Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Re: NAMIB & Co : DOVE SIETE FINITI ?

 Perche' questo silenzio Namib ?
Veramente Namib ti ha già risposto. Sordo?
Namib

 
Io sono qui e non credo proprio che abbia votato il 72% degli iracheni...
beato chi ci crede

Ecchecavolo : sono elezioni.....
Perche' questo silenzio Namib ?
Stai scendendo nei sotterranei ?
Kairaddin

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#_hahahah...e...huahuahuah...il 72 e`uscito!
e chi l'ha comunicato?...La commissione di ispettori internazionale alle 
elezioni??? LOL
Comunque ti presento gli argomenti che in maggior misura figurano nei 
programmi dei candidati:
Candidato No1:
Se vincero` le elezioni mi impegnero`affinche` nei nostri ospedali arrivino 
le necessarie medicine e faro`in modo che gli occupanti se ne vadano prima 
possibile.
Candidato No2:
Se mi date il voto, io mi impegnero`affinche` in tutte le case torni a 
scorrere l'acqua dai rubinetti come tre anni fa e chiedero`all'ambasciatore 
USA di intercedere per il ritiro di tutte le truppe occupanti il paese.
Candidato No3:
Presento la mia candidatura, perche`concentrero` il mio impegno sulla 
"nutrizione" fisica ed educativa,  dei nostri figli, cibo e scuole,  a 
partire dai piu`giovani e faro` di tutto perche` il nostro paese sia libero 
da truppe estranee.
Candidato No4:
Se riusciro` ad avere il vostro supporto, finalmente smetteremo di accendere 
di notte le lampade a petrolio(un liquido diventato improvvisamente 
abbastanza raro da noi) e riavremo finalmente l'elettricita`ovunque; potremo 
cosi` leggere, finalmente,che i portatori di questo aborto di democrazia 
hanno fatto le valige e son partiti.
Giano

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/31/2335/87390
U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote :
Officials Cite 83% Turnout Despite Vietcong Terror
by Peter Grose, Special to the New York Times (9/4/1967: p. 2)
WASHINGTON, Sept. 3-- United States officials were surprised and
heartened today at the size of turnout in South Vietnam's presidential
election despite a Vietcong terrorist campaign to disrupt the voting.
According to reports from Saigon, 83 per cent of the 5.85 million
registered voters cast their ballots yesterday.  Many of them risked
reprisals threatened by the Vietcong.
The size of the popular vote and the inability of the Vietcong to
destroy the election machinery were the two salient facts in a
preliminary assessment of the nation election based on the incomplete
returns reaching here.
Pending more detailed reports, neither the State Department nor the
White House would comment on the balloting or the victory of the
military candidates, Lieut. Gen. Nguyen Van Thieu, who was running for
president, and Premier Nguyen Cao Ky, the candidate for vice president.
A successful election has long been seen as the keystone in President
Johnson's policy of encouraging the growth of constitutional processes
in South Vietnam.  The election was the culmination of a constitutional
development that began in January, 1966, to which President Johnson
gave his personal commitment when he met Premier Ky and General Thieu,
the chief of state, in Honolulu in February.
The purpose of the voting was to give legitimacy to the Saigon
Government, which has been founded only on coups and power plays since
November, 1963, when President Ngo Dinh Deim was overthrown by a
military junta.
Few members of that junta are still around, most having been ousted or
exiled in subsequent shifts of power.
Significance Not Diminished
The fact that the backing of the electorate has gone to the generals
who have been ruling South Vietnam for the last two years does not, in
the Administration's view, diminish the significance of the
constitutional step that has been taken.
The hope here is that the new government will be able to maneuver with
a confidence and legitimacy long lacking in South Vietnamese politics.
That hope could have been dashed either by a small turnout, indicating
widespread scorn or a lack of interest in constitutional development,
or by the Vietcong's disruption of the balloting.
American officials had hoped for an 80 per cent turnout.  That was the
figure in the election in September for the Constituent Assembly.
Seventy-eight per cent of the registered voters went to the polls in
elections for local officials last spring.
Before the results of the presidential election started to come in, the
American officials warned that the turnout might be less than 80 per
cent because the polling place would be open for two or three hours
less than in the election a year ago.  The turnout  of 83 per cent was
a welcome surprise.  The turnout in the 1964 United States Presidential
election was 62 per cent.
Captured documents and interrogations indicated in the last week a
serious concern among Vietcong leaders that a major effort would be
required to render the election meaningless.  This effort has not
succeeded, judging from the reports from Saigon.
NYT. 9/4/1967: p. 2.

 NYT. 9/4/1967: p. 2.
BWAHAHA! Carina questa...
(Salvo che in Irak ci sono 3 lotte di liberazione contrastanti)
Am.

