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Titolo: SPOILER - Da aintcoolnews la recensione di una edizione preliminare di ep1

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STAR WARS EPISODE TWO: ATTACK OF THE CLONES early cut review
I saw Star Wars Episode Two: Attack of the Clones hours ago. The 'how' of
that will be a thing of mystery buried in a passed piece of paper from my
book signing with a hotel, a room number and a time listed upon it. You don'
t want to know about that room or the person(s) in that room, you want to
know about Episode Two.
Jar Jar Binks. Jar Jar has a 15 second StepInFetchIt shuffle speak routine
he does as he goes to first let Obi Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker into the
Amidala's quarters that is so offensively awful, that it will not only make
you recoil in horror, but it will remind you of all of the worst aspects of
his character from THE PHANTOM MENACE. I wanted to burn the film, destroy,
maim and murder it at this stage. I was steeling myself from the impending
incompetence, the horror of my childhood being molested. I was prepared to
have a very bad time.
I found myself not liking Anakin Skywalker at all, he's a punk spoiled brat.
A snotty nosed ego trip, that angry evil high school football quarterback
that wants the head cheerleader. He whines like a Mark Hamill squealing
about going to Toshi Station to get some power converters. There is much
anger in him. He's impulsive, conflicted, out of control and a mass
murderer. Everytime I saw him and Natalie Portman together, I wanted to tell
her to run, fly you fool. But am I not supposed to feel that way?
So did George Lucas drop the ball? Did he rape our childhood? Has he turned
into nothing more than flannel wearing toy salesman without a soul or an eye
for storytelling anymore? Was I disappointed to such a state that I wanted
to yell and scream and break my original 12 inch Boba Fett and defecate upon
it in a ritualistic purging of all that was once sacred to my childhood?
To answer all of those questions.. THANK GOD NO!!!
Lucas succeeds with the film beyond my wildest dreams.
I was scared and thrilled to be watching Episode 2. The entire time I was in
that hotel room, I was convinced that agents of Lucasfilm were going to
knock down the doors and I knew I was being set up for a fall. I mean, it
isn't possible to see STAR WARS early. I know that, but there I was watching
it. Listening to the sounds of drunk SXSW revelers falling into the door
outside.
After about 20 minutes of that awareness everything but the film ceased to
exist. The lights in the room dimmed in my mind. The person(s) in the room
shrank like Scott Carey into the microverse. Everything about me was
concentrating upon the film. The movie was not complete. There were moments
where the effects were quite rough, but the work that was finished, was
beyond reproach.
How do I explain the success of ATTACK OF THE CLONES? First, I must say that
this film makes THE PHANTOM MENACE a better film. In fact, I would have to
say that not only does it do that, but suddenly you will realize with
horror, exactly why Jar Jar Binks is in the series at all. Upon first
viewing, in less than ideal circumstances, I must say that I feel that this
is by far the most entertaining Star Wars film to date. It may not have that
innocent sense of wonder for the first film. It doesn't have that sense of
intimacy that EMPIRE STRIKES BACK had, or that film's desperation. However,
it also doesn't have the trivial frivolity of JEDI or MENACE. ATTACK OF THE
CLONES is a turning point in the saga. The point of no return.
I love this film desperately. I want to continually watch it for about a
week with my best friends. I want to see it digitally projected with sternum
shaking sound. I want to watch as friends discover the twists that
Palpatine/Sidious/Dooku have in store for us. I want to have the
conversations about what this all means, the speculative conversations about
how these elements will play out in the final chapter of the prequels.
What is great about the film?
Obi Wan Kenobi / Ewan McGregor.
He just owns the role now. There is a moment in the Cantina/Sports Bar on
the surface level of Coruscant, where he and Anakin have chased an assassin.
