Plé úsáideora:Footyfanatic3000

Not sure what dictionary you have, but "beor" is not Irish for beer. Slang for "girlfriend" in some parts of the country. But not = "beer". Guliolopez 10:49, 23 Aibreán 2009 (UTC)

Hi. It's probably best to open a discussion with the editor who added them, or to open a question on an article talk page (asking for clarity on why the tags were added) before removing any cleanup tags. (Collaborative interaction is one of the key tenets of the Etiquette guidelines.) I have not readded the tags, but would encourage you to discuss with the editor in question. Guliolopez 10:04, 28 Aibreán 2009 (UTC)

Níl a bhuíochas ort! Tuigim...tarlaíonn an rud céanna i mo chás féin uaireanta.  Go minic, is iad do bhotúin féin na botúin is deacra a fheiceáil! Tameamseo 23:05, 30 Aibreán 2009 (UTC)

Is deas uait é sin a rá...ní miste liom i ndáiríre ach is féidir leat mé a mholadh mar iarrthóir más mian leat!  Lean ar aghaidh leis an ndea-obair atá á dhéanamh agat féin in aon chás.  Tameamseo

As per the naming of the equivalent article in the EN project, until Lee actually stands in an election and/or is voted into political office, then COMMONNAME holds that the DAB suffix reflect the most common thing for which he is known. Which remains journalism. For now. IE: Let's wait until after June 5 (or until he actually contests or holds a political office) before relabelling him "politician". Guliolopez 19:04, 11 Bealtaine 2009 (UTC)
Well, yeah I actually see your point. Thanks (Footyfanatic3000 19:31, 11 Bealtaine 2009 (UTC))

Slan, Footyfanatic3000!
I'm glad to announce that we've started a new Ireland Wikimedian email list, that you can join, at mail:WikimediaIE. For Wikimedians in Ireland and Wikimedians interested in events in Ireland and efforts in Ireland. It's there to to discuss meetups, partnerships with Museums and National Archives, and anything else where Wikipedia and real life intersect.  :) --Bastique 21:52, 14 Bealtaine 2009 (UTC)

Bhuel, nilim cinnte i ndáiríre.  Baile na Sceilge a bhíodh agamsa de ghnáth ar an áit, cosúil leatsa.  Ach mheas mé go mba cheart úsáid a bhaint as ainm oifigiúil logainm.ie.  (Bain mé triail as Google freisin agus bhí níos mó torthaí ann don leagan Baile an Sceilg ná don leagan Baile na Sceilge).  Cad a cheapann tú faoin scéal? Tameamseo 22:48, 6 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

Déanta Tameamseo 23:03, 7 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

I was under the impression that this is supposed to be an encyclopedia. The name of the stadium is the Stadio Giuseppe Meazza and it's located in San Siro. It's commonly referred to as San Siro and this can and should be noted in the article. What's the problem? Onetonycousins 17:07, 8 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

Hi. When creating the "cities in {country}" templates you started on, can you please consider that navboxes should group related subjects for ease of navigation. I know that this was your intent as well, but it may be a little bit confusing to have a (somewhat) arbitrary grouping in some of the templates you've created. For example:
* In Ireland, there are officially 5 cities. 7 if one includes historic and "traditional" cities. Our navbox has 6. The navbox should at least probably have a hatnote that identifies why these 6 are included. (Compare to :en:Template:Cities in Ireland)
* In Italy, there are thousands of "comuni". And maybe 50+ cities with populations of 100,000 or more. Our navbox has 8 relatively arbitrary members. I understand that we're only listing the ones with articles, and appreciate that WP:NAVBOX would recommend against redlinks in navboxes, but maybe it might be better to use a slightly more restricted criteria (with better defined bounds). Like :en:Template:Regional capitals of Italy
* In the US, the "city status" concept isn't what we're used to. (EG: :en:Benjamin, Texas is a "city" with only 264 inhabitants). And so "cities in the US" as a navbox with just 10 members is a bit random. Similar to Italy it might be better to use something like :en:Template:US state capitals instead.
(It would also be good to categorise your new templates. Under :Catagóir:Teimpléid or a sub-cat. So that people can find them.)
Cheers. Guliolopez 17:05, 17 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

I know that there are lots more cities in the US and Italy, but I only listed the big ones in each case, because I thought that people would have more interest in these ones. If you want to though I can make navboxes out of them, Footyfanatic3000 17:23, 17 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

GRMA! Tameamseo 21:49, 15 Iúil 2009 (UTC)

Before you spend too long translating that Bavarian gallery, please note that - per WP:NOTREPOSITORY - we shouldn't have extensive photograph galleries. Pictures are really supposed to be in context and supportive of the text. In some cases (for layout reasons for example) we might feel the need to have a gallery of half-a-dozen images. But anything more and we should just be linking to a commons category or page. (Coz that's what Commmons is for...) Guliolopez 17:41, 2 Meán Fómhair 2009 (UTC)

Ok I just received your message. I actually took the gallery from the English wiki, not commons. But I've removed it from the page anyway. Do you think we could use one or two of the pictures though, such as Neuschwanstein castle? Footyfanatic3000 17:45, 2 Meán Fómhair 2009 (UTC)

:Yup. In fact a "gallery" of a few pics might be OK. Just not dozens.Guliolopez 21:48, 2 Meán Fómhair 2009 (UTC)

::Ok fine Footyfanatic3000 15:45, 3 Meán Fómhair 2009 (UTC)

Can you translate the content from simple:Teletubbies? Thanks! Ice Age lover 00:57, 2 Meán Fómhair 2009 (UTC)

Ok I'll do it when I have the time, but if a page like that is to be translated it would take a long time. I'll do it eventually hopefully --Footyfanatic3000 16:00, 2 Meán Fómhair 2009 (UTC)

::What is the reason for this? I know there's no Irish version of the movie but couldn't it tell you what the title means in Irish for Irish speakers? They do this at Welsh. OK, I know this isn't Welsh, but still. I think it's wonderful to have translations of titles. Also, this article at simple has just some stuff so I'd appericate if we could translate this:
Story: A little girl named Alice is bored from her history lesson given by her sister. She, along with her kitten, Dinah, sneaks away and dream a world full of nonsense. However, Alice sees an unusual White Rabbit, who was holding large golden pocket watch and running off in a hurry. Curious to know where the Rabbit is going, Alice decides to follow him down the rabbit hole, where her adventures in Wonderland begin. Changing sizes from big to small, meeting bizarre people, like the Mad Hatter, the March Hare, the Cheshire Cat and the Caterpillar, Alice is tired from her adventures in Wonderland and wishes to go home.
That wouldn't be hard would it? Also, phttp://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice%27s_Adventures_in_Wonderland this] needs a page here too. I was gonna do it but I'm not a native Irish so the content would be small, like The Fox and the Hound (leabhar), which is also at simple. OK, I'm being gready, but I love these movies! Ice Age lover 14:39, 20 Meán Fómhair 2009 (UTC)

:::I removed it because "Alice i iontach" actually means "Alice in Wonderful" rather than "Alice in Wonderland". I know you were trying to help but if your Irish isn't top notch then you could consider asking other users for help. "Alice in Wonderland", unlike some other movies like The Lion King and The Fox and the Hound is awkward to directly translate so it's best to exclude the translation in this case. --Footyfanatic3000 19:03, 20 Meán Fómhair 2009 (UTC)

Tá siad deisithe anois. Woohoo!!! Bhí rud éigean mícheart sa spás Mediawiki. Sorted ;) - Alison ❤ 10:34, 12 Mí na Nollag 2009 (UTC)

Go raibh míle maith agat! --Footyfanatic3000 16:51, 12 Mí na Nollag 2009 (UTC)

A chara,
Gabh mo leithsceal ach ní raibh mé ag cur ar aghaidh mo thuairmse féin dá ndearna mé athrú leis an alt sin ar Dhún Pádraig ar Vicipéid, ar na mallaibh, agus créidim go raibh agus go bhfuil an ceart agam ar an rud a scríobh mé.  Is é ceann de na fadhbanna is coiteanta a ghéibh tú le daoine nach bhfuil eolas acu ar stair an baile go ceart. Is chuid mhór stair atá ann ag baint leis an baile seo agus i bhfad níos mó ná mórán bailte eile in Éirinn agus ag dul siar mílte blianta chomh maith, gan amhras.
Le cuidiú Dé, tá rún agam le bheith ag scríobh níos mó ar an leathanach sin ins an t-am atá le teacht agus, dar ndóigh, beidh mé ag soláthar foinsí.
Is mise le meas,
Gaelicpoet

