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Titolo: (lungo) vorrei averlo scitto io...

When you push a Macster hard in a PC/Mac argument, you'll find that the real 
reason why they love Macs are the intangibles. They talk about MacOS (any 
MacOS) as being better, though they're hard-pressed to tell you why and 
eventually they get downright mystically intense about it.
The key word in the last sentence is intense. It's not that we PCers think 
Macsters have a few screws loose because they personally prefer MacOS, or 
even think it's somewhat better. We only start sizing Macsters for the 
tinfoil hats and straitjackets when they describe the Mac experience as 
being near, at, or beyond orgasm.
After that, PCers are left not only not persuaded that they're dealing with 
elite machines and owners, but thinking instead that they've spoken to 
someone a couple short of a six-pack (or in this case, perhaps case of 
chablis). We just can't conceive of an operating system being something to 
get orgasmic about. To us, it would be like getting turned on by a ladder.
However, just because people go apparently overboard describing their 
feelings doesn't mean there may not be something real there for at least 
some. If Grandma uses and dislikes her PC, I'm sure she'd be thrilled to get 
orgasmic from a Mac, but I'm sure she'll settle for a slightly less 
delightful experience, or even one merely less painful. The question 
becomes, will the average Grandma get even that, or will this just be a 
different set of headaches?
(P.S. Should any reading this over the course of time ever has a Grandma (or 
Grandma-like person) who ends up with a Mac, I'd like a report on her/his 
reaction: good, bad or indifferent.)
This reliance on subjective reality must bother many Macsters, because they 
keep trying to prove that Macs are tangibly better in those areas where 
PCers claim an advantage. So a price comparion like the one in OSViews is 
hardly surprising.
So what ends up happening is that Macsters keep trying to attack the PCs 
strong points, and they keep getting killed. They keep charging up the same 
old hill, the same old machine gun keep gunning them down, and they never 
learn.
For instance, after a recent column, I got this email from a Macster:
(His comments are in italics, my replies are plain-faced. For those 
wondering, my emails are usually rather nicer than this, but this guy needed 
some attitude adjustment)
I have read your "report" on how well this cMac is likely to do and I must 
say that you seem to have a "normal" level of understanding amongst your 
fellow PCers about anything Mac in thatyou know 3/5 ths of not much all and 
are willing to use analagies (sic) as if they were prozac to pensioners to 
cover an obvious need to 'display'
You don't say where I was wrong.
Do yourself a favour and talk to people in the mac dominated industries to 
find out why they prefer Macs
Pretty rare breed these days, publishing and that's about it, and in all 
honesty, a very sizable chunk of the real reason for it (as opposed to what 
they might say) is that the Mac way is what they're used to.
spend more than a couple of minutes fiddling and hours flogging a product 
while being free of bothersome facts and please do some research on the 
actual comparisons on performance before (opening your mouth and removing 
all doubt ). Most neutral graphic publications give accurate comparisons or 
try cross platform major programs
Well, you could look here 
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=101657&st=105&
 and see how a 
single PIV running at about 3Ghz handily beats even a DUAL G4 at 1.25 in 
PSBench 7, for openers, but such comparisons are superfluous. I would no 
more prove the obvious there than I would try to laboriously prove that a 
3Ghz PIV was faster than a 2GHz PIV. Nor is there any more rational reason 
for a Mac person to take offense at such a comparison than it would be for a 
2GHz PIV owner to be offended, after all, it is earlier technology.
You like analagies (sic)?
Well, I like RELEVANT ones. :)
Would you rather spend your time with a partner who who looks boring, is 
boring, can't move without other peoples advice, gets sick way too often 
(usually when you least need it), when they do get sick they forget who you 
are, what you do and where they put all the important stuff you left with 
them.
What does this have to do with performance? Nothing.
I have been using Macs and PC's for 16 years and have hardly lost any info 
or had any equipment fail on the mac's, the opposite of PC's
You're lucky, especially given that most of the working components in a Mac 
ARE PC parts and have been the last seven years or so. Only the CPU and 
motherboard are Mac specific.
Not to mention No Viruses (I have been getting on the net for 8 years)
Obscurity has some benefits. :)
As for PC bashing I'm glad just about all PCers do that to themselves very 
effectively.
In anticipation of your ongoing ignorance I won't delay much of my future 
waiting for a reply
If you want to believe a G4 1.25GHz is faster than a 2.8GHz or 3GHz PIV, 
well, there's a Flat Earth Society, too. They're entitled to their opinion, 
but not entitled to be taken seriously.
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You can see that when the author wasn't making his 
so-dense-with-condescension-that-it-drips assertion that PCers were swine 
incapable of appreciating or even comprehensing the Mac's (and therefore 
his) superiority, he was insulted by my assertion that a 1.25Ghz G4 was 
slower than a 3GHz PIV, which to me was about as insulting as saying that 
Bill Russell weighed less than Shaq.
You can also see that this is two ships passing in the night.
Not surprisingly, I have not heard back from him, but then again, that 
wasn't a discussion, that was a soliloquy.
This is a pretty typical Macster response; I've seen many just like it over 
the years. It's that experience that led me to recently try to explain the 
psychology of this, and I think I have it right, but maybe not all of the 
time.
It's hard to believe that all those people are that self-delusional. They 
can't all be that crazy, and even if they are, they seem a lot happier about 
it than anyone I know is with Windows.

 eventually they get downright mystically intense about it.
Non mi sembra una cosa di cui andare fieri...
Raffaele
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In che senso? Andare fieri di scrivere l'articolo, yes, dice esattamente 
le cose come stanno, se invece ti riferivi al fatto che i maczeloti 
puntano sull'intangibile e fanno considerazioni mistiche ecc come da te 
quotato, lě son d'accordo, non c'č nulla di che andar fieri.

 quotato, lì son d'accordo, non c'è nulla di che andar fieri.
LOL...dice le cose come stanno? Ma per favore...
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  > newbie ha scritto:
  >
  >> In che senso? Andare fieri di scrivere l'articolo, yes, dice 
esattamente
  >> le cose come stanno, se invece ti riferivi al fatto che i maczeloti
  >> puntano sull'intangibile e fanno considerazioni mistiche ecc come da te
  >> quotato, lě son d'accordo, non c'č nulla di che andar fieri.
  >
  > LOL...dice le cose come stanno? Ma per favore...
  se sai l'inglese, č cosě. Se non lo capisci, č un'altra cosa...

 quotato, lě son d'accordo, non c'č nulla di che andar fieri.
Ma quanti nick hai ? mah un'altro in k.f.
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Phate