Newsgroup: it.comp.os.win.win9x
Titolo: 56k e Adsl Alice

Ciao a tutti !
Volevo sapere se qualcuno sapesse risolvere questo enigma.
In pratica, il mese scorso, dopo un trasloco, sono stato un bel pezzo senza
adsl in attesa che la telecom me lo riattivasse nel nuovo appartamento.
in pratica, in questo periodo, ho cercato in tutti i modi, nell'attesa di
Alice adsl, di connettermi provvisoriamente con il mio win98 in internet con
il mio modem analogico a 56k, ma con amara sorpresa ho visto che non
funzionava più.
in pratica, quando facevo la connessione, il tutto avveniva tranquillamente
e nella tray vicino all'orologio risultavo connesso con il 56k, ma se
cercavo di navigare con il browsers (Opera, firefox e internet Explorer) mi
usciva sempre "impossibile visualizzare la pagina" e non potevo neanche
scaricare aggiornamenti antivirus e di altri software; naturalmente non mi
funzionava neanche il P2P.
inizialmente pensavo che era il modem, ma se voglio inviare un fax mi funge
tranquillamente, e poi ho provato a connettermi con accesso remoto anche con
il modem del cellulare collegato via usb con il gestore 3, ed è stata la
stessa e identica cosa; quindi non è un problema di modem.
L'unica cosa che potrebbe venirmi a mente e che il software dato in
dotazione della telecom di Alice avesse modificato tutto il sistema; infatti
per connettermi ad internet adsl lo posso fare solo tramite questo software
lasciato da loro xchè win98 non riconosce il modem di Alice (un gateway
collegato alla presa USB) come un modem, quindi non è possibile collegarsi
ad internet con l'accesso remoto di win98 ma solo con questo software che fa
una sorta di emulazione di accesso remoto.
C'è qualcuno di voi qui che ha avuto lo stesso problema ?
Oppure sapete da cosa può dipendere tutto questo ?
Aspetto magari qualche vostra delucidazione; ora l'adsl mi è stata ativata
ma mi farebbe piacere sapere da cosa è dipeso tutto.
Ciao
Francesco bat
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 il mio modem analogico a 56k...
Puo' collegarsi solo come se fosse un ''telefono''...; per entrare in rete,
dovresti avere quindi l'accesso ad un numero telefonico, della serie
702.xxx.xxxx...
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 Ciao!
Si, infatti !
Ho fatto cosě e con tutti i numeri possibili e inimmaginabili (quelli della 
Telecom, con il numero di DigitelItalia (altro operatore con cui mi ero 
iscritto), con quello della 3) ma il risultato purtroppo č sempre lo 
stesso: mi commetto e la connessione risulta sempre avvenuta sul pc, ma non 
riesco ne a trasmettere e ne a ricevere i dati da remoto.
Ciao
Francesco bat

 Ho fatto cosě e con tutti i numeri possibili e inimmaginabili...
...
La ''connessione'' riesce ?
Ossia, uno di essi ti chiede ''username'' e ''password'' ?... ;-)))
Non avrei altre idee...

"Tino" <tin....@tin.it.invalid> wrote in 
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Si !
La connessione riesce.
Verifica dei login e password riusciti, si vede anche i monitorini accesi 
vicino all'orologio, il tempo che trascorre con la connessione, ma come se 
non ci fosse una vera č propria trasmissione di dati effettiva.
Ciao
Francesco bat

 non ci fosse una vera è propria trasmissione di dati effettiva.
Prova a lanciare il winipcfg e tenerlo aperto, con tutti i dettagli, 
mentre ti connetti.
Dopo user e password, dovrebbe visualizzarsi un indirizzo IP ricevuto da 
remoto, e a quel punto la macchina e' in rete.
Se poi non riesci ad aprire le pagine, a quel punto e' un problema diverso.

 
Ho fatto l'esperimento con "winipcfg" e ho salvato le 2 schermate del 
programma, durante la connessione con il 56k, in formato immagine con 
irfanview.
Ora come faccio a capire qual'è il numero ip ?
Nelle schermate ci sono vari campi, compreso il campo DNS, ma non trovo un 
campo con il nome: numero IP.
Ciao
Francesco bat

