Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:ABRANDISS

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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called ABRANDISS. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name ABRANDISS~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
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Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:29, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Alpha~cuwiki

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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Alpha. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Alpha~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:29, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)

This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk)
 04:38, апрїлїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Alexnevzorov~cuwiki

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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Alexnevzorov. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Alexnevzorov~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
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Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:29, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Andrusyak~cuwiki

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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Andrusyak. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Andrusyak~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
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Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:29, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Bhupendrakumar1~cuwiki

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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Bhupendrakumar1. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Bhupendrakumar1~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
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 22:29, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Anykey~cuwiki

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Anykey. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Anykey~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:29, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Blake~cuwiki

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Blake. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Blake~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:29, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Buffybot~cuwiki

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Buffybot. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Buffybot~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:29, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Candito~cuwiki

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Candito. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Candito~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:29, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Capik 9112~cuwiki

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Capik 9112. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Capik 9112~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:29, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Danvintius Bookix

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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Danvintius Bookix. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Danvintius Bookix~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:29, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Courtney~cuwiki

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Courtney. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Courtney~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:29, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Erny~cuwiki

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Erny. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Erny~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:29, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Dog~cuwiki

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Dog. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Dog~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:29, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Eulenspiegel~cuwiki

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Eulenspiegel. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Eulenspiegel~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:30, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Fars902~cuwiki

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Fars902. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Fars902~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:30, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Glossologist (usurped)~cuwiki

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Glossologist (usurped). To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Glossologist (usurped)~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:30, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Gabix

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Gabix. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Gabix~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:30, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Gui84~cuwiki

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Gui84. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Gui84~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:30, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)

This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk)
 04:38, апрїлїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Hola~cuwiki

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Hola. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Hola~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:30, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Hoo MergeAccount Test. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Hoo MergeAccount Test~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:30, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)

https://cu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Hoo MergeAccount Test~cuwiki


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Incubator import~cuwiki

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Incubator import. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Incubator import~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:30, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Infobgv~cuwiki

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Infobgv. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Infobgv~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:30, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Jaboja~cuwiki

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Jaboja. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Jaboja~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:30, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)

This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk)
 04:39, апрїлїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Jaro~cuwiki

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Jaro. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Jaro~cuwiki that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.
Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours,Keegan PeterzellCommunity Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation
 22:30, мартїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Jeneme~cuwiki

Hello,
The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.
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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Kaless~cuwiki

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Jurpel~cuwiki

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Konstan~cuwiki

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Kontos~cuwiki

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Kruiz2000~cuwiki

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Llull~cuwiki

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Lyksasha~cuwiki

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:MediaWiki default

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Nikolo~cuwiki

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Orri~cuwiki

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Otac makarije~cuwiki

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Prince Kassad~cuwiki

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Redirect fixer

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Shanawaz~cuwiki

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This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk)
 04:39, апрїлїꙗ 17 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Tengu~cuwiki

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Uno~cuwiki

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Will~cuwiki

Hello,
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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Xgmx~cuwiki

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Zbihniew~cuwiki

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Коренюк~cuwiki

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Марбол~cuwiki

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Огнеслав~cuwiki

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MediaWiki бєсѣда:Sitenotice

Hello, good news! Thanks to FreedomFighterSparrow and Brion, unregistered users can now hide the sitenotice again. Previously, they were forced to see it continuously.
In all cases, please use the sitenotice with care, and keep in mind that occasional visitors see sitenotices on all their visits, if they visit less than once a month or they don't click "dismiss" and save a cookie. Nemo 15:43, мартїꙗ 24 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Бєсѣда:Аспароухъ

** Паисий, ссьiлаясь на Мавро Орбини, звал его "Испор цар"; Мавро Орбини (Маврубиро), списал "Царство славян" (болгар), и сам бьiл хорват, принял латинское имя и вера (католицисм).
И, так - Паисий читал "I SPQR Rex", что можеть считат ся, как "офицер или командер первого (I) римского легионам которой стал цар (болгар).
Першого Риского легиона ш етого и ш превним столетий разполагалсч ... ш Мизий, по Дунае... И, все ясно.
Справки:
* http://chitanka.info/text/3746/4#textstart - Паисий;
* http://www.protobulgarians.com/Kniga%20za%20etnonima/5-Prarodina-novi%20danni.htm
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legio_I_Italica - Первьi Италийски легион...
* https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omurtag#/media/File:Bulgarian_king_Omurtag_sends_delegation_to_Byzantine_emperor_Michael_II_from_the_Chronicle_of_John_Skylitzes.jpg - Омуртаг оказьiвается .. "Василеос болгар" - Цар (Император) Болгарский.. Тоже летопись Манассия.
*
Еще:
Крума, тоже звали "княза", вот и здесь в етот "византийской" летописи (Манассия):
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/52-manasses-chronicle.jpg
Все здорово, только надо будь искреннее!

