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Titolo: Giubilo israeliano..primo piano rai3

Seguivo la trasmissione "Primo piano" di Rai3
che annunciava le feste degli israeliani (più
che altro le auspicava per dimostrare l'infamità
della gioia per la morte di un uomo...magari scordandosi
che era un "nemico"*) e sono riusciti a mostrare solo
3 o 4 israeliani (quello intervistato non sembrava neanche
sobrio), ma non certo le "naturali folle" che ci si poteva
aspettare. Una cosa che ammiro è la stata la capacità
d'Israele di riuscire a gestire l'evento (magari non troppo
imprevisto ;-) sia al suo interno che verso l'esterno e quindi
i rapporti con i successori di Arafat.
Domanda: sono stati sfortunati gli inviati del tg3 oppure
non ci sono state grosse feste in Israele?
*Se morisse Berlusconi ci sarebbe, in Italia, un casino
tale da far impallidire una vittoria della Nazionale...ma
Arafat era un "eroe" (per il tg3) mentre Berlusconi
un _delinquente_ (per tutti, tranne i leccapiedi)
Ciao!
 

 non ci sono state grosse feste in Israele?
Io dubito che gli israeliani abbiano granchè da festeggiare.Arafat era un 
fossile di un'epoca di panarabismo laico al tramonto e l'unico baluardo 
all'egemonia islamista di Hamas sui territori. Presto a Gaza al posto delle 
sue effigi campeggeranno quelle di Bin Laden e al posto dei sassi nelle mani 
dei ragazzini compariranno le bombe a mano.
M. 

