Improvements in "Try-guns."
Year: 1892

page_text: Date of Application, 27th Feb.. 1892
Complete Specification Left, 9th Dec., 1892--Accepted, 25th Feb., 1893
PROVISIONAL SPECIFICATION.
Improvements in "Try-guns."
I, WALTER FIELDS PADDISON, of 33 Dewhurst Road, Brook Green,
Hammersmith, in the County of Middlesex, Gunmaker, do hereby declare the
nature of this invention to be as follows:-
:-
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This invention relates to improvements in what are known as "try-guns," and
which are employed to enable persons to adjust the bend of the stock in relation
to the barrel and also the cast-on or the cast-off of such stock in relation thereto,
and further to adjust the length and shape of the stock itself, until the "try-gun
suits them, when a gun can. be made the stock of which will have a similar bent
and cast-on or cast-off, and be of the size and form to which these parts have
been adjusted in the "try-gun."
as a
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.
The objects of the invention are to so improve the construction and arrangement
of the parts of this class of gun that while same can be fired (and not merely used
dummy "), at the same time the adjustment of the different parts will be
much more efficient, more particularly with regard to the cast-off or cast-on, and
the regulation of the form and size of the stock. Further by my improvements I
am able to make the try-gun much lighter than hitherto, so that same will be as
nearly as possible the same weight and balance as the gun it is desired to have
made.
I pivot the stock to the barrels just at or as close as possible to the face of the
action, such pivot being vertical so as to permit of the requisite amount of
adjustment for the cast-on or cast-off. By placing the pivot at this point I am
able to give the cast-on or cast-off just where the sight is taken from, and which is
the most desirable point for the purpose. The action or firing mechanism of the
gun moves with the barrels, while the triggers move with the stock, so that unless
proper provision is made, when the stock is turned in relation to the barrels the
trigger on one side will no longer engage the sear arm. In order to prevent this
each sear arm is jointed in its length and the engagement of the trigger therewith
is such that it causes such jointed part of the sear arm to bend in relation to the
other part, when the stock is turned, and the proper engagement of the two parts
therefore remains undisturbed.
In the case of drop down guns the locking lever which is mounted on the under
side of the barrels is engaged by a spring which can turn round the pivot
connecting the barrels and the stock, so that the relative movements of the latter
do not interfere with such lever and its spring.
The horizontal pivot for enabling the bend of the stock in relation to the
barrels to be adjusted, is preferably arranged near the fore end of the stock just at
the rear of the triggers.
Any suitable means may be employed for shifting the stock in relation to the
barrels, both for the cast-on or cast-off and for the bend, and for fixing such parts
in the position to which they have been adjusted.
A suitable way of doing this with regard to the cast-off and cast-on, consists in
the use of screws on opposite sides of the vertical pivot, such screws working
through the sides of the breech and their inner ends bearing on the head of the
stock, so that by loosening the screw on one side or other the stock can be turned
on the pivot, and by then tightening up the other screw the stock will be secured
in the position to which it has been shifted.
For the adjustment of the "bend," an arm carried by the strap of the action
may extend back beyond the horizontal pivot and work in a recess in the rear part
of the stock, such extension being screw threaded so as to form a nut through

