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Ciao
sentivo ieri alla radio che si era chiuso il processo e la M$ ha accettato 
di fare non so che roba... qualcosa tipo rendere pubblica la sua tecnologia 
per favorire la concorrenza... questo cosa vuol dire? Che pubblicheranno 
sorgenti o documentazioni anche sulle win32api?
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 sorgenti o documentazioni anche sulle win32api?
Capirai...Per loro è il danno minore.
Credi che questo cambierà molto le cose ? Resteranno un'azienda unita, un
enorme svantaggio per competitors e consumataori ( secondo me ).
Possono anche rendere pubblico tutto il codice sorgente , tanto se ne
usciranno presto con qualcosa di nuovo, sicuramente incompatibile con i
prodotti precedenti.
Hanno quattrini e appoggi sufficienti per fare quello che vogliono. Se il
caso si risolve davvero così, perdonatemi, ma è stata tutta una
pagliacciata.
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U.S. Reaches Settlement with Microsoft
By Peter Kaplan
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq:MSFT - news) and the U.S.
Justice Department (news - web sites) on Friday announced a settlement in
their three-year-old antitrust case, with the software giant accepting
restrictions on its business practices but avoiding harsher penalties.
The pact, which must be endorsed by a federal judge, gives computer makers
freedom to feature software made by companies other than Microsoft, and
requires Microsoft to share the inner workings of its Windows operating
system with other software makers.
Although the business restrictions are a far cry from splitting the company
in two, a remedy sought under the administration of President Bill Clinton,
attorneys general from some of the 18 states that joined the government suit
saw merit in the settlement.
Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates (news - web sites) called the pact ``fair and
reasonable,'' and U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft (news - web sites)
said the agreement would end ``unlawful conduct'' by the company. A number
of Wall Street analysts called the agreement a ``win'' for Microsoft.
Microsoft shares, which jumped more than 6 percent on Thursday on reports of
a tentative settlement, see-sawed around the unchanged level in Friday trade
on the Nasdaq stock market. Shares closed down 44 cents, or 0.71 percent, to
$61.40.
If approved, the settlement would end a legal battle in which Microsoft was
found to have illegally maintained a monopoly in personal computer operating
systems.
The agreement aims to rewrite the rules of the computer business so that
consumers will be able to buy machines loaded with a variety of different
software, not just those features that are preselected by Microsoft, the
Justice Department said.
The settlement would allow computer manufacturers to work with other
software developers and place their products on Microsoft's Windows system,
and would prevent the software giant from punishing anyone who makes or uses
competing products, the Justice Department said.
It would require Microsoft to provide software developers with the
interfaces necessary to inter-operate with Windows. The company would also
have to offer uniform licensing terms to key computer makers.
Also, Microsoft will have to modify its new Windows XP (news - web sites)
operating system within a matter of months so that software can be added and
deleted by consumers and computer makers, the department said.
The pact ``will put an end to Microsoft's unlawful conduct and bring
effective relief to the marketplace and ensure that consumers will have more
choices in meeting their needs of computing and working with their
computers,'' Ashcroft told a news conference.
'A WIN FOR MICROSOFT'
Gates said the settlement would impose some tough rules and restrictions on
the company's business but resolving the case now was the right thing to do.
``The settlement is fair and reasonable and, most important, is in the best
interests of consumers and the economy,'' Gates said in a statement.
Alan Loewenstein, a portfolio co-manager at John Hancock Technology Fund,
which owns shares in Microsoft, said the proposed settlement looked very
favorable to the company.
``It's the best thing for the company. They didn't split the company up.
They didn't say you have to unbundle things,'' said Loewenstein.
Drew Brosseau, an analyst at SG Cowen, said: ``I don't think it can be
viewed as anything but a win for Microsoft.''
