It was important for them to understand. Zula sighed and looked at each of them in turn. "First of all, Ivanov is planning to kill us no matter what happens. That’s just obvious." She let that hang in the still air of the cellar for a few moments. "Which doesn’t mean that we are going to die. Because Sokolov thinks Ivanov is crazy and he will intervene to prevent Ivanov from killing us. All of that is out of our hands. We’ve been asked to give up these hackers, who are basically just a bunch of harmless kids, so that Ivanov can kill them. And we just simply can’t do that. It’s just wrong. It’s not how people behave. So I lied to the Russians."