Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Miti pro-Israeliani demoliti

Forwardo il contenuto di una trasmissione radiofonica
condotta per il Washington Post da Ali Abunimah, un Americano di
origine Palestinese.
Per quanto mi riguarda, il modo con cui ha demolito tutti i
luoghi comuni filo-Israeliani e' fantastico.
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http://discuss.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/zforum/03/sp_world_abunimah012903.htm
St. Paul, Minn.: Does it really matter who wins the Israeli election?
It was Labour who ethnicly cleansed Palestinians from 415 villages in
1948, and while Likud are certainly more overt about confiscating
Palestinian land when they are in power -- and Sharon's past and
recent history both gives additional serious reasons for concern --
from a Palestinian perspective are there any fundamental differences
between the two?
Ali Abunimah: The outcome of the elections makes absolutely no
difference to ordinary Palestinians. Why? What is needed to end this
conflict and bring peace and security to both peoples is a clear and
genuine decision by Israel to completely end the occupation and allow
Palestinians to live in freedom either in an independent Palestine or
in a single state in which all Israelis and all Palestinians enjoy
equal human and political rights. Up to now, no Israeli party or
government has proposed this, and certainly none of those competing in
this election. Amram Mitzna's Labor Party offered nothing but warmed
over Oslo ideas and fell far short of committing to a complete end to
the occupation and the removal of all colonies from occupied land.
Labor did not even commit to stop building settlements let alone
removing those that it helped build. Hence a Labor victory would at
best simply have restored the illusion of a "peace process," while
Israeli bulldozers continued to demolish homes and build settlements.
The outcome of the elections does make a difference to some of the
discredited Palestinian Authority officials who hoped that a Labor
victory might lead to their own personal rehabilitation, and thus a
renewal of the prestige and privileges that they enjoyed in the "good
old days" of Oslo. But for Palestinians on the ground, the secular
trend towards increasing repression and violence by Israeli occupation
forces has grown steadily over the past sixteen years regardless of
which party has been in power. For example, the violence and
collective punishment used by "dovish" Labor prime minister Ehud Barak
was far more vicious than that used by the "hawkish" Likud prime
minister Benjamin Netanyahu, when he was in power. Barak also built
more settlements than Netanyahu according to reliable reports.
Remember, until a few months before the election, the Labor party
ruled in a happy coalition with Sharon, and the hand that signed the
Sharon government's orders to carry out dozens of war crimes and death
squad killings was that of Labor party leader and defense minister
Fuad "Benjamin" Ben-Eliezer. Why should Palestinians suddenly put hope
in such a party?
Texas: Why is it that Arabs can occupy land larger than 1000 Israels
yet the Arabs insist on taking Israel, too? Do you people really think
its that great an injustice for Jews to have a tiny piece of land for
thier own?
Ali Abunimah: Do you think it is fair for Texans to occupy all that
land? Why don't you give Texas to Israel instead? The Palestinians
have a right to live in their native land and not be kicked out like
garbage just because someone else is stronger and think their own God
loves them more. All humans are equal and all have the same rights.
How would you like it if someone came and took your house and threw
your family out and said "there are 49 other states for you to live
in, so pick up and go to New Jersey"?
Brooklyn, N.Y.: Let me get this straight: the Palestinians are upset
that Israel is currently in their towns and cities, yet do nothing to
stop the violence that brought them there? Did the world forget that
on September 28, 2000 there was not a single Israeli soldier in
Bethlehem and Ramallah? Today, as Abu Mazen pointed out, those cities
are in ruins. Could it be the wave of violence against Israeli
civilians had a direct effect on the actions of the Israeli army?
Would it also not follow that opposite actions by the Palestinian
terrorists could similarly have a reverse effect on the Israeli
military? Could it be any simpler? If the Palestinians end the
Intifada, the Israeli soldiers will withdraw from the Palestinian
cities. If that occurs, Sharon will be forced to offer the
Palestinians a viable state, and if he does not, Israel's citizens
will elect a leader who will offer such a deal. Israel is willing to
give, but only if the other side is willing to accept.
