Newsgroup: it.comp.hardware.cpu
Titolo: K62 on Windows 98

Hi,
Hi I am about to put together a new computer for myself, and this time I
have decided on an AMD K62 (either 300 or 350 - not too sure yet) and a
computer dealer has told me that the K62 does not like windows 98 and plays
up.
Is this true?
Has anyone found any trouble running Win98 on a K6-2?
I will also be running Linux on it and I have been told this will be no
problem.
Thanks,
Nick

, "Nick Wiseman" 
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Tell your computer dealer to get a new job--he's obviously not suited
for the one he has.
I have an AMD K6-2 300, running Win98, and have not had a SINGLE
problem in the 4 1/2 months I've had this computer. I also never had
any problems with Win95 on my old computer [ P133 ]. The secret to
a happy windows is always do a clean install--scan and defrag regularly--
and if you want a REALLY happy windows occasionally format and 
re-install. :-) There is NOTHING inherent in the AMD that would cause
problems with Win98.
I love my AMD. [ the 300 is easily o/c'd to 350 if your into that ].
Hope that helps. :-)
Jim Clarke
Vancouver

foamy wrote:
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    I'd have to agree with Jim here.  I run the K6-2 350 with Win98.  I tried to
quickly install 98 over 95 the first time and it was a nightmare!!  With a clean
install and the VIA IRQ update I am trouble free.  I suspect your dealer can't
make the profit he would like off the AMD chips so is trying to guide you
elsewhere ... cash cow Intel Cel anyone?
But that's just my opinion!!
Typhon

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I am running a K6-2 333mhz chip on a Tyan Trinity mainboard. I had
problems with my first install, but the system runs fine now.
Points to help you.
1. Stay away from motherboards using the ALI chipsets, especially if
you plan on using the AGP port.
2. Do a fresh install of Windows 98 after installing the motherboard.
This will prevent a lot of problems.
3.Preferably get a motherboard with the VIA MVP3 chipset. This is
optimized for the K6-2 Cpus.
4. Use the motherboard drivers from the Win98 CD, not the one's that
come with the motherboard.

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Nick ...
We have sold a load of K6 and K6-2 systems with Win98. The dealer you were
talking to either is uninformed or was acting is his, not your, best
interest.
G Jensen

Nick,
It will load without any problems. There has been cases of incompatibilty
though, which you can get patches for on the amd web site.
you shouldn't have any problems to start witht though just remember if you are
using an upgrade for 98 to load it in it's own directory unless you are wiping
your harddrives first. 98 does screw up lots when upgraded to otherwise.
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>Is this true?
I have a K6-2 with the ALI ALLADIN V motherboard and 95 MB  of 100 Mhz Dram.
System is great and I couldn't be happier.  And, if you are lucky you can
find some programs optimized for the k6-2.  Quake II runs better and faster
than a PII 400.  Never had a Win 98 problem.
John

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I have a similar setup and _had_ all kinds of problems until I set the
BIOS to it's minimal default setting (or whatever it's called). All the
problems seem to be gone, but It's a bit early to know for sure. It does
irk me that the same settings that worked fine in win95 (a and osr2)
caused so much trouble with win98.
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Hi Sam,
   What is BIOS? I am considering buying a K6-2 soon. It the BIOS setting
somewhere in the Prefs setting, like where you set the fonts and
resolution settings. Some people argue in favor of the Pentium II. I just
don't want to run into a lot of programs that don't like the K6-2
processor.
 
