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Sono ottime come qualita' prezzo per la musica?.
Ciao Berry
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 Sono ottime come qualita' prezzo per la musica?.
E basta Berry, mi sembri un castoro, stai spargendo segatura ovunque...
Ciao
Clark Kent
PS Non eri tu il fanatico del Best Buy? Che ne dici del T-Amp? Come mai non 
lo consigli? 

 ... stai spargendo segatura ovunque...
ahìa..., serve un medicamento al cranio, allora......:-)))
p.s.: ma sto' T-amp è veramente così "ultracorporis"...?
-- 
        -  the sheriff® -

 p.s.: ma sto' T-amp è veramente così "ultracorporis"...?
Che ti devo dire... a me piace!
Ciao
Clark Kent 

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non è sufficiente...
allora due domande:
1) secondo te suona "diverso" da ogni cosa (ampli) che hai ascoltato (a
parte la dinamica)?
2) fammi un esempio di ampli che gli "assomiglia" come suono.
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"massivan"
Hai un equalizzatore automatico
con generatore di rumore rosa
e relativo microfono?
Purtroppo l'ambiente di ascolto non é
flat e in più, il decadimento su certe
frequenze non é rapido...
 
www.faimusica.it

 2) fammi un esempio di ampli che gli "assomiglia" come suono.
Accuphase.
Ciao
Clark Kent 

 Accuphase.
ammazza aò....!
hai detto niente..:-)
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Ovviamente per me fanno pena.Ma c'e' chi le esalta dicendo che sono
state scelte proprio per quello.Nulla di male in quanto opinione
personale ma cercare da guro di venderle come per la musica...
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 Accuphase.
ma dai...

 Ciao Berry
MA CHE MINCHIA VUOL DIRE??????????????????

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Linguaggio da guro "doc"...ROTFL
Giorgio

In un post hai consigliato come diffusori, per un tizio che chiedeva
diffusori per musica pop, rock e hard rock, le
Audes Studio 1200 euro.
Per favore, mi dici caratteristiche e impressioni di ascolto dei diffusori
Audes Studio 1200 euro?
Le caratteristiche timbriche si associano bene all'ascolto di rock, hard
rock e pop?
Sono neutrali? Metalliche? Frizzanti? Calde? Fredde? ...?
Grazie

 ma dai...
Tu lo hai?
Ciao
Clark Kent 

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Anche tu eh? Gli devono ancora arrivare.
Ciao
Clark Kent 

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Invece dei tuoi soliti copia e incolla perche' non descrivi queste Audes?
Con parole tue.
Ciao
Clark Kent 

 ha scritto nel messaggio 
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Qui' c'e' qualcuno che ha scambiato il NG come il palco per mettere in
atto una propria battaglia personale contro Berry.
Ci sono persone (non tu) che hanno anche il coraggio di dirsi stanche
di
queste discussioni, ma iniziano nuovi sempre thread contro di lui.
Alla fine un piano c'e': 
E' quello di quei 4 pirla dai molteplici volti di intasare il NG di
messaggi OT su berry affinche' la gente stanca non convinca Berry ad
andarsene.
In realta' se guardiamo i post di berry sono sempre relativi a
prodotti e
non persone e il lettore e' pure avvertito che e' un commerciante.
Sai quanti commercianti scrivono le loro opinioni senza dire di
esserlo?
E berry non dice venite da me a comperare parla dei prodotti.
Per qualcuno diviene una questione di principio buttarlo fuori.
Ma il principio sta nel fatto che semplicemente canta fuori dal coro.
E rompe l'egemonia di controllo che certa gente si sente di avere del
NG.
Poi si potrebbe fargli il processo e vedere se in qualcosa e'
colpevole o
innocente. Ma NON HA SENSO E NON SI DEVE. 
Altrimenti PROCESSO A TUTTI!!!!
Se sei nauseato come lo sono io, e come lo saranno in molti. 
Occorre dire a quei 4 signori di smettrla di fare gli idioti e di
onorare
la loro intelligienza.
Y.
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Ciao Berry
Ascoltate sempre in raffronto DIRETTO prima di acquistare.
home-theater-hifi.com
 & RadioWeblog: 
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> Tu lo hai?
no, ma a questo punto mi hai seriamente incuriosito...
vedro' di ordinarlo da qualche parte, se sarà disponibile...

