Plé úsáideora:Guliolopez/Cartlann 5

Is Dublin Airport convenient to your location? If so, would you mind photographing the headquarter buildings of Aer Lingus and Ryanair (each airline has one building) - Thank you WhisperToMe 16:54, 23 Mí na Nollag 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm unlikely to be able to do/get to this. Guliolopez 03:17, 3 Eanáir 2010 (UTC)

:Thanks anyway :) WhisperToMe 16:59, 8 Feabhra 2010 (UTC)

Dunno what's going on there, but I do see the problem. It's likely to be something in Common.css - I'll have a dig around over the next day or so and try to fix it. We really kinda need that template - Alison ❤ 22:03, 1 Eanáir 2010 (UTC)

Cheers. Another thing that might be common.css related is why :Teimpléad:Side box spans the entire page. Instead of being right aligned in the same way as its EN cousin (which has exactly the same syntax). Guliolopez 03:17, 3 Eanáir 2010 (UTC)

:OK - I think I've solved both of those. But you might want to double check (in case I mucked up something else).... Guliolopez 03:25, 3 Eanáir 2010 (UTC)

Fuair mé an teachtaireacht a sheol tú, déanfaidh mé iarracht comhrá as Gaeilge (Beatha teanga í a labhairt srl), cé nach bhfuil mé líofa.
*Is míthuiscint an íosluchtú mí ceart, (Is dócha go bhfuil muid ag caint faoin Íomhá:Lógó_an_CLG.svg) I honestly don't know how I uploaded the wrong one, I looked at the CLG page, and it looked fine. My apologies
*D'féach mé ar ais, agus feicim nár chur mé aon clib cóipceart ar an Íomhá seo Íomhá:Meadú ar ráta breithe 98-07.gif. Bhí sé mar meoin agam fáil amach: What permissions exist from reports etc released by the Irish Government?, Dála an scéal, rinne mé graif eile don alt, agus mar sin, is féidir é a scrois anois. But also, there is a limited number of Copyright templates, in this case (had CSO data not been available - perhaps in case of a HSE specific graph) I didn't know which Copyright template to use
*Looking at the images on this page again Vicipéid:Íomhá_Greannmhar, none fit the fair use policy, ie there is no educational benifit, feel free to delete!
Rinne mé iarracht treoireacha do shaghas éigin a tosú ar an leathanach Vicipéid:Leathanach_tuairiscithe_íomhá, Ceapaim go bhfuil easpa treoir ann don úsáideoir nua, so, má tá am agat (nuair nach bhfuil tú ag ceartú mo chuid botún! :) ) ceapaim gur fiú na treoireacha a chur ar fáil. Cliste

... are slightly briste right now, for some reason. One of our Mediawiki updates seems to have destroyed the format. I tried updating some stuff but it's not right yet - Alison ❤ 05:34, 27 Eanáir 2010 (UTC)

Ya. I noticed that on an Róimh a few days ago. I had a quick look at the CSS and templates to see what might be causing it, but nothing leapt out. I had intended to come back and review again, but promptly forgot about it. Guliolopez 10:49, 27 Eanáir 2010 (UTC)

Fuair me teachtaireacht uait faoi íomhanna a chruthaigh mé. Is léir go bhfuil fadhb le cóipcheart ach ní thuigim cad is cóir dom a dhéanamh. Do chruthaigh mé iad mé féin, mar shampla ar paradacsa simpson. Is iad seo na céid íomhanna a rinne mé agus níl rialacha vicipéid ar eolas agam fós. GRMAJP2JP2 22:31, 7 Feabhra 2010 (UTC)

A chara! Táim ag iarraidh beagán ord a chur ar an iliomad ailt atá againn leis an IRA, Óglaigh na hÉireann agus araile. Sílim gur cheart dúinn alt amháin a bheith ann faoin ainm 'Óglaigh na hÉireann', le heolas ann faoi na grúpaí éagsúla a bhaineann úsáid as. É sin déanta, ba cheart gach leathanach eile a ainmniú le teideal níos cruinne - Óglaigh na hÉireann (1913-1919), Óglaigh na hÉireann (1919-1922), Óglaigh na hÉireann (1922-1969) agus araile. Ach, nuair a dhéanaim iarracht alt a dhéanamh leis an teideal Óglaigh na hÉireann, deirtear go bhfuil ceann ann cheana, mar tá re-direct déanta ó na cinn eile. Aon chomhairle agatsa? GRMA! --Antóin 21:18, 11 Feabhra 2010 (UTC)

Caithfidh tú an leathanach athsheolaidh Óglaigh na hÉireann a scriosadh agus ansin is féidir an athainmniú a dhéanamh. --Footyfanatic3000 21:35, 11 Feabhra 2010 (UTC)

Ceart agat, a chara, dealraítear go bhfuil sé chomh simplí sin. GRMA! --Antóin 10:49, 12 Feabhra 2010 (UTC)

: Haha GRMA :) --Footyfanatic3000 00:12, 13 Feabhra 2010 (UTC)

Is there any way to make sure that the article about Ivan Bunin will in fact be the 10,000th article? Thanks, Footyfanatic3000 01:39, 15 Feabhra 2010 (UTC).
* We can all watch really closely & move it into mainspace just as the article count clocks over - Alison ❤ 08:10, 15 Feabhra 2010 (UTC)

Idk if you've been watching over on the EN side of the world, but I've finished listing out the National Monuments of Ireland. I commented on the talk page there, so if you'd like to respond, your thoughts would be appreciated. I probably won't look at this GA watchlist, so if you'd like to respond to me directly, you can do so at my EN talk page. Thanks! --Dudemanfellabra 17:07, 1 Márta 2010 (UTC)

Just to let you know this user, Tanansp, who has created a lot of Google Translate articles has been doing this on many other wikis, as you can see from this user's SUL. He/she has been warned on the other wikis, and is now even blocked for three months on the Welsh wiki.
Maybe we should warn this user here? This editor, unlike most others doesn't seem to have good intentions... --Footyfanatic3000 23:23, 17 Márta 2010 (UTC)

Thug Antóin rabhadh dó inné. Guliolopez 00:07, 18 Márta 2010 (UTC)

Hi Guliolopez. I was wondering if you could take a look at http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Bandiera at some stage and see if it's possible to use it in improving the Bratach template on here. That Italian template seems to successfully get around the problem you cited on the Bratach page regarding the labelling convention on WM-Commons.
It uses the same images but allows for names to be entered in Italian, pops up country names in Italian when you move your mouse over the image and is capable of producing a country's name in Italian beside its flag by merely specifying |nome. It would be nice to have those facilities on here especially the last one, which is invaluable when creating or using other templates. Go raibh maith agat. Onetonycousins 04:45, 13 Bealtaine 2010 (UTC)

If yourself or one of the other administrators could update the css and js to enable this template using this image, that would be great. Onetonycousins 14:16, 6 Meitheamh 2010 (UTC)

bhí mé ag ceapadh go mbeidh sé go maith dá mbeadh an alt seo mar an alt roghnaithe ar an príomh leathanach ach níl mo chuid gaeilge maith go leoir do sin ach pé scéal é rinne mé é seo don alt Úsáideoir:Spaircí/Corn FIFA An Domhain 2010 céard a cheapann tú? tá an chead leath (babhta na ngrúpaí) réidh ach ní raibh a fhois agam céard é an tslí is fearr leis an dara leath a dhéanamh ó thaobh na teimpléid srl.
--Spaircí 10:34, 8 Meitheamh 2010 (UTC)

First of all I beg your pardon because I don't speak Irish (I wish I could). I'd like to ask you a favor, I'm a member of a Catalan association that wishes to become a Chapter but that has been rejected up to this moment because it doesn't have a state! So if you could translate the following template (add the Irish where there is Catalan or English if you prefer it that way!) I would then work on a campaign to convince your fellow Wikipedians to stick it to their introductory page. Go raibh maith agat! Slán agat! May you have a great and warm summer, Capsot 17:48, 8 Meitheamh 2010 (UTC)
	suport al chapter Wikimedia CAT.I vós? Si us plau, signeu en senyal de suport.I support the Wikimedia CAT chapter.Don't you? Please, give us your support.
I had asked someone else previously but either he didn't have time or didn't see it or didn't care (actually he was the second, the first one obviously didn't care at all...). I hope I am not bothering you (tell me if that should be the case!). May your great culture, language and music live long and enchant us! Capsot 21:48, 13 Meitheamh 2010 (UTC)

Well, it seems like everyone is either too busy here or that Irish is way too important a language to take care of minorized languages. Just let me know if you just forgot or if you don't care, please, so I can keep on begging support that other Wikipedias have given me a long time ago. Thanks, even though I seem to get no reply here I sincerely hope all your contributions will help Irish become a stronger language. Have a good night, week and summer, slán agat Capsot 21:19, 17 Meitheamh 2010 (UTC)
féach mo leathanach Eomurchadha

Aon réiteach ar an bhfadhb seo?
Go raibh maith agat! Mangaire

Guliolopez 10:49, 2 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

I notice you have tagged several of my articles with an "original research" tag obviously meaning that this is unacceptable.  You might well live in an area where there is nothing that can't be proven by references on the internet, where literally everything has been written about, has been investigated by hundreds or thousands of people.  I don't.  This area is remote - many things about it are generally unknown, no archaeological investigations have been carried out in Kilcommon - all monies have gone to Seamus Caulfield in the eastern area of North Mayo and in a different parish.  My parish in unexplored, under-funded, under-investigated, under-appreciated, exploited and in danger of destruction.  A far more suitable site for the Corrib Gas Project (in which you seem to have substantial interest!!??!!) is Belderrig but do you know this - somebody in power in Ireland has a holiday home there, so why do you think this corrupt project is shoved off to the west to a site proving to be utterly unsuitable??  Do you know that Westport is a far more suitable landfall site for the Corrib Gas project?  So why isn't it there?  Think about it a little!
So, yes, Guliolopez - some of my research is original - but I hope you can learn to appreciate that this makes it all the more interesting, appropriate and better.  We have walked the mountains, we have searched the remotest areas, we have lain on wet grass pulling grass and weeds off massive stone megalithic capstones, unknown, unrecorded, unprotected, hidden by the encroaching blanket bog and lay on the ground putting our arms in underneath them and finding orthostats unseen by humans since neolithic times when they were built and we have found hillsides of blanket bog which conceal twenty or more unknown megalithic tombs and God knows what else on their slopes - things that no other human living on earth nowadays knows about.
So, yes, some of what I write here is original research - carried out by local people qualified in archaeology but not the hob-nobs of archaeological society.  We work at documenting this on a budget of €NIL €ZERO €00.00 - except blood, sweat and tears while Caulfield directs all archaeological funding into his own pet projects around his holiday home.  Talk about CONFLICT OF INTERESTS - you don't know the half of it!!
Caulfield has been told of the court tomb in Faulagh townland with the carvings on it.  The manager of the Ceide Fields has been told about it too and they have been asked to come to the area and look.  The result - REFUSAL!!  Why?  Some of their money for their own area might have to be spent in this area if this became public knowledge!!
Bad enough to have to battle corruption everywhere else.  The battle with our corrupt society goes right down to ignoring reality if it might downgrade your own pet project and draw attention (and money) away from it - i.e. Ceide Fields!.
I ask you to please allow me to have a little space for original research!!  I'm writing the truth and the facts.  If you don't like it then that is your problem and you should realise that you don't know everything because Ireland is a corrupt and untruthful place and many in power are deeply corrupted and dishonest!  Talk about neutral point of view - you don't know the meaning of the word in relation to the archaeology of north Mayo.
And I seem to recollect that you removed a picture of bottlenose dolphins from the Broadhaven Bay article because the photograph was taken off the Scottish coast, not in Broadhaven Bay.  This is so silly of you because it would take less than half an hour for those self same dolphins to be in Broadhaven Bay.  Do you think the sea has borders?   Dolphins come in regularly to take a look at Shell's destruction of our beautiful bay even now!!   I don't have a good camera with zoom lens etc....  the other day there was a pod of about eight dolphins in the bay - one of them was an albino - I was watching them through my bird spotter monocular bought from Aldi - but it doesn't take good pictures I'm afraid!
Maybe you would have time to come to Kilcommon (Kilcommon Lodge Hostel does excellent cheap and cheerful accommodation in Pollathomas) and lie on your belly too and feel the orthostats in unknown megaliths with your arms too, groping around in the dark looking into the secrets lying under the blanket bogs of north Mayo??  I honestly think you need to get to grips with nature a great deal more and be a little less petty about things like dolphins not being in Broadhaven Bay when photographed!!  Maybe you would have one of your old cameras to give me with good zoom lens so that I can take those pictures you tell me I should be taking??
Comhar 11:45, 12 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

Wow. Thanks for all that. Appreciate you taking the time to explain your thinking and where you're coming from. Just a few quick things:

* Caulfield: I don't know who this Caulfield person is, or what he's got to do with anything, and I'm not sure it matters. If you don't mind (for BLP reasons) I may "hide" some of the above from my talk page in due course.