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UNITED NATIONS 
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Fifty-ninth General Assembly
Second Committee
31st Meeting (AM) GA/EF/3094
10 November 2004 
ACCUSED IN SECOND COMMITTEE OF BRINGING PALESTININIAN ECONOMY
TO BRINK OF COLLAPSE, ISRAEL CALLS REPORT PESSIMISTIC, UNBALANCED
In Earlier Debate, Delegates Conclude
Consideration of Developing Countries in Special Situations
Israel's continued occupation of Palestinian territories and its
destruction and exploitation of their resources had brought the
Palestinian economy to the brink of collapse, the Observer for Palestine
said this morning as the Second Committee (Economic and Financial) began
its discussion of permanent sovereignty of Arab peoples in occupied lands
over their natural resources.
She said Israel had continued unlawfully to confiscate Palestinian land,
build and expand its illegal settlements and bypass roads and raze
agricultural land and productive trees.  Israel had diverted water,
destroyed irrigation wells and flattened, since 2000, more than half of
the fertile land in Beit Hannoun, a major agricultural area in northern
Gaza.
Noting that Israel had continued illegally to construct a Wall in and
around East Jerusalem, she recalled that in its advisory opinion of 9 July
2004, the International Court of Justice had ruled that the wall was
contrary to international law, concluding that Israel must halt its
construction, dismantle already-built segments, repeal all related
legislative and regulatory acts and make reparations for damages. 
Palestine called upon States to stop assisting the occupying Power in its
continuing violations and stressed the permanent responsibility of the
United Nations until the question of Palestine was resolved.
Similarly, the representative of the United Arab Emirates said Israel had
continued to impose closures and severe restrictions on Palestinian
movements, destroy infrastructure and agricultural production and demolish
homes, despite numerous international resolutions affirming the
inalienable rights of Arab peoples in the occupied lands over their
natural resources.  Settlement planning zones had absorbed 41.9 per cent
of West Bank land, and Israel had confiscated 45 per cent of the land in
the Gaza Strip for settlements or designated military zones.
Israeli forces and settlers had uprooted hundreds of thousands of olive,
citrus and other fruit trees, he added.  They had destroyed hundreds of
wells and agricultural warehouses, leaving thousands of Palestinians
without a source of income.  In 2003, closure policies had caused heavy
economic losses, leading to 50 per cent unemployment and 63 per cent
extreme poverty among Palestinians.  The international community must
compel Israel to end its aggression immediately and comply with all
relevant United Nations resolutions that called for full Israeli
withdrawal from lands occupied in 1967.
Responding, Israel's delegate noted that the Committee had gathered to
discuss yet another pessimistic and unbalanced report on Middle East
conditions, describing it as replete with inaccuracies and misleading
exaggerations.  A stark example of the report's weakness was its figures
portraying Israel's extravagant and wasteful water use, which were quite
simply wrong.  Total per capita water consumption in Israel was less than
half that defined by the United Nations as the shortage red line.
He added that Palestinians had not lost a single well as a result of the
security fence.  The report's claim that its construction had caused the
loss of 29 Palestinian wells was blatantly incorrect.  Moreover, the
report's assertion that Israeli army activity had damaged water and
wastewater infrastructure was misleading.  Any damage that Israeli forces
had caused in their ongoing campaign against Palestinian terror had been
repaired immediately and in full cooperation with the Palestinian Water
Authority.
The report did nothing to help bring the region's people closer to peace,
with its bias towards one side of the conflict, he emphasized.  Reports
that respected only the rights of one side while stressing only the
responsibilities of the other worsened the already serious conditions in
the region.  The Israeli Government's disengagement initiative, which had
been welcomed by the Quartet [United Nations, United States, Russian
Federation and European Union] and the international community as a whole,
aimed to bring about greater stability and security to both Israelis and
Palestinians.
Prior to the discussion, Sulafa al-Bassam, Chief of the United Nations
Regional Commissions New York Office, introduced the report of the
Economic and Social Commission for Western Asia on the economic and social
repercussions of the Israeli occupation on the living conditions of the
Palestinian people in the occupied Palestinian territory, including
Jerusalem, and of the Arab population in the occupied Syrian Golan.
...
The Second Committee will meet again at 10 a.m. on Monday, 15 November, to
conclude its debate on the permanent sovereignty of the Palestinian people
in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem, and of
the Arab population in the occupied Syrian Golan, over their natural
resources.
Background
The Second Committee (Economic and Financial) met today to conclude its
