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Titolo: MPs could vote again on Syria if 'circumstances change significantly', ministers say

magari non vuol dire niente, o magari no...sicuramente peserà l'esito 
del voto francese e peseranno le pressioni di Kerry sul Congresso
 
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10282098/MPs-could-vote-again-on-Syria-if-circumstances-change-significantly-ministers-say.html
 
 
MPs could vote again on Syria if 'circumstances change significantly', 
ministers say
MPs could be asked to vote again on British military involvement in 
Syria if compelling new evidence emerges of atrocities by Bashar 
al-Assad’s regime, ministers suggested on Monday.
 
Philip Hammond, the Defence Secretary, raised the prospect of a second 
Commons vote on the issue, admitting it was a possibility if the 
situation in Syria changed “very significantly”.
Alistair Burt, the Foreign Office minister, also conceded the he would 
“never say never” when pressed on the prospect of a fresh vote to 
authorise British military action.
Two former Conservative ministers gave interviews on Monday urging David 
Cameron not to rule out the idea. Both Liam Fox, the former Defence 
Secretary, and Andrew Mitchell, the former International Development 
Secretary, suggested there were circumstances in which a new vote could 
be necessary.
Since David Cameron’s humiliating defeat on the issue on Thursday night, 
there have been growing calls for another vote on Syria. Both the US and 
France have since presented evidence about the extent of the Assad 
regime’s alleged chemical weapons on Damascus, which America said had 
killed 1,429 people including 426 children.
Senior Labour ministers have also said that they could “consider” a 
second vote, with Jim Murphy, the shadow defence secretary, saying that 
a “policy of indefinite inaction” is “unwise”.
 
Downing Street on Monday repeatedly said there were “absolutely no 
plans” to take the issue back to the Commons following Mr Cameron’s 
defeat last week.
However, Westminster insiders believe that the Government is leaving the 
door open to another vote following President Barack Obama’s decision to 
delay military strikes against Assad and seek the support of the US 
Congress.
Speaking in the Commons on Monday, Mr Hammond said: “I’ve said already 
we believe Parliament has spoken clearly on this issue and is unlikely 
to want to revisit it unless the circumstances change very significantly.”
MPs last Thursday rejected Government backing for potential military 
action against Syria by just 13 votes.
Former Tory Cabinet ministers have now joined the list of senior figures 
in the party urging Mr Cameron not to entirely rule out a second vote it 
the Commons.
Mr Fox said: “Before a second vote could happen I think two things would 
need to change - the first is that more information and new information 
would have to be available to Members of Parliament.
“The second would be that the Labour Party leadership would have to 
change from being parliamentary tacticians to thinking about Britain’s 
place in the world. Is there ground on either of those for another vote? 
I think yes on both.”
Mr Mitchell added that it was important that the Government “don’t rule 
anything out”. “There’s very rapidly moving situation, we’ve had new 
intelligence even since the vote on Thursday,” he said.
Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London, has also argued that there should be 
another debate in Parliament about Syria.
Chuka Umunna, the Shadow Defence Secretary, and Mr Murphy on Monday 
appeared to welcome the possibility of a second vote.
In the Commons on Monday Mr Murphy asked Mr Hammond to “spell out” how 
the circumstances would have to change for the Government to seek a 
fresh mandate in Parliament.
That prompted an angry response for Mr Hammond, who said it was a “bit 
rich” for Labour to demand a timetable for a new vote after “trooping 
into the lobbies” behind Ed Miliband to ensure that the Government’s 
motion was not passed.
Labour sources on Monday night said their position is “unchanged”.
“The use of force by the UK has been ruled out by the Government,” a 
source said. “The Prime Minister made clear immediately after the vote 
that the UK will not take part in military action in Syria.”
Nick Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister, has said that he “can’t foresee 
any circumstances” in which MPs could vote again on action in Syria.
Mr Hammond also dismissed Labour criticism following the disclosure of a 
chemicals trade deal with Syria signed months after the bloodshed 
started in the country.
He said that the business department issued licences for the export of 
sodium fluoride and potassium fluoride to the war-torn country in 
January last year before revoking them several months later.
It came as a poll by ComRes for ITV News showed that nearly 60 per cent 
of Britons believe that Mr Cameron was “reckless” to propose military 
action without knowing if he had the support of Parliament. An ICM poll 
for the BBC meanwhile found that 71 per cent of voters thought MPs were 
right to stop the Government participating in a military response.
In a further development Jesse Norman, a member of Mr Cameron’s Downing 
Street policy unit who failed to back the Government in the Commons, 
suggested that intelligence was released too late and that some MPs did 
not trust it.
In an article for the Conservative Home website, Mr Norman, whose job is 
thought to be under threat, drew parallels to the build-up to the Iraq war.
“The present Government would never stoop to the depths plumbed in 
2002-3,” he wrote. “But is it any wonder that the British people, and 
British parliamentarians, have found themselves pausing at the 
last-minute publication of excerpts from intelligence sources, including 
the JIC [Joint Intelligence Committee]?”

 del voto francese e peseranno le pressioni di Kerry sul Congresso
 
così come peseranno gli esiti del G20, aggiungo

 cos� come peseranno gli esiti del G20, aggiungo
 
Ti serve una guerra urgentemente vero?
Per sedare gli squilibri psicologici infantili?
 
Guarda che non e' piu' giubbe rosse contro lance e frecce.
Trattasi di migliaia di testate atomiche.
 
 

 Trattasi di migliaia di testate atomiche.
 
non ho capito chi lancerebbe testate atomiche
 


 
Forse non hai ben chiaro quali siano i tempi di reazione di un sistema 
nucleare.
 
Se capita, i missili li lanciano tutti.
Non fai nemmeno in tempo a leggere la notizia sul web.
 
Era molto piu' semplice sparare a un aborigeno australiano disarmato, vero 
britt? 
 
 


 
Comunque, could not. 
 
 

 britt?
 
facevi prima a dire che non le lancia nessuno quindi la minaccia è 
inesistente

 Comunque, could not.
 
?

 
"Lord Curzon" <lord....@curzon.cur> wrote in message 
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Sei proprio tonto, adesso aspettiamo che qualcuno aggredito dal premio nobel 
per la pace, lo faccia.
 
 

 ?
 
Niente seconda votazione Curz. 
 
 

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povero Obama, e pensare che andreste d'amore e d'accordo voi due :-))

 Niente seconda votazione Curz.
 
mah...

 povero Obama, e pensare che andreste d'amore e d'accordo voi due :-))
 
Vero, potremmo fare una partitina a basket. 
 
 

 Vero, potremmo fare una partitina a basket.
 
vi vedrei bene