Кан, Хан, Кхан, Канас или Князь?


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Great Brightstar

Please note that proper Unicode titlo character for Cyrillic is U+0483 and it's already used in  (which should be used only with "subst:"). For numerals every letter should be marked with titlo, but for abbreviations (as Х҃Р) one titlo in the middle of the word is enough. Thank you. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 10:45, аѷгоуста 16 числа, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your notice, I have rewrited the template, this template can provide alternate style of Titlo. The original code was based on new characters for Titlo, they can used to placed a titlo over two letters, but I haven't consider the compatibility, so I considered the way of generating titlos, and impelemented it. You can generating both ХР and Х for abbreviations. I suggest you to require some open-source typographic communities to provide support for these marks, such as Dejavu font and GNU FreeFont.--Great Brightstar (бєсѣда) 15:04, аѷгоуста 16 числа, 2015 (UTC)

: Well, I found this page there is the newest font package providing support for half titlos, so you can feel free to use them. :-) --Great Brightstar (бєсѣда) 03:13, аѷгоуста 30 числа, 2015 (UTC)

First, about . Old Church Slavonic language has complicated morphology, so slightly adjusted copypaste doesn't work with it. Removing of palatalization diacritics is not okay. They must be always presented in articles and templates' text (additional redirects without diacritics are okay though). Second, about . While it's technically valid, there is no actual point in it, as the whole wiki is supposed to be in "oldstyle". ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 11:38, апрїлїꙗ 18 числа, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your notice, that's my fault, I have found a language template uses redirect page without palatalization diacritics and I follow it, but I don't know I made a wrong text. I create some redirect page without palatalization diacritics is intended to make convenience for search, I think many pages should have a redirect page without diacritics to help readers. Second, I made the template  because one day I want to add new suitable fonts come from http://ponomar.net into  but failed, so I decided to create a new one as a branch. --Great Brightstar (бєсѣда) 05:38, апрїлїꙗ 24 числа, 2016 (UTC)

: Now I merged  into . Additionaly, if you want more character supports, you can contect Aleksandr Andreev, here is his repositories you can send issue to him. --Great Brightstar (бєсѣда) 05:49, апрїлїꙗ 24 числа, 2016 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:בײַ מיר ביסטו שיין

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: בײַ מיר ביסטו שיין (бєсѣда) 22:04, сєптємврїꙗ 23 числа, 2015 (UTC)

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Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:לערי ריינהארט

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: לערי ריינהארט (бєсѣда) 18:15, аѷгоуста 26 числа, 2015 (UTC)

לערי ריינהארט (бєсѣда) 15:29, сєптємврїꙗ 9 числа, 2015 (UTC)

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: I18n (бєсѣда) 18:27, сєптємврїꙗ 1 числа, 2015 (UTC)

I18n (бєсѣда) 08:07, сєптємврїꙗ 13 числа, 2015 (UTC)


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: Gangleri (бєсѣда) 21:58, сєптємврїꙗ 23 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Бєсѣда:Ищислитєл҄ь

Надо определиться со словом в церковнославянском для обозначения компьютера: предлагаю ѵпѡлѡгѷстъ, жду Ваших предложений. Gregoru (бєсѣда) 08:21, октѡврїꙗ 23 числа, 2015 (UTC)

Нынешний вариант достаточно адекватен. Никакой необходимости в очередном грецизме нет. Не нужно чинить то, что не сломано. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 12:13, октѡврїꙗ 23 числа, 2015 (UTC)

: Может он и адекватен, но происхождение его неясно, пришлите источник, в которм сказано что существует такое слово с таким значением, в противном случае, было бы разумно решить этот вопрос голосованием участников данного раздела Википедии. Gregoru (бєсѣда) 12:42, октѡврїꙗ 23 числа, 2015 (UTC)

