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Titolo: Indovinate con cosa hanno iniziato? NY Setlist

non hanno suonato Ignoreland ma...
per l'occasione è tornata "I'ts The End Of The World(AIFF)"
come prima canzone in scaletta!! ;)
2004-11-04 - Madison Square Garden, New York, NY, USA
It's The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)
Begin the Begin
So Fast, So Numb
Welcome To The Occupation
Animal
Boy In The Wel
Get Up
The Outsiders
Cuyahoga
High Speed Train
The One I Love 
Sweetness Follows
Imitation Of Life
I Wanted To Be Wrong
Losing My Religion
Final Straw
Walk Unafraid
Life and How to Live it
encore: 
What's The Frequency, Kenneth?
Drive 
Leaving New York
Electrolite
Permanent Vacation
I'm Gonna DJ 
Man On The Moon 
aggiungerò i commenti non appena il server di murmurs sarà
raggiungibile ;) 
da rec.music.rem:
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They opened with "It's the End of the World As We Know It"  and bid us
goodnight immediately following...
They then launched into Begin the Begin....and all seemed normal..
My question is have they ever opened with this before?
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Nope, first time ever...
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Ciao!
Vero - High Speed Train Jumpers #2
--
I told you I wanted to be wrong, 
but everyone is humming a song
that I DON'T UNDERSTAND

come prima canzone in scaletta!! ;)
fantastico!

come prima canzone in scaletta!! ;)
Wow! Che botta End of The World come prima canzone!
E per la prima volta dall'inizio di questo tour non hanno eseguito Bad
Day...lo avranno fatto di proposito?
Ciao
Luca

Day...lo avranno fatto di proposito?
beh credo proprio di si ;)
intando due articoli uno positivo e l'altro negativo...
il primo dice che la band ha fatto minimi accenni al risultato delle
elezioni e invece hanno lasciato che le canzoni parlassero per loro...
tante di carattere politico sia da Around the Sun che dai precedenti
lavori....
prima di Cuyahoga Michael ha detto "Questa riguarda l'Ohio" e il
pubblico in coro ha risposto con un "Booooo" collettivo - si poteva
carpire il sentimento della serata anche solo citando questo
dettaglio...
un fan ha aggiunto:"Stipe riusciva a stento a parlare nel corso del
concerto. A un certo punto, ha ammesso che non sapeva cosa dire e per
questo ha lasciato che la musica parlasse da sè  
anche l'ultimo articolo da particolare rilievo a "Cuyahoga" la cui
parte iniziale di testo "Let's put our heads together and start a new
country up," ha lanciato un messaggio che sembrava risuonasse tra il
pubblico dello Square Garden
da NME:
GRIEVING NEW YORK!
REM played their first show since the American Presidential election
in NEW YORK last night (November 4) - and showed how they felt by
playing a host of politically-charged songs.
The band had openly backed Democrat John Kerry's bid for the
presidency by appearing on last month's Vote For Change jaunt with the
likes of Bruce Springsteen and Pearl Jam.
At Madison Square Garden, in a state where a majority had voted for
Kerry, the band opened with 'It's The End Of The World As We Know It
(And I Feel Fine)', the first time it has been played on the current
tour, and normally a set closer when it is performed.
The band made minimal direct reference to the election, instead
performing political songs from the new album 'Around The Sun' -
'Final Straw', 'The Outsiders', 'I Wanted To Be Wrong' - and oldies
such as 'Welcome To The Occupation', 'Cuyahoga' and 'Begin The Begin'.
One onlooker told fansite Murmurs.com: "When they did 'Cuyahoga', he
(frontman Michael Stipe) said: 'This is about Ohio and the audience
gave a collective "boooooooo" - so you could tell the mood the band
was in a all night just from that alone."
The fan added: "He (Stipe) barely spoke throughout the whole show. At
one point, he mentioned that he didn't know what to say so he'd let
the music speak for itself."
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Dal New York Daily News :
You guys used to have
punch, R.E.M.ember? 
BY DAVID SPRAGUE
SPECIAL TO THE NEWS 
 
