Newsgroup: it.sport.calcio.juventus
Titolo: welcome from liverpool.

I apologise that this is in English, but i speak no Italian at all, and 
babel fish is a notoriously ineffective translation tool.
Hopefully some in here have a good command of English, and will be able 
to communicate the special welcome we are preparing for the your supporters.
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N148338050401-2251.htm
      Liverpool Football Club will honour the memory of the 39 victims of
Heysel with a number of commemorative gestures in the lead-up to Tuesday
night's Champions League tie with Juventus.
       This first meeting of the Reds and Juve since that tragic night in
Brussels 20 years ago is sure to be an emotive one for all concerned and
Liverpoolfc.tv can reveal that after consultation with supporters the
following has been arranged with the spirit of friendship and understanding
in mind...
       a.. A Friendship match between the Liverpool and Juventus fans that
will take place at the Academy on Tuesday kicking off at 1.30pm.
       a.. A Kop Mosaic featuring the word Amicizia (friendship) 
alongside a
Liver Bird and the respective club colours. This will be displayed in
conjunction with a one minute silence prior to kick-off on Tuesday.
       a.. Every visiting fan will receive a free four-page brochure in
Italian aimed at promoting friendship and understanding between the
supporters. The front cover will carry the club crests and words of 
welcome.
Inside there'll be a personal message to the Juve fans from Ian Rush and 
the
split image picture showing him in Liverpool and Juventus kits. On the back
will be the words for: We Are Sorry. You'll Never Walk Alone.
       a.. Every visiting fan will also receive special wristband in red,
white and black with the inscription friendship in both Italian/English.
       a.. Commemorative Juve/Liverpool FC scarves and t-shirts are being
produced.
       a.. The matchday programme is also to be completely re-designed to
pick up on the friendship theme. The cover will carry the hand of 
friendship
logo used on the scarf. The teams will be removed from the back page and
replaced by an image of the Memoria e Amacizia banner (see below).
       a.. A banner carrying the themed In Memoria e Amicizia (In Memory and
       Friendship) message will be carried by fans from the Kop to the Juve
end prior to kick-off. Phil Neal, Liverpool captain at Heysel in 1985, will
help perform this ceremony. The banner will carry the Christian names of 
the
39 Heysel victims and the symbolic union of the Liverpool Liver Bird and 
the
Juve Zebra.
       The Memoria e Amacizia banner was first was first seen at Anfield
prior to the Liverpool v Blackburn match in May 1995 (on the 10th
anniversary of Heysel) and more recently paraded in front of the Kop during
half-time at the derby to a warm round of applause.
       The original inspiration for the banner was two Liverpool youth
workers, the late Janet Murphy from The Marybone centre, and the late Alf
Langley, a founder member of the Football Arts Initiative, who took a youth
group to Turin in a non-football related exchange of friendship in the
summer of 1989.
       It was created to commemorate the tenth anniversary by Peter Carney
and fellow members of the FAI, a Merseyside organisation that came together
with the Sport Against Racism group in the wake of Hillsborough, and had
already been on their own bridge building mission to Turin with the 
blessing
of Liverpool Football Club in 1990.
       At the time a lot of people in this city just wanted to reach out 
and
genuinely do what they could to renew friendships, said Peter, an Anfield
season-ticket holder and founder member of the Hillsborough Justice
campaign.
       It's the same sentiment now. Liverpool Football Club just want to
extend a warm welcome to Juventus fans, offer their hand in friendship and
recognise the hurt.

 and recognise the hurt.
I hope it will only be a great sport evening, to begin a new era.
-- 
Saluti, Kap - 
http://www.lordkap.it
 - ICQ 19857429
TFC #001 - BAG #003 - BAT #003 - Immor(t)ale #002 - KKC #00
What is man but that lofty spirit - that sense of enterprise.
Captain Kirk - Star Trek TOS

 I hope it will only be a great sport evening, to begin a new era.
Ma il nick "dope man" non sembra una presa x i fondelli?