Ali Abunimah: To answer your question, allow me to quote from an
article I wrote recently call "On Violence and the Intifada":
"While it must be reaffirmed that Palestinian attacks targeting
Israeli civilians must stop immediately, one has to forget all of
history to believe that these operations are what stand in the way of
progress towards a peaceful solution, and are not in fact simply a
symptom of the violence and despair of life under endless occupation.
Peace, after all, must be made during conflict.
From the beginning of Israel's occupation of East Jerusalem, the West
Bank and Gaza Strip in 1967, through the first Intifada into the early
1990s, there were no suicide bombings. Before the first Intifada,
Israel had near quiet in the Occupied Territories. Liberal Israelis
were content to use Palestinians as a cheap source of labor, and to
visit their occupied towns and cities at weekends to enjoy the
superior hummus. Meanwhile, Labor- and Likud-led governments
assiduously built the infrastructure of military occupation and
colonization with the explicit purpose of making a withdrawal
impossible....
According to the Israeli human rights group B'Tselem, from the
beginning of the first Intifada in 1987, until the signing of the Oslo
Accords in September 1993, Palestinians killed a total of one hundred
Israeli civilians, half of them inside the Occupied Territories.
During the same period, Israeli occupation forces and settlers killed
more than 1,160 Palestinian civilians -- more than eleven Palestinians
for every Israeli. Israel's lethal response to the civil protests of
the first Intifada are what "armed" or "militarized" the conflict
inside the Occupied Territories. Israel's violence against a
generation during the first Intifada, its grim desert concentration
camps (now reopened for business) and its systematic torture, sowed
what is being reaped today.
Neither the cheap and easy occupation that Israel enjoyed prior to the
first Intifada, nor the vastly better security that Israelis had, ever
induced Israel to loosen its military dictatorship over the
Palestinians, or to slow the pace of violent land confiscations and
colony construction."
In other words it has always been the case, as it is today, that the
vast majority of the violence is directed from Israel towards the
Palestinian people, and this is still the case today. It is totally
hypocritical of those who call on the Palestinian people to stop
violence to maintain the pretense that Israel -- the invading,
occupying power, which rules the occupied territories solely for the
benefit of its colonists -- is somehow only engaged in "self-defence."
Molde, Norway: Dear Mr Abunimah, 
I fear that the United States and Israel, intend to use the coming war
against Iraq -- which, not so incidentally, will constitute a Crime
against the Peace according to International Law -- to remake the map
of West Asia, and, in particular, that the Israeli government will
utilise the occasion to ethnically cleanse at the very least the whole
the occupied West Bank and the Gaza of Palestinians. Do you find my
fears exaggerated, or do they in your view represent a realistic
appraisal of the type of planning that is now going on in Washington
and Jerusalem?
M. Day, PhD, MD 
Ali Abunimah: It is a fact that parties which openly advocate the
crime of genocide against the Palestinians (the ethnic cleansing or in
Israeli parlance "transfer" of all the Palestinians) did rather well
in the Israeli election (Moledet, National Union), and previously sat
in the Israeli cabinet. I would say that the risk that Israel will
attempt such an atrocity has increased, but it is hard to put odds on
it. It will not be easy for Israel to do it, but nor can we count on
the international community to do much to stop it. It is only
responsible that we pay attention to what pro-ethnic cleansing Israeli
leaders are saying and take them at their word when they call for war
crimes and mass ethnic cleansing.
Glenmont, Md.: If an arab state of Palestine is created in Israel,
then shouldn't arab states such as Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Algeria and
others also be required to carve out sections of their territory for
jewish states to be created and allow the 900,000 Jews they expelled
the "right of return?"