discussion of countries in special situations, including least developed
and landlocked developing countries.  It was also expected to take up the
permanent sovereignty of the Palestinian people in the occupied
Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem, and of the Arab
population in the occupied Syrian Golan over their natural resources.
Before the Committee was a note by the Secretary-General transmitting a
report of the Economic and Social Commission for Western Asia on the
economic and social repercussions of the Israeli occupation on the living
conditions of the Palestinian people in the occupied Palestinian
territory, including Jerusalem, and of the Arab population in the occupied
Syrian Golan (document A/59/89/E/2004/21).
The report states that Israel's occupation of Palestinian territory has
continued to worsen economic and social conditions for Palestinians. 
Between October 2000 and March 2004, extrajudicial killings resulted in
the deaths of 349 Palestinians and about 8,000 Palestinians remain in
Israeli prisons and detention centres.  Moreover, the Israeli army
destroyed 511 homes in the West Bank from December 2002 to December 2003,
of which 77 were refugee shelters, and completely or partially demolished
at least 858 homes in the Gaza Strip in 2003, of which 776 were refugee
shelters.
According to the report, the movement of goods and persons is restricted,
deepening unemployment and poverty, preventing health care, interrupting
education and generally humiliating the Palestinian people.  Since March
2003, some 85 new checkpoints, 538 trenches, 47 road gates and blockades
and innumerable "flying" (mobile) checkpoints have dissected the entire
occupied territory into disconnected, isolated pockets.  Various
checkpoints, routes and zones have remained closed for extended periods.
Closures and curfews in 2003 led to losses and stagnated trade, increasing
poverty and raising unemployment to 70 per cent in some areas, the report
says.  By the end of March 2003, the median household income had plummeted
by 44 per cent compared to October 2000.  Some 63 per cent of families
borrow informally from friends and relatives to make ends meet and 20 per
cent have sold jewellery and other belongings in an "erosive coping
strategy".  By March 2003, some 42 per cent of families were destitute and
dependent upon humanitarian assistance.
Israel's confiscation of Palestinian land and water resources for
settlements and work on the West Bank barrier increased during 2003,
affecting one third of West Bank inhabitants, the report says.  Some 280
rural communities in the occupied territory have no access to wells or
running water, depending completely on municipal or private water
delivery.  As services are curtailed, malnutrition and other health
problems afflict a growing number of Palestinians, while Israeli
restrictions hamper humanitarian services to the occupied Palestinian
territory.
In the occupied Syrian Golan Heights, the report continues, Israel now
maintains 40 settlements, housing 15,700 Israelis.  According to local
sources, the remaining 18,000 indigenous Syrians control only about 6 per
cent of the original territory under occupation.  Israel prohibits the
remaining Syrians from building needed water infrastructure, and levies
heavy taxes on their water use, land and transportation.  Schools remain
inadequate and children are dropping out at a rising rate to enter the
Israeli labour market, where they receive a lower salary than others doing
the same jobs.
Introduction of Draft Resolutions
...
The Committee then took up its agenda item on permanent sovereignty of the
Palestinian people in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East
Jerusalem, and of the Arab population in the occupied Syrian Golan over
their natural resources.
Introduction of Report
SULAFA AL-BASSAM, Chief, Regional Commissions New York Office, introduced
the report on economic and social repercussions of the Israeli occupation
on the living conditions of the Palestinian people in the occupied
Palestinian territory, including Jerusalem, and of the Arab population in
the occupied Syrian Golan (document A/59/89-E/2004/21).  She said that
Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territory continued to be
the primary cause of conflict.  Israel had more than 136 settlements, with
236,000 settlers in the West Bank.  Another 17 settlements housed some
7,000 settlers in the Gaza Strip, while some 180,000 settlers lived in the
occupied East Jerusalem. 
The West Bank barrier had led to the confiscation and fragmentation of
Palestinian land, giving rise to serious concerns about the future
possibility of an independent PalestinianState, she said.  With the
barrier, Israel would annex most of the western aquifer system, severing
communities from their land and water and leaving them without other means
of subsistence.  Moreover, the imposition of restrictions on the movement
of goods and persons, in addition to curfews, had exacerbated the
humanitarian crisis in the occupied Palestinian territory, deepening
unemployment and poverty and preventing adequate health care and education.
Israel's confiscation and destruction of Palestinian homes and lands had
served to swell the number of homeless and internally displaced
Palestinians by between 13,000 and 16,000 persons during 2003 alone, she
