Newsgroup: it.fan.musica.rem
Titolo: Fredda accoglienza a Seattle (Setlist prima sera)

19 November 2004 - McCaw Hall, Seattle, WA 
Finest Worksong
Begin the Begin
Wake Up Bomb
Animal
Boy in the Well
Cuyahoga
High Speed Train
Drive
The Outsiders
Imitation of Life
Aftermath
The One I Love
I Wanted to be Wrong
(Don't Go Back to) Rockville (Lead vocal: Mike)
Final Straw
Losing My Religion
Walk Unafraid
Life and How to Live It
ENCORE:
What's the Frequency, Kenneth
Sweetness Follows
Leaving New York
Permanent Vacation
I'm Gonna DJ
Man on the Moon
da murmurs
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Ok, just got back and I concur with all that's been posted - here's my
additions: (forgive spelling, I'm drunk, tired and horse)...
Four or maybe Five songs in Micheal jumped off stage and went straight
to the couple (seated !!!!!) front row center and said "Look you
better get up {and set an example} Peter is getting bummed out."
Enough of us were in the pit to hear it and we swelled forward. Mikey
Mills was also a bit incredulous with the amount of people sitting
initally. I was orginally third row pit but when I saw the movement my
friend and I got on the barrier, direct center in front of Stipe. I
mean absolutely dead center at his feet.(!) A couple of songs he would
have walked on my hands had I not pulled them back. It was very
interested to see him , up close, the broad gesturing that JMS does to
transmit a feeling or a emotion on a given lyric...He really does his
best to perform, and engage the audience. Alas....Oh jeez, I have to
say it...sadly the Seattle audience did not commit. YES, of course
many of us had a great time...we freaked out to Cuyohoga, Imitation of
Life had its requiste energy, Mikey singing Rockville was, for lack of
a better word, FUN , he really seemed HAPPY. 
I made a sign that said "(Box Cars)" in hope that they might tweak the
encore, JMS looked right at it and shook it off...I was bummed but had
to respect his choice. (Had to try...) I then got very self concious
that (and I forget his name) but the main JMS security guy with the
accent was staring right at me...and I felt bad for making a
sign...but before I got too bummed they played (the standard albeit
great) closers Permant Vaca and DJ and the energy was great and all
was forgotten.
Got to attend the post party at the Crocodile (Peter's wife owns) and
in addition to the band, Mr Eddie Vedder was there...eventually JMS
and EV where seated together talking right next to us..it was sort to
surreal all of these people kind of stealing glances but try ing to
act cool and non-chalant.
A couple of my (very cute) girlfriends took pix with Eddie, Peter,
Scott, Bill and Mike but not JMS...they kind of pressed they luck
trying to get one with both of them b/c Security fellow was
like...."look respect their space, I'll tell you if it's ok..." 
Anyway I know that's all random but it's all true - the other SUPER
COOL moment for me was recognizing, and saying Hi(!) to Bertis...I
just said Hello, I'm a 
murmurs.com
 member, and I really appreciate
your posts to REM.HQ...he was so very gracious, he said how psyched he
was to be gettng a good nights sleep (since Seattle is Sat also they
don't have to do much) He was just a very modest, nice guy, Just like
I had expected from the pix.
I also talked to Bob Whittaker who was super nice as always, my god
what an affable human being...but he echoed that it was a
dissapointing show from the crowd perspective...and I just have such a
greater appreciation for how fans play a reciprocal roll in a live
concert...if 90% of the folks sit on their fuc*ing hands, it does -
DOES affect the band(!)
Anyway, I'm about to fall on my lips...I hope through some unforseen
miracle Saturdays crowd will pay the respect, energy, and charisma
that R.E.M. deserves....
- Reeve
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The band was great, totally on, although Mills' vocals needed a boost
as well as the high freq's of Buck's guitar. They had tons of energy
and kept it up considering the crowd.
What a fucking lame ass crowd, although after living here for 4 years
I should really expect nothing more. The only time you get passion for
music anymore is if you are involved in the underground. Unfortunately
we have come to the portion of the REM road where so many fans are
just about 40 and they have no desire to do anything but sit on their
asses and watch the show like it's on TV. Now I can respect that not
everyone wants to jump up and down and be crazy but can you at least
stand up and show some support for this band that is giving up almost
a year of their life so we can all enjoy ourselves for one or two
nights!!! Seriously, I was bitched at by people tonight because I was
standing up and dancing! Almost EVERYONE in the whole hall was sitting
for the majority of the show. I just don't even know what to say. I
was extremely disappointed in the crowd, thankfully our boys are
strong enough to hold the entertainment level despite the crap crowd. 
Anyway tomorrow night I will be on the floor and hopefully it will be
better. I was extremely happy and surprised to hear Wake Up Bomb, one
of my faves.
Seattle needs to WAKE the fuck UP! so many times now I have seen this
kind of shit and it really bugs me, I dunno maybe I just need to move
to a REAL city! haha
Take care fellow Murmursians
TK-1
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Some interesting tidbits from the concert:
o Obviously it was a homecoming of sorts for Buck, McCaughey,
Stringfellow and Rieflin. Stipe introduced them near the end, but it
was a little odd when he emphasized "THEY LIVE IN YOUR CITY" like that
one woman in the movie "Better Off Dead" asking the French girl: "CAN
YOU SAY CHRISTMAS? CHRIST-MAS!" Stipe remarked: "It's like trying to
milk an octopus!"
o Stipe said "Boy in the Well" takes place in Tennessee.
o In the first half of the set, there seemed to be some commotion
onstage regarding the sound equipment, resulting in some odd moments
involving Stipe introducing the sound guy who works with them, Stipe
jumping off the stage into the front row, and Mike and Peter talking
to each other during the 2nd verse of Imitation of Life. Odd, but
apparently fixed. Yup, during Imitation of Life, Mills and Buck were
fiercely playing while talking, kind of looking like two bobblehead
dolls angled with their backs to us - it was quite charming actually,
without their intention of being charming.
o Bill Rieflin was brilliant.
o Stipe singing "Leaving New York": he sang "and what it brings"
wrong, forgetting to flat the B on the word "it." He corrected it the
next time around, hitting the B flat on "brilliant."
o Mike doing Rockville: Stipe motioning for the audience to clap their
hands. It was like a campfire, only in an opera house with a few
thousand people. Oh, and did anyone notice: Peter Buck sang harmonies
on all the choruses!
o Peter: at the end, he rolled on the floor all the way from stage
right to stage left, and then ran off!
o My favorite performances: HIGH SPEED TRAIN baby! It sound great
live! Aftermath sounds great live too. "I'm Gonna DJ" (inspired by the
WTO demonstrations) sounds like the record many Murmursians were
expecting.
o AUDIENCE: Mostly middle-aged, or late young adult. Cheap seats:
mostly sitting down. More expensive seats: mostly standing up. A few
exceptions in either case. Some annoying people walking in and out of
seats towards the front. A mostly enchanted audience, watching one of
the greatest rock bands in history, playing in a city with so much
history in rock.
Final note: As for "going through the motions," based on what some
reviews in past concerts were saying, don't believe that stuff. They
never go through the motions live, not tonight, not ever. They play
with passion, they play with poise, and they play it well.
Ciao!
Vero - High Speed Train Jumpers #2
--
"If I've ever found a series of rules that worked, 
then I'd throw them away and try something different," 
P.Buck

