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Titolo: Floppy di avvio per leggere Penna USB Storage

Esiste un floppy di avvio per leggere Penna USB Storage  in modo cda copiare il contenuto della penna sull'HD senza passare da alcuno S.O.?
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 Esiste un floppy di avvio per leggere Penna USB Storage  in modo cda copiare
il contenuto della penna sull'HD senza passare da alcuno S.O.?
Cioe' tu vorresti effettuare un boot da floppy, che veda sia la penna che
il disco in modo da poter copiare files dalla penna al disco?
E perche' non fai un boot da penna USB allora che fai prima?
In ogni caso l'unita' di boot deve poter vedere il filesystem del disco, e
qui, in un gruppo di win9x, si sottintende che il disco sia FAT, ma per
altri sistemi e' facile trovare partizioni NTFS o linux
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altri sistemi e' facile trovare partizioni NTFS o linux
Mettendo un floppy di avvio Win98 vedrei FAT32 e da li formattare il disco fisso. Ma credo che non hai soluzioni a riguardo...o no?
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Ok, ora il quadro e' piu' chiaro.
Non conosco sistemi avviabili via floppy con supporto alla porta USB, ma 
si puo' fare un disco di boot su CD e avviare da CD (se il tuo computer 
ha le porte USB dovrebbe consentire il boot da CD).
In tal caso puoi farti un CD con una live linux qualunque, anche scarna, 
purche' abbia il supporto alla USB e a quel punto puoi fare boot da CD e 
vedere sia la USB che il disco.


Il CD non funziona!! :(
Alternative, a parte il cassonetto? :(
Ciao!
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 Ciao!
Allora, vediamo di esaminare il tuo problema da un altro punto di vista e
trovare soluzioni alternative.
Se ho ben capito: hai un computer portatile, mezzo rotto, che non parte
piu', ma che c'e' roba sul disco fisso che vorresti recuperare.
Giusto fin qui?
Il CD non funziona.
Il floppy funziona?
Hai provato a fare un boot da floppy e vedere se accedi al disco?
Se il boot da floppy funziona e il disco lo vedi, siamo gia' a buon punto.
E a quel punto, anche senza voler usare una chiavetta USB magari si riesce
a trovare il modo di estrarre i dati.
Se invece non funziona neanche il floppy, non resta che smontare tutto,
estrarre il disco e attaccare il disco ad un altro computer, oppure
inserirlo in quei contenitori di dischi da 2 pollici per trasformarli in
unita' esterne.
Intanto questi dati che grandezza hanno?
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Intanto questi dati che grandezza hanno?
Circa 381mb (WinME) completo.
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 Circa 381mb (WinME) completo.
Ok, e nell'ipotesi di poterli estrarre, dove intendi metterli?
Hai un altro computer?
In tal caso si puo' pensare di collegare i due computer via cavo di rete 
o alla peggio via cavo seriale o parallelo, e in questo caso e' 
possibile fare un boot da floppy sul portatile mezzo rotto e far partire 
sempre da floppy una applicazione per trasferimento files via rete o via 
seriale o via parallela tra i due computer.

the women were to be executed, whatever the result to the
brothel system. He wrote in reply as though Sir John Smale had said
many things that had not been put in the same light, demanded to know
what law could be put into operation to improve conditions, and wished
to know if Sir John Smale accepted Dr. Eitel's views on "domestic
servitude," and later he wrote pronouncing the views expressed in the
insolent attack of Mr. O'Malley upon Sir John Smale's anti-slavery
pronouncements as "well considered and convincing." He also referred
to the "humane intentions" of Mr. Labouchere in the passing of the
Contagious Diseases Ordinance of Sir John Bowring's time, which "were
intended to ameliorate the condition of the women." But it does not so
much concern us what the officials in London did and said, excepting
at the one point, namely, that they did not at this time back the
noble efforts of the Governor and of Sir John Smale to put down
slavery, and so rendered it practically impossible for them to
accomplish what they wished to do. The replies from Sir John Smale
are, however, of much value to us, as throwing light upon social
conditions at Hong Kong. On August 26, 1880, Sir John Smale replied in
a letter meant for the Secretary of State at London, but sent in due
form to the Colonial Secretary at Hong Kong for forwarding:
    "My observations in Court arose out of cases of kidnaping;
    and, according to the practices of judges in England, in their
    addresses to the Grand Juries, and on sentencing prisoners, I did
    as I thought it my duty to do. I traced the cause of the kidnaping
    to the demand for domestic bond servants, as Dr. Eitel calls them,
    and for brothels ... I said on the 7th of October I expressly
    indicate these two, and these two only, as the specific class

