Newsgroup: it.arti.musica.rock.progressive
Titolo: Indonesia, un pò di nomi...part 1

Non ho molta voglia di buttar giù una retrospettiva completa, per due
motivi principali:
1) i dischi degli anni 70 in cd praticamente non esistono
2) il supporto fonografico per eccellenza del prog post 80 è la
CASSETTA...
Tra le cose disponibili su cd: (su GEMM principalmente, poi do il
riferimento) o scaricabili da qualche blog pirata vale assolutamente
la pena sentire:
ABBHAMA BAND (solo scaricabile)
http://www.angelfire.com/rock/indonesia/abbhama.html
Non sono un clone di EL&P anche se non certo simili ai Latte e Miele
come spara sto pirla qui:
"IIt's an interesting album with a Latte e Miele and such kind of
typical 70's style"
ANANE
Questo con molta fatica si trova ma non è un gran che IMO anche se qui
lo descrivono entusiasticamente:
Anane : The evolution ethnic / Slebar Slebor (2005)*****
This is one of the best examples I heard ever from musicians who feel
the essence of traditional music and perform it as if it is, but also
exactly like, a kind of progressive jazzrock, with mostly new,modern
electric and a few old acoustic instruments. This blend is so
incredibly complete, with a great amount of amazing rhythms. This
sounds like a kind of Canterbury jazzrock based upon Indonesian
ethno-folk. The folk are mostly from Gayonese origin. There is a great
amount of ideas and instruments which are mixed perfectly, and with
some distance in colours from each chosen instruments. This perfect
mix with an intelligent choice of complexity alone already makes the
album a must for folkrock, jazz & progressive rock lovers ! This isn’t
just a dialogue, but a perfect blend between these genres. 
Slightly different is "Perueren" which has some great flamenco guitar
and waltz theme to it, but also this is mentioned as a local song !?
The group consist of 7 members, with two additional talents. 
It is a bit puzzling how to see fit the bonus track, which a remix of
one of the tracks with club beats. This is however done with a certain
playful and humorousness, and cleverness, I'm sure this will not only
satisfy some extra people from different interests and approaches and
expectations. It is another great additional inclusion as a fine
conclusion to the CD.
The album was nominated at AMI (anugerah Musik Indonesia) Awards 2005.
A must have.
ARIESTA BIRAWA 
Si trova facilmente ma niente di imperdibile.
While Indonesia was for long time one of the so many countries
neglected in the collector’s market, mostly from ignorance and from
not even trying to look for information, luckily just recently the
highly recommended Guruh Gipsy saw the first LP reissue (on the same
label, limited to 450, so be quick!!), but also this relatively
unknown item saw the light of day. Mostly just a handful of the
existing interesting items from far away countries see the light of
day in Hans Pokoras books, and it seems that such books are one of the
first sources to make people curious to such items. In the 4001
edition this rare album was listed.  
In Indonesia, once a Dutch colony, it took quite a long time before
the LP’s that were published since the ‘60s were more than mostly pop
orientated with huge local music references.  Not many LP’s contained
more than a few good more independent rock tracks. It took also a
while, like anywhere else in the world, before the poprock style
became also influenced by more heavy/hard guitar rock. It is in that
phase of musical change that Ariesta Birawa expresses themselves, and
this, with great luck, is done with a certain enjoyable consistency
with some variations between a sweet poprock style and slightly more
eavy inspirations and explorations with some improvisations of
organ/flute/guitars, all within relatively short tracks. While
especially the first track ("Si Ompong”) the vocals combined with
slightly exotic percussion are reminding me of the Brazilian Os
Mutantes, the electric guitars and organ there are more influenced by
heavy blues tingled rock, with its room for some improvisation. The
vocals often are slightly mellow, in a gentle, enjoyable way, and
always with a 60’s psychpop flavour. This can be combined with
pleasant and rather happy pop rhythms, while the gentle flute, organ,
electric guitars and smoothly accompanying drums keep the melodious
rock aspect continuous as well. Most of these tracks could be an
example of expressions of bands from many places in the world from
that period. There’s even one English (self-penned) song (“Will never
Die”), and one rock’n roll track, “Terimalah Cintaku” which still has
a heavy bluesrock improvisation also has gentle flute here and there.
The way in which the songs are sung, in Indonesian language, is
expressed in a similar way to many other languages and should not put
off foreign listeners at all, because they sound very recognisable and
highly melodic with the music. A fine and really enjoyable album.
CHRISYE : CHRISYE & JOCKIE SURJOPRAJOGO "JURANG PEMISAH" 1977 
Rintracciabile con estrema difficoltà ma uno dei must-have
Un magico incontro tra il bassista/cantante dei Guruh Gipsy e il
batterista dei God Bless
E' diventato successivamente una star con una sequenza di ciofeche che
farebbero invidia a Tiziano Ferro......
DISCUS
Vabbè questi li conosce persino Lorici.....
GIANT STEPS 
Di costoro per ora non si trova nulla sotto i 400 Euro ma si mormora
che dovrebbero essere ristampati.
Sono 5 (o SEI, è controverso, io ne ho solo 4) eccellenti dischi di
prog derivativo dai grandi britannici ma il primo GIANT ON THE MOVE è
assolutamente da ascoltare, è disponibile sui blog
GOD BLESS
Altro gruppo storico, il primo album è del 75 ed è facilmente
rintracciabile su CD.
Attenzione!! ci sono parti COPIATE da Selling England quindi per i
poveretti come voi che spendono sorridendo 50 e più euro per andare a
vedere i Musical Merd è assolutamente un MUST.
