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You can literally see Scrappy in the screenshot.
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> **they** deserve every drop of our hate and violence.
Who are **they**?
LePen often attacks immigrants.
> Le Pen's immunity has been lifted before, in 2013, by the EU parliament. She was then prosecuted in 2015 with **"incitement to discrimination over people's religious beliefs", for comparing Muslims praying in public to the Nazi occupation of France during World War Two**. Prosecutors eventually recommended the charges be dropped.
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> , I ask you do you really care about the LGBT community at all and isn't putting the spotlight on every country who oppress LGBT rights an important factor for every leader?
Sure, can you show me where Macron has expressed his support of throwing gays off buildings.
If he called out Saudis would you then say "What about Russia?!"
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> ... This being said, it's a pity to see that political debates always devolve to this. If Le Pen and Macron could have a proper rational discussion, rather than all this polemical posturing, I think Macron would have a huge advantage. It's just not how politics work.
No one is interested in a wonky debate, and both know it.
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> 0% chance that white liberal woman reconsidered any of her positions after that speech
how could she? It's her religion. but a religion like a cult. Read some stories about desperate families trying to deprogram their moron kids from being used as cult members.
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> 23% for LePen and Macron
> 19% for Fillon and Melenchon.
Woah Macron was supposed to lead Le Pen with like 4 points according to the fake globalist polls.
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> 43% of macron voters were only voting against a literal fascist and will abandon him like they did the PS
check out the legislative elections coming up for france
>bernie would have won
bernie has already won. he gets to be a career politician complaining from the sideline while hillary retired.
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> 46℅ arn't sure whom to vote for and a sizable share don't know if they would vote. So, I woud take the polls with a wheelbarrow of salt.
That's pretty bad news. This really helped Trump because with undecided voters any short term event (like the FBI reopening email investigations) can have large effects. Plus the French left seems more concerning with fighting against anyone but Le Pen instead of fighting for anyone but not Le Pen.
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> 53% would vote Jobbik (far right)
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And not like Le Pen, Trump, or even Wilders. Like explicitly anti-Semitic far right. Fuuuuuu...
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> 6.1% for the President's party. That's rough.
The only guy that said he won't publicly criticize Hollande was Macron! Macron is the rightful heir of Hollande's presidency.
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> A key adviser to Marine Le Pen has been found guilty of inciting hatred against Muslims.
> Robert Menard, mayor of Beziers, was fined 2,000 euros for saying there were too many Muslim children in his city's schools.
If I were French this shocking afront to liberty would be enough for me to cast my vote towards LePen.
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> A new breed of reporter is dominant at many news organizations: the kind who think it is their job to convince you to believe whatever they personally believe, the kind who don’t look for original stories, seek out research, or open their minds to opposing views. They are the kind that spin the news according to what they want you to think. They ignore facts that contradict their story line. They get their ideas from other reporters, quasi–news media, PR firms, political operatives, and talking points.
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> A true conservative would recognize that government has no place in the regulation of marriage. I believe in less government regulation over our personal lives and more freedom.
You are describing "Liberalism" there.
Emmanuel Macron, the other candidate, would agree with you. He's liberal on most of his stances, although he also believes in some social policies, which hence mean some government regulations.
Le Pen would not. Le Pen is not a liberal, she's a conservative. She believes in some pretty heavy regulations, including laws about "morals", e.g. banning gay marriage.
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> A vote for Le Pen is a vote for more terror and more dead French people!
Do you know why? Anti-Islamic rhetoric ostracizes Muslims ALREADY in France, and breeds terror. You'll have less people from overseas causing problems, but domestic terrorism will increase.
That's not saying we should stop the migrants however. I'm just saying that people should attempt to accept Muslims, which will lead to cultural assimilation. Cutting off further immigration from the middle east is actually imperative to making Frenchmen out of the immigrants.
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> Abstain now
And run the risk of a Le Pen victory. Let's see how you like her policies while you are building your "platform". You are the person who is going to whine the loudest about a Le Pen victory if it happens with "How could it have happened?" Answer: Because you were to damn of a purist to compromise to prevent something factual worse.
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> After /r/neoliberal
Only visits reddit to thank mr. bernke and up-macron dank centrist memes. ~~Has time for other, more wholesome activities.~~ Spends entire day on discussion thread.