the childless concubines liable to be sold or sent adrift
    at any moment, the law of inheritance neglecting daughters in
    favour of sons," and "the universal practice of buying and selling
    females combined with the system of domestic servitude," makes
    the suppression of prostitution difficult. "This intermixture of
    female slavery with prostitution has been noticed in Hong Kong at
    the very time when the Legislature first attempted to deal with
    Chinese prostitution."
We now understand the nature of this wretched form of slavery as
carried on at Hong Kong. There did not exist a class of women brought
to the pitiable plight of prostitution by the wiles of the seducer, or
through the mishap of a lapse from virtue, after which all doors
to reform are practically closed against such, as in Western
civilization, nor were there those known to have fallen through innate
perversity; but such as existed among the Chinese were literal
slaves, in the full sense of that word. From the standpoint of these
officials, for the most part, prostitution was necessary. This was
plainly declared in many official documents. The fact that they
licensed brothels proves also that prostitution was considered
necessary. And since necessary, if the means failed whereby brothels
in the Occident are maintained, then they mus

of their owners,
    chiefly women whom the girl calls 'mother,' and whom they regard
    as such.... The mistress brings her girls down to the Straits, and
    either sells them, or takes them from place to place, lodging them
    in licensed brothels where she resides, nominally a servant, but
    receiving the earnings of her girls, and paying a commission to
    the licensed keeper. In case of sale, the so-called 'mother'
    receives the price paid for her 'daughter,' and the 'daughter'
    signs a promissory note for the amount, with heavy interest; the
    former owner returns to China, and the victim is bound to serve
    the Straits mistress; at the same time, the girl is comparatively
    (!) fortunate in that, coming here under the protection we can
    give through the Contagious Diseases Ordinances, she has some
    chance of becoming a free woman."
Now listen, reader, to the wonderful chances of becoming a free woman
under the British flag, this "Protector" holds out to the slave girls
who are placed in his officially managed brothels:
    "The girls with their promissory notes are passed

friendliness to the
foreigners while as yet the landsman viewed the new-comers with
suspicion. Their women were grossly corrupted by contact with the
foreign voyagers and sailors.
Hong Kong was a long way off at the beginning of the nineteenth
century, when Great Britain began to send Government-manufactured
opium from India to China, and when China prohibited the trade the
drug was smuggled in. When Chinese officials at last rose up to check
this invasion by foreign trade, wars followed in which China was
worsted, and the island of Hong Kong, together with the Kowloon
peninsula, became a British possession as war indemnity. Hong Kong
is a "mere dot in the ocean less than twenty-seven miles in
circumference," and when Great Britain took possession its inhabitants
were limited to "a few fishermen and cottagers."
The Tankas helped the British in many ways in waging these wars, and
when peace was established went to live with them on the island. This
action on the part of these "river people" is significant as showing
as much or more attachment to the foreigner than to the other classes
of Chinese. There seems always to be less conscience in wronging
an alien people than in injuring a people to whom one is closely
attached, and this sense of estrangement from other Chinese may
account to some extent for the facility with which this aboriginal
people engaged, a little later, in the trade in women and girls
brought from the mainland to meet the demands of profligate
foreigners.
Sir Charles Elliott, Governor of Hong Kong, wishing to attract Chinese
immigration to the isla

General's office has led to grave abuses.
    It has been a fruitful source of extortion, but what is far worse,
    a department of the State, as one of the local papers now points
    out, which is supposed to be constituted for the protection of the
    Chinese, has been employing a dangerously loose system, whereby
    the sanctity of native households may be seriously compromised.
    I had no idea that the Secret Service Fund was used for this
    loathsome purpose until my attention was drawn to an inquest on
    the bodies of two Chinese women who were killed by falling from
    a house in which one of the informers employed by the Registrar
    General was pursuing his avocations.... I am taking steps to
    institute a searching inquiry into the whole subject. The European
    community are ashamed at the revelations that have been made at
    the inquest, and amongst the Chinese the practice that has been
    brought to light is, viewed with abhorrence."
This was the incident which led to the appointment of the Commission
of Inquiry into the working of the Contagious Diseases Ordinance, the
report of which Commission we have already had occasion to quote from
more than once.
Later, Governor Hennessy wrote to the Colonial Office:
    "Whilst the Attorney General is of opinion that, strictly
    speaking, there is a _prima facie_ case of manslaughter made out
    against Inspector Lee, and that possibly a conviction might be
    obtained, he advises against a prosecution. I do not concur with
    the Attorney General in the reasons he gives for not instituting a
    prosecution in this case."
During the year previous, 1876, Ordinance No. 2 had bee

