours a day but a mechanic - when there is 
nothing do - may find he has a lot of free time on his hands. 
There is not much for an American soldier to do in Iraq. They are confined to 
the "green zone" - an area defined by barbed wire the size of which depends 
on where they are serving. 
The public relations section of USCC is located in a wired-off area which 
covers about two miles (3.2 kilometres) but sometimes this area can comprise 
just a couple of streets. 
"There's nothing much to do except perhaps write a letter. Some play with a
football. Others play pocket video games," a spokesman for USCC in Baghdad 
told BBC News Online. 
Alcohol is banned. 
Communication with home: 
Most soldiers do not have access to telephones or the internet. Communication
with home is solely by letter. 
Soldiers can post as many letters as they want a week for free but packages 
have to be paid for and are censored. 
Packages containing food can be received from friends and family. 
Daily chores: 
Soldiers have to perform latrine duties and clean their living quarters daily. 
They will also from time to time be responsible for collecting water and food
supplies. 
Showers are rationed. Many soldiers are allowed one shower a week. 
Rations: 
Soldiers generally are given two Meal Ready Eat (MREs) a day, plus one hot meal
which is usually breakfast or dinner. 
bisogna avere come unica alternativa la morte per fame per accettare
di farsi sparare addosso per 1,500-1,800 $ piu' 225$ di indennita' di
rischio - doccia una volta alla settimana (confrontare la lista dei
legionari, ce ne sono anche di morti annegati...) niente telefono
o internet ma solo lettere, quanto al mangiare cibo in scatola DUE volte 
al giorno piu' UN pasto caldo.  
In queste condizioni i legionari vanno fuori per servizio, 
i babilonesi dalla felicita' di vederli gli tirano delle  pietre
addosso (se gli va bene al legionario, se no e' un RPG) e loro 
rispondono sparando sulla folla innescando cosi' una
spirale di azione e reazione con buona pace del Rumsfeld e dei 
suoi piani di dominazione mondiale.
Bye

 sono disponibili qui:
Che non c'entrano una sega con l'Iraq :)
-Stefano

niente telefono o internet
Non mi risulta risponda al vero visto che molti blog sono tenuti da
soldati in Iraq :)
-Stefano

 July 22, 2003: 7:47 AM EDT
 
.. alla rete fai da te with a vengeance 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3095213.stm
Friday, 25 July, 2003, 10:36 GMT 11:36 UK 
Phone services spring up in Iraq
Mobile phone networks are springing up in Iraq even
before the occupation authorities get round to
handing out official licences. 
[..]
Batelco has spent about $5m in the past month bringing in
base stations and other equipment, which are tied into the
outside world via satellite terminals. 
[..]
Its officials [Della Balteco] told the Associated Press that despite 
the lack of a licence, they believed the CPA did not have a problem 
with its activities, since troops were happily allowing its equipment
into the country. 
il che secondo me da bene l'idea della caos che deve regnare 
tra  gli imperiali che se vi fosse una parvenza di organizzazione
qualcuno si porrebbe il problema delle licenze - ma tant'e' -
cavillano sul fatto che offrono solo il roaming agli user 
provenienti da altre reti ma non offrono servizi ai babilonesi stessi,
indeed, viene da dire salvo quelli che si sono procurati una SIM 
formalmente venduta al di fuori della babilonia.
[..]
At present, only two official mobile networks exist. 
One, in Baghdad, is run under the name MCI by bankrupt US
telecoms firm WorldCom for US personnel. 
The other covers the south and is run by MTC-Vodafone, a
consortium operated out of Kuwait which welcomed users with
text messages wishing them "a pleasant stay in Kuwait". 
Both are based on the GSM mobile standard, used by 60
million people in 20 neighbouring Arab countries and also by
about 70% of mobile users worldwide. 
[..]
un reminder per chi non sa ancora chi sia quel fesso di Issa
Even so, Darrell Issa - a US congressman from California - has
in the past called for the CPA to mandate the use of the
CDMAOne standard developed by Qualcomm, a California
company from which he has received campaign contributions.

 "kidnapping, holding hostages, attacking a bank official and theft"
Bye

 > > announced on Thursday.  
 
BONUS TRACK!
fresco dal sito dell FT e interamente catpastato (sono in vena
di neologismi) che non so se resta on-line o passa in archivio;
ecco un articolo che merita la lettura se non altro per questo 
spaccato su, come dire, una azienda davvero 'customer oriented' 
Afghan phone users eager for connections
By Victoria Burnett in Kabul
Published: July 28 2003 5:00 
Afghanistan's frustrated mobile phone users hope to start enjoying the
fruits
of competition this week as the country's second wireless
telecommunications
 provider enters the nascent market.
Telecom Development Company Afghanistan, which in October won the
country's
second GSM licence, launched its new service, Roshan - or "new light"
-
yesterday.
The company has so far invested about $55m and will invest a total of
$120m over
10 years. Along with its competitor, the incumbent Afghan Wireless
Communication
Company, it represents one of the largest foreign investments in the
country
since the fall of the Taliban in late 2001.
TDCA is owned by a consortium that includes Monaco Telecom
International, with 35
per cent, US-based MCT (9 per cent) and Alcatel (5 per cent). The Aga
Khan Fund
for Economic Development has 51 per cent.
Karim Khoja, TDCA's chief executive, says he hopes to claim about 50
per cent of
the market by the end of the year and be the number one by next July.
"We believe that just by treating people like human beings, giving
them good
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
service, we can attract subscribers," said Mr Khoja, in a thinly
veiled
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
reference to Kabul's notoriously unreliable existing service.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AWCC won a licence to operate from the Taliban in 1999 and has so far
invested
$70m, but it did not set up business in Afghanistan until April last
year. It has
done brisk business in the hungry market, where its service provides
the sole
alternative to satellite phones or a network of about 9,000 landlines.
The
company is 80 per cent owned by privately held Telephone Systems
International of
New Jersey, with the Afghan government owning the remaining stake.
il governo afgano, ovvero l'ex consulente petrolifero ora messo a fare
l'uomo di paglia dell'Impero e una compagnia imperiale che, spero lo
abbiate notato, aveva vinto la licenza dai talebani - mi raccomando
mettete questo articolo vicino a quelli in cui gli imperiali dicono
che
i contratti per il petrolio babilonese fatti all'epoca del vile
tiranno
vanno tutti ridiscussi, magari archiviatelo 
come "double standard, explanation of"
But as mobile phone use has expanded - AWCC says it has 50,000
subscribers
service has faltered, with outages lasting days, fading signals and
dropped calls
frequent.
Roshan's start-up fee will be higher than AWCC's, with SIM cards going
for $110-$135.
Bye

che, spero lo abbiate notato, aveva vinto la licenza dai talebani -
Ma che potrebbe essere stata confermata dal GOVERNO AFGHANO che ha
comprato parte della compagnia :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

 
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&frame=right&th=f4639d82b8cb2101&seekm=6196c429.0306141029.22d4a096%40posting.google.com#link1
  E' fine mese ed e' tempo di tirare i bilanci sui legionari stirati in
  quel di Babilonia,
  vi sono varie risorse in rete, che possono essere leggermente in ritardo
  con gli 
  aggiornamenti, come
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
  che alle 11:00 di oggi (29 July) riporta:
  Last Updated: Thursday, 24 July, 2003, 13:50 GMT 14:50 UK    
  Timeline: US losses in Iraq
  US Central Command has reported the deaths of 83 American service
  personnel in Iraq since 
  1 May when President Bush declared that major combat was over
  Una altra lista e' la
 
http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/
  che sempre alla stessa ora riporta 
  There have been 289 confirmed coalition deaths in the war as 
  of July 28, 2003. The casualty list below reflects the names of the U.S.
  and British 
  troops whose families have been notified. This list is updated daily.
  Alle volte compare sul sito CNN un cosidetto "CNN interattivo" che oggi
  alle 11:00 (CET) mostra
  sotto forma di istogramma i seguenti dati.
  As of Jul 27, 245 US troops killed, hostile acts have accounted for 163
  of the deaths
  while 82 are attributed to non-hostile causes.
  MARCH Total 65 - Hostile deaths: 57  Non Hostile deaths: 08 
			Note: from March 20
  APRIL Total 73 - Hostile deaths: 58  Non Hostile deaths: 15  
  MAY-- Total 37 - Hostile deaths: 07  Non Hostile deaths: 30 
			Note: 1 Maggio nota dichiarazione dell'Imperatore
  JUNE- Total 28 - Hostile deaths: 17  Non Hostile deaths: 11
  JULY- Total 42 - Hostile deaths: 24  Non Hostile deaths: 18 
			Note: through July 27
  giusto per riferimento 
  "In the 1991 Persian Gulf War, there were 148 battle deaths and 145
  deaths in nonhostile incidents."
  Bottom line delle risorse in rete, la BBC ultimamente e' in lieve
  ritardo, ha il vantaggio
  di essere una lista LIFO e quindi mostra l'evento piu' recente in cima.
  CNN, ultimamente piu' aggiornata, ordina la lista dei caduti in ordine
  alfabetico,
  e' impossibile quindi reperire informazioni sul piu' recente evento - da
  notare che
  pero' la CNN da piu' dettagli circa l'accaduto - cosa interessante
  particolarmente
  nel caso delle "non hostile deaths".
  Anyway mentre quei fessi degli Imperiali fanno della caccia al vile
  tiranno Saddam etc.. 
  la parte centrale della loro campagna in quel di Babilonia (a proposito,
  l'Economist qualche 
  volta si riferisce al Iraq come Mesopotamia) ecco una notizia che forse
  vi e' sfuggita
  e che mostra bene sia cosa sta diventando l'Iraq sia come la politica
  imperiale 
  allontani i potenziali sudditi
 
http://www.arabtimesonline.com/arabtimes/world/Viewdet.asp?ID=808&cat=b
  [..]
  Unknown assailants fired rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs) at a shop
  selling alcohol in the southern 
  Iraqi city of Basra  late Sunday, wounding five people, Iraqi medical
  sources said.
  A vehicle stopped 15 metres (yards) from the shop and an assailant fired
  two or three 
  RPGs before fleeing in the car,  said British Colonel George Mendonca.
  The attackers 
  covered their escape with Kalashnikov fire. A doctor said five people
  were wounded in 
  the assault, one of them seriously. 
  Two or three blasts were heard when the RPGs were fired at around 9:45
  pm (1745 GMT).
  Since Saddam Hussein's Baath regime fell to the US-led coalition in
  April, Christian salesmen 
  of alcohol have been  harassed by Muslim fundamentalists in this port
  city.
  Amnesty International lambasted British forces in control of southern
  Iraq in a report earlier 
  this month calling for an end  to disorder in Basra. The rights watchdog
  noted a spike in violent 
  crime since Saddam fell.
  Meanwhile, one Iraqi was killed and three others wounded as US soldiers
  opened fire Sunday 
  on demonstrators in the  Shiite Muslim city of Karbala, residents said.
  The protest by about 300 people followed an incident late Saturday in
  which a tear-gas 
  canister fired by US forces struck  a holy site in this pilgrimage city,
  80 kilometers (50 miles)
   south of Baghdad.  Angry protestors threw stones at the American
  soldiers, who in response opened fire. 
  The dead man was named as Haidar Hanun.
  Residents said 15 people were detained, but that 12 of them were later
  released.
  On Saturday, according to witnesses, residents tried to block an
  American patrol from approaching 
  the  revered shrine of Imam Hussein. In response, troops had fired
  tear-gas, with one canister 
  striking the mausoleum.
  [..]
  a proposito per gogglare le notize si fa cosi':
 
http://news.google.com/news?q=rocket+attack+Iraq+alcohol+shop&hl=en&lr=&
  ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=nn
  vi e' una interessante divergenza di opinioni, gli Imperiali dicono che
  e' colpa della TV araba
  se i Babilonesi fanno il tiro al bersaglio sui legionari, infatti:
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3101387.stm
  Last Updated: Sunday, 27 July, 2003, 21:22 GMT 22:22 UK  
  US attacks 'biased' Arab news
 
  Many Iraqis get their news from al-Jazeera 
  Arabic-language news networks are inciting violence against US troops in
  Iraq, 
  according to US Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz 
  In an interview with Fox News on Sunday, Mr Wolfowitz said stations like
  al-Jazeera 
  and al-Arabiya incited hatred and violence by "slanting news incredibly"
  about events in Iraq. 
  Both stations have rejected allegations of bias, saying Mr Wolfowitz has
  misrepresented their output. 
  come si deve fare in questi casi si va a leggere una terza fonte:
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3102823.stm
  Last Updated: Monday, 28 July, 2003, 11:20 GMT 12:20 UK  
  US tactics fuel Iraqi anger 
  By Mike Donkin 
  BBC correspondent in Baghdad 
  As American forces in Baghdad press harder with raids to track down
  Saddam Hussein, 
  they are being warned that they risk making more enemies for the future.
  The death of five civilians here at the hands of an elite task force
  hunting members of 
  the former regime has prompted condemnation from many Iraqis at what
  they call heavy-handed 
  and uncaring tactics.
  [..]
  They [Task Force 20]  found nothing and made no arrests, but troops
  guarding the scene shot 
  and killed five people. 
  I went to the scene in the wealthy Mansour district after the task force
  had left, 
  saying nothing except that they were fired on first. 
  Local people told a different story. 
  [..]
  Another man told me he was no friend of Saddam Hussein's and he had not
  liked the former regime. 
  "But I cannot accept the way the Americans treat us," he said. 
  "When I see things like this I can understand why people want to drive
  them out of our country. 
  If this happens more and more then I will also join this resistance." 
  Confrontare con la tanto strombazzata caccia al vile tiranno che par
  spacciata come
  la mossa risolutoria, il Babilonese medio sara' suppongo contento che
  Saddam sia obliterato
  dopodiche andra' in cerca di un imperiale da far secco vuoi perche'
  hanno tirato
  un lacrimogeno su un luogo sacro (cfr. Arab Times) oppure perche' vuole
  vendicare
  la uccisione dei vicini (cfr. BBC). 
  E' interessante notare che l'Impero lentamente si sta rendendo conto che
  si e' cacciato
  in guai grossi, tanto e' vero che e' andato a chiedere di *NUOVO*
  (ovvero dopo l'originale
  rifiuto) truppe all'India!!!
 
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3101879.stm
  Last Updated: Monday, 28 July, 2003, 07:08 GMT 08:08 UK  
  US presses India over Iraq troops
 
  The United States' most senior military commander has arrived in Delhi
  for talks aimed 
  at persuading India to send troops to Iraq. 
  Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Richard Myers, will be
  meeting Indian 
  military and political leaders over the next two days. 
  Earlier this month India turned down a US request for troops to be sent
  to Iraq.
	Lungo P.S.
  e' noto perche' lo ho spesso ribadito che leggere la cosiddetta stampa italiana
  e' soprattutto inutile che tali pennivendoli non meritano neppure il nome di
  giornalisti - ho voluto oggi fare un check alle 16:00 di oggi per vedere se
  tale mio parere e' ancora fondato. Direi che lo e', infatti:
  i pennivendoli di una parraocchia (La Repubblica) presentano queste notizie 
 
http://www.repubblica.it/indici/esteri/esteri.htm
------- pennivendoli di repubblica, inzio
  Terrorismo, il Pentagono accetta scommesse online 
  Creato un sito per investire sui futuri attentati in Medio Oriente
  Secondo il governo Usa servirā a raccogliere informazioni 
  29-07-2003  
  Francia, tre morti per gli incendi  
  Divampano le fiamme sui monti alle spalle della Costa Azzurra 
  Ritrovati i corpi di due escursionisti e di una donna di 76 anni 
  29-07-2003 
  New York, apre una scuola  per ragazzi omosessuali  
  L'Istituto, interamente pubblico, vuole garantire agli studenti
  di andare al college e "imboccare la strada giusta" 
  28-07-2003  
  Caso Kelly, la Bbc accusa:  "Il governo ci minaccia" 
  Nuove rivelazioni sulle ultime ore dello scienziato suicida
  una cena con il ministro della Difesa Geff Hoon
  di PAOLO FILO DELLA TORRE 
  28-07-2003  
  Castro attacca l'Europa "Non vogliamo nessun aiuto"  
  Durissimo discorso in occasione del cinquantesimo  anniversario della
  rivoluzione: "Non abbiamo bisogno" 
  27-07-2003 
  Era un falso la caccia  alle donne nude a Las Vegas  
  Il sindaco ha denunciato per frode Burdick produttore di "Hunting for Bambi" 
  27-07-2003
------- pennivendoli di repubblica, fine
  I pennivendoli della altra parrocchia (Corsera) cosi' si guadagnano da ridere
 
http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/Esteri/
------- pennivendoli di corriere, inzio
   Anche l'Italia tra i Paesi a rischio, tra skinheads e neofascisti  
  Razzismo e jihad, quando l'odio corre sulla Rete  
   Il medico del lager di Auschwitz partė per il Sudamerica da Genova  
  L'Argentina apre gli archivi sulla fuga dei nazisti  
   Ma intanto si aggrava la situazione umanitaria  
  Liberia, ribelli a Monrovia ma nessuno scontro  
   Marie Trintignant operata a Vilnius  
  In coma figlia di Trintignant picchiata dal partner  
   Salgono a 11 i delitti nella capitale della Russia  
  Mosca, un'altra donna uccisa. Si teme serial killer  
   Si chiude una vicenda cominciata sabato sera  
  Manila, militari ribelli raggiungono un accordo  
   La visita segue di pochi giorni quella del palestinese Abu Mazen  
  Sharon a Washington a colloquio da Bush  
   Intanto due parenti chiedono le salme di Uday e Qusay  
  Iraq, cattura di Saddam mancata di un soffio  
   L'appello del Papa durante l'Angelus: ĢSi depongano le armiģ  
  Liberia: nuova strage di civili, 14 morti  
   Sono soldati accusati di aver ideato un golpe appena sventato  
  Manila, uomini armati rapiscono ambasciatore  
------- pennivendoli di corriere, fine
  Mio commento finale, e questa sarebbe la stampa italiana? che mi pare
  il corriere sia il primo e la repubblica seconda - la cosa piu' soprendente
  e' che la gente paghi per leggere simili scrovate che vengono spacciate 
  per "quotidiani italiani"
  tra l'altro non so se avete notato che una cosa accomuna la selezione delle
  notizie
  di questi pennivendoli delle due opposte parrocchie:
  il fatto che sono ossessionati dal sesso.
  Bye

...
Dopo il conto aggiornato delle perdite, che si puo' trovare cliccando
qui:
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&selm=6196c429.0307291226.44ecd51f%40posting.google.com&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26safe%3Doff%26q%3Dit.politica.internazionale%26meta%3D
ecco del materiale assortito sul tema legionari dell'Impero, tendo
sempre
a mente che l'Imperatore si era cosi' espresso.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2989459.stm
 
Last Updated: Friday, 2 May, 2003, 10:16 GMT 11:16 UK  
Bush declares victory in Iraq 
 
[questa e' la didascalia della foto] Cheers greeted Mr Bush's
announcement
of victory 
[qui comincia l'articolo US President George W Bush has said the US 
has prevailed in the Battle  of Iraq in a speech on the aircraft 
arrier USS Abraham Lincoln. 
 
ecco qua la vittoria
 
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
 
http://www.iraqbodycount.net/background.htm
 
Vorrei ricordare che gia' nella prima guerra del Golfo il Pentagono 
non ha rilasciato dati non  solo sui civili ma nemmeno sui militari 
iracheni uccisi - probabilmente migliaia.
E' abbastanza  ovvio che la mancanza del paterno "bread winner" nella 
famiglia crea sia miseria ma anche  indebolisce la societa' locale -
orfani
e vedovi non supportati adeguatamente scivolano  nella poverta' quando
non
decidano di passare al crimine per procurarsi da che vivere. 
La serie di saccheggi dopo la "vittoria" imperiale mostra bene questo
aspetto.
Poi gli Imperiali frignano che non possono ridare la corrente
elettrica
ai Babilonesi perche' qualcuno si frega le torri dall'alta tensione
per rivenderle..
Ecco qui un interessante articolo su alcuni legionari che
portano la liberta' e la democrazie ed altre baggianate
propagandistiche..
http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/5402104
 
'I just pulled the trigger'
By Bob Graham, Evening Standard, in Baghdad
19 June 2003
[..]
What they told me, in a series of extraordinary interviews, will 
make uncomfortable reading for US and British
politicians and senior military staff desperate to prevent the
liberation
of Iraq turning into a quagmire of Vietnam proportions, where the
behaviour
of troops feeds the hatred of an occupied people. 
Specialist Anthony Castillo: "If civilians were there, they were
considered
the enemy"
Sergeant First Class John Meadows revealed the mindset that has led to
hundreds of innocent Iraqi civilians being killed alongside fighters 
deliberately dressed in civilian clothes. "You can't distinguish
between who's
trying to kill you and who's not," he said. "Like, the only way to get
through s*** like that was to concentrate on getting through it by
killing
as many people as you can, people you know are trying to kill you. 
Killing them first and getting home."
  [..] 
These GIs, from Bravo Company of the 3/15th US Infantry Division, are
caught
in an impossible situation. More than 40 of their number have been
killed by
hostile forces since 1 May - when President Bush declared major
military
operations were over - and the number of hit-and-run attacks is on the
increase.
They face a resentful civilian population and, hiding among it, a
number of
guerrilla fighters still loyal to the old regime. A
lone Iraqi sniper nicknamed The Hunter is believed to have claimed his
sixth
American victim this week in a suburb of Baghdad. 
The man, said to be a former member of the Republican Guard Special
Forces,
has developed a cult status among some Iraqis.
[..]
Their attitude to these dangers is summed up by Specialist (Corporal)
Michael
Richardson, 22. "There was no dilemma when it came to shooting people
who
were not in uniform, I just pulled the trigger. It was up close and
personal
the whole time, there wasn't a big distance. If they were there, they
were
enemy, whether in uniform or not. Some were, some weren't." 
[..]
"We had dropped fliers a couple of days prior saying to people to get
out of
the area if they didn't want to fight, so basically anyone who was
there was
a combatant. If they were dumb enough to stand in front of tanks or
drive a car
towards a tank, then they were there to fight. On that day it took
away the
 dilemma of who to fire at, anyone who was there was a combatant." 
[..]
Cpl Richardson added: "That day nothing went with the training. There
were
females fighting; there were some that, when they saw you f******
coming,
they'd just drop their s*** and try to give up; and some guys were
shot and they'd play dead, and when you'd go by they'd reach for their
weapons.
That day it was just f****** everything. When we face women or injured
that
try to grab their weapons, we just finish them off. You've gotta, no
choice."
[..] 
The GIs spoke of shooting civilians at roadblocks. Sgt Meadows said: 
"When they used white flags we were told to stop them at 400 metres
out
and then strip them down naked then bring them through. Most obeyed
the order.
We knew about others who had problems with [Iraqis] carrying white
flags and
then opening up on our guys. We knew about every trick they were
trying to do.
 Then they'd use cars to try and drive at us. They were men, women and
children. That day we shot up a lot of cars.
"We'd shoot warning shots at them and they'd keep coming, so we'd kill
them.
We'd fire a warning shot over the top of them or on the road. When
people
criticise us killing civilians they don't know that a lot of these
civilians were
combatants, they really were . And they still are." 
[..] 
Sgt Meadows said men under his command had been seeking help for
severe
 depression: "They've already seen psychiatrists and the chain of
command has
got letters back saying 'these men need to be taken out of this
situation'. But
nothing's happened." Cpl Richardson added: "Some soldiers don't even
f******
sleep at night. They sit up all f****** night long doing s*** to keep
themselves
 busy - to keep their minds off this f****** stuff. It's the only way
they can
handle it. It's not so far from being crazy but it's their way of
coping. There's
one guy trying to build a little pool out the back, pointless stuff
but it
keeps him busy." 
Sgt Meadows said: "For me, it's like snap-shot photos. Like pictures
of
maggots on tongues, babies with their heads on the ground, men with
their heads
 halfway off and their eyes wide open and mouths wide open. I see it
every day,
every single day. The smells and the torsos burning, the entire route
up to
 Baghdad, from 20 March to 7 April, nothing but burned bodies." 
  [..] 
"There's a picture of the World Trade Center hanging up by my bed and
I keep
one in my Kevlar [flak jacket]. Every time I feel sorry for these
people I look
 at that. I think, 'They hit us at home and, now, it's our turn.' I
don't want to
say payback but, you know, it's pretty much payback." 
Interessante no? Certamente i babilonesi vedono la differenza adesso
che a spargli addosso non sono piu' i vili sgherri del tiranno ma
i baldi liberatori imperiali.
  Dal Talking Point BBC
 
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/3068681.stm
  [..]
  I just watched an interview with an unnamed soldier of the 3rd
Division. When the reporter asked what he would say to
  Donald Rumsfeld, if he were there, he replied, "I would ask him for
his resignation". Another soldier said that he "doesn't
  believe anything the army tells him now." This is disturbing. These
soldiers and their buddies clearly believe that the chain
  of command has broken faith with them. This would indicate that
their officers also are angry. I am an American soldier
  myself, and this really worries me, more than reports of violence
against our forces.
  Michael G, US
  [..] 
 
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/07/24/sprj.irq.wolfowitz/index.html
  WASHINGTON (CNN) – Back from a four-day whirlwind tour of Iraq, the
Pentagon's number two civilian, Paul
  Wolfowitz, has admitted that many of the Bush administration's
pre-war assumptions were wrong.
  While he insists that many things are now going right and the
rebuilding of Iraq is progressing much better than many
  people think, he also concedes many beliefs the Pentagon had ahead
of the war were mistaken.
  [..] 
  Among the things Wolfowitz says the U.S. guessed incorrectly was the
assumption that some Iraqi Army units would
  switch sides; that the Iraqi Police would help maintain security;
and that regime remnants would not resort to guerrilla
  tactics
  vi e' un interessante claim: 
  "I believe this will go down as the first guerrilla tactic in
history in which contract killings, killings for hire, going out and
  soliciting young men for $500 to take a shot at an American, was the
principal tactic employed," he said.
  L'impero - cosi' baldanzosamente andato alla conquista della nuova
provincia con il supporto del
  fedele zerbino Tony "poodle" Blair, immaginando di essere accolto da
folle di babilonesi festanti -
  cerca volontari per alleviare il carico della occupazione, alleati
di alta qualita' militare e logistica..
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1006183,00.html
 
  Poles lead peace effort while US piles pressure on allies
  Owen Bowcott
  Saturday July 26, 2003 
  An advance guard of Polish troops has arrived in Iraq to form the
nucleus of the 9,000-strong
  international division which will shortly assume peacekeeping duties
in the centre of the country.
  The postwar reinforcements bring together an extraordinary alignment
of countries, mainly close
  allies of the US, from eastern Europe, central America and Asia.
Even Mongolia and Fiji are
  participating. 
  [..] 
  As many as 70 countries are understood to have been approached by
Washington in its trawl for military support. Several
  critical of the war snubbed the appeal in public. 
  Germany and France turned down the request to take part and Russia's
defence minister, Sergei Ivanov, said Moscow had
  no intention of sending troops. 
  At least 24 countries have agreed to contribute. Most will join the
Polish-led division, operating in a newly defined security
  zone covering southern and central Iraq. The area will stretch from
the Saudi border in the west to the Iranian border in the
  east and include the Shia holy city of Kerbala, and Nassiriya. 
  Spain and Ukraine will both command brigades in the Polish sector. 
  Some participants, such as Honduras and El Salvador, are sending no
more than several dozen soldiers.
  [..] 
  Un manipolo?! L'armata dei willing misura i rinforzi in manipoli 
  se l'alleato manda una divisione ci sono anche delle strings
attached per gli imperiali
  [..] 
  Ukraine's troops, from the 5th Mechanised Division, will be based at
a former Iraqi army base near Kut.
  Ukraine has agreed to pay its troops' salaries and insurance;
Washington will underwrite other expenses.
  [..] 
  comunque sono davvero alleati con una volonta' di ferro, tipo i
zerbini in metallo per levare il fango
  dagli scarponi: 
  At a ceremony for departing troops, Poland's prime minister, Leszek
Miller, said: "The Polish army [is] beginning its most
  important operation since world war two." 
  . 
  [..] 
  "You simply don't say no to the Americans," said Bronislaw
Komorowski, a former Polish defence minister.
Bye

 
questo un po' in ritardo, lo ho catpastato dal Finacial
di alcuni giorni fa, interessante.
US warned it faces 'third Gulf war' in Iraq
By Charles Clover in Baghdad
Published: July 27 2003 20:28 | Last Updated: July 27 2003 20:28
Five US soldiers were killed over the weekend in a spate of attacks by
Iraqi militants, as a new study warned that the US may soon find
itself in the midst of "a third Gulf war against the Iraqi people".
On Saturday, three soldiers were killed in a grenade attack while
guarding a children's hospital in the city of Baquba and a fourth was
killed in an attack on a convoy west of Baghdad. On Sunday, the fifth
was killed by a grenade attack south of Baghdad near the city of
Hilla.
Forty-nine coalition troops have been killed by militants in Iraq
since the beginning of May, and attacks average 10 to 20 a day
throughout the country. General John Abizaid, the new commander of
Centcom, on July 16 became the first senior US official to acknowledge
that what the coalition faces in Iraq is a "classical guerrilla
campaign".
A study on guerrilla warfare in Iraq by the Center for Strategic and
International Studies (CSIS), a Washington think-tank, blames bad
planning by the US administration and the low priority given to
"conflict termination" and nation-building strategies by the Pentagon.
CSIS military specialist Anthony Cordesman says the US has not learned
the lessons of past conflicts, that "even the best military victories
cannot win the peace".
He writes: "Unless this situation changes soon, and radically, the
United States may end up fighting a third Gulf war against the Iraqi
people . . . It is far from clear that the United States can win this
kind of asymmetric war."
The study is likely to be a further blow to the US administration,
already facing mounting criticism for chaotic reconstruction efforts
in the country.
Mr Cordesman offers a grim assessment of the future of the Iraqi
conflict: "The most likely case still seems to be a mixed and poorly
co-ordinated US nation-building effort that does just enough to put
Iraq on a better political and economic path, but does so in a climate
of constant low-level security threats and serious Iraqi ethnic and
sectarian tensions."
The Pentagon's policymakers saw the Clinton administration's focus on
nation-building as a waste of resources, the report says.
US policymakers say the Iraq war ended too suddenly for an effective
postwar strategy to be launched. Mr Cordesman credits the coalition
with avoiding many of the worst-case postwar scenarios, such as
massive refugee crisis and wholesale destruction of energy
infrastructure.
But Mr Cordesman offers a detailed critique of the planning and
analysis that went into the war - 26 "avoidable problems" ranging from
failure to introduce a police force to assuming that toppling Saddam
Hussein would have won "hearts and minds". In confused and angry
scenes in the Shia holy city of Kerbala on Sunday US troops opened
fire as Iraqis protested over marines killing a man the day before,
Reuters reports from Kerbala.
An officer said his men returned fire in self-defence but did not know
if anyone was hit. He said the man shot dead on Saturday was carrying
a weapon.
Doctors showed Reuters the body of a second man they said was shot
dead on Sunday.

Mio commento finale, e questa sarebbe la stampa italiana?
Se te le scegli da solo le notizie e ti fai il tuo riassuntino
personale, quella e' la personale visione del Pirlissima(TM) della
stampa italiana :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

[cut]
Mi inserisco nel thread iniziato da Serenissima per puntualizzare un
risvolto importante, sul piano numerico, della recente aggressione USA
contro l'Iraq. Commentando, infatti (sul "Sole" di oggi), le contraddittorie
notizie provenienti dall'economia americana (ad es. un tasso di
disoccupazione che
apparentemente scende in luglio dal 6,4% al 6,2%, ma che "secondo il
Dipartimento del Lavoro si spiega con l'uscita dalla forza lavoro di
migliaia di americani, probabilmente stanchi di cercare opportunità ancora
latitanti. Nelle statistiche americane, infatti, soltanto chi cerca
attivamente un impiego è ufficialmente classificato come disoccupato", M.
Valsania, "L'industria USA risale ma non crea lavoro", ibid.), F. Galimberti
("Tagliare tassi e tasse, una cura insufficiente") scrive: "Senza
l'impennata delle spese militari in Irak il Pil [USA] sarebbe cresciuto
dell'1% e non del 2,4%". Mi sembrano numeri da valutare accuratamente, alla
faccia degli sciocchi che hanno avuto la mancanza di buon senso di affermare
che l'aumento delle spese militari (che figura in quel 2,4% meno del suo
peso reale, in quanto "lo stimolo delle spese della difesa è stato in parte
compensato dalla caduta delle spese dei governi statali e locali, che hanno
una stazza più che doppia rispetto alle spese per la difesa", ibid.) abbia
inciso in misura irrilevante sul Pil USA, mentre ne ha più che raddoppiato
la crescita. Ma l'economia imperiale resta contraddittoria e asfittica: se
la "distruzione" dell'Opec (via protettorato iracheno) non andasse a "buon"
fine, la prossima boccata d'ossigeno la fornirà l'Iran o la Corea del Nord?
E quanti (sedicenti) "occidentali" continueranno a scambiare questa tattica
per "esportazione della libertà"? Mala tempora currunt. Shalom.
Namib
--
"I don't *believe* in surrenders. No, I still got *my* saber, Reverend.
Didn't turn it into no ploughshare neither".
Ethan Edwards (da "The Searchers", di John Ford)

 


 almost all those in the Middle East - from bidding.
Telecom Italia ha ancora la Golden Share?
Omnitel -Vodafone?
Tiscali?
Mirco

sarebbe cresciuto dell'1% e non del 2,4%".
E se lo dice lui... :)))
*LOL*
-Stefano

network in Baghdad.
MAY WELL BE OUT... Non dice che lo sono :)
*LOL*
Ma il Pirlissima(TM) e' ben noto per la sua conoscenza della lingua
inglese :)
-Stefano

 ha scritto nel messaggio
news:3F2C166F...@interfree.it...