As they enter this packed sci-yuppie-scum club, they realize they can't seem
to be able to see 'the assassin' anymore. Anakin wants to rush in, tear the
place apart looking for the suspect. Obi Wan tells him to slow down or
something then turns to head in a different direction, Anakin asks him,
"Where you going?" to which Kenobi dryly responds, "To get something to
drink." Kenobi is just that calm about things. He is the king of cool. He'll
get his suspect, but he's going to get a drink first. Priorities. I was
reminded of him telling Luke to let go and to trust his feelings. He doesn't
repeat that here, he simply lets go and trusts his feelings. We see it as an
action, a path he chose. Then when he gets to that bar, leaning on it,
sipping that odd drink, a drug dealer comes up to him and asks, "Wanna buy
some deathsticks?" Obi Wan responds, "You don't want to sell me death
sticks." Drug dealer says, "I don't want to sell you death sticks." "You
want to go home and rethink your direction in life," Kenobi continues. "I
want to go home and rethink my direction in life," the dealer says as he
blankly turns and walks out of the club. Before he can get too smug about
his little trick he senses the assassin behind him and he pulls the patented
Obi Wan pivoting light saber at a bar strike that you've seen in the
trailer. He gets his suspect and he's never broke a sweat. He is the master.
Kenobi is just plainly cool in the film. Watch how he handles things on
Camino or the way he doesn't betray a single thought in his conversation
with Jango Fett there. He knows his game, his methods and his ways. He is
confident and completely on the clock. Ewan is relaxed in the role, clearly
having fun and is very very very good in the film. Contrary to Moriarty's
assertion that he would be more 'Han Solo' he is in fact much more Master Li
Mu Bai (Chow Yun Fat from CROUCHING TIGER HIDDEN DRAGON) but without the
romance.
Jango Fett - Boba Fett / Temuera Morrison - Daniel Logan --
I love this pair. I love them because they are the renegade Father and Son.
They have their own set of rules, they are a self contained functioning
unit. Jango wanted a son to raise his own way, that doesn't mean he beats
him and does evil things. He loves his kid. He's training him to be a good
Bounty Hunter like he is. There is very much a father/son -
Master/Apprentice style thing going on here. And they have my favorite
moment of the entire film, which is a tiny little moment between these two.
Jango and Boba are headed to Genosia when they pick up that Kenobi is
tailing them. They dive into the asteroid belt surrounding Genosia, Obi Wan
trails behind them, not being lost. Jango tells Boba something like,
"Prepare the sonic mines, we'll give him." something, I couldn't make out.
but Boba presses some buttons while doing what I can only describe as an
evil giggle. a delighted giggle. Jango looks at him smiling, as if to say.
"That's my boy!" The moment is so honest and real. I've never seen a
father - son moment like this in science fiction. Completely classic.
Anakin Skywalker - Padme Amidala / Hayden Christensen - Natalie Portman --
First Anakin is just an ass in this film. Like I said earlier, I can't stand
him. He's like that boy in the TWILIGHT ZONE movie that has too much power
and thinks about using it too much, but sometimes it goes terribly astray.
Portman's Padme in this film has mostly dropped the 'high speak' that she
had from the first film.. Injecting into her character far more vocal
variety than the droll monotone of the first film that killed the
performance. Here she infuses the character with more of herself, which is a
very good thing. I like that she doesn't want to have anything to do with
Anakin. That she constantly is aware of all the reasons they shouldn't be
together. Of the scandal. Of their careers. Anakin hates being told no. She
can see all the reasons, but when they go through what they go through. When
the emotional binding takes place between these characters through a brief
adventure, a loss of a loved one, a decent into hell. When faced with
certain doom, they realize that life is too short to worry about the ifs and
buts. And when it happens. John Williams' love theme kicks in. This really
kicks in just as Anakin and Padme kiss before being taken out and strung up
in the arena (you know the sequence when they are chained against the
pillars.) It actually starts from the shot (which we see in the trailer - of
the arena with all the Geonosis creatures seated and cheering - the long
shot looking from high to low). It consists of maybe three instruments
playing at first, classic violin, very sorrowful and warm. It almost sounds
a little bit like the theme for the Incredible Hulk TV series with Lou
Ferrigno. The intros are similar before other instruments join in. It also
reminded me of Francis Lai's theme from Arthur Hiller's LOVE STORY. Although
it is strikingly different from other parts in the film, IT FITS IN
BEAUTIFULLY. Elegant but not soppy. Gentle but not melodramatic. Williams
thinking differently (after all, a very different relationship from Han and
Leia!) and succeeding. It starts to crescendo as the lovers are wheeled out
into the arena (reminded me of the shot of Luke with the twin suns) - same
type of crescendo. It continues through the cuts between Obi-Wan chained and
them being taken over to the same place but changes into a military drum
style (you know, the thumping dictatorship heavy beat - almost like the
'sacrifice has arrived'). This changes the whole tone as we realize their
'moment' has been intruded and they are in serious poodoo. The romance is
handled in terms of familiarity and proximity. This is that sort of romance
where one loves the other, but only at the point of an emotional precipice
where the other could see that they shared that feeling and embrace it. I
liked this.