* OR: Yes, its probably true that there are probably more and varied books covering those topics that I'm interested in - and so its easier for me to turn around, grab one off the shelf, and verify or cite a fact. In that way I'm probably a little better equipped to back stuff up. And I appreciate that it may not be as easy for others. However it's worth pointing out that WP:OR (that "all material in Wikipedia must be attributable to a reliable, published source") is not my rule. It's Wikipedia's rule.

* COI: Yes - I do have personal opinions on the Corrib situation. And you may even be surprised by what "camp" I'm in. However neither I (nor anyone else) should put those interests/opinions over those of this project. The project is supposed to remain neutral/factual/etc. So, if you see me tempering commentary or uncited opinion (no matter what "argument" it supports), please take it as an attempt to follow the principles of this project. Not to knock down or build up any side of any argument.

* Erris: I've been to Erris. Granted it was 15 years ago or more. And I'll be delighted to go back. Havn't taken my 2010 hols yet, and may even take you up on your offer. If I do take the spin I'll ping you for some thoughts on what do do and where to go, etc.

* AGF/NPA: Finally, and apologies if I did something to offend, but please keep NPA and AGF in mind as you continue on your editting journey.

Le meas. Guliolopez 14:32, 12 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

Teimpléad:Bosca Sonraí Comhphobail na Spáinne
Céard a cheapann tú bhfuil sé maith go leoir...? an rachfaidh méar aighead len é a chuir leis na hailt go léir.
--212.129.91.30 17:43, 12 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

Bain úsáid as in alt amháin ar dtús. Asturias mar shampla. Guliolopez 18:17, 12 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

Cén fath an gceapann tú gur spam atá i mo chuid links?
Níl aon fógraíocht ar an suíomh agam ar chor ar bith.
Curann na griafanna seo go mór leis an eolas atá ann faoi W.B Yeats.
Ar aon chaoi ma sin é do thuairm, ní feidir liom faic a dheanamh, nó an feidir?

Ní féidir. Ar léigh tú na dtreoirlíne anseo: WP:LINKSPAM? Go simplí: "Adding external links to an article or user page for the purpose of promoting a website or a product is not allowed, and is considered to be spam". Níl tú ag iarraidh an tionscadal seo a bhfeabhsú. Tá tú ag iarraidh do ghréasán féin a chur chun cinn. That is spamming. That is not allowed. Sin é. Guliolopez 17:22, 15 Iúil 2010 (UTC)
Ceart go leor, ach is mór an trua é mar go cailleadh daoine amach ar na radharcanna agus na suíomhanna a spreag an file.
Bhain tú amach na links ar fad a chur mé isteach do Co. an Chlár, caith tú admhail go dtugann na griafanna seo tuiscint níos fearr do daoine a bheadh suim acu san aiteanna atá luaite sa leathnacha wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dialinn (talk • contribs) 20:44, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Luaigh tú "Níl tú ag iarraidh an tionscadal seo a bhfeabhsú". Iarann tú an ráiteas sin mar is fíric atá ann, is tuarim maslach atá ann, tá mé ag iarradh an tionscadal a fheasú, sin é an fath a chur mé na griafanna 360 sin isteach ar leathnach béal na mblath agus ar co. an chlár.

Excuse me Guliolopez but could you tell me what the plural of láithreas (appearance) is: láithris, láithreasa, láithreais, rud eile? Dictionaries have nothing. Onetonycousins 22:53, 18 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

Sa spóirt? Bhféidir feidhmiúcháin (performance(s)) nó rannpháirtíochta (participation(s))? Cad faoi "cluichí" mar atá in úsáid anseo: :Teimpléad:Imreoir CLG bosca eolais? Guliolopez 22:32, 19 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

:My preferred choice would be Láithris and a google search indicates that it (láithreas) is/has been used in the context of sports,  but if it wasn't suitable then I'd probably go with feidhmiúcháin. Láithris seems to be used in relation to court appearances, which seems apt to me as one could view a sporting contest as a trial. Is there a specific reason why it doesn't sit right? Onetonycousins 00:02, 20 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

::It just doesn't sound right somehow. A bit artificial. I just can't hear Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh saying it. What's the context? Maybe if could see it in context might help. Are you putting it in an infobox? If so, what's wrong with "cluichí" to indicate games they've played in? (FYI That BBC website uses semi-autotranslated plodding Irish. Take the heading on that page: "HEorpaigh tuilleadh súil WGC rath". WTF? Wouldn't take anything on that as reasonable precedent.) Guliolopez 20:25, 20 Iúil 2010 (UTC)
If you fill in the láithris parameter in the infobox on this page with a random name and preview it, you'll see the context. I changed it to appearance record (for the season). I've used "cluichí" on its own in a player infobox where no explanation was needed but this is a team season box and space is at a premium. Is mó cluichí a d'imir (excuse me if that's incorrect) would be a last resort. I understand where you're coming from regarding instances like this but I reckon that necessity plays a part in how languages evolve. If it's grammatically correct then I think it's a small but positive addition to the Irish language. I'm sure Mícheál would agree. Onetonycousins 06:46, 21 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

An mbeadh sé ceart go leor griangrafana a chur isteach ar leathnacha seandálóchta?

Gach cás ar a fhiúntas féin! Guliolopez 20:06, 20 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

Any chance you could configure Navbox so that it uses the entire page width? Go raibh maith agat. Onetonycousins 04:30, 26 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

You can do it yourself. Just add the following to any navbox template which uses the default navbox format: "|style = width:90%". Or tell me what navbox you want to widen and I can take a look. Guliolopez 18:05, 26 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

:It's Teimpléad:Séasúir Shamrock Rovers Football Club. I'd prefer it to stretch from the left margin to the right. Go raibh maith agat. Onetonycousins 09:53, 27 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

Why have you removed the Cork City U-20 squad? This is similar to a reserve team of a bigger club (for example Arsenal F.C. who have a reserves section. Both Rory Morrisey and Willie Heffernan, who have made appearances in the first team this season, are now in our "reserve" squad and subsequently don't have first team numbers anymore, but won't appear on the webpage now the U-20s squad has been removed. A number of the players who have signed may appear in the first team during the rest of the season also-albeit, this seems unlikely to me. I had added the section-but not pages behind for the majority of players in it, as I feel it is of relevance to Cork City fans, and also it will make it easier to add players as they move from the u-20s team to the first team squad. I wish to request the return of the U-20s section based on these reasons if possible. Kind Regards, --Joseph McSweeney 23:09, 26 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I removed it for several reasons. (Same reasons I noted in the edit summary). The main reasons - in order - were/are:

# Per WP:ATH, youth players/reserves typically don't meet the notability criteria (unless on their own merits).

# Per WP:VER, no cites were provided for that section.

# The intro and content of the section didn't seem accurate. It stated "The following players are eligible for the first team but are in the U-20 squad." And then went on to list the entire youth squad. Are they all eligible? I wouldn't have thought so.

# Similarly certain individual member entries seemed suspect. EG: Heffernan has been 21 since the start of the season - and yet is listed as eligible for the U-20 squad(?)

# And finally - precedent. You mention that the Arsenal F.C. article mentions Reserve/Youth players. This may be true - but only where they individually meet WP:GNG. You might notice that none (that I can see) of the other LOI articles mention Youth teams - likely because LOI youth squad players typically DON'T meet the GNG.

Anyway, long story short, my reading of the guidelines suggests that the section doesn't belong. Not in the form it was there. And not in any form that I can think of. Hence I removed it. Sin a bhfuil. Guliolopez 23:42, 26 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

:Hi

:#Fair enough on removing the list of players who don't meet the criteria then, no arguments from me. Its a little bullish though maybe to remove the section entirely, why should the two aforementioned players be removed from the site entirely when they've already played this season and made the bench subsequently?

:#I sadly don't have a reference that is good enough. The squad list was mailed out to FORAS Co-Operative members only, and I added the list as I felt it was relevant to our club-especially those who aren't members of FORAS. Apologies for the lack of a cite.

:#Well they can all play in the senior team, if our manager chooses to pick them! So technically yes, they are all eligible for the first team. The LOI rulebook is a poorly written thing (hence the numerous number changes this season), and there is nothing stopping players representing in both. Athlone Town have a used a number of players in both competitions this season for example. Even so, I feel its important to list both Rory and Willie on the site as both have played for the senior side this season and are now in our U-20s squad-I would be more than happy for every name to be removed except their names if this is an acceptable compromise?

:#He was 20 at the turn of the year, therefore is eligible. This is the same in every level in Ireland-from the bottom leagues to the U-23 National team (see Stephen O'Donnell who recently represented Ireland despite now being 24). He only turned 21 on the 19th of April, so he is eligible for the U-20s section this season. We have released several players (Eoin Forde, Wesley Tonge, etc) because they were not eligible for the U-20s and deemed surplus in the senior set-up.

:#Would the two players who have played senior football this season not be eligible then? I can accept the other names being removed. I included the names but not pages behind as I thought this might be acceptable (to have the information listed simply as a line of text rather than a fairly pointless page for a youth player).

:#I can accept the lack of precedent but it seems tough to set one if things keep being deleted! :D

:I feel that we should at least have an U-20s section containing Willie and Rory at the very least, as it seems shameful not to have both listed on the page. Its relevant information for an encyclopedic site to have I feel! Joseph McSweeney 01:45, 27 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

::Creating their own table (just for two players) is inviting issues. If they've played competitively for the first team, then I see no problem including them in the "current squad" table. Perhaps after Piechnik as "unnumbered" extended squad memebers? In the same way that Kerr/Meenan/McMahon show on the Drogs article? Guliolopez 09:59, 27 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

:::I had a number of players in the current squad section in such a manner for a time (Morrisey, Forde, Dineen, etc), but it looks very untidy I feel, hence why I'd Mcreated a separate section. What issues do you think this would be creating? Conversely I could create a separate page entirely outlining Cork City's Youth team and season if that would be useful? Joseph McSweeney 13:31, 27 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

:::: The problem with a separate section is that it invites expansion. And that leads to non-notable (if good faith) submissions. (Exactly this happened on the CCFC article. It was a list of reserve/youth players who met ATH by playing for the first team. It became a list of all youth players. Notable or not.) I wouldn't recommend creating a separate page as a means of addressing this problem. Not least because - as you note - it can't be supported with refs. Best to just put them in the existing table - "untidy" or not. We already get lots of "noise" (see this for example) from editors who believe that ALL LOI player profiles are worthy of AfD. Start introducing articles on non-pro youth teams into the mix and it will likely attract unwanted attention of the "LOI is not fully-pro, therefore wave the delete brush wildly" variety. And that brush will sweep further than youth teams/players. In short: Keep it within NN and ATH - otherwise risk unwanted attention/debate. Guliolopez 14:52, 27 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

:::::Fair enough in my book, I remember those arguments at the time. They were very frustrating. I'll just add them at the end of the first team so. Cheers for explaining the reasoning though! Its much appreciated. Thanks, Joseph McSweeney 15:27, 27 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

Tá duine eigin ag ligeann air féin go mise atá ann ar an suíomh seo. An mbeadh tú inann comhairle a chur orm conas an athrú a dhéan sé a athrú ar ais. Sé an usaideoir na Diallin, tá mise ag úsaid dialinn.

Tá mearbhall orm. Cad atá ar súil? Cad atá uait? Guliolopez 23:27, 10 Meán Fómhair 2010 (UTC)
Tá mearbhall ormsa fresin, mar go fhuil duine éigin ag athrú mo chuid eagarthoireacht agus ag úsaid an username an chosúil le mo cheannsa.
Níl mé ag iarradh do am a chur amú faoi seo, ach ba mhaith liom fáil amach má chuireann mé ina cheart an eagarthoireacht a dhéan Diallin, né bheidh cosc orm aon eagarthoireacht a dheanamh sa todhchaí. Sin é an méid.

Hi Guliolopez, I edited the template because I thought it looked very poor. At the end of the day, this encyclopedia will stand or fall on the strength and reliability of its content but first you have to draw people to the content. I strongly believe that sharp and structured infoboxes, navboxes, visual aids, etc. can help in this regard. I'd be delighted if the core "infobox" CSS style was updated to something like the edited actor infobox. I know some other wikis use a similar style. I'd also be delighted if the navboxes used the full width of the page and the alternative (smaller) reference list arrows were restored. If you feel that my edits to the actor template should be undone, then fire away. Sláinte. Onetonycousins 08:34, 28 Meán Fómhair 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Can you be more specific about why you think it looks "very poor"? I totally agree that visuals are important - which is in fact why I think we need to be consistent and measured in our application of styles and design artefacts. I appreciate that there is a subjectiveness involved, but personally I think that the simple clean infobox we had (and have for all other bio infoboxes) is fine. You mention that "other wikis use a similar style". However, when I look at the actor infoboxes used by other all other wikis (EG: en, el, cy, cs, bs, es, eu, is, sv, etc) I find that none of them use a style similar to the grey background you have applied to the lefthand "label" section here. Certainly some use a background colour for the subject line, but even then it is tempered and measured in it's use. For these reasons I will (as you suggest) temper some of your changes a bit.

