Newsgroup: it.comp.os.win.win9x
Titolo: Chiusura Win 98

Salve a tutti.
Ho ancora un problema.... Ho caricato Win 98 su un hard-disk nuovo e
tutto funziona benissimo tranne la chiusura. Nel senso che che Win
arriva alla schermata "Attendere: arresto del sistema in corso" e piu'
di li non va...
Grazie , Adam

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Start/Esegui/->digita msconfig ->alla cartella Generale/Avanzate,
spunta la casellina Disabilita Arresto Rapido.
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Saluti
Żmassimo_
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Se hai Win98SE, esiste una patch della Microsoft, chiamata Win98SE Shutdown
Supplement:
http://www.microsoft.com/Windows98/downloads/contents/WURecommended/S_WUFeat
ured/Win98SE/Default.asp
Ciao,
Pamela

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Ciao Massimo e grazie ancora per l'attenzione. 
La casellina Disabilita Arresto Rapido era gia' spuntata (nel senso
che c'era la spunta dentro). Tanto per provare l'ho tolta; poi si e'
riavviato Win ed infine ho provato ad uscirne. Meravilgia: lo schermo
diventa nero e mentre mi accingo gia'  col dito sul interruttore del
case di spegnere il tutto, e in attesa del "ora e' possibile
spegnere...ecc", ecco il maledetto fare il reboot e riavviarsi di
nuovo! (li mortacci sua!!!...). 
Pero' a differenza di cio' che gli accade a Roberto, collega
di..."sventura" (hi!) cioe': "........ e via di Scandisk!!!" a me
questo non succede quando poi, dopo un certo tempo spengo comunque il
pc... Ovvero non si avvia, ne viene fatta richiesta (come in Win95) di
avviare Scandisk ad una nuova accensione del computer.
Un ultima nota (per Pamela, che ringrazio comunque dell'intervento):
il mio non e' Win98SE ma (spero di non dire una castronata) seconda
versione.
Saluti a tutti. Adamo