page_text: which works a screw carried by the rear part of the stock, so that by turning the
screw the two parts of the stock will be turned in relation to each other on the
pivot connecting them.
For adjusting the cheek of the stock, such check is made separate from the rest
of the stock, the line of division being in a slanting direction to the length, and
the two parts being hinged together at the bottom towards the rear of the stock,
while the front end of the cheek has a projection which enters a corresponding
recess in the lower part of the stock, and the rear end of which lower part has a
projection which enters a corresponding recess in the cheek. A screw passes
through one part and engages a nut carried by the other part, so that by turning
the screw in one direction or the other the two parts will by turning on their hinge
be adjusted in relation to each other.
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So as to enable the length of the stock to be adjusted the heel plate, is made
movable, a projection on its upper end entering a recess in the cheek of the stock,
and through such projection passes a screw which engages a nut in the bottom of
such recess, so that by turning 'the screw in one direction or the other the heel
plate will be moved in relation to the cheek. The lower part of the heel plate
is preferably made so that its curvature can be adjusted as desired, and for
this purpose such lower part is composed of two, three or more separate pieces of
wood, the outer surface of which is covered with a single strip of leather or other
suitable material connecting the whole of such separate pieces, and which strip of
leather is secured to the upper part of the heel plate. A flat spring is also
connected to the top piece of the heel plate and runs along the top of the lower
movable pieces of same. Each of the pieces mentioned has preferably a projection
on its front side which enters a recess in the check, and through such projections
passes a screw which works through a nut carried by the bottom piece, and the
forward end of which screw bears against the projection before referred to on the
upper end of the heel plate, so that by turning the screw in the required direction
the separate pieces forming the bottom of the heel plate will be moved in relation
to each other and to the top part of such heel plate, the flexible connection formed
by the leather strip permitting such movement, and thereby allowing the curvature
of the heel plate to be adjusted.
Instead of making the lower pieces entirely separate from each other, they may
be left connected together by a thin strip of wood at their upper ends, providing
the requisite degree of flexibility is obtained.
Dated this 23rd day of February 1809
ALLISON BROS.,
Agents for the Applicant.
COMPLETE SPECIFICATION.
Improvements in "Try-guns."
I, WALTER FIELDS PADDISON, of 33 Dewhurst Road, Brook Green,
Hammersmith, in the County of Middlesex, Gunmaker, do hereby declare the
nature of this invention, and in what manner the same is to be performed, to be
particularly described and ascertained in and by the following statement :-
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This invention relates to improvements in what are known as "try-guns," and
which are employed to enable persons to adjust the bend of the stock in relation to
the barrel and also the cast-on or the cast-off of such stock in relation thereto,
and further to adjust the length and shape of the stock itself until the try-gun
suits them, when a gun can be made the stock of which will have a similar bend
and cast-on or cast-off, and be of the size and form to which these parts have been
adjusted in the " "try-gun."
The objects of the invention are to so improve the construction and arrangement
of the parts of this class of gun that while same can be fired (and not merely
used as a
dummy"), at the same time the adjustment of the different parts will

page_text: the regulation of the form and size of the stock. Further by my improvements I
am able to make the try-gun much lighter than hitherto, so that same will be as
nearly as possible the same weight and balance as the gun it is desired to have
made.
In the accompanying drawings-
Fig. 1 is a side elevation of a drop down gun with my invention applied
thereto.
Fig. 2 a plan view thereof.
Fig. 3 a longitudinal section of the action part of same.
Fig. 4 a sectional plan view of Fig. 3.
Fig. 5 a side elevation of the sear arm, trigger and hammer detached.
Fig. 6 a plan view of the sear arm and trigger.
Fig. 7a plan view of a slightly modified form of the sear arm.
Fig. 8 a longitudinal section of the rear part of the stock, and
Fig. 9 an end view of the heel plate taken from the inner side.
I pivot the stock A to the barrels B just at or as close as possible to the face of
the action, as shown at C, such pivot being vertical so as to permit of the requisite
amount of adjustment for the cast-on or cast-off. By placing the pivot C at this
point I am able to give the cast-on or cast-off just where the sight is taken from,
and which is the most desirable point for the purpose. The action or firing
mechanism of the gun moves with the barrels B, while the triggers D, D', move
with the stock A, so that unless proper provision is made, when the stock is
turned. in relation to the barrels the trigger on one side will no longer engage the
sear arm E. In order to prevent this each sear arm E is jointed in its length, as
shown at e, Figs. 3, 5, 6 and 7, and the engagement of the trigger D therewith is
such that it causes the jointed part E¹ of the sear arm to bend in relation to
the other part, when the stock A is turned, and the proper engagement of the
two parts therefore remains undisturbed.
A suitable method of causing the trigger to bend the pivoted part E¹ of the sear
arm consists in making the latter with a notch e' which fits over the body of the
trigger D, such notch being either vertical as shown in Figs. 3, 5 and 6, or
Horizontal as shown in Fig. 7.
In the case of drop down guns the locking lever F which is mounted on the
under side of the barrels B is engaged by a spring G which can turn round the
pivot C connecting the barrels B and the stock A, so that the relative movements
of the latter do not interfere with such lever and its spring.
The horizontal pivot H. for enabling the bend of the stock in relation to the
barrels to be adjusted, is preferably arranged near the fore end of the stock just at
the rear of the triggers.
Any suitable means may be employed for shifting the stock A. in relation to the
barrels B, both for the cast-on or cast-off and for the bend, and for fixing such
parts in the position to which they have been adjusted.
A suitable way of effecting this with regard to the cast-off and cast-on, consists
in the use of screws I on opposite sides of the vertical pivot C, such screws working
through the sides of the breech J and their inner ends bearing on the head A' of
the stock A, so that by loosening the screw I on one side or other the stock can be
turned on the pivot C, and by then tightening up the other screw I the stock will
be secured in the position to which it has been shifted.
For the adjustinent of the "bend "an arm K carried by the strap L of the action
may extend back beyond the horizontal pivot H and work in a recess in the rear
part of the stock A, the end of such extension engaging a nut M through which
works a screw N carried by the rear part of the stock, so that by turning the screw N
the two parts of the stock will be turned in relation to each other on the pivot H
connecting them.
For adjusting the cheek O of the stock A, such cheek is made separate from the
rest of the stock, the line of division being (as shown in Figs. 1 and 8) in a

