Newsgroup: it.arti.cinema
Titolo: AAAHARRRGHHHH nel DVD di Suspiria.

Dopo 3 minuti c'č la protagonista che sale in taxi. C'č un lampo e nel vetro
tra l'autista e il passeggero appare il riflesso di una faccia orrendamente
urlante. Andate a vedervi il DVD e fatevela addosso come me.
--
Davide,,,,
Se puoi contare i tuoi soldi non
hai un miliardo di dollari.
                              (Paul Getty)

 urlante. Andate a vedervi il DVD e fatevela addosso come me.
sei matto!
ho ancora impresso il panico dell'amica di mia madre che venticinque anni fa
raccontava le scene di questo film...
da quel racconto non ho mai avuto il coraggio di vederlo
(vabbč ora che vado per i trenta potrei fare uno strappo)
--
Harry
"Un assassino?"
"Peggio: un attore !"


Adesso che hai detto dove e cosa succede difficilmente giungera' a
sorpresa!!!!!!!!!!!!
Grazie per avermi rovinato la scena.
Giuliano

urlante. Andate a vedervi il DVD e fatevela addosso come me.
Ma sul VHS non si vede?
--
Erfonsinghelberg
E' sicuramente un gran bel film, dato che a me non č piaciuto per
niente.
[Lory]

 ha scritto:
[cut]
Bello spoiler... sai me lo volevo pure prendere, dato che non l'avevo mai
visto ed aspettavo solo di trovarlo in offerta da qualche parte...
La prossima volta che scrivi quello che succede in un film, sei
*gentilmente* pregato di mettere il tag [SPOILER]!!! ;)
Grazie mille...
--
Marco C.

 Grazie per avermi rovinato la scena.
Non sono mona. E' un'immagine che NON si nota. E' solo un fotogramma
che non c'entra un cazzo col film, tipo un immagine subliminale. Io l'ho
notata solo perchè vedevo il film in un dvd portatile a 20 cm dalla faccia.
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 Ma sul VHS non si vede?
Inteso che sul DVD il fermo immagine è migliore.
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che non c'entra un cazzo col film, tipo un immagine subliminale.
Qualche fotogramma in più in una sequenza che di subliminale ha ben
poco: ma l'hai visto "Tre scapoli e un bebè"?
--
Massimo

 Grazie per avermi rovinato la scena.
Ma non dire stronzate coglione. Quel fotogramma è più che subliminale, ho
ricontrollato proprio ora e non sono riuscito a trovarlo. Se c'è per davvero
il Davide ha fatto una scoperta eccezionale, che fa riscrivere i libri di
storia. Davide, dimmi il minutaggio preciso.
--
"I nostri giovani autori preferiscono la commedia, è facile! Mentre un film
fantastico richiede molta volontà e grande forza d'animo". (Dario Argento)

 urlante. Andate a vedervi il DVD e fatevela addosso come me.
Se non erro la faccia urlante č dello stesso Argento. Almeno cosě mi pare di
ricordare, cmq appena ho un attimo mi riguardo la scena sul DVD.
WD

 wrote:
:
: Se non erro la faccia urlante è dello stesso Argento. Almeno così mi pare
di
: ricordare, cmq appena ho un attimo mi riguardo la scena sul DVD.
:
: WD
:
   ricordavo la faccia urlante e per rivederla alla fine ho rivisto tutto il
film, sempre bello nonostante l'errore di missaggio audio del dvd italiano.
Volevo sapere se tale errore e' presente anche nella traccia italiana nella
versione Anchor Bay.
Mi riferisco al silenzio della strega dal minuto 1.29.15 in poi (non
riferito dalla recensione di AF "Anche l'audio ha subito un'attenta opera di
restauro" ?!?)
Leo

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miiiii!!! quella si che è una storia pesaaaante....ma sarà vero? io ho
sentito voci che dicono che i produttori del film hanno negato e che
soprattutto l'abbia notato la mamma del bimbo che era andata al cinema per
vedere casa sua sul grande schermo...sarà vero??
comunque se ci pensi e vedi il film è agghiacciante!!!
ginuz.