Tá brón orm, a Ghaelicpoet, ach an fáth gur athraigh mé an leathanach ar ais ná gur úsáid tú an téarma iontach, agus gur úsáid tú abairt nár fhéach mar go raibh sé i gceart. Caithfear téarmaí mar "iontach" a sheachaint (léigh WP:NPOV), agus beidh ort foinse a fháil don chéad abairt. Le meas, Footyfanatic3000 11:31, 23 Mí na Nollag 2009 (UTC)

GRMA as do chomhairle, ach cad tá cearr le seo leanas?
cad mar gheall ar {féach ar an gcód}JP2JP2 23:59, 30 Eanáir 2010 (UTC)
GRMA arís. Cad é an tslí is fearr chun táblaí a chur isteach. Via an icon beag ón vicipéid editor nó mar html?JP2JP2 14:17, 31 Eanáir 2010 (UTC)
Ar ais arís. Féach ar Fallás Matamaitice. Theip orm iota maith a chlóbhuail ag deireadh an ailt. Tá cinn deas i Matamaitic.
Ná bac leis an cheist sin muna dtuigeann tú é. Ceist eile, teastaíónn uaim  Fállás Matamaitice a chur ar cheal -- síne fada san áit mí-cheart.JP2JP2 22:36, 2 Feabhra 2010 (UTC)
Ar ais arís eile. Chuir mé leathanach nua faoi Paradacsa Simpson, ach tá deacrachtaí ann. Thóg mé tagairtí ó Wikipedia agus tá rud éigin mícheart ina ndiaidh. Freisin taistíonn uaim an Tábla agus agus Figiúr a chur taobh le taobh go deas néata. Ní thuigim i gceart fós na tomhais a bhaineann leis na .png. Tá GKSimpson.png agus GKSimpson1.png uaslódaithe agam. Tá an dara ceann níos mó ná an céad ceann.JP2JP2 21:28, 5 Feabhra 2010 (UTC)
Cheartaigh úsáideor eile an príomh-rud a bhí lochtach. Go raibh maith agat arís.JP2JP2 23:04, 6 Feabhra 2010 (UTC)

Hi Footyfanatic3000, I'd like to make a brief point. This is Vicipéid, an Irish encyclopedia. This is not the english language wikipedia. I haven't seen a page on here discussing an ainm coiteann rule but if there is one, I cannot believe that it says articles must be named using the subject's most commonly used name in the english language.
Your use of the word Footy in your username would indicate to me that you probably follow british football and thus, probably use a lot of the phrases and names associated with british football. That's fine.
However, while the Stadio Giuseppe Meazza may be known as the san siro in british football circles, the majority of other wikis use the stadium's correct name. I don't know what the Meazza's common name is in the Irish language and I don't know how to find out. Therefore, I think a factual approach should be taken with it and other such articles. I could provide other examples but I think you get the point.
Your renaming of the Associazione Calcio Milan article was wrong in my opinion. Abbreviation should be avoided unless absolutely necessary. Someone typing A.C. Milan is going to reach the page anyway through a redirect and there, they can learn the club's proper name. Onetonycousins 17:08, 3 Bealtaine 2010 (UTC)

Hi Onetonycousins. Please read :en:WP:COMMONNAME. The policy has not been translated to Irish yet, but it applies to all Wikipedias, regardless of language. The reason why this rule is in effect to reflect names that the people know. In this case, everyone calls this club either "Milan" or "A.C. Milan". The club is only very rarely referred to as "Associazone Calcio Milan", so therefore this could be considered to be in breach of policy.
Also, if you look through the interwikis, the vast majority of other languages call the article "A.C. Milan" so why shouldn't we follow suit?
Abbreviation should be avoided unless absolutely necessary"
Not necessarily. Does that mean that we should rename BBC Northern Ireland as "British Broadcasting Corporation Northern Ireland"? We use abbreviations here for the same reason that they're used elsewhere, that is to shorten names or phrases that would otherwise be very long.
Your use of the word Footy in your username would indicate to me that you probably follow british football and thus, probably use a lot of the phrases and names associated with british football. That's fine.
I follow all types of sports including soccer from all over Europe and GAA. I came up with this username on the spot.
I won't revert your rename for now to avoid an edit war, instead we'll continue to discuss this. --Footyfanatic3000 17:50, 3 Bealtaine 2010 (UTC)
* The policy that you have cited does not apply to all Wikipedias. The common name is taken into account on all of the wikis that I'm familiar with but its importance varies. The Italian wikipedia is an example of this. From what I can see, it takes a much more encyclopedic approach to naming articles but will opt for a common or shortened name in exceptional cases. I think that's a reasonable and common sense approach.
* Using the Milan example again, the club's name is Associazone Calcio Milan. That is a fact. A.C. Milan is an abbreviation. Is an abbreviation necessary here? The title isn't too long for Vicipéid, which should rule out the use of an abbreviation, and it isn't ambiguous or misleading. So to use a different name for the club purely because it's more common, or in this case possibly more common, seems wrong to me. If COMMONNAME was really king then the english language wiki would have articles titled Man United or Inter Milan, which would be absurd in my opinion. I think factual accuracy should be respected in an encyclopedia and common sense used when exceptions arise.
* On the BBC NI example that you provided, I think I've already addressed this. British Broadcasting Corporation Northern Ireland is too long in my and your opinion. Abbreviation would be necessary. Associazone Calcio Milan is nowhere near as long as that or some other titles used on here. It's fine.
* Finally, I'll just go back to your point about "following suit" in terms of other wikis. I'd be very cautious about adopting such an attitude or modus operandi with regard to improving and expanding this encyclopedia but if we are to "follow suit" when it comes to naming articles, then I think we should strongly consider the suit of the subject's "home" i.e. . Onetonycousins 05:39, 4 Bealtaine 2010 (UTC)

Tá mé bron bodhraigh leat. Is é mo ainm Claudi Balaguer (Capsot as an Viquipèdia Catalóine) agus mé i mo bhall de chumann "Amical de la Viquipèdia" atá ag iarraidh a bheith ina Chaibidil (an eagraíocht idirmheánach faoi chuid Wikimedia Foundation) ach tá fás mór tagtha ar an éileamh a diúltaíodh mar gheall ar nach bhfuil ionadaíocht ag an stát Catalóinis. I'm terribly sorry do mo chuid Gaeilge, tá mé ag baint úsáide as an aistritheoir uathoibrithe agus tá mé cinnte an tarraing téacs ach nuair a d'fhág mé na teachtaireachtaí i mBéarla amháin ar aon chuma cúraim. Is féidir leat a thaispeáint dúinn bhur dtacaíocht a ghreamú an teimpléad seo: Wikimedia CAT chun do leathanach úsáideora. Go raibh maith agat agus leithscéal as intíocht seo. Tá súil agam go Gaeilge agus tá an Vicipéid beidh forás a dhéanamh. Is féidir leat brath ar mo thacaíocht nó aon chabhair, beidh mé sásta cabhrú leat an chuid is fearr is féidir liom. An scéal leatsa, ba mhaith liom tú samhradh taitneamhach agus grianmhar. Slán agat, Capsot 09:27, 22 Meitheamh 2010 (UTC)

Please, let me know when you are around by placing a message on my talk in the English Wiki. Thank you very much. Miss Bono


Plé úsáideora:88.151.27.232

Thanks for your edits of late, but note that "translating" foreign person names like this isn't appropriate. Unless someone uses the Irish version of their name, then we don't "translate" it for them. To do so is "original research" and against our tenets. Even with Irish politicians there is a question on whether we should use Irish names if the politician him/herself doesn't. For foreign politicians therefore "translating" their name is totally inappropriate - as there is no real world basis for it. Compare for example the inappropriateness of a translation like "Barac Ó Bama". Guliolopez 17:27, 4 Bealtaine 2009 (UTC)


Plé úsáideora:Mangaire

Haigh, , agus tá fáilte romhat chuig an Vicipéid! Go raibh maith agat as do chuid dréachtaí a sheoladh isteach. Tá súil agam go mbainfidh tú taitneamh as d'am anseo! Tá sé éasca ailt nua a chruthú, agus téigh go dtí an Halla Baile chun caint leis na Vicipéideoirí eile (más mian leat é sin a dhéanamh), nó téigh go dtí an Lárionad Comhphobail chun breathnú ar na heachtraí Vicipéide is déanaí.
Más é do thoil é, sínigh do chuid theachtaireachtaí ar leathanaigh phlé le ceithre thilde a chlóscríobh (~~~~); ciallaíonn sé sinn go hionsáfar d'ainm úsáideora agus an dáta go huathoibríoch. Má tá cabhair ag teastail uait, féach ar Vicipéid:Cabhair, nó cuir ceist dom ar . Uair amháin eile, fáilte romhat!   --AllieBot 05:08, 19 Bealtaine 2009 (UTC)

