A threaded tubular connection comprising: a pin, the pin having external threads, a pin seal surface, and a pin torque shoulder at a free end; and a box (120, 120') for receiving the pin, the box (120, 120') having internal threads for interacting with the external threads, a box seal surface for contacting the pin seal surface, and a box torque shoulder for contacting the pin torque shoulder, the pin seal surface being axially spaced apart from the pin torque shoulder; the pin and box (120, 120') defining a longitudinal axis, the pin torque shoulder having a first pin shoulder surface and a second pin shoulder surface, the first pin shoulder surface intersecting an axis perpendicular to the longitudinal axis at a first angle, the second pin shoulder surface intersecting the perpendicular axis at a second angle, the first pin shoulder surface and the second pin shoulder surface meeting at a pin vertex, and the box torque shoulder having a first box shoulder surface and a second box shoulder surface, the first box shoulder surface intersecting an axis perpendicular to the longitudinal axis at a third angle, the second box shoulder surface intersecting the perpendicular axis at a fourth angle, the first box shoulder surface and the second box shoulder surface meeting at a box vertex, the first pin shoulder surface and the first box shoulder surface being top torque shoulder surfaces and the second pin shoulder surface and the second box shoulder surface being bottom torque shoulder surfaces, characterized in that the pin torque shoulder geometry is not complementary with the box torque shoulder geometry and a gap is present between the pin vertex and the box vertex after makeup of the threaded connection. a pin, the pin having external threads, a pin seal surface, and a pin torque shoulder at a free end; and a box (120, 120') for receiving the pin, the box (120, 120') having internal threads for interacting with the external threads, a box seal surface for contacting the pin seal surface, and a box torque shoulder for contacting the pin torque shoulder, the pin seal surface being axially spaced apart from the pin torque shoulder; the pin and box (120, 120') defining a longitudinal axis, the pin torque shoulder having a first pin shoulder surface and a second pin shoulder surface, the first pin shoulder surface intersecting an axis perpendicular to the longitudinal axis at a first angle, the second pin shoulder surface intersecting the perpendicular axis at a second angle, the first pin shoulder surface and the second pin shoulder surface meeting at a pin vertex, and the box torque shoulder having a first box shoulder surface and a second box shoulder surface, the first box shoulder surface intersecting an axis perpendicular to the longitudinal axis at a third angle, the second box shoulder surface intersecting the perpendicular axis at a fourth angle, the first box shoulder surface and the second box shoulder surface meeting at a box vertex, the first pin shoulder surface and the first box shoulder surface being top torque shoulder surfaces and the second pin shoulder surface and the second box shoulder surface being bottom torque shoulder surfaces, characterized in that the pin torque shoulder geometry is not complementary with the box torque shoulder geometry and a gap is present between the pin vertex and the box vertex after makeup of the threaded connection.