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Titolo: Come risolvere, _VERAMENTE_  e _PER SEMPRE_, il conflitto fra Israeliani e Palestinesi

From very early on, Huwaida had made clear that the relationship could
not go far without their making a serious commitment: "There was the
religious issue and I told him my father would not approve." But the
tensions only added impetus to the relationship. By this time, both had
left Seeds Of Peace and were working full-time for the ISM. It was June
2001, Adam says, when he asked her to marry him. Huwaida disagrees. "He
didn't ask per se . It was late one night and I had dozed off when he
said he thought it would be a good idea if we got engaged. I came to
just as he was asking me what I thought, and I said, 'That's cool,
honey.' He was a little surprised, so the next day he asked again what
I thought and I said, 'About what?' "
Huwaida eventually stayed awake long enough to understand Adam's
proposal and in July, when Huwaida returned to the States, she asked
her father if he would speak to Adam. She says, "At first he was
opposed to even meeting Adam." Was she nervous? "I was nervous but I
was also excited. I knew my family would have to love Adam." As soon as
her father agreed to a meeting, Huwaida called Adam in Jerusalem and
told him to get on a plane.
"I was in Detroit for only 24 hours," Adam says. "I flew out
specifically for that." Was it a long meeting? "No. One hour, an hour
and a half." Adam is circumspect about details, but Huwaida says, "I
think my father had a hard time distinguishing between being Jewish and
Israeli. He asked Adam if he had served in the Israeli army and Adam
said, 'No, I'm American', but my father asked the same question in
three or four different ways." Huwaida's father was a long time giving
an answer, under pressure not only from his immediate family (Huwaida
is the eldest of four, three girls and a boy), but also his family in
Israel. It was four months later that he finally gave his permission,
and the two families came together for a Thanksgiving dinner. Adam
says, "After that, it really was not a problem. They all just hit it
off. We got engaged two days later in a short ceremony at the church.
The priest said a couple of prayers and blessed the rings. I had been
told to agree to get married in a church and I said, 'It's not a
problem.'"
The wedding was set for late spring the following year but, as the day
drew near, it seemed that it might never happen. This time, the problem
was not Adam. It was Huwaida. He had returned to the US at the end of
April for a conference; she was still in Palestine. "The last time we
saw each other, I don't want to say we had an argument, but it got
heated. Adam didn't want to leave. He was saying, 'I don't believe you
are going to meet me for our wedding.' I got very upset. I was saying,
'Don't tell me I will stand you up.' "
Adam had every reason to fear she would not show up.
The wedding was set for May 26. By early May, the Israeli invasion of
the Palestinian areas had resolved itself into two sieges: at the
presidential compound in Ramallah and at the Church of Nativity in
Bethlehem. While Bethlehem remained under 24-hour lockdown, the
Palestinian coordinator of ISM was forbidden to leave his home. The job
had been taken up by an English woman, Georgina Reeves, who was doing
everything she could to get food and medical supplies to the men inside
the church.
"We had tried to get into the basilica before, but this time the
coordination was better," Huwaida says. It was May 2 and Georgina had
maps of the area around the basilica, including sniper positions. In
mobile phone conversations, the men inside the church agreed to remove
their internal barricades and open the door as the ISM arrived. The
soldiers were caught by surprise and, while Huwaida and others blocked
the open door with their bodies, a number of volunteers took the food
into the church.
The action was a huge morale-boost for the men, who were hungry and
often felt they had been forgotten. A teenager who spent all 40 nights
inside the basilica told me the cheering was so loud when the ISM
arrived, he thought that Palestine had been liberated. There were no
further assaults on the church once the ISM was inside, but the Israeli
forces attempted to arrest the remaining ISM volunteers outside. "We
sat down and refused to cooperate. Then I heard this voice say, 'You
have to go, Huwaida, this isn't the University of Michigan any more.' "
She turned around and looked up at a soldier. "He was an old classmate
from university, and now he was serving in the Israeli army."
After the arrest, the men and women were separated. "We were cuffed and
driven into Jerusalem," says Huwaida. The next day, assembled at the
ministry of the interior, all those who refused deportation were thrown
in jail. For Huwaida, deportation was unthinkable. Under Israeli law,
anyone who has been deported cannot return to the country for 10 years;
and so long as Israel controls all access to Palestine, deportation
would mean the end of all further contact with her family and her
struggle. Huwaida insisted she would leave only of her free will. And
she backed it up with a hunger strike.
The hunger strike sent Adam into a fury. And as Huwaida had managed to
sneak a mobile phone into prison, he let her know. "Adam was telling me
to give up my morals and get married. My mom was crying every day." The
problem was that Huwaida was even refusing water. This could seriously
damage her health. Via the phone, her lawyers and her friends and
sympathisers, Adam was leading a campaign to persuade Huwaida to change
her mind, and after three days she began to accept water. But it was
another three days before she received written confirmation that her
demands would be met. She was not satisfied. There were still eight
Americans in jail. "I demanded that everyone got the same letter.
Finally, they gave in. They said, 'Now will you leave?' and I said,
'OK, I got a wedding to catch.' "
It was only on the plane that Huwaida discovered they had reneged on
their promise. Two of the ISM volunteers spent a further 14 days on
hunger strike. At the end, one of the men could not even lift his head.