Scratch the surface of just about any crotchety old fogy and you'll
find some remnant of the firebrand that once inhabited his skin. At
Madison Square Garden last night, the members of R.E.M. tried to get
in touch with their inner revolutionaries, but while the spirit was
willing, the flesh often proved weak.
The band sprinted out of the gate with Michael Stipe cheerleading
through a double-time "It's the End of the World As We Know It" and a
purposefully dissonant "Begin the Begin" - both designed to vent some
of the spleen built up during months on John Kerry's campaign trail.
That salvo, however, opened the door to something of a letdown, a
feeling of listlessness on both sides of the stage lights.
The inertia set in with an oddly enervated version of "So Fast So
Numb," one of a slew of lesser-known songs that peppered the band's
90-minute set. Unfamiliarity alone wouldn't have been a problem had
the band chosen to include more songs that made good use of Peter
Buck's guitar work, long R.E.M.'s calling card.
While most bands with a quarter-century's worth of songs ease
audiences into new material, Stipe and company chose to go the
immersion route here, loading their set with more than a half-dozen
selections from the poorly received "Around the Sun" album.
Every time the band circled back to material from that CD, it landed
with a thud, most notably on "Leaving New York," a surprisingly
lackluster 9/11 remembrance. Similarly, "The Outsiders," on which
Stipe tried to replicate the rap that Q-Tip contributed to the
recorded version, came across as flaccid. 
The set was most gripping when Stipe was at his most strident, whether
pleading his case in a stark version of the 1987 obscurity "Welcome to
the Occupation" or intoning the mournful mantra of the previous year's
"Cuyahoga."
With odd prescience, the latter song - named after one of Ohio's
largest counties - begins with the line, "Let's put our heads together
and start a new country up," a message that certainly resonated with
the Garden crowd. When speaking, as he was there, from the heart,
Stipe was virtually unassailable. But when simply speaking his mind,
he was little more than a talking head. 
Originally published on November 5, 2004 
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raggiungibile ;) 
ecco...
foto:
http://www.murmurs.com/talk/attachment.php?attachmentid=45162
verso la fine Michael si è tirato giù i pantaloni... :)
Vale stai calmaaaaaaaaaaa.... aveva i Boxer!! :-)) LOL
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Being the first show performed after the presidential election I was
curious as to how R.E.M. would digest it all and spew it back at us in
the form of a performance. It was raw, dissonant, straightforward,
unrelenting.
When the first staccato drum flares of 'It's the End of the World as
We Know it (And I Feel Fine)' opened the show, I knew we were in for
an emotional, complex evening. Every song seemed so poignant this
evening in the wake of Tuesday's events. During 'Get Up' the repeated
plea "Wake up, Wake up" felt as if it was directed towards the
majority of America's voting public. When they launched into 'Welcome
to the Occupation' I felt chills shoot up my spine. When Michael
mentioned that 'Cuyahoga' takes place in Ohio the audience booed
vehemently. Not surprising from a city that voted upwards of 80% in
favor of Kerry. Michael came on all no-nonsense, intent on riffing off
of his obvious shock, disappointment, and awe. He barely spoke
throughout the whole show. He only occasionally would make reference
to this 'crazy Thursday night'. At one point he mentioned that he
didn't know what to say so he'd let the music speak for itself. And
did it ever. The band just wailed through an impressive repertoire,
full of explosive, sizzling hooks.
This was one of the most remarkable R.E.M. shows I've seen. They
bulldozed through the set and quite frankly they didn't f*%k around.
Listening to their music live on the coat tails of such a monumental
political event amplified the poignancy of Michael's lyrics making
each song seem timely, relevant, and defiant.
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I agree: It was a very emotional show. It was my first REM concert
even though I've been a fan since CGTFH (had good seats, directly
behind VIP section), and I purposely chose it because it was their
first one after the election. Tomorrow night I'm seeing them at
Mohegan Sun, but I'll never forget my first time. 
Opening with ITEOTWAWKI(AIFF) was an explosive highlight. I had hoped
they would play a lot of songs off of Document tonight, and they did
-- gave me a chance to scream and vent my political frustration.
([Rant follows: skip to next paragraph for more about concert.] I
worked very, very hard on this election, and I've been in a state of
