Newsgroup: it.comp.os.linux.iniziare
Titolo: Oggetto: [RAD HAT 6.2] Configurazione X

Salve,
Il mio Monitor: NEC MultiSync M700
Scheda Video: S3 Trio 3D
Entrambi sono presenti nella lista di monitor e schede supportate dei tool
XF86Setup e XConfigurator.
Nonostante questo ed avendo provato anche ad editare a mano il file
XF86Config non sono riuscito ad avere una risoluzione ed una profondità di
colore soddisfacenti, ho seguito molti post su questo NG e su Deja, ho letto
le pagine man e altra documentazione trovata on line, ma non ce l'ho proprio
fatta (vi giuro che ci ho messo tutto l'impegno).
Ora chiedo se qualcuno è così gentile da aiutarmi in maniera più "diretta",
magari attraverso l' e-mail.
In pratica vorrei arrivare ad avere una risoluzione di 1024x768 e magari
anche 800x600 e almeno una profondità di 16 bit. Di seguito copio una parte
del mio file XF86Config attuale (generato con XConfigurator)
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# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************
# Any number of monitor sections may be present
Section "Monitor"
    Identifier  "NEC MultiSync M700"
    VendorName  "Unknown"
    ModelName   "Unknown"
# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
    HorizSync   30.0-69.0
# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY.  REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
    VertRefresh 55.0-120.0
# Modes can be specified in two formats.  A compact one-line format, or
# a multi-line format.
# These two are equivalent
#    ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace
#    Mode "1024x768i"
#        DotClock 45
#        HTimings 1024 1048 1208 1264
#        VTimings 768 776 784 817
#        Flags  "Interlace"
#    EndMode
# This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor spec
# are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and
# VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to
# delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your
# monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor
# and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically
# used.
# 640x400 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x400"     25.175 640  664  760  800   400  409  411  450
# 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x480"     25.175 640  664  760  800   480  491  493  525
# 800x600 @ 56 Hz, 35.15 kHz hsync
ModeLine "800x600"     36     800  824  896 1024   600  601  603  625
# 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 35.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768"    44.9  1024 1048 1208 1264   768  776  784  817
Interlace
# 640x400 @ 85 Hz, 37.86 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x400"     31.5   640  672 736   832   400  401  404  445 -HSync
+VSync
# 640x480 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x480"     31.5   640  680  720  864   480  488  491  521
# 640x480 @ 75 Hz, 37.50 kHz hsync
ModeLine  "640x480"    31.5   640  656  720  840   480  481  484
 500 -HSync -VSync
# 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
Modeline "800x600"     40     800  840  968 1056   600  601  605  628 +hsync
+vsync
# 640x480 @ 85 Hz, 43.27 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x480"     36     640  696  752  832   480  481  484
 509 -HSync -VSync
# 1152x864 @ 89 Hz interlaced, 44 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1152x864"    65    1152 1168 1384 1480   864  865  875  985
Interlace
# 800x600 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
Modeline "800x600"     50     800  856  976 1040   600  637  643  666 +hsync
+vsync
# 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 48.4 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768"    65    1024 1032 1176 1344   768  771  777
 806 -hsync -vsync
# 640x480 @ 100 Hz, 53.01 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x480"     45.8   640  672  768  864   480  488  494
 530 -HSync -VSync
# 1152x864 @ 60 Hz, 53.5 kHz hsync
Modeline  "1152x864"   89.9  1152 1216 1472 1680   864  868  876
 892 -HSync -VSync
# 800x600 @ 85 Hz, 55.84 kHz hsync
Modeline  "800x600"    60.75  800  864  928 1088   600  616  621
 657 -HSync -VSync
# 1024x768 @ 70 Hz, 56.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768"    75    1024 1048 1184 1328   768  771  777
 806 -hsync -vsync
# 1280x1024 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 51 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024"   80    1280 1296 1512 1568  1024 1025 1037 1165
Interlace
# 800x600 @ 100 Hz, 64.02 kHz hsync
Modeline  "800x600"    69.65  800  864  928 1088   600  604  610
 640 -HSync -VSync
# 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768"    85    1024 1032 1152 1360   768  784  787  823
# 1152x864 @ 70 Hz, 62.4 kHz hsync
Modeline  "1152x864"   92    1152 1208 1368 1474   864  865  875  895
# 1280x1024 @ 61 Hz, 64.2 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024"  110    1280 1328 1512 1712  1024 1025 1028 1054
# 1024x768 @ 85 Hz, 70.24 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768"   98.9  1024 1056 1216 1408   768 782 788
822 -HSync -VSync
# 1152x864 @ 78 Hz, 70.8 kHz hsync
Modeline "1152x864"   110   1152 1240 1324 1552   864  864  876  908
# 1280x1024 @ 70 Hz, 74.59 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024"  126.5 1280 1312 1472 1696  1024 1032 1040
1068 -HSync -VSync
# 1600x1200 @ 60Hz, 75.00 kHz hsync
Modeline "1600x1200"  162   1600 1664 1856 2160  1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync
