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Titolo: CW noi aspettiamo ancora un po' perche' siamo piu' furbi degli altri

Questi i paesi dove il CW non č piů materia d'esame!!!
L'Italia non c'č ancora. Come mai?????
Qualcuno lo sa?????
Ciao
most recent updates
  a.. 4 February 2005: South Africa drops Morse code
  b.. 7 September: Bulgarian licence changes
  c.. 3 August: Polish class 2 amateurs get limited access to HF
  d.. 19 July: Belgium and Estonia implemented T/R 61-02
  e.. 27 June: Netherlands implemented T/R 61-01
  f.. 19 June: Croatia, Cyprus and Netherlands implemented T/R 61-02
  g.. 5 June: New Zealand
  h.. 2 June 2004: UK implemented T/R 61-02
  i.. 17 May 2004: France
  j.. 10 May 2004: 5 countries implemented T/R 61-02
  k.. 9 May 2004: Estonia, Switzerland and Slovak Republic implemented T/R 
61-01
  l.. 23 April 2004: Sweden
Radio Regulations article 25.5 now reads:
"Administrations shall determine whether or not a person seeking a licence 
to operate an amateur station shall demonstrate the ability to send and 
receive texts in Morse code signals."
Morse code is no longer an internationally required qualification for an 
amateur licence, though an administration may still require it.
There is a growing, list of administrations that no longer require Amateur 
Radio applicants to pass a Morse code test to have access to HF. For those 
countries that did not drop the Morse Code test yet the following overview 
may be of help.
In Region 1
CEPT developments
Recommendation T/R 61-01 has been revised in October 2003 and reflects the 
outcome of WRC-03 concerning Article 25 of the ITU Radio Regulations. The 
mandatory Morse code requirement has been removed and the number of amateur 
classes has been reduced from two to one. A new version of Recommendation 
T/R 61-02 was accepted by RAWG in Vilnius (2-6 February 2004). So far 17 
administrations have implemented T/R 61-01 (see 
http://www.ero.dk/documentation/docs/implement.asp?docid=1802
) and 12 
administrations have implemented T/R 61-02 (see 
http://www.ero.dk/documentation/docs/implement.asp?docid=1803
)
Austria
On 26 November 2003 Austria removed the Morse code requirement in Austria. 
See 
http://www.oevsv.at/
 under Novelle der Amateurfunkverordnung. T/R 61-01 
has been implemented on 25 February 2004. See 
http://ris1.bka.gv.at/authentic/findbgbl.aspx?name=entwurf&format=pdf&docid=COO_2026_100_2_52266
Belgium
On 31 July 2003 the BIPT webpage announced that Belgian Class B license 
holders can apply for a class A license effective 4 August 2003. See 
Mededeling van het BIPT betreffende de radioamateurs (Dutch text) and 
Communiqué de l'IBPT concernant les radioamateurs (French text). T/R 61-01 
and T/R 61-02 have been implemented.
Bulgaria
T/R 61-01 has been implemented. On 27 August 2004 the Bulgarian 
Communications Regulation Commission announced the removal of Morse Code 
requirement in the State Gazette No 75 with immediate effect.
Croatia
T/R 61-01 and T/R 61-02 have been implemented.
Cyprus
T/R 61-02 has been implemented.
Denmark
T/R 61-01 and T/R 61-02 have been implemented. The Morse code requirement 
was dropped effective 1 February 2004. See 
http://www.edr.dk
Estonia
T/R 61-01 and T/R 61-02 have been implemented.
Finland
From 1 November 2003  Finland dropped the Morse requirement. Also Novices 
are allowed to operate on HF. (source DARC webpage). T/R 61-01 and T/R 61-02 
have been implemented.
France
From 4 May 2004 France dropped the Morse requirement. See 
http://www.ref-union.org/accueil/actualites/pdf/7_mai_Lettre_du_Ministre.pdf
Germany
Starting 15 August 2003, an estimated 33,000 German Class 2 VHF/UHF-only 
licensees were permitted access to the HF bands on an equal footing with 
current Class 1 licensees. "Morse telegraph knowledge as a prerequisite to 
use the high-frequency bands is no longer required," said a statement from 
the German Federal Ministry of Economy and Labor (BMWA). "These rules apply 
for foreign Amateur Radio licensees with comparable privileges operating 
during visits in Germany." At least for now, the upgraded Class 2 licensees 
will use their current call signs (prefixes include DB, DC, DD and DG). The 
BMWA said the Regulatory Authority for Telecommunication and Post (Reg TP) 
will make appropriate adjustments in the amateur rules to accommodate the 
change. The Ministry also asked newly minted HF operators to use care in 
exercising their new privileges and to follow accepted HF band plans. 
Switzerland was the first country to drop the Morse requirement, albeit on a 
provisional basis while it makes provisions for a permanent rule change. See 
http://www.bmwa.bund.de/bmwa/Navigation/arbeit,did=22652.html
 (German text). 
T/R 61-01 and T/R 61-02 have been implemented.
Iceland
T/R 61-01 has been implemented.
Ireland
Ireland removed the Morse requirement effective 15 September 2003. See 
http://www.comreg.ie/_fileupload/publications/PR150903a.pdf
. T/R 61-01 has 
been implemented.
Kenia
Effective 2 April 2004 Morse code proficiency has been dropped as a 
requirement. See 
http://www.qsl.net/arsk/license.htm
Liechtenstein
T/R 61-01 has been implemented.
Lithuania
T/R 61-01 has been implemented.
Luxembourg
On 18 september the Luxemburg Regulatory Institute decided on a provisional 
arrangement to allow Class 2 amateurs on HF. See 
http://www.etat.lu/ILR/freq/decis/03-69-service%20radioamateur-frequences.htm
. 
T/R 61-01 has not yet been implemented (as of 27 Dec 2003).
Netherlands
On 19 August 2003 the Dutch Telecom Agency announced that effective 1 
September 2003 Morse code is no longer required for HF access. Class C 
license holders now have the same rights as Class A license holders. This is 
a national arrangement only. See 
http://www.agentschap-telecom.nl/informatie/publicaties/diversen/morseverplichting_radioz.html
 