The Justice Department said the restrictions on Microsoft would be in effect
for five years and may be extended for an additional two years if the judge
finds the company engaged in multiple violations of the agreement.
Computer makers and consumers would be allowed to substitute competing
software on the Windows system, according to the settlement.
Microsoft would be banned from signing agreements with software makers and
computer manufacturers that require exclusive support or development of
Microsoft software. This will allow rival manufacturers to work with
Microsoft and at the same time support and develop rival products.
The pact would require Microsoft to have a panel of three independent,
on-site, full-time computer experts to help enforce the settlement.
Rivals said they were unhappy with the proposed deal because it would not in
their view promote competition and protect consumers.
``The proposed settlement fails to fulfill the promise of the unanimous
decision from the U.S. Court of Appeals condemning Microsoft's extensive
illegal conduct and requiring an effective remedy to prevent its
reoccurrence,'' said Paul Cappuccio, general counsel for Internet giant AOL
Time Warner Inc. (NYSE:AOL - news).
STATES SEEN JOINING
At a hearing on Friday, District Court Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly granted
the states until Tuesday to examine the settlement.
Three of the state attorneys general who have been the most critical of
Microsoft after the hearing praised the idea of a settlement and said they
would present it to the other states over the next few days.
Iowa Attorney General Tom Miller said outside the court that ``there is
optimism'' about joining the settlement, but he said there were no
guarantees.
The attorneys general of Connecticut and New York sounded a similar note.
``This settlement reaches results now, in real time, well before any
litigation would have produced results,'' said Connecticut Attorney General
Richard Blumenthal. ``It holds the prospect for making the market in this
industry more competitive, enabling and enhancing innovation, benefiting
consumers in very real and significant ways.''
Antitrust experts said the states are under pressure to go along with the
Justice Department deal and would be unlikely to get a tougher remedy on
their own, they said.
Kollar-Kotelly had pressed the government and the company to settle the
case. She ordered the two sides into intensive settlement talks on Sept. 28,
saying a quick resolution of the case had become more important ``in light
of the recent tragic events affecting our nation'' -- a reference to the
Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington.
The attorneys general said last month's attacks had indeed added a sense of
urgency to the settlement talks.
``The world changed on Sept. 11,'' Blumenthal said. ``The war abroad, the
threats at home, the cloud on our economy have created a very powerful
dynamic for resolving the issues in this case.''
The case returned to the district court after an appeals court in June
agreed that Microsoft had used its monopoly in personal computer operating
systems illegally. But the appeals court reversed an order by trial court
Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson that would have split the company in two.
At his press conference, Ashcroft rejected any suggestion that the
settlement was weak.
``We believe that this settlement is a very strong settlement and that it
not only encompasses the relief that was signaled by the court of appeals
but that this has additional safeguards,'' Ashcroft said.
Most of the original case against Microsoft focused on the tactics the
company used to drive rival Netscape Communications Corp. out of the market
for Internet browsers, but the trial became a broad examination of the
company's business practices.
Some analysts warn that the legal fallout from the trial is not over for
Microsoft. The findings of the federal courts can be used by private parties
in suits against the company.
``We remind investors that it's not over yet. Microsoft still has legal
proceedings with other jurisdictions,'' said J.P. Morgan Securities analyst
Chris Galvin.
Microsoft shares have risen about 50 percent this year but remain below
their 52-week high of $76.15.
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 questo cosa vuol dire?
Nel frattempo, vuol dire che *questi stronzi*  hanno *di nuovo*
cambiato il fottutissimo formato di Word...
Obelix