In regards to the point about "navboxes us[ing] the full width of the page", and "reference list arrows [being] restored", can you advise what you're talking about here? Possibly pointing to an example article or navbox? If you can point out any specific issues or bugs, I'd be happy to help address. Beir bua leis. Guliolopez 18:44, 28 Meán Fómhair 2010 (UTC)
Hi Guliolopez, in my opinion the actor infobox looks very sloppy and half assed. I'm not a big fan of the labels being center aligned. I think they look much better lined up against the left border of the box and increase readability. Even right aligned would be better than center in my opinion. I also think that some form of padding/spacing helps with aesthetics and readability. It gives an infobox a really clear structure. Finally, I often prefer a smaller font (88%) but that's purely a personal preference.

:OK. I think I'm following you now. As it happens the labels are actually supposed to be left aligned. And in fact look left aligned on the browsers I have tested with. However just looking at the CSS and style classes used, I see that it may have some bugs/issues in it. I'll take a look at this. (As a matter of interest, what OS/Browser are you using that you are not seeing them left aligned?) Guliolopez 11:53, 29 Meán Fómhair 2010 (UTC)
An example of "my kind of infobox": :pt:Jennifer Aniston. When I mentioned other wikis using a similar style I was talking about their core CSS style rather than a specific infobox.

:While I personally find the PT style infobox a bit busy, and the use of colour a little overdone, there may be a compromise between that style and the one used here and on EN wiki. Whatever we do however it should be consistent with other bio infoboxes. Hence I think we should be looking at creating/updating the base infobox/vcard styles, and not hardcoding HTML in individual infoboxes. Guliolopez 11:53, 29 Meán Fómhair 2010 (UTC)
Regarding the arrows in the reflists, if you have a look at the reflist in :pt:Jennifer Aniston and then its english language equivalent, you'll notice two different styles of arrow beside the numbering in the lists. I think the one in use on the english language wiki looks better and Alison kindly changed it at my request before. It has since changed back (since the recent update). It's only a small thing so whatever you want.

:I think I'm following this. I'll take a look. Guliolopez 11:53, 29 Meán Fómhair 2010 (UTC)
On the navboxes, I prefer this to this.

:OK. I'll take a look at the default width style used by the NAVBOX class and see what can be done. In the meantime you can force the width with a style parameter similar to the below. Cheers Guliolopez 11:53, 29 Meán Fómhair 2010 (UTC)

Go raibh maith agat. Onetonycousins 08:43, 29 Meán Fómhair 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your time and help Guliolopez, much appreciated. I'm using Internet Explorer 8 and have had the odd minor issue with display on Wikipedia in the past. Onetonycousins 12:33, 29 Meán Fómhair 2010 (UTC)

Hey thanks for helping out on this article! AJona1992 02:30, 9 Deireadh Fómhair 2010 (UTC)

Hi Guliolopez, I see you moved Hrvatski nogometni klub Hajduk Split to an abbreviated name, citing the english language wikipedia's COMMONNAME convention. I've two issues with this. One, I am not aware of such a rule on Vicipéid or how severely it should be applied. Two, HNK Hajduk Split isn't a common name anyway, it's an abbreviated name. Hajduk Split would be a common name but if we were to title pages like that then we would have pages like Man United and Inter Milan, presuming that those are indeed common names as Gaeilge. I agree with abbreviating titles where the title is too long but I don't think that applies here. Sláinte. Onetonycousins 20:22, 25 Deireadh Fómhair 2010 (UTC)

Hi. (1) We do apply a COMMONNAME convention here. It's not enshrined, but we do follow/apply one. (2) Just about every other Wiki (including the local project) uses "HNK Hajduk Split" rather than the long form. (3) I'm not sure "Man Utd" or "Inter" are valid corollaries. While those abbreviations are in common use "verbally", the relevant clubs and leagues don't typically refer to themselves as "Man Utd" or "Inter". On the other hand, the club itself, the relevant league, and UEFA all use short forms of "HNK Hajduk Split". In summary, it's probably better to use the most common officially sanctioned form - over long/verbose/overly formal names. Guliolopez 22:42, 25 Deireadh Fómhair 2010 (UTC)
Hi Guliolopez, thanks for the reply. While I disagree with most of your reply, citing Club Atlético de Madrid, the local project, its website and UEFA, I take it that you think "Hrvatski nogometni klub Hajduk Split" is too long and/or overly formal so I'll reluctantly go along with "HNK Hajduk Split", just like so many wikis go along with the english language wiki's problematic policy of abbreviation. Sláinte. Onetonycousins 23:14, 26 Deireadh Fómhair 2010 (UTC)

A chara, níor gha an nasc fein faoi fhóineolaíocht na Gaeilge a bhaint, anois ní rithfidh sé le duine an t-alt a scríobh. nach féidir díreach an t-ábhar air a scrios? ~~

Haigh. B'fhéidir go raibh mé ró-thapa, ach bhí ceisteanna bailí ag eagarthóir eile faoi "DB-G1". ("Pages consisting entirely of incoherent text [are eligible for speedy deletion]"). Athchóireoidh mé go "sandbox" ar do leathanach féin, ach ba chóir é a feabhsú sular é a athchóireofar go hiomlán... Guliolopez 16:38, 3 Mí na Samhna 2010 (UTC)

A dhuine tá neamhord fíoréagsúil ó ghalar go cinnte. Ná déantar iad a chumascadh. Táim ag cur le cúrsaí an leighis i láthair na huaire agus ní theastaíonn seo chor ar bith. Fiú ó thaobh téármaíochta tá bearna ollmhór céille idir neamhord agus galar. 19:02, 7 Mí na Samhna 2010 (UTC)

Ceart go leor. Ach ba chóir go mbeadh an réasúnaíocht/difríocht soiléir sna hailt féin... Guliolopez 14:58, 8 Mí na Samhna 2010 (UTC)

Tá náire orm mar gheall ar an mhoill! Tá cearta maoirseachta agat (agus ag Alison) anois. --Gabriel Beecham 02:42, 17 Mí na Nollag 2010 (UTC)
* Chomhgáirdeas leat! :) - Alison ❤ 05:20, 17 Mí na Nollag 2010 (UTC)

:GRMA! Guliolopez 11:51, 17 Mí na Nollag 2010 (UTC)

Ní mise a chuir an abairt úd leis ar an gcéad dul síos, ach bhraitheas go raibh síol an eolais ann, is chuireas beagán leis ionas nach n-imeoidh an duine a chur ann é ón suíomh ag ceapadh nach bhfuil a c(h)uid cabhrach ag teastail, b'fhearr díreach cur ar súile an duine sin an tabhacht a bhaineann le heolas cruinn, beacht srl, srl. Nílim ag iarraidh cur as duit ach díreach bí fáilteach roimh ionchur dhaoine, ba léir iarracht mhacánta an úsáideora ann. Eomurchadha 01:35, 15 Eanáir 2011 (UTC)

Grand. GRMA. Guliolopez 14:46, 15 Eanáir 2011 (UTC)

Hello Guliolopez. Can you help us to translate and upload on ga.wikipedia this page ? It is very important for us.:)). Thanks a lot--Aeron10 18:27, 20 Eanáir 2011 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for your interest in the GA project. Unfortunately as a general rule I (personally) don't like to act on requests such as yours - as it feels a little like spam/canvassing, raises notability questions, and can easily result in out-of-date content. (If a topic is notable to the Irish speaking community, then an article will be created "organically" in due course, and will be kept up to date. "Artificially" created/translated articles can suffer from limited research, be of limited interest to the community, and quickly get out of date as no-one's invested enough to maintain them.) This obviously isn't a project guideline, and someone else may be happy to create the article for you, but personally I think it's best to focus energies on creating/maintaining articles which are of "organic" interest to the community. Ciao/grazie. Guliolopez 00:48, 23 Eanáir 2011 (UTC)

Dia dhuit! You'll have to forgive me for resorting to English, but I'm quite tired after a few hours of editing! You may have noticed I've created a 'weather box' to plot city climates, as is common on the English language Wikipedia - the few we have here are custom made and are much less attractive than the proper table. The only city I've edited for far is Melbourne - in any case, our Vicipéid is now one of the very few Wikis to have a decent version of the climate box. My question is whether you think there should be space for measurements in Fahrenheit, or whether Celsius is adequate for now? I'm happy either way. :) GRMA. Rob Lindsey 00:17, 23 Eanáir 2011 (UTC)

Personally I think Celsius looks fine on its own. (Fahrenheit not really used here anymore, and probably a bit of work trying to add it without mucking up the template. Suggest it's not worth the time investment). One thought however: On the article for Melbourne (and Geelong), the climate box width is 80%. My screen is pretty big, but even at 80%, the climate box wraps below the infoboxes. Suggest reducing default to ~70%. Guliolopez 00:48, 23 Eanáir 2011 (UTC)

: Done and done. :) Rob Lindsey 00:56, 23 Eanáir 2011 (UTC)

Maidin mhaith, Guliolopez! Tuigim go bhfuil fadhbanna leis na íomhánna seo – I’m well aware of the locations of all my uploaded pictures, and will endeavour to fix them in the next few hours if possible. Tá brón orm. Rob Lindsey 22:35, 30 Eanáir 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Guliolopez. I don´t know irish (and my english is basic), so I would like to know, if you could translate these three sentences in english to irish, because I would like to use in my user page a basque / irish personal presentation:

1. Hi, my name is Euskalduna and I´m from Basque Country. This is my user page. Greeting.

2. My images

3. Here you have a sample of my more recent photos

Thanks. - Euskalduna 23:55, 10 Feabhra 2011 (UTC)

Guliolopez 20:30, 12 Feabhra 2011 (UTC)
Could you help me to translate the english text of my pictures in my user page to irish?
Example: My user page in the Welsh Wikipedia
Eskerrik asko / Go raibh maith agat.
- Euskalduna 11:13, 13 Feabhra 2011 (UTC)

Good day to you! Could you, please, translate into Gaeilge the article, containing two-three sentences, about this city in Russia? I’d like to thank you in advance :)--Переход Артур 13:28, 13 Feabhra 2011 (UTC)

Please, could you translate [[:en:Podolsk]] into Gaeilge? Naturally if you have available time!

LOL sausage fests!! :D Yeah, I've been trying to balance them since we've started out with this scheme & it's not easy. However - Sarah fucking Palin!! :D There - it's gone out of my system now - LOL!! - Alison ❤ 21:33, 13 Feabhra 2011 (UTC)

Haigh, a Ghulio. Dunno if you've seen Vicipéid:Bunachar sonraí tuarascálacha/Daoine atá beo ar an vicí seo ach marbh ar vicíonna eile yet, but I've asked User:Merlissimo to have his bot generate this list. Basically, it catalogues biographies on here where subjects are marked as living (undead!) where they have death dates on other wikis, mostly enwiki, dewiki, frwiki. I'll pick through these in my 'spare time' and update the Catagóir:Básanna i ... etc, accordingly. Slán arís - Alison ❤ 08:36, 15 Feabhra 2011 (UTC)

Haigh. Chonaic mé é - cinnte. An-suimiúil. I looked at it last week, and may have addressed one or two already. I'll definitely jump in where I can. (I think a lot are due to "redlinked" DOD categories, so should be relatively easy to fix). Go raibh maith agat. Guliolopez 10:05, 15 Feabhra 2011 (UTC)

: Sin é - most of them are redlinked cats. Féach anseo. Can you also check AllieBot's latest - it's running a standardized markup cleaner script and is hitting redir'd cats, extra spaces, bad markup, page formatting, etc. It's doing a nice job, IMO, on our localization here and I ran it full-tilt tonight over about 50 articles & it made short work of them. What would you think if I blitzed the entire of article space in batches of, say, 500 articles at a time? It's a bot, so recent changes won't get bunged, and it's really being clean! Thoughts?? - Alison ❤ 10:15, 15 Feabhra 2011 (UTC)

::Hey. That filtered "redlinked cats" link is handy - GRMA. On the clean-up bot, I'd say trial it with another block of 50 or 100 before going full guns. (It's been well behaved so far, but there's always a risk with these things...) Guliolopez 11:42, 15 Feabhra 2011 (UTC)

::: Quick update: I ran it again during 'off-time' on the wiki here tonight. There's nobody on to see the bot fill up RecentChanges (with 'Taispeáin róbónna' on). I ran it in batches of 50 or so, then checked every diff by hand. In total, the bot processed a good few hundred pages, flawlessly, IMO. Here are some choice diffs I picked out so you can see a variety of the work being done; unescaping, de-underscoring wikilinks, replacing old category names, doing a nice job of splitting words such as Éireannach -> Éireannach, etc, forcing blankspace in scientific / math text. In this case, temperatures, kicking over to valid XHTML, de-cluttering, sorting and CAPSing categories, unicode handling / unescaping, fixing ISBNs. And so on ... What do you think so far? It seems to be doing a good job so far. I'm not going to run it full-on or anything & go off and make tea or anything. It'll be small batches, supervised, for a while ... - Alison ❤ 07:07, 16 Feabhra 2011 (UTC)

