Then I got lucky. I called the company and said I was from a venture capital firm and we were interested in setting up a meeting and I was juggling schedules to find a time when all of our partners would be available sometime in the next couple of months, and was there any time slot I should avoid, any period when Larry wasn't going to be in town? And she said, Yes, he hadn't had any time off in the two years since they started the company but his wife was dragging him away on a golf vacation the first week in August.