 dynamic for resolving the issues in this case.''
..dal che si evince che e' stata Micro$oft a commissionare l'attacco 
alle TwinTowers...
Strano che tutte le volte che gli USA sono in una recessione scoppi 
una guerra...
1945, Vietnam, Iraq...
-- 
Saluti, Stefano.
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,
s_technology##NOSBARI##@
lycos.it
 (Stefano) wrote:
 >Strano che tutte le volte che gli USA sono in una recessione scoppi 
 >una guerra...
la guerra e' prima di tutto e da sempre un grosso business
e gli usa spendono + di tutti in spese militari...
-- 
bye
Alessandro Cantatore

E proprio Mon, 12 Nov 2001 06:43:17, a         @
tin.it
 (Alessandro 
Cantatore) venne in mente di scrivere:
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chissa' come si sono inca**ati quando i Mujahiddin sono entrati a 
Kabul in cosi' poco tempo...
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,
s_technology##NOSBARI##@
iol.it
 (Stefano) wrote:
 >chissa' come si sono inca**ati quando i Mujahiddin sono entrati a 
 >Kabul in cosi' poco tempo...
anche se in Afghanistan le cose sono tutt'altro che concluse
(non e' da escludersi che dopo la caduta delle ultime roccaforti
dei talebani, le varie fazioni componenti l'alleanza del nord non
comincino a farsi guerra tra loro) hanno gia' detto che hanno intenzione
di continuare con qualche altro paese... forse ancora non hanno deciso
quale, ma tanto la cosa + importante e' disfarsi delle scorte belliche
prima che diventino obsolete (chiedendo poi agli "alleati" di contribuire
alle spese) in modo da poterle presto rimpiazzare con armi + efficaci
gli usa sono tra i pochi paesi che non hanno firmato i trattati contro
la produzione delle mine antiuomo o delle armi batteriologiche per chi
ancora non lo sapesse... se fossero coerenti, visto che tra i loro
obiettivi prioritari ci sono i paesi produttori di armi batteriologiche,
dovrebbero bombarsi da soli :-)
P.S. mi scuso per l'OT... ma non ho saputo resistere...
-- 
bye
Alessandro Cantatore

 Kabul in cosi' poco tempo...
Stefano,
mi spiace contraddirti ma credo che i Mujahiddin non sarebbero _mai_
entrati a Kabul senza le spalle coperte dagli americani...E senza le
difese dei Talibani ridotte al lumicino dai bombardamenti.
Agli americani non importa che i Mujahiddin si prendano il merito
dell'impresa o meno. Questo gli toglie responsabilità, nel bene e nel
male.
Riccardo

cambiato il fottutissimo formato di Word...
Lo cambiano a _ogni_ versione. Forse dovrebbero obbligarlo a non fare
cambiamenti fini a se stessi e senza vantaggi che non esistano solo
negli spot ..... ma cosi' non uscirebbe piu' una nuova versione di
_qualsiasi_ prodotto ms per almeno un sei/sette anni :-P
Felice Claudio
-- 
Chi rinuncia alla liberta' per qualche briciola di sicurezza
non merita ne' la liberta', ne' la sicurezza.
(Franklin)

Lo cambiano a _ogni_ versione.
No, la *scorsa* non lo hanno cambiato, era rimasto quello di 97....
stranamente, eletto Bush, cambiato il formato (nel caso aveste dei
dubbi, ricordatevi che BGIII per ogni evenienza ha ampiamente
foraggiato *entrambi* i candidati alla presidenza...)
Obelix

,
rru...@galactica.it
 (Riccardo Rubini) wrote:
 >> chissa' come si sono inca**ati quando i Mujahiddin sono entrati a 
 >> Kabul in cosi' poco tempo...
 >
 >mi spiace contraddirti ma credo che i Mujahiddin non sarebbero _mai_
 >entrati a Kabul senza le spalle coperte dagli americani...E senza le
 >difese dei Talibani ridotte al lumicino dai bombardamenti.
 >
 >Agli americani non importa che i Mujahiddin si prendano il merito
 >dell'impresa o meno. Questo gli toglie responsabilità, nel bene e nel
 >male.
avete ragione entrambi: da un lato un po' si sono incazzati perche'
i loro piani erano stati scombinati, dall'altro non puo' che fargli
piacere che i muj... (troppo difficile da scrivere ;-) ) si prendano
la responsabilita' anche se dubito che questo possa fargli guadagnare
qualche nuova amicizia nel mondo islamico (o altrove)
per quanto mi riguarda, l'amicizia a livello di singole persone
possono pure averla...
a livello di paese, se non cambiano radicalmente la loro politica,
sicuramente no (il che equivale a dire mai)
-- 
bye
Alessandro Cantatore

No, la *scorsa* non lo hanno cambiato, era rimasto quello di 97....
Sara', ma sono capitati alcuni documenti fatti con word2000
illeggibili con word97.
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Qui c'e' un bell'articolo dell'Economist sull'argomento:
http://www.economist.com/agenda/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=903957
Pare che la situazione non sia poi cosi' rosea per lo zio Bill...
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ciao
Gabriele