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Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

I would say to the gentleman that is my main concern because the gentleman in the well certainly has been the champion. and we admire and respect him for his activities in civil rights and in keeping Government out of peoples business. except when the Government is required to intercede to protect those rights. I say what the gentleman is doing is adding to an already burdensome procedure a list which is not the Governments business as to whether I apply for a job some place or not. You are making another list that the Government will have. That is none of their business whether I applied or I do not apply. But yet my name and address is going to be in every shed. every packing shed and every factory. and every housewife has to keep a list under the already burdensome procedure of the bill. not what the gentleman is doing. but he is adding further burden which I am concerned about. and you are going to have another list. I know the intention that someone have the right to say. "I was discriminated against." But I think that can be protected without a list. Lists in the hands of government belong in other systems of government. not In ours. and that is my main concern.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I move to strike the requisite number of words. Mr. Chairman. first. last night or early this morning I already voiced my complaints and concern about what is in the bill. if you just read what the bill does. it has verified that an Individual is eligible to be employed in the United States by certain procedures. which will be national policy and under penalty of perjury a prospective employer has to attest that the prospective employee is eligible to be employed. And. as the bill says. examine on individuals U.S. passport. social security account number. alien documentation. identification. and telecommunication. whatever that isI guess a credit card from the telephone companydrivers license or similar documents. Now. the gentleman from California has expressed concern that there could be potential discrimination. My concernand I speak only for myselfis not the potential discrimination. My concern is that throughout the Southwest anyone who looks like me has to have identification. drivers license. social security card. that I would have to verify who I am and where I came from. more so than the individual that does not look like me. that looks more the norm in the area. Now. that is concern enough. I am concerned with potential discrimination. but I am more concerned with what it imposes on someone who looks like me in the Southwest. what you have to do to ask for a job. Then the gentleman from California. my distinguished colleague and dear friend . wants to add further insult to this. that there be a list. if you had just applied for a job. whether you were accepted or not. so that then you can come back for complaints on discrimination. But here in the bill it says that the list shall be the document of the Attorney General. it shall be made available to the Servicethat means the Immigration Serviceor the Department of Labor. So here comes the border control: "Hey. Mr. Employer. I want to see your list." Sixty people applied for ten positions. forty were not hired. What business is it of the Government or the Immigration Service or the Labor Department of the 40 that were not hired? Why should they have their name and address? And that is my concern. I think that it is an infringement on the human and civil liberties of an individual in this country that so professes to protect the rights of individuals. It is ironic that in an attempt in legislation to protect the rights of individuals that we have the potential for more harm than the protection that we are affording them.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Anywhere in the Southwest if a potential employer is looking for a protection from perjury. boy. if you look like me in the Southwest. you have got to have papers of every kind and color.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

In the Southwest it would not affect somebody who looks like you that much. but through the South and other areas of the Northeast. where we have migration from some of the Caribbean countries and some of our friends who are darker than me. they would have the same problem. You would have the identical problem.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

The gentleman and I are in for potential trouble if we should ever go out looking for a job in the fields or in the shops or in the factories of the Northeast. the Midwest. through the South and the Southwest
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. my concern is for citizens already here. whose families have been here for hundreds of years. And if there is potential for prejudice or potential for harassment to citizens. pray. I tell the gentleman. what can they do to the aliens. even if he has been granted amnesty? You see. amnesty is not going to clear the potential for harassment. so far as employment. of having to identify himself. Amnesty is not going to do anything but to say. "Hey. for a little while you are going to be legal here." but it will not in any way deter potential discrimination or harassment or need of identification. which is what I am concerned about and what I am complaining about. And amnesty or not. he still will be on another list available to the Immigration Service or the Department of Labor solely because he applied for a job. Again I repeat very sincerely. this is for other types of governments to have lists about what individuals do in their daily lives. not for our system of government. We already have too many lists for potential for harassment.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

For a multiplicity of reasons. One. it provides -another list in the hands of the Federal Government. the Immigration Service. and the Labor Department. My concern for the potential for mischief with lists that are not required. As I stated again. in order to apply for a job. I would have to give my name. address. serial number. et cetera.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

