Newsgroup: it.comp.hardware.motherboard
Titolo: ASUS P3V4X

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 dell'hard disk.
Con il filo bianco o nero sempre sulla massa o segnale indicato come 
negativo.
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 Chi lo sa... batta un colpo!
Non ci capisco piu' niente...tu mi hai detto che hai un p 3 500 a 2v e 
quindi slot 1.
Ho provato a staccare tutti gli hard disk e cd-rom, ma niente non parte.
A questo punto ho messo il p2 400 slot 1 ed e' partito.
Ho rimesso il p3 600 e niente da fare...
A questo punto concludo che e' la riduzione o la scheda madre bacata, 
piu' precisamente un condensatore che da spento non essendo carico non 
parte, alla prima accensione si carica e con il reset od una riaccensione 
dopo poco tempo riesce e tenere la carica e quindi parte.
Che questo condesatore sia sulla scheda madre o sulla riduzione non so; 
spero sulla riduzione cosi' la cambio, ma se tu mi dici che lavori senza, 
come detto non so nenach'io cosa pensare...
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 incompatibilita' di qualcosa.
Potresti darci il resto della tua configurazione cosi' faccio dei 
confronti? 
Grazie. 
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 Ho rimesso il p3 600 e niente da fare...
come volevasi dimostrare, ho risprovato a distanza di tempo ed anche con 
il p2 400 slot 1 non e' partito; ho rimesso il p3 600 ed e' partito 
subito... mha...a questo punto escluderei la riduzione...
Se puo' essere utile ho notato che la tensione del p3 600 e' sempre tra 
1,68 e 1,7 volt e che durante il boot nella schermata di riepilogo alla 
sb live non viene assegnato nessun irq, in windows va comunque alla 
perfezione e non condivide l'irq con nient'altro.
TRa le altre cose la sb live e' l'unica periferica che ho in comune con 
"sdc"...
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Guardate cosa ho trovato su un forum dedicato alla p3v4x
Se qualcuno riesce a tradurre bene...
I just got this motherboard a few days ago, and have been hacking around 
with it since then trying to get it to work.
However, most of the time it takes several reboots before the thing will 
finally post, before that, I simple get a blank screen, no beep codes.
My config is:
Pentium III 800EB (Slot 1)
512 meg (2 256 sticks) Crucial PC133 RAM
Toshiba 5x SCSI DVD-ROM
IBM 18.3 GB Ultra160 SCSI LVD HD
LS-120 Superdisk
Zip 100 SCSI
SB Live! Value
Hercules 3D Prophet II 64-meg GeForce II
I've got a known-good 300 watt power supply, the 1005 BIOS, I've set the 
3.3-to-3.6 I/O jumper, I've tried this both in jumper and jumperfree 
modes, I've tried over- and under-clocking the FSB (Currently set to 
default 133), I've even gone out and gotten insulated standoffs for the 
motherboard to sit on. Nothing seems to work, except cycling the power a 
couple dozen times.
Please, does anyone have any other ideas? I'm stumped!
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Peedoc
unregistered   posted 26 June 2000 11:38 AM               
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I've had the same problem since I got my mobo a week ago. On powerup, the 
lights would come on, the hard drives start spinning, but then nothing, 
just a blank screen, no beeps. Even cycling it a few times would usually 
not help. It would then post when I open up the case and fiddle around 
with the RAM (taking them out and setting them back in, but in different 
slots). I noticed that the last time it wouldn't post, I jiggled around 
the keyboard and mouse connections to the motherboard and it immediated 
booted up after that. Maybe there's a problem when the comp doesn't 
detect them and refuses to post.
This seems to be a problem with quite a few mobos, judging from previous 
messages. I'm not sure what to do; i've already tried insulating the mobo 
from the case using electrical tape. 
