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Titolo: Real Player su AMD64

Ciao a tutti!
Non sono mai riuscito a far funzionare Real Player, poi ho capito che
aveva un problema di architettura. Real Player funziona su i586, mentre io
ho un AMD64. Allora sono andato alla ricerca dei sorgenti, scoprendo con
molto dispiacere che i "sorgenti" non hanno i sorgenti. Vi spiego meglio:
al link 
https://player.helixcommunity.org/2005/downloads/
 si trovano
(necessita di registrazione) i sorgenti in tarball. Una volta scaricati
dentro non ci sono i classici file ./configure e Makefile, bensì un
semplice make.bat: allora lo si richiama con # make, e lui ci dirà (nel
mio caso, ovviamente) che l'archittettura della macchina è sconosciuta o
non supportata. Se poi andiamo a vedere cosa c'è nelle altre cartelle
scopriamo che ci sono SOLO file binari. Ma cos'hanno paura che gli rubiamo
il codice? Dov'è finita la filosofia Open Source? Grazie a questa pessima
scelta tutti gli utenti AMD 64 che hanno scelto Linux non possono usare
Real.
Voi avete qualche idea?
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Scusa, ma devo smentirti.
Io ho un portatile con AMD64 e fedora4-x86_64,
Ho installato RealPlayer 10 senza nessun problema, e funziona.
Ho usato il file
RealPlayer-10.0.4.750-20050401.i586.rpm
Ciao
Grop80

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Io ho ubuntu 5.04. Ubuntu, come Debian, non supporta i pacchetti rpm.
Usando alien (un tool per trasformare un pacchetto rpm in deb) mi diceva
che la mia architettura non è supportata.
Probabilmente non ho usato quel pacchetto che dici tu. Proverò a
scaricarlo. Grazie cmq
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Ok, come non detto.
Ciao
Grop80

 
Mah, io ho realplayer installato su debian amd64 in chroot, vuol dire in
un'ambiente a 32bit su una piattaforma a 64 bit e l'ho scaricato tramite
apt-get, senza nessun problema. Questo vale per tutte le altre
applicazioni a 32 bit.
Se vuoi qulche informazione su chroot su ubuntu vai su:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=%28chroot%29
Comunque è ovvio che realplayer abbia solo i binari e non le sorgenti.
E' un prodotto proprietario, come vuoi che rilasciano le sorgenti?
Andrej

 scaricarlo. Grazie cmq
Prova a cercare nei repository per slackware il tool rpm2tgz che a sua 
volta ne richiede un'altro (non ricordo quale, ma te lo dice lui quando 
cerchi di usarlo). Il programma permette di togliere gli headers 
aggiuntivi dal file .rpm trasformandolo in un normale file .tar.gz
-- 
Lorenzo `paulatz' Paulatto
Trieste
``Se Gauss fosse vivo oggi, sarebbe un hacker.''
      --Peter Sarnack (Princeton University)

 E' un prodotto proprietario, come vuoi che rilasciano le sorgenti?
Dipende da cosa guardi. Helix (da cui il realplayer si basa) e` open
source
Henryx

Enrico 'Henryx' Bianchi ha scritto:

A sto punto anche NeroLinux ha l'interfaccia di gnometoaster, che è
opensource... ;-)
Andrej

