Newsgroup: it.comp.retrocomputing
Titolo: VAX 4000-300 [LUNGHISSIMO]

>>boot dia1
(BOOT/R5:0 DIA1)
 
  2..
-RF0902$DIA1
  1..0..
 
 
   VAX/VMS Version V5.5-2   Major version id = 1 Minor version id = 0
 
Please enter date and time (DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM): 16-NOV-2012 12:56
$!  Copyright (c) 1992 Digital Equipment Corporation.  All rights reserved.
 
%STDRV-I-STARTUP, VMS startup begun at 16-NOV-2012 12:57:08.57
%MSCPLOAD-E-SERVE_ERR, error serving device $1$DIA1: (RF0902), R0 status = 00000084
%MSCPLOAD-E-SERVE_ERR, error serving device $1$DIA1: (RF0902), R0 status = 00000084
%SET-I-NEWAUDSRV, identification of new audit server process is 0000010A
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 12:57:35.50  %%%%%%%%%%%
Operator _XSAR$OPA0: has been enabled, username SYSTEM
 
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 12:57:35.66  %%%%%%%%%%%
Operator status for operator _XSAR$OPA0:
CENTRAL, PRINTER, TAPES, DISKS, DEVICES, CARDS, NETWORK, CLUSTER, SECURITY,
LICENSE, OPER1, OPER2, OPER3, OPER4, OPER5, OPER6, OPER7, OPER8, OPER9, OPER10,
OPER11, OPER12
 
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 12:57:36.23  %%%%%%%%%%%
Logfile has been initialized by operator _XSAR$OPA0:
Logfile is XSAR::SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]OPERATOR.LOG;42
 
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 12:57:36.23  %%%%%%%%%%%
Operator status for operator XSAR::SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]OPERATOR.LOG;42
CENTRAL, PRINTER, TAPES, DISKS, DEVICES, CARDS, NETWORK, CLUSTER, SECURITY,
LICENSE, OPER1, OPER2, OPER3, OPER4, OPER5, OPER6, OPER7, OPER8, OPER9, OPER10,
OPER11, OPER12
 
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 12:57:38.75  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on XSAR
Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on XSAR, system id: 29661
Auditable event:        Audit server starting up
Event time:             16-NOV-2012 12:57:37.18
 
%MSCPLOAD-E-SERVE_ERR, error serving device $1$DIA0: (RF0900), R0 status = 00000084
%MSCPLOAD-E-SERVE_ERR, error serving device $1$DIA2: (RF0901), R0 status = 00000084
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 12:57:53.81  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on XSAR
Warning: DECdtm log file not found (SYS$JOURNAL:SYSTEM$XSAR.LM$JOURNAL)
        %RMS-E-FNF, file not found
        TP server process waiting
 
 
STARTUP - Start SYSTARTUP.COM...
%PURGE-I-FILPURG, SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]OPERATOR.LOG;41 deleted (140 blocks)
%PURGE-I-FILPURG, SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]OPERATOR.LOG;40 deleted (1365 blocks)
%PURGE-I-TOTAL, 2 files deleted (1505 blocks)
%MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, VAXVMSV2055  mounted on _$1$DIA0: (RF0900)
%MOUNT-I-REBUILD, volume was improperly dismounted; rebuild in progress
%MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, USER2        mounted on _$1$DIA2: (RF0901)
%MOUNT-I-REBUILD, volume was improperly dismounted; rebuild in progress
%MOUNT-F-NOSUCHDEV, no such device available
%MOUNT-F-NOSUCHDEV, no such device available
%MOUNT-F-NOSUCHDEV, no such device available
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 0000010E
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 12:58:35.03  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user DECNET on XSAR
DECnet starting
 
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 12:58:37.58  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on XSAR
Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on XSAR, system id: 29661
Auditable event:        Network login
Event time:             16-NOV-2012 12:58:37.42
PID:                    0000010F        
Username:               DECNET          
Remote nodename:                        Remote node id:         0
Remote username:                        
 
%NCP-I-NOINFO, No information in database
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 12:58:41.58  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user DECNET on XSAR
DECnet event 4.10, circuit up
From node 28.989 (XSAR), 16-NOV-2012 12:58:40.44
Circuit ISA-0
 
 
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 00000110
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 00000111
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 12:58:45.28  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user LATACP on XSAR
LATACP initialized                                                                                                                  
 
