Newsgroup: it.fan.starwars
Titolo: Che la Forza sia con voi

Hello, Italian Star Wars Fans,
   I began this the international goodwill Star Wars project on the
rec.arts.sf.starwars.misc newsgroup. There is a section for Italian below, but
I'm not sure whether I have the correct translations:
    Please fill in any of the blanks below, listing any foreign-language
translation you know of the Star Wars motto, "May the Force be with you" and
add it to any others already listed in this thread. (If possible, please
include a phonetic pronunciation of the foreign language so that
English-readers can more readily attempt it.)
   Please use this format:
    >  [Name of Language]:  "Translation of MTFBWY into Foreign Language." ---
[Your Name]
    Comments about translation.
    Pronunciation Guide:  "[Phonetic pronunciation of the foreign language for
English speakers]"
   [Although quite a number of translations have been provided thus far, some
of them still need pronunciation guides for English-speakers. So please advise
us how to correctly pronounce those without pronunciation guides.]
M A Y   T H E   F O R C E   B E   W I T H   Y O U
    > CHOCTAW (Native American):  "Kilimpi hachimaien ahe na."
    Pronunciation Guide NEEDED:
    >  CROATIAN:  "Neka moc bude s tobom."
    Pronunciation Guide NEEDED.
    >  DUTCH:  "Moge de Kracht met je zijn."  --- Ria Heeringa
(
r...@bdv.dgk.ruu.nl
)
 