 vedro' di ordinarlo da qualche parte, se sarà disponibile...
Ero MOLTO scettico anche io... :-)
Ciao
Clark Kent 

Berry,
in un post hai consigliato come diffusori, per un tizio che chiedeva
diffusori per musica pop, rock e hard rock, le
Audes Studio 1200 euro.
Per favore, mi dici caratteristiche e impressioni di ascolto dei diffusori
Audes Studio 1200 euro?
Le caratteristiche timbriche si associano bene all'ascolto di rock, hard
rock e pop?
Sono neutrali? Metalliche? Frizzanti? Calde? Fredde? ...?
Inoltre, che cosa inendi dire quando dici che un diffusore "suona solo
forte"?
Grazie

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La migliore alternativa alle Usher 708 ,rispetto alle quali hanno una
maggiore dolcezza. 
Firrst heard the Audes Studio Monitors at CES, I wasn’t impressed.
Perhaps it was the electronics, the acoustics, or something else, but
they were harsh at the top. Nevertheless, something told me to listen
again. The next day, they sounded much smoother and more robust. These
speakers have a 6 1/2" woofer and a 1" soft-dome tweeter (SEAS), and
are front-ported, which allows them to be placed close to the back
wall without overloading the room with bass. Their frequency range is
49-20k Hz, and they are rated at 8 ohms and 87dB sensitivity. They are
bi-wireable, have a rather flimsy plastic front grill, and weigh a
hefty 31lbs. apiece. They look a little different. Each has two slabs
of solid oak, one on each side of the cabinet, which extend below and
behind the main housing. They look nice. The stands are also oak, and
are very attractive. 
When I first hooked them up they sounded very veiled and unclear, but
this went away within 24 hours. One of my favorite review discs is Big
Bad Voodoo Daddy’s This Beautiful Life. The instruments (cymbals,
bass, and piano), while realistic, were somewhat lightweight, and
lacked the depth and fullness that I’ve heard with other speakers. The
vocals were a little harsh and edgy at the top, but the mids were very
pleasing, and seemed accurate. The horns that I love so much from this
group were right on, possessing that great brass bite. Israel
Kawakawiwo’ole’s Facing Future CD provided an altogether different
listening experience. His delicate, sweet voice was somewhat distant,
and lacking in detail and clarity. The same went for his ukulele
playing, which lacked the warmth and smoothness that I know this disc
can reproduce in my system. Mary Black’s No Frontiers, on the other
hand, was extremely engaging. It seemed as though she was right there
with me in the room. Her music and voice are light and delicate, and
were complemented very well by the Audes. Her voice got a little harsh
at the top on a couple of crescendos, but was mostly easy to listen
to. The acoustic guitar on the track "Fog in Monterey" was so real
that I could have listened to it all day. James Taylor’s Hourglass CD
is well recorded, and a good piece to judge the reproduction of male
voice. On the track "Little More Time With You," my three-year-old
began to clap and dance to the music. Also noticeable was the rich,
deep bass (which seemed much deeper than 49Hz), and smooth,
well-balanced vocals.  
Music that is light in weight is ideal with these speakers, but when
full orchestration or deep bass is predominant, they lack the punch
and depth that I love. However, that costs much more money. They do,
however, sound much deeper than 49Hz much of the time. Their
soundstage is good-sized, and they image nicely. I found them to be
involving and easy to listen to, though they lack some of the clarity
and detail I’ve heard with other speakers, such as the Ruark Prologue
IIs ($2000) or the ATC 7s ($1100). I prefer a more full range speaker,
but if you’re in the market for a mini-monitor for under a grand,
these are worth a listen. Jim Grudzien 
You should know up front that I’m not a fan of mini-monitors, though
the Audes Studios aren’t exactly minis. Each speaker is about the size
of a microwave oven, and just as heavy (31 lbs). The Studios are part
of the Audes Credo line. 
For the purpose of this review, the Studios were compared to the
Magnepan 1.6s in my main system(4000 euro). The Studios were broken in
from previous use. I moved the speakers into various positions until I
located the best balance of bass and midrange clarity. The first thing
that struck me about them was their generous bass. My CD by Buena
Vista Social Club bassist Orlando “Cachaito” Lopez sounded fully
developed, in contrast to the truncated bass response of many speakers
in this class. The Studios lacked only a small measure of definition
and scale when compared to the larger and more expensive Magnepans. As
is characteristic of stand-mounted box speakers, the Audes rendered
well-focused images, but, unlike many similar speakers, they created a
soundspace of considerable dimension, and did not minimize musical
events. Eddie Palmieri’s new CD La Perfecta II, on Concord, is a grand
musical event. Palmieri’s percussive piano mated perfectly with the
Audes’ punchy sound. Soft dome tweeters are generally more pleasing to
me than their metal dome counterparts. The one-inch unit in the Studio
does an admirable job in the sensitive upper regions. Cymbals and
cowbells shimmered with overtones. I could easily distinguish between
the wooden guiros commonly used in Latin Jazz versus the metal guiros
typical of salsa and merengue. 
I found the Audes Studios to be enjoyable speakers of considerable
value. They produce surprising amounts of bass and punchy,
room-filling sound. For $995 , they represent an honest entry into the
pricey world of hi fi. With some patience and five hundred more
dollars, though, the level of refinement available grows
exponentially. Ultimately, the Studios trailed far behind the Magnepan
1.6s. Even without taking into account the large panels’ bipolar wave
launch, the Maggies’ execution of fine details and instrumental timbre
is unparalleled at its price(4000 euro). If I wanted to appreciate the
artistry of Jim Hall and Pat Methneeliminatey playing acoustic
guitars, out went the Audes and in went the Maggies. If I needed to
quickly form an impression of a new component, the 1.6s were called up
for duty. At $995, however, the Audes Studios are definite contenders.
Victor Chavira 
 
