Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Prigioni CIA. Nuove accuse.

In attesa di sentire la solita tiritera da parte di avvocati non-pagati da
(& non-necessari a) Cesare. E manco romani...
Namib
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http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/international/AP-CIA-Secret-Prisons.html?hp&
ex=1134536400&en=afa719372d25890c&ei=5094&partner=homepage
Inquiry Details Claims of C.I.A. Prisons in Europe
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: December 13, 2005
Filed at 12:14 p.m. ET
PARIS (AP) -- A Swiss investigator probing claims of secret CIA prisons in
Europe said his committee has evidence that supports allegations that
prisoners were transferred between countries and temporarily held ''without
any judicial involvement.''
''Legal proceedings in progress in certain countries seemed to indicate that
individuals had been abducted and transferred to other countries without
respect for any legal standards,'' lawmaker Dick Marty said in a written
report summarizing his investigations so far.
Marty told a news conference he believed the United States was no longer
holding prisoners clandestinely in Europe and he believed they were moved to
North Africa in early November, when reports about secret U.S. prisons first
emerged in The Washington Post. He did not provide any other details.
He presented his findings in Paris to a committee of the 46-nation Council
of Europe, a human rights watchdog.
Marty added that ''information gathered to date reinforced the credibility
of the allegations concerning the transfer and temporary detention of
individuals, without any judicial involvement, in European countries.''
He is investigating the CIA's reported transfers of prisoners through
European airports to secret detention centers, actions that would breach the
continent's human rights principles.
''Based on what I have been able to learn, currently there are no secret
detainees held by the United States in Europe,'' Marty told a news
conference in Paris, adding that he believed prisoners had been taken to
Morocco.
Poland and Romania have been identified by the New York-based Human Rights
Watch as sites of possible CIA secret prisons, but both countries have
repeatedly denied any involvement.
Marty, in his report, added it is ''still too early to assert that there had
been any involvement or complicity of member states in illegal actions.''
He was critical of the United States for not formally denying the
allegations. He said he ''deplores the fact that no information or
explanations'' were provided by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who
faced repeated questions about the CIA prison allegations on her recent
visit to Europe.
Rice has said the United States acts within the law and argued that
Europeans are safer because of tough U.S. tactics, but she refused to
discuss intelligence operations or address questions about clandestine CIA
detention centers.
Marty has requested air traffic log books to try to determine flight
patterns of several dozen suspect CIA airplanes. He has also requested
satellite images of the Sczytno-Szymany airport in northeastern Poland and
the Mihail Kogalniceanu Air Base in eastern Romania, after they were
identified by Human Rights Watch as possible sites of clandestine CIA
detention centers. European officials say such prisons would violate the
continent's human rights principles.
After hearing Marty's presentation, Tony Lloyd, a member of the Council of
Europe committee, said: ''The really difficult thing is the idea is that
there is a kind of legal black hole in the middle of Europe.''

Council of Europe, a human rights watchdog.
Ora il comitato e' del "CONCILIO D'EUROPA". Ma non era "his committee"?
:)
E' il presidente di tale comitato? :)
Ma se e' il presidente di tale comitato, perche' dovrebbe "presentare le
sue scoperte" a tale comitato visto che gia' ne fa parte? :)
-Stefano

 (& non-necessari a) Cesare. E manco romani...
Ma il vero problema e' che i tribunali italiani non accettino prove 
ottenute con la tortura all'estero nei processi di terrorismo in Italia.
Come e'  gia' stato sucesso  in UK, da cui  l'intervento dei Lords, che 
hanno hanno anche il compito di corte di ultima instanza.
Am.

 sue scoperte" a tale comitato visto che gia' ne fa parte? :)
http://www.parlament.ch/cv-biografie?biografie_id=374
Chairperson: Committee on Legal Affairs and Human Rights
Chairperson of the Committee on Legal Affairs and Human Rights: Standing
Committee
http://www.tio.ch/common_includes/pagine_comuni/articolo_interna.asp?idarticolo=246405&idtipo=3
"Il consigliere agli Stati Dick Marty, incaricato dal Consiglio d'Europa di
svolgere accertamenti sull'esistenza di carceri segrete della CIA in
Europa, [..]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Marty
"In 2005, Marty was appointed to lead an investigation by the Council of
Europe into alleged illegal CIA activities in Europe. Marty is planning to
use satellite images and aviation logs to uncover transportation of terror
suspects and secret CIA prisons in Poland and Romania. These activities, if
they occurred, would be a violation of European law."

Standing Committee
Quindi e' presidente di un comitato dell'Assemblea UE (che e' diverso
dalla Commissione per i Diritti Umani dell'UE).
Il problema resta comunque: se e' presidente di tale comitato, perche'
dovrebbe "presentare le sue scoperte" a tale comitato visto che gia' ne
fa parte e che e' il comitato stesso, nella figura del suo presidente,
incaricato delle indagini?
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He presented his findings in Paris to a committee of the 46-nation
Council of Europe, a human rights watchdog.
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Le ha presentate ad un altro comitato?  Quale?
-Stefano