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Titolo: Gli USA non controllano nemmeno Baghdad

 
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      U.S. does not even control Baghdad
      Associated Press
      Oct. 7, 2004
      BAGHDAD, Iraq -- U.S. warplanes struck Baghdad's Sadr City district
overnight to neutralize roadside bombs that regularly explode as American
patrols drive through the area, the military said Thursday.
      The operation came amid talks aimed at ending weeks of clashes between
U.S. and Iraqi forces and followers of renegade Shiite cleric Muqtada
al-Sadr in the sprawling northeastern Baghdad slum.
      AC-130 gunships fired into the district's narrow and densely populated
streets, which are littered with improvised bombs, said Capt. Brian O'Malley
of the 1st Cavalry Division.
      Residents held a funeral Thursday for a man they said was killed in
the strikes, Associated Press Television News footage showed. O'Malley had
no reports of casualties.
      Homemade bombs -- some concealed on the road, others vehicle-born --
are the biggest killer of U.S. troops in Iraq.
      U.S. forces have staged almost daily attacks in Sadr City, both from
the air and the ground, in an effort to root out militiamen loyal to
al-Sadr.
      As military operations continued, the Iraqi government was said to be
nearing agreement with al-Sadr's followers on a plan to end the fighting.
      A government delegation met Thursday with tribal leaders from Sadr
city and representatives of al-Sadr's movement, said Amer al-Husseini, a key
aide.
      "There was some points that needed to be clarified and we have sent
our response on these points," al-Husseini said.
      He provided no details and government officials could not immediately
be reached for comment.
      Interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi told reporters Wednesday that a
committee was being formed to discuss what he termed an "initiative" to end
the conflict.
      Kareem al-Bakhatti, a pro-al-Sadr tribal elder, said the framework
agreement calls for al-Sadr's militiamen to turn in their weapons in
exchange for cash payments and immunity from prosecution for most of them.
Iraqi police would take over security responsibilities in Sadr City and
American forces would enter the district only with the approval of Iraqi
authorities, he said.
      Some al-Sadr aides expressed reservations about some of the
conditions, including the absence of provisions for a halt to arrests, the
release of prisoners and an end to house raids.
      The Iraqi government is eager to pacify al-Sadr's Mahdi Army, which
launched bloody uprisings in April and August, and end the major source of
militancy among the majority Shiite community. The firebrand cleric has
frequently seesawed in negotiations.

       U.S. does not even control Baghdad
E se lo dice lui... :)
E come dire che gli USA non controllano nemmeno NY a causa della
criminalita' nel Bronx :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

 criminalita' nel Bronx :)
Non ti sei scordato degli incidenti stradali, dei buoi e degli asini? Eh,
non ci sono piů le mezze stagioni, signora mia...
Namib

 *LOL*
no, e' come dire che gli americani non possono entrare in gran parte
del paese controllato dai signori della guerra
Saluti
cielito lindo

 criminalita' nel Bronx :)
No: è come dire che hai finito gli argomenti.

Eh, non ci sono più le mezze stagioni, signora mia...
C.V.D.
:)
-Stefano

del paese controllato dai signori della guerra
Il che e' una emerita ca***ta :)
-Stefano

 No: è come dire che hai finito gli argomenti.
...disse il bue all'asino... :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

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Certo: lo dimostra il fatto che a Baghdad le autobombe girino come i tram.

 ...disse
Se non sai piů cosa scrivere, non occupare banda inutilmente.
Grazie.

tram.
Se lo dici tu... :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

 Se non sai più cosa scrivere, non occupare banda inutilmente.
...disse il bue all'asino... :)
-Stefano

 Se
No, eh?
http://www.repubblica.it/2004/j/dirette/sezioni/esteri/iraq/iraq11ottobre/index.html

 ...disse
Continua a dimostrare di essere un cretino, accomodati.

 
http://www.repubblica.it/2004/j/dirette/sezioni/esteri/iraq/iraq11ottobre/index.html
Mi diresti dove indica una qualsivoglia "autombomba" a Baghdad? :)
*LOL*
Al solito hai fatto la figura del fesso :)
-Stefano

 Continua a dimostrare di essere un cretino, accomodati.
...disse il cretino... :)
-Stefano

 Mi diresti dove indica una qualsivoglia "autombomba" a Baghdad? :)
A Mosul.
In quale paese si trova?
Scusa, mi rileggi il soggetto del thread?

