Newsgroup: it.comp.os.linux.debian
Titolo: ia64 e amd64

Ho appena installato la testing amd64, finora avevo sempre
messo le i386, potete darmi queste info:
-- ci son meno pacchetti con l'amd86 rispetto all'i386?
-- con cpu intel E8400, che e' a 64 bit (core 2 duo) ma
non e' itanium, perche' non posso mettere la ia64?
-- che differenza c'e' tra ia64 e amd64?
-- ho 1 solo giga di ram, val la pena (pena=60-70 euro)
portarla a quattro?
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Saluti, Dalet

 portarla a quattro?
Dipende da quel che ci fai. IMHO sì.
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is nothing left.

amd64 immagino... I pacchetti sono tendenzialmente gli stessi, salvo
[..........]
Ok THX!
-- 
Saluti, Dalet

quelli specifici per le architetture a 32 bit.
Si', e adesso li ho tutti eccoli:
(sn=solo in 32; dx=solo in 64)
acroread-plugin-speech		      <
amd64-libs			      <
amd64-libs-dev			      <
amiwm				      <
ardour-i686			      <
assaultcube			      <
athcool				      <
atitvout			      <
avifile-win32-plugin		      <
axe				      <
bsign				      <
circlepack			      <
cmucl				      <
cmucl-clm			      <
cobalt-panel-utils		      <
dgen				      <
digitools			      <
drdsl				      <
dvisvga				      <
				      >	emacs-mozc
				      >	emacs-mozc-bin
				      >	embassy-phylip
fdflush				      <
fenix				      <
fenix-plugin-mpeg		      <
fenix-plugins			      <
fenix-plugins-system		      <
				      >	fglrx-glx-ia32
flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound	      <
fnfx-client			      <
fnfxd				      <
fp-units-i386			      <
				      >	frobtads
gatos				      <
gdb64				      <
ggcov				      <
glide2-bin			      <
gmap				      <
gmod				      <
gnome-speech-dectalk		      <
gnome-speech-ibmtts		      <
gnumach				      <
gnumach-dbg			      <
gnumach-dev			      <
				      >	ia32-libs
				      >	ia32-libs-dev
				      >	ia32-libs-gtk
				      >	ia32-libs-libidn11
				      >	ia32-libs-xulrunner
				      >	ia32-sun-java6-bin
				      >	ibus-mozc
ikarus				      <
inform				      <
inn2-lfs			      <
ipadic				      <
irpas				      <
				      >	kic
				      >	lib32asound2
				      >	lib32asound2-dev
				      >	lib32asound2-plugins
				      >	lib32bz2-1.0
				      >	lib32bz2-dev
				      >	lib32cr0
				      >	lib32ffi5
				      >	lib32ffi-dev
				      >	lib32gcc1
				      >	lib32gcc1-dbg
				      >	lib32gfortran3
				      >	lib32gfortran3-dbg
				      >	lib32gmp3
				      >	lib32gmp3-dev
				      >	lib32gmpxx4
				      >	lib32gomp1
				      >	lib32gomp1-dbg
				      >	lib32icu44
				      >	lib32icu-dev
				      >	lib32mudflap0
				      >	lib32mudflap0-dbg
				      >	lib32ncurses5
				      >	lib32ncurses5-dev
				      >	lib32ncursesw5
				      >	lib32ncursesw5-dev
				      >	lib32nss-mdns
				      >	lib32objc2
				      >	lib32objc2-dbg
				      >	lib32readline5
				      >	lib32readline5-dev
				      >	lib32readline6
				      >	lib32readline6-dev
				      >	lib32stdc++6
				      >	lib32stdc++6-4.3-dbg
				      >	lib32stdc++6-4.4-dbg
				      >	lib32v4l-0
				      >	lib32v4l-dev
				      >	lib32vdpau1
				      >	lib32z1
				      >	lib32z1-dev
lib64asound2			      <
lib64asound2-dev		      <
lib64asound2-plugins		      <
lib64bz2-1.0			      <
lib64bz2-dev			      <
lib64expat1			      <
lib64expat1-dev			      <
lib64ffi5			      <
lib64ffi-dev			      <
lib64gcc1			      <
lib64gcc1-dbg			      <
lib64gfortran3			      <
lib64gfortran3-dbg		      <
lib64gomp1			      <
lib64gomp1-dbg			      <