It seems that Huwaida was given the letter because of the legal
problems involved in deporting her, when she holds Israeli citizenship.
"I actually made it back with two weeks to spare." Yet she and Adam
continued to campaign, not least for the men left behind in prison.
"There were so many interviews and speaking events that there was still
no time for wedding plans."
"Huwaida's parents organised everything and all we had to do was turn
up," Adam says. "This was good and bad. But it was mostly good."
"The dress was completely last-minute."
The wedding turned out to be far larger than Adam expected, with a
sudden surge in well-wishers. "I think there were supposed to be 250
guests, but more than 300 showed," he says. "Detroit Radio announced
the date, and after that we had complete strangers turning up."
"It was just a huge fun party," adds Adam. "Huwaida entered carrying
candles, I just soaked everything in."
Even a headline in the New York Post, Jewish Taliban Weds, repeating
the old taunt alongside a photograph of their wedding, failed to spoil
the fun. Strange to say, when they returned to Ramallah after their
wedding, Adam turned up in Jerusalem for a regular game of American
football with American-Israelis and other Israeli friends, and they
showed nothing but curiosity for his stance and actions. The truth is,
Adam is far from being alone. The ISM in the US, at Huwaida's
estimation, is one-quarter Jewish. Jewish volunteers on the ground in
Gaza and the West Bank estimate that it may be as much as a third
Jewish, a figure recently confirmed by journalists.
Yet since the invasion, the ISM's situation has become increasingly
perilous. Caoimhe Butterly was shot in the same incursion that saw the
fatal shooting of British UN worker Iain Hook. Then, in a short period
of time in Rafah, ISM volunteer Rachel Corrie and Tom Hurndall, a young
photographer working with them, received horrific injuries. Rachel died
almost immediately. Tom subsists in a coma. Brian Avery, another ISM
volunteer, lost half his face after being sprayed with shrapnel from a
heavy machine gun fired at his feet.
I ask Adam if he feels responsible as he treks across the US, speaking
and recruiting on behalf of the ISM. "Yes, I feel a responsibility. But
we do everything we can do. We make contact with the army wherever we
go. We absolutely never sneak up on them. We move in large numbers,
making as much noise as we can. We have started wearing fluorescent
vests. We have done everything we can do, but it is now that we have
become targets."
Huwaida goes further. She believes that the Israeli forces have
declared "open war" on the ISM. In a letter to the Guardian last
Saturday, Shuli Davidovich, press secretary at the Israeli embassy,
implicitly denies this: "The Israeli defence force takes the utmost
care to ensure that innocent people are not hurt during their
operations against terrorists who deliberately operate from within
civilian populations. However... in war, tragedies do happen, as much
as we would wish otherwise."
Huwaida's fear remains that the killings have been "legitimised" by
recent claims from the Israeli army. A statement that a gun had been
found in the ISM offices in Jenin was admitted to be an untruth.
Huwaida says, "We took them to task and they retracted." A more
damaging claim is that two UK-born suicide bombers "posed" as ISM
volunteers. Of this, Huwaida says, "The idea that they gained any
benefit by posing as ISM volunteers is ridiculous. Since April 2002,
Israel has denied access to international peace activists."
The men are said to have spent a considerable time in other Middle
Eastern countries before entering Israel. Adam asks if Israel intends
to make the ISM responsible for everyone in the occupied territories.
"They had three opportunities to detect these men - at the Israeli
border, again as they entered Gaza and finally as they left Gaza," he
argues. "If the stories about the movements of these terrorists are
true, it's strange that Israel could not pick up on them. Israel
degrades its own security by maintaining the occupation. They are
stretching their resources, and it seems that security is not good."
Adam and Huwaida, and their story, bring into focus a national debate
in America. And Adam thinks this will have a positive result. He is
redoubling his efforts to attract hundreds of volunteers to the
campaigns the ISM is organising for the summer. "With these kinds of
numbers, we can be proactive and start to change some of the equations.
The war has made many more Americans say, 'You know what, we have to
make a stand now.' No government holds Israel to account for what it is
doing to the Palestinians. Without the ISM, there would be no
internationals in most of these areas. We simply have to be there."
"I was uncomfortable about the press covering the wedding," Huwaida
says. And Adam has a strong sense of personal privacy, too. "But I
tried to look at it another way, because people do find a positive
message in it. That we can live together."
The problem is, they do not live together. Adam was arrested in Israel
last summer, not long after the wedding, and deported. In the past
year, he and Huwaida have spent only six months together.
"When we were planning our marriage, Adam said he wasn't getting
married to spend all our time apart. But that's the way it has
happened." And while she calls it a minor sacrifice, Adam sounds less
sure.
"In some ways, it's easier when you're there, because you are active."
He admits to finding life without her very difficult. "We communicate
by text and email and phone. But some days we don't talk and that's
nerve-racking."
"My mom asks about kids every day," Huwaida says, as they spend
precious time together in Detroit. They have been touring the US giving
talks, but today is May 11, Mother's Day, and they are at her family
home. "I just heard my mother say I had promised her kids for
Christmas. I was saying, 'When did I ever make that promise?' "
As we speak, their first wedding anniversary is a fortnight away, on
May 26. Huwaida will be in the occupied territories. Adam will spend it
in Washington, working on his PhD in peace and conflict resolutions.
Either that, or watching his wife on CNN.

