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Titolo: MIDEAST:  Christian Zionists Feel "Betrayed" by Bush's Road Map

Come se la situazione non fosse già abbastanza difficile ci si mette 
pure questo branco di esaltatati di "sionisti cristiani" a complicarla 
ancora peggio con le loro profezie da realizzare.
Gog e Magog... che abisso di squallore.
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MIDEAST:  Christian Zionists Feel "Betrayed" by Bush's Road Map
By Bill Berkowitz*
OAKLAND, California, Jan 22 (IPS) - President George W. Bush returned 
home from his trip to the Middle East optimistic about the possibility 
of a peace agreement between the Israelis and Palestinians before he 
leaves office in January of next year.
"In order for there to be lasting peace, [Palestinian] President 
[Mahmoud] Abbas and [Israeli] Prime Minister [Ehud] Olmert have to come 
together and make tough choices," Bush said at a joint press conference 
after meeting with Abbas. "And I'm convinced they will. And I believe 
it's possible -- not only possible, I believe it's going to happen, that 
there will be a signed peace treaty by the time I leave office. That's 
what I believe."
Although Bush is upbeat, it has been business as usual in the Middle 
East. In recent days, Avegdor Lieberman, chairman of Yisrael Beitcinu, 
announced his party's resignation from Israel's coalition government, 
disenchanted with the peace process; Israeli forces launched an attack 
on the Gaza Strip that killed 17 people, including the son of Mahmoud 
al-Zahor, the former foreign minister of Hamas; and opposition leader 
Benjamin Netanyahu, the chairman of the Likud Party, told President Bush 
straight up that "Jerusalem belongs to the Jewish people and will remain 
under Israeli sovereignty for eternity."
If the Bush administration manages to pull off what several presidents 
before him have been unable to, it will be a major achievement. Why do 
some Christian Zionists in the U.S., who have consistently supported 
Bush's foreign policy initiatives and believe that the modern state of 
Israel is the fulfillment of Biblical "End Times" prophecy and thus 
deserving of political, financial and religious support, feel betrayed 
by Bush's actions?
Their anger revolves around both the future status of Jerusalem and 
whether a peace agreement lessens the chances for a preemptive strike 
against Iran. While Bush appeared to reassure Christian Zionists that 
Iran was "the world's leading state-sponsor of terror", the issue of 
Jerusalem remained disconcerting.
Evans, the head of The Jerusalem Prayer Team, the author of the New York 
Times bestseller "The Final Move Beyond Iraq," and the publisher of the 
online Jerusalem World News, took Bush to task in a recent piece titled 
"Betrayed: The Bush Conspiracy to Divide Jerusalem," for "moving 
full-speed ahead with his Annapolis Road Map plan to have a Palestinian 
state with east Jerusalem as its capital before he leaves office."
He argued that the Road Map, proposed by the international Quartet -- 
the U.S., the European Union, Russia, and the United Nations -- "has 
become corrupted by Saudi Arabia and other fundamentalist Islamic forces 
into a plan to divide Jerusalem and make east Jerusalem -- the home of 
Christianity -- the capital of a Palestinian state and force Israel to 
return all lands reclaimed in 1967."
The Save Jerusalem Campaign has gathered more than 100,000 signatures 
and is hoping for one million.
Joel C. Rosenberg, the founder of The Joshua Fund, whose operating motto 
is "Pray for peace, but prepare for war", and is also a best-selling 
author, reported on his blog on Jan. 10 that despite the past failures, 
"we should not write off this possibility [of peace] too quickly."
Rosenberg maintained that several events have provided a more fertile 
ground for a successful peace process; the death of Yasser Arafat and 
the rise of Mahmoud Abbas, a "slightly-more moderate tactician who seems 
intent on striking a deal with the Israelis if he can first survive 
assassination at the hands of Hamas or other radicals"; Ariel Sharon's 
demise due to a stroke, and the rise of Olmert, "a man who seems almost 
desperate for a peace deal with the Palestinians, even if that means 
dividing Jerusalem (a terrible idea we should strongly oppose)"; regime 
change in Iraq; the rise of an Iranian threat to so-called moderate 
Middle Eastern regimes; and Bush's desire to get something done before 
he leaves office.
Rosenberg appears confident that even if a peace deal is struck, it will 
not necessarily be contradictory to Biblical prophesy: "While...Matthew 
24 and Luke 21 indicate that there will be wars, rumors of wars and 
revolutions in the Middle East in the last days, Ezekiel 38 also 
indicates that for a season at least the Jews will be living 'securely' 
in the land prior to the apocalyptic War of Gog & Magog (the 
Russian-Iranian alliance to destroy Israel)."
According to Rosenberg, this could suggest the possibility of "some sort 
of peace treaty being agreed to in the not-too-distant future, though it 
should be noted that no treaty is specifically mentioned in the text and 
the word 'peace' -- shalom -- is never used in Ezekiel 38. Separately, 
the prophecies of Daniel 9 actually do indicate that Israel and her 
neighbors will sign a peace treaty -- albeit a false, deceptive and 
short-lived one -- in the last days, though Bible scholars are not clear 
as to which prophecy will come true first, Ezekiel's or Daniel's."
The Joshua Fund is organising a conference slated for Apr. 10 in 
Jerusalem to celebrate Israel's 60th anniversary. According to 
Rosenberg, the purpose of the conference is "to educate people as to the 
serious threats facing the Jewish State and her neighbours, mobilise 
Christians around the world to pray for the peace of Jerusalem, and 
provide humanitarian relief to the poor and needy and those suffering 
from war and terrorism."
As Sarah Posner points out in her new book "God's Profits: Faith, Fraud, 
and the Republican Crusade for Values Voters", Pastor John Hagee's 
Christians United for Israel (CUFI), launched in February 2006 to 
provide lobbying support for Israel, believes that "'Jerusalem must 
remain undivided as the eternal capital of the Jewish people' (meaning 
no portion of it should be turned over to the Palestinians)."
"Hagee's injection of the charged rhetoric of biblical prophesy into 
contemporary foreign policy," Posner writes, "has catapulted him to the 
forefront of an American Christian Zionist movement that has become the 
darling of conservative Israel hawks in Washington and neoconservatives 
yearning for regional war in the Middle East."
Hagee, who heads up an 18,000-member Pentecostal congregation in San 
Antonio, Texas, "has been remarkably silent about Bush's Middle East 
trip," Posner told IPS. "As you know, he opposes dividing Jerusalem and 
opposes a two-state process. The opposition to dividing Jerusalem is a 
biblical thing -- it has to be in Jewish hands for the second coming. On 
the other hand, he may have been happy to hear Bush's sabre-rattling on 
Iran."
Posner pointed out that a recent e-mail from Hagee to his supporters was 
more biblical "than political". She says that she expects U.S. Christian 
Zionists and Hagee in particular, to continue "to have clout as long as 
the Republican Party thinks it needs their votes".
*Bill Berkowitz is a longtime observer of the conservative movement. His 
column "Conservative Watch" documents the strategies, players, 
institutions, victories and defeats of the U.S. Right.
(END/2008)
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=40874

