Newsgroup: it.lavoro.professioni.webmaster
Titolo: Problema con Europa Club (aiuto!)

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LA MIA RISPOSTA:
Now stop please!
I have insert my url to your website the same day i submitted
www.italianpainters.it
, but if you want delete my url this is'nt a problem;
not write anymore.
Your way to make money is illegal in Italy and i think also in Germany; if
you continue to ask me money i will be forced to denounce you to the
competent authority and to the associations to defense of the consumer.
I'll ask to the appropriated newsgroup what do they think about your system,
i hope there is'nt anyone so stupid to give you money.
With best regards, The ItalianPainters Team

 privacy).
beh, quello "probabilmente" è un trackcode che lega la tua richiesta di
supporto tecnico (o risposta) al problema.
Evidentemente se lo cambi non riescono più a capire "in modo automatico" con
chi hanno a che fare e cestinano l'email.
Cambiano quel numero non risolvi alcun problema di privacy, a mio modesto
parere.
Il fatto che non trovino il link è probabilmente dovuto al fatto che la
ricerca viene fatta in modo automatico solo sulla pagina di cui hai fatto il
submit.
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 Il fatto che non trovino il link č probabilmente dovuto al fatto che la
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 > stating your Invoice-Number NLNL320016 to our following
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As far as I  know, they don't havve  any right to do this in this  way.
Everybody is warned not to  do  any business with  this club!!
Borg Groeneveld
www.boventonen.nl

Here some extra tips how  to behave towards europa-club:
Hello,
this  is the reaction; a short translation:
 "don''t react at all or tell them you don't know  who inscribed you
at europaclub (everyone who  knows about  your  web-site might have
done it).
Above that, there is no official agreement according to law. 
What Peter Kurz is  doing, is deceit and he is well known for  this in
Germany.
You can tell it Staatsanwalt Pforzheim,  where  they know him  very
well for this behaviour.
 NEVER PAY!!"
 Well, this must be a relief for  you as for me!
 Best Wishes,
 Borg Diem Groeneveld
 
original message:
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Lieber Diem,
entweder reagierst Du garnicht,
oder
soweit Du noch KEINE Mail an den Europa-club gesendest hast,
sagst Du, Du weisst nicht, wer die Einträge für Dich gemacht hat. Das
kann jeder, der über Deine Arbeit weiss, gemacht haben.
Ausserdem ist juristisch kein Vertrag zustande gekommen
(Rechtsauskunft meines Freundes).
Ausserdem ist seine (Peter Kurz) Vorgehensweise Betrug und Du zeigst
ihn bei der Staatsanwaltschaft Pforzheim an, wo er ausreichend bekannt
ist.
Auf keinen Fall zahlen!
Gruss!
Helmut
second message:
Hello,
this message might  be helpful as well for  you:
(in short: don't accept any  letter from this Peter Kurz you have to
pay
for, don't let any one else pay for  it, you will  never get it  back)
Hallo Diem,
mir ist noch eingefallen,
pass gut auf, dass niemand fuer Dich eine Nachnahmesendung bezahlt und
annimmt. Alle Personen in Deinem Umfeld (Familie, Nachbarschaft)
sollten
genau
wissen, wenn Du wirklich etwas bestellt hast. Offensichtlich kassiert
der
Typ aus
Pforzheim ueber diesen Weg, wobei es wohl unmoeglich ist, das geld
zurueck
zu
bekommen.
Helmut

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 Regards Europa-Club-Team
Rather interestingly, if you visit their add url page,
(
http://212.184.71.242:555/add_url_form.htm
) and if you use netscape
under Linux, you get this interesting message shown at the bottom:-
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<% ' Add a new email ' If (Request.QueryString("Zugabeform")="Submit")
Then ' Create a connection to the CD database
dbPath = "j:\www\pornogold\email.mdb" Set DatabaseConnection =
Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
DatabaseConnection.Open "PROVIDER=MICROSOFT.JET.OLEDB.4.0;DATA
SOURCE=" & dbPath Useremail = CStr
(Request.QueryString("email")) SQLStatement = "INSERT INTO email" _ &
"(Email) " _ & "SELECT '" & Useremail & "' As
Email;" DatabaseConnection.Execute (SQLStatement) %> <% End If %>
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Now, me not being a guru on these things ;-) but that sure looks like
any email address you put on the add_url form gets put straight into a
CD email database (in a directory named PORNOGOLD) I bet you can't see
that in their 'terms and conditions'
That's nice isn't it. -NOT
Regards,
Fartypants.