 versione.
Clicca destro su Risorse del Computer, vai in Proprietà e leggi la versione
del sistema.
Se è la 4.10.1998 hai Win98 prima edizione, se è invece 4.10.2222A hai
Win98SE.
Nel secondo caso prova ad installare lo Shutdown Supplement, nel primo
invece vedi se quest'articolo della MS KB può esserti d'aiuto (prima però
aggiorna i driver della tua scheda video):
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      How to Troubleshoot Windows 98 Shutdown Problems
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The information in this article applies to:
  a.. Microsoft Windows 98
  b.. Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition
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SUMMARY
This article describes how to troubleshoot problems that may occur when you
attempt to shut down and restart your computer.
MORE INFORMATION
Shutdown problems in Windows 98 can be caused by any of the following
issues:
  a.. Incompatible, damaged, or conflicting device drivers
  b.. A damaged exit sound file
  c.. Incorrectly configured or damaged hardware
To troubleshoot these issues perform the following steps in order, one at a
time, testing after each step to determine if the issue is resolved. If the
issue is not resolved, continue to the next step.
  1.. If you have installed new hardware or software on your computer,
uninstall it and check to see if your shut down problem is resolved. If it
is, contact the manufacturer of the hardware or software.
  2.. Start your computer in Safe mode and then shut down. If your computer
does not shut down properly in Safe mode, there may be a compatibility issue
between Windows 98 and your computer's BIOS. For additional information,
contact your hardware manufacturer or visit the following Microsoft Web
site:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/windows/topics/winme/hardware/bios.asp
 3.. Determine whether a program in the Startup folder conflicts with the
startup process. To do this:
    1.. Click Start, click Run, type msconfig in the Open box, and then
click OK.
    2.. Click Selective Startup, click to clear the Load Startup Group Items
check box, click Apply, click OK, and then click Yes to restart your
computer.
    3.. Test to determine if the issue is resolved by restarting your
computer. If your computer does not shut down correctly, skip to step 4. If
your computer shuts down correctly, one of your startup programs is probably
causing this issue. To determine which startup program is causing this
issue, continue to the next step.
    4.. Click Start, click Run, type msconfig in the Open box, and then
click OK.
    5.. On the Startup tab, click to select a check box for a startup
program in the Named column, click OK, and then click Yes to restart your
computer. Test to determine if the startup program that you disabled caused
the issue and, if not, repeat steps D through E, but click to clear a
different startup program check box in step E. When your computer does not
start correctly, you have determined that the last startup program that you
enabled is the cause of the issue.
    NOTE: If the problem is not resolved after you disable startup programs,
re-enable the startup programs by repeating steps A through B, and then
click to select the Load Startup Group Items check box.
  4.. Determine if the shutdown problem is caused by a command or a driver
that loads automatically from the Win.ini, System.ini, Autoexec.bat, or
Config.sys file. To do this:
    1.. Click Start, click Run, type msconfig in the Open box, and then
click OK.
    2.. Click Selective Startup, and then click to clear the following check
boxes:
      a.. Process Win.ini file
      b.. Process System.ini file
      c.. Process Autoexec.bat file
      d.. Process Config.sys file
    NOTE: If any of these items are unavailable, that particular file does
not contain any items to load.
    3.. Click OK, and then click Yes to restart your computer. Test to
determine if the issue is resolved by restarting your computer. If your
computer does not shut down correctly, repeat steps A through C, but in step
C, click to select the check boxes, and then continue to step 5.
  5.. Disable fast shutdown. To disable fast shutdown, follow these steps:
    1.. Click Start, point to Programs, point to Accessories, point to
System Tools, and then click System Information.
    2.. On the Tools menu, click System Configuration Utility.
    3.. On the General tab, click Advanced.
    4.. Click to select the Disable Fast Shutdown check box, click OK, and
then click OK.
    5.. Click Yes when you are prompted to restart your computer.
  For additional information about disabling fast shutdown, click the
article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
    Q187607 How to Disable Fast Shutdown in Windows 98
  Test to determine if the issue is resolved by restarting your computer. If
your computer does not shut down correctly, continue to step 6.
  6.. Determine if the shutdown problem is being caused by a damaged exit
sound file. To do this:
    1.. Click Start, point to Settings, click Control Panel, and then
double-click Sounds.
    2.. Note the name and location of the Exit Windows sound, click Exit
Windows in the Events box, and then click None in the Name box.
    3.. Click OK, and then restart your computer.
    Test to determine if the issue is resolved by restarting your computer.
If your computer does not shut down correctly, repeat steps A through C, but
restore your original Exit Windows sound in step B, and then continue to
step 7. If the issue is resolved, your Exit Windows sound file is damaged
and you must replace it.
  7.. Disable some device drivers. Some of the most common device drivers
that may cause problems are device drivers for sound cards, video adapters,
and network adapters. Disable any devices in the following categories:
    a.. Display adapters
    b.. Floppy disk controllers
    c.. Hard disk controllers
    d.. Keyboard
    e.. Mouse
    f.. Network adapters
    g.. PCMCIA socket
    h.. Ports
    i.. SCSI controllers
    j.. Sound, video, and game controllers
  To disable device drivers:
    1.. Right-click My Computer on the desktop, click Properties, and then
click the Device Manager tab.
    2.. Double-click a device type, for example, Sound, Video, or Game
Controllers.
    3.. Click one of the listed devices, and then click Properties.