 ultimo rifugio del fondamentalista di Chieti e/o il pirla
ama', non ci scherzerei tanto sopra...i pirla americani sono assai più
pericolosi del pirla teatino...

 ultimo rifugio del fondamentalista di Chieti e/o il pirla
Vedo che insisti nell'usare la tecnica della spersonalizzazione.
Peraltro neanche ti accorgi che l'immagine posticcia di me che vuoi 
accreditare è in netta contraddizione con quello che ho postato ora.
Se ti piace il gioco (e immagino che ti piaccia, perché negare 
l'identità altrui da un senso di potere, specialmente agli impotenti) mi 
pare giusto giocarlo in due; posso trovare anche per te un comodo 
avatar, ispirandomi al mondo animale o a quello delle abiezioni umane.
Tu hai preferenze?

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Pirla teatino?
Bene, visto che sei sceso dalla torre te lo dico piano piano in un 
orecchio, senti, ascolta... VAFFANCULO!
Troppo forte? Mi spiace.

 Pirla teatino?
sei teatino? E allora perchè ti senti chiamato in causa?

 ultimo rifugio del fondamentalista di Chieti e/o il pirla
e anche un po' ammuffito. La solita polemica clericale contro i
protestanti, rei di ribellarsi a Roma

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a te piacciono quei pazzi furiosi che sostengono Israele in attesa di
farvi fuori nella resa dei conti apocalittica? Contento te...

 accreditare è in netta contraddizione con quello che ho postato ora.
Come no! :)
*ROTFL*
L'importante e' che tu ne sia convinto :)
-Stefano

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non guardo le convinzioni politiche degli amici. Questi amici mi
sembrano più efficaci di chi vorrebbe una Israele più debole,
naturalmente per il nostro bene

 non guardo le convinzioni politiche degli amici.
io verificherei se sono davvero amici...hai presente la storiella
dell'uccellino caduto dal nido?
Un giorno d'inverno un uccellino,che stava comodo nel suo nido,cadde
dall'albero e si ruppè un ala. L'uccellino per non morire dal freddo
incominciò a cinguettare e per sua fortuna lo sentì una mucca che
pascolava lì vicino. La mucca si avvicinò con aria perplessa e vide
che l'uccellino era quasi morto così per riscaldarlo,alzò la coda
e...ploffete...lo coprì di merda. In questo modo l'uccellino potè
scaldarsi e contento continuò a cinguettare facendo abbastanza
chiasso. Purtroppo per lui il suo frastuono arrivò alle orecchie di un
lupo affamato che subito si avvicinò incuriosito.Notando l'uccellino
nella cacca,lo raccolse, lo pulì ben bene e se lo mangiò in un
boccone.
MORALE:"non tutti ti mettono nella merda per farti del male e non
tutti ti levano dalla merda per farti del bene..."

 ancora peggio con le loro profezie da realizzare.
Persio crede che le profezie, ad esempio le sue, abbiano un profondo 
impatto sulla realtà.
Questo dimostra quanto è pirla.
Tb

* Tonibaruch wrote, Il 23/01/2008 19.07:
Ma tu sai leggere, bagarozzo?  Si?
Allora leggi cosa stanno organizzando *adesso*.
Poi dedicati al tuo hobby...

 Allora leggi cosa stanno organizzando *adesso*.
Una profezia. Coose che ti impressionano molto.
Forse perché sei così pirla.
Tb
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Basel Hurani, 'Abd al-Halim Rumieh, Ratib Sha'bu, and Doha 'Ashur
al-'Askari 
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* Tonibaruch wrote, Il 23/01/2008 19.51:
Si, bravo bagarozzo, seguimi che ti porto a vedere bei posti.
Ah, la palletta di sterco la puoi fare strada facendo.