    The "g" and "ch" are the gargly sounds you often hear in Arabic. The Dutch
word "Kracht" is pronounced like the English word "craft."
        Phonetic Pronunciation:  "Mow-ge duh Kracht met juh zain."
    >  FINNISH  "Olkoon Voima kanssane."  --- Jaakko Olavi Vehkapera
    Pronunciation Guide NEEDED.
    >  FRENCH:  "Que la Force soit avec toi."  --- Martin Laverdure
    Pronunciation Guide NEEDED:
    >  FRIESIAN:  "Mei de Kre^ft mei dy we^ze."   --- Ria Heeringa
(
r...@bdv.dgk.ruu.nl
)
    The vowel "e" joined by the ^ caret symbol means that the caret ^ is really
on top of the "e" as written in Friesian.
    Phonetic Pronunciation:  "My duh Kreft* my dy wezuh.*
    (*The "e" vowel in both the words "Kreft" and "wezuh" are pronounced with
an long elongated vowel sound, sounding much like the "a" in the English word
"have.")
    Question:  Where exactly is/was former/modern-day Friesia anyway?
    >  GERMAN:  "Moege die Macht mit dir sein."  ---  Roc (
r...@psi.co.at
)
    Pronunciation is a bit hard, because there's no way to say both the German
"oe" and "ch" in English. "Oe" in German [sounds like] a cross between "o" and
"ay", as in the French word "le" or "oevre".
     "Ch" in German is like the Arabic "h" (or rather, what we write for
that sound, which is an "h"), as in "Ahmed" or "Ben Hur" and the
Spanish "j" as in "hijo" or "cojones."
    Pronunciation Guide:  "Moe-geh dee Muhcht mit deer syne."
    > HEBREW:  "She A-Koah ihie itha."  -- Zoya
    Pronunciation Guide NEEDED.
    Q:  By the way, is this Hebrew translation above the modern-day Hebrew (or
Israeli) language or the ancient one?
    >  ITALIAN:  "Che la Forza sia con voi." (Italian SW fans, is "Che la Forze
sia con te" also correct?) 
    Pronunciation Guide NEEDED.
    >  LATIN:  Two Possibilities
    --  "Illa Vis apud te maneat."  --- Ernest S. Tomlinson - San Diego State
University (
etom...@rohan.sdsu.edu
)
    Translating it into Latin is difficult on account of the lack of definite
articles; you can't really say "The Force".  The closest you can get it "That
There Force".
    -- Vis tecum sit. (or, speaking to more than one person (you plural), "Vis
vobiscum sit.")  --- David Cornette (
dcor...@isilzha.ne.mediaone.net
)
    The "sit" may not really be necessary.  Consider the phrase "Pax vobiscum,"
which means "Peace be with you."  Although in this case the English doesn't
have the "may," so perhaps it isn't a bad idea to use the hortatory
subjunctive.  Of course "vis" isn't really a great word to use for "The Force,"
since it means force in the sense of violence, while the Star Wars meaning is
more along the lines of "power."  Perhaps "auctoritas." Maybe not; anyone else
have a better word?
    Pronunciation Guides NEEDED.
    >  NORWEGIAN:  "Ma Kraaften vaere med deg."  (or "Matte Kraften vaere med
deg.") ---  Torgeir B. Aanes (
aa...@online.no
)
    The "a" in "Ma" is pronounced like the long-"o" sound. Written in
Norwegian, the "a" in "Ma" has an little dot over it.
    The combination-vowels "ae" in Norwegian is is hard to describe because
it's a combination-vowel sound, sounding like the vowel sounds of both short
"a" end "e" sounds joined together.
    Complete Pronunciation Guide NEEDED.
    >  POLISH:  "Niech Moc bedzie z Toba."  ---
    ("The first letter "e" in the word "bedzie" and the "a" in "Toba" both have
a tiny letter "c" which is attached to the bottom end-stroke of each letter
making them distinctly Polish letters.)
    Complete Pronunciation Guide NEEDED.
    >  PORTUGUESE:  "Que a Forca esteja convosco."  --- Joana L.
    Pronunciation Guide NEEDED.
    >  RUSSIAN:  "Da prebudet s tobi Sila."  --- Zoya
    Pronunciation Guide NEEDED.
    >  SPANISH:  "Que la Fuerza te acompa~ne."  -- James King
    When written in Spanish, the "n" in "acompane" has the Spanish tilde ~
symbol above it, not beside it. I only placed the tilde ~ symbol in front of
the letter "n" above to denote it was these Spanish tilded letter "n" since
Internet ASCII letters do not included the Spanish tilded letter "n."
    Pronunciation Guide:  "Kay lah FWAER-zah tay ah-cohm-PAHN-yay."
    >  SWEDISH:  "Ma Kraften Vara Med Dig!"  --- David Lfberg
(
davi...@hem.passagen.se
)
    (The "a" in "Ma" has a little dot above it, making it a Swedish letter.)
    Pronunciation Guide NEEDED.
    >  WOOKIEE:  "Woooroooowwrrr --- Rooarwwwwr --- awrrr --- Wrrraaawwwrrrr!" 
--- Mike
    No Pronunciation Guide Needed.  ; )
     >  STAR TREK KLINGON:  "cheraD yI'tlhej."   --- Dangermouse
(
mas...@sol.co.uk
)
    Klingon has a weird syntax and no verb "to be." The verb "to be" comes from
context. The above [translation], taken literally, would be "You, with the
Force, be accompanied." 
    Pronunciation Guide NEEDED.
Other Languages Sought:
    >  Arabic:
    >  Chinese:
    >  Czech:
    >  Danish:
    >  East Indian:
    >  Eskimo:
    >  Greek:
    >  Icelandic:
    >  Israeli (Modern-day):
    >  Japanese:
    >  Persian/Farsi:
    >  Polynesian:
    > Swahili:  
    >  Others:
____________________________________
MTFBWY JPGS
    Davin Felfth has recently created and posted some JPGs with MTFBWY
translations to the alt.binaries.starwars newsgroup with the subject line:
"[RASSM] Multi-Lingual Translations..." To get in touch with him by e-mail
about them, contact him via 
dfe...@netscape.net
.
    The following people from the newsgroups have helped Davin Felth out so far
with providing translations of MTFBWY for his JPG's:
      1. Martin Laverdure (French)
      2. Bas-Jan Walewijk (Dutch)
      3. roc (German)
      4. Andreas Rafaelsen (Norwegian)
      5. Joana L. (Portuguese)
      6. Marcus Sjoberg and Ria Heeringa (Swedish)
      7. Jaakko Olavi Vehkapera  (Finnish)
      8. Anonymous Contributor  (Choctaw)
      9. Zoya  (Hebrew, Russian)
     10. IG-88  (Polish)
     11. Anonymous Contributor  (Croatian)
     12. Mike   (Wookiee)
     13. Ria Heeringa (Friesian)
-- James King


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