:: А что, у вас уже появился некий источник, в котором на старославянском языке вообще как-то называют "компьютер", любым словом? Нет, таких источников не существует. В данном разделе Википедии на данный момент не существует единого правила для "новых" слов (его как раз и нужно обсудить, а не эту статью по отдельности). И уж точно нет ни малейшего смысла устраивать голосования в разделе с полутора активными участниками. Если хотите консенсус, то существование статьи с 2006 года и количество редактировавших её с тех пор участников (не считая ботов, разумеется) оставляет вас в меньшинстве. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 14:27, октѡврїꙗ 23 числа, 2015 (UTC)

::: Вы хотя бы объясните почему именно данное слово используется. Ведь если оно образованно от *съмѣта, а далее от *mětiti, то оно должно обозначать совершено некое другое, нежели компьютер. Сметатель в принципе негоден для обозначения компьютера. Я предлагаю образовать его уж тогда от праславянской формы, от которой произошли русское "читать" и "исчислять". Но использовать слово с исковерканным значением есть извращение. Жду Ваших предложений. Gregoru (бєсѣда) 10:48, октѡврїꙗ 24 числа, 2015 (UTC)

:::: Участник, который начал эту статью, уже неактивен, так что вряд ли кто-то может объяснить, почему выбрано именно оно. Ваш аргумент насчёт кальки с древнерусского действительно серьёзный: они могут быть допустимы для описания неких русских реалий, но для общих вещей они не подходят. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 16:30, октѡврїꙗ 24 числа, 2015 (UTC)

Оставить, как есть. Использование славянских корней для словообразования всегда лучше, чем цельнотянутые греческие страшилища. В синонимы (не вместо) можно пихнуть «Илектроньнъ ищислитєл҄ьнъ аѵтоматъ». --Ѳєрапѡнтъ Соꙋсовъ (бєсѣда) 14:47, октѡврїꙗ 23 числа, 2015 (UTC)

: Сметатель образован от *съмѣта, а далее от *mětiti, как Вы знаете  смета имеет значение "пересчёт чего-либо" только в русском и древнерусском(?), и я уверен что наши сородичи из южных и западных стран это слово не поймут. Сметатель явно есть орусская калька. Gregoru (бєсѣда) 11:05, октѡврїꙗ 24 числа, 2015 (UTC)

:: Да, если это калькота с (древне)русского, то не нужна. Тогда предлагаю «Ищислитєл҄ь», ибо сочетается с названием категории и общим смыслом. --Ѳєрапѡнтъ Соꙋсовъ (бєсѣда) 13:25, октѡврїꙗ 24 числа, 2015 (UTC)

::: Вот это другое дело, так и надо, в ближайшее время я посмотрю какие названия подходят и предложу их к утверждению.  Gregoru (бєсѣда) 16:12, октѡврїꙗ 24 числа, 2015 (UTC)
Съчєтатєл҄ь, чєтатєл҄ь, съчьтатєл҄ь, чьтатєл҄ь, съчитатєл҄ь, читатєл҄ь. Какой выбираем? Или предлагайте свои. Gregoru (бєсѣда) 12:23, октѡврїꙗ 25 числа, 2015 (UTC)
===Предварительный итог===
На правах администратора подведу предварительный итог. Склоняюсь к варианту "ищислитєл҄ь", так как в пользу него говорит уже сложившееся использование термина в названии категории и неплохая передача латинского "computo". Вариант "съчєтатєл҄ь" — тоже хорош, но ещё может пригодиться нам для "калькулятора" или "счётчика"(хотя я в целом скептически отношусь к описанию техники и технологии в этом разделе при наличии менее спорных с точки зрения лексики тем). Окончательный итог будет подведён в воскресенье, если кто-то ещё захочет высказаться. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 21:39, октѡврїꙗ 27 числа, 2015 (UTC)

"ищислитєл҄ь" не может быть правильным, так как "щ" передавала звук "шт", позже ещё и "шч" и в принципе не может использоваться в данных словах.

P.S. Слово произошло от латинского "computare, computo(?)", com(с, вместе)+puto(обдумывать, полагать), можно составить что-то, вытекающие из этого значения.

P.P.S. Для "калькулятора" можно использовать те же слова, только с приставкой: "подсъчєтатєл҄ь".