 ginuz.
--
2/12/72
=========================
...una volta ero schizzofrenica...
...ma ora...stiamo bene...!!
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...cioe'...cioe'...????
In una scena del film girata in interni, per alcuni istanti appare
accanto ad una finestra una "presenza" assolutamente avulsa dal
contesto del film che certo, non incute terrore, ma lascia comunque
peprlessi [!], e che a scanso di equivoci, nessuna esigenza di
sceneggiatura potrebbe giustificare. 
Qualche brivido, potrebbe invece suscitare la suggestiva spiegazione
che ricordo forně al tempo "Ciak", etichettando l'evento come
soprannaturale, in quanto pare il film sia stato girato in una casa
precedentemente appartenuta a coniugi che subirono la sventura della
perdita di un figlio, peraltro da loro riconosciuto in quella breve
sequenza durante la visione della pellicola in sala. 
--
Massimo

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news:laj8cu0maabpihnl2...@4ax.com...
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perche?!?!?

 urlante. Andate a vedervi il DVD e fatevela addosso come me.
L'ho visto!
E' la faccia ghignante di Dario Argento.
Che dire... sono stravolto e commosso, e a te Davide va tutta la mia
riconoscenza per aver spalancato questa nuova dimensione sul film (tra
l'altro quella è tra le sequenze più belle e immaginifiche, ammirata pure da
Carpenter).
Comunque vorrei sottolineare con che grande cura e maestria è effettuato
questo gioco di luci: quando il taxi viene inondato dal bagliore del lampo,
sull'estrema sinistra dello schermo panoramico compare per brevi istanti il
volto stravolto di Dario Argento, e non appena il bagliore sparisce appare
sull'estrema destra, con un perfetto gioco speculare, quello dell'incantata
e assorta Jessica Harper.
E' solo un secondo, ma è magia.
Una domanda a muybr: tu sapevi di questa chicca nascosta?
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posso puntualizzare? :)
pare che il bimbo si fosse ucciso accidentalmente durante una festa di
carnevale in cui si era vestito da cowboy con un fucile da caccia del
padre...e nel piano sequenza (quindi scena intera senza stacchi) in cui la
mamma di tom selleck va a trovarlo a casa i due passano davanti alla
finestra due volte, la distanza fra i due passaggi è brevissima perchè
parlano e passano davanti alla finestra parlando e poi si fermano un attimo
e poi cambiano direzione per andare a prendere la bambina e ripassano
davanti alla finestra. Durante il primo passaggio si vede un fucile piantato
per terra in verticale, all'inizio sembra un bastone, ma se si fa un bel
fermoimmagine si capisce chiaramente che si tratta di un fucile. Al secondo
passaggio c'è questo bambino piccolo, con un gilet alla cowboy, molto scuro,
come il fucile, con uno sguardo agghiacciante, dal basso in alto, tipo
imbronciato/incazzato che devo dire inquieta non poco se si pensa alla
storia...
I produttori hanno negato di aver inserito tale stranezza nel film,
ovviamente, neanche per motivi pubblicitari, anche perchè la cosa è stata
notata all'inizio solamente dalla madre del bambino, che andò al cinema in
terz'ultima visione dopo anni che il film era uscito nelle sale.
Non so cosa dire, però se vedete il film e ci pensate vengono i brividi
davvero! anche perchè io il film lo avevo già visto 2 o 3 volte senza mai
notare nulla, ed effettivamente lo noti solo se lo sai....poi quando lo vedi
sembra così impossibile non notarlo... bo?
:)
ginuz.

 sembra così impossibile non notarlo... bo?
Ho trovato i fermo immagine in internet, da brividi!
http://www.spiritycon.com/fantasmi/trescapoli/trescapoli.htm
ciao,
bax


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 non voglio assolutamente mettere in dubbio la scoperta del Tosi
Non so ancora perchè ho scritto "Tosi", pensavo ad altro sorry

 riscrivere i libri di storia.
Non ti pare di esagerare un tantino per un'immaginetta subliminale? :D
(...manco fosse stato il primo a introdurle...)
Ciao,
mAx
--
"Signori, la vostra storia e' una strada tortuosa!"

