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Titolo: McBain: l'ultimo ballo oppure...???

Salve a tutti... sto per partire e come tutti quelli che viaggiano in
treno, porterņ con me un buon libro. Ma in questo momento non so quale
scegliere. Le possibilitą sono tra Ed McBain "l'ultimo ballo" oppure
Robert Crais "L.A. Killer" o "La squadra". Cosa mi consigliate?
Grazie, Titty
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Fra i due Crais LA Killer.
Mcbain non l'ho letto ma lo porterei via sulla fiducia ;-))
A proposito di tascabili, Ho visto che  č uscito un supplemento al
giallo Mondadori di un certo Courtney, Fermate il mondo (copertina
nera con un 'pelato' con sgaurdo cagnagliesco ;-)))  ). 
L'ho preso istintivamente....
Ciao Nicola

 Grazie, Titty
Robert Crais "L.A. Killer".
Ciao e buone ferie
Rex  :-))

L'ho preso istintivamente....
Io, invece, mi sono trattenuto (per ora).
Qualcuno ha qlc info in piu' sul volume in questione?
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Qualcuno ha qlc info in piu' sul volume in questione?
Dave Courtney Interview
by Eoin Sanders
Dave Courtney is one of London's best known former gangsters - in his
time his vast amount of criminal contacts have led to him being dubbed
the "Yellow Pages of Crime". On the darker side he's been shot and
stabbed and has had to kill to stay alive…
Now a best-selling author (with a new book out called The Ride's Back
On), sometime actor, and star of his own documentary we caught up with
him in hospital where he's recovering from a serious car crash.
SANDERS: Ok, I suppose the easiest place to start would be to ask what
happened?
COURTNEY: I was coming home on the A2, doing about 100 miles an hour
when I saw a car coming up towards me really quick - I was in the new
Range Rover - I thought bollocks I'm not moving over. So he pulled
over into the inside lane to come up alongside and just clipped me and
off I went - about 180 yards down the road and rolled 12 times. 
I've broken my pelvis at the back, smashed it at the front. I've had
bits of metal put in me, I've had two vertebrae broken off my spine, I
broke my coccyx, my ankle, six ribs, punctured my lungs, fractured my
skull, ruptured my spleen and ruptured my kidneys - apart from that I
feel fine…oh, and I've got a verucca.
SANDERS: How long were you in a coma for?
COURTNEY: I was in a coma for four weeks - a long time. I was on
morphine for about five weeks and it was possibly the most memorable
five weeks of my life. I had a three-hour chat with Elvis, that's how
good it was.
While I was in a coma, a priest had been in because my mum, being a
good catholic, wanted me baptised before I popped my clogs. I could
hear what was going on which was awful because my missus is crying and
squeezing me and saying, "make a move" and I couldn't move to actually
say I'm all right. I just heard this vicar saying "well, he's going to
the other side, he's in no pain…" 
I wanted to say, "shut up you bastard!" My mum and my wife were being
very brave up until the time he came in and started that. I just
wanted to get up and chin him, and that's how I pulled through. There
but for the grace of God go I. 
When you wake up from a coma you think that you had the accident just
a couple of hours ago, you don't know you've been there a month. I
didn't believe them. They got me a mirror and I had hair and a fucking
beard and a moustache and that! I thought "Arrgh, I've come back as
someone else - and he's an ugly bastard with a big nose and hair". It
was weird. 
SANDERS: Interesting; on the one hand you've got a reputation as the
flash bastard
COURTNEY: Yeah, and well deserved…
SANDERS: But on the other you did start out as a villain - have you
any idea why you seem to be so popular?
COURTNEY: The biggest weapon the police have is the power of the
media. They can say anything they want and, because they've got to
take the high moral stance, anyone who's done anything naughty in
their life, ever, cannot have anything good said about them - they
can't glamorise crime, glorify it or justify it. You know - you robbed
a bank 20 years ago so you're an horrible bastard. 
The truth is; the fact that you do something naughty for a job doesn't
necessarily make you a horrible person. If it's robbing banks, it's
the same as being a plumber - he gets his tools of the trade, he goes
on site, he does his job and he comes home. He's not a plumber in the
front room. He doesn't sit there playing with a monkey wrench on the
settee and I don't sit there with a gun going "make me a sandwich". 
The only gangsters that are allowed to go on television and speak are
normally people that are going to crucify themselves by talking like
"uurgh, do 'im, let's kill 'im" and because I don't do badly in front
of a camera and I don't mind someone sticking a microphone in front of
my face. I can rabbit away… Being popular is what's causing me the
problems.
SANDERS: Why's that?
COURTNEY: I'm no longer a threat to the police - the problem they've
got is that everyone actually likes Dave and some way they've got to
stop people liking him - coz he just run for Mayor last year for
fuck's sake and he beats policemen up! 
I know it's million to one chance I'd get in but once I'd looked at my
application there were only 14 other applicants. Only 3% of people in
London actually vote for London mayor, and I make people travel all
over the world to go to raves - So to get someone to turn up first
