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Titolo: Donnie Darko

Ho visto che uscirà una nuova versione. Differenze con la precedente?
Saluti.

 Saluti.
Ho letto un bellissimo post da qualche parte ma ora non ricordo dove. Erano 
elencate tutte le differenze scena per scena. Quella che ricordo e anche la 
più grave (IMHO) è la sostituzione del pezzo iniziale degli Echo & The 
Bunnymen con uno degli INXS. Donnie prendeva la bici e partiva Killing Moon, 
nella nuova versione c'è un nuovo pezzo. 

 nella nuova versione c'č un nuovo pezzo.
Queste cose non le capirņ mai.
Tay

 Tay
Il perchč il regista abbia sosituito il pezzo? NEANCHE IO!
Cambiami il montaggio, aggiungi delle scene ma mi togli uno dei momenti piů 
emozionati...io quando sentii l'attacco di Killing Moon stavo quasi per 
piangere 

 Ho letto un bellissimo post da qualche parte ma ora non ricordo dove.
Pronti, occhio agli spoiler (e' in inglese, tratta da imdb):
* Changes from the original in the Director's Cut:
2 mins: As Donnie Rides into town the music has changed from Echo and the
Bunnymen's The Killing Moon to INXS's Never Tear Us Apart.
6 mins: Before Donnie's mum enters his room after dinner she has a short
discussion with Elizabeth, asking how she knew Donnie has stopped taking
his medication.
9 mins: As Donnie is awakened by Frank's voice we see a close up of his
eye opening with Frank reflected in his iris. Also the sequence as he
leaves the house is extended slightly.
16 mins: As Donnie, Samantha and Elizabeth sit in the hotel room Samantha
tries to think of ways to make money from the accident, and Donnie tells
her when she falls asleep he's going to "fart in your face."
17 mins: As Donnie's parents discuss Frankie Feedler the scene is slightly
extended, Donnie's dad thins someone was watching over him.
23 mins: As Gretchen Ross makes her first appearance in the classroom more
reactions can be heard from the classmates.
24 mins: As Donnie and his dad drive, just before nearly hitting Grandma
Death, they flick back and forth between radio stations, Donnie wins and
music now plays throughout the scene.
28 mins: Frank's voice can now be heard during the Cunning Visions video,
telling Donnie to watch closely.
29 mins: Another shot of Donnie's eye opening as Frank awakens him before
he floods the school, water is seen reflected in his eye this time.
30 mins: Whilst waiting at the bus stop, before they hear school is
cancelled, Donnie steals Samantha's poem and torments her. Donnie's
friends also have another opportunity to bully Sharita Chen, calling her
Porky Pig, and saying "I hope you get molested."
31 mins: More rumors fly around as to why school is closed.
33 mins: As Donnie walks home with Gretchen he mentions how he wants to be
able to "change things."
37 mins: As the police check the student's handwriting we see Donnie
looking nervous, and Karen Pomeroy noticing it. This also fixes the
continuity as all the previous names on the list are called before Donnie.
41 mins: Newscast. Before the emergency PTA meeting Mrs. Farmer and Karen
Pomeroy exchange words about Mrs. Farmer's intentions to get The
Destructors banned.
44 mins: Donnie's English class have a poetry day, where Donnie reads a
poem about himself and Frank. "A storm is coming, Frank says a storm that
will swallow the children and I will deliver them from the kingdom of pain
I will deliver the children back the their doorsteps And send the monsters
back to the underground I'll send them back to a place where no-one else
can see them Except for me Because I am Donnie Darko" Karen Pomeroy then
asks him who Frank is, Donnie tells her he's a six foot bunny rabbit, and
everyone laughs at him.
53 mins: We see the first of the excerpts from The Philosophy of Time
Travel, concerning the tangent universe.
59 mins: We see Donnie waiting for the school bus a plane flies overhead
and everyone looks up nervously, then the second excerpt from The
Philosophy of Time Travel appears, Chapter 2, Water and Metal. Behind this
transition there is a short new scene where Donnie sits down next to
Gretchen and she asks him why he has blood on his neck.
61 mins: We see Donnie's parents out for dinner, discussing what they
should do about disciplining him after the incident with Mrs. Farmer.
Their opinions are wildy different, and they joke about getting divorced.
62 mins: Whilst the parents are out to dinner we see that Donnie and
Elizabeth have been sitting at home carving the pumpkins seen later in the
film.