... visto che ti piace il genere, guardati:
http://www.westbankstory.com/
squisito cortometraggio di tale Ari Sandel sulla storia d'amore tra un  
soldato israeliano e una cassiera palestinese sulla falsariga di west side  
story... molto carini il "kosher king" e lo "hummus hut"...
... ma parlavi di risolvere _VERAMENTE_ e _PER SEMPRE_ il conflitto  
israelo-palestinese... mi deve essere sfuggito qualcosa... boh...
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 israelo-palestinese... mi deve essere sfuggito qualcosa... boh...
Si, ti e' sfuggito che il mio post non riguardava i film, ma la vita
reale.
GT

against the Israeli occupation.
E invece ha aiutato terroristi ad uccidere innocenti civili israeliani.
-Stefano

reale.
Anche il terrorismo fa parte della vita reale, anche se lo rappresentano
pure nei film.
-Stefano

 GT
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Cosa di cui hai le prove ma non le vuoi mostrare al mondo, vero?
GT

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Il mondo le prove le ha da un bel pezzo.
Citando la tua cara Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Solidarity_Movement
ISM's position on violence
The ISM's website describes the organization as a "non-violent
movement"; however the same website carries a statement that says "As
enshrined in international law and UN resolutions, we recognise the
Palestinian right to resist Israeli violence and occupation via
legitimate armed struggle. However, we believe that nonviolence can be a
powerful weapon in fighting oppression and we are committed to the
principles of nonviolent resistance. " [2] This has led some to question
the organisation's commitment to non-violence. For example an article in
the UK's Telegraph newspaper asserts that ISM is "the 'peace' group that
embraces violence". [3] ISM disputes the accusations (see ISM links
below).
According to a 2003 profile of ISM cofounder Adam Shapiro in the Jordan
Star, Shapiro "justifies the Palestinian armed resistance against Israel
as long as it is targeting Israeli soldiers and Jewish settlers in the
West Bank and Gaza Strip. Otherwise, he is not in favor of suicide
bombings." 
http://home.comcast.net/~jat.action/ISM_essay_ref12.htm
ISM cofounder George Rishmawi has, arguably, defended the "need" for
suicide bombing:
"You are mistaken my friend. I am sorry to tell you this but you are.
Well, When did the suicide bombing start? When did the occupation of the
west Bank and Gaza started? When did the aggression agaisnt the
Palestinian started?
"You need to know the source of the conflict and the source of the
suffering that bushes people to kill themselves and others.
"I do not want to see anybody killed but we need to say that taking
people's rights and freedom is the source of the problem and when this
stops there should be not need for anymore killing. This is what we
should advocate for it right now."
http://home.comcast.net/~jat.action/ISM_essay_ref11.htm
Various sources attribute to ISM the statement that suicide bombing is
"noble" [4] [5] [6]
[4] 
http://www.presbyweb.com/2004/Letters/122101.htm
[5] 
http://home.comcast.net/~jat.action/PCUSA_Brodsky.htm
[6] 
http://clarityandresolve.com/archives/2004/09/duke_to_host_pr.php
This assertion appears to arise from an article entitled "Why Nonviolent
Resistance is Important for the Palestinian Intifada", in which Huwaida
Arraf and Adam Shapiro state:
The Geneva Conventions accept that armed resistance is legitimate for an
occupied people, and there is no doubt that this right cannot be denied.
But that does not mean that this right must be utilized... Hamas claims
it has many men ready to be suicide bombers – we advocate that these men
offer themselves as martyrs by standing on a settler road and blocking
it from traffic. This is no less of a jihad. This is no less noble than
carrying out a suicide operation...
The Palestinian resistance must take on a variety of characteristics,
both non-violent and violent. But most importantly it must develop a
strategy involving both aspects. No other successful nonviolent movement
