Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: 'Cazzo come hanno imparato bene!

Noi siamo li per portare la pace... nelle operazioni militari a volte
ci scappa qualche vittima civile...
Non volevamo la guerra ma con questi non si puo' parlare, siamo stati
costretti...
L'ambasciatore Russo parla con la stampa Israeliana.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3581049,00.html
In war civilians get hurt – like in Gaza'
Russian Chargé D’affaires in Tel Aviv sits down with Ynet to explain
his country's military objectives in Georgia: 'We're only there to
push the Georgian army out of the region. We have no plans to annex
South Ossetia.' As for civilian casualties, says Dr. Yurkov,
'sometimes civilians get hurt in war, just like in Israeli operations
in Gaza'
Dana Zimmerman
Published: 	08.11.08, 18:54 / Israel News
"Russia will halt its military operation once the Georgians are pushed
out of South Ossetia," the Russian Embassy's Chargé D’affaires in Tel
Aviv, Dr. Anatoly Yurkov told Ynet on Monday afternoon.
"Russia has no interest in taking over South Ossetia – and certainly
none in invading Georgia-proper," Yurkov said, adding that Russia had
not prepared for a military conflict of any sort with Georgia, and was
forcibly dragged into one.
"Georgia is the one that primed itself for war, we did not prepare in
advance but had to get involved in this conflict to protect the
Russian observers, who are spread out in the region under the 1999
agreement in order to watch over the local population and prevent
genocide."
Yurkov stressed that 15 Russian observers were killed in the first
hours of the clashes on Friday morning.
"Our observers were the first to come under attack. We had to protect
them, and of course prevent a humanitarian disaster in South Ossetia,
prevent a future genocide. You must remember that there are Ossetians
living in Russia as well, we have a moral obligation towards them," he
said.
"We didn't arm them. The South Ossentians armed themselves. It's very
hard to control the arms smuggling into the region. While our
observers do have a mandate to act in South Ossetia, but it is not
unlimited power. Just as the UNIFIL force is unable to thwart the arms
smuggling in southern Lebanon."
Yurkov says Russia is intent merely on restoring the situation to the
status quo of August 6th. "We are only there to push the Georgian army
out. We have no plans to annex South Ossetia or Abkhazia. Like the
rest of the world, we do not recognize these two districts'
declarations of independence. We want to see Georgia's territorial
integrity preserved – and we have no intention of overthrowing
President Mikheil Saakashvili."
If that is the case, then why did Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov
demand the president be replaced?
"We are not demanding that he be replaced, we simply think he is
ineligible. But we have no plans to take any action towards this end.
Obviously we will not march into Tbilisi and forcibly overthrow him."
Yurkov denies Russia has used excessive force in Georgia. "I myself am
not a military man. It is difficult for me to evaluate the extent of
our response. But it is important to emphasize that we did not
initiate this, we were dragged into it. Our airstrikes in Georgia have
only targeted military bases and military targets, to avoid any
further attacks on our troops."
President Saakashvili said today that 90 percent of the Georgian
casualties are civilians.
"Our goal was not to harm civilians, and to the best of my knowledge,
we only hit military installations. But like they say, war is war –
and it could be that civilians were hurt, this also happens in
Israel's military operations in Gaza, for example. Unfortunately, in
ethnic conflicts there are no winners, only losers."
 Yurkov said Russia has set two preconditions to the cessation of
hostilities. "First, before we can begin negotiations, we demand
Georgia's full withdrawal from South Ossetia. We demand Tbilisi commit
on paper that it has no future intention to recapture the separatist
districts."
Abkhazians understand that if Georgia invaded South Ossetia, they are
next, and they announced that they would launch a military operation
against the Georgian enclave of Kodori. Our increased presence there
is designed to ensure the situation doesn't deteriorate there."
Yurkov added that Georgia "greatly appreciates" the statement released
on Sunday by the Israeli Foreign Affairs Ministry on the crisis. "It
was brief and to the point. In its principle points, there is no
disparity between the Israeli position and Russia's in this conflict.
We all want it to end, us more than others. After all, it is our
soldiers who are being killed."

 Obviously we will not march into Tbilisi and forcibly overthrow him."
Stranamente si afferma che armate russe stiano invece marciando proprio
in direzione di Tbilisi :)
-Stefano

 in direzione di Tbilisi :)
lo afferma quel cialtrone di Sakasvili che lo dice fin dal primo
giorno di guerra, ergo non è credibile

 Secondo i Georgiani sono a 15km da essa:
secondo gli stessi georgiani che parlavano di Tbilisi bombardata fin
dal primo giorno quando tutti gli italiani in loco dicevano che sono
stati evacuati (3 giorni dopo) senza che fosse caduta una sola bomba?
Molto credibili, direi...

 wrote:
"Secondo fonti georgiana a Roma, i carri armati di Mosca sono arrivati
a 15 chilometri dalla capitale Tbilisi, hanno occupato Gori"
due righe dopo:
"I frequenti allarmi aerei hanno interrotto anche l'incontro del
presidente georgiano con il ministro degli Esteri francese Bernard
Kouchner, in missione per conto dell'Ue. Entrambi sono stati
allontanati d'urgenza da Gori a causa della presenza sospetta di un
elicottero che sorvolava la città."
ma Gori non è occupata dai russi? Con UN elicottero? AHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
IMBECILLI!