 patrols drive through the area, the military said Thursday.
Classico esempio di disinformazione:
Il titolo  "U.S. does not even control Baghdad" non e' quello dato da
Associated Press al suo lancio infatti:
Thursday October 7, 8:35 PM
U.S. Warplanes Target Iraq Roadside Bombs
U.S. warplanes struck Baghdad's Sadr City district overnight to neutralize
roadside bombs that regularly explode as American patrols drive through the
area, the military said Thursday.
http://rds.yahoo.com/S=53720272/K=Ac+130/v=2/SID=e/l=NSR/R=1/SIG=11oti56hr/*
-http%3A//
asia.news.yahoo.com/041007/ap/d85ijg380.html
Il titolo "U.S. does not even control Baghdad" e' solo un plateale
taroccamento di qualche disinformatore somaro.

 C.V.D.
Volevi dimostrare che non ci sono più le mezze stagioni? :))))
Namib

A Mosul.
Grazie per aver fatto l'ennesima volta la tua classica figura di merda
:)
*LOL*
-Stefano

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Grazie per essertene convinto per cosě poco.
L'audience applaude.
ROTFL

 taroccamento di qualche disinformatore somaro.
Oppure è soltanto un titolo (sotto il quale il "disinformatore" pone l'art.
originale, che evidentemente gli "enigmi italiani" sogliono non leggere), e
svolge quindi le normali funzioni che ogni titolo svolge (attirare
l'attenzione in primis, sintetizzare in secundis), ma che gli "enigmi
italiani" ignorano. Non sarebbero enigmatici, otherwise...
Namib

Oppure è soltanto un titolo
E i titoli non possono avere lo scopo di fare disinformazione? :)
-Stefano

