Newsgroup: it.arti.musica.strumenti.chitarra
Titolo: Re: Problema scorrevolezza manico LP

 Qualche idea su come limitare questa spiacevole situazione?
Purtroppo � la vernice alla nitro che a differenza delle Fender
(poliestere) si impasta subito di sporco.
Rimedi: foulard a portata di mano  e strofinare tra un brano e l'altro.
Eventialmente con una spruzzata di Dunlop 65 (ogni tanto).
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 "appiccica".
prima di fare la cosa estrema, ma praticata da alcuni pro, di togliere
proprio la vernice dal manico, potresti provare il "Guitar Polish"
della Gibson che funziona abbastanza bene per pulire e rendere
scivolose le superfici verniciate.
D.

 
metti un po di borotalco sulla mano sinistra.
smetterei di applicare fast fret, ma fare solo delle pulizie regolari 
delle corde con un panno. Ho notato che i residui dei vari "pozioni 
magiche" peggiorano la situazione alla lunga.
m.

 invasivo?
dopo ogni suonata pulisco le corde con un panno imbevuto di alcol...
toglie tutto il sudiciume.
Un mese fa ho messo le Ernie Ball RPS e con questo sistema ho gia'
fatto 3 date e 2 prove senza dover cambiare le corde... penso che
resisteranno un altro concerto.
un'ottima media per i miei standard di consumo corde.
per la sudorazione ti posso solo dire di mangiare meno carne rossa e
zuccheri.. ;-)
D.

 zuccheri.. ;-)
ho trovato anche questi consigli... capisci l'inglese , no? ;-)
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Things to Avoid:
Garlic – I give all you Italian food lovers out there my condolences.
I used to LOVE eating linguini with white clam sauce.  Of course an
hour after the meal, my palms, face and shirt would explode with sweat
bombs.  It took a while before I put two and two together but after a
little research I came up with the reason.
I’m going to get pretty fancy here with my medical explanation.
Ready? 
Garlic's strong smelling sulfur compounds are metabolized, forming
allyl methyl sulfide. Allyl methyl sulfide (AMS) cannot be digested
and is passed into the blood.  From there, it’s carried to the lungs
and the skin, where it is excreted.
Your body throws the garlic waste out your skin and breath – hence
“garlic  breath”.  This is like putting your hyperhidrosis on steroids
with the bonus of body odor.   Not so good.
Onions – Depending on the strength of the onions you’re eating, you
may sweat a lot or just a little.  No matter what though – you’ll
sweat!  The pungency of onions has a heating effect that increases
your circulation.  This is what raises body temperature and causes
sweating.  This effect is actually helpful in lowering fevers and
sweating out colds and flu. For you, however, it’ll just feed the
flame. Curve your onion eating until you get a grip on your sweating
problem through other means.
Caffeine – It’s found in coffee, tea, cola drinks, energy drinks,
cocoa and chocolate, nonprescription drugs and prescription drugs,
weight-control aids, and a variety of other commonly consumed items.
Tea is the ONLY exception to this rule and I’ll get to that in a bit.
Other than tea, stay away for a while.
The link between caffeine and your sweating is probably obvious to you
already.  It’s  a stimulant, raising blood pressure, increasing
circulation and heartbeat.  Your body is a machine, running at a
constant 98.6 degrees.  Speed up the parts and you’ll heat up the
machine.
Your morning coffee is enough to raise your internal body temperature
and dampen your shirt in no time. I know it might be tough for some of
you coffee drinkers and soda addicts out there, but try to cut out the
caffeine at least for a little while.
Spicy Foods – Peppers and spicy dishes are blatant offenders.  They
cause increased sweating by speeding up your metabolism (much like
caffeine).  Do yourself a favor and cut them out as well. Chances are,
if you suffer from hyperhidrosis, you’re already aware of the effect
hot wings have on your underarms. Yikes!
Alcohol – This is a HUGE No No.  Let me just say one quick thing about
drinking with hyperhidrosis.  When my sweaty hands were at their
worst, I actually found drinking a few beers to be helpful.  When I’d
drink a little, my hands actually seemed to dry up.  I attributed this
to the alcohol relaxing me and helping my anxiety induced
perspiration.  Turned out I was VERY WRONG.
Alcohol dehydrates your body at first.  That’s why you find yourself
going to the bathroom so much when you drink.  Your body is flushing
out all of its fluids.  However, this is only the first stage.  After
that, your body temperature begins to climb causing the acceleration
of fluids to be flushed from your sweat pores as well.
Now, let’s talk about what you SHOULD be eating and drinking…
Things to Consume:
Drink Plenty of Water – So many people get confused by this advice.
They think if they drink more water, they’ll have that much more to
sweat out.  Actually, drinking lots of cool water will lower your
internal body temperature, keeping the sweat at bay.  I recommend at
least 8 big glasses of water a day.  Others suggest even more.  I know
this advice might be hard to swallow (yes pun intended – sorry :) .
The thought of trading your excessive sweating problem for a case of
persistent urination isn’t ideal.  However, you’ll need to compromise
a few extra bathroom breaks to manage your hyperhidrosis.
Sage Tea – Sage Tea contains very high levels of tannic acid ( a
natural astringent).  By drinking tea, even hot tea, you’ll fill your
body with this natural antiperspirant and prevent sweating from the
inside out.  It’s a systemic approach towards controlling
hyperhidrosis.  I will say, however, you’ll want to drink about two
cups a day for at least a week to start reaping the benefits.  Try it
out.
Fruits – They’ll help you stop sweating AND they’re incredibly
healthy.  It’s a win-win.  Fruits contain about 80% water.  This
attributes to their cooling effect.  Get a healthy amount of fruit
everyday (I’m a green apple maniac myself) and feel the results fast.
I recommend at least 4 servings of fruit every day.
Olive Oil – Your body requires almost no effort to digest olive oil
and this is where the power lies.  By substituting olive oil in your
diet, you’ll be using your digest system more efficiently allowing it
to create less heat in your body.  Additionally, olive oil is a
healthy fat that lowers cholesterol AND blood pressure.  These two
factors will also cut down on your sweating.
Whole Grains – Trade your normal white bread intake for whole grain
bread.  By cutting down on your processed sugar, you’ll lose weight
which can help quite a bit.  But that’s not the real secret of whole
grains.  They contain loads of B Vitamins which allow your body to
function more efficiently, requiring less effort.  Less effort means
less heat and less heat means less sweating for you.
Other foods that are jam packed with B Vitamins include proteins
(fish, eggs, meat, and nuts) and vegetables (avocados, peas, sweet
potatoes, carrots).
Calcium – It’s easy enough to integrate into your daily eating
regimen.  Besides, calcium intake is crucial.  You should really be
doing this already.  Get plenty of orange juice, milk, yogurt, light
cheese, beans and spinach to ensure you’re filling up on your required
intake.
Calcium helps hyperhidrosis by helping your body cope with stress and
nervousness.  It’s no surprise that these two emotions are heavily
linked with anxiety induced perspiration.
Fill up on calcium to cut down on sweat.
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ecco... sai cosa fare se devi andare a suonare. ;-)
D.

