Newsgroup: it.arti.ballo.lat-americano
Titolo: Echale Salsita needed

Does anyone know if the first recording of Echale Salsita by Septeto
Nacional De Ignacio Pineiro is available on CD?  If not, what is the
earliest version that is available?
I've been buying numerous CDs that contain the song, but there's
almost no documentation in any of them.
Thanks!
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 almost no documentation in any of them.
For example:
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006B15V/ref%3D/402-2015511-1089745
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 earliest version that is available?
Hello Don,
I'm not sure that the following album includes their FIRST recording of
"Echale Salsita"; anyway, chances are it does:
"Septeto Nacional de Ignacio Piñeiro
Septeto Nacional de Ignacio Piñeiro
1998 Egrem Records"
(at 
http://www.artistdirect.com/store/artist/album/0,,227130,00.html
 )
just read in the album review (by Stephen Cook, All Music Guide): "Piñeiro
began recording on his own in 1927, the early fruits of which are heard on
this fine Tumbao collection. Including 17 mostly original son, bolero,
rumba, and guaracha numbers, these 1928-1930 recordings offer a prime
glimpse into the golden era of Cuban music".
That's it: late 20's recordings! It should be early enough...
Ciao!
Ferr
("Los Enterados" - Genova)
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Gracie, Ferr.  Unfortunately, I tried ordering this title and the
Egrem CD with the matching catalog number contains a completely
different track list!  Most of the online catalog information about
Ignacio Piñeiro CDs (maybe all Cuban CDs, for all I know) seems to
contain *wildly* inaccurate data.
And my apologies, btw, for accidentally posting this to the Italian
language group.  Spiacente.
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 language group. Spiacente.
You're welcome! Hope you won't mind... (it's the usual chatter in
newsgroups). If you like talks about music you'll always find a friendly
keyboard and an answer.
Cheers
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 ("Los Enterados" - Genova)
I haven't tried that CD yet because the photo appeared to be a recent
one and because I questioned whether a 1928-1933 recording was likely
to be 4:21 in length.  It's possible, though, so I might give it a
try.
Incidentally, all of the versions of "Echale Salsita" listed at
Descarga seem to have either a 3:50 or a 4:20 timing.  I suspect that
the 3:50 version was done for Seeco in the 1950s or early 1960s (no
proof), but I don't know about the other one.  (Oh, there's also a
two-minute version on Rhino's "Mambo Mania" ompilation, and I think
someone posted that that one comes from 1958.)
I may give up on the original version and settle for one of these
1950s recordings.  What I'm mainly trying to do here is find some of
the recordings that "inspired" Ry Cooder and Manuel Galban as they
made their recent "Mambo Sinuendo" disc, and they've said that they
were trying to pay homage to the popular Cuban music of the 1950s. 
It's just that the originals of some of these songs go back a lot
further.
I'm big on putting together my own "originals" compilations!
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http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006B15V/ref%3D/402-2015511-1089745
This looks like a good collection of songs!  Do you think this is the
1928 (1933?) recording, though, or could it be one of the more common
recent recordings by the Septeto Nacional?
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Perhaps, I found what you need.
Try this link:
http://milonga.co.uk/cuba/tumbao/tumbao1.html
The page is poor, and no many informations are avaliable, but ALL CD covers
images seem to be "old"...
On this page I found the CD "IGNACIO PIÑEIRO and his SEPTETO NACIONAL"
(1928-1930).
The CD content is not avaliabile for browsing, but the date and the "old
fashoned" cover image make me sure enough to find the first recording of
"Echale Salsita" on it.
The page is very long and near all the traditional Cuban Music is avaliabile
(Wonderfull!).
To quickly find your CD, when you are on that page, use your browser option
"Find (on This Page)" avaibile from the "Edit" menù (Internet Explorer 5 or
later), and look for the string TCD-019, regardless of the case.
I understood that the price should be about 10 english pounds and many way
of buying are accepted.
For Infomations you can find the "Terms and Conditions" and other links just
at the bottom of that very long page.
I hope I have been helpful.
Bye,
JO "Sabor" Rinaldi
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