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Ma chi glielo fa fare di andare in tour in America?
Ho già capito che il Perfect Square 2 non lo vedremo mai e chissà se avranno
voglia di fare altri tour (non necessariamente mondiali) in futuro :-(
Ciao,
Valentina

 Valentina
Secondo voi la tournee' per ora e' un fallimento?
qualcuno ha dati di presenze ai concerti ed eventuali tutto esaurito?
sui video di vh2 si vedeva che le date inglesi di febbraio erano gia' sold
out a settembre, come da noi...
ciao
max

 ciao
Beh, guarda caso si tratta di date inglesi...
Un'accoglienza del genere è vergognosa...ovvio che abbiano un bel ricordo di
Padova e che Pefect Square l'abbiano girato in un Paese europeo.
Per quanto mi riguarda sarò affettuosa con loro anche quando mi canteranno
High Speed Train.
Ciao,
Valentina

 Man on the Moon
Non so perchč ma queste scalette non mi esaltano....non c'era paragone 
con quella di Padova....insomma, secondo me mancano pezzi quali 
FallOnMe, IBelieve, Driver8, ITEOFWAWKI, cioč quei pezzi nč troppo rock 
nč troppo soft...Manca anche EverybodyHurts.
E GonnaDJ e PermanentVacation invce sono sempre lě....SweetnessFellows 
in mezzo alle ultime proprio non ce la vedo.
Spero che in Italia cambino un po' il programma. La speranza č l'ultima 
a morire.
CIAO
Paolo