Sarah recently emailed us:
What’s the difference between Irish and Gaelic?? 🙂
Good question! It’s important to clear up what we means. Here, we’re always referring to the Celtic language of Ireland.
What does Irish mean?
In Ireland, people generally refer to the language of Ireland simply as “Irish”. For example, you can ask someone on the street “Do you speak Irish?”, they might answer “Yes, I speak Irish”.
As well as calling it Irish, you could be a bit more specific and call it the Irish language.
What does Gaelic mean?
Gaelic is a bit more ambiguous. A lot of the time, it’s used to refer to the related Celtic language spoken in parts of Scotland.
People in Ireland when talking with tourists about the language may also refer to Irish as Gaelic. They would do this to try to make the term less ambiguous. Still, if you simply say “Gaelic”, it’s not absolutely clear if you’re referring to the Irish of Scottish Gaelic.
In another post, we went into the differences between Irish and Gaelic.
What does Irish Gaelic mean?
Irish Gaelic is more specific than Gaelic. It refers specifically to the Irish language.
This term is not used within Ireland, but it’s a good compromise if you’re speaking with people who might not know that “Irish” is a language.
What does Gaeilge mean?
Gaeilge is the name for Irish in the Irish language. Béarla is the name for the English language in the Irish language.
Gaeilge is the word where the English language word “Gaelic” is derived from.
If you’re speaking with a group of people who are all aware of the Irish language, then you can probably just call it Irish. Also, call it Irish if you’re speaking with an Irish person in Ireland.
If you’re outside of Ireland, it’s safe enough to refer to the language as Irish Gaelic. If you you “Gaelic” when referring to the Irish language, this might lead to misunderstandings.
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so what if you call it gaelige would this be the most pure form of the word and how is it pronounced?
Gaeilge is just irish in irish like detusch is german in german and Gaeilge pronounced is the Gwale-Ga
ok so i am getting a heritage tatto and im an 8th irish and i want it to say irish in the irish language would i want to put na hÉireann or would i want to put Gaeilge
Sorry Gabriel, we don’t offer translations. But thanks for getting in touch. I suggest asking over at http://www.irishlanguageforum.com


Master Class: Jookin with Lil Buck & Ron “Prime Tyme” Myles
Leader of the dance style known as Jookin, which originated in Memphis, TN, Lil Buck gained mass acclaim for his YouTube collaboration with Yo-Yo Ma in The Swan directed by Damian Woetzel. Lil Buck appeared with Madonna in her 2012 Super Bowl XLVI Halftime Show and now performs with Madonna regularly. He has made guest appearances on The Colbert Report, and in 2017 was featured in two nationally-televised commercials, one for Lexus (during Super Bowl LI) and the acclaimed Apple AirPods spot, which has since received millions of views on YouTube.
Bessie-Award winner, Ron “Prime Tyme” Myles was born in Memphis, TN and specializes in Jookin, a type of freestyle dance developed on the streets of Memphis. Ron has appeared in the feature films Footloose (2011), Frank and Cindy (2014) and Alvin and the Chipmunks: Road Chip (2015). Ron has also starred in several commercials including Beats by Dre, Diet Pepsi (with Sofia Vergara), Kohl’s and Adidas Originals.


Clay in Context at Hope High School
Installing the murals at Providence’s Hope High School
Next week when students return to Hope High School on the East Side of Providence, they’ll walk through an entrance hall that is anything but the ho-hum back-to-school norm. On glazed tile mosaics that cover four square columns in the main lobby, they will see gleaming fish scale patterns, Inca god designs and even an Art-Deco-inspired abstract staircase.
Installed in late May, the bold, imaginative Hope High murals represent the culmination of a unique spring semester collaboration between RISD’s Ceramics department, the department of Teaching + Learning in Art + Design (TLAD) and TLAD’s signature after-school studio program for local high school teens, Project Open Door. The project brought six Ceramics majors from RISD and six teens from Hope High School together for a highly complex, physically demanding, multi-phase collaboration—mixing, measuring, firing, sanding and testing colors for hundreds of intricately laid tiles.
“Everyone rose to the occasion for this project, and in some cases did that in a very emotional way,” says Associate Professor Katy Schimert, who heads the Ceramics department. “The process was incredibly important—coming up with the concept, following through with drawings, colors, the firing of the clay, the installation. But the permanence of the end result is important, too. These students can come back years from now and look at their work, because it will still be there for the community to enjoy.”
The mural collaboration began simply enough—when a well-established Ceramics course, Clay in Context, prompted a brand new question in Schimert, who had just arrived at RISD.
“It was kind of a traditional class where the students went out and did some kind of project. One thing they did for years was make dishes for restaurants,” says Schimert, who taught the course last spring. “But I don’t live in Providence, and I wasn’t sure what I was going to do at all in terms of a project we could do in a public space.”
Schimert turned to her faculty mentor, longtime TLAD Department Head Paul Sproll, who suggested a project that combined Schimert’s goals for the course with RISD’s commitment to community engagement. “Basically he said, ‘This is great! There’s this high school, and they have a lobby that could really use something like that,’” Schimert says. “And that was it. We had the project and started working with six teens from Hope High School.”
As the course began to take shape, the collaboration grew to involve more and more stakeholders at Hope High School, from the art faculty to its custodial staff and its principal, Robert DiMuccio, whose support was instrumental.
“I was totally blown away by how invested the Hope students got in the whole project,” says Ian Buchbiner 11 CR/MAT 12, a former student teacher at Hope who served as a liaison for the project. “It’s very difficult to get any high school student to sit down for three hours after school just ended, and these kids were so eager to do things like paint tiles or clean up seam lines. They had that sense of ownership, because it’s their school. And now it’s a huge point of pride knowing that Hope students were involved in that.”


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PEW Research Center (a US nonpartisan "fact tank" that provides information on the trends shaping the world) has conducted a survey of International attitudes on terrorism and has released its new findings. From the perspective of global war on terrorism, the report revealed that the support for suicide bombing and Osama bin Laden has been dramatically reduced since 2002 in Muslim countries allied with the United States. In Indonesia, Turkey and Morocco, 15 percent or less of the population back suicide bombers, and in Lebanon, the number has almost halved, to 39 percent of those polled. Meanwhile, confidence in Osama bin Laden has also plunged in Indonesia, Morocco, Turkey and Lebanon, the support for democracy is rising throughout the Islamic world, Pew found. But, startlingly, the survey showed increase in the popularity in Pakistan; - of the man who masterminded the mass murders of Sept. 11. "Pakistan has seen increases in its population's already substantial backing for Osama (more than 50 percent support him, meaning about 75 million people". The Pew quoted.
