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Titolo: Still Waters in Gaza

Still Waters in Gaza 
 
by Mohammed Omer 
GAZA CITY - It's been strangely quiet for some time at the port in Gaza.
No clanging of hooks, no sounds of creaking cranes or of thumping of nets
upon decks. Boat engines, normally puttering and spewing exhaust, lie
entombed under covers.
Of the 40,000 fishermen and others who make a living from the catch, only
about 700 are still busy, according to the Fishing Syndicate in Gaza. The
boats need oil, and Israel will not let the fishermen have it. 
"Gaza's 3,000 fishermen need about 40,000 liters of fuel and 40,000 liters
of natural gas a day to operate for this season from March until the end
of May," says Nizar Ayash, director of the Fishing Syndicate. Now they get
almost nothing. 
Jamal al-Assi, 37, attempts to look busy around his idle boat. "My boat
feeds 11 families," he says. "What are we going to do? There is no hope
when there is no fuel. We can't work." 
"I have been laid off work for nearly two months due to shortage of fuel,"
says Nasser al-Amodi, 49, one of Gaza's oldest fishermen. He began his
career at age nine, working alongside his father. Later he inherited the
business. 
Nasser, father of five, had hoped one day to pass the business on to his
children. But now, as he does his bit to maintain his gear, he is not so
sure. Seventy people, including the families of his brother and crew, have
lost income as a result of the blockade. 
"If any of my equipment breaks down or is lost, I can't afford to replace
it, not only because it isn't available but because the price is double
what it would normally be." 
Nasser and his family live in al-Shati refugee camp, one of Gaza's oldest
and most crowded refugee camps. An experienced fisherman, Nasser has all
his life taken up a profession considered by many the most dangerous in
the world, and for Gaza fishermen made more so by Israeli incursions and
the siege. 
Israel limits Palestinian fishing to six miles from shore. "But sometimes
we're not even three miles out when the Israelis chase us away," says
Ayash. 
"We fishermen are part of the people, meaning whatever happens to Gaza's
people happens to us," he says. "But we will make our voices heard around
the world until our suffering ends." 
And so fishermen suffer like the others. The scarcity of fuel has hit all
sections of Gaza society. Vehicles, including ambulances, cannot run,
goods cannot reach their destination, and those that do are priced out of
reach. 
The Palestinian Petrol Station Owners Association continues to demand fuel
allotment from Israeli authorities to support the basic needs of Gaza's
1.5 million people. Israeli authorities permit fuel primarily for the
electricity generation plant. 
Despite Israel's highly publicized "withdrawal" of its illegal colonies in
2005, Gaza remains under virtual occupation through the siege, with its
airport, borders, and seashore controlled by Israel. Israel controls also
the airspace over Gaza and the lifelines to its economy. All imports and
exports, including food, medicine, equipment, and fuel are controlled
through the Nahal Ozz crossing. 
International and Israeli human rights organizations have been urging
Israel to resume fuel deliveries into the Gaza Strip. 
"The current situation is a threat to the health and well-being of the
population of the Gaza Strip," says a joint statement signed by eight UN
bodies. "The work of the United Nations organizations in Gaza has been
severely hampered [by the fuel shortage] affecting schools, health
facilities, and food distribution."
 
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hi Sergio,
since it looks as if you're pretty well informed on the subject i'd
like to ask you a question that's been bugging me for some time. I'm
interested in the history of Palestine and the Israel-Palestine
conflict. i've been checking out few groups to scan for opinions on
the subject and, as you may expect, there are plenty of contrasting
opinions.
Now, my question is specific to the refugees' camps. Someone in some
group a couple of days ago (presumably from the Israel far right) had
a go at the refugees' camp in the sense that he was saying that the
reason of their existence was to blame on teh Arab themselves, in
particular on the "guest" countries that hadn't integrated the
population living in the camps in their society.
someone else mentioned that having conducted few interviews in the
camps, the general opinon was of enmity towards the Arabs communities
rather than Israel for having "tricked" them into leaving their homes
in 1948.... I'm confused.
can you tell me what your angle is on this? What do you think is the
reason for the camps to exist after 60 years? what has prevented the
refugees from integrating in Lebanon, Syria, Giordania etc? who's
interest is it that is keeping the camps a reality after all these
years???
if you don't want to answer i'd appreciate if you could point me in
the right direction, maybe some reading that may help in on the
subject.
thank you for taking the time to go through my email, and
congratulations on the nice piece you wrote
all the best
Sergio (yep, another one...;-)

 years???
che strano, sembra di sentire le cazzate di nahum, anzi, vista la
lingua, the nahum's bullshit!