lib64mudflap0			      <
lib64mudflap0-dbg		      <
lib64ncurses5			      <
lib64ncurses5-dev		      <
lib64objc2			      <
lib64objc2-dbg			      <
lib64readline5			      <
lib64readline5-dev		      <
lib64readline6			      <
lib64readline6-dev		      <
lib64stdc++6			      <
lib64stdc++6-4.3-dbg		      <
lib64stdc++6-4.4-dbg		      <
lib64z1				      <
lib64z1-dev			      <
liballegro4.2-plugin-svgalib	      <
libc6-amd64			      <
libc6-dev-amd64			      |	libc6-dev-i386
libc6-i686			      |	libc6-i386
libc6-xen			      <
libcomplearn-mod-ppmd		      <
libcomplearn-mod-ppmdx		      <
				      >	libcuda1-ia32
libdbd-informix-perl		      <
libfreebasic			      <
libgatos0			      <
libgatos-dev			      <
libgl1-mesa-swx11-i686		      <
				      >	libgl1-nvidia-alternatives-ia32
				      >	libgl1-nvidia-glx-ia32
				      >	libgl1-nvidia-legacy-173xx-glx-ia32
				      >	libgl1-nvidia-legacy-96xx-glx-ia32
libglide2			      <
libglide2-dev			      <
libgpcl0			      <
libgpcl-dev			      <
libiptables-ipv4-ipqueue-perl	      <
libnewlib0			      <
				      >	libnvidia-compiler1-ia32
				      >	libnvidia-compiler-ia32
libopenspc0			      <
libopenspc-dev			      <
libsdl-stretch-0-3		      <
libsdl-stretch-dev		      <
libstlport4.6-dev		      <
libstlport4.6ldbl		      <
libtet1.4.2			      <
libtet1.4.2-dev			      <
libwine-jack			      <
linux-headers-2.6.32-5-486	      <
linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686	      <
linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem     <
linux-headers-2.6.32-5-all-i386	      |	linux-headers-2.6.32-5-all-amd64
linux-headers-2.6.32-5-openvz-686     |	linux-headers-2.6.32-5-openvz-amd64
linux-headers-2.6.32-5-vserver-686    |	linux-headers-2.6.32-5-vserver-amd64
linux-headers-2.6.32-5-vserver-686-bi |	linux-headers-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64
linux-headers-2.6.32-5-xen-686	      <
linux-headers-2.6-486		      <
linux-headers-2.6-686		      <
linux-headers-2.6-686-bigmem	      <
linux-headers-2.6-openvz-686	      |	linux-headers-2.6-openvz-amd64
linux-headers-2.6-vserver-686	      |	linux-headers-2.6-vserver-amd64
linux-headers-2.6-vserver-686-bigmem  |	linux-headers-2.6-xen-amd64
linux-headers-2.6-xen-686	      <
linux-image-2.6.32-5-486	      <
linux-image-2.6.32-5-686	      <
linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem	      <
linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem-dbg   <
linux-image-2.6.32-5-openvz-686	      |	linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64-dbg
linux-image-2.6.32-5-openvz-686-dbg   |	linux-image-2.6.32-5-openvz-amd64
linux-image-2.6.32-5-vserver-686      |	linux-image-2.6.32-5-openvz-amd64-dbg
linux-image-2.6.32-5-vserver-686-bigm |	linux-image-2.6.32-5-vserver-amd64
linux-image-2.6.32-5-vserver-686-bigm |	linux-image-2.6.32-5-vserver-amd64-db
linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-686	      |	linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64
linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-686-dbg      |	linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64-dbg
linux-image-2.6-486		      <
linux-image-2.6-686		      <
linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem	      <
linux-image-2.6-openvz-686	      |	linux-image-2.6-openvz-amd64
linux-image-2.6-vserver-686	      |	linux-image-2.6-vserver-amd64
linux-image-2.6-vserver-686-bigmem    |	linux-image-2.6-xen-amd64
linux-image-2.6-xen-686		      <
linux-image-486			      <
linux-image-686			      <
linux-image-686-bigmem		      <
