Newsgroup: it.comp.os.win.win9x
Titolo: PCMCIA

Ho installato Windows 98SE su di un portatile ACER (un Pentium II).
Tutti i componenti sono stati riconosciuti, a parte scheda audio e
scheda video, i cui driver li ho dovuti recuperare dal sito ACER.
I driver per le PCMCIA sono quelli standard di Windows 98SE, anche
perche' sul sito ACER non vi sono altri driver a parte quelli per
audio e video.
Se inserisco una scheda PCMCIA funzionante, ad esempio un modem,
questa viene riconosciuta e la posso utilizzare tranquillamente
senza alcun problema. Quando pero' vado a rimuovere la scheda
dallo slot (dopo averla precedentemente "fermata") il sistema
si blocca, non subito, alle volta basta muovere il cursore, o
tentare di attivare il menu' Start, o fare una qualsiasi altra
cosa. Comuque sia, devo spegnere la macchina via interruttore
e riavviare il tutto.
Se la medesima scheda non viene rimossa non si ha il minimo
problema.
Qualche suggerimento?
Grazie.

 problema.
 >
 > Qualche suggerimento?
Non rimuovere la scheda a pc acceso.
Pure il mio portatile si inchioda se gli sfilo la PCMCIA quando e' acceso.

 Pure il mio portatile si inchioda se gli sfilo la PCMCIA quando e' acceso.
Le altre macchine permettono normalmente la rimozione dalla scheda
PCMCIA una volta che questa e' stata fermata. Mi piacerebbe che anche
quella si comportasse come le altre, e dato che non vi sono conflitti
(per lo meno segnalati) e tutto "sembrerebbe" a posto, vorrei almeno
capire il perche' di tale anomalo comportamento.

 PCMCIA una volta che questa e' stata fermata.
Io l'unica pcmcia che possiedo e' una scheda di rete su un vecchio 
portatile toshiba con su win98.
E quelle volte che inavvertitamente mi e' fuoriuscita, il pc si e' 
inchiodato.
Ho concluso che le pcmcia non si possono mettere e togliere a pc acceso 
(del resto il plug and play e' una cosa che non ha mai funzionato: 
ricordate tutti che cosa successe in diretta mondiale al lancio di 
win98, quando cercarono di connettere uno scanner e lo schermo divento' 
blu!).
Ora tu mi dici che hai delle macchine in cui metti e togli PCMCIA.
Boh!

 Boh!
Credo di capire...
-- 
Mah! (cit.)

 Ora tu mi dici che hai delle macchine in cui metti e togli PCMCIA.
Non tutti gli OS supportano hot swap; cosi' come non tutti i drivers
e/o hardware; avevo un laptop con win95 B (4.00.1111) che funzicava
da dio in hot swap PCMCIA ma che dopo l'upgrade a 98 (causa drivers)
tale funzionalita' si e' dissolta (schermate blu come se piovessero).
Comunque PCMCIA _nasce_ per essere hot swap.

 
Si, ma questo NG non verte sull'hardware hot swap, ma su un SO 
microsoft, che, come tutti i SO microsoft, se ne frega altamente se 
l'hardware sia hot swap, p'n'p, o altro. ;-)
Il SO microsoft *pretende* di imporsi sull'hardware e se non ci riesce 
diventa blu.
Quindi c'e' poco da espellere PCMCIA, o estrarre chiavette USB senza 
prima chiedere ed ottenere autorizzazione dal SO.

 prima chiedere ed ottenere autorizzazione dal SO.
Cavolo... ho un portatile con 98 posseduto, allora.
c'e' un esorciccio in sala ? 

 ed ottenere autorizzazione dal SO.
Che viene, anche nel caso dell'ACER che si inchioda, fornita tramite
una finestrella che dice "Ora e' possibile rimuovere la scheda" con
un bel pulsante [_OK_]. Peccato che dopo aver premuto l'OK e rimosso
la scheda la macchina si pianti comunque.
Su altre macchine, chiedo l'"autorizzazione al SO", la "ottengo" e
poi posso tranquillamente rimuovere la PCMCIA e continuare a lavorare
senza intoppi. Su quell'ACER _ottengo_ il permesso di rimuovere la
scheda da parte del SO, solo che tale permesso "non corrisponde a
verita'", dato che il SO si inca%%a e si pianta.
Quindi il problema, qualunque esso sia, deve risiedere da qualche
altra parte. E quale parte sia, forse non lo sa nemmeno il (p)SO
(nessun conflitto riscontrato, ecc., ecc.)