Ali Abunimah: You are correct that hundreds of thousands of Jewish
Arabs were encouraged or forced to leave their native Arab countries
both by Israel and Arab states between 1949 and the late 1950s. In
some cases they left voluntarily, in other cases, official and popular
intimidation inflamed by the Israeli-Arab conflict forced them out,
and in other cases, particularly in Iraq, Israeli and Zionist
saboteurs carried out anti-Jewish campaigns in order to make Jews feel
unsafe so they would go to Israel. Regardless of why these Jews left,
they have an absolute right to return to their native Arab homes, and
to recover any private property that was unjustly seized from them.
They should also have their citizenship and all their rights restored
to them.
Amman, Jordan: With Sharon back in power, isn't it about time that the
palestinians elect a new leader to replace the now defunct Arafat?
Surely there are men of excellent caliber among the Palestinian
leadership. The main name that comes to mind is that of Dr. Mustafa
Barghouti who seems to hold the respect of many Palestinians.
Ali Abunimah: It was clear to many Palestinians that they needed new
leadership long before the United States and apologists for Israel
suddenly became champions of Palestinian "reform." The problem is that
Israeli military dictatorship makes democracy impossible. Palestinians
were due to hold elections on Jan 20th, but Israel decided to make
these elections impossible. Even if they had gone ahead, it is
unlikely they would have really been democractic. Because for true
democracy you need civil society, freedom of movement, freedom of
expression, the freedom to organize and so on. Israel had
systematically destroyed Palestinian civil society, attacked and
closed down schools and universities, arrested, imprisoned and
tortured thousands of political activists and assassinated political
leaders. Obviously democracy cannot exist under such circumstances.
Derwood, Md.: Isn't it true that the Palestinan Authority will never
be a "democracy"? How can Arafat transform his third-world
dictatorship into a democracy? Can Palestinians vote for someone other
than Arafat?
Ali Abunimah: Palestinians living under Israeli military dictatorship
can;t vote for anyone, not even Arafat, because....they live under
military dictatorship.
Washington, D.C.: Will the Palestinian Authority ever hold an election
of their own, or will they join the long line of Arab dictatorships?
Ali Abunimah: They did hold an election in 1994, and wanted to hold
one again on January 20. The Israeli military rulers of the occupied
territories canceled it however.
Vienna, Va.: Ali, 
What is the general reaction in Jordan to Sharon's victory? 
Ali Abunimah: Among the people I have spoken to there is little
surprise or disappointment. In the past people used to see more of a
difference among the Israeli parties. Today they tend to see them all
as part of a whole. Given the amount of bad news that comes daily,
especially the nearly daily bombing of Palestinian neighborhoods, and
near daily killing of children, like 7 year-old Ali Ghureiz who was
killed by an Israeli tank shell in Gaza on Sunday, people aren't
paying much attention to Israeli politics. They are also very worried
about and opposed to a war against Iraq, so that is a very big issue.
Alexandria, Va.: What is the international law on Israeli settlements
and how are these being financed?
Ali Abunimah: The United Nations Security Council has ruled countless
times that Israel, the occupying power in east Jerusalem, the West
Bank and Gaza Strip, is bound by the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949.
Article 49 of this convention (i'm quoting by heart here), "the
Occupying Power shall not transfer parts of its civilian population
into the territory it occupies." The Convention also states clearly
that forced removal of the native population, demolition of homes,
pillage and looting of private property are strictly prohibited. Hence
the entire international community, even the United States, agrees
that Israel's colonies in the Occupied Territories are illegal. By
continuing to build and maintain these colonies, Israel is in material
breach of numerous, binding Security Council resolutions. The
settlements are in large part financed by the US taxpayer, because it
is clear that Israel could not afford to maintain either the
settlements or the military occupation that supports them, without
billions of dollars in free money from hard working Americans every
year. Here is something to think about: every Israeli man, woman and
child gets free health care, and the settlers have a higher standard
of living than any other Israelis. Meanwhile, 44 million Americans who
pay for this have no healthcare at all.