 ginuz.
ps....ma il xpost...??
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storia. Davide, dimmi il minutaggio preciso.
Complienti per la tua educazione!!!!!!!!!
Per prima cosa comportati da "essere" civile!!!
Rileggi la tua mail e vedrai che non si parla ne di fotogramma ne di
immagine subliminale, se vuoi dare un'informazione almeno riportala
correttamete e poi non ti incazzare se qualcuno interpreta male le tue
parole, la maleducazione comunque rimane e per quella temo proprio che
non ci siano fraintendimenti!!!
Giuliano

 particolare....
Comunque si diceva si trattasse di un sagomato di cartone pubblicitario
appoggiato per sbaglio dietro le tende e che tale scena, oltretutto, non fu
girata nella casa incriminata ma su un set di posa...
(poi si fa presto a infarcire la leggenda... fucili? dove? immagine che
compare e scompare in pochi istanti? quando? l'unica cosa che si nota e'
questa "figura" ferma).
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Vogliamo parlare anche delle quattro apparizioni di Tyler Darden (Brad Pitt)
in Fight Club prima che Fincher decida di renderlo visibile
definitivamente???


Parliamone.
--
Erfonsinghelberg
E' sicuramente un gran bel film, dato che a me non è piaciuto per
niente.
[Lory]

 definitivamente???
E vogliamo parlare di quell'amica di mio cuggino che alla fine di Fight Club
se ne uscì con una frase stile "non so perché, ma ho una gran voglia di
gelato".
Sebastiano
--
POPPER HT-GROUP - #167 deI FeSTosi
Hämärä mäkärä kämisi mähässä.

gelato".
Grande Popper!
SNAFU

 gelato".
ROTFL
-- 
"You met me at a very strange time in my life."

 
E non l'hai mai portata a nessun raduno??????? :-)
-- 
Roberto "Dreams"
IHHC - Member of HT Group

 gelato".
stocazzo!!!
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Grazie mille...
Secondo me non è uno spoiler, quello che ha indicato non è mica come
quel particolare di Profondo Rosso (che adesso OVVIAMENTE non dico
perchè rovinerebbe il film) che ti svela tutto il mistero, questa è
solo una segnalazione di un particolare trovato nella visione.

 solo una segnalazione di un particolare trovato nella visione.
vorrei far notare, en passant, che c'e` in giro una VHS di Profondo
Rosso (ce l'ho io, sfortunatamente) in cui in copertina si vede
allegramente ritratta...
SPOILER
Clara Calamai mentre la catenella incastrata nell'ascensore le sega la
gola. Ma si puo` essere piu` deficienti?
-- 
perche' dai miei trent'anni
ti aspettavi un uomo col senso del dovere.

 E' la faccia ghignante di Dario Argento.
Uffa, sono stufo, ho rivisto sessanta volte la sequenza e niente. Mi
date 'sto cavolo di minutaggio/secondaggio preciso, accidentavvoi? Che
inquadratura? Su Jessica Harper o sul tassista? A destra o a sinistra o
in mezzo?

 Comunque si diceva si trattasse di un sagomato di cartone pubblicitario
E' un cartone sagomato, nel fermo si vede benissimo. La casa dei tre scapoli
è
piena di cose del genere e non deve stupire la presenza di quella sagoma.
oco dopo o prima c'è un bastone in mezzo alla stanza che potrebbe sembrare
un fucile.
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 Per prima cosa comportati da "essere" civile!!!
Guarda che del coglione te lo ha dato il Kaplan non io.
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 non voglio assolutamente mettere in dubbio la scoperta del Tosi
COOOOOOOOOOOOOMEEEEEEEEEE TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSIIIIIIIIIIIIII?!?!?!?!?!?
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 riconoscenza per aver spalancato questa nuova dimensione sul film
Non proccuparti baby, ti sdebiterai al momento opportuno.
Giuro che appena l'ho visto o pensato KAPLAN! Anche perchè
ho comprato il DVD solo grazie alla tua favolosa rece di pochi giorni fa.
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 Grazie mille...
Come vedi non ti ho rovinato niente.
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 in mezzo?
Inquadratura sul tassista (sempre se non errro) il riflesso č nel vetro di
separazione
tra l'autista e il passeggero durante un lampo. Impossibile non trovarlo.
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http://www.spiritycon.com/fantasmi/trescapoli/trescapoli.htm
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 >
Io ne ho vista una solo quando Ed Norton è dal medico e parla con lui in
corsia (che mia miglie mi ha dato del pazzo), quando sono le altre
apparizioni please?
ciao Matteo

 tra l'autista e il passeggero durante un lampo. Impossibile non trovarlo.
Vero, sul bavero del tassista, a sinistra dell'inquadratura. Si vede in
realta' solo la bocca spalancata, gli occhi no. Fico. :-)
Chissa' se nel DVD di "Gli Intoccabili" di De Palma e' rimasta la steady
riflessa nella finestra di Sean Connery oppure se l'hanno ritoccata via.