P.P.P.S. Прошу не забывать, что не стоит выбирать варинт, паче подходящий для русского слуха, а выбирать наиболее соответсвующий праславянской форме: *čьstь, к примеру, перетекло в "чьсть", а далее в "чєсть". Праславянской формы "читать", я, к сожалению, не нашёл, но она явно родствена *čьstь. Так что вариантов множество. Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 16:52, октѡврїꙗ 29 числа, 2015 (UTC)

: СЧ перед гласными переднего ряда переходит в Щ ("бєщисмєньнъ" [Supr. 442,29], "пищати" вместо "писчати" и т.д.). При чём тут некий "русский слух", я не знаю. Чем вам не нравится форма, образованная от "число", которая по всем словарям подразумевает именно арифметические и количественные коннотации, что вы настаиваете на родственной *čьstь, у которой кроме "счёта" ещё уйма значений от "чтения" до "почитания", я не понимаю. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 04:20, октѡврїꙗ 30 числа, 2015 (UTC)

:: Меня смущает праславянская форма *čit-slo, возможно Вы сможете объяснить что это за за *slo(*slovo?).  В любом случае все эти слова происходят от праславянской формы с *čit, разницы особой нет, только формы разные. Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 13:43, октѡврїꙗ 31 числа, 2015 (UTC)

::: Зачем мне объяснять праславянскую форму, если слово зафиксировано в старославянских памятниках и отражено в словарях? Мы же тут не пишем работу по этимологии праславянского. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 13:51, ноємврїꙗ 1 числа, 2015 (UTC)

:::: Я просто объяснил почему меня это насторожило, так-то Вы есте администратор и Вам решать, просто надо быть в этом деле осторожным, каждая ошибка может стать причиной коверкания языка, не то чтобы у нас тут образчик, на который все ровняются, но я бы всё равно всё делал идеально, в связи с и так ухудшающемся положением языка. Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 06:30, ноємврїꙗ 2 числа, 2015 (UTC)

Слово для компьютера

Предварительный итог


Бєсѣда:Кѷрїлловица

Тоже самое, что я сказал о «климентовице», относится и к этой статье. У вас же всё вверх ногами перевёрнуто, товарищи. Единственный случай у Упиря Лихого — не самый лучший АИ.--Любослов Езыкин (бєсѣда) 18:00, октѡврїꙗ 23 числа, 2015 (UTC)
For non-Russian speakers: the name of the article is misleading, it's a pure original research. This name did not exist in Old Church Slavonic.--Любослов Езыкин (бєсѣда) 18:00, октѡврїꙗ 23 числа, 2015 (UTC)

Тем не менее, других АИ нет. Зато в англовики есть источник на то, что термин "глаголица" придумали в Хорватии в XIV веке, так что к нам он не относится. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 18:55, октѡврїꙗ 23 числа, 2015 (UTC)

Название статьи - The name of the article

* Misal 1483 - hrvatski prvotisak
* Vrbnički statut 1380/1527
* Istarski razvod 1325/1546
The device is not ready. --Methodios (бєсѣда) 07:18, їаноуарїꙗ 3 числа, 2020 (UTC)


Помощи бєсѣда:Чисмєна

Почему для записи девятисот используется "ци", а не ранее использовавшийся юс? Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 10:21, дєкємврїꙗ 4 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Γρηγόριος

После шипящих и "Ц" пишется "Є", а не "О", не надо везде это расставлять. В грецизмах мы сохраняем греческое правописание за исключением дифтонгов и окончаний. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 11:29, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)
Также не нужно массово расставлять латинский символ í вместо корректного кириллического і́. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 16:58, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)

Во всех старославянских источниках "í" пишется. Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 17:03, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)

: Во времена старославянских источников Юникода и электронных кодировок не существовало. В кодировке UTF-8 латинские и кириллические символы разделены. Подобное смешение кодов технически безграмотно. Мы здесь пишем только кириллическими символами. А внешний вид текста вообще определяется шрифтом, установленным лично у вас на компьютере. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 17:08, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)

:: Я сейчас отыщу их для вас, а Вы, будьте добры, вернуть предыдущие версии тех страниц, а то убирать всё заново сложно, а так всего 3 изменить надо будет. Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 17:13, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)

