[oh] dulu first kerja (err) ayah kerja apa ni (uh) shipyard because last time [ah] ada apa ni (err) they call apprentice then I go for the what apprentice for three and the half years and then (err) I continue work about (uh) five years then I quit from the shipyard [ah] they call and message I [ah] M mitsubishi heavy industry [ah] then after that I kerja dekat apa ni company (uh) bikin glass [ah] they call it glass glass