And I took some sorta notion to run off all the Básanna i .... categories and fix all the misnamed ones. Daoine a rugadh ... some other time. I must be mad! :) - Alison ❤

:Bot looks "well-behaved" all right, so I concur: should be fine to go ahead and start letting it loose on bigger batches of articles. Guliolopez 10:05, 16 Feabhra 2011 (UTC)

:: Ok - did about 750+ articles tonight, in large batches. We've cleared all the numeric articles and all the "A"s and everything looks great. It particularly neatened up the digit-years :) Onwards to "B" ... and rather than regale you with 20-something daily updates, I'll just have at 'em :) GRMMA arís! - Alison ❤ 09:04, 17 Feabhra 2011 (UTC)
I started another, large run tonight and basically cleared everything. It's done. I've gone over a lot of them and checked the bot output and everything is just fine. It did a good job on MOS fixes, etc. Either way - done and sorted! It won't really need to be run again for some time, and never to the extent of the number of articles edited. We're pretty clean overall now. Also, this trend looks great :) Thanks for working on that one, too! - Alison ❤ 11:49, 23 Feabhra 2011 (UTC)

Kaixo, Guliolopez! Zer moduz? Itzuli al zenezake nire lankide orria ingelesetik irlanderara? Irlandar Wikipedian irlandera eta euskarazko lankide orri elebiduna izatea nahiko nuke. Eskerrik asko. Agur!
Dia dhuit, Guliolopez! Conas atá tú? Could you translate my user page from english to gaeilge? I would like to have in Irish Wikipedia a bilingual user page in gaeilge and euskara. Go raibh maith agat. Slán agat !
Euskalduna 7 An Márta 2011 15:58 (UTC)

I thought I did already? To be honest I don't really have the time to re-translate it everytime you make a change. Sorry. Guliolopez 18:13, 7 Márta 2011 (UTC)

:To be honest...

:You have no time to re-translate "everytime" I make a change (if "everytime" is only the second time) or do not want? - Euskalduna - 19:42, 7 Márta 2011 (UTC)

::O.K. Thanks for nothing and for to be a disagreeable person... cheerio :D. - Euskalduna - 18:20, 10 Márta 2011 (UTC)

'Sé do bheatha a Ghuliolopez, ar thiocfadh leatsa spléachadh a thabhairt ar an leathanach "Contae Aontroma" nuair a bheas an t-am agat? Dar liom féin go dteastaíonn "clean-up tag" uaidh, 'siocair nach bhfuil oiread is tagairt amháin ann is go bhfuil caighdeán measartha íseal i gceist leis i gcoitinne. Go raibh míle maith agat Ancatmara

Maidir leis an leathanach "Contae Aontroma"

Haigh a Ghuliolopez, tá mé ag cur na ceiste seo ortsa, os rud é gur tusa an créatúr bocht a dhéanann's bunús na gceartúchán ar leagan amach na dtagairtí ar mo chuid alt! Cha dtuigim caidé mar a dhéantar tagairt amháin a thaispeáint nuair a bhaineann tú úsáid as níos mó ná uair amhain. 'Sé sin, "double references". Tá treorú ann ag barr na leathanaigh, agus déanaimse iarracht i ndiaidh iarrachta é a dhéanamh i gceart, ach cha dtuigim an treorú, le bheith ionraic. Ar mhiste leat cuidiú liom? Go raibh míle maith agat--Ancatmara 14:30, 19 Bealtaine 2011 (UTC)

Mar seo. Guliolopez 19:37, 19 Bealtaine 2011 (UTC)

:Iúiríce! Ard-fhear, a ghuliolopez, go raibh míle. --Ancatmara 19:52, 19 Bealtaine 2011 (UTC)

Chonaic mé na athruithe ar léirscáileanna Goulburn agus Dubbo díreach anois. Ní raibh a fhios agam go bhfuil an ‘overlay’ ar fáil - beidh rúdaí i bhfad níos éasca domsa anois! Athróidh mé altanna eile leis an fhadhb céanna, chomh luath is féidir. GRMA! Rob Lindsey 02:40, 11 Meitheamh 2011 (UTC)

Tá fáilte romhat. I ndáiríre ní raibh an "overlay" ar fáil roimh ré. Cheap mé go raibh "overlay" (sa template seo) ar iarraidh le tamall anuas, ach níor chuir mé le chéile é ionas gur chonaic mé go bhfuil fadhbanna ag daoine eile freisin... Guliolopez 15:40, 11 Meitheamh 2011 (UTC)

Hey Gulio! Where do I put article requests?
I found some articles on EN that need Gaelic versions:
* :en:Air Accident Investigation Unit
* :en:Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport
Thanks,
WhisperToMe 19:17, 28 Meitheamh 2011 (UTC)

Hi. Article requests go here. Thanks. Guliolopez 10:18, 29 Meitheamh 2011 (UTC)

:You are welcome! I posted three article requests WhisperToMe 06:00, 2 Iúil 2011 (UTC)

A chara,
Bheinn sásta cruth a chur ar an alt seo thuas dá mbeadh fáil air fós? Más spéis leat ailt a bhfuil aon chumas iontu in aon chor, bheinn buíoch asat iad a chur chugam féachaint an bhféadfainn iad a shábháil. Má dhéanann duine iarracht alt a chur i dtoll a chéile, dá dhonacht é, ba chóir tacú leo, ach go háirithe de bharr gur cuid den obair bunú an leathanaigh agus a leithéid. Lean leis an de-obair , molaim thú.
Eomurchadha 23:05, 26 Meán Fómhair 2011 (UTC)

Ceart go leor. Tá an alt seo díscriosta anois. Guliolopez 08:55, 27 Meán Fómhair 2011 (UTC)
maith agat- EÓM

Go raibh maith agat, mar is gnách! So…an bhfuil an ceadúnas sin déanta anois (nó an bhfuil sonraí ar bith in easnamh agam)? Teastaíonn íomhánna cosúla a chuir suas ar an Vicípéid uaim, agus ba mhaith liom a bheith cinnte faoi roimh ré. Rob Lindsey 22:49, 28 Meán Fómhair 2011 (UTC)

Haigh,

tá mé ag iarraidh roinnt glanadh suas/ord agus eagar a chur ar na hailt faoin Iodáil. Faoi láthair tá an teimpléad seo againn i gcomhair cathacha na hIodáile; http://ga.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teimpl%C3%A9ad:Cathracha_na_hIod%C3%A1ile ach tá deich gcathracha in easnamh mar shampla http://ga.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trionta , feach http://ga.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catag%C3%B3ir:Cathracha_na_hIod%C3%A1ile

D'fhéadfainn iad a chuir isteach sa teimpléad thuas ach ní thugann sé mórán deis dúinn gach cathair na hIodáile a bheith i dteimpléad amháin. An smaoineamh atá agam ná ceann mar ata acu anseo http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Capoluoghi_di_provincia_italiani a chuireann in iúil duit cén réigiún lena baineann an chathair agus cén ceann atá mar phríomhchathair na réigiúin srl.
An fhadhb ná go bhfuil orm Navbox generic subgroup (agus is cosúil navbox generic) a chruthú chomh maith... http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Navbox_generic_subgroup Níl mórán eolas agam faoin gcuid seo den vicí agus níl mé ag iarraidh tuille fadhbanna a chruthú.
Bhfuil aon comhairle agat dom? Spaircí 15:53, 11 Mí na Samhna 2011 (UTC)23:09, 6 Mí na Samhna 2011 (UTC)

Haigh. Níl aon comhairle agam duit :( Leithscéal lag atá ann, ach - a oiread agus ba mhaith liom iad go léir (na teimpléid seo) a deisiú/ordú - níl an am agam :\ Muna téann tú ar aghaidh, thabharfainn cabhair duit - ach níl aon clue agam céard a thionscnóinn. Guliolopez 23:47, 12 Mí na Samhna 2011 (UTC)

A chara, níro thuigeas sin faoi gan nasc a chur le mionteideal, grma. Feicim gur scrios tú teimpléad a bhí curtha agam le halt, sin togh ach conas go gcruthóinn teimpléad? grma
Eomurchadha 23:22, 12 Mí na Samhna 2011 (UTC)

Haigh. RE: "main" - Ná bac (táimid go léir ag foghlaim). RE: "elections template" - Féach anseo (ach níl sé éasca :p) Guliolopez 23:50, 12 Mí na Samhna 2011 (UTC)

Hello!
Sorry for writing to you in English but I'm still a layman when it comes to Gaelic hehe. I've put a request for the article of Prvoslav Vujčić to be expanded at Vicipéid:Ailt iarrtha. I don't know however if that page is active. Please do not delete the article as the author is notable. Do you know where I could get help for a translation from Vujčić\s English Wikipedia page? It's also pretty short.
Thanks!
Claddagh 04:47, 13 Mí na Samhna 2011 (UTC)


