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Titolo: Possibile che nessuno lo sa?

Per favore aiutatemi. Cerco il modo per avviare di default il sistema col
file di registro.
Ho provato anche ad installare TweakUI e X-Setup, ma non c' e' questa
possibilita' (si puo' solo fare in modo che compaia il menu' di scelta ad
ogni avvio).
Grazie. G.

 ogni avvio).
Hai guardato se tra le centinaia di Plugins per X-Setup c'è
qualcosa che ti possa servire ?
Sono stati fatti i Plugins più strani.....
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Non stare a diventare matto...:-) a cercare l'opzione in qualche utility
basta che aggiungi alla sezione [options] del file c:\msdos.sys
la stringa.....:
BootMenuDefault=2
Ciao, :-)
Walter

BootMenuDefault=2
Sei sicuro? Non ero io che avevo fatto la domanda, ma ho provato e qui
(W98SE) non funziona, non mi ha creato nessun nuovo bootlog.txt
durante i riavvii di oggi...
Ciao,
  Marco.

 Sei sicuro?
Al 99 % circa....
Posta il tuo msdos.sys e vediamo...:-)
Walter

 Walter
Grazzzzzieeeee!
Non sai che sollievo, che peso che mi hai tolto!

Posta il tuo msdos.sys e vediamo...:-)
Eccolo. È grave, dottore? :)
[Paths]
WinDir=C:\WINDOWS
WinBootDir=C:\WINDOWS
HostWinBootDrv=C
[Options]
BootMulti=1
BootGUI=1
BootMenuDefault=2
DoubleBuffer=1
AutoScan=1
WinVer=4.10.2222
;
;The following lines are required for compatibility with other
programs.
;Do not remove them (MSDOS.SYS needs to be >1024 bytes).
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxa
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxb
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxc
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxd
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxe
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxf
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxg
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxh
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxi
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxj
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxk
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxl
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxm
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxn
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxo
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxp
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxq
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxr
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxs
Logo=1
Ciao,
  Marco.

 Eccolo. È grave, dottore? :)
Cosè prendi per....?..:-(
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Tranne il fatto che  hai BootMulti=1 invece che =0
che consumi memoria.... abilitando il Drivespace
e che non usi la memoria alta....
io uso  queste opzioni e mi fa il bootlog.txt....bho?
[Paths]
WinDir=C:\WINDOWS
WinBootDir=C:\WINDOWS
HostWinBootDrv=C
[Options]
BootMulti=0
BootGUI=1
DoubleBuffer=1
AutoScan=1
BootMenu=1
DBLSpace=0
DRVSpace=0
BootDelay=4
Logo=0
BootMenuDefault=2
BootMenuDelay=58
LoadTop=1
WinVer=4.10.2222
;
;The following lines are required for compatibility with other programs.
;Do not remove them (MSDOS.SYS needs to be >1024 bytes).
...............
;xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxs
Ciao
W

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Ne sono lieto....
Forse perchč tu avevi posto la domanda correttamente....!:-)
Walter

 io uso  queste opzioni e mi fa il bootlog.txt....bho?
Mi puoi indirizzare verso un sito che spieghi come ottimizzare i vari
file "di base" come l'autoexec, il config, msdos...?
Grassie
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LoadTop=1
Che fa?
Grazie di tutto :).
Ciao,
  Marco.