Please stop moving this page unilaterally after some self-imposed deadline. As you can clearly see from the talk page this has some up before, is potentially controversial, and so any move would require discussion and a measure of agreement amongst editors. Statements like "I'll wait 24 hours for a counter argument, else I'm moving" are not in the spirit of WP:CON. Guliolopez 21:23, 19 Lúnasa 2009 (UTC)
GLopez, it is my belief that this is an entirely unfair message. The page was moved by me about a week ago to be approximate I believe, with an explanatory message being left by me on the Plé. The other name was put in place again by the user Footyfanatic, with no explanation or reason given other than saying something about sticking to vicí an Bhéarla that you yourself declared a couple of days ago to be improper. Thus the day before yesterday, with nobody whatsoever having bothered to reply to me on the Plé and nobody whatsoever having bothered to give an actual reason to oppose my actions, I wrote a message to say that as this was the case I would put back the oileán if I found a continuing absence of anybody prepared to engage with me on this issue by the following day. When the next day still I saw no reply or explanation after the elapse of approximately one week since I first made the proposals, I followed the course of action I had laid out on the Plé.
The result was this message of yours of 21:23, 19 Lúnasa 2009, which appeared to me abrupt and unfair and to misrepresent my actions. If it is the case that you are in opposition to my proposals it is my suggestion that you give reasons why you disagree with them and why they are a bad idea or against the rules of the Vicipéid, rather than send me unfair messages that misrepresent my actions. My thanks. Mangaire 18:23, 20 Lúnasa 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Mangaire for explaining your actions. However, I'm with Guliolopez - if a change is possibly contraversial, it should be discussed until there is some kind of consensus. If you feel that your proposal is not generating adequate discussion, then escalate it to the Riarthóirí. If we really want to talk about being abrupt and unfair, the only example that I have seen lately is your comment on the Seán Óg de Paor article "CABHRÓIDH MÉ LEAT A SHEÁIN. IS IOMAíí FADHB ATÁ DEISITHE AGAM. DáLA AN SCÉIL, AN DTUIGEANN TÚ AN TUISEAL GINIDEACH?". The Vicipéid is a community, in which respect for the genuine efforts of others is the key, so please try to keep these kind of comments to yourself. Cheers. --Antóin 18:45, 20 Lúnasa 2009 (UTC)
A chara, I thank you for the message, but in truth if you read the Plé I had already fully explained my actions on there prior to making the actions in question, just the explanations were it seems ignored and unanswered!
But is it indeed the case that you don't think it's unfair that when after a week nobody has answered my attempts to initiate discussion on the page or given any reasons to oppose my suggestion and I accordingly go ahead with my proposals I get a message which seems to accuse me of wrongdoing implying that I made unilateral improper changes after only allowing 24 hours for counter-arguments? Possibly this was not in truth GLopez's intent but that's the impression I get when I read it.
Maidir le "cabhróidh mé leat", cathain a dúirt mé na rudaí sin ar an alt Seán Óg de Paor? D'fhéach mé ar an alt faoi Sheán Óg de Paor agus ní fheicim é.
I thank you for the tip on "escalating it to the Riarthóirí" if this is indeed a rule on Vicipéid when nobody answers your attempts to initiate discussions on a Plé page after a week. What might be the usual procedure for this?
It is not my intention to argue that my actions have been always gan locht but it seems to me that others are not entirely blameless and certainly may have caused misunderstanding through apparently not reading things carefully enough. And certainly I cannot in conscience agree that GLopez's message was entirely fair in what it, perhaps unintentionally, seemed to me to imply as explained above in this message. Perhaps you would like to make a fuller examination of what I actually did and what it seemed to me when I read the message I was accused of doing? I feel there has been some misunderstanding in this matter and must protest at the idea that it was fair to accuse me of the things which I explained the message perhaps unintentionally appeared to imply. After the course of action I followed to say "Please stop moving this page unilaterally after some self-imposed deadline." and "Statements like "I'll wait 24 hours for a counter argument, else I'm moving" are not in the spirit of WP:CON." seems unjust as it is certainly not an accurate description of my actions. Again, I must feel that GLopez perhaps did not fully understand the course of events. I would be more satisfied if he were to furnish some explanation of why he represented my actions in this somewhat misleading way.Mangaire 19:33, 20 Lúnasa 2009 (UTC)
My mistake, the article I was referring to was that on Seán de Paor, see your comments there in the comment history. --Antóin 07:27, 21 Lúnasa 2009 (UTC)
Tuigim. I perceive nothing wrong with the first two sentences but must admit that in truth the "an dtuigeann tú an tuiseal ginideach" was perhaps ruder and more abrupt than I would have intended. My apologies if this caused undue offence to any úsáídeoir. In any case it's a side issue not truly relevant to the main discussionn. Mangaire 09:53, 21 Lúnasa 2009 (UTC)
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Firstly I do need to apologise. My first message in this thread was a little unfair and abrupt. As I hinted at in my message on Plé:Éire because of the lack of sigs, and Footyfanatic's revert, I somehow thought there was an ongoing discussion in play that your actions weren#t taking account of. I was mistaken and apologise. However, though my note of censure was misplaced, I still think that WP:CON requires discussion/debate before controversial moves. And so, while it's not a reasonable excuse, time pressures meant I didn't take the time I should have to investigate the history before posting the above. And for that I apologise.
Now. That said, I still think the move was premature. I understand your comment about "nobody bothered to respond, therefore I just went ahead". However - given that there aren't as many editors here as (say) on the EN project - we probably need to be a bit more proactive in seeking CON. (IE: Talk pages aren't read as frequently as they might be, and so placing a message that says "I'll move unless I see any objection in X hours/days" doesn't really meet the WP:CON mandate.) Had I done things properly, this is what my message should have said. And it should have said it in a more constructive manner. Guliolopez 08:55, 21 Lúnasa 2009 (UTC)
My thanks for explaining your actions. Ní bhíonn saoi gan locht, but he who can admit an error is to be admired. Thanks also for drawing my attention to the message you had placed already at Plé:Éíre. (Incidentally, I must in turn furnish an apology for the lack of signature there which appears not to have been without a role in this unnecessary misunderstanding). It satisfies me to have been provided with this explanation of how the misrepresentation of my actions came about and to have been given an actual reason why someone might wish to follow a course other than the proposal. If we have indeed cleared up the confusion and misunderstanding then perhaps we may move ahead free of it. Gura míle. Mangaire 09:53, 21 Lúnasa 2009 (UTC)


Plé úsáideora:86.45.72.140

I don't mean to interrupt you editing Vicipéid, but please don't place offensive comments on other people's userpages.--Footyfanatic3000 21:16, 1 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

You said not to take credit for work done by other editors, the only crdiet I have taken is for the Derry City, Bohs and Shamrock Rovers pages, but I have vastly improved them. I put in the team squads, updated finishes, put in the history for Derry and Bohs among many other things and have just re-vamped the Shelbourne page.
Oh, and League of Ireland = Real Football Real Fans!--Leagueofireland 22:16, 1 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)22:14, 1 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

Please refrain from attacking people's user pages. That's what talk pages are for. If someone wants to claim credit for work they haven't done then let them - at the end of the day, a quick glance through the page's history will verify or repudiate such claims. Editing a user's personal space is inappropriate and offensive. --MacTire02 23:33, 1 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

Take a quick glance down the pages of Shelbourne, Bohemians and Derry City. You will see that there was nothing on the page for Bohemians except a couple of lines but I put in the squad, updated the infromation, added the history, put in the club website. I did pretty much the same with the Derry page. My honesty is intact a chara.--Leagueofireland 15:28, 2 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)


Plé úsáideora:EÓMurchadha

Fáilte chuig an Vicipéid, a Rí na Gaeilge!--Footyfanatic3000 16:24, 5 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)
Beagnach ag 10,000 lch, táim ar bís ar fad!
10,000 alt, nach iontach ar deireadh, bíodh an 100,000 mar sprioc anois againn! Rinagaeilge 16:28, 20 Feabhra 2010 (UTC)
Conas ar féidir liom mo ainm úsáideora a athrú a dhaoine uaisle? Rinagaeilge 04:10, 15 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