and I will pursue it
    here." The Attorney General:--"You have publicly directed it;
    and I will report it to the proper quarter." His Lordship:--"The
    Attorney General at home is constantly ordered by the Court to
    prosecute. On my responsibility alone I do this." The Attorney
    General:--"May I ask your Lordship to say on what charge?" His
    Lordship:--"Under Sections 50 and 51 of No. 4 of 1865, and also
    for assault." The Attorney General continued to raise objections,
    when the Chief Justice said: "I have said as much as I choose to
    say, and I will not be put to question by the Attorney General. If
    you have any difficulty, come to the Court in Chambers."
Governor Hennessy, in reporting the incident to the Secretary of State
at London, adds: "I sent a note to the Attorney General, saying I
thought that the prosecution suggested by the Chief Justice should
take place; but it was found that the accused parties were not in the
Colony." After this manner many cases brought to the attention of the
officers of the law by parents or guardians of children of kidnaping
and trading in girls and children failed to secure the attention they
deserved. It seems to us not at all amazing, when one reads this past
history, that by the time Chinese girls have seen and learned all that
they must in the Colony of Hong Kong, when brought to this country
they are utterly incredulous as to the good faith of police and other
officials. They must enter a complaint at the risk of their lives, and
if the of

from the Chinese standpoint a religious duty for
a father to leave a son, upon his death, to continue the family
sacrifices. Therefore if the father has no son by his first wife, he
will "take a second or third or fourth wife until he procures a son."
"A family being in urgent distress, and requiring immediately a
certain sum of money, take one of their female children, say five
years old ... to a wealthy family, where the child becomes a member of
the family, and has, perhaps, to look after a baby.... But the child
may be sold out and out. In that case invariably a deed is drawn up."
And this is the state of things concerning which Dr. Eitel says: "Few
foreigners have comprehended the extent of social equality ... the
amount of influence which woman, bought and sold as she is, really
has in China ... the depth of domestic affection, of filial piety, of
parental care," etc.
He adds:
    "Considering the deep hold which this system has on the Chinese
    people, it is not to be wondered at that Chinese can scarcely
    comprehend how an English judge could come to designate this
    species of domestic servitude as 'slavery.' On the contrary,
    intelligent Chinese look upon this system as the necessary and
    indispensable complement of polygamy, as an excellent counter
    remedy for the deplorably wide-spread system of infanticide, and
    as the natural consequence of the chronic occurrence of famines,
    inundations, and rebellions in an over-populated coun

societies have
been formed that will either kidnap such a girl or kill her. So she
declares in court that she consents freely to be returned to the
brothel, and an extraordinary misconstruction of the doctrine of the
"liberty of the person," leaves the judge with nothing to do but to
deliver the girl over to compulsory voluntariness. Again, Chinese
young men do not wish to marry liberated Chinese girls, but they go,
rather, to the brothel and buy a wife; and for much the same reason.
If a man marries the liberated slave of a brothel keeper, the
high-binders will teach the lesson that he has stolen another man's
property, by watching their chance and assassinating him. Why are not
these societies broken up, root and branch? Cannot? Nonsense; the
officers of the law have not made the attempt with any degree of
earnestness as yet.
For years, the "Protectors" at Singapore and at Hong Kong have
summoned the slaves into their offices and informed them that they
were free, and asked them if they freely cons

Secretary of State for the Colonies] has now justly
    stigmatized as a revolting abuse. On another point the Attorney
    General also seems not to appreciate fully what he must have heard
    Sir John Smale saying from the Bench in the Supreme Court. It
    would be a mistake to think that the Chief Justice had not before
    he left the Colony, realized the public opinion of the Chinese
    community on the subject of kidnaping. In sentencing a prisoner
    for kidnaping, on the 10th of March, 1881, Sir John Smale said he
    was bound to declare from the Bench that, to the credit of the
    Chinese, a right public opinion had been growing up, and on the
    25th of March, 1881, (the last occasion when Sir John Smale spoke
    in the Supreme Court of Hong Kong), he said, in a case in
    which the kidnapers had been convicted--This case presents two
    satisfactory facts first, that a Chinese boat woman handed one of
    these prisoners to the police, and that afterward an agent of the
    Chinese Society to suppress this class of crime caused the arrest
    and conviction of these prisoners. These facts are indicative of
    the public mind tending to treat kidnaping as a crime against
    society, calling for active suppression. On the same occasion, in
    sentencing a woman who had severely beaten an adopted child, Sir
    John Smale said, 'In finally disposing of these three cases, with
    al