Ma il nick "dope man" non sembra una presa x i fondelli?
può essere, ma il link portava ad una pagina realmente esistente... boh
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 Ma il nick "dope man" non sembra una presa x i fondelli?
infatti lo č.
Carolina72 
====================  commento del moderatore  ====================
Ha scritto migliaia di post con quel nick sui gruppi del Liverpool. S'e' organizzato per tempo per prenderci per i fondelli eh...  kus

babel fish is a notoriously ineffective translation tool.
Just in some words: are you kidding us?
-- 
Salva con nome
Roma, Italia
MENO TRE ALLA TERZA STELLA!

 organizzato per tempo per prenderci per i fondelli >eh...  kus
Quoto. Conoscevo già quel nick e quell'utente. 

 supporters.
You're an idiot. It's by far a too kind definition for someone joking about 
a tragedy of this magnitude.
I hope not to have to see you around here again.
trad.: Sei un idiota. E' una definizione perfino troppo gentile per qualcuno 
che scherza su una tragedia di queste proporzioni.
Spero di non doverti più vedere da ste parti. 

 supporters.
ROTFL!

 supporters.
I hope you aren't going to read these replies.
you have handed a really nice message of friendship and peace.
inconceivably stupid people here thought you were teasing us.
don't mind to them and shake our hands in friendship, and we can hope 
that wins the best.
per gli italiani:
cattiva stupiditą non informarsi prima di sparare giudizi.
allo sportivissimo post su uk.sport.football.clubs.liverpool 
http://snipurl.com/dsvi
 rispondeva che approvava tutto..
e lo avete accolto a pesci in faccia, complimenti.
-- 
ciao
Vittorix 

 You're an idiot.
ora chiedigli scusa
-- 
ciao
Vittorix 

 I apologise 
apologise???? Bastava un vocabolario e saresti stato un pò
più credibile...;-)

 you have handed a really nice message of friendship and peace.
E secondo te, uno che scrive "for THE your supporters" č un inglese
DOC? Svegliaaaaaaaa.

 per gli italiani:
ci ha preso per il culo alla stragrande. 

 più credibile...;-)
E cosa avrebbe di sbagliato "apologise"?

 infatti lo č.
A parte la cantonata che hai preso, magari č un fan di Jay-z...

 DOC?
Sě, e scrive da un provider di Winchester. A quanto pare per te č stato
troppo amichevole:
	Explanation:  'The' used to talk about someone's body or family member
The definite article can be used instead of a possessive determiner (e.g.
'your') to talk about someone's body or family member. This has an informal
and familiar effect - in other words, to be used only with friends. For
example,
You look as if you had a late night. How's the head? ('your' is possible)
How's the wife? ('your' is possible)
http://www.edict.com.hk/vlc/errorcorrection/articlesEx.htm

 Spero di non doverti più vedere da ste parti.
Potresti fare un riassunto del messaggio per renderci edotti del punto
esatto dove lui stesse scherzando? O magari non l'hai letto?

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it seems pedantry exists all over europe.
i congratulate you on your supreme condescension.
dope man

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i have read them.
whilst it is upsetting, it isn't entirely surprising to see the hand of 
friendship spurned.
the wounds of heysel still run deep after 20 years, so it is 
understandable that there is still hostility towards the people of 
liverpool and the club's supporters.
however, i would like to let it be known that i attended that game in 
1985 when i was 13 years old, a mere child.  So to mock and discredit me 
  personally is as ridiculous as it is unwarranted.
i was also in attendance at hillsborough in 1989 when 96 liverpool fans 
were crushed to death due a decrepit stadium, inadequate policing and 
ignorant arrangements made by the footballing authorities - sounds 
familiar?.  16 years later, I am still angry and bitter about this - so 
whilst i can empathise with the way sections of the juve support may 
feel, i am just saddened that some of this vitriol is directed at me.
dope man

 E cosa avrebbe di sbagliato "apologise"?
Semplicemente che si scrive "apologiZe" e non "apologise",
magari sbaglio....
====================  commento del moderatore  ====================
Appunto. Si può scrivere in entrambi i modi. - Kap

 Svegliaaaaaaaa.
Tu continua a dormire, invece, che è meglio.
-- 
Saluti, Kap - 
http://www.lordkap.it
 - ICQ 19857429
TFC #001 - BAG #003 - BAT #003 - Immor(t)ale #002 - KKC #00
Se non sopporti il caldo, scappa dalla cucina. - Harry S. Truman

 ci ha preso per il culo alla stragrande.
Tu, invece, non ci hai capito una sega, magari. Chi può dirlo.
-- 
Saluti, Kap - 
http://www.lordkap.it
 - ICQ 19857429
TFC #001 - BAG #003 - BAT #003 - Immor(t)ale #002 - KKC #00
Calvo come son calve le nude cime delle montagne, con una calvizie
colma di maestà. - Arnold Matthew