*Iraq bus and trams timetable*
http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/c/car-bomb.htm
Mass car bombings (by date)
When -Where- Deaths -Type
July 28, 2004 Police station, Baquba, Iraq 68 mini-bus bomb
June 26, 2004 Hilla, Iraq 23 car bombs (2)
June 24, 2004 Police stations, Mosul, Iraq 62 car bombs (5)
June 17, 2004 Iraqi army recruitment center, Baghdad, Iraq 35 car bomb
April 21, 2004 Police stations, Basra, Iraq 74 car bombs
February 11, 2004 Iraqi Army facility, Baghdad, Iraq 47 car bomb
February 10, 2004 Police Station, Iskandariya, Iraq 53 truck bomb
January 18, 2004 Coalition Headquarters, Baghdad, Iraq 31 truck bomb
December 31, 2003 Restaurant, Baghdad, Iraq 8 car bomb
December 27, 2003 Coalition targets, Karbala, Iraq 19 car bombs (4)
December 25, 2003 Assassination attempt, Islamabad, Pakistan 14 truck bombs
December 14, 2003 Police station, Khaldiyah, Iraq 20 car bomb
November 22, 2003 Police stations, Iraq 18 car bombs (2)
November 20, 2003 British targets, Istanbul, Turkey 32 truck bombs
November 15, 2003 Two synagogues, Istanbul, Turkey 31 truck bombs
November 12, 2003 Italian Military HQ in Nasiriyah, Iraq 33 truck bomb
November 8, 2003 Riyadh, Saudi Arabia 18 truck bomb
October 27, 2003 Baghdad, Iraq 35 car bombs (4)
October 12, 2003 Baghdad Hotel, Baghdad, Iraq 6 car bomb
October 9, 2003 Police station, Baghdad, Iraq 9 car bomb
August 29, 2003 Mosque, Najaf, Iraq 85 car bomb
August 25, 2003 Mumbai, India 52 car bombs (2)
August 19, 2003 United Nations Headquarters, Baghdad, Iraq 22 truck bomb
August 7, 2003 Jordanian Embassy, Baghdad, Iraq 19 truck bomb
August 5, 2003 Marriot Hotel, Jakarta, Indonesia 12 car bomb
August 1, 2003 Mozdok, Russia (near Chechnya) 50 truck bomb
May 12, 2003 Riyadh, Saudi Arabia 35 car bombs (4)
May 12, 2003 Znamenskoye, Chechnya 59 truck bomb
February 10, 2003 Bogotá, Colombia 36 car bomb
December 27, 2002 Government Buildings, Grozny, Chechnya 72 truck bombs
November 28, 2002 Hotel in Mombasa, Kenya 13 car bomb
October 21, 2002 Bus near Hadera, Israel 14 car bomb
October 12, 2002 Bali, Indonesia 202 car bomb
September 5, 2002 Kabul, Afghanistan 30 car bomb
June 14, 2002 US Consulate, Karachi, Pakistan 12 truck bomb
June 5, 2002 Bus, Megiddo Junction, Israel 17 car bomb
May 8, 2002 Bus, Karachi, Pakistan 14 car bomb
April 11, 2002 Synagogue, Djerba, Tunisia 21 truck bomb
April 7, 2002 Villavicencio, Colombia 12 car bomb
March 21, 2002 U.S. Embassy, Lima, Peru 9 car bomb
October 1, 2001 Assembly Building, Srinagar, Kashmir 38 car bomb
June 19, 2001 Gudermes, Chechnya 12 car bombs (3)
March 24, 2001 Mineralnye Vody, Russia 19 car bomb
March 5, 2001 BBC offices, London, United Kingdom 0 car bomb
January 26, 2001 San Sebastian, Spain 1 car bomb
July 3, 2000 Grozny, Chechnya 25 truck bomb
September 4, 1999 Russian military apartment, Buinaksk, Dagestan 64 car bomb
September 5, 1998 Apartment, Makhachkala, Dagestan 17 car bomb
August 15, 1998 Omagh, Northern Ireland 29 car bomb
August 7, 1998 U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Tanzania 224 car bombs 
(2)
March 5, 1998 Street, Colombo, Sri Lanka 36 mini-bus bomb
November 19, 1997 Hyderabad, India 23 car bomb
October 15, 1997 World Trade Center, Colombo, Sri Lanka 18 truck bomb
June 25, 1996 Khobar Towers, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia 19 truck bomb
January 31, 1996 Central Bank, Colombo, Sri Lanka
 90 truck bomb
December 21, 1995 Market, Peshawar, Pakistan 45 car bomb
November 19, 1995 Egyptian Embassy in Islamabad, Pakistan 15 truck bomb
November 13, 1995 U.S military headquarters in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia 7 car 
bomb
April 19, 1995 Federal building, Oklahoma City, United States 168 truck bomb
February 27, 1995 Zakho, Iraq 76 car bomb
January 30, 1995 Market, Algiers, Algeria 42 car bomb
July 18, 1994 Jewish center, Buenos Aires, Argentina 86 car bomb
April 6, 1994 Bus, Afula, Israel (First suicide bombing in Israel) 8 car 
bomb
June 21, 1993 Madrid, Spain 7 car bomb
May 27, 1993 Uffizi Gallery, Florence, Italy 6 car bomb
March 12, 1993 Mumbai, India (see 1993 Mumbai bombings) 257 car bombs
February 26, 1993 World Trade Center, New York City, USA 6 truck bomb
January 30, 1993 Bogotá, Colombia 20 car bomb
July 16, 1992 Shopping district, Lima, Peru 24 car bombs (2)
March 17, 1992 Israeli Embassy, Buenos Aires, Argentina 29 car bomb
May 12, 1990 Bogotá and Cali, Colombia 39 car bombs (3)
December 6, 1989 Bogotá, Colombia 52 truck bomb
May 16, 1989 Beirut, Lebanon 22 car bomb
April 23, 1988 Beirut, Lebanon 60 truck bomb
April 14, 1988 USO Club, Naples, Italy 5 car bomb
July 14, 1987 Karachi, Pakistan 72 car bombs (2)
July 5, 1987 Army Camp, Jaffna, Sri Lanka 40 truck bomb
