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Titolo: gli USA e il terrorismo 40 anni fa...

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http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/dailynews/jointchiefs_010501.html
Book: U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke
War With Cuba
- In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted
plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S.
cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.
Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the
possible assassination of Cuban migrs, sinking boats of Cuban refugees
on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even
orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.
 The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the
international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba's then new
leader, communist Fidel Castro.
 America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military
casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and
blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a
helpful wave of national indignation."
 Details of the plans are described in Body of Secrets (Doubleday), a
new book by investigative reporter James Bamford about the history of
America's largest spy agency, the National Security Agency. However, the
plans were not connected to the agency, he notes.
 The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert
McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the
civilian leadership and have gone undisclosed for nearly 40 years.
 "These were Joint Chiefs of Staff documents. The reason these were held
secret for so long is the Joint Chiefs never wanted to give these up
because they were so embarrassing," Bamford told ABCNEWS.com.
 "The whole point of a democracy is to have leaders responding to the
public will, and here this is the complete reverse, the military trying
to trick the American people into a war that they want but that nobody
else wants."
The documents show "the Joint Chiefs of Staff drew up and approved plans
for what may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S.
government," writes Bamford.
 The Joint Chiefs even proposed using the potential death of astronaut
John Glenn during the first attempt to put an American into orbit as a
false pretext for war with Cuba, the documents show.
 Should the rocket explode and kill Glenn, they wrote, "the objective is
to provide irrevocable proof ? that the fault lies with the Communists
et all Cuba [sic]."
 The plans were motivated by an intense desire among senior military
leaders to depose Castro, who seized power in 1959 to become the first
communist leader in the Western Hemisphere - only 90 miles from U.S.
shores.
 The earlier CIA-backed Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba by Cuban exiles had
been a disastrous failure, in which the military was not allowed to
provide firepower.The military leaders now wanted a shot at it.
 "The whole thing was so bizarre," says Bamford, noting public and
international support would be needed for an invasion, but apparently
neither the American public, nor the Cuban public, wanted to see U.S.
troops deployed to drive out Castro.
 Reflecting this, the U.S. plan called for establishing prolonged
military - not democratic - control over the island nation after the
invasion.
 "That's what we're supposed to be freeing them from," Bamford says.
"The only way we would have succeeded is by doing exactly what the
Russians were doing all over the world, by imposing a government by
tyranny, basically what we were accusing Castro himself of doing."
The Joint Chiefs at the time were headed by Eisenhower appointee Army
Gen. Lyman L. Lemnitzer, who, with the signed plans in hand made a pitch
to McNamara on March 13, 1962, recommending Operation Northwoods be run
by the military.
 Whether the Joint Chiefs' plans were rejected by McNamara in the
meeting is not clear. But three days later, President Kennedy told
Lemnitzer directly there was virtually no possibility of ever using
overt force to
take Cuba, Bamford reports. Within months, Lemnitzer would be denied
another term as chairman and transferred to another job.
 The secret plans came at a time when there was distrust in the military
leadership about their civilian leadership, with leaders in the Kennedy
administration viewed as too liberal, insufficiently experienced and
soft on communism. At the same time, however, there real were concerns
in American society about their military overstepping its bounds.
 There were reports U.S. military leaders had encouraged their
subordinates to vote conservative during the election.
 And at least two popular books were published focusing on a right-wing
military leadership pushing the limits against government policy of the
day. The Senate Foreign Relations Committee published its own report on
right-wing extremism in the military, warning a "considerable danger" in
the "education and propaganda activities of military personnel" had been
uncovered. The committee even called for an examination of any ties
between Lemnitzer and right-wing groups. But Congress didn't get wind of
Northwoods, says Bamford.
 "Although no one in Congress could have known at the time," he writes,
"Lemnitzer and the Joint Chiefs had quietly slipped over the edge."
 Even after Lemnitzer was gone, he writes, the Joint Chiefs continued to
plan "pretext" operations at least through 1963.
 One idea was to create a war between Cuba and another Latin American
country so that the United States could intervene. Another was to pay
someone in the Castro government to attack U.S. forces at the Guantanamo
naval base - an act, which Bamford notes, would have amounted to
treason.
And another was to fly low level U-2 flights over Cuba, with the
intention
of having one shot down as a pretext for a war.
 "There really was a worry at the time about the military going off
crazy and they did, but they never succeeded, but it wasn't for lack of
trying," he says
Ironically, the documents came to light, says Bamford, in part because
of the 1992 Oliver Stone film JFK, which examined the possibility of a
conspiracy behind the assassination of President Kennedy.
 As public interest in the assassination swelled after JFK's release,
Congress passed a law designed to increase the public's access to
government records related to the assassination.
 The author says a friend on the board tipped him off to the documents.
 Afraid of a congressional investigation, Lemnitzer had ordered all
Joint Chiefs documents related to the Bay of Pigs destroyed, says
Bamford. But somehow, these remained.
 "The scary thing is none of this stuff comes out until 40 years after,"
says Bamford.
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 civilian leadership and have gone undisclosed for nearly 40 years.
Nomi, cognomi, date precise?
Vedi Sergio, è proprio questa la tattica della calunnia programmatica.
Dire e non dire, alludere, spiegare le incogruenze con
"apparentemente"...
I tipi come Messori non sono solo cattolici, si nascondono dappertutto.
E tu sai che lo dico da filocubano, non certo da filoamericano...
ciao
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Piero F.