E se lo neghi tu... :)))) Dunque, ecco le referenze di F. Galimberti:
Economista ed editorialista del "Sole 24 Ore", lasciò la carriera accademica
nel 1970 dopo la libera docenza in Scienza delle Finanze. Ha lavorato per
dieci anni al dipartimento di Economia dell'Ocse, a Parigi, e nel 1980 è
stato chiamato a Roma come consigliere economico dal ministro del Tesoro
Nino Andreatta. Dal 1983 al 1985 è stato Chief economist della Fiat e dal
1986 ha una società di consulenza.
Mi pare abbia i titoli per dare un ponderato giudizio, no? E tu, mammalucco?
Prego, declinami i tuoi titoli accademici, anonimo psicotico di Usenet...
Namib

Mi pare abbia i titoli per dare un ponderato giudizio, no?
Il che dice poco sul fatto che i suoi giudizi in questo caso siano o
meno corretti :))
*LOL*
-Stefano

 *LOL*
Figriamoci quelli di un analfabeta come te. Oppure, emerito mammalucco, ci
vuoi proporre le tue competenze accademiche in oeconomicis, quelle
competenze che ti permetterebbero di fare dell'ironia sul parere di un
esperto? Prego.
Namib

ci vuoi proporre le tue competenze accademiche in oeconomicis,
                                                   ===========
-Stefano

  ==========
Addirittura? Siamo alla "critica" del salto di battuta? E la fa un tizio che
scrive regolarmente "qual'č" e "un'altro". Ma pazienza. Il bue sottoscritto,
anyway, ancora non vede il tuo curriculum, a testimonianza delle competenze
scentifiche che ti consentirebbero di fare dell'ironia sulle tesi di
Galimberti. Prego.
Namib, the Ox

 scentifiche
Altro salto di battuta (per "scientifiche"): nun ce provà. Attendo il
curriculum. Shalom.
Namib

 > 
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&frame=right&th=f4639d82b8cb2101&seekm=6196c429.0306141029.22d4a096%40posting.google.com#link1
 
prima aggiorno i dati correnti 
Ecco i conti finali per il mese di Luglio - e' interessante notare che
le due principali risorse in rete riportano solo i legionari morti, 
circa i legionari feriti non avevo trovato nessuna  risorsa fino ad
oggi.
La posto dopo la parte che attualizza il conteggio dei morti. 
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
 
  Last Updated: Thursday, 31 July, 2003, 10:00 GMT 11:00 UK  
  Timeline: US losses in Iraq 
 
  US Central Command has reported the deaths of 92 American service
personnel
in Iraq since 1 May   when President Bush declared that major combat
was over.
Of the dead, at least 51 were killed in combat, typically in ambushes 
involving rocket-propelled  grenades (RPG) and sniper attacks. 
  In the same period, UK forces lost six servicemen - all members of 
the Military Police who were attacked  in a village about 160
kilometres
(100 miles) north of Basra. 
 
http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/
 
  There have been 293 confirmed coalition deaths in the war as of July
31, 2003. The casualty list below  reflects the names of the U.S. and
British troops whose
families have been notified. This list is updated daily 
   [..] 
numeri trascritti dal CNN "interactive" una finestra spesso linkata 
nella ultima  storia reperibile che parli di un attacco alle legioni
imperiali in quel di babilonia 
(spero che sia allienato nel cut & paste)
  MARCH Total 65 - Hostile deaths: 57 Non Hostile deaths: 08 
  Note: from March 20 
  APRIL Total 73 - Hostile deaths: 58 Non Hostile deaths: 15 
  MAY-- Total 37 - Hostile deaths: 07 Non Hostile deaths: 30 
  Note: 1 Maggio nota dichiarazione dell'Imperatore sul ponte della
portaerei
  JUNE- Total 28 - Hostile deaths: 17 Non Hostile deaths: 11 
  JULY- Total 46 - Hostile deaths: 27 Non Hostile deaths: 19 
  Commento dalla risorsa citata sotto: [..] Military observers say it 
is unusual, even in a "low-intensity" guerrilla  war such as the
situation
seen in Iraq, for non-combat deaths to outnumber combat casualties
[..]
  Ho provato a vedere se c'e' un benchmark per morti/feriti, 
ho trovato  da 
http://www.g2mil.com/Aug2003.htm
 
Vietnam the U.S. suffered 1,241 killed in action and 5,687 wounded 
che darebbe un rapporto di ca. 18  feriti ogni 4  morti, se si
confronta
il 293 con la cifra di feriti che riporta il Guardian (827) si
avrebbero
11 feriti ogni 4 morti che parrebbe abbastanza in linea (pero'
consiglio
fortemente  di rifare i conti che potrei aver sbagliato) 
parliamo di legionari feriti - effettivamente mi sembrava strano che
con tutte
le   pallottole che volano il conto si limitasse ai soli morti, ho
trovato
questo,  la cosa piu' grave, che segnala secondo me che gli US stanno 
scivolando  verso un vero regime, e' che si puo' leggere che 
  [..] 
 
according to Lieutenant-Colonel Allen DeLane,[..]. 
"Since the war has started, I can't give you an exact number because 
that's classified information, but I can say to you [..]," 
  Col DeLane told National Public Radio. 
  [..] 
il numero esatto dei legionari feriti e' una informazione
*classificata* ?!?
fino alla reincoronazione  i Bush come Imperatore, suppongo, e forse
anche
dopo - 'azzo un vero beacon di democrazia  e trasparenza sono gli US 
anyway ecco la url 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1011691,00.html
 
The unreported cost of war: at least 827 American wounded
Julian Borger, Washington
Monday August 4, 2003
The Guardian
US military casualties from the occupation of Iraq have been more than
twice
the number most Americans have been led to believe because of an
extraordinarily
high number of accidents, suicides and other non-combat deaths in the
ranks
that have gone largely unreported in the media. 
Since May 1, when President George Bush declared the end of major
combat
operations, 52 American soldiers have been killed by hostile fire,
according
to Pentagon figures quoted in almost all the war coverage.
But the total number of US deaths from all causes is much higher: 112.
The other unreported cost of the war for the US is the number of
American
 wounded, 827 since Operation Iraqi Freedom began. 
Unofficial figures are in the thousands. About half have been injured
since
the president's triumphant appearance on board the aircraft carrier
USS
Lincoln at the beginning of May. Many of the wounded have lost limbs. 
[nota, osservazione assai credibile visto il numero di attacchi
a base di mine o RPG su mezzi ruotati]
The figures are politically sensitive. The number of American combat
deaths
since the start of the war is 166 - 19 more than the death toll in the
first
Gulf war. 
[..]
In fact, the total death toll this time is 248 - including accidents
and
suicides - and as the number of non-combat deaths and serious injuries
becomes more widely known, the erosion of public confidence is likely
[..]
Military observers say it is unusual, even in a "low-intensity"
guerrilla
war such as the situation seen in Iraq, for non-combat deaths to
outnumber
combat casualties. 
The Pentagon does not tabulate the cause of those deaths, but
according to
an American website that has  been tracking official reports, Iraq
Coalition
Casualty Count, 23 American soldiers have died in car or
helicopter accidents since May 1, while 12 have been killed in
accidents
with weapons or explosives. 
Three deaths have been categorised as "possible suicides", three have
died
from illness, and three from drowning. The rest are unexplained. 
Wounded American soldiers continue to be flown back to the US at a 
relentless rate, in twice-weekly transport flights to Andrews air
force
base near Washington. 
Hospital staff are working 70- or 80-hour weeks, and the Walter Reed 
army hospital in Washington is so full that it has taken over beds
normally
 reserved for cancer patients to handle the influx, according to a
report
  on CBS television. 
Meanwhile, at the nearby national naval medical centre in Bethesda, 
new marine injuries are delivered almost
daily by a medical plane known as the Nightingale. 
The Pentagon figure for "wounded in action" in Iraq is 827, but here
again
the total number of injuries  appears to be much higher. 
 The estimate given by central command in Qatar is 926, but according 
to Lieutenant-Colonel Allen DeLane, who is in charge of the airlift of
the wounded into Andrews air base, that too is understated. 
"Since the war has started, I can't give you an exact number because
that's
 classified information, but I can say to you over 4,000 have stayed
here at
 Andrews, and that number doubles when you count the people
that come here to Andrews and then we send them to other places like
Walter
Reed and Bethesda, which are
 in this area also," Col DeLane told National Public Radio. 
 He said 90% of injuries were directly war-related. 
Some of that number may involve double-counting - if a soldier stays
at the Andrews clinic on the way to Washington and then again on the
way back to the
war or back home, for example. But the actual number
of wounded still appears to be much higher than the official figures. 
 "When the facility where I'm at started absorbing the people coming
back
from theatre [in April], those numbers went up significantly - I'd say
over 1,200," Col DeLane said. 
"That number even went up higher in the month of May, to about 1,500, 
and continues to increase." 
[per inciso volgio monitorare se questo verra' rimosso per aver
parlato
troppo che pare che la attuale amministrazione imperiale non e' tenera
con quelli che non seguono la sua linea]
  Bye 
  P.S. se siete interessati a questi aspetti leggete 
http://www.g2mil.com/Aug2003.htm
 e' interessante.. 
Rather than instantly re-forming Iraqi units, the US Army announced
that it
will pay the Vinnell Corporation, an insider group
which employs retired Army Generals, $48 million to "train" 12,000
Iraqi
soldiers. They claim this will take a year, and Vinnell hopes to make
"training
the Iraqi Army" a permanent gravy train like they have in Saudi
Arabia, and
had in Vietnam.

Addirittura? Siamo alla "critica" del salto di battuta?
No, siamo alla critica di chi da dell'analfabeta agli altri :)))
*LOL*
-Stefano

 fine, la prossima boccata d'ossigeno la fornirà l'Iran o la Corea del Nord?
 [..]
credo di aver letto l'articolo dell'FT speculare a questo, "rising
earnings, improved margins, higher dividends: is corporate America
signalling that better times lie ahead?" FT August 1 page 11.
Direi che la faccenda e' complessa, indubbiamente il PIL cresce, 
ma il fatto e' il come, ad esempio "working in Iraq benefits
Halliburton"
FT sempre del 1 August page 20:
"halliburton [..] yesterday said work in Iraq boosted revenue 
as it swung from a loss to a record second quarter net income of $26
m,
or 6 cents a share, compared with the year earlier period.
[..]The Houston based company credited the [..] rise in revenue,
to the $3.6 bn largely to increased activity in its Engineering and 
Construction Group (ECG) projects, including givernments serices work
in the Middle East."
Se ad aumentare il PIL concorrono eventi come quelli 
che la ["ex-"]ditta del vicepresidente si becca l'appalto pagato con i
soldi
sequestrati ai babilonesi per la "ricostruzione" si vede che da un
lato si da il messaggio sbagliato all'imprenditoria - non gia' quello
di
essere  efficenti e di competere in un libero mercato ma quello di
contribuire alla campagna del politico (o prenderlo nel board of
directors
o come consultant etc..) che poi l'appalto per gli amici degli amici
arriva sempre. Se questo sistema di "cronyism" (che sul dizionario
trovo solo "crony" eppure sono certo di averlo letto da qualche parte
come accusa alla amministrazione Bush) fosse efficente la Cassa del
Mezzogiorno e non il Citigroup guiderebbe le classifiche, la Chimica
Italiana rivaleggerebbe con quella Tedesca ed in generale le politiche
pentapartitiche avrebbero portato l'Italia a raggiungere il terzo
posto
nella classifica del G7. E' noto invece come sia finita.
Particolarizzando a quel di babilonia in modo abbastanza grezzo
si potrebbe dire che:
le bombe che sono cascate sulle infrastrutture Irachene sono un "+"
del PIL che qualche ditta imperiale le deve pur fabbricare.
idem la ricostruzione delle infrastrutture cosi' bombardate, altro
"+".
Ma questi due "+" sono in realta' dei bei "-" per il contribuente
americano che deve sovvenzionare queste politiche imperiali di 
dissipazione. Nota che mentre il contribuente paga i due "-" ne
aleggia
pure un terzo "-", visto che di produzione petrolifera in Iraq
non se ne parla nemmeno i prezzi al dettaglio NON precipitano
al solo apparire della bandiera imperiale su quel di Bagdhad, anzi.
l'equivalente imperiale del noto complesso militar-industriale
che ha affondato l'Unione Sovietica e' una realta' assai vitale
ed attiva nel sifonare i fondi del contribuente in attivita'
assolutamente improduttive.
http://www.g2mil.com/Aug2002.htm
 
L'editoriale su "the submarine mafia" 
si chiude cosi': 
  This will end all government contracts for General Dynamics'
Electric
Boat division in Groton, Connecticut. Unless these yards
can build ships the world needs, like cruise ships or cargo ships, 
that communist enclave will collapse just like the Soviet Union.
Local politicians will plead that thousands of shipyard workers cannot
find high paying private sector work because they have
no real skills. However, if they want to fund a communist jobs program
in Groton, they should follow Fred Reed's advice and pay
them to build pyramids. The materials cost much less and they will 
produce something Americans can visit. Meanwhile, civilian leaders
need
to address the rampant corruption in the US military and start by
dismantling
the submarine mafia.
credo comunque che il "liberale postmoderno" sia una categoria in
espansione
identificabile da una ironia anch'essa postmoderna, questo passaggio, 
mi ha fatto ridere molto, non so a te  - nel mio caso deve essere 
la postmodernita'. 
Tra i padri del postmodernismo ricorderei poi cosa diceva Adam Smith 
"A man grows rich by employing a multititude of manufacturers: 
He grows poor by employing a multitude of menial servants. Adam Smith"
 
http://www.g2mil.com/Aug2003.htm
 
  Sending Soldiers to Butler School - a key priority 
 
http://slate.msn.com/id/2085143/
 
  Jeeves Goes to War
  Why is the Pentagon sending soldiers to butler school?
  By Tom Anderson
  Posted Wednesday, July 2, 2003, at 2:53 PM PT 
hai capito? si mandano pure gli attendenti a scuola di buone maniere.
Giusto per finire, giusto per parlare dei "+" dei bilanci anche
per, chesso' la Polonia (od altro paese citato qui sotto) l'intervento
in babilonia sara' un fatto positivo, un po' meno positivo lo sara'
per il contribuente americano che lo paga con le tasse ed e' pure
spesso privo
di una qualsiasi copertura sanitaria....
catpasto tutto che non so la politica dell'Asian Times, ovvero 
se lo tiene in archivo e per quanto 
 
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EH01Ak02.html
 
  Middle East  
  US bartering arms for soldiers for Iraq 
  By Thalif Deen 
  UNITED NATIONS - Faced with a rising death toll among its soldiers
in Iraq, the United States is trying to
  "buy" foreign troops for a proposed 30,000-strong multinational
force in Baghdad.
  "When they were seeking UN support for a war on Iraq, they were
twisting arms," one Asian diplomat said.
  "Now they are offering carrots in exchange for our troops." 
  The inducements - including weapons and increased military aid -
have apparently been offered to at least
  three countries whose troops Washington desperately needs to bolster
the fledgling multinational force in
  Iraq and relieve the pressure on US forces in the war-ravaged
country.
  The administration of President George W Bush has intensified
efforts to seek troops from India, Pakistan
  and Turkey in order to bolster a multinational force that now
includes troops mostly from former Soviet
  republics and Latin American nations. 
  The Indian government, which withdrew its offer of 17,000 troops
under heavy domestic political pressure, is
  being lobbied once again with an offer of sophisticated military
equipment. The quid pro quo, according to
  diplomatic sources, is approval of the proposed sale of the
state-of-the-art Arrow-2 missile defense system
  by Israel. Since the US$100 million system includes US components
and funding, Israel needs US approval
  to close the deal. 
  General Richard Myers, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, is
now in New Delhi to try to persuade the
  government of Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee to change its
stance on troops for Iraq. The London
  Financial Times said on Tuesday that the Bush administration has
also pledged to relax the sale of dual-use
  technology to India in return for that country sending troops to
Iraq.
  France, Germany, India, Pakistan and several other nations have
declined to provide troops unless there is a
  new United Nations resolution authorizing the proposed multinational
peacekeeping force in Iraq.
  But India could change its position, said Professor Stephen Cohen,
director of the South Asia program at the
  Brookings Institution. "For all we know, they are still talking
about terms under which India might come," he
  said in an interview. "That's part of the bargaining game that's
going on."
  Since the war on Iraq began on March 19, at least 247 US soldiers
have died. The rising death toll looms as
  a political liability for Bush, who faces re-election next year. 
  The 150,000 US troops in Iraq are backed by 12,000 from Britain.
Among the key countries that have pledged
  troops for the new multinational force are Spain, Poland, Japan and
Ukraine.
  Washington is also expecting smaller units from Hungary, Romania,
Latvia, Estonia, Slovakia, Honduras, El
  Salvador, the Dominican Republic, Mongolia, the Philippines and
Nicaragua. It has logistical support from
  Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal and South Korea. 
  The Washington Post reported that some of the countries were
providing troops only at a cost to US
  taxpayers. 
  The Bush administration has agreed to pay $240 million in support
costs to the Polish contingent of about
  9,000 troops. The costs will cover airlift transportation, meals,
medical care and other expenses.
  The proposed Indian contingent of 17,000 troops would have been the
largest single foreign force,
  exceeding the 12,000 troops from Britain, Washington's main
coalition partner in the war against Iraq. But the
  move to provide Indian troops generated strong political and public
opposition in New Delhi, threatening a
  government that faces elections next year. 
  India's neighbor and foe Pakistan has been offered $3 billion in US
aid over the next five years, of which $1.5
  billion will be in military aid. 
  And according to the Ankara-based Hurriyet newspaper, the United
States has been lobbying the Turkish
  government for about 10,000 troops for Iraq. 
  Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz told the Senate Foreign
Relations Committee on Tuesday that the
  administration was discussing troop deployments both by Pakistan and
Turkey.
  "The Bush administration is doing the right thing in looking for
additional help in Iraq," said Natalie J
  Goldring, executive director of the Program on Global Security and
Disarmament at the University of
  Maryland. "But the US government should be seeking that help through
the United Nations. Instead, US
  political and military leaders are once again trying to buy
countries' cooperation with weapons transfers and
  military aid," she said. 
  Goldring added that there is no evidence that providing India with a
missile defense system will decrease
  the level of conflict in the unstable South Asian region. "Quite the
contrary. Past attempts by India or Pakistan
  to gain military advantage have inevitably been matched or countered
by the other country, continuing and
  often accelerating the already dangerous arms race in that part of
the world," she said.
  At a press conference on Wednesday, UN Secretary General Kofi Annan
said he believes that the
  international community is seeking to "internationalize" the Iraqi
operations under a UN umbrella. "It is
  important for them - not just for Europe or India, but also for the
region. The Arab states will feel more
  comfortable" providing troops under UN auspices, he said. 
  The United States has refused to seek approval for a UN peacekeeping
force because it might have to
  concede some of its military authority to the United Nations. 
  Wolfowitz told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that
Washington would agree to a UN resolution only
  if it did not curtail US military authority. 
  (Inter Press Service)

 *LOL*
"Da" senza accento? E non vedo il tuo curriculum, analfabeta. Attendo
pazientemente. Shalom.
Namib

 KPN (Netherlands)  NTT DoCoMo (Japan)  etc.. etc..  
 
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soldi sequestrati ai babilonesi
Azzo!! Gli USA pagano la Halliburton con le belle banconote con la
faccia di Saddam? :))
*ROTFL*
Pirlissima(TM), continua con notizie come queste e continuerai a
mantenere il tuo titolo a vita :)))
*LOL*
-Stefano

 ha scritto nel messaggio
news:6196c429.0308...@posting.google.com...
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Resta il fatto che attualmente il numero di morti giornalieri per
azioni ostili è di meno di uno al giorno.
Contando questi numeri siamo 111 morti (tra incidenti ed attacchi) in
90 giorni.
Su un totale di 150.000 uomini? (non ho dati sottomano adesso)
Subito dopo i grossi combattimenti, prima che le infrastrutture
inizino a funzionare decentemente e principalmente concentrati nella
zona sunnita.
Probabilmente, inoltre, molti attacchi sono portati da gente di o
vicina ad Al-Qaida, quindi drenando risorse ad Al-Qaida da altri
teatri di operazione (magari l'effetto non era cercato, ma
probabilmente non dispiace poi troppo).
Per ora le perdite sono sopportabili, sia militarmente che
politicamente.
E potrebbero ridursi ulteriormente, se gli USA riescono a fare
progressi con l'economia del paese e le nuove forze armate e di
polizia irachene.
Resta il fatto, che chi resiste agli USA non ha la possibilità di
recuperare risorse fresche (a parte quelli di Al-Qaida, ma le loro da
sole sono ridicole in confronto a quelle disponibili a Saddam & C.
prima della guerra e anche adesso - miliardi di $$$).
I soldi, se non si continua a farli prima o poi finiscono.
Le armi, senza soldi, prima o poi finiscono e nessuno sembra
intenzionato a sponsorizzare pesantemente i guerriglieri/terroristi
che operano in Iraq.
Il fatto di voler riaddestrare l'esercito iracheno da zero, significa
che vogliono avere a che fare con gente addestrata da loro, di cui
possono fidarsi (perché li hanno addestrati).
Significa anche che i vecchi militari di Saddam devono riguadagnarsi
il loro grado e la loro posizione, se viene permesso loro di unirsi al
nuovo (ridotto) esercito.
Questo evita che si riformi la vecchia mafia Baahtista che esisteva
prima, senza troppi legami familiari a fornire dubbie lealtà.
Inoltre, se i vari militari si addestrano secondo i canoni
occidentali, finiranno per conoscersi e fidarsi (doversi fidare) l'uno
dell'altro. Questo riduce la possibilità che qualcuno tradisca in
favore di qualche organizzazione esterna, gruppo politico, etc.
E' una cosa che si costruisce con il tempo, ma che una volta costruita
è difficilissima da abbattere.
Inoltre, il nuovo esercito potrebbe essere la forgia per plasmare
secondo regole occidentali la società irachena.
Se i soldati imparano che DEVONO dare rispetto ai superiori, ma anche
che i superiori DEVONO rispettare i loro sottoposti, possono portare
questa buona abitudine nella società (uno non disimpara immediatamente
le buone cose, ne quelle cattive).
Non sarà una cosa facile, non sarà breve, non sarà senza passi
indietro o pericoli.
Ma non credo che sia impossibile, ne che molleranno tanto facilmente.
Sul lungo periodo l'opinione pubblica non cambia facilmente idea e ha
lunga memoria.
Mirco

 "competition"...  e si appoggiano sulla MCI Worldcom
*ROTFL*
Pirlissima(TM) la MCI Worldcom non c'entra un ca**o con le tre licenze
del governo iracheno!! :))   Non per niente dice che i servizi della MCI
Worldcom non sono disponibili per i cittadini iracheni :)
Ma la tua conoscenza dell'inglese e' ben rinomata :)))
*LOL*
-Stefano

 le buone cose, ne quelle cattive).
[..]
riprendo ad archiviare as usual, notizie del giorno:
oggi che gli hanno stirato due legionari... 
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3131791.stm
 
Last Updated: Thursday, 7 August, 2003, 11:27 GMT 12:27 UK  
Two US soldiers killed in Baghdad 
US raids have caused bad feeling 
Two American soldiers have been shot dead in a gun battle in the 
Iraqi capital, Baghdad.  
... e' interessante notare traccie di pensiero intelligente nelle 
dichiarazione un centurione li dislocato: 
The commander of the US-led forces in Iraq has signalled a change 
of tactics, because of fears that what he called
"iron-fisted" tactics could be provoking acts of revenge. 
[..] 
 
In an interview in the New York Times, he said that what he called 
his troops' "iron-fisted" approach was alienating the Iraqi public. 
General Sanchez said that the scale of raids in Iraq would now be reduced 
because they damaged Iraqis' dignity and self-respect and prompted some 
to acts of revenge. 
"When you take a father in front of his family and put a bag over his head 
and put him on the ground, you have had a significant adverse effect on his
 dignity and respect in the eyes of his family," he said. 
  [..] 
ma pensa te, e gli dovevano stirare una cinquantina di legionari 
(55 all'ultimo conteggio attualizzato)  prima che arrivassero ad una 
simile brillante osservazione - delle aquile. 
E' interessante notare la implicita confessione, prima c'era l'Iron Fist - che
uno dice  ma come non erano entrati in Babilonia da liberatori con folle
festanti che spargevano  petali di rosa al loro passaggio, te guarda:
"Iron Fist", 55 legionari stirati dal 1 maggio, 
il numero di legionari feriti dichiarato "informazione classificata" 
(vedi storia sul Guardian... 
Un beacon di democrazia e' l'Impero, ma davvero... 
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3126843.stm
 
 Last Updated: Tuesday, 5 August, 2003, 19:24 GMT 20:24 UK  
Iraq pneumonia spate baffles US 
 
  Didascalia di Foto: Pneumonia is common even if troops are told to keep healthy 
Army medical experts have been struggling to explain why about 100 US troops, 
who served mostly in Iraq, have contracted pneumonia since March. 
The army has discounted biological weapons and Sars as possible reasons 
for the spate which has killed two soldiers and made 13 others seriously ill. 
The illness has begun to attract public attention in the US, particularly 
after the two deaths, correspondents say. 
SERIOUS PNEUMONIA CASES IN US FORCES IN IRAQ REGION 
  March: 2 
  April: 2 
  May: 1 
  June: 6 
  July: 4  
The mother of Josh Neusche, 20, who died last month, told the UK's 
Bye

   July: 4
Hanno spostato quasi 200.000 persone da un luogo all'altro del
pianeta, con condizioni di vita molto diverse e sicuramente più dure.
Li hanno fatti vivere in una situazione di promiscuità maggiore del
solito. Probabilmente molti avranno trascurato i sintomi all'inizio,
per varie ragioni contingenti.
Che qualche batterio o virus a cui non erano abituati si diffondesse
era prevedibile.
Non mi sembra una epidemia, più che altro un problema di stress  che
ha reso più vulnerabili i combattenti a qualche agente patogeno locale
o, più probabilmente già presente nel loro organismo o ambiente, ma
innocuo in precedenza.
Non è una novità per i militari.
E' da sempre che esportano e importano malattie e che i medici
militari lottano per prevenire e curare queste situazioni.
Però i militari esportano e importano anche altre cose, come nuove
idee, mode, costumi.
Più tempo staranno li e più modificheranno la società irachena.
Mirco

Adesso ci si mette a far le proporzioni? Interessante.
Le proporzioni le si fanno anche in Italia, facendo pure i confronti di
anno in anno :))
-Stefano

 Più tempo staranno li e più modificheranno la società irachena.
[..]
o la societa' irachena modifica loro protandogli via un braccio od
una gamba e, visto che sono di nuovo in tema, ecco alcune
notizie su amputati nei ranghi imperiali.
 
ricollegandosi alla faccenda citata dal guardian, ovvero che i feriti
non
vengono conteggiati nelle statistiche imperiali, 
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1011691,00.html
 
  The unreported cost of war: at least 827 American wounded 
posto due articoli che ho trovato in rete googlando con la opzione
news.
Il tono scivola indubbiamente nella retorica tuttavia filtrata quella
i
fatti restano,  per inciso, pare che il numero ufficioso sia di 820
feriti
dal 1 Maggio, pero' aspetto di  vedere questo numero sulla BBC o CNN,
che non
e' chiaro se i sottocitati 
WP e CD si riferiscono a dati originali oppure all'articolo del
guardian.
 
http://www.startribune.com/stories/1762/4000156.html
 
  Stillwater GI lost his leg but not his fight 
  Anne Hull and Tamara Jones, Washington Post  
  Published July 22, 2003 STEW22 
 
 
  WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The taxi pulls up to the curb of Walter Reed
Army Medical Center, and Pfc. Garth
  Stewart slides in. 
   A nurse stows his duffel bag in the trunk, offering her last
advice. "Move your leg around on the flight," she
  says. 
  The American flag hangs slack on the flagpole. Stewart lays his
crutches across his lap. The lanky
  20-year-old soldier from Stillwater 
  rubs the place where his leg was amputated. The throbbing alternates
with jolts that feel like electrical
  shocks. 
  Two Percocets are in his pocket for the plane ride home. 
  [..] 
  Twice a week, transport planes land at Andrews Air Force Base,
bringing fresh casualties. Accidents,
  ambushes, pockets of resistance. 
  Nearly 650 soldiers have passed through Walter Reed during Operation
Iraqi Freedom, more than half since
  the war was officially declared over.
  Here, behind the black iron gates of the nation's largest military
hospital, the broad ambitions of global
  security are replaced by the 
  singular mission of saving a leg. Ward 57, the hospital's
orthopedics wing, is the busiest.
  High-tech body armor spared lives but not necessarily limbs. 
  The night President Bush declared the end of major combat, the
soldiers on Ward 57 slept, unaware of
  victory. 
  [..] 
  Four weeks earlier, Stewart was a mortar man with the 1st Battalion
of the 3rd Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division.
  "You get out of high school and you join the Army, or you get out of
high school and live in your parents'
  basement," he says. 
  He chose Fort Benning, Ga., over Stillwater. 
  For someone who signed up for four years of regimen and order,
Stewart was unusually iconoclastic.
  Tattooed on his chest 
  was a line from the novel "Fahrenheit 451" by Ray Bradbury: "If they
give you ruled paper, write the other way."
  And 
  yet he loved the discipline of Army life. At Fort Benning, he
competed on the martial arts team.
  Stewart was eager for the fight in Iraq. But Iraq turned out to be
messier than he thought. He saw charred
  bodies and 
  a grotesque assemblage of dead Iraqi soldiers who had barreled their
car into an American tank.
  On April 5, his unit was on the Karbala highway when some stopped
for a picture by a sign that said
  "Baghdad." Stewart and 
  a buddy decided to inspect a nearby bunker. The explosion blew both
of them down. Stewart's left boot was a
  wreck, and a chunk 
  was missing from his lower leg. His other leg had a softball-size
hole in the calf.
  [..] 
  Scenes from the war drift through his head. In Iraq, an Army general
came to his company and said, "Man,
  we gotta stop Saddam. He boils little girls in acid." The statement
struck Stewart as "hilarious propaganda."
  But lying in bed, he can't stop remembering all the Iraqi people who
came out of their houses to shake the
  hands of the U.S. troops.
  "Any beautiful and scornful poem you read about war, it's about the
horrible randomal ity of war," he says. The
  same Special Forces medic
   who treated Stewart and his buddy after they stepped on the land
mine was shot by a sniper two days later
  south of Baghdad.
  Now that medic is on Ward 57, minus his right leg. 
  Per inciso questo legionario vuol restare nell'esercito, non
stupido, visto che di certo non lo mandano piu'
  in zona operativa ed uno stipendio e' assicurato. 
 