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> All because evangelical pandering men don't believe women should have bodily autonomy.
Republicans despise women's sexual and reproductive agency.
This is yet another reason we must reduce the Republican party to a permanent, ineffectual minority.
Misogynists and other bigots should never, ever be allowed to have any power over other people.
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> All he did was prove that the other person's thinking was wrong?
Not really, he just pointed out that Russia is larger.
I didn't call *him* a racist, technically, I called Le Pen's proposal racist. Which is arguable, but it's definitely designed to appeal to racists.
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> All lives matter
Is a false equivalency argument meant to deflect from the **centuries** of harm done willfully against lives *specifically* because they were black. Not all lives are treated the same.
Black Lives Matter.
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> All of those are things which neither Macron nor Le Pen can solve
Trivialising the importance of this election is no side I am on.
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> Also why would she not be expected to win if she is leading in polls?
There are two rounds of voting, She's leading in the first one because there are many candidates with more than 10% in the polls but is expected to lose by a landslide in the second if she faces Emmanuel Macron.
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> Also, a huge welfare state is not necessarily a sustainable situation under globalization.
I'll sooner vote for Melenchon/Le Pen and burn the EU to the ground than give up the welfare state.
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> Although I do not condone theft, I have no issue with someone shafting an unnecessary rude customer.
well you can't do both in this situation, if you have no issue with op shafting them, then you are condoning theft
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> Am I supposed to just accept this craziness?
More or less yeah
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> Amazing, you can get fined for saying the holocaust was a detail of history. France has bigger problems than the Le Pens it seems.
I can understand that if you don't have a problem with what happened, you'd agree with that.
I'd rather an investment banker as president than someone who will curtail my liberties because I have a funny name and an unusual skin colour.
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> An abundance of carbs and fat and not much else
So, 2/3 of the macronutrients needed for living? not bad.
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> And a presidential election that will decide if France stays in the EU is going on.
I'm not an expert but I'm pretty sure if Le Pen is elected she can't just make France leave the EU...
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> And socialists kept asking Hamon to stop fucking them and step down so he wouldn't split the party but refused.
You're confusing "left-wing voters" with "Socialist Party".
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> And the inclusion of Jaroslaw Kaczynski in the ranks of 'Le Pen's friends who break numerous freedoms' is improper and highly unsuitable."
Once again, PiS is not sorry for their actions but for getting caught & called out... >_>
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> And they told me that if Macron wins, then that means that France voted for the very candidate who represents ***the system that everybody's revolting against***
TIL everybody = [34.2%](http://i.imgur.com/wMdHtD3.jpg)
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> And this is in Europe.
neoliberalism has slowly been removing the worker protections in Europe and eroding the welfare state
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> Any criticism of America and you are unpatriotic.
America, founded by people who overthrew their government. Your parents are either wrong or the founding fathers were unpatriotic assholes.
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> Anyways, maybe some miracle will happen
That would be nice.
If I was a cosmogonic architect I would interject the reality with miracles to uplift and surprise the sentient beings with profound benefaction.
Why not, ya know?
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> Are they openly for authoritarianism?
Yes, yes they are. That is precisely what's going on with Trump, Farage and his ilk, and Le Pen. They absolutely *adore* a strong man who also throws a couple of compliments their way... And they have aspirations to authoritarian rule.
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> Are you proud of the fact that your country will use the power of the state to silence political opponents
I am proud of french for finally looking to stamp out corruption in the upper echelons of their political establishment: Sarkozi, LePen, Fillon.
Trying to paint her as a martyr is pathetic.
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> Are you telling me that the Turks protesting in favour of Erdogan are successfully integrated?
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
If you accept the premise, 2/3d generation immigrants can still retain connections to their parents/grand-parents culture and be "integrated". Then if many other culture's have left/right political divides, it follows these people should be allowed to express that too.
There is a good 10-20% of the European population who want anti-democratic authoritarian "strong leaders" like Erdogan/Putin/Le Pen, etc, etc
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> As I said before. It will be really interesting to see these people who are telling you it will never happen, if it happens.
> Dejavu man.
