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Titolo: Info eco HF-8

Ciao a tutto il NG
Qualcuno ha provato questa antenna???
Dopo aver bagliato 7+, CP6, canna da pesca e naturalmente questa, sono 
indeciso fra lunghezza 8 mt circa) della canna da pesca e la 
"ottimizzazione" a dimensioni ridotte della HF8.
Dovrei installarla su un palazzo di 4 piani, non posso stendere lunghi fili 
di contrappeso, traffico locale e DX non esasperato (FT817 con linearino da 
100W max), e naturalmente vorrei che coprisse un po' tutte le bande HF.(e la 
HF8 è l'unica che copre dagli 80 ai 10 mt tra quelle di marca)
Naturalmente accetto anche altri suggerimenti (ma abbiate anche pietà per il 
mio porafogli... odia rimanere da solo!!!!)
Ciao  Marco  IW2EJM 

Ma scusa, meglio della canna da pesca che vuoi? Il suo costo e' imbattibile, 
ho completato la mia con circa 50 euro...
Pensaci collega, un antenna tuner onesto, magari manuale come un mfj e la 
canna da pesca sono un'ottima soluzione. La canna e' autoportante, se si 
rompe qualcosa puoi sempre metterci mano, non ha bisogno di 
contrappesi...quindi mi sa che fa proprio al caso tuo! 

Marco VIlla - IW2EJM ha scritto:
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Io la uso con soddisfazione. Costruzione robusta, dimensioni ridotte, 
con 80 w ho collegato anche WB3.
Il ROS per il momento non te lo so dire, siccome quella acquistata da me 
usata ha un problema ad una trappola, non dovuto all'antenna stessa, e 
sto aspettando quella di ricambio.
Nella parte che non dipende dalla trappola in questione, posso dirti che 
è sempre compreso 1:2 come dice il manuale e la descrizione.
Insomma: per quel tipo di antenna, direi che va bene.
Sempre a disposizione  per eventuali ragguagli.
Marco

not to divulge their names or stories, as
"their lives would not be safe for five years to come," if the
brothel-keepers and their former owners knew that they had informed
against them. It is a little difficult to describe the various secret
societies of Chinatown in full, but for practical purposes and as
relates to the welfare of Chinese women, it may be said that the
secret society, or tong, is a sort of mutual benefit society and has
generally a very commendable sort of name; but it exists to divide the
profits of the trade in women, among other villainies. When anyone
gives any evidence against such a society, or informs a rescue worker
where a girl will be found who desires her liberty, then some one from
the tong that has a special interest in the profits of that girl's
slavery, deposits a sum of money in a place mutually arranged for, and
the highbinder society undertakes for the sum paid to see that the
informer is assassinated within twenty-four hours. That is the length
of time usually claimed for the act. But sometimes years may pass
before the marked victim can be traced and killed.
We will next give a few cases from the records of the Presbyterian and
Methodist Mission Rescue Homes of San Francisco, which will clearly
show the similarity between the state of affairs in Hong Kong and
California.
CHAPTER 17.
STRUGGLES FOR FREEDOM.
A Chinese girl of 14 was brought to this country, and served six
months as a domestic slave, and was then put into a brothel. She was
rescued. Her Chinese master got out a writ of habeas corpus, went to
the Mission with an officer and took the girl away at once to court
before a corrupt judge. It was just at noon-time, and the missionary
pleaded for a little time in which to summon a lawyer. The judge said:
"I have no time to fool with this case." The lawyer arrived in haste
and pleaded for a little time in which to prepare the defense. The
judge said to the lawyer: "You shut up, or I'll have you imprisoned
for cont

by the latter officer, concluding this
portion of his remarks with the words: "What I have said has been
said to meet arguments, doubts, and difficulties which have paralyzed
public opinion and public action here; which arguments, doubts and
difficulties are the less easy to combat because they have been rather
hinted at than avowed."
The Chief Justice then sentenced several prisoners for enticing,
kidnaping or detaining children with intent to sell them into slavery,
to penal servitude for terms ranging from 18 months to 2 years.
On October 20th, Sir John Smale wrote the Governor:
    "I cannot understand why such classes should as classes increase
    in this Colony at all, unless it be that (in addition to the
    Chinese demand for domestic servants and brothels) there be an
    increased foreign element increasing the demand. I fear that a
    high premium is obtained by persons who kidnap girls in the high
    prices which they realize on sale to foreigners as kept women.[A]
    No one can walk through some of the bye-streets in this Colony
    without seeing well dressed China girls in great numbers whose
    occupations are self-proclaimed; or pass those streets, or go into
    the schools in this Colony, without counting beautiful children
    by the hundred whose Eurasian origin is self-declared. If the
    Government would inquire into the present condition of these
    classes, and still more, into what has become of these women and
    their children of the past, I believe that it will be found that
    in the great majority of cases the women have sunk into misery,
    and that of the children the girls that have survived have been
    sold to the profession of thei

Ciao,
io la sto usando da diversi anni col kit degli 80m.
la costruzione e' robusta, un po' pesante per spostarla da soli e i radiali 
che sono utlissimi la rendono un po' ingombrante.
con i dipoli il rumore e' molto minore, ma lo fanno tutte le verticali.
dx molto buoni, ottima per che in poco spazio vuole fare piu' fre. 
possibili.
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Quindi anche sugli 80 mt funziona bene ??? (chiaramente non pretendo di 
paragonarla ad un dipolo full size, ma nemmeno a un carico fittizio)
Ma qualcuno la ha paragonata ad una canna da pesca??
Ciao  Marco IW2EJM