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Titolo: Le reazioni di tutti i Libanesi che ti aspetti

http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2006/07/so-what-do-lebanese-really-think-now.html
We have at least a survey of Lebanese public opinion. It was conducted
by the reliable Bayrut li-d-Dirasat (and I thank `Abduh and Amal for
sharing the unpublished results with me). These are some of the
highlights: 70 % support the capture of the two Israeli soldiers (73.1
among Sunnis, 96.3 among Shi`ites, 40% among Druzes, and 55 among
Christians); 87% support that "the resistance fight Israeli aggression
on Lebanon" (88.9 among Sunnis, 96.3 among Shi`ites, 80% among Druzes,
and 80% among Christians); 8% think that America adopted a positive
position toward Lebanon during this war (7.9% among Sunnis, 4 among
Shi`ites, 13.6 among Druzes, and 15 among Christians).
PS Sample size is 800. The overwhelming majority were face- to -face
interviews (including all displaced individuals)

 Christians); 
Anche il governo libanese appoggia il rapimento dei soldati israeliani?
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Enrico C
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http://www.lillathedog.net/icling/dizionari_inglese.html

 Anche il governo libanese appoggia il rapimento dei soldati israeliani?
Non si sa.
Ma Nasrallah aveva informato alcuni esponenti del governo delle sue
intenzioni (ovviamente non con date e luoghi) di rapire dei soldati
per degli scambi di prigionieri (e dice di avere le registrazioni).
Mirco

 per degli scambi di prigionieri (e dice di avere le registrazioni).
In punta di diritto, che validità ha il discorso di Israele di considerare 
il Libano responsabile per le azioni di Hezbollah?
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 il Libano responsabile per le azioni di Hezbollah?
Il Libano è ancora in guerra con Israele dal 1948, quindi ha tutti i
motivi per attaccare.
Nasrallah ha comunicato ad esponenti del governo non della sua fazione
di avere intenzione di rapire soldati israeliani per scambiarli con
prigionieri libanesi. Quindi erano complici, dato che non solo non
hanno avvisato gli israeliani, ne hanno tentato di fermare Nasrallah
con ogni mezzo disponibile, ne hanno protestato pubblicamente contro
Nasrallah e lo hanno sconfessato ed isolato.
Uno stato è sovrano e responsabile di quello che accade dentro i suoi
confini. Se da li parte un attacco ad un'altro stato (o c'è una
minaccia grave di un attacco), l'attaccato ha tutto il diritto di
compiere ogni genere di azione che faccia terminare il pericolo.
Le conseguenze e la colpa ricadono su chi ha iniziato l'aggressione e
su chi non l'ha contrastata.
Mirco