June 19, 1987 Barcelona, Spain 21 car bomb
April 21, 1987 Bus station, Colombo, Sri Lanka 106 car bomb
August 19, 1986 Public square, Tehran, Iran 20 car bomb
March 17, 1986 Military compound, Damascus, Syria 60 truck bomb
September 12, 1985 Checkpoint, South Lebanon 20 car bomb
August 17, 1985 Market, Beirut, Lebanon 55 car bomb
August 8, 1985 Rhein-Main Air Base, Frankfurt, West Germany 2 car bomb
May 22, 1985 Beirut, Lebanon 50 car bomb
March 10, 1985 Israeli convoy, Southern Lebanon 12 car bomb
March 8, 1985 Beirut, Lebanon 80 car bomb
September 20, 1984 U.S. embassy in Beirut, Lebanon 23 car bomb
December 21, 1983 French Army building, Beirut, Lebanon 15 truck bomb
December 12, 1983 U.S. and French embassies in Kuwait City, Kuwait 6 truck 
bombs
November 4, 1983 Israeli Army HQ in Tyre, Lebanon 60 truck bomb
October 23, 1983 French Paratroop barracks in Beirut, Lebanon 58 truck bomb
October 23, 1983 U.S. Marines barracks in Beirut, Lebanon 241 truck bomb
May 20, 1983 Air Force Base in Pretoria, South Africa 20 car bomb
April 18, 1983 U.S. Embassy in Beirut, Lebanon 63 car bomb
February 2, 1983 Palestinian Research Center, Beirut, Lebanon 20 car bomb
January 28, 1983 PLO building, Beirut, Lebanon 45 car bomb
October 1, 1982 Central square, Tehran, Iran 60 truck bomb
September 14, 1982 Phalangist office, Beirut, Lebanon 26 car bomb
May 24, 1982 French Embassy, Beirut, Lebanon 14 car bomb
December 15, 1981 Iraqi Embassy, Beirut, Lebanon 61 car bomb
November 29, 1981 School, Damascus, Syria 64 car bomb
October 1, 1981 PLO Office, Beirut, Lebanon 83 car bomb
May 17, 1974 Dublin and Monaghan, Northern Ireland 33 car bombs (2)
May 11, 1972 U.S. Army HQ, Frankfurt, Germany 1 car bomb
March 30, 1965 U.S. Embassy, Saigon, South Vietnam 20 car bomb
March 11, 1948 Jewish Agency in Jerusalem, Palestine 11 car bomb
Assassinations by car bombings (by date)
When Where Target Type
May 17, 2004 Baghdad, Iraq Ezzedine Salim, Iraqi Governing Council leader 
Suicide car bomb
February 13, 2004 Doha, Qatar Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev, Fmr. Chechen President 
remote
November 20, 2003 Istanbul, Turkey Roger Short, British consul general 
Suicide truck bomb
August 29, 2003 Najaf, Iraq Ayatollah Mohammed Baqr al-Hakim , Iraqi cleric 
(with 84 others) remote
August 19, 2003 Baghdad, Iraq Sérgio Vieira de Mello, UN special 
representative (with 21 others) Suicide truck bomb
March 5, 2003 Paris, France Rene Chalon ignition-based
May 20, 2002 Beirut, Lebanon Mohammed Jihad Ahmed Jibril, son of PFLP-GC 
leader Ahmed Jibril unknown
January 24, 2002 Beirut, Lebanon Elie Hobeika, Phalangist militia leader 
remote
February 22, 2000 Vitoria, Spain Fernando Buesa, Basque Socialist Party 
leader remote
October 21, 1999 Ankara, Turkey Ahmet Taner Kislali, prominent Turkish 
intellectual tilt-based
July 30, 1990 London, England Ian Gow, Conservative MP dynamite
May 16, 1989 Beirut, Lebanon Hassan Khaled, Lebanese spiritual leader (with 
21 others) remote
June 28, 1988 Athens, Greece William Nordeen, U.S. military attache remote
September 14, 1982 Beirut, Lebanon Bachir Gemayel, Phalangist President of 
Lebanon (and 25 others) timer
March 30, 1979 Palace of Westminster, United Kingdom Shadow Northern Ireland 
Secretary Airey Neave tilt-based
September 21, 1976 Washington, D.C., U.S. Orlando Letelier, Chilean exile 
unknown
June 2, 1976 Phoenix, Arizona, U.S. Don Bolles, investigative reporter 
remote (dynamite)
September 30, 1974 Buenos Aires, Argentina Carlos Prats, Former Chilean army 
commander
December 4, 1928 Chicago, U.S. "Dapper" Danny Hogan, mobster unknown

 
Chi lo spiega all'idiota di Giano che nel titolo ha scritto una delle
sue solite puttanate? :)
-Stefano

 E i titoli non possono avere lo scopo di fare disinformazione? :)
No. Basta leggere quello che c'è sotto.
Namib

No.
Se lo dici tu... :)
*LOL*
-Stefano

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#_Basti tu Lollona...non ti ho mica plonkato!
Piu`sputtanamenti che t'ho dato che vuoi!?
Quello e` il ritmo di bus o tram che girano ogni giorno in Iraq se non ci
credi cerca qualche notizia sui media di massima, come BBc o anche CNN.
In Iraq stai sicura che se ne perdi uno dei bus ne trovi un altro in 15/20
minuti.
<</Internal security is presented either as pockets of resistance by Allawi
and war supporters, and by critics as a widespread and growing insuregency
obviously suppoerted by enough Iraqis to level **an average of eighty
attacks a day **at coalition forces and Iraqis. There have been a hundred
kidnappings of foreign nationals, nearly 30 of whom have been babarically
murdered, and even more Iraqis held to ransom, but this rarely makes the
Western press.>>
G.