It will be really interesting to see all those alt-right people react to Le Pen's loss. Oh wait, they will just stop talking about it, the same as with the Dutch elections.
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> BUT if you are in a position of power,
And that right there is the issue people have with Macron's wife.
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> Babies everywhere
said the snowflakes who invade our sub because they can't even with Mr Bernake and our newly annointed king emmanuel Macron.
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> Because Macron is a post-ideological candidate
Being "post ideological" doesn't mean you don't have an ideology, if anything it means you probably subscribe to the dominant ideology of society.
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> Before /r/neoliberal
Spends lots of time on reddit on a variety of subreddits, often getting exasperated and angry with other users.
> After /r/neoliberal
Only visits reddit to thank mr. bernke and up-macron dank centrist memes. Has time for other, more wholesome activities.
Uh, thanks I guess.
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> Biden’s staff was keeping him away from the media because of the candidate’s penchant for gaffes and verbal missteps.
Yeah. Thats the consensus.
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> Blah, blah, non-productive bitching, blah, blah, non-productive bitching, blah, blah, not looking at your arguments on "why", blah, blah, but still bitching becouse simply you disobey and that's all I care, blah, blah, some more bitching.
So, all that you're saying is that you still didn't get it. Even France's gonna leave you, with such poor skills, Macron isn't eternal.
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> Bro conservatives don't support socioeconomic inequality
I'm sorry but I am finding that hard to believe considering Conservative keep voting to cut taxes for the corporate elite and have been controlling economic policies since Regan / Thatcher / 1980s; the result of which has resulted in massive increase in socioeconomic inequality and the decline in quality of life.
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> But if you have a person who literally has a reputation for being anti-Islamic, such as Le Pen
More lies.
She is not Anti-Islamic.
The images did not depict a Muslim Family having dinner. The pictures depict ISIS fighters holding up the severed heads of men who have been decapitated.
These actions were done in the name of Islam, which is why we call them Radical Islamic Terrorists.
Marine Le Pen is Anti-Terrorism, esp. Anti-Radical-Islamic-Terrorism, as we should all be. But moreso, Marine Le Pen is PRO FRANCE and PRO WESTERN CIVILIZATION.
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> But in the long one perhaps it's better for a disaster like Trump to happen to initiate the change.
If the same kind of reasoning is used in the French elections, Marine Le Pen will win, break the EU, and there will be NO fixing that.
It will be a change, however. And it won't impact France the worst.
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> But it doesn't go against your "moral compass" to enlist yourself for some juicy hate trolling against the French Resistance,
Only the Stalinists.
> people who fought Nazis, to defend your neo-Nazi haggard of choice, Le Pen, now does it?
I want Le Pen dead.
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> But it's actually the Fillon voters that are swinging to Le Pen, not the far-left
Yup. Yet the rumors about the left choosing to vote for Le Pen keep intensifying. I suspect these are just Le Pen voters spreading lies: T_D was also *full* of supposed "Bernie supporters" that 'confessed' they were voting Trump because at least he's more anti-establishment than Clinton. Data doesn't support that at all, yet here TD was, full of these Sanders voters that suddenly support an authoritarian nationalist instead of a progressive, social-democrat.
It's such a weird, and pathetic thing to do.
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> But this is how fake news get started
By reporting a verifiable fact?
> this breeds tribalism and hatred
So you are saying verifiable facts, thus reality beeds tribalism and hatred...
> I could start rumors right now about Le Pen's opposition.
Would they be verifiable facts? Probably not, which is REAL fake news.
> If you have interesting to say, you can say it. But this thread right here is bullshit.
What is bullshit? The verifiable facts that are squarely points to bullshit behaviour; or you trying to justifying alt fact-inators bullshit rumours?
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> Cold hard fact
my sides. Please, I can't wait to hear you swallow those words. I cast my vote for Macron gladly.
Sorry those of us who are saying that Lepen is going to lose have actually taken a basic statistics course.
Also, if we're learning from history, the loss of right wing populist leaders in Austria and Netherlands should be a clear sign to you that what happened with Trump will not happen elsewhere. We also ues a sensible electoral system rather than your retarded electoral college.
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> Congratulations to Emmanuel Macron on his big win today as the next President of France. I look very much forward to working with him!