 
Su Suse 9.3 per 64bit c'e' Real Player 10 compilato con gcc 3.3.3, e dice,
per  i sorgenti, inoltre (lunghetto):
Helix PCM Audio Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks SDP Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks SDP File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix AMR File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix PNG Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks RealMedia File Format Plugin:
(c) 1995-2002 RealNetworks, Inc. All rights reserved.
Helix RealText File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
AAC Audio Format:
RealNetworks Inc
Helix RealPix Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks Synchronized Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix RealPix PNG File Format Codec Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix RealPix PNG Renderer Codec Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix JPEG File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks RAM Driver Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks SMIL File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks View Source Tag Replacement Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks View Source Allowance Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks View Source File System:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix JPEG Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks RealMedia Meta File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks RealMedia MP3 Playlist File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix RealText Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix RealPix Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks RealVideo Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks Local View Source Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks Local File System:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix Macromedia Flash 4 File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix RealPix GIF File Format Codec Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix RealPix GIF Renderer Codec Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Theora Video Renderer:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks MPEG Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks AU File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix GIF File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks H263 Video Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix Authentication Manager:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks RealAudio Renderer Plugin:
(c) 1995-2002 RealNetworks, Inc. All rights reserved.    RealNetworks
RealAudio 8 Audio Codec:  Copyright (c) 1995-2002 RealNetworks, Inc. All
rights reserved.    ATRAC3  Copyright (c) 2000 Sony Corporation. All rights
reserved.    aacPlus  aacPlus developed by Coding Technologies. All rights
reserved.    DolbyNet(tm) audio system manufactured under license from
Dolby Laboratories Licensing Corporation.  Copyright (c) 1996-1997, Dolby
Laboratories Licensing Corporation. All rights reserved.    ACELP(r) is
either registered trademark or trademark of VoiceAge Corporation in the
United States and/or other countries and used under license from VoiceAge
Corporation  The ACELP(r).net codec in this product is used under license
from VoiceAge Corporation  Copyright (c) 1998,1999, 2000 VoiceAge
Corporation.  All rights reserved.  
RealNetworks Basic Authenticator:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Vorbis Renderer Plugin:
(c) 2001 Xiphophorus, All Rights Reserved
Helix Renderer Plugin for Macromedia Flash 4:
Contains Macromedia(R) Flash Player technology by Macromedia, Inc. 
Copyright (c) 1995-2000 Macromedia, Inc. All rights reserved.  Copyright
(c) 1995-2002 RealNetworks, Inc. All rights reserved.
Helix GIF Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks MPEG-4 Audio Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks Mpeg4 File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix WBMP File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Surface/Site Window Factory Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks RN5 Authenticator:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks Digest Authenticator:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks Memory File System:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix Wireless BMP Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix RealPix JPEG File Format Codec Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix RealPix JPEG Renderer Codec Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks SDP Stream Description Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix PNG File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks RMA Driver Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks RMA Driver Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks Brush File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks Brush Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks XML Parser Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Ogg File Format Plugin:
(c) 2001 Xiphophorus, All rights reserved.
Helix PCM Audio Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix WAVE File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks AU File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix AIFF File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
Helix AMR File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks MPEG-4 Audio Renderer Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks HTTP File System with CHTTP Support:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks RFC 2397 Data Scheme File System:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.
RealNetworks MP3 File Format Plugin:
Copyright(c) RealNetworks, Inc. 1995-2004. All rights reserved. Source code
for this program is available under the RealNetworks Public Source License.

 Appunto. Non supporta tutti i formati visti da realplayer.
Sì, ho visto purtroppo. Comunque per quella cosa del chroot...
sinceramente non mi va di farlo. Non lo so: vedo che il mio sistema gira
benissimo e non mi va di incasinarlo mettendoci un "ubuntu" virtuale a
32bit; per quelle cose uso VMware che non fa danni.
Oh...farò così: usero la virtual machine. Certo che è una palla! Cerco
wine...e non c'è! Cerco Real Player... e non c'è! Cerco mondo... e non
c'è! UFFI!!! Ma il 64 bit non doveva rimpiazzare tutto nel giro di poco
tempo?
Grazie comunque per le numerose risposte. La forza di Linux sta nella
sua comunità, di cui noi facciamo parte. Aiutare il prossimo è come
aiutare se stesso.
---
Alex

 tempo?
No, perchè alcuni programmi sono proprietari e non hanno la minima idea
a cimentarsi per ricompilare a 64 bit...
Ah, sì, come finale, anche openoffice è un'applicazione a 32 bit ed è
buona norma averlo nella chroot, ma per fortuna per openoffice ci sono
delle scorciatoie...
Andrej