Newsgroup: it.comp.giochi.simulatori.volo
Titolo: piani di volo auto-generati

ciao,
vorrei chiedervi un commento/aiuto sui piani di volo generati con FSNav e 
con RouteFinder (quello sul web).
Questo è il piano generato con FsNav:
#   Type:     Name:                                       Frequency: 
Course:  Dist.:  Time:
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    Depart:   Fiumicino [LIRF]                            ATC: 121.70 
0 nm  00:00
    Arrive:   Dublin Intl [EIDW]                          ATC: 124.52 
1053 nm  02:29
============================================================
    Aircraft: Airbus A320
    Cruise:   291 kts
============================================================
1   Depart:   Fiumicino - Rwy 25                          ATC : 121.70 
0 nm  00:00
              --> Climb to 32000 feet.
2   Waypoint: Intersection [D239A] 
249°    2 nm  00:00
3   Waypoint: Intersection [D291H] 
298°    7 nm  00:01
4   Waypoint: Intersection [OST26] 
291°   18 nm  00:03
5   Waypoint: Intersection [MEDAL] 
291°   15 nm  00:02
6   Waypoint: Intersection [ELB38] 
314°   21 nm  00:03
7   Waypoint: Intersection [GILIO] 
310°    6 nm  00:00
8   Waypoint: ELBA [ELB]                                  VOR : 114.70 
314°   32 nm  00:04
9   Waypoint: Intersection [NORNI] 
332°   38 nm  00:05
11  Waypoint: Intersection [BELEL] 
331°   19 nm  00:02
12  Waypoint: Intersection [SPEZI] 
331°   15 nm  00:01
13  Waypoint: Intersection [IDONA] 
331°   14 nm  00:01
14  Waypoint: Intersection [LUKIM] 
331°   11 nm  00:01
15  Waypoint: GENOA [GEN]                                 VOR : 112.80 
331°   20 nm  00:02
16  Waypoint: Intersection [TONDA] 
320°   55 nm  00:07
17  Waypoint: Intersection [PIMOT] 
319°   32 nm  00:04
18  Waypoint: Intersection [AOSTA] 
320°   24 nm  00:03
19  Waypoint: Intersection [MOLUS] 
326°   48 nm  00:06
20  Waypoint: Intersection [GALBI] 
310°   28 nm  00:03
21  Waypoint: Intersection [TUROM] 
315°   10 nm  00:01
22  Waypoint: DIJON LONGVIC [DJL]                         VOR : 111.45 
308°   44 nm  00:05
23  Waypoint: Intersection [TUNOR] 
317°   53 nm  00:06
24  Waypoint: Intersection [LAULY] 
316°   24 nm  00:03
25  Waypoint: BRAY [BRY]                                  VOR : 114.10 
316°   22 nm  00:02
26  Waypoint: COULOMMIERS [CLM]                           VOR : 112.90 
340°   29 nm  00:03
27  Waypoint: Intersection [UTELA] 
333°    4 nm  00:00
28  Waypoint: Intersection [KOPOR] 
334°   42 nm  00:05
29  Waypoint: Intersection [ABUDA] 
329°   44 nm  00:05
30  Waypoint: Intersection [DIMAL] 
331°   27 nm  00:03
31  Waypoint: Intersection [ALESO] 
317°    7 nm  00:00
32  Waypoint: Intersection [TIGER] 
320°   42 nm  00:05
33  Waypoint: BIGGIN [BIG]                                VOR : 115.10 
321°   22 nm  00:02
34  Waypoint: COMPTON [CPT]                               VOR : 114.35 
287°   48 nm  00:06
35  Waypoint: Intersection [KENET] 
287°    9 nm  00:01
36  Waypoint: Intersection [BASET] 
291°   10 nm  00:01
