Newsgroup: it.cultura
Titolo: Are Italian Politicians stupid ?

 
When Italy invited an accepted terrorist into their country, I thought
Italian Politicians were very inexperienced in world politics.  Now
they have given him an aeroplane _ alleged to be a military one - and
helped him to escape to an unknown destination, I think they were not
inexperienced,  but damn stupid.  
They committed a crime by collaborating with a terrorist in a state
level. An Italian Member of Parliament went to Moscow to bring him to
Italy. They flew together to Rome in the same plane. But somehow a
duty conscious Italian policeman noticed that Ocalan was carrying a
false passport and arrested him.  You all know this event and what
followed afterwards.  Your Prime Minister and communist members of the
government and the communist members of parliament went to extreme
lengths to protect him. They even managed to overcome the law and the
justice you Italians are so proud of. ! They released him; they
accepted him as a political refugee.  They provided him first class
accommodation and telecommunications facilities. While he was residing
in Italy, top members of his organisation visited him and he has
written instructions to his fellow terrorists. A Turkish helicopter
was shot down, a supermarket in eastern town of Turkey were bombed and
more than 30 innocent young soldiers, women and children died.  Your
government helped him organise these attacks and murderous acts. What
does this make them? ?  An accomplice of a terrorist is also a
terrorist; an accomplice of a murderer is also a murderer in my
understanding.  
Why should we forgive and forget what Italian Government did to his
Nato friend. ? 
Now,  you have provided and engineered his disappearance, without even
giving any information to Turkish Government. And you insist that you
are not going to tell us where about he is.   I really do not care,
for all I know he may still be in Italy, being protected again by the
secret power of your government.  Why should I believe you that he has
left, and what does it matter even if he really left.   People just
like him are ruling Italy, they are the criminals now.  Every time pkk
commits further acts of murder the mothers and fathers of who had died
will curse you. Everytime pkk threatens the lives of the innocent we
will remember you with hatred.  Everytime there is a victim of illegal
drugs and heroin you will be a party to that crime. 
You did not consider him as criminal whereas all other countries did.
What does this tell you honest people of Italy?  Let me tell you, only
one conclusion can be drawn from this strange behaviour of your
communist party that, they were involved in the crimes of pkk to such
extent that they benefited from drug trafficking and other illegal
activities of pkk and perhaps even used the funds in their election
campaigns. 
There are criminals in your parliament. Those who invited him to
Italy, those who has given him help and support during his stay, those
who have organised so called escape. These people must be brought to a
trial, even now your prime minister must tell to the relatives of
those murdered by pkk terrorists why he and his government acted this
way.  You owe us that much. 
You,  Italian people suffered both economically and psychologically;
you will further suffer, as the young children of Turkey will grow up
knowing your crimes against the nation of Turkey.   It is  now your
duty to end this by asking the justice to be done and punish the
guilty members of your government.  Bring these drug dealing,
murderers into open and clear your conscience and apologise from those
whose sons and daughters, fathers and mothers killed by pkk.  

I think a person living in a house full of cow shit should limit the
amount he dishes out. Excuse me but I think your grass hut just fell
apart! Maybe you need more cow shit to keep it together..So stop throwing
it out and patch up.....and maybe less time on the computer talking about
things that you know very little about.

lutfu wrote:
You,  Italian people suffered both economically and psychologically;
you will further suffer, as the young children of Turkey will grow up
knowing your crimes against the nation of Turkey.   It is  now your
duty to end this by asking the justice to be done and punish the
guilty members of your government.  Bring these drug dealing,
murderers into open and clear your conscience and apologise from those
whose sons and daughters, fathers and mothers killed by pkk.
 I wrote:
The truth is this you scum-bag mother-fucker!
1. Turks are boycotting Italian companies yes, however, ALL of them
are staffed by Turks.
2. Turks ARE NOT boycotting Italian high tech products(Olivetti, sheet
metal,Fiat car parts) because they can't get anything better and
furthermore
remember- their entire industial setup is based
on the Italian model(Italian put it together, though not as good as in
Italy)- so they need Italian parts-get it- so their isn't really anything
their boycotting that hurts Italian workers, except
3. Italian produce was slated for a hard fall, but as luck would have
it the recent BAD weather in N America has cut produce production so that
the Italians have found a BIGGER market in Canada and New England.
 p.s. The big produce boycott from Turkey isn't going well either.
Apparently,
scarse Italian produce is selling at well infalted prices in Turkey, how
do you like them apples!
4. The EU WAS to give the Turks big time money - but the boycotting
of Italy has left this money in limbo
p.s. The smart Turks have already spent the CASH!
5. The Turks are depending on Italy for helping their cause to get
into the EU, and the  PM of Turkey has said," The Ocalan
affair should not cloud the good relations between Italy and Turkey as
pertain to the European Union"
How do you like them oranges!!!!They want Italy to continue to support
them!!!
I say Italy should say FUCK YOU!!!!!!
IF you want confirmation on all or any of these just look up the Turkish
rag Miliyet.com and you will see the true econmic mess they are in.

 time with you any more, your IQ is too low.
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did  this make you very angry strores ?  Why don't you like it. ? 
I know all about you, and I am afraid your's is not one of those
opinions I am interested .  Because you are a scum, and a sick virus
on the net, a piece of litter,  so you are not worth bothering with.  
staright into rubbish basket, never to see again !!!

The question is, besides of this nevous words, Turkeu officially asked Italian
government to extradit Ocalan.
And Italian government snet him via airplane  to somewhere.
How the Italian government now will officially answer the official request of
Turkey ?
Officially ?

Uzman & Lutfu,
Despite a very long history where we had many dealings with Italians, Italians
seem not to learn from the history. 
A cavalier attitude of Dallama, who has no idea of being a statesman, brought
only dishonor to Italians. Italians are now mentioned at the same breath as the
Syrians, Libyans, Greeks as the terrorist supporting nations of the world. 
Italians: Learn this:
We, Turks have long memories.
 We make great friends but formidable enemies as one Italian diplomat said
during the years where Italians were in a place where they had no business to
be.  Once again, Italians put their hands in where they have no business, get
ready for the consequences. 
Italians! You have a coward as a Prime Minister who has brought dishonor to
Italians.
 

  I wrote:
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Stores,
Spare the insults, will you?
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 lutfu wrote:
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Yes, Lutfu, SOME Italian politicians, indeed, are stupid! But what about
SOME Turkish politicians?
Motty Levi (Sesto Fiorentino)
lutfu wrote:
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You're a bit much! I know you are emotionally involved and stuff, but, bear in
mind Italians don't give a shit, and so would NEVER have invited this man or
anyone like him, as a people. So quit badmouhting Italians. You can badmouth
Italian politicians as it is a bodily automatism, like breathing, for Italians
to do so. Remember Italy is under a Communist Regime, which is soon to be
totalitarian "democracy". Turkey, as I remember, is not very good at respecting
individuals, or indeed nations (see Cyprus). I often discuss this issue and
others with my Turkish friends and things like PKK are inconvenient, except for
dangerous megalomaniacs like Fausto Bertinotti (Italian Communist Party leader)
and those like him. He wallowed in this crap. D'Alema, whom I do not at all
support, had to get out of hot water - keep his Communist friends around the
world and in the factories (he was one too until they changed the name of the
Party!) and ne seen to be correct legally and formally.

A chi ti riferisci, Hypnos? A me o a Lutfu? :-)
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Lutfu

 Lutfu