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Titolo: Universita' Italiane vs USA

 
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/natudoc/tier1/t1natudoc_brief.php
Poi ci sono altre classifiche come quella del Times:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/TGD/picture/0,,157854,00.jpg
NON UNA SOLA UNI ITALIANA TRA LE PRIME 50 AL MONDO!
PRICELESS 


Ovvio, quando una classifica non dice quello che vuoi tu lascia il
tempo che trova, invece quando ne trovi una che conferma le tue parole
e' Vangelo.

 siano negli USA?!?!
[...]
Oh, finalmente un argomento di discussione mai toccato prima, davvero
fresco-fresco.....
Poi magari possiamo discutere di quale sia il cibo migloire e per
finire se esistano o no le edicole a chioschetto....!!! ;-)
SdV


Quello che segue l'hai scritto tu in un altro post, e siccome pare che
in texas non hai niente da fare se non stare al pc a perdere tempo
vuol dire che prendere un master in USA non e' particolarmente
complicato e lascia moooolto tempo libero.
http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2005-01-21/cols_ventura.html
No. 1?
By Michael Ventura
No concept lies more firmly embedded in our national character than
the
notion that the USA is "No. 1," "the greatest." Our broadcast media
are, in
essence, continuous advertisements for the brand name "America Is No.
1."
Any office seeker saying otherwise would be committing political
suicide. In
fact, anyone saying otherwise will be labeled "un-American." We're an
"empire," ain't we? Sure we are. An empire without a manufacturing
base. An
empire that must borrow $2 billion a day from its competitors in order
to
function. Yet the delusion is ineradicable. We're No. 1. Well ... this
is
the country you really live in:
. The United States is 49th in the world in literacy (The New York
Times,
Dec. 12, 2004).
. The United States ranked 28th out of 40 countries in mathematical
literacy
(NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).
. One-third of our science teachers and one-half of our math teachers
did
not major in those subjects. (Quoted on The West Wing, but you can
trust
it - their researchers are legendary.)
. Twenty percent of Americans think the sun orbits the Earth.
Seventeen
percent believe the Earth revolves around the sun once a day (The
Week, Jan.
7, 2005).
. "The International Adult Literacy Survey ... found that Americans
with
less than nine years of education 'score worse than virtually all of
the
other countries'" (Jeremy Rifkin's superbly documented book The
European
Dream
: How Europe's Vision of the Future Is Quietly Eclipsing the American Dream,
p.78).
. Our workers are so ignorant, and lack so many basic skills, that
American
businesses spend $30 billion a year on remedial training (NYT, Dec.
12,
2004). No wonder they relocate elsewhere!
. "The European Union leads the U.S. in ... the number of science and
engineering graduates; public research and development (R&D)
expenditures;
and new capital raised" (The European Dream, p.70).
. "Europe surpassed the United States in the mid-1990s as the largest
producer of scientific literature" (The European Dream, p.70).
. Nevertheless, Congress cut funds to the National Science Foundation.
The
agency will issue 1,000 fewer research grants this year (NYT, Dec. 21,
2004).
. Foreign applications to U.S. grad schools declined 28% last year.
Foreign
student enrollment on all levels fell for the first time in three
decades,
but increased greatly in Europe and China. Last year Chinese
grad-school
graduates in the U.S. dropped 56%, Indians 51%, South Koreans 28%
(NYT, Dec.
21, 2004). We're not the place to be anymore.
. The World Health Organization "ranked the countries of the world in
terms
of overall health performance, and the U.S. [was] ... 37th." In the
fairness
of health care, we're 54th. "The irony is that the United States
spends more
per capita for health care than any other nation in the world" (The
European
Dream, pp.79-80). Pay more, get lots, lots less.
. "The U.S. and South Africa are the only two developed countries in
the
world that do not provide health care for all their citizens" (The
European
Dream, p.80). Excuse me, but since when is South Africa a "developed"
country? Anyway, that's the company we're keeping.
. Lack of health insurance coverage causes 18,000 unnecessary American
deaths a year. (That's six times the number of people killed on 9/11.)
(NYT,
Jan. 12, 2005.)
. "U.S. childhood poverty now ranks 22nd, or second to last, among the
developed nations. Only Mexico scores lower" (The European Dream,
p.81).
Been to Mexico lately? Does it look "developed" to you? Yet it's the
only
"developed" country to score lower in childhood poverty.
. Twelve million American families - more than 10% of all U.S.
households -
"continue to struggle, and not always successfully, to feed
themselves."
Families that "had members who actually went hungry at some point last
year"
numbered 3.9 million (NYT, Nov. 22, 2004).
. The United States is 41st in the world in infant mortality. Cuba
scores
higher (NYT, Jan. 12, 2005).
. Women are 70% more likely to die in childbirth in America than in
Europe
(NYT, Jan. 12, 2005).
. The leading cause of death of pregnant women in this country is
murder
(CNN, Dec. 14, 2004).
. "Of the 20 most developed countries in the world, the U.S. was dead
last
in the growth rate of total compensation to its work-force in the
1980s. ...
In the 1990s, the U.S. average compensation growth rate grew only
slightly,
at an annual rate of about 0.1%" (The European Dream, p.39). Yet
Americans
work longer hours per year than any other industrialized country, and
get
less vacation time.
. "Sixty-one of the 140 biggest companies on the Global Fortune 500
rankings
are European, while only 50 are U.S. companies" (The European Dream,
p.66).
"In a recent survey of the world's 50 best companies, conducted by
Global
Finance, all but one was European" (The European Dream, p.69).
. "Fourteen of the 20 largest commercial banks in the world today are
European. ... In the chemical industry, the European company BASF is
the
world's leader, and three of the top six players are European. In
engineering and construction, three of the top five companies are
European.
... The two others are Japanese. Not a single American engineering and
construction company is included among the world's top nine
competitors. In
food and consumer products, Nestlé and Unilever, two European giants,
rank
first and second, respectively, in the world. In the food and
drugstore
retail trade, two European companies ... are first and second, and
European
companies make up five of the top 10. Only four U.S. companies are on
the
list" (The European Dream, p.68).
. The United States has lost 1.3 million jobs to China in the last
decade
(CNN, Jan. 12, 2005).
. U.S. employers eliminated 1 million jobs in 2004 (The Week, Jan. 14,
2005).
. Three million six hundred thousand Americans ran out of unemployment
insurance last year; 1.8 million - one in five - unemployed workers
are
jobless for more than six months (NYT, Jan. 9, 2005).
. Japan, China, Taiwan, and South Korea hold 40% of our government
debt.
(That's why we talk nice to them.) "By helping keep mortgage rates
from
rising, China has come to play an enormous and little-noticed role in
sustaining the American housing boom" (NYT, Dec. 4, 2004). Read that
twice.
We owe our housing boom to China, because they want us to keep buying
all
that stuff they manufacture.
. Sometime in the next 10 years Brazil will probably pass the U.S. as
the
world's largest agricultural producer. Brazil is now the world's
largest
exporter of chickens, orange juice, sugar, coffee, and tobacco. Last
year,
Brazil passed the U.S. as the world's largest beef producer. (Hear
that, you
poor deluded cowboys?) As a result, while we bear record trade
deficits,
Brazil boasts a $30 billion trade surplus (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).
. As of last June, the U.S. imported more food than it exported (NYT,
Dec.
12, 2004).
. Bush: 62,027,582 votes. Kerry: 59,026,003 votes. Number of eligible
voters
who didn't show up: 79,279,000 (NYT, Dec. 26, 2004). That's more than
a
third. Way more. If more than a third of Iraqis don't show for their
election, no country in the world will think that election legitimate.
. One-third of all U.S. children are born out of wedlock. One-half of
all
U.S. children will live in a one-parent house (CNN, Dec. 10, 2004).
. "Americans are now spending more money on gambling than on movies,
videos,
DVDs, music, and books combined" (The European Dream, p.28).
. "Nearly one out of four Americans [believe] that using violence to
get
what they want is acceptable" (The European Dream, p.32).
. Forty-three percent of Americans think torture is sometimes
justified,
according to a PEW Poll (Associated Press, Aug. 19, 2004).
. "Nearly 900,000 children were abused or neglected in 2002, the last
year
for which such data are available" (USA Today, Dec. 21, 2004).
. "The International Association of Chiefs of Police said that cuts by
the
[Bush] administration in federal aid to local police agencies have
left the
nation more vulnerable than ever" (USA Today, Nov. 17, 2004).
No. 1? In most important categories we're not even in the Top 10
anymore.
Not even close.
The USA is "No. 1" in nothing but weaponry, consumer spending, debt,
and
delusion.