My specs:
400mhz celeron, o/c to 570mhz
p3v4x mobo, rev 1.02, bios 1.005
ATI rage pro 128 with fan
Aureal vortex sound card, Altec Lansing spkrs
SMZ 10/100 network card
15gb maxtor drive
15gb quantum fireball 
OEM CD rom
RICOH CD-RW,DVD-ROM, MP9060A
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crusher
Member 
Posts: 8
From:garden grove, Ca. usa
Registered: Jun 2000 
  posted 26 June 2000 02:15 PM                 
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I've had the same problem since day one.Asus tries to tell me it's the 
slotket. Creeperman
says he's got a slot one with the same problem. The way I get mine to 
boot is to use the reset button. Then once in awhile it
posts the way it should. Ripper thinks it could be a monitor problem (epa 
stuff).
I think we just got bad boards. Here's my specs.
P3v4x bios 1005 , 5.16drc2 ,4.17 or 4.22 now?
PIII 733eb flipchip w/asus s370-133 slotket
256mb crucial/micron c2
asus v7700 geforce2 gts
sound blaster live
acm game card
Whoever figures this one out is truly the
Man.
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Dave H
Member 
Posts: 161
From:Arlington, Va. USA
Registered: May 2000 
  posted 26 June 2000 02:19 PM                 
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Creeperman, you don't say anything about overclocking so I'll assume you 
are not.
Peedoc, yours might be a problem with out-of-whack system frequency. My 
machine works fine at 148 FSB; when I try 150-black screen.
So you might want to try some different BIOS settings.
Back to Creeperman-have you tried running the board out of the case with 
only the bare essentials? SCSI card, boot drive, and vid card? If it 
works like this, try it in the case with the bare essentials and then add 
things one at a time until no post. Give this a rip and let us know what 
happens.
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Are we having fun yet?
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Ripper
Member 
Posts: 153
From:Dallas, TX USA
Registered: Jun 2000 
  posted 26 June 2000 02:33 PM              
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Crusher --
Just a clarification . . .
I'm not sure what the problem is, but I suspect that it is related to VIA 
and the NVidia chipset with an EPA compliant monitor. I don't think it is 
the monitor. I have arrived at this conclusion after using 2 ABit VA6 
mobo's (133) and 1 Asus P3V4X (133A)-- all with NVidia chip-based boards 
(TNT, TNT2 and TNT2U). All experienced the same problem -- black screen 
after a cold boot with no POST code beeps. Hit the reset button and all 
is fine. In all cases I removed my NEC A700+ EPA compliant monitor and 
attached a NEC 3FGE monitor which was not EPA compliant , and they worked 
flawlessly.
It can't be the drivers, as Windows has not even begun to load, therefore 
it must be a BIOS (video or system) and VIA chipset related issue as this 
problem has occurred on ABit, Asus and even a Gigabyte 133A based board. 
All had NVidia based cards.
I agree -- whomever can figure this one out is truly THE MAN !!
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It's NOT an OBSESSION, damn it --it's just a HOBBY !! 
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TechieZero
Member 
Posts: 25
From:Tampa, Florida, USA
Registered: Jun 2000 
  posted 27 June 2000 02:31 AM              
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Yeah...I wish I was the Man.
I have a similiar problem. It sometimes does not boot cold until the 
second try. Sometimes I even get the BIOS beeps that indicate no video 
card found. However it does not matter if I use my STB4400 (TNT) or my 
Creative GeForce 2.
It seems to be very related to overclocking. If I keep my machine at 100 
MHz FSB, it has no probs. But who wants that? I suggest some sort of soft 
FSB solution here.
This is the first time i have heard it happen to a 800 Mhz CPU. I wonder 
if high CPU speeds basically throw it for a loop? In my case it is me 
making my p3-600E run at 810 MHz (135 MHz FSB).
You guys are going to luv this twist. This problem seemed to have started 
for me when I put a heatsink on my ICS chip! I almost feel like removing 
it.
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crusher
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From:garden grove, Ca. usa
Registered: Jun 2000 
  posted 27 June 2000 08:56 AM                 
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Ripper, thanks for correcting me. I totally
misunderstood you the first time.
What I have done is raised the voltage on the graphics card but still the 
same problem. Next I want to up the CPU voltage to 1.70 but I think I 
will get a better cooler first.