said.  Moreover, Israeli forces had destroyed 10 per cent of Gaza's arable
land.  In the West Bank, the Israeli army and settlers had uprooted
hundreds of thousands of olive, citrus and other fruit trees, and
destroyed 806 wells and 296 agricultural warehouses.  In the occupied
Syrian Golan, Israeli authorities had appropriated most of the land for
military use and settlements.  The remaining 18,000 indigenous Syrian
Arabs had maintained control over only about 6 per cent of the original
territory under occupation.
The economy of the occupied Palestinian territory had reverted to the
status of "war-torn economy", she said.  Humanitarian assistance was
insufficient to ensure a sustainable life with dignity and rights for
Palestinian civilians under occupation.  The only option to address their
current economic and social deprivation lay in lifting the occupation from
the Palestinian territory and the Golan Heights.
Questions and Answers
Responding to a question on how conditions in the occupied territories
affected the Palestinians' ability to meet the Millennium Development
Goals, Ms. AL-BASSAM said that the regional commissions were preparing
reports on the achievement of those goals in their respective areas.  The
reports would be issued in early 2005 and would be available to
delegations.
Asked why the report had not included comments by the Israeli Prime
Minister and the United Nations Secretary-General on expected improvements
in Gaza, she said the report did make references to the
Secretary-General's comments on the situation in that area.  The report
only covered the period July 2003 to July 2004, during which time there
had been no improvement in the situation of the people living in Gaza and
the overall situation on the ground.
Statements
ABDULLAH AL-EMADI (Qatar), speaking in his national capacity, said that
the wall Israel was building in the most fertile zones of the West Bank
failed to conform with international legal norms.  Israeli settlements had
become towns and villages and were now the principal cause of conflict
between Palestinians and Israelis.  The entire world was watching with
concern the deteriorating economic situation in East Jerusalem, where
restrictions were having the disastrous effects of poverty and
unemployment, as well as giving rise to violence.  Many individuals had
lost all hope in the Road Map and the peace initiative.
He expressed concern about Israel's continuing illegitimate occupation and
its effect on living conditions in the occupied territories.  Many
children had been killed and more than 9,000 wounded since 2000.  The
Israelis had carried out arbitrary arrests, and many people had been
tortured in Israeli prisons.  Land had been confiscated and people were
unfairly taxed.
In the Syrian Golan, resources had been depleted, trees burnt, and
chemical wastes buried, he said.  Israeli occupation was leading to
broad-scale destruction, with harmful effects on freedom and employment. 
Qatar strongly denounced Israeli policies that defied Security Council
resolutions, which were the political framework for resuming peace
negotiations.  The international community must encourage Israel to end
its occupation of Palestine and the Golan Heights.
SOMAIA BARGHOUTI, Observer for Palestine, said that Israel's continued
occupation, destruction and exploitation of Palestinian natural resources
had been extensive.  Ongoing serious human rights violations had caused
further deterioration of the situation on the ground.  Israel continued
unlawfully to confiscate Palestinian land, build and expand its illegal
settlements and bypass roads, and illegally construct a Wall in and around
East Jerusalem.  The razing of agricultural land and productive trees,
constant water diversion and destruction of irrigation wells had
continued.  Since 2000, Israel had flattened more than half of the fertile
land in Beit Hannoun, a major agricultural area in northern Gaza, bringing
the Palestinian economy to the brink of collapse.
In its 9 July 2004 advisory opinion, the International Court of Justice
had said that the construction of the wall and its associated regime was
contrary to international law, she recalled.  The Court had concluded that
Israel was under obligation to terminate those breaches, halt construction
of and dismantle already-built segments of the wall, repeal all related
legislative and regulatory acts and make reparations for damages.  The
Wall departed from the 1949 Armistice Line and cut deep into Palestinian
territory, destroying thousands of dunums of Palestinian land, property
and best water wells in grave breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention.  The
international community must ensure compliance with the advisory opinion.
States should not render aid or assistance to the occupying Power,
enabling it to continue such violations, she said.  In that regard, the 19
August 2004 Ministerial Declaration of the Non-Aligned Movement called for
specific actions by the United Nations, MemberStates and the High
Contracting Parties to the Fourth Geneva Convention.  Palestinian
unemployment had reached 62.3 per cent, and poverty in Gaza was at 75 per
cent.  The United Nations must continue monitoring the situation closely,
under its permanent responsibility on the question of Palestine, until it
was effectively resolved in all its aspects and in accordance with
