Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Lo scollamento tra Corbyn e l'opinione pubblica inglese


 
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IN EVRO NVLLA SALVS

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ma adesso il regime per squalificare i pochi coraggiosi politici che osano fare quello che chiede la maggioranza degli elettori, che è il fondamento della democrazia, ha l'ordigno fine di mondo: da oggi la democrazia è populismo, e quindi è male.

Vorrei solo ricordarvi che un politico che riflette l'opinione pubblica americana e' Donald Trump. Immagino a Bombacci piaccia come presidente degli USA tanto quanto a me piace, non so, il nuovo CD di Adele.

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la questione in realta' e' un po' piu' complicata. E' vero che i favorevoli all'intervento armato sono scesi dal 59% al 48% nello periodo tra gli attentati di Parigi e il dibattito di queste ore. Ma e' anche vero che la posizione di Corbyn sulla guerra non ha fatto guadagnare alcun consenso al suo partito. Anzi.
In ogni caso. Dalla newsletter del Times di oggi. 
 
 
Rising doubts over war 'not helping Corbyn'
 
The results of The Times poll today will be seized upon by Jeremy Corbyn as a sign that his campaign against airstrikes is gaining ground.
 
But the poll does not appear to be helping him. It  also showed support for the Labour leader dropping sharply. The proportion of voters who think he is doing well has fallen from 30 per cent to 24 per cent in seven days.
 
Peter Kellner, president of YouGov, writes in The Times that in just seven days five million people have joined the ranks of those opposed to airstrikes in Syria. "But if Jeremy Corbyn is tempted to rejoice at this, he should beware. He is paying a heavy price for these gains, with support for Labour slipping and his own personal rating crashing from bad to terrible.
 
YouGov's latest survey for The Times shows that voters are increasingly impressed by the case against war - but, at the same time, increasingly appalled by the way he is leading his party."
 
Overall the poll finds that the proportion opposed to airstrikes has increased by 11 points, from 20 per cent to 31 per cent, with 21 per cent still undecided. The gender gap has widened sharply: men now favour action by more than two to one (58 against 26 per cent), while women divide evenly (39 to 36 per cent).
 
It also suggests that doubts are growing in the public mind over whether airstrikes by the coalition will be effective in defeating Isis. The proportion who say that they are "not effective" has risen from 37 per cent a week ago to 42 per cent.
 
The numbers of those who believe Isis poses a threat remain almost unchanged, rising one percentage point to 86 per cent. The debate has polarised along party lines. Corbyn and Nigel Farage have spoken against airstrikes, and now 42 per cent of Labour voters are against bombing, 16 points higher than last week.
 
Nearly a third of Ukip voters are against, 21 points higher, and 13 per cent of Conservative voters are opposed, an increase of 3 points.
 
Patrick Kidd, The Times sketchwriter, has been doing some research . He suggests that for many MPs, "eager to deploy the full force of their own voice", today's marathon will be nowhere near long enough.
 
In 1982 parliament needed less than three hours to debate whether to send a task force to regain the Falklands but yesterday they lined up to harangue Chris Grayling, leader of the Commons, for allocating only the equivalent of the first three parts of Wagner's Ring Cycle to this debate. Plenty want Götterdämmerung as well, even if it brings the house tumbling down.
 

 Vorrei solo ricordarvi che un politico che riflette l'opinione pubblica americana e' Donald Trump. 
 
ci sono sondaggi che lo danno vincente sia alle primarie che alle presidenziali?