Féach anseo.... Guliolopez 09:11, 15 Iúil 2010 (UTC)

Sin déanta anois :) - Alison ❤ 05:10, 17 Mí na Nollag 2010 (UTC)
Go raibh míle maith agat! Eomurchadha
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Dia dhuit a EÓMurchadha. Chonaic mé go raibh tú ag scríobh mórán alt faoi pholaiteoirí Éireannacha. Tá ceist agam dhuit faoi na hailt sin. Agus tú ag scríobh ailt nua, an féidir leat an teimpléad {{DEFAULTSORT:Sloinne, Ainm}} a chur ag deireadh an ailt, agus roimh na catagóirí agus an liosta idirtheangach? Cuireann an teimpléad sin ainmneacha na ndaoine ins na catagóirí in ord aibítreach. Go raibh maith agat. --MacTire02 14:46, 6 Bealtaine 2011 (UTC)
Déanfaidh mé sin. Go raibh maith agat. Eomurchadha 16:03, 6 Bealtaine 2011 (UTC)

Haigh a EÓMurchadha, bhí mé díreach ag iarraidh ceist a chur ort maidir leis na hathruithe d'Fhinnegans Wake - caidé a bhí i gceist agat leis an tuiseal ginideach? D'amharc mé ar an leathanach Béarla is fós cha dtuigim é. --Ancatmara 20:19, 12 Meitheamh 2011 (UTC)

Shamhlófá go mbeadh uaschamóg ann, ach níl sin ann sa Bhéarla, mar sin níl an tuis gin ann sa leagan as Béarla, is níor chóir go mbeadh as Gaeigle Thóg mé seo thíos ó Vicí an Bhéarla, ach ní fheadar bhfuil aon bhunús leis.
'Joyce removed the apostrophe in the title of his novel in order to suggest an active process in which a multiplicity of "Finnegans", that is, all members of humanity, fall and then wake and arise.'
Seans gur chóir Faire na bhFionnagán a bheith againn mar sin. Eomurchadha 11:13, 13 Meitheamh 2011 (UTC)

Hello! Thanks for your help. Could you translate into Irish -
# Ireland in the Eurovision Song Contest
# Eurovision Song Contest 2011
? Thank you very much! Regards, Julia L. 15:29, 12 Deireadh Fómhair 2011 (UTC)
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Níoɼ ċeaɼt ɼud a ċuɼ ſuaſ i mBéaɼla, muna ḃfuil ſé aiſtriṫe go Gaeilge.
Cinnte, an féidir le duine é a chur i bhfolach? An féidir leatsa díreach an cló rómhánach a úsaid chomh maith? 137.43.193.111

Thanks. Badanedwa 21:50, 11 Mí na Samhna 2011 (UTC)

Cabhrú le do thoil feabhas a chur ar an t-alt: Santa Cruz de Tenerife.
D'fhéadfadh cabhrú le feabhas a Correjir article: Tenerife
Raibh míle maith agat.--81.35.202.65 13:05, 26 Mí na Samhna 2011 (UTC)

Dia duit, b'fhéidir go d'fhéadfaí tú a cabhrú liom. Féach le do thoil anseo agus anseo freisin agus cabhrú aistriú an abairt "Ireland Portal" i gceart. Go raibh maith agat.  --HighKing (talk) 20:48, 11 Iúil 2012 (UTC)
D'athraigh mé é, grma, 'Fáilte go Tairseach na hÉireann' 'Welcome to the Ireland Portal' Eomurchadha (talk) 21:08, 11 Iúil 2012 (UTC)

Maidir leis an tairiscint seo:

Táim sásta stuif mar seo a ghlanadh is is tapúla i bhfad iad seo a ghlanadh ná ailt a chruthú ó bhonn dar liom.
Tá "liosta" agam, agus na leathanaigh (nua) is measa air. Féach anseo. Beir bua leis agus míle buíochas duit! Guliolopez (talk) 11:29, 19 Mí na Nollag 2012 (UTC)
grma, rachaidh mé tríothu mar sin

* David Guetta dioscliosta
* Kylie Minogue dioscliosta

Haha, go raibh maith agat ag cur i gcuimhne dom an interwiki a chur san áireamh. Tá an córas nua (.i. Wikidata) ag cur isteach orm, sílim! Rob Lindsey (talk) 21:56, 11 Márta 2013 (UTC)
fadhb ar bith, bail ar an obair, is abair liom ma tá cabhair de dhíth le haon rud. 86.40.137.244 00:05, 12 Márta 2013 (UTC)

Tá!  Timpeall is 6000 alt nua á réiteach agam, agus cuirfidh mé suas ar an Vicipéid iad de réir a chéile.  Is gá nascanna idirvicí a dhéanamh de láimh, agus rudaí eile mar shampla grianghrafanna, boscaí eolais, mar sin de.  Bheinn buíoch díot as aon chabhair! Kevin Scannell (talk) 12:25, 12 Meitheamh 2013 (UTC)
==
cheoldráma spáis, cibearphonc, space opera, cyberpunk focail
cúrsa gaeilge
dearadh
cruinneas
clisteacht
síceolaíocht
tenagacha gaeilge
feachtais eile

Blípire - glaoire, gléas beag a chuirann blípeanna de le teachtaireachtaí leis, is féidir na teachtaireachtaí a sheoladh ó fhóin le go mglaofaidh an duine ar cuireadh an blíp chuige nó chuici glaoch ar ais.
intéirnigh - dochtúir cónaithe, go hiondúil In Éirinn agus sa Bhreatainn, dochtúirí sóisearacha sa chéad bhliain tar éis dóibh cáiliú.
Cannúl(feadan caol le leachtanna is antaibheachtacha a chur isteach i bhféitheacha duine)
imscrúduithe leighis - lena n-áirítear scrúduithe agus tástálacha a chuirtear ar othair le teacht ar chúiseanna agus chéimeanna galar.
liostaí inscopaíochta, línte beaga a chur isteach agus cead a fháil uathu.
postanna beaga ar fud an ospidéil, pian ar dhuine anseo, grío in áit eile,
duine le seoladh aabhile, litir le cur go dtí dochtúir teaghlaigh acu, cógas leighis a thbhairt dóibh agus coinní dochtúra a eagrú amach anseo dóibh
timpeall ar na bardaí linn arís, ag cur na n-othar ar na oleas 7
táimse ar dulgas anocht
cúntóirí sláinte - healthcare assisstant -
stad cairdiach -

