Newsgroup: it.comp.giochi.rpg.ultimaonline
Titolo: UNA RISPOSTA DELLA ORIGIN A UN FEDERIK INFURIATO

. Until the underlying issues in the game's placement
permissions are resolved, we will not be deleting these houses. However, we
do plan on addressing these issues in the near future, and once they are
resolved, houses that do not adhere to the House Placement Rules may become
subject to deletion. We encourage the owners of these houses to re-deed them
as soon as possible to avoid losing their house. There will be additional
announcements prior to any house being deleted. In addition, we currently do
not plan on deleting houses placed before the original house patch of
December 1998.  Until all of this is added to UO, Game Masters are not given
permission to remove houses in locations that do not adhere to the placement
guidelines unless the house is over an interest point in the game.
As for scamming, each situation is different.  If you are scammed and report
it immediately to the GM that is online, they will investigate and, if the
evidence is available, will make a bust and try their best to return the
gold or items you were scammed out of.  However, there are some cases where
the GM can not access the gold if the player who scammed it got rid of it
right after the fact.  In these cases, the GM is not allowed to create the
gold for you (they can only give you back what is found on the scammer.)  As
for what we do, penalties to ensue if one is found scamming others.  The
exact nature of the  penalty is based on the situation and the individual
and I can not discuss what actions we take against other accounts.  As for
what the GM told you, I do not know.  What GM stated that they would be
returning the gold?  If you know, we might be able to ask them and find out
exactly what happened.
Thank you,
GM Genaro
ecco la mia LETTERA ALLA ORIGIN :
I have been an HONEST player for 10 months now but a series of WEIRD things
are convincing me
to give up playing....
1)The last but probably worst thing happened lately was that my Black dye
tub TURNED GREEN!!!!
 My house is private , the black dye tub is locked down on the ground and
the door was locked!!!
I made no friends to the house . NOBODY ENTERED!
I played till 4 A.M.(central european time) of january 17th and logged on
again 8 hours later when I saw
that my black dye tub had turned green!!!! UNEXPLAINABLE
No GM came!!!!
2)Last week i was buying an item from a character called "Walking Forge" , a
close friend of mine .
The cost of the item was 82.000 gold pieces . I put the gold into a backpack
and then dragged it from bank
on him , he put the item on trade window too . UNLUCKILY I LOST CONN in that
exact moment .
When i logged on again , MY BACKPACK with the money inside was gone!!! It
wasn't in my bankbox or in my
backpack and it wasn't on the ground . My friend was still waiting for money
. You could say that the
HEAVY BACKPACK could have fallen on ground and that somebody  could have
grabbed it .....
BUT we were in Magincia and nobody was there ...NOBODY!!! My money simply
vanished!!!
No GM came!!!!
3)Last week , I and a guildmate  found the MOST IRREGULARLY PLACED TOWER we
had ever seen!!! It is placed ( with some exploit i think?) just outside
Skara Brae  on east
, near the brown fields .
 ...well ...anybody can walk UNDER IT , and the worst part is that It is
built OVER MANY TREES .
Then the ground is not  flat at all !!!!
We called Gms and consellors but once again they DID NOTHING !!! I FOUND
THIS COMPLETELY UNFAIR because people try for months to place towers ....
and suddenly you find things like these :(((((
IT IS UNFAIR ...what's worst is that the tower is completely furnished and
not empty at all!!! ...so the owner
must think to be a)very smart  OR b) very lucky ...
WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER TO DO ABOUT THIS MATTER???
4)The following story comes from 6 months ago but I want to to report it
because I think the way GMs dealt with was not completely fair towards me.
Briefly ....I was scammed by a character called SAILORMOON who , while
hidden beside his vendor , changed the price of an item to the amount of
50.000
gold in the exact moment i was buying the item .
When I got back to bank i realized the SCAM and called GMs . One came and I
explained the scam .
He went to contact the scammer and came back to me . The GM told me that the
scammer had confessed
and that I would have had my money back for sure . He told me to wait and to
call him again next day .
The day later , I contacted GMs who told me that the scammer had been jailed
for 1 day for having used
some kind of irregularity.....BUT he told me I would not have gotten my
money back....
So may I ask you ...."why I didn' t get money back in that circumstance if
the scammer was jailed
and the "crime" condemned?" ....If he wasn't punished...I would have
accepted to lose 50k.....but since
he confessed and since he was "declared guilty " by Gms....what is the
reason that pushed you from
repaying me?
5)Since I see many people scamming with the trick of the heavy backpack...
(You know what I mean)...
   I would like to know if they risk any kind of consequence...BAN? JAIL?
.......Is SCAMMING in the
   game considered a way of living like any other? ... Is it considered
cheating? is it an exploit?
   [IRONIC MODE ON] ....I lost $$$$$ gold in these scams/bugs and all these
people are still around...
CIAO A TUTTI FEDERIK IL BELLO

 detect any who are hidden in the house
A parte tutte le considerazioni e la solidarieta' a Federik, questa proprio
non la sapevo!
Arathorn of Europe [TLA]

 gold in the exact moment i was buying the item .
[cut]
Purtroppo sei uno di quelli che ci e' capitato dentro. Adesso 
fortunatamente non e' piu' possibile.
Nonostante tu abbia il sacrosanto diritto di essere nero dalla rabbia, 
prova pero' a metterti nei panni della Origin. Se cominciasse a 
restituire i soldi alla gente entrerebbe in un circolo vizioso, per cui 
qualsiasi furbetto comincerebbe a denunciare furti a destra e a sinistra, 
solo per farsi dei soldi.
In effetti il tuo episodio e' un pochino diverso, visto che il furbo ha 
confessato, ma non e' che cambi moltissimo. Se nel frattempo lui i soldi 
li ha spesi come fanno a ridarteli? Se te li dessero di tasca loro a quel 
punto ci si potrebbe mettere d'accordo e inventare un furto con un amico, 
lui si dichiara colpevole, tu diventi ricco e gli dai la sua parte.
Che dire, hai ragione, sei stato fregato, ma probabilmente se tu fossi la 
Origin ti comporteresti allo stesso modo (almeno io farei cosi').
Ciao
-- 
Marco Ridolfo aka SuperCiuk
SuperCiuk on Europa UO Shard
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