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Titolo: Ultimo richiamo Virtual PC

Ciao,
prometto che poi smetto dirompere i maroni con sto programma! :-) Hop deciso
di comprarlo, ma non so se faccio bene o male... ossia non so se poi me lo 
ritrovo con la versione italiana di eCS... ne sapete niente? A chi posso 
rivolgermi nel caso?
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 rivolgermi nel caso?
 
.. divago un attimo, anche perche' non so cosa risponderti :),
 attimo, ma sarebbe carino scoprire cosa stanno combinando i russi di 
parallel.ru
approposito del loro emulatore. Girano voci, ma il sito e' tutto russo
:-(
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 rivolgermi nel caso?
Allora, a questo punto se non hai bisogno di far girare eCS sotto Windows (ma
solo il contrario) NON comprarlo, ed aspetta una settimana.
La versione integrata con eCS farà di più - a parte far girare Win come host - e
costerà meno.
Stefano Sutti
Studio Legale Sutti

In article <t0H67KFRKfPp-pn2-R2LmGcl3owol@elettra>,
aarregh@-AT-libero.it (Antonio Arreghini) wrote:
 >prometto che poi smetto dirompere i maroni con sto programma! :-) Hop deciso
 >di comprarlo, ma non so se faccio bene o male... ossia non so se poi me lo
 >ritrovo con la versione italiana di eCS... ne sapete niente? A chi posso
 >rivolgermi nel caso?
ho visto che hanno annunciato un altro prodotto simile che per ora
permette di far girare OS/2 come guest:
 twoOStwo - Run OS/2 under Windows - 10/31/02 @ 18:39
 This is an X86 Emulator to run OS/2 and several other OSes under Windows.
 It support several OSes running under Windows like OS/2 v3, OS/2 v4,
 OS/2 v4.5, DOS, Windows 3.11, Windows 95, Red Hat Linux 6.0
 Web Page
 
http://www.parallels.ru
 Download the trial of twoOStwo at:
 
http://195.151.199.52/files/twoOStwo-trial.exe
c'e' nessuno che l'ha provato ?
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Alessandro Cantatore

 
No. A me, nel caso, servirebbe il contrario :-)
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 solo il contrario) NON comprarlo, ed aspetta una settimana.
Una settimana č domani?
Piersante (che č un mese che aspetta..)

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an...@rgs.ru
 (AndrO) wrote:
Hi AndrO
 >Sorry I don't understand exactly what do you mean. But in my opinion
 >twoOStwo is a good product! First version already faster then Connectix
 >VirtualPC!!! But as I know a new unpublished twoOStwo version is 2 times
 >faster! So, russians are not so bad:)
Antonio was just complaining of the fact he cannot understand
Russian language web pages (nobody was complaining about Russian people)
I think many people in this list would be interested to try twoOStwo
if it is so fast, but would be even more interested if an OS/2
version (i.e. using OS/2 as host) were available
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 version (i.e. using OS/2 as host) were available
Hi Alessandro,
1. Thank you for the explanation! But 
www.parallels.ru
 available on both
english and russian. If you want to learn more about twoOStwo product you
should go directly to 
http://www.parallels.ru
 - its a english version of
site. Or if you want more technical details - send a request on
sa...@parallels.ru
.
2. Current demo version prepared from 2os2 version 2.0. I have done
perfomance test both with this version and Connectix VirtualPC 4.3. In my
opinion twoOStwo is faster from 1.1 to 1.6 times on different tests (OS/2
v4 installation, Netscape Navigator installation an so on). But as I know
twoOStwo 2.1 is coming and its performance 1.5 - 2 times better than
twoOStwo 2.0 (i didn't tested it yet, but developers told me so).
3. About OS/2 as a host version - I've heard it is also in the development
plans because in spite of strong focus to the OS/2 as guest the
virtualization technology is portable.
4. twoOStwo is not out-of-box product at the current moment (but is going
to be:) and developing by order of some german companies which was
interested in migration tool from OS/2 to Win. So, this was the first goal,
but now product becoming more and more than just migration tool:)
PS: I've read you news thread using on-line Italian - Russian translator
and it's really difficult to get the exact meaning this way:)
Best regards,
Andrey Omeliyanchuk
E-mail: 
an...@rgs.ru
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 faster! So, russians are not so bad:)
I was not talking about russians.... i was talking about Web Pages' 
language. The first time i was looking at twoOStwo, i had many 
troubles
trying to find out informations about that product as i was
not eable to understand Russian. That's all. I'm thinking that the 
english
site version has been added later....
Now, i'm still looking for an OS/2 version ;-)
Regards,


