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Titolo: [Draft] Le "dormite" storiche...

Curiosando dopo il draft sul sito 
nba.com
, ho trovato questo interessante
pezzo sulle dormite storiche.
Carino e anche qualche cosa gustosa il giusto: Willis Reed al secondo
giro?????? Di Stockton ricordavo, di Dumars anche, ma di altri proprio non
immaginavo. Altro che l'overscouting di oggi...
Ecco le 10 'migliori' di sempre by Rob Peterson:
      1. Willis Reed - New York Knicks
      STATS G MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
      Career 650 36.5 .476 N/A .747 12.9 1.8.3 N/A N/A 18.7
Why he's here: Drafted in the second round by the Knicks out of Grambling
St., Reed became a fixture in the New York lineup for the next 10 seasons
... Became the first man to win the All-Star, regular season and Finals MVP
awards in the same season in 1970 ... Created one of sports more indelible
moments when injured, he took the floor for Game 7 of 1970 Finals ... Was
named Finals MVP in 1973 as well ... Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball
Hall of Fame in 1982 ... One of NBA's 50 Greatest Players ...
     2. John Stockton - Utah Jazz
            STATS G MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
            Career 1,504 31.8 .515 .384 .826 2.7 10.5 2.17 0.21 13.1
      Why he's here: Drafted in the first round (16th overall) by the Jazz
out of Gonzaga, Stockton, statistically, became the best point guard in the
history of the NBA ... Retired as the NBA's career leader in assists
(15,806) and steals (3,265), showing that he was a factor on both ends of
the floor ... Since 1990, played and started in 1,034 of 1,052 games for the
Jazz ... Didn't miss a game from the 1990 to 1997 season ... One of NBA's 50
Greatest Players ... Played on the 1992 Dream Team ... Future Hall of Famer
     3. Nate "Tiny" Archibald - Kings, Nets, Braves, Celtics, Bucks
            STATS G MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
            Career 876 35.6 .467 .224 .810 2.3 7.4 1.05 0.83 18.8
      Why he's here: Drafted in the second round by the Cincinnati Royals
out of Texas El-Paso, Archibald became the only player ever to lead the NBA
in points (34.0) and assists (11.37) in the same season (1972-73) with the
Kansas City/Omaha Kings ... Three time All-NBA First Team (1973, 1975, 1976)
... One of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History ... Naismith Memorial
Basketball Hall of Famer (1991)
     4. Joe Dumars - Detroit Pistons
            STATS G MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
            Career 1,018 34.5 .460 .382 .843 2.16 4.5 0.86 0.08 16.1
      Why he's here: Drafted in the first round (18th overall) by the
Detroit Pistons out of McNeese State, Dumars was named to the NBA's
All-Defensive first team four times (1989, 1990, 1992, 1993) ... Dumars, in
leading the Pistons to the first of two NBA titles was named Finals MVP in
1989 ... Six time All-Star ... NBA's Sportsmanship Award winner is presented
with the Joe Dumars trophy
     5. Alex English - Bucks, Pacers, Nuggets, Mavs
            STATS G MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
            Career 1193 31.9 .507 .217 .832 5.48 3.8 0.89 0.70 21.5
      Why he's here: Drafted in the second round (23rd overall) by the
Milwaukee Bucks out of South Carolina, English was one of the more prlofic
scorers in NBA history ... Led the league in scoring with 28.4 points per
game (1983) ... Four seasons later, tallied a career-high of 29.8 points per
game ... Had a 24.4 points per game average in the playoffs ... Nuggets
all-time leading scorer (21,645) and assists leader (3,679) ... Elected
Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1997)
     6. Bill Laimbeer - Cavs, Pistons
            STATS G MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
            Career 1,068 31.8 .498 .326 .837 9.74 2.04 0.66 0.90 12.9
      Why he's here: Though he played at a major program (Notre Dame),
drafted in the third round (65th overall) by the Cleveland Cavaliers ...
Flourished in Detroit, where he became an enforcer on the boards as he led
the league twice (1984, 1986) ... Became one of the first big men to be able
to hit the three-pointer as he was 202-for-619 for his career ... Free throw
shooting improved each season and at age 35, shot a career-best .894 percent
from the line in 1992-93 season
     7. Maurice Cheeks - Sixers, Spurs, Knicks, Hawks, Nets
            STATS G MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
            Career 1,101 31.6 .523 .255 .793 2.80 6.71 2.09 0.26 11.1
      Why he's here: Drafted in the second round (36th overall) by the
Philadelphia 76ers out of West Texas State, Cheeks was the quiet floor
leader of the Sixers 1983 championship team ... Is third on the NBA's
all-time steals list with 2,310 and eighth on the assists list with 7,392...
Named to the NBA's All-Defensive team four times (1983, 1984, 1985, 1986)
     8. Dennis Rodman - Pistons, Spurs, Bulls, Lakers, Mavs
            STATS G MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
            Career 911 31.7 .521 .232 .584 13.1 1.76 0.67 0.58 7.3
      Why he's here: Drafted in the second round (27th overall) by the
Detroit Pistons out of Southeastern Oklahoma State, Rodman was one of the
best rebounders and more colorful players of his era ... One of 22 men to
win at five NBA titles, two with Detroit (1989, 1990) and three with Chicago
(1996, 1997, 1998) ... led the NBA in rebounding a record seven consecutive
seasons (1992-1998) ... NBA Defensive Player of the Year in (1990, 1991) and
a member of the NBA All-Defensive first team seven times (1989, 1990, 1991,
1992, 1993, 1995, 1996)
     9. Dennis Johnson - Sonics, Suns, Celtics
            STATS G MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
            Career 1,100 32.7 .445 .172 .797 3.86 4.99 1.04 0.61 17.3
      Why he's here: Drafted in the second round (29th overall) by the
Seattle SuperSonics out of Pepperdine, Johnson played on three NBA
championship teams, one with Seattle (1979) and two with Boston (1984, 1986)
... was named Finals MVP in 1979 ... A six time member of the All-NBA
Defensive first team (1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1987)
     10. Terry Porter - Blazers, Wolves, Heat, Spurs
            STATS G MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
            Career 1274 27.8 .463 .386 .836 2.47 5.62 1.24 0.14 12.2
      Why he's here: Drafted in the first round (24th overall) by the
Portland Trail Blazers out of tiny Wisconsin-Stevens Point, Porter is 10th
on the NBA's all-time assists list with 7,160 ... Led the Blazers to two NBA
Finals appearances (1990, 1992) ... The Blazers all-time assists leader and
holds the Finals' single-game record for most free throws made (15) without
a miss (6/790) ... Winner J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award (1993)
Honorable mention: Al Attles, Sam Cassell, Bob Dandridge, Vlade Divac, Hal
Greer, Tim Hardaway, Robert Horry, Jeff Hornacek, Toni Kukoc, Andre Miller,
Mark Price, Jack Sikma, Jerry Sloan, Latrell Sprewell, Norm Van Lier.
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A voi i commenti...
Ciao, Gabriele

