Perhaps they have overcompensated in that instance. Maybe they should have struck a balance somewhere in the middle. [Assembly Members: 'Ah.']

Efallai eu bod wedi gorymdrechu i wneud iawn yn yr achos hwn. Efallai y dylent fod wedi sicrhau cydbwysedd rywle yn y canol. [Aelodau'r Cynulliad: 'Ah.']

Well, there are two issues: firstly, it's trickier dealing with travel card negotiations at railway stations because there's more than one operator. In terms of the metro, it's essential that there is an integrated Oyster-style travel card available, although even in London now, of course, it's possible to travel simply by using a contactless debit card. So, actually, Oyster cards are now even less essential than once they were. For some people, of course, they're important - for those who don't have access to contactless cards, yes, they need them to travel - but it is absolutely crucial that the network of the south-east Wales metro has one card that covers all journeys within the metro area. Otherwise, of course, it's not an integrated system.

Wel, ceir dwy broblem: yn gyntaf, mae'n anoddach ymdrin â thrafodaethau cerdyn teithio mewn gorsafoedd rheilffordd gan fod mwy nag un gweithredwr. O ran y metro, mae'n hanfodol bod cerdyn teithio integredig tebyg i Oyster ar gael, er hyd yn oed yn Llundain nawr, wrth gwrs, mae'n bosibl teithio trwy ddefnyddio cerdyn debyd digyswllt. Felly, mewn gwirionedd, mae cardiau Oyster hyd yn oed yn llai hanfodol nawr nag yr oeddent ar un adeg. I rai pobl, wrth gwrs, maen nhw'n bwysig - i'r rhai nad oes ganddynt fynediad at gardiau digyswllt, ydynt, maen nhw eu hangen i deithio - ond mae'n gwbl hanfodol bod gan rwydwaith metro y de-ddwyrain un cerdyn ar gyfer yr holl deithiau yn ardal y metro. Fel arall, wrth gwrs, nid yw'n system integredig.

My colleagues might want to come in on this, but, in our discussions with the Welsh Government, the Welsh Government has been quite clear that it is through the Welsh Government and the RSPs that engagement with businesses happens in the first instance, and you can understand that. RSPs are the bodies that should be engaging, but I do think that the point you're making - businesses don't really think in the first instance about Welsh language skills and how useful they can be. People say -

Efallai y bydd cyfeillion eisiau dod mewn ar hyn, ond, yn ein trafodaethau ni gyda Llywodraeth Cymru, mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi bod yn eithaf glir mai trwy Lywodraeth Cymru a'r RSPs mai'r engagement gyda busnesau yn digwydd yn y man cyntaf. Dŷch chi'n gallu deall hwnna - RSPs yw'r cyrff y dylai fod yn engage -io. Ond dwi yn meddwl hefyd, Bethan, y pwynt wyt ti'n ei wneud - dyw'r busnesau ddim wir yn meddwl yn y lle cyntaf am sgiliau Cymraeg a pha mor ddefnyddiol maen nhw'n gallu bod. Mae pobl yn dweud -

You know the rules better than I do. Just with regard to committees, we've got a Children, Young People and Education Committee tomorrow where the education Minister is giving evidence, which I find very useful. What are the longer terms plans for committees? I don't think you mentioned committees in your statement.

Rydych yn gwybod y rheolau'n well na fi. O ran y pwyllgorau, mae gennym Bwyllgor Plant, Pobl Ifanc ac Addysg yfory lle mae'r Gweinidog addysg yn rhoi tystiolaeth, ac rwy'n ystyried hynny'n ddefnyddiol iawn. Beth yw'r cynlluniau mwy hirdymor ar gyfer pwyllgorau? Nid wyf yn credu eich bod wedi sôn am bwyllgorau yn eich datganiad.

I hope that we are seeing joint working. The public services boards have now completed their planning period and have programmes that they're now seeking to deliver. Clearly, each programme will have its own objectives, and we - and, I hope, Members across the whole of this Chamber will be holding their own public services boards to account for delivering on those programmes and those objectives.

Rwy'n gobeithio ein bod yn gweld cydweithio'n digwydd. Mae'r byrddau gwasanaethau cyhoeddus wedi cwblhau eu cyfnod cynllunio ac mae ganddynt raglenni y maent bellach am eu darparu. Yn amlwg, bydd gan bob rhaglen ei hamcanion ei hun, ac fe fyddwn ni - ac Aelodau ar draws y Siambr hon, rwy'n gobeithio - yn dwyn ein byrddau gwasanaethau cyhoeddus ein hunain i gyfrif mewn perthynas â chyflawni'r rhaglenni hynny a'r amcanion hynny.