Plé:Litríocht na Gaeilge

"Piaras Mac Gearailt (1709-1795), Cúirt na mBurdún, agus ‘Bata na Bachaille’ in Iarthar Déise" le Ciarán Ó Gealbháin.
I mBaile Uí Chionnfhaolaidh, i bparóiste Chill Modhomhnóg, in oirthear Chorcaí, a saolaíodh Piaras Mac Gearailt, tuairim is an bhliain 1709*. Ba dhream gustalach go maith iad na Gearaltaigh tráth, ach faoin am a bhfuair Piaras teacht ar shealúchas a shinsear, ní raibh fágtha ina seilbh ach baile fearainn Bhaile Uí Chionnfhaolaidh féin. D’iompaigh sé leis an bProtastúnachas d’fhonn greim a choimeád ar a chuid, rud a ghoill go mór air an fhaid a mhair sé. Ní théadh sé ‘chum teampaill’ ach nuair ba ghá dho, ámh, agus le himeacht na haimsire, d’éirigh sé as a bheith ag triall ar shéipéal Chill Chríodáin ar fad. Ina theannta san, chum sé an liodán deabhóideach ‘Tréithe na Maighdine Muire’ ag moladh mháthair Chríost, a raibh faillí mhór déanta inti ag an gcreideamh gallda dar leis.
Maireann cúig aisling pholaitiúil leis (Ó Foghludha, 1905; Ó Cróinín, 2007) ach ’sé an dán seacaibíteach (nach aisling é) ‘Rosc Catha na Mumhan’ an saothar is mó cáil dá chuid.
Ba mhinic i gcomhluadar filí eile é: Tadhg Gaelach Ó Súilleabháin, Donnchadh Rua Mac Conmara, Éamonn de
Bhál (arbh as Dún Guairne do), agus Seán Clárach Mac Domhnaill mar shampla. Thugtaí ‘Ard-Sirriam Leithe
Mogha’ air, arbh fhéidir ‘chief poet of Munster’ a thuiscint leis (Corkery, 1924). Deirtear gur chaith sé leathchéad bliain ina cheann comhairle ar Chúirt na mBúrdún, cúirt filíochta a thionóltaí i dtigh an Ghearaltaigh féin i mBaile Uí Chionnfhaolaidh, sarar ghéill sé ‘Bata na Bachaille’, comhartha Ard-Sirriam Chúirt na mBúrdún, dá chara agus dá chomhfhile, Éamonn Ó Flaithbheartaigh, sa bhliain 1791 (Ó Foghludha, 1905). Is í sin an bhliain is déanaí ar féidir aon saothar a lua leis, agus cónaí faoin dtráth sin air mar a raibh a iníon pósta, i bparóiste naClaiseMóire i gContae Phort Láirge (Ó Conchúir, 1982). Is ann a d’éag sé, ach tugadh abhaile é chun a churtha i dteannta a mhuintire i mBaile Mhac Óda uair éigin thart faoin mbliain 1795.
Is léir gur samhlaíodh Piaras mar cheannfhile nó mar Uachtarán ar Chúirt na mBurdún lena linn (Ó Conchúir, 2000). Mar a chonaiceamar, ‘Ard-Sirriam Leithe Mogha’ a thugtaí air agus is léir go raibh ana-mheas air i measc na bhfilí a bhí suas in aon aimsir leis, óir is mar sin a thráchtann cuid acu air ina gcuid dánta.
Tuairimíonn Ó Foghludha gur sa bhliain 1744 a cuireadh tús leis an gCúirt, agus go mb’fhéidir go mbíodh sí á tionól faoi dhó sa bhliain (Ó Foghludha, 1905). Mar atá ráite, bhíodh Bata na Bachaille, comhartha na cumhachta, i seilbh an té a bhí i gceannas ar an gCúirt. Ba gheall le bata an easpaig Bata na Bachaille:
‘... (ach gan é a bheith thar dhá throigh go leith ar fhaid), agus go gcoimeád fadh an tArd-fhile é ar feadh trí bliana, de dhealramh, agus ansin éinne a bhuafadh air i bhfilíocht go mbeadh cead aige é a bhreith uaidh (bhí cloiste leis aige [Ó Foghludha] gur bhuaigh bean ó Eochaill, Aibigéal Brún, an bata aon uair amháin, agus go raibh Máire Ní Dhonnagáin, as na Déise, mar cheann ar an gcúirt ar feadh tamaill)’ (Ó Conchúir, 2000: 69) Deir Éamonn Ó Bróithe (2005) linn i dtaobh an bhanfhile dhéanaigh seo, Máire Ní Dhonnagáin (nó ‘Máire na gCaointe’), gur rugadh tuairim is an bhliain 1720 í, go raibh sí i mbarr a réime sa tarna leath den aois chéanna, agus gurbh í tuairim mhuintir Shliabh gCua í ná raibh aon bhreith uirthi mar fhile lena linn.
De réir an tseanchais, mhair Ní Dhonnagáin i gcomhaimsir le Donnchadh Rua agus Uilliam Ó Móráin (file agus oide cáiliúil ó Shliabh gCua), agus bhí baint aici, más fíor, leis na scoileanna scairte Laidine acu (ibid.). Bean chaointe ba ea í, leis, agus is cosúil go mbíodh ag éirí ó am go chéile idir í agus an chléir. Naimhdeas na hEaglaise leis an gcaointeoireacht, b’fhéidir, ba chúis leis an teannas eatarthu. Deirtí go minic i dtaobh chumadóirí filíochta go raibh ‘faobhar ar a dteangan’ nó go raibh ‘teanga faobhrach’ acu (Ó hÓgáin, 1982: 35) agus níor thaise do Mháire é. Bhíodh sí ‘á créil ón oltór’ agus arsa an sagart seo lá léi: ‘An bhfuil tú ansan a Mháire?’ ‘Thá mé ’s dhá thaobh ar mo theangain; taobh mhín agus taobh gharbh’ arsa sí (luaite in Ó Bróithe, 2005: 80). Thugtaí ‘Máire an bhata’ chomh maith uirthi de réir dhá fhoinse agam** agus thuairimeoinn anseo go mb’fhéidir gur i ngeall ar í a bheith ina ceann ar Chúirt na mBurdún i mBaile Uí Chionnfhaolaidh tráth a lean an ainm sin di, agus í sa tseilbh, dá réir, ar Bhata na Bachaille tamall, uair éigin i dtreo dheireadh an 18ú haois, is é is dóichí.
*Tugann Breandán Ó Conchúir 1702 mar bhliain a bhreithe. Gabhaim buíochas leis an Dr Seán Ó Duinnshléibhe as leasuithe áirithe a mholadh ar an alt so. Liom féin aon bhotún nó locht, gan amhras. Táim buíoch, leis, de mhuintir de Barra, i mBaile Uí Chionnfhaolaidh, a thug cead dom samplaí a ghlacadh ar an bhfeirm acu.
**CBÉ 84: 32; CBÉ 978: 300-301, luaite in Ó hÓgáin, 1982
Corkery,D. The Hidden Ireland. Baile Átha Cliath: Gill and Macmillan, 1924.
Ó Bróithe, É. ‘Máire na gCaointe’ in Go Nuige Seo, eag. P. Ó Cíobháin, 70-88. Baile Átha Cliath: Coiscéim, 2005.
Ó Conchúir, B. Scríobhaithe Chorcaí 1700-1850, Baile Átha Cliath: An Clóchomhar, 1982.
_______ ‘Na Cúirteanna Éigse i gCúige Mumhan’ in Saoi na hÉigse: Aistí in Ómós do Sheán Ó Tuama, eag. P. Riggs et al., 55-81. Baile Átha Cliath: An Clóchomhar, 2000.
Ó Cróinín, B. ‘Filíocht Sheacaibíteach Phiarais Mhic Gearailt’ in Eighteenth Century Ireland / Iris
an Dá Chultúr 22 (2007): 164-88.
Ó Foghludha, R. [Fiachra Éilgeach] eag. Amhráin Phiarais Mhic Gearailt, Baile Átha Cliath:
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Díol spéise an t-alt úd thuas, ach níl a fhios agam cén fáth a bhfuil sé le fáil anseo. Ba cheart é a úsáid mar bhunús príomhailt faoi Phiaras Mhic Ghearailt, ós rud é nach bhfuil a leithéid fós ann.
Caithfear an t-alt faoi litríocht na Gaeilge a fheabhsú go mór. Is fearr go mór an t-alt Béarla.
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Plé:Gaeilge Bhaile Átha Cliath

Dá gcuirfeá ceist ar dhuine cén bhliain ar imigh an Ghaeilge dhúchais ó BHÁC is dócha go luafaí bliain éigin idir 1200 agus 1700. D'fhógair Ruairi Quinn go dána, tráth a raibh sé ina aire oideachais, nár labhraíodh aon Ghaeilge i mBaile Átha Cliath ariamh. Is follas don té a bhfuil smeadar éigin d'eolas aige ar stair na tíre nach bhfuil aon fhírinne ag baint leis an bhfaoiste fáiste sin aige. Leanadh de labhairt na Gaeilge i mBÁC i gcónaí, go fiú is más Gaeilge as áiteanna eile a bhí i gceist, agus leanadh den Ghaeilge dhúchasach i bhfad níos faide ná mar a shíltear go forleathan.
Nuair a smaoiníonn daoine ar Ghaeilge BHÁC cuimhníonn siad ar an bPáil agus ar an gcaoi ar scaip an Béarla uaidh sin amach. Déantar dearmad go raibh an chathair féin beag go maith agus go raibh stráicí den chontae an-iargúlta amach sa 19ú céad agus i gcás cuid de na ceantracha seo gur beag teagmháil a bhí acu leis an saol mór.
Is dócha gur féidir simpliú ollmhór a dhéanamh ar stair shochtheangeolaíoch na tíre agus a rá gurb é an drochshaol a thug bás na Gaeilge i mórchuid na tíre. Tuigtear ar ndóigh go raibh próiseas an Ghalldaithe faoi lánseol i mBÁC le fada roimhe seo agus gur dócha nach raibh an éifeacht chéanna ag an ngorta ar chúrsaí teanga abhus. Mar sin féin tabharfar faoi deara gur sna blianta beaga tar éis an ghorta mhóir a fuair an Ghaeilge dhúchasach bás sa chontae, mar a fheicfear ar ball. Próiseas eile is cóir a choinneáil i gcuimhne ná an fuath úd agus daille ar an nGaeilge a bhíonn sna ceantracha sin atá díreach tar éis tiontú ar an mBéarla scun scan. Ba dhóigh leat ar fhreastal duit ar cheantracha iar-Ghaeltachta áirithe timpeall na tíre sa lá atá inniu féin, ceantracha ar labhraíodh Gaeilge iontu go dtí 50 bliain ó shin, nárbh ann don Ghaeilge iontu ariamh. Tá tábhacht nach beag ag baint leis an bpróiseas seo agus fágann sé go mbímid i dtuilleamaí fianaise bhearnach scaipthe go minic.
Pé scéal é tá eolas ag roinnt sa phobal gur mhair an Ghaeilge níos faide i mBÁC ná mar a shamhlaítear de ghnáth. Bhí nod nó dhó cloiste agam féin chomh maith le roinnt tagairtí don Ghaeilge in áit darbh ainm Gleann an Smóil feicthe agam i ngearrscéal paistís de chuid Biddy Jenkinson.[1] Tá Lá Nua, nach maireann, le moladh as liostaí focal a aimsiú, a chur i dtoll a chéile agus a fhoilsiú, Colm Ó Broin go háirithe, a tharraing as foinsí nach éasca teacht orthu. Anuas air sin tháinig mé ar réimse leathan alt ar bhlaganna idirlín[2], ó dhaoine atá tar éis saothrú agus scagadh a dhéanamh ar go leor den fhianaise agus cur leis. Tá mórán eolais le fáil orthu seo, go deimhin féin is mó go mór an t-eolas atá le fáil orthu ná mar a bhí i roinnt de na leabhair agus de na paimfléid a d'aimsigh mé. Is cóir dom http://dublingaelic.blogspot.ie/ (faighte 20/5/2016) a lua go háirithe, tá go leor den eolas anseo thíos faoi thionchar a bhfuil le léamh ann, ós rud é go bhfuil athléamh cuimsitheach ann ar go leor de na foinsí.
Bunaithe ar an eolas seo agus roinnt mhaith póirseála eile sna bunfhoinsí táim chun a áiteamh go raibh Gaeilge líofa dhúchais á labhairt i mBÁC, 21km ó dheas ó Shráid Uí Chonaill, go dtí an bhliain 1837 ar a laghad agus go bhfuil seans measartha maith go raibh Gaeilge éigin sa cheantar sin go dtí na 1870dí. Anuas air sin déanfaidh mé plé ar ar an gcás a luann Piatt go raibh, dar leis, Gaeilgeoir nó leathchainteoir ann ón áit a bhásaigh i 1933. Caithfidh mé súil, leis, ar logainmneacha bhlianta Bhailiúchán na Scol, feiscint bhfuil aon chabhair ansin dúinn.
An ceantar a mbeidh mé ag trácht air go príomha ná Gleann an Smóil, áit a dtugtar Bóthar na Bruíne air chomh maith. I sléibhte BHÁC atá sé, gearr go leor do Chlub Thine Ifrinn Chnoc Montpelier agus é lonnaithe laisteas de Thamhlacht.
Tá tuairisc againn ó fhoinse iontaofa go raibh Gaeilgeoirí dúchais san áit sa bhliain 1837. Anuas air sin tá roinnt liostaí focal againn as áiteanna eile sa chontae, iasachtaí a bhíodh beo sa Bhéarla chomh maith le giotaí a litríodh de réir nós an Bhéarla. Má théimid níos faide siar fós, feicfear scata lámhscríbhinní. Bunaithe orthu seo ar fad is féidir roinnt gnéithe den Ghaeilge a labhraíodh sa chontae a aithint.
Caithfear súil ar Fhine Gall, i dtuaisceart an chontae, leis, mar a raibh Gaeilge á labhairt níos déanaí mar a shamhlaítear.
Ar ndóigh níl aon taifead ceart againn ar an gcineál Gaeilge a labhraítí i mBÁC, ná go deimhin ar aon cheann de na canúintí a bhíodh á labhairt i mórchuid na gcontaetha máguaird. Os a choinne sin scaoileann obair bhleachtaireachta roinnt staraithe áitiúla agus acadóirí mórán ar féidir linn tuairim mheáite a bheith againn ina leith. Anuas air sin is féidir linn leas a bhaint as an teangeolaíocht chomparáideach le Gaeilge BHÁC a shuíomh i gcomhthéacs Ghaeilge na tíre.
Stair na Gaeilge sa Chathair agus sa Chontae
Ón 17ú haois amach a tháinig meath tubaisteach ar an dteanga dhúchais i gCúige Laighin a deir Ó hÓgáin linn.[3] Gan trácht ar shean-Ghaeilgeoirí shléibhte BHÁC, is féidir go raibh Gaeilgeoirí sa Bhaile Gaelach ar imeall na cathrach féin.[4] Cruthaíonn Piatt go measartha maith, ina chéad alt dó ar an ábhar ar Feasta, go raibh an Ghaeilge á labhairt i scata áiteanna i mBÁC i lár na 17ú haois. Is eol dúinn gur scríobhadh lámhscríbhinní Gaeilge ó thuaidh sa chontae san 18ú haois. Deir Ua Broin linn go gcaithfidh go raibh an Ghaeilge mar theanga an phobail i roinnt ceantracha sa bhliain 1753.[5] Tá fianaise ag Piatt go raibh an teagasc Críostaí Gaeilge á múineadh i gcorrtheach pobail go dtí tuairim 1880.[6]
Idir 1600 agus 1700 a thosaigh an mheánaicme áitiúil ag labhairt Béarla, scaip an t-aistriú teanga idir 1700 is 1800 agus faoin mbliain 1801 deir an Statistical Survey of the Royal Dublin Society 'Very few speak Irish' i mBÁC.[7] Ó lár an 19ú haois is ar éigean aon phobal traidisiúnta á labhairt ann.[8]
Tá roinnt eolais is féidir a bhaint ó na daonáirimh. Léiríonn obair an Ghearaltaigh ar labhairt na Gaeilge roimh am an drochshaoil gur beagán Gaeilge a bhí thart ar iarthar na tíre ach fágann sé BÁC ar lár ar fad toisc nárbh aon d'aon Ghaeilge ó dhúchas dar leis. Ach bhí ar a laghad 7% de chohórt na daoine a rugadh sna mblianta 1771-1781-agus 2% de chohórt 1861-1871 ina nGaeilgeoirí cé gur dócha gur páistí le daoine as áiteanna eile cuid acu seo ar a laghad.
Gnéithe den Teanga
Tá mórán scríofa ag Nicholas Williams ar na gnéithe teanga a bhain le BÁC agus is ar a chuntas siúd a bhreathnóimid ar dtús. Sa deá-leabhar toirtiúil úd Stair na Gaeilge tugann Williams mionchuntas ina n-éiríonn leis na príomhghnéithe de chanúintí Laighean a léiriú. Tugann sé léarscáil ríchuiditheach dúinn chomh maith.[9]
Déanann sé amach gur mar seo a bhíodh fuaimniú Ghaeilge BHÁC
'-adh' in ainmfhocail mar  '-a'
'-adh' san fhaí chéasta '-a'
'-amh' in ainmfhocail mar '-ú' i dtuaisceart BHÁC agus '-a' i ndeisceart an chontae.
Thabharfadh Williams Gaeilge Gháileonach ar Ghaeilge Chonnachta/Laighean sa chás gurbh fhíor gur aon chanúint amháin í. Géilleann Williams gurbh ann do chineál de leathscáil nó penumbra na Mumhan a luigh isteach ar Chúige Laighean.
Bhí Donn S. Piatt, arb é is mó atá tar éis scríobh ar Ghaeilge BHÁC cé nach ionann sin agus cruinneas i gcónaí, suite de gur le Gaeilge Chonnacht nó Uladh a bheag nó a mhór a théadh formhór Ghaeilge dheisceart Laighean. Is spéisiúil súil a chaitheamh ar áiteamh Piatt gur ghiorra Gaeilge BHÁC do Chonnacht agus do na Déise ó thaobh mínithe focal.[10] D'fhoilsigh sé leabhrán beag a bhfuil an-úsáid bainte agam as.[11] Ar a chostas féin a chuir Piatt an leabhrán amach leis na tuairimí seo a roinnt leis an bpobal. Glacann Williams leis gur ag Piatt a bhí bunús an chirt.
Tá lochtanna áirithe ar eolas Williams áfach. Mar shampla, deir sé gur dócha gurbh é 'aithris' an gnáthfhocal ar 'tell' sa chaint chomh fada ó dheas le tuaisceart BHÁC. 'Don't arrish on me' - 'ná sceith orm' a chuala Piatt i mBéarla na hAille i mBÁC sna Tríochaidí a deir sé linn. Ach ní seo atá ag Piatt san fhoinse a luann Williams áfach ach 'Don't be arrishing on me' agus 'imitating' mar mhíniú aige ann. Is gá na foinsí a luann Williams a scagadh go mion mar sin. Anuas air sin feicfear ar ball nach bhfuil na foinsí féin sin gan locht.
Bhí 'muna' annamh lasmuigh den Mhumhain sa tréimhse seo. Díshamhlaíodh an 'n' go 'r' - 'mara ttuigidh tú'[12] Chomh maith luann Williams sampla breá de úsáid an fhoircinn '-aibh' i dtuisil uile an fhocail i litir a scríobhadh i mBÁC sa bhliain 1691.
Deir Williams gur chuir 'tuairimí Uí Raithile alltacht ar Donn S. Piatt, a raibh a lán iarsmaí Gaeilge i gCúige Laighean bailithe aige'. Is spéisiúil an rud é go dtugann leithéidí RA Breatnach ómós ar leith dá thuairimí ina thráchtas siúd.[13]
An tAiceann
Ón liosta focal atá ag Piatt as an tSeanchill[14], is ar an gcéad siolla atá an t-aiceann i gcónaí nach mór. Seachas 'bogán' ba ar an gcéad shiolla a bhíodh an bhéim i mBÁC theas, mar atá ó thuaidh sa tír.  Ba í an reamhbhéim a bhí i bhfeidhm i dtuaisceart an chontae. Aithnítear go raibh difríocht idir na Sceirí agus an Aill.
"words differ from Skerries area words in having stronger first syllable stress and in preserving in words such as dallan (Skerries dullán) both length, stress and value of first vowel identical with Northern Irish"[15]
Is in Gaelic Dialect in East and Mid-Leinster (1933) a thugann Donn Piatt an cuntas ar an liosta focal a bhailigh sé ó P. Ó Murchadha as an tSeanchill sa bhliain 1933.  Ní raibh rian na Mumhan ar 'ceann' ná 'gleann' ach oiread sa mhéid a tugadh dó. Deir sé linn go raibh luí le 'North Leinster, Ulster and Omeath' ó thaobh an aicinn. Is gá bheith fíorchúramach le liosta seo Piatt, mar go bhfuil gach seans ann nach focail as BÁC go leor acu. I mBré a bhí cónaí ar Ó Murchadha agus deirtear gur óna mháthair agus óna athair a fuair sé na focail, agus gurbh as Tuaisceart Chill Mhantáin dá athair.[16] Cé gur dócha go bhfuil fianaise anseo ar an gcineál Gaeilge a labhraítí i mBÁC tráth, níl sé chomh hiontaofa sin mar nach dtugtar aitheantas do na focail a thagann as BÁC féin.