debt because of sickness, and in
    order to pay the money, she was induced by an uncle of Su-a-Kiu to
    apply to the latter for help. Su-a-Kiu promised to advance her the
    money, $52, if A-Ho would serve her eight months in a brothel kept
    by a "friend" of the woman in Singapore. A-Ho's stress was so
    great that she entered into these hard terms, the woman paying her
    $52 at the steamer, as it was going, and A-Ho handed it to her
    grandfather to pay her debt. A-Ho left on the "26th of the 8th
    moon" for Singapore. On the evening of "the fourth day of the 10th
    moon" he received a letter from A-Ho to the effect that she had
    been sold for $250, to another party. When the grandfather went
    to Su-a-Kiu and asked her why she had sold his granddaughter, she
    cajoled him by promising to take him to Singapore to see A-Ho.
    Later, the man who lived with Su-a-Kiu, came and threatened to
    accuse him of extortion, acknowledging of himself that he "lived
    by selling women into brothels of Singapore." The grandfather
    reported the case to the Registrar-General. The woman
    Su-a-Kiu stated: "I took A-Ho to Singapore. I took her to the
    "Sai-Shing-Tong Brothel" in Macao Street. She is still in that
    brothel." The Registrar-General ordered her to find security in
    the sum of $100 to appear to answer any charge within the next
    three months. The grandfather was also ordered to find similar
    security in the sum of $70.
    The girl A-Ho, in seeking to pay her debt contracted through
    sickness, by servitude for eight months, was entrapped and sold as
    a slave for life, and the Registrar-General, when acquainted
    with the facts, seems to have taken no steps to punish this
    slave-trader. Governor Hennessey, in calling the attention of the
    Home Gover

leading to the second story of the
    buildings occupied by these shops. The school children cannot pass
    by without noting these officially numbered houses, and seeing
    the girls sitting at all hours of the day and into the night
    conspicuously in the balconies over the shops of drapers, grocers,
    tailors, silk-merchants, shoe-dealers, &c., &c., and often hearing
    them calling to each other from house to house, and to the men in
    the public streets below. Mrs. Andrew, when in the street, March
    2nd, saw a group of these slave-women calling down to three
    policemen, who were looking up and laughing at them. These are
    daily sights."
The unblushing parade of forms of vice, which have been manufactured
in the Orient especially to meet the demands of renegade members of
Christian civilization, can be seen in a peculiarly painful and brazen
form in the city of Hong Kong.
While we were at Hong Kong, there occured a great celebration in honor
of the repair and rededication of an important Buddhist temple.
There was a grand procession, and many thousands of Chinese from the
mainland came over to witness the celebration. The parade formed in
the early morning and went at once to the residence of the Governor to
do him honor, after which it marched through the principal streets of
the city. It was a curious, interesting, and withal a painful sight,
in some regards not unlike industrial parades in our own country. At
night we saw something totally unique and difficult to describe to
those who have not witnessed the same in China. Men bore aloft great
dragons and fishes innumerable, of all sizes and shapes, (but very
true to life), given a natural color and lighted up within, like
Chinese lanterns. These were held aloft on the ends of long poles, and
as the men who carried them were invisible, because of the dar

being should
be allowed to deal with another _as a chattel_ at all.
This attitude of the Chinese merchants who allied themselves with the
British officials for the Protection of Women and Children gave no
omen of good from the very first. Yet from that day to the present
these men have had a large share in the government of the native
women of Hong Kong and Singapore, rendering it very difficult ever
to elevate the standard of womanhood, or to educate Chinese women in
principles that should be the common inheritance of all who live in a
so called free country.
The statement continues:
    "Since the last few years many Chinese have brought their
    property, wives and families to the place, supposing they would
    be able to live here in peace, and to rejoice in their property.
    ...Chinese residents of Hong Kong have, therefore, been in
    the habit of following all native customs which were not a
    contravention of Chinese statute law [but it seems _this sort_ of
    buying and selling of human beings is contrary to Chinese law.
    This is a misrepresentation]. It is said that the whole increase
    and prosperity of the Colony from its first foundation to the
    present day is all based on the strength of t

know or
appreciate the present situation who did not know the conditions
of the things in the past, but now he thought they had the best
arrangement possible for protecting the women and girls, and
exclaimed, "But if this ordinance were abolished I do not know what
would become of them." He confessed at the close of our talk that he
would like to speak freely to us about certain things connected with
the work which could not be mentioned publicly, and said there were
"perplexities--great perplexities." Yet at the beginning of the
conversation, when speaking of the criticism passed upon the
Protectorate's work, he had said, "Why do they not come here for
information instead of going about criticising? our books are all
open to public inspection." But we had noticed that throughout the
interview he kept the books in his own hands, and only allowed us to
see what he himself turned up for our inspection.
Now as to some of this official's statements--we deal with them, not
with the object of criticising his _personal_ opinions and views and
statements, but as an _official_ representation to us of a Government
institution.
To begin with, he had told us two absolute falsehoods, at least. One
was that there was no Lock Hospital at Singapore, whereas we had
visited this Government institution and by careful inspection found it
was used for _the one purpose only_, having no equipment for 

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