bi...@airmail.net
like K6-2.
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I am rather a newbie, but I chose a AMD K6 CPU for my custom built PC
because I have heard so much good about it.  I even think I heard that AMD
may soon outpace PII, but I don't know if this is just talk or not.  I have
an AMD K6-2 333, on an Asus P5A motherboard, 64 megs PC-100 RAM, ATX case,
(and a bunch of other stuff that is over my head!)  So far, it runs Win98
great.  I never even worried about how Win98 would run with an AMD CPU,
because more and more commercial ("Big Name") computer manufacturers are
offering it with their new Win98 systems.  It is so much cheaper, and from
what I can tell, and an excellent CPU.   I suspect that anyone who tried to
dissuade you from AMD has something else up their sleeve, or are
misinformed.  (When I was pricing out PCs, I went to one shop, and told the
earnest young man my computer preferences.  When I mentioned that I wanted
AMD, not Intel, his face lit up, and he gave me a "thumbs up".  Obviously he
felt the same way I did about it!)
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Yeah, me too. I can slap on a 9 dollar fan myself and pocket the extra
$$!
mikee.
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Here is for all of you AMD lowers out there:
I am a very big AMD fan myself, but I'm currently
using Celeron 300A and A-bit BH6.
Why?
Its pretty simple, Celeron 300A is actually produced by same process as
all other INTEL's processors (including PII450). Intels process is so good
that virtually all of the CPU's produced work at 450MHz or above.
Of course, Intel doesn't want to sell Celerons as 450MHz units since this
would
make PII sales drop to 0.
BUT you can overclock your Celeron 300A to 450MHz, just like hundreds (if
not hundreds of thousands) are doing just now.
If you overclock Celeron 300A to 450MHZ, you get a cpu that's even better
than
Pentium II 450 in many cases since its cache runs at full speed (PII runs
cache
at 1/2 of the CPU core speed).
And it has a very strong FPU, much better than AMD.
Since Celeron 300A is much cheaper than AMD's fastest processors, and AMD
is still far from 450MHz I cannot recommend it to anyone anymore.
Even 400MHz K6-2 with 3DNow! sucks dick against Celeron at 450MHz.
In price and in performance. And in Quake2.
You can even make Celerons work in Dual CPU boards, instructions are on the
net.
Try to do that with AMD.
This is all very sad and I wish it was different, but AMD is not looking
very good
at this moment. Its loosing low-end market due to Celeron rapidly. It never
had
much of the high-end market anyway.
Unless they produce K7 very fast, they could go back to losses.
And AMD allways fails to provide, it will probably be delayed.
Sorry, guys, that's the truth about AMD.
Still, thanks to AMD Intel had to come out with cheap alternative, Celeron.
Not to mention price drops.
AMD WAS a better alternative until Celeron A came out (with on-die cache).
I even ordered a couple for the company I work for (I had to fight against
our
hardware supplier) 6 months ago. I would only consider Inter now.
Bye
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All you say is true. Just pay attention to the type of Celeron 300A.
There are two type of Celeron 300A : one marked MALAY and other COSTARICA.
The first one is the right choice to overclock, the second one doesn't work.
When Intel found (maybe thay know this before) that many people used Celeron 300A
at 450MHz has modified the L2 cache so that doesn't work at higher frequency.
You can find the series of Celeron on the bottom of circuit.
the right series is SL2WM and SL32A (MALAY)
Best regards Alfredo

 at 450MHz has modified the L2 cache so that doesn't work at higher frequency.
... What are you saying about ?
(per il volgo: che c...o stai dicendo ?)
1. Costarica products (first digit = 0) are almost fully operable at 450 Mhz too,
varying the Vcore from 2.0 to 2.3, depending on different PCB revisions; I'm very
happy to confortably clock my Mendo @ 464 giving it only 2.0 V, from my Abit BH6.
2. No way to modify L2 Cache design to slow down processor or to make overclocking
more difficult: base die design and characteristcs should be structurally modified,
so the production process shoud be revised and costs would rise up, making the modify
an economic nonsense.
Ciao!
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"Pietro E. Teofilatto" wrote:
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And what are you talkin' about too ....
Just take a look at this link :
http://www.zetabyte.com/giki'sgold/celeron300a/Celeron%20Costarica%20300a.htm
You can see the tests made on the two different type of Mendocino 300A.
As you can see the Costarica model is more difficult to overclock. It's not words.Just the facts.
Best regards Alfredo

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