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Titolo: [MO] Jewish opposition in the US: Reflections & News

1) Message from Adam Davis, a courageous Jew who was
willing to stand up for what is right. It is an
inspiring testimony to the power of humanity over
tribalism/racism:
<omissis>
The rest of the rally was made up of empty speeches. My
own rabbi that I had grown up with, spoke. He has had a
lasting impression on me throughout my life. The two
things that I learned from him, throughout my education
are: 1) As a Jew, I should question everything, even
the existence of God; and 2) As a Jew, it is my duty to
create a "caring and compassionate society." Well, it
seems as though only one of us has fulfilled his words.
I support a free Palestine, because I question the
morality of Zionism (which is NOT the same as Judaism),
and because I will not stand by, as so many people did
in Europe while my family was being killed, and let any
other people be slaughtered and oppressed. If I stand
by and let this happen without standing up, then I will
be those people who kept their mouths shut while we
burned in death camps.
I want more than a Palestinian state, though. I want
Israelis and Jews worldwide along with Palestinians,
Muslims worldwide, and Arabs, to be able to reconcile
differences that we have fought over in the past
millennium. We are too close to each other, in
proximity, in faith, in struggle, to be enemies.
Creating a Palestinian state will not be the end of
this conflict. Many Israelis and Jews will still hate
Palestinians and vice versa. If we cannot create a
dialogue around the world, alongside the creation of a
Palestinian state, before too long, we will all be at
war with each other, and what has that ever
accomplished?
<omissis>
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 1) Message from Adam Davis,
Risponde Mazin Qumsiyeh
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When Palestinians do come back (and they will) and when
we have a pluralistic society for all (and we will),
will the descendants of those expelled Palestinians
remember more the words and actions of Hezle, Ben
Gurion, Barak, and Sharon or will they remember the
words and actions of Martin Buber, Israel Shahak, Uri
Avneri, or Adam Davis. Will those memories teach us to
be more tolerant of each other or will it instill in us
the kind of self-righteous, know it all, "we were the
perpetual victim" mentality.
Perhaps I take hart from
Adam's examples and arguments and others listed in teh
news stories below. Victims of the Holocaust took
different lessons from it. Some, perhaps goaded or
misled by simplistic and rather unrealistic the notion
of separation/apartheid thought "never again" but meant
never again to us Jews and thus we must separate
ourselves from humanity. To make sure this does not
happen, we will build a very strong state based on
Jewish power. A logical place was Palestine, the
ancient homeland of the Jews. Ofcourse only problem
was that Palestine was already heavily inhabited and
the native population was not simply going to consent
to having sovereignty of their land transferred to an
extra national entity. Other Holocaust survivors and
their children like Norman Finkelstein, Israel Shahak
and tens of thousands like them took the message that
never again will we allow hatred or racism against
anyone. Others also rejected the notion of a new
secular "Jewish state" based on theological arguments
(this was true of essentially all Orthodox Jews until
1967 and still now common among the ultra-orthodox like
the Naturei Karta).
I am confident that an exclusionary Palestinian
movement analogous to Zionism will not gain widespread
recognition nor would ever be allowed to get a foothold
analogous to that of Zionism in Jewish masses. I know
this because I saw it happen with natives in other
parts of the world. In South Africa, the Blacks won
their freedom but did not push the whites into the sea
as was feared. Palestinians will not push Jews into
the sea (actually the reverse already happened: in
1948, Palestinians were literally pushed into the sea
at Jaffa and were loaded into boats which took them to
Gaza). It is also something that the world would
never tolerate in the 21st century (witness Serbia).
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Da una sopravvissuta ad Auschwitz.
http://www.jewishsf.com/bk020426/sf35.shtml
<<But instead, the Berkeley woman is among a minority of survivors who
believe that because of their Holocaust history, Jews should not turn around
and inflict measures of collective punishment on another people, as they
contend Israel is doing to the Palestinians.
"I believe in justice first, before anything else, and in the current
circumstances of this conflict, justice is not on the side of the Israelis,"
she said.>>

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Stefano