Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Try again Hamid!

#_*Seconda* formazione di Governo respinta!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8462916.stm
Afghan MPs reject many new Karzai cabinet nominees
Afghan MPs held a secret ballot for Saturday's crucial vote.
The Afghan parliament has rejected 10 of 17 new cabinet nominees suggested 
by President Hamid Karzai.
The vote comes two weeks after MPs turned down most of Mr Karzai's first 
choices, dealing him a serious blow.
Two key posts were approved - Mr Karzai's former security adviser Zalmay 
Rasul as foreign minister and Habibullah Ghalib as justice minister.
However, MPs backed only one of the three women nominees, Amina Afzali, as 
work and social affairs minister.
The two women put forward for the posts of public health and women's affairs 
were rejected.
The BBC's Mark Dummett, in Kabul, says Mr Karzai had hoped to have his new 
cabinet in place before a crucial donor conference in London on 28 January, 
but that now appears impossible.
However despite the setback, the president now has 14 of 24 ministers 
confirmed including the most powerful ones in charge of foreign, defence and 
interior ministries, our correspondent adds.
It is not yet clear when the president will propose names to fill the vacant 
positions and when Parliament will vote for these candidates.
'Democracy in action'
MP Dawoud Sultanzoy was upbeat after the vote.
"I think democracy is in action," he said.
"We may not like individual results, but the overall system that is in play 
and the overall pattern that we are following is good for democracy. We 
cannot manicure this thing at this stage.
"This is a very young democracy. Overall it's a healthy process."
After the first vote on 2 January, Mr Karzai ordered MPs to cancel their 
winter break to speed up progress towards getting a functioning government 
in place.
The rejection of 17 of Mr Karzai's 24 original choices was seen as a blow to 
his authority, already damaged after an election marred by fraud in August.
The new list included none of the previously rejected nominees.
MPs spent the last week questioning the new candidates ahead of Saturday's 
vote, which was carried out by secret ballot.
Some had complained that candidates were not suitably qualified or that 
others were too closely aligned to warlords.
Mr Karzai faces strong international pressure to create a government that 
can oversee reforms.
The UN has said international funding for Afghanistan's parliamentary 
elections this year will depend on reform of the country's election 
institutions.
Mr Karzai is also under pressure to form a government before a crucial donor 
conference in London on 28 January.
Also on Saturday, President Karzai met separately with British Foreign 
Secretary David Miliband and US special envoy Richard Holbrooke in Kabul.
Mr Holbrooke said he and Mr Karzai had discussed the issue of reintegrating 
thousands of Taliban fighters into Afghan society. Mr Holbrooke said he 
believed it was a "good plan".
The Afghan government is expected to announce details of the plan soon. 
Diplomats said it would include job training and money to lure fighters from 
the hills.

 Am.
#_Mah! Tu usa pure la logica dell'oloturia.
Io ho pazienza, per brother Zia niente cambiera`lo stesso!...Gli altri 10 
nomi per altrettanti posti di Governo, uno alla volta o tutti insieme, 
verranno imposti dai talebans e si tornera`al 2000...Back to step one!
_I 40 anni di permanenza per la santa armata crociata sono assicurati e il 
figlio Kadir crescera`fino alla maturita`in mezzo alle cluster bombs, felice 
e contento. 

 quindi dell'omicidio della democrazia (e dei soldati italiani)
soldati italiani e democrazia? Se difendono il territorio dello stato,
forse. Se occupano l'Afghanistan? Naaaah....

 Beh, non e' proprio la stessa cosa, quelli erano fascisti.
ma anche crucchi (x ben 2 volte), ma anche rumeni, ma anche ungheresi,
ma anche francesi (x ben 2 volte anche loro, sono proprio de coccio),
ma anche finlandesi, ma anche slovacchi, ma anche spagnoli (anche loro
x ben 2 volte, e pure gli italiani)..e siccome i britt non vogliono
essere mai secondi a nessuno, hanno pensato di battere il record
franco-tedesco-ispano-italico facendosi incornare 3 volte (ma anche 4,
ormai) in Afghanistan.

 ha scritto nel messaggio 
news:2cff60fd-e81e-4895...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
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secondo me hai un po' di confusione... :-) 

 Kashmir anche Indiano.
il Kashmir è pashtun? Da quando?

 QED. Non sai niente.
io me lo ricordavo sikh....

 Am.
nel caso italiano pi� che altro si tratta di ignoranza a livello spinto e 
propaganda politica di bassa lega. Sarebbero solo da compatire se non 
fossero dannosi.... Si prestano ad essere marionette degli appetiti 
geostrategici altrui senza comprenderne assolutamente le ragioni e le 
implicazioni. Utili idioti da tastiera... :-) 

distanza che si fa giustizia...
come al solito non capisci nulla. I comunisti come te non si rendono conto 
che quelli che tu osanni come i poveri oppressi un tempo erano oppressori 
senza scrupoli. Semplicemente non hanno mai colmato il gap tecnologico e per 
un certo periodo sono stati assorbiti dalle potenze dominanti. Pertanto il 
bene o il male forse si dovrebbe misurare su altri parametri e la storia 
dovrebbe essere considerata in maniera meno partigiana e quale una 
evoluzione temporale della societ� umana.
Forse per� � chiedere troppo alla tua conclamata ignoranza...