The Donald responds.
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> Considering Macron's rhetoric, I'm guessing he wants the latter increased to some 10-30% figure.
He can want all he want, there's this thing called the Lisbon Treaty which ties EU members to a set of rules, he could try to push for a new treaty for an "ever closer union" but good look getting that passed, it took 2 referendums IN IRELAND for the EU to get the current Lisbon treary, never mind all the other countries and their people.
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> Countering her with economic problems just reinforces what she's talking about.
...and shows how ignorant Mnuchin is. He has no legitimacy to criticize her, when he is part of an administration that blatantly ignores climate science.
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> Current inputs are pointing to a Macron victory in the second round — 52.3 percent to 47.7 for Le Pen
That is Brexit close, so much for the "Le Pen will easily lose the 2nd round vote" mentality.
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> Currently offenders can face up to a year in jail plus a fine of up to 3,750 euros ($4,200).
Presumably the fines are still going to stick around, and Macron doesn't want to decriminalize.
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> DAE Macron is actually left for American politics?
He would be. American have gone too far to the right.
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> DID
I only know that as Direct Inward Dialing, which doesn't seem like a terribly bad result here... What does DID mean in your context?
EDIT: after some Googling, I'm guessing they may mean Dissociative Identity Disorder?
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> Depends what happens with France really.
What do you expect to happen? Either Fillon or Macron will be elected. Macron is most likely, leading the polls for both the first and the second round of the French elections.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_French_presidential_election,_2017
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-election-idUSKBN16Z0H1
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-election-idUSKBN16W048
He is the candidate for and founder of the following party:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En_Marche!
>Ideology:
>Social liberalism
>Pro-Europeanism
>Third Way
>Progressivism
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> Did it not occur to you that when he says "reform" he doesn't mean "more opt-outs and cherry picking" like Cameron did, but "more integration"?
No because he's talking about pleasing the French voters who are not going to be voting for him right? I thought that Le Penns supporters were Frexiteers
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> Did you just make your own laws?
No.
> The offence being considered is "publishing violent images", which under certain circumstances can carry a penalty of three years in prison and a fine of 75,000 euros ($78,930).
She was inciting violence against Muslims. It's not her first offence.
> Le Pen's immunity has been lifted before, in 2013, by the EU parliament. She was then prosecuted in 2015 with "incitement to discrimination over people's religious beliefs", for comparing Muslims praying in public to the Nazi occupation of France during World War Two. Prosecutors eventually recommended the charges be dropped.
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> Did you not notice that both the establishment centrist political parties have failed to get their candidates up for election in a historic turnaround?
Macron is more centre than both the establishment parties though
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> Djibouti
I'd guess that most people voting there are French soldiers.
There is a big French military base there and support for Le Pen is usually higher among military.
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> Do you think nativist parties led by Le Pen, Wilders etc are not racist? As you admit, they will never label themselves as racist but there is a reason why many people think the label is apt -- their policies are often racist
Of course they are racist, but in a different way. I explained it before.
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> Does Macron have something similar that will unite voters to his cause?
Could oppose Trump I guess
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> Does that means we should tolerate Le Pen and her racist agenda?
She isn't racist and you have no evidence to prove so.
> French people brought universal liberalism and humanism into world
Which lead to ghettos.
> to see France revert back to some fascist nationalist dictatorship would be sad.
Nationalism is the only thing there on the FN agenda. You're being hysterical.
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> Does this sub promote neoliberalism as in, the fact that markets are always right and should be deregulated and govt should not interfere at all (Reagan, Bush, Thatcher) or does this sub favour free-market with government intervention to prevent monopolies, high inequality, lack of social justice (e.g. Obama, Macron, Blair etc..)?
The second, the first is market fundamentalism and that is an extreme Libertarian/AnCap thing.
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> Doesn't seem to have helped France.
France is still having an election and every poll shows Le Pen losing. Keep in mind that the French do have a Presidential system. We do not.
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> Dude, if Trump wins against anyone we are looking at a 6-3 conservative SCOTUS until the year 2050 minimum. This is an existential crisis for left wing politics, we will be dead in the water and Trump's lawlessness will be legalized by America. Losing is not an option.
