Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Le opinioni dei soldados

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=35385
Thursday, March 2, 2006
Poll of troops in Iraq sees 72% support for withdrawal
within a year
By Leo Shane III, Stars and Stripes
Mideast edition, Wednesday, March 1, 2006
WASHINGTON -- Seventy-two percent of troops on the ground in
Iraq think U.S. military forces should get out of the
country within a year, according to a Zogby poll released
Tuesday.
The survey of 944 troops, conducted in Iraq between Jan. 18
and Feb. 14, said that only 23 percent of servicemembers
thought U.S. forces should stay "as long as they are needed."
Of the 72 percent, 22 percent said troops should leave
within the next six months, and 29 percent said they should
withdraw "immediately." Twenty-one percent said the U.S.
military presence should end within a year; 5 percent
weren't sure.
But policy experts differ on exactly what those numbers mean.
Justin Logan, a foreign policy analyst for the Cato
Institute, called the figure alarming, and a sign that the
Bush administration and troops in Iraq see the goals and the
progress of the war very differently.
The president has opposed any plans for a withdrawal date,
saying troops will remain until Iraq's security is assured.
Logan sees so many troops wanting a clear time line as
showing "an alarming disconnect" between the policy and its
implementation.
But Loren Thompson, a military analyst with the Lexington
Institute, said troops who say the U.S. should withdraw
could be concerned for their own safety, or they could be
optimistic about progress so far, or they could simply be
opposed to the idea of operations in Iraq.
"You have to pick apart each servicemember's thought process
to understand what that means," he said. "I think this is
about personal circumstances, and not proof there is a
higher rate of troops who desire departure."
Defense Department officials declined to comment on the
poll, saying they did not have details on how the survey was
conducted.
John Zogby, CEO of the polling company, said the poll was
funded through Le Moyne College's Center for Peace and
Global Studies, which received money for the project from an
anonymous, anti-war activist, but neither the activist nor
the school had input on the content of the poll.
Zogby said the survey was conducted face-to-face throughout
Iraq, with permission from commanders. Despite the
difficulty of polling in a war zone, he said, pollsters were
pleased with the results.
"This is a credible and representative look at what the
troops are saying," he said. "Clearly there are those [in
the U.S.] who will speak for the troops, so there is a real
value in seeing what they are actually saying."
The poll also shows that 42 percent of the troops surveyed
are unsure of their mission in Iraq, and that 85 percent
believe a major reason they were sent into war was "to
retaliate for Saddam's role in the Sept. 11 attacks."
Ninety-three percent said finding and destroying weapons of
mass destruction is not a reason for the ongoing military
action.
"We were surprised by that, especially the 85 percent
[figure]," Zogby said. "Clearly that is much higher than the
consensus among the American public, and the public's
perception [on that topic] is much higher than the actual
reality of the situation."
In terms of current operations, 80 percent of those polled
said they did not hold a negative view of all Iraqis because
of the ongoing attacks against coalition military forces.
More than 43 percent of those polled said their equipment,
such as Humvees, body armor and munitions, is adequate for
the jobs facing them, while 30 percent said it is not.
Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C. and chairman of the Victory in Iraq
Caucus, a group of 118 Republican lawmakers, said the poll
does not diminish his opinion of the importance of the armed
forces role in Iraq.
"Whatever the percentages are, I know 100 percent of our
troops want to complete their mission over there," he said.
"My view is, whatever the poll results say, the bottom line
is these are troops who will continue their mission, because
they would rather fight the enemy overseas than at home."
Of those surveyed, 75 percent have served multiple tours in
Iraq, 63 percent were under 30 years old, and 75 percent
were male.

 troops are saying," he said.
*ROTFL*
Ci mancherebbe che dicesse qualcosa di diverso :)
-Stefano

 -Stefano
Ci mancherebbe che tu, famoso pollster, dicessi qualcosa di diverso 
presentando un poll piu' credibile...
Am.

 within a year
Tocchera' sostituirli con quelli che in questo Ng non vedono l'ora(a
parole!) di battersi contro i musulmani<g> !

dicessi qualcosa di diverso presentando un poll piu' credibile...
E perche' dovrei presentare "un poll piu' credibile"? :)
Manco si sa che campione sia stato preso :)
-Stefano

Stefano De Cesari ha scritto:
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Pesi massimi>g> ?

Pesi massimi>g> ?
C.V.D. :)
-Stefano

 E perche' dovrei presentare "un poll piu' credibile"? :)
Per abbagliare i lucci, come il Berlusca
Giacche' le tue previsioni spontanee, come le sue, si dimostrano 
costantemente sbagliate:  dalle WMD alla guerra civile,alla presenza  
di agenti CIA a Milano...
*PIRLA*
Am.

 *PIRLA*
...disse il *PIRLA MONONEURONE*... :)
-Stefano

 Mai dimostrata :)
I procuratori ne hanno appena chiesto l'estradizione...
Am.