 la scheda la macchina si pianti comunque.
http://fyad.org/rvui
--
Fosco

Scrive Fosco:
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LOL
Si', ma non ho visto alcuna opzione relativa agli slot PiCiMiCIA...
E comunque, come si fa ad attivare tale menu', eh?
re-LOL
L'ultima opzione delle "Misc" si avvicina pero' molto alla realta',
o almeno a quanto M$ _desidererebbe_ ardentemente.

vessels which
approached China in the earliest days. They sold their wares to the
foreigners; they piloted their boats into port; they did the laundry
work for the ships. In many ways they showed friendliness to the
foreigners while as yet the landsman viewed the new-comers with
suspicion. Their women were grossly corrupted by contact with the
foreign voyagers and sailors.
Hong Kong was a long way off at the beginning of the nineteenth
century, when Great Britain began to send Government-manufactured
opium from India to China, and when China prohibited the trade the
drug was smuggled in. When Chinese officials at last rose up to check
this invasion by foreign trade, wars followed in which China was
worsted, and the island of Hong Kong, together with the Kowloon
peninsula, became a British possession as war indemnity. Hong Kong
is a "mere dot in the ocean less than twenty-seven miles in
circumference," and when Great Britain took possession its inhabitants
were limited to "a few fishermen and cottagers."
The Tankas helped the British in many ways in waging these wars, and
when peace was established went to live with them on the island. This
action on the part of these "river people" is significant as showing
as much or more attachment to the foreigner than to the other classes
of Chinese. There seems al

majority of
    them are owned by professional brothel-keepers or traders in women
    in Canton or Macao, have been brought up for the profession, and
    trained in various accomplishments suited to brothel life.... They
    frequently know neither father nor mother, except what they call
    a 'pocket-mother,' that is, the woman who bought them from
    others.... They feel of course that they are the bought property
    of their pocket-mother or keeper, but they know also that this is
    the feeling of almost every other woman in China, liable as each
    is to be sold, by her own parents or relatives, to be the wife or
    concubine of a man she never sets eyes on before the wedding day,
    or liable, as the case may be, to be pledged or sold, by her
    parents or relatives, to serve as a domestic slave in a strange
    family.... They have the chance, if they are pretty and
    accomplished, of being wooed ... and they may look forward with
    tolerable certainty to being made the second, or third, or fourth,
    or at any rate the favorite wife of some wealthy gentleman. If
    not possessed of special attractions or wealthy lovers, they look
    forward to being taken out of the brothel by an honest devoted man
    to share the lot of a poor man's wife. Or they may endeavor to
    save money by singing, music and prostitution combined, and not
    only to purchase their freedom, but to set up for themselves,
    buying, rearing, and selling girls to act as servants or
    concubines or prostitutes, or they may finally come to keep
    brothels as managers for wealthy capitalists or speculators. There
    is further a certain proportion of prostitutes in Hong Kong who
    have, by the hand of their own parents or husbands, bee

or
    otherwise dedicated to immoral purposes. But the enormous extent
    to which slavery in this Colony has grown up has called into
    existence a greatly increasing traffic, especially in women and
    children. The number of Chinamen in this Colony has increased and
    is increasing rapidly, whilst their great increase in wealth has
    fostered licentious habits, notably in buying women for purposes
    sanctioned neither by the laws nor customs on the mainland. I hold
    in my hand a placard in Chinese, torn down from the wall of the
    Central School, Cough Street steps, in this city. The translation
    appears at length in the Hong Kong _Daily Press of_ August
    15th, 1879. The purport of that translation is shortly that the
    advertiser, one Cheong, has lost a purchased slave girl named Tai
    Ho, aged 13 years. After a full description of the girl a reward
    is offered in these terms:--'If there is in either of the four
    quarters any worthy man who knows where she is gone to, and will
    send a letter, he will be rewarded with four full weight dollars,
    and the person detaining the slave will be rewarded with fifteen
    full weight dollars.' These words are subsequently added:--'This
    is firm, and the words will not be eaten.' I recently spoke in
    reprobation of slavery from this Bench, and in consequence of my
    remarks a gentleman who tore down this placard gave it to the
    editor of the _Daily Press_, and in a letter in that paper he
    stated that such placards are common, and that he had torn down a