Palpatine-Sidious - Count Dooku-Darth Tyrannus / Ian McDiarmid - Christopher
Lee --
Wow. Ok, read no spoilers about all of this. I remember thinking that Lucas
could be soft in the head for trying to fool the audience into thinking
Palpatine isn't Sidious. I mean we can see that in the credits. What the
hell? Right? See that is so like a self-centered audience. To sit there and
think they are the center of the universe. The Palpatine-Sidious thing from
the first film. The trade dispute. All of it not only makes sense with this
film, but the way it unfolds. As you see the point of the various guises and
names. How Yoda and Windu sense no 'disturbance' around Palpatine. There are
reasons for these things. Just because you don't know them yet, doesn't mean
Lucas doesn't know what he's doing. Upon seeing this film, seeing how he
handles these two characters being 4 characters. It is genius. Compelling
Machiavellian positioning and deception. There are points in this film where
I wanted to scream at the screen and say, "Palpatine is an evil Sith Lord!
They're conspiring to destroy the Republic from within!" That's when
Christopher Lee essentially tells Obi Wan the same thing. My god. The evil.
The evil of using the truth, knowing it could only be interpreted as being a
deception and a lie. The Devil uses truth to betray mankind, because he is
expected to lie. and the truth sounds better, but will never be believed.
Just wait till you see how the Death Star plays into this. You'll friggin
die! FANTASTIC.
Yoda-Dooku fight. HOLY GOD! Right now there is a lot of speculation about
Yoda with lightning. It is on one of the soundtrack covers. When you look at
that. When people described the ball of lightning in Yoda's hands from
ShoWest, I thought they were insane. I thought only the bad guys did that.
When I saw the film, well. I can tell you exactly how that moment plays out.
So far as I have seen that hasn't leaked and it isn't a huge spoiler. When
Yoda and Dooku first set up to go at it, Dooku hurls lightning at Yoda. Yes,
Chris Lee's character is that strong. Perhaps the strongest character with
the force I have ever seen in Star Wars history. He attacks Yoda with
lightning, Yoda captures it, twirls it around, balls it up and redirects it
back at Lee. When I saw this, I screamed like a little girl. I mean it was
like Uncle Tony grabbed my pantied ass. I jumped about 12 feet up in the air
and squealed. WHAT A THRILL! The Yoda - Dooku fight is astonishing. I can
not emphasize that enough. I have been thinking for quite some time that
there was no way on earth that Yoda with a light saber could look cool.
Folks, not only does it look cool, but there will be a collective scream of
HOLY SHIT when what happens happens. Yoda's fighting style is. well let's
just say he could kick all your asses. Oh and by the way, Williams' DUEL OF
THE FATES was nothing in comparison to this. Remember Vader vs Luke in
EMPIRE. How overwhelmingly powerful Vader felt in comparison to Luke.
Remember how weak Vader felt in comparison to the Emperor? Now imagine
someone with The emperor's powers in a full on battle with a master. Here
towers of metal are torn asunder with the power of the force. The ceiling
ripped apart. Seemingly unlimited strength with the force. You will quiver,
shake and scream. You are warned.
You have to understand something in going into this film.
What you have seen in Star Wars movies before were skirmishes. incidents.
Remember, The Battle of Hoth was small, a minor hiccup. In ATTACK OF THE
CLONES, you have the first REAL Star War. It isn't a space battle, but you
understand the scale of things. The size and scope of a MAJOR OFFENSIVE. And
unlike in PHANTOM MENACE, where Lucas decided to cut up the action by trying
to intercut three consecutive arenas of battle, here he portrays the action
linearly. basically following Obi Wan and Anakin and Padme. who all
basically stick together, with Padme taking a roll in some sand to miss out
on the Dooku battle.