Я вам уже, кажется писа об этом. Когда вы пользуетесь выдержками из Фасмера на Викисловаре, будьте предельно внимательны с Ѧ и Ѩ. Они там часто перепутаны. Правильно будет именно "Кънѧꙃь". ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 20:03, дєкємврїꙗ 7 числа, 2015 (UTC)

Ладно. Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 04:04, дєкємврїꙗ 8 числа, 2015 (UTC)

Во-первых, буква "Ꙋ" в Википедии не используется вообще ни в каком виде, как более поздний вариант написания "оу", которого во времена старославянского ещё не придумали. Во-вторых, почему "Ѫгри"? Потому в источниках есть и Ѫгри, и Оугри, но праславянская этимология тут *ǫg(ъ)rinъ. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 01:04, їаноуарїꙗ 24 числа, 2016 (UTC)

К переходит в Ц перед Ѣ и И (вторая палатализация) или в положении после гласных Ь, И, Ѧ (и сочетания ЬР) и перед гласными А, О (третья). ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 15:11, їаноуарїꙗ 25 числа, 2016 (UTC)

Чередование согласных

Поскольку вы продолжаете демонстрировать поведение, при котором вы редактируете термины в статьях до завершения дискуссии о них (обход консенсуса), я вынужден вынести вам предупреждение. При следующих подобных случаях последуют блокировки. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 15:32, їаноуарїꙗ 25 числа, 2016 (UTC)

Один раз всего отредактировал, да и потому что Вы выпали из консенсуса, вот я и подумал, что пора. Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 15:36, їаноуарїꙗ 25 числа, 2016 (UTC)

Предупреждение

Вы вчера писали где-то, что во время экспериментирования с web-шрифтами у вас наблюдалось долгое время открытия (точнее, отображения) страницы. Это поведение вашего браузера. Он ждет, пока закачается шрифт. Другие браузеры делают так называемый FOUT -- мигание страницы, когда отображение переключается с нестилизованного шрифта на заказанный и скачанный браузером web-шрифт. И то поведение, и то плохо, но этого при использовании web-шрифтов не избежать. Возможно во вчерашнем эксперименте сильно на это повлияло то, что использованный мной для раздачи шрифтов сервер Lab Tools, вообще-то, не совсем предназначен для этого. Возможно, гораздо лучших результатов по времени скачивания можно получить, если разместить один из подходящих старославянских шрифтов в специализированный репозиторий  webfonts Викимедиа. Как сделано для того же Fraktur, разных азиатских и ближневосточных шрифтов. Там инфраструктура заточена именно под раздачу web-шрифтов. Ну, и из репозитория Google если брать (поместить туда, если там нет подходящего; я не нашел), то тоже должно быть гораздо лучше со временем скачивания шрифта. (Это если вообще такой подход использовать с web-шрифтами; я в этой дискуссии это опускаю) Hinote (бєсѣда) 17:50, їаноуарїꙗ 27 числа, 2016 (UTC)

Скорее всего это связано с тем что у меня мобильный браузер "Safari". Или скорость Интернет-соединения надо увеличить, чтобы быстрее прогружалось? Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 17:59, їаноуарїꙗ 27 числа, 2016 (UTC)

Местоимение "сь" склоняется по мягкому местоименному склонению. Праславянский тут, в общем-то, ни при чём. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 15:33, мартїꙗ 18 числа, 2016 (UTC)

Да, склоняется по мягкому типу, но само оно твёрдое, во всех памятниках это отражено. Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 15:38, мартїꙗ 18 числа, 2016 (UTC)

: В памятниках отражено неразличение букв Є и Ѥ. Мы же всегда различаем Є и Ѥ. В памятниках и "єго" вместо "ѥго" повально пишут. И что с того? Вот я специально Изотова посмотрел сейчас, он никаких исключений по склонению местоимений не оговаривает. Не надо смешивать сущности. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 15:43, мартїꙗ 18 числа, 2016 (UTC)

Склонение местоимений

Я думаю, что вам будет интересно узнать мнение опытных коллег по поводу вашей идеи. И не надо создавать личные шаблоны в основном пространстве. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 07:22, апрїлїꙗ 11 числа, 2016 (UTC)

Спасибо, а можете написать как правильно оформить путь (правильное название) пользевательского шаблона?

Кстати, аз токмо сейчас познакомился с конструкциею "ifeq".

