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Date: 1990-07-25
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I take this time to inform the Members that working with the leadership we hope that we might conclude this amendment that is pending. We have several areas where we have some degree of compromise that we hope we might be able to offer tonight not requiring a vote of the Members and then rise and return at the call of the leadership either tomorrow or Friday. so that we would have basically one more vote this evening. With that in mind. Mr. Chairman. I ask unanimous consent that on this amendment we limit debate to 10 minutes for the amendment and 10 minutes against the amendment.
Date: 1990-07-25
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. these en bloc amendments include an amendment by the gentleman from Arkansas . as modified by the gentleman from Arkansas . an amendment by the gentleman from Indiana . and another one by the gentleman from Arkansas . These amendments have been agreed to by all the parties.
Date: 1990-07-25
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. this is the amendment that the gentleman from Texas [Mr. STmENHOLM has explained. Does the gentleman from Texas need more time at this point?
Date: 1990-07-25
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I renew my unanimousconsent request that title VI be deferred and that the remainder of title XI be deferred for further consideration and that at this time we move to title XII.
Date: 1990-07-25
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I wish to keep title VI and the remainder of title XI in abeyance and proceed to title XII.
Date: 1990-07-25
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. would have let us know what you were our interest is that we might conclude doing over there. any agreements that we have up to Mr. GEJDENSON. We appologize this point. It is not our intention to for not getting that information over preclude any other amendments to to your side. We thought it had been title XII. and if we can consider this transmitted to that side. amendment with the understanding Mr. DE LA GARZA. Mr. Chairman. f that we would not cut off any other amendments to title XII. and that we the gentleman would yleld. he includes might have a unanimousconsent re- himself in the apology to the gentlequest to again bring up title XI and man from Illinois. title XII at the next meeting for consid- Mr. MADIGAN. Mr. Chairman. I eration of this legislation. withdraw my reservation of objection.
Date: 1990-07-25
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I am happy to inform the gentleman from Nebraska that from the work done by staff and our perusal of the amendment. we will be happy to accept it on behalf of the Committee on Agriculture.
Date: 1990-07-25
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I continue again my unanimousconsent request that title VI be deferred for further consideration and that titles XI. and XII remain open for amendment. -
Date: 1990-07-27
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Madam Speaker. in order to allow Members to keep their commitments and facilitate consideration of the legislation. hopefully to conclusion. I ask unanimous consent that debate on* the bill entitled the "Food and Agricultural Resources Act of 1990." and all amendments thereto end at 2 p.m.. except that amendments printed in the RECOnn and amendments authorized by paragraph (2) of the rule shall be debatable for 10 minutes.
Date: 1990-07-27
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I would ask unanimous consent that this amendment be allowed 20 minutes for consideration. 10 for and 10 against.
Date: 1990-07-27
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

