Newsgroup: it.comp.os.win.win9x
Titolo: Configurare TCP/IP di Win98 per router ADSL

Ciao a tutti,
ho comprato un modem/router ADSL (US Robotics), configurato con un
portatile (con su WIN XP) funziona benissimo sia collegandolo con il
cavo sia in wireless.
Ecco il problema, ho un (vecchio) pc con win98SE e vorrei usarlo per
navigare in internet. Ho una scheda di rete Realtek 10/100, come devo
configurare il protocollo TCP/IP?
Ho provato a lasciare tutto automatico...e non funziona. (nessuna
risposta dal ping 192.168.1.1, il router)
Ho provato a mettere IP e subnet manuali, gateway = indirizzo IP del
router...NULLA, come sopra.
Il bello che se inserisco l'IP di un portatile WIN98 rileva
giustamente un conflitto di rete...ma come mai allora non mi va
internet?
Qualcuno sa dove sbaglio? C'entrano i DNS? Ma allora mi dovrebbe cmq
pingare il router....

 pingare il router.... 
Se funzionasse SI !
Purtroppo la rete con win98 ha sempre avuto comportamenti strani in 
parte risolti con win98se ma non del tutto.
Non so dove sbagli, e' possibile che tu sbagli qualcosa, ma non ti 
meravigliare se disinstallando il protocollo tcp/ip e reinstallandolo 
(stessa configurazione) dopo funziona !!
Comunque disinstalla tutti i servizi e i protocolli reinstalla solo il 
tcp/ip e fai una configurazione manuale ;  coerente con il resto della 
rete metti dei dns validi e come gateway l'ip del router.
Dopodiche' dovresti navigare.... e se non funziona vedi cosa succede, 
nel caso controlla anche i driver della scheda di rete se necessari fai 
un aggiornamento o una reinstallazione.
Non so cosa devi fare con questo pc ma hai provato a lanciare una 
versione live di Linux ( es. Ubuntu ) se ti riconosce le periferiche che 
ti servono puoi anche installarlo vedrai che e' meglio di Win98 !!!
Per impieghi generici (es Internet e posta) le distribuzioni attuali di 
Linux sono alla portata di tutti... ++++ di Vista. Per i vecchi pc 
spesso questa e' "la soluzione".
ciao
m

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Maria, per prima cosa grazie della risposta.
Ho provato a reinstallare il TCP/IP ma niente da fare...ho solo il
Client accesso alla reti Microsoft, la scheda di rete Realtek e il
protocollo TCP/IP installato.
Ubuntu e tutte le versioni di Linux moderne hanno bisogno di più Ram
di quel macinino (che ne ha 256).
Che pensi se installo WinXP Home Edition? (Pentium III 800 - 256 Mb
RAM, credo..ho comprato un banco da 128 su ebay + 2 x 64Mb che avevo
già, il PC è più veloce ma anche se stacco una delle tre schede DIMM
mem mi dà sempre 128Mb installati, anche con una sola scheda da 64,
con win98 che ci mette 5 minuti ad avviarsi!!!)
PS. So che comprare un PC fisso nuovo (sui 2 portatili router e wifi
vanno alla grande) è la soluzione più semplice, ma ormai è una sfida,
voglio vedere quel Ping 192.168.1.1

 con win98 che ci mette 5 minuti ad avviarsi!!!)
Io uso tranquillamente la Slackware 11.0 su di un Pentium III 800 con 
soli 128 MByte di RAM.
E come server va ottimamente (vedi URL in firma).
Se usi un X manager leggero (come xfce o fwvm) è più che accettabile 
ma forse anche KDE gira senza intoppi.
Ciao
Giovanni
-- 
   A computer is like an air conditioner,
   it stops working when you open Windows.
   Registered Linux user #337974  < 
http://giovanni.homelinux.net/
 >

 di quel macinino (che ne ha 256).
Perche' , esistono solo le *buntu ?
sai quante distribuzioni girano tranquillamente su quella macchina ?
tanto per citarne alcune (le mie preferite) :
vectorlinux,zenwalk,slackware,puppylinux,dsl,arch,absolute ...
PS dai un'occhiata qui :
http://distrowatch.com
http://saxenos.de
-- 
Usare un PC e' possibile ,altro e' saperlo fare, 
piu' il tempo passa, meno ci riesco . 
2.6.23.11

 Quotare umanamente ... Grazie !
Me lo fanno notare in tanti, boh. Mi sa che google gruppi non è il
massimo in quanto a quoting.
Comunque quale distribuzione consigliereste? Considerate che non ho
avrò proprio tempo di smanettarci dopo il 7 gennaio, mi servirebbe un
bel file .iso da scaricare, gli faccio fare il boot da CD e fa tutto
da sè (in particolare per i driver), esiste? Mi sa che chiedo
troppo...

