Newsgroup: it.comp.os.linux.iniziare
Titolo: Wine, WineX e Simcity 4 su Linux, come fare?

Ciao tutti,
ho acquistato il gioco "Simcity4 Deluxe",
siccome ho visto che in rete ce' un articolo interessante su:
http://www.simpage.net/simcity4/articles/1054017182.shtml
e spiega come installare e far funzionare Simcity su Linux,
anche avendo seguito le istruzioni per installare WineX,
non ne cavo piede.
l'installazione del gioco  va a buon fine, come da istruzioni sul sito,
peccato pero' che quando lo faccio partire, non mi viene mostrato il 
beneche0' minimo errore,
$ winex3 ./TransGaming_Drive/Program\ Files/Maxis/SimCity\ 4\ 
Deluxe/Apps/SimCity\ 4.exe
$
e si ritorna alla consolle.
qualcuno di voi e' riuscito a far funzionare con wineX o anche con Wine 
di base il gioco in questione?:-!
ciao
p.s. la mia distribuzione e' GentooLinux.
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dimenticavo di specificare anche che con Wine (winex torna 
immediatamente alla consolle) mi si aprono due finestre  "ignote"
e il programma e' piantato.....
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ho provato anche "Cedega 4.0", e mi mostra una finestra
"E' stato rilevato un debugger, fermare il debugger e riprovare."
e cliccando su Ok si torna sulla consolle....
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Ecco cosa appare con cedega sulla consolle:
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$ cedega ./TransGaming_Drive/Program\ Files/Maxis/SimCity\ 4\ 
Deluxe/Apps/SimCity\ 4.exe
wine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger...
WineDbg starting on pid 1
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/bin/wine' (0x00000000)
Breakpoint 1 at 0x4000c120
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/pthread_lib/libntdll.so' (0x40018000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/pthread_lib/libwine.so' (0x4011c000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libwine_unicode.so' (0x40131000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libwine_port.so' (0x401f8000)
No debug information in ELF '/lib/libm.so.6' (0x4021d000)
No debug information in ELF '/lib/libc.so.6' (0x40240000)
No debug information in ELF '/lib/libpthread.so.0' (0x40359000)
No debug information in ELF '/lib/libdl.so.2' (0x403ab000)
No debug information in ELF '/lib/ld-linux.so.2' (0x40000000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libkernel32.so' (0x40723000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libuser32.so' (0x407a4000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libgdi32.so' (0x408cc000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libadvapi32.so' (0x40943000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libwsock32.so' (0x4096a000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libws2_32.so' (0x40977000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libiphlpapi.so' (0x4098f000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libwininet.so' (0x4099e000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libshlwapi.so' (0x409bd000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libshell32.so' (0x409fd000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libpng.so.3' (0x40a79000)
No debug information in ELF '/lib/libz.so.1' (0x40ac7000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libole32.so' (0x40ada000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/librpcrt4.so' (0x40b3f000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libcomctl32.so' (0x40b85000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libdsound.so' (0x40c0a000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libwinmm.so' (0x40c2d000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libversion.so' (0x40c83000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/liblz32.so' (0x40c8d000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libopengl32.so' (0x40c94000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libwine_tsx11.so' (0x40d22000)
No debug information in ELF '/usr/lib/libSM.so.6' (0x40d56000)
No debug information in ELF '/usr/lib/libICE.so.6' (0x40d61000)
No debug information in ELF '/usr/lib/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/libGL.so.1' 
(0x40d7e000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libGLU.so.1' (0x40df8000)
No debug information in ELF '/usr/lib/libXext.so.6' (0x40eb3000)
No debug information in ELF '/usr/lib/libX11.so.6' (0x40ec4000)
