Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Noam Shalit: ‘I’m happy their nightmare is over’

Mi auguro che tutto finisca bene, ed è probabile che io sia troppo 
sospettoso, ma qualcosa non mi torna nell'aspetto comunicativo di questa 
faccenda, e non vorrei che ci andassero di mezzo i rapiti e i prigionieri.
C'è una cesura troppo profonda tra lo stato dei rapporti Israele-Hamas 
precedente e quello successivo alla tregua. Stona, il governo ora appare 
troppo arrendevole verso Hamas mentre prima esprimeva il massimo 
dell'intransigenza nei suoi confronti.
Spero non ci sia qualche fregatura in arrivo.
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Noam Shalit: ‘I’m happy their nightmare is over’
Father of kidnapped soldier Gilad Shalit expresses happiness for Regev, 
Goldwasser families saying he believes their case has no connection to 
release of his son; ‘each case needs to be discussed separately’
Ahiya Raved
Published: 	06.29.08, 20:17 / Israel News
Noam Shalit, father of Gilad Shalit who was kidnapped over two years ago 
by Hamas said Sunday evening that he is happy for the families of 
kidnapped soldiers Eldad Regev and Ehud Goldwasser who received 
confirmation that the prisoner exchange deal with Hizbullah was accepted 
by the government.
Shalit said to Ynet, “I am happy that the nightmare they endured for the 
last two years is coming to an end.” He added that he doesn’t believe 
that the confirmed deal reached on Sunday is connected to the release of 
his son. “Each case needs to be discussed separately,” he said.
A Mother's Cry
Mothers call for Gilad Shalit's release  / Shmulik Hadad
Dozens of women hold rally at Erez crossing, urging government 'to do 
everything' in order to free kidnapped IDF soldier
Full story
In a show of solidarity, Miki Goldwasser, Ehud Goldwasser’s mother said 
that even when her son and his friend Eldad Regev return, their campaign 
will not end.
“We will continue in the struggle alongside Aviva and Noam Shalit. Even 
when our sons return, we will not stop struggling for their cause and 
supporting them until their son returns home safely,” she said.
According to the Shalit agreement, Palestinian prisoners will be 
released as well. The prisoners will be chosen solely by an Israeli 
governmental decision.
A simultaneous public struggle for the release of Gilad Shalit is 
ensuing. On Friday, dozens of mothers and women demonstrated for the 
release of Shalit at the Erez Crossing. They held signs saying, “Women 
for Gilad Shalit,” and “Let Gilad Shalit’s sun shine.”
A protest entitled “The time has come to release Gilad” was held at 
Mizpeh Hila on Wednesday marking two years since the kidnapping of Gilad 
Shalit. Chen Arad, brother of missing in action Israeli navigator, Ron 
Arad said at the protest that “our leaders refer to the soldiers as if 
they themselves were emperors sending there gladiators to the battlefield.”
Hamas also commented on the Shalit deal on Sunday. Osama Al-Mazini, the 
Hamas spokesman for the Gilad Shalit case told the organization’s 
internet site that Hamas has not received a new official offer regarding 
the exchange deal.
According to him, his movement received an Egyptian invitation to Cairo 
in order to hold indirect negotiations with Israel regarding an 
agreement, but no official date was discussed.
Al- Mazini said that the Hamas does not intend on compromising the 
demands it set for the actualization of the deal. “All women and minors 
must be released without distinction and 1,000 additional prisoners who 
were sentenced to long-term imprisonment must be released according to 
Hamas’ determination.”
According to him, while the Hamas has not given up on its demands it can 
display flexibility regarding the manner in which the deal will be 
conducted. “We will not go back on our words, not regarding the number 
of prisoners or the particular criteria of the deal.
However, flexibility was apparent pertaining to the division into stages 
in order to grant the mediators the feeling that we are ready to 
complete the agreement,” said al-Mazini.
The Hamas senior official denied that the names of the prisoners on the 
list they turned in were agreed upon. According to him, “The occupation 
state has no right to oppose the list that Hamas submitted.”
Gilad Shalit was kidnapped and taken into the Gaza Strip 735 days ago.
Roee Nahmias contributed to this report
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3561810,00.html
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[namib] Posso legalmente inneggiare al comunismo, ma non al fascismo.
L'una appartenenza è appunto *criminale*, l'altra no.
[tonibaruch] Purtroppo abbiamo questa legge idiota, è vero.
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 faccenda, e non vorrei che ci andassero di mezzo i rapiti e i prigionieri.
[...]
Aldilà delle tue pirlate, il governo con questa faccenda ha fatto un bel 
casino. Lo scambio di prigionieri per shalit andava fatto 
contestualmente alla tregua.
Riguardo all'idea di tirare fuori Samir Kuntar e mandarlo a festeggiare 
in Libano, seppur in ritardo, l'assassinio a freddo di una famiglia, è 
ovvio che se i prigionieri israeliani sono vivi (cosa di cui si può 
dubitare), possono valere anche la libertà di un viscido figlio di troia 
come quel lurido assassino.
Spero che la prossima volta che si mettono le mani su un lercio 
individuo del genere si faccia in modo di non riprodurre questo 
angoscioso dilemma.
Db

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Stavolta ti quoto, bagarozzo.
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 ma qualcosa non mi torna
è ovvio, sei un pirla.

 casino.
è questa l'occasione per ricordare che se l'Irgun non avesse
bombardato il King David non sarebbe scoppiata la guerra in Libano e i
tre soldati sarebbero probabilmente nati in qualche confortevole
località europea. Samir Kuntar non è quindi responsabile di omicidio:
il vero assassino è Avraham Stern e il suo folle progetto nazista di
creare uno Stato ebraico.

 Stavolta ti quoto.
ma sei poco propositivo. Ancora non spieghi cosa dovrebbe fare Israele
per evitare guerre con i vicini. Quanti ebrei devono morire? Su,
perché non scrivi una cifra?

 creare uno Stato ebraico.
you better you bet