Then our options are clear, we nominate the plurality holder no matter who to avoid inevitable party fracture.
Joe Biden will have my vote no questions asked if he wins this fairly and walks into the convention with plurality or majority. But he won't if it's instead Bernie with the plurality.
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> Edit 3: Le Pen had called for her supporters to vote for Le Pen
I wouldn't have expected that to be honest.
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> Emmanuel Macron
What did you just call mr macroni?
But really, Macron is apparently super charismatic.
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> Emmanuel Macron slammed the leaders of the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary and Poland, for allegedly defying Europe's principles and values by refusing to pull their weight in the bloc's refugee-sharing plan.
All most everyone in the EU is doing this, maybe that means that these arent really Europe's principles and values?
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> Emmanuel ‘Socialist Party for 3 Years’ Macron
Take your lack of nuance and kindly fuck off.
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> Ever notice that prominent neoliberals were mostly from the global poor (Justin Trudeau) or from third world countries (Macron)
Just to be clear... you're actually classifying Canada in with the "global poor" and France as a third world country? Do you have any idea of what actual poverty looks like or what a real third world country is??
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> Every death is covid because they pay them more money.
This story is from Croatia.
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> Every poll conducted since the beginning of polling the race has put her in first place in the first round. That's not 'barely winning'.
> Second-round polls are less reliable, and she's not trending that badly.
I disagree. In the first round, she is only five percent or so ahead of both Fillon and Macron. In the second round, she loses to Fillon by 15-20% and Macron by 25-30% and in neither case is she trending towards closing that gap. It's not remotely close, even when taking into account margin of error.
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> Every society, every culture, every nation is different and to discuss politics without cultural context and as some sort of objective thing is redundant.
We are talking about Le Pen, we are talking about France. What period is she being conservative if the social structures.
>I don't see how "far right racist" (your words) contradicts the term conservative at all.
Depending on the arbitrary time you pick in French society it doesn't, which is why it is just window dressing.
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> Except when it comes to things like expenses - all MEPs have agreed they can have £120,000 in expenses and not have to explain where the money is spent.
Yet it must be spent on EU-related work. The Front National (Le Pen's party in France) is suspected to have used the money allocated to their MEPs for assistants to work on national issues. They currently are under procedures to lift their parliamentary immunity to be prosecuted with those charges.
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> Fillon is not leaning toward Russia, he is against Russian sanction
Ukraine? Crimea?
We impose sanctions against Russian expansionism despite their own economic retaliations *for a reason*...
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> Fillon told the newspaper, arguing instead for an economic partnership and the convening of a security conference once Russia respects the Minsk peace accord for eastern Ukraine.
So does that mean "economic partnership now. And security conference after Minsk II is implemented" or "economic partnership and security conference after Minsk II is implemented".
Because the latter has been Merkels stance from the beginning. The sanctions will end and Russia will be back to the table once Minsk II is implemented.
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> First Russian Bank gave to Le Pen
Lel this really happened?
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> First, yes Hollande has been the least liked president of our current Republic if I'm not mistaken, which considerably damages the socialist party.
If Macron is more of the same, isn't that just kicking the can down the road?
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> For conservatives, Macron is not a desirable option, but he's arguably the better of the two runoff options.
Macron is literally the opposite of conservatism in every regard. Anti-free trade protectionism is classic, Roosevelt/Eisenhower conservatism.
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> For people who refuse 2 jobs offers, not 2 simultaneous jobs.
pardon my French but duh!
> Well, it's already the requirement at Pole Emploi for job seekers, currently.
https://www.recours-radiation.fr/radiation-pour-refus-de-2-offres-demploi-raisonnables.html
Currently the system is quite lax.
His system
https://en-marche.fr/emmanuel-macron/le-programme/emploi-ch%C3%B4mage-securites-professionnelles
If:
* you refuse two **decent** job offers
* your job seeking intensity isn't deemed sufficient.
WTF is a "decent" job offer? He offers no definition for that There's a definition for reasonable but decent is something macron came up with. And job seeking intensity? WTF is that?
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> For the second time in 24 hours, French President Emmanuel Macron on Wednesday held a phone conversation with Qatari Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani to discuss efforts to solve the crisis in the Gulf. Macron expressed France's readiness to act as a mediator and stressed the importance of dialogue in order to preserve stability in the region. The French president also spoke to Saudi King Salman and Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and "invited all parties to pursue dialogue".