Dar le Irish Dialects Past and Present bhíodh córas béime an deiscirt le fáil i dTuaisceart BHÁC, is é sin an bhéim a bheith ar an dara siolla den fhocal, agus go mbíodh béim ar an tríú siolla, sa chás go mbíodh sé fada, féach 'spealadói'r'.[17]
San áit a mbíodh béim ar an dara siolla agus nach mbíodh 'í' ann dhéantaí lagú ar an gcéad shiolla agus ba mhinic go bhfágtaí gutaí ar lár ón gcéad shiolla nuair a bhíodh béim ar an dara siolla, mar sin 'coláiste' -  'cláiste', 'soláthar' - 'sláhar' is mar sin de.[18]
Maíonn Williams go mb'fhéidir go raibh tionchar ag na Lochlannaigh ar an gcineál Gaeilge a labhraítí i gCúige Laighean toisc an oiread sin lonnaíochtaí a bheith acu ann, mar a áitíonn sé i gcás na Mannainise.
CN ina CR
Tá eolas againn ó fhoinsí éagsúla, Ó Comhraí ina measc, gur 'croc' a bhí ar 'cnoc' i mBÁC sa dá chuid den chontae. Crooksling < Cnoc slinne, Crockshane < Cnoc Seáin [19] Tá ceithre logainm i mBaile Átha Cliath a thacaíonn leis seo. Le Gaeilge Chonnachta a théann Gaeilge Laighean anseo. Tugann roinnt logainmneacha le fios gur 'doo' seachas 'duv' a dúradh freisin, cé go bhfuil leaganacha eile le fáil leis.[20]
Deir Williams linn gur 'tala' (agus talú) agus 'mola'/ 'ruga' a bhíodh ar 'talamh' agus 'moladh' (ainm br) i mBÁC. Luann sé gur chuala Piatt 'lawn-a-vawla' sa tSeanchill i ndeisceart Átha Cliath. Tá 'Shanwalla' i dtuaisceart BÁC, is dócha gur tréith thuaisceartach an 'w' atá le clos ansin atá ar aon dul leis an 'w' < 'mh'/'bh' a d'fhaightí i gCo. na Mí. Tá trácht ann leis ar an bhforás 'ao' > 'ó' mar a fheictear in 'Ballyboden' < 'Baile Baodáin' i nDeisceart BHÁC é.
Tá ceist na n-iseagluaiseanna casta dar le Williams, chomh maith le forás an ghuta i bhfocail ar nós 'poll', 'cill', 'coill', 'ceann', 'cam'. Bhíodh 'práta' agus 'préata' araon i Laighean deirtear, chomh maith le 'madú', 'mada', agus 'madra'. 'Madadh' agus 'mada' atá ag Risteard Tuibéar i mBÁC ag tús an ochtú haois déag mar shampla.[21]
In Irish Dialects Past and Present tugann Ó Raithile cuntas ar ghnéithe áirithe a bhain le Gaeilge Átha Cliath. Bhíodh fuaimniú an deiscirt de 'ao' le clos chomh fada ó thuaidh le Dunleary deir sé (a dhéanfadh rím le 'Mary' Bhleá Cliathaigh san 18ú haois.)  Bhíodh fuaim 'ee' ar 'ao' sa tSeanchill dar le Piatt, agus tréithe de chuid Ghaeilge na Mí agus Uladh chomh fada le sléibhte BHÁC /Chill Mhantáin.[22]
Míníonn Ó Raithile gur féidir go raibh gutaí fadaithe nó gutaí défhoghraithe chomh fada ó thuaidh le BÁC. Is cinnte gur athraigh 'gh', 'igh' ina '-e' nó ina '-i' mar sin 'míne' a bhíodh ar 'mínigh' agus 'geala' ar 'gealaigh' chomh fada le BÁC.
I nGaeilge an deiscirt fágadh ar lár  '-dh' neamhcharballach in ainmfhocail 'cogadh' - 'coga' agus 'briseadh' - 'brise'. Bhíodh sé le fáil i gCill Mhantáin agus Cill Dara chomh maith deir an Raithileach linn.
'Duílinn' ar 'Duibhlinn' a bhíodh ag Gaeilgeoirí imeall na cathrach is dócha, dar leis an Leabhar Breac. Ó dheas d'fhuaimnítí 'sléibhe' mar 'slé', féach 'Ballinclea' ar 'Baile an tSlé' i ndeisceart an chontae.[23]
Sa leabhar Labhrann Laighnigh tugann Daithí Ó hÓgáin, suaimhneas síoraí dó, téacs dúinn ón 12ú céad chomh maith le beatha naoimh ón 13ú céad a scríobhadh i nGaeilge i mBÁC. Is ansin a éiríonn cúrsaí an-spéisiúil. Tá giotaí aige ó Andrew Borde ó The Fryst Boke of the Introduction of Knowledge, is deir sé gur rídhealraitheach gur i mBÁC a bailíodh na cainteanna Gaeilge ann. Ní léir ann ná dom cén fáth go meastar gur Gaeilge BHÁC atá aige seo, áfach. [24] Ba mhaith liom an míniú sin a fheiceáil. Anuas ar an amhras sin níl an chanúint Ghaeilge de réir a chéile ann.
Tugann Ó hÓgáin fuaimniú tuaisceartach faoi deara ar 'aon', 'dó', 'fiche', 'daichead', 'deoch', 'baile' agus 'oíche mhaith'. Tá foghraíocht thuaisceartach nó lár tíre ag na focail áirithe seo - 'ceathair', 'íocfá tú', 'racha muid', 'ár'. Tá samplaí a réitíonn le deisceart Laighin nó oirthear na Mumhan freisin – 'naoi', 'deoch', 'déag', 'céad'. Deir sé go bhfuil dhá bhéim éagsúil ar 'agat' le feiceáil thíos mar atá 'agoot' agus 'oket'. Thabharfadh seo le fios go raibh breis is cainteoir amháin ag cur eolais ar fáil dó, nó nárbh as BÁC do na cainteoirí in aon chor.
Tá abairt amháin a mheascann dhá chanúint – ‘Dé ‘bheatha ‘un an bhaile’. Tá cuma dheisceartach ar an tús ach cuma thuaisceartach ar an gcuid eile. An meascán mearaí a bhí sa Ghaeilge a labhraíodh i mBaile Átha Cliath san 16ú Céad mar sin, nó an Gaeilge BHÁC atá anseo in aon chor againn?
Nathanna ón leabhar
·         'An ólthá deoch, sir. Dé ‘bheatha ‘un an bhaile' (Anoha dewh, sor? De wan wely)
·         'Canas ‘tá tú?’ ‘Tá mé go maith, go raibh maith agat' (Kanys stato? Tam a goomah gramahagood).
·         'Sir, bhfuil Gaeilig agat? Tá suim agam dhi.' (Sor, woll galow oket? [Syr, can you speak Iryshe?] Tasyn agomee).
Uimhreacha
1 - hewen
2 - dow
3 - tree
4 - kaar
5 - quiek
6 - seh
7 - showght
8 - howght
9 - nygh
10 - deh
Ó véarsaíocht ghrinn a bhailigh Meredith Hanmer sa bhliain 1591, faoi fhogharscríobh Béarla, déanann Ó hÓgáin amach gur mó den chanúint lár tíre a bhíodh i mBÁC, le gutaí fada in 'gall', 'ann', 'clann' agus 'gleann'. [25] Déanann Piatt amach ar gur 'glan' a bhíodh ar 'gleann' le béim thuaisceartach. [26]

