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Titolo: a volte penso

a volte penso che per l'hacking ci sia bisogno di avere una buona dose di
culo e passione.
a volte penso che ci sono hacker che non sanno un cacchio di programmazione
ma secondo me sono dei mostri.
č possibile tutto questo?
un hacker, nel senso piů puro del termine, che conoscenze deve avere?

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A parte essere OT, penso che dovresti farti una cultura prima... :)
http://www.apogeonline.com/openpress/libri/545/index.html
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beh...... culo, passione, programmazione, mostri ....... ??????????
Scusa, perche' mai vorresti diventare un hacker ?!? (a parte il fatto che
praticamente non sai nemmeno cosa sono !).
Non e' meglio diventare dei programmatori ??? (distinzione a parte fra
hacking e cracking, credo che la cosa piu' divertente sia programmare.
Programmare==creare==arte).
Se i tuoi gusti sono differenti, e questo e' lecito, allora dimmi, una volta
diventato un hacker (se mai ci riuscirai) cosa vorresti fare ?????
Aspetto impazientemente tue notizie,
Alex

 avere?
Rispondo con la definizione di "hacker" dal "jargon file":
:hacker: n. [originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe] 1. A 
   person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how 
   to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to 
   learn only the minimum necessary. 2. One who programs enthusiastically 
   (even obsessively) or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing 
   about programming. 3. A person capable of appreciating {hack value}. 4. 
   A person who is good at programming quickly. 5. An expert at a 
   particular program, or one who frequently does work using it or on it; 
   as in `a Unix hacker'. (Definitions 1 through 5 are correlated, and 
   people who fit them congregate.) 6. An expert or enthusiast of any kind. 
   One might be an astronomy hacker, for example. 7. One who enjoys the 
   intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing 
   limitations. 8. [deprecated] A malicious meddler who tries to discover 
   sensitive information by poking around. Hence `password hacker', 
   `network hacker'. The correct term for this sense is {cracker}. 
   The term `hacker' also tends to connote membership in the global 
   community defined by the net (see {the network} and {Internet address}). 
   For discussion of some of the basics of this culture, see the How To 
   Become A Hacker (
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
) FAQ. 
   It also implies that the person described is seen to subscribe to some 
   version of the hacker ethic (see {hacker ethic}). 
   It is better to be described as a hacker by others than to describe 
   oneself that way. Hackers consider themselves something of an elite (a 
   meritocracy based on ability), though one to which new members are 
   gladly welcome. There is thus a certain ego satisfaction to be had in 
   identifying yourself as a hacker (but if you claim to be one and are 
   not, you'll quickly be labeled {bogus}). See also {geek}, {wannabee}. 
   This term seems to have been first adopted as a badge in the 1960s by 
   the hacker culture surrounding TMRC and the MIT AI Lab. We have a report 
   that it was used in a sense close to this entry's by teenage radio hams 
   and electronics tinkerers in the mid-1950s.
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Non per sottolizzare, ma la traduzione esatta di hacker č smanettone, ossia
non si fa riferimento ad alcuna nozione tecnica. Certo quelle sono
importanti, ma non sono le cose principali.
Piuttosto, prova a farti un giro su alt.hackers,
alt.hackers.cough.cough.cough. Li troverai persone che sapranno spiegarti
megli tutto.
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