    4.. Click to select the Disable In This Hardware Profile check box.
    IMPORTANT: Record all of the devices that you disable so that you can
enable them again later.
    5.. Click OK, click OK, and then restart your computer.
    Test to determine if the issue is resolved by restarting your computer.
If your computer does not shut down correctly, repeat steps A through E, but
disable a different hardware device in step D. Also, to test your video
adapter, click Start, click Run, type msconfig, click OK, click Advanced,
click to select the VGA 640x480x16 check box, and then click OK. If you
disable your sound card, video adapter, and network adapter, but the issue
is still not resolved, re-enable these devices by following steps A through
E, but in step D, click to clear the Disable In This Hardware Profile check
box, and then continue to step 8.
    NOTE: If you are unable to change the video adapter by using these
steps, change your video adapter driver to "Standard VGA." To do this:
      1.. Click Start, point to Settings, click Control Panel, and then
double-click Display.
      2.. Click Advanced on the Settings tab, and then click Change on the
Adapter tab.
      3.. Click Next, click Display a list of all the drivers in a specific
location, so you can select the driver you want, and then click Next.
      4.. Click Show All Hardware, click Standard Display Types in the
Manufacturer box, click Standard Display Adapter (VGA) in the Models box,
and then click Next.
      5.. Click Yes, click Next, and then click Finish.
      6.. Click Close, click Close, and then click Yes when you are prompted
to restart your computer.
      If the issue is resolved when you change your video adapter to the
Standard VGA driver, contact your video adapter manufacturer to inquire
about the availability of an updated Windows 98 video adapter driver.
      For additional information about how to troubleshoot display problems,
click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft
Knowledge Base:
        Q127139 Troubleshooting Video Problems in Windows
  8.. Determine if Advanced Power Management (APM) is causing the shutdown
problem by disabling APM. (Note that not all computers have APM features.)
To do this:
    1.. Click Start, point to Settings, click Control Panel, double-click
System, and then click the Device Manager tab.
    2.. Double-click System Devices to expand it.
    3.. Double-click Advanced Power Management in the device list, and then
click to select the Force APM 1.0 Mode and the Disable Power Status Polling
check boxes on the Settings tab. If the settings are already enabled,
disable them by clearing the check boxes.
    4.. Click OK until you return to Control Panel, and then restart your
computer.
    Test to determine if the issue is resolved by restarting your computer.
If your computer does not shut down correctly, repeat steps A through D, but
click to clear the Force APM 1.0 Mode and the Disable Power Status Polling
check boxes, and then continue to step 9.
  9.. Determine if shutdown problems are being caused by virtual device
driver (.vxd) files. To do this:
    1.. Restart your computer, and while your computer restarts, press and
hold CTRL until the Windows 98 Startup menu appears.
    2.. Choose Step By Step Confirmation, and then press ENTER.
    3.. Press Y when you receive each of the following prompts, and press N
for all other prompts:
      a.. Load Doublespace driver
      b.. Process the system registry
      c.. DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
      d.. DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS
      e.. Load the Windows graphical user interface
      f.. Load all Windows drivers
    4.. After all Windows drivers are loaded, you are prompted to load all
static .vxd files, one at a time. Note each static .vxd file name, and
respond with "No" to avoid loading each file. The following list is a
partial list of Microsoft static .vxd files:
            Static .vxd file Provides support for
            Vnetsup.vxd Microsoft Networking
            Ndis.vxd Microsoft Networking
            Ndis2sup.vxd Microsoft Networking
            Javasup.vxd Microsoft Java
            Vrtwd.386 Clock
            Vfixd.vxd Video Phone helper
            Vnetbios.vxd Microsoft Networking
            Vserver.vxd Microsoft Networking
            Vredir.vxd Microsoft Networking
            Dfs.vxd Microsoft Networking
            Ndiswan.vxd Microsoft Networking
            Msmouse.vxd Microsoft Mouse
    Test to determine if the issue is resolved by restarting your computer.
If your computer shuts down correctly, define the problem further by
repeating steps A through D, but respond with "Yes" to only one of the files
in the list above, and then restart your computer. Test each file by
restarting your computer and responding "Yes" to a different file each time.
If your computer does not shut down properly, the issue is related to last
static .vxd file you selected.
    Check the properties of the incompatible static .vxd file to determine
the program with which it is associated. Uninstall and then reinstall the
program to replace the .vxd file with a new copy of the file.
    For additional information about the System Configuration Utility tool,
click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft
Knowledge Base:
      Q181966 System Configuration Utility Advanced Troubleshooting Settings
  10.. Install Windows 98 in a new folder. This may be the quickest method
to determine if the problem is caused by a hardware issue. If you install
Windows in a new folder and you still experience problems shutting down,
check with your hardware manufacturer for an updated BIOS or other
workaround.
  For additional information about installing Windows 98 in a new folder,
click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft
Knowledge Base:
    Q193902 How to Install Windows 98 Into a New Folder
  11.. If you are running Windows 98 Second Edition and you are still
experiencing problems shutting down your computer, view the following
article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
    Q238096 Problems Shutting Down Windows 98 Second Edition
If this article does not describe your shutdown-related issue, please see
the following Microsoft Web site to view more articles about shutting down
Windows 98:
 