they would be
protected. But what reason have they for believing this is the case,
after the years of training they have had in the perfidy of all those
with whom they come in contact! Many girls have been rescued on this
Pacific Coast, by brave missionary workers. But it is to the lasting
shame of our country that such wicked creatures are allowed to exist
here to import these slaves. Imprison the importers, and the slaves
are rescued. That is the short road to freedom. But that was not the
path pursued by officials in general at Hong Kong, nor is that course
being pursued in the United States. This sewing woman has been
returned to her home. Many another woman has at equal peril to herself
made her complaint and it has fallen upon the deaf ears of officials,
and the poor slave has had to settle with her masters for her
fool-hardiness.
Now we will return to Hong Kong, and to past history. We will cite
just one more case to show something of the reluctance of officials
there to prosecute the traffickers in human flesh. A Chinaman, Tsang
San-Fat, petitioned the Colonial Secretary at Hong Kong in regard to
the custody of his little daughter, whom, "under stress of poverty,"

all these laws. I must,
    therefore, without fear, favour or affection, discharge this duty
    to the best of my ability."
CHAPTER 10.
NOT FALLEN--BUT ENSLAVED.
The Report of the Commission affords the following instructive
account of the difference in the moral and social status between the
prostitute of the East and West:
    "In approaching the subject of prostitution, as it is found in
    Hong Kong at the present day, it is absolutely necessary for a
    full and just comprehension of it, to keep in mind two distinct
    considerations. One is the almost total identity of the whole
    system of prostitution, which since times immemorial is an
    established institution all over the large empire of China. The
    other point to be kept in mind is the radical difference
    which distinguishes the personal character, the life and the
    surroundings of Chinese prostitutes from all that is
    characteristic of the prostitutes of Europe." ... "At the present
    day the Chinese prostitutes of Hong Kong have but very little to
    distinguish them, either in the past, present, or future of their
    personal lives, or in their position and surroundings, from
    the prostitutes of the 18 provinces of China.... Those of the
    prostitutes of Hong Kong who are inmates of brothels licensed for
    foreigners only, or who live in sly brothels for foreigners,
    have adopted a different style of dress, but are otherwise in no
    essential point differently situated from prostitutes in China,
    except that the inmates of brothels licensed for foreigners are
    subject to compulsory medical examination, and consequently far
    more despised by their countrymen and even other prostitutes."
    "Prostitutes in Europe are, as a general rule, fallen women,
    the victims of seduction, or possibly of innate vice. Being the
    outcasts of society, and having little, if any, prospect of being
    again adm

houses and arresting keepers without
    warrant, no serious difficulty whatever, so far as the records
    show,--and we have paid special attention to the point,--seems to
    have been experienced under the previous enactments in bringing
    the keepers of such houses before the court.... Nor can we in
    the second place find among the foregoing records proof of the
    necessity of the transfer to the Registrar General of the judicial
    powers.... As a matter of fact, witnesses do not seem to have been
    at all squeamish in divulging repulsive details in open Court,
    nor, on the other hand, do the magistrates ever seem to have shown
    too exacting a disposition as to the nature or amount of the
    evidence they required to sustain convictions; and the astonishing
    system of detection which had grown up had met, so far as we can
    see, with neither discouragement nor remonstrance."
We pause to lift our hearts to God in prayer before venturing to lift
the curtain and disclose even a faint outline of the reign of terror
now instituted over poor, horror-stricken Chinese women of the humbler
ranks of life at Hong Kong. But, in order that we may understand the
conditions under which the slave women coming to our Pacific Coast
have lived in times past, the recital is necessary. Happy for us if we
never needed to know any of these dark chapters of human history and
human wrongs! Sad indeed for the thoughtless, and bringing only harm,
if such an account as we have to give should be read merely out of
curiosity or for entertainment. There is either ennoblement or injury
in what we have to say, according to the spirit brought