Newsgroup: it.salute.aids
Titolo: HIV e aids ?

February 2007
HIV on Trial in Australia: Court Weighs Evidence for Claims of Isolation, 
Transmission and Testing.
(HIV in Giudizio in Australia) - (English)
A motion for appeal in a criminal hearing in Adelaide, Australia has become 
the focus of international attention as fundamental claims by orthodox AIDS 
researchers - including the infamous Dr Robert Gallo - come under vigorous 
cross-examination by an attorney demanding scientific evidence that the 
virus exists.
Top AIDS industry spokespersons from around the world have appeared in 
person or by satellite in Adelaide to defend the HIV hypothesis against 
charges by a local team of scientific and medical experts known as "The 
Perth Group" who asserts that two decades of AIDS research have failed to 
produce a purified isolate of HIV, validation of the accuracy so-called HIV 
tests, or proof that HIV is transmitted through bodily fluids.
Below are two news articles about the legal proceedings. Other information 
about the trial and actual transcripts of testimony can be found at 
http://aras.ab.ca/index.php
For this week's testimony by alleged HIV discoverer Dr Robert Gallo, go 
directly to Gallo Transcript.pdf
Michael Geiger, a close observer of the events in Adelaide, reports being 
"stunned and amazed" by Gallo's statements to the court.
Geiger says, "It's difficult to tell if Gallo was defending HIV or if his 
testimony is a public admission of guilt."
Geiger urges transcript readers to note:
    * Page 1294 where Gallo agrees that he found evidence of HIV in only 40% 
of the AIDS patients  in his original study, and that 40% is not enough to 
prove HIV is the cause of AIDS:
      Attorney to Gallo: "You had.48 out of 119, or 40%?"
Gallo: "I agree"
      Attorney: "Do you agree that the isolation of HIV from only 40% of 
patients is not proof that HIV causes AIDS ?"
Gallo: "I would say of course, in and of itself, 40% isolation of a new 
virus, I would not say is the cause."
    * Page
1300 where Gallo admits to finding low percentages of HIV positivity in 
people with AIDS symptoms:
      Attorney: "For.adults with KS, 30%; for adults.with AIDS opportunistic 
infections 47%. Do you accept your figures ?"
Gallo: "I accept the figures."
    * Page 1317 where
Gallo acknowledges finding no HIV in KS lesions or in T cells, and testimony 
on page 1318 in which Gallo admits that "viral load" tests cannot be used to 
prove infection with a virus.
The language in news articles covering the Adelaide trial speaks loudly and 
clearly of media prejudice in AIDS reporting. In the first of the two pieces 
that follow, medical and scientific experts challenging the notion that HIV 
has been isolated according to proper, scientific standards are branded "an 
organized group of HIV deniers" and lack official titles such as MD, while 
those being called by the court to produce evidence are referred to as 
"experts" with repeated references to their professional credentials.
The obvious bent of Australian coverage is at least one step up from the US 
media response: Not a single story on the uproar from down under has 
appeared in American news.
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 February 2007...
Caro G.Paolo, a causa del mio scarso inglese, sono costretto a
lavorare di intuizione ed immagino che questo sia uno dei soliti
messaggi che che mettono in dubbio la relazione tra HIV e AIDS.
Invito, pertanto, i lettori a leggere tutti i link segnalati in questa
discussione su un altro NG:
http://groups.google.it/group/it.scienza.medicina/browse_frm/thread/3c4991158e789115/5757ad69113ed1d0#5757ad69113ed1d0
Se presente, cliccate su "Espandi tutto" e non su "Comprimi tutto";
secondo me, si segue meglio la discussione.
P.S. Certo che questa nuova versione di Google Groups proprio non mi
piace; presto mi vedrete postare con un newsreader invece che dal web.
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ANTAN