http://support.microsoft.com/support/search/canned.asp?R=d&H=Win
dows+98+Shutdown+Articles&LL=win98x+or+winmil&Sz=w98shutdown

 >> di li non va...
Collegati qui: 
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q239/8/87.asp
e scarica il supplemento per lo spegnimento del computer...
N.B.: Occhio all'inglese!
Rashef

E' quella di cui dicevo, ma purtroppo non risolve alcunché!...altro che
supplement!
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 e piu' di li non va...
 
Oggi ho visto un articolo che mi è sembrato abbastanza completo su 
www.wintricks.it
 , prova a dargli un'occhiata... 
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Ciao :-)
Cadfael
Se prendi un cane che muore di fame e lo nutri, non ti morderà.
E' questa la differenza principale tra un cane e un uomo.
(Mark Twain)

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Tu  dici che caricare questa versione .....in Inglese
fa' differenza...?
     4.10.2223     Msconfig.exe
     4.10.2223     Pci.vxd
     4.10.2223    Apmbatt.sys
     4.10.2222    Configmg.vxd
Nel caso ...dacci  (x favore)....il nome della patch in'Italiano predisposta
dalla MS...
Grazie...:-)
Walter

(Mark Twain)
Grazie per la segnalazione Cadfael. Sito veramente interessante e dove
il problema viene ampiamente trattato (mamma mia quante possono essere
le cause che impediscono Win.9x di non chiudersi!!!....). 
Instintivamente mi ha colpito l'articolo riguardante gli IRQ (ho
sempre sentito parlare che alcune schede, in particolare video,
causano incompatibilita') percio' ho deciso di effettuare la seconda
prova (era quella piu' a...portata di mano per un "novice"...) che
riporto qui sotto "paro paro...":
"Per capire se il problema è dovuto a un conflitto di IRQ a causa
della condivisione degli interrupt si può agire in questo modo: aprire
il Pannello di Controllo\Sistema\Gestione Periferiche, aprire la voce
Periferiche di sistema, cliccare due volte su Bus PCI e aprire la
scheda Parametri IRQ, disabilitando la voce Usa parametri IRQ e
riavviando il PC. Se il problema viene risolto bisogna cambiare
l'assegnazione degli IRQ da BIOS per non creare conflitti."
Il risultato e' stato positivo. Nel senso che finalmente Win si
chiudeva regolarmente. Contropartita: all'accensione il pc mi
comunicava che c'era qulche cosa che non andava nella scheda video e
di verificare i divers. I drivers sono buoni...
A questo punto (ancora intuito) vado a fare un giro nel bios e
scorrendo le varie impostazioni del BIOS FEATURES SETUP ce' una che
attira la mia attenzione: "Assign IRQ for VGA"  e' "Disabled"...
L'abilito, salvo, e faccio ripartire il PC.
Tutto ok! Non ho piu' comunicazioni di errori da parte del pc ed
inoltre si chiude correttamente. 
Forse una persona esperta si sarebbe accorto sicuramente prima. Io
purtroppo sono un novello in questo settore! Quindi chiedo scusa a
tutti quelli che così gentilmente si sono prestati di darmi una mano.
Meno male che c'e' il News Group!... Grazie a tutti!
Un cordiale saluto a tutto l'NG. Adam
 
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 purtroppo sono un novello in questo settore!
Tu non sei obbligato a sapere queste cose, ma chi ti ha venduto il PC sě...
Ciao,
Pamela

 purtroppo sono un novello in questo settore!
Forse... Sono contento che tu abbia risolto il problema e non posso che 
concordare con Pamela: se tu sei un "novizio" non lo dovrebbe essere 
chi ti vende un PC.
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Ciao :-)
Cadfael
Quando Dio creņ l'uomo, era gią stanco.Ciņ spiega molto.
(Mark Twain)