I thank the gentleman for yielding. Mr. Chairman. my concern is that I already object to the procedure in the bill. that is onerous enough. and I repeat again. and I hate to keep using it but I know of no better way to illustrate it. that anyone who looks like me has to have an Identification. telecommunication card. drivers license. social security. passport. birth certificate. whatever. * The enforcement officer is going to be an employer who. under the penalty of perjury. has to certify that I am legally in this country and eligible to work. That is an imposition on the employer above and beyond what I think it should be. So for that reason I object also. But my main reason is. and I feel this very deeply. that the potential for mischief or another list in the hands of a Federal agency. I think. is not necessary. I know there is concern. and I agree with the concern of the distinguished gentleman from California my dear -friend from New York that this list would be used to verify possible discrimination. I am not as concerned with the discrimination as I am with the burden that it places on individuals to have to identify as the criteria in a criminal case. that you have to identify beyond a reasonable doubt or else the fellow goes for perjury. So if you have to identify yourself beyond a reasonable doubt that you are eligible to seek employmen. in this country. you are imposing a burden above and beyond the laws and the Constitution. and possibly of nature itself. that an individual. solely to apply for a job. has to kneel in front of a potential employer and show beyond a reasonable doubt that you are here legally and are entitled to ask for a job. That is not the American way. and it will never be the American way. and this bill may become law but I will never agree to it.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I have the utmost respect and admiration for the distinguished gentleman from California and for my dear friend. the gentleman from New York . But my concern is this: I wonder what the gentleman would have thought about it if 40 years ago in a country in Europe the Government said it was going to have another list that had names. addresses. religion. and color on it? What would the gentleman have said 40 years ago in the country of Germany when the Government was asking for another list with names. religion. and color? Would he have agreed to it at that tim.?
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I agree with the gentleman on the intent. but that isnot the fact. I would like to tell the gentleman that once he received the blessing of becoming a naturalized citizen. I think it is not then incumbent upon the gentleman to have to prove that he is legally here. The burden should be otherwise. That is what the sanction does.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

There were other avenues and other areas. I agree with the gentleman that the sanctions are bad enough. but the gentleman from California is adding to those problems. My main concern again is that we are going to put a list in the hands of a Federal agency. a list that is needlessly used.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I would say to my dear colleague that I have no disagreement in that aspect. but I am again saying that the gentlemans concern about the possibilit discrimination is minimal compare the potential for mischief when make another list available of all t people whom the gentleman an wish to protect. Then they get stop on the subway. they get stopped the metro. because they are Hispa We are putting them on another just because they go out and apply a job.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: JOHN L. BURTON (democrat)
Chamber: H

I would just like to say that Hoffman Hardware Co. in Orange County for years has been one of the most distinguished small businesses in that area. and I would like to commend the gentleman for his association with it and commend him for his remarks.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I would like to state to the gentleman. the chairman of the committee and the chairman of the subcommittee. that the debate on this bill has been one of the most enlightening debates. I think it did this House proud. the way that it has been handled. both by the majority and the minority. There are disagreements of course. That is the nature of our business. But I want to state to the gentleman that the high level of discussion and the high level of debate do the gentleman and his committee proud. On the product which they brought to us. there is disagreement. But the manner in which it was handled by the gentleman from Kentucky and the gentleman from New York and the gentleman from New Jersey. has been exemplary. And I think we have done our country good. that we have done good to the institution. and that we should dedicate ourselves to a final good product somewhere along the line. wherever it be. this year or the next year. But my sincere commendations to the gentleman for what he has done. for the institution. and respecting the rights of individuals that disagree. which after all is the system that all of us are dedicated to protect.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: PHILLIP BURTON (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Speaker. I urge my colleagues to support this legislation. which includes authorization for construction of a breakwater at Fishermans Wharf in San Francisco. This project has been sought for many years by the Fishermans Wharf Merchants Association. led by its most able and effective president. Patrick Flannaganand his predecessors. This breakwater is needed to protect not only San Franciscos fishing fleet. but also the historic ships In the National Maritime Museums portion of the Golden Gate National Recreation Area. This has been desperately needed for years but the urgency of this project was forcefully brought to our attention during a recent storm which damaged both fishing vessels and historic ships. I again urge passage of this bill.e
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: DE IA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Speaker. I ask unanimous consent that all Members may have 5 legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks on the bill. H.R. 7439. passed earlier today.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