Washington, D.C.: Israel's economy is a shambles, and Prime Minister
Ariel Sharon's inciteful tactics (like the bombing of a crowded Gaza
apartment with a one-ton bomb, killing 14) have clearly done nothing
to improve Israel's security. Why did the Israeli public re-elect
Sharon? How long can Israel sustain these tactics before going back to
the negotiating table?
Ali Abunimah: Why did the Israeli public reject the so-called "peace
parties"? This is a good question.
The Israeli Labor party and left generally, discredited and destroyed
themselves by lying both to the Palestinians and to the Israeli
people. To the Palestinians, Labor said it wished to withdraw from the
Occupied Territories and make peace. Instead, during the years of the
so-called peace process, Labor governments doubled the number of
Israeli colonists squatting on occupied Palestinian land. To the
Israeli people, the Labor party said "you can have peace and security
without really giving up the occupation, without really dismantling
the settlements, without really ending our domination of millions of
Palestinians, and without ever acknowledging Israel's primary
responsibility for the expulsion and exile of three quarters of the
Palestinian population in 1947-48, and without ever redressing those
injustices. The biggest lie nurtured by the Israeli left is the
totally discredited myth that at Camp David, Israel made a "generous
offer" that Arafat refused, thus launching the Intifada. The Israeli
left clings to this fiction in order to absolve itself of the primary
responsibility for missing the chance offered by the historic
compromise the Palestinians made in 1993, when the PLO recognized
Israel and agreed to a Palestinian state in just twenty-two percent of
Palestine/Israel, even though just a few decades ago Palestinians
owned more than 90% of the land and were the overwhelming majority of
the population. Labor missed this chance and chose settlements instead
of peace. For this it seeks to blame the Palestinians, a people whose
levels of malnutrition have reached those of Congo, and whose entire,
devastated economy barely adds up to what Israel spends on settlements
alone in a single year.
So now a traumatized and deceived Israeli public believes that they
gave "peace" a chance and they were rewarded only with terror. In
reality, the Palestinians never had a single day of freedom, a single
day without torture, a single day without bulldozers plowing up their
land, a single day without occupation forces controlling every aspect
of their lives. But during the Oslo years, Israelis didn't want to
hear about it. They wanted to believe that the occupation was over and
peace would be at hand just because Israel had subcontracted some of
the dirty work of occupation to Arafat.
I refer you to Electronic Intifada's "Debunking Six Common Israeli
Myths" for detailed analysis of the Camp David myth and other issues.
Redland, Md.: Is the Palestinian Authority a free-society that
respects freedom of speech and the rights of womens and minorities?
Why does the Palestinian Authority draft constitution state that Islam
is the official religion when there are 50,000 Palestinian Christians?
Ali Abunimah: Why is Israel a "Jewish state" when 20% or more of its
population are not Jews? I oppose all established religion and would
not want an eventual Palestinian state to have any official religion.
Having said that, Christians are an integral part of Palestinian
society and the Palestinian struggle for freedom, and the importance
of Christianity as part of Palestinian society, history and culture
cannot be overstated.
Washington, DC: While you attack the Israelis' democracy, will there
ever be a comprehensive condemnation by the Arab-American
establishment of the complete and utter lack of democracy in the Arab
League?
Ali Abunimah: I don't know what a "comprehensive condemnation is." If
I asked you if there would ever be a "comprehensive condemnation of
Israel's war crimes by the Jewish American establishment, what would
you answer?"
Look, the Arab American community, just like every other community in
North America is extremely diverse. People debate these issues all the
time. And we do call for democracy all the time. I just watched a
really interesting panel discussion on Al-Jazeera with a number of
Arab Americans discussing President Bush's State of the Union speech.
There were several sharp criticisms of the lack of democracy in Arab
states. This is entirely common.
Bethesda, Md.: Of the various coalitions being discussed in Israel,
which (if any) do you think is most likely to lead to productive
discussions between Israel and the Palestinians? Perhaps the secular
coalition (Likud+Labor+Shinui)?