 Officials Cite 83% Turnout Despite Vietcong Terror
Splendida scoperta! Complimenti! :)
Namib

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A quanto pare non e' la prima volta
Time Magazine, 19 March 1956
(reprinted in Time Capsule / 1956) "To the beating of drum
and gong, 86.4% of the eligible voters in South Viet Nam
last week went to the polls to elect the country's first
National Assembly. Result: a landslide victory for President
Ngo Dinh Diem's National Revolutionary Movement. [. . .] the
election was no mere formality. [. . .] The most telling
sign of Diem's increasing strength was the Communist failure
to make a threatened show of force."

http://www.dahrjamailiraq.com/hard_news/archives/hard_news/000192.php
January 31, 2005
Some Just Voted for Food
Inter Press Service
Dahr Jamail
BAGHDAD, Jan 31 (IPS) - Voting in Baghdad was linked with receipt of
food rations, several voters said after the Sunday poll.
Many Iraqis said Monday that their names were marked on a list provided
by the government agency that provides monthly food rations before they
were allowed to vote.
"I went to the voting centre and gave my name and district where I
lived to a man," said Wassif Hamsa, a 32-year-old journalist who
lives in the predominantly Shia area Janila in Baghdad. "This man
then sent me to the person who distributed my monthly food ration."
Mohammed Ra'ad, an engineering student who lives in the Baya'a district
of the capital city reported a similar experience.
Ra'ad, 23, said he saw the man who distributed monthly food rations in
his district at his polling station. "The food dealer, who I know
personally of course, took my name and those of my family who were
voting," he said. "Only then did I get my ballot and was allowed to
vote."
"Two of the food dealers I know told me personally that our food
rations would be withheld if we did not vote," said Saeed Jodhet, a
21-year-old engineering student who voted in the Hay al-Jihad district
of Baghdad.
There has been no official indication that Iraqis who did not vote
would not receive their monthly food rations.
Many Iraqis had expressed fears before the election that their monthly
food rations would be cut if they did not vote. They said they had to
sign voter registration forms in order to pick up their food supplies.
Their experiences on the day of polling have underscored many of their
concerns about questionable methods used by the U.S.-backed Iraqi
interim government to increase voter turnout.
Just days before the election, 52 year-old Amin Hajar who owns an auto
garage in central Baghdad had said: "I'll vote because I can't afford
to have my food ration cut...if that happened, me and my family would
starve to death."
Hajar told IPS that when he picked up his monthly food ration recently,
he was forced to sign a form stating that he had picked up his voter
registration. He had feared that the government would use this
information to track those who did not vote.
Calls to the Independent Electoral Commission for Iraq (IECI) and to
the Ministry of Trade, which is responsible for the distribution of the
monthly food ration, were not returned.
Other questions have arisen over methods to persuade people to vote.
U.S. troops tried to coax voters in Ramadi, capital city of the
al-Anbar province west of Baghdad to come out to vote, AP reported.
IECI officials have meanwhile 'downgraded' their earlier estimate of
voter turnout.
IECI spokesman Farid Ayar had declared a 72 percent turnout earlier, a
figure given also by the Bush Administration.
But at a press conference Ayar backtracked on his earlier figure,
saying the turnout would be nearer 60 percent of registered voters.
The earlier figure of 72 percent, he said, was "only guessing" and
"just an estimate" that had been based on "very rough, word of
mouth estimates gathered informally from the field." He added that it
will be some time before the IECI can issue accurate figures on the
turnout.
"Percentages and numbers come only after counting and will be
announced when it's over," he said. "It is too soon to say that
those were the official numbers."
Where there was a large turnout, the motivation behind the voting and
the processes both appeared questionable. The Kurds up north were
voting for autonomy, if not independence. In the south and elsewhere
Shias were competing with Kurds for a bigger say in the 275-member
national assembly.
In some places like Mosul the turnout was heavier than expected. But
many of the voters came from outside, and identity checks on voters
appeared lax. Others spoke of vote-buying bids.
The Bush Administration has lauded the success of the Iraq election,
but doubtful voting practices and claims about voter turnout are both
mired in controversy.
Election violence too was being seen differently across the political
spectrum.
More than 30 Iraqis, a U.S. soldier, and at least 10 British troops
died Sunday. Hundreds of Iraqis were also wounded in attacks across
Baghdad, in Baquba 50km northeast of the capital as well as in the
northern cities Mosul and Kirkuk.
The British troops were on board a C-130 transport plane that crashed
near Balad city just northwest of Baghdad. The British military has yet
to reveal the cause of the crash.
Despite unprecedented security measures in which 300,000 U.S. and Iraqi
security forces were brought in to curb the violence, nine suicide
bombers and frequent mortar attacks took a heavy toll in the capital
city, while strings of attacks were reported around the rest of the
country.
As U..S. President George W. Bush saw it, "some Iraqis were killed
while exercising their rights as citizens."

                    Il 01 Feb 2005, 19:52, 
luno...@hotmail.com
 ha scritto:
Votare per la tessera annonaria.
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E chi non vota la prende da Osama?
Se veramente e' cosi' siamo ai tempi di Benito.
Tessera del partito o fai la fame.
Idem con Stalin e Hitler si intende.
Saluti Cad Ali' cittadino del quarto reich
 
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