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Titolo: Un prete cattolico appoggia la presenza di Rael al Congresso degli Stati Uniti

E' apparso nel Los Angeles Times e riguarda l'invito fatto a Rael di
testimoniare davanti il Congresso degli Stati Uniti ...
è incredibile ...un vescovo cattolico appoggia la presenza di Rael a questa
udienza!
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E n j o y !
Note  incroyable: Un évèque  (bishop)  catholique appui  (supports)  la
présence de Rael à cette audience. ( hearing)
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/20010325/t000025866.html
House Sets the Stage for Debate on the Cloning of Humans
 Science: Panel expected to hear from leader of a group with a belief in
UFOs and a U.S. fertility specialist.
By AARON ZITNER, Times Staff Writer
     WASHINGTON--The leader of a religious group devoted to UFOs and an
American fertility specialist are scheduled to testify before a
congressional panel this week about their efforts to clone people, in what
is likely to be a step toward legislation banning the practice.
     No federal law bars human cloning, and some legal experts doubt that
the Food and Drug Administration has authority to regulate it, even though
the agency has claimed jurisdiction. A 1998 attempt by lawmakers to ban the
technique failed amid fighting between anti-abortion groups that oppose all
human cloning and medical researchers who say the technology could be used
to produce lifesaving organs and tissues for patients.
     The religious leader--a French former journalist known as Rael--has
claimed he has funding and a group of women willing to help him clone a
human being. His group, which is based in Canada, believes that mankind was
created by an advanced people from another planet and must also become
creators of life.
     The American scientist, Panos Michael Zavos of Lexington, Ky., says he
is working with an Italian fertility doctor to try to clone people who
cannot have children by other means.
     Cloning experts have questioned whether the two efforts are credible,
and they say any attempts at cloning people with current technology would
run a high risk of producing stillborn and deformed children. One scientific
organization said it opposes the idea of lawmakers giving Rael and Zavos a
high-profile platform to publicize their cloning claims.
     "I'm very concerned that they are just a huge anomaly, given that the
scientific community is not out to clone people," said Tim Leshan, director
of public policy at the American Society for Cell Biology. "This will just
be a circus atmosphere and make it seem like scientists are all out to do
things that are immoral."
     Rep. W. J. "Billy" Tauzin (R-La.), chairman of the House Energy and
Commerce Committee, said he had carefully considered whether to offer a
national stage to Rael and Zavos. He concluded that Rael had "a weird sort
of background" but that "maybe Americans ought to know that, without laws to
govern this, that's the kind of thing that's happening."
     Character Issue Cited
     The hearing is a likely first step toward a new attempt to ban human
cloning. Tauzin said there was broad support in Congress to move a bill this
year, though he wanted to withhold his own judgment until after the hearing,
scheduled Wednesday before the Energy and Commerce subcommittee on oversight
and investigations.
     "I won't kid you--I feel relatively strongly right now that there's a
problem with cloning a human being, and not just from a safety standpoint
but from a legal and ethical standpoint," Tauzin said.
     Cloning, he said, "may literally threaten the character of our human
nature. We are imperfect beings--all of us--and that requires us to develop
traits of forgiveness, understanding, love and character. How is all that
threatened when we produce perfect human beings? How would relations between
women and men change when men are no longer necessary to produce human
beings?"
     Tauzin said opponents of cloning could either pass legislation banning
the practice or direct the FDA to firm up its policies. He said the FDA's
current authority would likely allow it to ban cloning only on grounds that
it is unsafe for the children who would be born and the mothers who carry
them. The FDA has also said it could reject cloning proposals if the agency
determines that the scientists involved are unqualified.
     "That leaves open the question of whether the FDA would permit cloning
a human being if it was satisfied on the safety concerns," Tauzin said. "The
FDA may have no authority to ban it on moral and ethical grounds" and so it
might be forced to approve a cloning project if it found it to be safe.
     In the 1998 debate, patients' groups, including the American Heart
Assn. and the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation, successfully argued that a cloning
ban would also bar a potentially lifesaving technique called somatic cell
nuclear transfer, or therapeutic cloning.
     In cloning to produce children, a person's DNA would be put into a
human egg cell that has been stripped of its own DNA. The egg would be
induced to grow into an embryo, which would be transferred to a woman and
carried to term.
     In therapeutic cloning, doctors would also use a patient's DNA to
create an embryo. But instead of the embryo growing into a child, cells
would be grown as replacement tissues: new blood cells for leukemia
patients, brain cells for Alzheimer's patients, insulin-producing cells for
diabetics and the like.
     Because the cloned tissue would closely match a patient's genetic
makeup, the rejection problem common to organ and tissue transplantation
would be eliminated, doctors believe.
     Wide Backing in 1998
     There was broad support in Congress in 1998 to ban cloning to produce
children, but many lawmakers wanted to leave open the option of therapeutic
cloning.
     Anti-abortion groups, however, could not accept a bill that allowed the
creation of human embryos and then required them to be destroyed by
researchers.
     Richard Doerflinger, a spokesman for the National Conference of
Catholic Bishops, said he was not sure how a bill could be written that
avoided the dispute that sank the 1998 legislation.
     He defended the House panel's invitation to Rael and to his scientific
advisor, Brigitte Boisselier, a visiting assistant professor of chemistry at
Hamilton College in Clinton, N.Y.
     "I did chuckle when I heard they were going to testify, because they
are a fringe group. But they've been on '60 Minutes,' so I guess they're
part of the debate," Doerflinger said.
     According to the Raelian Movement Web site, journalist Claude Vorilhon
witnessed a UFO landing in central France on Dec. 13, 1973. An almond-eyed,
4-foot-tall alien emerged and said that his people had created mankind. The
extraterrestrial gave Vorilhon the name Rael and asked him to build an
"embassy" so that the two races could meet.
     Rael says he is trying to build a $20-million embassy near Jerusalem
and has raised $7 million for the project. His group claims 55,000 members.
     Rael and Boisselier are among 15 witnesses scheduled for the hearing.
Others include biologists who have cloned animals and ethicists who support
or oppose cloning to produce children.
saluti
<Gigi>
Rael nel sito:
http://www.rael.org