 Bastava un vocabolario e saresti stato un pò più credibile...;-)
UN altro che ha capito tutto della vita.
-- 
Saluti, Kap - 
http://www.lordkap.it
 - ICQ 19857429
TFC #001 - BAG #003 - BAT #003 - Immor(t)ale #002 - KKC #00
L'arte di essere felice pur essendo poveri si riassume tutta in una
frase: potrebbe andar peggio. - Li Li Weng

 infatti lo č.
[Bombolo Mode On]
'tacci vostra, nun ce sto a capě piů niente tsk tsk
[Bombolo Mode Off]
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 DOC? Svegliaaaaaaaa.
Io, stai facendo una figura che neanche un De Cesari
-- 
ciao
Vittorix 

 vitriol is directed at me.
you're reasonable.
don't mind, we have our fools ;-)
-- 
ciao
Vittorix 

 
Pazienza...riconosco l'errore e non mi strappo certo
i capelli per una stronzata come questa! Vorrà dire
che da ora in poi, studierò meglio l'inglese...Ciao.

 i am just saddened that some of this vitriol is directed at me.
E qui ha ragione da vendere.
-- 
Immor(t)ale #025 - Virginia Reloaded
"Per sentire cosi' distintamente gli insulti dei giocatori 
della Fiorentina, Dondarini doveva avere l'orecchio di Beethoven"
[Aldo Biscardi]

 [Bombolo Mode Off]
rotfl
-- 
ciao
Vittorix 

 
Già, meno male che ci sei tu!

 Già, meno male che ci sei tu!
Almeno m'informo prima di sparare a zero su una persona perché non
conosco le cose.
-- 
Saluti, Kap - 
http://www.lordkap.it
 - ICQ 19857429
TFC #001 - BAG #003 - BAT #003 - Immor(t)ale #002 - KKC #00
Il mondo intellettuale si divide in due classi: da una parte i
dilettanti, dall'altra i pedanti. - Miguel de Unamuno

dope man
I must confess that I asked you whether you were kidding us after
having read (actually, misread) the comment that one of our mods put
in a message of this thread.
I was 20 in 1985 and I wasn't there just for a lucky combination that
set an examination on the day after the match. I can't (and I won't)
forget anything about that night, but I hope this match will be a new
start.
Thanks for your post.
-- 
Salva con nome
Roma, Italia
MENO TRE ALLA TERZA STELLA!

 liverpool and the club's supporters.
I don't think it has much to do with hostility towards Liverpool. As far as 
I can tell, none of the people who replied angrily to your post were at the 
Heysel. They just thought that you were some Italian anti-Juve fan posing as 
a Liverpool supporter to tease us.
As for your initiative, I think it's very welcome. Maybe you could have 
spared us the part on Ian Rush, who hasn't exactly left us many pleasant 
memories of his days as a Juve player :-)
Daniele

recognise the hurt.
Thank you for your message. See you tomorrow: I'll be at Anfield Road
:-)
--
Gobbo Globetrotter

 'tacci vostra, nun ce sto a capì più niente tsk tsk
Bastava fare una ricerchina coi gruppi di Google invece di sparare a 
caso.
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kusjes working on 
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co-mod di Iscj _ Op su #iscj
segretaria del DPPSJ *Del Piero Per Sempre Juventino*

 che da ora in poi, studierò meglio l'inglese...Ciao.
Dovresti andarci invece. Quello che studi a scuola non e' esattamente 
quello parlato. Come per tutte le lingue.
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 caso.
A parte il fatto di non averci capito nulla, mi dichiaro totalmente
estraneo
a questa vicenda.
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 estraneo a questa vicenda.
Alludevo a chi ha creato il casino dal nulla ;)
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USA = 'apologize'
UK = 'apologise' 
====================  commento del moderatore  ====================
Quote less text the next time, thanks.

 :-)
vai Gobbetrottler!
-- 
ciao
Vittorix 

 Alludevo a chi ha creato il casino dal nulla ;)
Avevo messo una faccina ma si è persa nei meandri di newsland :)
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Io *NON* guardo Controcampo. 

I hope it will only be a great sport evening, to begin a new era.
quoto e sottoscrivo.
:)
-- 
Wally West

 supporters.
Well done dope man.
And hello and welcome to Liverpool also.
Enjoy the football.
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