Newsgroup: it.hobby.hi-fi.car
Titolo: US PIONEER CarAudio In Europe : FM Receiving?

   Hello,
As a consequence of the "Global Market", I'm planning to purchase a PIONEER
CAR CD/TUNER from the USA. It's the PIONEER DEH P7000R (
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/car/deh-p7000r.htm
 ) and it isn't a
currently available model in EUROPE (I live in ITALY). The TUNER section of
the US-based PIONEER's is called "SuperTuner", while the EURO PIONEER's have
the "ARC5" (excellent). Both feature the RDS. What I'm wondering is : Can a
US-BASED PIONEER receive the EUROPEAN RADIO STATIONS? I'm not asking about
RDS compatibility, but pure FM receiving. Here in ITALY we have thousands of
stations and I think an incorrect tuner's sensitivity can result in an
impossible radio receiving...
Please, help me to solve this doubt!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP,
Gianluca ITALY - EUROPE
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The radios are similar, but the tuners are different and the freq offsets are
different.
Conversion is an expensive proposition if you can find someone smart enough to
do it.
BOB URZ
NSE
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         Thank you very much,
I understand that I can't buy any CarAudio equipment from
the USA for use in Europe..unfortunately.
THE ONLY CHANCE would be that some CD/Tuners had a sort of
electronic "switch" to operate in US (200Hz stepping..someone
told me) or EUROPEAN (50Hz stepping) mode : do you know anything
like this?
                       Thanks for your help!
                                     g
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g.vi...@fastnet.it
- Frequency offsets are different (USA: FM = 200 kHz/step, AM = 10
kHz/step.  Europe: FM = 50 kHz/step, AM = 9 kHz/step).
So, many European stations (both FM and AM) cannot be received with an
American tuner.
- De-emphasis is different (USA = 75 us, Europe = 50 us).
So, an American tuner will sound more "bright" (may be too much!) in
Europe.
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             Quirino Cieri
           Technical Manager
   Kenwood Electronics Italia S.p.A.
 (e-mail: 
quirin...@italymail.com
)

      Thank you very much Quirino for your clear
      technical explanation of the DIFFERENT US and EUROPEAN
      radio standards.
      So it is impossible to use an US CarAudio equipment
      in Europe...BUT do you maybe know about "UNIVERSAL"
      equipment? Wouldn't it be simpler and cheaper for
      the producers to make an unique model with DUAL RADIO
      functionality for both EUROPE and USA? Or is this
      technically difficult?
               THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!
                             Gianluca
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                Thank you BOB,
   Now I know there's no hope (at least at reasonable price)
   to make an US model work in Europe and viceversa.
   Anyway I think it's time for the most important international
   brands to produce "universal" CarAudio equipment : that would
   expand and improve greatly the market.
                     Thanks again, Gianluca
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I had a Denon Cd player that I bought in Indonesia last year (770) and I can
change the FM setting. On the other hand, the CD players that I bought in
the US (mostly Sony) can't be used in Indonesia.
My advice  is trying to call the distributor to see if they have the
universal model.
Charlie
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