Newsgroup: it.politica.internazionale.israele
Titolo: Due spine nel fianco in meno?

Ma'ariv dice che il Presidente del Pakistan Musharraf ha incontrato Shimon
Peres a Davos, e gli ha promesso di venire a visitare Gerusalemme non appena
si saranno normalizzate le relazioni tra Pakistan ed Israele.
Ha-Aretz dal canto suo dice che ieri il Presidente della Siria Bashar Assad
si č fatto intervistare da un giornale londinese di lingua araba dicendo che
č disposto a trattare con l'attuale governo d'Israele - ritrattando cosě una
precedente presa di posizione.
A questo punto uno non ha che da rimpiangere che i colloqui con la Libia
siano saltati.
Ciao.
http://www.maarivintl.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=article&articleID=1676
Musharraf eager to visit Israel
Pakistan President meets Peres at Davos. Pledges to visit Israel once
relations between the countries are normalized.
By Menachem Gentz
The Davos Conference was the site of a rare and unusual meeting yesterday.
Pervez Musharraf, President of the world's sole Muslim nuclear power, held a
long conversation with opposition leader, MK Shimon Peres, and even shook
his hand.
The historic meeting resulted from a random encounter between the two
figures. Musharraf recognized Peres among the hundreds of guests at the
hotel's main lobby, approached him, and warmly shook his hand. Peres was the
one to initiate the conversation, saying: "Mr. President, there are so many
rumors about the relations being formed between our countries".
Musharraf smiled heartily and confirmed the message. "We are undertaking
great efforts for this to happen", he said, but added: "You hold the
responsibility to move forward with the Palestinians".
Peres' tone change, as he sent a clear message: "My friend, an efficient and
positive peace currently prevails in the Middle East, and we will continue
to act in order to reach a deal with the Palestinians. But we need a strong
leadership to fight terrorism, so we can change things and bring peace and
stability".
At the end of the conversation, Peres invited Musharraf to visit Israel,
with the Pakistani president replying: "Inshallah" (God willing) as the two
parted warmly. Musharraf then turned to answer Maariv's question about his
intention to accept Peres' invitation, saying that once relations between
the two countries are normalized, he will be glad to visit Israel.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/386282.html
Assad says peace can be reached with current Israeli gov't
 
By Itim News Service
 
 
 
Syrian President Bashar Assad told the London-based Arabic daily A-Sharq
Al-Awsat on Thursday that he was not convinced that attaining peace with
Jerusalem required internal political changes in Israel, and said peace
negotiations between the two nations could start while Prime Minister Ariel
Sharon was still in power.
 
 
 
 
"The Europeans tell us they don't think Sharon will attain peace, but to us
it does not matter who [rules], and we don't think that internal changes in
Israel are a prerequisite for us to return our lands," Assad told the
newspaper.
In the past several weeks, Assad has publicly stated on several occasions
that he was interested in renewing peace talks with Israel.
"Our goal is to reach a peace based on principles set forth at the Madrid
peace conference and during previous negotiations," Assad said. Conflicting
statements coming out of Israel regarding Assad's offer to renew talks, the
Syrian leaders was quoted as saying, were either meant to disrupt the
initiative or showed that the offer had caught the Israeli leadership off
guard.
With regard to Israeli and American demands that terror groups operating out
of Damascus be banished, Assad said that he "clarified [to U.S. Secretary of
State Colin Powell] that [the terror groups] did not break any Syrian laws
and did nothing to justify a banishment." According to Assad, Powell agreed
with him. Assad was also quoted as saying that Hamas and Islamic Jihad had
both closed their Damascus offices voluntarily.
When asked about the possibility of an American invasion of Syria, Assad
said he hoped it would not happen, accusing the United States of a
pro-Israel stance. He hinted that the Israeli air raid in October on Ain
al-Saheb, a purported terror training camp northwest of Damascus, may have
been executed on behalf of the U.S.
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La domanda e': il mutamento attuale (ancora in embrione...) puo' o non
puo' essere addebitato in gran parte all'intervento americano in Iraq?
La domanda mi viene osservando i precedenti interventi nell'area da parte
degli USA: 
Beirut - rapito capo CIA di Beirut, torturato ed ucciso. Nessuna reazione
Beirut - kamikaze contro i Marines a guardia dei campi di Sabra e Chatila:
muoiono 241 Marines. Nessuna reazione, gli Americani sbaraccano dopo poco.
Somalia - 18 americani vengono uccisi in un combattimento a Mogadishu. Gli
Americani sbaraccano dopo poco.
Iraq - WG1: gli americani possono arrivare a Baghdad e non lo fanno.
Yemen - kamikaze contro lo USS Cole: 17 morti. Nessuna reazione.
Sono azioni citate anche nelle lettere autentiche di Bin Laden (pre 11
settembre...) e viste da quel lato danno l'idea che gli Arabi si siano
convinti che gli USA se intervengono non lo fanno convinti ed alla prime
perdite serie mollano la presa e vanno.
Le cose, ora, appaiono diverse al punto che i governi circostanti si sono
convinti che, stavolta, nonostante le perdite gli USA andranno fino in
fondo e che e' meglio normalizzare la situazione e non fornire pretesti
ulteriori una volta che gli USA avranno finito con l'Iraq?
Se cosi fosse, si spiegherebbero le timide aperture Iraniane, l'apparente
ricerca di dialogo di Assad e della Libia: normalizzare l'area significa
anche accettare Israele e intrattenerci normali relazioni diplomatiche ed
economiche.
Normalizzare l'area significa, per Israele, trovare una maniera per
tirarsi fuori dal pantano palestinese...
Vedremo...
GK.