64 mins: Another shot of Donnie's eye opening, along with footage of waves
breaking on a beach.
65 mins: We see Donnie and Gretchen in an arcade, the scene is overlaid by
chapter 7 from the book, The Manipulated Living.
66 mins: As Donnie watches Jim Cunningham's seminar at the school his
perception changes, he sees things speeded up, and mentions to Gretchen
that he is travelling through time. The seminar now goes on longer, with
extra scenes before Donnie steps up to the mic.
71 mins: Donnie and Gretchen go to visit Roberta Sparrow, there is nobody
home but Donnie checks her mailbox and is inspired to write to her. This
scene is overlaid with chapter 4 from the book, the Artifact of the Living.
74 mins: Karen Pomeroy tells the class they are no longer allowed to study
The Destructors, and that their new book will be Watership Down, however
if any student wants a copy of Graham Greene's book someone has put 20
copies aside at the Sarasota Mall.
75 mins: Another overlay from The Philosophy of Time Travel, this time
chapter 6, the Living Receiver.
81 mins: Another eye opening shot, this time with flames reflected in it.
87 mins: Another overlay, chapter 10, the Manipulated Dead.
88 mins: Donnie returns home the morning after the fire and talks to his
dad in the garden. His dad tells him that no matter how crazy he thinks he
is, he should always say what's on his mind.
90 mins: As we see Jim Cunningham arrested on TV the voiceover on the TV
is slightly different.
91 mins: Karen Pomeroy's firing is slightly shortened.
92 mins: Karen gives one of her last classes, after the students watch a
section of Watership Down they discuss Fiver (the rabbit)'s visions, and
how trusting those visions of the end of the world would save the warren.
Gretchen and Donnie argue in the class about the meaning of them. Donnie
doesn't see the point of crying over a dead rabbit, Gretchen tells Donnie
he missed the point, and Karen Pomeroy tells the class that the Deus Ex
Machina is what saved the rabbits.
97 mins: Donnie says goodbye to his mom in the street as she goes to LA
with Sparkle Motion.
98 mins: As Karen clears out her desk, her talk with Donnie is different,
she suggests on a Friday night Donnie should be out scaring old people.
103 mins: Donnie talks with his doctor about his belief in God, and she
tells him he can stop taking his medication as they are placebos.
106 mins: There is an overlay of Chapter 9, the Ensurance Trap.
110 mins: As Donnie walks around the party, observing people's channels,
there is another montage of his eye, as if he were putting all the clues
together that lead him to thinking he should go to Grandma Death's house.
114 mins: As Donnie is pinned down with the knife to his throat outside
Grandma Death's house, it is now very clear he is saying Deus Ex Machina.
116 mins: Roberta Sparrow tells Donnie a storm is coming, and that he must
hurry.
118 mins: We see a montage of things reflected in Donnie's eye as Frank
counts down to the end of the world.
120 mins: Another montage as we see the universe collapsing and rewinding
as Donnie travels back through time.
123 mins: The final overlay is of chapter 12, Dreams, which explains why
everyone seems to be having a sleepless night as Mad World plays.
Ciao,
mAx
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 Queste cose non le capirņ mai.
Anche perche' non c'e' niente da capire: il director's cut e' il cut
originale, comprensivo di scelte musicali fatte dal regista; la produzione
ha visto il film, non gli e' piaciuto cosi' com'era e gli ha fatto
cambiare delle scene, compresa la musica.
Quindi gli INXS erano la prima scelta del regista.
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Ho visto che uscirà una nuova versione. Differenze con la precedente?
ed era pure ora. Mi sono trattenuto dal prendere la prima versione
proprio perchè sapevo che sarebbe uscita questa...e finalmente... 
la data, si sa?
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 la data, si sa?
7 dicembre 

 Resta da vedere se č meglio di quella vista al cinema...
Decisamente.
Ciao,
mAx

 Decisamente.
no.
-- 
Kiavik
Ramona Badescu riguardo Star Wars Episodio III
"Sě, il film mi č piaciuto. perň il finale č stato un pň deludente.
Spero che facciano un seguito" 

 
Io l'ho presa mesi fa su 
play.com
 pagandola pochissimo (da precisare che ha
solo i sottotitoli in Italiano)
Ciao
-- 
Stefano P.

> Decisamente.
Speriamo che la qualità del dvd sia un po meglio della prima. Da me si 
vedono chiaramente le macchiette nere della pellicola!!