Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Leggo Luca Logi e mi chiedo

La Polonia e' un Paese cattolico, vero?
 
https://www.algemeiner.com/2017/02/24/70-years-later-still-no-answers-on-the-holocaust/
 
 
On July 10, 1941, this village was the site of incomprehensible horror. The Poles forced rabbis to carry the Torah, marching and singing, as they brutally beat the Jews and drove them into a barn. They tied up children, stabbed live babies with pitchforks and threw them screaming into the barn. Then the Poles doused it with kerosene, and burned every Jew alive.

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Mi chiedo, da un pezzo standard di piagnoneria olocaustica cosa prenderà 
il Nostro? Il riferimento alla cattolica che ha salvato degli israeliti, 
o quello a un episodio di atrocità le cui responsabilità sono in realtà 
ancora oggetto di indagine?
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedwabne_pogrom
 
 
 
fe...@delenda.net
 
-- 
Voglio andare a Vaiano per il campo di calcio che ho visto la e toccare 
con mano un mediocre ma reale disperato aggancio con la realtà
http://delendanet.blogspot.com
 

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In soli sette anni i valorosi combattenti della banda Stern, che daranno
un primo ministro agli israeliani (poi dicono che i palestinesi sono
governati da terroristi) vendicheranno l'affronto a Deir Yassin. Sui
superstiti che fuggivano attraverso Mea Sharim si sputò sopra perché con
i loro movimenti dissacravano la festività del sabato. Altri furono
portati in parata come prigionieri per essere riportati a casa e
falciati a raffiche di mitra. Sul sito di Deir Yassin ci faranno un
manicomio e i documenti negli archivi sono ancora secretati; due
tentativi di renderli pubblici sono falliti (poi dicono degli archivi
del Vaticano).
 
 

 In soli sette anni i valorosi combattenti della banda Stern,
 
ecco un pezzo del repertorio, il paragone tra sionismo ed antisemitismo nazista. Dove il secondo pare ovviamente una conseguenza del primo. 

 Mi chiedo, da un pezzo standard di piagnoneria olocaustica
 
che simpatico linguaggio, i sostenitori di Luca Logi.
Che poi, notare, anziché chiedersi se si potevano evitare i massacri, preferisce rimproverare quelli che ricordano che i massacri ci son stati. 
 
 
 

 ecco un pezzo del repertorio
 
"repertorio"
prigioneri passati in parata e ritornati ad una cava per essere
fucilati, lui li chiama "repertorio"
 
buongiorno Andrea "repertorio" Zanardo
 
 

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il pezzo del (tuo) repertorio e' il paragone tra antisemitismo nazista e il sionismo. Basta leggere la frase per intero. 
 

 nazista e il sionismo. Basta leggere la frase per intero. 
 
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TO THE EDITORS OF NEW YORK TIMES:
Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the
emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party"
(Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization,
methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist
parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former
Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in
Palestine.
The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United
States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American
support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement
political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States.
Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome
his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout
the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and
perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he
represents.
Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions,
public manifestations in Begin's behalf, and the creation in Palestine
of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist
elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the
record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement.
The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual
character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism,
whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist
state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real
character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to
do in the future.
 
Attack on Arab Village
A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir
Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands,
had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who
wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK
TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a
military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants (240
men, women, and children) and kept a few of them alive to parade as
captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community
was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of
apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from
being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it
widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the
country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin.
The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the
Freedom Party.
Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of
ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like
other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have
themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their
stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model.
During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and
Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish
community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults
were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods,
beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists
intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute.
The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive
achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no
settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their
much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to
bringing in Fascist compatriots.
 
Discrepancies Seen
The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and
his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the
imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp
of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British
alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the
goal.
In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the
truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It
is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has
refused to campaign against Begin's efforts, or even to expose to its
own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin.
 
The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few
salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all
concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.
 
ISIDORE ABRAMOWITZ,
HANNAH ARENDT,
ABRAHAM BRICK,
RABBI JESSURUN CARDOZO,
ALBERT EINSTEIN,
HERMAN EISEN, M.D.,
HAYIM FINEMAN, M. GALLEN, M.D.,
H.H. HARRIS,
ZELIG S. HARRIS,
SIDNEY HOOK,
FRED KARUSH,
BRURIA KAUFMAN,
IRMA L. LINDHEIM,
NACHMAN MAISEL,
SEYMOUR MELMAN,
MYER D. MENDELSON, M.D.,
HARRY M. OSLINSKY,
SAMUEL PITLICK,
FRITZ ROHRLICH,
LOUIS P. ROCKER,
RUTH SAGIS,
ITZHAK SANKOWSKY,
I.J. SHOENBERG,
SAMUEL SHUMAN,
M. SINGER,
IRMA WOLFE,
STEFAN WOLFE.
New York, Dec. 2, 1948
 
 

 TO THE EDITORS OF
 
una volta che abbiamo ricordato che nel tuo repertorio ci sta il paragone tra vittime delle fosse ardeatine e terroristi palestinesi che incontrano il destino che si sono scelti. 
e stabilito che questo bislacco paragone poggia sulla calunnia secondo cui nazismo e sionismo sarebbero movimenti moralmente paragonabili (paragonare il progetto di sterminio degli ebrei con il desiderio disperato di metterli in salvo)
e ripetuto a beneficio degli ignari che la famosa leadership dell'ebraismo americano non fu esattamente una ardente sostenitrice dell'entrata in guerra, e ci volle la marcia dei rabbini organizzata da Peter Bergson, eroico esempio di sionista nazionalista (assieme al giovane padre di Netanyahu, curioso vero?)
e che il modo in cui lo stesso New York Times ha raccontato ai lettori il genocidio degli ebrei non e' una delle pagine migliori della storia del giornalismo (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buried_by_the_Times
 )
che cosa intendi provare con questo ritaglio di archivio, tratto dal sopra menzionato NYT, in cui di nazismo non si fa alcun cenno?