Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: A 29 anni dalla liberazione di Saigon, il liberatore avvisa gli Americani

29 anni fa, con la caduta di Saigon, il Vietnam fu liberato dal regime
coloniale Statunitense.   Uno dei principali fautori della
liberazione, ora
ha qualche consiglio da dare ai suoi ex-nemici.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040430.wgiap0430/BNStory/International/
Legendary Vietnamese general offers warning to U.S.
Associated Press
POSTED AT 4:37 PM EDT 	Friday, Apr. 30, 2004
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Hanoi — The frail and tiny man who defeated two superpowers returned
to the spotlight Friday to talk of triumphs past and deliver words of
warning to the Americans at war in Iraq.
"Any forces that would impose their will on other nations will
certainly face defeat," said Vo Nguyen Giap, the legendary general
whose strategies wore out the French colonial regime and then the U.S.
army.
General Giap is 92 now, the last of Vietnam's giants in a 30-year war
to shake off colonial rule and unite the country under communism. What
brought him to a rare meeting with journalists was two landmark
anniversaries: The fall of Saigon on April 30, 1975, and the defeat of
French colonial forces at the epic siege of Dien Bien Phu, 50 years
ago next Friday.
With critics of the Iraq war likening it to America's Vietnam
experience, Gen. Giap's opinion was eagerly sought, but the man
considered one of history's foremost military strategists prefaced his
reply with caution, saying he didn't know the specifics of the Iraqi
situation.
He offered this: "All nations fighting for their legitimate interests
and sovereignty will surely win."
Gen. Giap emphasized that the major powers of today shouldn't
underestimate weaker countries' desire for independence.
Vietnam "proves that if a nation is determined to stand up, it is very
strong," he said. "We are very proud that Vietnam was the first colony
that could stand up and gain independence on its own with the victory
of Dien Bien Phu."
Gen. Giap lives a reclusive life in a gardened French colonial villa
near the mausoleum of Ho Chi Minh, his schoolmate and later the
president of the country. The white-haired soldier came to the news
conference at the government guesthouse in central Hanoi wearing an
eggshell-white uniform with no medals attached.
Speaking Vietnamese and French, he was relaxed and animated during a
two-hour session, pumping his fist, wagging his finger, cracking
jokes, thanking Americans who opposed the Vietnam War, and reminiscing
about his days as a fighting revolutionary.
Gen. Giap had no military background or training when Ho Chi Minh
chose him to command the Viet Minh army. A history professor and
one-time journalist, he had joined the struggle against French
colonial rule at age 14. His wife had died in a French prison.
But his gut instincts and natural talent were proven during the
pivotal battle at the border outpost of Dien Bien Phu.
Gen. Giap's Chinese advisers told him to strike hard and fast, but he
opted for slow, steady ambushes and the unexpected, like having his
troops drag heavy artillery, piece by piece, over steep mountain
passes to surround the French.
The 56-day siege ended with the French surrender on May 7, 1954,
ultimately ending France's rule in Indochina and inspiring
anti-colonial fighters around the world. But peace would remain
elusive.
The day after Gen. Giap's victory at Dien Bien Phu, a telegram arrived
from Ho Chi Minh that said: "The victory is really great, but it's
just the beginning."
The country had been partitioned, and American troops began arriving
to defend Washington's South Vietnamese ally against communist-ruled
North Vietnam. That war lasted until April 30, 1975, when Saigon,
capital of South Vietnam, fell to communist forces.
As revolutionaries fighting in the jungle, Gen. Giap said that he and
Ho Chi Minh simply dreamed of a country free of foreign domination.
Back then, "Vietnam was an enslaved country. The only free place was
in the jungles and behind our enemy's back. Modern Vietnam is much
different. Vietnam today is a country of freedom, unity, independence,
democracy and peace," he said.
The country is still under the one-party communist system inherited
from Ho, who died in 1969, but the trappings of capitalism are
everywhere as the country of 80 million strives to mesh into the
global economy.
The changes were evident from the ornate French colonial guesthouse
where Gen. Giap used to meet Ho Chi Minh, and to which he returned to
bask briefly in his former glory.
Across Ngo Quyen Street stands the elegant, restored Metropole Hotel,
now filled with American and other foreign tourists. A store nearby
sells French wines.
Roads once filled with bicycles are now clogged with
cellphone-wielding youths on motorbikes. Neon signs and flashy
billboards, Internet cafes and trendy restaurants dot the capital.
Dien Bien Phu has also grown and modernized, as Gen. Giap saw when he
recently visited there and met a few surviving veterans of the battle.
"I am more than 90 years old. I never thought I'd have another
opportunity to visit Dien Bien Phu," he said. "I had very strong
emotions — memories of those who had fallen."

Hanoi — The frail and tiny man who defeated two superpowers
*ROTFL*
Abbiamo sentito la ca***ta del giorno portata dal solito disinformatore
chiamato Torrieri! :)
-Stefano

 coloniale Statunitense.
Radioso giorno, in cui centinaia di migliaia di vietnamiti per sfuggire ai
liberatori si gettarono in una disperata fuga nell'oceano.
A d'I

 ha scritto nel messaggio
news:qoMkc.176823$rM4.7...@news4.tin.it...

Arduino, una vera visione narrow minded. Sembra di leggere un opuscolo di
propaganda (es. Pravda, Padania, Libero, Secolod'Italia, Liberazione,...).
Ho anche deciso di classificare i tuoi messaggi secondo un possibile IQ:
questo ottiene il punteggio di 37.
Beste Gruesse
K&K Cecco B.

 chiamato Torrieri! :)
Tu come lo chiameresti Giap?
De Cesari,  l'aggettivo che meglio ti descrive e' *stolto*.
Ale

 eggshell-white uniform with no medals attached.
Reclusive e' proprio l'aggettivo giusto: da anni il vecchio generale e' 
praticamente agli arresti domiciliari ed esce in pubblico solo scortato 
da due giovani ufficiali che, quando Giap dice qualcosa che puo' non 
piacere al regime, dichiarano che il generale e' stanco e lo portano via.
Ciao
Ale

 De Cesari,  l'aggettivo che meglio ti descrive e' *stolto*.
Se lo dici tu... :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

 "sconfitto gli USA" da solo? :)
La tua coglionaggine raggiunge nuovi abissi.
Ale

 De Cesari,  l'aggettivo che meglio ti descrive e' *stolto*.
Inizio anche a pensare che sia privo di sistema nervoso: e'
impossibile prendere tante botte da tutti i fronti e non
manifestare dolore alcuno.

"K&K Cecco Beppe" <KKC...@beppeKK.it> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:MPMkc.32855$Qc.12...@twister1.libero.it...
Superiori al 140 sono quelli che dicono che i vietnamiti si sono gettati in
mare dalla gioia.
Ciao
Ad'I

La tua coglionaggine raggiunge nuovi abissi.
....disse il bue all'asino...
-Stefano