Newsgroup: it.comp.hardware.palmari
Titolo: Palm Yanoff 3.0 disponibile

Ecco le novita' (copio ed incollo):
* Hi-Res, non-square, full/wide, and landscape (rotated) screen support
* Selectible fonts (including full Fonts4OS5 and FontSubst compatibility)
* Context-sensitive, user-definable actions for FiveWay and JogDial controls
* Progress dialogs and cancel/defer/resume ability for long operations
* Thread caching for radical speed increases in article threading
* Killfile and other Anti-SPAM features
* Authenticated login support for SMTP
* Global Find support
* SentBox option

FINALMENTE!
Impressioni ?
E' sempre cosi' macchinoso ?
O e' al pari del blasonato e da tempo abbandonato tnews del croato ?
ciao
Adriano 

 O e' al pari del blasonato e da tempo abbandonato tnews del croato ?
E' meglio di TuNews dal punto di vista funzionale, ma quest'ultimo piu' user 
friendly... (simile a QusnetSoft per PPC). Ma tu non eri betatester 
ufficiale di quel prodotto unico ed innovativo? :-))))))))))
Ciaoooo!!!
Gianvi 

 O e' al pari del blasonato e da tempo abbandonato tnews del croato ?
Provato ora...
Prima impressione: ma era troppo faticoso disegnare un'icona decente dico 
io?
No perche' nel 2005 ritrovarsi nel launcher icone non solo Low-Res, ma pure 
in B/N,
mi pare la massima espressione del programma sfigato e dilettantesco.
Ma si sono accorti che ormai tutti i f**T*T* palmari in commercio
utilizzano lo schermo a colori??
Va bene che non si giudica un software dall'aspetto, ma allora continuiamo 
tutti a comprarci
Palm V usati...
Seconda impressione: lancio il programma,e noto quanto l'interfaccia sia 
obsoleta e brutta.
Provo a inserire un newsserver, poco dopo il programma mi manda in crash il 
palmare.
A questo punto,a maggior ragione dopo aver intuito dagli screenshoot che non 
incolonna i post
in modo gerarchico per thread, la mia pazienza e' davvero 
finita.Disinstallato ora, meno di un minuto
dopo averlo avviato.
Saro' un po' nervosetto in questi giorni (3 esami in tre giorni di cui uno 
sabato mattina, sapete com'e'...mi
mancano gli ultimi esami per la laurea quindi sono un po' incasinato) ma 
perdere il mio tempo cosi'...
E questo sarebbe un programma A PAGAMENTO? Francamente non gli darei una 
lira,
anzi ma nemmeno pirata lo terrei, anzi rincariamo la dose...nemmeno se 
quelli di Yanoff pagassero me per
tenerlo installato sul Palm lo userei (cioe' dipende da che cifra :-) )
TuNews sembrava carino, ma possibile che sia stato abbandonato ? ;-( 

il link č questo, vero? 
www.palmyanoff.com/download.htm
Matteo. 

 tenerlo installato sul Palm lo userei (cioe' dipende da che cifra :-)
)
I do not speak Itallian (I don't even know if I spelled the word
"Itallian" correctly) but hopefully somebody in here speaks some
English.  From what I gather you are having trouble configuring or
using New Yanoff.  That concerns us greatly and we would like to
understand just what it is that is confusing or broken and what you
would like to see us change to make it simpler or work better.  The
thing that has amazed me is that this NG has NOTHING but complaints and
bad things to say about New Yanoff and yet never has anyone ever
attempted to contact us or file a bug report or suggest a
change/improvement.  How in the world can you expect us to fix things
if you do not bother to report that you have a problem?  We would VERY
MUCH like to make 3.1 something everyone in this newsgroup would like
to use and enthusiastically support but that certainly will not happen
if somebody who speaks English does not take action to let us know what
needs to be done.  Please forgive my interruption to your non-English
discussion...
Do you want a good Usenet Newsreader?
THEN PLEASE help us make one!

 if you do not bother to report that you have a problem?
Ok, my english is very bad, but I will try to expose some problems.
For two times, Yanoff is crashed (requiring a soft reset) when subscribing a 
newsgroup (I have a TH55).
But this is not the real problem.
I think that a PalmOS newsreader dont needs many features (like 
killfile,find...or SMTP support -there are many very good emal
clients for PalmOS,in most cases for free,because in bundle with the PDA-), 
but IMHO
a newsreader that cannot group messages by thread is useless.
Then, almost all but very entry level PalmOS device have a colour, high 
resolution display. I spent many money to have
a better display (from 160x160 b/w, to 160x160 65k,then 320x320 and now 
480x320), and today in 2005 a commercial
product with a b/w,low-res icon and minimalist interface/graphics (no 
threads tree, buttons with abbreviations instead of icons...)
it is not a good idea.
If you need inspiration, you can take a look to TuNews 
(
http://makeashorterlink.com/?X28051B5A
)
It is an unfinished,beta and buggy newsreader for PalmOS and it is far away 
from perfection.
But it is much more promising than Yanoff, in my opinion.
I hope this dont offend you, I know that a program like Yanoff require many 
hours (and days) of hard work,
but today PalmOS PDA are powerful, and we are accustomed to very complex 
programs,with many
advanced funtions,graphics etc...(Documents To Go, SnapperMail, some 
impressive games...); Yanoff looks like
a very old and amateurish program when is compared to best PalmOS software; 
this can be ok for a freeware software,
but IMHO not for a commercial product.
Maybe a good thing for you (but is a bad thing for the users), but the only 
chance of success for Yanoff if the complete
lack of alternatives (TuNews has been abandoned I think). :-(
Sorry again for my bad english, and I hope you will make a good newsreader 
in the future...

 a newsreader that cannot group messages by thread is useless.
Subscribe.
Fabrizio (awaiting a "new" version)