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Guarda che la classifica che tu hai postato e' una classifica a
carattere GENERALE stillata da US News. Poi, sempre stillate da US
News, ci sono classifiche per singole facolta' e UT-Austin in
Ingegneria e' ottava o nona mi sembra, mentre per Business quinta o
sesta. Cosi' come e' tra le Top 10 in molte altre facolta'. Allora mi
chiederai:"come mai quindi e' al numero 46 della classifica generale"?
Questo perche' quella Classifica tiene conto di molti fattori tra i
quali (numero studenti per classe, rapporto numero professori/studenti,
difficolta' di ammissione, percentuale di studenti che si laurea, etc)
tutti fattori che FAVORISCONO enormemente le Universita' private
(Harvard, Princeton, etc) su quelle pubbliche (Illinois, Texas, etc).
Ma se poi andiamo a vedere dove stanno Harvard e Princeton nelle
clssifiche di Ingegneria, sono sotto Texas, Michigan, Illinois, Georgia
Tech, etc.
Chiaro il concetto?

"Texas Longhorns"ha scritto nel messaggio
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Ok, belle statistiche, decisamente d'effetto.
Ora normalizza (se non già fatto) i dati in funzione della popolazione di 
ogni stato.
Saluti, Andrea. 

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*** DA LEGGERE ***
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NON SI CRESCE SENZA INGEGNERI
di Francesco Giavazzi
[...] evidentemente i nostri ingegneri elettrotecnici, seppur sempre più 
rari, godono ancora di un'ottima reputazione. Così come i loro colleghi 
aerospaziali dell'Agusta Westland, l'azienda di Finmeccanica dove è 
stato progettato l'elicottero che un mese fa ha vinto la gara della U. 
S. Navy per la Casa Bianca [...]

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appunto...! 

 finire se esistano o no le edicole a chioschetto....!!! ;-)
Non mi pare che abbiamo mai parlato delle differenze tra vecchio e nuovo
ordinamento. Io aprirei un bel thread su questo.
Ciao
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