Newsgroup: it.news.net-abuse
Titolo: media : Spamhaus appeals possible shutdown ruling

visto che se ne era parlato qui, vediamo di postare un po' di news 
fresche...
17/10/2006
http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1088130140;fp;4194304;fpid;1
Spamhaus has told a U.S. court that it will appeal a recent decision that
threatened to shut it down.
The Spamhaus Project has told a U.S. court that it plans to appeal a recent
ruling that threatened the volunteer organization with millions of dollars
in legal fines and a possible shutdown of database of known spammers.
The notice was filed Friday in the U.S. District Court for the Northern
District of Illinois by lawyers with Jenner & Block, a Chicago law firm
that is now representing Spamhaus.
Spamhaus, based in the U.K., has a team of 25 investigators and claims to
block between eight billion and ten billion e-mail messages per day. Its
database is used by several major security vendors, including Microsoft.
The filing marks the group's return to a legal fight against an e-mail
marketing company called e360 Insight that Spamhaus had tried its best to
ignore.
Spamhaus had not shown up in court to dispute the charges against it, and
the organization has made it clear that it does not accept U.S.
jurisdiction over its activities. However, this position was apparently
reconsidered after a proposed court order was published earlier this month
calling on the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
and Spamhaus's registrar, Tucows, to pull the project's domain name.
"Spamhaus is... concerned at how far a U.S. court will go before asking
itself if it has jurisdiction, and is intending to contest the ruling in
order to stamp out further attempts by spammers to abuse the U.S. court
system in this way," the organization said in a statement on its Web site.
That statement can be found here.
The order, written by the plaintiffs in the case, does not have the force
of law, but if the judge decides to accept it, observers said that it could
kick off a power struggle between ICANN, which is responsible for the
Internet's domain name system, and the U.S. courts.
Spamhaus's new legal counsel, Jenner & Block, is a well-respected firm with
over 400 lawyers.
It has offered its services in the case for free, said John Reid, a
Spamhaus volunteer. "We are a nonprofit organization; spammers know this.
That's why they sue, hoping we cannot afford to defend ourselves," Reid
said. "Luckily, since we're the good guys, there are a lot of great
lawyers, law firms, and law professors around the world willing to step up
and help."
"We were asked to provide support by a number of folks with whom we've been
associated in the past," said Matthew Neumeier, a partner with Jenner &
Block. He declined to say who had asked the firm to help out in the case.
E360 Insight could not be reached immediately for comment on this story. In
a statement on its Web site, the e-mail marketer cited Spamhaus's earlier
decision to walk away from the case as evidence that it "could not produce
its justification for the listing of e360 on its blacklists."

 Block. He declined to say who had asked the firm to help out in the case.
Già già, adesso decisamente si inizia a ridere...

 itself if it has jurisdiction, and is intending to contest the ruling in
order to
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E poi c'è chi si chiede ancora perchè esistono networks come questa
http://european.ch.orsn.net/about.php
considerando che Paul Vixie (goggle aiuta) è entrato a far parte di ORSN
e visto che in caso di "blackout" arbitrario di spamhaus ci sarà da
discutere
e NON poco ... credo ci sia abbastanza materiale per riflettere  :-)

considerando che Paul Vixie (goggle aiuta) è entrato a far parte di ORSN
Dichiarando contemporaneamente che non è interessato ad usarlo.
Se 
spamhaus.org
 venisse sospeso con ORSN ti ci potresti fare solo delle
gran pippe (come ora, insomma).
-- 
ciao, |
Marco |  The Italian Usenet Cabal, Abuse Department (TINC)
"It's about damn time that all of us who actually give a damn about Usenet
stand up and tell the people who don't to fuck off and die." -- Russ Allbery

 gran pippe (come ora, insomma).
Perché non si approfitta dell'occasione per usarlo bene ?
Tempo fa avevo postato una richiesta di suggerimento sull'usare o meno
quei root server al posto di quelli classici, ma non ho avuto risposte
chiare ed esaurienti.
Quindi, usare ORSN è bene? è male? è inutile?
Gabriele

> Quindi, usare ORSN è bene? è male? è inutile?
Ah beh .. se lo chiedi a qualcuno che tiene in piedi
uno dei root-servers ICANN e che quindi "detiene
il potere" (sic) sicuramente ti dirà che ORSN è male
però potresti provare anche a sentire qualche altra
campana, visto e considerato che ICANN non è
la sola root-network esistente e che oltre ad ORSN
esistono anche ALTRE root networks alternative
ciao

 solo delle gran pippe (come ora, insomma).
questo resta da vedere
Ciao

Quindi, usare ORSN è bene? è male? è inutile?
Al momento è inutile, nel migliore dei casi.
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