 A voi i commenti...
il "second round" di Willis Reed vuole dire decima assoluta,
cmq, e stesso dicasi per Archibald, dato che c'erano solo 8
squadre...
Io dico Stockton tutta la vita, sempre tenendo conto che Sabonis
a fine terzo giro (sessanta e passa, scelta poi annullata) nel
1985 avrebbe poututo rendere inutile pensare a questa classifica...
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Ciao,
Mau

 Mark Price, Jack Sikma, Jerry Sloan, Latrell Sprewell, Norm Van Lier.
Imho avrei messo anche Tony Parker, Cedric Ceballos (forse non oggi, ma il
ventellista ai Lakers direi di si), Shawn Kemp, Clifford Robinson, il povero
Reggie Lewis scelto da Boston e quasi quasi anche Steve Kerr che ha vinto
pur sempre 5 titoli...
Non capisco perchč l'autore abbia messo anche Andre Miller... scelto
nel 1999 come numero 8, non proprio bassa come scelta.
--
Roberto (aka slim)

 1985 avrebbe poututo rendere inutile pensare a questa classifica...
Anch'io dico Stockton.
Sabonis venne scelto nel 1985 e la scelta fu annullata perchè troppo giovane
(20 o 21 anni, decisamente altri tempi e regole rispetto ad oggi...),
riammesso nel draft dell'anno seguente venne scelto come ultimo del primo
giro al numero 24 da Portland, anche questa scelta tanto male non mi sembra
ma sicuramente dettata dal fatto che ai tempi gli europei che decidevano di
attraversare l'oceano erano pochini e quindi neanche loro ci speravano più
di tanto, cosa che poi infatti si è verificata (leggi arrivo nel 1995).
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Roberto (aka slim)

"Chocolatmaker"  ha scritto nel messaggio ...
Non ha il passo dei migliori ma pure Van Exel fu chiamato molto in alto (47?
magari ricordo male...)
Se poi pensiamo che un certo Gabriel Chocolatmaker non è mai stato scelto...
;-)
ciao
Franz

 ha scritto nel messaggio
news:0OcLa.128859$lK4.3...@twister1.libero.it...
Colto da raptus sono andato a rivedermio la storia delle scelte:
anche un certo Julius Erving scelto col n. 12 da Milwaukee merita una
menzione.
http://nbadraft.net/1979.htm#1971
Bye,
Mau


Il draft era quello del 1972:
http://nbadraft.net/1979.htm#1972
il raptus prosegue: sempre in quell'anno al terzo giro col n. 2 c'era Tale
Bob Morse e col numero 15 tale Chuck Jura (mai celebrato abbastanza in
italia)
Al decimo (sic) giro col n. 1 fu chiamato un certo Kresimir Cosic
Avendo visto personalmente questi giocare, mi chiedo: ma tutti quelli
chiamati prima erano cosě dei fenomeni?
Mah...
Bye,
Mau

Scusate, ma ci rendiamo conto che Ben Wallace nemmeno era stato scelto ?
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 Scusate, ma ci rendiamo conto che Ben Wallace nemmeno era stato scelto ?
Scusa, ma ti rendi conto che per scrivere UNA RIGA hai lasciato una coda di
8 KB??
Benvenuto, ma quota, la prossima, ok??
Ciao, Simone

 Ciao, Simone
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Mi ruga un casino, ma Pierce Paul con la 10 o 11?
Ciao
Marcello
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 Bowie?
Drexler.....
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 Marcello
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