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Titolo: Arcanum *dibattito tra Tecnologia Vs Magia*

*Magic vs. technology... a debate between a Natural scientist
and an Arch Magi:
[*KLIP*]
FARADAY: With your indulgence, I offer a loose general definition of
the term "Technology". For purposes of this discussion, we will call
"Technology" all those useful tools, techniques and processes which
result from the application of Science.
WESTWIND: Calling these Technologies "useful" is a matter of opinion!
But otherwise the definition will pass, Professor. I remind you that
the definition of Magick is very nearly as simple. The practice of
Magick is an Art, rather than a Science; the difference between a
Science and an Art is the fundamental difference between Sorcery and
Technology.
FARADAY: If one employs the principles of Science, one achieves a
result which can be reproduced by anyone, regardless of their
circumstances, provided that the same techniques and tools are always
used. In the pursuit of Technology, we perform many experiments; the
result of any experiment must be repeatable to be considered valid. A
machine must be based on sound and reliable principles, or it is
useless.
WESTWIND: Pah! Every machine is useless, Professor. But let us make a
contrast for your learned fellows. The practitioner of any Art -
Magick is but one of many - achieves a result which cannot be achieved
by every one, every time. In fact, the more powerful and complex the
Magick being performed, the more unique it is - and the less likely it
is that another mage will be able to successfully copy it!
FARADAY: And yet we see the same tricks performed by a half-dozen
shabby magicians if we but walk for fifteen minutes on the city
streets.
WESTWIND: Most of what you see in Tarant is not real Magick,
Professor! It is mere sleight-of-hand, the tricks of petty confidence
men; at best you'll see a glimmering of Talent, enough to change the
ink on a card or conjure a posy from the air. Every one of those
miserable pretenders would wet himself in the presence of a real Mage!
FARADAY: I've heard that real Mages occasionally do the same in the
presence of small dynamo-electric machines, Master Westwind.
WESTWIND: I did spill a pitcher of drinking water on myself, sir. But
I remind you that this occurred while I was trying to save what
emained of our hair!
FARADAY: Please don't allow me to interrupt your discourse on the
dubiousArt of Magick, Westwind! We are all listening, I assure you.
WESTWIND: Very well. To conclude: the results of an experiment in Art
depend entirely on individual Talent and Ability. It is not a Science.
You cannot exactly reproduce the tools and the techniques which are
used in any act of Sorcery, because the sorcerer's main instrument is
the force of his own Will. The Will is a function of our inner being,
and since the inner being of every man and woman is unique, the exact
result of a Spell cannot be exactly predicted. Two mages can perform
the same incantation, throw the same bones, burn the same incense, and
still achieve wildly different
results.
FARADAY: Exactly the problem! Magic is no more reliable than the
individual men and women who practice it. Its action varies according
to unknown formulae, and we have found its effect on Technological
devices to be erratic, save that it is universally harmful.
WESTWIND: Yes. There is a good reason for this. We come again to the
Will, which is the force by which a Sorcerer achieves his ends. Using
his or her Will as a lever, the practitioner of Magick suspends,
however briefly, the very same natural laws upon which a Technological
device depends.
FARADAY: I had not heard it stated thus before, but I find the
metaphor you employ intriguing. The notion may have some merit;
certainly it is as good an explanation as any I have yet heard, to
explain this generally observed phenomenon.
WESTWIND: The power of the sorcerer's Will creates, as it were, a
field of effect. Within the radius of this field, the ordinary
principles of Natural Law do not strictly apply. They are altered
according to the sorcerer's direction, for his or her own benefit.
FARADAY: And thus the disruption of machines which depend on Natural
Law for their operation! Yes, this may very well be the case. Of
course, like all theories having to do with Magick, it will be
difficult to prove. In general, you must agree, Technology is far more
reliable than Spellcraft - especially as a means of securing
Prosperity for the general population.
[*klip*]... more on the site
[certo č che se questo č un esempio di dialogo nel gioco, penso che ne
vedremo delle belle... molto interessante, molto...]
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On Wed, 17 May 2000 16:32:12 GMT, 
cla...@tin.it
 (Matthia) wrote:
Qualcuno di questo ng ti ha contagiato , Matt....
Non so, cos'e', fa figo far vedere che si leggono i siti e i ng in
inglese?
Lello "Wolverine" Sarti
 
lello...@libero.it
                                             Ue' ciao....
"Io ci gioco, pero'....pero' mi fa schifo."

 inglese?
che fai, rosichi ? 
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Devalla Crivasto, amico. Bovati.

che fai, rosichi ? 
No, mi stanno sui coglioni quelli che ogni 3 parole ne devono mettere
4 in inglese....E non mi riferisco a matt, ovviamente....
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 4 in inglese....E non mi riferisco a matt, ovviamente....
Capisco quando dici queste things, queste orrible persons dovrebbere starsene a
casa a badare ai children, anziche' venire in un newsgroup e rompere i browns
(trad: marroni)
:) 
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inglese?
Veramente č da parecchio che faccio cose del genere, cmq č che volevo
far partecipe della notizia/dibattito anche il NG e mi scocciavo di
tradurlo; tanto chi non sa l'inglese qui sei solo tu ;-))
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Nick             :  Matthia
E-Mail           :  
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E-Mail to GSM: 
clau...@sms.tin.it
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-- I titoli che aspetto di piů:
Arcanum - Anachronox - Divinity - Morrowind - NeverWinterNights
Vampire - Baldur's Gate 2 - Werewolf - Cthulhu: Dark Corners of Earth
Deus Ex - Outcast 2 - Republic: The Revolution - Quark - Hitman47
Dreamland - Jagged Alliance 3 - H'n'D 2 - Mafia - Commandos 2
Duke Nukem Forever - Team Fortress 2 - Wizardry 8 - Max Payne
Alone in the Dark 4 - Monkey Island 4 - Blade - Player Manager Online
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(trad: marroni)
ma che lingua parli?:-)
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Miiiiiiiiiiiiii...un siculo che parla padano :-))
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...and moving lips to breathe her name
I opened up my eyes
and found myself alone alone
alone above a raging sea
that stole the only girl I loved
and drowned her deep inside of me...
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 4 in inglese....E non mi riferisco a matt, ovviamente....
vabbč sě... ma alla fine matthia ha fatto un bel lavoro postandoci la
roba. 
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 D. Eddings - La fine del gioco - Editrice Nord
Sto leggendo:
Il dizionario fantastico di Tolkien curato dalla S.T.I.
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