Ali Abunimah: I do not see any coalition combination that will lead to
productive discussions between Israel and the Palestinians. none of
the parties support the minimum that is required for peace: a genuine,
complete end to the occupation (as opposed to simply disguising the
occupation as Barak proposed verbally at Camp David). I think that
peace will only come with international intervention to require Israel
to end the occupation, or when Israel's disasterous policies wreak
such economic and moral havoc on Israeli society that the occupation
can no longer be sustained.
Lexington, Kentucky: When the Palestinians hold elections, they are
also elections that profoundly impact on the daily life of Israelis,
so why are you presenting the issue that Palestinians cannot vote on
Israeli elections as something out of the ordinary?. Mexicans don't
vote on US elections nor Palestinians on Israeli elections nor Israeli
on Palestinian elections. Just grow up.
Ali Abunimah: I said that Palestinians can't hold their own elections
because Israel rules them by military dictatorship. Perhaps you
misunderstood me.
St. Louis, Mo.: In a best-case scenario, given the parties and
politicians currently active in Israel, who would you have liked the
Israeli public to have voted?
Ali Abunimah: As a Palestinian, I do not arrogate to myself the right
to pick Israel's leaders, unlike Israel which feels it has the right
to pick the leaders of the Palestinians. I do not see this as a
problem of leaders. It is about issues: will Israel end its military
dictatorship over the Palestinians and stop seizing and colonizing
their land? If yes, there will be peace, if not conflict will continue
for ever.
Chicago Ill.: When was the last democratic election held in Jordan? 
Ali Abunimah: The last parliamentary election held in Jordan was, I
believe, in 1997. It certainly was not completely democratic although
the elections which have been since 1989 held were a step in the right
direction. Right now the parliament is dissolved and no new date for
elections has been set. This is very unfortunate and democratic
elections ought to be held as soon as possible.
New York, NY: Everyone could notice there's an inequality between the
Israeli army and the Palestinians. To avoid Palestinians to use
desperate measures such as human bombs in suicide operations, wouldn't
it be better to either impose an arms embargo on both Israel and the
Palestinians, or provide the Palestinians with an equal amount of arms
as the Israelis so that they can offer proper protection for its own
civilians? What would your advice be?
Ali Abunimah: The best thing would be for the international community,
and the United Nations Security Council to enforce international
decisions requiring an end to Israel's occupation peacefully. In the
absence of that, the Palestinian people have an absolute,
internationally recognized right to resist military occupation
(although, and I want to emphasize, this does not include attacks on
any civilians). Obviously if Palestinians had access to adequate means
to defend themselves against Israel's hi-tech army, they would not
resort to the sorts of low-tech weapons they use. In the best case
Israel would abandon the path of violence that it has chosen since it
began its rule over the Palestinians, and Palestinians would
reciprocate.
New York, NY : You believe Israel is violating numerous "binding
Security Council" resolutions in regards to settlement construction.
But not a single resolution pertaining to Israel is under Chapter VII
of the UN Charter or any other Chapter which creates binding
resolutions. So how exactly is Israel violating binding resolutions?
Ali Abunimah: This is a legal fiction created to excuse the United
States of its double standard where it uses war to enforce resolutions
against Iraq, while rewarding Israel with my hard-earned money for
violating binding resolutions. As well as all the Security Council
Resolutions, the Fourth Geneva Convention is binding, and the 15 "High
Contracting Parties," which include the United States are legally
bound to take action against parties, like Israel, that violated it.
Washington, D.C.: Do you thing the Bush administration will be more -
or less - likely to grant Israel's request of $14 billion in increased
military aid and loan guarantees to the government of the reelected
and re-indicted war criminal?
Ali Abunimah: That depends on whether U.S. tax payers sit back quietly
and let it happen.
Ali Abunimah: A few of the questioners seem eager to point out the
lack of democracy in the Arab world. That's absolutely fine with me,
since I support democracy everywhere. But let's take a look at
Israel's "democracy" too, since we are so often told it is the "only
democracy" in the Middle East.