international law.
RADZI ABDUL RAHMAN (Malaysia) said that social and economic data had
confirmed a marked deterioration of living conditions in the occupied
Palestinian territories, including new forms of dispossession and
destruction of private and public assets.  The new separation wall was
another threat that had acutely undermined the economic and social
conditions of those living under Israeli occupation.  It had led to the
destruction of hundreds of Palestinian homes, property and commercial
premises, as well as thousands of fruit and olive trees.  The wall was a
clear act of territorial annexation by Israel, which had confiscated water
resources and fertile agricultural lands owned by Palestinians under the
guise of self-defence and security.
He also expressed concern over the predicament of the Arab population in
the occupied Syrian Golan, noting that the remaining 18,000 Syrian Arabs
there had maintained control over only 6 per cent of the original
territory under Israeli occupation.  New settlements and activities in
existing settlements had increased.  Israeli authorities had continued to
prohibit Syrian Arabs from constructing water infrastructure to cultivate
their agricultural land, and taxed them heavily on water use, land and
transportation.  Moreover, Syrian Arabs had continued to face the threat
of landmines and had few employment opportunities or educational
facilities.
AHMED ALHAY AL-HAMELI (United Arab Emirates) said that despite numerous
international resolutions that affirmed the inalienable rights of the
Palestinian people and the Arab people of the Syrian Golan to their
natural resources, and called upon Israel to refrain from exploiting such
resources and cease all hostile and illegal practices.  Israel continued
to construct new settlements, impose closures and severe restrictions on
the movements of Palestinians, destroy infrastructure and agricultural
production, demolish homes and violate all international laws, including
the Fourth Geneva Convention.  Settler planning zones had absorbed 41.9
per cent of the land in the West Bank and Israel had confiscated 45 per
cent of the land in the Gaza Strip for settlements or designated military
zones.  Last year alone, Israel's confiscation of Palestinian lands and
demolition of hundreds of homes had left an additional 16,000 Palestinians
homeless and internally displaced.  Some 28,000 Palestinian homes remained
under threat of demolition.
Israeli forces had destroyed 10 per cent of Gaza's arable land, he said,
adding that he Israeli army and settlers had uprooted hundreds of
thousands of olive, citrus and other fruit trees, and destroyed hundreds
of wells and agricultural warehouses, leaving hundreds of thousands of
Palestinians without a source of income.  Closure policies had caused
heavy economic losses, leading to 50 per cent unemployment and 63 per cent
extreme poverty among Palestinians in 2003.  As a result of Israel's
continued confiscation of lands in the occupied Syrian Golan, Syrian Arab
inhabitants controlled only 6 per cent of the original land under Israeli
occupation.  The United Arab Emirates denounced Israel's occupation of
Arab lands, war crimes, and its destruction of Palestinians' natural
resources, which were an attempt to empty the occupied territory of its
people.  The international community must compel Israel to end its
aggression immediately and comply with all relevant United Nations
resolutions calling for full Israeli withdrawal from lands occupied in
1967.
DANIEL MERON (Israel) noted that the Committee had gathered to discuss yet
another pessimistic and unbalanced report on Middle East conditions that
was replete with inaccuracies and misleading exaggerations.  Several
cooperative activities on the ground regarding national resources offered
a ray of hope for all the region's inhabitants, including the Second
Israeli-Palestinian Water Conference in Turkey last month; the upcoming
meeting of the working group on "Dry Land Management", organized by the
World Bank; and the meeting of Israeli, Jordanian and Palestinian water
management experts in Prague at the end of this month.  Those kinds of
cooperative endeavours could effectively overcome the natural
resource-related challenges in the region.
One stark example of the report's weakness was its figures portraying
Israel's extravagant and wasteful water use, which were quite simply
wrong, he said.  If the authors of the report had requested accurate
figures from Israel, it would certainly have supplied them.  The total per
capita water consumption in Israel was less than one half of that defined
by the United Nations as the shortage red line.  The report's claim that
the construction of Israel's security fence had caused the loss of 29
Palestinian wells was incorrect.  Palestinians had not lost one well
because of the fence.  In addition, its claim that Israeli army activity
had damaged water and wastewater infrastructure was misleading.  Any
damage that had been caused by the Israeli Defence Force in its ongoing
campaign against Palestinian terror was repaired immediately, in full
cooperation with the Palestinian Water Authority.
The report would not help bring the region's people closer to living
together in peace with its bias towards one side of the conflict, he said.