The report smacks of biasness and lacks objectivity in measuring the valid and reliable attitudes of the people of Pakistan. Pakistan is emerging as a tolerant and moderate Muslim state. Majority of Pakistanis are moderate and appreciate the thesis of enlightened moderation propounded by President Gen Pervez Musharraf. However, very few are extremists sitting on the fringe of the bordering area. So, therefore, it is misconstrued by western media that the imprint of every major act of terrorism invariably passes through Pakistan. Pakistan consistently denies giving the militants any type of moral, diplomatic and political support. Pakistan condemns terrorism in its all forms and manifestations. Already, Pakistan has handed over as many as 700 al Qaeda operatives into US custody including some high value targets in the al Qaeda leadership such as Khaled Sheikh Mohammad, Abu Zubaydah, and recently Abu Faraj al-Libbi. About 70,000 Pakistani troops have been deployed on the bordering areas along side Afghanistan to contain Al-Qaeda element on the Western front. Pakistan Army coupled with the security forces had fought vigorously against foreign terrorists, who had taken shelter in the Waziristan area of the Federally-Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), losing nearly 230 officers and men. Most recently, Pakistan security forces have rounded up about 600 suspected militants and Islamic clerics in a week-long crackdown that followed the July 7 London attacks. Of those arrested, 295 belonged to militant groups banned by President Pervez Musharraf in the past three years. The remaining 300 detainees included clerics, mosque prayer leaders and others taken into custody for inciting anti-Western and sectarian hatred through sermons and provocative literature.
President General Pervez Musharraf's resolve to confront terrorism and extremism, is not adequately picked up by the western media especially survey organizations, rather they are dependent on the information of few NGOs already biased to the governmental efforts. The President has outlined a number of steps he intends to take, like setting of a December deadline for the registration of madrassas. Registration and careful monitoring may lead to some controls on funding and links with militant organizations. One thing that sparks controversy over Pakistan's selfless effort to curb terrorism is the dichotomous statements between the government and the ruling party. The President criticizes madrassas, the minister for religious affairs and the PML chief give them a clean chit. This indicates a sense of confusion at the highest levels. Some of it may be due to a difference of opinion between those who favour appeasement of religious parties as a way to neutralize them and those who want stronger action. It only gives wrong signals to the western societies - who often expect more from Pakistan on the war on terror. The President Gen. Pervez Musharraf has put a stop to the tide of hate-filled messages advocated by seminaries. Progress on Madrassa reform is difficult and dangerous, as raids on Madaris were pitting people against people, therefore, it may take a while.
Despite all positive efforts, it is regrettable the foreign media and key opinion-makers has refused to dislodge its venomous stance against the Government. Pakistan has made positive and substantive contribution in the fight against terrorism. It has paid the heavy price and has come a long way in rooting out the scourge of terrorism. Various research agencies must take a stock of the aspiration of the majority of the people of Pakistan who believe in democracy and civil liberties. Islam plays a greater role in politics and it is believed that's a good thing. Cautiousness is the right attitude to take toward the Pew findings. Nevertheless, we have to deal with the world as it is, not as we would like it to be. There is a lot of work left to be done.
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Mr Khokar are you sugesting Pew is biased against Pakistan?But its not biased against Turkey, Lebanon, Indonesia, Morocco and rest of the muslim world? Why the hell should it decide to get 'prejudiced' when it comes to Pakistan? Could it be that its findings are true? I think so. Just look at the articles on Paktribune, most are directed against the West.Many of writers seem to take pleasure in peeling the hypocracy of the West. OBL hardly gets any negative attention. Considering that Pakistan is in a mess, every day some innocent is tortured to death by Police but all our writers seem to be concerned about is death of Charles Mennez in London. We have a Mennenz happening in Pakistan every day, which of course non of our writers seem to think worth talking about.
How is the poor oppressed in Pakistan? Yet everybody is busy talking about Western oppression. The elite have the entire country intoxicated with the wrongs of West - After all that covers up whats being done to 10s of millions in Pakistan every day. Do we have justice in Pakistan? No, so should we not be sorting that out then babbling about whats happened in London or Washington, after all the millions of poor in our villages lead miserable lives which are not going to change one bit despite what happens in London or USA.
Rabid articles against the West are not going to change anything inside Pakistan. The principle inside Pakistan all poor and the weak know is 'Might is right' and then we have the galls to expect the West to drop its 'might is right'?
N. Khan, Pakistan	- 24 August, 2005
Washington, DC: Surprise has been expressed at the lack of reaction in the Muslim world at the impending demolition of the house of the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) by the Saudi authorities.
An op-ed article in Toronto Star, Canada's widely-circulated daily, by Tarek Fatah, a Pakistani-Canadian Muslim activist and broadcaster, finds it incomprehensible that while the demolition of the Babri Mosque by Hindu zealots at Ayodhya continues to remain an emotive issue with Muslims, what the Saudi authorities plan to do has evoked no protest at all.
Fatah writes, “What makes this demolition worse is the fact that the home of the Prophet is to make way for a parking lot, two 50-storey hotel towers and seven 35-storey apartment blocks; a project known as the Jabal Omar Scheme, all within a stone's throw of the Grand Mosque. Yet despite this outrage, not a single Muslim country, no ayatollah, no mufti, no king, not even a Muslim Canadian imam has dared utter a word in protest. Such is the power of Saudi influence on the Muslim narrative.”
The writer wonders if the lack of a response is because Muslims have become so overwhelmed by the power of the Saudi riyal that they have lost all courage and self-respect. Or is it because they feel a need to cover up Muslim-on-Muslim violence, Muslim-on-Muslim terror or Muslim-on-Muslim oppression? He notes that one man who is standing up to the demolition plan is Saudi architect Dr Sami Angawi, who is leading “a one-man campaign.” to save the sacred and historic edifice. He told a London newspaper, “The house where the Prophet received the word of God is gone and nobody cares ... this is the end of history in Mecca and Medina and the end of their future.”
According to Fatah, “The cultural massacre of Islamic heritage sites is not a new phenomenon. It is said that in the last two decades, 95 per cent of Mecca's 1,000-year-old buildings have been demolished. In the early 1920s, the Saudis bulldozed and leveled a graveyard in Medina that housed the graves of the family and companions of Muhammad. Today, the religious zealots in Saudi Arabia are not alone.
”Commercial developers have joined hands with them and are making hundreds of millions in profits as they build ugly, but lucrative high-rises that are shadowing the Grand Mosque known as the Kaaba. Today Saudi petrodollars have the ability to silence even its most vocal critics, but when all is said and done, history will render a harsh judgment on those who try to wipe out its footprints and steal the heritage of all humanity.”
ashah, Pakistan	- 29 August, 2005


Putting this on a recent thread here where it’s more likely to be seen in a quick fashion….
Several things just to update folks.
First, many thanks to all those who sent along research suggestions and offerings to be of assistance on the project I can’t talk about.
I’ve been swamped with deadlines and unable to reply to any of the public notes and private emails, but as soon as I can get my head above water, be assured that I’ll be in touch with many of you.
Second, as noted in the original thread before I hijacked it, yes, the plan at the moment is that I will be at Comic Con San Diego this year, primarily doing my thing on Thursday and Saturday afternoons.
