Newsgroup: it.sport.calcio.inter-fc
Titolo: Fanculo fanculo fanculo!!!

installo Emule, il kad non mi si connette, in più mi dice che se si usa un
router con firewall hai sempre un id basso, e che bisogna configurare un
IP statico, allora vado su connessioni di rete, assegno a un computer il
192.168.1.2 e all'altro il 192.168.1.3, ma smette di funzionare!!
Funziona solo con "assegna automaticamente IP".
Vado su 192.168.1.1 per configurare il router, MILIONI di pagine piene di
cose del CAZZO tipo DSN, mica DSN, dinamico, non dinamico, gateway
predefinito, subnet mask da figa, devi configurare una porta per usare
programmi come emule, MA QUALE CAZZO DI PORTA QUELLA DEL BAGNO O DELLA
CUCINA??? Il manuale Robotics NON DICE UNA MINCHIA, qui bisogna avere come
minimo un cazzo di diploma da perito tecnico per usare il router da figa,
il quale ha un firewall installato ma COL CAZZO CHE TI SPIEGA COME
CONFIGURARE LA PORTA PER FAR PASSARE EMULE.
E poi cosa cazzo è Port Triggering, cosa cazzo è Triggering "Outgoing
Ports" Open "Incoming Ports" cosa cazzo sono Protocol e cosa cazzo sono
Port Range From To, cosa cazzo è Virtual Server, cosa cazzo è DMZ Host,
cosa cazzo è Enable UPNP, cosa cazzo sono Source Address Mask, Destination
Address Mask, cosa cazzo è VPI/VCI, cosa cazzo è The DSL Gateway will
forward IP packets from the WAN that do not belong to any of the
applications configured in the Virtual Servers table to the DMZ host
computer Enter the computer's IP address and click "Apply" to activate the
DMZ host Clear the IP address field and click "Apply" to deactivate the
DMZ host.DMZ Host IP Address: cosa cazzo è
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-- 
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Fondatore club "El Condor pasa (la bala)" tess.#0
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Sir Biss ha scritto:
[CUT]
Ma non avevi anche un mac, e usalo zio bello, io il pc l'ho buttato nel 
cesso, mi faceva dannare, ma poi ho ripreso ad usare il mac ed è stato 
tutto più facile e senza intoppi.
PS
adesso arriva Noi Borg e mi molla un coppetto ;-)
-- 
A10

 Ma non avevi anche un mac
??
Mai avuto un Mac, a parte che costano troppo, ma soprattutto i programmi
che uso per lavoro non girano sul Mac.
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 adesso arriva Noi Borg e mi molla un coppetto ;-)
Non vedo come dargli torto
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In data 30/08/2005 Sir Biss e Gianni andarono all'Unieuro, gli cascò in
testa un frigorifero ma i medici erano ottimisti.
[CUT]
http://edonkey.sharereactor.it/emule.it-mirrors/guida_emule/firewallxp.html
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http://edonkey.sharereactor.it/emule.it-mirrors/guida_emule/firewallxp.html
Già letto
Ma il mio firewall windows è disabilitato.
Solo che c'è un cazzo di firewall nel router e non riesco a capire come
disabilitarlo e/o regolarlo, perché nel manuale ci sono le schermate, ma
non ci sono nel 192.168.1.1, cazzooooOooooOooO!!!!  :-(
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 non ci sono nel 192.168.1.1, cazzooooOooooOooO!!!!  :-(
In realtà sul router dovresti soltanto aprire le porte specifiche in
entrata ed uscita. Come fare dipende dallo specifico router, ma di solito
non è nella di trascendentale.
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 non è nella di trascendentale.
Ma io non ci capisco una
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 MINCHIA
Immagino, ma è sbattendoci la testa che si impara :-D
Comincia a cercare dove settare le porte da aprire.
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 Comincia a cercare dove settare le porte da aprire.
Ma non so nemmeno da che parte cominciare!
O per meglio dire: non so che cosa devo fare!
Sarebbe come mettere un netturbino in una centrale nucleare e dirgli
"comincia a cercare dove sono i reattori da attivare." E lui che fa?
Schiaccia qualche tasto a caso. E che succede? Ogni forma di vita in un
raggio di 300 km scompare per circa 10.000 anni, isotopo piů, isotopo meno.