thing in the morning and put a cross on a bit of paper for nothing -
people would do it for me. 
It was a genuine threat. The man that is democratically voted in to be
Lord Mayor is in charge of the Metropolitan Police - and they just hit
panic stations there. 
So they concocted a story 24 hours before the vote and said "we're
banning you from the vote." I asked why and they said, "you've lied on
the application form", I said I hadn't and they said "it says here you
haven't been in prison in the last five years" and I said I hadn't.
They said, "Well you've written a book and said you've been to
Belmarsh". 
I said I was on remand and I got not guilty so that doesn't count!
They said "you are right there but we'll have to run it past the board
and the board don't sit until the day after tomorrow". 
So they nicked my ten grand for my entry and then threw me out. Which
is exactly what they did with Jeffrey Archer so me and Jeffrey Archer
- although he might not like to say so - we're both running along very
similar lines. We're both best-selling authors, we've both run for
mayor, we've both been thrown out from running for mayor, we've both
been to the Old Bailey - but that's where the similarity stops because
he got guilty and I never…
SANDERS: So do you reckon you're more of a thorn in their side now
you've gone legit?
COURTNEY: They've actually said this to me. I am now 500 times more of
a thorn in their side than I ever was when I was active. I take that
as the biggest compliment and intend to use freedom of speech to
exploit the faults in the police force. I'm not a policeman hater. I'm
not a stupid fucking idiot. I do know that 75% or 60% of the police
force are incorrupt. 
I've had ten not guiltys - how upset are they? The last time I went to
court the copper went to prison and I beat him up in court. You
understand what I'm saying? I'm not saying they're horrible, I'm
saying they're the same as anyone else in the world. I've bloodied
their nose on numerous occasions and I'm not fucking stupid enough to
think that they're going to go "ah well, doesn't matter, Dave you
really got us that time." 
SANDERS: You've already been tried and been found not guilty too for
other crimes - so you can't be tried again right?
COURTNEY: Well you can, the double jeopardy law's going to be gone
soon so you can be tried again. Another reason I'm leaving the
country.
SANDERS: On that subject…sort of…the film? Tell me about that.
COURTNEY: Ah, the film. The most enjoyable thing I've ever done! Guy
Ritchie's a friend of mine - I auditioned for Snatch in my back garden
and gave me the part of Brick Top, I was learning the lines and all
that. 
Then all of a sudden the powers that be got in touch with him and went
"we can't have Dave Courtney in the film". He's tried to stick up and
say "I want him in the film" and they've gone "well we won't finance
the film if you have him in it." So I've had to make my own film
myself. 
Now Virgin are cracking away with my books and I've got two or three
books to come out. I've got one coming out called Hell To Make, a book
about making the film and I've got the novel Hell To Pay that's the
film as a novel.
The problem is, if you look at all the rest of them they're retired;
Freddie Foreman, Tony Lambrianou and the others. The police look at me
at my age and go "yeah right…" 
The only member of the so-called criminal world that intends to carry
on badmouthing me I'm afraid is Frankie Fraser. The geezer's an
absolute fucking arsehole and the only reason I'm allowed to say this
is because he is. If he wasn't an arsehole I'd actually have someone
talk to me about it and say "Oi, don't say that."
He admits he's never pulled anyone's teeth out with pliers. The closer
you get to know him you actually realise it's all myth, he's a wanker
and it's all untrue. I'd love to write a book about something that
happened 40 years ago - I could tell as many lies as I want, half the
people involved are dead! But I'm writing about things that are
happening now and people that are still on it. He's full of shit. 
SANDERS: It's quite bizarre the way you've transformed yourself.
COURTNEY: I haven't transformed myself! I haven't. I was exactly the
same person as you're speaking to now when I was active. In the
daytime I would have done something else that's all. I never said I
was a paid killer.
SANDERS: Gangland Murderer is the phrase normally used…
COURTNEY: I shot at someone that fucking killed my mate first! I was
standing beside someone that got shot and killed! Maybe my crime was I
had a gun on me at the time but after my mates been shot the other
fellah's definitely fair game!
I would like to find the man who would stand up and say he would do
anything different that what I done. I know they go "gangland
murderer" and all that - but if you could show me a man who'd say,
"well I wouldn't shoot back, I'd rather die", I'll show you a liar.
I will actually make bigger exposes. If you look at my documentary at
the end of it I turn round to the camera and I say "and for doing that
to me I will really hurt you". That means nothing to anyone else apart
from certain policemen because they know what they done and how
naughty that was. 
Forget the fucking job bit - they're a copper and I'm a baddie - just
on the man bit -that was wrong what they done. As a man. That was
wrong. And when I went "I will hurt you for that", I meant it.
***
Ciao, Luca
LC