(Dutch text). T/R 61-01 and T/R 61-02 have been implemented.
Norway
At the annual NRRL conference on 16 Augustus 2003 the Norwegian PTT 
announced dropping the Morse requirement with immediate effect. On 18 
Augustus 2003 all class B license holders received a letter that said: All 
existing LC.... licenses (this is the class 2 licenses above 30 MHz that had 
no CW requirements) have been converted to LA licenses and they have all 
been given new LA call signs (so no LC... should be in use for normal 
amateur operator call signs any more). The full license (LA) have 1 kW on 
HF. LB licenses have been offered to optionally change into LA... call signs 
if they want. No new LB.. licenses will be issued, but the existing ones 
have been given full privileges similar to LA. Both LA and LB are classified 
as CEPT class 1. T/R 61-01 has been implemented.
Poland
Effective 14 August 2004 Polish class B (no Morse code) amateurs have access 
to 80 and 10 meters. The renewed T/R 61-01 is accepted in Poland.
Portugal
T/R 61-01 and T/R 61-02 have been implemented.
Slovak Republic
T/R 61-01 has been implemented.For use of the HF bands Morse code is still 
required.
South Africa
With effect 4 February 2005 South Africa drops the Morse code requirement. 
See 
http://www.sarl.org.za/default.asp
Sweden
Effective 20 April 2004 Sweden dropped the Morse code requirement. See 
http://www.ssa.se/index.php?varID=81
 (Swedish text)
Switzerland
Switzerland was the first country to remove the Morse requirement. In July 
2003 a temporary arrangement came into effect.
http://www.uska.ch/html/de/iaru/brief_f.html(French
 text)
http://www.uska.ch/html/de/iaru/brief_d.html
 (German text)
http://www.uska.ch/html/de/iaru/brief_i.html
 (Italian text). T/R 61-01 and 
T/R 61-02 have been implemented.
Turkey
Accepts the new T/R 61-01 but will retain the Morse Code requirement for the 
present. T/R 61-02 has been implemented.
United Kingdom
Class B license holders have the same right as class A license holders 
effective 26 July 2003. See 
http://www.radio.gov.uk/topics/amateur/document/removalofmorse.htm
.  for 
details. A FAQ-list is available on the RSGB-website 'Frequently Asked 
Questions' and answers. T/R 61-01 and T/R 61-02 have been implemented.
In other Regions
Australia
Dropped the Morse code requirement effective 1 January 2004. See 
http://www.aca.gov.au/aca_home/media_releases/media_enquiries/2003/03-51.htm
Hong Kong
dropped Morse Code on 11 February 2004. See docs\HongKong.pdf
New Zealand
the Ministry has removed the morse operating competency from the New Zealand 
syllabus with effect from 17 June 2004. Existing Limited Amateur Operator 
licensees are deemed to be General Amateur Operator licensees, however there 
will be no requirement for licensees to change their callsign. The Ministry 
is also considering related matters such as reciprocal licensing 
arrangements.
Papua New Guinea
IARU representative for PNGARS Rick Warnett - P29KFS sent the following 
message:
It is with some sense of achievement that I wish to advise that the Papua 
New Guinea Telecommunications Administration, PANGTEL, has deleted Morse 
Code from the qualifications necessary to access HF bands in PNG. This was 
decided on 6/10/2003 and will be advised  formally in the next few days. 
Some 30-40 new "full calls" will now have access to HF radio and the 
international communication possible. I wish them every enjoyment and hope 
you will hear them "on air" soon.
Singapore
Effective 15 September 2003 Singapore dropped the Morse code requirement. A 
copy of the letter from iDA to SARTS is available images\iDAletter.jpg
Amendments to the above list please to 
ha...@blondeeltimmerman.nl
73, Hans PB2T. Thanks to DF5UG, G3PJT, HS0ZEN, LA2RR, LZ1US, PE1OID, PE1RA, 
PH1L,  PH1PH and SP5HS

