Newsgroup: it.sport.calcio.juventus
Titolo: La Viola

Hello,
    As an English supporter of Juventus keeping up with news is difficult
enough but what is really hard is getting an understanding of the traditions
involved. For example, I myself seem to have a natural hatred of Fiorentina
(even to the point of wanting Arsenal to beat them), but can anyone tell me
anything about the history of this rivalry? It will be sad to see la Viola
relagated to Serie B, it is usually 6 easy points for Juve.
Ciao Forza Juve
richard

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Hello,
        as far as I know the thing started in 1981 or 1982 when we were
fighting for the scudetto with Fiorentina. We won that league but there were
controversies about referees and stuff like that and they said we had bought
it. There must be a more specific episode, but I don't remember it. Maybe
someone else knows it better.
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 someone else knows it better.
I think the episode was in the last round of that championship.
Both Fiorentina and Juventus played outside starting from the same amount of
points:
- Juventus won in Catanzaro (where i was :)) with a penalty scored by Liam
Brady due to an hand fault after a strike from Pietropaolo Virdis.
- Fiorentina drew its match, however another argentinian player (Bertoni
???) scored a goal but it was not validated.
So the story went, our penalty was really clear but the unvalidated goal
rose up Fiorentina suspects about the referee of its match.
Fonzie


Even if you live abroad, you seem to perfectly understand one of the
"pillars" of the intimate convictions of every Juventus fan: despise
Fiorentina and whatever has to do with them.
Actually, on our part, it's more an answer to their "inferiority complex"
towards Juventus than a feeling we developed ourselves.
It all dates back to an old Italian Championship (season 1981/82, I think),
when Juventus won the title after a year-long battle against the fucking
"viola" with a one-point lead at the end of the season.
Being their one and only opportunity to win the "scudetto" in the last 30+
years (and God knows for how many years to come), Fiorentina fans felt as
they had been deprived of something they deserved (far far far from reality,
of course).
As you can imagine (being Fiorentina NOT a top italian team whatsoever -
never has been, no way!!- don't let yourself be misled by yesterday's win
against Arsenal), we rather tend to see as our natural competitors
teams as Inter (even if they base their current reputation more
on tradition than on their recent triumphs - being they simply
non-existent), Milan A.C.,
and, for the most recent years, Lazio.
Yet, we can't help but respond to the relentless outbreak of hatred coming
from Florence: it's something THEY started (we had more important things to
think about), but it would have been extremely impolite on our part not to
show towards them the same feelings, don't you think so?
Besides, don't forget the innate nature of the florentine people: prone to
envy and sarcasm, with a tendency to consider themselves better than anyone
else (even if they have to admit that, with all good will, that's something
which could have sense during the Renaissance period, not now).
They have a special fondness for bickering and quarreling with strangers and
among themselves too. The old saying goes: "What do you get if you have 3
Florentines? 3 parties".
As you see, every time we get the 3 points from them, it' s a special
pleasure.
Stay well and FORZA JUVE!!

???) scored a goal but it was not validated.
The scorer was Francesco Graziani, an italian player.
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Go get laid......  Forza Fiorentina.
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Renditene conto e comincia a pensare VIOLA !!
Tutte le partite che ha vinto? Anche le amichevoli di agosto? Anche quando
venimmo a vincere 4-1 a Firenze (1995)? E pagando gli arbitri anche quando
non ce n'era bisogno?
E perché quel ragazzo dovrebbe pensare viola? Ma se non sa nemmeno dove
siete sulla carta geografica del calcio: Esistete anche voi? Benvenuti. Ah è
vero quest'anno giocate la CL, quella dei porci e dei cani? Suvvia quando
mai vi sareste sognati di parteciparci se non avessero permesso a mezza
serie A di giocarci? Noi non ci siamo e sono contento: preferisco entrarci
dalla porta principale e non spinti dentro dalla finestra come voi.
Infine se non siete capaci di vincere niente abbiate il pudore di non
infestare un NG di tifosi plurititolati.
Lo so che ti piacerebbe vincere un campionato con rigori fasulli e arbitri
comprati (come noi) ma ho paura che non siete buoni nemmeno in quelle.
Noi VINCIAMO SEMPRE fuori e dentro il campo.
AUGURONI

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comprati (come noi)
Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta
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 JUVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Strong all over the world!!!!!!!!
you're not asking a Fiorentina fan to speak correct English, are you? That
would mean you're totally out of your mind... :)))
...Go get laid ... I'd take it as a wish...

JUVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Strong all over the world!!!!!!!!
Bullshit!
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intelligenti pauca
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Bullshit!
asshole:)
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intelligenti pauca
Pauci per viam angustam, pauci per viam augustam.
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