There is a *chance* mind you, it’s just a slim chance but to be honorable I must mention it that a work situation *may* preclude my appearance there. Or it may not. I’ll know more by the end of next week, and for now as far as I know, everything’s on target for me to be at SDCC. If that changes, I’ll be sure to let everyone know as far in advance as possible.
One final note re: recent discussions on TMoS and more Lost Tales.
B5:TLT was commissioned at a $2 million budget to, yet one more time, “test the waters” for B5. We did what we could with that, and that was that. As we did with Rangers, which also suffered from not having a lot of money because of concerns about “is there really a B5 audience?” Which is, of course, a foolish question from a studio that has never really understood what it has in B5.
Of late, there have been more discussions from WB about doing more DVDs, again at a low cost, or a cable thing, again with minimal investment.
So for the last few months, I’ve been giving this whole subject a lot of quiet thought. And I’ve come to a conclusion.
B5 as a five year story stands beautifully on its own. If anything else is to be continued from that story, it should be something that adds to the legacy of B5, rather than subtracts from it.
As well intentioned as Rangers and TLT were, as enticing as it was to return to those familiar waters, in the end I think they did more to subtract from the legacy than add to it. I don’t regret having made them, because I needed to go through that to get to the point where I am now psychologically, but from where I sit now, I wouldn’t make them again.
So I’ve let everyone up here know that I’m not interested in doing any more low-budget DVDs. I’m not interested in doing any low-budget cable things or small computer games. The only thing I would be interested in doing regarding Babylon 5 from this point on is a full- featured, big-budget feature film.
It’s that or nothing.
And if it’s nothing, I’m totally cool with that because the original story stands on its own just fine. I’m not lobbying for it, I’m not asking fans to write in about it (nor should you) because such campaigns never really have much impact…that’s simply the position I’ve taken up here. Lord knows I don’t lack for other things to do these days. I’m busier on more prestige projects with terrific people and great film-makers than at any other time in my career.
At the end of the day, for me, it’s not just a matter of getting more B5. It’s a matter of getting more *good* B5 that respects what came before it and doesn’t have to compromise visually or in terms of action. The original show deserves better than that, the surviving cast members deserve better than that, and the fans who have supported it over the years definitely deserve better than that. A lot better.
So I’ve drawn that line in the sand, and I’m happy living on whichever side of that line the universe puts me. Just thought you should know, ‘cause it’s your show too.
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Rick says
well this sucks beyond words, the situation obviously, not his reasoning. he’s talking about getting more money out of a studio that makes the Harry Potter franchise to a profit of millions and yet it took them 5 hit films to FINALLY decide to split book 7 into two movies. the saddest part of all this is that the idiots at warner who decide these things don’t care if we liked Lost Tales or not, just that we paid them to see it.
Mike H (Stark in 2nd Life) says
I’m glad he chose quality over quantity. I loved getting a new taste of B5 with TLT, but he’s right. Better to end it than to run it into the ground with work that isn’t up to par with the original. Having said that though, here’s to a new big budget film sometime in the near future!
Mike Tuck says
I have mixed feelings about the recent post from JMS. On one hand, I’m sad that we will not get another “Lost Tales” DVD. While I didn’t like last year’s “Lost Tales” as much as you guys did, I still somewhat enjoyed having two new stories in the B5 universe (even though I thought that they were both mediocre) . I also had hopes for future DVD stories to be better, especially the much-talked about Garibaldi story which was to feature a lot more special effects and action. On the other hand, I have to agree somewhat with JMS’s decision not to make any more Lost Tales.
I think that The Lost Tales and LOTR were nowhere near as good as the best seasons of the B5 series and, therefore, I agree with JMS that they “Subtracted from the legacy”. However, I still don’t know that the reason that they were not as good has a whole lot to do with the lower budget as JMS suggested. After all, didn’t he and his crew produce some of the best science fiction television ever made on a shoestring budget week after week for five years?! I hate to slam JMS (whom I think is, usually, a great writer), but I think the problems with Lost Tales and LOTR being less than great lie mostly with the writer.
It seems to me that JMS lost his mojo after the fourth season of the series. I’ve been somewhat disappointed in everything B5-related that he has done AFTER season 4. I know the reasons why season 5 seemed directionless and uneventful: He was told by the distribution company that season 4 was the end and to finish it up, thus leaving season 5 stories seeming like an afterthought or an extremely extended and unnecessary epilogue to the main story. He also had SOME excuses for “Crusade” not being what it could have been – the creative “tug-of-war” between JMS and TNT hurt and killed the show before it had time to grow. But what was his excuse on “Legend of the Rangers”? As far as I know, he was given free reign by the Sci Fi Channel on that pilot, but he delivered a mediocre (at best) movie. Also, from what I read of the summary of the plot for the proposed feature film “The Memory of Shadows”, it didn’t sound like it would have been a home run either. And finally, last year’s Lost Tales was also disappointing and odd (for me, at least). The devil-in-human-guise story, while well-acted, seemed totally out-of-place for the B5 universe. Also, the Sheridan tale had some truly funny dialogue and was more B5-appropriate, but ultimately, seemed uneventful and unnecessary.
So, JMS hasn’t exactly been “hitting them out of the ballpark” since the end of season 4. It seems as if he has lost interest in Babylon 5 and only keeps making more stories to earn a paycheck or to try to satisfy hungry fans (maybe both). His heart doesn’t seem like it’s in it anymore. He pretty much said himself that he is satisfied with the completed 5-year story and doesn’t seem too interested in doing any more now that he is getting big-budget feature film jobs. MAYBE with a bigger budget he could tell a more epic story like we were accustomed to during the best seasons of B5, but that remains to be seen.
I know I will probably stir controversy with my comments, but I felt it had to be said. I was THE biggest fan of Babylon 5 during its best years and couldn’t wait to see the next episode every week, but I’m getting tired of being constantly disappointed with sub-par B5 stories. I want to get back the excitement and epic storytelling of seasons 3 and 4, or even the unexpected satisfaction from a handfull of good episodes from seasons one and two. But since 1998, all we seem to get is more “season 5 – level” stuff.
So, in conclusion, I suppose I have to agree somewhat with JMS on this. If you can’t tell a good or great story, then why bother at all? I don’t hold out much hope for a big-budget B5 feature film, as Warner Bros will not pony up the dough for one. They also wanted to re-cast the TMOS movie, and that doesn’t sit well with me either. I can’t see anyone else in these roles. I don’t really see the money coming from any other outside interests in the future without ultimately falling through like the “Memory of Shadows” deal. I hope that I am wrong. I would love to see a B5 feature film as long as it has the feel of seasons 3 and 4. On another tangent, it is UNFAIR that Joss Whedon can get a feature film made of a failed series that only aired for about 7 episodes before being canceled due to low ratings (“Firefly”/ “Serenity”), while JMS can’t get a feature film made of a low-rated (but much beloved) series that lasted for 5 years and 110 episodes!! It doesn’t make much sense to me. (Sorry, “Firefly” fans. I watched that show for 6 or 7 episodes, but hated it. ) In the end, I guess that Whedon has more pull in Hollywood than JMS does (although I don’t know why). Isn’t JMS having dinner with the big boys now? It also seems unfair that other low-rated cult favorites such as Stargate SG-1 and even Futurama will continue on making direct-to-DVD films, while B5 will simply fade away into obscurity. Unfortunately, it seems that B5 will always be just a footnote in science fiction history. Anyway, I will miss Babylon 5. I don’t think that there will ever be another sci-fi series that I will love as much as I loved it.
