Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: What does 'pro-Israel' even mean?

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1256799098894&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
Nov. 5, 2009
mitchell bard , THE JERUSALEM POST
The term "pro-Israel" is used routinely to describe Americans 
sympathetic toward the State of Israel. Increasingly, however, one hears 
questions raised as to what this term really means. The "pro-Israel" 
community was never monolithic, but the number of critics of Israeli 
policy and the volume of their complaints have grown to the point where 
some people are confused about the definition.
Does it mean support for the people of Israel and/or the government? Can 
someone be pro-Israel and criticize Israel?
Historically, there have always been American Jews (and non-Jews) who 
believed they knew what was best for Israel and argued that their views, 
despite their divergence from the mainstream of the pro-Israel community 
or the policies of the government of Israel, were "pro-Israel."
What may be called the "chutzpah lobby" treats Israelis like children 
who don't know what's good for them and substitutes its judgment to save 
Israel in spite of itself.
As someone who has been involved in academic research on US-Israel 
relations as well as advocacy for Israel for more than 20 years, I do 
not see any confusion.
HERE IS a set of criteria for distinguishing someone as pro-Israel:
1. Believes the Jewish people are a nation entitled to 
self-determination in their homeland, which is Israel.
2. Respects Israeli democracy and does not substitute his judgment for 
Israeli voters'.
3. Emphasizes the good in Israel while acknowledging the faults, rather 
than emphasizing the faults and ignoring the positive aspects of the nation.
4. Criticizes Israel within the family. Israel may be the only country 
whose prime minister regularly meets with citizens from other countries 
to hear their views. The easiest way for a Jew to get attention - the 
man-bites-dog story - is to be the Jew who publicly castigates Israel. 
Israel's best interests should trump personal ego.
5. Rejects the idea that it is okay to publicly criticize Israel just 
because Jews in Israel censure their government. America is not Israel; 
Israelis have a common narrative and shared experiences. Americans, even 
American Jews, do not have the same level of knowledge or experience 
with regard to Israel, so criticism is interpreted differently. 
Criticism is also not justified by Israeli encouragement, as they do not 
understand the American context and typically only bless critics who 
agree with them (leftist Israelis are happy to encourage American Jews 
to speak out against rightist governments, but are furious with 
criticism of leftist governments and vice versa).
6. Respects Israeli military judgments. Israelis are not infallible, but 
armchair American generals typically have no qualifications for 
challenging Israeli military experts (even US military generals can be 
wrong, as proved by George Marshall's prediction that the Jews would be 
routed in 1948).
7. Believes in trying to act by consensus. Sometimes this leads to a 
watering-down of positions, but unity is one of the principal advantages 
the Israeli lobby has over the Arab lobby.
8. Knows the history and facts about the contentious issues, including 
the Palestinian narrative.
9. Doesn't substitute wishful thinking for reality. Everyone wants 
peace, but objective conditions cannot be ignored (e.g., hoping Hamas 
will change won't make it so).
10. Does not join forces with Israel's enemies. Some organizations 
claiming to be pro-Israel find common cause with groups that have long 
records of hostility toward Israel and trying to undermine the US-Israel 
relationship. By doing so, they bring peace no closer and only weaken 
the political strength of the pro-Israel community.
11. Knows its audience and recognizes that as a Jew its words are 
magnified. Comments made before an audience that shares its feelings 
about Israel are likely to be understood one way while the same remarks 
may be misconstrued by an audience that has mixed or anti-Israel feelings.
12. Supports Israeli government efforts to make peace even when the 
risks seem high from the comfort of America.
13. Is pro-peace; however, being pro-peace does not necessarily make you 
pro-Israel as many groups and individuals who say they favor peace 
advocate positions that are damaging to Israel. In fact, those who 
believe Israel should disappear can claim that is a pro-peace position.
Undoubtedly some people will take exception to this list, especially 
those who believe that the "establishment" which accepts these criteria 
does not represent the majority of American Jews. They are free of 
course to call themselves pro-Israel or anything else they want, but 
those who do not subscribe to these criteria are more likely to weaken 
the US-Israel relationship than to help it, and to become pawns of 
Israel's enemies.

Incredibile, ogni paese del mondo può essere visto e giudicato 
liberamente nella sua politica interna e internazionale salvo Israele.
Già, perché se non seguite certe regole potete essere certi che qualche 
organizzazione "sionista" ve la farà pagare.
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[Megaphone]
The Foreign Ministry itself is now pushing the idea, urging supporters 
of Israel everywhere to
become cyberspace soldiers "in the new battleground for Israel's image."
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 organizzazione "sionista" ve la farà pagare.
Guardate Persio.
L'hanno rapito e sostituito con un pirla.
-- 
Tb (bieco illuminista)

 L'hanno rapito e sostituito con un pirla.
sostituito?

 sostituito?
Sì, il vero Persio aveva solo il 99% di pirlaggine. 
Questo si riconosce come zionist job perché è allo stato puro.
-- 
Tb (bieco illuminista)

 sostituito?
Sembra incredibile ma una volta era diverso, tutto intriso faceva quasi 
tenerezza: 
http://tinyurl.com/ykpdklg
.
-- 
Baci,
Mony