Beveridge
castro
sláinteThe Cuban model of public health has been evolving for 60years and parallels the
development of the British NHS. The vision outlined by Castro in his 1953 ‘history
will absolve’ echoes strongly of Beveridge’s vision for the British welfare state and
the ‘war’ on the five evil giants of want, ignorance, squalor, idleness and disease.
Significantly both men also recognised the importance of collective action in
achieving their goals. More recently, in 1984 it was to the British health system and
the GP model in particular that Cuba when it began a radical transformation and
reorientation of its health system towards primary care. Despite the serious problems
of economic and political isolation that it has encountered along the way, Cuba has
succeeded in achieving health outcomes comparable with the UK and other highincome
countries. Significantly although the Eastern European countries had
achieved remarkable health outcomes in the 1960; this trend started to wane through
the 70s and as Richard Wilkinson observed: “by the late 80s all the Western
European countries had higher life expectancy than every Eastern European
country.” (2005:114).
This paper draws on the findings of a case study (including 20 weeks fieldwork) to
explain the reasons for Cuba’s success in public health. Case study provides a strong
methodology for providing understanding of the dynamics within a particular setting
and a rich contextualised understanding, thereby minimising the risk for superficial
interpretation and personal bias. Research methods included participant and nonparticipant
observation, focus group and individual interviews. The original casestudy
concluded in 2006 and in the intervening years, research has focused on
Cuba’s innovative approach to ageing.
During the first week of fieldwork in Cuba (2005) a notice displayed in the window
of a house caught my attention it advertised: “Umbrellas repaired”. Around this
same time by coincidence, I was reading James Joyce’s book ‘ The Dubliners’ in
which a similar notice appears in a drapery shop window in the ‘Sisters' advertising:
“Umbrellas recovered.” (Joyce, 1992:3). In those early days, the juxtaposition of
the Cuban and Joycean notices yielded a narrow and superficial interpretation, on
Memorias Convención Internacional de Salud Pública. Cuba Salud 2012.
La Habana 3-7 de diciembre de 2012 ISBN 978-959-212-811-83
Dr Una Lynch una@sonrisa-solutions.com
my part, with the former seen to be symbolising the poverty and economic
deprivation of Cuba. With the passage of time, came more opportunity to gain entry
into the Cuban psyche and another more complete account of the symbolism
emerged. Whereas the Joycean notice advertises ‘recovering’ its Cuban counterpart
offers ‘repairs’. While ‘recovering’ will ensure that the umbrella is aesthetically
pleasing and in the latest style, it does not, however, guarantee that the inner
mechanism will be addressed. ‘Repairs’ on the other hand will fix, or replace, those
parts that are not working; rehabilitate those that need adjusting and preserve the
parts that are functioning, even though they may be deemed as dated by the
fashionistas.
The two approaches encapsulate the differences between contemporary (recovered)
and the Cuban (repaired) health systems. A recovered umbrella could potentially
continue for a number of seasons, with a constantly updated appearance and still
essentially remain the umbrella that it always was, although there is a high risk that
constant recovering will eventually take its toll. It is, therefore, likely that the
umbrella will one day collapse, leaving the owner stranded in a shower and having
to find a quick solution, most likely an expensive ‘new’ model. The repaired
umbrella by comparison may not always look so pretty, but over the years it has the
potential to be metamorphosed into something completely different and stronger, to
what it started out as. The constant maintenance and adjustment improves the
umbrella’s capacity to meet changing needs effectively, in the process, increasing
the likelihood that it will offer protection and support to various guardians and be
passed on intact to future generations.
The Cubans are interested in public health for the results that are produced. This
utilitarian philosophy is captured in the umbrella. In Cuba umbrellas are used in
equal measure for protection from the rain when they are called: paraguas and from
the sun: parasol. Umbrellas can protect one person or groups of people; they can
also double as a cane to provide support and the pointed end provides a potential
weapon in case of attack or a useful pointer to give direction. As such, the umbrella

A Eoin,
Gabh mo leithscéal as gan d'ainm ar an alt faoi na hemoji ar Nós a cheangailt i mo chloigeann le d'ainm anseo ar Vicipéid. Cuirfidh mé an t-alt ar ais mar a bhí sé (a bheagán nó a mhórán—stíl Wikipedia, tá 'fhios agat) ach d'fhocal gur leatsa an cóipcheart (agus ní le foilsitheoirí Nós). Caithfidh muid a bheith cúramach le cóipcheart: tá Wikipedia thar a bheith íogair ina thaobh.  SeoMac (talk) 18:22, 2 Meán Fómhair 2015 (UTC)
===Obair===
Aistriúchán ar EIPIC
HECT
Scol
IOntrála UCD
IOntrála TCD
Scol Máistreacht UCD
Scol Máistreacht Maigh Nuad
Script Hector
Guthú Aoibhneas
Guthú Hurlamaboc
duais comedy clectir gaelgairi
ppi raidioó raimei, duais oireachtais
Duais de Bhaldraithe do Léann na Gaeilge - mac léinn ar an gclár MA: Scríobh agus Cumarsáid na Gaeilge 2015-16 ar éirigh leis Duais de Bhaldraithe do Léann na Gaeilge a bhuachan de bharr na dtorthaí a ghnóthaigh tú.

Deir tú "níor chóir", ach b'fhéidir go dtiocfadh leat a mhíniú cén fáth?Ériugena (plé) 12:32, 22 Deireadh Fómhair 2017 (UTC)

Hello dear EÓMurchadha, saw your wonderful contribution in Irish Wikipedia. According to the subject I would like to ask you help to translate the small article into Irish, and add it to the Irish Wikipedia. Thank you in advance for your support/contribution and best wishes!

Translation request: '[[w:simple:United Nations General Assembly Resolution 68/262|United Nations General Assembly Resolution 68/262]]'

Obair maith déanta ar Bhibi... ach cúpla focal casta ann  .. shellooghys   Hindooyn, pohllder an çheshaght-ghiastyllagh   srl    Ríomh-aistriúchán  ar dtús b'fhéidir ?  agus níl  Madras i ngar do Kerala ǃ   GRMA
Ciarán   TGcoa (plé) 08:58, 22 Lúnasa 2020 (UTC)

Heileo a Eoin,
An bhfuil suim agat i scéal Eliezer Ben Yehduda chonaic mé cúpla athrú san alt ar Vicípéid ansin. Tá suim agam grúpa "Aonteanga" Gaeilge a bhunú a labhródh Gaeilge amháin i suíomhanaí éagsúla má tá aon tuairimí agat!

Maith thú... ábhar casta ǃ
Scrios mé dhá abairt.   Ní thuigim.  Ní fhaca mé na huimhreacha seo riamh (baincéir mé).   Scéal casta.   Níl Wikipedia i mBéarla ró-mhaith ach an oiread.  B'fhéidir go mbeidh mé in ann cuma níos fearr a chur ar an scéal, má tá foinsí maith as Gaeilge ann.
TGcoa (plé) 00:10, 23 Samhain 2021 (UTC)

A chara, toisc gur úsáideoir Vicipéide rialta thú, ba mhaith liom tusa a chur ar an eolas maidir le tionscadal nua atá ar siúl. Vicí na mBan, nó WikiWomen, is ainm do. Is comhfhiontar é idir Pobal Éireann Wikimedia, Coláiste Oiriall i Muineachán agus eagraíochtaí Vicipéide agus meánscoileanna sa Fhreaslainn agus i dTír na mBascach. Le linn na tionscadail seo, beidh muid ag cruthú acmhainní teagaisc ionas go mbeidh daltaí meánscoileanna in ann ailt Vicipéide a scríobh as Gaeilge, as Freaslainnis nó as Bascais faoi mhná iomráiteacha. Beidh na daltaí ag foghlaim faoi Vicipéid ón mí seo chugainn ar aghaidh agus tosóidh siad ag scríobh sa bhliain úr. Tá breis eolais ar fáil as Béarla ar an leathanach Meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiWomen_Erasmus%2B_Project. Tá fáilte roimh cheisteanna agus bharúlacha chugamsa ar Vicipéid nó seol r-phost chugainn: wikimediaireland[at]gmail.com. Beidh mé ag cur teachtaireacht ar an halla baile chomh maith, mo leithscéal as crosphostáil a dhéanamh. Dowlinme (plé) 16:56, 28 Deireadh Fómhair 2022 (UTC)

Iontach. An-smaoineamh. Sásta cabhrú ar bhealach éigin. Roinnt bearnaí a líonadh agam féin i measc na scríbhneoirí freisin. Eomurchadha (plé) 17:02, 28 Deireadh Fómhair 2022 (UTC)

:Go raibh maith agat a chara, is deas an tairiscint é. Coinneoidh mé ar an eolas thú. Dowlinme (plé) 15:45, 1 Samhain 2022 (UTC)

Haigh a . Thug mé faoi deara é seo níos luaithe inniu. An bhfuil fhios agat gur féidir leat d'ainm úsáideoir dhomhanda a athrú leis an foirm seo? Más maith leat :) - Alison plé 19:25, 25 Eanáir 2023 (UTC)


An bhfuil an teideal ar an leathanach seo i gceart?  Níor chuala mé a leithéid d'ainm riamh agus ag féachaint ar na hidirvicíonna ar an leagan Bhéarla tá an focal "Eurovision" i gach teanga.--Footyfanatic3000 13:52, 7 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

Níor tháinig mé ar an leathanach go dtí le déanaí, agus is dóigh liom go bhfuil an ceart agat. Teideal idirnáisiúnta agus seó idirnáisiúnta atá i gceist, agus ní fiú é a Ghaelú.
Colin Ryan 05:19, 21 Eanáir 2010 (UTC)

https://ga.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plé:Comórtas Amhránaíochta na hEoraifíse 2009


Hello. I have just seen that this pages was moved. I wonder if the correct title should not rather be "Comórtas Amhránaíochta Eoraifíse" or similar. I do not know if this is the normal or declined form, but this is what the RTÉ calls the event here and here. A google search for the current lemma only finds this article. --Kazu89 22:45, 9 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

Well, the reason why I moved it to this is 1./ I never heard the term before and 2./ It only got 220 results on Google, so it's not a notable name. Maybe it should be "Eoraifíse" but other languages don't translate the word "Eurovision" as it is a multilingual name for the competition. It is a company/brand name, and therefore shouldn't be translated. Footyfanatic3000 09:06, 10 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

:Thank you for your explanation. The reason why "Eurovision" is kept in some languages (not e.g. Greek) is that, as a Latin term, it would not change its form. That is for example the case in German and French. In the French-speaking world they generally pronounce it à la française, because the Contest has a completely French name, "Concours Eurovision de la chanson". In Germany it is pronounced the English way in the title "Eurovision Song Contest" (although it is often called simply the "Grand Prix"), but in the Deutsch way in other occasions. In Dutch they call it the Eurovisie Songfestival (official title in '70, '76 and '80), in Italy the official titles were Gran Premio/Concorso Eurovisione della Canzone ('65 and '91), in Spanish it is Eurovisión, in Catalan (Andorra) it is known as the Eurovisió.