37  Waypoint: Intersection [CHELT] 
312°   31 nm  00:04
39  Waypoint: Intersection [RADNO] 
312°   38 nm  00:05
40  Waypoint: Intersection [BEGDA] 
312°   36 nm  00:05
41  Waypoint: Intersection [NEFYN] 
312°   29 nm  00:04
42  Waypoint: Intersection [DUB57] 
312°   14 nm  00:02
43  Waypoint: Intersection [TOLKA] 
311°   22 nm  00:04
44  Waypoint: FIX [N53 14.08', W5 37.61'] 
311°    5 nm  00:01
45  Waypoint: FIX [N53 15.87', W5 38.04'] 
360°    2 nm  00:00
46  Waypoint: FIX [N53 16.95', W5 35.94'] 
57°    2 nm  00:00
47  Waypoint: FIX [N53 17.53', W5 33.21'] 
78°    2 nm  00:00
48  Waypoint: FIX [N53 19.62', W5 32.11'] 
25°    2 nm  00:00
49  Waypoint: FIX [N53 21.98', W5 32.83'] 
358°    2 nm  00:00
50  Waypoint: FIX [N53 23.15', W5 36.93'] 
303°    3 nm  00:00
52  Waypoint: DUBLIN [OP]                                 NDB :  397.0 
283°   19 nm  00:04
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53  Arrive:   Dublin Intl - Rwy 28                        ATC : 124.52 
283°    4 nm  00:00
              Runway heading 283°, altitude 243 ft        ILS : 108.90
==================================================================
    Total:    (18005 kg fuel required) 
1053 nm  02:29
Questo invece è generato con RouteFinder:
STAR: can't locate fix LAMBU
Computed route from FIUMICINO (LIRF, LI) to DUBLIN (EIDW, EI): 38 fixes, 
1041.5 nautical miles
Cruise altitude between FL320 and FL330
LIRF (0.0nm) -SID-> GILIO (68.0nm) -UM729-> ELB (100.0nm) -UM729->
NORNI (137.7nm) -UM729-> BELEL (156.6nm) -UM729-> SPEZI (172.0nm) -UM729->
IDONA (186.4nm) -UM729-> LUKIM (197.0nm) -UM729-> GEN (216.7nm) -UM729->
TONDA (271.6nm) -UM729-> PIMOT (303.6nm) -UM729-> AOSTA (327.2nm) -UM729->
ORSUD (339.0nm) -UM729-> MOLUS (374.9nm) -UM729-> GALBI (402.9nm) -UM729->
TUROM (412.8nm) -UM729-> DJL (456.7nm) -UH37-> TUNOR (510.1nm) -UH37->
LAULY (534.2nm) -UH37-> BRY (556.3nm) -UM733-> CLM (584.9nm) -UM733->
UTELA (589.1nm) -UM733-> KOPOR (631.3nm) -UT426-> ABUDA (675.7nm) -UT426->
DIMAL (702.8nm) -UT420-> ALESO (710.1nm) -UT420-> TIGER (752.1nm) -UT420->
BIG (774.1nm) -UL9-> LINDY (815.5nm) -UL9-> NORRY (818.4nm) -UL9->
CPT (822.0nm) -UL9-> KENET (831.0nm) -UL9-> BASET (840.9nm) -UL18->
CHELT (871.8nm) -UL18-> RADNO (910.1nm) -UL18-> NEFYN (975.2nm) -UL18->
TOLKA (1010.4nm) -STAR-> EIDW (1041.5nm)
Details:
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ID      FREQ   TRK   DIST   Coords                       Name/Remarks
LIRF             0      0   N41°48'16.11" E012°15'02.87" FIUMICINO
GILIO          300     68   N42°22'00.00" E010°55'36.00" GILIO
ELB     114.7  314     32   N42°43'50.00" E010°23'45.00" ELBA
NORNI          332     38   N43°16'42.00" E009°58'48.00" NORNI
BELEL          332     19   N43°33'12.00" E009°46'06.00" BELEL
SPEZI          331     15   N43°46'36.00" E009°35'42.00" SPEZI
IDONA          331     14   N43°59'06.00" E009°25'48.00" IDONA
LUKIM          331     11   N44°08'24.00" E009°18'31.00" LUKIM
GEN     112.8  331     20   N44°25'27.68" E009°04'55.50" GENOVA
