Newsgroup: it.news.gestione
Titolo: [Fwd: VOGLIO ESSERE TUA - phone957..jpg (1/1)]

 alt. groups. Would you have asked tale?
I am sorry for the disturbance, but I was simply trying to reach some
help, here. Can you then please tell me if there is any group where to
report abuse coming from an Italian site.
Internet is a space of freedom, where things are better when people
cooperate. I posted the message in the hope someone could help. What is
one to do when the posting is anonymous, and when the Internet provider of
the abuser does not seem to bother replying ? 
In the US, most providers have at least the courtesy to forward complaints
to the sender, even if they do not want to get directly involved. This way
at least, some communication is possible between users of the newsgroups
and spammers.
I do not believe in supressing all information from sites and others who
need to advertise. I simply feel it is more constructive to establish some
communication.
I was not able to find any group starting with "it." that would seem
analogous to news.admin.net-abuse.usenet . However, I saw in your group
other reports of spamming.
It is always very easy to reply in a confrontational or dismissive way. We
all know so well how to do it. However, Internet is a worldwide mean of
communication, and it seems to me much more constructive to try to help,
rather than to systematically rebutle.
By the way, you seem to quote admirably well what you intend to dismiss,
especially after you killed what I wrote, but I did write in my original
message I was TRYING TO GET SOME HELP. 
Thank-you in advancec for any CONSTRUCTIVE reply.
MB

, 
m...@beatles.cselt.stet.it
% (Maurizio Codogno) wrote:
% 
% > it.news.gestione is meant to discuss problems in the management of it.*
% > hierarchy. As in the best tradition of Usenet, we have no control
% > whatsoever on the users' policy of the specific servers, especially about
% > alt. groups. Would you have asked tale?
% 
% I am sorry for the disturbance, but I was simply trying to reach some
% help, here. Can you then please tell me if there is any group where to
% report abuse coming from an Italian site.
Not at the moment, I am afraid. Since it is a good idea, I think that
it.news.net-abuse will be shortly created. But of course this is just 
a side of the medal: if Italian news administrators will not look at the
messages of the group, it will be rather useless.
% Internet is a space of freedom, where things are better when people
% cooperate. I posted the message in the hope someone could help. What is
% one to do when the posting is anonymous, and when the Internet provider of
% the abuser does not seem to bother replying ? 
My own opinion is that such messages should be stopped at newsserver site:
INN 1.5.* provides good hooks for such things. Unfortunately news are often
seen as a no-law land, and some news admin does not want to be bothered
with news management.
% I was not able to find any group starting with "it." that would seem
% analogous to news.admin.net-abuse.usenet . However, I saw in your group
% other reports of spamming.
My point was not about the report of spamming, but rather about the sending
of a whole incriminated article, while header should have sufficed. After
all, I don't have to look at the picture to believe you, do I?
(and I quoted all of your message exactly because I deleted it - users
should be able to know which discussion is going on)
The only CONSTRUCTIVE help I can give you is the name of the person which
should run the news server from which those messages were sent,
Antonio Saponaro (
s...@vol.it
, or failing it, 
s...@tin.it
).
.mau.