 We have at least a survey of Lebanese public opinion.
Piu' dettagli.  Da quel nido di anti-Americani dell'Universita'
AMERICANA di Beirut.
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2006/806/op33.htm
Public opinion in Lebanon overwhelmingly rejects US-Israeli plans for
cleansing Lebanon of Hizbullah, writes Amal Saad-Ghorayeb*
The latest Israeli massacre at Qana of 60 civilians, over half of whom
were children, will only reinforce the shift in Lebanese public
sentiment towards Hizbullah, as revealed in the first poll conducted
since fighting began 12 July. The Beirut Centre for Research and
Information (BCRI), along with myself, conducted a survey to gauge the
Lebanese people's views of the main actors and events in the ongoing
conflict. The survey's findings suggest that the Bush administration
has to seriously rethink its pitiful attempt to frame the US's
unbridled support for the Israeli onslaught against Lebanon as part of
both its democracy and "war on terror" agendas, as exemplified by
Bush's recent contention that, "Hizbullah ... are willing to kill and
to use violence to stop the spread of peace and democracy," and his
framing of the conflict as "part of a larger struggle between the
forces of freedom and the forces of terror in the Middle East". Such
crude casuistry falls far out of step with Arab mainstream opinion, as
revealed in poll statistics, which shows that Hizbullah's resistance
has unprecedented popular support in Lebanon while the US has lost all
credibility as a peacemaker amongst the Lebanese.
Of the 800 respondents polled throughout Lebanon, including the
displaced, 87 per cent claimed they supported Hizbullah's "resistance
to Israeli aggression", with 80 per cent of all Christians and Druze,
89 per cent of all Sunnis and 96 per cent of all Shias declaring their
support. These findings are all the more significant when compared to
the results of a similar survey conducted just five months ago, which
showed that only 58 per cent of all Lebanese believed Hizbullah had the
right to remain armed, and hence, continue its resistance activity. In
effect, Israel's aggression against Lebanon has had the unintended
consequence of increasing nationwide support for the resistance, which
it would not have otherwise enjoyed. Thanks to the high death toll,
with close to one quarter on the population displaced, and the colossal
material destruction of the economy wreaked by Israel's war machine,
Hizbullah's "logic of resistance" and deterrence has been both
vindicated and demonstrated. It has stepped in to fill the huge
political and military vacuum left by the state, the resistance's
ongoing counter-attacks paralysing Israel on the ground. The Lebanese
reject the self- designated role that US and Israeli officials have
taken on as spokespersons for the Lebanese, along with their purported
favour of ridding the Lebanese, once and for all, of Hizbullah.
One can further extrapolate from these findings that Hizbullah is less
likely seen as constituting the underlying "root" or cause of the
conflict -- which needs to be removed, as Bush and Blair have been
reiterating -- but rather, its effect. In other words, Hizbullah, which
owes its creation to the Israeli invasion of 1982, is the result of
Israel's predatory behaviour and war-mongering, not the reverse.
Tackling the roots of the problem therefore lies in pressuring Israel
to accept a comprehensive and just regional peace agreement, not in
destroying Hizbullah.
Of further interest is the fact that although in the early days of the
Israeli assault there was a backlash among non-Shias against Hizbullah
for provoking Israel's wrath by capturing two Israeli soldiers, by the
time the survey was distributed (between 24 and 25 July), 70 per cent
of Lebanese affirmed they approved of Hizbullah's attempt to retrieve
Lebanese prisoners in this manner. This shift in perception and
blame-apportioning can be attributed to the growing realisation that
Israel's reaction was driven less by the capture of two soldiers than
by a premeditated plan to eliminate Hizbullah, supported by the US.
Hassan Nasrallah's recent assertion that Hizbullah uncovered -- most
likely from the scores of collaborators now in custody -- that Israel
had been preparing for invasion in September or October, will only lend
further credence to such convictions. In short, the notion of a
"miscalculation" on Hizbullah's part has given way to the impression
that it was Israel who overplayed its hand and fell into a trap of its
own making, goaded to do so by the US -- from which it cannot escape
without a loss of face.
The notion that the US is complicit in Israel's war crimes against the
Lebanese people is evinced by 89.5 per cent of the sample who reject
any suggestion that it is an "honest broker" in the current conflict.
An identical number did not regard America's stand vis-à-vis Lebanon
as being "positive". The fact that 94 per cent of Shias hold these
views should not be taken lightly, given their unwavering support for
the resistance coupled with their unparalleled group cohesion, sense of
embattlement and political alienation engendered by Israel's scorched
earth policy and the US's perceived encouragement of it, most
especially following its recent shipment of precision guided missiles
to Israel. That the overwhelming majority of Druze, Sunnis and
Christians share these views of the US should be worrisome for the Bush
administration insofar as members of these communities launched the
much-vaunted "Cedar revolution". Compared to the far more favourable
image these communities had of America's Lebanon role only seven months
ago, rising anti-American sentiment becomes readily apparent.
For the vast majority of Lebanese, the US's insistence on "creating the
conditions for a sustainable ceasefire", has become nothing more than a
euphemism for giving Israel the green light to continue its violent and
indiscriminate rampage against Hizbullah and much of Lebanon. An
Israeli official's recent assertion that the US's refusal to call for
an immediate ceasefire at the Rome conference amounted to "an
authorisation to continue our operations until Hizbullah is no longer
present in southern Lebanon," will only reinforce this sentiment.
Many Lebanese have gone beyond viewing the US as having merely abetted
Israel in its onslaught, now seeing it as having orchestrated the
entire military expedition in light of their awareness of the US's
adoption of Israel's war on Hizbullah as part of a broader regional
agenda. Under the aegis of its "war on terror", the US has made no
secret of its desire to weaken Iran and Syria -- indeed all regional
actors who refuse to acquiesce to the US-Israeli agenda. Talk by US
officials of turning the Lebanon crisis into an "opportunity" to forge
a "New Middle East", the "birth pangs" of which the Lebanese are
supposedly witnessing, has not been taken well by the majority of
Lebanese who do not relish the prospect of the transformation of their
country into a battleground from which the US aspires to redraw the
political map of the region. With Bush's brazenly neo-Orientalist
mindset all too clear -- as expressed in his conviction that "what's
right is not necessarily what appears to be immediately popular" -- it
does not appear as though the US cares much for what the Lebanese think
or feel, nor does it believe that they are rational or politically
mature enough to make their own choices. Like their predecessors in
Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine, the Lebanese are starting to equate
the US's suffocating desire to bring them "freedom" with the kiss of
death.
* The writer is assistant professor of political science at The
Lebanese-American University.

 AMERICANA di Beirut.
Purtroppo hai ragione.
Tb