 Reports that only respected the rights of one side and the
responsibilities of the other by using a cut-and-paste methodology only
worsened the already serious conditions in the region.  The Israeli
Government's disengagement initiative, which had been welcomed by the
Quartet and the international community as a whole, aimed to bring about
greater stability and security to both Israelis and Palestinians.
FIRDOUS ASHIQ AWAN (Pakistan) noted that the Secretary-General's report
had concluded that the accumulated consequences of the Israeli occupation
had brought the Palestinian territory to "war-torn economy" status and
that its continuation had led to "new forms of dispossession and
destruction of private and public assets of all kinds".  The report had
revealed that Israeli military operations in the past year had impacted
negatively the lives of the Palestinian people and that the
intensification of extrajudicial killings of prominent political figures
had resulted in 394 Palestinian deaths since March 2004.  The West Bank
separation barrier had fragmented Palestinian land and further restricted
people's access to farms, jobs and services.  Some 800 of the 8,000
Palestinians in Israeli prison and detention centres were being held
without any judicial procedure or formal charge.  Israel extracted 85 per
cent of the occupied territories' water, creating a serious water shortage
for Palestinians.  About 47 per cent of Palestinian households had lost
more than half their income and 60 per cent of Palestinians were poor.
He emphasized that Pakistan steadfastly supported the Palestinian people's
just struggle for their inalienable rights, the attainment of which was
necessary for the achievement of a lasting peace in the Middle East.  The
international community, particularly the United States, must work
together to secure a fair and peaceful solution to the problem, including
the realization of the vision of two States, Israel and Palestine, living
side by side in peace, harmony and security.
MOHAMED ELFARNAWANY (Egypt) said that the occupying Power in the
Palestinian territory and the Syrian Golan had continued to disregard the
inalienable rights of the people involved.  The Israeli Government had
persisted with policies that undermined the international community and
its efforts to achieve common development goals.  It was evident that
Israeli practices against the Palestinians undermined their development
efforts.  The Millennium Development Goals had mobilized efforts to
eradicate poverty, but restrictions on the movement of goods and persons
in the occupied areas had increased unemployment and poverty, exacerbating
efforts to achieve the targets.
Infrastructure in the occupied Arab lands had been damaged by the Israeli
army and settlers, he said.  Israeli settlements, set up contrary to
international norms, were having negative repercussions on the living
conditions of the Palestinian people.  In particular, efforts to promote
education had been in vain, thwarted by demolitions, barriers and the
closing of schools, while lack of access to reproductive health services
had threatened women's lives.  How could the international community
disregard such repression, especially at a time when it was seeking
economic cooperation among countries?
REHAM AL-GHANEM (Kuwait) said the Secretary-General's report revealed the
dire consequences of Israel's continued occupation of Palestinian lands on
the Palestinian people, economy and territory, noting that it had
confiscated more than 16,000 Palestinian homes in 2003 that were not
recognized as refugee housing and therefore received no international
protection.  Israel's occupation of main roads had interrupted daily life,
fuelled unemployment and forced Palestinians to relocate to low-production
areas.  Palestinian family income had dropped 44 per cent, more than half
of all Palestinians lived in absolute poverty, and foreign investment had
dropped by 90 per cent since the beginning of 2003.  Had a peaceful
solution been reached last year, foreign investment would have totalled
$40 billion.  Israel had attacked four bank branches and confiscated
millions of dollars under the pretext that the money was held in illegal
accounts.
She said that hundreds of military control points impeded the ability of
humanitarian organizations to bring in aid and had forced the United
Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East
(UNRWA), as of 30 March, to halt assistance to some Palestinian towns.  In
the occupied Golan, settlers had prevented Syrian Arabs from building the
water infrastructure needed to cultivate fertile lands.  Settlers had
confiscated more than 300,000 hectares of land, destroyed fruit trees and
adopted coercive measures against Syrians.  The destruction of their
economic and social systems was reflected in deteriorating living
standards.  The cessation of hostilities in the occupied territories was
the only means to ensure sustainable development and to enable
Palestinians to benefit from globalization.  That could only occur with
the Israeli withdrawal from all lands seized in 1967.
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 nelle mani dei ragazzini compariranno le bombe a mano.
Mah, mi pare che il passaggio di poteri si sia svolto in modo
tranquillo e mi pare sia andato in mani di gente più "diplomatica".
Poi si vedrà!
Ciao! 