The facts are these: Today there are about ten million people living
under Israeli rule in Israel, and the Occupied West Bank and Occupied
Gaza Strip. About half of these people are entitled to vote in Israeli
elections. Of those who can vote, more than one million are
Palestinian citizens of Israel who are discriminated against legally
and in every sphere of economic and social life. Another 3.5 million
people -- Palestinians in the occupied territories -- live under a
brutal Israeli military dictatorship with no human rights at all.
None. Period. They are not even citizens of the state that rules them
by military force alone. Military dictatorship is absolutely the worst
form of tyranny. Israeli journalist Gideon Levy asked in Ha'aretz on
27 January:
"What sort of democracy is this, if exactly half the state's residents
don't benefit from it? Indeed, can the term "democratic" be applied to
a state in which many of the residents live under a military regime or
are deprived of civil rights? Can there be democracy without equality,
with a lengthy occupation and with foreign workers who have no rights?
And what about the racism?"
His answer: "Democracy exists only for the state's (proven) Jewish
residents. That is, for about 5.3 million people, half of the 10.6
million people who live here. They are the only intended beneficiaries
of the rule of law, freedom of expression, civic freedoms, equality
before the law and a fair and just legal system."
Prior to the election, Israel's Central Election Commission banned two
Arab parties from competing in the elections allegedly because of
statements their leaders had made, while at the same time allowing the
candidacy of a violent, pro-ethnic cleansing settler leader. This
decision, which would have destroyed even the facade of democracy that
Israel puts on, was reversed by Israel's high court.
This latest election revealed the extent of the corruption in Israel's
political system, and the personal corruption of Sharon and his two
sons Gilad and Omri. Israel is in sum a country that rules millions of
people by military force, denying them any basic rights. At the same
time, it allows a privileged sub-group to enjoy political rights based
on their membership in the ethno-religious ruling group. Some people
have called this "ethnocracy" rather than democracy. Another term for
it is apartheid.
St. Louis, Mo.: Does the military occupation of the West Bank and Gaza
Strip facilitate the popular support for Islamic Jihad and Hamas? And
if so, how? Also, is there reason to believe that the popular support
for these organizations promotes the agenda of Israel's political
right-wing?
Ali Abunimah: Obviously if you brutalize millions of people, rob them
of their land, demolish their homes, torture them, imprison them by
the thousands, shoot them down like stray dogs and say you are doing
all this because God is your real estate agent, you are going to fuel
the most extreme movements. Hamas and Islamic Jihad came into being
after the occupation began. Hizbullah was created in Lebanon to fight
the Israeli occupation. Occupation incites against itself and fuels
hatred, because occupation is hatred. Occupation is violence. The
argument that "the occupation can only end when the violence ends"
means in effect that the occupation is self-justifying and will last
forever.
Sarajevo, BiH: Dear Ali Abunimah: 
As someone whose worked in both the Palestinian and Israeli areas, let
me say that I really hope both sides will find peace soon. It's a
tragedy and waste of time for all concerned.
Here's my question: what practical next steps are there? I oftentimes
find myself in arguments with others about this issue, and in the end
I find we were basically both on the same side all along: two
independent states (with a lot of contentious details to work out).
But, I wonder if the peace process is doomed because some members of
both sides don't really believe in having two states living together?
Ali Abunimah: Both sides? Remember that the Palestinians committed
themselves to a state in only east Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza
Strip. These areas form just 22% of historic Palestine, which until
1948 had an overwhelming Palestinian majority, and in which
Palestinians owned 90% of the land. So Palestinians made an enormous
historic compromise, essentially abandoning the lands from which three
quarters of their population were expelled or fled. Instead of
gratefully accepting this unbelievable generosity, Israel's response
has been that even this is too much for the Palestinians, and Israel
has continued to colonize these areas. The Palestinians explicitly
accepted this compromise and recognized Israel in 1993. Israel by
contrast has rejected it and continued to build and bulldoze every
single day.
