Newsgroup: it.comp.hardware
Titolo: HD da recuperare

 Non puoi vivere cosi' a lungo da farli tutti da te.

c'č scritto anche quanto chiedono piu' o meno?
Non ricordo su che rivista avevano verificato i costi e si parla di
migliaia di euro (mi pare dai 2000 in su in base alla fretta che hai).
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Ciao!!!
Michele
I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges

 grazie.
Di nulla, spero solo che il mio piccolo contributo possa aiutarti a
recuperare i tuoi dati, magari a fronte di una spesa ragionevole. Per la
prossima volta fai più spesso i backup. Se ti va fammi sapere quanto ti
chiedono, quasi quasi sono curioso.
Ciao
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Se nemmeno il Bios te lo vede la vedo dura... l'unica
speranza č di provare con Easy Recovery... anche se temo che non
ci sia molto da fare.
Ciao

praticamente... mi stai dicendo che ho un pezzo di ferramenta in casa.
:-)
C'e' chi e' pronto a dare quei soldi... in effetti dovrebbero fare
miracoli recuperando dati anche da HD mezzi bruciati e/o distrutti.
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grazie
se vuoi e posso ti mando in email la breve guida:
200 ways to revive a hard drive 
che contiene qualche utile consiglio.
fammi sapere, magari in email
Il file e' da 500kb
ciao,
Marco

significa che non c'e' piu' nulla da fare o ho qualche possibilita'?
Non me ne intendo, so che qualcuno degli HD cambia l'elettronica se ne
trova uno uguale ma non so quali siano i casi in cui questo serve
(dubito che sia il tuo caso).
Per il resto mi pare che non si possa fare nient'altro perche'
aprendolo lo porti a morte certa per la polvere che entra, comunque su
qualche NG avevo letto di rimedi temporanei che a volte funzionano pur
essendo distruttivi (non mi ricordo se si trattava di aprire e fare
qualcosa o dare qualche botta :-)
Con google ad esempio ho trovato questo e magari potresti trovare
anche altro: 
http://makeashorterlink.com/?W2CB11C43
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 200 ways to revive a hard drive
http://www.midwayisd.org/PDFs/help/200ways.pdf
E' questa?
Stef_Ozzy

 
Nn andare di martello. se trovi un hhd stesso taglio stessa marca stesso 
modello stessa serie aprendolo e spostando solo il blocco con i piatti 
dovrebbe funzionare per un po' (poco),se sia possibile o no dipende da 
hdd a hdd...
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E' questa?
si :-)
mmm non aspettarti miracoli, ma qualche consiglio utile c'e'