 Come cazzo avra' fatto Keith Richards? :-)))
Se ne fotteva. ;-)
D.

 "appiccica".
In passato ho consigliato un prodotto per mobili che io ho utilizzato per il 
manico della mia 335 con risultati soddisfacenti, tutti quelli a cui l'ho 
consigliato mi hanno confermato che in effetti � efficace, si chiama 
Mangiapolvere Sutter (solo la versione classic, le altre non sono egualmente 
valide), asporta tutto lo spoco lasciando la superficie estremamente 
scorrevole con una gradevole profumazione. Non posso garantirti che con te 
funzioni dato che non conosco l'entit� della tua sudorazione ma provare non 
costa niente (al limite lo ricicla tua moglie per la casa)...
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http://web.tiscali.it/domingojazz
Non autorizzo Sonicbands a pubblicare il presente post nei suoi forum

 
sinceramente, ho smesso di usare qualsiasi additivo. Suonando la 
chitarra, essa si pulisce  e lubrifica da sola.
I residui della roba tipo fast fret rendono appiccicoso il legno della 
tastiera.
m
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 Qualche idea su come limitare questa spiacevole situazione?
Pronto Legno Vivo, assolutamente versione Crema: sulla tastiera, una volta 
tanto per pulirla e dietro al manico quando vuoi.
A me funziona
:)

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ASSOLUTAMENTE SI !!! 

 toglie tutto il sudiciume.
isopropilico, pero'.
quello "rosa" lascia troppi residui.
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 quello "rosa" lascia troppi residui.
mai notato questa cosa... do una bella strofinata ad ogni corda e non
rimane niente.
D.

 "appiccica".
ne parlavo proprio pochi giorni fa, riguardo al Lp di un mio amico, con 
sergio tomassone, il quale mi dice essere colpa del catalizzatore delle 
vernici. Consigliava di tenerla sempre ben pulita con del semplice "pronto 
legno". Poi non ho chiesto se ha ottenuto dei buoni risultati, cmq 
sicuramente i cleaner appositi per chitarra funzionano poco. 

 :)
Confermo anche io. Pronto Legno Vivo funge perfettamente e il manico 
sguiscia che � un piacere.
Noiz. 


Ho una les paul standard limited ed . e ho il tuo stesso problema, � 
un'allergia alla vernice alla nitro col sudore scatenato si impasta e forma 
quello "Sporco"
il l'ho risolta su consiglio del liutaio spolverando le mani col borotalco.
Saluti, Gianpietro 

 rimane niente.
prova a pulire un circuito stampato con l'alcool rosa e poi mi dirai :-)
l'isopropilico evapora tutto e le corde durano di piu', se ti capita prova.
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