%LASTCP-I-VERSION, LASTDRIVER X1.5 is stopped
%LASTCP-I-ADAPINIT, Initializing adapter EZA7: for LASTDRIVER
%LASTCP-I-ADAPINIT, Initializing adapter XQA1: for LASTDRIVER
%LASTCP-I-STARTED, LASTDRIVER X1.5 started on node XSAR
%LADCP-I-CACHESET, LAD server cache size set
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 00000112
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 00000113
added NETBIOS adapter name XSAR_PCSA$RMI name number: 3  
DECnet object name: PCSA$RMI
%LASTCP-I-VERSION, LASTDRIVER X1.5 is running
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 00000116
%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR]WRITE$
STARTUP.COM
; as input
-RMS-E-FNF, file not found
%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR]LCI$
STARTUP.COM
; as input
-RMS-E-FNF, file not found
%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR]DEBUG$
STARTUP.COM
; as input
-RMS-E-FNF, file not found
%INSTALL-W-NOPREV, no previous entry exists - new entry created for DISK$VMSA552:<SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB>TRN$DDIF_PS.EXE
%RMS-E-FNF, file not found
%JBC-I-QUENOTMOD, modifications not made to running queue
%JBC-I-QUENOTMOD, modifications not made to running queue
%JBC-I-QUENOTMOD, modifications not made to running queue
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 00000117
The Internet driver and ACP were successfully loaded.
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 12:59:49.02  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user INTERnet on XSAR
INTERnet Loaded
 
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 12:59:50.10  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user INTERnet on XSAR
INTERnet Started
 
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 12:59:52.37  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user INTERnet on XSAR
INTERnet ACP Created INTERnet interface: QE0
 
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 12:59:54.23  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user INTERnet on XSAR
INTERnet ACP Created INTERnet interface: ZE0
 
%UCX-I-LOADSERV, Loading UCX Server proxy information
%UCX-I-SERVLOADED, UCX Aux. Server loaded with 0 proxy records
-UCX-I-SERVSKIP,  Skipped 0 communication proxy records
-UCX-I-SERVTOTAL,  Total of 0 proxy records read
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 12:59:57.38  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user INTERnet on XSAR
INTERnet ACP Remote Terminal Services START - RLOGIN
 
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 12:59:57.38  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user INTERnet on XSAR
INTERnet ACP Activate RLOGIN Server 
 
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 12:59:58.18  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user INTERnet on XSAR
INTERnet ACP Remote Terminal Services START - TELNET
 
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 12:59:58.18  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user INTERnet on XSAR
INTERnet ACP Activate TELNET Server 
 
        WARNING - no filesystems defined for NFS server
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of SYS$UTILITY has been superseded
%RMS-E-FNF, file not found
%JBC-I-QUENOTMOD, modifications not made to running queue
%JBC-I-QUENOTMOD, modifications not made to running queue
%JBC-I-QUENOTMOD, modifications not made to running queue
%JBC-E-STARTED, queue already started
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 13:00:07.66  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on XSAR
%QMAN-E-SYMDEL, unexpected symbiont process termination
 
%RMS-E-FNF, file not found
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 13:00:07.67  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on XSAR
-RMS-E-FNF, file not found
 
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 13:00:08.21  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on XSAR
%QMAN-E-SYMDEL, unexpected symbiont process termination
 
%RMS-E-FNF, file not found
%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  16-NOV-2012 13:00:08.22  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on XSAR
-RMS-E-FNF, file not found
 
%DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling
 \DECW$DEFINE\
%RUN-S-PROC_ID, identification of created process is 0000011B
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of DISK$XTRA0 has been superseded
%LADCP-E-NOCLIENT, client driver not available
-SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHDEV, no such device available
 
Found TAPE device  served via INFOSERVER
 is assigned logicals EXABYTE and $1$MUA9
 
%SYSTEM-F-IVLOGNAM, invalid logical name
%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening DISK$UTILITY:[SHARE_DIR]
COMMON_DISKS.COM
; as input
-RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or inappropriate device type for operation
%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening DISK$UTILITY:[SHARE_DIR]SYS$
DISK_LOGICALS.COM
; as input
-RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or inappropriate device type for operation
Job AUTOCK_Daemon (queue SYS$BATCH, entry 2) started on SYS$BATCH
%LICENSE-W-ALREADYLOADED, DEC DW-MOTIF has already been loaded
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of DISK$USER has been superseded
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of DISK$USER2 has been superseded
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of DISK$XTRA0 has been superseded
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of DISK$XTRA1 has been superseded
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of DISK$XTRA_SHARE has been superseded
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of $TAPE has been superseded
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of $EXA has been superseded
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of $TK has been superseded
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of LNK$LIBRARY has been superseded
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of LNK$LIBRARY_1 has been superseded
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of LNK$LIBRARY_2 has been superseded
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of AS$LIB has been superseded
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of $REP has been superseded
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of $XSAR has been superseded
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of $ACIP has been superseded
 