Posted by Jerry O ( A ) on February 15, 2002 at 16:05:22  
In Reply to: Which giant killer speakers for up tp $2500? posted by
Samuel on February 15, 2002 at 12:56:00:  
Audes Studio's with matching stands and Gallo powered sub. Regards,
Jerry O.  
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> Sono ottime come qualita' prezzo per la musica?.
Direi proprio di sě.
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 distributore americano.
ma ho visto nel suo sito che le audes 535 costano 1800 euro la coppia.
Essendo best buy sono meglio, ad esempio, di due klipsch rf35 (1400-1550
euro la coppia)?

euro la coppia)?
Silver  
1800 euro 
Nominal impedance          4 Ohm 
Max. long term power         120 W 
Max. short term power         160 W 
Frequency range (+-2 dB)         46-20000 Hz 
Lf corner (-6 dB)         37 Hz 
Sensitivity (2.83V / 1m)         90 dB 
Crossower frequency         1800 Hz 
Woofer         2 x 165 mm (6,5") cone type 
Tweeter         27 mm (1") soft dome type 
Front grill         removable 
Dimensions         1170 x 205 x 340 mm 
(base 320 x 380 mm) 
Weight         27 Kg 
By StereoTimes Usa 
Audes, the Estonia-based loudspeaker company, has released a new
product line with the same focus—great sound at a reasonable price—but
with a slightly different twist this year. With the “Maestro” product
line, Audes is attempting to meet many consumer needs with a single
speaker, versus focusing on accommodating pure audiophile needs. My
first introduction to Audes was slightly over one year ago when I had
the opportunity to review the Audes Blues loudspeaker. I was very
impressed by the sound of the Blues, especially for the price. So
naturally, I was very interested when I was asked to listen to the new
Audes 535’s. 
 
The 535’s are designed to suit the needs of audio and video
enthusiasts that share their living space with a home theatre and/or
audio system. The designers at Audes realize that these days, people
have merged their audio and video systems into one living space,
instead of a dedicated “listening room.” The new approach taken by
Audes was interesting to me, and I became curious to hear how the 535
sounded compared to the Blues and other speakers. 
 