 Comincia a cercare dove settare le porte da aprire.
Ma il primo cazzo di passo č: come faccio a dare un IP statico ai miei
computer sotto il router?
Assegnare uno ad minchiam tipo 192.168.1.X non funziona.
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 O per meglio dire: non so che cosa devo fare!
Tramite internet explorer andando all'indirizzo 
http://192.168.1.1
 (se non
ricordo male, controlla nel manuale del router) dovresti poter entrare
nelle schermate di configurazione del router (l'utenza di default non ho
idea quale sia per lo specifico router), dalle quali puoi aprire o chiudere
le porte del router.
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 Assegnare uno ad minchiam tipo 192.168.1.X non funziona.
L'importante è che i tuoi pc siano nella stessa rete e sottorete del
router. Se il tu0 router ha ad esempio ip 192.168.3.1 con subnet
255.255.255.0 ai pc basta dare 192.168.3.X con X qualsiasi da 2 a 254.
Prova a pingare il router tramite il comando "ping (ip del router)", ad
esempio ping 192.168.3.1
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 le porte del router.
Già fatto, ma ci sono 850 pagine e non si capisce una minchia! La pagina
delle porte l'ho trovata, ma le raddoppia tutte con nomi strani.
Inoltre non c'è nessun parametro per disabilitare il firewall da figa del
router.  :-(
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 Non vedo come dargli torto
Il mac non ha di queste menate, io non lo uso col firewall, niunso!
-- 
A10

 le porte del router.
Aiuto, non gli funzionerà più niente, ho visto farlo al tecnico nel mio 
lavoro, ho un firewall e ti giuro è un gran casino !
-- 
A10

 Prova a pingare
LOL, sei un mito trattorone
-- 
A10

 esempio ping 192.168.3.1
Guarda, l'unico pinga che conosco č quello del Treviso  :-(((
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> Tramite internet explorer andando all'indirizzo 
http://192.168.1.1
 (se non
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Io ci sbatto la testa giornalmente su queste cose, sono complicate ma con
un pò di calma ci si arriva. Se non ci provi nemmeno non arrivi a nulla
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 che uso per lavoro non girano sul Mac.
Ma adesso non sei al lavoro, no? Stai usando il laptop? Bene, vendilo e 
comprati un Mac Mini e vivrai felice.
PS
Il Mac Mini non costa un cazzo e va da favola !
-- 
A10

 un pò di calma ci si arriva. Se non ci provi nemmeno non arrivi a nulla
Non te lo volevo dire, ma il tecnico che è venuto da me è BBILANISTA ! ! !
Un po scarsino a dire il vero ;-)
-- 
A10

 Guarda, l'unico pinga che conosco è quello del Treviso  :-(((
start-->esegui-->cmd e premi "invio".
A questo punto lanci il comando "ping 192.168.1.1". Se ti risponde con una
schermata del tipo 
Risposta da 
192.168.1.1
: byte=32 durata=123ms TTL=24
Risposta da 
192.168.1.1
: byte=32 durata=63ms TTL=248
Risposta da 
192.168.1.1
: byte=32 durata=85ms TTL=248
Risposta da 
192.168.1.1
: byte=32 durata=61ms TTL=248
allora significa che il pc comunica con il router
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> Io ci sbatto la testa giornalmente su queste cose, sono complicate ma con
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E per forza: lavorano fino al 45°, poi danno il lavoro per fatto ;-)
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 gateway 192.168.1.1
Fallimento :-(
L'ho fatto, ma mi ha detto che l'indirizzo era già assegnato, allora ho
usato 192.168.1.3
Ma Internet ha smesso di funzionare :-(
poi ho tentato ping ma mi ha dato il solito messaggio, non è un progarmma
riconsciuto blablabla
Infine ho rimesso "assegna automaticamente IP" ed eccomi a riusare
internet  :-(
Io mi butto giù dal ponte  :-(((
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 E per forza: lavorano fino al 45°, poi danno il lavoro per fatto ;-)
AHAHAHAHA, a un certo punto aveva fatto saltare tutti i settaggi, 
abbiamo la rete interna divisa in due zone, ha dovuto risettare tutto da 
capo, č stato da noi piů di tre ore, non ne potevo piů
-- 
A10

 Io mi butto giù dal ponte  :-(((
Azz, avessi il router sottomano saprei cosa fare, da qui è abbastanza arduo


 Guarda, l'unico pinga che conosco è quello del Treviso  :-(((
ROTFL, non vorrai mica mettere pinga col trattorone, eh?
Sei in una botte di ferro, tra qualche minuto ti funziona tutto !
-- 
A10

 Azz, avessi il router sottomano saprei cosa fare, da qui è abbastanza arduo
Anch'io saprei cosa fare, il problema è che dopo non avrei più un router 
:-\
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 "comincia a cercare dove sono i reattori da attivare." E lui che fa?
Quello che mi piace di te è che non la fai mai tragica.

