Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Terribili torture rivelate a Guantanamo

Sul Washinghton Post del 10 febraio, si parla di rapporti terribili su 
torture sessuali inflitte ai prigionieri mussulmani.
Si racconta di donne addette agli interrogatori degli islamisti che vanno in 
giro quasi nude per eccitarli sessualmente
Oppure di vernicie rossa spacciata per sangue "impuro" gettato sui detenuti.
O ancora sfoggio di poppe ... e carezze sui capelli dei detenuti da parte di 
donne che gli si siedono sulle ginocchia.
Il racconto piu terribile è senz'altro quello dell'avvocato di un detenuto 
turco che racconta come il suo cliente sia stato torturato :
ha ricevuto la visita in cella di tre donne in mutandine e reggiseno di 
pizzo che lo hanno stimolato sessualmente mentre era incatenato.
I racconti non dicono se resta ancora posto a Guantanamo ... dovrete 
mettervi in lista d'attesa   ! ...   ;)))
In francese :
"Le Washington Post citait, jeudi 10 février, deux rapports militaires à
paraître, à une date indéterminée, sur les conditions d'interrogation
dans les centres de détention américains, rappelant notamment le cas de
femmes chargées d'interrogatoires ayant paradé quasiment nues. Le
Pentagone avait reconnu l'an dernier avoir réprimandé deux
interrogatrices pour ce type de méthodes.
En avril 2003, l'une d'elles avait enlevé sa veste d'uniforme, ne
gardant qu'un T-shirt, avant de passer ses doigts dans les cheveux d'un
détenu en s'asseyant sur ses genoux. Début 2003, une autre
interrogatrice avait enduit de teinture rouge les vêtements d'un détenu
en lui disant pour l'humilier qu'il s'agissait du sang des règles, selon
des responsables militaires.
Mais les cas d'abus semblent largement dépasser le cadre de ces
accusations, selon les témoignages croisés de détenus et d'anciens
détenus.
L'avocat allemand d'un détenu turc, Murat Kurnaz, a dénoncé jeudi des
humiliations sexuelles. Son client s'est notamment plaint d'avoir reçu
la visite dans sa cellule de "trois femmes en culotte et en
soutien-gorge en dentelle qui l'ont stimulé sexuellement" alors qu'il se
trouvait enchaîné"

 In francese :
cut
Quando proprio non si vuol vedere e non si vuol sentire...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/01/national/01gitmo.html?ex=1108270800&en=818
f58f7ce90cf47&ei=5070&oref=login&oref=login&pagewanted=print&position=&oref=
regi
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/120104Z.shtml
E infine:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/30/politics/30gitmo.html?ex=1108270800&en=0fa
3c7a4ba746f74&ei=5070&hp&ex=1101877200&en=8d107165e454d8b6&ei=5094&partner=h
omepage
Aggiungo per correttezza d'informazione che la IRC per ovvi motivi
diplomatici e per non perdere l'accesso alla visita dei prigionieri non ha
né confermato né smentito l'articolo. Articolo che posto per intero perché
l'archivio del NYT non è accessibile da tutti.
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      Red Cross Finds Detainee Abuse in Guantánamo
WASHINGTON, Nov. 29 - The International Committee of the Red Cross has
charged in confidential reports to the United States government that the
American military has intentionally used psychological and sometimes
physical coercion "tantamount to torture" on prisoners at Guantánamo Bay,
Cuba.
The finding that the handling of prisoners detained and interrogated at
Guantánamo amounted to torture came after a visit by a Red Cross inspection
team that spent most of last June in Guantánamo.
The team of humanitarian workers, which included experienced medical
personnel, also asserted that some doctors and other medical workers at
Guantánamo were participating in planning for interrogations, in what the
report called "a flagrant violation of medical ethics."
Doctors and medical personnel conveyed information about prisoners' mental
health and vulnerabilities to interrogators, the report said, sometimes
directly, but usually through a group called the Behavioral Science
Consultation Team, or B.S.C.T. The team, known informally as Biscuit, is
composed of psychologists and psychological workers who advise the
interrogators, the report said.
The United States government, which received the report in July, sharply
rejected its charges, administration and military officials said.
The report was distributed to lawyers at the White House, Pentagon and State
Department and to the commander of the detention facility at Guantánamo,
Gen. Jay W. Hood. The New York Times recently obtained a memorandum, based
on the report, that quotes from it in detail and lists its major findings.
It was the first time that the Red Cross, which has been conducting visits
to Guantánamo since January 2002, asserted in such strong terms that the
treatment of detainees, both physical and psychological, amounted to
torture. The report said that another confidential report in January 2003,
which has never been disclosed, raised questions of whether "psychological
torture" was taking place.
The Red Cross said publicly 13 months ago that the system of keeping
detainees indefinitely without allowing them to know their fates was
unacceptable and would lead to mental health problems.
The report of the June visit said investigators had found a system devised
to break the will of the prisoners at Guantánamo, who now number about 550,
and make them wholly dependent on their interrogators through "humiliating
acts, solitary confinement, temperature extremes, use of forced positions."
Investigators said that the methods used were increasingly "more refined and
repressive" than learned about on previous visits.
"The construction of such a system, whose stated purpose is the production
of intelligence, cannot be considered other than an intentional system of
cruel, unusual and degrading treatment and a form of torture," the report
said. It said that in addition to the exposure to loud and persistent noise
and music and to prolonged cold, detainees were subjected to "some
beatings." The report did not say how many of the detainees were subjected
to such treatment.
Asked about the accusations in the report, a Pentagon spokesman provided a
statement saying, "The United States operates a safe, humane and
professional detention operation at Guantánamo that is providing valuable
information in the war on terrorism."
It continued that personnel assigned to Guantánamo "go through extensive
professional and sensitivity training to ensure they understand the
procedures for protecting the rights and dignity of detainees."
The conclusions by the inspection team, especially the findings involving
alleged complicity in mistreatment by medical professionals, have provoked a
stormy debate within the Red Cross committee. Some officials have argued
that it should make its concerns public or at least aggressively confront
the Bush administration.
The International Committee of the Red Cross, which is based in Geneva and
is separate from the American Red Cross, was founded in 1863 as an
independent, neutral organization intended to provide humanitarian
protection and assistance for victims of war.

non ha né confermato né smentito l'articolo.
E quindi il valore di tale articolo e' prossimo allo zero assoluto.
-Stefano

 torture sessuali inflitte ai prigionieri mussulmani.
Non ci scherzerei troppo, se e' vero sempre tortura e'. Anzi, il fatto
che sia calibrata sulla particolare morale sessuale dei prigionieri la
rende IMHO ancora piu' odiosa.
Palmiro Pangloss
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 giro quasi nude per eccitarli sessualmente
Boh, mi sembra piu' che altro un'atteggiamento puerile, poco
professionale ed effettivamente condannabile. Certo, non e' come
strappare le unghie o giocare coi cavi di rame, ma non e' nemmeno una
cosa di cui andare fieri.
PS: Penso che tu per "islamisti" intenda musulmani. Non e' proprio la
spessa cosa.
-- 
Nadja Jacur


 Certo, non e' come strappare le unghie o giocare coi cavi di rame...
Il fatto e' che oggi vanno molto "di moda" le torture che non lasciano
marchi riscontrabili o segni visibili su chi le ha subite.
Andrea
salo...@mediacomm.it

 mettervi in lista d'attesa   ! ...   ;)))
spero che ti chiudano in una gabbia sotto il sole e perdano la chiave
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spero che ti chiudano in una gabbia sotto il sole e perdano la chiave
...disse il bue all'asino...
-Stefano