The 535’s arrived in boxes similar to that of the more expensive Blues
speakers; however, the boxes consisted of only double cardboard and
did not use the thin wood liners on all sides. Thanks to their tall
and narrow design, these speakers do not take up very much floor
space, and are easier to place than side firing woofer designs like
the Blues. The internal video shielding allows the 535 speakers to be
placed adjacent to a television set for home theater use, without
distorting the picture. To complement the loudspeakers, Audes offers a
matching center channel speaker, powered subwoofer, and bookshelf
speakers that can be used for the rear channels, for a complete home
theater setup. 
 
The 535’s are the largest loudspeaker in the Maestro line. Each
speaker is only 8” wide, 13” deep, but stands tall at 46” with the
base and spikes installed. 
 
At first glance, the 535’s appear very similar to the Blues,
especially from the front, as the tweeter is positioned between two
other drivers. They are also built with the same high quality and
craftsmanship. The pair I received was finished in a light cherry
color; they have an elegant, tall and narrow design with a real wood
veneer finish on the sides and top, and a long narrow grille that
extends the entire face of the speaker. I was impressed that Audes
chose to use a real wood veneer instead of the vinyl veneer often
found on many other speakers in this price range. I feel the real wood
veneer gives the speaker a more expensive, furniture-quality look. The
entire cabinet is internally braced, and built using 19mm MDF. The
front and rear of the speaker is finished with a black painted MDF
layer to support the drivers and dampen the cabinet. In the rear of
the speaker are two large bass ports and two pairs of gold plated
5-way binding posts for bi-wiring. 
 
The 535’s use a 2-way configuration versus the 3-way configuration of
the Blues. The 1-inch tweeter mounted between the two woofers is made
by SEAS, and the low frequencies are driven from two front mounted
6-inch polypropylene woofers (introduced this year and designed and
built by Audes). The internal wiring is composed of different cables
provided by DH Labs, and the caps are made by F&T in Germany.
Sonically, the 535’s are very crisp and clear, but not as smooth in
the midrange as the more expensive Blues. The resolution and
soundstage of this speaker is very good for the price range. I must
admit that at first, I felt the 535’s were lacked bass and sounded
bright. But after almost a 48-hour break-in period, the bass response
became tighter and deeper, and the highs had softened slightly. I
should also mention that I make this statement after becoming very
accustomed to listening to my reference pair of 
Talon Ravens, which boast extraordinary bass with a wide and detailed
soundstage. With proper placement in the listening area, the 535’s are
capable of being self-sufficient, although at times, I did find they
struggled to produce significant low frequency volume with deep bass
notes—a situation that can be remedied with a subwoofer. As I make
these points, I should also note that the 535’s are Audes’ mid-level
floor-standing speaker. The larger Blues and Orpheus speakers provide
greater musical qualities, but at a higher price. 
 
I connected the 535’s to my Pass Labs X150 amplifier, knowing that
this amp would not provide coloration that could hide the speaker’s
characteristics, and placed the speakers 1.5’ from the back wall and
11’ apart, I found that this configuration achieved optimal imaging
and low frequency response in my area. As I played Come Away With Me
[Blue Note BN7243] by Norah Jones, the small LF drivers moved quickly,
delivering tight, fast bass that was well controlled and musical. The
mid-bass volume was better than I expected from the small low
frequency driver configuration. The lower extension was good, but
sometimes would not hit some of the lower ranges—not uncommon for a
speaker in this price range. Midrange presence was strong but not
overpowering; Norah’s piano and vocals were presented with good
definition and imaging within the soundstage. I found the same sonic
characteristics when listening to Rickie Lee Jones’ Pop Pop: good
vocal and midrange reproduction, as well as tight and fast acoustic
bass response. Similar to other European manufactured speakers, I
found the high and mid-range reproduction of the 535’s slightly
forward and brighter than the typically relaxed sound of comparably
priced US manufactured speakers. 
 