Neil Ottenstein says
The critical issue here, is what is Summer going to do with the podcast intro now?
Brad Bowyer says
When TLT was coming out he said that if WB was intertested and TLT does well then he has ideas for more TLT volumes. Now all of a sudden he changes his mind?
This is nothing but a slap in the face to fans. We bought the DVD, supported the franchise as best we can in the hope that we would get more content. Now he trashes the very thing we supported by saying it diluted the franchise?
Fine JMS … go and pout, take you ball and go home. You’ve pretty much just lost yourself a fan with an arrogant attitude like that. Why would we want to support any of your future projects? After all … you’ll just say they were crap down the road.
Brad Bowyer,
Brad, I fully understand your position. But, let’s take a look at WB’s “interest”. The videocassettes sold out when they were released. The DVD sets are perennial strong sellers. TLT has had strong sales. All this despite WB’s lack of effort in promotion and merchandising. The BestBuy event that Jeffrey covered only points out how disinterested WB is in the show.
Also recall that TLT was to be three interlocking stories, but budget constraints forced the elimination of what, by all accounts, was to be the most ambitious (read: expensive) story of the lot. That also indicates low interest on the part of WB. What more would JMS need to do to finally make WB understand what they have in their hands?
Mike, you are entitled to your opinion, and I’m glad you feel comfortable enough to share it here. I would point out that a shoestring budget for a 22-episode season for a series is still bigger than the shoestring budget for a one-off direct-to-DVD piece. The series budget allowed them to build interesting sets and locales; the TLT budget allowed them to build ten pillars that had to double for station and Minbari cruiser interiors. I’m thoroughly convinced the sock puppet thing was JMS’ arrow at WB – “you want cheap? Here’s cheap!”
Please, in no way construe my comments as a JMS apologist. The tone in his message is quite arrogant. I understand and accept his feelings about B5 as the creator; but I think he underestimates the fans’ emotions. I’d be happy with JMS approved novels (like for Crusade, in Valen’s name!). I don’t think LotR or TLT “tarnished” the legacy of B5 in any way. Were they great? No. But they certainly weren’t unwatchable.
You want tarnish, look at the last ten years of Star Trek offerings. That’s tarnish.
Neil – looks like Summer’s gonna have to re-record the intro AGAIN….
“When TLT was coming out he said that if WB was interested and TLT does well then he has ideas for more TLT volumes. Now all of a sudden he changes his mind?”
he changed his mind because he’s tired of trying to make quality product without proper financial support from Warner.
Colin says
My feelings were mixed at first but the more that I think about it the more upset I get. Frankly I feel like I just got smacked in the face be a man who has gotten plenty of my hard earned money over the years and you can bet that I will look twice before giving him anymore.
JMS has been stringing future Lost Tale info out since before th e the release of the first and now only installment. He has a point about legend of the Rangers but I don’t think his point with Lost Tales is valid sure it’s not as strong as the best of Babylon 5 but it’s far better then the worst of it so I don’t think you can say that it takes anything away as a hole. I think that it might add something to it. Had JMS come right out and said that he did not want to do anymore DVDs right after the release I would have understood but he went on about how another one was in the works and had even said that he wanted to try to get other people in to write in the future.
Now I understand that he is mad with WB for not stepping up and putting money behind it right now but why not try to get more money placed into a DVD start small and work up try to get say a 10,000,000 budget for the next one and then move up from there why is it a movie or nothing? This rings even more true given the current state of the economy, Paramount has had to pull back funding on Transformers and Star Trek which every one knows will pull in big money, and if big names like that are having problems what chance does Babylon 5 have?
The great maker had what I feel is a great mistake.
Paul Hahn says
“I know the reasons why season 5 seemed directionless and uneventful: He was told by the distribution company that season 4 was the end and to finish it up, thus leaving season 5 stories seeming like an afterthought or an extremely extended and unnecessary epilogue to the main story.”
This is an oft-repeated canard. The wrapping-up was done more by truncation than compression, so by and large the storylines in season 5 were the ones originally intended, and not tacked-on. If he had known he had a guaranteed fifth season, the fourth-season finale/cliffhanger would have been “Intersections in Real Time”, which ended up not that far from the end of the season the way things actually happened.
A far greater contributing factor to the lameness of early season 5 was jms losing all his notes for that half-season, at the same convention at which he tried unsuccessfully to get Claudia Christian to sign back on. Housekeeping trashed them, he tore the place apart looking for them (including dumpster-diving) to no avail, and he ended up having to reconstruct those storylines as best he could from memory. Suddenly losing Ivanova didn’t help either.
All this can be searched on jmsnews.com.
“Now all of a sudden he changes his mind? This is nothing but a slap in the face to fans.”
The real slap in the face to fans was Warner forcing him to do TLT on next to no budget, when the jms/B5 combo has proven itself a safe investment many times over. I heard plenty of fans complain about the limited scope of TLT, which was obviously a result of the lack of money. Arrogant? Hardly. In my view it was an admirable, honorable decision.
Over in rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated plenty of us have expressed disappointment, but not one that I recall has disagreed that this was the right decision.
I agree with Rick.
What some people don’t get is that the TLT ‘extras’ with the sock puppets were a rather pointed dig at WB. From what I’ve heard, when given the budget for TLT, JMS’s response was along the lines of “For that kind of money you can hire sock puppets, not actors.” At the panel at SDCC last year both JMS and Doug Netter said that any future Lost Tales would have to have a bigger budget.
JMS posted that before the writer’s strike WB started talking about another Lost Tales disk but refused to commission a script since they thought there’d never be a writer’s strike. From what I gathered at the Seattle con in May, there’ve been other meetings since the strike was settled.
Maybe to us the decision is sudden but it may be JMS’s way of telling them that he’s tired of having his time wasted and that B5 shouldn’t need to keep proving itself repeatedly.
I agree with Jan, Rick, and the Great Maker. If there was ever a time to go to WB and lay it all out, now is the time. They know how well the DVD’s have sold. We all know that JMS has other projects out there that are going to get the funding to make them great.
WB wants more Lost Tales. It’s time for them to put their money where their mouth is. B5 is a proven product. JMS is a proven product. I don’t want another rubber suit monster. More B5 if only we get proper funding so we can see what the show would have been like if they would have had a proper budge all long. Jerry Doyle has a nationally syndicated radio show. I think JD was supposed to be in the next set, right? JMS has plenty of projects on his table. Both guys probably both would love to do more B5, but it has to be worth our wild.
jerry doyle was supposed to be in the third, cancelled story-to be set on Mars. If memory serves, he was even under contract – until WB forced the story cut. His subsequent comments were rather curt and seemed to indicate that he was through with B5.