I thank the gentleman for yielding. Mr. Chairman and my colleagues. I would much have preferred that this issue be discussed in the Committee on Foreign Affairs with appropriate hearings. where there Is a greater degree of expertise. I would like to state to the chairman and members of the Committee on Foreign Affairs that it was not my intention nor my desire that this issue be considered during debate on the farm legislation. There are a lot of things that concern us. and I think we would have to take it in context. whom we hurt. whom the other countries Involved are. There are just a lot of other things that I think merit more than the debate that we are allowing it here on the floor at this point.
Date: 1990-07-27
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. the Chair divided 10 minutes to the opposition and 5 minutes to the proponents. I would like to inform the gentleman that there are several Members opposed on our side. and I wonder if the gentleman could allow some time on this side within the contraints of time.
Date: 1990-07-27
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I yield myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Chairman. again. let me say to my colleagues that you have to take this issue in the whole context of American commerce. American Jobs. and how we do with our exports. Granted. the program is not perfect. We are addressing those issues. and you can bandy around GAO studies all over the place. but it does not have the imprimatur of correctness all the time. But I am not taking issue with GAO. The thing is that we are trying to address areas where the program may not be working as intended. The main thing is. every time you hear balance of trade. we are at a deficit except agriculture. except agriculture. This is one of the programs that has helped in that respect. We go back. and the gentleman from New York and I have already gone through this. It is American jobs we are speaking of. and as in any business. you have to advertise. As a last resort. you come to the Government for assistance. This is what this program is all about. But I want Members to understand this: The only thing bringing money back from abroad Is agriculture. It is not our manufacturing. it is not our high tech. it is not our banks. It is nothing else but agriculture. This is a major factor in bringing that money back from overseas.
Date: 1990-07-27
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I appreciate my distinguished colleague yielding. The Government is the element of last resort. New York City came to us. Chrysler has come to us. every involvement when we have to compete with other governments. It may not be the perfect program. but we will work with the gentleman from New York [Mr. ScaumEx] to make it a better program. I can assure the gentleman that.
Date: 1990-07-27
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I move to strike the last word. Mr. Chairman. I appreciate that we conclude now title XII. Let that be closed. and. under my previous reservation that we now return to title VI. that we might continue accordingly. Mr. Chairman. I would also advise Members that we hope that we can reduce the time of debate. and I will inform my members from the Committee on Agriculture that some of the urban colleagues. who are not well acquainted with the issues. have. in effect. complained to me that they hope that we would have amendments that are clearcut and definable so that they can understand what it is that we are debating. and I would hope that Members who have amendments posed will be able to explain them in a minute or so. if at all possible. to accommodate our urban colleagues who are very cooperative with us in view of the time constraint that we have. I hope that we can still get as close as possible to. if not finishing the legislation. but the leadership has informed us that we must rise by 3. Therefore. I hope that Members who have amendments would be accommodating to the degree possible that would be fair to them. but that they be able to explain amendments and cooperate in reducing time for the amendments. So. at this point. Mr. Chairman. I would hope that we conclude now title XII and. under the reservation previously agreed to. now return to title VI.
Date: 1990-07-27
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I move to strike the last word. Mr. Chairman. previously I stated that concern of Members. and our concern. on the time. and I would ask my distinguished colleague and friend. the gentleman from Massachusetts if he might not agree on a time limitation at this time. I would hope to make it less. but at least a half an hour divided evenly. 15 minutes to the side.
Date: 1990-07-27
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I would like to ask my colleague. the gentleman from Massachusetts if he is to offer an amendment momentarily. If we might. if it is parliamentarily possible. agree under unanimous consent on a time limitation on his amendment. Mr. Chairman. would that be possible?
Date: 1990-07-27
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. will the gentleman yield to me at this point to see if we can arrive at a time limit?
Date: 1990-07-27
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I thank the gentleman and we will proceed and at a point in the not too distant future I hope again we can discuss a time limitation.
Date: 1990-07-27
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I make that unanimous consent request. that all debate on the Armey amendment and all amendments thereto conclude in 10 minutes. the time to be divided 5 minutes to myself and 5 minutes to the gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. OoNrr3.
Date: 1990-07-27
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I yield myself the balance of my time. Mr. Chairman. as I have stated to Members throughout the debate. what we are all about today is Jobs. American agriculture. farmers big and small. It is the only thing bringing money back from abroad. It is the only one that is giving us jobs. from the local farmworker to the tractor drivers to the combines. It is the only thing that we produce from the land. I know that this subject matter has a tendency to attractwe have quoted from Shakespeare. we have gone to the laboratory of the highest economic doctors. My colleagues who oppose this program have their fun. But this is seriouis business. I do not begrudge them their fun. Good gosh. the honey program. they had more toilet seats in the B2s that cost more than the honey program. We have had squandering. yes. but I am not here to tell you the areas of abuse. and there are a lot that the gentlemen could well address. both gentlemen. in the billions of dollars. You know. when a farmer goes over 5 acres in planting his field. they bring him into the ASC office. they bring him into court. When It happens in another area. in defense. they call it cost overrun and it is OK. It is cost overrun. Who got the cost overruns in Massachusetts. in Texas. in California. where they build the massive instruments of death and sell you coffee pots for $500? This is where our friends should be dedicating their efforts. Let me correct this: This $9.7 billion you mentioned that has gone to farmers. cranberry farmers in Massachusetts and all kinds. let me tell you. my dear friendss. the biggest import of honey comes from Red China. from Red China is where we import the largest amount of honey. We are back again. I hope I do not tire you. but it is Jobs. it is the School Lunch Program. When you buy candy. read the contents of what is in the candy bar. when you buy pastries. read the contents. when you buy cereal. read the contents. All of this is the honey industry coming into play. giving you better quality food. Let me add about this thing about the pollination: It is true. it is technically correct. that if they bring all these beautiful produce to the markets on Saturday and Sunday and you get this good price. good quality product in Boston or Dallas or Ft. Worth or Chicago. part of the reason that you got that goodquality food was because of the pollination done by these bees. You cannot cut that. you cannot deny that. You can make fun. you can make fun. but we have to protect American interests. we have to protect American jobs. we have to protect American agriculture. We should not be here pointing the finger at this program. It is wrong. it is wrong. wrong. wrong.
Date: 1990-07-27
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