linux-image-openvz-686		      |	linux-image-openvz-amd64
linux-image-vserver-686		      |	linux-image-vserver-amd64
linux-image-vserver-686-bigmem	      |	linux-image-xen-amd64
linux-image-xen-686		      <
lisaac				      <
longrun				      <
lphdisk				      <
maelstrom			      <
martian-modem			      <
martian-modem-source		      <
mig				      <
mit-scheme			      <
mit-scheme-dbg			      <
mocka				      <
mozart				      <
				      >	mozc-server
				      >	mozc-utils-gui
mpg123-oss-3dnow		      <
mpg123-oss-i486			      <
mssstest			      <
ngspice				      <
nictools-nopci			      <
				      >	nspluginwrapper
				      >	nvidia-glx-ia32
				      >	nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx-ia32
nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-5-486	      |	nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx-ia32
nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-5-686	      <
nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem     <
nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-5-vserver-686    |	nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-5-vserver-amd64
nvidia-kernel-2.6.32-5-vserver-686-bi <
nvidia-kernel-2.6-486		      <
nvidia-kernel-2.6-686		      <
nvidia-kernel-2.6-686-bigmem	      <
nvidia-kernel-2.6-vserver-686	      |	nvidia-kernel-2.6-vserver-amd64
nvidia-kernel-2.6-vserver-686-bigmem  <
				      >	nvidia-libopencl1-ia32
				      >	nvidia-libvdpau1-ia32
				      >	nvidia-opencl-icd-ia32
				      >	nvidia-vdpau-driver-ia32
olvwm				      <
olwm				      <
paxtest				      <
pforth				      <
ppmd				      <
pptview				      <
pstack				      <
python-psyco			      <
pythontracer			      <
qcam				      <
radiance-sse3			      <
rar-2.80			      <
retty				      <
rio				      <
sb16ctrl-bochs			      <
sbm				      <
				      >	scim-mozc
scsh-0.6			      <
set6x86				      <
sl-modem-source			      <
spellcast			      <
splay				      <
strace64			      <
				      >	tads2-dev
tads3				      <
tclspice			      <
tclspice-dev			      <
tendra				      <
tetgen				      <
trn				      <
tsmuxer				      <
tsmuxergui			      <
				      >	uim-mozc
w32codecs			      <
				      >	w64codecs
xen-hypervisor-4.0-i386		      |	xen-linux-system-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64
xen-linux-system-2.6.32-5-xen-686     |	xen-linux-system-2.6-xen-amd64
xen-linux-system-2.6-xen-686	      <
xgmod				      <
xjove				      <
xserver-xorg-video-amd		      <
xserver-xorg-video-amd-dbg	      <
xserver-xorg-video-geode	      <
xserver-xorg-video-geode-dbg	      <
xserver-xorg-video-glide	      <
xsnow				      <
xview-clients			      <
xview-examples			      <
xviewg				      <
xviewg-dev			      <
yforth				      <
zsnes				      <
E tolte le librerie 32<-->64 e i kernel mi sembra che non
ce ne siano quasi nulla in meno -- mi sa che migro, non mi
sembra che ci siano controindicazioni, pero' la 32 me la
tengo sempre anche se uso la 64.
-- 
Saluti, Dalet

Come l'hai ottenuto questo output?
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Come l'hai ottenuto questo output?
Con:
grep -w "Package:" /var/lib/dpkg/available > /tmp/ava3
grep -w "Package:" /mnt/am64t/var/lib/dpkg/available > /tmp/ava6
cd /tmp; awk '{print $2}' ava3 | sort > awk3
cd /tmp; awk '{print $2}' ava6 | sort > awk6
cd /tmp; diff -y -W80 --suppress-common-lines awk3 awk6 > diff3-6
Il tutto SE&O sto andando a memoria ciao.
(se lo fai dovrebbe venirti uguale anche da te)
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Saluti, Dalet