Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Re: Pictures 'show Georgia torching' (BBC)

 retake South Ossetia by force after a series of lower-level clashes.
dove sono i 1600 ossetini sterminati in 24 ore in questo riassunto? Di
quelli HRW se ne frega, giusto? Molto credibili, direi...del resto
Soros mica paga per parlare dei crimini di guerra dei quisling yankee?

 ma non erano sul terreno? Cosa se ne fanno delle foto satellitari?
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Operation Clean Field designed to drive us all out, say refugees
James Hider in Gori
The Times, August 29
Georgian civilians are fleeing again amid reports that Russian troops 
are turning a blind eye to 'ethnic cleansing', writes
James Hider in Gori
Russian-backed paramilitaries are "ethnically cleansing" villages on 
Georgian soil, refugees and officials told The Times
yesterday.
South Ossetian militiamen have torched houses, beaten elderly people and 
even murdered civilians in the lawless buffer
zone set up by the Russian Army just north of Gori. The violence, close 
to the border with the breakaway republic
recognised by Russia this week as independent, has prompted a new wave 
of refugees into Gori, 40 miles north of Tbilisi.
People who had started to return to their villages in the area are now 
fleeing for a second time, joined by many elderly
people who had refused to leave their homes when the Russians invaded 
two weeks ago.
A straggle of refugees gathered yesterday at the feet of a giant statue 
of Josef Stalin, Gori's infamous native son, to
register with the local authorities and the UN refugee agency, the 
UNHCR, for emergency supplies and accommodation in
three tent cities being built near a football stadium.
"They had no uniform - I think they were Ossetians," said Siyala 
Sereteli, 73, who fled her village of Irganeteye the
previous day when irregular forces arrived. Weeping, she lifted her 
sleeve to show a deep bruise inflicted by a blow from a
rifle stock. "They took everything they wanted, even the fans. They beat 
up a man using sticks and a chair and then threw
him in the river," she said.
Other refugees were clustered in the shabby city hall, trying to glean 
news of relatives still inside the buffer zone, which
Russia said it had established to prevent Georgian attacks on South 
Ossetians, many of whom hold Russian passports. A
look of deep shock froze the face of Oliko Gnolidze when she managed to 
make contact on her mobile phone with an
uncle, Nodari Jashiashvili, in Tkviai, about a 20-minute drive away.
"There is panic here, they are burning houses," came the crackly voice 
of her uncle. "I don't know what to do. Ossetians
are in the village." Ms Gnolidze, 38, said that in earlier conversations 
her uncle had told her that only a few people
remained in the village, with Ossetian irregulars looting under the 
noses of Russian troops, described by Moscow as
"peacekeepers". She said the Russians had forced her uncle to cook a 
meal for them, after which he had fled and hidden
in nearby woods.
Shorta Kharadze, a 45-year-old lorry driver, returned to Gori from 
Tbilisi, where he had sheltered during the fighting, after
his mother's neighbours from the village of Megheverizkevi told him that 
she had been murdered by South Ossetian
militiamen.
Looking gaunt, Mr Kharadze said the neighbours had telephoned him to say 
that two men in uniform had come to the
home of his 77-year-old mother, Oliya, and demanded to know why she 
hadn't left the village. She had been wounded in
the arm during the fighting in the area but had refused to leave.
"They beat her with an axe handle. There's a pond in our yard - she fell 
near it and they pushed her in. I don't know if she
was still alive when they pushed her in or if she drowned," Mr Kharadze 
said.
"It's like ethnic cleansing, genocide," said Koba Tlashadze, a council 
official in Gori, which was itself briefly occupied by
Russian forces before last week's ceasefire. "It's a special operation 
codenamed Clean Field, because they are emptying
the villages."
The UNHCR has voiced its concern about reports of "new forcible 
displacement caused by marauding militias north of
Gori near the boundary with South Ossetia". It said as many as 400 
displaced people had gathered on Gori's square on
Tuesday "after being forced to flee their villages by marauders 
operating in the so-called buffer zone established along the boundary 
with South Ossetia".
Alessandra Morelli, a UNHCR co-ordinator in Gori, said that confirming 
the stories was impossible because Russian
checkpoints had sealed off the buffer zone.
Farther west, in Borjomi, Georgia's Environment Minister accused Russia 
of having deliberately started extensive forest