http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/6454232.htm
 
   Posted on Mon, Aug. 04, 2003   
   Wounded soldiers battle injuries, emotions upon return to U.S. 
  BY KIRSTEN SCHARNBERG 
  Chicago Tribune 
  FT. CAMPBELL, Ky. - (KRT) - If not for the Purple Heart pinned to
his blue hospital gown, it would be
  impossible to identify David Ainslie as a hero of war.
  When his stretcher was carried off a military medical flight late
last month, returning him to Ft. Campbell, the
  home of the Army's 101st Airborne
   Division, his arrival was an understated affair. Just one man_a
doctor_made up his welcoming committee.
  Bands did not play patriotic songs; 
  politicians did not line up to call him a great American;
schoolchildren did not hold flags and banners and
  say they wanted to grow up to serve 
  their country, too. 
  Ainslie, a 35-year-old sergeant first class, was whisked within
moments from the medical plane to a medical
  bus to a medical facility. 
  He saw his orthopedic surgeon before his saw his wife and 2-year-old
daughter. He lay alone for hours in an
  unadorned hospital room, just 
  him and the pain and the shiny medal that attested to the fact he
was gravely wounded while fighting in Iraq.
  Less than 24 hours after Pfc. Jessica Lynch returned to West
Virginia in an emotional homecoming covered
  live on television, Ainslie 
  was back on the base where, before the war, he had been honored as
the division's top non-commissioned
  officer of the year.
  "It hasn't quite sunk in that I'm home yet," the soldier said,
twisting uncomfortably in his narrow hospital bed,
  trying to find a position in which his mangled leg, ankle and foot
didn't throb so much. "I'm not sure when it
  will."
  Unlike Lynch, whose capture and rescue in Iraq made her a household
name, no one aside from Ainslie's family and a few
  doctors paid the slightest heed to the platoon sergeant who had been
injured when four Iraqis speeded through a traffic
  control point in the northern city of Mosul last week, their
Kalashnikov rifles blazing.
  Ainslie's story illustrates how the scores of soldiers wounded in
Iraq are coming home: with little fuss from a nation that
  was philosophically torn over the war and that focuses much of its
attention on the hunt for weapons of mass destruction
  and Saddam Hussein.
  [..] 
  In the nearly three tense months since President Bush declared major
combat operations over in Iraq, the deaths and
  injuries of troops there have not stopped. Dozens of military
personnel are arriving home each week with non-combat
  injuries - bad backs from routinely humping 70-pound rucksacks for
miles on end, broken bones from traffic accidents on
  Baghdad's chaotic streets, skin diseases from the dry, hot, dusty
environment. But on top of that, many of the more than
  820 soldiers the Department of Defense reports have been wounded are
making their way back to the United States, many
  to check into military hospitals where they will spend weeks, if not
months, being nursed back to health.
  [..] 
  The physical recovery of these soldiers is nothing that can be
rushed. Less than 12 hours after arriving back at Ft.
  Campbell, Ainslie on Thursday was being prepped for what likely will
be the first of many surgeries to repair his damaged
  right leg. The majority of the bones were shattered when the Iraqi
vehicle - carrying four men shooting from its windows -
  mowed him down. The bulk of Ainslie's foot eventually will be held
together by steel plates, and doctors have told him
  that he might be up and mobile "in about a year."
  [..] 
  Pfc. Robert Shrode had come home to Ft. Campbell unheralded,
emerging from the belly of an Air Force jet to only his wife
  and father. There had not been a throng of well-wishers to thank him
for giving his right arm for his nation.
  Shrode's story is particularly hard to hear - and particularly hard
for him to tell. It was the night of June 5 in
  Fallujah, a city due west of Baghdad that resisted U.S. occupation
for several bloody weeks. A group of
  soldiers from Shrode's unit, the 2nd Battalion of the 502nd Infantry
Regiment, was just returning from a foot
  patrol through the city. As about six of them stood around a Humvee,
a rocket-propelled grenade smashed
  into the vehicle. Iraqis on nearby rooftops started firing rifles at
the same time.
  As he lay there, bleeding from his arm wound and the shrapnel
embedded in his face, neck and
  close-cropped head, the private had three thoughts: At least one of
his buddies - later identified as Pfc.
  Brandon Oberleitner, 20 - was dead. He was going to lose his right
arm. And where the hell was his gun?
  The attack had happened shortly after midnight. By about 3 in the
morning, Shrode's arm had been
  amputated. At about 6 a.m. he watched the sun rise over Kuwait City
as the medical helicopter landed to take
  him for treatment. Before the sun had set that evening, he was in
Germany, being stabilized to come back
  home. He got his Purple Heart in a brief, private bedside ceremony
that is hard to recall through the haze of
  painkillers.
  [..] 
  At some point almost everyone wonders if his or her sacrifice was in
vain. Ainslie and Shrode, despite the severity of their
  wounds, both answer no. Ainslie brags that his men killed all four
Iraqis who attacked his platoon that night, an attack that
  also wounded a second soldier who remains hospitalized, with half of
his stomach, intestines and colon removed. And
  Shrode, who had joined the Army less than two months after the
attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, puts it this simply: "I joined
  the military at a time when it was almost certain my country would
be doing battle somewhere. I made my peace then that
  I might get hurt - or worse."
  [..] 
  Bye

 
  Ovviamente occorre sempre distinguere tra fatto ed ipotesi. 
  Ad esempio, si potrebbe affermare che lo user Stefano De Cesari e' 
  un segaiolo che non ha nulla da fare nella vita a parte il postare 
  sui newsgroup della gerarchia it.* e che si fa dare dell'imbecille
da
  tutti. 
  "Stefano De Cesari non ha nulla da fare nella vita a parte il
postare"
  questo e' un fatto, google permette di restringere la ricerca al 
  singolo 
  giorno - osservando il numero dei post giornalieri e stimando i
tempi
  di stesura degli stessi e' facile raggiungere la conclusione citata.
  "Stefano De Cesari e' un segaiolo" "che si fa dare dell'imbecille da
  tutti" 
  la seconda affermazione la puo' provare proprio google, ovviamente 
  non solo la parola imbecille e' stata usata ma una rapida ispezione 
  delle repliche che riceve il noto minus habens convincera' del
fatto.
  Gli epiteti possono variare "veramente la persona piu' cretina mai 
  esistita" 
  etc.. etc.. attenzione alle variazioni, una ricerca troppo stretta 
  puo' far perdere, ad esempio, "quel coglione di Sodomeo De Cesari" 
  la prima affermazione "Stefano De Cesari e' un segaiolo" 
  e' affermazione imprecisa, trattasi di seghe mentali 
  o di seghe corporali? 
 
  Nel secondo caso, come direbbe il De Cesari stesso, 
  occorre prima  *dimostrare* che e' dotato della :)) attrezzatura 
  *LOL* necessaria *ROTFL*. 
  Nel primo caso, come mostra google, la preponderanza delle repliche 
  del De Cesari in cui nessuno fa un follow-up farebbe propendere per 
  una sostanziale correttezza di questa idea. 
  Questa in particolare e' nel quadro della sua nota difesa della 
  pedofilia 
 
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Stefano+Cesari+seghe&hl=it&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe
  off&selm=3ED5AE9B.98577393%
40interfree.it
&rnum=3 
  De Cesari ha fatto difesa delle pedofilia? 
  Lanciata cosi' e' una affermazione. 
  Messa cosi' e' un fatto: 
 
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Stefano+Cesari+pedofilia+reato+italia&hl=it&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&selm=3D974EC5.3DF733E2%40interfree.it&rnum=6

il FT del Friday August 8 riporta in prima pagina una notizia che
val la pena evidenziare, il titolo dell'articolo e' "Car Bomb kills 11
at embassy in Baghdad" ma la notizia vera non centra molto.
[..]
Meanwhile, PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH HAS APPOINTED THOMAS C. FOLEY,
a corporate turnaround expert and ONE OF HIS LEADING FUNDRAISERS
TO TAKE CHARGE OF THE PRIVATISATION AND REVIVAL OF IRAQ'S CORPORATE SECTOR
Mr. Foley is due to go to baghdad next week to take responsibility
for Iraq's roughly 200 stateowned businesses. He will join the coalition
provisional authority led by Paul Bremer, the de facto US viceroy in Iraq.
The president's direct involvement in the appointment underscores his concern
at the security and economic conditions in post war Iraq.
[..]
verrebbe da dire che occorre dargli un po tempo al Foley  per vedere 
le nuove fiorenti compagnie private in quel di Babilonia fare un bel 
contributo per la campagna elettorale dell'Imperatore nel 2004.
Bye

 soldiers on Ward 57 slept, unaware of victory.
Il pirla del giornalista non sa la differenza tra "fine dei
combattimenti principali" e "vittoria" :))
*LOL*
-Stefano

   Messa cosi' e' un fatto:
E' un fatto che la pedofilia non e' reato ne in Italia ne in nessun
altro paese del mondo :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

 [..]
Sempre dallo stesso numero, occorre dire che mai titoli sono stati piu'
misleading a pag 4 su "Iraqis mystfied at bomibing of Jordanian embassy"
compare il seguente significativo trafiletto:
"Iraqi National congress (INC) headed by Ahmed Chalabi" [..] 
"Mr. CHALABIS'S DAUGHTER ALSO PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE IN YESTERDAY 
WALL STREE JOURNAL ATTACKING JORDAN'S "SERVILE COMPLICITY WITH SADDAM"
AND DEFENDING HER FATHER AGAINST THE BANK FRAUD CHARGES HE FACED IN JORDAN"
Prima della autobomba all'ambasciata Giordana, cioe', ma te guarda.
Per la serie babbei allo sbaraglio, due guitti dal significativo nome
di Curt Mileikowsky and Evelyn Sokolowski [il primo former head of
Asea's nuclear power division, la seconda former head of the joint analysis
group for the Sweden's nuclear utilities] a pagina 13 cosi starnazzano:
Does the failure so far to find weapon of mass distruction prove the
war to have been unjustified? It does not.
[..]
In the end, what matter is not wheter Iraq's weapon's of mass destruction
can be found but whether the production of such weapons has been inhibited
for the foreseeable future.
Le decine di migliaia di morti civili iracheni, dovute agli effetti
indiretti (embargo) ed effetti indiretti (bombardamenti imperiali)
di questa politica di inibizione ringraziano - la cosa che
piu' mi sorprende e' che certa gente 'ste imbecillita' oltre a scriverle
le firma pure, dopo controllo in rete se questi due hanno mai parlato
della necessita' di inibire la produzione di weapon of mass distruction, 
puta caso, "made in israel" che, come e' noto  "alcuni maiali sono piu' 
uguali degli altri".
A proposito di embarghi, a pagina 14 c'e' "japan's oil hopes result
in slippery relations with US" la storia va che dalla crisi energetica 
(oil schock) del 1973 il giappone si e' premurato di assicurarsi
un flusso affidabile di petrolio "after 1973, japan changed its foreign
policy from pro-israel to pro-arab, putting Japan's national
interest in defiance of the US [Ken Koyama Insitute of Energy Economics]"
le compagnie giapponesi si sono date da fare per vincere contratti in Iran,
un lavoro diplomatico di anni che rischia di saltargli perche'
"Washington has made clear Japan should not invest in Iran"
e per il petrolio? Ci pensa lo Uncle Sam  " Washington appears to be offering
Tokyo other incentives to drop Azadegan[giacimento in Iran]: A SHARE
IN IRAQ'S OIL. One small deal has already resulted [..]"
manca l'opinione degli Iracheni ma si sa che l'Impero ha sempre 
a cuore i loro interessi (vedi la privatizzazione delle loro compagnie
che sara' diretta da THOMAS C. FOLEY, ONE OF HIS [dell'Imperatore] 
LEADING FUNDRAISERS.
Occhio comunque alla risposta giapponese:
an official at japan's trade and industry ministry [..] said
"japan is unlikely to give up Azadegan for an Iraqi deal when Iraq's future
is so unpredictable" 
Bye

 altro paese del mondo :)
Non so gli altri paesi, ma in Italia non esiste un reato chiamato
pedofilia.
Se uno ha rapporti sessuali con un soggetto inferiore di anni 13 è
automaticamente considerato Violenza Sessuale.
Ma il termine "pedofilia" non mi risulta esistere nel Codice Penale.
Se qualcuno ha fatti diversi, li porti.
Che poi i giornalisti scrivano cazzate, questo è risaputo.
Mica ce lo ha questo newsgroup il monopolio.
Mirco

 > "kidnapping, holding hostages, attacking a bank official and theft"

 
 
Solitamente non faccio grossi OT, particolarmente quando piu' che un thread
faccio un archivio di materiale sui server gentilemente messi a disposizione
da google - tuttavia, proprio perche' magari tra qualche anno qualcuno
leggera' questo materiale senza conoscere l'ecologia di questo NG, ho
voluto fare una digressione su una delle piu' notevoli sparate del minus
habens ROTFL :) de LOL :). 
In questo modo e' chiaro il perche' mi guardo bene dal replicargli.
Giusto per chiudere il sottohtread vediamo cosa dice la legislazione
italiana sul tema, googlando in giro ho pescato questo.
Bye
Nota Bene: con questo chiudo il sottoramo OT dedicato al minus habens
della gerarchia it* e alle sue notevoli affermazioni.
http://www.repubblica.it/online/internet/polizia/approva/approva.html
Pedofilia, ora c'è  una nuova legge
 
              ROMA - Pedofilia: ora c'è
              una legge. Dopo il sì della
              Camera, ieri, ecco che oggi
              è arrivato anche quello
              definitivo del Senato.   
[..]
              Giorno storico, giorno che apre una dichiarata una guerra,
              senza frontiere, ai pedofili siano essi navigatori di Internet,
              turisti sessuali, fruitori o venditori di materiale pornografico.
              Ora la pedofilia è un reato gravissimo
              perseguibile in Italia anche se il delitto è stato commesso
              all'estero. Ecco i punti centrali della nuova legge antipedofili
[..]              
              Prostituzione - Chiunque induce alla prostituzione un
              minore, o ne favorisce o sfrutta questa attività, è punito
              [..]
              Il cliente - Chi compie atti sessuali con minori di età
              compresa tra i 14 e i 16 anni in cambio di denaro o "altra
              utilità economica", rischierà dai sei mesi ai treanni di
              [..]
              Pornografia - Chiunque usi minori per esibizioni porno o
              produrre materiale a luci rosse, sarà punito con la
              [..]
              milioni. Lo stesso dicasi per chi commercia in questo
              materiale.
              Internet - Chi, anche per via telematica, distribuisce, divulga
              o pubblicizza il materiale porno (nonché informazioni
              finalizzate all'adescamento o allo sfruttamento sessuale di
              [..]
              Materiale porno - Anche chi regala ("cede") materiale
              [..] Come pure è vietato comprare o
              detenere alcunché abbia a che fare con lo sfruttamento
              sessuale dei minori (giornali, cassette...).
 
              Turismo sessuale - Chiunque organizza o propaganda
              viaggi che hanno come scopo incontri sessuali con minori va
              incontro al carcere (da 6 a 12 anni) e ad una multa (da 30 a
              [..]
              Sotto i 14 anni - La pena è aumentata di un terzo se ad
              essere coinvolto è un minore di 14 anni. E' pure un
              aggravante il ruolo sociale dell'adulto: se è un parente, un
              [..]
              All'estero - Tutte le norme del nuovo testo di legge che
              riguardano l'adescamento e lo sfruttamento sessuale dei
              minori sono valide anche per il cittadino italiano che
              commetta questi reati all'estero. (m.s.c.)
              (30 luglio 1998)

 la crescita. 
 [..]
segnalo parte di questa lettera comparsa nella rubrca lettere del
FT del 2/3 August 2003 (page 6)
"People who never dreamt they would  need to go on the dole may soon
join US welfare rolls" chi scrive e' una certa Carolyn Weddell da NY
(US)
So Alan Greenspan [..] and other have been "a little surprised" at how
strong productivity growth has been during our economic slowdown
(comment & analysis, July 29). I am not an economist but I was 
"worforce reduced" in March so I feel I can comment on possible
reasons for this "surprising" phenomenon.
Perhaps the terrified survivors of the job cuts have been putting
their
 collective noses to the grindstone, putting in unreported extra hours
so as
to appear as irreplaceable as possible. Their hope is that they can
sustain this unsustainable pace untile the economy improves.
Either that, or they will drop dead and be replaced, at which point
they
need no longer concern themselves.
segnali contraddittori, te dici, la cosa interessante da notare e' che
vi
sono segni di  comparsa, nell'Impero, di una categoria di persone
colpita
da ridondanze e da collateral damages dei noti crack tipo Enron,
Worldcom
etc... che appartengono anche ad una categoria di persone che legge
giornali tipo il FT (e gli scrive pure). La cosa che secondo me deve
ancora
essere determinata, lo sara' forse alle prox elezioni dell'Imperatore,
e' quanto pesera' la politica Imperiale di espansione sulle scelte di
questo elettorato alle prese con problemi assai piu' gravi e vicini, 
tipo incertezza del posto di lavoro.. a meno che l'Imperatore li 
trasferisce tutti di ufficio nelle nuove provincie annesse a lavorare 
per la Halliburton, sai che bene che gli farebbe alle statistiche di 
di disoccupazione.
A proposito di disoccupazione, le storie persoali dei legionari 
stirati (per intero o mezzi) in quel di babilonia mostra un panorama
assai
spesso tristo - tipo la soldata bufala che ha fatto la soldata perche'
voleva
poi diventare maestra, il tizio mutilato di cui ho postato la
testimonianza
che sostanzialmente diceva che non aveva nulal di meglio da fare. Mah!
Vedremo gli sviluppi.
Bye

 Pedofilia, ora c'è  una nuova legge
Il che conferma quello che ho detto io.
Quelle che sono elencate da Repubblica, che evidentemente non è la
Gazzetta Ufficiale (grazie a Dio), sono solo modifiche o aggiunte ad
altre leggi gia contenute nel Codice Penale.
Leggi sulla "Induzione alla prostituzione", sullo "sfruttamento della
prostituzione", sulla "distribuzioe di materiale pornografico", etc.
Non esiste un articolo di legge che si chiami "Pedofilia" o simili.
Se c'è postalo, prego.
Io, l'ultima legge che trovo è questa:
http://www.parlamento.it/parlam/leggi/98269l.htm
"Norme contro lo sfruttamento della prostituzione, della pornografia,
del turismo sessuale in danno di minori, quali nuove forme di
riduzione in schiavitu'."
pubblicata nella Gazzetta Ufficiale n. 185 del 10 agosto 1998
che è un po' più ufficiale di Rupubblica
e  da una ricerca sulla pagina non risulta il termine "pedo" da
nessuna parte.
e neanche sul motore di ricerca della Camera dei Deputati (italiana)
http://www.camera.it/chiosco_parlamento.asp?content=/parlam/leggi/deleghe/dlhome.asp
Mirco

 IN IRAQ'S OIL. One small deal has already resulted [..]"
[..]
Notare sotto.. dove c'e il petrolio la' c'e' l'Impero, in particolare
se non passa per il suo controllo - non gli basta l'Iraq? mah!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3132197.stm
Last Updated: Thursday, 7 August, 2003, 13:42 GMT 14:42 UK  
 
RWE faces US sanctions threat 
The US has warned the  German utility group RWE
that it could face sanctions  because of a deal to explore
for oil and gas in Libya. 
The US State Department said it was examining the contract
yo see if it broke the Iran-Libya Sanctions Act, passed in 1996. 
Under this law, the US can
punish foreign firms that invest more than $20m a year in the
energy sectors of Iran or Libya. 
"The United States policy has long been opposed to
investment in the petroleum sector of Libya," State
Department spokesman Philip Reeker said. 
He said Washington would be raising its concerns with the
company and the German government. 
RWE says its five-year contract does not break the limit. 
"The agreed work program will call for a total  of approximately
$56m in capital spending over a five-year period, i.e.
significantly less than $20m dollars per annum," it said in a statement. 
The Financial Times reported earlier that the deal signed at
the end of May with the Libyan National Oil Corporation is worth $64m.

...
recente materiale sui legionari imperiali a guardia della Babilonia
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
Last Updated: Thursday, 7 August, 2003, 11:09 GMT 12:09 UK  
Timeline: US losses in Iraq
US Central Command has  reported the deaths of 101
American service personnel  in Iraq since 1 May when
President Bush declared that major combat was over. 
da segnalare queste tre:
8 August: A soldier (Fourth Infantry Division) dies whilst
sleeping in the border town of Kirkush 
7 August: A soldier (101st Airborne Divsion) dies of a seizure
while performing duties in Mosul.
5 August: A soldier attached to the Coalition Land Forces
Component Command dies of an apparent heart attack.
L'Imperatore comunque dice la sua:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3135747.stm
Last Updated: Friday, 8 August, 2003, 20:29 GMT 21:29 UK  
Bush hails Iraq 'progress'
The United States has made  a lot of progress in the 100
days since the end of major  combat in Iraq, President
George W Bush has said.
[..]
President Bush, speaking to reporters at his ranch in
Texas, appeared upbeat  despite daily attacks on US
troops and Thursday's deadly
car bomb attack on Jordan's embassy in Baghdad. 
Non penso sia difficile apparire cosi' visto che a lasciare
le strasse non e' certo lui o uno della cerchia della sua corte.
e' interessante comunque il comparire di parole significative
"We've got a lot of brave soldiers slowly but surely
"lentamente ma sicuramente"
demolishing elements of the Baathist regime, those foreign
terrorists who feel like they can use Iraq to arm up and inflict
casualties or perhaps gain strength to come and attack
Americans elsewhere," Mr Bush said. 
[..]
Mr Bush would not say whether
"non dice se d'accordo [con stima di due anni in babilonia per le legioni]
he agreed with the commander of the US forces in Iraq,
Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez, who on Thursday said
troops would stay in Iraq for at least two years. 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3134763.stm
Last Updated: Friday, 8 August, 2003, 12:18 GMT 13:18 UK  
US awaits alleviation in Iraq
For the US soldiers seeking to keep the peace in central
Iraq, an end is in sight. 
As of September, a 9,000-strong international peacekeeping
mission under Polish control will take over in the lands south
of Baghdad, stretching from the Iranian border in the east to
the Saudi border in the west, taking in the cities of Karbala
and Nasiriya. 
etc.. la cosa piu' interessante e' la lista dei paesi che corrono
a soccorrere l'Impero, non voglio rovinare la sorpresa, dico solo
che si apre con l'Albania (non sto scherzando, ci sta proprio scritto).
Giusto che erano stati un po' trascurati ecco come se la passano
gli armigeri di Tony "poodle" Blair (e notate anche il livello di progresso
in questi mesi di occupazione)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3137779.stm
ast Updated: Saturday, 9 August, 2003, 19:53 GMT 20:53 UK  
UK troops attacked in Basra
British troops have come under attack by protesters in
Basra rioting over fuel and  electricity shortages. 
Trouble broke out in several  different areas of the southern
Iraqi city after an estimated  2,000 people took to the
streets in the stifling summer heat. 
 
[..]
The riots centred on petrol stations across the city, which
were unable to pump fuel because of power cuts. 
The cuts also meant air conditioning and fridges could not
work in the stifling summer heat of more than 50C.

has already resulted [..]"
Peccato che manchino le prove di questo "deal" e di questi "incentivi"
offerti da Washington :))
*LOL*
-Stefano

moderati e non)
Armi delle quali il Pirlissima(TM) ha le prove ma non le vuole mostrare
al mondo :)))
*ROTFL*
-Stefano

vediamo cosa dice la legislazione italiana sul tema,
E cosa dice caro Pirlissima(TM)? :))
Oppure per te un articolo di Repubblica e' "la legislazione italiana"?
:))
*LOL*
-Stefano

Se c'č postalo, prego.
Lo attendo con ansia anche io :)
-Stefano

...
 
Il sottoramo sulle perdite imperiali dovrebbe essere accessibile da
qui:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=%20&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_umsgid=%3C6196c429.030...@posting.google.com%3E&lr=&hl=en
E' interessante leggere prima queste citazioni da  articoli del FT
circa
le ragioni del perche' i Babilonesi siano abbastanza inclini a stirare
legionari che sono venuti (almeno a detta dell'Impero) a "liberarli"
FT del Friday July 11 page 1:
Titolo: US told stance may spur anarchy in Iraq
The law enforcement operation in Iraq could disintegrate unless
US forces stop "kicking ass" and take a more conciliatory attitude 
towards civilians, senior UK police advisers have told their
government.
Some UK officials have been appalled by the language and tactics
used by the US secuirty supremo, Bernard Kerik, the former New York
police
commissioner dubbed the "Baghdad Terminator" because of his
uncompromising style.
"The Americans need to learn that cvili policing is not about
'kicking ass', it is about democracy. There are going to be problems
if...
FT del Monday August 4
Iraqis doubt US explanation for continuing attacks
Fewer than a third of Iraqus believe the armed forces attacks against
coalition
forces are attributable to the former Ba'ath party operatives turned
guerrilla, as US official suggest, a public opinion survey suggest.
[..] many Iraqis brlieve the guerrillas are a new phenomenon, fuelled
by
nationalism, Islamism, and revenge. [..] behaviour by coalitions
troops and
failure to restore services [..] have eroded support for the US-led 
military presence.
 
Dubito che queste osservazioni siano mai arrivate a scalfire le
certezze
imperiali, ad esempio basta confrontare  con questa notizia
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3135747.stm
 
  Last Updated: Friday, 8 August, 2003, 15:58 GMT 16:58 UK  
  US snipers kill Iraqi 'arms dealers' 
  US snipers have killed at least two Iraqis whom they said were
selling weapons in Saddam Hussein's home town of Tikrit in northern
Iraq.
  The killings came a day after the US military signalled it planned
to act less aggressively amid fears of alienating the Iraqi public.
  [..] 
  But a spokesman at the main hospital in Tikrit told AFP news agency
US troops had killed five Iraqi men and a child when
  they opened fire on arms sellers who were test-firing Kalashnikov
rifles.
  [..] 
  In an interview published on Thursday, the commander of the 150,000
US
forces in Iraq, General Ricardo Sanchez,  said his troops'
"iron-fisted"
approach was provoking retaliation. 
But the BBC's Jonathan Head in Baghdad says the scenes in Tikrit
illustrate all
too starkly how difficult it will be for the US forces to soften their
approach.
On Friday, the military spokesman in Baghdad, Colonel Guy Shields,
suggested
any change in tactics would be limited. 
  "The rules of engagement have not changed," he said. 
  "We're still going to conduct raids, but what General Sanchez was
referring to
is that now with all the increased intelligence that we're getting, we
can be
more precise and go to a specific location which means that you don't
have to
disrupt such a large area." 
Ma d'altra parte, cosa aspettarsi da un paese che ha la pena di morte
e la
piu' significativa popolazione carceraria dei paesi cosidetti
"ricchi"?
L'Impero, un beacon di democrazia e di inividiabili condizioni di
vita.
Dopo le cause passo agli effetti:
  Da quando il guardian ha fatto il suo articolo, citando una cifra di
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1011691,00.html
 
  The unreported cost of war: at least 827 American wounded 
  in Data 4 agosto ho notato che vi e' una attenzione maggiore al tema
feriti,
  ad esempio la CNN  di 
 
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/08/10/sprj.irq.main/index.html
  Brits exchange fire with Basra mob 
  Sunday, August 10, 2003 Posted: 2121 GMT ( 5:21 AM HKT) 
  l'articolo come e' stile della CNN prima parla dell'argomento
principale
poi sotto  mette gli other developements etc.. 
  [..] 
  At least nine U.S. soldiers have been wounded over the past 24 hours
in attacks in Baghdad and Tikrit, military officials said Sunday.
  [..] 
  Since Friday, 13 U.S. soldiers have been wounded in attacks 
  Ovvero 13 / 3 = ca. 4 feriti giorno 
  se il Guardian aveva ragione a dare 827 since Operation Iraqi
Freedom began
  direi che la media sarebbe 827 / 137 (prego ricontrollare conti) =
ca. 6
   feriti al giorno 
  la correlazione non e' male, sarebbe interessante aver il totale
feriti
dal 1 maggio per  vedere se ci sono variazioni post e pre. 
  Anyway ecco la tabella aggiornata (fonte CNN. 31 Luglio) 
  MARCH Total 65 - Hostile deaths: 57 Non Hostile deaths: 08 Note:
from March 20
  APRIL Total 73 - Hostile deaths: 58 Non Hostile deaths: 15 
  MAY-- Total 37 - Hostile deaths: 07 Non Hostile deaths: 30 
  Note: 1 Maggio nota dichiarazione dell'Imperatore sul ponte della
portaerei
  JUNE- Total 28 - Hostile deaths: 17 Non Hostile deaths: 11 
  JULY- Total 46 - Hostile deaths: 27 Non Hostile deaths: 19 
  Dati ufficiosi danno 827 feriti al 4 agosto, estrapolazione del
trend
da dati CNN  da ca. 4 feriti al giorno. Alcune fonti hanno
sottolineato il
fatto che, essendo  l'uso di protezioni individuali (flak vest)
pressocche'
universale vi e' una alta  incidenza di mutilati (vivi in virtua'
della
flak vest che tuttavia non copre tutto). 
Vedasi post precedenti per le citazioni. 
Per finire ricordo a chi non lo conosce questo sito 
http://www.g2mil.com/Aug2003.htm
 e' interessante.. 
Rather than instantly re-forming Iraqi units, the US Army announced
that it
will pay the Vinnell Corporation, an insider group which employs
retired Army Generals, $48 million to "train" 12,000 Iraqi soldiers.
They claim this will
take a year, and Vinnell hopes to make "training the Iraqi Army" a
permanent
gravy train like they have in Saudi Arabia, and had in Vietnam.
.. ove si vede che la spinta ad usare i locali per mantenere l'ordine
pubblico ha il potenziale per trasformarsi in ricchi appalti per gli
amici..
ho trovato anche questo articolo, che si ricollega sempre al fatto del
perche' stirano legionari, la cosa piu' interessante e' come gli
Iracheni
attaccanti fossero in fondo dei  dilettanti - pessimo posto per un
imboscata,
nessuna via per disingaggiarsi,  scarso co-ordinamento e nessuna
azione
tipo far saltare con una mina il primo mezzo e  poi tirare con gli RPG
sugli altri mezzi fermi, etc.. comunque con la 
pratica si impara e, come si vede dalla fine dell'articolo, gli 
imperiali fanno di tutto per convincere i babilonesi a far pratica. 
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41178-2003Aug10.html
 
  A Villager Attacks U.S. Troops, but Why? 
  Iraqi's Life and Death Provide Cautionary Tale 
  By Anthony Shadid 
  Washington Post Foreign Service 
  Monday, August 11, 2003; Page A01 
  ALBU ALWAN, Iraq -- On a sun-drenched plain along a bluff of barren
cliffs, a cheap headstone made of cement marks the grave of Omar
Ibrahim Khalaf. His name was hastily
  scrawled in white chalk. Underneath is a religious invocation that
begins, "In the name of God, the most merciful and compassionate." It
is followed simply by the date of his
  death, Friday, Aug. 1. 
 