compromised.
    I had no idea that the Secret Service Fund was used for this
    loathsome purpose until my attention was drawn to an inquest on
    the bodies of two Chinese women who were killed by falling from
    a house in which one of the informers employed by the Registrar
    General was pursuing his avocations.... I am taking steps to
    institute a searching inquiry into the whole subject. The European
    community are ashamed at the revelations that have been made at
    the inquest, and amongst the Chinese the practice that has been
    brought to light is, viewed with abhorrence."
This was the incident which led to the appointment of the Commission
of Inquiry into the working of the Contagious Diseases Ordinance, the
report of which Commission we have already had occasion to quote from
more than once.
Later, Governor Hennessy wrote to the Colonial Office:
    "Whilst the Attorney General is of opinion that, strictly
    speaking, there is a _prima facie_ case of manslaughter made out
    against Inspector Lee, and that possibly a conviction might be
    obtained, he advises against a prosecution. I do not concur with
    the Attorney General in the reasons he gives for not instituting a
    prosecution in this case."
During the year previous, 1876, Ordinance No. 2 had been passed,
depriving the Registrar General of the much-abused judicial powers
he had exercised since 1867, and transferring them to the police
magistrates.
Speaking of the incident of Tai Yau having sold her boy to pay her
fine, Governor Hennessy wrote the Colonial Office, under date of
December 6th, 1877:
    "I am now informed that the Commi

--Miss Culbertson, the pioneer, now sainted, Miss Lake,
Miss Cameron and Miss Davis, who have fought their brave battles for
many years, to deliver the captives from the hand of the spoilers,
often at the risk of life, unaided for the most part, unappreciated
and unsympathized with, by a guiltily ignorant Christian public, and
too often persecuted by corrupt officials. Yet they have never stood
alone, but have always had the presence of their Master, and the
sympathetic co-operation of a few ardent supporters,--Christian women,
lawyers, magistrates, and other officials.
One of the "Watch-dogs" struck Miss Lake on one occasion. On another,
a "Watch-dog" went boldly up to two policemen to whom a fugitive slave
had appealed for help, seized his prey, and without resistance from
the policemen, carried her bodily back to slavery along the public
street, in view of many spectators. At another time several of them
rushed in upon a scene of rescue, overcame the police officer, and
hurled him down stairs, dealt in the same manner with some men in
the rescue party, and then turned upon the missionary and would have
subjected her to the same treatment. She said firmly: "Do not lay a
hand upon me! I will go out by myself," and overawed, they allowed
her to walk out untouched through their midst into fresh air and to
safety. It is hardly necessary to add that the missionary did not, on
this occasion, get the poor slave.
We have already said, but it bears repeating, that white men as well
as Chinese, resort to these slaves. One rescued girl told of another
captive, bound by night to her bed and to her unwilling task. Think of
the education of the youths of San Francisco in such schools of vice
as this,--what a menace they must necessarily become to the women of
their own family and acquaintance! A

points
    out, which is supposed to be constituted for the protection of the
    Chinese, has been employing a dangerously loose system, whereby
    the sanctity of native households may be seriously compromised.
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for the year 1892 on the Chinese Protectorate in
    the Straits Settlements which is the department charged with the
    control of immigration, was published on the 5th of May, 1893, and
    states that of the 122,029 Chinese deck passengers who arrived in
    Singapore from China during the year, 111,164 were males, 6,867
    women and 3,998 children. The circumstances under which the men
    and the women are brought to Singapore are in many respects the
    same, but inasmuch as a large number of the women and some of
    the children are imported for immoral purposes, this part of the
    subject will be dealt with separately. Turning then to the above
    mentioned Report, we find as regards male immigration, that out of
    the 111,164 who arrived in Singapore 23,647 proceeded direct to
    Penang, and 1,798 to Malacca, Bangkok and Mauritius, leaving
    85,719 remaining in Singapore, of whom 76,601 are classed as
    'paid passengers,' and 9,118 as "unpaid passengers received into
    depots." With the former class the Chinese Protectorate has
    nothing more to do, unless they come to the Protector to sign a
    Government labour contract with planters or other employers
    of labor, but with the 'unpaid passengers' the case is very
    different. These men are brought to the Straits to the number of
    about 15,000 a year, under what is spoken of in the Report as
    "the much objurgated depot and broker system," and the facts as
    presented below will speak for themselves as to whether the
    objurgations are warranted or not. The brokers are all China men,
    and are admitted to be men of the worst character. They have their
    assistants or partners in the chief ports of China, who scout
    the country round in search of men and are known to be not very
    particular as to the means they employ in obtaining them. Nothing
    is required of the recruit except a willingness to hand himself
    over with his scanty outfit to the tender m