 [il mio msdos.sys]
Contents of the Windows Msdos.sys File
-----------------------------------------
The information in this article applies to:
  a.. Microsoft Windows 95
  b.. Microsoft Windows 98
  c.. Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition
  d.. Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition
--------------------------------------------
SUMMARY
The Windows Setup program creates a file called Msdos.sys in the root folder
and sets the file with the Read-Only, System, and Hidden attributes. Unlike
the Msdos.sys file in MS-DOS, this file is a text file. It contains a
[Paths] section that lists the locations for other Windows files (such as
the registry) and an [Options] section that you can use to personalize the
boot process.
MORE INFORMATION
The [Paths] section can contain the following settings:
  a.. HostWinBootDrv=Root of Boot Drive
  Default: C
  Purpose: Specifies the location for the root of the boot drive.
  b.. UninstallDir=Root of Boot Drive
  Default: C
  Purpose: Specifies the location of the W95undo.dat and W95undo.ini files.
These files are necessary to uninstall Windows 95.
  NOTE: This setting is present only if you back up your system files when
you are prompted during Windows 95 Setup.
  c.. WinBootDir=Windows Folder
  Default: Folder specified during Setup (for example, C:\Windows)
  Purpose: Lists the location of the necessary files for booting.
  d.. WinDir=Windows Folder
  Default: Folder specified during Setup (for example, C:\Windows)
  Purpose: Lists the location of the Windows 95 folder specified during
Setup.
The [Options] section can contain the following settings. You must manually
insert these settings if you want to use them:
  a.. AutoScan=Number
  Default: 1
  Purpose: Defines whether or not ScanDisk is run after a bad shutdown. A se
tting of 0 does not run ScanDisk; 1 prompts before running ScanDisk; 2 does
not prompt before running ScanDisk but prompts you before fixing errors if
any errors are found.
  This setting is used only by OEM Service Release 2 and Windows 98.
  b.. BootDelay=Seconds Default: 2 Purpose: Sets the amount of time the
"Starting Windows" message remains on the screen before Windows 95 continues
to boot.
  NOTE: BootDelay is not supported in Windows 98.
  c.. BootSafe=Boolean
  Default: 0
  Purpose: A setting of 1 forces your computer to boot in Safe mode.
  d.. BootGUI=Boolean
  Default: 1
  Purpose: A setting of 1 forces the loading of the GUI interface. A setting
of 0 disables the loading of the GUI interface.
  e.. BootKeys=Boolean
  Default: 1
  Purpose: A setting of 1 enables the use of the function key boot options
(that is, F4, F5, F6, F8, and CTRL). A setting of 0 disables the use of
these function keys during the boot process
  NOTE: A setting of BootKeys=0 overrides the use of BootDelay=n.
  f.. BootMenu=Boolean
  Default: 0
  Purpose: A setting of 1 enables the Startup menu. If this setting is 0,
then you must press the F8 key when "Starting Windows 95" appears, (or press
and hold the CTRL key when your Windows 98-based computer restarts) to
invoke the Startup menu.
  g.. BootMenuDefault=Number
  Default: 1 if the system is running correctly; 3 if the system hung in the
previous instance
  Purpose: Use this setting to set the default menu item for startup.
  h.. BootMenuDelay=Number
  Default: 30
  Purpose: This setting is used to set the number of seconds your system
will pause on the Startup menu. If the number of seconds counts down to 0
without intervention, the BootMenuDefault is activated.
  NOTE: This option is not functional unless BootMenu=1 has been added to
the [Options] section of the Msdos.sys file.
  i.. BootMulti=Boolean
  Default: 1
  Purpose: A setting of 0 disables the multi-boot option. (For example, with
a setting of 0 you cannot boot your previous operating system.) A setting of
1 enables the F4 and F8 keys to boot your previous operating system.
  j.. BootWarn=Boolean
  Default: 1
  Purpose: A setting of 0 disables the Safe-mode boot warning message and
the Startup menu.
  k.. BootWin=Boolean
  Default: 1
  Purpose: A setting of 1 forces Windows 95 to load at startup. A setting of
0 disables Windows 95 as your default operating system (this is useful only
if you have MS-DOS version 5.x or 6.x on the computer).
  NOTE: Pressing F4 inverts the default only if BootMulti=1. (For example,
pressing the F4 key with a setting of 0 forces Windows 95 to load.)
  l.. DoubleBuffer=Boolean
  Default: 0
  Purpose: A setting of 1 is a conditional setting that enables double-
buffering for controllers that need it (for example, SCSI controllers). A
setting of 2 is an unconditional setting that enables double-buffering
regardless of whether the controller needs it or not.
  m.. DBLSpace=Boolean
  Default: 1
  Purpose: A setting of 1 allows the automatic loading of the DBLSPACE.BIN
file. A setting of 0 prevents the automatic loading of this file.
  NOTE: Windows 95 uses either Dblspace.bin or Drvspace.bin if either is
present in the root folder of the boot drive at startup. To disable a
compression driver from being loaded at startup, use both settings in the
Msdos.sys file. For example:
    DBLSpace=0
    DRVSpace=0
  n.. DRVSpace=Boolean
  Default: 1
  Purpose: A setting of 1 allows the automatic loading of the DRVSPACE.BIN
file. A setting of 0 prevents the automatic loading of this file.
  NOTE: Windows 95 uses either Dblspace.bin or Drvspace.bin if either is
present in the root folder of the boot drive at startup. To disable a
compression driver from being loaded at startup, use both settings in the
Msdos.sys file. For example:
    DBLSpace=0
    DRVSpace=0
  o.. LoadTop=Boolean
  Default: 1
  Purpose: A setting of 0 does not let Windows 95 load 
COMMAND.COM
 or
DRVSPACE.BIN/DBLSPACE.BIN at the top of 640K. If you are having
compatibility problems with software that makes assumptions about the
available memory try setting this to 0.
  p.. Logo=Boolean
  Default: 1
  Purpose: A setting of 1 forces the default Windows 95 logo to appear. A
setting of 0 prevents the animated logo from being displayed. A setting of 0
also avoids hooking a variety of interrupts that can create
incompatibilities with certain third-party memory managers.
  q.. Network=Boolean
  Default: 0
  Purpose: A setting of 1 means the network was installed and adds Safe mode
with network support as an option on the Windows 95 Startup menu.
Extra Characters in the Msdos.sys File
The Msdos.sys file also contains a section that contains seemingly useless
information. This information is necessary to support programs that expect
the Msdos.sys file to be at least 1,024 bytes in length. For example, if an
antivirus program detects that the Msdos.sys file is less than 1,024 bytes,
it may assume that the Msdos.sys file is infected with a virus. If you
delete the Msdos.sys file your computer will not start.
The following statement, followed by a series of "X"s, appears in the
Msdos.sys file:
  ;The following lines are required for compatibility with other programs.
  ;Do not remove them (Msdos.sys needs to be > 1024 bytes).
Because each line begins with a semicolon (;), the lines are not read by
Windows.
How to Edit the Msdos.sys File
If you want to change any of the values in the Msdos.sys file, follow these
steps to edit the file:
  1.. Click Start, point to Find, and then click Files Or Folders.
  2.. In the Named box, type msdos.sys. In the Look In box, click your boot
drive (usually drive C, or drive H if drive C is compressed). Click the Find
Now button.
  3.. Right-click the Msdos.sys file, and then click Properties.
  4.. Click to clear the Read-Only and Hidden check boxes to remove these
attributes from the Msdos.sys file, and then click OK.
  5.. Right-click the Msdos.sys file, and then click Open With.
  6.. In the Choose the program you want to use box, click WordPad, and then
click OK.
  7.. Make the changes you want to the Msdos.sys file. When you are done,
save the file as a text document, and then quit WordPad.
  8.. Right-click the Msdos.sys file, and then click Properties.
  9.. Select the Read-Only and Hidden check boxes to set the attributes for
the file, and then click OK. Close the Find window.
  10.. Restart Windows

