Newsgroup: it.fan.musica.rem
Titolo: archeologia R.E.M.

ho letto un articolo su una rivista che parlava del fatto che google
(
www.google.com
) ha indicizzato in pratica tutti i messaggi di tutti i
newsgroup dagli anni 80. e nell'articolo facevano vedere alcuni messaggi
"storici" che si riuscivano a trovare (ad esempio quello in cui tim
berners-lee annunciava la creazione del web).
ho provato a cercare il primo messaggio in cui si parla dei R.E.M.
il più vecchio che ho trovato è questo:
Da:uw-beave!eli (uw-beave!eli)
Soggetto:New Music Chart (11/29/82)
Newsgroups:net.records
Data:1982-12-12 09:43:24 PST
Ok, as promised, here are some of PM's New Music Reports...  FYI: The New
Music reports are a supplement to CMJ Progressive Media magazine, published
by CMI Media, 185 Willis Ave., Lower Level, Mineola, NY  11501.
Chart for November 29, 1982:
COLLEGE/NON-COMMERCIAL RADIO
 1.  Peter Gabrial
 2.  Psychedelic Furs
 3.  English Beat
 4.  Clash
 5.  Adam Ant
 6.  Missing Persons
 7.  Yaz
 8.  R.E.M.
 9.  Dire Straits
 10. The Who
 11. Wall of Voodoo
 12. Joe Jackson
 13. Romeo Void
 14. ABC
 15. Stray Cats
 16. The Jam
 17. Men At Work
 18. Toni Basil
 19. Iggy Pop
 20. Gary Numan
 21. Devo
 22. Bruce Springsteen
 23. Billy Joel
 24. Lords of the New Chruch
 25. A Flock of Seagulls
 26. Translator
 27. Summers/Fripp
 28. Elvis Costello
 29. Bow Wow Wow
 30. Gun Club
 31. Talk Talk
 32. The Blasters
 33. Berlin
 34. Pat Benatar
 35. Rush
 36. Utopia
 37. Icehouse
 38. Donald Fagen
 39. Magazine
 40. X
 41. Hall & Oates
 42. Fashion
 43. Duran Duran
 44. Don Henley
 45. November Group
 46. Billy Idol
 47. Captain Beefheart
 48. Barry Reynolds
 49. Bill Nelson
 50. Boomtown Rats
 51. Girlschool
 52. Billy Squier
 53. Prince
 54. Pete Townshend
 55. Brains
 56. Jefferson Starship
 57. Steve Winwood
 58. Shriedback
 59. Linda Ronstadt
 60. Gang of Four
 61. Bauhaus
 62. Simple MInds
 63. Roches
 64. Santana
 65. Phil Collins
 66. Individuals
 67. Go-Go's
 68. Adrian Belew
 69. Heaven 17
 70. Dream Syndicate
 71. Altered IMages
 72. Associates
 73. Robert Plant
 74. Kate Bush
 75. Supertramp
 76. Roxy Music
 77. Shoes
 78. Modern English
 79. The Fixx
 80. George Thorogood
 81. David Lindley
 82. Warren Zevon
 83. Au Pairs
 84. John Cougar
 85. James White and the Blacks
 86. Fear Of Strangers
 87. Grandmaster Flash
 88. Jerry Garcia
 89. Haircut 100
 90. Oingo Boingo
 91. Fleetwood Mac
 92. Joni Mitchell
 93. Lene Lovich
 94. Mission of Burma
 95. Pretenders
 96. James Blood Ulmer
 97. Captain Sensible
 98. Tom Petty
 99. Steel Breeze