 
        ****************  SYSTEM STARTUP COMPLETED *******************
 
%SET-I-INTSET, login interactive limit = 64, current interactive value = 0
  16-NOV-2012 13:00:16
%DECW-W-NODEVICE, No graphics device found on this system
-DECW-I-NODECW, DECwindows graphics drivers will not be loaded
%LAT-W-CMDERROR, error reported by command executor
-LAT-E-SERVEXISTS, service name already exists
%XTERMINAL-F-STARTUP, DECW$XTERMINAL startup failed
%STDRV-E-NOSUCHFILE, File SYS$STARTUP:PCSA$
ADD_DCL.COM
 does not exist.
  SYSTEM       job terminated at 16-NOV-2012 13:00:33.27
 
  Accounting information:
  Buffered I/O count:            4013         Peak working set size:    1055
  Direct I/O count:              3991         Peak page file size:      5043
  Page faults:                  22339         Mounted volumes:             2
  Charged CPU time:           0 00:00:45.70   Elapsed time:     0 00:03:26.03
 
 
 
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http://www.supervinx.com/Retrocomputer
 

Qualche screenshot della console ...
http://www.supervinx.com/Retrocomputer/DEC/VAX/4000-300/login.png
 
http://www.supervinx.com/Retrocomputer/DEC/VAX/4000-300/set_host.png
 
http://www.supervinx.com/Retrocomputer/DEC/VAX/4000-300/llogin.png
 
http://www.supervinx.com/Retrocomputer/DEC/VAX/4000-300/system.png
 
http://www.supervinx.com/Retrocomputer/DEC/VAX/4000-300/device.png
 
http://www.supervinx.com/Retrocomputer/DEC/VAX/4000-300/status_process.png
 
 
Per la gioia (?) di G., ho attivato anche il LAT, che funziona
in entrambe le direzioni ...

   Charged CPU time:           0 00:00:45.70   Elapsed time:     0 00:03:26.03
 
Comunque alla fine sembra che lo startup finisca correttamente e senza errori
che lo interrompano prematuramente. Qui ci dice che ha montato due volumi, e
infatti oltre al disco di boot (che viene montato direttamente dall'executive)
nella macchina ci sono altri due dischi, e ci dice pure che per la sola
esecuzione delle procedure di startup (cio� 
STARTUP.COM
 + vari SY*.COM) ci ha
impiegato circa tre minuti e mezzo. Pi� il tempo per arrivare a chiamarle. :)
 
Ciao,
G.
 

 
http://www.supervinx.com/Retrocomputer/DEC/VAX/4000-300/device.png
 
 
Qui si vedono infatti i dischi DSSI visti come dischi collegati altrove in
cluster: quella sigla tra parentesi (RF09xx) � il nome del nodo del cluster
che li ospita. Nel caso dei dischi DSSI si tratta del disco stesso, ci fosse
stato un HSC con i suoi dischi avresti visto una cosa cos�:
 
Device               Device           Error    Volume         Free  Trans Mnt
 Name                Status           Count     Label        Blocks Count Cnt
$1$DKA0:   (HSJ000)  Mounted              0  FAFNER_SYS    13422420   701   1
$1$DKA1:   (HSJ000)  Mounted              0  USER_0         8582358    24   1
$1$DKA2:   (HSJ000)  Mounted              0  USER_1        13298577     1   1
$1$DKA3:   (HSJ000)  Mounted              0  SEISMIC_0     11862200     1   1
 
(L'output qui sopra viene da FAFNER, 
http://fafner.dyndns.org/
)
 
Ti abbiamo gi� raccontato che � possibile fare login sul singolo disco DSSI (o
meglio, sul suo mini-HSC integrato) e farsi dire diverse cose sullo stato del
disco stesso, nonch� cambiargli nome e cose del genere? :)
 
Ciao,
G.
 

 lasciata al destino.
 
I vari errori legati ai file mancanti (e in genere anche questi altri 
errori abbastanza anomali) e la presenza di un disco che pare avere su 
copia del media di installazione di VMS in effetti fanno pensare che con 
questa macchina abbiano quantomeno "giocato" un po' prima di dismetterla.
 
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decnet.ipv7.net
 
www.unsupported.info
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img.unixantichrist.net
 

 collegati i dischi.
 