Liostaí focal
Cé gur bhain Piatt agus Williams an-leas as na liostaí focal, tá roinnt acu níos iontaofa ná a chéile. I gcás liosta focal Liam Ua Broin ar Béaloideas luaitear focail Ghaeilge a tháinig as ceantracha áirithe, 'Glasamuckey' ina measc, áit atá buailte le Gleann an Smóil.[27] Sa liosta seo feictear an focal 'shanty', agus luaitear 'sean tí' mar shanas air, níl seo ag teacht le ceart na teanga ná le ciall an téarma 'drochbhothán nuathógtha'. Is é is dóichí gur tháinig an focal 'shanty' chun cinn faoin gciall 'bothán' i Meiriceá ar dtús, agus tharla seo sula raibh mórán Éireannach ann. Ar ndóigh is dóchúla go mór go bhfuil baint aige le 'chantier' na Fraincise. Tá an sanas seo féin le fáil sa leabhar úd le Daniel Cassidy atá lán go boimbéal le bréagshanais. [28] Baineann seo bonn arís ó iontaofacht cuid de na focail a luaitear sna foinsí seo.
Os a choinne sin tá saibhreas sna liostaí agus cinnteacht gur ón nGaeilge a thagann mórchuid na bhfocal. Féach an focal breá 'tálach' mar shampla - 'a pain or a cramp in the muscle of the hand from heavy manual work.' Anuas air feictear gur tháinig fuaimeanna áirithe de chuid na Gaeilge slán isteach sa Bhéarla fiú amháin. Is suntasach nach raibh fadhb le 'ch' ná le 'r' caol i mBÁC Theas, bhíodh 'clorhezeen' ar 'clohairín', mar a bhí in Óméith.[29]
Gleann an Smóil agus an Ceantar Máguaird
Is fiú súil ghéar a chaitheamh ar Ghleann an Smóil le tuiscint a fháil ar an gcaoi a mhair an Ghaeilge sa chontae, ar chúla téarmaí. Tá eolas cuimsitheach curtha le chéile ag Aindí Mac Giolla Chomhghaill ón mBrainse Logainmneacha ar an scéal agus é sin le léamh ar bhlag Aonghuis Uí Almhain.[30]
Deir Mac Giolla Chomhghaill ann gur thug an scoláire Eoghan Ó Comhraí cuairt ar an ngleann sa bhliain 1837 le heolas faoi na logainmneacha a fháil. Tá an t-eolas sin le fáil i Litreacha na Suirbhéireachta Ordanáis.[31]
2nd August 1837
  I met an interesting old man at the bottom of the glen from whom I collected the subjoined list of local names. His name is William Rafter — Uilliam Ó Rachtabhra, he is now 84 years old, with all his faculties in full vigour, and with more activity and buoyancy of spirit than his son, a man of about 50 years of age....  I speaks [sic] as good Irish as ever I heard spoken, as does his sister Una. He says that 40 years ago very few spoke English in the Glen except the Dublin Carmen — very few men of 40 years of age even now in the Glen that don’t understand tho’ they don’t speak the Irish.[32]
Tá Ó Comhraí, dar le roinnt mhaith foinsí, iontaofa go maith agus is féidir muinín a bheith againn gurbh ann don Reachtúrach seo, gur bhain sé leis an gceantar agus go raibh Gaeilge mhaith aige. Aithnítear nach dtagraíonn Ó Comhraí d'éinne eile a bhí in ann an Ghaeilge a labhairt seachas an bheirt seo, áfach.
Labhair Seán Ó Donnabháin, scoláire mór eile na linne, faoi ainm an ghleanna in 1852:
'... in the glens of the County of Dublin, where the people still speak Irish,'[33]
Is cosúil nach raibh luí ag an Donnabhánach áibhéil a dhéanamh ach oiread.
Áirítear go raibh an teaghlach fós sa Ghleann de réir an daonáirimh in 1911, gach seans go bhfuil gaol éigin leo fós ann agus iad dall ar an gcáil theangeolaíoch atá ar a sinsir.
Mar chomparáid déanann Piatt tuairisc ar mheascán idir Ghaeilge agus Bhéarla a bhíodh in úsáid ó dheas ó Rath Fearnáin sa bhliain 1893.
Áitíonn Malachi Horan[34], a rugadh sa bhliain 1847 agus a tógadh trasna an ghleanna ó Bhóthar na Bruíne nach raibh aon chainteoirí dúchais Ghaeilge ann agus é óg, agus tá sé siúd iontaofa go maith leis. Déanann Piatt cur síos ar náire uafásach a bhain le Gaeilge i sléibhte BHÁC in alt dá chuid ar Feasta. Iarrtar ar fhear an bhfuil Gaeilge aige agus freagraíonn i mBéarla 'Seans go bhfuilim aineolach ach nílim chomh dona sin'. Is féidir go gceileann tuairimí mar seo aon eolas a bhféadfaí a bheith ag súil leis ó chainteoirí nó ó leathchainteoirí deireanacha agus nach mbeadh aon Oisín i ndiaidh na Féinne béalscaoilteach faoi aon rian den Ghaeilge a bheith acu.
Aithnítear leis nach ndeir Ó Comhraí ná na Reachtúraigh gur Gaeilge a labhair an pobal an tráth sin ach gur tuigeadh í. Tá amhras ar William Nolan i dtaobh róléamh a dhéanamh ar chás na Reachtúrach.[35]
"Commentators have taken this single statement as definitive evidence of widespread Irish-speaking in the glen in the eighteenth century [sic: recte nineteenth]. However... The appearance of English fieldnames in the late eighteenth century may pinpoint the period of language transition."
Ag tagairt do thuairimí Piatt atá sé ba dhóigh leat. Ceist eile a bhí ag dó na geirbe ag roinnt ná seo, má bhí suim mhór chraosach ag lucht na hathbheochana as BÁC sa Ghaeilge cén fáth nár thugadar cuairteanna ar Ghleann an Smóil in áit dul chomh fada le hÓméith. Nár dhóigh leat, leis, go scaipfeadh scéal Uí Chomhraí?
Tá tagairt ag Piatt do Mr Doyle éigin a bualadh as Gaeilge a labhairt ar scoil sa bhliain 1900 gearr don áit agus sa dara alt dó ar Feasta luann sé bean gan ainm a bhí 'ag rámhallaigh as Gaeilge'[36] agus tinneas uirthi. I bhfírinne ní féidir bheith cinnte gur Gaeilge a bhí i gceist fiú amháin 'níor éirigh liom ach abairt anseo is abairt ansiúd a thuiscint' a deir an dochtúir a thug cúram di, agus nuair a bhisigh sí cuimhne dá laghad ní raibh aici ar aon teanga a bheith á labhairt aici. Bhásaigh sí sa bhliain 1933.
I litir a foilsíodh ar an Irish Times sa bhliain 1933, litir a luann Piatt in Feasta, luaitear an eachtra seo a leanas.
'[w]hen the new chapel at Bohernabreena was opened in 1870, the first sermon was preached in Irish, it being the language used in the district.'
Cé gur féidir gur tugadh seanmóir i nGaeilge is deacair a chreidiúint gurbh í teanga an phobail í má ghlactar le tuairisc Uí Comhraí. Is fiú a thabhairt chun cuimhne nach ndúirt éinne ann go raibh Gaeilge acu i ndaonáireamh na bliana 1901, cé nach fiú mórán seo i bhfírinne.
Cá bhfuil an fhírinne mar sin? Is cosúil go raibh an Ghaeilge mar theanga an phobail i nGleann an Smóil go dtí 1800 agus go raibh Gaeilge agus Béarla araon ag an gcéad ghlúin eile, ach faoi 1840 seans gur leathchainteoirí a bhí iontu as seo amach. D'fhéadfadh go mbeadh duine nó beirt de na leathchainteoirí seo in aois a gceithre scór sa bhliain 1920. Ba leor seo le corrchainteoir, Oisín i ndiaidh na Féinne, a d'fhágfadh go ndéanfaí searmanas Gaeilge sa séipéal. Seans fiú go míneodh seo an rámhaillí Gaeilge. Ainneoin sin tagaim leis an tátal gur bhásaigh an Ghaeilge timpeall is 1860 i nGleann an Smóil.[37]
Chuireas an cheist orm féin ar mhair aon rian den Ghaeilge seo i dtríochaidí na haoise seo caite? Chuas le súil a chaitheamh ar Bhailiúchán na Scol(BNS).[38] Bhí roinnt mionainmneacha Gaeilge ann ach tá siad sách truaillithe mar leaganacha agus gach seans gur féidir na leaganacha leath-Ghaelacha a leagan ar an múinteoir féin.
Seachas iad sin an t-aon fhocal Gaeilge in iontráil Scoil Ghleann an Smóil ná 'céidlidhe'.[39] Is lú go mór é seo ná ceantair eile ar bailíodh eolas do BNS iontu. Rinne mé póirseáil trí roinnt scoileanna a chuir ábhar isteach i mBNS i Loch Garman mar chomparáid agus ba mhinic liostaí focal Gaeilge ón gceantar sna blianta céanna.
Tá tagairt i leabhar Scoil Theach na Giúise do Ghleann an Smóil agus do roinnt logainmneacha Gaelacha sa cheantar máguaird ach arís eile is beag fianaise gur mhair mórán Gaeilge sa cheantar in aon chor. D'fhéadfaí a áiteamh mar sin féin gur fianaise áirithe gurb ann don mhéid seo féin.[40]
Is é an trua é nár bhailigh Ó Comhraí ná éinne eile scéalta nó tuilleadh eolais faoin gcineál Gaeilge a bhí ag na Reachtúraigh. Ag breathnú dúinn ar scéalta leithéidí Phádraig Paor as Gleann Mór i gCill Chainnigh tuigtear a thábhachtaí atá scéalta is fogharscríobh agus muid ag iarraidh canúint a athshamhlú.[41] Seans fiú amháin go mbeadh pointe eile againn ar Atlas Wagner mura mbeadh Ó Comhraí ag obair ar a bhionda leis na logainmneacha!
An Ghaeilge i dTuaisceart an Chontae
I dTuaisceart an Chontae ní hamháin go raibh an Ghaeilge agus an Béarla ann ach an tríú teanga leo, Sean-Bhéarla Fhine Gall. Bhí sí seo cosúil le Yólais, teanga úd Forth agus Bargy. An chanúint Bhéarla sin a bhíodh i bhFine Gall bhíodh béim uirthi mar a bhí i mBéarla Loch Garman Theas, agus í ag deireadh na bhfocal, ní hamháin sna hiasachtaí sin ón nGaeilge ach i bhfocail Bhéarla de bhunadh Fhraincis na Normannach.[42] Dar le Piatt go raibh Gaeilge san Aill go dtí 1899, ach tá amhras ann faoi seo. Sna focail as an Aill, tá béim ar an gcéad shiolla sna focail sin a bhfuil '-ach' agus '-ín' iontu.[43]
Tátal
Cad atá faighte amach againn mar sin?
Ainneoin fadhbanna go leor le cinnteacht agus iontaofacht an ábhair is féidir treochtaí ginearálta a aithint. Déantar amach gurb é an cineál Gaeilge a labhraíodh sa chontae ná Gaeilge a bhain le Gaeilge Chonnacht agus le Gaeilge Uladh níos mó ná Gaeilge na Mumhan agus gur ar an gcéad shiolla a bhíodh an bhéim i mBÁC theas. Ba í an réamhbhéim a bhí i bhfeidhm i dtuaisceart an chontae. Ó thaobh an fhuaimnithe d'fhuaimnítí '-adh' in ainmhfhocail mar  '-a', '-adh' san fhaí chéasta '-a' agus '-amh' in ainmfhocail mar '-ú' i dtuaisceart BHÁC agus '-a' i ndeisceart an chontae.
De bharr na dtagairtí is na leaththagairtí iomadúla don Ghaeilge sa cheantar sin laisteas de Thamhlacht go dtí an bhliain 1870, agus go bhfuil fianaise áirithe go mb'fhéidir gur mhair a cuimhne sin beagán níos faide, déanaim amach go bhfuil seans ann go raibh cainteoirí nó leathchainteoirí dúchais BHÁC ann go 1900 nó mar sin. Is dócha, ar ndóigh, go raibh aon chainteoir cumasach imithe ar shlí na fírinne roinnt mhaith blianta roimhe sin ach mar sin féin léiríonn sé go raibh Gaeilge dhúchais an chontae thart beagnach chomh fada leis an tráth ar bunaíodh an stát. Cuireann sin athleagan ar chúrsaí teanga agus staire don mhóramh.
Níor mhiste do dhuine éigin an t-iar-Aire a chur ar an eolas.