  But one word on the marker distinguishes Khalaf's resting place. His
epitaph declares him a shahid, a martyr.
  In a 15-minute battle so intense that villagers called it a glimpse
of hell, U.S. forces killed Khalaf as he tried to fire
rocket-propelled grenades at a convoy. A .50-caliber round
  tore off his skull. Machine-gun fire almost detached his left arm
and ankle, which were left dangling from a corpse riddled with bullets
and smeared with blood and the powdery
  dirt of the Euphrates River valley. 
  Beyond Khalaf's home of Albu Alwan, his death has been little more
than a footnote in a simmering guerrilla war that has claimed the
lives of 56 U.S. soldiers since major
  combat operations were declared over May 1. But in the mystery that
still shrouds the dozen or so attacks carried out daily against U.S.
troops occupying the country, Khalaf's
  life provides a cautionary tale about today's Iraq -- and where the
combustible mix of poverty, anger and resentment can lead.
  American officials contend that the vast majority of the attacks are
driven by remnants of former president Saddam Hussein's government and
the Baath Party he used for 35
  years to hold power. Men like Khalaf, they say, are the foot
soldiers lured by bounties that run as high as $5,000, perhaps
motivated by loyalty to the fallen government, or by fear
  from threats to their family if they refuse to fight. 
  But the portrait of Khalaf that emerged from interviews last week
suggests a more complicated figure.
  A 32-year-old father of six, he was an army deserter who, villagers
say, had nothing to do with the Baath Party. He prayed at the mosque
on Fridays, although he was not a
  fervently religious man. His hardscrabble life was shaped by the
grinding poverty of his village, whose burdens have mounted since the
government's fall on April 9. In the end,
  many here speculated he was changed irrevocably by the perceived
day-to-day humiliations of occupation.
  To some of his friends and family, he represents an Iraqi everyman,
a recruit whose very commonality does not bode well for U.S. troops
battling a four-month guerrilla
  campaign in northern and western Iraq that few in Albu Alwan seem to
believe will end soon.
  A nine-vehicle convoy of the 43rd Combat Engineer Company was just a
few miles outside of Fallujah when the attack began. It was 7:15 a.m.,
and the assailants were hidden
  about 50 yards from the well-traveled road. 
  It was already a chaotic day for soldiers of the 3rd Armored Cavalry
Regiment, which patrols most of western Iraq, an arid swath
intersected by the Euphrates River. Three
  attacks had been reported overnight. Four more would follow later
that day. For a region that had previously witnessed just three or
four attacks a week, the ambushes and
  raids marked one of the most violent 24-hour periods in recent
times.
  Khalaf and at least 10 others seemed to have chosen their spot for
the canals that provided cover. They lay waiting in one, and another
canal snaked behind it. Both were filled
  with stagnant water and overgrown with reeds as high as 10 feet. The
village of Falahat was less than a mile away, but the spot itself was
interspersed only with fields of clover
  and orchards of apricot trees and palms laden with ripening dates. 
  The first volley sent three rocket-propelled grenades at the convoy,
soldiers said. Two missed their mark; a third hit the road underneath
a Humvee, damaging the oil pan and
  transmission and disabling the vehicle. 
  The soldiers returned fire with .50-caliber machine guns, lighter
weapons and grenade launchers, the burst so intense that even
villagers in Falahat said they sought cover.
  The U.S. troops immediately called in reinforcements, and Lt. Noah
Hanners, the platoon leader of Heavy Company, arrived soon after in a
tank from a base about six miles
  away. 
  The Iraqi assailants fired their Kalashnikov rifles wildly and
lobbed badly aimed grenades every couple of minutes, Hanners said. But
outgunned and outtrained, it was a losing
  battle almost from the start. The U.S. soldiers were on higher
ground. Khalaf and the others, all in civilian clothes, were concealed
by the canal's vegetation but, Hanners said,
  they had no way to flee. 
  "You could see the cattails move as they tried to run, so we just
put a large volume of fire down on the canals," Hanners said.
  Hanners said he believes Khalaf was one of the first to die, when he
raised his head above the canal's reeds and was struck by a
.50-caliber round. "His head was pretty much
  missing," he said. One or two others were killed at about the same
time. As the assailants tried to escape through the canals, two or
three more were killed, Hanners said. No
  U.S. soldiers were hurt. 
  By the time a second tank arrived at about 7:30 a.m., the fight was
over, and the soldiers took the body of Khalaf and two others to the
base. At least one other corpse -- too
  badly mangled to move -- was left behind. 
  Days later, Hanners speculated that Khalaf was at the end of a chain
that began with a paymaster, who was in turn linked to a former
military officer or someone else who could
  find weapons and plan the ambush. He was confident that Khalaf was
paid.
  But as for motives other than money, Hanners said, it was only
guesswork. "Pretty much anything you can come up with, any motive you
can come up with, is a possibility," he
  said. "They could be anybody." 
  A Hatred for Americans 
  Khalaf was the second-youngest in a family of six brothers and six
sisters who belong to a Sunni Muslim tribe that gave its name to the
village. He was known as hot-tempered,
  but with a sense of humor. He had curly black hair and a patchy
beard more the product of oversight than grooming. As a 12-year-old,
he lost one front tooth and chipped the
  other while roughhousing. 
  Like many in the village of a few thousand, his education ended with
elementary school, and he soon went to farming hay, barley, wheat and
sunflowers on an eight-acre plot
  he inherited from his father. He was drafted during the 1980-88
Iran-Iraq war, but deserted his post after serving six months in the
Euphrates town of Hit. He married young and
  struggled to make money. 
  A few years ago, he landed a $600 contract hauling construction
material to the resort of Sadamiya on Tharthar Lake, friends said. But
most of the time was spent surviving,
  driving a truck back and forth to Jordan and herding his 15 sheep
and one cow.
  His brother, Abdel-Latif, said that before the war Khalaf managed to
make about $90 a month, enough to get by. In its chaotic aftermath, he
said, he was making no more than
  $6 a month. His house, started four years ago, remains an empty
shell of concrete floors and unfinished tan brick walls. His wife gave
birth to their sixth child last month, a boy
  named Radwan. 
  "He had no money," said Khaled Mawash, a neighbor who knew Khalaf's
family.
  In a village where everybody knows everybody's business, neighbors
said he was devastated by the quick fall of Baghdad. One shopkeeper
said Khalaf told him that he wept all
  day at his home after the American forces arrived in the capital.
Others recalled the anger that he loudly voiced as the U.S. patrols
barreled down the highway perched just over
  his house and fields. The sight, they said, was so repugnant to him
that he quit playing soccer in a dusty field adjacent to the bridge
that the convoys used.
  A month ago, a boy from the village threw a grenade at a nearby
convoy, and soldiers responded by entering the village and surrounding
Khalaf's house.
  "If I had a grenade, I would kill myself and take them with me," a
childhood friend, Mawlud Khaled, recalled him saying.
  Neighbors said his behavior grew increasingly erratic as the weeks
passed. In vain, he once fired a Kalashnikov rifle at a U.S.
helicopter passing overhead. One morning a
  week before his death, the summer heat already hanging like a haze
over the village, he ran at a passing convoy dressed only in shorts,
neighbors recalled. His family had to
  restrain him. 
  "He hated the Americans," Khaled said. "He didn't care whether he
died or not."
  Two weeks ago, neighbors said, he wrote the names of three people on
a piece of paper. He owed each money -- between $10 and $30. A few
days later, on Aug. 1, he woke
  up early and dressed in gray pants and a plaid shirt. A little
before 7 a.m., he was seen taking his sheep to graze in a nearby
pasture. He left without saying a word to his wife,
  his family or anyone else in the village. 
  "Nobody knew where he went," Nawar Bidawi, a 41-year-old cousin,
said.
  Honored as a Hero 
  At a U.S. base near Habaniya, Khalaf's body was stored in a black
body bag in a small cement room for three days. The stench from the
bodies was so overpowering that
  soldiers at the front gate, about 100 yards away, burned paper to
fend off the smell.
  Khalaf's oldest brother, Abdel-Latif, and his brother-in-law were
escorted by Iraqi police to the base. Soldiers suggested they take all
three bodies, but Abdel-Latif said he
  claimed only his brother, whom he identified by his bloodied clothes
and his chipped front tooth. The rest of his face, he said, was
unrecognizable.
  Along the gulf that divides occupier and occupied, the slights often
seem unintended, perhaps unavoidable. Khalaf's family was outraged
that he had been left lying on his
  stomach, rather than his back. His head faced the ground, rather
than the Muslim holy city of Mecca. His body was left in a hot,
windowless room, rather than refrigerated. And
  they insisted it was already riddled with maggots. 
  "The treatment was inhuman," said Mohammed Ajami, Khalaf's
brother-in-law.
  In a blue Volvo, they returned at 3:30 p.m. and, before dusk, buried
Khalaf in a wooden coffin at the Kiffa cemetery. As a martyr, he was
interred as he died, in his clothes and
  unwashed. The wounds, according to custom, bore testimony to his
martyrdom.
  His family said a convoy of 100 cars carrying 250 people accompanied
Khalaf's body. And in the mourning that ensued, Khalaf went from
spectacle to hero. The three men he
  owed money forgave his loans, said Omar Aani, the sheik at the
village mosque. Neighbors collected money for his children, now
considered by Islamic tradition to be
  orphans. A family that had battled with Khalaf for a year over the
rights to water from an irrigation canal apologized to his family and
declared they were ashamed by their enmity.
  "They recognized that he was a true hero," said Khaled, the
childhood friend. "They regretted not talking to him."
  In private, a few in Albu Alwan voiced rumors that Khalaf may have
been motivated in part by money. Others vigorously and sometimes
angrily shook their heads at the
  suggestion, a denial motivated perhaps more by respect than reality.
  "The most important thing is that he was so upset" by the soldiers,
said Muwaffaq Khaled, a 21-year-old neighbor. "Money wasn't important
because he knew he would be
  killed. If I'm Muslim and I respect God, I can't die for money. It's
haram, forbidden."
  "I know him well," his brother, Mawlud, interjected. "It wasn't a
matter of money."
  In villages like Albu Alwan, bound by tradition and populated by
Sunni Muslims who have bristled most at the occupation, many insist
they are confused by the source of attacks
  on U.S. troops. Are they loyalists of Hussein, or driven by Islam? 
  At one house, a neighbor of Khalaf, Saad Kamil, 22, expressed
puzzlement at graffiti he saw recently in nearby Fallujah. One slogan
saluted Hussein as "the hero of heroes."
  But another intoned in religious terms, "God bless the holy fighters
of the city of mosques." Nearby was graffiti that read, "Fallujah will
remain a symbol of jihad and resistance."
  "People are confused. Is it for Saddam or is it for Islam?" he
asked. "I tell you I don't know."
  But a week following his death, Khalaf's decision to fight the
Americans had become a larger symbol of objections to the occupation.
A 23-year-old shopkeeper across the
  street from Kamil's house, Abdel-Salam Ahmed, called Khalaf a hero
motivated by hatred of the American presence that many in the village
have found humiliating. What will
  follow, he said, is clear. "Revenge is part of our tradition," he
said.
  Khalaf's brother talked of the promises he said were broken by the
Americans -- a share of Iraq's oil they were supposed to receive, $100
payments that would come with better
  rations, jobs and prosperity that were supposed to follow more than
12 years of sanctions. His brother-in-law complained of the daily
degradations -- U.S. soldiers making men
  bow their heads to the ground, an act he said should only be done
before God. He recalled soldiers pointing guns at men in front of
their children and wives.
  "He has become a model for everyone to follow," said Aani, the
village sheik, who acknowledged that he had to ask friends who Khalaf
was after he died. "The person who
  resists this situation becomes an example."

left behind.
Beh, lo spiega il Pirlissima(TM) agli altri 6 o 7 che sono scappati che
non avevano vie di fuga? :)))
*ROTFL*
-Stefano

 
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Ho cercato di fare un po' di post processing dei dati che si trovano
in giro
  per la rete cercando di fare anche un confronto con la prima
campagna
  di Babilonia sotto l'Imperatore Bush il Vecchio 
 
http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/
 
  There have been 308 confirmed coalition deaths in the war as of
August 12, 2003. The casualty list below reflects the
  names of the U.S. and British soldiers, Marines, airmen and sailors
whose families have been notified. This list is updated daily.
  Non e' vero comunque che e' updated daily, la lista mantenuta dalla
BBC mi sembra piu'
  veloce negli aggiornamenti - inoltre sulla CNN non sempre trovo la
finistrea interactive che uso come riferimento,
  quindi faccio le considerazioni seguenti sui dati chiusi a fine mese
di Luglio (fonte CNN)
  There have been 293 confirmed coalition deaths in the war as of July
       31, 2003. The casualty list below  reflects the names of the
U.S. and
       British troops whose families have been notified. This list is
updated daily
         [..] 
       AL 31 LUGLIO numeri trascritti dal CNN "interactive" una
finestra spesso linkata
       nella ultima  storia reperibile che parli di un attacco alle
legioni
       imperiali in quel di babilonia  (ultimamente sparita, sara' in
vacanza chi la mantiene)
         MARCH Total 65 - Hostile deaths: 57 Non Hostile deaths: 08 
         Note: from March 20 
         APRIL Total 73 - Hostile deaths: 58 Non Hostile deaths: 15 
         MAY-- Total 37 - Hostile deaths: 07 Non Hostile deaths: 30 
         Note: 1 Maggio nota dichiarazione dell'Imperatore sul ponte
della  portaerei
         JUNE- Total 28 - Hostile deaths: 17 Non Hostile deaths: 11 
         JULY- Total 46 - Hostile deaths: 27 Non Hostile deaths: 19 
       [..] 
  Nota, il totale da 249 vs. i 293 direi che questo e' dovuto al fatto
293 e' il totale
  sulla coalizione mentre 249 sono i soli imperiali veri e propri
(ricontrollero' alla
  prossima volta che ricompare la tabella interattiva siachiaramente
marcata per
  le sole perdite imperiali, inoltre rifaro' le addizioni che non si
sa mai)
  Anyway tornando alle campagne militari dell'Imperatore Bush il
Vecchio,
  dando una occhiata in giro in rete pare ufficiale che siano queste
cifre per la prima guerra del golfo
  United States: 148 killed in action, 458 wounded. Also, 121
Americans died through non-combat
  incidents. 
 
http://www.historyguy.com/GulfWar.html#gulfwarcasualties
 
 
http://www.cryan.com/war/
 
  (se qualcuno ha dati migliori prego postare) 
  Vi e' un sito geocities che riporta queste cifre 
 
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Quarters/2061/index.html
 
  .. andrebbe trovata la quote originale, ovvero: 
  According to the Department of Defense, twenty-four percent of the
146 American battle deaths during Operation Desert
  Storm were by "friendly fire." A further fifteen percent of the 480
wounded were by our own troops.
  .. comunque la pagina intera merita di esser letta...  
  Anyway avendo detto questo ho fatto una comparazione tra 
  Imperiali Stirati Parzialmente o Interamente 
  nella Prima Guerra del Golfo, Imperatore Bush il Vecchio: 
  269 total deaths di cui 148 KIA e 121 "non-combat incidents" , plus
458 wounded
  e nella Seconda guerra del golfo [al 31 Luglio], Imperatore Bush il
Giovane
  249 total deaths di cui 166 KIA e 83 Non Hostile deaths , plus 840
wounded (non confermato ufficialmente)
  (KIA sta per Killed in Action) 
  Confrontando la seconda con la prima si ha quindi che 
  Il numero delle morti totali della seconda e' inferiore alla
prima(al 31 Luglio)
  Il numero delle morti ostili della seconda  e' superiore alla prima,
(al 31 Luglio)
  i feriti sono in rapporto 2:1 ((al 31 Luglio - ma il  secondo dato
non e' ufficiale)
  per inciso c'e' questa pagina interessante 
 
http://www.cryan.com/war/death.html
 
  Nome dell'evento  ? numero di legionari impegnati ? numero di
legionari stirati
  Persian Gulf War ?  467,539 ? 268 
  Other Notable Deaths in 1991: 
  Cause Total Dead Civilian Casualties = The Civilian Casualties is
calculated by converting the total year dead by the number
  of days the war lasted, 43. This table is provided to show how
effective the war strategy was on saving lives on the
  front line.
  Che non e' male come idea, questo user ha preso il numero dei morti
annuali lo ha diviso
  per 365 per avere il giornaliero e lo ha moltiplicato per 43 per
avere un numero paragonabile
  ai dati  nella prima, con questo criterio lo user ottiene 
  Causa di Morte ? Totale ? subtotale a 43 giorni (come prima guerra
golfo)
  Motor Vehicle ? 43,500 ? 5,125 
  Falls ? 12,200 ? 1,437 
  Poison ? 5,600 ?660 
  Drowning ? 4,600 ?542 
  Ingestion of food ? 2,900 ? 342 
  Firearms ? 1,400 ? 165 
  Poison ? 800 ? 94  
  da cui conclude che "show how effective the war strategy was on
saving lives on the front line."
  effettivamente il dato piu' omogeneo sarebbe quello delle firearms.
Secondo i dati di questo
  user sono (corretti) 165 da confrontare con 148 - il che porta alla
affascinante conclusione
  che per un suddito dell'Impero e' piu' sicuro andare in posto ove vi
e' un significativo numero
  di persone che fa del suo meglio per stirarlo che starsene nel
territorio metropolitano.
  'azzo che bel posticino l'impero - voglio andare in cerca delle
statistiche sulla criminalita'.
  Anyway, detto questo finisco questo riassunto con confronto
ricordando
  il piu' aggiornato (solitamente) 
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
 
  Altre statistiche aggiornate si trovano nelle notizie giornaliere
dalla Babilonia,
  tipo (fonte BBC data sotto in Tuesday, 12 August, 2003, 20:34 GMT
21:34 UK)
  [..] 
  Our correspondent says there are about 12 attacks a day against
American soldiers in Iraq according to coalition sources.
  [..] 
  ah, pare che i babilonesi stiano migliorandosi come tecniche. 
 
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3145349.stm
 
  [..] 
  A US military spokeswoman said three synchronised bombs blew up near
a military convoy in the outskirts of the town on
  Tuesday. 
  The BBC's Matthew Price said it is believed that the three devices
had been tied together and were set off as their convoy passed
  [..] 
  last but not least, qualora volete leggervi una cronologia dell'Iraq
dal 1920 ad oggi c'e':
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/737483.stm
 
  e se volete dare una occhiata a come la pensano quelli che stanno 
  tendenzialmente piu' dalla parte dei "liberati" ecco qua un link 
 
http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2003-08/12/article11.shtml
 
  Bye

non e' ufficiale)
Ora dovresti valutare i tempi della prima con i tempi della seconda :))
Altrimenti caro Pirlissima(TM) la cosa avrebbe ben poco senso :)
-Stefano

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Dopo il post processing dei dati (vedasi post precedente)
ecco alcune risorse assortite sul tema perdite imperiali.
 
A proposito la breaking news di oggi e' che hanno stirato un
armigero di Tony "poodle" Blair - evento da notare essendo
che si tratta di zona Scita - i dettagli qua:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3151647.stm
Last Updated: Thursday, 14 August, 2003, 17:23 GMT 18:23 UK  
British soldier killed in Basra
One British soldier has been killed and two others injured
in an explosives attack in southern Iraq, the Ministry of
Defence has confirmed. 
[..]
e' interessante notare questa parte:
[..]
It detonated as the soldiers -
heading to hospital in Shaibah for a routine matter - passed it
by in an army ambulance clearly marked with a red cross, said
a spokesman. 
[..]
vorrei  rispondere in stile guerra alla yugoslavia, tipo che
il pilota era cosiiiiii' concentrato a colpire il ponte che
non ha visto il treno che ci passava sopra, quindi collateral damages.
Quindi direi che chi ha fatto detonare la bomba era cosiiiii'
concentrato
sulle ruote che non ha visto la croce rossa sulla fiancata. collateral
damages.
A chi pensa che sono cinico consiglio di leggersi 
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3145965.stm
Last Updated: Tuesday, 12 August, 2003, 22:40 GMT 23:40 UK  
 US cleared over Iraq hotel deaths
A US military investigation  has concluded that American
soldiers who fired on a  Baghdad hotel used by
journalists during the war had strong reason to believe
that hostile forces were in  the building. 
[..]
questa e' da segnalare..
[..]
The tank had targeted the hotel after seeing a person with
binoculars on an upper floor acting in a manner consistent
with that of a spotter. 
[..]
.. e da conservare per futuro uso. Come il treno sul ponte.
Ah, da bravi vassalli gli UK stanno prendendo lo stesso vizio
dell'Impero 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3151989.stm
dividendo tra morti ostili e non ostili
[..]
It is thought his death was related to a medical issue.
[..]
come se lo stress non uccida, vedasi casi tra gli imperiali.
Anyway qui di seguito c'e' un piu' lungo e sostanziato articolo
citato qui sotto, ecco i vari link
http://www.antiwar.com/ewens/casualties.html
 
  con anche grafici, questi un po' artigianali (ma veloci da
scaricare)
 
http://www.antiwar.com/ewens/chart.html
 
  questo fatto meglio all'interno di un articolo 
 
http://www.counterpunch.com/rooij08092003.html
 
  che tra l'altro contiene questa affermazione che sarei curioso 
  di vedere il riferimento originale: 
  There are a fair number of foreign nationals in the US army. Among
the casualties since May
  1st there are four foreigners (Polish, Guyanese, Mexicans). One of
these received the US
  nationality posthumously. What an honor! Why didn't CNN or Fox film
the spectacle of a coffin
  where the US flag is bestowed on the remains of the foreign
mercenary?
  a proposito informazioni sulla paga dei legionari si trovano sotto
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3084407.stm
 
  tra l'altro questo articolo posta riferimenti che fanno suppore un
certo grado di contabilita'
  creativa da parte delle fonti ufficiali per tener basso il numero
dei KIA
  [..] 
  The first evidence that the home-team body count is being
whitewashed has to do with the
  "cause of death". There are increasing reports that soldiers killed
due to hostile action are
  listed by the Pentagon as killed in accidents [6]. A clear example
is the killing of Sgt.
  Christopher Coffin--listed as "died [] after his vehicle ran into a
ditch on July 1st." However,
  other reports state: "his convoy was hit by an improvised explosive
device." There are far too
  many fatalities with the Humvee (the military SUV)--its record
certainly suggests the need for
  the promotion of safety belt usage. There have been 19
traffic-related fatalities, most of them
  Humvee rollovers. However, this author suspects that its associated
fatalities are likely to be
  from hostile action. Other causes like: "responding to a civilian
call when his vehicle rolled
  over," are suspicious -- the US military responding to a "civilian
call"? Hmmm Soldiers stepped
  on a landmine near the airport, but the landmine was supposedly
planted before May 1st;
  presto, this was classed as an accident [7]. 
  [..] 
  One doesn't have to go further than the CentCom and DefenseLink
reports to determine that
  whitewashing of the casualty figures is taking place. CentCom
usually issues a press release
  with a cursory explanation of the circumstance, but without a name,
when there is a US
  fatality. After notifying the next of kin, DefenseLink issues a
press release with the names of
  the victims and a broader explanation of the cause of death. The
bright lights hired by the
  Pentagon don't realize that in some instances the cause of death is
reported as hostile by
  CentCom, but then as an accident in the DefenseLink release. For
example, on May 26th the
  CentCom lists a cause of death as a "landmine or unexploded
ordnance"; a few days later
  this is listed as hitting unexploded ordnance, thus accidental.
There is a disparity in about a
  dozen of the CentCom and DefenseLink announcements [8]. Furthermore,
by the time the
  incidents are reported by DefenseLink, the cases of wounded soldiers
have been expunged.
  The title of one communiqué: "Third Armored Cavalry Regiment Convoy
Ambushed" (May 26),
  but one must read the body of the press release to find that one
soldier was killed. Whereas
  usually the press release title indicated casualties, now one must
now read all communiqués
  to find references to casualties.
  [..] 
  plus dei caveat assortiti; 
  [..] 
  Here is an emerging trend: Tracking the number of dead in Reuters,
AP, or BBC already yields
  a higher number of casualties than those reported by the
Pentagon--admittedly there is a
  small discrepancy at present [10]. July 28th is an interesting
example; early in the day, the
  BBC reported two combat fatalities, but later on, the BBC Online
altered its reports to show
  one fatality and one accidental death. Furthermore, the delay
between the date of the death
  and the date of a confirmation has also increased--reporting may
soon be offered on a
  weekly basis [11].
  [..] 
  per inciso sto dando una occhiata al sito
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/iraq/casualties/
  a 54 anni (cinquantaquattro anni???) sulla frontline ?! 
 
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/iraq/0303/vignettes15.html#rowe
  'azzo l'ultima volta che ho visto ste eta' era alla caduta del terzo
reich quando hanno messo
  vecchi e bambini in prima linea - mi sa tanto che l'impero e' a
corto di legionari (che effettivamente
  non e' poi cosi' gran pagato come lavoro..) 
  last but not least: 
 
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3149325.stm
 
  Last Updated: Thursday, 14 August, 2003, 00:28 GMT 01:28 UK  
  US families want troops home 
 
  Campaigners says US troops in Iraq are demoralised 
  A movement calling for the immediate withdrawal of United States
troops from Iraq has been started by the
  families of US soldiers and army veterans. 
  Supporters of the movement, calling itself Bring Them Home Now, say
US soldiers, who face daily attacks in
  Iraq, are demoralised.

 .. e da conservare per futuro uso. Come il treno sul ponte.
Peccato che il Pirlissima(TM) con la sua nota conoscenza della lingua
inglese, abbia dimenticato di leggere la parte iniziale dell'articolo:
----
The report of the military investigation has not been made public,
----
Cioe' quelle riportate sono tutte ipotesi del giornalista :)))
*LOL*
Continua cosi' Pirlissima(TM) che sei sempre piu' un mito :)
Alla prossima :)
-Stefano

   
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SETTIMO EPISODIO DELLA SERIE LA TELEFONIA MOBILE IN BABILONIA
http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c=StoryFT&cid=1059479313188&p=1012571727172
con pure un telefonino ad adornare l'articolo...
Iraqis say they are in the dark over rebuilding plans
By John Dizard
Published: August 25 2003 22:53 
[..]
In telecommunications, it is taking some time to fix the landline
telephone service. But in July regional operators were asked to switch
off the rough and ready services they had started to provide inside
Iraq, as the US invited tenders for a new cellular telephone system.
Yet one member of a bidding consortium describes the tendering
process--which initially offered companies only two weeks to submit
their bids for a two year concession--as opaque, unrealistic and
technically incompetent.
[..]
Non male eh?
L'articolo e' davvero carino e merita di essere duplicato su google
che
non vorrei mai sparisse dal sito FT - notare la tattica della
Halliburton,
un must read...
At the Doura power station, a large oil-fired plant that supplies much
of Baghdad's electricity, a single engineer is working with an
acetylene torch to repair a much patched heat exchanger.
The site is strewn with rusted pipes, broken gauges and refuse. Only
two of its four turbines are in working order. An aged Fiat gas
turbine wheezes along on low-pressure natural gas. Doura's two broken
turbines are supposed to provide 320MW, equivalent to a 10th of Iraq's
entire current production. But the Siemens engineers whose company
built the plant have made a survey and gone home; their future work
schedule is not clear. The US army unit is an Airborne artillery
company, not Corps of Engineers specialists.
"You don't see the civilians out here," an army officer grimaces,
referring to the Coalition Provisional Authority. "The Iraqis just
agree with everything you ask, and then nothing happens."
The fitful effort to restore electricity supplies epitomises the so
far ineffectual reconstruction effort in Iraq. Shortages--not just of
energy but of goods and services of all kinds--remain acute. The lack
of security and the country's dilapidated condition remain the two
biggest problems. But increasingly contractors and CPA dissidents
openly allege that the US's direction of Iraq's recovery is beset by
bureaucratic inertia and mismanagement. "The Americans have a lot of
problems," says Dattar Kassam, director-general of Baghdad's refinery.
"They are overwhelmed and understaffed. Just when I get to know one of
them, he gets himself sent back.
"Until the war broke out, I used to be able to order my own
high-priority spare parts through Jordan. We are depending now on KBR
[Kellogg, Brown and Root, a Halliburton subsidiary] to order our spare
parts, but so far we haven't received any."
In telecommunications, it is taking some time to fix the landline
telephone service. But in July regional operators were asked to switch
off the rough and ready services they had started to provide inside
Iraq, as the US invited tenders for a new cellular telephone system.
Yet one member of a bidding consortium describes the tendering
process--which initially offered companies only two weeks to submit
their bids for a two year concession--as opaque, unrealistic and
technically incompetent.
Similar discontent has been stirred in the Iraqi banking sector by the
CPA's decision to seek international operators for a new Trade Bank of
Iraq.
Local bankers strongly dispute the assertion by Peter McPherson, the
Michigan state university president seconded to be head of the US
Treasury's Iraq team, that the Iraqi financial sector is "not in a
position to undertake (trade finance) at this time. They do not have
much capital, and most of them are undergoing restructuring. What you
see are just empty shells." According to Ayad Al Atia, the head of the
Iraqi Bankers' Association and an officer of the Warka Investment
bank: "Comments such as that just show the ignorance of the Coalition
Provisional Authority."
In practice, private banks such as Warka not only preserved their
records during the war and its aftermath but have established ties
with Iraqi private companies and long experience in executing trade
finance. As set up under an administrative order dated July 17,
however, the TBI's initial capital will come from
coalition-administered funds, and its CPA-appointed president
authorised to enter a short-term contract with an operating consortium
of international banks.
Contractors are also beginning to question the CPA's internal
financial operation. They complain that payments for services are made
late--and in cash, even when the amounts are in the millions of
dollars. "They don't want to use US government accounts because they
don't want the appearance of commingling Iraqi and US funds," says one
contractor. "They told me two months ago they would have the system
fixed, but I am still getting payments in currency." In the meantime,
the funds allocated to infrastructure rehabilitation barely scratch
the surface of accumulated needs.
For example, one US engineer says: "We need between $5bn and $6bn to
rebuild the electricity system. Bechtel has been allocated about $200m
to do the job. Even that is not being used effectively yet."
Mr Bremer himself has suggested that the total capital requirements
for the electricity system might be as much as $15bn.
Mohsen Hassan, the director-general of technical services for the
Electricity Commission, says: "Before the war we used about 4,500MW
throughout the country. The total demand is about 6,200MW. Right now
we are producing about 3,200MW. While there is supposed to be a budget
of $200m for repairs for the year, we have only been given $2m for all
the materials and labour we will use from July through the middle of
September. "We have to go to Bechtel for all our imported parts but
Bechtel is moving in slow motion. We have received no parts yet, just
some chemicals."
"What they will tell you privately," says a dissident CPA adviser, "is
that they expect the international community to eventually come in and
provide the billions necessary for the electrical system.
"Assuming their diplomacy now works, that puts any start to a solution
off for months, and the implementation for years. The country can't
stand the delay."

 
.. duna occhiata a chi altri e' li in quel di Babilonia
e, segnatamente, al caldo benvenuto ricevuto dai Polacchi, da
 
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=polish+iraq+mortar
  ho pescato, tanto per cambiare, questa 
 
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?BRD=1078&dept_id=151021&newsid=10064766&PAG=461&rfi=9
  Indiana Gazzette, in fondo la rete e' divertente per questo, stile 
  abbastanza asciutto (adesso che vedo e' AP) che riporta.... 
  Postwar Iraq Toll Exceeds Combat Deaths 
  By ANDREW ENGLAND, Associated Press Writer 
   [..] 
  In Iraq's second holiest Shiite city, Karbala, Marine Lt. Col.
Matthew
 Lopez handed over command to a Bulgarian officer whose 250-strong
force
will begin patrolling the region. The Bulgarian soldiers are part of a
larger 9,500-strong international force led by Poland that will work
to
secure the zone in south-central Iraq that has been under the control 
of the U.S. Marines.
  A formal hand-over to a Polish commander for the entire zone will
take
place Sept. 3. However, Polish forces have already
come under attack. Several mortar shells were fired at a Polish base 
Karbala Monday night, missing their target and causing no damage or 
injuries, Defense Minister Jerzy Szmajdzinski said in Warsaw. 
Polish media reported five to seven shells  were fired at the
logistics base.
"Those were warning shots indicating that there are still people ready
to fight for Saddam Hussein's ideas," Szmajdzinski
told reporters. "This is another signal for us that we have to be 
cautious, strengthen our surveillance and keep on guard, and
that we can expect such attacks during nighttime."
  [..] 
 
... bene come certa gente non capisce una mazza, come dimostra il
ministro
della difesa Polacco che ha mandato cola'  i suoi armigeri per far
piacere all'Impero. Infatti se = gli Armigeri vengono accolti con un
mortaio non
e' affatto detto 
che sia un Babilonese seguace di Saddam, potrebbe essere semplicemente
un patriota babilonese che 
lotta contro l'occupante. Certo che con un fesso cosi' a capo della
Difesa
i Polacchi li vedo maluccio  gli attacchi di mortaio se li aspetta di 
notte - direi che devono guardarsi piu' delle "improvised explosive
device"
che continuano a stirar legionari - la bomba notturna serve
semplicemente
a tener sotto stress gli armigeri...
ma insomma, certo che la Babilonia sta diventano un interessante 
palcoscenico questo pezzo e' anche da conservare: 
 
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/EH26Ak03.html
 
  The US left picking up the pieces 
  By David Isenberg  
  [..] 
  Operationally, it indicated that US forces and UN operations are not
well coordinated. The blame game about who was
  responsible for the UN compound at the Canal Hotel is telling.
  On August 19, Fred Eckhard, a UN spokesman, said, "We are entirely
in their hands. The security of everyone in Iraq -
  Iraqis, the non-governmental humanitarian workers, the UN relief
workers - everyone is dependent on the coalition for their
  security in Iraq."
  That same day, Richard Boucher, US State Department spokesman, said,
"Security in Baghdad has a lot of elements. It has
  the US military element, the coalition forces elements, it has an
Iraqi police element, because Iraqi police are back and
  working in Baghdad, and individual organizations like the United
Nations also provide for some of their own security."
  [..] 
  Dilettanti allo sbaraglio, beh insomma, i Danesi comunque hanno
bruciato
sul tempo gli altri vassalli  segnando la prima perdita di altro
armigero
che non fosse dell'Imperiale o del suo satellite, secondo  quanto
riportato
nel raggiungere questo primato il contingente danese si e' avvalso
della
opera  di un gruppo di locali ladri di cavi elettrici. Buon per i
Danesi
che erano dei ladri, pensa te se invece  incontravano un gruppo di
locali
che avessero come scopo specifico la caccia all'occupante. 
 