No debug information in ELF '/usr/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1' (0x40fa9000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libddraw.so' (0x40faf000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libmsvfw32.so' (0x40d34000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libimm32.so' (0x40d45000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libwineserver.so' (0x40ff4000)
No debug information in ELF '/usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6' (0x41058000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libx11drv.so' (0x410db000)
No debug information in ELF '/usr/lib/modules/dri/radeon_dri.so' 
(0x4115b000)
No debug information in ELF '/usr/lib/libexpat.so.0' (0x413bb000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/xlcUTF8Load.so.2' (0x43b4a000)
No debug information in ELF '/usr/lib/X11/locale/lib/common/ximcp.so.2' 
(0x43b4c000)
No debug information in ELF '/usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1.0.2' (0x43b96000)
No debug information in ELF '/usr/lib/libXrender.so.1' (0x43ba0000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/
libwineoss.drv.so
' (0x43e30000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libmsacm32.so' (0x43e49000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/
libmsacm.drv.so
' (0x43f70000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/
libmidimap.drv.so
' (0x43f78000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libd3dgl.so' (0x44090000)
No debug information in ELF 
'/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/lib/libntoskrnl.so' (0x44660000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'D:\TransGaming_Drive\Program 
Files\Maxis\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe' (0x00400000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'NTDLL.DLL' (0x40056000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'KERNEL32.DLL' (0x40756000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'ADVAPI32.DLL' (0x40955000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'GDI32.DLL' (0x408eb000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'USER32.DLL' (0x407db000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'IPHLPAPI.DLL' (0x40996000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'WS2_32.DLL' (0x4097f000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'WSOCK32.DLL' (0x4096e000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'SHLWAPI.DLL' (0x409da000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'WININET.DLL' (0x409a9000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'RPCRT4.DLL' (0x40b62000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'OLE32.DLL' (0x40af9000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'COMCTL32.DLL' (0x40b93000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'SHELL32.DLL' (0x40a23000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'WINMM.DLL' (0x40c3b000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'DSOUND.DLL' (0x40c17000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'LZ32.DLL' (0x40c90000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'VERSION.DLL' (0x40c86000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'DDRAW.DLL' (0x40fc5000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'OPENGL32.DLL' (0x40cdb000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'MSVFW32.DLL' (0x40d39000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'IMM32.DLL' (0x40d4b000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'X11DRV.DLL' (0x410fa000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'MSACM32.DLL' (0x43e4e000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'WINEOSS.DRV' (0x43e33000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'MSACM.DRV' (0x43f73000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'MIDIMAP.DRV' (0x43f7a000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'D3DGL.DLL' (0x440a1000)
No debug information in 32bit DLL 'NTOSKRNL.DLL' (0x44663000)
Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0x00000044 in 32-bit 
code (0x00000044).
In 32-bit mode.
Register dump:
  CS:0073 SS:007b DS:007b ES:007b FS:003b GS:0033
  EIP:00000044 ESP:40712688 EBP:407126cc EFLAGS:00010282(  R- 00  I S - 
- 1 )
  EAX:8ea003ba EBX:00000000 ECX:00000000 EDX:c6dde860
  ESI:447d56d4 EDI:40712848
Stack dump:
0x40712688 (NTDLL.DLL.memcpy+0x468b48):  bb0e5c94 4445aa2c 4469af30 4468da8f
0x40712698 (NTDLL.DLL.memcpy+0x468b58):  00000001 403f867c 00000110 00000001
0x407126a8 (NTDLL.DLL.memcpy+0x468b68):  00000001 401033c8 403f867c 403b0000
0x407126b8 (NTDLL.DLL.memcpy+0x468b78):  407126e0 40062255 400c6ed6 40712900
0x407126c8 (NTDLL.DLL.memcpy+0x468b88):  407128fc 40712848 4469862b 407126e4
0x407126d8 (NTDLL.DLL.memcpy+0x468b98):  447d13e0 00000000 447d5560 00000000
