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Titolo: Total Victory2

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COINCIDENT SPEAKER TECHNOLOGY TOTAL VICTORY II- I've heard the
original version of these speakers for three years now, in a number of
extensive and thorough auditions, using equipment, software and
listening rooms I am intimately familiar with, and with varying degree
of break-in; from very little up to being fully broken-in.
I've been very impressed with them from the beginning, and in every
subsequent instance, but I've held back from making a direct
recommendation for two reasons: 
1. I wasn't certain of the full extent of their most obvious, to me,
sonic problem, and 
2. I wasn't as impressed with them, frankly, as much as I thought I
would be after I went back to my own system. (This is equally true of
almost all the other speakers and components I've heard since then,
but with the Total Victory I didn't know why.) 
As of June, 2004, this is no longer the case, since both of the above
reasons are now history.
There is a new (II) version of these speakers, which not only takes
care of my primary sonic reservation, but also improves on their sonic
strengths and, very importantly, even allows the use of a greater
choice of low-powered amplifiers. Here are the details:
The Total Victory II looks exactly the same as the original version,
meaning the cabinet and drivers are exactly the same. The changes are
in the crossover, the tuning of the ports, the internal cabling (with
their latest Extreme speaker cable-see below) and better floor
coupling (with larger, heavy-duty spikes and "Extender Feet").
Unfortunately, I didn't hear the speakers with either the new spikes
or the extender feet. Improved coupling should provide superior focus,
bass definition and more precise transients. So I still haven't heard
these speakers at their absolute best. (They weren't totally broken-in
either, but they were reasonably close.)
I actually didn't expect much of a difference, and I was not given a
"heads-up" of what to listen for by the person performing the
audition, so I went into the listening session both skeptical and
"blind". That perspective didn't last too long, because the
improvements, while not "day and night" or "fundamental", were
definitely easily noticeable and "significant", meaning the type of
improvements that raise a component to a new level of performance. 
The first improvement I noticed was in the area that bothered me the
most in the past; overall cohesiveness and blend, or as many have
described it; "sonics like a seamless piece of cloth". The improvement
was obvious; the speaker was now as "seamless" as any four-way I've
heard. This quality enhanced other strengths of the speaker; it was
more natural; especially noticeable with male voices, which had less
overhang and slurring, or body without fat.
Then I started hearing other improvements; there was greater phase
coherence, allowing more musical textures to be heard and greater
separation and intellegibility of the musicians. The noise floor was
also lower; conveying more subtle details, decays, harmonics,
micro-dynamics etc. The sound was cleaner, more precise and more
immediate too. While one other change was made in the system (a
cartridge), I still know some of these improvements emanated from the
speaker, because of another comparison we made, but I just don't know
how much.
Also important was the enhanced ability of low-powered tube amps to
control the lower bass of the II. I heard this distinctly with the
Coincident MP 300B, which has only 17 watts or so. The amp had good
bass detail and even impact with this new model. This means amps with
minimum midrange and high frequency compromises can now be used to
drive this speaker. 
So overall, from my perspective, the Total Victory II goes from being
"excellent", though maybe a "near miss", to something that is now
outstanding and highly recommended. I feel this way because it passed
my ultimate personal test; by comparison, my own system, custom made
for my preferences, was not much more satisfying. In fact, taking into
consideration the differences in listening rooms, the two systems were
competitive. This might not appear like much of a distinction, but in
the last 8 years, only two speakers I've heard have been able to make
that claim; the Total Victory II and the Avantgarde Duo. So what does
this all mean?
At this point in time, the two finest speakers currently available, at
least that I am aware of, without any considerations of price, are the
Total Victory II and the Avantgarde Duo (and most likely the
Avantgarde Trio). To make that statement clear; none of the mega-buck
speakers I heard at the CES 2004 were as satifying overall*. 
*Though it must be kept in mind that I heard those speakers in "show
conditions" while I heard the Total Victory II in an all-out,
optimized home set-up.
-- 
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Total Victory...Io ce l'ho, e' un gioco della playstation :-)
e' uscito gia' il due ? corro a comperarlo :-)
Piergiorgio