P. S. Это не коллегия, а мы несм коллеги.

Ⱄⰵ ⰰⰸⱏ ⱃⰵⰽⱁⰿⱏ Ⰳⱃⰻⰳⱁⱃⰺⰻ ⱂⱐⱄⰰ · ⰱⰵⱄⱑⰴⰰ · ⰰ ⱍⰰⱄⱏ ⱀⱏⰺⱀⱑ ⰵⱄⱅⱏ ⱁⱀⱏ ⁖ ⰿⱑⱄⰵⱔⱌⱐ  · ⰴⱐⱀⱐ  · ⰾⱑⱅⱁ  ⁙

Вы заблокированы на 1 сутки, поскольку продолжили проблемную активность, не имеющую отношения к созданию энциклопедии. Я вас неоднократно предупреждал. Подписи, состоящие из большого объёма "мусорной разметки" (включая шаблоны и вызовы системных функций, создающие лишнюю неоправданную нагрузку на сервер) являются недопустимыми. У нас нет локального правила о подписях, но есть здравый смысл и опыт крупных разделов Википедии. Игнорирование аргументов с малоосмысленными комментариями о "коллегии" рассматриваю как троллинг, что в сочетании с уже существующими предупреждениями об аналогичной активности в обсуждениях нахожу достаточным основанием для блокировки. Цель Википедии заключается в создании энциклопедии, а не в экспериментах с разметкой и флуде. В дальнейшем буду блокировать по прогрессивной шкале. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 11:07, апрїлїꙗ 11 числа, 2016 (UTC)

О, несомненно, это было очень полезно заблокировать участника, отвечающего Вам же, на странице его личного обсуждения. Вы не имете права препятствовать моему экспериментированию, покуда оное не мешает другим. При повторении подобных инцидентов я буду вынужден жаловаться на Вас. Ⱄⰵ ⰰⰸⱏ ⱃⰵⰽⱁⰿⱏ Ⰳⱃⰻⰳⱁⱃⰺⰻ ⱂⱐⱄⰰ · ⰱⰵⱄⱑⰴⰰ · ⰰ ⱍⰰⱄⱏ ⱀⱏⰺⱀⱑ ⰵⱄⱅⱏ ⱁⱀⱏ ⁖ ⰿⱑⱄⰵⱔⱌⱐ ⰳ҃ · ⰴⱐⱀⱐ ⰰ҃ⰺ · ⰾⱑⱅⱁ ҂ⰱⰵ҃ⰺ ⁙

: Я вижу, что вы продолжаете заниматься игнорированием аргументов, которые вам не нравятся. Вы не были заблокированы за "экспериментирование", которое безусловно мешает, заполняя журнал свежих правок десятками мелких ботоподобных и малополезных правок (в Рувики вас бы давно попросили, а я же закрывал на это глаза). Вы были заблокированы по совокупности предупреждений за неконструктивное ведение дискуссий, демонстративное игнорирование аргументов, игры с правилами и отвлечение внимания (никто не собирается учить вас делать "пользовательские шаблоны", которые не имеют отношения к работе над проектом). Ваша угроза заняться сутяжничеством особенно печальна в свете того, что вы уже блокировались за сутяжничество на Викисловаре. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 20:44, апрїлїꙗ 11 числа, 2016 (UTC)

:: Не игнорирую я Ваши аргументы, каждому Вашему слову внемлю. С правилами не играю, вообще их не затрагивал. Сутяжничеством не угрожаю (при том что отстаивание справедливости оным не считается), а лишь глаголю, мол, полно Вам стопорить мою невредную деятельность. Оглянитесь вокруг: что журнал я захламляю Вам кажется от отсутствия правок других участников, а не от беспристанного конвейера моих. На других прожектах сие не заметно, бо участников там тьма; при этом же нигде не порицают и не хулят создающих шаблоны, да и просто экспериментирующих. Не мешайте мне, пожалуйста, созидать. А вреда я не несу, чтобы Вам не чудилось. Ⱄⰵ ⰰⰸⱏ ⱃⰵⰽⱁⰿⱏ Ⰳⱃⰻⰳⱁⱃⰺⰻ ⱂⱐⱄⰰ · ⰱⰵⱄⱑⰴⰰ · ⰰ ⱍⰰⱄⱏ ⱀⱏⰺⱀⱑ ⰵⱄⱅⱏ ⱁⱀⱏ ⁖ ⰿⱑⱄⰵⱔⱌⱐ ⰳ҃ · ⰴⱐⱀⱐ ⰱ҃ⰺ · ⰾⱑⱅⱁ ҂ⰱⰵ҃ⰺ ⁙

