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Titolo: Are Saddam's Sons Alive?...

Are Saddam's Sons Alive?
07/25/2003 17:19
They may be equally dead or alive
The consequences of death of Saddam Hussein's sons give rise to several
questions. If the questions remain unanswered, the death of the two
important figures in Iraq looks unbelievable. It is not ruled out that the
liquidation of the brothers was in fact a special operation launched to
cover them up.
The question number one: what did the men do in one of the main Kurd cities
while it is known that their father had poisoned thousands of Kurds? We may
suppose they just picked out an unusual way of committing a suicide there.
On the contrary, they merely decided to hide where nobody would guess to
look for them. Otherwise, it is rather problematic to explain why they had a
secret address in the enemy's camp. In fact, there was no conspiracy about
the whole of the situation at all.
Question number two: why did Uday and Qusay decide to come out from under
cover? It was reported that the sons of the Iraqi dictator, one man took his
child with him, lived in a villa belonging to their relative. It looked
rather strange under conditions that American and British special services
were hunting them. If both men actually did so, it was hardly likely that
they were sane at that time. However, if we assume the sons of Saddam were
actually insane this fact actually casts a shadow on the coalition special
services.
It is not ruled out either that Americans knew where Uday and Qusay stayed
but didn't seize the men for some unknown reasons. At a convenient moment
they just ensnared Saddam's sons, let's assume, by guaranteeing safety to
them.
It is not ruled out that the men were arrested just accidentally, which is
proved by the chronology of reports about the special operation from
different news agencies. A report about "a fighting in Mosul" appeared
first. Further details were reported to inform that the operation was meant
to seize four top officials of the Saddam regime. Finally it was reported
that Saddam's sons and even his grand-son were killed during the operation.
So, it turns out that the military were not aware of the targets they were
firing upon. Americans didn't even mention how they managed to find the
bigwigs, while even super secret services of Russia do report some details
of special operations they conduct.
The question number three: why didn't special services take Uday and Qusay
alive? This is the biggest mystery of the whole operation started for
liquidation of Saddam's sons. We say liquidation as it seems that nobody
planned to take the men alive. Otherwise Americans wouldn't have fired upon
the building where the suspects stayed. The military were firing upon the
building for four hours which meant that none of people staying there
survived.
What is more, foreign mass media reported with reference to the US command
in Iraq that Saddam's sons were killed almost immediately as the firing
started. Does it mean that within the rest four hours of the special
operation it was Saddam's 14-year-old grandson who contained the US special
forces? According to these mass media, it turns out that he wounded four
Americans soldiers that were reported as suffered in the attack. It was
unwise of Americans to tell about the deeds of the 14-year-old boy; now he
may become a hero for the Iraqi opposition.
At the same time, it is rather strange and even absurd to make a decision to
liquidate such valuable witnesses as Saddam's sons. Modern inquest methods
would help Americans learn much information firsthand. For example, the sons
could have provided information about the place where Saddam was hiding;
about a storehouse of weapons of mass destruction. Americans would have
learnt the numbers of secret bank accounts, the location of military bases
and the armed groups that cause much damage to the coalition forces. After
all, it would be useful for Washington to learn at least something about
Iraq's international activity, the relations with other countries, Russia,
China and North Korea within the period when the sanctions were still in
force in Iraq. Uday and Qusay would have told a lot about the relations of
Saddam Hussein with the Moslem world and with terrorist organizations. If
the USA and Great Britain had this compromising information, they would have
proved their absolute alibi and put an end to the scandals that break out
from time to time in connection with the Iraqi operation. If the men were
alive, they would have been actually very helpful for the USA and Great
Britain. Their dead bodies, if these are actually bodies of Saddam's sons,
are useless from the point of view of propaganda now.
It may be so that Americans feared that Uday and Qusay would tell a lot
about the relations between Baghdad and Washington if they appeared before
the special tribunal that is created for investigation of the crimes
committed by the previous Iraqi regime. The USA feared the world might learn
about the relations between the two countries during the Iran-Iraq war and
why the Desert Storm didn't end in overthrowing of Saddam Hussein.
It is important that another version of the story may be suggested as well.
People in command of the attack at the villa just needed some dead bodies to
pass them for the dead bodies of Saddam's sons. If we take the above
mentioned questions into consideration and add other oddities of the Iraqi
campaign, we may suppose that the operation was meant not to capture or
liquidate Saddam's sons but to cover them up.
Now when the two men are officially declared dead they may live their lives
quietly. Although Americans say that the sons have joined the father in the
next world, it is very likely that the three are still alive and will be
living happily.
Nikita Petrov

 Are Saddam's Sons Alive?
In effetti c'è qualcosa di strano nella cronologia degli eventi.
Dietrologia?
Reuters, 22 luglio:
http://it.news.yahoo.com/030722/58/2dolc.html
MOSUL, Iraq (Reuters) - Alcuni soldati statunitensi oggi hanno fatto
irruzione in una casa nella città di Mosul, nel nord dell'Iraq, uccidendo un
iracheno e catturando alcuni alleati chiave di Saddam che si erano nascosti
dentro. Lo ha riferito un ufficiale statunitense che ha assistito alla
scena. "Individui di grandissimo interesse per le forze di coalizione si
erano nascosti all'interno dell'edificio", ha detto a Reuters il tenente
colonnello William Bishop della 101esima Divisione Airborne. [...] "Questa
mattina siamo andati nella palazzina e l'abbiamo circondata, e trattenuto
parecchi di questi personaggi di alto interesse", ha dichiarato Bishop.
Reuters, 25 luglio:
http://it.news.yahoo.com/030725/58/2dv73.html
"I due corpi sono stati sottoposti a ricostruzione facciale con del
materiale per farli somigliare il più possibile ai volti dei fratelli da
vivi", ha detto un militare Usa, definendola una pratica tradizionale,
sebbene disapprovata dalla maggior parte dei musulmani.
http://it.news.yahoo.com/030725/58/2dugn.html
"I due corpi hanno subito una ricostruzione facciale con i tecnici che hanno
lavorato per renderli più somiglianti possibile all'aspetto che avevano da
vivi", ha detto un ufficiale Usa.
Ciao
Faber

bodies to pass them for the dead bodies of Saddam's sons.
Peccato che sia facile verificare con il DNA se lo erano o meno (senza
contare tutto il resto) :)
-Stefano