 SANDERS: Gangland Murderer is the phrase normally used.
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Tnx, preso.
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 Giuseppina
Inizialmente pensavo tu fossi un troll.
Pur da antimilitarista e avversatore di Berlusconi quale sono
trovo veramente privo di senso il boicottaggio di una lingua solo
perche' qualcuno che la parla fa qualcosa che non ci piace. Con questo
principio in che lingua dovremmo leggere ? tibetano ? Bastardi ce ne
sono e ce ne sono stati in tutte le nazioni.
Per quanto riguarda il "culto" della lingua inglese non capisco a cosa
tu ti riferisca. Se uno riesce a leggere in lingua originale e' ovvio
che lo faccia: da molto piu' gusto. Ci sono delle sfumature che non
si possono tradurre.
Dire che la lingua inglese sia "assai brutta" mi sembra opinabile e
puerile e forse dovuto a qualche trauma infantile durante 
l'apprendimento della medesima.
Pur non essendo berlusconiano e non avendola studiata a scuola,
trovo che la lingua usata da Shakespeare, Raymond Chandler e Wodehouse
(tanto per citarne 3 a caso) sia espressiva, suggestiva e spesso anche
bellissima.
Lo stesso dicasi per la lingua italiana (se usata bene) e probabilmente
per ogni lingua: il problema non e' la lingua, ma quello che si dice.
ciao,
g.

"culto"della lingua inglese,peraltro assai brutta.
Mi sembra che Berlusconi rivolga la sua venerazione a Bush, piů che
alla lingua di costui, che č cosa ben diversa (e ancora piů
preoccupante, casomai).
Avendo io dedicato gran parte dei miei primi quarant'anni a occuparmi
di lingua inglese e americana (che, grazie al cielo, mi danno pure da
vivere) capirai come il sentirla definire "assai brutta" mi lasci
leggermente perplesso.
Soprattutto perché tanti nostri connazionali parlano (e scrivono)
l'italiano cosě male, che a scanso di equivoci sarebbe forse meglio si
esprimessero direttamente in inglese...
Ciao, Luca
LC

 che č cosa ben diversa (e ancora piů preoccupante, casomai).
Tristemente vero, si'.
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Resto sempre una tua estimatrice
Meno male :-)
Ciao, Luca
LC

 lo scrittore e nemmeno mi passa per la testa di diventarlo.
Ma nel risvolto di copertina del libro di Pagan avevo letto qualcosa
di diverso... ;-)
Buone vacanze.
Ciao, Enzo

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Altri tempi :-))
Ciao, Luca