The gentleman is correct. and it is those little bees that are helping them be on their own. I would not in any way defer from the gentlemans levity. My friends. vote "no."
Date: 1990-07-27
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I wanted to Inform the Members that the leadership has graciously allowed all of this time so that we might consider our legislation. but unfortunately it does not appear that we would be able to successfully conclude It by 3 oclock. which is the time allotted to us. I want. to thank all of the Members for their patience and indulgence and their support of the committee throughout the process. It would be my hope that we would rise. because if we were to consider anything else. a vote might put it beyond the 3 oclock time. and I want to comply with the agreement that we have with the leadership. So again. Mr. Chairman. I thank all the Members for their support and their patience during the debate. and we will revisit next week. sometime at the direction of the leadership. the rest of the bill that is pending.
Date: 1990-07-27
Speaker: ROLAND E. ANDERSON (democrat)
Chamber: S

Administrator. Foreign Agricultural Service. Washington. DC DEAR MR. ANDmso. The Cherry MarketIng Institute representing cherry growers in Michigan. Utah. and Wisconsin. has applied for TEA (MAP) funding in the amount of $750.000 for FY91. As representatives of cherry growers in these states. we wish to express our strongest support for this request and particularly for the $128.000 requested for establishment of a Japanese representative office. The industry is on the verge of negotiating some very significant contracts in Japan and this office should be the catalyst that leads to their consummation. Sincerely. Orrin Hatch. Bob Kasten. Howard C. Nielson. Tom Petri. Guy Vander Jagt. Carl Levin. Herb Kohl. Bob Traxler. Toby Roth. Wayne Owens. Fred Upton. James V. Hansen. Don Riegle.
Date: 1990-07-31
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I thank my distinguished colleague for yielding. and I want to commend him. Certainly a great many people will appreciate his effort and his undying effort in this endeavor. and I would like to join with him in thanking the distinguished chairman of the committee. the subcommittee. and everyone who has worked with him. and hopefully that our colleagues in the House will give approval to this committee. and. again. my commendations to the gentleman. and I join in his effort.
Date: 1990-08-01
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I move to strike the requisite number of words. Mr. Chairman. I take this time to Inform Members that I want to express my appreciation for their patience as we have worked through this legislation up to now. I appreciate the cooperation of the Committee on Rules in giving us this rule. It Is not our ordinary method of operation. but time was running away from us. and the leadership has insisted that this legislation be concluded today. Therefore. we reluctantly took that apH 6 38 CO] proach. but protecting all of the Members that have amendments. Mr. Chairman. I would hope that in the process. utilizing the rule that has been granted. we might be able to conclude all amendments and debate on this legislation around 6 oclock or so this evening in order that Members might have an opportunity to go to their other endeavors. I would hope that Members cooperate with us to the extent possible in reducing time. even though we have a limitation. Mr. Chairman. I again thank all Members. including those who in good faith have offered amendments. Even though we may have policy disagreements or disagreements about the amendments. we know it is done in good faith. Mr. Chairman. we think we have a good measure. The committee has worked long and hard. We had over 30 hearings. We have asked everyone to be heard that wanted to be heard. We have drafted it in unison with majority and minority. and we hope the Members will stay with us. support the committee. and then go on with the business this afternoon and be able to finish at an early hour.
Date: 1990-08-01
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

That is debatable. Mr. Chairman. I say to my friend. the gentleman from Massachusetts . that it will make savings.
Date: 1990-08-01
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I take this time. and would ask the pre-. vious speaker if he would kindly listen. because I do not know where these figures are coming from that it is going to save $1 billion. and dummy corporations. Under the law you have to have an interest in the land. you have to have a farmer. It is misleading to tell the Members here there are dummy corporations. It cannot be. You have to have somebody there farming. and we cannot remove the- human element. Even if I were the Governor of Massachusetts or the Pope. I could not remove the human element. There is larceny and there is intent to defraud out there in housing. in defense. in the FDIC. in the FSLIC. in the savings and loans. Wherever there is a human element there are those who will try and abuse it. It is no different here. But to the charges that we have not assumed our responsibility. I have a quote here from the AP: An Indiana farmer and his son face up to 10 years in prison and $500.000 fines for being charged with fraud in connection with grain payments. That means that the law is working. That means that if there is an intent to defraud. the law is out there. You cannot have dummy corporations. It is not saving all this money. Good gosh. more money got lost at HUD during the lunch hour than all we spend on this legislation. and it is about time that Members brought complaints in a responsibile way. It they have a complaint. if they have an item they want to bring out. back it up with facts and we will listen.
Date: 1990-08-01
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. if my colleague. the gentleman from Massachusetts would listen. it was my understanding that there was time allocated for our distinguished friend. the gentleman from Massachusetts and time allocated for our friend. the gentleman from Louisiana. I would expect that accordingly we would have each one separate and not have the 2 hours running on the two amendments. but that the time would be divided on each of the amendments separate from the other so that we do not have a balloon time.
Date: 1990-08-01
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