Marko wrote: [CUT]
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Io proverei vectorlinux .
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 va una cippa di nulla
Mai sentita una MINCHIATA piu' grande.
Cosi' come quella che win9x non gestisce piu' IP e di classi diverse...
Si fa presto a dire che una cosa non si puo' fare se non la si sa fare. 

girls
through the farce of asking them if they are desirous of liberty, and
when they say no, proclaim triumphantly to the world that "there isn't
a slave girl in Chinatown." These officers deceive others by these
falsehoods, but they know too well the conditions to be themselves
deceived.
When certain Chinese girls appeared before a committee appointed to
investigate conditions at San Francisco, the members of the committee
were put under promise not to divulge their names or stories, as
"their lives would not be safe for five years to come," if the
brothel-keepers and their former owners knew that they had informed
against them. It is a little difficult to describe the various secret
societies of Chinatown in full, but for practical purposes and as
relates to the welfare of Chinese women, it may be said that the
secret society, or tong, is a sort of mutual benefit society and has
generally a very commendable sort of name; but it exists to divide the
profits of the trade in women, among other villainies. When anyone
gives any evidence against such a society, or informs a rescue worker
where a girl will be found who desires her liberty, then some one from
the tong that has a special interest in the profits of that girl's
slavery, deposits a sum of money in a place mutually arranged for, and
the highbinder society undertakes for the sum paid to see that the
informer is assassinated within twenty-four hours. That is the length
of time usually claimed for the act. But sometimes years may pass
before the marked victim can be traced and killed.
We will next give a few cases from the records of the Presbyterian and
Methodist Mission Rescue Homes of San F

the attention they
deserved. It seems to us not at all amazing, when one reads this past
history, that by the time Chinese girls have seen and learned all that
they must in the Colony of Hong Kong, when brought to this country
they are utterly incredulous as to the good faith of police and other
officials. They must enter a complaint at the risk of their lives, and
if the officer of the law will not prosecute the case in spite of all
its difficulties (which are largely imaginary on the part of lukewarm
officials), then the girl must be returned to the master she has
informed against, to be in his power for him to vent his wrath upon
her. A case in point occurred in Oakland only a few months ago, and we
had a chance to interview the girl. The Captain of Police went through
the brothels of Oakland's Chinatown, accompanied by some missionary
ladies, in order to discover if possible any girls who would
acknowledge that they wished to come away. Every girl was questioned,
in the absence of the keepers, and not one, or perhaps only one, said
she wished to come away. There were some one hundred and fifty Chinese
slave girls in Oakland at this time, and one might say they all had a
chance to escape, and of their own will chose to remain. But was that
the truth? Not at all; the result did not prove at all that one, and
only one wished to come away. It proved merely that only one was
inspired with sufficient confidence and courage, after her long,
hard experience with foreigners, to _say what she wished._ It is the
universal testimony of all the girls who have been rescued, so we have
been told, by those who have been engaged in this rescu

terrible truth of these words. A sympathetic
    shade of sorrow and anxiety crossed her bright face. She, too, was
    a rescued girl and had not forgotten the dark, mysterious ways
    of Chinatown. The Superintendent rose to answer the summons of a
    small electric bell. Two trusted detectives had arrived. After
    a short conference, the rescuing party set forth on its strange
    mission. One who had eagerly thought and planned for the success
    of the undertaking felt her heart throbbing between hope and fear,
    but was reassured when a slender hand slipped into hers and a
    sweet, encouraging voice whispered: "I have faith to believe God
    will give us the girl." Faith triumphed that day. Through two of
    Chinatown's most desolate old tenements, upstairs and downstairs
    in dark closets and unexpected corners, while Highbinders uttered
    imprecations in the alleys below, the rescue party kept up a
    diligent search for many hours. When at last the quest was about
    to be abandoned as hopeless, suddenly a cry of success echoed
    through every gloomy corner of the old building--Seen Fah was
    found! A small, dark closet, overlooked in the earlier hours of
    the search, was discovered. A lighted candle soon revealed a pile
    of empty rice bags and broken boxes. Pulling these away, the
    object of the long search was discovered, nearly smo