Newsgroup: it.discussioni.auto.ford
Titolo: Possible Vehicle Fraud - Similar Story? CBC MArketplace Wants To Hear  From You

HAVE YOU BEEN THE VICTIM OF A POSSIBLE FRAUD IN RELATION TO THE PURCHASE
OF A VEHICLE.
HERE'S MY STORY....
I bought a 2000 Ford Expedition in October 2000 from Wood Motors in
Halifax.
I was told it was a "demo" and had been driven only by John
Gwynne-Timothy's wife during the first 19,000 km. This was the mileage
that was on the vehicle when I bought it.
A "demo" is able to be sold as a new vehicle and that happens all the
time. A vehicle that has only ever been owned by a manufacturer or a
dealer qualifies as a new vehicle. All others qualify as used vehicles.
In October 2000, I was sold this "demo" as a new vehicle, and I
purchased a new vehicle extended (ESP) warranty with it.
In 2002, I had a problem with a broken tie rod, which Ford fixed. In
2003, I experienced major engine repair problems and Ford would not fix
it under warranty. After conducting a bit of research I determined that
my vehicle was not a "demo" but rather had been owned by Avis prior to
me purchasing it. Instead of being driven by just one person (as I had
been promised), it is possible that it had been driven by as many as 200
people prior to me purchasing it.
Since finding this information out, I have contacted Ford, Wood Mortors
Ford (which is now Steele Ford Lincoln), John Gwynne-Timothy (who used
to own Wood Mortors and whose wife I had been told was the driver of my
vehicle for the first 19,000 km) and I have received no satisfaction
regarding this misrepresentation that have been the victim of.
I have contacted the Halifax Police Department to file a possible fraud
complaint and I was laughed at by the commissionaire, who told me that
he used to be in the car business and that sort of stuff goes on all the
time. Whether they are doing any investigation or not now is unknown by
me. I have filed the complaint.
I have a website at "
http://www.woodmotors.info
" with copies of my
paperwork that depicts the injustice that I hve suffered so far. I have
also included various court cases regarding similar cases in other part
of the Country (including a very large criminal fraud case in Ontario
with similar circumstances).
Because all parties point the finger at the other..., and because John
Gwynne-Timothy absolutely refuses to contact me at all (afterall, it is
he who could clear the air regarding who should be responsible)...., I
have contacted various outside agencies that may be interested in this
story.
The Automobile Protection Association and CBC Marketplace are interested
in the story. This is obviously an example of a possible scam that is
quite common at certain automobile dealerships. If you go to my site and
click through to the Court Cases, you will find them to be quite an
interesting read.
If you feel that you have been ripped off in a similar fashion and would
like to tell you story, please drop me a line.I will be having a
discussion with Marketplace producers this coming week and I would like
to be able to provide additional information.
Check your glovebox for a sticker that may have been used by a car
rental agency to identify your car in their inventory. It is a barcode
sticker. Do not peel it off, as the black could stay on the glove box
plastic and only the clear tape will come off. Take a picture, if you
suspect one.
Anyways, check out my site and let me know if you feel you are a victim
of a possible rip-off.
David
lo...@woodmotors.info
PS    I have heard that John Gwynne-Timothy is about to open a new
dealership in Kentville, and that he is assisting another Ford operation
in Windsor.
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 HERE'S MY STORY....
Well... if you could read messages written in Italian, you could see another 
story of clocked car sales here in Italy.
Dealers (and people in general...) are the same everywhere...
Some dealers here sell used rental cars as "company cars" - this for many 
persons means "used by dealer employees or for demonstration use", while the 
reality is "owned by a rental fleet company"
The difference is not so subtle.
At least, nobody here refers to "used cars" as with the term "previously 
owned" which is really laughable!
Checking the vehicle's owner history here in Italy is a 5 minutes/5 Euros 
matter, using the Mot site. Most dealers don't keep the car's documents 
inside the glovebox as this increases the risk of theft and as the "green" 
registration card can be used to ask financing for used vehicles at most 
banks.
Many times, a good deal on a brand new car can be just a few hundred Euros 
above the price for the typical used car - no matter the source.
**
se avessi potuto leggere i messaggi in italiano, vedresti un'altra storia di 
vetture con il contaKm "risistemato" qui in Itlia.
I concessionari (e la gente, in generale) sono simili dappertutto.
Alcuni concessionari qui vendono vetture "aziendali" - un termine che per 
molti significa "usate da dipendenti della concessionaria o per uso demo" 
mentre sono vetture "di una azienda di noleggio"-
La differenza è notevole.
Almeno qui c'è il buon gusto di non parlare di auto "precedentemente 
prossedute" invece che di "usato"
Controllare la storia dei proprietari della vettura è una questione da 5 
minuti e 5 Euro. Alcuni concessionari non tengono i documenti nella vettura 
in quanto questo aumenta i rischi di furto e il libretto può essere dato in 
pegno per finanziare lo stock dell'usato.
Spesso un buon prezzo su una macchina nuova è di pochi Euro più alto di 
quello di una macchina usata  - indifferentemente dalla fonte.
-- 
AndreaRP
andr...@despammed.com
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AndreaRP
andr...@despammed.com
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