+VSync
# 1152x864 @ 84 Hz, 76.0 kHz hsync
Modeline "1152x864"   135    1152 1464 1592 1776   864  864  876  908
# 1280x1024 @ 74 Hz, 78.85 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024"  135    1280 1312 1456 1712  1024 1027 1030 1064
# 1024x768 @ 100Hz, 80.21 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768"   115.5  1024 1056 1248 1440  768  771  781
 802 -HSync -VSync
# 1280x1024 @ 76 Hz, 81.13 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024"  135    1280 1312 1416 1664  1024 1027 1030 1064
# 1600x1200 @ 70 Hz, 87.50 kHz hsync
Modeline "1600x1200"  189    1600 1664 1856 2160  1200 1201 1204
1250 -HSync -VSync
# 1152x864 @ 100 Hz, 89.62 kHz hsync
Modeline "1152x864"   137.65 1152 1184 1312 1536   864  866  885
 902 -HSync -VSync
# 1280x1024 @ 85 Hz, 91.15 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024"  157.5  1280 1344 1504 1728  1024 1025 1028 1072 +HSync
+VSync
# 1600x1200 @ 75 Hz, 93.75 kHz hsync
Modeline "1600x1200"  202.5  1600 1664 1856 2160  1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync
+VSync
# 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz, 105.77 kHz hsync
Modeline "1600x1200"  220    1600 1616 1808 2080  1200 1204 1207 1244 +HSync
+VSync
# 1280x1024 @ 100 Hz, 107.16 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024"  181.75 1280 1312 1440 1696  1024 1031 1046
1072 -HSync -VSync
# 1800x1440 @ 64Hz, 96.15 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1800X1440"  230    1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync
+VSync
# 1800x1440 @ 70Hz, 104.52 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1800X1440"  250    1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync
+VSync
# 512x384 @ 78 Hz, 31.50 kHz hsync
Modeline "512x384"    20.160 512  528  592  640   384  385  388
 404 -HSync -VSync
# 512x384 @ 85 Hz, 34.38 kHz hsync
Modeline "512x384"    22     512  528  592  640   384  385  388
 404 -HSync -VSync
# Low-res Doublescan modes
# If your chipset does not support doublescan, you get a 'squashed'
# resolution like 320x400.
# 320x200 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio
Modeline "320x200"     12.588 320  336  384  400   200  204  205  225
Doublescan
# 320x240 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio
Modeline "320x240"     12.588 320  336  384  400   240  245  246  262
Doublescan
# 320x240 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "320x240"     15.750 320  336  384  400   240  244  246  262
Doublescan
# 400x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio
ModeLine "400x300"     18     400  416  448  512   300  301  302  312
Doublescan
# 400x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
Modeline "400x300"     20     400  416  480  528   300  301  303  314
Doublescan
# 400x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
Modeline "400x300"     25     400  424  488  520   300  319  322  333
Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio
ModeLine "480x300"     21.656 480  496  536  616   300  301  302  312
Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
Modeline "480x300"     23.890 480  496  576  632   300  301  303  314
Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 63 Hz, 39.6 kHz hsync
Modeline "480x300"     25     480  496  576  632   300  301  303  314
Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
Modeline "480x300"     29.952 480  504  584  624   300  319  322  333
Doublescan
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************
# Any number of graphics device sections may be present
Section "Device"
    Identifier        "Generic VGA"
    VendorName        "Unknown"
    BoardName "Unknown"
    Chipset   "generic"
#    VideoRam 256
#    Clocks   25.2 28.3
EndSection
# Device configured by Xconfigurator:
Section "Device"
    Identifier  "My Video Card"
    VendorName  "Unknown"
    BoardName   "Unknown"
    #VideoRam    4096
    # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************
# The Colour SVGA server
Section "Screen"
    Driver      "svga"
    # Use Device "Generic VGA" for Standard VGA 320x200x256
    #Device      "Generic VGA"
    Device      "My Video Card"
    Monitor     "NEC MultiSync M700"
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection
# The 16-color VGA server
Section "Screen"
    Driver      "vga16"
    Device      "Generic VGA"
    Monitor     "NEC MultiSync M700"
    Subsection "Display"
        Modes       "640x480" "800x600"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection
# The Mono server
Section "Screen"
    Driver      "vga2"
    Device      "Generic VGA"
    Monitor     "NEC MultiSync M700"
    Subsection "Display"
        Modes       "640x480" "800x600"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection
# The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64
# I128, and S3V)
Section "Screen"
    Driver      "accel"
    Device      "My Video Card"
    Monitor     "NEC MultiSync M700"
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection
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Mi spiace di dover implorare aiuto in questa maniera poco ortodossa ma le ho
provate davvero tutte.....  e sto cominciando a sentirmi un poco stupido.
Ringrazio anticipatamente chiunque mi vorrà aiutare, so che è un "problema
stupido"......e per questo sono molto grato a chiunque mi dedicherà del
tempo.
Felice anno.
Alessandro
---->  
skyh...@tiscalinet.it