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=iraq+danish+killed
 
http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/030818/2003081822.html
 
  Security continued to deteriorate in Iraq, First Danish killed, Abu
Gharib prison massacre
  Iraq-USA, Military, 8/18/2003 
  [..] 
  Meanwhile, a British military spokesman said that two Iraqis and one
Danish soldier were killed by bullets to the south of
  al-Basra during clashes between the occupation forces and thieves
trying to steal electricity cables. The spokesman added
  "it is the first Danish soldier to be killed" in the war on Iraq. He
added that the two killed Iraqis are two of 8 thieves, 6 of
  them were arrested.
  [..] 
  curiosando nelle news cosi' pescate (devo dire che google e' davvero
IL motore di ricerca)  adesso che vedo pare che i legionari
dell'Impero
siano cosi' felici di stare laggiu' che si sparano 
da soli per risparmiare lo sforzo ai Babilonesi che da questo 
pezzo pare che i sucidi siano piu' d'uno e pare anche che...
 
http://www.nynewsday.com/news/nationworld/iraq/ny-woraid0826,0,1241944.story?coll=nyc-topnews-short-navigation
  [..] 
  Of the 140 U.S. deaths since May 1, 65 have been combat-related and
75 have been the result of what the military refers to
  as "nonhostile incidents," according to the Pentagon. U.S. soldiers
have died in training accidents, vehicle crashes and of
  self-inflicted gunshot wounds.
  For example, on Saturday, Pfc. Vorn J. Mack, 19, of Orangeburg,
S.C., jumped into the Euphrates River for a swim near
  the Hadithah Dam, west of a city named Ar Ramadi. His body was found
the next day down-river. Although an apparent
  drowning, the incident remains under investigation.
  [..] 
...siano ben addestrati 'sti legionari, come si vede qui sotto... 
  [..] 
  Two days earlier, Pfc. Michael S. Adams, 20, of Spartanburg, S.C.,
died in Baghdad in a fire that started when a bullet he
  fired in an indoor range ricocheted and ignited the blaze. 
  Last but not least vorrei attirare l'attenzione sulla seguente nota
aggiunta nel ben noto:
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3019552.stm
 
  Last Updated: Tuesday, 26 August, 2003, 12:01 GMT 13:01 UK 
  non so se qualcuno che ha conservato la copia html delle vecchie
puo' confermare
  ma io direi che questo disclaimer e' proprio nuovo.... 
  [..] 
  The following entries are based on day-to-day Central Command news
releases and do not cover war-related
  casualties outside Iraq or the possible deaths of soldiers
succumbing to their wounds at a later stage.
  [..] 
  Enron ha fatto scuola.. gli artifici contabili per ammorbidire
risultati scomodi, un beacon di democrazia
  e trasparenza e' l'Impero. 
  Bye

 > >

...
Il sottoramo sulle perdite imperiali dovrebbe essere accessibile da 
qui:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=%20&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_umsgid=%3C6196c429.030...@posting.google.com%3E&lr=&hl=en
Arriva Settembre ed e' tempo di bilanci, ieri era ricomparso 
sul sito CNN l'interactive con il grafico a barre sulle 
perdite imperiali, ad oggi mostrava questo, 
US MILITARY FATALITIES IN THE WAR IN IRAQ 
che mi era venuto il dubbio che la tabella comprendesse anche
le perdite degli armigeri mandati ai vassalli, invece no sono
proprio le sole perdite imperiali.
As of August 27, there have been 281 US troops killed in 
the war in  Iraq since the conflict started in March. 
Hostile acts have accounted for 180 of the deaths, while 101 
are attributed to non-hostile causes. 
Ma come mostra  
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
c'e' da considerare anche il 29 August: 
A soldier (Fourth Infantry Brigade) is killed in a grenade attack in
Baghdad.
quindi riassumo completamente aggiungendo 1 al dato CNN
MARCH- Total 65 - Hostile deaths: 57 Non Hostile deaths: 08 
Note: from March 20 
APRIL- Total 73 - Hostile deaths: 58 Non Hostile deaths: 15 
MAY--- Total 37 - Hostile deaths: 07 Non Hostile deaths: 30 
Note: 1 Maggio nota dichiarazione dell'Imperatore sul ponte della 
portaerei
JUNE-- Total 28 - Hostile deaths: 17 Non Hostile deaths: 11 
JULY-- Total 46 - Hostile deaths: 27 Non Hostile deaths: 19 
AUGUST Total 33 - Hostile deaths: 19 Non Hostile deaths: 15
Note: Giro di boa, sono stati stirati piu' legionari da quando
l'Imperatore ha
dichiarato finite le 'major operations' che durante le 'major
operations' stesse
       [..] 
Il sito della CNN riportava anche questo 
Tuesday, September 2, 2003 Posted: 1121 GMT ( 7:21 PM HKT) 
A total 286 U.S. troops have died in Iraq, 147 of them since President
Bush declared  major combat over on May 1. Of the 147, 67 have died in
hostile action and 80 lost their lives to non-hostile causes.
There is no reliable source for Iraqi civilian or combatant casualty
figures. The Associated Press reported an estimated 3,240 civilian
Iraqi deaths between March 20 and April 20, but the AP said the figure
was based on records of only half of Iraq's hospitals, and the actual
number was thought to be significantly higher.
c'e' da ricordare che manca un reliable source anche per le casualty 
figures imperiali se si considera  che non vi sono numeri ufficiali
sui feriti
a parte il famoso articolo sul guardian che riportava la cifra di 840
per una media di 6 al giorno. 
L'Impero e' davvero un beacon di democrazia e trasparenza.
Ho una mappa interessante
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101030901/map.html
 
anzi due 
http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/maps/world/fullpage.troop.deployments/world.index.html
Comunque ritengo che saranno ben contenti i legionari degli
sviluppi "borsistici" dovuti alla conquista della nuova provincia 
 
http://www.gulf-news.com/Articles/Opinion.asp?ArticleID=96530
 
01-09-2003 
Dr. James J. Zogby: Contradictions in the American way of life
Two headlines, appearing next to each other on the front page of the
August 28 edition of the Washington Post prompted me to write this
article. In just 11 words they spoke volumes about the contradictions
that define the politics of my country and the challenges we are
facing as a nation.
The first headline read: "D.C. Guardsman Killed in Iraq", and was
followed by the sub-headline: "For Father, Pride and Grief". It told
the story of a young Washingtonian, Darryl Dent, who was killed in
action in Iraq last week. Darryl was 21.
I was especially moved by this death because Darryl's father, Vernon,
was a friend of mine. For many years he worked as the doorman in my
downtown Washington office building. Though his life had been filled
with hardship, Vernon could be witty and wise. Like all proud fathers,
he had high hopes for his son.
In a city where too many young African American males are victims of a
poor educational system, chronic unemployment and a culture of
violence, success is a blessing. 
[..] 
After graduation from high school, Darryl worked as a security guard
and joined the National Guard in hopes of earning enough money to
attend medical school.
When duty called, Darryl went to fulfil his assignment in Iraq. From
all accounts he was a good soldier and a young man with a bright
future.
He was proud of his service to his country and his family and his
community was proud of him. The war ended Darryl's life. And for
Vernon and all who knew him, Darryl will forever be only a memory.
[..] 
Each of these young men and women fought in the service of their
countries and did so selflessly. Which brings me to the story that
appeared right next to the tragic account of the death of Darryl Dent.
This headline read: "Halliburton's Deals Greater than Thought". This
story reports on how recently revealed documents establish that
Halliburton, the company recently headed by U.S. Vice President
Richard Cheney, will earn far more than was previously known as a
result of almost $2 billion in Iraq war related contracts it has
secured from the U.S. government.
According to the documents, Halliburton and a few other major U.S.
corporations have been the recipients of hundreds of millions of
dollars in no-bid contracts - far more than was previously reported.
In fact, according to the story, "as much as one-third of the monthly
$3.9 billion cost of keeping U.S. troops in Iraq is going to
independent contractors" like Halliburton.
[..] 
It simply cannot be right that Darryl Dent died in the service of his
country leaving a hole in the heart of his family, while Halliburton
share prices increased by 50 per cent and the company reported tens of
millions of dollars in profits during the past three months - all from
the war.
[..] 
The writer, president of the Arab American Institute and a Democrat
political lobbyist, hosts the weekly radio and television programme "A
Capital View" on the Arab Network of America, which is also aired live
in the Middle East on MBC. He also writes a weekly column that appears
in Gulf News.
Bye
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Preso dal conteggio perdite degli Imperiali e dalla affascinante
saga della telefonia mobile in Iraq (a proposito ieri c'era sul FT
la descrizione della causa che la AT&T sta muovendo alla MCI, che
merita,
visti i contratti che la MCI vince con il governo Imperiale, val la
pena analizzare
la corporate culture della MCI) ho divagato dal soggetto originale del
thread.
Ovvero la grana.
A prescindere dal legionario che occasionalmente perde un arto in quel
di
Babilonia, quandanche non perda la stessa vita, chi ci guadagna?
Beh....
questa notizia circa il "chi e quanto paga", mostra che per ora un po'
incerto il quanto,
ovvero il totale, mentre il chi e'  per ora poprio l'"american
taxpayer" .
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3196833.stm
 
Last Updated: Monday, 1 September, 2003, 01:08 GMT 02:08 UK  
Bush under fire over Iraq 
  
President George W Bush is coming under increasing pressure from his
own Republican Party to disclose how much financing will be required
to cover the costs of occupying and reconstructing Iraq.
[..] 
The Bush administration, which is already spending $4bn a month of US
taxpayers' money on the military costs in Iraq alone, looks to be
gearing up for a big international appeal for contributions towards
the cost of rebuilding Iraq.
Quindi la notizia di chi paga e quanto paga va ben accostata con chi
ci guadagna,
cosa  abbastanza certa visto che sono  bilanci e dichiarazioni
certificati per la borsa..
vedasi Handelsblatt che dice che l'Impero cerca l'aiuto da Bechtel e
Halliburton
in Babilonia (in tedesco: US-Regierung sucht die Hilfe von Bechtel und
Halliburton im Irak),
too bad che il sottotitolo e' questo "Konkurrenten vermuten
Unregelmaessigkeiten bei
der Auftragsvergabe", detto in chiaro i concorrenti delle due
menzionate Bechtel e Halliburton
subdorano fregature nella distribuzione dei contratti. Ma va?
L'Impero del Bene, il beacon della democrazia e la land dei free
(ultimamente not-so-free)
invischiato in politiche clientelari di distribuzioni contratti? Ma te
guarda.
Direi che con opportune googlate potete ripescare il tutto in lingua a
scelta, continua
l'Handelsblatt che secondo il Washington Post la Halliburton, quella
di Cheney,
si e' pappata contratti per 1,700 milioni di dollari (un milardo e
settecento milioni).
La guerra ha indubbiamente salvato i conti della Halliburton che e'
passata da perdite
sull'anno passato per 498 mio USD ad un profitto sul quartale di 26
mio di USD.
Si parla anche di questo qui:
http://www.gulf-news.com/Articles/Opinion.asp?ArticleID=96530
 
01-09-2003 
Dr. James J. Zogby: Contradictions in the American way of life
[..]
This headline [Nota; del WP] read: "Halliburton's Deals Greater than
Thought". This story reports on how recently revealed documents
establish that Halliburton, the company recently headed by U.S. Vice
President Richard Cheney, will earn far more than was previously known
as a result of almost $2 billion in Iraq war related contracts it has
secured from the U.S. government.
According to the documents, Halliburton and a few other major U.S.
corporations have been the recipients of hundreds of millions of
dollars in no-bid contracts - far more than was previously reported.
In fact, according to the story, "as much as one-third of the monthly
$3.9 billion cost of keeping U.S. troops in Iraq is going to
independent contractors" like Halliburton.
[..] 
It simply cannot be right that Darryl Dent died in the service of his
country leaving a hole in the heart of his family, while Halliburton
share prices increased by 50 per cent and the company reported tens of
millions of dollars in profits during the past three months - all from
the war.
magari volete leggervi anche questo per aver un quadro completo  prima
di partire con
le proprie ricerche su google
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/rebuilding_iraq/index.asp
 
Rebuilding Iraq -- The Contractors 
[..] 
The six companies -- Bechtel Group Inc., Fluor Corp., Halliburton Co.
subsidiary Kellogg, Brown & Root, Louis Berger Group Inc., Parsons
Corp. and Washington Group International Inc. -- contributed a
combined $3.6 million in individual, PAC and soft money donations
between 1999 and 2002, the Center reported on its news site,
CapitalEye.org. Sixty-six percent of that total went to Republicans.
[..] 
comunque perche' essere pessimisti? 
la dova va l'Impero sono tutti piu' felici e contenti, come si evince
dalle notizie
che arrivano da una altra provincia imperiale in Asia
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3196209.stm
 
Last Updated: Sunday, 31 August, 2003, 16:16 GMT 17:16 UK  
US soldiers die in Afghan clash 
US troops have been hunting down Taleban fighters  
Two American soldiers have been killed in south-east Afghanistan in a
clash with
guerrilla fighters, the US military says.  
in ogni caso il legionario occupante una delle nuove provincie
imperiali, mentre cerca di evitare i colpi  a lui diretti (non sempre
con successo,
vedi sopra) puo'  certamente contare sui servizi del suo proprio
subcontractor che gli deve
mandare i rifiornimenti bahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha 
http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/wood080103.html
 
Some of Army's Civilian Contractors Are No-Shows in Iraq 
BY DAVID WOOD 
c.2003 Newhouse News Service 
More Stories by David Wood 
WASHINGTON -- U.S. troops in Iraq suffered through months of
unnecessarily poor living conditions because some civilian contractors
hired by the Army for logistics support failed to show up, Army
officers said.
 Months after American combat troops settled into occupation duty,
they were camped out in primitive, dust-blown shelters without windows
or air conditioning. The Army has invested heavily in modular
barracks, showers, bathroom facilities and field kitchens, but troops
in Iraq were using ramshackle plywood latrines and living without
fresh food or regular access to showers and telephones.
Even mail delivery -- also managed by civilian contractors -- fell
weeks behind.
Though conditions have improved, the problems raise new concerns about
the Pentagon's growing global reliance on defense contractors for
everything from laundry service to combat training and aircraft
maintenance. Civilians help operate Navy Aegis cruisers and Global
Hawk, the high-tech robot spy plane.
par di leggere i acconti della seconda guerra... 
[..] 
As a result, soldiers lived in the mud, then the heat and dust. Back
home, a group of mothers organized a drive to buy and ship air
conditioners to their sons. One Army captain asked a reporter to send
a box of nails and screws to repair his living quarters and latrines.
[..] 
La ben nota Cassa del Mezzogiorno puo' dare qualcosa in termini di
organizzazione
[..] 
Thanks to overlapping contracts and multiple contracting offices,
nobody in the Pentagon seems to know precisely how many contractors
are responsible for which jobs -- or how much it all costs.
[..] 
Bye
a proposito, pare che l'M1 si possa stirare 
http://www.phoenix158.org/iraq/Documented%20Coalition%20Losses.cfm
 
US Army 
- 1 M-1A1 Abrams by Hellfire from USMC AH-1W near Basrah; recovered;
- 3 M-1A1 Abrams 3-7th Cav by Iraqi RPG-7 shots from the rear near
Karbala; fate unknown;
- 1 M-1A1, probably 3-7th Cav, US Army; captured almost intact; date
and place unknown (video released by Iraqi TV after the same battle
near Karbala in which 3-7th Cav lost three M-1A1s, and together with
the video of the M-9 captured intact);
- 2 M-1A1s of 3rd BCT/3rd ID (Mech) on 3 April; some 10km south of
Baghdad; fate of crews unknown;
- 1 M-1A1 "Cojone EH", 2nd BCT/3rd ID (Mech), on 6 April, during the
raid into Baghdad downtown; set afire after RPG-7-damage to a fuel
cell; wrecked by Coalition air strike; wreck recovered;
- 1 M-113A-3 (fitter's vehicle) of 3rd ID (Mech), on 3 April; fate of
crew unknown;
- 1 M-109A6 Paladin by ammo explosion; burned out;
- 1 M-9 (captured together with three M-1A1s of the 3-7th Cav);
- there are claims for up to five M-2 and M-3 Bradleys being lost
during the fighing so far, but none were confirmed by photographic
evidence.
[..] 
All the losses of M-1 MBTs initially occurred to RPG-7/16 hits into
the engine compartment, open turret hatches, or fuel cells: in most
cases, tanks were abandoned and left to burn out; in one case a tank
was set afire and then hit by Coallition air. The Iraqis probably
captured a total of seven M-1A1s - of which only three were intact -
so far, but it is questionable if they managed to tow any of them
away, due to the lack of time and heavy equipment needed for such
tasks: certainly, one of the burned-out M-1s initially captured by the
Iraqis ("Cojone EH") was later confirmed as recovered by US Army.
Dozens of other Coalition vehicles, especially M-1A1 Abrams MBTs, were
damaged by Iraqi fire, foremost by RPG-7s, but not disabled.
Non e' correlato a questo post ma era una url che volevo mettere nel
thread:
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/3191743.stm

 > > > SECONDO EPISODIO:
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Yawnnn...... 
-Stefano

 the cost of rebuilding Iraq.
la sezione business della BBC mette un po' piu' in chiaro le cose
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3089572.stm
Last Updated: Monday, 8 September, 2003, 11:28 GMT 12:28 UK  
Bush fights war on two fronts
President Bush's call for  $87bn (£55bn) for the
reconstruction of Iraq could signal problems ahead for his
plans for economy recovery at home. 
Ovvero richiesta di 87,000 milioni di dollari
ed il paragrafo successivo dice che:
[..]
The fact that he is asking Congress for more funds next year
than had been requested for the actual war itself is a clear
indication that the high numbers of US forces stationed in Iraq
are now projected to remain there indefinitely. 
la guerra in se' (ma fino a quando, forse fino a maggio? questo
non e' chiaro) gli e' costata meno di questa cifra (87,000 mio USD)
occorre anche ricordare che la finanza pubblica dell'Impero e' 
gestita dall'equivalente di un Cirino Pomicino nano-machine enhanced
(citazione forse difficile da capire, vedasi red faction II )
Infatto l'Impero ha un debito di  480,000 mio di USD..
And the fresh request will substantially increase the record
budget deficit of $480bn that has already been forecast for 2003/04. 
..o meglio, lo aveva che queste sono le previsioni senza il costo
della conquista della nuova provincia. L'articolo prosegue dicendo
che molto probabilmente questa richiesta passera' che nessuno vuol
far la parte di quello che stacca i rifornimenti alle truppe
ancora ingaggiate dall'avversario - certo che queste avventure
all'impero costano 
[..]
The administration clearly under-estimated the cost of
continuing US military operations in Iraq, which are now
running at nearly $4bn per month - not much less than during
the "combat phase". 
[..]
4,000 mio USD per mese > 5,5 mio USD all'ora , costosette le
campagna dell'Imperatore Bush il Giovane.
la pagina citata da una piu' dettagliata ripartizione delle spese,
e nota che l'Imperatore deve andare a battere cassa agli stessi
paesi che ha trattato a pesci in faccia all'inizio della campagna.
[..]
In its Budget request, only  $20bn is allocated to
reconstruction out of the $50bn to $75bn needed next year. 
The Bush administration has been trying for months to
persuade other countries to  become major donors - as they
were in Afghanistan - ahead of a conference in Madrid in October. 
[..]
il petrolio iracheno visto che l'oleodotto e' stato sabotato
non da gli sperati [..] has been slow to come on stream and has been
subject to sabotage, and is unlikely to have revenue of more
than $10bn-$15bn this year - and much of that will go to the
cost of civil administration.
passo ora ad una cosa che aveva anche scritto Namib in questo thread ovvero,
In the short-term, however, growing cost of the war has
provided a boost to the economy. 
The US economy grew in April to June by its strongest rate in
six months, 2.4%, as the huge increase in defence spending
boosted growth. 
However, the projected growth rate next year will not be
enough to reduce the unemployment rate, which is more than
6% - enough to hurt Mr Bush politically. 
Dunque, fa bene all'economia la guerra? Dipende da come si misura.
vi e' un interessante articolo su FT del 28 Aug 2003
"small business pay a heavy price for Washington's war on terror"
 per small biz si intende aziende composte da poche persone, ovvero
pochi soci. che sono severamente colpite nella loro operativita'
dal fatto che un dipendente o un socio se ne debba partire perche'
richiamato dalla National Guard per andare in Babilonia (FT dice
che sono 292,000 tra national Guard e riserve richiamati in servizio
dal 11 Sept 2001, piu' di 190,000 "are still serving").
Associazioni di settore stimano che il 70% dei riservisti arrivano
da "small medium size companies, 'which have less ability to take up
the slack [dovuto alla assenza] than larger company".
Infatti da August 2001 "10,700 business have applied for the Military 
Reservist Economic Injury Disasters Loans from the Small 
Business Administration".
Attenzione ora al dettaglio, mancando personale chiave e non volendo
chiudere molte aziende sono dunque forzate ad assumere quindi
"the departure of so many reservist may have also had the effect of
artificially boosting employment figures." La cifra misurata e' 122,000
lavori temporanei creati da Aprile ad oggi, e' oggetto di dibattito
quanta percentuale sia dovuta alla crescita artificiale.
Last but not least, l'Impero tratta bene i suoi legionari come gli
esempi riportati mostrano "Allen Johnson, who runs an excavation
business in Pennsylvania (..) was given THREE HOURS' NOTICE TO REPORT
FOR ACTIVE DUTY (..)" - certo, visto che le elezioni si avvicinano 
quel babbeo di Rumsfeld si sveglia e dice che il trattamento
che il suo dipartimento a riservato alle pezze da piedi che 
spedisce alla conquista della Babilonia ' "not fair".
Bottom Line economica, la guerra fa bene alla economia a seconda
di come si misura la  economia stessa.
Bye

Il FT del 18 Marzo 2003 conteneva una messa di articoli che, a
posteriori,
sono ancora piu' interessanti da leggersi ora:
AIRBORNE FEROCITY IS THE BEST STRATEGY (john Warden - page 13)
Although the start of the war agaist Iraq will come as no surprise,
its
ferocity will be a shck to many. The campaing will use unprecedent
force.
This is the best strategy, offering the highest probability of success
at lowest
cost in terms of lives and property.
Buono il buana nei confronti dei futuri sudditi, nevvero? chissa' cosa
scrive adesso
che gli Imperiali sono impantanati in quel di Babilonia.. l'autore e'
comunque uno
spin doctor per il campo che sostiene che con l'arma aerea si risolve
tutto.
Da accostare alle lista perdita imperiali solitamente abbastanza
aggiornata
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
123 legionari stirati dalla famosa dichiarazione dell'Imperatore
Bush il Giovane al 1 Maggio (totale stirati al 3 Settembre compreso) 
L'articolo sotto si intitola SADDAM WILL HAVE TO BE BEATEN ON THE
GROUND
(Michael O'hanlon), fatto che non e' avvenuto e che a posteriori
mostra bene
che nessuno nei circoli militari occidentali si era immaginato il
pantano.
A fare da spalla a questi due articoli AMERICA'S WELCOME MAY BE BRIEF
IN
BAGHDAD (Rashid Khalidi) "The occupation of Iraq could
be followed by a rapid handover to a democratic, independent Iraqi
government and the speedy withdrawal of American Troops. Do not bet on
it."
Questo gia' la aveva vista meglio e fa una devo dire breve e coincisa
analisi
del pensiero neoconservativo dicendo tra 'altro "the neo-conservatives
are largerly ignorant of, or ideologically blinded to, the realities
of the region"
l'articolo chiude con "if Iraq instead is ruled by military
occupation,
behind a facade provided by exiles [..] who roll into Baghdad on the
back
of the American tanks, history may repeat itself." Dove per Storia
intende
un periodo di rivolte.
Il pezzo forte di questo FT e' comunque l'articolo a pagina intero
cosi' intitolato
A DIVIDED COUNTRY: WILL IRAQ DESCEND INTO CHAOS AND ETHNIC HATRED 
AFTER SADDAM'S DEMISE? (ricordo che l'articolo e' del 18 March 2003)
American and British officials argue that a yearning for normality
will be more
powerful than the desire for revenge and blodletting among the tribal
and religious rivals.
E come no, direi di accostarci questo 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3095512.stm
Last Updated: Wednesday, 10 September, 2003, 10:11 GMT 11:11 UK  
Bomb hits Iraqi Kurd region
A car bomb has exploded  outside an office used by US
troops near the Iraqi Kurdish  city of Irbil. 
One Iraqi was killed and 47 people were injured, including
 children in nearby houses and  six US Defence Department staff
[..]
In a separate incident, one US soldier was killed and another
wounded in an ambush north-east of Baghdad on Tuesday. 
Occorre mettersi d'accordo sul significato di " yearning for
normality"
visto che a Settembre la normalita' per i babilonesi consiste nel
farsi uccidere da
un legionario imperiale "trigger happy" - un paio di Ayatollah morti
completano
il quadro - ben preparati questi officials.. - vedi anche a pagina 12
l'articolo HOW TO WIN THE PEACE IN IRAQ sottotitolo "Damage Limitation
must be the order in the day" (18 March 2003) e come no.... sempre 
dal precedente BBC  (10 September, 2003)
A problem for US military commanders is that providing higher
levels of protection for their men frustrates their other
objectives in the country, says our correspondent. 
Many Iraqis now complain that US forces are concentrating
more on protecting themselves than the lives and property of Iraqi
civilians.
Last but not least i problemi di Tony "poodle" Blair (anche noto come
Bliar)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3092122.stm
Labour under fire over Iraq policing
The government has come under fire for the
disintegrating security situation in Iraq after it
 announced 1,200 more British troops are to be sent to the region. 
"disintegrating", miga bae, effettivamente se avete notato
ultimamente il Tony "poodle" Blair non va piu' in giro per il mondo
a caccia di armi di *distrazione* di massa, o a lottare contro la fame
o comunque a salvare single-handed il mondo intero. Sic transit.
Bye

 


 must be the order in the day" (18 March 2003) e come no.... sempre 
 
ecco le direi mitiche headlines di oggi:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/09/12/international1320EDT0606.DTL
U.S. forces kill 9 in friendly fire incident in Fallujah 
U.S. forces killed eight Iraqi police and a Jordanian security guard,
and
wounded nine other people before dawn Friday in the deadliest friendly
fire incident since the end of major fighting. The U.S. military said
its
troops had come under attack. 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3102920.stm
Last Updated: Friday, 12 September, 2003, 13:40 GMT 14:40 UK  
US troops 'kill Iraqi police'
About 10 Iraqi security  personnel have mistakenly
been killed by US soldiers outside the town of Falluja,
west of Baghdad, according to Iraqi sources. 
Naturalmente vi sara' poi la solita inchiesta in cui gli imperiali
si assolvono da soli e' tuttavia da rimarcare che l'ordine in
babilonia
cosi' non lo riportano di certo - e' anche divertente notare
la tempistica, adesso che l'Impero annaspa in cerca di aiuto e di
truppe
si presenta alla riunione di Sabato con un poderoso biglietto da
visita.
secondo la BBC precedentemente citata:
 
Police and witnesses said US forces opened fire on Iraqi
police chasing a car carrying  gunmen as it passed through an
American checkpoint near a  hospital.  
If confirmed, it would be the second friendly-fire case in the
flashpoint town in the past two days. 
Elsewhere, two American soldiers were killed and seven
wounded in a pre-dawn raid in the nearby town of Ramadi. 
Direi che e' quasi certo che gli Imperiali rifiuteranno di mollare 
il comando quindi la spirale continua.
Letture per il weeekend:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,977470,00.html
America's imperial delusion 
The US drive for world domination has no historical precedent 
Eric Hobsbawm
Saturday June 14, 2003
[..]
On the other hand the US, like revolutionary France and revolutionary
Russia,
is a great power based on a universalist revolution - and therefore on
the
belief that the rest of the world should follow its example, or even
that
it should help liberate the rest of the world. Few things are more
dangerous
than empires pursuing their own interest in the belief that they are
doing
humanity a favour.
[..]
Of course the Americans theoretically do not aim to occupy the whole
world.
What they aim to do is to go to war, leave friendly governments behind
them
and go home again. This will not work. In military terms, the Iraq war
was
 successful. But it neglected the necessities of running the country, 
maintaining it, as the British did in the classic colonial model of
India.
The belief that the US does not need genuine allies among other states
or
genuine popular support in the countries its military can now conquer 
(but not effectively administer) is fantasy.  
 
[..]
There are internal reasons, the most immediate being that most
Americans are
not interested in running the world. What they are interested in is
what
happens to them in the US. The weakness of the US economy is such that
at
some stage both the US government and electors will decide that it is
much
more important to concentrate on the economy than to carry on with
foreign
 military adventures. Even by local business standards Bush does not
have an
adequate economic policy for the US. And Bush's existing international
policy
is not a particularly rational one for US imperial interests - and
certainly
not for the interests of US capitalism. Hence the divisions of opinion
within
the US government. 
Che accosterei ad una interessante pagina del FT della mia collezione:
pagina 11 del January 30, 2003 (ovvero allo Zenit dell'unilaterlismo
imperiale)
AMERICA MUST LEAD THE WORLD ECONOMY [JEFFREY GARTEN ] 
THE US SHOULD THEREFORE BRING TOGETHER THE G7 AND OTHER CRUCIAL 
NATIONS TO CHART A CO-ORDINATED COURSE FOR GLOBAL GROWTH [..]
MORE PEER PRESSURE HAS TO BE PUT ON EUROPE TO PURSUE PRO-GROWTH
MONETARY
AND FISCAL POLICIES AND TO LOOSEN OVERBEARING REGULATIONS.
MORE ARM-TWISTING SHOULD BE APPLIED TO JAPAN TO CLEAN UP ITS 
GROWTH-STRANGLING BANKING MESS.
In un momento di lucidita' questo pazzo scatentato comunque scrive
AND OTHER GOVERNMENT SHOULD PRESS WASHINGTON TO WORRY ABOUT
ITS MUSHROOMING TRADE DEFICIT, NOW AT 5 PER CENT OF GDP, AND THE
GAP BEWTEEN GOVERNMENT REVENUES AND SPEDING, ESTIMATED TO BE
WELL OVER $200BN THIS YEAR	.
Prima che arrivasse il conto della conquista della Babilonia,
anyway questo e' un dean della Yale School of Management e
"held foreign policy and economic posts in the Nixon, Ford,
Carter and Cliton Administration"
Articolo sotto (sempre January 30, 2003 ) 
BUSH MARCHES ONWARD IN SPLENDIND ISOLATION [WILLIAM WALLACE]
THE POPULAR PHRASE IN WASHINGTON IS THAT "IF WE LEAD, OTHERS
WILL FOLLOW" [..] THEY WILL LEAD A COALITION, IF IT WILL FOLLOW;
IF NOT, IT APPEARS, THEY WILL GO ON IN SPLENDID ISOLATION 
TO ATTEMPT TO LIBERATE THE ARAB WORLD FOR DEMOCRACY, WITH A ROADMAP
THAT NOBODY BUT THEY CAN READ 
Lord Wallace is professor [..] and a Liberl Democrat peer.
riguardo la democrazia accostare questo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3102920.stm
Correspondents say anti-US resistance has been strong in the
town since American troops killed 16 demonstrators there in April.
Bye
Letture varie:
http://www.kelebekler.com/occ/praxis02.htm
[..]
    'Dio mi ha detto di colpire al Qaida, e io li ho colpiti, poi mi
ha ordinato di colpire Saddam, e l'ho fatto, e adesso sono deciso a
risolvere il problema mediorientale'.[18]
[..]
[18] Bush avrebbe fatto queste affermazioni durante l'incontro di
Sharm al-Shaykh con le autorità palestinesi nell'estate del 2003. La
fonte è il quotidiano israeliano Ha'aretz (Arnon Regular, 'Road map is
a life saver for us,' PM Abbas tells Hamas').

si assolvono da soli
Se lo dici tu.... :)))
*LOL*
Per il resto, le stronzate anti-USA quale "impero che vuole governare il
mondo" si trovano su parecchi giornali, FT e gli altri citati in primis,
alquanto facilmente.
-Stefano

Un po' di tempo fa avevo parlato di una citazione perduta
che sta qui e che era
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=6196c429.0307191103.4618bc%40posting.google.com
FINANCIAL TIMES  April 28 2003
Optimistic bidder have overshot their estimates before: 
US companies clamoured for business in Kuwait following the first Gulf
War,
[..]
A few years later, REBULDING COSTS TOTALLED
ABOUT $25BN AND US COMPANIES TOOK LESS THAN HALF THAT AMOUNT.
lo stesso concetto era espresso nell'articolo 
FT March 21 2003 BIG LOBBYING STARTS FOR A SLICE OF THE $100BN PIE
[Joshua Chaffin] [..] At the time rebulding [del Kuwait] were
estimated
at as much as $100bn. The countries leaders promised to giuve US
companies
the first consideration [..] a few years later, total projects
amounted
to just $25bn and the US take was less than half of that. Most went 
to companies already with ties in the region.
This time round, the initial contracts are expected to go to US
companies because much of the rebulding will be paid by the US 
government. [..] "There are not a lot of people pushing to get
involved in Afghnistan or Bosnia" another lobbyst said "there is no
long-term
pay off there. People are much more exicited about Iraq" [..]
The Center for Responsive politics said the five companies
on the shortlis for the initial rebulding contract donated $2.8m
during
the last two election cycles. Vice-President Dick
Cheney is a former head of Halliburton, and there are links between
the defence
establishment and the private sector.
Circa le donazioni consiglio la lettura del link
Rebuilding Iraq - what contractors gave politicians
preso dal sempre interessante 
www.g2mil.com
 di Settembre
http://www.g2mil.com/Sept2003.htm
Altra cosa che avevo postato  era la tabellina del debito Iracheno
che direi va letta dopo questo FT JUNE 12 2003
PERLE URGES FORGIVVENESS OF IRAQI DEBT TO TEACH BAMK A LESSON
[James Harding] Richard Perle, the influential Pentagon adviser,
yesterday
called for the complete forgiveness of the Iraqi Nationaldebt, an act
which
would teach banks the risk of lending to "vicious dictatorship".
Vocing a widely held but largely private view of many within the 
Bush administration, Mr Perle also endorsed preferential treatment 
for the companies of the US, UK, Australia and Poland in the
competition for Iraq reconstruction contracts.
Attenzione che questa e' carina
"SOME COUNTRIES OPPOSED THE LIBERATION OF IRAQ. FRANCE OPPOSED
THE LIBERATION. GERMANY OPPOSED LIBERATION. SO DID RUSSIA,"
SAID MR. PERLE 'YOU COULD FORGIVE THE >>>IRAQIS<<< FOR NOT
RUSHING INTO BUSINESS CONTRACTS WITH COMPANIES FROM COUNTRIES
WHO, HAVE THEIR POLICIES PREVAILED,WOULD HAVE LEFT IRAQ IN THE
HANDS OF SADDDAM HUSSEIN" 
Cioe' Perle spiega *lui* cosa faranno gli Iracheni, sarebbe da
chiedergli
chi gli stira i legionari in quel di Babilonia o qaunto sono contenti
gli Iracheni di essere stati liberati con (stesso articolo quindi 12
June)
The AP has published its own conservative calculation [..]
the estimated is that at least 3,240 people died, including 1,896
people
in Bagdhad.
Considerato che i legionari trigger happy ne ammazzano giornalemente
di civili direi che la liberazione imperiale costa ai babilonesi
un tributo di sangue comparabile alle repressioni di Saddam Hussein
(se si contano i morti da embargo direi che forse l'Impero ne
ha accoppati di piu' del Saddam questa pagina 
http://www.fff.org/comment/com0302m.asp
ha diversi link in materia, scrollare verso il 1/3 inferiore, 
ci sono anche varie quote interessanti
Federal indifference to the plight of the Iraqi children was 
summarized in 1996 by the U.S. ambassador to the UN, Madeleine 
Albright, in a statement made to 60 Minutes that the
deaths of the Iraqi children had been "worth it," a statement that 
has never been condemned by any high U.S. officials. )
Comunque la tabellina del debito era qui:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&selm=6196c429.0306150155.35bd86e5%40posting.google.com
FINANCIAL TIMES del weekend 12/13 April
Washington wants big write-off of Iraqi debt
tutti gli importi in billions di USD
Saudi Arabia 25.0 / Non Kuwait UAE and Gulf 17.5 / Kuwait 12.5
Paris Club (other than France and Russia) 9.5
Russia 8.0 / France 8.0 / Commercial creditors (London club) 2.6
Bulgaria 1.7 / Poland, Czech Rep, Romania 1.6 /
Multilateral insititutions 1.1 / Yugoslavia 0.7 
Other trade claims 2.2 / Others and unaccounted for 26.1
Totale 116.5.
Bye
Letture Interessanti:
http://www.fff.org/issues/iraq.asp
http://www.fff.org/issues/terrorism.asp

