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Titolo: Introspettiva analisi di "Animals"

Pigs On The Wing (part one)
     The opening and closing tracks are almost identical,
and are actually love songs, which is very
uncharacteristic of Waters. He wrote the songs for his new
wife, Carolyne Christie, who is the niece of
the Marquis of Zetland and a one time secretary to Pink
Floyd producer Bob Ezrin. At first listen, it is
an obtrusive, meaningless piece in the way of the meat of
the album. Upon closer inspection, it is the
only thing that keeps the album from being a 45 minute, as
Waters puts it, "scream of rage".
Apparantly, Carolyne was exactly what Waters needed, someone
to match wits with his argumentative
and pessemistic mind. "Roger was very good with words, and
you had to be good at semantics to beat
him in an argument." says Peter Jenner. "Poor Syd didn't
have that skill, and neither did any of the
others for that matter. I think he was looking for someone
to stand up to him all along." The song was
one of the last to be recorded, and was written by Waters in
a demo session a few months earlier. The
song's meaning is that Waters had finally found someone who
can help him escape the madness of life.
This especially rang true for Waters following the huge
success of "Wish You Were Here" and "Dark
Side Of The Moon", and his new wife made him much happier
and stopped him from transforming into
a "pig". Even the band said he was much easier to work
with.The third line comes from the original
version of "Sheep", called "Raving and Drooling", and stems
from the phrase "and pigs might fly",
meaning achieving the impossible. The Floyd certainly did
just that with this incredible album.
Pigs (Three Different Ones)
"Pigs" are those who think they know what is right for
everyone, regardless of what they think. These
people are simply charades, and their overbearing nature and
tendancy to act like they are better than
everyone else is really a product of their own fears in
life. The song has three verses and one pig in
each verse. The first pig is a corporate pig, who does
everything he can to get success, almost like a
dog. The second pig is a bitter woman Waters says represents
Margaret Thatcher, whose conservative
political views clash harshly with Waters' strong socialist
politics. The third pig is Mary Whitehouse,
leader of the National Viewers and Listeners Association at
the time, and strong campaigner for
censorship in Britain, which Waters was very much opposed
to. Waters tinkered with the lyrics for six
months, and feared using her name because of retaliation,
but after seeing her in the papers week after
week decided to put it in. She made nasty comments about
Pink Floyd in the 60's, claiming they
glorified drugs, sex and hedonism. "Why does she make such a
fuss about everything if she isn't
motivated by fear?" asked Waters. "She's frightened that
we're all being perverted." The middle part of
the song is Gilmour's talk box imitating a squealing pig,
which uses voice to shape the notes, which
makes the guitar talk. This song contains some of Waters'
most bitter and ingenius lyrics, most notably
"you radiate cold shafts of broken glass", which is a gem in
the Floyd lyric archives. There is a rich
imagery of words here, "pig stain on your fat chin", "tight
lips and cold feet", all evoke images of
greedy, power-hungry...well, pigs.
Sheep
Waters wrote "Sheep" specifically for the road, and it was
played under its original title of "Raving and
Drooling" at the same time that "Dogs" appeared in the
Floyd's set list. Written about a man who was
clearly insane, Waters thought the band should include some
new material in the set list, and even
changed the title (temporarily) to "I Fell On His Neck With
A Scream", a very old Floydian style of
song title. Waters re-wrote the lyrics for the album,
creating a vision of ignorant, peaceful beings being
led to the slaughterhouse, suddenly realizing what is wrong,
then rebelling against their oppressors.
Disturbingly, there is a parody of the 23rd psalm, performed
by Nick Mason live, but on the album it is
an unknown Floyd roadie blaspheming through a vocoder. The
verse does contain a very intersting use
of words "with bright knives"--very discriptive indeed. The
song's literal meaning is that of what could
happen if the conditions in England did not get better, that
the people might revolt against the "too
conservative" government. Waters' own socialist beliefs are
very prominent here, and was seen as a
prophetic view of Britain in the 80's. Roger puts it this
way: "Sheep was my sense of what was to come
down in England, and it did last summer with the riots in
England, in Brixton and Toxeth, and it will
happen again. It will always happen. There are too many of
us in the world and we treat each other
badly. We get obsessed with things, and there aren't enough
of things, products, to go round. If we're
persuaded it's important to have them, that we're nothing
without them, and there aren't enough of
them to go round, the people without them are going to get
angry. Content and discontent follow very
closely the rise and fall on the graph of world recession
and expansion." Although Gilmour was very
pleased with his solo at the end (it is one of the finest
Floyd riffs ever), he didn't include it on the '87 or
'94 tours. He claimed he couldn't achieve the bitter vocals
well enough, though he has hinted at it
popping up on the next tour.
Pigs On The Wing (part two)
This coda, to what may be the most downbeat album Pink Floyd
ever recorded, is an upbeat way to
bring the album down gently and not end on a sour note. It
also functions to preserve the continuity of
the album, which in many ways is a negative way of saying
the cycle is never-ending. The positive
overtone, however, is that if you find someone you can share
your life with, you can avoid the harmful
effects of the Dogs, Pigs and Sheep. Waters says the first
verse means "where would I be without
you?" and the second verse says "in the face of all this
other shit--you care, and that makes it possible
to survive."
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Che pensi di quest'album ? io credo che la critica lo abbia abbondantemente
bersagliato, ma ingiustamente. A parte ogni considerazione, Waters stava
cercando di essere sincero, di parlare con chiarezza. La musica , a mio
parere, tolte alcune parti un po' ripetitive, mi sembra molto ispirata. Io,
poi, gli sono particolarmente legato, perche' e' il primo lp rock ( anzi,
era una cassetta, che ancora posseggo) che ho ascoltato. Avevo 10 anni. Un
buon inizio, no ? Sarebbe un bel gioco, conoscere il primo lp rock ascoltato
dai partecipanti al ng...
Ciao BP