TONDA          320     55   N45°06'36.00" E008°13'48.00" TONDA
PIMOT          319     32   N45°30'15.00" E007°43'12.00" PIMOT
AOSTA          320     24   N45°47'48.00" E007°20'42.00" AOSTA
ORSUD          326     12   N45°57'28.00" E007°10'54.00" ORSUD
MOLUS          326     36   N46°26'38.00" E006°40'46.00" MOLUS
GALBI          310     28   N46°43'44.00" E006°08'37.00" GALBI
TUROM          315     10   N46°50'31.00" E005°57'59.00" TUROM
DJL     111.45 308     44   N47°16'14.80" E005°05'50.40" DIJON
TUNOR          316     53   N47°53'00.00" E004°08'28.00" TUNOR
LAULY          316     24   N48°09'26.00" E003°42'08.00" LAULY
BRY     114.1  316     22   N48°24'25.20" E003°17'41.20" BRAY SUR SEINE
CLM     112.9  340     29   N48°50'40.70" E003°00'49.90" COULOMMIERS
UTELA          333      4   N48°54'21.00" E002°57'38.00" UTELA
KOPOR          334     42   N49°30'51.00" E002°25'17.00" KOPOR
ABUDA          328     44   N50°06'59.00" E001°45'27.00" ABUDA
DIMAL          331     27   N50°29'33.00" E001°21'59.00" DIMAL
ALESO          317      7   N50°34'32.00" E001°13'32.00" ALESO
TIGER          319     42   N51°04'00.23" E000°26'18.90" TIGER (BIG 139/022)
BIG     115.1  321     22   N51°19'51.15" E000°02'05.32" BIGGIN
LINDY          287     41   N51°28'14.00" W001°02'57.00" LINDY
NORRY          286      3   N51°28'47.00" W001°07'24.00" NORRY
CPT     114.35 286      4   N51°29'30.00" W001°13'11.00" COMPTON
KENET          286      9   N51°31'14.00" W001°27'18.00" KENET
BASET          290     10   N51°33'50.00" W001°42'36.00" BASET
CHELT          312     31   N51°52'06.00" W002°22'51.00" CHELT
RADNO          311     38   N52°14'25.00" W003°13'28.00" RADNO (BCN 008/031)
NEFYN          312     65   N52°51'27.00" W004°41'20.00" NEFYN (WAL 246/065)
TOLKA          311     35   N53°11'04.00" W005°30'00.00" TOLKA
EIDW           305     31   N53°25'16.80" W006°16'12.27" DUBLIN
Tracks are magnetic, distances are in nautical miles.
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LIRF SID GILIO UM729 DJL UH37 BRY UM733 KOPOR UT426 DIMAL UT420 BIG UL9 
BASET UL18 TOLKA STAR EIDW
Mi sembra che sia lo stesso tragitto, però perchè FSNav fette tutti quei fix 
dentro il piano (nella SID e nella STAR oltre che in crociera) che invece 
RouteFinder non mette?
Come bisogna regolarsi quindi ?
Potreste darmi qualche dritta / aiuto / riferimento?
grazie mille ciao

 Come bisogna regolarsi quindi ?
Il piano di volo da mandare per l'approvazione non ha tutti i fix. 
Questi si usano solo quando si entra o si esce dall'aerovia. Ad esempio 
da gilio a djl fai sempre la UM729 e quindi non serve indicare tutti i 
fix nel mezzo quando si presenta il piano di volo. Invece per tuo 
riferimento, per seguire l'andamento del volo, valutare i tempi la 
velocita` e i consumi, un po' di intersezioni o altri punti notevoli, 
con i tempi stimati di sorvolo, possono essere utili.
-- 
Franco
Herz, mein Herz, sei nicht beklommen und ertrage dein Geschick.
(H. Heine)