And i’ll also point out, to all those who have given their hard-earned money to JMS, he’s hardly grown fat and lazy on that income.
vakie says
All you people claiming JMS ‘changed’ his mind, seem to forget or simply missed what he was saying all along after TLT came out: that if there is to be more TLT, it will have to be at a bigger budget or they won’t do it, because what they had to work with was simply not enough. Frankly, even the CGI people worked overtime without pay to get things right, just because they were B5 fans.
So this is not a huge surprise to me, because this possibility came to mind when I heard that. I just hoped those people at WB wouldn’t be total mental cases and they would see the light, but I guess not. This is all on WB, not JMS.
And yeah, the whole sock puppet thing came from the moment WB told him what kind of budget he would have to work with. JMS replied, “for that kind of money I can do it with sock puppets, but not real actors.”
Brandon Atkinson says
Hey all greetings from Canada.
I agree with many here, WB screwed JMS over royally… Yeah they want more lost tales stuff but now it’s time to
(you certainly got enough out of me with the DVD set’s before the huge price drops! seasons 1-4 between $100 Canadian Dollars and $150! Season 5 was $65 (right after Andreas Katsulas died, to put my purchases in to context) and the movie box was around $80, TLT was $40, haven’t bought Rangers yet (might not since Scifi messed that up quite spectacularly!))…
At the very least double the budget (triple would help greatly).
however, WB doesn’t get B5 whatsoever… they never have. And so its time for JMS to move on, perhaps somone from MGM (Stargate SG-1, Atlantis, and many other shows i forget right now)is reading about this…
THEY KNOW HOW TO TO STUFF PROPERLY!
Alas, JMS has said that MGM is the worst he’s ever worked with, and would never work with them again.
He worked with them on Jeremiah, and apparently hated the experience (with MGM, not with Jeremiah).
G'Kwal says
So I’ll keep looking forward. At least some comics or canonized books would be nice, as I don’t think, that someone would pay for a movie.
But should a movie will come, about anything of babylon with JMS and some of the old crew, I’ll see it in the first weekend for getting the quota up (and I hate this crowding absolutely)
Brother Ambrose says
I got the feeling that this was not a total surprise to the Vorlon, and it did not surprise me, either. JMS and his ego could only handle being ignored for so long. Since he is now garnering attention from other aspects in his creative output, he would naturally want to apportion his time there. I, too, was disappointed at the Lost Tales DVD but kept quiet about it in hopes of its being the beginning of a steadily improving series.
JMS, as a creator, probably saw it as the first and the lowest rung on the journey of making the Lost Tales. He imagined that the next one would be better in every respect. (Wouldn’t you?) When the hoped-for support from the studio did not come, he probably imagined that he and it would be stuck in this low-budget DVD world for a long time. This level is very close to the world of fan-based production, which in most cases is relegated to sector not by for by profit. He would not be comfortable in this, and what career writer or producer would? So he cut himself off.
However, as a writer, he could have expressed himself better if he intended that fans could step in, a la Paramount and Star Trek. He concluded with “’cause it’s your show too.” This would seem to be inconsistent with the “closed door” attitude of the rest of his message. I think it’s easy to read arrogance into this post, but I suspect that arrogance is only one side of his three edged sword. It seems that the Great Maker still enjoys being cryptic, and so we must wait.
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For other places with the same name, see Hopewell, Virginia (disambiguation).
Hopewell is an independent city surrounded by Prince George County and the Appomattox River in the Commonwealth of Virginia. As of the 2010 census, the population was 22,591.[5] The Bureau of Economic Analysis combines the city of Hopewell with Prince George County for statistical purposes.
City of Hopewell
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Hopewell is in the Tri-Cities area of the Richmond Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA).
City PointEdit
Main article: City Point, Virginia
The city was founded to take advantage of its site overlooking the James and Appomattox Rivers. City Point, the oldest part of Hopewell, was established in 1613 by Sir Thomas Dale. It was first known as "Bermuda City," which was changed to Charles City, lengthened to Charles City Point, and later abbreviated to City Point. (At this time, Bermuda, the Atlantic archipelago, was considered part of the Colony of Virginia and appeared on its maps.) Hopewell/City Point is the oldest continuously inhabited English settlement in the United States, Jamestown no longer being inhabited.
"Charles City Point" was in Charles City Shire when the first eight shires were established in the Colony of Virginia in 1634. Charles City Shire soon became known as Charles City County in 1637. In 1619 Samuel Sharpe and Samuel Jordan from City Point, then named Charles City, were burgesses at the first meeting of the House of Burgesses.
The burgesses separated an area of the county south of the river, including City Point, establishing it separately as Prince George County in 1703. City Point was an unincorporated town in Prince George County until the City of Hopewell annexed the Town of City Point in 1923.
During the American Civil War, Union General Ulysses S. Grant used City Point as his headquarters during the Siege of Petersburg in 1864 and 1865. Grant's headquarters, which President Lincoln visited, were located at Appomattox Manor, one of the three plantations of Richard Eppes, who cultivated wheat and other grains and held 130 slaves at the beginning of the war.[6][7][dead link]
His property included most of the present day city of Hopewell and Eppes Island, a plantation across the James River from City Point. Richard Slaughter, a former slave of Eppes, escaped to a Union ship during the Civil War,[8] as did all but 12 of Eppes' 130 slaves, choosing freedom.[7] Slaughter recounted his life story for a Works Progress Administration interviewer in 1936.[8]
The City Point Railroad, built in 1838 between City Point and Petersburg, was used as a critical part of the siege strategy. It is considered the oldest portion of the Norfolk and Western Railway, now a part of Norfolk Southern.
Hopewell Quaker originsEdit
Samuel Janney in his "History of Friends," says, "Alexander Ross about the year 1732, having obtained a grant for One hundred thousand acres of land in the Colony of Virginia, situated near Opequan Creek a tributary of the Potomac; a settlement was soon after begun there by Alexander Ross, Josiah Ballenger, James Wright, Evan Thomas and other Friends from Pennsylvania, and Elk River in Maryland. Under authority of Chester Quarterly Meeting they established in 1744 a Monthly Meeting, called Hopewell, which thus became a branch of Phila. Yearly Meeting." 10 acres was deeded to the Quakers April 2, 1751 for a Meeting House which afterwards became "Hopewell." This deed of 1751 is the first appearance of the Quakers in the old County. However, it is possible that the Hopewell described by Janney as a Virginia Quaker settlement is actually to the northwest of the Hopewell which is the subject of this entry.[9] The Hopewell Friends Meeting House (Frederick County, Virginia) describes the Janney settlement.