was able to achieve what it did without a concurrent violent movement –
in India militants attacked British outposts and interests while Gandhi
conducted his campaign, while the Black Panther Movement and its earlier
incarnations existed side-by-side with the Civil Rights Movement in the
United States.
The 'ISM suicide bombers'
ISM has been accused of 'forging links with' the suicide bombers that
attacked the Mike's Place bar in Israel on April 30, 2003, killing three
people.
There appear to be two primary sources behind this accusation. The first
is an article that appeared in a May 2, 2003 article in the left wing
British newspaper The Guardian under the heading "Bombers posed as peace
activists" [7]. In a January 17, 2004 article in CNN's world edition,[8]
which included parts of an interview with ISM volunteer Raphael Cohen,
Cohen stated that the two bombers were among a group of about 15 people
who visited an International Solidarity Movement apartment in Rafah,
Gaza, on April 25, 2003. According to Cohen, after spending about 15
minutes in the apartment with the bombers, he, his colleagues and the 15
visitors (including the bombers), went to the site where Rachel Corrie
was killed and placed a flower there. Following this, Cohen stated, the
people "that visited us [then] went their own way."
The second source is a press release issued by the Israel Ministry of
Foreign Affairs [9] which states "The two terrorists were careful to
establish their presence in Judea and Samaria by forging links with
foreign left wing activists and members of the International Solidarity
Movement (ISM)". The release makes various other negative claims about
ISM, but this is the only reference to the group in relation to the
Mike's Place bombing. However, ISM states that the two did not contact
ISM in the West Bank (Judea and Samaria) at all (see ISM press releases
below).
The 'terrorist' in the office
On March 27, 2003, Shadi Sukiya, who Israel claimed was an Islamic Jihad
member, was arrested in a building in Jenin where the ISM, the Red
Cross, and Médecins Sans Frontières rent offices. See the Shadi Sukiya
page for more details.
A poster giving his name as "ISM - TOOLS OF TERROR AND LEGITIMATE
TARGETS" on the open-publishing Indymedia UK website states that ISM
member Susan Barclay was deported from Israel for allegedly giving "safe
house" assistance to Islamic Jihad terrorist Shadi Sukiya by hiding him
in the ISM office in Jenin. [13].
http://www2.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/07/274185.html
In an interview with the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, Ms. Barclay
"acknowledged that in organizing a non-violent February march on an
Israel-imposed gate that divided eastern and western Nablus, she worked
with representatives from [Hamas and Islamic Jihad]", both of which are
on the U.S. State Department's list of foreign terrorist organizations.
[14] 
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/113302_shield20.shtml
.....
Until late January of 2005 the ISM website's FAQ section had (on its
page "
http://www.palsolidarity.org/about/lies.php
") as a response to the
question "On your web-site, you give advice to volunteers on how to lie
to the Israeli authorities so you can get into the country and the
occupied areas. Why tell lies?" the justification that "Under both
Israeli and International law, we should have the right, as
international observers, to visit both Israel and the Occupied
Palestinian Territories." [17] [18] The explicit advice on how to lie to
Israeli officials, and the justification for doing so, have since been
removed from the website, though the group's Information Pack still
advises activists to "have a good story prepared about why you are
coming to ISRAEL" and to "have a good story when you arrive." [19]

 [14] 
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/113302_shield20.shtml
Hanno organizzato una manifestazione pacifica?  'mazza che terroristi!
Insomma, hai le prove, le vuoi mostrare al mondo, ma non valgono un
fico secco! :-)

fico secco! :-)
Certo, certo... :)
*pat pat*
*LOL*
-Stefano