 Saturday June 14, 2003
[..]
ci sono anche questi due che direi val la pena leggere
http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0304b.asp
An American Empire! If You Want It instead of Freedom, Part 1
by Richard M. Ebeling, April 2003 
http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0305b.asp
An American Empire! If You Want It instead of Freedom, Part 2
by Richard M. Ebeling, May 2003
Bye

ABOUT $25BN AND US COMPANIES TOOK LESS THAN HALF THAT AMOUNT.
E quindi si smentisce una delle tante affermazioni del Pirlissima(TM)
che gli USA distruggono per poi dare soldi alle proprie compagnie per la
ricostruzione senza lasciare nulla agli altri stati :))
*LOL*
-Stefano

chissa' che tonnate si prendera' oggi.
Faccelo sapere Pirlissima(TM)! :)
-Stefano

        [..] 
Oggi che posto (13 Settembre) la BBC e' aggiornata al 3 Sett.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
 
correttamente non e' piu' indicato che e' updated daily.
Se uno volesse fare un controllo in tempo reale questa stringa
da di solito assai buoni risultati
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&edition=us&q=american+casualties+Iraq
Comunque vorrei allargare il conteggio che ho trovato questo
http://famulus.msnbc.com/FamulusIntl/reuters09-09-234945.asp?reg=MIDEAST
che direi permette di scrivere
BRITISH "COMBACT"  < 1 maggio = 19
BRITISH "COMBACT"  > 1 maggio = 11
BRITISH "NOT COMBACT" < 1 mag.= 31
BRITISH "NOT COMBACT" > 1 mag.= 06
OTHERS "COMBACT"   < 1 maggio = 00
OTHERS "NOT COMBACT"  > 1 mag.= 01
NOTE: NON-COMBAT is defined as accidents, U.S. or British fire
killing or wounding their own troops, and other incidents unrelated to
fighting.
e la nota spiega perche' il Danese stirato e' non combact
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&edition=us&q=Danish+soldier+killed+Iraq
Danish soldier killed in Iraq
CNN International - 17 Aug 2003
BASRA, Iraq (Reuters) -- A Danish soldier and two Iraqis were killed
in southern
Iraq in a gun battle between troops and a group of looters stealing
power
[..]
che uno direbbe che e' proprio combact tuttavia visto che pare
che lo abbia stirato il friendly fire 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3157877.stm
A preliminary investigation indicated Pedersen may have been
killed by friendly fire, the spokesman told the Associated Press. 
questo modo di dare i dati lo trovo assolutamente ipocrita,
tanto vale dare solo i totali
BRITISH  < 1 maggio = 050
OTHERS   < 1 maggio = 000
IMPERIALI< 1 maggio = 138
BRITISH  > 1 maggio = 017
OTHERS   > 1 maggio = 001
IMPERIALI> 1 maggio = 144
cut & paste dal sito citato:
IRAQIS KILLED: 
MILITARY       2,320
NOTA: U.S. military estimates relating only to fighting in or near 
Baghdad. No other figures available.
CIVILIANS      Between 6,118 and 7,836
NOTA: - Figure compiled on Web site 
www.iraqbodycount.net
, run by
academics and peace activists, based on incidents reported by at least
two media sources. 
Soprattutto la cifra dei civili iracheni uccisi, massimamente da
legionari trigger happy oppure "by mistake" (in questo caso
specialmente
se poliziotti iracheni) da una buona stima di quanto possa essere 
vicina, o meglio, lontana, una Pax Imperiale in Babilonia.
Sempre parlando di contabilita' mortuaria, sto cercando di trovare
in rete dati attendibili su quello che per ora sospetto solo, ovvero
che la "liberazione" per mano degli imperiali sia costata ai
babilonesi
come una repressione per mano del Saddam - per adesso trovo solo
articoli
generici tipo (partendo da 
http://www.fff.org/comment/com0302m.asp
) :
http://www.iht.com/articles/81437.htm
Iraqis' suffering can be made worse 
 Barbara Stocking International Herald Tribune 
Friday, December 27, 2002 
Don't go to war
OXFORD, England Iraq is not only on the brink of war. It is teetering
on the edge of a humanitarian disaster. Child mortality rates have
rocketed since the United Nations imposed sanctions in 1990. Up to 16
million people - more than two-thirds of the population - already rely
on
a fragile system of food aid for their survival.
[..]
The writer is director of Oxfam. She contributed this comment to the
International Herald Tribune. 
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,411366,00.html
Letter from Iraq: The Children's Ward
Inside an Iraqi hospital, where the Gulf War's effects are still felt
By MEENAKSHI GANGULY/BAGHDAD 
[..]
more than lumps of meat. Those did not make it, but there are plenty
that
would survive if only
they had some medication. But these are poor people and cannot afford 
medicines. Cancer drugs,
for instance, fall under the dual use category and are listed under UN
sanctions. So, although
Bye
Letture Interessanti:
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_13-9-2003_pg3_5
http://www.fff.org/immigrationproject/message.asp

...
andando in giro per la rete ho trovato un sito interessante,
http://www.motherjones.com/news/dailymojo/2003/38/we_547_01a.html
che contiene puntatori a notizie assai interessanti tipo questa:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A51378-2003Sep9?language=printer
Feith-Based Initiative
ove Feith e' un tizio che, leggere per credere,
 
"...[W]e've come across a most  timely announcement from the
highly regarded international corporate and commercial law firm
of Zell, Goldberg & Co. The firm 'has  recently established a task force
dealing with issues and  opportunities relating to the
recently ended war with Iraq,' its Web site announced. 
With offices in Israel and Washington,
----------------^^^^^^
Maestri del Marketing, vedo. 
Certo che fessi simili e' difficile credere che siano veri.
the firm says it 'is assisting regional construction and logistics firms 
to collaborate with contractors from the United States and other 
coalition countries in implementing infrastructure and other reconstruction
 projects in Iraq.' Through its Washington, D.C., office,
ZGC is also assisting American companies in their relations with the 
United States government in connection with Iraqi reconstruction projects 
as prime contractors and consultants. 
Interested parties can reach the law firm through its Web site, at 
www.fandz.com
.
Fandz.com? Hmmm. Rings a bell. Oh, yes, that was the Web site of the 
Washington law firm of Feith & Zell, P.C., as in Douglas J. Feith... 
now undersecretary of defense for policy and head of
-- what else? -- reconstruction matters in Iraq
Molto interessante e' anche l'articolo citato sui cingoli del Bradley
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3335-2003Sep12.html
[..]The result is that Bradleys in Iraq need new tracks every 60 days, 
at $22,576 per vehicle. [..] 
The tracks this fiscal year will have cost $230 million, nearly triple t
he $78 million the Army spent on track repair and replacement in 2002.


-- what else? -- reconstruction matters in Iraq
Povero Pirlissima(TM)! :))
Ha scoperto l'acqua calda :)  Aiutiamolo un pochino a colmare la sua
crassa ignoranza :)
http://www.fandz.com/html/fandz.html
The FANDZ INTERNATIONAL LAW GROUP was established in 1999 with the
formation of Zell, Goldberg & Co. and its alliance with Feith & Zell,
P.C.
Following the reorganization of Feith & Zell, P.C., precipitated by the
appointment of our colleague Douglas J. Feith as Undersecretary of
Defense for Policy in the George W. Bush Administration in 2001, the
FANDZ INTERNATIONAL LAW GROUP now encompasses the strategic alliances
between Zell, Goldberg & Co. and its offices in Moscow (Moiseev &
Partners), Washington, D.C. (in cooperation with Shapiro, Sher & Guinot,
P.A) and in Seattle, Washington.
-Stefano

 Il sottoramo sulle perdite imperiali dovrebbe essere accessibile da  qui:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=%3C6196c429.030...@posting.google.com%3E&lr=&hl=en
 
La tabella di fine Agosto era questa, e devo dire incompleta che
riportava
solo i legionari stirati in quel di Babilonia, non riportava i feriti
e i caduti
di altre nazionalita' -  la volevo un po' arricchire. Ma la BBC non
aggiorna
da un bel pezzo la sua pagina Oggi che posto (17) e' aggiornata al 3
Sett.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
 
correttamente non e' piu' indicato che e' updated daily.
La CNN interactive che e' la fonte di questi numeri non la ho
trovata..
uso la lista presa da 
http://antiwar.com/ewens/list.html
ripartendo secondo l'uso del pentagono (che e' altro che la
ripartizione logica)
MARCH- Total 65 - Hostile deaths: 57 Non Hostile deaths: 08 
Note: from March 20 
APRIL- Total 73 - Hostile deaths: 58 Non Hostile deaths: 15 
MAY--- Total 37 - Hostile deaths: 07 Non Hostile deaths: 30  
Note: 1 Maggio nota dichiarazione dell'Imperatore sul ponte della 
portaerei
JUNE-- Total 28 - Hostile deaths: 17 Non Hostile deaths: 11 
JULY-- Total 46 - Hostile deaths: 27 Non Hostile deaths: 19 
AUGUST Total 33 - Hostile deaths: 19 Non Hostile deaths: 15
Note: Giro di boa, sono stati stirati piu' legionari da quando
l'Imperatore ha
dichiarato finite le 'major operations' che durante le 'major
operations' stesse
SEPTEMBER [up to 17th] Total 12 - Ostili 8(*) Non Ostili 4(*)
(*)sono poi curioso di vedere la ripartizione del pentagono, posso
capire un
"was changing the tire on a Heavy Expanded Mobility Tactical Truck
when
the tire exploded. Ybarra died of his injuries." come non ostile,
posso sorvolare
sulla misteriosa notazione "non-hostile gunshot incident." - tuttavia
se si
muore facendo l'artificiere ho delle difficolta' a classificarla "non
ostile".
Per controllo ho preso i totali da
http://www.antiwar.com/ewens/casualties.html
Facendo la somma dei miei totali si ottiene 294 mentre il sito lista
293,
quindi qui ci deve essere un typo da qualche parte, gli Hostile Deaths
risultano 193 contro i 190 del sito, ma questo e' spiegabile
vista la ripartizione "a-logica" delle morti, suppongo che il sito
segua
la classificazione ufficiale.
A proposito di "a-logica" vorrei aggiungere un  commenti su una
interessante
trasformazione Orwelliana dell'Inglese Imperiale.
"Casualty" vuol dire "person killed OR injured in a war or accident".
Cio' che l'Impero riporta ufficialmente sono solo i "killed" separati
nelle
due fantastiche categorie citate Hostile / Combact oppure Non Hostile
/ Not Combact.
Come se morti dovuti al caldo o allo stress  NON fossero correlabili
alla
conquista dela nuova provincia Babilonese.
Anche nel dare una spiegazione degli eventi l'Inglese imperiale si
arricchisce
di nuove sfumature con la creazione della "IED", ne prendo un esempio
di uso
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3107162.stm
Last Updated: Sunday, 14 September, 2003, 07:59 GMT 08:59 UK 
US soldier dies in Iraq attack
[..]
"At 0800 [0400 GMT] this  morning in Falluja, a vehicle
 convoy hit an IED [improvised  explosive device]... one soldier
 was killed," a military spokeswoman was quoted by Reuters news agency
as saying.
[..]
sara' stata anche improvvisata ma il morto lo ha fatto lo stesso, tra
l'altro
questi artifici propagandistici hanno anche un backfire che viene da
pensare
se i Babilonesi con un po' di pratica fanno migliori bombe il
Pentagono cosa dira',
morto per  IEDBLAP [improvised  explosive device but looking almost
professional] ?
Notare che  la IED dal costo, immagino, di poche centinaia di USD (e'
improvvisata)
gli distrugge un humvee agli imperiali cio' gli fa 250,000 USD di
danni (!!)
per il costo confrontarecon l'interessante articolo
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3335-2003Sep12.html
Wearing Out and Adding Up 
Army Costs Increase as Terrain Takes Toll on Equipment 
By Jonathan Weisman and Renae Merle
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, September 13, 2003; Page A01 
Torniamo alla mancanza dei feriti nelle statistiche della causalties
imperiali
e'  il Guardian sta seguendo la faccenda da vicino e gira la cifra di
1,500
di cui molti mutilati (vedasi in fondo al post per i dettagli) notare
anche che
il Guardian da una cifra di 6,000 evacuati (immagino per stress da
caldo,
malattie varie etc..) attenzione ora alla sopresa questo sito 
http://www.motherjones.com/news/dailymojo/2003/38/we_547_01a.html
riferisce di un articolo del Boston Globe under the headline, 'U.S.
Troop Strength in Iraq Down to Nearly 116,000, Military Says'.  che
dice che
"The number of American troops deployed in Iraq is nearly 116,000, a
spokesman
for the U.S.-led coalition said Wednesday. That is at least 10,000
less than previously
believed. As recently as last week, the number of U.S. soldiers in
Iraq was believed to
be between 125,000 and 130,000. The coalition spokesman, briefing
reporters on condition
of anonymity, did not explain the reduced figure, but his disclosure
comes as the U.N. Security
Council considers a U.S. draft resolution calling for a multinational
force to join the American-led coalition."
e' chiaramente possibile che sia stato ritirato del personale con
specializzazione non
utile in operazioni di controguerriglia, o che sia stato ritirato del
personale senza
rimpiazzarlo, ma il fatto che la cifra (at least 10,000) sia
confrontabile con
quella, per ora ufficiosa, degli evacuati (6,000) va secondo me
seguito  con attenzione.
A mettere una definitiva pietra sopra circa l'ottimismo imperiale dei
primi di Settembre
direi che e' questo:
http://www.canada.com/news/world/story.asp?id=955BFE54-1C67-45C3-92AE-EC7FF1166AD7
U.S. commander in Iraq says troops facing revenge attacks by ordinary
Iraqis
TAREK AL-ISSAWI
Canadian Press
Wednesday, September 17, 2003
BAGHDAD (AP) - The commander of the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq said in
an interview published
Wednesday that U.S. forces, already under pressure from a
guerrilla-style resistance, now face
revenge attacks from ordinary Iraqis angered by the occupation. 
North of Baghdad, there were at least three separate attacks on U.S.
forces with roadside
bombs in less than 90 minutes Wednesday morning. 
Witnesses said U.S. forces suffered casualties, but details were
unclear. The attacks hit U.S. Humvees about 20 kilometres north of
Baghdad near al-Taji.
(250,000 USD a Humvee nel caso ve lo siete scordato)
[..]
"We have seen that when we have an incident in the conduct of our
operations, when we killed an innocent civilian, (then) based on their
ethic, their values, their culture, they would seek revenge," Lt.-Gen.
Ricardo Sanchez told the British newspaper the Times.
Ma te guarda che ingrati, invece di lanciare petali di rosa ai
liberatori cercano di
stirargli qualche legionario, penso che debba avere a che fare con
questo
http://famulus.msnbc.com/FamulusIntl/reuters09-09-234945.asp?reg=MIDEAST
IRAQIS KILLED: 
MILITARY       2,320
NOTA: U.S. military estimates relating only to fighting in or near 
Baghdad. No other figures available.
CIVILIANS      Between 6,118 and 7,836
NOTA: - Figure compiled on Web site 
www.iraqbodycount.net
, run by
academics and peace activists, based on incidents reported by at least
two media sources. 
last but not least anche l'Albania ha raggiunto il suo momento di
notorieta'
in terra babilonese 
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,7289565%5E1702,00.html
Soldier killed, 11 Iraqis hurt
From correspondents in Baghdad
16sep03
AN Albanian coalition soldier has been killed and 11 Iraqis wounded in
a grenade attack
in the northern city of Mosul, the US army said today.
[..]
Albania, which has less than 100 troops in Iraq, is one of more than
30 countries that
have sent troops to Iraq to help stabilise the country. 
essendo che il Danese stirato pare sia in categoria "friendly fire" -
quindi non
e' conteggiato come morte ostile - direi che alla Albania va la palma
del primo
armigero stecchito in terra babilonese per le categoria "truppe dei
vassalli"
specialita' "morte ostile". Per la specialita' "morte NON ostile" e'
la Danimarca.
Le truppe di Tony "poodle" Blair fanno categoria a parte. Per inciso:
20 March < BRITISH "COMBACT"  < 1 May = 19
1 May      < BRITISH "COMBACT"  < 9 Sep = 11
20 March < BRITISH "NOT combact"  < 1 May = 31
1 May      < BRITISH "NOT combact"  < 9 Sep = 06
e questo e' quanto per l'aggiornamento di meta' mese.
Bye 
Circa i feriti Imperiali
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1041822,00.html
America's hidden battlefield toll 
New figures reveal the true number of GIs wounded in Iraq
Jason Burke in London and Paul Harris in New York
Sunday September 14, 2003
The Observer 
 The true scale of American casualties in Iraq is revealed today by
new figures obtained by The Observer, which show that more than
6,000 American servicemen have been evacuated for medical
 reasons since the beginning of the war, including more than 1,500
American soldiers who have been wounded, many seriously. 
[..]
Critics of the policy say it hides the true extent of the casualties.
The
new figures reveal that 1,178 American soldiers have been wounded
in combat operations since the war began on 20 March. 
It is believed many of the American casualties evacuated from Iraq
are seriously injured. Modern body armour, worn by almost all
 American troops, means wounds that would normally kill a man are
avoided. However vulnerable arms and legs are affected badly. This
has boosted the proportion of maimed among the injured. 
Nota finale: direi che e' statisticamente impossibile che su 1,500
feriti
non ne muoia nemmeno uno per le ferite riportate - quindi direi che
l'Impero sta presentando dati "massaggiati" circa il costo della
sua avventura babilonese

 ha scritto:
Allora se scrivo che sei un pedofilo non ti incazzi?
Perchè dovresti farlo? Tanto tu non puoi provare il contrario, no?
Vediamo: se violenti un ragazzino di 10 anni commetti un reato.
Se non lo fai, no. Ma potresti essere lo stesso un pedofilo, anche se non
violenti mai nessun ragazzino.
Questo secondo il tuo (ROTFL) ragionamento.
Ciao
Mr Esox
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Novita' recenti
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3119778.stm
Last Updated: Thursday, 18 September, 2003, 15:04 GMT 16:04 UK  
 US troops 'killed in Iraq attack'
At least three American  soldiers have been killed in
an attack on a convoy in the town of Khaldiyah, west of
Baghdad, according to witnesses. 
[..] 
In Falluja, US troops reportedly opened fire as guests at a
wedding party shot their guns into the air, killing a 14-year-old boy.
Witnesses said soldiers, believing they were under attack,
formed a circle and began shooting. 
At least four people were injured, witnesses said. 
la reazione dei legionari agli attacchi indica comunque nervi
saldi ed alta professionalita', come anche questo altro esempio
mostra:
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/09/18/sprj.irq.ambush.ap/index.html
U.S. troops under gunfire in Iraqi town
Thursday, September 18, 2003 Posted: 1427 GMT (10:27 PM HKT)
Taking fire from unknown positions, U.S forces were firing with no
obvious targets, in an apparent effort to protect themselves until
reinforcements arrived, a witness said.
The AP reporter was fired on by one of the tanks with three rounds
from its 50-caliber machine gun.
An AP photographer said his car was shot up by American fire, the
windshield blown out and all the tires flattened. The photographer was
not injured.
"no obvious target" - nervi saldi davvero.
In ogni caso gli ultimi sviluppi si possono mettere a  confrontare 
le dichiarazioni di Rumsfed, che preso da un sito a caso che
piu' o meno sono virgolettate ovunque
http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=3390367
sono le dichiarazioni del Rumsfeld di cui va evidenziato:
Rumsfeld Says Progress Made on Security in Iraq 
Thu September 4, 2003 04:58 PM ET 
By Tabassum Zakaria
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said on Thursday
the security situation had improved in Iraq since major combat was
declared
over on May 1,
[..]
"There has been measurable progress,"
Rumsfeld told reporters after meeting U.S. administrator Paul Bremer
and Lieutenant
General Ricardo Sanchez, the top U.S. military commander in Iraq. "It
is getting
better every day."
[..]
Immediately after landing at Baghdad, Rumsfeld visited U.S. soldiers
at the airport, some of whom were wounded this week.
 But he said the number of attacks had leveled off and there were
signs of improvement. "It's been fairly level in recent weeks."
[..]
 questa e' carina, proprio della intelligence necessitano gli Iracheni
[..]
Rumsfeld said Iraqis also needed to develop an intelligence element
and that
U.S. intelligence  agencies were working with the Coalition
Provisional Authority on how to set up a new Iraqi  intelligence
service.
Chiudo su una parentesi post moderna 
http://www.washingtondispatch.com/article_6653.shtml
Learning From Uncle Abe
Exclusive commentary by William S. Lind
[..]
While counts vary, it seems American forces are facing about fifteen
attacks on an average day, some of which leave American soldiers dead
or wounded
[..]
questo sotto  devo dire e' un ottimo esempio di sarcasmo postmoderno
[..]
The risk is that we will find it impossible to operationalize the war
at all, because the enemy will possess no centers of gravity that can
be targeted by operational maneuver. As the war becomes increasingly a
Fourth Generation conflict, this risk will increase; Fourth Generation
forces tend to have centers of gravity such as God, against whom not
even M-1 tanks have demonstrated much capability. If we cannot
operationalize the conflict, we will be forced into a war of attrition
at the tactical level, again like the Soviets in Afghanistan
[..]

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Noto che non ha il coraggio di fare il paragone tabu con il Vietnam.
Ancora forte 'sto tabu, nevvero?
Ale

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devo segnalare che ho purtroppo commesso un errore, 
infatti in Agosto 19+15=34 e non 33, in attesa che
ricompaia la tabella sulla CNN segno con "*"
MARCH- Total 65 - Hostile deaths: 57 Non Hostile deaths: 08 
Note: from March 20 
APRIL- Total 73 - Hostile deaths: 58 Non Hostile deaths: 15 
MAY--- Total 37 - Hostile deaths: 07 Non Hostile deaths: 30  
Note: 1 Maggio nota dichiarazione dell'Imperatore sul ponte della 
portaerei
JUNE-- Total 28 - Hostile deaths: 17 Non Hostile deaths: 11 
JULY-- Total 46 - Hostile deaths: 27 Non Hostile deaths: 19 
AUGUST Total*33 - Hostile deaths:*19 Non Hostile deaths:*15
TOTALI CNN PER SETTEMBRE (vedi sotto, questi sono giusti)
CUMUL. Total309 - Hostile deaths:197 Non Hostile deaths:112
SEPT-- Total*27 - Hostile deaths:*12 Non Hostile deaths:*14
Quindi finche' non ritrovo la tabella CNN (a proposito, quando parlo 
di tabella della CNN parlo dell'oggetto visibile qui in fondo alla 
pagina 
http://www.ohyeahbaby.com/content/more_casualties.cfm
 )
i totali sono corretti SOLO se si somma per colonne, le cifre
indicate con "*" potrebbero essere non corrette di una unita'.
Riferimento per i totali:
usando sempre la CNN per avere una certa consistenza
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/09/29/sprj.irq.main/index.html
U.S. soldier dies in Iraq convoy attack
Raids search for Fedayeen insurgents in Tikrit
Monday, September 29, 2003 Posted: 1554 GMT (11:54 PM HKT)
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A U.S. soldier was killed and one was wounded
Monday in an improvised explosive device attack on a convoy near
Fallujah, west of Baghdad, a U.S. military spokesman said.
Details of the attack in Habbaniya remained sketchy, said Col. George
Krivo, and the unit involved remained "in contact with the enemy" at
about 3 p.m. (7 a.m. EDT).
The report brought the number of U.S. forces killed in the Iraq war to
309 -- 197 deaths in hostile action and 112 in "nonhostile" activity,
which includes accidents.
la BBC ha finalmente aggiornato 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
e comunque ci sono anche altri siti dedicati al conteggio, tipo
http://antiwar.com/ewens/casualties.html
che ha anche i totali (stimati) dei morti iracheni e molti utili links
cito questo preso dal sito (in alto alla pagina)
http://www.ohyeahbaby.com/content/more_casualties.cfm
 
dice che la fonte e' US today lo posto preliminarmente ma tuttavia 
cerchero' (tempo permettendo) la url sul sito di US today per
sicurezza
USAToday U.S. reports that 3-6 troops are killed per week in Iraq
Posted 10/2/2003 10:51 AM Updated 10/2/2003 7:50 PM 
Nearly six months after the fall of Baghdad, U.S. troops are suffering
an average of three to six deaths and 40 wounded every week, the
commander
of American forces in Iraq said Thursday. 
American forces are being attacked 15-20 times a day, counting
roadside bombs,
mostly in Baghdad and the surrounding Sunni stronghold to the west and
north
of the capital, Sanchez said. 
Since May 1, when the U.S. declared the end of major combat, an
estimated 90
soldiers have died in combat, according to an Associated Press tally.
A total
of 314 American service members have died since the war started March
20,
according to the U.S. Defense Department. 
Landstuhl Regional Medical Center has been getting an average of 40 to
44
patients a day from Iraq, about 10 to 12% of whom are classified as 
"battle injuries," said spokeswoman Marie Shaw. 
Since the start of the conflict, the hospital has seen 6,684 patients
— 5,377 coming after May 1, Shaw said.
Bye
P.S. qualche legionario viene stirato anche in quel dell'Afghanistan
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/central/09/30/afghan.violence/index.html

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ringraziano.
Lasciati in balia.... PER DUE ANNI :)
Ed e' difficile coprire un'area grande due volte l'Italia. Ricordo le
varie pubblicita' con le sfide all'ultimo punto percentuale per la
copertuna nazionale italiana che ancora nessuno e' riuscito a coprire al
100% :)
-Stefano

>LA SAGA DELLA TELEFONIA MOBILE IN BABILONIA
Piuttosto dove stanno le compagnie americane e il loro standard? Non
dovevano vincere loro secondo le tue grandi premonizioni? :))
*LOL*
-Stefano

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3181392.stm
Last Updated: Friday, 10 October, 2003, 14:22 GMT 15:22 UK  
Iraqis protest at US 'terrorism'
Up to 10,000 Iraqi Shias have taken to the streets of a
Baghdad suburb to denounce  the US for "terrorism". 
The protest came during the funerals of two Shias allegedly
killed by US soldiers in Sadr City on Thursday. 
[..]
Chanting "no to America, yes to martyrs", the Shia mourners
spilled into the streets, accusing the US of attempting to sow
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
divisions between Shias and other Muslims in Iraq. 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"America claims to be the pioneer of freedom and
democracy, but it resembles or  indeed is a terror organisation,"
Sheikh Abdel Hadi al-Daraji told those gathered. 
"The Americans may have  forgotten that the real power
rests with God and not with the wretched America." 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Altre casualties della campagna Imperiale in Babilonia
http://www.sundayherald.com/37404
Why in-fighting is losing Iraq and could cost Rumsfeld his job
 
As Condoleezza Rice wins the war of the White House, the suddenly
unfashionable defence secretary looks and sounds like a loser, reports
Marion McKeone in New York
 
US casualties following the war in Iraq haven't been limited to its
troops. Washington is awash with rumours that Bush is about to launch
another pre-emptive strike before the 2004 election – this time at his
own national security team.
Condoleezza Rice's appointment to head the Iraq Stabilisation Group –
which takes over day-to-day control of the reconstruction of Iraq from
the Pentagon – wasn't just a promotion for the woman whom Washington
insiders widely believe will succeed Colin Powell as secretary of
state in a second Bush administration.
It is now virtually certain that, should Bush win the 2004 election,
Donald Rumsfeld will not serve as secretary of defence. In fact there
is a growing belief in Washington that Rumsfeld, whose political
fortunes have plummeted in the aftermath of the war in Iraq, could
even step aside before 2004.
[..]
Even by Washington standards, where political fortunes never remain
fixed, Rumsfeld's fall from grace has been spectacular. He responded
to Rice's appointment by ann ouncing that he had not been consulted in
advance, claiming he was informed of the decision through a classified
memo. For an administration that prides itself on secrecy and
discipline, his outburst to several European newspapers was
extraordinary. When one reporter pressed him for details about the
chain of events leading to Rice's assumption of control, he responded
furiously. "I said I don't know. Isn't that clear? You don't
understand English? I was not there for the backgrounding."
Bye

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3181392.stm
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 cheeks.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3204508.stm
Last Updated: Sunday, 19 October, 2003, 05:54 GMT 06:54 UK  
Marines held over Iraq POW abuses
The US military has charged  eight Marine reservists,
including two officers, in connection with
mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners-of-war.
[..]
 