page_text: slanting direction to the length, and the two parts being hinged together at o at
the bottom towards the rear of the stock, while the front end of the cheek O has
a projection which enters a corresponding recess in the lower part of the stock A,
and the rear end of which lower part has a projection a which enters a corresponding
recess in the cheek O. A screw P passes through one part and engages a nut
carried by the other part, so that by turning the screw P in one direction or the
other the two parts will by turning on their hinge o be adjusted in relation to
each other.
So as to enable the length of the stock to be adjusted the heel plate R is made
movable, a projection S on its upper end entering a recess in the cheek O of the
stock A, and through such projection S passes a screw T which engages a nut U
in the bottom of such recess, so that by turning the screw T in one direction or
the other the heel plate R will be moved in relation to the cheek O. The lower
part of the heel plate R is preferably made so that its curvature can be adjusted as
desired, and for this purpose such lower part is composed of two, three or more
separate pieces of wood r, the outer surface of which is covered with a single strip
of leather or other suitable material V connecting the whole of such separate pieces,
and which strip of leather is secured to the upper part of the heel plate R. A flat
spring may also be connected to the top piece of the heel plate R and run along
the top of the lower movable pieces of same. Each of the pieces has preferably
a projection W on its front side which enters a recess in the check O, and through
such projections passes a screw X which works through a nut Y carried by the
bottom piece, and the upper end of which screw bears against the projection S
before referred to on the upper end of the heel plate R, so that by turning the
screw in the required direction the separate pieces forming the bottom of the heel
plate will be moved in relation to each other and to the top part of such heel plate,
the flexible connection formed by the leather strip permitting such movement, and.
thereby allowing the curvature of the heel plate to be adjusted.
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Instead of making the lower pieces entirely separate from each other, they
may be left connected together by a thin strip of wood at their upper ends,
providing the requisite degree of flexibility is obtained.
A screw Z may be arranged to work through the cheek O so that when turned
in the proper direction it will cause the two sides of such cheek to bind on the sides
of the projections S and W of the heel plate R, and thus fix same securely when
the parts thereof have been adjusted to the required position.
Having now particularly described and ascertained the nature of the said inven-
tion, and in what manner the same is to be performed, I declare that what I
claim is :-
In a try-gun-
1. Placing the pivot for effecting the cast-on or cast-off of the stock in relation
to the barrels at the point from which the sight is taken in using the gun,
substantially as specified.
2. The combination with the pivot for effecting the cast-on or cast-off of the
stock in relation to the barrels, which pivot is situated at the point from which the
sight is taken in using the gun, of sear arms pivoted in their length and engaging
the triggers in such a way as to permit of the relative movement of the stock and
the barrels without causing such sear arms to become disengaged, either from the
triggers or from the hammers of the gun, substantially as specified.
3. The combination with the horizontal pivot for enabling the bend of the stock
to be adjusted, of an arm carried by the strap of the action and extending beyond
such horizontal pivot, the rear end of such arm engaging a nut through which
works a screw, substantially as specified.
4. A. stock with a cheek made separate therefrom, and the line of division of the
cheek and stock being in a direction slanting to the length, while such cheek and
stock are hinged together at the bottom and towards the rear of the stock, and a
projection ou the cheek entering a recess in the other part of the stock, in

page_text: combination with a screw working through one part and engaging a nut in the
other so as to adjust the cheek and stock in relation to each other, substantially as
specified.
5. The heel plate of a stock, the bottom portion of which heel plate is composed
of separate portions flexibly connected together and also to the top portion of such
heel plate, and through projections from such separate bottom portions works a
screw so as to enable the different parts to be moved in relation to each other, and
the curvature of such beel plate to be thus adjusted, substantially as specified.
Dated this 7th day of December 1892.
ALLISON BROS.,
Agents for the Applicant.