 di sagome dello stesso bambino di cartone.
Grazie di aver svelato l'arcano. A dir la verita' mi hai fatto venire
in mente che questo argomento appassiono' per un po' di tempo qualche
anno fa' anche il newsgroup delle leggende metropolitane e la
conclusione fu la stessa.
ciao,
bax

 piena di cose del genere e non deve stupire la presenza di quella sagoma.
Infatti tutta questa cosa del fantasma e' una ormai notissima cretinata.
Avevo da qualche parte tutta la spiega ma l'ho buttata via.

terz'ultima visione dopo anni che il film era uscito nelle sale.
Da come avevo letto o sentito da qualche parte, il tutto era stato
causato da una sagoma di cartone raffigurante uno dei tre "scapoli",
utilizzata per non so quali riprese, che era stata lasciata
accidentalmente dietro una tenda.
Forse addirittura avevano aggiunto che quella scena non era neache
stata girata nella casa, ma in uno studio.
Qui c'e' una spiegazione
http://www.urbanlegends.com/movies/3_men_and_a_baby_ghost.html
Matteo

 Parliamone.
Appare anche un pene (cazzo) verso la fine. Col DVD non si riesce a fare
il fermo immagine esattamente su questi fotogrammi, come se fossero in
mezzo a due immagini. Voi ci riuscite?
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 mezzo a due immagini. Voi ci riuscite?
Io veramente si'. Che edizione hai, che se e' la stessa appena ho tempo ti
do il minutaggio esatto?
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gola. Ma si puo` essere piu` deficienti?
SPOILER
SPOLER
In effetti quell' immagine è inflazionatissima e si vede veramente
troppo spesso!

 accidentalmente dietro una tenda.
mmmm...se vedi la scena sembra tutto tranne che la sagoma di uno dei tre
scapoli...
ve la consiglio perchè è da pelle d'oca...
ginuz.

 do il minutaggio esatto?
E lo confessi così? ;)
Ricordo mia madre che mi disse dalla cucina:
"Seba, che guardi?"
 E io: "Fight Club"
"Mi sembra un po' violento"
"Si mamma, lo è, è vm 18".
"Per la violenza? Addirittura 18, ma che diavolo di film guardi? Ma perché
addirittura 18?"
E io, oramai irato per le interruzioni, mi posizionai sul fotogramma
malefico
(era una delle mie ennesime visioni) e le dissi:
"Per questo".
"Eeek!". Più o meno era questo il suono che uscì dalla cucina.
Si vedeva bene, un pisello anamorfico.
Sebastiano.
--
POPPER HT-GROUP - #167 deI FeSTosi
O beautiful for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,

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Io ci riesco col VHS.........


SE lo hai fatto veramente sei un grande


Quella che tu hai visto è al min. 6.02 del 1° capitolo.
Se hai il DVD sono tutt'e quattro nel primo capitolo,m quando edward norton
spiega la sua condizione di consumista insonne. Quella che tu hai visto è la
seconda. La prima si vede quando il protagonista spiega cosa si sente ad
essere insonni, e si vede precisamente tra i movimenti fatti da una
fotocopiatrice (min. 3.55).
La terza ritratta Brad Pitt abbracciato al coordinatore del gruppo di
autosostegno per gli uomini con il cancro ai testicoli, precisamente quando
il coordinatore è in piedi ed invita tutti a liberarsi (min. 7.14).
La quarta appare dopo che edward norton incontra Marla e lei è inquadrate
mentre va via (min.12.05)
Ciao

 do il minutaggio esatto?
Devo avere un problema col lettore DVD. Ho la super limited sticazzi edition
zona 1 e non riesco a fermarmi sul pisello. Proverň con un altro lettore.


Bastardo.
,,,,

 Vogliamo parlare anche delle quattro apparizioni di Tyler Darden
Durden.

mezzo a due immagini. Voi ci riuscite?
Penso dipenda dal player, perche' con il mio ci sono riuscito senza
problemi, andando avanti fotogramma per fotogramma.
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