 <Gigi>
[......]
        Sia lodato Gesu' Cristo.
Samuele
--
"Nel frattempo, radunatesi migliaia di persone che si calpestavano a
vicenda, Gesu' comincio' a dire anzitutto ai discepoli "Guardatevi dal
lievito
dei farisei, che e' l'ipocrisia.
Non c'e' nulla di nascosto che non sara' svelato, ne' di segreto che non
sara'
conosciuto. Pertanto cio' che avrete detto nelle tenebre, sara' udito in
piena
luce; e cio' che avrete detto all'orecchio nelle stanze piu' interne, sara'
annunziato sui tetti"
(Luca, 12, 1-3)


Perche' ti sconvolge quanto accaduto ?
Io lo trovo invece geniale. C'e' in discussione la legge sulla clonazione e
io voglio che si giunga al divieto totale. Ho due problemi: primo spingere
dalla mia parte, secondo essere sicuro che la legge di divieto sia
legalmente inattaccabile. Cosa faccio ? Chiedo che venga ascoltato un gruppo
di storditi che appoggia la clonazione rifacendosi a extraterrestri,
esperimenti intergalattici e ogni altra idiozia. Di certo, tireranno acqua
al mio mulino. Poi , ottengo anche il secondo vantaggio perche' questi
storditi sono anche legalmente ben attrezzati, per cui la commissione puo'
capire come meglio scrivere la legge.
byez
lsd


Antonio, se leggessi l'articolo capiresti che la mossa e' invece astuta. Chi
meglio dei raeliani possono delegittimare la clonazione ? Chi meglio di loro
puo' metterne in mostra i pericoli ? Credi veramente che una commissione
legislativa formata da persone assennate possa farsi abbindolare da un
gruppo che si rifa algi extraterrestri e ad esperimenti gentici
intergalattici ?
Facendo un esempio di casa nostra: se volessi spingere verso un
provvedimento che metta fuorilegge il comunismo rivoluzionario, mi batterei
per l'audizione di Renato Curcio, con tutti i suoi deliri.
un saluto
lsd

al mio mulino. 
Dall'America mi dicono che le cose sono andate piu' o meno cosi'. Tra
l'altro Vorilhon (alias Rael), pur di farsi un po' di pubblicita', ci
e' cascato come un pollo. Proprio lui che sosteneva la necessita' di
introdurre la "geniocrazia".
:-))
Miguel Martinez
http://www.kelebekler.com

 ha scritto nel messaggio
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Com'era la storia che "la mamma degli imb...................."  ?
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byez
lsd