To test the speaker’s resolution, I listened to a re-mastered 96kHz
24-bit recording of "L.A. Woman" [Elektra 75011-2] by The Doors. I
find listening to Riders on the Storm to be a good test because I have
noticed that many components, not only speakers, sometimes cannot
resolve the detail of the falling rain, present in the background
throughout the track. However, I was confident that all equipment in
the signal chain driving the speakers was able to reveal this detail.
I found the 535’s did a good job resolving the detail, but sometimes
struggled to separate the rain from the soft taps of the cymbals. But
don’t get me wrong, I have heard speakers that cost much more have
difficulty with this, and at the 535’s price point, I think they do a
very good job. While listening to the trio of Hargrove, McBride, and
Scott play their renditions of Charlie Parker songs on “Parker's Mood”
[VERVE 314 527 907-2], the 535’s handled the power of the Pass Labs
X150 well, even at high volumes. The bass was controlled and defined,
especially in the mid-bass area, although some roll-off occurred
towards the lower end. Transient horn passages blasted with a clean
sharpness, bright, but not harsh. Considering the price range of the
535’s, imaging is good—not as open and wide as more expensive
speakers, but then again, that is to be expected. 
 
The Audes 535 is built in the Audes tradition and therefore exhibits
fine craftsmanship, sleek styling, and musical sound. I believe the
Audes 535 is an all around top performer that competes well with some
of the larger and more well known high-end speaker designs in the
under $2,000 price range. 
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Detto da chi usa un onkio ht per la musica..forse si.
Ciao Berry
Ascoltate sempre in raffronto DIRETTO prima di acquistare.
home-theater-hifi.com
 & RadioWeblog: 
http://www.livejournal.com/users/paulberry/

 1800 euro[]
non intendevo sulla carta, mi riferivo ad impressioni d'ascolto.

 under $2,000 price range. 
Beh se costano 1800 euro e competono con *alcuni* marchi della fascia 
sotto i 2000 dollari (circa 1500 euro) ... sono davvero un affarone ;-)
-- 
serghej
"In principio Dio creò l'uomo, ma, vedendolo debole, gli diede il cane."

 sotto i 2000 dollari (circa 1500 euro) ... sono davvero un affarone ;-)
LOL, .ma Berry pensa ancora che il dollaro sia al cambio del 2002 :-)


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Sono la versione a box "economico" delle Jazz.
Sono da raffrontare a diffusori di note marche dal costo di 5000 euro.
Quelle che con 3000 euro ti danno la versione da scaffale e ti
chiedono 6000-7000 euro per le versioni a pavimento.Il cosidetto
hi-end .Oggi finalmente disponibile ad un terzo del prezzo.
Una gamma dinamica e trasparente, senza esaltazioni agli estremi fatti
per colpire e stancare e creare difficili collocazioni in
ambiente.Insieme allle Usher il meglio come rapporto qualita' prezzo
oggi presente a livello ww.
A detta chi e' appassionato e non usa gli ng per nascondere i prodotti
migliori a beneficio dell'ignoranza.
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sotto i 2000 dollari (circa 1500 euro) ... sono davvero un affarone ;-)
Trova qualcosa di meglio e poi ha senso criticare come fai tu.
Cosi' finalmente sarai stato di qualche utilita' al buon suono.
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 Cosi' finalmente sarai stato di qualche utilita' al buon suono.
Guarda che l'hai postato tu il copia e incolla...
Almeno leggi quello che incolli prima di postare.
Ciao
Clark Kent 

 Trova qualcosa di meglio e poi ha senso criticare come fai tu.
Guarda che quell'articolo l'hai postato tu eh... io ho solo messo in 
evidenza ciň che era implicito nel contenuto.
Ciao e buon lavoro ;-)
-- 
serghej
"In principio Dio creň l'uomo, ma, vedendolo debole, gli diede il cane."