 Port Range From To, cosa cazzo è Virtual Server....
Cerco di aiutarti (se riesco), anche io mi ci sono rotto il culo a
configurare il mio cazzo di router però alla fine la soddisfazione di
vederlo funzionare è stata immensa ;)
Allora sei arrivato secondo me alla parolina magica ossia 'Virtual Server' è
li che devi aggiungere le porte tcp e udp per far funzionare correttamente
emule. Probabilmente quello che leggi quando guardi il router tramite
browser è simile a qualcosa del genere
http://www.hostfiles.org/files/20050831113431_virtualserver.jpg
 , dove ti ho
evidenziato le porte come le ho configurate io sia nel router che poi anche
dentro emule. In particolare devi aggiungere nel campo Port (from) : 4662
Port (to) : 4662 , Port Type : TCP, Host IP Address : il tuo IP (io come
vedi dallo screenshot ho 192.168.1.246) e poi clicchi sul pulsante 'Add this
setting' (o equivalente nel tuo router). Analogamente aggiungi Port (from) :
4672 Port (to) : 4672 , Port Type : UDP, Host IP Address : sempre il tuo IP.
Per fare tutto ciò però come vedi è necessario che il tuo IP sia statico e
non dinamico ossia assegnato dal router quindi sguinzagliati nelle voci del
router e deseleziona qualsiasi cosa relativa alla parola DHCP che è appunto
il servizio che assegna automaticamente gli indirizzi IP ai vari client
connessi. Poi come ti è stato detto assegnati un indizizzo statico (diverso
da quello del router) e come gateway l'ip del router. Così dovrebbe
funzionarti. Il condizionale è d'obbligo però :-|
ciao
Skyline

 funzionarti. Il condizionale è d'obbligo però :-|
Grazie Skyline!!
Ero già arrivato da solo (con enorme fatica) a una parte di quello che mi
hai scritto (le porte), e ora il muletto funziona.
Però... però resta irrisolta la faccenda, grave, degli IP statici che non
funzionano.
Altrove mi hanno consigliato di disabilitare il DHCP, come hai detto tu,
un altro invece mi ha detto di assegnarli un range di indirizzi diverso da
quello dei computer... bah... poi mi hanno detto che devo settare anche i
DNS nelle proprietà del TCP/IP... io però non so quali siano quelli di
Tiscali ADSL.
Biss
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 Tiscali ADSL.
Sono assegnati in automatico.
Che router hai?
Guarda qui:
http://assistenza.tiscali.it/adsl/guide_test/
Saluti
NB
-- 
25 Maggio  2005 -  We'll never ROTFL enough Club - Fondatore

 
http://assistenza.tiscali.it/adsl/guide_test/
eh, pare che ci sia il modem SureConnect di US Robotics, ma non il
router-modem :-(
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 router il DHCP.
Usa questi allora.
 
DNS primario 213.205.32.70
DNS secondario 213.205.36.70
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 Il mac non ha di queste menate, io non lo uso col firewall, niunso!
Io si e funziona tutto: 80/160KB/s :-P
-- 
me

 che uso per lavoro non girano sul Mac.
Tipo?
-- 
me

 Tiscali ADSL.
Già vero , che pirlozzo mi ero scordato di dirtelo che devi aggiungere DNS
Primario e secondario altrimenti non riesci a navigare su internet , ti ha
cmq risposto Noi Borg , vedi se con quelli ti funzia ;)
ciao
Skyline

 DNS secondario 213.205.36.70
YE YE YE FUNZA!!
YE YE YE FUNZA!!
YE YE YE FUNZA!!
FUNZA TUTTO!!  :-))
e non ho nemmeno dovuto disabilitare il DHCP!  :-)
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 FUNZA TUTTO!!  :-))
Ottimo.
Per 10 giorni stai tranquillo :-]
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 Per 10 giorni stai tranquillo :-]
LOL
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