::: В течение полутора часов вы с интервалом в пару минут нагенерировали несколько десятков мелких правок, направленных на создание недопустимого формата подписи. Даже в русской Википедии, где много правок, подобна ботоподобная активность была бы заметна и стала бы предметом замечаний. Вместо "экспериментов" с зафлуживанием журналов, могли бы поэкспериментировать с предпросмотром правок, чтобы минимизировать шум от ваших тестов. Что касается иллюзий об отношении к создателям личных страниц и всяких экспериментаторов не по месту в крупных разделах, почитайте :ru:ВП:НЕХОСТИНГ. В любом крупном разделе вы бы уже на бессрочку наработали с подобным отношением, я боюсь. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 00:31, апрїлїꙗ 12 числа, 2016 (UTC)

:::: В первую очередь я искушал изученную мною конструкцию. В любом случае разместил я в своей песочнице не что иное, как непосредственно относящееся к Википедии. Уверен: никто бы и внимания не обратил на сие обычное для прожекта явление. Ⱄⰵ ⰰⰸⱏ ⱃⰵⰽⱁⰿⱏ Ⰳⱃⰻⰳⱁⱃⰺⰻ ⱂⱐⱄⰰ · ⰱⰵⱄⱑⰴⰰ · ⰰ ⱍⰰⱄⱏ ⱀⱏⰺⱀⱑ ⰵⱄⱅⱏ ⱁⱀⱏ ⁖ ⰿⱑⱄⰵⱔⱌⱐ ⰳ҃ · ⰴⱐⱀⱐ ⰱ҃ⰺ · ⰾⱑⱅⱁ ҂ⰱⰵ҃ⰺ ⁙

тꙑ ꙁаграждєнъ ѥси

https://cu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Польꙃєватєлꙗ бєсѣда:Γρηγόριος


Бєсѣда:Ꙁѡграфьска кънига

Что за вѣкꙑ?
Что за имѣтъ?
Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 11:56, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)

Веки исправил, да там двойственное число. Между "имѣти" (иметь) и "имати" (*имывать) две большие разницы. Как и между "пьсати" (писать) и писати" (писывать). ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 12:07, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)

: А там разве у веков не местный падеж должен быть? Я просто не понимаю что за форма здесь у имѣти. Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 12:16, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)

:: Почему-то исходил из "между" вместо "в". С глаголами я действительно напутал, спасибо, что обратили внимание. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 12:40, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Бєсѣда:Люѯємбоургъ

"Кси" использовалась только в заимствованных их греческого словах, разве не так? Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 12:03, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)

Сами греки его тоже используют на месте латинского X, так что экстраполяция представляется логичной с точки зрения того, как греческая орфография в целом влияла на старославянскую. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 12:17, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Бєсѣда:Ꙁнамѧ

В данном случае больше подходит прапоръ, нежели знамя, у знамени корень не с одним только этим значением. Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 12:10, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)

Я не вижу, чем "*роrроrъ связано чередованием гласных с *реrǫ «лечу, двигаюсь», перо́ (см. пере́ть \, перо́, пари́ть)" тут лучше в контексте госсимволики. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 12:20, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)

: В любом случае, прапоръ ближе к значению флага и использовался гораздо раньше знамени, кстати, по-моему не ꙁнамѧ, а ꙁнамѩ пишется, не так ли? Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 12:28, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)

:: Нет, это в кривых оцифровках Фасмера иногда вылезает ѩ вместо ѧ. Там именно ѧ. Ꙁнамѧ, врѣмѧ и т.д. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 12:44, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)

::: А что с прапором? Его-то искони использовали. Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 12:47, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)

:::: Для военных флагов, если когда о них речь зайдёт, можно использовать "прапоръ". Это его исконный смысл, потому что национальных флагов в ту эпоху не было. А здесь не поломано и чинить не нужно. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 12:54, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)

::::: Конечно, не сломано, но всегда можно подобрать более удачное слово. Хоругвь, например, правда ходят слухи, что это тюркское. Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 13:03, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)