fires in the country's main natural park by firing incendiary flares 
into tinder-dry mountains. After a helicopter inspection of
the still-smouldering area, Irakli Ghvaladze said an investigation was 
being set up into Russian strikes on the park - far
from military operations - for almost a week during the conflict. "We 
have begun to investigate this ecocide," he said. The
fires had destroyed hundreds of hectares of forest, with fire-fighting 
helicopters unadown. "Who knows why the Russians did this? They destroy 
everything," he said.
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Ethnic cleansing still going on
Veronika Oleksyn
AP , August 28
Russian forces and their armed allies have driven all Georgians out of 
South Ossetia and Abkhazia and are now ethnically
cleansing other areas of Georgia, a senior Georgian official charged 
Thursday.
Foreign Minister Eka Tkeshelashvili said ethnic cleansing has taken 
place not only in villages in the two separatist
provinces where Georgians and Ossetians once lived together, but also in 
a so-called buffer zone now being created by
Russian troops along the border of those regions.
"As of now, we can say with confidence that in both regions Abkhazia and 
Ossetia ethnic cleansing is fully completed,"
Tkeshelashvili told reporters at the Organization for Security and 
Cooperation in Europe.
"They've expelled from all villages remnants of the Georgian population 
they've destroyed their houses, they've looted
their property, they've burned down their fields, forests," she said.
Tkeshelashvili said the cleansing was carried out by Russian forces who 
brought along militias and paramilitaries of
different ethnic origins Ossetians, Kossaks, even some Chechen groups.
"It was a concerted action of Russian official military forces together 
with paramilitaries," she said.
At the beginning of the confrontation, men were executed while women 
were forced to flee, she said. Georgians are now
being expelled from areas outside South Ossetia, especially from 
villages between South Ossetia and the central
Georgian city of Gori, she said.
"The pattern is that they create a buffer zone ... basically, it's an 
empty territory now because people are expelled, houses
are destroyed, all fields are burned so that it will be very difficult 
for people to return home," she said.
Separately, Russian OSCE Ambassador Anvar Azimov said there was no 
evidence of ethnic cleansing in South Ossetia
or Abkhazia and that some ethnic Georgians left South Ossetia of their 
own accord before the conflict began.
"Most of the Georgians, they left South Ossetia before this aggression," 
Azimov said, adding that South Ossetia would be
ready to take back all those ethnic Georgians who left.
"We hope that there will be ethnic unity in this region," he said. "If 
there are certain acts of unjust attitude toward
Georgians living in South Ossetia, I'm sure that the new authorities 
will undertake proper and effective measures to remove these difficulties."
Azimov said Russian forces would leave the buffer zone when Moscow is 
assured there is no new threat from Georgia.
"I think it will not be (a) long period ... for us it's clear that 
sooner or later we will leave the territory," he said, adding that
Russia was ready to work closely with the OSCE.
On Wednesday, French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner also suggested 
that Russia has engaged in ethnic cleansing
in South Ossetia.
AP reporters and television crews have interviewed South Ossetian 
looters in Georgian villages like Kekhvi, where all
Georgian homes were burned down, many a full week after fighting had ended.
On Tuesday, over a hundred Georgians fled to Gori from their village of 
Meghvrekisi after what they said was a night of
violence and looting by ethnic Ossetians.
"We fled from our homes, only those of us who could hide yesterday are 
safe now, others were beaten up," villager Natela
Makhatadze told an AP television crew.
Russian forces have also shipped busloads of elderly Georgians from 
South Ossetia to Gori in the last week. The
Russians say they were trying to help infirm people find their 
relatives, but some of the elderly flet the Russians and Ossetians were 
clearing the area of Georgians.


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le fonti  di chi ha armato il genocida Saakashvili non sono credibili.
QUando ci saranno fonti terze credibili, fa' pure un fischio

giovanni2 ha scritto:
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Lol. Dormi tranquillo giovannino, non ti sturbare : i Russi sono tanto 
buoni e i Georgiani tanto cattivi.


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i georgiani no, gli yankee e i loro servi sì.