Ah, ecco perché SHOW CLUSTER mi mostrava una cosa strana con i nomi
dei tre dischi fisici ;)
 
Rispondo qui alle altre domanda.
DIA0: (quello che sembra contenere la copia di un CDROM) era offline
quando ho acceso per la prima volta il VAX.
La configurazione in cui è stata spenta era solo con DIA1: (system disk) e
DIA2: (user).
I tastini hanno dato i numeri, all'inizio, è vero.
Il rumore su DIA1: era quello di testine in preda alla frenesia 
(a parte il fatto che DIA1: è rumoroso di suo, un po' come gli altri dischi).
 
Domandina: un backup di DIA1: come li faccio ?
Ho pensato a due strade.
1) Attacco un'unità a nastro all'interfacci SCSI. Una DDSx. La vedrà ?
2) Rimuovo il disco DIA0: (CDROM ?) e ne metto un altro. Copio (in qualche modo)
il disco. L'unico problema è che ho solo dischi RF74 ;)
 
Per il resto, come avete visto, funziona tutto (anche la rete), ed è
abbastanza veloce.
 
Non parlatemi degli emulatori di terminale lato Linux. Mi trovo sequenze
di escape dappertutto. Qualunque VTxxx imposti.
 
Sbaglio o il TCP/IP non è caricato ? Poco male, visto che LAT funziona.
 
Come mi collego al singolo HSC ? SET HOST nome ?

 di escape dappertutto. Qualunque VTxxx imposti.
 
Ubuntu ci mette del suo, sappilo, lancia un rxvt o simile a manina e 
dovresti migliorare la situazione, ad ogni modo l'emulatore piu fedele 
che c'e' e' putty, e ti consiglio di usarlo.


 che c'e' e' putty, e ti consiglio di usarlo.
 
Anche Putty ha dato i suoi problemi :)
M'ha creato un file di log pieno di sequenze d'escape...
 
 
 
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http://www.supervinx.com/Retrocomputer
 

 Come mi collego al singolo HSC ? SET HOST nome ?
 
Ti ci puoi collegare dalla ROM della console oppure da VMS. Se ti colleghi da
VMS, prima devi caricare l'apposito driver:
 
| $ MCR SYSGEN
| $ SYSGEN> CONNECT FYA0/NOADAPTER
| $ SYSGEN> EXIT
 
Dopodiché puoi usare SET HOST, però da solo non basta perché quel comando di
default usa il protocollo DECnet, qui invece ci vuole DUP:
 
| $ SET HOST /DUP /SERVER=MSCP$DUP /TASK=DIRECT RFxxxx
 
Il comando qui sopra ti elenca (DIRECT) le utilities presenti nel firmware del
disco, poi ti lascia di nuovo al prompt di VMS. A questo punto, mettendo il
nome di un'altra utility come valore di /TASK= otterrai il richiamo di quella
specifica utility. Alcune, come ad esempio PARAMS, hanno un loro prompt e
quindi rimani collegato al firmware finché non dai il comando EXIT. Esempio:
 
| $ SET HOST /DUP /SERVER=MSCP$DUP /TASK=DIRECT RFxxxx
| %HSCPAD-I-LOCPROGEXE, Local program executing - type ^\ to exit
| Copyright © 1988  Digital Equipment Corporation
| DRVEXR V1.1  D  8-MAY-1989 18:01:56
| DRVTST V1.1  D  8-MAY-1989 18:01:56
| HISTRY V1.0  D  8-MAY-1989 18:01:56
| ERASE  V1.3  D  8-MAY-1989 18:01:56
| PARAMS V1.2  D  8-MAY-1989 18:01:56
| DIRECT V1.0  D  8-MAY-1989 18:01:56
| End of directory
| %HSCPAD-S-REMPGMEND, Remote program terminated - message number 1.
| %HSCPAD-S-END, Control returned to node xxxxxx
| $
 
Non giocare troppo con quelle utilities, perché alcune possono essere dannose.
Quelle più sicure sono DIRECT, HISTRY e PARAMS.
 
Vedi anche i seguenti:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/docs/vax_vms_rfxx_notes.html
 
http://www.mcmanis.com/chuck/computers/vaxen/dssi-plug.html
 
 
Ciao,
G.
 

 M'ha creato un file di log pieno di sequenze d'escape...
 
Prova questo e vedrai quant'è comunque buono PuTTY rispetto al resto del
mondo: 
http://invisible-island.net/vttest/vttest.html
 
 
Dentro c'è anche la procedura .COM e il file .MMS per compilarlo su VMS
(occorre un compilatore C, va bene anche vecchio).
 
Ciao, :)
G.
 

 M'ha creato un file di log pieno di sequenze d'escape...
 
Devi dirglielo tu di filtrarle :)
 
G.