:::::: Хорѫгꙑ — исключительно религиозное знамя. Сочетание знамя+знак очень хорошо передаёт современный смысл государственной символики, которая в целом является признаком Нового времени. Синонимов не надо бояться, потому что мы всегда можем объяснить в отдельной статье, что имеется в виду под этим словом. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 13:11, дєкємврїꙗ 5 числа, 2015 (UTC)


Бєсѣда:Кънѧꙃь

Это слово крайне не подходит, так как явно представляет из себя позднее заимствование, предлагаю бояр. Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 04:17, дєкємврїꙗ 8 числа, 2015 (UTC)

Бояре — лишь один тип аристократии, в то время как титул "князя" сохранялся и после упразднения боярства, поэтому использование более общего термина всецело оправдано. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 17:41, дєкємврїꙗ 8 числа, 2015 (UTC)

: Боярином называли всякого аристократа, это на Руси сформировался устойчивый класс, позже "боярин" перешёл в "барин" и использовался паки же для обозначения дворянина(хозяина), соответственно. У нас же здесь старославянский язык, а не древнерусский, и мы используем именно его слова чтобы описать мир. В старославянском полно своих слов для описания чего-либо, просто глупо заимствовать слова, когда суть свои. Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 20:52, дєкємврїꙗ 8 числа, 2015 (UTC)

Что за слово такое? Всегда господином или господом их звали. Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 04:26, дєкємврїꙗ 8 числа, 2015 (UTC)

Это слово присутствует в Супрасльской рукописи именно в этом значении. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 17:45, дєкємврїꙗ 8 числа, 2015 (UTC)

: Однако, оные имели большее хождениее, и выражают точный смысл, нежели "правого людина". Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 21:13, дєкємврїꙗ 8 числа, 2015 (UTC)

:: Очень точный смысл. И церковный иерарх — «господин», и местечковый феодал — «господин», и какой-нибудь произвольный богач — «господин», и Великий Новгород — «господин», и даже Бог — «господин». Даже «чьловѣкъ» поточнее будет, потому что этак хоть Боженька с Новгородом исключаются. Ѳєрапѡнтъ Соꙋсовъ (бєсѣда) 22:21, дєкємврїꙗ 8 числа, 2015 (UTC)
 А вот нет, дело тут в другом: церковный иерарх - правитель, местечковый феодал - правитель, произвольный богач тоже, насчёт Великого Новгорода не знаю, можно ли его назвать, "правителем", бога думаю тоже можно. Правитель это тот, кто правдую несёт, устанавливает, или же сам прав?
* Хочу привести пример из истории: когда приехали два низких чина с какой-то с петицией к Ивану 3, да назвали его господарём, как будто он ими правил, хотя он уже являлся их господином по договору 1471(тем, кому новгородцы служили, но кто ими не правил), однако в Новгороде было вечевое правление, без постоянного господаря, Иван послал к ним с разъяснениями, и потребовал его признать госпадарём, а не господином, новгородцы отказались, так после этого новгород и захватили. ВИДИТЕ, как велико было значение и УПОТРЕБЛЕНИЕ этих слов. Вот, впрочем, ссылка на вариант этой истории:http://protown.ru/information/hide/6854.html.
Господарством так же называли некоторые славянские государства, так как в них господарь(правитель) был. Производные от -господ- имеют гораздо более точный смысл, нежели "правитель", другое дело что господом мог быть кто угодно, но в этом проблемы нет. По анологии: наш русский "президент", это может быть и президент компании и страны, да и вообще с латинского это значит "глава". В любом случае, выглядит неуклюжо использовать такие слова, когда суть слова, которые и по смыслу более подходят и ходят во всех славянских странах и вообще для определённых целей предназначены. Γρηγόριος (бєсѣда) 08:53, дєкємврїꙗ 9 числа, 2015 (UTC)
=== Итог ===
Из Старославянского словаря:
* Правитєл҄ь — тот кто ведёт, предводитель, вождь
* Господинъ — господин, хозяин (в том числе, домоу, храма(!))
Как и было замечено выше, первое больше подходит для лидера государства (особенно современных, которые хозяевами государства не являются), в то время как второе просто обозначает любого владетельного человека. ОилЪ (бєсѣда) 15:48, дєкємврїꙗ 9 числа, 2015 (UTC)