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Titolo: Mostrare la verita' vale il lavoro

Tami Silicio, che lavorava per una compagnia che contratta con
l'esercito
USA e' stata licenziata in tronco
(
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001909527_coffin22m.html
)
il suo crimine:
Aver scattato la foto a 
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2001906977.jpg
e mostrato al mondo i risultati della politica di Bush.
Le regole dell'esercito USA vietano di fotografare le bare che
stanno copiosamente ritornando sul suolo americano.
W la liberta!
GT

stanno copiosamente ritornando sul suolo americano.
Che sia "copiosamente" lo dici solo tu.
-Stefano

 quanto lei affermi il contrario.
Non mi sembra che le foto siano irrispettose nei confronti dei morti per il
conflitto!
Le hai viste??  Salvo che io ne abbia perse alcune....
Marco

Le hai viste??
Cosa?
-Stefano

 stanno copiosamente ritornando sul suolo americano.
Non e' vero, lo dice anche l'articolo:
*we do not allow any media coverage of any of the stops until (the
casket) reaches its final destination," said Cynthia Colin, a Pentagon
spokeswoman.*
Le bare possono essere fotografate all'arrivo.
Ale
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La foto riprendeva l'interno di un aereo con le bare anonime perfettamente
allineate e ricoperte ognuna dalla bandiera americana.
Se per te questa e' mancanza di rispetto....chissa' che cosa sarebbe la foto
di un bus israeliano sventrato con macchie di sangue da tutte le parti.
andrea

le parti.
Il nesso tra le due cose?
-Stefano

 ha scritto nel messaggio
news:40891028...@people.it...
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Ti aiuto.....non c'e alcun retroscena; si tratta semplicemente di due
diverse situazioni di morte.
andrea

 Le bare possono essere fotografate all'arrivo.
Non proprio:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/South/04/22/mortuary.photos.ap/index.html
(con altre foto di bare)
Pentagon angered by photos from military mortuary
 
DOVER, Delaware (AP) -- A Web site published dozens of photographs of
American war dead arriving at the nation's largest military mortuary,
prompting the Pentagon to order an information clampdown Thursday.
The photographs were released last week to First Amendment activist
Russ Kick, who had filed a Freedom of Information Act request to
receive the images.
Air Force officials initially denied the request but decided to
release the photos after Kick appealed their decision.
After Kick posted more than 350 photographs on his Web site, the
Defense Department barred the further release of the photographs to
media outlets.
"They're not happy with the release of the photos," Dover Air Force
base spokesman Col. Jon Anderson said.
The photos were taken at the Dover base -- home to the mortuary -- and
most of the images are of flag-draped coffins.
Defense Department rules prohibit media coverage of human remains
arriving at Dover, and Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Gary Keck said
release of the mortuary photos appears to be in conflict with
department policy.
Defense officials said the purpose of the policy is to protect the
privacy of the soldiers' families -- not to circumvent or violate the
Freedom of Information Act or any other law.
"Quite frankly, we don't want the remains of our service members who
have made the ultimate sacrifice to be the subject of any kind of
attention that is unwarranted or undignified," said John Molino, a
deputy undersecretary of defense.
At a rally in Dover last month, war protesters criticized President
Bush for continuing the practice of previous administrations of not
allowing the public or media to witness the arrival of remains at the
base.
"We need to stop hiding the deaths of our young; we need to be open
about their deaths;," said Jane Bright of West Hills, California,
whose 24-year-old son, Evan Ashcraft, was killed in combat in July.
Telephone and e-mail messages to Kick were not immediately returned
Thursday.
In a related incident, a cargo worker was fired Wednesday by a
military contractor after her photograph of flag-draped coffins
bearing the remains of U.S. soldiers was published on the front page
of Sunday editions of The Seattle Times.
Tami Silicio, 50, was fired by Maytag Aircraft Corp. after military
officials raised concerns about the photograph taken in Kuwait, said
William L. Silva, Maytag president.
Silicio took the photograph in a cargo plane about to depart from
Kuwait International Airport earlier this month.
She sent the photo to a stateside friend who provided it to the
newspaper, which then obtained permission from Silicio to publish it.

diverse situazioni di morte.
Ripeto la domanda: il nesso tra le due cose?  Che si tratti sempre di
morti non mi pare un collegamento significativo.
-Stefano

Non proprio:
Invece sembra proprio di si. Infatti nessuno e' stato licenziato.
Resta comunque valida la scelta di non permettere foto fino a quando i
corpi non sono arrivati alle famiglie.
-Stefano

 
Questo lo ignoro in quanto di foto del genere ce ne sono eccome 
"purtroppo"...
bye
DonJuan

 
effettivamente sarebbe stato quantomeno opportuno aspettare almeno che 
arrivassero a destinazione come si fa normalmente...

