Newsgroup: it.sport.calcio.juventus
Titolo: Fiorentina vs. Juventus: Hatred and Commonplaces

 MAILTO: 
rven...@sysnet.it

Ciao Riccardo,
    Although I could go on at length to describe the many and serious wrongs
in yr post I will keep thing's short. To waste time replying to such a fool
would indeed be a crime.
    Firstly that you can take my 'natural hatred of Fiorentina' beyond the
context of football and take it to mean a declaration of 'personal' dislike,
even to the extent of wishing harm on another human being reveals to me that
you an individual not especially blessed with any great interpretative
talents. Either that, or as I strongly believe, you have wilfully
misinterpreted my view so as create an opportunity to propound your own
highly dubious, and thinly veiled racist ideas.
    Secondly, that you attack someone for a light hearted attack on the
Florentines for being narrow-minded and that you use the tragic deaths of 39
people, caused admittedly by 'animals', to incite racial hatred towards the
entire English people is unforgivable. As a supported of Sheffield Wednesday
(Hillsborough) I know all too well about tragedy in football and that you
could use such a terrible occasion (Heysel) in this way is beyond belief.
    Thirdly your post in Swedish was unfortunately wasted, though I suspect
the real reason behind this was a fallacious attempt to claim some
intellectual support for a seriously flawed argument from an entirely
irrelevant source. i.e. Your ability to communicate in 18 languages can
offer no support of your hateful views.
    Finally, despite my deep hurt and offence at your views I hope I have
got you wrong, taken you out of context and totally missed the point. I t
saddens me deeply to think that someone could seriously accuse me of any ill
feeling to any other human, mush less wish any harm upon them.
    Yours sincerely
    Richard Healey
P.S. FORZA JUVE!!!!!!!!!!

 MAILTO: 
rven...@sysnet.it

Dear Riccardo,
    Hello. Well, it seems that neither one of is is the ogre either first
imagined. It made me very happy to read your post. It seems that as well as
being quite intelligent you also have a sense of humour. It has certainly
lifted the cloud of gloom I have been carrying around for the past few days.
    I think that maybe I have also learned something too, which is always a
good thing. I had always believed that football gave us a safe environment
in which to express such negative emotions as hatred and nationalism in a
harmless way. In hindsight I can see that this view is probably qute naive.
These feelings are usually strong and don't stay confined to either words or
the football stadium. Perhaps I should be more careful with how I use words
like 'hatred'. Mind you, I'm still not keen on la Viola, heh heh. I know
language matters, inded I believe that it shapes reality around us as well
as being bounded by it. So I suppose it follows that what we say matters,
perhaps as much as waht we do. Anyway, you've probably spotted the reambling
of an entirely average philosophy graduate. I won't go on.
    I would like to apologise for accusing you of being a racist. I know
that this would have been unpleasant for you as this was a false accusation.
One has to be vigilant with this sort of thing, there are many apparently
intelligent thugs.
    Okay, ciao
    Richard
p.s. good luck for the 19th Dec, I think you'll need it!!!