 "apparentemente"...
Si parla di Join Chiefs e si dice che : 
" The Joint Chiefs at the time were headed by Eisenhower appointee Army
Gen. Lyman L. Lemnitzer, who, with the signed plans in hand made a pitch
to McNamara on March 13, 1962, recommending Operation Northwoods be run
by the military.
"
Non basta quel nome? Si deve vedere il libro da cui questo articolo e'
estratto e ripubblicato da abc.
Perche' dovrebbe essere una calunnia? Sulla base di che?
ciao
Sergio
P.s.: O ho dimenticato di dire che pure quelli di abcnews sono
antiamericani...?
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 Ovviamente direte che la mia e' paranoia antiamericana...
ma no sergio, chi potrebbe mai pensarlo.....ti vogliamo tutti bene!! :-))
piuttosto, cos'č quel puntino rosso che hai in mezzo alla fronte? :-)))))
Frakkia
FIDDer #31

 Perche' dovrebbe essere una calunnia? Sulla base di che?
Sulla base che è troppo bello per essere vero:-))))
ciao
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Piero F.

 piuttosto, cos'è quel puntino rosso che hai in mezzo alla fronte? :-)))))
significa certamente che è indù :)
il resto sarebbe fuori luogo!!
Fileri Fabio

 significa certamente che è indù :)
no, è come una lucina.... :-)))
Frakkia
FIDDer #31

 hai scritto l'altro giorno sui "segreti" che escono dal Kremlino?
se sono stati declassificati i documenti bisogna vedere come reperirli.
IN genere vengono messi a disposizione su un sito americano di cui posso
trovarti il link.
In ogni caso, abc e' uno dei tre maggiori network americani, secondo te
posta un documento simile per autolesionismo visto che alcuni ambienti
(militari e non) USA non ci fanno una bella figura?
ciao
Sergio
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 ha
scritto nel messaggio news:2T9D9.5977$3l.1...@twister1.libero.it...
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allora o è come le dita di ET che sbrilluccicano di energia propria
insomma una cosa mistica oppure è decisamente una cosa fuori luogo
bhè potrebbe anche essere una spia di allarme, magari sta finendo l'olio :)
Fileri Fabio

 no, è come una lucina.... :-)))
Lo Spirito Santo! Ah no, era una fiammella... ;-)
Ciao
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Comandante  sul campo FAC ed aspetti strategico-tattici di ICSM
Meglio la morte, per chiunque di noi, che una vita di vergogna - Beowulf