legislative and regulatory acts and make reparations for damages.
Ecco il motivo per cui lo e': l'ICJ non ha "ruled" un ca**o, visto che
era solo un "advisory". E ha "concluding" ancora meno di nulla.
-Stefano

 dei ragazzini compariranno le bombe a mano.
Mi sa che ti sei perso qualche puntata dell'avvincente reality-show.
Tb 
-- 
Alcuni di noi hanno storie di merda che fanno male. 
(il primo kiwi con tastiera incorporata)

 Israel's death festival
Se ho capito la traduzione di Babelfish ...non
è che ci siano state scene di giubilo generalizzate*, ma solo
qualche iniziativa solitaria o comunque contenuta.
Ripeto...morisse Berlusconi ...e il cielo volesse....
ci sarebbero feste per strada vittoria dei mondiali,
finora non ho visto foto dei festeggiamenti (magari ci sono stati)
*la dirigenza del Paese (Israele) ha assunto un'atmosfera festiva..
oltre a ovvià satira  e interventi di soddisfazione di vari politici o 
gruppi.
Ciao! 

A festive atmosphere has taken over the country.
E se lo dice lei... :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

 and legs".  E non vi e' nessuna prova che l'abbia mai detta.
Sharon non e' quello che ha dato via libera ai cristiano maroniti per il 
massacro di Sabra e Shatila (800 morti tra donne e bambini), campi 
palestinesi in Libano?
Che differenza fa? 
Vergognati.
A.

 Vergognati.
...disse il bue all'asino... :)
-Stefano

 fare la figura dell'idiota? :)
Amico, quella parte del Libano era sotto controllo di Israele, e i 
cristiano maroniti non potevano alzare una foglia senza chiedere a loro.
Se ricordo bene ci sono state commissione di inchiesta ONU che hanno 
concluso nello stesso senso sulla responsabilita' di Sharon - quel porco  
- nel massacro di Sabra e Shatila.
E se vuoi la cronaca leggiti il libro di Fisk che c'era, al contrario di 
te che nascondi le cicche sotto il tappeto a cose fatte, come la vecchia 
portiera dell'Hotel Israel, che gia' ti ho detto che eri.
A.

eri.
...disse la vecchia portiera dell'Hotel Israel... :)
*LOL*
Alla prossima figura da fesso che sono sicuro non tarderai molto a
rifare :)
-Stefano

 -Stefano
Meglio fesso che avvocaticchio di stragisti...
A.

Meglio fesso che avvocaticchio di stragisti...
...disse il fesso che aveva le prove del coinvolgimento di questi
"stragisti" ma non le voleva mostrare al mondo... :)
Ma forse nel tuo mondo si e' colpevoli fino a quando non si dimostra la
propria innocenza, vero? :)
-Stefano

 -Stefano
Armando, nel libro di Fisk, corrispondente di giornali inglesi dal 
Libano, ci sono tutte le prove che vuoi. Ovviamente tu l'hai denigrato 
preventivamente sul NG, e quindi che vuoi? Se non erro The Guardian, che 
era stato per decenni pro-sionista, ha cambiato opinione proprio in 
quegli anni. Perche' mai l'avrebbe fatto?
Tu sei solo un 'chiagni e fotti', nota specie mediterranea...
Non farmi perdere tempo e ritirati nella tua portineria...
A.

Non farmi perdere tempo e ritirati nella tua portineria...
...disse la portinaia dell'Hotel Israel...
Fatti spiegare da tuo padre qualcosa della storia Medio Orientale che tu
non hai capito un ca**o al riguardo.
E non e' certo Fisk che te la puo' insegnare.
-Stefano