   10.. Restart Windows
Grazie.
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 Grazie.
Prego, ma il disegno cosa rappresenta?
Pamela

 Pamela
Vorrebbero essere un paio di forbici che "Tagliano" il testo non
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Contents of the Windows Msdos.sys File
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Grazie!
Stavo per chiederti cosa fossero i file (drv|dbl)space.bin e che
(s)vantaggio ci fosse a non caricarli, ma ora ho capito dove cercare
questa roba ;).
Comunque, tornando al discorso del BootMenuDefault=2 che da me non
funziona... anche se non c'è scritto, forse perché venga considerato è
necessario che ci sia anche BootMenu=1, come infatti ha Walter. Poi in
caso provo.
Sempre per Walter: LoadTop=1 è il default, quindi non ci dovrebbe
essere bisogno di metterlo.
Ciao,
  Marco.


Considerando che Pamela (incollando  il testo MS...aveva già sctritto due
giorni fà
su questo thread .... la frase :
....
o.. LoadTop=Boolean
  Default: 1
  Purpose: A setting of 0 does not let Windows 95 load 
COMMAND.COM
 or
DRVSPACE.BIN/DBLSPACE.BIN at the top of 640K. If you are having
compatibility problems with software that makes assumptions about the
available memory try setting this to 0.
ho avuto modo di RILEGGERLA anch'io .....forse l'avrai letta pure tu....
ma c'è un ma ...? e un come mai...;-> :
- Come mai se io smanettando nel config.sys metto il gestore di memoria
 DEVICE=C:\windows\himem.sys
e poi device=c:\windows\emm386.exe noems
senza dos=high,umb
il load top=1 (non è piu' di default) ?
...non sarà meglio "FORZARLO..." come del resto fà More Propiertes o
Xtech-Xsetup...?
Perchè questi "programmucoli..." pensano che sia meglio mettere
l'istruizione loadtop=1 ?
PS. Buona lettura....;->
Walter

il load top=1 (non č piu' di default) ?
Oh no, quei... "cosi", himem.sys e emm386.exe, mi perseguitano da
anni, da quando smanettavo sul PC di qualcuno senza saperne niente,
non voglio piů avere a che fare con loro, mi arrendo e non procedo
oltre nel thread! :)))
Ciao,
  Marco.