 100. Flash and the Pan
Whew!  There are lots of other charts available in this newsletter...
 * Top 100 Commercial Radio LP's
 * Top 65 Jazz LP's
 * Top Singles
 * Top Imports
 * Top Album Cuts
 * Audience Response (Most Requested)
 * MTV Charts
 * Club Play
 * Retail Charts
If I get enough response, I might consider wasting even more time hacking
these into the machine.  Let me know what you want.
   ... uw-beaver!eli
un altro molto "antico" che ho trovato (e che parla effettivamente dei
R.E.M.) è questo:
Da:Grady Toss (e...@ucbingres.ARPA)
Soggetto:Quizzes/Reviews/Return Addresses/Remote Postings/Tedium/REM
Newsgroups:net.music
Data:1985-07-22 14:57:05 PST
Yes, well, our remote posting software still seems to put the wrong
address in the `sender:' line, although it is getting the right one
in the `reply-to:' field, so... if you're replying to my quiz--this
is of course assuming that it managed to be received by anyone beyond
the confines of my terminal, pls. be sure to route it to . . .
 ...ucbvax!ucbingres!ebm
or,
 ebm%ucbi...@ucbvax.arpa
or something like that.
So as to make this posting slightly less than content free (from my
perspective anyway), let me give a capsule review of REM at UC Berkeley's
Greek Theater this past Saturday, 7/20.
This is the second time I've seen them--the last time in a venue about
1/8 the size.  No matter though as they perform with enough ``it'' to
fill a large hall.  This is the only band I can think of that has a real
group feel.  No singer with a backing band and a guitarist that steps
out to take his solo here and there.  Michael Stipe (vocals) spends only
a small amount of time standing front and center singing... instead he
moves around like an instrumentalist (ok, voice=instrument), dragging
his microphone stand around with him.  Guitarist Peter Buck does a fair
impression (gymnastics wise) of Pete Townshend, minus the windmill slashes
at the strings.  Bassist Mike Mills sings some nice harmonies, and the
drummer (Bill Berry) plays a bit too loud--or they amplify him too much,
whichever.  Lots of material from their latest LP, plus tracks from all
three of their previous 12"ers and two covers--``Who'll Stop The Rain''
(CCR) and ``See No Evil'' (Television).  The latter was sadly lacking
Tom Verlaine's guitar signature, but still it was nice.
... gt
--
magoparanoico
http://magoparanoico.tripod.com
http://magopa...@perfectcircle.remfriends.com
"Somewhere we have bodies, very far away, in a crowded loft roofed with
steel and glass.
Somewhere we have microseconds, maybe time left to pull out."