Mr. President. I thank the majority leader. Mr. President. I yield 3 minutes or as much time as he wishes to Mr. PROXMIRE.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

Mr. President. if the Senate and House of Representatives pass the conference report on Monday there is no reason why it will take the President until Tuesday to determine whether he is going to veto it. There is no reason why it would take until Wednesday to pass a slimmed down conference report if that becomes a necessity. I would hope if he is going to veto it he would do it. and do it fast. and the House of Representatives can quickly send over whatever has to be sent over and the Senate can finish its action on Monday. the same day. or no later than Tuesday.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

Mr. President. will the distinguished chairman make the request for a time limit and also that there be no amendments to any amendments in disagreement that will not be germane.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: JOHN L. BURTON (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Speaker. I thank the gentleman from Texas for yielding. I would like to commend him for his remarks today. One of the things I have enjoyed throughout my stay in Congress and learned a great deal from was the gentlemans addresses that were usually on the state of the Nation or the state of the world as he saw it. His target of the Federal Reserve Board is right on mark. The work the gentleman did in getting finally the prosecution of the murders of the judge down in Texas will go down in history as one mans fight. In leaving this institution. one of the sad parts will be that I will no longer be able to watch the "GoNEML.E Hour." I was sitting over in my office trying to decide whether I would watch this special order or watch the football game and I decided after
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

I announce that the Senator from California . the Senator from Wash. ington . and the Senator from Massachusetts are necessarily absent. I further announce that if present and voting. the Senator from Washington would vote "yea." I further announce that if present and voting. the Senator from Massachusetts would vote "nay."
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

I announce that the Senator from California . the Senator from Washington . the Senator from Massachusetts Y). and the Senator from Rhode Island
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

Mr. President. I thank my distinguished friend and colleague from Oklahoma for offering this resolution and for joining me as a principal coauthor. This amendment expresses our belief that the Federal Reserve Board should achieve and maintain interest rates low enough to promote economic growth and reduce our current intolerable level of unemployment. without rekindling a new bout of inflation. Language was included in the Housepassed continuing resolution. but was stripped from the resolution by the Senate Appropriations Committee. I would hope that the Senate now would put language in so that there is no question but that both bodies are interested in this approach. It will certainly relieve the tensions and the problems that might otherwise arise in conference. I should mention. at the outset. that with our current level of unemployment and our low plant and equipment usage there is little danger of a new inflationary spiral. Steel companies are at 40percent capacity utilization. Capacity utilization in the automobile industry is at around 50 or 56 percent. though I may be wrong on that figure. Overall capacity utilization in this country is under 70 percent. With such a low level of employment and such a low level of plant and equipment usage there is little danger. in my judgment. for a new inflationary spiral. The more acute danger is that our Nation. and other nations. will sink deeper into a recession that is now the longest in postwar history. I believe this amendment is particularly appropriate at this time. because we lie somewhat suspended in an economic twilight between depression and recovery. The Federal Reserve Board seemed to abandon monetarism a few months ago. after the Senator and I and 40 others in this body. including
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

Mr. President. I compliment the Senator again on his having offered this amendment. I urge the Senate to support it.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

I announce that the Senator from California . the Senator from Washington . and the Senator from Rhode Island are necessarily absent. I further announce that if present and voting. the Senator from Washington and the Senator from Rhode Island would each vote "yea."
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

I announce that the Senator from California . the Senator from Wash. ington . and the Senator from Rhode Island are necessarily absent. I further announce that. if present and voting. the Senator from Rhode Island and the Senator from Washington would vote "yea."
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