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Che mi sembra una scelta piè che sacrosanta e doverosa specie per chi ha 
dato la vita per la libertà e per i propri cari.
Bye
DonJuan

 morti non mi pare un collegamento significativo.
E pensare che io ci ricasco periodicamente e mi illudo che tu sia una
persona intelligente !
andrea

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C'e da dire che le famiglie di soldati morti sono GRATI per quelle
foto.
Ovviamente, non sono loro a decidere...
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000498198
Father Who Believes Son is in 'Coffin' Photo Thanks 'Seattle Times'
for Running It
By Greg Mitchell
Published: April 28, 2004 11:05 AM EST
NEW YORK The father of a U.S. Army soldier killed in Iraq earlier this
month, who believes his son was in one of the caskets shown in the now
famous Tami Silicio photograph, has written a letter to The Seattle
Times thanking the newspaper for publishing the picture that broke a
Pentagon ban.
"Hiding the death and destruction of this war does not make it easier
on anyone except those who want to keep the truth away from the
people," the father, Bill Mitchell, wrote yesterday. The letter has
not yet been published.
In a postcript to the letter, he added: "I would be willing to help
that poor woman in Kuwait [Silicio] who lost her job over the picture
which she felt needed to be seen. Possibly even with enough press
coverage, the other parents who lost children on the same day as my
son would also feel that she did a service for us."
E&P received a copy of the April 27 letter from Mitchell, father of
SSG Michael W. Mitchell, 25, who was killed on April 4.
Publication of the photo in the Seattle Times (the image now appears
on the homepage of E&P Online) sparked controversy, with many
newspapers endorsing the move but some public officials, including
President Bush, and military leaders arguing against showing the
caskets without permission of the families. The Pentagon has
re-affirmed its ban on such photos, also citing concerns about the
families.
But the father of Michael Mitchell has stepped forward to offer his
approval, believing his son's casket may be in the photo. Mike
Mitchell had served in Iraq for 11 months as part of the 1st Armored
Division.
Bill Mitchell, who lives in Atascadero, Calif., had first contacted
E&P last week after Editor Greg Mitchell (no relation) mentioned Mike
Mitchell by name in the April 8 "Pressing Issues" Web column.
The text of his letter to Hal Bernton, the Seattle Times reporter who
wrote the story that accompanied the Silicio photo, follows:
Dear Hal --
I read with great interest your article regarding the woman who was
fired for taking the pictures of the flag-draped coffins on 4/7/04. My
son, SSG Michael W. Mitchell, was killed on 4/4/04 in the first day of
the Shiite uprising in Sadr City. He was one of eight soldiers killed
that day in that attack. I am quite positive that he was inside one of
those coffins in the picture.
I am happy that you ran the story and showed the picture. I would like
everyone to know the devastation that this event has brought upon
Mike's family and friends. In fact, Mike's grandpa at 86 says that
this is the worst thing that has happened in his entire life -- that
says a lot right there!!!
Hiding the death and destruction of this war does not make it easier
on anyone except those who want to keep the truth away from the
people. I know that the current government policy has the bodies being
flown in under the cloak of darkness. I also know that photographers
are barred from the area so that pictures such as the one you ran in
your newspaper cannot be shown to the people. Pictures such as these
alter peoples' perception and awareness and they have to admit the
reality of the situation that young men and women are being killed.
I do believe our government learned this lesson from the war in
Vietnam and that was one of the influential factors in bringing about
its end.
Things are getting worse in Iraq and if there is anything that I can
do so that other parents can be spared the pain that is happening in
my life, I will do it.
In fact, I would be willing to furnish you a picture of my son in his
casket if you would like to run it in your paper. Sort of a follow-up
story that would just take it one step further than the picture shown
inside the airplane with a bunch of anonymous flag-draped coffins. I
don't think I can be fired, as I do not have a job!!! I am currently
in Germany taking care of my son's fiancee because officially, she is
not recognized by the U.S. Army even though she was the reason that he
re-enlisted twice; the last time being just 3 weeks prior to his
death.
Hal -- I am just full of stories and if you and your newspaper are
interested, just let me know.
Sincerely,
Bill Mitchell
Atascadero, CA
Mitchell also notes that donations in his son's memory can be sent to
the Mike Mitchell Memorial Fund c/o Santa Lucia Bank, 7480 el Camino
Real, Atascadero, CA 93422.
The soldier was scheduled to be married in August. In a flyer for the
Memorial Fund, his father writes: "Mike had a heart the size of a
basketball and he so much loved to spend time with his family and
friends. He ate healthy, ran daily (he even went for a run on the
morning of his death), did not drink, smoke or do drugs. Mike was a
serious fisherman and enjoyed camping, hiking, and backpacking. Of
those that love Mike so, our world has been turned upside-down."

foto.
Come al solito il nostro disinformatore di Torrieri cerca di far passare
l'opinione di UN SINGOLO PADRE, che per giunta non e' nemmeno sicuro che
vi fosse suo figlio in quelle bare, come l'opinione de "le famiglie di
soldati morti". :)
Oltre a questo il morto e' il figlio e non il padre.  Il rispetto va al
morto e non ad altri.
-Stefano