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[1] Gearrscéal ina athshamhlaítear an tAthair Pádraig Ó Duinnín ina bhleachtaire Sherlock Holmes-úil.
[2] Blag anaithnid, ach pé duine atá ina bhun tá cur amach maith aige nó aici ar chúrsaí teangeolaíochta http://dublingaelic.blogspot.ie/
Blag le Colm Ó Broin (iar-iriseoir le Lá Nua) - http://middleclassdub.blogspot.ie/
Blag le hAonghus Ó hAlmhain - http://aonghus.blogspot.ie/
[3] Labhrann Laighnigh, lch xiv agus xv, cé gurb é an 18ú haois a luann Williams i SNG.
[4] Ibid.
[5] Ua Broin, 1943, Lch. 25.
[6] Piatt, Donn S., 'An Dara Cuid-Seanghaeltacht Átha Cliath, An Naoú Céad Déag Agus Go Deireadh' in Feasta, Márta 1952, lgh. 2-4
[7] Irish Dialects and Irish-Speaking Districts, Ó Cuív, 1951, lch. 77.
[8] Labhrann Laighngh lch xiv agus xv.
[9] SNG, lch 446.
[10] O’Rahilly, Thomas, Irish Dialects Past and Present, IALBÁC, BÁC, 1972.
[11] Piatt, Donn S., Gaelic Dialect in East and Mid-Leinster, 1933, féinfhoilsithe.
[12] 1652, Williams 1986, 157 SNG.
[13] Breatnach, RA, Ceangal, Gaedhilg Chontae Chill Choinnigh, 1939, Tráchtas, Leabharlann COBÁC.
[14] Piatt, Donn S., Gaelic Dialect in East and Mid-Leinster, 1933, féinfhoilsithe.
[15] Ibid. lch 29.
[16] Piatt, Donn S., Gaelic Dialect in East and Mid-Leinster, 1933.
[17] O’Rahilly, Thomas, Irish Dialects Past and Present, IALBÁC, BÁC, 1972.
[18] Ibid.
[19] De hÓir 1975, lch 136, SNG.
[20] Crockaunadreenagh= Cnocán na nDraighneach, Crocknabrookey= Cnoc na Brocaí. Obair Choilm Uí Bhroin ar Lá Nua. Anuas air sin as na liostaí focal tá 'cregg' agus 'crig' againn ar 'cnag' agus 'criog'. Glendoo = Gleann Dubh, Skidoo = Sceach Dhubh, Trumondoo = Triomán Dubh, Lugdoo = Log Dubh.
[21] Williams, Nicholas, 1975 SNG.
[22] Piatt, Donn S., Gaelic Dialect in East and Mid-Leinster, 1933, féinfhoilsithe.
[23] O’Rahilly, Thomas, Irish Dialects Past and Present, IALBÁC, BÁC, 1972.
[23] Piatt, Donn S., Gaelic Dialect in East and Mid-Leinster, 1933, féinfhoilsithe.
[24] Ó hÓgáin, Daithí, Labhrann Laighnigh, Coiscéim, BÁC, 2011.
[25] Ó hÓgáin, Daithí, Labhrann Laighnigh, Coiscéim, BÁC, 2011.
[26]  Piatt, Donn S., Gaelic Dialect in East and Mid-Leinster, 1933, féinfhoilsithe.
[27] 1945.
[28] Cassidy, Daniel, How the Irish Invented Slang, AK Press, 2007.
[29] Piatt, Donn S., Gaelic Dialect in East and Mid-Leinster, 1933, féinfhoilsithe.
[30] Tá an t-eolas ar an mblag ag teacht le foinsí eile dar ndóigh.
[31] An Brainse Logainmneacha
[32] http://aonghus.blogspot.ie/ faighte 20/5/2016. Deir Mac Giolla Chomhaill linn go bhfuil teaghlaigh Liam Uí Reachtúra agus a dheirfiúr “Winifred” chomh maith le muintir Aindréis Uí Ghabhann le rianú siar go dtí an 18ú haois ann ach ábhairín bleachtaireachta a dhéanamh.
[33] The Fenian Traditions of Sliabh-na-m-Ban’, Transactions of the Kilkenny Archaeological Society, iml. 1, cuid 3, lch. 358 (1852).
[34] Little, Dr. George A., Malachi Horan Remembers, M.H. Gill and Son, LTD., BÁC, 1944.
[35] 'Society and Settlement in the Valley of Glenasmole' in Dublin City and County: from Prehistory to Present, BÁC: Geography Publications, lch. 201, 1992.
[36] 1933 lch 4 Feasta.
[37] http://dublingaelic.blogspot.ie/ faighte 20/5/2016. Táim ag brath cuid mhór ar eolas a cuireadh ar fáil anseo don alt seo ach feictear dom go luíonn sé le ciall.
[38] "Nearly every field in this area has a name - but the pronunciation of the names may have got twisted in tradition. I give them as far as possible phonetically and would be glad of some explanation for some of them (some seem intelligent enough) (S. Ó. M.) Curt óg "far na tramps", grittor, gravale, ord, inch, Cricán, Corrach eal, The reisk, secáin, Sliabh na muan, put mór, Árd na Cruise, parchel, oil vogar, the corrig, lug 'a' púca, the Milleán, the red scar, the hilly inch", uimhir rolla 8927, Gleann an Smóil, Co. Bhaile Átha Cliath, 1/10/37 - 20/12/38; lch 13, oide: Sr. Ó Móráin.
[39] Ibid, lch 19.
[40] "Glen na Smól or Glenasmole. Glen of "the Black Patch" The black patch been (it is said) the black patch mark left on the ground after the old Poruidhean (Bóthar na Bruidhne) has been burned down... tobar na cluas...
[41] Breatnach, RA., Gaedhilg Chontae Chill Choinnigh, 1939, Teuxsanna, An Feirmóir agus an Garsún Aimsire, mar shampla.
[42] O’Rahilly, Thomas, Irish Dialects Past and Present, IALBÁC, BÁC, 1972.
[43] Piatt, Donn S., Gaelic Dialect in East and Mid-Leinster, 1933, féinfhoilsithe.
A rich heritage of Irish language in the Liberties
By Stephen Conaty | April 30, 2013.
Féach: http://www.theliberty.ie/2013/04/30/a-rich-heritage-of-irish-language-in-the-liberties/
Irish in the Liberties
As the city’s native Irish population came under increasing British influence from the 1600s, many English settlers wrote of how Gaelic remained the commonly spoken language on the streets. Even in the years after Cromwell, city councillors would frequently receive complaints regarding the level of Irish spoken. Furthermore, a census from that period shows Gaelic as the native tongue of the majority of modern-day Kilmainham and of roughly half the wider Dublin region.
As time progressed, British presence and administration in the area strengthened, leading to a steep decline in the number of Dubliners using Irish as their first language. The Liberties seemed to somewhat buck the trend however, and was recognised by Dublin Castle as one of only two Dublin regions in which the language remained strong up to the 1830s.
The area between Whitefriar Street and Thomas Street in particular contained a largely Gaelic speaking population, to the extent that Irish could be seen on signboard advertisements. According to journalist Colm Ó Bróin, there even existed a distinct south city dialect similar to that of modern day North Mayo Irish – a Connacht dialect with strong Ulster influences.
There is evidence also, of the survival of spoken Gaelic in the Liberties, or Na Saoirsí, up to the early 1900s, and its continuation as the second language of many for generations after.
In ‘Irish in the Liberties’ published in 1985, Maírín Mooney describes the presence of the language in her locality of Pimlico, with many of the older generation of the area speaking only as Gaeilge. The extent to which Irish words made their way into the English-vernacular during that period is astounding. “There was great rí rá all together”, “She’s a grand girseach” and “He’s a right amadán” are but examples of the commonly heard phrases documented by Mooney. In more recent terms, she estimates that those using Irish fluently as a second language could make up 25-30% of the wider Dublin population by 2030.
The spoken Irish of Dublin has always and continues to this day to influence the jargon and pronunciation of every day Dublin English. As there is no th sound in Gaelic, it is not found in everyday Dublin pronunciation, for example “I tink” or “Dis and dat”. We also say for example, “I’m after…” or “I do be…” because it is a direct translation from the corresponding Irish phrase.
Figures do not lie and they tell us that Irish was spoken by over 25% of the area’s population up to the mid-1700s. There has been a slow decline since, but Gaelic was certainly spoken in the Dublin Liberties for centuries and continues to influence the everyday speech pattern of Dubs to this day.

* Irish language#The urban aspect: Dublin and elsewhere - Alison ❤ 02:57, 17 Bealtaine 2013 (UTC)

Tá an mhír “An teanga féin” athchóirithe agam. Chuireas teideal nua uirthi (“Canúintí Bhaile Átha Cliath”) agus bhaineas cuid ábhar amach chun slacht a chur uirthi. Bhí roinnt tagairtí cruinne in easnamh ar an seanleagan. Chuireas ábhar nua leis an alt, cé gur fearr gontacht ná foclaíocht.
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Nach fearr Nuala Ní Fhaoláin a thabhairt uirthi? Nó baintear úsáid as an bhfoirm Bhearlaithe: O’Faolain. -- MacCambridge (talk) 21:32, 28 Meitheamh 2013 (UTC)

Ba cheart an leagan sin a úsáid. Tá sé mícheart ar fad Ó Faoláin a úsáid do bhean.

:An ceart agaibh, ar ndóigh—"Nuala Ní Fhaoláin" an leagan ceart dá hainm i nGaeilge. Ach an fhoirm Bhearlaithe a d'úsáid sí féin agus gach duine eile, nach mór. Téimis le "Nuala O'Faoláin" mar sin. Sin an riail atá i bhfeidhm ar Wikipedia—gnáthleagan d'ainm duine a úsáid.  SeoMac (plé) 17:55, 31 Iúil 2018 (UTC)


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Dia duits!! Tá mé Miss Bono! Tá Máire ina cónaí san Cuba.. An bhfuil anybody who can welcome me? I need a favour from anyone who can speak both Irish and English. Please reply here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User talk:Miss Bono... Thanks very much! Miss Bono (talk) 19:11, 2 Iúil 2013 (UTC)


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Haigh, a SarahStierch, agus tá fáilte romhat chuig an Vicipéid! Go raibh maith agat as do chuid dréachtaí a sheoladh isteach. Tá súil agam go mbainfidh tú taitneamh as d'am anseo! Tá sé éasca ailt nua a chruthú, agus téigh go dtí an Halla Baile chun caint leis na Vicipéideoirí eile (más mian leat é sin a dhéanamh), nó téigh go dtí an Lárionad Comhphobail chun breathnú ar na heachtraí Vicipéide is déanaí. Tá breis eolais fóinteach in ár reamhrá, freisin.
Más é do thoil é, sínigh do chuid theachtaireachtaí ar leathanaigh phlé le ceithre thilde a chlóscríobh (~~~~); ciallaíonn sé sinn go hionsáfar d'ainm úsáideora agus an dáta go huathoibríoch. Má tá cabhair ag teastail uait, féach ar Vicipéid:Cabhair, nó cuir ceist dom armo leathanach phlé. Uair amháin eile, fáilte romhat! - Alison ❤ 04:15, 9 Iúil 2013 (UTC)

Fixed it! - welcome to the Irish Language Wikipedia, BTW - Alison ❤ 04:15, 9 Iúil 2013 (UTC)


Plé:Eachroim, Contae an Chabháin

Nach fearr Eachdhroim nó Eachroim a rá, an logainm atá ar bhailte eile darb ainm "Aughrim" i mBéarla?
Féach: http://www.logainm.ie/Viewer.aspx?text=Aughrim -- MacCambridge (talk) 13:00, 14 Iúil 2013 (UTC)

ceithre bliana gan freagra :) -- MacCambridge (plé) 12:57, 24 Iúil 2017 (UTC)
Ha ha! Ceithre bliaina gan freagra? Sums up Vicipéid.
Cá bhfios....Tá a lán frithráite sa Ghaeilge, ceapaim, agus údarás lárnach ar bith ann. Chaco  13:27, 24 Iúil 2017 (UTC)

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The Welsh Wikipedia now has over 50,000 articles. Could someone please change this template to reflect this fact? Cathfolant (talk) 21:40, 18 Lúnasa 2013 (UTC)

Guliolopez (talk) 11:00, 19 Lúnasa 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Asturian wikipedia has over 100,000 articles. Could someone please add the link in this template?... --Mikel (plé) 20:23, 10 Iúil 2020 (UTC)


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Vicipéid: Éireannach                	Vicipéid: Éireannach
Oideachas Tríú Leibhéal:            	An Coláiste Ollscoile, Baile Átha Cliath (BA sa Nua-Ghaeilge, le Stair na hEalaíne)
An Coláiste Ollscoile, Baile Átha Cliath (MA Scríobh agus Cumarsáid na Gaeilge)
Tír:                                	Éire

Sealanna Caite sna Tíortha a leanas:	Sealanna Caite sna Tíortha a leanas:
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I measc na bpost a bhí ag Mícheál tá: Comhairleoir Seachtrach le Fiontar, LeabhairComhar, Cois Life agus eile; Teagascóir, Cúntóir Teanglainne leis an gColáiste Ollscoile, Baile Átha Cliath; Léachtóir Seachtrach, Cúntóir Eagarthóireachta le Fiontar, Ollscoil Chathair Bhaile Átha Cliath; Oifigeach Slándála le Laing O'Rourke agus líne ghlás an Luais á shíneadh ó Áth an Ghainimh go Coill na Silíní. Chaith Mícheál ceithre bliana ag obair i siopa eischeadúnais Molloys freisin, áit ar éirigh leis teastas sa bhlaise fíona agus biotáille a bhaint amach.
Is féidir teagmháil a dhéanamh leis ag 'michealomeachair ag gmail ponc com' nó '@momeachair'.

* An tOideachas
* An Úsáid Teanga
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Thanks for your contribution. However, the "there is no V" argument has been discussed on that page previously, is  an argument based on a flawed premise, and is not something the community has appetite to re-open. If you are interested in improving the project, then positive contributions are openly welcomed. Random heckles from the gallery aren't really all that helpful. GRMA. Guliolopez (talk) 12:04, 5 Samhain 2013 (UTC)


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