abject depression and disbelief since Kerry conceded yesterday. Maybe
the next time Bush is goofing around looking for WMD's under his desk,
he can also look for all the votes he stole -- I absolutely cannot
believe that he won this election without some kind of hijinks. But
maybe it is true that the majority of Americans are so pathetically
stupid and lazy that they vote their worst fears instead of their best
hopes.)
Michael was funny -- after ITEOTW... he said, "Thank you everyone!
Goodnight!" As if that song said it all. It does. The thing that
impresses me about Document is how relevant and powerful the songs
still are, even after all these years. "Look who robbed the mint. Buy
a jingo, buy America."
The other highlight: Michael dropping his drawers at the very end.
Boxers, in case you're wondering. He was so adorable shaking his
skinny little booty all over the stage with his pants around his
ankles.
I was eager to hear "I Wanna be a DJ" since I've heard others talk
about it on the boards here. Cool song. I didn't think I would like
"Animal" live, but it was great. "High Speed Train" didn't seem as
monotonous as it does on the album. (I like vegging out to it, but
there are times when I skip over it.)
I was surprised that there were so many REM fans who would be pro-Bush
-- a number of them made disparaging comments about my "DEFY BUSH
Inc." shirt. Who knew there could be so many douchebags who love REM? 
Michael really lifted me up, even on "this very strange Thursday
night," as he called it.
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Agreed with the people who said the election took its toll -- Michael
seemed really heartbroken throughout pretty much all of the main set;
he only perked up for the encore.
Don't know if anybody mentioned this, but Michael was consistently
introducing the songs by geography -- he said "Boy In The Well" was
set in Tennessee, then introduced "Cuyahoga" with "This song takes
place in Ohio" -- and the MSG crowd booed (you'd better believe NYC's
blue...). Obviously he introduced "Leaving New York" with "This song
takes place in New York City," and then "This song takes place in Los
Angeles" for "Electrolite."
This show wasn't as good as last year's MSG show, which was one of the
greatest concerts I've ever seen anyone give in my life, but it was
still pretty good. I wish Michael had been a little less glum, or at
the very least a little more willing to talk through it, perhaps; he
only started talking to the audience about halfway through the set,
and then only to talk about the songs (describing his tendency to
avoid autobiography, and finally succumbing to it with "I Wanted To Be
Wrong").
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Oh, and the great joke of the night -- opening with "End Of The World"
and then immediately saying "Thank you, goodnight!" before pausing and
starting "Begin The Begin."
And no, sadly, MSG was not sold out -- I think it was less sold than
last year, actually, though that's not surprising, since it hasn't
been very long since they were here, and they're not promoting an
album that's much of a commercial juggernaut. :-|
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After the depressing last coupla days----the re -crowning of King
Bush(leaguer) and the all day/nite rain in NYC, Michael helped us get
a catharsis thru his music........every song was intense!
If you were there (and werent one of the people who were talking and
/or sitting.)...........You know what I be talkin' about.
There is no one like REM!
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Vale stai calmaaaaaaaaaaa.... aveva i Boxer!! :-)) LOL
Ecco Michael in tutto il suo splendore :)) :-P
http://www.jukeboxgraduate.com/archives/images/jms3.jpg
http://www.murmurs.com/talk/attachment.php?attachmentid=45173
foto e review:
http://www.jukeboxgraduate.com/archives/000115.html
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 non hanno suonato Ignoreland ma...
Peccato, mi sa che non la faranno più :-(
Comunque su murmurs c'è una specie di petizione x farla suonare. Io
naturalmente mi sono unita, poi posto il link.
Ciao,
Valentina

 
http://www.jukeboxgraduate.com/archives/000115.html
Grazie Vero!
Che gran bel gnocco :-D
(magari si presentasse cosě anche ad assago...se gli servisse qualcuno
disposto ad aiutarlo a calarsi le braghe, sarei disposta a sacrificarmi :-P)
Ciao,
Valentina

 disposto ad aiutarlo a calarsi le braghe, sarei disposta a sacrificarmi
:-P)
Eccone un'altra di Michael bello + che mai! :-D (speriamo che al forum di
Assago faccia caldo ;-))
http://www.myrem.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9376
Ciao,
Valentina

 
Uffi e che cavolo ma ci eravamo accordati sul fatto che i diritti e
l'esclusiva dei suoi  nudi erano una mia esclusiva.........non si fa
cosi perrrrrrrro