Hopewell FarmEdit
Hopewell, part of the Eppes' plantation, was developed by DuPont Company in 1914 as Hopewell Farm, an incorporated area in Prince George County. DuPont first built a dynamite factory there, then switched to the manufacture of guncotton during World War I.
Nearly burned to the ground in the Hopewell Fire of 1915, the city prospered afterward and became known as the "Wonder City" as the village of Hopewell grew from a hamlet of 400 in 1916 to a city of more than 20,000 people in a few short months. Unlike most cities in Virginia, Hopewell was never incorporated as a town, but it was incorporated as an independent city in 1916.
After DuPont abandoned the city following World War I, moving its manufacturing facilities elsewhere and specializing in other products, Hopewell briefly became a ghost town until 1923 when Tubize Corporation established a plant on the old DuPont site. The same year, the city of Hopewell annexed the neighboring town of City Point, which enabled it to expand and thrive. The Tubize plant was later acquired by Firestone Tire and Rubber Company and was a major employer in Hopewell for decades. Allied Chemical and Dye Corporation and Hercules Chemical also established plants on portions of the old DuPont site.
20th century populaceEdit
As early as its incorporation, Hopewell was a city of industrious migrants. Immigrants from Bohemia (now the western lands of the Czech Republic),[10] Italy, and Greece[11] populated the city, working in factories and opening small businesses. Others migrated from other parts of Virginia and neighboring states of North Carolina and West Virginia to work in Hopewell's industries.
As was the case in most southern cities, African Americans in Hopewell were subject to Jim Crow segregation until the success of the Civil Rights Movement. The picturesque theater in the middle of town, the Beacon Theater, only allowed Blacks in the balcony.[12] In August 1966, the Ku Klux Klan confronted the Reverend Curtis Harris and other Black Hopewell citizens when they attempted to petition the city manager to find an alternate location for a landfill that was going to be opened in the middle of a Black neighborhood.[13][14] Hopewell public schools were desegregated under court order in 1963, following Renee Patrice GILLIAM et al v. School Board of the City of Hopewell, Virginia.[15]
1935 bus tragedyEdit
Hopewell made national news when, on December 22, 1935, a bus plunged through the open draw of the Appomattox River Drawbridge on State Route 10 just outside Hopewell's city limits. Only one of the 15 occupants of the bus survived. The modern twin spans of the Charles Hardaway Marks Bridges were built to replace that bridge and cross the river nearby.
Urban renewalEdit
Like many cities, Hopewell embarked on an urban renewal plan in the 1960s in an attempt to revitalize its downtown retail area. The plan was a failure because many of the retail businesses that had been located downtown moved elsewhere to new shopping centers being developed outside the city limits in Petersburg, Chester, and Prince George County.
However, a new urbanization is occurring and many long vacant storefronts are now refurbished and occupied. Several others are now under construction. Further, the City invested $12 million in a new beautiful state of the art flagship library for the busy Appomattox Regional Library System, the Maude Langhorne Nelson Library. The Library has a cyber cafe, extensive YA and children's collections, and a replica of the historic, 1600s-era frigate ship, Hopewell, installed as a centerpiece.[16][17] The City also restored the Beacon Theater, which was built in 1928, and there are 70 or more concerts and other events annually. Some performers in the past two years have been The Temptations, The Four Tops, Vince Gill, Travis Tritt, Clint Black, Amy Grant, The Average White Band, Vanilla Ice, The Commodores, Pure Prairie League, Delbert McClinton, and many more. New plantings and street beautification projects have been put into place, to attract more businesses and shoppers to the East Broadway area.
Recent historyEdit
Smokestacks rise from Hopewell's skyline
Hopewell is located at the confluence of two historic rivers, the Appomattox and the James. From many points in the city, beautiful views of the rivers or the tidal marshes are seen. The river access makes the area popular with waterfowl hunters and freshwater fisherman; it is particularly known for excellent catfishing.[18][19]
Hopewell is the location of several large chemical plants owned by the Honeywell Corporation, Ashland, Evonik Industries, as well as a Green Plains Inc. ethanol plant and paper mill owned by WestRock. Such industries have required the city and residents to deal with many environmental issues over the years, particularly as they learned more about the effects of the industries. The Kepone debacle of the 1970s received the most national attention.
Kepone (or Chlordécone) was an insecticide produced by Allied Signal Company and LifeSciences Product Company in Hopewell. The improper handling and dumping of the substance into the nearby James River in the 1960s and 1970s drew national attention to its toxic effects on wildlife. As a result of the contamination the James River from Richmond to the Chesapeake Bay was closed to fishing for over a decade. The product was similar to DDT and is a degradation product of Mirex. In 2009, Kepone was included in the Stockholm Convention on Persistent Organic Pollutants, which banned its production and use worldwide.
The Federal Correctional Complex, Petersburg (FCC Petersburg), two federal prisons which house 3400 inmates, are located just outside the Hopewell city limits, in Prince George County[20][21]
In 1977, Hopewell again made the national news due to another accident involving a drawbridge when the tanker S.S. Marine Floridian outbound under the command of a James River pilot suffered a steering malfunction just after dawn on February 24 that caused it to veer out of the channel and hit the Benjamin Harrison Memorial Bridge just east of town. The accident caused serious damage to the bridge and it was closed for months.
In 1983, Hopewell again received negative publicity from the national news media when it was discovered that Evelyn Rust Wells, an elderly woman, had been held captive and terrorized in her home in the City Point section. Her captors, mostly male teenagers under 18, cashed her Social Security checks at local grocery stores. A local grocer noted a change in purchases from when neighborhood kids assisted Wells, and called the police. They investigated and freed Wells who was by then severely malnourished.[22]
Although still an important industrial city, Hopewell has struggled with transitions through loss of jobs due to plant closures, changes in residential housing patterns, and the costs of environmental clean-up. Much of its middle class population moved to neighboring Prince George and Chesterfield Counties for newer housing during the suburban expansion of the 1960s and 1970s. The city's housing stock is dominated by relatively small homes with a significant percentage being offered as rental properties. Of these, many were hastily constructed over a century ago by DuPont to house plant workers during the First World War.
Hopewell has encouraged re-development along its waterfront areas along the James and Appomattox Rivers, in the downtown area, and the City Point Historic District, as well as the sites of several long vacant industrial plants. Due to its hasty construction as a mill town during the First World War, Hopewell had a large number of kit homes that were hauled in and erected in neighborhoods laid out by DuPont known as "A Village" and "B Village". The city has a surviving group of Sears Catalog Homes, with several available for exterior viewing on a self-guided tour. The city also has numerous Aladdin Kit Homes; at one time, it may have had the most such homes in the nation. Because residents moved to newer houses and the Aladdin Homes were abandoned and deteriorated, many have been razed.[citation needed]
Since 1994, Hopewell has been twinned with Ashford, Kent, U.K.[citation needed]
In late 2012, press reports indicated the city had the highest rate of violent crime on a per capita basis in the state.[23]
The former Hopewell High School, listed on the National Register of Historic Places, was renovated from 2009-2010 and now serves as an apartment building.
