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Titolo: Magari fosse solo la Cina. Oggi abbiamo anche la classifica ... :-))

Questo interessante articolo, mette in evidenza che i vantaggi di 
investire in alcuni paesi non e' un vantaggio solo per i costi, ma sta 
diventando anche un vantaggio riguardo la forza lavoro e il sistema 
scolastico che, udite udite, sarebbe migliore dei sistemi occidentali 
sotto molti aspetti.
http://www.ednasia.com/may04/online_news_may28a.htm
Sottolineo ancora che secondo taluni sarei completamente OT benche 
l'articolo venga preso da EDN che evidentemente considera invece 
l'argomento pienamente OT. :-))
PS: Devo dire che sulla Repubblica Ceca un pensierino lo sto facendo ... 
nel senso che gia' sapete .... ;-)
Friday, May 28, 2004 
TOP NEWS:
Competition as well as Cost Drives Job Exports
In the United States in particular, this year being an election year, 
the migration of jobs overseas, -- blue-collar manufacturing jobs, 
midlevel service jobs as well as white-collar positions -- is a hot 
button issue, to be sure.
China and India, in particular are threats or promises, depending on 
one's perspective. But the widely-held belief that cost cutting is all 
that’s behind the export of white collar jobs from established economies 
to low cost regions such as India and China has been turned upside down 
by a new study. 
The report finds other factors such as falling education standards, low 
per capita productivity and punitive taxation levels are equally to 
blame.
Although cost is a major contributing factor, many other fundamentals 
underlie the apparent exodus of white-collar professional jobs from 
rich, established economies like the United States to low cost regions. 
These include the availability and general skill level of local workers 
and a pro-business environment that avoids punishing taxation levels.
Moreover, rather than attacking this job exportation, critics would be 
better off accepting it for what it is: a very clear and loud warning 
that unless established economies such as those in the United States and 
Germany get their own houses into order in terms of educational 
standards, research investment, business innovation, training and 
productivity, the trend will only continue.
According to a study entitled the "Offshore Location Attractiveness 
Index" by global management consultancy firm A.T. Kearney, the top 25 
countries in the study’s rankings offer a wide range of attractions 
above and beyond cost, compared to more established white-collar 
countries.
Large population countries such as India and China, and to a lesser 
extent, Russia, Brazil and the Philippines, are said to offer vast pools 
of educated workers. At the other end of the spectrum, small, highly-
developed economies like Singapore, New Zealand, Ireland and Australia 
are said to offer excellent infrastructure, education systems and 
business-friendly low risk environments that also make them attractive 
offshoring locations.
India, which is now an established leader in offshore IT and business 
process outsourcing, tops the study’s index by a wide margin and was 
ranked first not only for cost advantages but also for the depth and 
breadth of its offshoring experience and people skills, favorable tax 
rates and high English language skills.
While trailing India in terms of its language skills and experience, 
China ranks second, thanks to a similar combination of low-cost, high-
volume skills and a large educated labor pool, according to the study. 
China has been particularly successful at becoming an offshore location 
for Japanese and Korean companies, as well as for U.S. and multinational 
companies of various origin.
Of course, this is no secret to the semiconductor industry.
Both China and India score poorly, however, for political and economic 
risk and poorly developed infrastructures. China also scores 
particularly poorly in areas of IP piracy and bureaucratic red tape, and 
needs to improve its English language skills if it wants to better 
challenge India, the report states.
Malaysia, Singapore and the Philippines also rank in the top 10, 
confirming the strength of Asia in the global offshore market. 
Meanwhile, the Czech Republic, Poland and Hungary are said to score 
highly because of growing interest in offshoring among Western European 
companies. Brazil and Chile lead the pack in Latin America.
Higher Income Countries Don't Have to Lose Out
Higher income locations like Canada, New Zealand and Australia are 
further said to perform well and prove that developed countries can be 
profitable offshore destinations despite their higher cost structure. 
This is primarily because of higher education levels -- all higher 
income countries contending as offshore locations score highly on 
standardized international assessments of mathematical, scientific and 
reading literacy -- as well as infrastructure quality and pro-business 
political and taxation environments.
"Countries concerned about exporting jobs should address the factors 
they can affect on their own shores," summarizes A.T. Kearney's Paul 
Laudicina, co-author of the report. "There is no silver bullet.
"But by raising educational standards, investing in research, providing 
more extensive training and reinforcing the culture of innovation, 
[established rich economy] countries can remain competitive, gaining the 
productivity benefits of offshoring while minimizing and managing the 
short-term risks."
The top 12 global offshore locations in 2004, according to A.T. Kearney 
are as follows:
1 - India 
2 - China 
3 - Malaysia 
4 - Czech Republic 
5 - Singapore 
6 - Philippines 
7 - Brazil 
8 - Canada 
9 - Chile 
10 - Poland 
11 - Hungary 
12 - New Zealand
 
