Newsgroup: it.hobby.radioamatori
Titolo: MORSE SUPPRESS ON HF LICENSE IN ITALY ??

 Hello !
 (sorry to write in english, I don't speak "italiano")
 As you probably know, Europe will vote in next June about Morse for
 the CEPT ham licenses.
 What is the main will in Italy about CW suppress for HF access ?
 Do you want a 5 WPM CEPT class 1 (HF) license or NO CW AT ALL to
 have full access to HF bands ?
 I will be glad to have the opinion of hams that have no HF access
 at this moment, and the opinion of the italian administration if you
 know it.
 In France, ham-radio dies because of the Morse requirement. Nobody want
 to pass the exam of CW. Morse is technically an obsolet mode of
the      19th century and we will want ot buy a new age for ham-radio.
 JAPAN has yet an HF license with no CW exam. What is the situation in
 Italy ?
 73s de JM F1DFR
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f1...@my-deja.com
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I'd rather have a 15 wpm cw exam, and if someone can't bear a little cw
practice, he may as well go amuse himself pushing buttons somewhere
else...
73 es 51 de i3hev, op. mario

  to pass the exam of CW.
If nobody really wants to pass the CW exam, maybe in France ham-radio is
already dead, but not because of the CW exam, i think.
Only a deaf could not pass a 5 WPM CW test.
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73 de IZ0DGE
Giunio Costantini
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Ok Giuno,
The CW exam in France is not 5 WPM, it was 12 WPM till last january.
Actually all ham exams have been suppressed in France by a decision
of Justice. We are expecting new texts.
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Ok Mario,
But it's not what I have asked. I ask to people that have NO HF access
actually.
Anyway it's exactly what I think about CW. CW users will be better in
the army or elsewhere out the ham bands. :-)
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 The CW exam in France is not 5 WPM, it was 12 WPM till last january.
5 or 12 WPM, it doesn't seem impossible to me, it just takes a little
effort.
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f1...@my-deja.com
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Dear OM,
in fact what you are asking is: "whoever can't or won't learn CW, want to be
permitted HF access anyway?"
The answer is obvious, as it would be to this similar question: "would you
like to have your monthly fee without working?"
I don't think that Japan, or any other country, permits free HF access
without CW, this in not possible, and, if true, would be an international
regulations breach serious enough to get an international ITU courtroom
indictment; moreover, if you want complete information about japanese
regulations, an OM described in detail Japanese requirements for HF access
in uk.radio.amateur just a few days ago: you may want to read it.
As for your last, incomprehensible, statement, I can't see what may military
service have to do with ham radio service; I've had my (compulsory) military
term, as almost anyone in Italy have, and I can assure you that they don't
use CW at all! CW is nowadays a peculiar ham radio activity, and if you
bring yourself to listen to HF, you will see that French amateurs are often
enough present in telegraphy, so I don't think you represent so vast a
majority...
Just as an afterthought, I may advice to
push-buttons-but-please-no-CW-enduring novices an easy, shining, brand new
cell phone; it doesn't need any exam, there's no pile-up to confront with,
and even no PTT to operate :-)
Long live CW! Even if just to distinguish between Radio Amateurs and radio
chatters :-(
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