In September 2010, a series of explosions occurred at a controversial new ethanol plant that had recently been constructed on a long vacant site formerly occupied by a Firestone plant. In 2007, former Hopewell Mayor and civil rights leader Curtis W. Harris, had marched against the proposed ethanol plant being built in Hopewell with support from the national Southern Christian Leadership Conference.[24] The plant had not yet become fully operational when the explosions occurred. There was no loss of life due to the accident but shortly after the explosion Osage BioEnergy, the owners of the $150 million facility, announced that the plant was for sale. Although the facility was sitting idle through 2013 with the city of Hopewell taking legal action to recoup unpaid taxes on the property, the facility was eventually purchased by another firm and operations were restarted in 2014.[25] In 2015 the troubled ethanol plant closed again for a second time after less than a year in operation with its owners citing a lack of profitability as the reason for the shutdown.[26] The plant has since been purchased and re-opened by Green Plains Inc. of Omaha, Nebraska.
Hopewell has come to the attention of AAA because some of its members have complained that Hopewell is a speed trap for its practice of citing drivers for speeding along a 1.7 mile stretch of Interstate 295, nicknamed the "Million Dollar Mile" by disgruntled drivers. AAA, claimed in a press release that Hopewell employs 11 sheriff's deputies working in 14-hour shifts to patrol less than two miles of the highway that lie within the city limits of Hopewell. However, this statistic has been denied by the sheriff of Hopewell, who was baffled as to where that information was generated as he said the deputies working on I-295 only work eight-hour shifts.[27] This practice, which it has been claimed, annually generated $1.8 million in revenue from speeding tickets, of which 75% were issued to out of state drivers, triggered a court clash between the Commonwealth's Attorney and the city prosecutor, and elicited an official ruling from the Attorney General of Virginia.[28] Sheriff Luther Sodat said that the almost two-mile stretch of highway "is a safety issue for Hopewell."[27] Virginia's urban interstates have a fatality rate about one-third the Statewide rate for all roads combined.[29][30]
According to the United States Census Bureau, the city has a total area of 10.8 square miles (28.0 km2), of which 10.2 square miles (26.4 km2) are land and 0.5 square miles (1.3 km2) (4.9%) is water.[31]
Climate data for Hopewell, Virginia (1980-2010)
Average high °F (°C)
(8.8) 51.2
(29.7) 89
Average low °F (°C)
(−2.7) 28.8
Average precipitation inches (mm)
(110) 4.5
Source: USA.com[32]
NeighborhoodsEdit
City Point – annexed in 1923
City Point National Cemetery
Chesterfield County, Virginia - north
Prince George County, Virginia - east, south, west
Charles City County, Virginia - northeast
Petersburg National Battlefield Park (part)
1930 11,327 710.8%
1950 10,219 17.7%
1980 23,397 −0.3%
Est. 2017 22,621 [2] 0.1%
1790-1960[34] 1900-1990[35]
1990-2000[36] 2010-2012[5]
As of the census[37] of 2000, there were 22,354 people, 9,055 households, and 6,075 families residing in the city. The population density was 2,182.3 people per square mile (842.9/km²). There were 9,749 housing units at an average density of 951.7 per square mile (367.6/km²). The racial makeup of the city was 47.1% White, 43.5% Black, 0.8% Asian, 0.4% Native American, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 1.2% from other races, and 1.8% from two or more races. 3.7% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.
There are 9,055 households, out of which 32.1% have children under the age of 18 living with them, 40.6% were married couples living together, 21.2% had a female householder with no husband present, and 32.9% were non-families. 27.6% of all households were made up of individuals and 11.2% had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 2.43 and the average family size was 2.94.
The age of the population is spread out, with 26.7% under the age of 18, 9.1% from 18 to 24, 28.6% from 25 to 44, 21.0% from 45 to 64, and 14.6% who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 35 years. For every 100 females, there are 87.7 males. For every 100 women aged 18 and over, there were 82.2 men.
The median income for a household in the city was $39,156, and the median income for a family was $49,730. Males had a median income of $34,849 versus $25,401 for females. The per capita income for the city was $21,041. About 15.8% of families and 17.73% of the population were below the poverty line, including 21.6% of those under age 18 and 10.4% of those age 65 or over.
The following are schools in the Hopewell, Virginia school division.
High schoolEdit
Hopewell High School
Middle schoolEdit
Carter G. Woodson School
Elementary schoolsEdit
Dupont Elementary School
Harry E. James Elementary School
Patrick Copeland Elementary School
All of the schools above are accredited by the Virginia Board of Education and by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools. Hopewell City Schools consistently rank near the bottom of the state in Standards of Learning (SOL) scores, graduation rates, and student discipline.
Charter and technologyEdit
Appomattox Regional Governor's School for the Arts And Technology Petersburg, VA, Open to students entering the 9th grade, with approval of passing through the admittance process.
LibrariesEdit
Appomattox Regional Library serves as the library system for Hopewell, Virginia.
Notable peopleEdit
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Nelson Barclift, choreographer and dancer, was born in Hopewell.[38]
Sam Bass, artist, graduated from Hopewell High School.[39]
Robert Bolling, American settler and planter, and his wife, Jane Rolfe, lived at Kippax Plantation, in what was then Prince George County, in the 17th Century.[40]
Samuel Face, American inventor, was born in City Point.[41]
Peter Francisco, soldier in the American Revolutionary War, found abandoned on the docks at City Point[42]
William Haines, actor and interior designer, ran a dance hall in Hopewell in 1914 while in his early teens.[43][44]
Curtis W. Harris, minister, civil rights activist, 1st African-American mayor of Hopewell[45]
Steven R. Taylor, Politician, was a previous mayor of Hopewell[46]
Dorothiea Hundley (aka Seka), adult film actress, attended Hopewell High School.[citation needed]
Charles Hardaway Marks, Virginia politician, was born in Hopewell.[47]
Monsanto Pope, former defensive tackle for the Denver Broncos
Rebecca Beach Smith, Chief Judge of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia
MediaEdit
The Hopewell News, locally managed and operated by HPC Media, was an 8,000 circulation twice-weekly newspaper that covers local news, sports and events of interest to the communities of Hopewell, Enon and Prince George. [2] For more than 90 years, The Hopewell News served the greater Hopewell and Prince George communities. The paper was shut down on Jan. 18, 2018. HPC Media also published the News-Patriot newspaper covering Colonial Heights and communities in Southeastern Chesterfield County.
The climate in this area is characterized by hot, humid summers and generally mild to cool winters. According to the Köppen Climate Classification system, Hopewell has a humid subtropical climate, abbreviated "Cfa" on climate maps.[48]
2016 43.1% 3,885 52.4% 4,724 4.4% 399
2008 43.6% 4,149 55.5% 5,285 0.9% 90
1992 47.5% 3,818 35.6% 2,863 16.9% 1,361
1948 28.8% 570 62.7% 1,242 8.5% 169
1920 29.5% 41 69.8% 97 0.7% 1
1916 10.7% 3 85.7% 24 3.6% 1
National Register of Historic Places listings in Hopewell, Virginia
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^ "Appomattox Regional Library System Historic Newspapers -- Microfilm Image Viewer". appomattoxcl.archivalweb.com. Retrieved 3 April 2018.