 L'Italia non c'è ancora. Come mai?????
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e perchè non fai come tanti che prendono la patente di classe A in paesi
dove basta usare questo tipo di documento d'identità:
US$
£
?
è facile.... basta poco "che c'è vò..."
Visto che sei piu furbo (di che?) prendi la patente di classe A in modo
rapido ed indolore.
Io me la sono presa in Italia e, ti assicuro, senza quella grande fatica che
molti in questo NG lasciano trasparire.
Ammiro un frequentatore di questo NG che dice "posso dare l'esame" e lo
dimostra ogni sera "ma non lo dò perchè è una presa in giro quella che
l'autorità compie con questo tira-molla..."
Mi sono divertito .....e molto! visto che cmq nessuno mi ha obbligato a
prendere la patente d radioamatore.
Non me lo ha neanche prescitto il medico.....
Non devo dire grazie a nessuno.
Anzi, noun grazie lo devo all'ARI di Genova che dietro "modico" compenso mi
ha fatto partecipare ad un corso che mi ha permesso di superare un esame
"facile" (IW1RNO - Alex lo ha dato in 23')
Facile rispetto ad altri paesi, lodati come innovatori in questo NG, che
hanno abolito l'esame di pratica, ma reso molto piu serio e severo l'esame
di teoria.
Decreto si decreto no: non voglio fare "il gufo" ma, secondo me, questo
decreto "imminente" arriverà in tempi "sospetti" o meglio quando ilMinistro
avrà tempo per queste cose, sicuramente meno importanti rispetto "ad altre".
Forse dovremmi iniziare a pensare che noi radioamatori non siamo cosi
importanti per il Ministero così come "crediamo" di essere.
...verrà abolito l'esame di CW? sicuramente si...ma siamo sicuri che non
verrà mantenuto un esame di pratica?
quale? quello richiesto da una delle due associazioni di "rappresentanza"?
L'esame sicuramente dovrebbe essere riformato.
A genova sono stati severi come ad un esame di Maturità in altre parti
"forse" no.
In  Italia esiste un ampia discrezionalità degli ispettorati per
quntoriguarda gli esame (pensate all'ultima sessione dove in un ispettorato
hanno dato l'esame di CW a 8WPM, come nella vecchia normativa...)
Ma guardate le percentuali di candidati > promossi, candidati > respinti nei
vari ispettorati.
Sicuramente in molte zone i candidati sono molto preparati (non oso pensare
che qualcuno possa "pensare" che le commisioni siano molto piu "benevole"
con i candidati rispetto ad altre.
Guardate le percentuali
Spero di non aver offeso qualcuno: se lo avessi fatto in qualche
modo....questo è quello che penso...
Come diceva Voltaire "non condivido il tuo pensiero ma mi farei uccidere
affinchè tu lo possa esprimere..." alla pelle ci tengo ma ognuno deve essere
libero di esprimere il suo pensiero (mi dicono che si chiami Democrazia...)
Ciao a tutti.
73 Maurizio IZ1GJK
N.B. Cmq rispetto e ammiro tantissimo i molti IW che hanno una preparazione
fornita dai vari ITIS (i Laureati non li cito nemmeno...) superiore
sicuramente a quel poco che attualmente il Ministero richiede per diventare
OM...e che sanno fare (e quindi essere) HAM SPIRIT (chissa che cosa è?)
condividendo il loro molto sapere con quelli che mno sanno.
.... un po meno quelli che hanno preso la maturità con il metodo "calcio in
cu..!" ed abituati ad avere la "pappa pronta" non ritengono neanche
necessario passare 5' al giorno per 30 giorni giusto per superare un esame
di CW a 25 ch/min

Intanto noi continuiamo ad 
aspettare.............................................................................................
In Italia si fanno solo dei gran discorsi.
Ciao
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 facile.... basta poco "che c'č vň..."

...non è che percaso stanno aspettando le elezioni?
Sarebbe una coincidenza.
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