 Clark Kent 
Ciao
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Certo che te parlare male delle Polk... il fatto che non puoi venderle,
contemporaneamente al fatto che stanno riscuotendo un ottimo successo di
gradimento e di vendite, centra nulla?

 gradimento e di vendite, centra nulla?
Non si rende conto che non i suoi post convince la gente a comprarle invece 
di allontanarla... un genio del marketing non c'e' che dire. Secondo me e' 
pagato da Mediaworld :-D
Ciao
Clark Kent 

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Le calunnie le leascio a te.
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 MA CHE MINCHIA VUOL DIRE??????????????????
che risate.....per fortuna l'ho eliminato tempo fa,.....
--
Ciao Massimo

> Le calunnie le leascio a te.
A parte che non ho calunniato nessuno
E allora perchč non hai risposto con maggior precisione alle domande che ti
sono state fatte?
A domanda precisa, risposta precisa.
Tu rispondi sempre cosě:
Domanda: come ti chiami?
Risposta tipica di Berry:
Adam Sandler has always been the most musically inclined. It's only natural
then that the creator of Opera Man and "The Hanukkah Song" would record
What's Your Name, an entirely song-based, and often hilarious, musical
parody record. The album's first song commences with one of Sandler's
trademark nonsense words--a menacing "Schnoin!"--then goes on to tell the
tale of a neighborly old man whose hobby is "Moyda" (or murder). There's
also two spot-on snipes at Bruce Springsteen, "The Lonesome Kicker" and
"Listenin' to the Radio," and one of the most unsettling dance-floor throw
downs you'll ever hear--the P-Funk meets Ween booty-shake of "Dance Like You
Just Shit Your Pants." Sandler ransacks just about every musical genre known
to western humanity, but it's his unrepentant immaturity, more than his
chops, that's sure to make What's Your Name a junior high school bus classic
for years to come. --Matt Hanks

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Puoi anche riscriverslo 100 volte ma dimostri solo quanto sei un
piccolo frustrato individiuo.
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 piccolo frustrato individiuo.
Puo' anche essere... certo che anche tu con i copia e incolla 
chilometrici... come ti definisci? Sei un soggetto interessante lasciatelo 
dire.
La conosci quella della trave nell'occhio?
Ciao
Clark Kent 

 piccolo frustrato individiuo.
Vale per tutti i kb di cagate che scrivi tu.
Saluti.
Froilan

Tu rispondi sempre così:
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Non essendo esperto del settore non saprei se al vostro gruppetto
serve più 
uno psicologo o uno psichiatra. Allucinazioni, manie di persecuzione, 
paranoie, ossessioni e psicosi varie. Ma voi Berry lo vedete proprio 
ovunque, ormai è un vero incubo. Di notte scommetto che lo sognate.
Durante 
il giorno non vedete l'ora di entrare nel ng per scovare lui o
qualcuno dei 
suoi discepoli che mina la sacralità e la purezza delle vostre
convinzioni 
ed intervenire per  punirlo. Vi rendete conto che Berry è diventata la
vostra ossessione??? Vi sta succhiando la vita e nemmeno ve ne
accorgete. 
Ragazzi, sinceramente, fossi in voi mi preoccuperei. Fate una cosa:
dite al 
vostro james bond (non ricordo il nome, siete tutti uguali) che
risalga ai 
pc di chi posta, così una volta per tutte sapremo chi e quanti si
annidano 
dietro il fantomatico Berry!!!!! Ma per cortesia....FATELO!!! Per il
vostro 
bene ed equilibrio! 
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 ovunque, ormai è un vero incubo. Di notte scommetto che lo sognate.
Occhio Berry... te lo vogliono mettere nel culo.
Attento. Sfottili ma non pensare troppo a coloro che rosicano
perchè tu guadagni molto e scopi con belle ragazze.
Pensa alle tua amiche, sono molto carine. Cazzo!
Ciao.
Cactus

 Pensa alle tua amiche, sono molto carine. Cazzo!
e hanno le basette lunghe.


Noto che non ti intendi di Sorca, con la Esse Maiuscola.
E io sono andato a trovare Berry esclusivamente perchè ha notevoli amiche.
Le basette le hanno i tuoi sodomizzatori, frocione.
CHIARO?
Cactus

 Noto che non ti intendi di Sorca, con la Esse Maiuscola.
sono un magnaccio.
hai bisogno di qualcosa, segaiolo?

 hai bisogno di qualcosa, segaiolo?
No coglione, non ho bisogno di nulla.
Anche tu non hai amiche che te la danno, coglione.
Che stiano a casa i coglioni come te.
CHIARO?
Cactus