Newsgroup: it.arti.cinema
Titolo: #1: Di cosa parla Top Gun in realta'?

Salve a tutti,
questo e' il primo messaggio che mando a IAC. E' da qualche giorno che vi ho scoperti
e, avendo trovato questo dialogo molto divertente oltre che sconosciuto, almeno a me,
(a proposito qualcuno sa che film sia?) ho pensato che vi potesse interessare.
Purtroppo e' in inglese, ma traducendolo secondo me perde molto. Dovrebbe essere stato
scritto da QT, ma forse c'e' anche lo zampino di Roger Avary (che, tra le altre cose,
aveva firmato la sceneggiatura di PF insieme a QT). Spero solo non offenda nessuno.
Quentin's Monologue from 'Sleep With Me'
    What's a film about, what's it really about? What genre does it take?
[Duane: What, like the spine? Like one sentence?]
    No, I don't, fucking boy meets girl, I don't give a shit about that. Fuck
    boy meets girl, fuck motorcycle movie. No, what is really being said? What's
    really being said, that's what you're talking about. 'Cause the whole idea,
    man, is subversion. You want subversion on a massive level. You know what
    one of the greatest fucking scripts ever written in the history of Hollywood
    is? Top Gun.
[Duane: Oh, come on.]
    Top Gun is fucking great. What is Top Gun? You think it's a story about a
    bunch of fighter pilots.
[Duane: It's about a bunch of guys waving their dicks around.]
    It is a story about a man's struggle with his own homosexuality. It is!
    That is what Top Gun is about, man.
    You've got Maverick, all right? He's on the edge, man. He's right on the
    fucking line, all right? And you've got Iceman, and all his crew. They're
    gay, they represent the gay man, all right? And they're saying, go, go the
    gay way, go the gay way. He could go both ways.
[Duane: What about Kelly McGillis?]
    Kelly McGillis, she's heterosexuality. She's saying: no, no, no, no, no, no,
    go the normal way, play by the rules, go the normal way. They're saying no,
    go the gay way, be the gay way, go for the gay way, all right? That is
    what's going on throughout that whole movie...
    He goes to her house, all right? It looks like they're going to have sex,
    you know, they're just kind of sitting back, he's takin' a shower and
    everything. They don't have sex. He gets on the motorcycle, drives away.
    She's like, "What the fuck, what the fuck is going on here?" Next scene,
    next scene you see her, she's in the elevator, she is dressed like a guy.
    She's got the cap on, she's got the aviator glasses, she's wearing the same
    jacket that the Iceman wears. She is, okay, this is how I gotta get this
    guy, this guy's going towards the gay way, I gotta bring him back, I gotta
    bring him back from the gay way, so I'm do that through subterfuge, I'm
    gonna dress like a man. All right? That is how she approaches it.
    Okay, now let me just ask you--I'm gonna digress for two seconds here. I met
    this girl Amy here, she's like floating around here and everything. Now, she
    just got divorced, right?...
    All right, but the REAL ending of the movie is when they fight the MIGs at
    the end, all right? Because he has passed over into the gay way. They are
    this gay fighting fucking force, all right? And they're beating the
    Russians, the gays are beating the Russians. And it's over, and they fucking
    land, and Iceman's been trying to get Maverick the entire time, and finally,
    he's got him, all right? And what is the last fucking line that they have
    together? They're all hugging and kissing and happy with each other, and Ice
    comes up to Maverick, and he says, "Man, you can ride my tail, anytime!" And
    what does Maverick say? "You can ride mine!" Swordfight! Swordfight! Fuckin'
    A, man!
That's all folks
                                                                    estefito
 
s.s...@studenti.to.it
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 [Duane: What, like the spine? Like one sentence?]
[snippete]
beh, il regista non è Tony Scott? avevo letto da qualche parte che spesso 
i suoi film parlano di omosessualita'... cmq lascio ai veri bagonghi 
cinefili confermare
IT il non 'seperto'
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aveva firmato la sceneggiatura di PF insieme a QT). Spero solo non offenda nessuno.
Si', si'!!!!!!!!!
Pensa che per mesi ho avuto nella sign questa frase: "Top Gun e' la storia
di un uomo che combatte la propria omosessualita'".
Impossibilitato a trovarne la versione originale inglese l'ho tolta, ma
adesso la ripristino subito.
Comunque il film da cui e' tratto il monologo e', in italiano, "Il tuo
amico nel mio letto", con Eric Stoltz.
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Graziano Montanini - Reggio Emilia - Tel.0522/293688 - ICQ 2064857 - 25 anni
"Music exists only to express what is not possible to be expressed by words"
Top Gun is a story about a man's struggle with his own homosexuality
N.1 fan of Ratman, Shane Mc Gowan and Abbas Kiarostami

amico nel mio letto", con Eric Stoltz.
Si, e il monologo di tarantino e' l'unica cosa che si salva del
film...
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Che bella cosa 'na jurnata 'e sole...
ciaociao
.mrwhite.
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use the condom. remove it to reply.

azz c'era anche scritto!
Infatti io volevo dire che non sapevo il nome italiano, visto che hanno sempre la
simpatica mania di tradurre i titoli un po' come gli gira (vedi "Vertigo" di AH).
Ti ringrazio quindi dell'informazione e, a proposito della tuo sito ti consiglio di
aggiungere anche questo indirizzo:
http://www.mclink.it/mclink/cinema/
che contiene una miriade di link molto interessanti.
bye
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