It was a very nice interview, done live and conversational. We talked about Addis Ababa and Witnessed , and about how it had been living here in the seventies and how it was now. We talked about my transition from artist to businessman to digital designer. I was self-effacing and calm. I talked about my struggles with interfaces, my concerns about art objects created and channelled through screens, my ideas about endlessly replicable products through which each individual may have unique experiences. I said that I had reservations about digital life replacing analogue connections, but that I wasn’t so impressed by the history of the twentieth century or the first decades of this one that I felt humanity should be held immutable and perfected. If digital devices were going to change the way we thought, that was fine, so long as they made us less monstrous rather than more.