Newsgroup: it.comp.hardware.cpu
Titolo: A tutti quelli che scelgono AMD

Mi sono accorto di una cosa molto strana che vorrei sottoporvi:
amd con il k7 introdurrà uno slot denominato A che sarà compatibile con gli
Alpha giusto?
intel andrà avanti con lo slot 2 e lo slot M giusto?
in che modo potrà AMD rivaleggiare con Intel se lo slot (A) che andrà a
condividere con Alpha
appartiene a Digital?
sembra una domanda stupida ma dovete sapere che Digital è stata acquistata
da Intel, difatti oggi
l'antitrust americana a dato il suo permesso!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cosa ne pensate mica fessi quelli della Intel!!!
Fatemi sapere le vostre opinioni
By By Max

BY by Max
Solo la divisione semiconduttori e' stata data ad intel tanto che su merced
girera' tranquillamente Digital Unix.
Scusate ma di che slot parlate ?
Probabilmente lo slot alpha non ha niente a che vedere con il Chip ALPHA.
L' avete mai visto un chip Alpha ? Non sta mica in uno slot e' in uno
zoccolo come un Pentium Pro ( per modo di dire ) anche se il dissipatore sta
in una mano ben aperta!
Marco

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Scusa ma io sapevo che digital era stata acquistata da compaq pochi
mesi or sono ( marzo ) per la fantastica cifra di 9,6 miliardi di
dollari . Ora non so ma quanto ha pagato di piu' a compaq la intel
perche' gli vendesse la digital partendo dal presupposto che compaq ha
nel frattempo aperto la propria tecnologia a digital ? . La cosa mi
sembra abbastanza assurda. Non dico che non sia vera ma mi sembra
tanto un rumour di borsa tanto per far crescere le azioni di intel che
da quando ha perso l' ammistratore delegato hanno perso parecchi
dollari . Ciao max


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dollari . Ciao max
E' vera!
prima di essere comperata da compaq , digital aveva ceduto varie divisioni
 microprocessori-> intel , printer -> genicom, networking -> cabletron ) .
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alpha.
che intel abbia copiato molti brevetti da digital e' ormai risaputo ma
continuo a dubitare dell'esistenza dello slot alpha.
Cosa ci andra' in tale slot? un Cartridge come il PII o una Scheda con tanto
di zoccoletto ?
ALPHA non e' un Cartridge e' un chippettone a tutti gli effetti, lo sai si'
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contrario
Vediamo se con il comunicato stampa vi si chiariscono i concetti:
Marco
----OOOOO-----
Press Release
DIGITAL And INTEL Complete Sale Of DIGITAL Semiconductor Manufactoring
Operations
SANTA CLARA, Calif./MAYNARD, Mass., May 18, 1998 - Digital Equipment
Corporation today announced that the sale of its semiconductor manufacturing
operations to Intel Corporation has been completed.
The transaction, which closed over the past weekend, includes the transfer
of the
assets of Digital's semiconductor manufacturing operations in Hudson, Mass.,
along with
design and marketing facilities in Austin, Texas, and Jerusalem, Israel, to
Intel for about
$625 million after taking into account closing adjustments. Approximately
1,800 Digital
employees became Intel employees at the closing.
Intel will serve as a foundry for multiple generations of Digital's 64-bit
Alpha
microprocessors while Digital retains the Alpha technology and Alpha-related
semiconductor design teams to develop future generations of the
microprocessor.
In addition, the companies will file documents dismissing previously filed
lawsuits in Massachusetts, California and Oregon.
As part of the settlement, Digital and Intel also have entered into a
cross-license
of patents. In addition, Digital is working with Intel to port its Digital
UNIX operating
system to run systems using Intel's future 64-bit microprocessors. Digital
also will work
with Intel and Microsoft to establish a common programming environment for
64-bit
Windows NT applications for Alpha and IA 64 platforms.