I procuratori ne hanno appena chiesto l'estradizione...
Di chi? Di 21 agenti CIA?
Come no! :)
*ROTFL*
-Stefano

 *ROTFL*
S'erano dati appuntamento in una strada di Milano  per rapire un Imam 
come una qualsiasi comitiva americana?
ROTFL!
Persino come Muro di Gomma hai bisogno di essere vulcanizzato...
Am.

Persino come Muro di Gomma hai bisogno di essere vulcanizzato...
...disse il bue all'asino... :)
-Stefano

!!!!!  P-I-R-L-A !!!!
...disse il ***P-I-R-L-A*** MONONEURONE!!!!
*LOL*
-Stefano

 kidnapping and "a possible breach of national sovereignty."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0601200154jan20,1,5726857.story?coll=chi-newsnati
E 
adesso fa il favore di andare a giocare con i Tre Porcellini,  oppure 
piu' semplicemente di andare a it.fan.culo, che e' il gruppo piu' a tua 
portata...
Am.

tua portata...
...disse il povero *DEFICIENTE MONONEURONE*.... :)
Alla tua prossima figura di merda, caro *FESSO MONONEURONE*! :)
-Stefano

 *LOL*
ma queste sono le tue illazioni di cialtrone presuntuoso che non solo 
si illude di fare la lezione ai giornalisti di mezzo mondo, ma persino 
ai procuratori della Repubblica...
Io spero che facciano una legge contro i gli imbrattatori di pubblici 
spazi e che prima o poi te la facciano pagare, verme immondo che 
giustifica con un sorrisetto le peggiori torture.
Omar infatti e' rimasto semi paralizzato dopo il suo viaggetto al Cairo 
organizzato da Lady.
Bleah!
Am.

 Bleah!
Concordo :)  Le tue puttanate fanno veramente schifo :)
-Stefano

 torture and mistreat detainees, particularly during interrogations."
- Chicago Tribune
Testa di Cazzo che si e' gia' fatto grasse risate per la morte della 
bambina di Gaza...
Am.

Gaza...
...disse il bue all'asino...
-Stefano

 E dove ca**o sta la tua "semi-paralisi"? :)
Anche questa la segnaliamo per la tua shitfile...
Am.

>E dove ca**o sta la tua "semi-paralisi"? :)
C.V.D. :)
Alla tua prossima puttanata di fantasia, caro *FESSO MONONEURONE* :)
-Stefano

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Bel cut per evitare di perdere la faccia, ammesso che te ne sia rimasta 
una, ciarlatano...
Am.

ciarlatano...
...disse il ciarlatano mononeurone dopo aver portato solo insulti a
sostegno della fantasiosa "semi-paralisi" di Abu Omar... :)
-Stefano

 -Stefano
PIRLA!
 Milan investigating magistrates say Omar was first taken to the 
American Aviano air base in northern Italy and transferred to a 
military base at Ramstein in Germany, from where he was then flown to 
Egypt in a private plane hired by the CIA. Once there he was held at 
the high security Tora prison for more than a year and was released in 
April 2004 after collapsing and suffering partial paralysis as a result 
of the torture he was subjected to, Once free and despite being warned 
not to, Omar recounted his experience to a fellow Egyptian imam in 
Milan, in a phone call tapped by the Italian police. He said he had 
been beaten to the point where he could hardly move his legs and had 
been tortured with electric cables. Then nothing more was heard of him 
until new information emerged in June this year that he is back in Tora 
prison. 
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10473.htm
PIRLA!
 Pressure has been growing for an explanation into dozens of CIA 
flights through Europe, which are thought to have picked up and 
delivered terror suspects to prisons in countries where they may 
subsequently have been tortured or maltreated.
 An investigation has already been opened in Germany into a case in 
which an Egyptian terror suspect, Abu Omar, was reportedly transferred 
to an Egyptian prison via Ramstein in western Germany, the biggest US 
air base in Europe. In Italy, prosecutors have already issued 22 arrest 
warrants for CIA operatives accused of kidnapping Omar from a street in 
Milan in February 2003, before flying him to Ramstein, and transferring 
him to another plane which flew him on to Cairo, where he is still in 
prison, and where he says he was tortured to the point of suffering 
partial paralysis.
 Similar investigations into secret CIA flights have begun in other 
Europen countries, including Spain, Sweden, Iceland and Britain.
http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Politics&loid=8.0.234033406&par=0
PIRLA!
e apologo della tortura...
Am.

 e apologo della tortura...
...cosa della quale il *PIRLA MONONEURONE* ha le prove ma non le vuole
mostrare al mondo, vero? :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

 -Stefano
Le prove le considerano i procuratori, non certo te, carta da cesso.
Continua pure a difendere la tortura e l'assassinio sotto anonimato, 
dalla bambina di Gaza al mullah Omar... Forse verra' il giorno che 
qualche musulmano trovera' il tuo nome e ti mettera' una taglia addosso 
come a Calderoli...
Am.

ti mettera' una taglia addosso come a Calderoli...
*ROTFL*
E dici sta stronzata dopo che lo stesso Gheddafi ha affermato che
l'aggressione all'ambasciata italiana non c'entra 'na sega con la
maglietta di Calderoli? :)
Sei proprio il *PIRLA MONONEURONE* che sei :)
-Stefano