, 
an...@rgs.ru
 (AndrO) wrote:
 >1. Thank you for the explanation! But 
www.parallels.ru
 available on both
 >english and russian. If you want to learn more about twoOStwo product you
 >should go directly to 
http://www.parallels.ru
 - its a english version of
 >site. Or if you want more technical details - send a request on
 >
sa...@parallels.ru
.
I think I succeeded in getting to the English version of the site
and also downloaded the demo (unfortunately never had the time to
test it)
I don't know why Antonio didn't find the English page
 >2. Current demo version prepared from 2os2 version 2.0. I have done
 >perfomance test both with this version and Connectix VirtualPC 4.3. In my
 >opinion twoOStwo is faster from 1.1 to 1.6 times on different tests (OS/2
 >v4 installation, Netscape Navigator installation an so on). But as I know
 >twoOStwo 2.1 is coming and its performance 1.5 - 2 times better than
 >twoOStwo 2.0 (i didn't tested it yet, but developers told me so).
as I'm still quite busy I'll wait for 2.1 to test the program...
BTW how much do they sell it ?
 >3. About OS/2 as a host version - I've heard it is also in the development
 >plans because in spite of strong focus to the OS/2 as guest the
 >virtualization technology is portable.
that's good... I hope they will also make a version for linux
 >PS: I've read you news thread using on-line Italian - Russian translator
 >and it's really difficult to get the exact meaning this way:)
those automatic translators give funny results most of times
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 that's good... I hope they will also make a version for linux
Linux version are also in the development plan:) But implementation is
strongly depend of investment money. And I don't know exactly which plans
is more important for investors:(
PS: I'm not from Parallels team, but I am very interested in the product
future and I have some direct connections with the developers.
Best Regards,
AndrO
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, 
an...@rgs.ru
 (AndrO) wrote:
 >All commercial rights belongs to NetSys GmbH. There are no direct sales to
 >physical persons now :( (but I hope it will be in the future). Price to
 >organizations is based on contract details (and lay in the range from 100
 >to 300 EURO). If you think about possible commersial using of twoOStwo
 >please send a request to 
sa...@parallels.ru
that's not much different from VPC or VMWARE... of course if the
performances are really better and it offers a greater compatibility
it could be a winner
thank you for your informations
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Alessandro Cantatore

Alessandro Cantatore wrote:
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There are some difference. As I told you above twoOStwo comes as solution,
not as the product at the moment. And Parallels and NetSys own a flexible
virtualization technology and offers it like a platform to fit any
corporate customers needs. Any specific customer needs could be
implemented on the contract base. 
My company - ROSGOSTRAKH (russian insurance company) has a lot of legacy
application for more than 8 different OSes in more than 2000 branches. And
we think about special solution based on twoOStwo for migration all
branches to Win2000. And we have a lot of special requirements which
doesn't provided by both VPC and VMWARE. This is the differnce.
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 Perfect for Warez distribution... :-/
In my opinion this situation comes because of the product is still in
development and not ready for out-of-box distribution. But if they found
interest on the market - they will prepare out-of-box version for wide
distribution. Or may be freeware version with some functional limitation...
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