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Peacekeeper
unregistered   posted 27 June 2000 06:27 PM               
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Been a few posts on other boards re this. One user said to check the 
video card screw as some when tightened pull the card slightly upwards. 
The shorting screw solution might also be worth consideration.
Peace
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eggie
Member 
Posts: 107
From:san luis
Registered: May 2000 
  posted 27 June 2000 11:42 PM                 
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i noticed many of you are using the 1005 bios. i still think the 1005 
bios has mislabeled fsbs. i think most haven't noticed because they 
automatically see they have 32 again and are using the high fsb's above 
140. anyone willing to try the 1004.002 that are having post issues?
also, has anyone tried the dipswitches (other than creeperman)
creeperman: definitely suggest pulling everything out except the bare 
essentials. try another bios also. 1004.002 works very well.
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Dee
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Registered: Jun 2000 
  posted 27 June 2000 11:49 PM                 
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Hi
I had this problem with my P3V4X only it wouldn't boot at all!!!
It started from when I set my FSB to 130MHZ (using Bios 1005 so it might 
not have actually been 130). Anyway when I exited Bios it would not boot 
and never did again.
I had the board tested with a device called the 'Post Pro' which sits in 
a PCI/ISA slot and reports mboard errors via an onboard LED display.
Seems my MBoard cache had died. I am now waiting for a replacement.
Regards
Dee
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TechieZero
Member 
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From:Tampa, Florida, USA
Registered: Jun 2000 
  posted 28 June 2000 12:11 AM              
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I wonder if enabling the BIOS cache mem checks would yield similiar info. 
It could be that we all have flaky caches. I will try it when I get home 
tonight.
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Peedoc
Member 
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From:Houston, TX, USA
Registered: Jun 2000 
  posted 28 June 2000 04:27 AM                 
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After reading some of the earlier posts about the mobo grounding to the 
case, I removed the screw attaching the mobo to the case located right 
above the CMOS battery. I didn't replace it with anything, just chucked 
it. Anyway it seems to boot up fine now. Eggie, I'm not sure if bios 1005 
is the problem since I was having this problem with bios 1003 too. The 
only problem now is that I can't get the fsb past 95mhz x 6.0 without 
hanging during startup or after. But I think this is a problem with CPU 
cooling since the CPU temp gets up to 60-70 C on full load. I'm waiting 
for my golden orb . Also I wonder if the ICS chip overheating has 
anything to do with failure to post. I have a large heatsink sitting on 
my ICS right now, but may have to had a fan to it.  
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 macchina quando dovrebbe aprire l'interfaccia grafica.
Ho un problema simile su un vecchio P133 e MotherBoard Soyo. Il problema č
iniziato dopo che ho inserito una Matrox Mystique 4 MB al posto della
vetusta Cyrrus Logic.
Potrebbero essere piccoli problemi di rilevamento della scheda Video ?
Hai provato con una scheda video di altra marca ecc...
Sulla mia CUV4X e Matrox G400 nessun problema....
Saluti
Alex


PII 350
128Mb Ram
Matrox G400
HD 21Gb
Secondo me è la scheda video...

 Alex
Ho esattamente lo stesso problema, ma con la CUV4X (PIII 600EB): la
MatroxMillenniumG400 (AGP) non viene vista, il PC emette la serie di corti
beep, schermo nero e si sente che continua a ripartire. Aggiungendo una
seconda sk video PCI tutto va liscio. Cambiare slot alle altre sk non č
servito e anche toglierle tutte. Ho visto che la Matrox ballava un po' nel
suo slot. L'ho reinserita per l'n-esima volta schiacciandola giů bene e
fissandola con la vite. Tutto č andato bene ! Ho concluso che č un problema
di contatto in uno slot mal fatto. E mi č venuto in mente che la stessa cosa
me l'aveva fatta con la P3V4X: allora avevo tolto e rimesso la Matrox e
tutto filň liscio, ma non avevo capito il perché. Bisognerebbe guardare se
questi slot AGP provengono dalla stessa fabbrica, stesso lotto di
fabbricazione ecc.
Ciao
Sandro