Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale
Titolo: Minacciare la shoah

Magari si potrebbe cacciare 'sto Vilnai, no?
Namib
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http://www.canada.com/globaltv/ontario/story.html?id=59cc83f8-dbc3-4182-b873-ef7d9b2a7167&k=96789
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - A senior Israeli defence official said on Friday 
that Palestinians firing rockets from the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip 
would bring upon themselves what he termed a "shoah", the Hebrew word 
for holocaust or 
disaster.vi
The word is rarely used in Israel outside discussions of the Nazi 
Holocaust of Jews. Many Israelis are loath to countenance its use to 
describe other contemporary events.
Israeli air strikes have killed at least 33 Gazans, including five 
children, in the past two days, and Israeli leaders said cross-border 
rocket fire may leave the Jewish state with little choice but to launch 
a broader military offensive.
One Israeli was killed in a rocket attack on Wednesday in the southern 
border town of Sderot. Tensions increased further after longer-range 
rockets hit the city of Ashkelon, a major population centre about 10 km 
(6 miles) from Gaza.
"The more Qassam (rocket) fire intensifies and the rockets reach a 
longer range, they (the Palestinians) will bring upon themselves a 
bigger 'shoah' because we will use all our might to defend ourselves,"
Vilnai told Army Radio.
Vilnai's spokesman said: "Mr. Vilnai was meaning 'disaster'. He did not 
mean to make any allusion to the genocide."
Israel's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Arye Mekel, added: "Deputy Defence 
Minister Matan Vilnai used the Hebrew phrase that included the term 
'shoah' in Hebrew in the sense of a disaster or a catastrophe, and not 
in the sense of a holocaust."
Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri said of Vilnai's comments: "We are facing 
new Nazis who want to kill and burn the Palestinian people."
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has so far been wary of launching a 
major ground offensive, which could incur heavy casualties and derail 
U.S.-backed peace talks with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. But 
domestic pressure is growing.
Ismail Haniyeh, Hamas's prime minister in the Gaza Strip, described the 
threat of a major Israeli offensive as "craziness and hysteria", saying: 
"Our people are facing a real war."
Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak sought to prepare the way for an 
offensive by sending confidential messages to world leaders, including 
U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who plans to visit the region 
next week.

 Magari si potrebbe cacciare 'sto Vilnai, no?
Direi di si: oltre che una merda e' pure un coglione, il mix peggiore.
Palmiro Pangloss
-- 
Tarpaulin: Amarcord Cold War
http://tarpaulin.blogspot.com/

 bigger 'shoah'
toh, mi è sembraro di aver sentito parlare un nazisionista.....:D

 Magari si potrebbe cacciare 'sto Vilnai, no?
e magari qualcuno potrebbe commentare anche 'sta roba qua, no?
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1204213993792&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Mashaal: IDF action in Gaza a Holocaust
AP and 
jpost.com
 staff , THE JERUSALEM POST 	Mar. 1, 2008
Exiled Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal denounced an Israeli operation in
the Gaza strip on Saturday, describing it as "the real Holocaust."
Thirty-three Gazans, including civilians, have died in pitched battles
between IDF troops and Palestinian rocket squads that escalated
sharply on Saturday. West Bank leaders have threatened to suspend
peace talks to protest the Israeli attacks, which came as terrorists
in Gaza bombarded southern Israel with dozens of rockets and mortars.
"Israeli actions in Gaza since Wednesday is the real Holocaust,"
Mashaal told reporters in Damascus, where he lives in exile.
He accused Israel of "exaggerating the Holocaust and using it to
blackmail the world."
He also lashed out at Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas,
accusing him of "providing a cover for the Israeli Holocaust" in Gaza
by claiming that Hamas terrorists were sheltering al-Qaida terrorists.
He also blamed some European countries, without naming them, for
keeping silent on Israeli attacks against Palestinian civilians.
"It is shameful that some Western countries try to clear their
conscience with regards to the Holocaust that took place on their own
land by being silent on the real Holocaust being committed by Israel
against the Palestinian people," he said.
Mashaal's multiple references to the Holocaust appeared to be a
reaction to a statement Friday by Deputy Defense Minister Matan Vilnai
who told Israeli Army Radio that Israel had "no other choice" but to
launch a massive military operation in Gaza. Vilnai said the
Palestinians would be "bringing upon themselves a greater 'shoah'
because we will use all our strength in every way we deem appropriate,
whether in airstrikes or on the ground."
The Hebrew word "shoah" most often refers to the Holocaust but
Israelis use it to describe all sorts of disasters. Vilnai spokesman
Eitan Ginzburg said the deputy defense minister never intended it as a
reference to the Holocaust but used the word "shoah" to denote a
disaster.
Mashaal warned Israel against the "folly" of invading Gaza, saying
Israeli soldiers would be defeated by Palestinians who "will fight
like lions."
The Hamas leader called on Arabs and Muslims worldwide to "go back to
the streets in the East and West ... to tell the world that 'we will
not stay silent in the face of this Holocaust'."

 e magari qualcuno potrebbe commentare anche 'sta roba qua
bene, non prendi le distanze da un nazisionista. Chissà perchè me lo
aspettavo.

 Direi di si: oltre che una merda e' pure un coglione, il mix peggiore.
eh già, quel coglione ha rivelato quel che il governo di Tel Aviv ha
sempre pensato di fare dei palestinesi .

 Magari si potrebbe cacciare 'sto Vilnai, no?
o forse si potrebbe studiare la lingua del posto
http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/530786/the-mother-of-all-mistranslations.thtml


oh guarda, un documentato parere di sergio a favore dello Stato di
Israele.

 o forse si potrebbe studiare la lingua del postohttp://
www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/530786/the-mother-of-all-m.
..
The Yad Vashem Holocaust Museum in Israel constantly uses "shoa" to
refer to the holocaust, as you can see on their website, 
http://www.yadvashem.org/
ergo, non è vero che " In Hebrew, the word 'shoah' is never used to
mean 'holocaust'"

 mean 'holocaust'"
sai leggere l'ebraico?

 wrote:
PS: complimenti, vedo che come sergio, ti nutri di stampa inglese
conservatrice...:D