Newsgroup: it.scienza.ambiente
Titolo: Re: MI5-Persecution: MI5 Waste Taxpayer Millions on Pointless Hate-Campaign (18634)

which federal judges serve in the
Star Chamber.
P466-467: The FISA court judge rules that black-bag jobs of "nonresidential
premises under the direction or control of a foreign power" need no court
approval. The FISA legislation also exempts from judicial review communica-
tions of these sites, including embassies. P464: A final judicial review
exception authorized the Agency to distribute the communication if it relates
to criminal activity.
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P468-469: Within the United States, FISA still leaves the NSA free to pull
into its massive vacuum cleaner every telephone call and message entering,
leaving, OR TRANSITING the country.
By carefully inserting the words "by the National Security Agency" into the
FISA legislation, the NSA has skillfully excluded from the coverage of the
FISA statute as well as the surveillance court all interceptions received
from the British GCHQ or any other non-NSA source.
Thus it is possible for GCHQ to monitor the necessary domestic circuits
and pass them on to the NSA through the UKUSA Agreement, giving them
impunity to target and watch-list Americans.
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As has already happened repeatedly: the government will use
this National Spying Apparatus to crush political protests,
and monitor the politically incorrect.
In the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s... and the 1990s.
Question:
    Why argue against something that would catch crime?
Answer:
    ECHELON is so invasive we lose all privacy.
    It is infinitely abusable.
    It has been abused repeatedly.
    CALEA takes us into the abyss.
Would monitoring really turn up that many violations?
Meaning: is it really that effective a mechanism?
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                              On Monitoring
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I am a traffic analysis person.
Internet email.  Company spook.
Boo.
The bad news: getting people fired.
The good news: really great Internet humor is picked up too.
    From the land of "Put the shrimp on the barby, Marlene:"
 
    I was travelling on a tram the other day and in one seat
    there was an old digger (Australian soldier or ex soldier)
    reading his newspaper.
 
    Across from him was a juvenile with a spikey mohawk haircut
    coloured pink, green, orange and yellow.
 
    The old digger kept looking over his newspaper at him.
 
    Finally the young bloke spat the dummy, and yelled at the
    elderly gent, "What the f......k are you looking at you silly
    old bastard, haven't you ever done anything outrageous yourself ?
 
    As cool as a cucumber the old digger put down his paper and said,
 
    "I screwed a parrot once, and I was wondering if you were my son"
Actually, I consider the people to have fired themselves.
It's weird when you're on the controlling side: I almost started putting
skull sticke