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Titolo: Minchia che caldo

Mi si sono liquefatte la palle oggi...
Allora, facciamo la conta.
Quanti hanno visto City Of God nel week end passato?
Tutti quelli che l'hanno visto mettano la firma qua sotto.


un 15 gg fa.
Luke

 Quanti hanno visto City Of God nel week end passato?
Se vale il divx sto per guardarlo adesso.

 Tutti quelli che l'hanno visto mettano la firma qua sotto.
Una ventina di giorni fa.
Ottimo. E non aggiungo altro perché ho caldo.
Ciau!
BenSG

beviti un tamarindo
N.

 beviti un tamarindo
Sono spiato! =8-O

 Quanti hanno visto City Of God nel week end passato?
Io non ancora, ma sto leggendo il libro, fa lo stesso?
(A sproposito, visto che non volevo aprire nuovi thread e qui siamo cmq
offtopic, come OCC ti dedico questo articolo sul coso dei Wachowski: mi
sembra molto equilibrato e lucido e direi di poterne sottoscrivere ogni
frase. E' una critica costruttiva e mi sembra sincera)
Philip Graham sul NY Times (vedi qui sotto)
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/01/movies/01GRAH.html?8mu
)
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A Memo to the Wachowskis From a Disappointed Fan
By PHILIP GRAHAM
WHEN my 16-year-old son and I left the multiplex on opening night 
of "The Matrix Reloaded," he shook his head in disappointment "
the 
same slow, sad gesture he'd made four years ago as we left the 
theater after seeing "Star Wars: Episode 1 " The Phantom Menace." 
No, the Wachowski brothers hadn't perpetrated anything as egregious 
as Jar-Jar Binks. But they had still dropped the ball, big time, and 
all that anticipation for "The Matrix Reloaded" now seemed like a 
bad fever dream.
I know it's too late for my comments to be of any help. The movie's 
out, the third installment is already in the can. But what's really 
been bothering me " what I can't stop thinking about " is how
much 
better the film would have been with just a few well-targeted 
tweaks. Wachowski brothers: if you ever get a chance to reload your 
own movie, perhaps these modest suggestions might assist you.
- Keep the nasty industrial grind music. It worked perfectly for
the 
first movie. In "Reloaded," something techno and rude occasionally 
rears its ugly head, but it's too often drowned out by an orchestra 
and a cloying heavenly choir. When the score starts copping Igor 
Stravinsky and Philip Glass, the pretension just begs to be beaten 
with a sheaf of batons. Granted, the "Matrix" movies are designed to 
be pretentious, with all those dopey names like Morpheus and Trinity 
(and how about, for future films, Piety, or Eucharist, or Pompous?). 
But they should be a cool kind of pretentious, with more scary 
guitars and such in the background.
- Get us out of Zion, and fast. Cut the beginning by at least 20 
minutes. No one cares about the petty rivalries in this underground 
outpost of humanity. Remember: gray-haired elders intoning wisdom 
equals narrative death. If we have to be in Zion, keep the sets 
small and constricted. Zion is just too unbelievably big. It doesn't 
seem vulnerable, doesn't enlist our sympathy for this put-upon rebel 
community.
As for that interminable group-grope of a dance, it's such a slow-
moving target that I needn't say another word.
- Scare us, please. Let's see much more of those Machine-Spider-
Thingies, as they bear down on Zion. Their ominous advance is the 
equivalent of that hoary old movie stand-by, the ticking clock. Keep 
reminding us, visually, that the nasty, tentacled gizmos are getting 
closer and closer. We shouldn't have to wait until nearly the end of 
the second hour for our first glimpse of them.
- Speaking of scare tactics, I have to admit that the
Merovingian's 
programmed food is a good one. When he sends the chocolate cake to 
the blonde, we worry that perhaps something worse than weight gain 
is about to happen to her.
When she sighs with pleasure, we feel relieved " and then we
squirm, 
unsettled by the creepy, rape-like encounter. This programming trick 
