Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: un post americano, da soc.culture.usa

Ogni tanto, come molti ho tendenza a dimenticarmi che il 48% degli 
americani hanno votato *contro* Bush e che la loro amarezza e' grande.
Tenere sotto occhio soc.culture.usa e soc.culture.british mi fa 
l'effetto che non stiamo a strapparci le vesti da soli in questo NG.
Why Bush, a modern-day mass murderer, cannot be my president.
Why Fallujah is a war crime. Why more crimes will be committed.
Why the Iraqi war is lost. Why the war should never have been started.
Why Bush and Cheney must and will kill many more.
Fallujah, another war crime is now nearly finished:
Mechanized armies attacking and destroying Iraqi cities.
They call that 'liberation'.
The barbarians wanted to set an example in brutal punishment.
And Fallujah really was the major insult to the American oocupier.
So you destroy it, that will teach them a lesson!
You destroy it so that the civilian population will hardly
be able to return to the ruins. If they cannot return, they
cannot support resistance fighters. As in Vietnam where whole villages
were transplanted to concentration camps to deny the enemy their
base and support groups. As in Vietnam where huge tracks of forests
were killed (they always used the euphemism 'defoliation') to deny 
sanctuary, cover and bases.
Then Fallujah as the center and symbol of Iraqi resistance is finished. 
That is the murderous plan.
It will not work. But many thousands more of Iraqi people will 
have to die the coming months. Because more war crimes are in the 
making.  Many thousands more will die, in their own country and in 
their own cities. The bombing by western mass murderers 
('liberators')will continue and will even escalate.
The Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld warmonger team is very predictable.
Cheney, the architect of 3 wars already, will always order more
killing, and Bush is just a racist Texan/simpleton and
follower who dislikes muslims, so he is in total agreement.
That is the team that got us in this mess and being stupid,
incompetent and evil they will surely increase the mess.  
From the Guardian:
 
