Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Talking terms with Tehran (Guardian)

Per uscire dall'Irak la sola soluzione sembra dialogare con Iran e Siria 
e l'UK fa da go between. Ma e' una situazione precaria, vista la 
diffidenza che ispira il programma nucleare di Teheran ad IL. 
Blair cerchera' di collegare tutti i vari aspetti, Palestina compresa in 
un negoziato regionale.
 Frattanto gli emissari di Al Quaeda stanno tornando il UK per una nuova 
stringa di attentati in quello che e' diventato l'obiettivo 
privilegiato, dopo che gli US si sono corazzati.
Sembra quasi di assistere ad una riedizione dei negoziati di Parigi sul 
Vietnam (con il bombardamento dell'Iran nel pacchetto come extrema 
ratio) ma con il terrorismo in occidente come wild card che bilancia 
l'uso della forza.
Una situazione non scontata, checche' ne dicano i lacrimanti del NG.
Frattanto a Bagdad siamo all'iper-guerra civile, cioe' alla pulizia 
etnica.
Am.
Talking terms with Tehran
Simon Tisdall
Monday November 13, 2006
Guardian Unlimited 
Judging by tonight's Guildhall speech, Tony Blair believes Britain and 
the US can set the terms of an expanded dialogue with Iran. Many in 
Tehran will find this surprising. Even the most unworldly mullah knows 
this sudden urge to chat reflects Anglo-American weakness, not strength.
Mr Blair wants to encourage Iran and its close ally, Syria to assist 
Middle East peace efforts, not just in Iraq but also Lebanon and 
Israel-Palestine. If they refuse, he says, they will face further 
isolation. Like George Bush, the prime minister has declined to rule out 
military action against Iran's nuclear facilities. These are hardly 
confidence-building measures.
Iran has offered wide-ranging talks on several occasions since the 
post-revolution rupture with Washington, including an offer to the Bush 
administration in 2003. It has been routinely rebuffed. A US plan to 
talk solely about Iraq also fell through. Tehran maintains diplomatic 
relations with Britain but high-level contacts remain unusual. When 
Mohammad Khatami, Iran's reformist former president, visited London this 
month government officials avoided him.
The renewed uproar over British casualties in Basra, rebellious talk by 
British military commanders, and last week's Iraq-inspired Republican 
electoral rout in the US are further indicators of weakness that will 
not be lost on Tehran. Likewise, transatlantic efforts to punish Iran in 
the UN security council for its uranium enrichment programme are at a 
halt due to Russian opposition.
Responding to talk about talks, Tehran's official spokesman, 
Gholam-Hossein Elham, yesterday set out an uncompromising opening 
position for any future negotiations. "We hope the US will withdraw from 
the region, abandon its hegemonic policies, end its support for 
terrorist groups and Israeli state terrorism, and give a positive 
response to the demand of regional nations calling for peace and 
justice," Mr Elham told the Islamic Republic News Agency.
Tehran continues meanwhile to threaten retaliation over any UN 
sanctions, reject Washington's criticism of its support for Hizbullah in 
Lebanon and Hamas hardliners in Palestine, and identify the 
Israel-Palestine conflict as the root cause of Middle East problems.
Mr Elham's statement almost exactly mirrored US demands on Iran - and 
was equally beside the point. Britain and the US want Iran to use its 
influence to help end arms smuggling into Iraq, curtail sectarian and 
insurgent violence, and persuade Shia militias to support coalition 
nation-building.
Like more thoughtful Iranians, Mr Blair has also consistently (and 
vainly) argued that in the longer term Israel-Palestine must be resolved 
if there is to be a lasting regional settlement. That lies behind his 
recent move to engage Syria and his forthcoming regional tour. He will 
have a chance today to persuade a supposedly more amenable Mr Bush and 
his Iraq Study Group, although Israel's government will fiercely oppose 
concessions to Tehran.
For these and other reasons some Iranian officials argue that a basis 
for dialogue exists if handled carefully. As Mr Khatami pointed out 
during a speech at Chatham House in London, Iran and its Anglo-American 
sparring partners have more in common than they sometimes think, 
notwithstanding President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's inflammatory anti-Israel 
tirades.
Both want a secure, unified Iraq. This is particularly the case for 
Iran, Saddam's prime external victim. Both want a stable Afghanistan. 
Both would, in theory, welcome a Palestinian state, an end to bilateral 
sanctions, and stepped-up regional foreign investment. In such a context 
of improving cooperation, even the nuclear issue might prove less 
intractable.
"We have common goals. There has been a huge misunderstanding between 
the two sides, between the Islamic and western worlds," Mr Khatami said. 
"We are all suffering from insecurity, everywhere, in the London 
Underground, in Africa, in Pakistan, in Sudan, in the twin towers. 
Together we need to examine the roots of insecurity."
But for it to work, Bush-Blair bombast and prickly Persian pride must 
first be set aside.

 
cazzo c' entra Al Quaida con l' Iran lo saprai tu e Bush

 cazzo c' entra Al Quaida con l' Iran lo saprai tu e Bush
Al Quaeda combatte gia' in Irak, e probabilmente a Gaza, minaccia l'UK, 
e altri paesi europei  quindi e' gia' il convitato di pietra, come altri 
fondamentalisti islamici combattenti di una conferenza regionale in MO.
Sei pregato di esprimerti decentemente, se vuoi delle risposte. 
Am.

 
ROTFL,disse lo sprezzante  borgataro...

 ROTFL,disse lo sprezzante  borgataro...
To' tu saresti un antimperialista dei quartieri alti, fesso? 
Io ti vedo piuttosto come marchettaro di extracomunitari, 
CheccaIsterica... 
Am.

 fondamentalisti islamici combattenti di una conferenza regionale in MO.
Ti stai facendo solo propaganda spazzatura a favore di terroristi ben più 
terribili di al qaueda.
Per ogni cosa che succede si dice che siano sempre loro.
Si chiama strategia della tensione e serve a giustificare le "guerre furto" 
della mafia globale

amalric ha scritto:
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LOL,ecco come parla il tizio che desidera un linguaggio decente dagli
altri