Newsgroup: it.comp.giochi.sportivi
Titolo: Allenamento Giovani [CM]

Salve Ragazzi,
salve Alan, :-)
volevo chiedervi una cosa....
in CM 99/00  qual'e' il modo migliore per allenare i giovani?
Per esempio ho notato che molti giovani forti, hanno bassi valori in
intuito, cross, tiri da fuori e
posizione.....
Se ad esempio faccio degli allenamenti mirati su tiro o tattica dovrei
vedere questi valori aumentare?
Se si fino a che eta' questi valori si incrementano?
O piu' in generale, quali valori aumentano e diminuiscono nei giocatori in
generale?
Grazie a tutti
Ciao
Alberto.

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Nessuno in grado di aiutarmi e darmi qualche delucidazione?
Thx.
Alberto... Bitello.

 Thx.
Se la metti così BECCATI 'sto popò di roba e statti zitto  un paio di giorni
:-P:
I did actually sit down and work this out (effects of various training
regimes) once and draw lots of nice doodles doing it... but anyway...
( * These are 'hidden stats' )
Fitness - Acceration, Agility, Jumping, Natural Fitness*, Pace, Reflexes,
Stamina and Strength.
Tactics - Decisions*, Marking, Off the Ball, Teamwork and Positioning.
Shooting - Finishing (ie, shooting), Long shots and Penalties taking.
Skills - Corners, Crossing, Dribbling, Free Kicks, Heading, Passing,
Tackling, Technique (and I assume Creativity).
As you mentioned, Tactics does improve your off the ball movement which for
things like corners will improve your chances of getting a player into space
for a chance (subject to a good cross). I think overall, Tactics is the
single most important type of training and getting a coach with good
tactical ability is crucial since all players need it. For a start it
improves both defensive and attacking attributes. For defensive midfielders
the marking and positioning is crucial in attempting to leaking goals but
also gives them the ability at corners to maybe get a goal or two.
For defenders the training you shouldn't skip is Skills and Tactics. For
Defensive Midfielders the training you shouldn't skip is Fitness and
Tactics. Your players will be expected to follow the opposition around if
man marking and the Fitness enables a player to be more effective at this by
being able to keep close. For Midfielder the training you shouldn't skip is
Skills and Tactics. Your players will be more effective at getting forward
and doing things. For Strikers the training you shouldn't skip is Shooting
and Tactics. The tactics ensures he is in position to shoot...
Could I offer one piece of advice - take note of the starting skills of
anyone you buy. You can only train each player to a certain number and once
reached you'll be better switching training... The best example is with your
strikers... I have a striker with a shooting rating of 20 - this is not
going to go up any more so I get him to train with my midfielders. After a
while his rating in shooting will drop to 19 in which case I put him back in
shooting class for a short time. If you switch the player back immediately
then the time it takes to reach the maximum again is shorter than the time
the player spent training other things - thus my striker's all round
abilities are improving with very little negative effect on his ability to
score. Admiringly it does take a little effort to monitor 20-30 players but
it surely improves the team...
Additional notes from Roninho
The above is a rare excellent posting found from the mailing list. Good job,
Mr Knee!
Roninho's personal current favourite training regime is as follows:
Goalkeepers (Download)
Fitness Medium
Tactics Medium *
Skill Medium *
Goal Intensive
 Defender (Download)
Fitness Medium *
Tactics Intensive
Shoot Medium
Skill Medium *
 Def Midfielder (Download)
Fitness Medium *
Tactics Intensive
Shoot Medium
Skill Medium *
Att Midfielder (Download)
Fitness Medium *
Tactics Medium
Shoot Medium *
Skill Intensive
 Forwards (Download)
Fitness Medium
Tactics Medium *
Shoot Intensive
Skill Medium *
 Dead wood (Download)
Fitness Light
Tactics Medium
Shoot Light
Skill Light
I use the above training regimes to maintain the players during the hectic
season. However, if the team is not doing well, I increase the 'torture'
level, by upgrading one of those marked '*" to Intensive. And if that
doesn't do the trick, I add another Intensive training, which means I'll
have 3 intensives. That can backfire as the players might get injured during
training, so be warned!
The training regime you choose can be flexible. ie. You might want to
'torture' a player that have not been performing, so you put him alone in a
rough training programme. Or maybe your attack has been misfiring, so you
might give them tougher training.
I have created a 'Dead wood' training programme for those who I know will
never see first team action. They are trained minimally so that they can
still do well enough during reserve matches, but without taking too much of
the coaches' valuable time.
Note that specialized training programmes are most suitable if you wish to
improve a player's particular attribute. ie. if you want to improve a young
striker's shooting, you should put him under a shooting training (intensive
on shooting, light on everything else). This forces the player to focus only
on improving his shooting only.
Usually I leave the training as it is for as long as possible, with some
slight tweaking here and there after a month or so. Also note that I found
that players tend to get injured if you change their training programme
(don't know why, but thats what I noticed!). During pre-season, I decide
which players need improvement any specific areas, and create training new
programmes (usually with more than one intensives). Dead woods are not
trained during pre-season.
Another important point to note: I've found that training in the lower
leagues are mostly useless as the players get knackered from training too
easily and the above training regimes can't work. Thus, I dump them all into
General training (that is, all training are set to Medium). But for your
young potential players who have not yet played first team football, put
them to specialized training (ie. one intensive and three lights).
Fonte? Ovvio, il mio conoscente e amico Ronin :-):
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Grazie Alan!!!!!
heehhehe
questo mi occupera' per un poco :-))
Ciao!
Bitello.

Alberto... Bitello.
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