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hey giovanni smarty pants!!! thank you for your valid contribution to
this post. I believe you may have read too quickly for your eyes,
otherwise you would have noticed that mine was a simple question, a
mere request for an opinion. not a statement of any kind or sort.
come on Giovanni, enlighten us!!! share your wisdom with us poor
mortals. can you answer a question? or is it too much to ask of you??
what do you think about the refugees camps and why you think they are
still there after 60 years?
if it's too much to ask then don't worry, i'm sure i can find someone
else
thank you in advance to dedicate few minutes of your life to read my
post.
ulysses

 hey giovanni smarty pants!!!
non capisco perchè sto cretino continua a scrivere in inglese se
capisce benissimo l'italiano...

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i see - you can't answer. that's what i thought.
have a nice life smarty pants!

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no, non voglio rispondere. Almeno finchè non mi spiegherai perchè
continui a parlare inglese su un ng italiano se capisci l'italiano
benissimo. Ho dei sospetti che tengo per me, per ora...

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ma l'articolo non era in inglese???? che differenza fa se scrivo in
italiano o in inglese visto che se hai letto l'articolo capisci
l'inglese? mah...
allora questa risposta??? in italiano, inglese o come ti pare???

good night and good luck!

 good night and good luck!
same to you darling. it's been an honour
;-)

 allora questa risposta?
presto detto...se tu mi cacci da casa mia la colpa è tua e non dei
miei parenti o amici che non mi ospitano in casa loro.

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oh.. finalmente...
siamo (quasi) pienamente d'accordo. la colpa e' mia se ti caccio (o se
ti "invito" ad andar via minacciandoti di farti fare la fine degli
abitanti di Deir Yassin...). ma se i miei parenti/amici mi fanno
dormire in una tenda in giardino, dopo 60 non gli do le colpe del mio
esilio ma magari m'incazzo un po anche con loro...

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il che non cambia di una virgola il fatto che sei tu ad avermi
cacciato da casa mia...

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e ri-siamo d'accordo... ma you're missing the point... azzo...!!!
i miei dubbi vengono allorche' leggo quello che i rifugiati stessi
dicono a proposito di chi considerano colpevoli della loro assurda
situazione. e' proprio per questo che ho chiesto opinioni in
proposito. c'e' un opinione abbastanza diffusa fra i rifugiati che il
loro nemico numero 1 non sia Israele ma bensi' gli arabi che li hanno
"traditi". e fra questi Arafat, come citato da Robert Frisk nel suo
ultimo libro
non c'e' nessun dubbio su chi abbia le colpe. se gli israeliani stessi
lo sanno da 60 anni:
      “If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with
Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God
promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not
theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz,
but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we
have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”
sai chi l'ha detto???? propio Ben-Gurion, leader laburista e primo
ministro ai tempi della guerra del '48.
purtroppo, e' chiaro che i rifugiati non torneranno mai nella loro
terra visto che nel frattempo e' stata occupata, venduta, ri-costruita
etc. e finche' estistera' l'America continueranno ad estistere i
territori occupati. quindi mi chiedo, ma mentre ci si interroga e si
lotta e si manifesta per la creazione di uno stato palestinese
indipendente da Israele, davvero non si puo' far nulla per i
rifugiati???
e faccio la domanda perche' mi secca che in tutti i groups di
israeliani quelli di estrema destra continuano a citare i campi
profughi quali esempio lampante dell'egoismo arabo

 rifugiati???
creare una Palestina libera dai coloni ebrei di Cisgiordania e fare
tornare i rifugiati lì anzichè in Israele. E chi non vuol tornare se
lo tiene lo stato arabo in cui risiede. In Yugoslavia nel '54 gli
italiani che volevano restare potevano farlo, e non li hanno
sterminati. Finchè non esiste lo stato palestinese davvero libero
(ovvero non bantustanizzato dalle colonie e dal controllo israeliani
di acqua, gas, petrolio e soldi) ciò non sarà possibile, per cui è
nello stesso interesse di Israele fare la pace coi palestinesi.

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israele non ha nessun interesse pacifico. o meglio, il governo
israeliano, perche' tanti israeliani non sono d'accordo con
l'occupazione e i soprusi, vedi refusenik. la tua idea e' e restera'
sempre un'idea irrealizzabile, un'utopia. almeno finche' gli USA
finanzieranno l'esercito israeliano. e questo sono sicuro che lo
sappia bene anche tu.  basta vedere le cazzate che scrivono sui gruppi
loro....