:But I can understand that you say "Eurovision" is the better choice since you do not have enough sources, although the RTÉ would be a reputable source for me. Did the former title sound strange to you? --Kazu89 10:36, 10 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

::Hi Footyfanatic. I really think you should move it back. There is plenty of precedence for "Comórtas Amhránaíochta na hEoraifíse". In the competitions broadcast from Ireland (of which there have been many), the hosts have always done the initial intro/welcome in Irish. And have welcomed dignitaries/viewers/etc to "Comórtas Amhránaíochta na hEoraifíse" (or some variation there of). See Cynthia Ní Mhurchú in 1994 (around time index 3:10), Mary kennedy in 1995 (around time index 7:30), and others. Guliolopez 12:48, 10 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)
Now that is interesting. At 0:20 of the 1994 video on the screen it says "An 39ú Comórtas Amhrán Eoraifíse" and at 0:15 of the 1995 video the same "An 40ú Comórtas Amhrán Eoraifíse". What they say, however, sounds a bit different to me, which is supposedly due to the context (declination). What is the difference between "Amhránaíochta" and "Amhrán" and between a simple "Eoraifíse" and "na hEoraifíse"? I guess "na hEoraifíse" means "of the Eurovision"... --Kazu89 15:10, 10 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

Oh well, me again. It seems that it was in 1993 that they first came up with an Irish name for the Contest. The 1993 opening sequence shows us the name "An 38ú Comórtas Amhráin Eurófíse" (see the spelling of the last two words). Before they did not display a written form of the name and you can clearly hear them saying "Eurovision". I think this could be added to the article since it is very interesting. --Kazu89 15:44, 10 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

:Well fine, you do raise some good points so I'll move it back to the old title but to have clear reference to "Eurovision" on the page, as I didn't know what the page was about until I saw "Fairytale". Footyfanatic3000 17:21, 10 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

I have the impression that this article is no longer up to date. In the second paragraph it is talking of the 2008 Contest, Serbia and Dima Bilan (I guess it says that the 2008 Contest was in Serbia and that Biland won it). As I do not speak any Irish, I do not dare to correct it myself. --Kazu89 15:28, 11 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps "Sa bhliain 2009, coinníodh an comórtas i Rúis. Ghlac 25 tír páirt sa bhabhta ceannais (tar éis dhá bhabhta leathcheannais), agus bhuaigh Alexander Rybak (ón Iorua) an chomórtas."? --Kazu89 15:42, 11 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

:Good point. I've now fixed it. Footyfanatic3000 18:29, 11 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

https://ga.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plé:Comórtas Amhránaíochta na hEoraifíse