Il loro album migliore è il secondo CERMIN, purtroppo disponibile solo
su cassetta, questo si personale e IMO splendido.
I master sono andati perduti in un alluvione altrimento l'avrei
rifatto per Mellow.
Dal terzo album in poi si stufano di copiare Yes e Genesis e si danno
alla rilettura di Zeppelin e Van Halen. Evitate.....
GONG 2000
Un mucchio di cassette, alcuni brani prog buoni in un mare di banale
hard rock.
Se trovate qualche compilation su cd in giro potrebbe essere
un'alternativa valida al comprare libri da una certa libreria
bolognese......
GURUH GIPSY
Questo è un capolavoro pochi cazzi, merita di stare tra i primi 50 
dischi prog di sempre.
http://www.angelfire.com/rock/indonesia/guruh.html
Their sound was mixture between the traditinal Balinese music and the
progressive rock featuring some keyboards. Especially, "INDONESIAN
MAHAMADDEKA",the first song of the Album ,is very amazing .the first
part is the typical progressive rock sound like ELP
Back in the mid-70s, Guruh Gypsy got the idea to mix keyboard-based
prog rock(keys, guitar, bass, drums) with a Balinese
orchestra(including choir), and a western-styled orchestra. Not only
did the experiment work then, but it is now influencing younger
Indonesian bands, like Discus, today. The original LP features two
longs tracks(12 and 15-minutes), and 4 shorter tracks(2, 6, 7, and
8-minutes). The 15-minute track starts off in a grandiose, prog-epic,
sort of way. Obvious influences include ELP and Yes, as your ears get
treated with hammond organ riffs, smooth Moog synth, Energetic
Palmer-like drumming, and melodic changes galore. After the guitarist
comes in, things dramatically start to change. As the band begins to
settle down on a theme, the Balinese orchestra comes in with gongs,
and tuned-percussion. By this time, you know you're in for something
unique and different, and I won't give the ending away. After that
epic, the musicians decide to give the ELP/Yes prog style a rest in
favor of something mellower(a lament). This track combines Indonesian
Gamelan percussion, with a western symphonic sound that flirts with
Asian melodies. What strikes me about this group, at this point, is
their eerie, haunting, and mysterious sound. The fourth track is
another standout composition that needs mentioning. "Jager 1897 Saka"
mixes traditional Indonesian/Balinese melodies(which could be compared
to Vietnamese Opera to give you some idea) with a western orchestra.
The tonalities, orchestral colors, and vocals are 100% Asian, yet the
tension build-up and release is similar to Yes's "And You and I". 
Purtroppo ristampato solo su vinile al momento, l'originale è solo su
cassetta
HARRY ROESLI AND HIS GANG 
Anche qui non si trova assolutamente nulla su CD.
Ma vale la pena ascoltare qualcosa dai blog, 
Another successful attempt of the 70's prog scene at mixing Indonesian
ethnic music, i.e. Sundanese calung, with progressive elements. Some
Gentle Giant influences appeared here and there. They released Titik
Api in 1976. Harry Roesli was famous for his musical experimentation. 
Harry Roesli and His Gang was also a famous prog/ rock band in the
70's. I felt he's more original than Deep Purple, although he often
'cut and paste' famous prog tunes. 
"Titik Api was released in Indonesia on cassettes only, around the
same time as Guruh Gypsy's self-titled and was similarly experimenting
on blending Indonesian traditional music (Sundanese, Javanese, and
Balinese) with western rock idiom. However, unlike Guruh who started
from pop/rock background, Harry Roesli started from contemporary
music, sometimes folk-ish music, with lyrics criticizing the
Indonesian government under Suharto at that time as shown by his many
albums. "Titik Api" generally consists of some folk pieces
interspersed with the longer experimental ones and is unusually
neutral lyrically
IMANISSIMO
Ottima band post 2000, CD reperibili. (il primo è un CDR)
Molte influenze dei settanta ed anche moderne con un chitarrista che
magna pane, floyd e porcupine tree.
Nonostante questo l'album è buono e da avere.
IN MEMORIAM
Altra band post 2000 che piacerebbe a Peppe....
It is a long time ago since I listened to this kind of style of Gothic
metal with a heavenly female vocalist. It is released by the
Indonesian progressive society but only has a few attempts to be
really progressive, mostly only attempting certain symphonic metal
arrangements instead. "Kokain" and "Versus" might have some ideas in a
progressive direction, but most of  the album does not add much
outside the gothic-metal, neo-prog and new neo-symphonic metal
interest fields. The 13 minute long last track, "Overture" is the best
attempt with symphonic arrangements, progressive touches, some jazz
and cafe jazz and a kind of gaudy Gothic-symphonic music, which is
worked out technically, but still leaves me with a rather empty
musical and spiritual feeling.
KRAKATAU 
Moltissimi album, ma siamo in ambito benporath, ovvero jazz
contaminato da musica locale.
http://www.krakatau.net/
--
Mauro Moroni
http://www.myspace.com/mellowrecordsmusic

 Purtroppo ristampato solo su vinile al momento
Tu dici?
http://piero.tistory.com/entry/Guruh-Gipsy-Guruh-Gipsy-인도네시아-1975


http://piero.tistory.com/entry/Guruh-Gipsy-Guruh-Gipsy-?????-1975
Sicuramente, se lo sarà fatto per i cazzi suoi o sarà un bootleg.
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 Sicuramente, se lo sarà fatto per i cazzi suoi o sarà un bootleg.
Propendo per la seconda ipotesi altrimenti che senso hanno i codici a
barre?
E adesso l'amico ascolano si metterà alla caccia...

E adesso l'amico ascolano si metterà alla caccia...
No no lui compra solo originali da un paio d'anni.
Schifa i ladri persin peggio di me.
Stamattina ho lasciato un paio di stipendi qui, una delizia di lista.
http://members.aol.com/taromiyasugi/catalog1.htm
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