I announce that the Senator from California . the Senator from Connecticut . the Senator from Ohio . the Senator from Washington . the Senator from Massachusetts . and the Senator from Rhode Island are necessarily absent. I further announce that. if present and voting. the Senator from Washington would vote "nay".
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

I announce that the Senator from California . the Senator from Connecticut . the Senator from Ohio . the Senator from Washington . the Senator from Massachusetts . and the Senator from Rhode Island
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

Mr. President. reserving the right to object. would the distinguished floor leader include in that request that no amendments be in order to any amendments in disagreement?
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

And that if any motion to reconsider is made. and it will be made. there be no time for debate thereon.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

With the Senators rightq to the floor being protected. may I ask the majority leader if he would propound the request on my bill. the amendment which has been agreed to on all sides. that we take up the bill. immediately offer the amendment. and we have a vote thereonit can be by voicethat we have no more than 3 minutes on the bill and the amendment following the action on the finalizing on the continuing resolution. -
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

Mr. President. with the Senators rights protected. may I say that we on this side of the aisle are ready to vote now on the third reading. we are ready to vote now on the passage of the continuing resolution. The majority leader knows that. We are ready to vote now on the highway gas tax bill. I am not saying we will all support it. I for one may not vote for it. but we are ready to vote on it up or down. This side is ready to vote on both those measures. and we are ready to proceed with the vote on cloture on the Baker substitute at the moment that the distinguished majority leader decides that he wants to make the motion and we will give him enough votes to make the cloture on that one. My little pitiful 3 minutes are not going to prejudice the distinguished Senator from North Carolina one iota in what he seeks to do.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

Mr. President. the distinguished Senator from North Carolina has asked me a question. By disposing of my little bill. which would only take 3 minutes. the Senator is not being deprived of his opportunity to continue to debate the continuing resolution. That is what he has been debating. He would not be deprived of that. And at such time as the majority leader goes to the highway bill. the distinguished Senator from South Caolina would not be deprived of his right to debate on that measure. If cloture is invoked he would have 1 hour. This little bill only takes 3 minutes unless there is a rolleall vote on it and it takes nothing away from the Senator from North Carolina. As a matter of fact. he will get a chance to rest a little bit following the action on my little bill and then he can continue his debate on the continuing resolution. We are ready on our side to vote on the continuing resolution now and ready to vote on the gas tax bill right now. I hope he will not object to my miniscule request. and I do not make many requests. and the Senator from North Carolina may someday have a little bill that he is very interested in that I might be able to help him with.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

Mr. Prestdent. on behalf of myself and my distinguished senior colleague . I send to the desk an amendment and ask that it be stated by the clerk.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

I yield back my time on the amendment and on the bill. The amendment (UP No. 1565) was agreed to.
Date: 1982-12-18
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

Mr. President. I thank the distinguished majority leader. I thank the distinguished Senator from Idaho . and I thank Mr. EAST. who comes from a State whose motto ib: Esse quam videri. I happen to know the motto because I was born there.
Date: 1982-12-19
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

At no time have I indicated that the infrastructure of this country should not be repaired. I simply said that we Democrats did offer an alternative for the payment of that. and that some of us over here are opposed to the gas tax. My colleague may support it. others may support it. and others may not. But I have said that this is not something that is so absolutely imperative that It could not wait until January 3 when the new Congress comes back to be acting upon it.
Date: 1982-12-19
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

I announce that the Senator from California . the Senator from Washington . the Senator from Hawaii . and the Senator from Rhode Island are necessarily absent. I further announce that. if present and voting. the Senator from Washington would vote "yea." I further announce that. if present and voting. the Senator from Rhode Island would vote "nay."
Date: 1982-12-19
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

Mr. President. there are a number of housekeeping items and other measures that could be taken care of by unanimous consent. I assume. during the day. I would hope that we would utilize this time to do that. Otherwise. the majority leader and I will be around at 12:30 or 1:30 in the morning one day while everyone else has gone home.
Date: 1982-12-19
Speaker: ROBERT C. BYRD (democrat)
Chamber: S

I would like to do that. I personally do not think there is anything of major importance that can be brought up this afternoon.