Plé:Glaonna ainmhithe feirme

http://www.irishlanguageforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1580
(Eomurchadha a chuir an seoladh idirlín ar an leathanach seo—agus GRMA, a Eo! Chóirigh mé é chun a bheith soiléir nach mbaineann sé leis an méid mór eile seo thíos.) SeoMac (plé) 02:05, 3 Feabhra 2020 (UTC)
Cad atá cearr leis an leathanach seo? Níl a leithéid ar fáil aon áit ar Vhicipéid, mar sin cén fáth a bhfuil sibh ag moladh go scriosfar é? Bíodh ciall agaibh. Má tá sibh ag iarraidh ailt a scriosadh, ar a laghad bí réidh chun alt eile a chur ina ionad.
 cu-cú » Cuckoo!
gu-gúg » Cuckoo!
bó = búraighil
capall = seitriughadh.
mada = slabhairt.
cat = crónán.
cearc = grágaighíl.
tarbh = búraighíl.
muic = grúsacht.
coileach = glaodhadh.
cú = slabhairt.
gabhar = meigíl.
caora = méighlíghe.
uan = meighlíghe.
gé = béiciughadh.
lacha = grúsacht.
cróin [.i. cráin] = grúsacht.
laogh = béiciughadh
mineán = meigíl.
éanacha = ceileabhar.
gandal = béiciughadh.
liomhan = glamuidheacht.
[Duine eile a scríobh an méid a leanas]
sicín ag sgreadadh?
asal ag beiciú
caitín ag sgreadadh
coileán ag giúinghíl.
géibhín ag sgreadach
lachaín ag sgreadach[/dh]
1.	Capall	ag	seitreach
2.	Bó	ag	búrigheal
3.	Caora	ag	meidhligh
4.	Mada	ag	slabhairt
5.	Cú	ag	″
6.	Cat	ag	crónán.
7.	Éanacha	ag	ceileabhar.
8.	Gabhar	ag	meigireacht
9.	Asal	ag	sgreadach
10.	Mucha	ag	cnúsacht
11.	Cearca	ag	gráigil.
12.	Coileach	ag	glaoidheach
13.	Tarbh	ag	búrigeal
14.	Duine	ag	cainnt.
15.	Leomhan	ag	glamuidheacht
16.	Cearc-uisge	ag	plubarníl.
17.	Muile	ag	seitreach.
18.	Mionán	ag	meigireacht.
19.	Lacha	ag	quaicireacht
20.	Cróin	=	cnúsacht.
Vác says the duck
Mú Mú says the cow
Bhuf bhuf says the dog
tSíp tSíp says the chick
Caitín Mí-abha
A chaitín mí-abha,
a chaitín mí-abha!
Dá mbeadh agam cíor bheag
do chíorfainn do cheann!
A chaitín mí-abha,
a chaitín mí-abha!
An bhfacaís an luichín,
istigh ins an bpoll?
A chaitín mí-abha,
a chaitín mí-abha!
Seachain an chonairt
nó caillfir do cheann!
An tSeancuach
Bhí sean (a)chuach ina cónaí,
Cu-cú!
Cu-cú!
I lár na coille moire,
Cu-cú!
Cu-cú!
Nuair d'fhéach sín ina timpeall,
Ó las a croí le haoibhneas,
Is chan sí a dícheall:
Cu-cú!
Cu-cú!
Ó, nuair a thit an bháisteach,
Cu-cú!
Cu-cú!
Do bhí an chuach go gruama,
Cu-cú!
Cu-cú!
Ach nuair a bhí an ghrian ann,
Ó gheal a croí arís,
Is chan sí ar a dícheall:
Cu-cú!
Cu-cú!
For sheep "Mé mé" For turkeys "Gugail gugail" for a dog "Abha babha" For the sound of a horses hooves "Trip trop"
mise an traen puf puf puf
mise an madra bhuf bhuf bhuf
mise an bus bíp bíp, beep
mise an sicín tsíp tsíp , cheep
"Grág grág" for caw caw.There are a lot more words for calling animals in irish.ie bac bac or hurais hurais for calling pigs.
suc suc we used, to call the calves.
Bia bia to call turkeys.Beaidí beaidí to call geese,padic padic for ducks.
Mac na hÓighe slán
héing, int. 1. Gee-up! lch 683
doirse 1, int. (Addressed to cow) Keep quiet! Stay where you are! lch 431
seabhainín, int. Call to sheep. lch 1069
saighdéar, s. & int. Call used in driving cattle. lch 1021
staití, int. Call to pig. lch 1161
puis 2, int. (Call to cat) Puis! Puis! Puss! Puss! lch 975
tseo, int. Call to dog. tseo! Get away! Out! lch 1279
cu-cú, int. Cuckoo! lch 335
gu-gúg, int. Cuckoo! lch 678
cuit, int. cuit (a chait)! Scat! Fad a bheifeá ag rá &'cuit as sin!&' Before you could say &'Jack Robinson&'. lch 349
gog, m. 1. Chuck, cluck. [ Int. ] Gog! Gog! Cluck! cluck! lch 656
hurais, int. hurais! hurais! A call to pigs. lch 686
huit, int. Tut! huít, int. huít! huít! A call to ducks. lch 685
hula int. hula! hula hairc! (Call to dogs) Hark (away)! lch 685
hoirde, int. (In urging cattle) Go on! lch 685
mé 2, int. mé! mé! Call to sheep. lch 838
siliúir, int. Shoo! lch 1093
hois, int. Shoo! lch 685
cois 1, int. Shoo. Cois ! Cois amach! Shoo! Is fearr é ná cois, (of untrained dog, etc.) it is better than nothing. lch 273
scuit, int. (To cat) Scat! lch 1068
gheois, int. (To animal) Keep still! lch 629
sturr, int. (To dog) At him! lch 1176
toch, int. toch! toch! Call to pigs. lch 1244
huit, int. Tut! huít, int. huít! huít! A call to ducks. lch 685
vrác, int. vrác! Caw! lch 1309
fuisc, (b) (As int.) Shoo! lch 593
3. (As int.) teith! teith! Call to cow or calf. teith as sin! Come back from there. lch 1229
Léim, ó am go ham, ceisteanna ar an idirlíon faoi ghlaochanna traidisiúnta na n-ainmhithe i nGaeilge. Is léir go bhfuil fuaimeanna na n-ainmhithe Béarla (e.g. coc-a-dúdal-dú) coitianta anois, ach cuirtear an cheist an raibh Gaeilge ar leith ag na hainmhithe anallód, sula ndearnadh cainteoirí Béarla díobh, más ea!
Tá mé ag ceapadh gur chuir na Gaeil níos mó spéis sna bealaí le hainmhithe a mhealladh (tioc! tioc!; suc, suc; srl.) ná sna glaochanna a dhéanadh na hainmhithe féin.
Mar sin féin, d’insíodh Bab Feiritéar scéal faoi ghlaoch an choiligh. Seo thíos an achoimre:
    Nuair a céasadh agus a cuireadh an Slánaitheoir, cuireadh garda os cionn a thuama, agus bhíodh buíonta saighdiúirí ag déanamh uainíochta ar a chéile. Ar an dara hoíche, tar éis do bhuíon nua ag teacht go dtí an tuama, chuaigh na saighdiúirí a raibh scíth acu isteach i dteach a bhí ag bun an chnoic. Bhí éan sicín coiligh á bheiriú ag seanduine istigh ann.
    D’fhiafraigh an seanduine de na saighdiúirí, “Aon seans go n-éireoidh Sé?”
    D’fhreagair na saighdiúirí: “Tá níos mó seans ar éirí ag an gcoileach sin atá á bheiriú, ná mar atá ag Íosa.” Ar an bpointe sin, d’éirigh an coileach aníos ón bpota agus scairt sé: “Mac na hÓighe Slán, Mac na hÓighe Slán!” D’fhill na saighdiúirí ar an tuama, Bhí an tuama ar oscailt agus na saighdiúirí eile ina gcodladh.
    Ón uair sin, tá an-mheas ar an gcoileach, agus díbríonn a ghlaoch–‘Mac na hÓighe Slán’–na hainsprideanna agus an t-aos án.
Is léir mar sin gurb é ‘Mac na hÓighe Slán’ glaoch traidisiúnta an choiligh–i nDún Chaoin ar aon chaoi.
 	Fuaim 	 Briathar
1. Asal an t-asal 	Uí a hó, hí há há 	 ag búireach
2. Beach 	 dárd dárd (siosma) 	 ag crónán / ag giúnaíl
3. Bó an bhó 	 mó mó 	 ag géimneach
4. Tarbh 		 ag búitrigh. búiríl búirthidh
5. Gabhar 	 meig meig 	 ag meigeallach
6. Caora 	 mé mé 	 ag méileach
7. Frog/loscán 	 grág grág 	 ag grágaíl
8. Cat 	 mí aú 	 ag meamhlach
9. Capall 	 uí á há 	 ag siotraigh seitrigh
10. Coileach 	 gogal, gogal, gogal, gog, gog, 	 ag glaoch scairtigh
11.  Madra 	 aú aú 	 ag tafann
12.  Luch 	 géc géc 	 ag gíoglaigh /gíogarnaigh /bígearnaigh.
13. Muc 	 grús grús 	 ag gnúsacht
 14. Cú 		ag glamaíl uallfartaigh
0  Éan 		ag giolcaireacht gocarsaigh
1. Préachán 	 brác brác 	ag grágaíl
2. Fiach dubh 	 grág grág
3. Cearc an chearc 	 gugalaí gog 	 ag sclugaíl
4. Ulchabhán 	 siar han 	 ag scréachaíl
5. Gé an ghé 	 rac rac 	 ag beadaoil
6. Iolar 		 ag feadaíl
7. Lacha 	 úac úac 	 ag úacarnach
8. Cuach 	 gug gug
9. Eala 	 gileog gileog
10. Rúcán 	 piachán, piachán
San Uisce
1. Míol Mór 	 och í och í an mhé
2.
Ainmhithe 	Conas Caint Leo (←) 	Conas Caint Leo (→)
  	Buíochas le @AnDuinnineach
Bó 	Tséith (Tar anseo) 	Huis/ Hó bhó, hó bhó (Ar aghaidh leat)
Cat 	Pís, pís (Tar anseo) 	Cuit/Scuit (Amach as sin)
Capall 	Seit (Tóg go bog é)
Cearc 	Tiuc (Tar anseo)
Gé 	Badaí, badaí (Tar anseo)
Lacha 	Huít, huít (Tar anseo)
Lao 	Progaidh (Leasainm)
Madra 	Sas, sas ( Tar anseo)                              Hulla, hulla (moladh), Dorr (Is féidir) 	Diú, diú (Mo náire thú)
Muc 	Staití (Tar) 	Stait (Imigh)
Tarbh 	Bhuaró, bhuaró (Tar anseo)
	Gaeilge na hAlban 	Buíochas le Akerbeltz
Asal 	hi hoh homh 	[hi hɔ̃ hɔ̃]
Beach 	faruman fearuman 	[farəman fɛrəman]
Bó 	mó mó 	[moː moː]
Broigheall 	gorrac gorrac 	[gɔRag gɔRag]
Cearc 	gog gog gàg gàg 	[gog gog gaːg gaːg]
Caora 	mè mè 	[mɛː mɛː]
Ulchabhán 	siu-hù siu-hù 	ʃu’huː ʃu’huː]
Cat 	miamh miamh 	[mjãũ mjãũ]
Capall 	u i o hòmh 	[uiɔ hɔ̃]
Coileach 	gog-a-bhitheal-ao 	[gog ə vi.əL ɯː]
	gog-a-ghuidhe-ghaoidhe 	[gog ə ɣɯjə ɣɤjə]
Coileach dubh 	dùrd dùrd 	[duːRd duːRd]
	gurra-gùg 	[guRə ‘guːg]
Cuach 	gug gùg 	[gug guːg]
Eala 	guileag guileag 	[gulag gulag]
Faoileán 	gliag gliag 	[gliəg gliəg]
Fiach dubh 	gròc gròc 	[grɔːxg grɔːxg]
Frog 	cnàg cnàg 	[krãːg krãːg]
Gabhar 	meig meig 	[megʲ megʲ]
Gé 	bir bir 	[birʲ birʲ]
	ràc ràc 	[Raːxg Raːxg]
Iolar 	glig glig 	[gligʲ gligʲ]
Lacha 	mhàg mhàg 	[vaːg vaːg]
Madra 	af af 	[af af]
Míol Mór 	chu-sil-ì chu-sil-ò 	[xuʃɪl’iː xuʃɪl’ɔː]
	chuisil-ì chuisil-ò
Muc 	gnosd gnosd 	[grõsdgrõsd]
Préachán 	gòrag gòrag 	[gɔːrag gɔːrag]
https://ancroiait.wordpress.com/2014/02/09/195-gaeilge-na-nainmhithe/
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Rónan Beo
 Glórtha na nAinmhithe?
Fuaimfhoclaíocht
Caint na nAinmhithe
Madadh: Amh! Amh!
Cat: Meamh! Meamh! (Míáú! Míáú!)
Bó: Mú! Mú!
Capall: Seit! Seit!
Asal: Grág! Grág!
Caora: Mé! Mé!
Gabhar: Meig! Meig! (Meig! Geig!)
Muc: Sceamh! Sceamh!
Caint na nÉan
Cearc: Gíog! Gíog! (Míog! Míog!) (Míog! Gíog!)
Coileach: Cuc a dúdal dú! (Coc a dúdal dú!) (Gog a bhitheal ú!)
Lachan: Mhág! Mhág! (Vác! Vác!)
Ulchabhán: Scréach! Scréach!