By Andrew Woolls-King, Electronics News (the Australian sister pub of 
Electronic News and EDN Asia)
 
-- 
What the eyes see and the ears hear, the mind believes.

...tanto per gradire (ma basta usare google per trovarne quanti volete):
Biotech:
http://www.fortune.com/fortune/technology/articles/0,15114,370081,00.htm
l
Nanotech:
http://www.nanoinvestornews.com/modules.php
?
name=Countries&op=viewloc&country=china
http://www.smalltimes.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=2736
http://www.nanovip.com/directory/Detailed/218.php
http://www.nanovip.com/directory/International/China/index.php
http://nanotechweb.org/articles/news/1/9/4/1
Preparatevi alla Shitstorm :-))
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sotto molti aspetti.
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Scusa ma secondo me sei OT. I tuoi ragionamenti sono interessanti ma
di ingegneria c'e' poco. Qui si tratta di politica.

 di ingegneria c'e' poco. Qui si tratta di politica.
Mi incuriosisce la tua concezione di ingegneria. Anche sui periodici
della formale e semi-accademica IEEE temi del genere sono spesso in
primo piano e dopotutto un ingegnere non può dirsi tale se gli mancano
le basi dell'ECONOMIA (micro o macro).
La politica, invece, la ritengo un'altra cosa.
Per me non è affatto OT.

 ha scritto nel messaggio
news:v5ead0ppr57ofmi8k...@4ax.com...
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_NON E'_  OT.
Se poi vogliamo far diventare in Italia l'ingegneria OT, questa è un'altra
storia.
--
Gli antichi romani hanno conquistato il mondo
e hanno convinto le popolazioni a far parte del
loro impero con le opere di ingegneria.
Il nostro punto di forza invece sono le pizzerie
e la moda, la mafia e la corruzione.

 nel senso che gia' sapete .... ;-)
industria della gnocca?

*Jean Paul* wrote:
::: Questo interessante articolo, mette in evidenza che i vantaggi di
::: investire in alcuni paesi non e' un vantaggio solo per i costi, ma sta
::: diventando anche un vantaggio riguardo la forza lavoro e il sistema
::: scolastico che, udite udite, sarebbe migliore dei sistemi occidentali
::: sotto molti aspetti.
::
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::
:: Scusa ma secondo me sei OT. I tuoi ragionamenti sono interessanti ma
:: di ingegneria c'e' poco. Qui si tratta di politica.
Sono d'accordo, e secondo la mia opinione sarebbe meglio o creare
un ng apposito all'interno del quale discutere delle problematiche
tecnologico-politiche dell'italia nei conftronti del resto del mondo,
oppure moderare la frequenza di questi messaggi su questo newsgroup
dal momento che normalmente questo comportamento è ormai assimilabile
a quello di un troll, senza alcuna offesa per nessuno e senza nulla togliere
per quanto riguarda l'interesse e l'importanza delle osservazioni di GG.
Ciao.