Newsgroup: it.comp.software.mailreader
Titolo: [The Bat] v. 2: Cosa bolle in pentola: pipistrello con lenticchie...


Subject: Happy New Year!
Hello All,
  On behalf of RITLABS I would like to thank you all for supporting
  The Bat! and wish you Happy New Year!
  It's been quite a time I wrote to this list, I am sorry about
  that...
  So, I guess, it is time to come up with some kind of announcement.
  Here we go :-)
 
What's cooking:
  Version 2. It still has some way to go to be released as a Public
  Beta. Before the final release will come out, we still will be
making some fixes/improvements to the version 1.
  Here is the list of planned changes (let's put aside bugs to be
  fixed because this is obvious that we must fix them :-) :
 
Message editor.
  We are currently developing a new mechanism of interaction with the
  editor component so it will be possible to use different editors for
  writing messages. The first one will be a Windows-compatible one
  (RichEdit-based, RichEdit is the component used by Windows WordPad).
  It won't be able to create HTML messages, but it will allow to use
  proportional fonts for editing messages and creation messages in
  languages the current editor hardly supports.
  Another editor is being developed for creation HTML messages (please
  hold your boos, it is needed for marketing, anyway) - it is based on
  the existing code of RTV, so there is no much code to be added and
  of course, RTV bugs are the subject for removal. It produces a very
  compact HTML code, so this is a plus, but I know many of people here
  won't like it anyway. If somebody wants to write a Help article
  about proper usage of HTML in e-mail, such effort will be very
  welcomed. :-)
 
  As the editor stuff goes, there will be a plug-in interface
  available for adding custom editors, even those ones that produce
  some special (binary) output.
Scheduler.
  A built-in scheduler will be available for Beta-testing soon. It is
  not a fully-blown daytime planner, but it is suitable enough to
  create simple reminders not just about an event, but about messages
  one wish to reply to before a certain date, about messages one
  wish to get a reply to. Also, it will be possible to schedule
  automatic tasks such as:
    - message creation
    - mail check/send
    - connect/disconnect to/from the Internet
    - backup operation
    - etc. :-)
 
Plug-in interface.
  As the demand grows, it is time to start produce some code for it.
:-)
  Moreover, it is better to have this thing settled before the version
  2 comes out so those plug-ins would be imported into it.
  So, here are the areas we think plug-ins are most needed:
  - templates (possibility to add new macros)
  - filters:
      - conditions
      - actions
  - scheduler actions
  - message viewer:
      - filtering messages before they are displayed, so the output
        may be something specific to that kind of messages
      - some more viewers, so people can view attachments by clicking
        Tabs in the Message View Pane.
Building support for:
  - PGP 8. Finally - they've started publish the full source code
    again, so the plug-in and changes in The Bat! should appear soon.
 
  - BinHex and MS-TNEF attachments. Well, a bit of nonsense here, but
    I guess we should do something about it :-))
  - Additional message headers (viewing, pre-defining in the
templates)
 
So, this is it for this moment, at least what I had at the top of my
head. :-) Any comments will be appreciated.
 
Happy New Year to all of you and I hope you won't be disappointed by
our efforts in this new year :-)
 
-- 
Cheers!
 Stefan              
..."It's not true that nice guys finish last. Nice guys are winners
   before the game even starts." - Addison Walker
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-- 
Ciao!
        Gian Matteo

   some special (binary) output.
A me la soluzione "editor esterno" non piace. Non ne ho esperienza, ma
che ne è dell'interazione col client? Visualizza, modifica o inserisci
campi header, apri ed usa la rubrica indirizzi, inserisci firma, incolla
come citazione, riformatta il citato, gestione degli allegati ... c'è
una gran quantità di funzioni che sono peculiari del client email, e che
credo siano di molto meno immediato utilizzo, o vadano proprio perse, a
causa della mancata interazione con l'editor esterno. E' quello interno
che deve funzionare, e bene.
-- 
Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at 
libero.it

campi header, apri ed usa la rubrica indirizzi, 
Apri e usa la rubrica indirizzi (e tutto quanto segue) se
l`implementazione e`, come dire, `banale` (il meccanismo di cui sopra)
sarebbe perso, in quanto tu a tutti gli effetti hai il focus su
un`altra appl. con altre funzioni. se si riuscisse, ed e` da vedere se
e come e se in quali casi (per quali editor) a implementare una
finestra gestita dall`editor all`interno del pippi (metti di vedere i
programmi di posta che usano IE come motore di render per le mail
HTML), tutto si risolverebbe. ovvio che, anche se non conosco nulla di
integrazione di applicazioni e API, non e` una cosa fattibile con
tutti i programmi (credo anzi con pochi... )
comunque la domanda e` buona, sarebbe il caso di mettere mano al
vocabolario e girarla a stef.
-- 
Ciao!
        Gian Matteo

 beh, possiamo anche chiederlo a Marco D`Itri 
Si, che scriva una cosa delle sue tipo questa:
http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&ic=1&selm=an_628820033
:-)
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A me la soluzione "editor esterno" non piace.
come dicevo sulla ML degli utenti italiani, oramai e` troppo tardi :-)
per la relase 1.63 e` molto probabile che sara` gia` possibile usare
un editor esterno.
Version 1.63 Beta/1 is now available 
Here are the changes:
[*] Folders are now stored in new format (ACCOUNT.FLD), which should
    be more safe for networking and system crashes
[+] Possibility to use an alternative editor using the Message Editor
    "Options|Message format" menu options.
    It is not completed yet, but you can test it anyway - most of
    functions are working :-)
NOTE: it is recommended to backup your folders before starting with
this Beta.
Mail list The Bat ITA 
http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/tbul
 , 
tbul-subscribe (presso) 
smartgroups.com
-- 
Ciao!
        Gian Matteo

 un editor esterno.
Ovviamente non mi disturba che si _possa_ usare un editor esterno,
quello che non sopporterei è di doverlo usare per avere una decente
gestione dei paragrafi, ma perdendo quindi tutta l'interazione di cui si
parlava.
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parlava.
per adesso quello che danno loro lavora in una pippi-finestra :-),
quindi address book e balle varie sono accessibili...
-- 
Ciao!
        Gian Matteo

 :-)
Rende perfettamente l'idea.
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