is one of the few effective new ideas in "Reloaded" - and I wish 
you'd done more with it. What else could programmed food do to the 
unsuspecting in the Matrix? Develop this, and even the seemingly 
innocent sight of a granola bar on a coffee table would keep the 
audience edgy.
- Since we're on the subject of dramatic tension: despite its 
technical wizardry, the fight scene you call the "Burly Brawl," with 
all those Agent Smiths, is still lame, and for a simple reason. 
There's no point to it. The scene seems plopped down in the movie 
for no apparent reason, except as a special-effects interlude. It 
didn't have to be this way: the first Agent Smith arrives right 
after Neo's interview with the Oracle, once she's safely returned to 
that hidden corridor with her bodyguard. But if Agent Smith and 
company were to arrive before her escape, then Neo - and the 
Oracle's bodyguard - could fight to protect her from the
malevolent 
carbon copies of Agent Smith. With this one added stroke, there 
would be something at risk, something to lose - and dramatic
point 
to the mayhem.
- Which brings me to my next suggestion: make Neo vulnerable.
Would 
it kill Neo to react just a teeny bit more as the Smith posse keeps 
replicating? I know we're talking Keanu Reeves here, but surely the 
man is capable of widening his eyes, dropping his jaw, wrinkling his 
brow as it becomes clear that there's no end in sight to all those 
SmithSmithSmithSmithSmithSmiths. Otherwise, all his impressive 
fighting skills appear to be nothing more than a round of 
calisthenics, a dutiful workout to limber him up before he flies 
away. In "Reloaded," Neo should have to struggle to control and 
focus his new skills, so the audience can worry about and root for 
him. And if Neo does make mistakes, then it would finally make sense 
that some of the Zionites doubt that Neo is indeed the One.
- Finally, when Neo meets the Architect, it shouldn't look as if 
they're having a rendezvous in the high-definition flat-screen 
department of Best Buy.
More important, the Architect spills all the metaphysical beans 
right at the end of the movie. If Neo had at least an inkling 
earlier of what would eventually be revealed, and if his growing 
suspicions fueled his actions, then - and I just hate to repeat 
myself - there would be more dramatic tension.
Remember: You once knew all of this. I'm certain of it - I saw
the 
first "Matrix" movie. You know, that stylish flick you made in the 
previous century, before snack-food commercials imitated your 
special-effects moves, before the fashion industry borrowed your 
look for a season or two, before an academic industry pried into 
every nook and cranny of your film stock, before you started wasting 
your time developing video games, way before it was impossible to 
find a single person on the Warner Brothers lot who was willing to 
say, before it was too late, that your new movie stinks.
P.S. Is that why there are so many Smiths in the phone book? 
Philip Graham is a fiction writer who teaches at the University of 
Illinois. An early version of this article appeared on 
themorningnews.org
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UFV:L'ultimo metrò/My name is Tanino/Marquis De Sade's "Justine"(DVD)
28 giorni dopo/Diabolik/Tre punto sei/Matrix Reloaded/Fausto 5.0

 Philip Graham sul NY Times (vedi qui sotto)
Beh, si vede uno sceneggiatore bravo da uno cattivo.
Ha ragione in pieno, la sceneggiatura di MR e' tirava via alla grossa, mancano
quelle piccole astuzie che avevano divertito e spaventato nel primo.
Ha l'antichissima struttura del gioco dell'oca, piatta e prevedibile, si gira
una carta si scopre la prossima avventura, con un mostraccione per passare al
livello successivo.
Errore o scelta, e' la struttura di un videogioco, un film e' un'altra cosa.

 Sono spiato! =8-O
e' la mia memoria di elefante
ne hai parlato due anni fa
N.

 ne hai parlato due anni fa
L'ho ordinato al pomodoro, e' l'unico item che non e' arrivato! :-(