I thank my distinguished friend for yielding. I do this just to put in the RECORD that the Secretary of Agriculture does not want any programs. period. he justs wants to turn everybody loose. So this letter befits his philosophy of turning everybody loose and turning it over to the people across the ocean. Mr. Chairman. I thank my distinguished friend for yielding.
Date: 1990-08-01
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I appreciate the concerns of Members and their interests. and all I am trying to do is pass this little farm bill. Mr. Chairman. we keep getting accused of boondoggles. and loopholes and budget. and what we passed out of committee vas baseline. for those of my colleagues interested in the budget process. However. Mr. Chairman. because the CBO had given us an unfair baseline on dairy. for their own reasons the Senate side disregarded the baseline and used what should have been the equitable baseline. We used the Senate baseline. But we are at the baseline because of something that the Committee on Ways and Means did. They docked us and put us about $1 million off the baseline. but we have an en bloc amendment that the gentleman from Illinois and I will offer that. when we finish this bill. we will be at the baseline. That is our intent. Staff may not know about that. my dear friend. but this is the intent.
Date: 1990-08-01
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. we have an en bloc amendment that will put us at the baseline. Mr. Chairman. the $800 million disregards. that is. the differential in the CBO estimate. and it is all going to be for dairy. The dairy is what puts us out ofthe gentlemans staff is distracting me. I would like to speak to the gentleman from Massachusetts . Mr. Chairman. the fact is that we are going to offer an en bloc amendment that will put us at baseline. so I hope we leave that to rest and address the issues.
Date: 1990-08-01
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. first let me say that how Members have voted in the past and the record of each individual Member is not really the issue here. I would accept what every Member says. whether he is liberal or conservative. whether he votes or does not vote That is fine with me. That is the system. and I feel that that should be left to the Members own discretion. how he votes. What we are discussing here is a farm bill that encompasses the whole spectrum of American -society. We are zeroing in on one tiny little spot. Because we have a farm bill that has conservqtion. working to protect the ecosystem. wildlife. We are trying to work to the extent we can to have clean water. Mr. Chairman. let me tell Members what this is all about. Do you know what the individual needs to survive. the physical plant that the body is? Not the soul and intellect. but just the body. What do we need for survival? One needs air. water. and food. That is all. Maybe a little exercise now and then. But we need food. air. and water. Only the good Lord makes air and water. and only farmers of the land and the sea make food. That is what we are talking about. the producers of food and fiber for your clothing. for what you eat today. whether it is coming from the lakes or the ocean. Our fishermen who are farmers of the sea and our farmers of the land. whether they are producing cattle or producing our foodstuffs. That is what we are talking about. Now. the baseline. We have also conformed to the baseline. We have always conformed to the baseline and you can argue we were 73. the 800 million. There was a discrepancy from an honest baseline because of a disagreement that we have with CBO. But they say you take the present law and you continue it. Mr. Chairman. in the case of dairy we were too successful. and we were ratcheting down costs. So they brought the baseline down like this. and we find ourselves with every other bill. every other committee. has a baseline here. We have a baseline down here for dairy because we were too successful in our attempt. But I have stated. and the gentleman from Illinois . our distinguished ranking member. that we will have in the en bloc amendments an amendment to bring us to the baseline. That is our commitment. So there should not be any more argument about baseline. Plus. we have been responsible. In the past 10 years we have cut over $30 billion from the agricultural sector. and it has been painful.
Date: 1990-08-01
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. I move to strike the last word. Mr. Chairman. I yield to my distinguished colleague. the gentleman from Texas .
Date: 1990-08-01
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

Mr. Chairman. at this point I would like to yield to the gentleman from California. the distinguished chairman of the Committee on Public Works and Transportation for a brief colloquy.
Date: 1990-08-01
Speaker: DE LA GARZA (democrat)
Chamber: H

That is correct. For example. provisions in H.R. 3950 addressing wetlands delineations and procedures and mitigation requirements are not intended to affect duties or requirements of EPA and the Corps. I thank the gentleman for his question and I want to state for the record that the purpose of this colloquy is to clarify the colloquy I had with the gentleman on July 25 which included this issue.