 ascoltato dai partecipanti al ng...
Io "Zuma" di Nei Young, poi "Dark Side" e "Wish" dei PF, quindi "68-71" dei VDGG
:-))
bye stànz

tuffatore della copertina...
Cosi' ne approfitto bassamente per scroccarti consigli di bieco carattere
turistico. Dovendo visitare New York, dal 10 al 22 Settembre, tu dove mi
indirizzeresti ? Quali sono, per te, i luoghi imprescindibili di una visita
alla Grande Mela ? So che e' OT, ma, sai, una piu' una meno, ormai  con me
siete abituati...
Ciao BP

 
non ricordo quale fosse il primo;
il primo gruppo che divenne un "mio" gruppo furono i Jethro Tull;
ricordo invece con esattezza il primo (e unico) 45 acquistato: Samba pa
ti dei Santana;
ah, e ho un flash perfetto di me in quel periodo che esitavo se
allungare o no la mano per prendere un disco dei Gong;
non l'allungai; e mi sono a lungo maledetto per questo; li scopersi
molti anni dopo;
Rama Rivangante
ps
mi sono appena ricordato che un altro 45 l'ho comprato, quello dei Tom
Tom Club
-- 
That is not it at all,
That is not what I meant, at all.
(The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock)
http://www.mythos.it/utenti/ramapage/index.htm
mirror: 
http://www.freeweb.org/freeweb/Ramapage

 Tom Club
Quello di "Mago G chiudi gli occhi apri la bocca" (spot biscotti galbusera primi
'80) ???
s...

 siete abituati...
Direi che io m'intendo SOLO della West Coast. Almeno per ora. Cmq. mi avevano
detto i miei *soci pazzi di viaggio*, che c'erano già stati, che la parte East
fa abbastanza schifo: tanto che facendo il coast-to-coast, almeno fino al Maine
ti annoi, è come passare attraverso la Pianura Padana (o giù di lì). Di cnsgz.:
è meglio piombare a Los Angeles (come abbiamo fatto noi), prendere una
macchina, e farsi bene i seguenti stati: California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas
(o alternativamente, se non vai nel New Mexico, vai su verso lo Utah, Wyoming,
Nevada).
bye stànz

stanz ha scritto:
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non saprei, sono anni che ho in corso una faida con i pubblicitari
(masticacadaveri! lemuri! iene!); credo che fosse il primo hit di Tina e
signore;
Rama Smemorato
ps
il vinile è impacchettato su in mansarda, per controllare dovrei
combinare un casino, e non ne vale la pena, no?
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Si, mi piace.
Io ho iniziato con "Verità nascoste" Le Orme, "Harvest" Neil Young, "The
Yes Album" Yes.
Ciao
Tempest


Can you tell me where my country lies ?
           Peter,Phil,Michael,Tony,Steve
"Dove vuoi rubare oggi ?"
                 Moggi,Bettega,Chiusano           
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> dai partecipanti al ng...
Uhmmm... Prog? "Foxtrot".
Rock in generale? Uhmm... Mi si passa "Sign 'O' the times"?
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Ciao e a presto
Fabio
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 dai partecipanti al ng...
Il mio è stato Abraxas di Santana; tuttora non mi stancherei mai
di ascoltarlo.
Ciao a tutti
Gianmarco

Il mio primo LP e' stato Nursery Crime.
Ascoltato alla fine di giugno del 1974, di continuo per tre giorni di fila,
mentre stavo facendo un puzzle, su una mangiacassette da quattro colpi.
Il terzo giorno e' stato entusiasmante.
L'amore per i Genesis mi si e' cosi' insinuato lentamente ma inesorabilmente
in quei tre giorni e non mi ha piu' lasciato; a dir la verita' fino
all'ascolto di Wind And Wuthering.
Su quello che e' venuto dopo devo stendere un pietoso velo.
Ciao.
Sergio
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sergio xe in linia
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 all'ascolto di Wind And Wuthering.
Grande,anche se a mio giudizio,meritano tantissimo anche "Duke e "...and
then were three".Da qui in poi i Genesis hanno fatto cose semplici,fino
ad arrivare all'ultimo lavoro...la vera fine di questo gruppo.
Ciao.
		RIKI

then were three".
Da te non me l'aspettavo proprio. Mi cade un mito! ;D
Personalmente, l'unica cosa buona che ho trovato in "Duke" e' stata
"Duchess" (tra l'altro parecchio auto-profetica, non trovi?).
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E' ovvio che non saranno mai alla pari dei primi di Gabriel,però posso
darti ragione da Duke in poi...dove i Genesis personalmente non mi hanno
dato più emozioni...ma con Duke,suvvia...certo il progressive è in
versione ridotta...comunque adoro le tre di Banks "Guide
Vocal","Heathaze" e "Cul-de-sac" e poi che dire della sputtanatissima
"Turn it on again" e della sorprendente progressivissima "Duke's
travels"?
Se si vuole ce ne sono di spunti positivi...non c'è problema.
Ciao.
		RIKI

Se si vuole ce ne sono di spunti positivi...non c'č problema.
Allora forse non voglio. ;DDDD
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