"It is already possible to glimpse the future through the smoke of this 
battle: The military operation was formally authorised by Mr Allawi, 
while a deliberate effort is being made to play up the role of Iraqi 
troops - prompting wry reflections on the speed with which the 
Saddam-era army was disbanded by the occupation authorities last year."
(It is claimed that many of the Iraqi soldiers are really Kurds
and Shiites, being manipulated into attacks on their Sunni enemies. 
Divide and conquer. Use the enemies of your enemies to do some of 
the fighting for you) 
"It is also alarming to consider that the government is using emergency 
powers, like so many other Arab regimes, that would have been normal 
in the bad old Ba'athist days. It is important to remember that most 
of what we will know about the fighting will come from journalists 
embedded with the US forces, while we will inevitably hear less about 
what it feels like to be on the receiving end of their vastly superior 
firepower. Reports last night referred to victims being buried in 
graves in Falluja's municipal soccer stadium, in a grim echo of the 
siege of Sarajevo. The most we can probably hope for is that this 
Iraqi battle will be fought with care, restraint and speed. 
But there are precious few grounds for optimism that it will."
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All reports on TV show the same video clips. Of course all controllled
and released by the Pentagon. We will only see what they want us to 
see. That is full censorship. They call it 'embedded reporting'.
It keeps the people ignorant and compliant. They will never count 
the Iraqi deaths, they will never show you the total destruction of a 
city that housed 300,000 people, they will never show you the blood
and horror. They will never show you the wasteland they will leave
behind.
They will never show you satellite photographs of the destroyed city.
They will never show you the mangled bodies, the babies buried in rubble,
or incinerated soldiers or fighters. The ignorant masses must not be 
shown anything that could arouse opposition or utter disgust with an 
illegal immoral horrible colonial war.
The occupier is now compounding the war crimes.
Just 5 days after the mass murderer was re-elected, the war of
occupation = the war of 'pacification' was escalated.
We knew all along that would happen and that Fallujah would just be
the first one in a string of cities that will be pulverized.
They will bomb cities with aircraft, artillery, gunships, tanks,
and destroy most of the buildings. Then they go in with infantry in
the hope that most resistance fighters will have been buried in the 
rubble. That is what they call 'precision' targeting to spare
civilians. They also call that 'minimizing collateral damage'.
The number of Iraqis killed does not matter. They are the enemy.
They now even attack mosques and hospitals. They now even start
rounding up all men between 15 and 55, then imprison most of them.
The concentration camps and prisons are never shown.
And that is done by an occupier who has no right to be there.
There is no difference between a Roman legion
'pacifying=conquering' a faraway region of the empire, and our country
wreaking havoc in Iraq.  The same motives, the same illegality,
the same type of mass murder. Abuse of technology to bomb and kill
a foreign people in submission. It is never about liberation.
It is all about expansion of empire, greed and control.
Stephen Hawking, Kofi Annan, Nelson Mandela, and many others have
called the attack on Iraq by its true name: A war crime.
We know that for our leaders Iraqi lives do not count, so a 'body
count' is never necessary, only a count of our own military deaths.
Iraqi civilian and military deaths, in their own country,
do not count. Using Powell's words from long ago: That is not a
number we are interested in.
We must protest the phallacy of 'liberating' Iraq by killing many
more of them and by destroying their large cities. It is a lie. 
It is a big mistake. The violence all over Iraq will escalate. 
Knowing Bush he will then escalate in return.
That is the 'man' he is. 
A fool, always in denial, always opting for more violence.
That is the man considered to have 'moral' values and 'integrity'
(if you can believe the 59 million ignorant 'christians' who voted for 
this mental case who is leading them in killing more muslims)
He may then win many more battles = destroying many more cities, 
but the war is lost because it cannot be won ---> Because he does not
have the Iraqi people on his side: 
The occupiers are the enemy!
He can try to destroy it all ('to save it we have to destroy it', 
as in Vietnam) in order to save face, but the international uproar,
condemnation, scorn and ramifications will be horrendous.
There could well be riots in the streets in the coming years. 
It may also stir up many more terrorists all over the world. 
What you sow (by executing illegal wars) you may or will reap. 
Our leaders really think that by killing enough resistance fighers 
(they always call them 'insurgents' or 'terrorists' or 'killers'
or 'thugs' or 'foreigners', never Iraqis, never resistance fighters, 
never nationalists) they can force a military victory. 
It is way too late for that.
It cannot be achieved. They are trapped, so they must destroy.
The only results then will be thousands upon thousands more
Iraqi dead, likely many hundreds of our soldiers dead, and
dozens of Iraqi cities destroyed - with hundreds of thousands of 
civilians displaced, killed or wounded. And a war that will last 
for many more years. However as in Lebanon -- on a much smaller scale, 
it is doomed to fail. As it failed in Vietnam.
The mass murderers at the top should never have started this horrible
colonial war. A major strategic mistake and a terrible crime that
will cost our country dearly, for decades to come.
It is occupation, killing, and keeping control, with the
longterm geopolitical objective of controlling the oil, the bases
and the business over the coming decades.
It is really state-sanctioned mass murder and attempted robbery. 
Never in the interest of the Iraqi people. Of course, our leaders will 
always claim it is for Iraqi 'democracy' and for the Iraqi 'people'.
We know better.  
We understood Hitler's lies, and we surely understand Bush's lies.
That is why this mass murderer cannot be my president.
That is why this mass murderer will never be able to offer real 
solutions. 
It will be more of the same --- and that is death and destruction.
CCDarwin

 l'effetto che non stiamo a strapparci le vesti da soli in questo NG.
Purtroppo gli idioti ignoranti non esistono solo in Italia ne seguono
solo ng italiani.
La riprova e' il post che hai riportato :)
-Stefano

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#_tu ne sei una costante riprova col tuo dialogo fisso tra "bue e asino".
G. 

 solo ng italiani.
disse l'idiota ignorante :)