Bye

seren...@my-deja.com
 (serenissima) wrote in message 
il sotto thread delle perdite imperiali in Iraq
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Non e' tempo di bilancio che il mese non e' ancora finito
quindi non ripeto la tabella, le entry day-to-day si trovano qui
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
pero' qualche numero e' interessante riportarlo:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/984828.asp?0cv=KB10#BODY
riporta Newsweek che dice
‘Non-Hostile' Fire  
 The rate of U.S. military suicides is rising in Iraq. 
The Army needs to tell us more about the numbers and the causes 
Oct. 24 —  The "war on terror" is often interpreted through
a lot of cold, faceless numbers. Here's an attempt to
personify one. First, a refresher: The number 87 relates
to the billions requested to rebuild Iraq. The number
130,000 counts the service men and women on the
ground there. The numbers 1,947 and 343 tally how
many of them have been injured and have died in and out
of combat. Here's where it's time to pause for a
moment. Two numbers within that fatality figure are
particularly alarming: 14 and 12 represent the suicides
and the possible suicides that have occurred among U.S.
troops in Iraq.
quindi 14 suicidi accertati e 12 possibili, e' interessante
vedere una altra stima dei feriti [1,947] che, dal tempo della
pubblicazione del primo articolo su questo tema sul guardian,
dati ufficiali non ci sono - solo stime ufficiose.
Altro articolo (gia' postato) sul tema era:
http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news03/101803_news_hospital.shtml
Military hospital sees no letup in Iraq  conflict casualties 
By Melissa Eddy 
 The Associated Press
usando il google opzione news si possono anche leggere
svariati giornali americani, questo e' il Portsmouth Herald
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/10252003/world/57168.htm
che ho notato si appoggiano spesso alla associated press.
Three U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq 
Saturday, October 25, 2003 
By Tarek Al-Issawi Associated Press 
Parla di svariati attacchi con mortai, e particolarmente 
gli ultimi due paragrafi fanno supporre che il modus 
operandi degli imperiali non li faccia amar molto dai babilonesi  
The deaths bring to 108 the number of American soldiers killed 
by hostile fire since President Bush declared an end to major combat
May 1.
[..]
Lt. Col. George Krivo, the U.S. command spokesman, said attacks on 
coalition forces have averaged about 26 a day over the past two weeks.
About three-quarters of the attacks have occurred in an arc stretching
from the west through Baghdad to the region north of the capital. 
[..]
The witnesses said three injured U.S. soldiers were evacuated after
American soldiers sprayed  the area with gunfire. After the attack, 
troops detained several Iraqi civilians, including one who
was dragged from his vehicle and punched repeatedly in the kidney as 
he fell to the ground. 
"Immediately after the attack, which damaged a Humvee, troops fired 
randomly and two helicopters hovered overhead," said one witness, 
Youssef Mohammed. "The troops arrested five shopkeepers who were 
in their shops close to the location of the blast." 
Bye
Questo qui sotto per il momento demenziale del thread
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2003/09/28/2003069586
`New Europe' troops face teething troubles in Iraq
REUTERS , WARSAW 
Sunday, Sep 28, 2003,Page 7 
First the good news: The nations making up the Polish-led force which
has taken control of a belt of central and southern Iraq have suffered
no combat casualties.
Now the bad news: Ukrainian and Bulgarian soldiers have been wounded
in barrack-room shootings, Poles have been sent home for drunkenness
and Bulgaria's contingent wants more danger money.
Reports reaching the home front of problems with discipline, equipment
and pay are raising questions over whether America's "New Europe"
allies who make up much of the 9,000-strong, 23-nation force are up to
the job.
Defense officials argue that, barely a month into their mission to
stabilize the mainly Shiite region of 5 million, the eastern Europeans
have overcome teething troubles and are rooting out misconduct.
"There is no serious problem," Polish defense ministry spokesman
Eugeniusz Mleczak said on Friday. "The fact that we are eliminating
such cases shows discipline is very good."
Five soldiers from Poland's 2,300-strong contingent, based in ancient
Babylon, were sent home this week for getting drunk. One had his
weapon stolen.
Poland said Thursday it would replace the force's commander, Andrzej
Tyszkiewicz. General Mieczyslaw Bieniek takes over in January.
In a more serious incident, three soldiers from Bulgaria's contingent
of 500 based in Kerbala were sent home last week for "conduct
non-compliant with their duties."
A military investigation found the soldiers responsible for wounding a
female private. Reports blamed the shooting on alcohol, but details
remain sketchy.
Commanders of the Ukraine's 1,600 troops based in Kut have launched a
criminal probe into the wounding of a sergeant when a colleague picked
up a rifle left lying with its safety off.
Defense Minister Yevhen Marchuck has sacked several commanders for
putting 15-year-old tires on armored personnel carriers bound for
Iraq. The tires fell apart after driving just 100km.
After saturation coverage of the handover of Camp Babylon by US
Marines to Polish command, reporting has tapered off amid a lack of
hard news from the largely peaceful region.

 SEPT-- Total*27 - Hostile deaths:*12 Non Hostile deaths:*14
Totali BBC per Ottobre fino al 28 incluso:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
prego ripetere il conto per contro proprio
Totale 41 di cui direi 32 Ostili, considerato che in Ottobre
gli hanno tirato giu' pure un elicottero (5 feriti) e stirato
un M1 (2 morti) questo mese per gli Imperiali e' abbastanza negativo. 
Sono quindi interessanti da rileggere le 
dichiarazioni del generale imperiale Sanchez fatte a inzio mese
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3159084.stm
Last Updated: Thursday, 2 October, 2003, 15:24 GMT 16:24 UK  
US faces 'tougher' foe in Iraq
[..]
"The enemy has evolved," said Lieutenant General Ricardo
 Sanchez, commander of US ground forces in Iraq.
"It is a little bit more lethal, little bit more complex, little bit
more sophisticated and in some cases a little bit more tenacious." 
[..]
Qualora si volesse un aggiornamento in tempo reale sul conteggio
perdite suggerisco la opzione News di google, assai efficace:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&edition=us&q=US+casualties+Iraq
e che permette di reperire fonti che di solito si trascurano,
giornali di provincia americani, fonti islamiche o asiatiche e cosi'
via.
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=7622
[..]
Before the two US deaths in Mosul were announced, the Pentagon put the
American post-war combat toll at 120. During the main six-week
offensive prior to May 1, 114 US soldiers were killed by hostile fire.
[..]
che cito sopra solo per confermare che evidentemente e' 114 e non 115
il numero
giusto - forse la tabella della CNN che usavo come riferimento era
davvero sballata.
qualora interessati i miei post precedenti sul tema si trovano qui:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=%20&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_umsgid=%3C6196c429.030...@posting.google.com%3E&lr=&hl=en
Bye
P.S. una lettura interessante con esempi di postmodernismo scritto
http://www.cato.org/dailys/10-18-03.html
October 18, 2003
Bush Must Find Exit Strategy from Iraq
by Doug Bandow
Doug Bandow is a senior fellow with the Cato Institute, [..]
Despite the confident tone he presented in his recent speech 
to the United Nations, President George Bush has acknowledged 
that the United States  faces a "security issue in Iraq", a "massive
and long-term undertaking." The conflict will soak up a large share 
of American military strength for years. 
[..]
Frequent deployments force reservists to leave their jobs as well as
families, often causing a ruinous loss of income. Army trucks in Iraq
have
been festooned with the sign: "One Weekend A Month My Ass".

 Bush Must Find Exit Strategy from Iraq


seren...@my-deja.com
 (serenissima)  
Dopo aver aggiornato parzialmente la tabella ho fatto un giro in rete
per confrontare i numeri
http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/
There have been 471 confirmed coalition deaths, 401 Americans, 53
British, 16 Italians and one Polish, in the war as of November 13,
2003.
Ora, a me risultava anche un Danese ed un Albanese, saranno
mica stati declassati a "non hostile"? Mah!
Per la tabella che cerco di aggiornare vedi 
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&selm=6196c429.0311160616.7de48552%40posting.google.com
 
Anyway facendo un giro in rete ho trovato questa che riporto per
intero:
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20031113-074311-4128r
U.S. casualties from Iraq war top 9,000 
By Mark Benjamin
Published 11/14/2003 2:06 PM
WASHINGTON, Nov. 14 (UPI) -- The number of U.S. casualties from
Operation
Iraqi Freedom -- troops killed, wounded or evacuated due to injury or 
illness -- has passed 9,000, according  to new Pentagon data.
In addition to the 397 service members who have died and the 1,967
wounded,
6,861 troops were medically evacuated for non-combat conditions
between
March 19 and Oct. 30,  the Army Surgeon General's office said.
That brings total casualties among all services to more than 9,200, 
and represents an increase of nearly 3,000 non-combat
medical evacuations reported since the first week of October. 
The Army offered no immediate explanation for the increase.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
In questi casi viene da sospettare che sia un caso di creative
accouting
A leading veterans' advocate expressed concern.
"We are shocked at the dramatic increase in casualties," 
said Steve Robinson, executive director of the National Gulf War
Resource Center. 
 Of the non-combat medical evacuations:
-- 2,464 were for injuries, such as those sustained in vehicle
accidents.
-- 4,397 were due to illness; 504 of those were classified as
psychiatric, 378 as neurological, and another 150 as neurosurgery.
quindi 504+378 = 882 flippati per lo stress da combattimento vengono
conteggiati come "non combat", interessante, vedere anche oltre.
 "We are especially concerned about the psychological and 
neurological evacuations from this war," Robinson said. "We request
a clarification of the types of illnesses people are suffering from 
so we do not have a repeat of the first Gulf War. We need to
understand the nature and types of illnesses so scientists can 
determine if significant trends are occurring."
Army Surgeon General's Office spokeswoman Virginia Stephanakis
told United Press International Thursday that it is misleading 
to combine psychiatric and neurological problems. Some  of the 
neurosurgery might be operations on the spinal cord, for example.
 "Those are apples and oranges," she said.
She also said that some troops evacuated for psychiatric reasons 
later returned after getting a rest.
Ovvero qualcuno degli 882 flippati e stato rimandato al fronte
con un arma in mano, c'e' da domandarsi sulla qualita' del suo
servizio - ma tant'e'..
In early October, the Army Surgeon General's office said 3,915 
soldiers had been evacuated from Operation Iraqi Freedom for
non-combat injuries and illnesses, including 478 with 
psychological problems and 387 for neurological reasons.
The new total of 6,861 reported non-combat evacuations is a rise 
of 57 percent since then.
The latest data on non-combat evacuations includes 1,628 
orthopedic (bone) injuries. 
Chiaro, tipicamente si ribaltano nei fossi o si pitturano su
un altro mezzo perche' guidano per schivare i proiettili o
le improvised explosive device ma anche questi sono non combat. Mah!
Other leading causes for evacuations include:
--831 surgeries for injuries;
--289 cardiology cases;
^^^^^^^ ma chi hanno mandato nel golfo? ma gli fanno visite mediche
prima di mandarli?
-- 249, gastrointestinal;
-- 242, pulmonary (lung);
-- 634, general surgery;
-- 319, gynecological;
-- 290, urological;
-- 37, dental.
Stephanakis said the pulmonary problems included soldiers who
suffered from pneumonia as part of a cluster investigated 
by the Army in August.
The numbers don't include service members treated in theater 
or those whose illnesses -- such as Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder
-- were not apparent until after they returned to the United States.
In mancanza di spiegazioni devo dire che in rete si e' sviluppata
una numerologia, anzi, statisticologia, assai interessante, 
questo e' un esempio:
http://www.etaiwannews.com/World/2003/11/15/1068861483.htm
U.S. casualties in Iraq tops early Vietnam war deaths
2003-11-15 / Reuters / 
The U.S. death toll in Iraq has surpassed the number of American      
 
                                 soldiers killed during the first
three years of the Vietnam War, [..]                                  
                                                A Reuters analysis of
U.S. Defense Department statistics showed on
Thursday that the Vietnam War,which the Army says officially          
 
                             began on December 11, 1961,produced a
combined 392 fatal casualties
from 1962 through 1964,when American troop levels in Indochina 
stood at just over 17,000. 
Interessante statistica.
La rete permette anche di leggersi fonti assai diverse, tipo:
http://www.islamonline.net/english/In_Depth/Iraq_Aftermath/2003/11/article_05.shtml
Iraqis and the Occupation  
As US Casualties Mount, Iraqis Vow More Attacks 
By Firas Al-Atraqchi 13/11/2003
[..]
Iraqi Resistance will likely grow and become deadlier. Iraqis know
they are
in for a difficult time ahead. Last week, White House officials
privately
hoped that the suicide attacks on the Red Cross (ICRC) and previously
on
the United Nations compound would convince Iraqis that the resistance
was
barbarous and against their best interests. The hope fizzled as Iraqis
took
to the streets not only blaming the CPA for lack of security, but also
blaming Israel for orchestrating the attacks "to undermine security
and
stability in Iraq and pit one side (Shiite and Sunni) against
another."
North American media pundits have seen fit to give very little room to
Iraqi
voices of dissent; Iraqi opinions of the reconstruction effort, or
lack
thereof, are drowned out by the number of proponents of the Iraqi war
-
Friedman, Krauthammer, Gaffney, Rice - who repeatedly cite the number
of free
newspapers that have blossomed in Iraq recently, some 300 newspapers
and
magazines. However, a number of these newspapers have been closed by
US
forces raising concerns that the press in Iraq was not that free and
could only
print news US forces found acceptable.
[..]
Bye
P.S. altri hint di un postmodernismo che lentamente si fa strada:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Jay+Leno+constitution+Iraq
As you may have heard, the US is putting together a constitution for
Iraq.
Why don't we just give them ours? Think about it - it was written by
very
smart people, it's served us well 
for over two hundred years, and besides, we're not using it anymore.

I legionari, che sono riusciti a riportare a casa le strasse
in un pezzo unico, hanno modo di apprezzare la gratitudine e
la riconoscenza per il loro sacrificio una volta ritornati
nel territorio metropolitano dell'Impero.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/992034.asp?cp1=1
Military reservists filing complaints
More soldiers report discrimination in returning to jobs
By Kirstin Downey THE WASHINGTON POST
Nov. 11 — Some veterans coming home from military duty say they 
are getting a cold reception when they return to work. About 1,300
National
Guardsmen and reservists filed complaints with the Labor Department in
the fiscal year ended Sept. 30, saying they suffered discrimination at
work
when they returned to their regular jobs after their tours of duty, 
government officials said. It couldn't be learned whether any were
returning
from Iraq. The number of complaints is up from 900 complaints in 2001.
Occhio che questa e' bella:
CONCERNED ABOUT THE rise in complaints, Labor Secretary Elaine L. Chao
has
 released a televised public service announcement reminding employers
that
they must reinstate workers called to military duty. "They did their
job
— now let's do ours," Chao says.
ahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahaha 
[..]
The Denver prosecutor settled another case in March. The government
alleged
that when Ronald D. Brown, a driver for Stevens Transport Inc., a 
Dallas-based trucking firm, called his boss in May 2001 to say he had 
to report for military duty, he was told to park the truck in a truck
stop
and find his own way home. The cost of towing the truck was deducted
from
his final paycheck, the government said in the lawsuit. In March,
Brown
received a $20,000 settlement from Stevens Transport, releasing the
company
from any further liability in the case.
[..]
 In a private lawsuit filed in federal court in New York, Anthony
Smith, 42,
a Long Island Army Reservist, alleges he was fired in September 2001
after
he told his employer, Pert Andreassi Construction Management, that he
had
been mobilized because of the World Trade Center attacks. 
       He was unable to find another job, and he and his family
suffered
 financial hardship, according to his attorney, Nora Constance Marino,
of
Great Neck, N.Y. To support his family, he volunteered for duty again
and
served for nine months, including a tour of duty in Iraq, she said. 
Officials at Pert Andreassi did not return calls seeking comment.
       John Goheen, spokesman for the National Guard Association, said
many employers have treated their workers generously. But many
companies
have downsized, asking fewer workers to do more work and leaving
co-workers overburdened when some are called to duty. "The bulk of
employers recognize
 what's going on in Iraq, but we've got some folks that don't know the
law
or are trying to skirt the law," Goheen said. 
quello che si dimentica di dire e' la quantita' di piccole aziende che
vanno a fallire perche' uno dei titolari si trova aggregato alle
legioni con il compito di occupare la nuova provincia babilonese.
Ripeto un articolo gia" postato su questo thread:
vi e' un interessante articolo su FT del 28 Aug 2003
"small business pay a heavy price for Washington's war on terror"
 per small biz si intende aziende composte da poche persone, ovvero
pochi soci. che sono severamente colpite nella loro operativita'
dal fatto che un dipendente o un socio se ne debba partire perche'
richiamato dalla National Guard per andare in Babilonia (FT dice
che sono 292,000 tra national Guard e riserve richiamati in servizio
dal 11 Sept 2001, piu' di 190,000 "are still serving").
Associazioni di settore stimano che il 70% dei riservisti arrivano
da "small medium size companies, 'which have less ability to take up
the slack [dovuto alla assenza] than larger company".
Infatti da August 2001 "10,700 business have applied for the Military 
Reservist Economic Injury Disasters Loans from the Small 
Business Administration".
Attenzione ora al dettaglio, mancando personale chiave e non volendo
chiudere molte aziende sono dunque forzate ad assumere quindi
"the departure of so many reservist may have also had the effect of
artificially boosting employment figures." La cifra misurata e'
122,000
lavori temporanei creati da Aprile ad oggi, e' oggetto di dibattito
quanta percentuale sia dovuta alla crescita artificiale.
Last but not least, l'Impero tratta bene i suoi legionari come gli
esempi riportati mostrano "Allen Johnson, who runs an excavation
business in Pennsylvania (..) was given THREE HOURS' NOTICE TO REPORT
FOR ACTIVE DUTY (..)" - certo, visto che le elezioni si avvicinano 
quel babbeo di Rumsfeld si sveglia e dice che il trattamento
che il suo dipartimento a riservato alle pezze da piedi che 
spedisce alla conquista della Babilonia ' "not fair".
ed anche il gia' postato ed assai postmoderno
http://www.cato.org/dailys/10-18-03.html
October 18, 2003
Bush Must Find Exit Strategy from Iraq
by Doug Bandow
Doug Bandow is a senior fellow with the Cato Institute, [..]
Despite the confident tone he presented in his recent speech 
to the United Nations, President George Bush has acknowledged 
that the United States  faces a "security issue in Iraq", a "massive
and long-term undertaking." The conflict will soak up a large share 
of American military strength for years. 
[..]
Frequent deployments force reservists to leave their jobs as well as
families, often causing a ruinous loss of income. Army trucks in Iraq
have
been festooned with the sign: "One Weekend A Month My Ass".
Bye

...
 
Principalmente dedicato al Donkey Attack che ho trovato 
relazionato anche in 
http://www.msnbc.com/news/996579.asp
Iraq's Donkey Desperadoes
	Iraqi insurgents are relying on a surprisingly effective low-tech
weapon to combat U.S. and other occupying troops
By Christian Caryl
NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE
Nov. 22 —  "Every day they trust us more." Lieutenant Joe Ryan,
standing to one side as his troops man a checkpoint on a Baghdad
highway, is explaining to a visiting reporter all the good works that
his unit has been doing for the Iraqis.
It's a long list: schools built, police stations equipped, garbage
removed. "And that's why things are basically pretty quiet around
here."
[..]
AS SO OFTEN happens in Iraq these days, the hopeful rhetoric doesn't
hold up. Suddenly, a salvo of loud booms rips through the early
morning air. A gunner standing on one of Ryan's Humvees calls out,
"It's the oil ministry! It's been hit." The soldiers quickly wind up
their checkpoint and speed off down the road, their M1A1 Abrams tanks
taking the curves like dragsters.
Nota: La qualita' delle strade a disposizione dei sudditi della
neoprovincia imperiale
non deve essere tra le top priorities dei legionari.
In a few minutes they're at the ministry, where flame and smoke are
pouring from four points of impact along the fifth floor. "Rockets,"
someone says.
[..]
Recently U.S. forces have been executing a large-scale offensive
against the insurgents known as "Iron Hammer," and just hours before
the rocket attacks, Maj. Gen. Martin Dempsey, commander of 1st AD, had
credited that get-tough policy with a 70 percent reduction in attacks
against U.S. forces. His presentation to reporters was replete with
all the big-ticket flourishes of modern American warfare: Apache
helicopters, advanced night-vision capability, radar-guided spotting
of insurgent mortar blasts.
But on Friday, the army's enemies fought back with weapons of a
decidedly different kind: donkeys.
[..]
Last but not least, the use of donkeys deftly undermined the image of
invulnerable omnipotence that U.S. generals are eager to project. In
Arab culture, the donkey is a particularly potent symbol of harmless
stupidity. Anyone who can be attacked by a donkey, the insurgents seem
to say, ends up looking like an ass. And that's definitely not the
kind of reputation that will help the coalition to gain Iraqis'
confidence and win the fight.
La data e' il 22 Nov e presumubilmente e' stata scritta, trattandosi
di Newsweek penso uno o due  giorni prima. 
Quindi e' da notare il bilancio del primo weekend dopo l'operazione
Iron Hammer. Prendo il bilancio dalla CNN & reuters
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=407855&section=news
Three U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq
Sun 23 November, 2003 16:36 
By Seb Walker
MOSUL, Iraq (Reuters) - Two U.S. soldiers have been killed while their
car was stopped in traffic in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul. Their
bodies were looted by residents angered by U.S. raids in the area,
witnesses say.
Nota: questo deve aver dato orgine a notizie altrimenti riportate di
soldati con gola tagliata, quello che e' interessante notare - a
prescindere dal dettaglio se gli hanno tagliato la gola da morti
oppure da
storditi da una esplosione - e' la liberta' di movimento intorno ad un
mezzo imperiale colpito
evidentemente assai ben lontano da un eventuale supporto.
In ogni caso il conto del post iron hammer: due piu' questo sotto fa
tre.
A roadside bomb killed another soldier north of Baghdad.
A spokesman for the 101st Airborne Division said the two soldiers in
Mosul were shot in the middle of the day as they travelled from one
military compound to another on Sunday.
But several Iraqi witnesses said the soldiers were stabbed and had
their throats slit before their attackers tried to set fire to their
vehicle, a civilian four-wheel-drive.
Witnesses said locals stole items from the dead men's pockets, and one
Iraqi was seen brandishing bloodstained Iraqi dinars he said were
taken from the bodies.
[..]
In Baquba, 40 miles north of Baghdad, a 4th Infantry Division soldier
was killed and two were wounded when a roadside bomb was detonated as
their convoy drove past, spokesman Lieutenant Colonel William
MacDonald said.
Quattro con questo (i feriti non contano)  .
Pausa per il momento di comicita' irreale:
n a move to normalise post-war diplomatic ties, Iraq's Foreign
Ministry announced that Rend Rahim, an Iraqi-American woman, would
become Iraq's ambassador to the United States -- ending 13 years of
diplomatic freeze between the two countries.
Fine della pausa. Ora sulla CNN.
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/11/23/sprj.irq.main/
Attacks on convoys kill 3 U.S. troops
Sunday, November 23, 2003 Posted: 1350 GMT ( 9:50 PM HKT)
BAGHDAD (CNN) -- Three U.S. soldiers were killed Sunday in separate 
attacks on their military convoys in Iraq, according to the 
Attenzione che la CNN dai il conteggio dei non ostili, ovvero:
[..]
Two 1st Armored Division soldiers were killed and another was injured
Saturday when an M-1 Abrams
tank struck their Humvee, Central Command said. The incident took
place near Baghdad's airport.
A 4th Infantry Division soldier apparently drowned late Friday when
his vehicle slid off the road into
a canal, Central Command said. Soldiers were in pursuit of a
suspicious vehicle near Balad at the time
[..]
che secondo me da bene la ipocrisia mediatica, annegamenti durante un
inseguimento , o personale
triatato in incidenti stradali imputabili assai verosimilmente al
fatto che i guidatori pensano
a scansare le bombe, sono perdite che andrebbero conteggiate tra le
ostili.
Qualche dubbio vedo che sta venendo anche nei media imperiali che
adesso:
[..]
The deaths bring the total number of U.S. soldiers killed in the Iraq
war to 432 -- 300 of them
under hostile conditions. 
Since May 1, when President Bush declared the end of major combat
operations, 290 U.S.
troops have died, 185 from hostile fire. 
[..]
ed il resto dall'ambiente ostile, verrebbe da dire
In ogni caso, bilancio del  weekend dopo Iron Hammer, 6 stirati piu'
il solito numero
di feriti che non viene comunicato.
Pausa per il momento di comicita' irreale:
Saturday night, an explosion at an oil compound near the northern city
of Kirkuk injured
four employees, according to an Iraqi Northern Oil Co. spokesman. 
The blast happened at the oil company's Baba Cultural Social Club,
said spokesman Mike McAleer.
The employees were from Kellogg Brown & Root, the engineering and
construction unit of Halliburton Co.
The preliminary investigation indicates the explosion was caused by a
bomb, McAleer said.
Cioe' dico - Baba Cultural Social Club - non ho parole.
Fine della pausa. 
Probabilmente ancora memori della faccenda dell'areo spia i cinesi
si dilettano nell'evidenziare le parti piu' "interessanti" del
pensiero militare imperiale
http://www1.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2003-11/22/content_283867.htm
[..]
Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt said the strikes reflected the low-tech
ingenuity guerrillas employ in fighting the high-tech might of a
coalition struggling for solid grass-roots information about the
elusive insurgents.
"No matter how high-tech you are, no matter how proficient you are, no
matter how professional your soldiers are ... we are still dependent
to a great degree on actionable intelligence," said Kimmitt, the
coalition's deputy chief of operations.
Speaking to reporters, Kimmitt said intelligence-gathering was
"getting better every day" but was not good enough yet.
"Do we have enough actionable intelligence? No. The lack of actionable
intelligence, does that allow donkeys to sneak in and fire rockets?
Yes."
Calling the insurgents "ingenious," Kimmitt said they were "a very
clever enemy who knows that we don't have the best intelligence in the
world" and will exploit that weakness.
[..]
come ben sanno i Cinesi dell'Ambasciata Cinese a Belgrado.
Chiudo con svariati esempio che mostrano come il 
il postmodernismo avanza inarrestabile
Bye
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http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/world/ny-woiraq223554887nov22,0,1771916.story?coll=ny-worldnews-headlines
Attack Method: Donkey Carts
Used by guerrillas in rocket assaults
By Samson Mulugeta
[..]
The novelty of the donkey carts yielded jokes. A passerby was heard
asking a friend in Arabic,   "I hear they caught the donkey. Is he
talking?"
 "No," his companion replied. "He is a Wahhabi," a member of the
hard-line Muslim sect that spawned Osama bin Laden.
--------
una lettura interessante con esempi di postmodernismo scritto
http://www.cato.org/dailys/10-18-03.html
October 18, 2003
Bush Must Find Exit Strategy from Iraq
by Doug Bandow
Doug Bandow is a senior fellow with the Cato Institute, [..]
[..]
Frequent deployments force reservists to leave their jobs as well as
families, often causing a ruinous loss of income. Army trucks in Iraq
have
been festooned with the sign: "One Weekend A Month My Ass". 
--------
A proposito di iracheni grati per la "liberazione"..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3234543.stm
"The Americans are pigs. We will hold a celebration because
this helicopter went down - a big celebration," an Iraqi farmer
near the crash site told Reuters news agency.

 by Doug Bandow



Y eso en el mejor de los casos. En Vietnam fue, pese al caos, bastante
negociado. 
Passando da un aspirante vassallo ad un altro, 
qualora si voglia seguire in dettaglio la politica Giapponese
consiglio l'Asahi Shimbun,
gia' da prima l'invio non figurava non cosi' certo
http://www.asahi.com/english/world/TKY200311220147.html
Rocket attacks in Baghdad another blow for SDF dispatch 
The Asahi Shimbun 
Friday's rocket attacks on the Palestine Hotel, a haunt of foreign
journalists, and other buildings in downtown Baghdad raised the stakes
over plans to dispatch Self-Defense Forces to assist with rebuilding
Iraq.
[..]
``The situation is worsening in the sense that the indiscriminate
nature of recent attacks is a persistent and obvious attempt to add to
the confusion,'' Koizumi said. ``But there are signs of improvement,
since Iraqis are moving to rebuild their own country.''
http://www.asahi.com/english/politics/TKY200311260161.html
Koizumi remains elusive on SDF dispatch to Iraq 
By TARO KARASAKI, The Asahi Shimbun 
[..]
Koizumi maintained the position that Tokyo would ``cautiously evaluate
the situation'' before any possible dispatch and make all efforts to
ensure the troops' safety.
He said Japan would wait for a report from a fact-finding mission
expected to return from Iraq by the end of November.
The government had earlier planned to send troops to Samawah in
southern Iraq by the end of the year, but Tokyo has backed down since
realizing that the area was not entirely safe.
 
[..]
Chiuderei con la nota url con la timeline delle perdite imperiali
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
ed interessanti considerazioni sulla visita dell'Imperatore
alle su legioni accampate in quel di Babilonia
http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/newyork/columnists/ny-nyhen303563909nov30,0,2664177.column?coll=ny-ny-columnists
Ellis Henican 
Theatrics Of It All In Iraq
November 30, 2003
It was one of those moments of charming distillation that
 occasionally present themselves in the rear sections of airplanes.
This was Thanksgiving eve. The plane was Air Force One. And
Richard Keil, a White House beat reporter for Bloomberg News,
was jammed into the press area with Mike Allen of The
Washington Post, Jim Angle of Fox News and 10 other media
types. The departure had been sudden. The secrecy was total.
The destination was Baghdad.
George W. Bush was leaving his family behind at the ranch in
Crawford and paying a visit on some of the 130,000 war-weary
U.S. troops he is keeping uncomfortably in Iraq.
  [..]
This trip had been planned by the president's closest aides over
the past five weeks. It was staffed for maximum media exposure.
It was timed for the slowest of slow news days.
And the result - no question about it - was a remarkable piece of
political theater.
As remarkable, you'd have to say, as the president's last big
theatrical turn: his May 1 "Mission Accomplished" swoop-down on
the deck of the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln, when he strode
up to the cameras in a flight suit and declared major combat had
 ended in Iraq.
[..]
Almost seven months after the "Mission Accomplished" swoop-down, 
war still rages in Iraq. The end is nowhere in sight. Security is
getting
worse - not better. We lost more American soldiers in
November than in any previous month. More U.S. troops now have 
been killed and injured after the supposed end of combat than before.
And the film footage from that giddy day in May is now more likely 
to enliven a commercial for one of the Democrats now running
 for president - not Bush's re-election campaign.


