Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Cancellare Israele dalla carta geografica

From this basic position, the drafters derive their insistence on
cultural, religious and educational autonomy. It also underpins their
demands for separate representation in international forums and a veto
right on domestic issues that concern them as a group.
The significance is far reaching: Israel would forfeit its Jewish
character. Indeed, the drafters of the document urge Israel to forego
its Jewish symbols of state - for example, the flag with the Star of
David and the"Hatikvah" anthem, which expresses the Jewish yearning
through the ages for a return to Zion.
The new document would seem to have widespread Israeli Arab support: It
was drafted by the Supreme Arab Monitoring Committee and endorsed by
the Arab Local Authorities' Committee, two bodies that represent a
wide spectrum of Israeli Arab opinion.
Many Israeli Jews were stung and deeply disappointed by the document.
For them, the raison d'etre for the establishment of the state was to
create a national homeland for the Jewish people. Few would be willing
to consider, far less to discuss, forfeiting its Jewish character.
In a bitter article in Ma'ariv, journalist Dan Margalit captured the
widespread frustration at the direction Israeli Arab thinking seems to
be taking.
"It's very sad and a great pity," he wrote. "We were wrong to
harbor illusions. They [Israeli Arabs] are impossible."
Israeli intellectuals point out that if the thesis of a binational
Israel were adopted, it would mean that in a two-state solution of the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict - Israel and Palestine living
side-by-side in peace - the Palestinians would have one-and-a-half
states, the Jews only half a state.
Why are Palestinians entitled to full statehood and Jews not? they ask.
A recently published book, "Whose Land is This?" edited by veteran
Ha'aretz columnist Uzi Benziman, tells another sad story: How leading
thinkers on both sides, aware that Jewish-Arab relations were on a
collision course, failed to formulate a common basis for dialogue and
coexistence.
Between January 1999 and January 2001, 12 Israeli Jews led by Hebrew
University Law Professor Mordechai Kremnitzer and eight Israeli Arabs
led by Adel Manna, director of the Jerusalem-based Van Leer
Institute's Center for the Study of Arab Society in Israel, made a
Herculean effort to draw up a Jewish-Arab covenant that would take the
sting out of ties between the two communities.
Both sides showed goodwill and significant progress was made. But the
Israeli Jews threw up their hands in despair when the Arab side refused
to recognize Israel as a Jewish state, in precisely the same way as the
drafters of the new document are refusing to do today.
Disillusionment about Jewish-Arab ties in Israel was exacerbated by the
recent Lebanon war, which underscored the huge disparity in basic
sensibilities. Many Israeli Arabs accused Israel of a
"disproportionate response" to Hezbollah attacks, and they openly
sided with the Lebanese militia, even though they often bore the brunt
of its haphazard rocket attacks.
"During the recent war, a line was crossed: Arab Israelis did not
hesitate to openly express their support for the enemy and preferred
their ties to the enemy over their obligations to the state of which
they are citizens," Benziman wrote in Ha'aretz, arguing that the
main reason for this was "their refusal to recognize the legitimacy
of the Zionist idea - a refusal that is nourished by the foolish and
evil policy of discrimination adopted by all Israeli governments."
Arab intellectuals acknowledge that the core of the argument is indeed
over the legitimacy of the Zionist idea. Manna says even if there were
no discrimination, the Israeli Arab demand for autonomy would remain.
The growing alienation from the Jewish state has been accompanied by
increasingly radical statements and actions by Israeli Arab political
leaders. Soon after the Lebanon war, Knesset member Azmi Bishara led a
delegation to Syria and Lebanon to express solidarity for the Arab side
in the war.
Riad Saleh, leader of the Israeli Arab Islamic Movement's radical
northern wing, declared that Jerusalem soon would be the capital of an
Islamic caliphate. Saleh often attempts to whip the Israeli Arab public
into a frenzy by warning of imaginary Jewish plots to destroy the
Muslim holy places on Jerusalem's Temple Mount.
Shawki Katib, head of the Supreme Arab Monitoring Committee, maintains
that the aim of the eight-chapter document is not to present an
ultimatum, but rather to spark debate on how the two communities can
best live together.
Some Israelis take heart from this approach. Likud Party legislator
Michael Eitan, who was one of the 12 Israelis who failed to draft a
Jewish-Arab covenant, said he remains optimistic precisely because
"the debate has not yet begun."
In any such dialogue, Eitan said, the sides tend to present tough
opening positions as a bargaining ploy. If serious talks take place,
Eitan said he was confident the two sides would be able to reach
agreement within the basic parameters of Israel as a Jewish and
democratic state.

entirely Arab.
Cioe' pulizia etnica in Palestina ma binazionalismo in Israele.
D'altronde che aspettarsi da una manica di *COGLIONI*, spesso
antisemiti.
-Stefano

entirely Arab.
Cioe' pulizia etnica in Palestina ma binazionalismo in Israele.
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 -Stefano
Cenolli Leda.
Cenolli Leda.
SBRRRRRRRRRUOOOTFL,ripasso di qua solo per salutarti, feccia imperitura
d'Usenet
ahahahahhhhabwahaahbwahahahahahhahahah
Leda...che ammove.

 Cenolli Leda ha scritto:
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Non infierire, il pirladeipirlafottimamacoglionesupremo č stato duramente
redarguito per la bovina insolenza con cui si spendeva su altro NG ( di
"sentimenti" se non erro ), e da esso allontanato.
Ora soffre.
E cerca rimedio come puň. 
L'asino. Preso a cornate dal bue. 
Non mi par bello bearsene, Net!
 
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E cerca rimedio come può. 
Non so a te, ma a me l'idea di un decessis in calze velate e toppino
d'angora (stile Ed Wood) mette i brividi.
E poi hai notato l'assonanza del nick con il nome della nostra augusta
residente, Micia Tigre?
Sono cose che fanno riflettere e intristiscono.
-- 
Zarabeth (Klingon-Mode on)... Be afraid, be VERY afraid.
-bortaS bIr jablu'DI' reH QaQqu' nay'-
Remove YOURPANTS to contact me.

 Sono cose che fanno riflettere e intristiscono.
Provo a debellare la repulsione immonda innescata dalle immagini che mi
fornisci ( per il quale affronto prima o poi ti chiederò ragione ), e
rispondo : in realtà l'assonanza di cui parli non parmi rimarchevole ed
alla nostra "augusta residente" son da riconoscersi taluni meriti ( non so
se hai mai osservato la sua produzione pittorica nella quale non si fatica
ad individuare una buona mano ... ).    
Al ben noto truogolo di letame invece ( "ildecessi" ) cosa assegnare se
non la palma della coglionaggine più irriverente ed insulsa?
E comunque si, son cose che fanno riflettere....fra un conato e l'altro
... 
Saluti.
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