Today there are roughly five million Jews in Israel/Palestine and five
million Palestinians. Soon Palestinians will once again be a clear
majority. Either Israelis and Palestinians must embrace eachother and
live in one democratic state, like White and Black South Africans did,
or Israel must genuinely end the occupation. So far neither solution
has ever been on the table, and more and more Israelis are seeking to
hide from this fundamental choice by supporting such ideas as ethnic
cleansing. I'm sorry if that answer is not terribly practical.
Arlington, Va.: Why is it that we hear so much about the lack of a
Palestinian state, while the world ignores the lack of a Kurdish
state? There are more Kurds in the world than Palestinians.
Ali Abunimah: I am not particularly wedded to the idea of a
Palestinian state for the sake of it. I am however entirely committed
to Palestinian freedom, human rights and full equality. If that can be
achieved by Israelis and Palestinians living together in one united,
democratic state encompassing all of Israel/Palestine that is
absolutely fine with me. But since it is Israel that insists on a
"Jewish state," which gives special rights to Jews and treats everyone
else as second class citizens, the only way Palestinians can achieve
their rights in their homeland is by seeking a state of their own.
I absolutely support the human and political rights of Kurds in
exactly the same way as I support those of Palestinians. Kurds ought
to be able to achieve full human and political rights in Turkey,
Syria, Iran, etc. If they cannot, or they are not permitted to then
perhaps they ought to have a state.
Falls Church,Va: Just wanted to let you know that I find EI to be a
valuable resource, and a way of getting perspectives of events from
newspaper all over the world. I find it ironic that the English
version of the Israeli paper Ha'aretz, lets us know more about what
Israel is doing to destroy Palestinian society than our own press in
the United States.
Ali Abunimah: Thank you. For those who haven't yet done so, please do
visit The Electronic Intifada. We all work hard to put it together,
and so its really rewarding to read comments like yours.
Jackson, Miss.: How can anyone even pretend to seek reasonable
policies from the US government, when so many of its key officials,
and so many of the major media executives, are Israeli-Americans?
(FYI, it would be better to use this label instead of "Jews," tends to
invoke fewer/different emotions.)
Ali Abunimah: I think it is wrong in all cases to stereotype people
because of their ethnicity or membership in one or another group.
Remember that some of the bravest voices against the cruel injustices
perpetrated by Israel have been Jewish and Israeli. When we make
blanket statements like this we not only perpetrate the sorts of
injustice that are routinely committed against Palestinians, Arabs and
Muslims, but we make those brave voices even more difficult to hear
and make dialogue impossible. We also disempower ourselves when we
believe that any group has magical power that cannot be penetrated or
resisted. Remember, we are opposing ideas, deeds and policies, not
human beings.
No group has a monopoly on bad conduct or good conduct. 
Ali Abunimah: A few final words: the situation is very bleak, but not
hopeless. We should never give in to despair. I still believe that a
devastating and unnecessary war in the region can be avoided, but we
all need to speak out. We need to remember that here in Jordan, back
in the U.S., over in Palestine, Israel, Iraq, everywhere, the vast
majority of ordinary people don't want war. The way to peace and
security is not through war, occupation, death squads, suicide
bombings, but through justice. Justice comes when the strong share
with the weak. In the Israeli-Palestinian context it means Israel must
give up its monopoly on power and come to terms with the people in
whose homeland it was established. The Palestinian offer of a
far-reaching compromise in which Palestinians have a tiny state in the
West Bank and Gaza is still on the table. But it won't remain viable
for long as Israel continues to spread its colonies all over the
place. Will Israel have the courage to grasp this last chance before
it becomes a total apartheid state? Will Israel's friends have the
courage to push it in the right direction? We will know soon enough.
In the meantime, thank you all for your questions, and I hope to be
back here again soon.

at all.
Se lo dice lui :)
Va beh, visto che e' lungo lascio ad altri rispondere al resto delle
ca***te che sono state scritte :)
-Stefano

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Azz... La mancanza di senso dell'ironia di certe persone :))
-Stefano