Much later, in an interview for this book, Santos would recall, "This was a real big deal for us because now it hit home, it was personal. Kevin was listening to our calls, when we were in the business of trying to listen to his calls. Then he has our intercepts taken down. So it made us really change how we spoke on the phone and the messages we left. And we had to create some new ways to cover our tracks because we also had to protect the integrity of what law enforcement was doing with us, all of their court-ordered stuff."