0x407126e8 (NTDLL.DLL.memcpy+0x468ba8):
Backtrace:
=>0 0x00000044 (ebp=407126cc)
   1 0x4469862b (NTOSKRNL.DLL.NtBuildNumber+0x328e3) (ebp=40712848)
   2 0x4469891f (NTOSKRNL.DLL.NtBuildNumber+0x32bd7) (ebp=40712868)
   3 0x44698ecf (NTOSKRNL.DLL.NtBuildNumber+0x33187) (ebp=40712894)
   4 0x10014d4d (SimCity 4.exe.EntryPoint+0xf449cef) (ebp=407128b4)
   5 0x1001483e (SimCity 4.exe.EntryPoint+0xf4497e0) (ebp=40712904)
   6 0x10003508 (SimCity 4.exe.EntryPoint+0xf4384aa) (ebp=407129d8)
   7 0x00bcb3f5 (SimCity 4.exe.EntryPoint+0x397 in 
D:\TransGaming_Drive\Program Files\Maxis\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 
4.exe) (ebp=00bcb009)
   8 0x00000118 (ebp=00704810)
   9 0xb06a65d7 (NTOSKRNL.DLL.NtBuildNumber+0x6c04088f) (ebp=6d5b5e01)
*** Invalid address 0x6d5b5e01 (NTOSKRNL.DLL.NtBuildNumber+0x28f500b9)
0x00000044: addb        %al,0x0(%eax)
Modules:
Address                 Module  Name
0x00400000-00bcf000     (PE)    D:\TransGaming_Drive\Program 
Files\Maxis\SimCity 4 Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe
0x40056000-40058000     (PE)    NTDLL.DLL
0x40756000-40758000     (PE)    KERNEL32.DLL
0x407db000-407dd000     (PE)    USER32.DLL
0x408eb000-408ed000     (PE)    GDI32.DLL
0x40955000-40957000     (PE)    ADVAPI32.DLL
0x4096e000-40970000     (PE)    WSOCK32.DLL
0x4097f000-40981000     (PE)    WS2_32.DLL
0x40996000-40998000     (PE)    IPHLPAPI.DLL
0x409a9000-409ab000     (PE)    WININET.DLL
0x409da000-409dc000     (PE)    SHLWAPI.DLL
0x40a23000-40a25000     (PE)    SHELL32.DLL
0x40af9000-40afb000     (PE)    OLE32.DLL
0x40b62000-40b64000     (PE)    RPCRT4.DLL
0x40b93000-40b95000     (PE)    COMCTL32.DLL
0x40c17000-40c19000     (PE)    DSOUND.DLL
0x40c3b000-40c3d000     (PE)    WINMM.DLL
0x40c86000-40c88000     (PE)    VERSION.DLL
0x40c90000-40c92000     (PE)    LZ32.DLL
0x40cdb000-40cdd000     (PE)    OPENGL32.DLL
0x40d39000-40d3b000     (PE)    MSVFW32.DLL
0x40d4b000-40d4d000     (PE)    IMM32.DLL
0x40fc5000-40fc7000     (PE)    DDRAW.DLL
0x410fa000-410fc000     (PE)    X11DRV.DLL
0x43e33000-43e35000     (PE)    WINEOSS.DRV
0x43e4e000-43e50000     (PE)    MSACM32.DLL
0x43f73000-43f75000     (PE)    MSACM.DRV
0x43f7a000-43f7c000     (PE)    MIDIMAP.DRV
0x440a1000-440a3000     (PE)    D3DGL.DLL
0x44663000-44665000     (PE)    NTOSKRNL.DLL
Threads:
process  tid      prio
00000001 (D) D:\TransGaming_Drive\Program Files\Maxis\SimCity 4 
Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe
         00000005    0
00000003
         00000004    0
00000001 (D) D:\TransGaming_Drive\Program Files\Maxis\SimCity 4 
Deluxe\Apps\SimCity 4.exe
         00000002    0 <==
WineDbg terminated on pid 1
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non so che pesci prendere.....
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 non so che pesci prendere.....
qualche problemino con i files di configurazione di winex/cedega
o con l'installazione di simcity (magari ha bisogno di una dll specifica)
secondo me potresti provare a disinstallare sia simcity che winex/cedega/ 
reinstalli cedega e riprova
se proprio non va
ti converrebbe l'abbonamento di 1 mese alla transgaming
scarichi anche point2play che ti permette di installare graficamente il
tutto
cmq prova con emerge ad aggiornare wine/cedega - non si può mai dire
ultima strada l'emulazione (con bochs o vmware)

 ultima strada l'emulazione (con bochs o vmware)
grazie enrico per la risposta,
stavo pensando proprio ad utilizzare PointPlay,
dal sito Transgaming.com risulta che "SimCity 4 Deluxe" e' ufficialmente 
supportato con "Cedega" (ma non era WineX ? ).
ho visto che sul forum c'e' un supporto tempestivo.
se non costa molto posso farmi l'abbonamento 1 mese, per provare il 
software(e con il supporto ufficiale),
visto che utilizzando Wine from scratch e' impensabile usare degnamente 
giochi su Linux(nativamente creati per WinXP) o anche solo installarli....
e poi con wine* e tutti i suoi derivati, e' molto aleatorio il 
funzionamento dei programmi,
puo' funzionare a te, non funziona a me, installa solo ad un altro.
e a dire che come mi sono preso Simcity stavo al settimo cielo, pensando 
di abbandonare definitivamente windows dal mio cervello.!!!!
invece come sempre ce' sempre qualche magagna idiota che non permette cio'.
ciao
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 ultima strada l'emulazione (con bochs o vmware)
ho controllato sul sito della Transgaming.com e il software e' costoso,
55,00USD per 12 mesi.
i rinnovi successivi sono a 5,00USD/mese,
non ce' l'acquisto a "mese".
peccato.
quando si e' sfigati, si resta sfigati.
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