Why is Macron so perfect <3
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> Former Intelligence Community attorney Susan Hennessey said the intel leaks were a self-inflicted wound caused by the administration’s own mendacity, while Harvard law professor Laurence Tribe lambasted the response as “stupefying stupid.”
It’s a betrayal of the highest order to all military members and their families. They’re risking their lives for us, and our Coward-In-Chief cares so little, he can’t even bother to read his daily intelligence briefing. He is no longer fit to serve!!! 🤬
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> France has suffered way too many terrorist attacks to label Le Pen supporters as "racist" or "extreme."
Nope, if you are a racist and you deserve no respect or sympathy.
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> France has suffered way too many terrorist attacks to label Le Pen supporters as "racist" or "extreme."
Those two have nothing to do with each other. There could have been a million terrorist attacks in France, and saying racist stuff would still be racist. Voting for an authoritarian flirting with fascist, backed by Putin is not a reasonable reaction to being pissed off. It's like saying *Paris has way too much traffic to label car bombers "violent" or "extreme."*
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> France is lead by a useless tool
Elected by a useless electorate!
#Marine Le Pen 2017
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> France is second only to Greece in its dislike of the European Union, surpassing even Britain. Should Le Pen win, it could sound the death knell of the EU.
I really want source on this. I'm French and this is far from what I can see, read, or hear everyday.
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> Freeom of speech
Not a single European nation has Free Speech.
Le Pen's case, and the pervasive hate speech or other legislation limiting free expression throughout Europe, demonstrate as much.
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> French politician who can lead a rebirth of the EU
I still don't know too much, but this sounds a bit like Macron
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> French women seem kinda excited by Macron... is that what you mean with your demography thingy ?
Not only them. Can't understand why French gays don't vote en masse for him. Maybe he should work more on his abs /s
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> Hamon is acting as a bit of a spoiler candidate for Melenchon and Melenchons recent rise is mirrored quite well by the decline of support for Hamon.
Maybe but somehow everyone is ignoring undecided voters. Almost all polls posted here are pretty bad because they should always show undecided voters as it's one of the most important factors. E.g. a 5% lead is pretty good is undecideds are <10% but if you have 25% undecided than 5% isn't much.
Maybe Hamon didn't lose that many voters but simply didn't gain any undecided ones.
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> Has OP been reading up on parenting
Do we know DIL has been?
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> Has any evidence linking Russia to the Macron leaks surfaced so far?
https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/05/evidence-suggests-russia-behind-hack-of-french-presidential-candidate/
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> He **basically** said 'all women are used up wh\*res living paycheck to paycheck' and made some other really ugly, prejudiced, over-generalized comments.
This is really galvanizing statement that is going to get a specific response based in emotion because this is a disgusting thing to say. That said, what did he **actually** say.
There is a big difference between *what* someone says and *how* you *interpret* it. I would recommend giving people the information as objectively as possible, to get the best advice.
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> He also warned François Fillon, the candidate for the right-wing Républicains party, that “brutalising society must be avoided.”
> “Democracy, freedom, social rights, Europe and even peace, all of that becomes vulnerable, reversible,” added Hollande.
so the title is about the right wing candidate, not you know, muslim extremism which was my first assumption and the reason I read the article.
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> He is ALREADY FUCKING BEING NORMALIZED.
He's been normalized. TBH, he was normalized before he even ran for president, and before he said anything about Obama's birth certificate.
It's just how Americans are. And to a lesser extent, the rest of the anglo world.
If Le Pen loses, it'll further cement the Anglo-Europe divide, especially since immigration is *actually* a problem in France.
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> He might just actually believe it's the right thing to do.
He does. And it might be the correct path. But if Macron wants to convince me that weakening workers right is good, he will have to show me that he is also willing to go after the excess of the financiary system and do something about fiscal and environmental dumping.
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> He seems really upset and sad. Not angry thankfully.
Stop being so concerned with his feelings and more with yours. What he did was messed up and illegal.
And understand that you know what he did with this video. You don't know where he's posted any others.
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Everyday Morality
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