...
sottothread sulle perdite imperiali in Iraq, accessibile da:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=%20&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_umsgid=%3C6196c429.030...@posting.google.com%3E&lr=&hl=en
si sa quanto dispiace all'Imperatore se i suoi legionari vengono
stirati
in quel di Babilonia, soprattutto quando si avvicina il tempo delle
elezioni.
Giusto per brevita' invece della tabellina metto un riassuntivo
preso da un giornale dell'Ohio
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1071311684294161.xml
12/13/03
Ohio guardsman drowns; another now missing in Iraq
[..]
As of yesterday, 141 soldiers had died in noncombat incidents in Iraq 
since fighting began in March, according to the Pentagon. 
The Pentagon's count of all U.S. casualties in the war in Iraq reached
452 yesterday; at least 13 were Ohio soldiers, according to The Plain 
Dealer's archives. 
[..]
593 a meta' Dicembre, e le elezioni si avvicinano, si puo' capire 
quindi l'urgenza degli imperiali a trovare qualcuno che si faccia
stirare al posto dei legionari, si puo' meno capire questo...
(che devo dire fa schiantare dal ridere una volta che lo si inserisce
nel contesto)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3310809.stm
New Iraq army hit by resignations 
US plans to create a new Iraqi army have suffered a setback 
after hundreds of recruits resigned. 
The army's first 700-man battalion lost 300 troops who were 
within weeks of being deployed, Pentagon officials say. 
[..]
In Baghdad, a coalition spokesman Charles Heatley told the 
BBC that the incident was just a pay dispute. 
"They used to be paid two dollars a month and now the recruits are 
being paid $60 a month, but they feel they ought to be paid more than
that,"
he told the BBc World Service's Newshour programme. 
"That's fine, if that's what they want, then they can go find another
job.
There are plenty of people queuing up to join the new Iraqi army." 
[..]
Teneresi a mente i 60 USD e fare un rapido controllo sul piccolo
"sovrapprezzo" applicato dalla ditta di Cheney (il vice imperatore)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/business/3312015.stm
Published: 2003/12/12 01:57:25 GMT
Oil firm 'overcharged' US in Iraq 
An oil services firm formerly run by US Vice President Dick Cheney may
have
overcharged US forces in Iraq by some $61m, a Pentagon audit has
found.
The firm, Kellogg, Brown and Root - a subsidiary of Halliburton - has
denied
charging too much for fuel for troops. 
[..]
Halliburton says that the dangers of transporting oil to Iraq make 
it necessary to charge high prices. 
[..]
Ms Hall said more than 20 of the company's trucks had been damaged or
stolen
and that nine drivers had been injured and one killed bringing fuel
into Iraq.
"To allege that KBR is overcharging for this needed service insults
the KBR
employees who are performing this dangerous mission to help bring fuel
to the
people of Iraq," Ms Hall said in October when questions were first
raised
about the contract. 
Quindi, essendo che il portavoce imperiale ritiene che 60 USD
al mese sono piu' che sufficienti per rischiare di beccarsi una
pallottola e ragionevole ritenere che, guidato dalle leggi 
del libero mercato cosi' care all'Imperatore (buahhahahah).
pure la KBR paghi 60 USD/mese-uomo i suoi autisti.
Il che permette di stimare il numero degli autisti della KBR
partendo dal sovraprezzo, infatti:
61,000,000 di USD diviso 60 USD/mese-uomo fanno ca. 1,016,667
mese-uomo.
Visto che lavorano nella provincia imperiale al massimo 
da Maggio fanno 9 mesi - quindi dividendo i mesi-uomo 1,016,667 
si ottiene 112,963 autisti.
Orca se deve essere un posto trafficato il deserto babilonese
in questo periodo! ahabhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahah
oppure la ditta del viceimperatore fa la cresta sulle forniture
ahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhah e se volete
continuare a ridere potete leggere di nuovo (lo ho gia' postato)
questo:
 
http://www.g2mil.com/Dec2003.htm
[..]
Vice President Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliburton for 
five years before quitting to join President Bush's campaign in 2000. 
He left Halliburton nearly bankrupt after a disastrous oil deal in
Brazil
and a merger with dying Dresser Industries.  Nevertheless, Cheney 
received  $20 million in severance pay from Halliburton, and continues
to receive deferred compensation of around $150,000 a year. 
[..]
ho googlato in giro:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&edition=us&q=cheney+halliburton+deferred+compensation
ho preso la cbs
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/26/politics/main575356.shtml
che dice tra l'altro:
September 26, 2003 15:22:27                                           
Cheney's Halliburton Ties Remain
WASHINGTON, Sept. 26, 2003
[..]
According to The Post, while Cheney was defense secretary the 
Pentagon chose Halliburton subsidiary Brown & Root to study the 
cost effectiveness of outsourcing some military operations to 
private contractors. Based on the results of the study, the Pentagon 
hired Brown & Root to implement an outsourcing plan. 
Cheney became Halliburton CEO in 1995.
[..]
libero mercato capitalistico, vedo, ahahahhahahahahahahahaahahhaah
Bye
P.S. per perfezionare i calcoli si puo' usare
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3316403.stm
Last Updated: Saturday, 13 December, 2003, 19:53 GMT  
Pay review for Iraq's new army
The commander of US forces in Iraq, Lieutenant General
Ricardo Sanchez, has said he will look again at the pay
structure of the new Iraqi army. 
[..]
They complained their salaries -starting at about $60 per
month and rising to up to around $180 for a colonel -
were not big enough. 
Tra l'altro sbaglio oppure appare in foto con la fondina
ascellare per una automatica - sono dei *GENI* del marketing!!!
Il capo delle truppe imperiali si presenta armato ad
una conferenza stampa !?!? e perche' non con un salvagente
con su scritto si "salvi chi puo'" ??? 
e per finire una chicca
[..]
The Iraqi army was disbanded after the overthrow of Saddam
Hussein, and the US-led authorities say they are still working
out which of its former members are eligible for pensions. 
e quelli che non riceveranno la pensione cosa fanno?
il tiro al legionario per passare il tempo?
una ricetta per uno stabile iraq, direi. ahahahahahhaha
non preoccupatevi che i miglioramenti arrivano:
http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Dec/12132003/opinion/opinion.asp
questo e' dello Utah (Salt Lake Tribune)
Ghosts of Vietnam 
Here's one way to cut down on the news of those troubling civilian 
deaths in our wars around the globe. Stop counting them. 
The Associated Press reported Wednesday that Iraq's Health Ministry 
has been directed to stop counting civilian casualties caused by 
either side in the ongoing hostilities, and to sit on whatever data 
it has accumulated so far. 
The health minister, part of the U.S.-installed Coalition Provisional 
Authority, denies that any such order was given. But the ministry's 
chief statistician says it was made clear that the CPA doesn't want 
such data to be collected or made public. 
Such denial is apparently not yet policy in Afghanistan, where U.S.
military
spokesmen have 'fessed up to collateral damage measured in the lives 
of 15 children and three adults lost in two attacks in as many days
last week
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Bye
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 been festooned with the sign: "One Weekend A Month My Ass". 
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Vi sono stati interessanti sviluppi in quel di Babilonia,
gli imperiali hanno deciso un tit-for-tat nella distribuzione
degli appalti e lo hanno fatto con la consueta delicatezza,
ovvero nel colpire il bersaglio, presumibilmente FRA & GER,
hanno fatto delle vittime collaterali, e segnatamente il CAN
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3306621.stm
US allies query Iraq contract ban 
Countries set to be excluded from billion-dollar reconstruction 
contracts in Iraq have questioned the logic of a formal ban being 
imposed by the US. 
Old US allies stand to lose contracts because they opposed the US-led war.
France said it was studying the ban's legality and Canada, a substantial 
donor, said it would be hard to justify giving further funds for rebuilding. 
The German Government said that such a ban was "unacceptable" and could 
not be defended on the grounds of security. 
The 26 prime contracts are worth $18.6bn and cover areas such as oil, 
power, communications, water, housing and public works centres. 
[..]
US Deputy Defence Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said in a policy document revealed 
on Tuesday that the contracts were being restricted in order to protect 
America's "essential security interests". 
Prime contracts would, he said, be limited to companies from "the United States,
Iraq, coalition partners and force-contributing nations". 
[..]
In Canada, Deputy Prime Minister John Manley suggested that such a ban would
make it difficult for his country to give further money for Iraqi rebuilding. 
"To exclude Canadians just because they are Canadians would be unacceptable if
they accept funds from Canadian taxpayers for the reconstruction of Iraq," 
he said. 
According to a spokesman for Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien, Canada has
to date contributed more than $190m to the reconstruction effort. 
The biggest contractor in Iraq is Bechtel, the American construction firm that
has an estimated $1bn contract to rebuild Iraq's infrastructure. 
The other major US contractor is Kellogg, Brown & Root (KBR), a subsidiary of
the oilfield services company Halliburton. 
[..]
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/business/3306621.stm
Published: 2003/12/10 14:06:08 GMT
A prescindere dagli "essenziali interessi di sicurezza", una barzelletta
destinata ad oscurare le famose armi di distrazione di massa schierabili
in 45 secondi (o 45 centesimi di secondo, a seconda delle fonti), e 
dalle vocali proteste canadesi, c'e' da stupirsi a vedere da cosa
sono stati banditi gli stati "non-graditi" agli imperiali, ovvero:
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/business/3312015.stm
Published: 2003/12/12 01:57:25 GMT
Oil firm 'overcharged' US in Iraq 
An oil services firm formerly run by US Vice President Dick Cheney may 
have overcharged US forces in Iraq by some $61m, a Pentagon audit has 
found.  The firm, Kellogg, Brown and Root - a subsidiary of Halliburton - 
has denied charging too much for fuel for troops.  
[..]
The Pentagon also said the firm had been planning to charge $67m 
too much for another contract to supply cafeteria services.  
[..]
"I've never seen anything like it in my life" 
Oil economist Phil Verleger  on the Halliburton contract 
[..]
One of them, Henry Waxman of California, reportedly obtained government
documents showing that Halliburton is charging an average of $2.64 per 
gallon to import fuel from Kuwait - more than twice as much as others 
are paying for Kuwaiti fuel. 
The New York Times reported that Halliburton was receiving 26 cents 
a gallon for "overhead and fee," according to the Army Corps of Engineers. 
An oil economist told the newspaper that was "a monopoly premium". 
[..]
evoluzione di questa vicenda:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3312015.stm
Last Updated: Saturday, 13 December, 2003, 00:02 GMT  
Bush warns 'oil overcharge' firm
US President George W Bush says he expects an oil
company once run by his  vice-president to return
money if it has overcharged for services in Iraq. 
Dick Cheney used to head Halliburton, which is under
contract to deliver fuel to the US military in Iraq. 
Pentagon officials will not divulge the amount of money
involved, but correspondents say the figure is around $61m. 
They also said the firm had been planning to charge $67m 
too much for another contract to supply cafeteria services. 
 The officials said KBR was not suspected of having profited
improperly but may have failed to monitor the performance of
its subcontractors. 
e come no, deve esserci un giro di tangenti da far impallidire
la Milano da Bere degli anni '80, spero che a qualcuno in
America gli venga in mente di fare una tabella con tre sole
colonne prima colonna: nome dello staff member della Halliburton;
seconda colonna: automobile posseduta prima della conquista
della Babilonia; terza colonna: automobile posseduta dopo.
Notare che l'Imperatore, che deve conscerli bene i suoi polli,
cosi' si esprime:
"If there is an overcharge, like we think there is, we expect
that money to be repaid," President Bush said. 
che in fondo e' anche indicativo della decadenza del sistema
americano, saranno pure dei tangentari e dei truffatori ma pure
quelli della Halliburton hanno diritto ad un regolare processo,
nel clima di autocrazia regnante nell'Impero la sentenza e' 
invece contenuta nella opinione dell'imperatore - i libertari
americani non hanno piu' occhi per piangere in questo periodo.
La perla finale:
[..]
Some of the fuel payments to Halliburton come out of the
Development Fund for Iraq which is meant to pay for
humanitarian efforts in the country. 
[..]
Vedremo gli sviluppi.
Bye

seren...@my-deja.com
 (serenissima) wrote in message  
[..]
sottothread sulle perdite imperiali in Iraq, accessibile da:
 
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=%20&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_umsgid=%3C6196c429.030...@posting.google.com%3E&lr=&hl=en
 
MARCH- Total 65 - Hostile deaths: 57 Non Hostile deaths: 08 
Note: from March 20 (inzio della campagna babilonese)
APRIL- Total 73 - Hostile deaths: 58 Non Hostile deaths: 15 
Note: 1 May: L'imperatore dichiara chiusa la campagna babilonese
MAY--- Total 37 - Hostile deaths: 07 Non Hostile deaths: 30  
JUNE-- Total 28 - Hostile deaths: 17 Non Hostile deaths: 11 
JULY-- Total 46 - Hostile deaths: 27 Non Hostile deaths: 19 
AUGUST Total*33 - Hostile deaths:*19 Non Hostile deaths:*15
SEPT-- Total*27 - Hostile deaths:*12 Non Hostile deaths:*14
 
TOTALI CUMULATIVI CNN PER SETTEMBRE questi sono quelli corretti
l'asterisco indica un mio errore di trascrizione che non ho
piu' potuto correggere per sparizione della pagina CNN che usavo.
CUMUL. Total309 - Hostile deaths:197 Non Hostile deaths:112
OCT--- Total 42 - Hostile deaths: 33 (secondo me che leggo sulla BBC)
NOVEMB Total 58 - Hostile deaths: direi che e' tempo di lasciar
perdere questa divisione che leggendo sulla BBC trovo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
27 November: A soldier (Task Force All-American) is shot in
his barracks at Ar Ramadi. 26 November: A soldier (101st
Airborne) dies from 'non-hostile' gunshot fire in Mosul. 
Solitamente il non-hostile sono quelli che si suicidano,
vedi altri articoli in questo sottothread, il 27 Nov pero'
mi sfugge. Problemi di disciplina? Discussione degenerata
in sparatoria? Mah!
Fino ad 18 December, 2003, 13:08 GMT  la BBC e' aggiornata con
DEC--- Total (18 Dec) 18
Checksum al 18 pescando con google
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/special_packages/iraq/7518609.htm
Posted on Thu, Dec. 18, 2003	
U.S. Soldier Killed in Ambush in Baghdad
Associated Press
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Guerrillas ambushed a U.S. military patrol with small
arms fire, killing one soldier from the 1st Armored Division and
injuring another, the
[..]
The death brings the number of U.S. soldiers killed in hostile action
to 314. Some 144 died of non-hostile causes, according to the
Pentagon.
314 + 144 = 458, ove il mio totale da invece 427 (%$^!!@) cosa che ha
questo
punto mi fa subdorare che la tabella della CNN la avevano levata in
quanto
bacata - andro' in cerca dei dati ufficiali e li confrontero' con la
BBC
e ripostero' la tabella.
Sempre in tema di conteggi e' interessante questo commento riportato
dal Guardian ove un ministro del cosidetto Labour cosi' si esprime:
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9115,1110123,00.html
[..]
The official response to civilian deaths has long been one of artless
evasion and obfuscation. In September 2003, Adam Ingram, the UK
defence minister, offered the following non sequitur as government
policy: "Through very strict rules of engagement, the use of precision
munitions and the tactical methods employed to liberate Iraq's major
cities, we are satisfied that the coalition did everything possible to
avoid unnecessary casualties. We do not, therefore, propose to
undertake a formal review of Iraqi casualties sustained."
[..]
Preso dall'articolo
We must honour the dead 
Thousands of Iraqi civilians have died as a result of the occupation.
So why is there no official death toll?
John Sloboda 
Friday December 19, 2003
la bottom line e' che i morti iracheni non vanno contati, e non e' un
caso che una simile sconcezza la sostenga il labour, infatti il
socialismo
ha alla base la convinzione che sono dalla parte della ragione a 
prescindere dai fatti (da cui segue la logica evoluzione del
Mascellone)
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 sottothread sulle perdite imperiali in Iraq, accessibile da:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=%20&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_umsgid=%3C6196c429.030...@posting.google.com%3E&lr=&hl=en
Le forze del Mercato sono al lavoro, ovunque.
Questa volta non posto la tabella - per aggiornamenti vedasi comunque
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
per mostrare un interessante esempio di Mercato.
Effettivamente sarebbe fuori luogo pensare che il legionario medio
vada alla conquista della provincia babilonese per democratizzare
il medio oriente o altre baggianate retoriche, il legionario va la'
perche' e' pagato e, se non e' pagato bene, le leggi del Mercato
fanno il loro corso, come mostra bene:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3371225.stm
Last Updated: Tuesday, 6 January, 2004, 17:38 GMT  
US army battles to keep soldiers
The US army is introducing a series of measures to
prevent soldiers serving in Iraq, Kuwait and Afghanistan
from leaving the service. 
Those who were planning to retire or leave in the next few
months will now have to remain with their unit. 
Soldiers whose terms of enlistment have expired will be 
offered up to $10,000 to serve another three years. 
[..]
Ted Carpenter, a defence analyst with the Cato Institute
think tank, said the stop loss decision went against the
concept of volunteer military service. 
"Clearly, if large numbers of personnel have their terms
extended against their will, that violates the principle of
volunteerism," he said. 
[..]
US military officials say re-enlistment bonuses are a common
practice, albeit perhaps not normally involving such large sums. 
The BBC's Chris Hogg, in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad, reports
that US army officers there say that some of their men and
women will be tempted by the offer of extra cash to sign up
for more years in service. 
He says this is in spite of the 20-plus attacks on coalition
forces each day in Iraq. 
Captain Tyrone Simms of the 1st Squadron, 2nd Armoured
Division, told the BBC: "Morale right now is really high, but the
extra money will definitely raise morale." 
infatti, e non dimentichiamo le eroiche kolokoziane che concorrono
al titolo di stakanovista del mese, verrebbe da rispondere
al Capitano Simms - la pagina dei commenti comunque merita,
segnalo quello di Sherry, Northern VA, USA e 
Arthur Belokon, Novorossiysk, Russia ma ve ne sono molti altri
di interessanti.
Last but not least, i bulgari, nonostante il loro leader supremo,
ex-re della stessa se non ricordo male, abbia detto che indietro
non si torna qualche ripensamento ce lo hanno anche.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3373089.stm
Last Updated: Tuesday, 6 January, 2004, 17:26 GMT  
Bulgarian troops reject Iraq duty
More than 40 Bulgarian  soldiers have refused to
serve in Iraq following a suicide attack which killed
five of their compatriots there last month. 
[..]
la parte seguente mostra che nemmeno il comunismo puo'
spezzare lo spirito della negoziazione del singolo
A Bulgarian radio report cited by the AFP news agency said
soldiers going ahead with the mission had demanded a clause
in their contracts stipulating that they can pull out at any
time and return home. 
geniale! Incassare i soldi fino ad un attimo prima che diventi
pericoloso, mi domando quanti altri imperatori prima di Bush
il giovane abbiano avuto simili problemi con truppe mercenarie
aggregate alle loro legioni.
Si vive in tempi postmoderni.
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 are paying for Kuwaiti fuel.   
Attenzione agli sviluppi:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3372351.stm
Last Updated: Tuesday, 6 January, 2004, 11:49 GMT  
Halliburton 'off overcharging hook'
 
A senior US army officer has cleared the American engineering company
Halliburton of any wrongdoing in relation to a contract to deliver 
fuel from Kuwait to Iraq, according to a newspaper report. 
The Wall Street Journal says that the commander of the Army Corps of Engineers,
Lieutenant General Robert Flowers, has exonerated the company's subsidiary
Kellogg Brown & Root after Defense Department officials complained that the
government had been overcharged by $100m. 
The newspaper reports that more junior officers told General Flowers that the
company had provided data to show that fuel was delivered at a fair and
reasonable price. 
Political interest in the US in the allegations of overcharging was heightened
by the fact that Halliburton used to be run by the Vice President, Richard
Cheney. 
Direi una decisione inattaccabile, infatti e' noto che se vi sono
dubbi circa il prezzo di un contratto ci si affida ad una delle parti 
in del contratto stesso... "mi sembra un pochino troppo costoso
questo intonaco, architetto, che ne dice?" "ma no si figuri ho chiesto
alla ditta che lo installa che mi conferma che il prezzo e' quello giusto"...
il Pentagono dovevano farlo rettangolare e a forma di mangiatoia, direi.
ulteriori dettagli surreali..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3375383.stm
Last Updated: Wednesday, 7 January, 2004, 12:24 GMT  
Bechtel gets new $1.8bn Iraq deal 
 
Bechtel's current contract covers Iraq's power systems 
The US has handed out a fresh multi-billion dollar contract 
to two firms to rebuild Iraq's infrastructure. 
Both the firms awarded the $1.8bn deal - Bechtel and Parsons - are already 
on the ground in Iraq. Bechtel's existing deal is worth about $1bn. 
Both are also major donors to the ruling Republican party and 
President George W Bush's 2000 election campaign. 
The Bush administration rejected suggestions that there was a 
connection between donations and deals. 
"This contract and selection was run completely by USAID (the US Agency for
International Development)," said USAID procurement director Tim Beans. 
[..] 
ed infatti i maiali volano.
Bye

 ha scritto nel messaggio
news:6196c429.04010...@posting.google.com...
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Caro Serenissima,
interloquisco solo per comunicarti (anche se probabilmente lo sai già) che,
secondo il "Sole 24 ore" di oggi, la "lista dei primi dieci contratti sarà
pubblicata oggi sul sito 
www.fedbizopps.gov
". Ecco l'art. Shalom.
Namib
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"Sbloccati i primi appalti per l'Irak"
Dal nostro inviato
NEW YORK. Accelera la ricostruzìo­ne dell'Irak. Gli Stati Uniti hanno
sbloccato ieri le prime gare per gli appalti destinati a riparare e
aggiorna­re le infrastrutture del Paese.
E' solo una prirria tranche: 5 miliardi di dollari su un totale di 18,6
miliardi. Riguardano il settore elettrico (circa 1,5 miliardi), i servizi
idrici (1,1 miliar­di), le strutture per sicurezza e giusti­zia (900
milioni) e per trasporti e co­municazioni (400 milioni). La lista dei primi
dieci contratti sarà pubblicata oggi sul sito 
www.fedbizopps.gov
. Le offerte
vanno presentate entro 330 gior­ni, non sarà tollerata corruzione.
Un primo contratto è già stato affida­to. La Bechtel, attiva nel settore
dell'engineering, ha ricevuto un appal­to da 1,8 miliardi per infrastrutture
dopo la precedente commessa, che risa­le addirittura ad aprile, del valore
di un miliardo.
La prossima tranche arriverà dopo il 1° luglio. Quindi dopo l'ínstaurazione
del Governo provvisorio dell'Irak: avrà un valore di circa 7,5 miliardi, e
in buona. parte sarà destinata a forze armate, polizia e sistema giudiziario
per assistere l'esecutivo nei suoi nuovi compiti. Alla democracy building,
l'istituzione della democrazia, saranno
inoltre destinati circa 400 milioni, per finanziare elezioni e governi
locali. La parte finale del pacchetto approvato dal Congresso, circa 5,8
miliardi, sarà infine "spesa" l'anno prossimo.
Si è quindi sbloccato il contestato programma del Pentagono. Il
diparti­mento della Difesa di Washington ha ammesso agli appalti solo i
Paesi che hanno sostenuto la decisione america­na di combattere in Irak:
sono quindi escluse dalle gare le aziende di Cana­da, Francia, Germania e
Russia che potranno aspirare solo a subappalti. Le
polemiche per questa scelta non soi mancate, anche perché la decisione ha
coinciso con la richiesta, diretta soprattutto a Parigi e Mosca, di ridurre
i debiti dell'Irak.
Il ritardo non è legato a queste dispute, ha però spiegato il Pentagono.
Washington ha deciso di far slittare maggior parte degli appalti dopo il
luglio, e ha quindi dovuto modificare molti contratti. Con il trasferimento
dei poteri in estate, ha spiegato il responsabile del programma del
Pentagono, l'ammiraglio David Nash, «volevamo essere sicuri che tutto fosse
a posto prima di andare avanti: si tratta di un sacco di soldi»,
Resta aperto il dossier più delicato, quello del petrolio. Due miliardi di
dollari, non compresi nel pacchetto da 18,6 miliardi, finanzieranno
l'appalto per le riparazioni degli impianti esi­stenti finora affidate alla
Halliburton, la compagnia guidata in passato dal vicepresidente Usa Dick
Cheney. L'ass­egnazione avrà luogo entro la fine della settimana prossima.
Poi occorrer­à definire l'assegnazione delle licenze di estrazione. A
Baghdad e a Washin­aton, secondo il Wall Street Jour­nal, si sta facendo
strada l'ipotesi di affidare tutte le attività a una compa­gnia statale per
evitare l'irritazione dell'opinione pubblica. La presenza di grandi gruppi
esteri potrebbe essere vista come un'interferenza straniera.
Anche il mercato al consumo irache­no suscita interesse: la Pepsi Cola ha
annunciato ieri che riprenderà presto a produrre e vendere le Proprie bibite
nel Paese.

 vanno presentate entro 330 gior–ni, non sarà tollerata corruzione.
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devo ricordarmi di postare l'interessante seguito della saga della
telefonia mobile in Babilonia al riguardo.
Vi e' anche il sito 
www.rebuild-iraq-expo.com
 lo ho trovato sull'IHT del
5 January 2004 che, nell'articolo, "Kurds:US allow region to retain
autonomy" (a proposito, bel flashpoint, che hanno cominciato a sparare
su Turcomanni e Sunni nel quadro degli scontri per il controllo del
petrolio della zona) c'e' un notevole "contrordine compagni" lanciato
dal proconsole imperiale in babilonia "last summer, L. Paul Bremer 3rd
(non scherzo, il nome lo si trova scritto cosi') said at an economic forum
in Jordan that Iraq would soon start privatizing more than 40 government-owned
companies. "everybody knows we cannot wait until there is an elected
government hre to start economic reform" he said.
Now Bremer says repeatedely that such decision must await Iraqi self-rule"
(l'articolo, preso dall' IHT e contrassegnato NYT).
Altro IHT notabile e' quello del 2 January 2004 che in prima pagina 
ha una foto di (da sinistra a destra) legionario imperiale trascinanate
per un braccio babilonese con il sacco in testa - procedura
imperiale quando fanno prigionieri - in leggero secondo piano donna
con velo seduta sul letto che guarda la scena.
Questa belle scenetta adorna l'articolo 
"In Iraq's shadows, U.S. snipers" in cui un legionario della specialita'
tiratori scelti cosi' si esprime il Sergeant Randy Davis 25enne di
Murffreesboro Tennesse "as soon as thez picked up a weapon and tried to engage
a US soldier, they forfaited all theris rights to life, is how I look
at it" - codesto demente in altro punto dell'articolo risponde anche alla
domanda 'would they ever shoot a child who targeted them?' con
"I'd shoot him, otherwise he'd shoot me. But I wouldn't
feel good about it". La parte umoristica dell'articolo e' che si premurano
di dire che gli sniper li selezionano psicologicamente per evitare
di avere dei pazzi in divisa, a sentire le interviste viene da domandarsi
come erano quelli che hanno scartato.
Ah, l'IHT di questo giorno e' anche notabile per l'articolo
"US considered seizing Arab oil fields" nel 1973.... per gogglare
Dec 12, 1973 "U.K. Eyes Alpha" Prime Minister Edward Heath
author Percy Cradock head of Joint Intelligence committe
Last but not least, sempre sullo stesso numero, devono essere diventai
postomoderni pure all'IHT che a pagina 7 il liberto Colin Powell, legato
imperiale, presenta la "America's agenda for freedom in 2004", in cui dice
"We resolve, of course, to expand freedom and we are focused in particular
on Afghanistan and Iraq" [..] "while our effort in Af. and Iraq will continue
in 2004, we ae resolved as well to turn the president's goal of free 
and democratc Middle east into a reality"
Cosi' il primo liberto imperiale al 7 gennaio dell'A.D. 2004.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3386075.stm
Last Updated: Saturday, 10 January, 2004, 17:18 GMT  
'Six killed' in Iraq jobs protest
At least six people were killed when Iraqi police and
coalition troops fired at a demonstration over jobs in
Amarah, southern Iraq, hospital officials said. 
Coalition officials confirmed the clash took place but reported
only one death. 
A US military spokesman said the man who died had been
throwing grenades before he was shot, but demonstrators
have denied this. 
[..]
Earlier, US soldiers shot and killed two Iraqi police officers
after intervening in an apparent family feud in the northern
city of Kirkuk. 
A military spokesman said the Iraqi men did not identify
themselves to the patrol, despite repeated requests and
the firing of warning shots. 
[..]
"Expand freedom" e meno male che sono "focused", pensa te se non
lo fossero..
Bye

 US army battles to keep soldiers
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 > vanno presentate entro 330 gior-ni, non sarà tollerata corruzione.
Erratum corrigo: i giorni sono ovviamente 30, s'intende... Shalom.
Namib

>>>  
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
 
il sito citato prima linka anche questo
http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx
che mostra una tabella con anche le medie, quella totale
e' di 1.95 morti "ufficiali" al giorno tra le legioni
e le truppe dei vassalli. Il sito e' interessante che 
vi e' anche un riassunto a parte per i vassalli:
* Other - Polish: 2 
* Other - Danish: 1 
* Other - Spanish: 10 
* Other - Italian: 17 
* Other - Ukrainian: 3 
* Other - Bulgarian: 5 
[per inciso i Bulgari sono pagati 60 $/day, almeno secondo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3357287.stm
 ] 
* Other - Thai: 2 
per inciso cercando in rete si trova anche la notizia 
di un Albanese che per ragioni che non comprendo non
compare piu' nei conteggi (ferito? morto? non conteggiato? mah!)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Albanian+Mosul+grenade+BBC
lo zapping in rete alla ricerca di notizie sulla Babilonia da
luogo ad effetti surreali, che uno puo' avere due finestre
aperte cosi' congegnate:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3421255.stm
Last Updated: Thursday, 22 January, 2004, 19:35 GMT  
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Saddam fighters 'on their knees'
A top American general in Iraq says the US army has
brought supporters of Saddam Hussein "to their knees". 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3425507.stm
Last Updated: Saturday, 24 January, 2004, 17:15 GMT  
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Iraq attacks cause fresh carnage
Five US soldiers have been killed and several others
wounded in two separate attacks in Iraq, US officials say. 
che viene da dire che forse erano in ginocchio per prendere
meglio la mira, questo top generale imperiali va comunque
ricordato che, in data appunto 22 Jan 2004, ha detto:
[..]
Major General Raymond Odierno also said he thought there
would be a return to "some normalcy" within six months. 
[..]
da ridiscutere al 22 Luglio 2004, dunque.
Le attualita', tipo,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3425061.stm
Last Updated: Friday, 23 January, 2004, 21:43 GMT  
 Two die as US helicopter crashes
Two US pilots died on Friday when their helicopter
crashed in northern Iraq, the US military has said. 
non devo far perdere di vista quello che e' il motore
ideologico imperiale, una tendenza alla egemonia accompagnata
da un livello culturale tale da far si  che si stenta 
a credere al livello di bueate, dette comunque in tono 
serissimo, che tocca leggere:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3425285.stm
Last Updated: Saturday, 24 January, 2004, 15:12 GMT  
US seeks allies for war on terror
US Vice-President Dick Cheney has urged European
nations to do more to support global democracy
and defeat terrorism. 
He said Europe was key to  promoting freedoms in the
Middle East which could remove the root cause of terrorism. 
But he told business and political leaders that nations
had to be prepared to send troops if persuasion failed. 
[..]
 "We must confront the ideologies of violence at the source,
 by promoting democracy throughout the greater Middle East
and beyond," he said. 
[..]
quello che sconvolge di piu' di questo ossimoro e' che la
platea di, evidentemente belanti, "giornalisti" non abbia
reagito con appropriato lancio di ortaggi.
Comunque sono giunto alla conclusione che tale inclinazione
imperiale all'uso delle armi e' dovuto anche al fatto che
hanno avuto un numero di perdite finora negligible,
curiosando nel pentagono ho trovato (MIA vuol dire che manca il
cadavere)
http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2004/nr20040109-0861.html
[..]
Of the 88,000 Americans missing in action from all conflicts, 
1,871 are from the Vietnam War.
Ci vuole una Stalingrado od un Verdun scolpita nella memoria
storica nazionale per capire il modello Europeo di relazioni
internazionali (l'Italia a questo fine non conta che la
memoria storica nazionale si ferma all'inizio dell'ultimo
campionato di calcio) - notare che il discorso lo farei
anche sui KIA solo che la url riportava solo i MIA.
Bye
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...
 sottothread sulle perdite imperiali in Iraq, accessibile da:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=%20&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_umsgid=%3C6196c429.030...@posting.google.com%3E&lr=&hl=en
gennaio e' finito ed e' tempo di bilanci, secondo la tabella di
http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx
Gennaio e' equivalente a Dicembre  
(totali per imperiali e vassali, il sito da i dati in dettaglio)
04-Gennaio 	 48
03-Dicembre	 48
03-Novembre 	109
03-Ottobre	 45
03-Settembre	 33
03-Agosto		 43
03-Luglio		 47
03-Giugno		 35
03-Maggio		 41
03-Aprile		 79
03-Marzo*		 92 
*(dall'inizio della campagna di annessione della nuovo provincia)
e' interessante notare una cosa che io almeno, consultando sempre
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3019552.stm
non avevo notato, ovvero che le truppe dei vassalli inglesi
hanno avuto almeno un morto al mese (tranne che in dicembre).
Ovviamente la pagina della BBC si chiama "timeline of US losses"
peccato che manchi una timeline delle perdite totali.
Beh, supperiscono siti come lunaville.
In ogni caso, in omaggio alle truppe cola" inviate da Tony "Poddle" 
Blair ecco una citazione che ritengo interessante:
"The people of England have been led in Mesopotamia into a trap
from which it will be hard to escape with dignity and honour.
They have been tricked into it by a steady witholding of information"
questo e' un inizio di articolo dell' Sunday Times ed e' scritto nel
metto i puntini per migliorare l'effetto
....
22 Agosto
....
di che anno?
....
continuare a scrollare 
....
e' stato pubblicato nel 22 Agosto 1920 da ...
....
....
provate un po' a pensare a chi lo possa aver scritto..
....
....
T.E. Lawrence (!)
.....
.....
piu' noto come Lawrence d'Arabia
la quote e' presa dal "Lawrence's 1920 report eerily topical" 
articolo pubblicato nel June 30 2003 dal financial times (page 3)
sullo stesso FT a pagina 13 ci stava "america must avoid the
Chechnya trap" "the US still has a chance to convince the Iraqis that
the coalition administration will be good for them and
for their nation" (June 30, 2003)
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http://groups.google.com/groups?as_epq=%20&safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_umsgid=%3C6196c429.030...@posting.google.com%3E&lr=&hl=en
 
http://www.g2mil.com/Mar2004.htm
riportava il link a
Official Iraq War Casualty Stats (pdf) - from the Pentagon
http://www.dior.whs.mil/mmid/casualty/OIF-Total.pdf
ed anche
Pentagon hiding reality of toll from war in Iraq - Senator's request
denied
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion/content/auto/epaper/editions/sunday/opinion_04a18dbd454ca0b51081.html
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http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion/content/auto/epaper/editions/sunday/opinion_04a18dbd454ca0b51081.html
riporta una cosa assi significativa:
The ratio of wounded to dead -- about 6-to-1 -- is the encouraging
news. In the Korean War, for example, it was 3-to-1, and in the Civil
War 2-to-1. The improvement comes from the protective body armor
modern soldiers wear, the efforts of field commanders to minimize
casualties and great advances in battlefield hospital care. Soldiers
who would have bled to death in Korea routinely are saved.
The discouraging news is that a higher percentage of those surviving
wounds will live out their days with severe disfigurements or
disabilities. The nature of warfare in Iraq -- especially vehicle
bombings and guerrilla attacks -- have produced large numbers of
horrific burns and amputations that cannot be repaired.
credo che fin ad oggi non sia stata pubblicata una statistica
riportante il grado di invalidita' riportato da 5,156 feriti.
Last but not least suggerisco di leggere
"the body count" sottotitolo Still steadiliy going up sull'Economist
del 14th 2004 in cui racconta di un metodo interessante per 
massaggiare le cifre delle perdite imperiali, infatti:
"moreover the American and the British Armies have hived
off a lot of dangerous jobs (driving military vehicles, for istance)
TO CONTRACT WORKERS, MOSTLY ASIANS, WHOSE DEATHS RARELY GET LISTED."
poi dei fessi alla Blair  pretendono anche di essere creduti
quando vengono a raccontare di quanto buoni essi siano e di quale
ventata di valori democratici etc.. etc.. siano essi portatori,
per un fantastico esempio dei veri valori della civilta' occidentale
vedasi 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3492146.stm
e i rantoli di BLiar sulla parte di politica interna della BBC.
nonostante l'accorgimento di mandare degli spendibili negracci o
musi gialli o quant'altro in prima linea (tanto puzzano e poi
non guardano la CNN e non votano per la coppia Bush & Blair - ovvero 
non sono imparentati con qualcuno che sta a casa nel territorio
metropolitano
dell'impero, che si scoccia che il parente non torna dalla campagna
Babilonese) viene occasionalmente sparso anche del sangue dell'uomo
bianco,
non e' stata ancora rivelata la nazionalita' del Buana ucciso pero'
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3519609.stm
Last Updated: Sunday, 29 February, 2004, 10:26 GMT  
Soldier killed in Baghdad
[..]
He was the first coalition soldier to be killed by hostile fire in
Iraq for 10 days.
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