Dille anche che costa un occhio dalla testa rivolgersi a ditte
specializzate.
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qualche consiglio? ho su parecchio lavoro su quell'HD.
"Recovering Data From a Bad Hard Drive" 
By BAD I mean bad-sectors. 
Anyway, what I had here - an IBM 60GXP drive, 40GB capacity, which
developed a bunch of bad-sectors, and since all partitions were NTFS,
they were unreadable by plain DOS. And, if you try to get into Windows
with this drive - nope, impossible, sorry! 
So, what now? First of all - a good idea, some software, much
patience, and of course - luck. 
I was lucky, and the drive was partitioned onto 3 smaller partitions.
After all, I managed to get the D and E partitions readable and
recovered data from them - about 7GB of data. Pretty good, because the
guy who asked me to help had his important files on D drive. Lucky for
him and of course - for me. 
A Good Idea 
You can't boot into Windows, because the bad-drive is making those
horrible sounds ('czzzzzzt czzzzzt czzzzzzzt'). You're left with DOS
environment. What to do now? Well, DOS could be useful sometimes, and
I just love it because of this. And, there are some utilities that can
read NTFS from DOS, so, first of all - get some software. 
Some Software 
What to do now? DOS can't read NTFS, we all know that. The trick is to
get some utility that can read it in a DOS environment. I'll leave you
to find that on your own, because there are many of these utilities
which have to be purchased to use (like NTFSDOS PRO for instance).
This is pretty bad, but if your data is valuable (more than $300),
consider this as a solution. 
Another solution is to use WinPE (preinstallation Environment), which
is free; the only problem is how to get it. And, it has all the
utilities you need. AFAIK, it can be found in almost every service
shop, so try to look for it or ask Microsoft. 
Check out 
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/programs/sa/sam/winPe.asp
I haven't used WinPE, but I'd like to hear from someone who used it. 
What To Do Now? 
Get a backup drive. Use a drive which capacity is near the capacity of
the bad-drive, or if you know how much data you need, find some drive
that'll suit you. 
With the utility you own, run a checkup (something like CHKDSK) on the
drive (don't mount partitions yet!). 
Be patient, very patient! 
It'd be clever to put the bad-disk on some machine that won't be in
use by someone, and leave it do its job. This process is very long and
depends how much data you want to get out - for me it was about 15
hours to check and repair 3 partitions. 
After the drive has been scanned, repaired and so, just mount the
partitions and copy the data on your backup drive. 
How To Use NTFSDOS PRO? (A Guide) 
First, get a bootable diskette (Win98 startup for instance). Make a
NTFSDOS PRO diskettes and boot from a floppy with the Win98 boot
diskette. Put the second NTFSDOS diskette and run NTFSCHK /A (or
something like that, try NTFSCHK *). It will test all the partitions
on all drives connected to controllers. 
This process will last very long, so leave the computer on as long as
it takes. After you've checked those partitions (NTFSCHK will try to
repair them during the process), use NTFSPRO from the first diskette
to mount those drives. 
Now, it would be wise to have the backup-drive attached to the
controller. NTFSDOS will mount volumes and you could access your data.
I suggest that you disconnect all the other drives after you created
those diskettes, just leave the bad-drive and a backup-drive. 
Before the whole process, you'll need some software located in
OLDMSDOS directory of your Win98 CD: 
EMM386.EXE 
SMARTDRV.EXE 
HIMEM.SYS 
XCOPY.EXE 
XCOPY32.MOD 
DOSKEY.COM
 
Then: 
Make a directory UTIL on a backup-drive. Write 'md x:\util', where X
is the letter of your backup-drive. 
Copy all of those utilities to this UTIL directory. 
Put a PATH variable pointing to this directory. Write 'path=x:\util'. 
Start DOSKEY, which will let you use you up-arrow to get all commands
you've written before, it could be useful later. Just write 'doskey'. 
Run SMARTDRV to enable disk-caching (it speeds up very much). Write
'smartdrv'. 
Go to the first partition you need to get data from. 
Copy all directories you want. Write 'xcopy /s directory x:', where
Directory is the directory you want to backup, and X is the letter of
backup drive. 
Repeat 5) and 6) until you have copied all the partitions. 
Press Ctrl-Alt-Delete to flush the cache, and unmount the NTFS
volumes. 
Power-off your computer, and get your backup-drive with your valuable
data, copy it on several locations (including CD-R/RW), and be happy.
Very, very happy. 
This is the exact procedure I used to recover data from that
bad-drive. And, from time to time, I just wanted to restart my
computer and say that I couldn't do it, but something stopped me every
time. 
Now, some advice from the first hand: 
If you have anything valuable or important on your computer - BACKUP
immediately! 
NTFS is the most secure FS for now, but you can't read it from DOS,
and that's bad. So, if you want to avoid disasters - make a few
partitions and use the latest partition to store valuable and
important data - and write down the address of this article for future
use. 
BACKUP your data, the more sources you have, the less damage you'll
see!! 
If you don't have the will or money for those utilities, consider
WinPE, or consider formatting the partition for your important data
under FAT16/32 file-system. And, again - use the last partition you
have for storing important data.