ho trovato un'altra recensione di concerto ancora più vecchia:
Da:Eli Messinger (eli@uw-june)
Soggetto:Re: R.E.M. on tour (Seattle)
Newsgroups:net.music
View: (This is the only article in this thread) | Original Format
Data:1984-06-28 13:59:40 PST
Very quickly:  R.E.M. in Seattle were terrific.  Lead singer Michael Stype
spent most of the show sitting on a stool--due to a foot injury, and still
managed to blow away most vocalists I've seen recently.
R.E.M. live encompasses all of the power and all of the ringy pop sound that
they have on record, and more.   Their set was over an hour long, with two
four song encores.
Highlights (for me):  Camera; 1,000,000; Gardening At Night; Carnival of
Sorts (Boxcars); >So You Want To Be A Rock 'n' Roll Star<.
The last is particularly intriguing as R.E.M. has been stuck with a 'Byrds
1980' tag for so long.  I talked to the them before the show and they told
me that they really haven't been influenced all that much by the Byrds.
I think the comparisons come mainly from the fact that guitarist Peter
Buck plays a Rickenbacker, and does have a style that is similar to
McGuinns.
They've denied the comparisons publicly all along, but apparently they just
got tired of it and decided to double-cross everyone, hence the MTV special
with Roger McGuinn, and the Byrds cover (he said they also do Turn! Turn!
Turn! and others).  (As an aside, listen to The Rain Parade if you want to
hear a really heavy Byrds inluence).
Lowlights (Lowlifes):  The Dream Syndicate.  What has happened to this
band???
They have such a heavy metal thrust to their sound--so much machismo.  Their
45-minute set consisted almost entirely of tracks from their latest LP--
which I could live without.  They did play 'Tell Me When It's Over' and
'Days Of Wine And Roses', but neither of them had the right feel for me.
Guitarist Karl Precorda is simply an embarassment these days--striking the
most ridiculous heavy metal poses.  They've added a keyboard player who is
quite good, but really out of place.
By all mean go see R.E.M., but try to time it so you arrive at intermission.
... uw-june!eli
proseguo nella ricerca...
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anche quest'altra è carina:
Da:w...@maxvax.UUCP (w...@maxvax.UUCP)
Soggetto:Unintelligible lyrics
Newsgroups:net.music
Data:1984-11-06 12:56:20 PST
During this discussion, I'm really surprised that no one
has mentioned that recent, punk-folk-hippie music band from
Athens, Georgia, R.E.M. They are one of the best bands of
the past few years, but I think a lot of people have trouble
enjoying their music because the lead singer's vocals are
not only slurred and heavily accented (Southern?), but they
are usually buried way down in the mix. The tunes have very
catchy melodies, with jangling guitars and harmonies, but it's
hard to "sing along" when you don't know what-the-heck is being
sung!
 Anyway, don't let this keep you away from this fine band's
music. There most recent album is "Reckoning", their first is called
"Murmer", their both available on IRS Records (wherever five records
are sold -): ), and I highly recommend them both.
Bill
...maxvax!wn
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bellissimi i messaggi che hai trovato!!!
certo che questo archivio di google groups e` una cosa incredibile...
com'e` incredibile che nella velocita` di internet si sia riusciti a
mantenere una copia di tutti i messaggi spediti in 20 anni...
a proposito, m'e` venuto in mente che lo scorso dicembre era stato
postato un messaggio su rec.music.rem con i links per trovare su google
groups i messaggi che Micheal aveva postato anni fa proprio su
rec.music.rem!! Il messaggio con i link l'ho ritrovato adesso su google
e dovreste potrelo aprire con questo indirizzo:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=stipe+google+group:rec.music.rem&hl=it
&scoring=r&selm=9v7lcm%24jcs%241%
40news01.cit.cornell.edu
&rnum=1
(ho dovuto spezzarlo in due righe se no non riuscivo a postarlo, dovete
riunirlo nella barra indirizzo del browser e speriamo funzioni!)
Se non dovesse funzionare, basta andare su 
groups.google.com
, cliccare
su "ricerca avanzata" e ricercare "stipe posts google" specificando di
cercare solo nel gruppo "rec.music.rem". Il messaggio in questione e`
del 12 dicembre 2001, dovrebbe essere il primo risultato della ricerca.
Francesco
-- 
Hey kids, rock and roll.
Nobody tells you where to go, baby.
[R.E.M. - "Drive"]

Ok, sei stato bravo. Ma adesso dimmi come si fa! :-D
--
"I'm so happy that I can't stop crying
I'm so happy I'm laughing through my tears "
"magoparanoico" <dpav...@NOSPAMPLEASElibero.it> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:0Ee98.46490$5M4.1...@twister2.libero.it...
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 Ok, sei stato bravo. Ma adesso dimmi come si fa! :-D
vai su google e fai una ricerca avanzata tra i gruppi.
piuttosto ti dovrei dire (ripetere) come si fa a quotare!

 piuttosto ti dovrei dire (ripetere) come si fa a quotare!
Lo so! Se solo mi applicassi di più, nella mia vita potrei ottenere qualche
soddisfazione.
Preferisco, tuttavia, schierarmi contro un sistema opprimente che vuole
omologare i comportamenti degli individui.
Quote libere per tutti!
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io l'ho trovato ma...siamo sicuri che sia stato proprio lui??? ;)
anita

 > Francesco
Grazie mille! Questa cosa è interessantissima! A livello di curiosità,
chiaramente... ;)
Miki
"...are we grown way too far
taking after rain
yellow like a geisha gown
denial all the way..."
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