Questi problemi non sono affatto stupidi, la configurazione
di X e` complicata di suo, e Xconfigurator scazza... basta una
combinazione di scheda+monitor un po' sfigata e iniziano le fatiche, mi
ci sono trovato anch'io un paio di volte.
Non sapendomi creare le modelines a mano, l'unico modo e` affidarsi a
Xconfigurator per quelle, e ritoccare a mano il resto...
Intanto affidiamoci al server generico, quindi controlla che /etc/X11/X
sia un link a /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA.
Poi pialla quel pasticcio di prima e metti quello qua sotto (che e`
_quasi_ identico e senza robaccia inutile).
Poi controlla con "X -version" quale server e` effettivamente in uso, e
guarda nell'elenco delle schede supportate (sempre nell'output di "X
-version") se c'e` la tua.
Se sta usando l'SVGA e c'e` la Trio3D nell'elenco, prova a lanciare
startx e incrocia le dita... (se non va, sono molto probabilmente le
modelines scazzate, quindi sotto con Xconfigurator di nuovo...).
Se sta usando l'SVGA ma NON c'e` la scheda nell'elenco, cambia il link
/etc/X11/X, che deve puntare al server specifico delle S3 (non so come
si chiama, e` in /usr/X11R6/bin, probabilmente `XF86_qualcosa') e poi
pialla via la sezione del server svga dalla sezione Screen del file di
configurazione. E prova startx...
Se invece non sta usando l'SVGA, non va bene... prova a ripetere
Xconfigurator dicendogli che la scheda e` "non supportata / non in
elenco" (dovrebbe essere l'ultima che c'e`), dopo ti chiedera` quale
server vuoi usare e puoi scegliere l'svga.
# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************
Section "Monitor"
    Identifier  "NEC MultiSync M700"
    VendorName  "NEC"
    ModelName   "M700"
    HorizSync   30.0-69.0
    VertRefresh 55.0-120.0
# 640x480 @ 85 Hz, 43.27 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x480"     36     640  696  752  832   480  481  484 509 -HSync -VSync
# 800x600 @ 85 Hz, 55.84 kHz hsync
Modeline  "800x600"    60.75  800  864  928 1088   600  616  621 657 -HSync -VSync
# 1024x768 @ 85 Hz, 70.24 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768"   98.9  1024 1056 1216 1408   768 782 788 822 -HSync -VSync
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************
Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Trio3D"
    VendorName  "S3"
    BoardName   "Trio 3D"
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************
# server svga generico
Section "Screen"
    Driver      "svga"
    Device      "Trio3D"
    Monitor     "NEC MultiSync M700"
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "1024x768" "640x480" "800x600"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection
# The accelerated servers
Section "Screen"
    Driver      "accel"
    Device      "Trio3D"
    Monitor     "NEC MultiSync M700"
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "1024x768" "640x480" "800x600"
        ViewPort    0 0
    EndSubsection
EndSection
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    Pardo 
 
www.pardo.cjb.net

 configurazione. E prova startx...
Questo è il mio caso.. ho fatto tutto come da te indicato ma mi viene
restituito questo errore quando provo startx.:
Config Error: /usr/X11R6/Lib/X11/XF86Config  :158
Section "Monitor"
                             ^^
Monitor section keyword expected
X connection to :0.0 broken..........
Dove ho sbagliato??
Grazie
Ale


c'e` uno stupido errore di sintassi nell'XF86Config, guarda alla linea
158!
monitor section keyword expected!
-- 
    Pardo 
 
www.pardo.cjb.net

 --
Sarò completamente fuso ma non riesco a trovare cosa cavolo manca, posto la
parte di file incriminata..... comunque ho cambiato il link simbolico e ho
tolto il riferimento al server VGA generico da section screen
#**********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# ******************************************************************
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "NEC MultiSync M700"
VendorName "NEC"
ModelName "M700"
HorizSync 30.0-69.0
VertRefresh 55.0-120.0
# 640x480 @ 85 Hz, 43.27 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x480" 36 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -HSync -VSync
# 800x600 @ 85 Hz, 55.84 kHz hsync
Modeline "800x600" 60.75 800 864 928 1088 600 616 621 657 -HSync -VSync
# 1024x768 @ 85 Hz, 70.24 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768" 98.9 1024 1056 1216 1408 768 782 788 822 -HSync -VSync
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************
Section "Device"
Identifier "Trio3D"
VendorName "S3"
BoardName "Trio 3D"
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************
# The accelerated servers
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