After the film was finished playing I was just beside myself with glee.
Right now it is a very interesting time for Star Wars fandom. PHANTOM MENACE
polarized the audience into the faithful and those that felt it had all gone
wrong. That everything was doomed. With the introduction of MATRIX and LORD
OF THE RINGS into fan circles, there began to be a real angry mix. Fights,
screamings and hurling of 'love it or leave it' style rhetoric.
Watching the trailers for STAR WARS: ATTACK OF THE CLONES in theaters, the
audiences seemed muted in comparison to the delightful screams of approval
from the SPIDER-MAN trailers.
You know those guys that have been camping up in Portland? The experience
they are going to have in the theater upon that first showing. They will be
so completely happy.
Now the cut I saw was still a bit rough around the edges, but folks. I can't
wait to see this on the big screen complete. To see what gets cut, what gets
changed, what I notice when watching this movie the way Lucas meant for
people to see it.
The source(s) that showed it to me were tired of all my LORD OF THE RINGS
stuff. They were tired of all the rhetoric about Tolkien, all the focus I
had on LORD OF THE RINGS. They wanted someone outside of the ranch, outside
of the 'circle', someone that seemed to be straying from the fold to see
what it was that Lucas had done. What Lucas has done, is to make a film that
is so relentlessly entertaining and thrilling, that there will be no movie
this summer that can stand against it. This is it.
This movie is the real deal. It is smart, beautiful (god digital photography
is the glory and the future of the world of film, the palette is strikingly
dramatically colorful), thrilling and electrical. Essentially it is a pure
action adventure science fiction fantasy with a touch of romance. Line up
now. This Star Wars is for real.
P.s. To the talkbacker concerned about Jimmy Smits... He doesn't really do
anything major in this film. He is next to Palpatine though right before
that amazing shot of all the Clone Troopers and those Star Destroyer
things... So he's close to Palpatine, but I bet he betrays Palp in the next
one (speculation) Oh, I'm off to Los Angeles, so I won't be doing talk back
looking on this to answer questions, but if you come to the book signing at
BOOK SOUP Tuesday at 7pm, I'll answer all NON-SPOILER QUESTIONS about
Episode 2. In fact, I'll even do imitations of scenes and looks on faces.
I'm so jazzed about this movie now! Can't wait to share, but not spoil!!!
The gods of spies have looked out for me on this one.... That sacrificial
Power Puff doll was worth it! "
--
Rosso 5
Maestro Jedi del Lato Neutrale della Forza
"I'm a pilot, not a counter."
Detentore di un puf giallo canarino nel consiglio ormai deserto dei Jedi.
(Mi dispiace Beppe, ma il tuo puf te lo curi tu, io mi sono rotto)
Home Page: 
http://digilander.iol.it/rossocinque/index.htm
IRC nick: Rosso5 (o meno, a seconda dell'ora e se Red Leader non fracassa
gli zebedei :)

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Mi hai sbagliato il subject, Rosso.
A letto senza cena.


La rece è attendibile, lo dicono "fonti ben informate" (ho sempre sognato di
dire questa frase!!! :-P), pertanto me ne guardo bene dal darle una seppur
minima occhiata! Oramai manca così poco che rovinarsi la visione adesso mi
sembra parecchio stupido!
Comunque chi ha scritto quella rece subirà l'ira di George (e dei suoi
avvocati), stanne certo, visto che, con molta probabilità, si tratta di
qualcuno che ha presenziato alla visione di qualche "prima stesura" e i nomi
di tali personaggi sono noti alla LFL!
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Fondatore e unico membro del Consiglio del Lato Indeciso
(comincio a sentirmi un po' solo qui)
Già Jedi Bendu della Maestra Milady
Già Jedi Bendu del Cavaliere Brancaleone da Norcia
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Sono inequivocabilmente senza speranza.
Sui ceci, perdio! Altro che senza cena. Fustigate!
Ma porcogiuda.... : (
Rosso 5 con cilicio e flagello.