Lo Slot A (questo il nome provvisorio) e' "meccanicamente" compatibile con
lo Slot 1 ma e' "elettricamente" compatibile con le specifiche Digital,da
questo segue
velocita' di circa 333 Mhz fra CPU e chipset
possibilita di multiprocessing
possibilita' di passare dal K7 al 21164(ovviamente in versione cartridge)
con un semplice aggiornamento di BIOS
e molto altro
Francesco "seroton" Pennelli
a...@wowmail.com

 Intel terrà il piede in due scarpe!!!
Dal sito 
www.news.com
 seguiamo l'evoluzione della vicenda.
		By Reuters
                 Special to CNET 
NEWS.COM
                 September 2, 1997, 2:35 p.m. PT 
                 SEOUL--South Korea's Samsung
                 Electronics said it has begun producing
                 Alpha microprocessors developed in an
                 alliance with Digital Equipment. 
                 Samsung plans to expand production to
                 1,000,000 in 1999 from 4,000 this year and
                 110,000 next year, it said. 
	[...]
		By Brooke Crothers
                 Staff Writer, CNET 
NEWS.COM
                 October 30, 1997, 11:25 a.m. PT 
                 Samsung Electronics has developed what
                 may be the fastest chip in the world, a
------->	 700-MHz Alpha processor, based on
                 technology from Digital Equipment. 
                 Alpha chips shipping from Digital currently
                 run as fast 600 MHz, though Digital is
                 expected to ratchet up the clock speed of its
                 own Alpha chips in the coming months.
                 Samsung licenses Digital’s Alpha processor
                 technology. 
	[...]
                 Intel recently agreed to acquire the Digital
                 semiconductor plant that makes the Alpha
                 chips and to cooperate with Digital in the
                 development of next-generation computers
                 based on the forthcoming 64-bit Intel
------->         "Merced" processor. Intel will also fabricate
                 future Alpha processors for Digital. 
                 The Samsung chip is made on an advanced
                 .25-micron production process, a
                 state-of-the-art production technology now
                 being adopted by many chip makers. The
                 64-bit chip has a whopping 15 million
                 transistors. 
	[...]
------->	 Samsung licenses Alpha 
                 By Reuters
                 Special to CNET 
NEWS.COM
                 February 9, 1998, 8:50 a.m. PT 
                 MAYNARD, Massachusetts--Digital
                 Equipment (DEC) today said it has
                 expanded its relationship with Samsung
                 Electronics by granting it an architectural
                 license to its Alpha chip, which grants
                 access to all Alpha intellectual property,
                 patents, and future implementations.
                 Samsung will create a subsidiary dedicated
                 to the marketing and sales of the high
                 performance Alpha chips. Digital will work
                 closely with the subsidiary and provide
                 marketing and technical support.
                 Financial terms were not disclosed.
                 This will allow Samsung to make its own
                 versions of the Alpha processor for specific
------->         markets. Digital will manage the architectural
                 process to ensure architectural consistency,
                 and will continue to develop future Alpha
                 designs.
                 "Samsung already has developed very fast
                 versions of the 21164 and 21264 Alpha
                 microprocessors through current
                 implementation licenses with Digital," said
                 Daeje Chin, chief executive of Samsung's
                 System LSI Division. "We now have access
                 to Digital's future-generation Alpha designs
                 as well as the freedom to build successive
                 generations of cutting-edge Alpha products
                 to serve a broader customer base."
                 In 1996, Digital and Samsung agreed to
                 develop and support a high-volume market
                 for products based on Digital's Alpha
                 architecture.
	[...]
                 By Stephanie Miles
                 Staff Writer, CNET 
NEWS.COM
                 April 6, 1998, 1:20 p.m. PT 
                 Samsung introduced a new line of Alpha
                 processors and also new low-cost Windows
                 NT server hardware based on the chip.
                 Samsung today claimed that its Alpha chips
                 will deliver "twice the performance" of some
                 500-MHz Alpha processors. Digital
                 Equipment had previously said that the Alpha
                 chip will break the 1,000 MHz barrier by
	         2000. The South Korean semiconductor
                 company licenses the Alpha technology from
                 Digital for use in high-end computers.
------->         The fate of the Alpha has been up in the air
                 since Intel acquired Digital's chipmaking
                 plants last year. Under the terms of that deal,
                 Intel agreed to continue to manufacture Alpha
                 chips, in return for Digital's support of Intel's
                 own 64-bit Merced chip.
                 Compaq’s planned buyout of Digital may
                 also affect the fate of Alpha since Compaq is
                 the largest user of Intel chips. 
                 Samsung's Alpha 21264 chip technology is
                 designed for high-end visual and enterprise
                 (or business use) computing architectures.
                 The 21264 supports real-time
                 video-conferencing and DVD playback and
                 recording, obviating the need for additional
------->         chips. The 21264 is also "slot" compatible
------->         with the K7 processor from AMD, Samsung
------->         said. This means that AMD's K7 will, to
------->         some degree, be interchangeable with the
------->         Alpha processor.