^ Making the American Dream Work : A Cultural History of African Americans in Hopewell, Virginia, Lauranett L. Lee (auth), Hampton, Va. : Morgan James Pub., 2008
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^ Interview with Curtis Harris http://dig.library.vcu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/voices/id/4
^ "332 F.2d 460 - Renee Patrice GILLIAM and Reuben Lemuel Gilliam, Jr., infants, by Reuben L. Gilliam and Joy T. Gilliam, their father and mother and next friends, et al., Appellees, v. SCHOOL BOARD OF the CITY OF HOPEWELL, VIRGINIA, and Charles W. Smith, Division Superintendent of Schools of the City of Hopewell, Virginia, and E. J. Oglesby, Alfred L. Wingo and E. T. Justis, constituting the Pupil Placement Board of the Commonwealth of Virginia, Appellants". www.freelawreporter.org. Archived from the original on 2018-04-04. Retrieved 3 April 2018.
^ Institute of Museum and Library Services, 2014 ARLS "Archived copy". Archived from the original on 2016-11-04. Retrieved 2016-11-09. CS1 maint: Archived copy as title (link)
^ Official Website of the City of Hopewell http://hopewellva.gov/library/
^ See Tidal River Blue Catfish https://www.dgif.virginia.gov/waterbody/james-river-tidal/
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Kobach has asked Schmidt to rule on whether a new state law allowing concealed carry in most public buildings applies to polling places on Election Day.
Throughout the state, polling sites are often situated in places where guns are not usually allowed, such as churches, schools, universities and charity organizations.
“We’ve invited the attorney general to weigh in before we issue any guidance to the counties,” Kobach said.
As a general rule, guns have been prohibited from polling places to prevent voter intimidation or interference with elections, Kobach said.
He said now there’s “some ambiguity in the law” over whether Kansas polling places – rented or borrowed by counties just for election days – would be considered “leased” property under the concealed-carry law.
If they are, the law mandates that licensed gun owners must be allowed to carry their weapons on the premises, unless the county files a detailed security plan for each site and provides protective measures such as metal detectors and guards to run them.
Brad Bryant, elections director in the Secretary of State’s Office, said it would be impractical to try to provide that level of security.
“Counties aren’t going to buy all that equipment to use for one day,” he said.
Bryant updated election commissioners and county clerks from throughout the state on the issue during a Kansas Association of Counties convention in Wichita last week.
“Our understanding right now is that a building, a facility, that is owned or leased by a municipality, including for a polling place, would be subject to the (concealed carry) law,” he said. “When you lease a private property, it becomes a municipal property on Election Day, that’s our understanding.”
Bryant said the request for an attorney general’s opinion has a series of detailed questions about the legal status of properties used for polling places and if it matters whether the county pays to use the site or gets it for free.
He said the office is also asking whether it makes any difference if there’s a written contract or just a verbal agreement allowing use of the property.
Public officials usually request an attorney general’s opinion on legal questions that have not been decided by a court. The opinions don’t carry the force of law but can be used as guidance by agencies until an issue is tested.
Weapons in polling places has been an issue that has flared periodically in other states. Nationally, there have been numerous charges of voter intimidation from both sides of the political spectrum because of advocates stationing themselves at and around polling places carrying weapons and/or wearing security uniforms.
Kobach said if someone displays or brandishes a weapon at a Kansas polling site, they could be prosecuted under other laws banning voter intimidation.
Two state legislators who attended Bryant’s speech said the idea of guns at the polls is unsettling, even if they aren’t openly displayed.
“That’s scary,” said Sen. Oletha Faust-Goudeau, D-Wichita, the ranking minority member on the Senate elections committee. “We really are going back to the Wild Wild West.”
Rep. Tom Sawyer of Wichita, ranking Democrat on the House elections committee, said he foresees difficulties in finding adequate polling sites if weapons have to be allowed.
He predicted some churches and nonprofit groups that open their property for voting sites in Sedgwick County may have second thoughts if they have to allow guns in their buildings.
“It’s hard enough as it is to come up with a building that’s going to be open all day and that’s handicapped-accessible,” he said.
Sedgwick County doesn’t use school buildings for polling places, although many counties in Kansas do. Most local polling stations are in churches – and they appear to be split on the question of guns in their buildings.
If the ruling is that guns have to be allowed, Grace Presbyterian Church would have to talk about it in a meeting of the Session, the church’s governing body, said Martin Burch, executive pastor.
The church serves as a polling place for the Crown Heights area of east Wichita.
“We wouldn’t just automatically continue,” Burch said. “I don’t know how that decision would go.”
First Mennonite Brethren Church, which serves as a polling place in northwest Wichita, probably wouldn’t have a problem with concealed carry on Election Day, said executive pastor John Oelze.
“We’d still welcome the polling place either way, I’m sure,” he said.
Sedgwick County Commissioner Richard Ranzau, a leading local proponent of gun rights, said he doesn’t think concealed-carry permit holders would cause problems at the polls.
But he said he’d be uncomfortable forcing private institutions whose property is occasionally used for a public purpose to accept guns in their buildings if they don’t want them there.
“I’m not sure that the law would apply to those,” he said.
The law is intended for “when we lease buildings and put people in them for a long time,” he said.
He said he hopes the concealed-carry law can be clarified with regard to polling sites before the 2014 elections in August and November.
“Obviously in general I support the law,” he said. But, he added, the polling-place issue “is something that is going to have to be sorted out at the state level.”
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Coast Guard boat overturns off NYC, crew safe
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A Fire Rescue vessel passes a Coast Guard vessel that has overturned Thursday, Feb. 25, 2016, in the Queens borough of New York. Authorities say the Coast Guard vessel overturned while assisting a fishing boat that ran aground in an inlet off New York City. (AP Photo/Frank Franklin II)

NEW YORK (AP) — Authorities say a Coast Guard vessel overturned while assisting a fishing boat that ran aground off New York City.
Five Coast Guard crew members and seven fishermen escaped without serious injury during the incident early Thursday off the Rockaway Peninsula in Queens.
The Coast Guard crew members, wearing protective gear, swam to shore. A helicopter with a rescue basket was used to lift fishermen to safety.
Coast Guard spokeswoman Ali Flockerzi says an overnight storm may have been a factor. She says the 25-foot Coast Guard boat was hit by 10 to 12 foot waves.
The Coast Guard got a distress call at 2 a.m. from the 76-foot fishing boat, the Carolina Queen III. The fishing boat initially was taking on water. Its crew got that under control, then ran aground. The boat eventually came to rest in shallow water just off the beach.
This story has been corrected to show that the rescue occurred on the Atlantic side of the Rockaway Peninsula and not in an inlet.