Gabhar a bhíonn ag meigeallach go hiondúil ar ndóigh. Chuir sin ag cuimhneamh mé ar an nglór a bhíonn ag ainmhithe eile agus ag éanacha:
Gadhar–ag tafann, ag sceamhaíl, ag drannaíl, ag amhastrach.
Caora – ag méileach.
Cat – ag meamhaíl, ag meabhlach, ag crónán, ag cnúdán.
Lao – ag mionghéimneach.
Éan – ag bícearnach, ag gíogadh.
Capall – ag seitreach, ag cuachach.
Leon – ag búireach, ag búiríl.
Cearc – ag grágaíl, ag glaoch.
Coileach – ag glaoch, ag scairteadh.
Turcaí – ag gogallach.
Lacha – ag grágarsaíl, ag vácarnach.
Ulchabhán – ligeann sé scréach as, bíonn sé ag glaoch.
Caróg – ag grágaíl, ag cágáil, ag agallach.
Colúr – ag durdáil, ag corracú, ag ceiliúr.
Cuach – ag goiriúint, ag goirm. 2A01:B340:81:723A:9017:9C1D:9B30:1A15 14:31, 21 Meán Fómhair 2022 (UTC)


Plé úsáideora:Usjes~gawiki

Fáilte chuig an Vicipéid, a Usjes! Footyfanatic3000 22:32, 28 Meitheamh 2009 (UTC)

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 01:45, 18 Márta 2015 (UTC)

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Plé:Piratenpartei Deutschland

An fiú an teideal Páirtí Gearmanach na bPíoráidí a bheith ar an leathanach seo?Éóg1916 14:18, 17 Iúil 2009 (UTC)

Bhuel, is féidir má bhfuil fianaise go bhfuil sé in úsáid go rialta. Ach ní féidir linn ainmneacha nua a chumadh. --Footyfanatic3000 15:56, 17 Iúil 2009 (UTC)

: "Ach ní féidir linn ainmneacha nua a chumadh." Cén fáth?
Tá seo a leanas i dteangacha eile!
en:German Pirate Party
es:Partido Pirata (Alemania)
fr:Parti pirate allemand
it:Partito Pirata (Germania)
pl:Niemiecka Partia Piracka
ru:Пиратская партия Германии
sv:Piratenpartei Deutschland
Éóg1916 16:09, 17 Iúil 2009 (UTC)

Hi, would anybody check this translation please? The data is correct. Its a translation from Piratenpartei Deutschland (08:53, 12. Jan. 2010 ) in the german wikipedia.
===toradh toghcháin===
toradh toghcháinhttp://www.wahlrecht.de	toradh toghcháinhttp://www.wahlrecht.de	toradh toghcháinhttp://www.wahlrecht.de
Diat na Hessen                         	27. Eanáir 2008              	0,3 %
Diat na Hamburg                        	24. Feabhra 2008             	0,2 %
Diat na Hessen                         	18. Eanáir 2009              	0,5 %
Parlaimint na hEorpa                   	7. Meitheamh 2009            	0,9 %
Diat na tSacsain                       	30. Lúnasa 2009              	1,9 %
Diat na Schleswig-Holstein             	27. Meán Fómhair 2009   	1,8 %
Toghchán an Bundestag                  	27. Meán Fómhair 2009   	2,0 %
Ogmios (Tratsch) 10:12, 12 Eanáir 2010 (UTC)


Plé úsáideora:Íochtar

Fáilte chuig an Vicipéid! Tréaslaím leat as ucht na hoibre atá curtha i gcrích agat. Maidir le Nettleville Demesne, is é Netteville an leagan ceart as Gaeilge de réir www.logainm.ie . Tameamseo 15:12, 19 Iúil 2009 (UTC)

Táimse 100% cinnte go bhfuil botún déanta ag logainm.ie mar gheall ar Nettleville Demesne. Bhí clann Nettles mar tiarnaí talún san áit sin ó na 1700í go deireadh na 1800í. Cuireadh Nett-L-eville Demesne ar an chuid sin de sean-bhaile fearainn 'Magh Oileach' dá bhrí sin.
D'fhéadfaí Demesne Nettleville a chur ar an áit, b'fhéidir, muna bhfuil leagan Ghaelainn de 'demesne' ar fáil. Ach gan aon agó, níl baint dá laghad ag 'Netteville' le Nettleville Demesne- dubh, bán ná riabhach. Is 'typo' de chuid logainm.ie é an tainm sin, dearbhaim.

Ceart go leor. Tá l curtha isteach agam. Tameamseo 09:47, 21 Iúil 2009 (UTC)

Go raibh maith agat. Mar gheall ar Nettleville Demesne....


Plé:Oxford

labhaítear moran Gaeilge anseo (nílim ag magadh fút).

San alt :en:Irish exonyms tugtar Ocsanphort mar leagan Gaeilge ar Oxford. An bhfuil fhios ag éinne carbh as an focal sin? --MacTire02 12:17, 14 Lúnasa 2009 (UTC)

De réir Guliolopez (Áth na nDamh) may be the GD name, but commonname in GA and EN is "Oxford". Leaving redirect and ref in place.
Ach tá Áth na nDamh in úsáid cheana anseo!
"Bhronn Ollscoil Áth na nDamh MA honoris causa ar Lhuyd sa mbliain 1701 agus toghadh é mar chomhalta den Chumann Ríoga in 1708. Fuair sé bás den phliúraisí in Áth na nDamh sa mbliain 1709."( Féach: http://ga.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Lhuyd).
" Ba staraí Gearmánach agus bhunaitheoir fhocleolaíocht na dteangacha Ceilteacha é Johann Kaspar ... Würzburg, St. Gallen, Miolán, Londain agus Áth na nDamh. .( Féach: http://ga.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Kaspar_Zeuss).
Tugann Panu Höglund Baile Átha Tarbh ar Oxford san úrscéal 'An Béarlóir Deireannach'; Thug mé aghaidh ar Bhaile Átha Tarbh chun léann mo theangan féin a fhoghlaim. Agus nuair a chonaic mé geafta na hollscoile an chéad uair, b'iad na focla OXFORD UNIVERSITY - UNIVERSITAS OXONIENSIS amháin a léigh mé air, as Laidin is as Béarla, gan Gaeilge ar bith. (féach:http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/gaeilge/corpus/Panu/bearloir.html )
Éóg1916 19:05, 24 Meán Fómhair 2010 (UTC)
Surely Áth na nDamh rather than 'Oxford'? There doesn't seem to be any consistency with using local Gaelic names (since Gaidhlig is the local variation of Gaeilge in Breatain). I would argue that a Gaidhlig alternative be used where a Gaeilge one doesn't exist e.g. 'Londain' rather than 'Lunnainn' but 'Dún Déagh' rather than Dundee.
If we use common Béarla names for places in Breatain then the all Gaidhlig placenames in Albain would have to be reverted to their Béarla equivalent to maintain consistency. Chaco 2 Bealtaine 2013

Hi. The convention is that we use the local common/official placename in the local official/native language. Except where a common/official GA name exists. (GA names must pass the Focal.ie/Logainm.ie "test". If it doesn't pass this test it's Original Research. And we don't do OR). So:

* Oxford:

** Oxford is in England. Where they speak English. The common English name is "Oxford".

** There is no official GA name. It is sometimes called "Áth na nDamh". But this doesn't pass the OR test

** So the English name "wins". We use it.

** (We don't use the GD name because it has no official status in England. Or on this project.)

* Aberdeen (for example):

** Aberdeen is in Scotland. Where GD is an official language. The common/official GD name is Obar Dheathain.

** So it "wins" .

In short: GD is ONLY a valid fallback for Scottish placenames. Nowhere else. Guliolopez (talk) 11:40, 2 Bealtaine 2013 (UTC)
Hey Guliolopez, a good answer but I’m not quite convinced.
Oxford is in England. England is not an independent country but part of the United Kingdom. Gaidhlig is one of the recognised regional languages of the UK. This meaning it has special support in areas where there is a large concentration of speakers, but is still is eligible for support outside of these areas.
There are Welsh schools in London. There aren’t any Gaelic schools because there has been no demand for them there. But if there was a demand, then there would be some.

GD therefore is an authority for Gaidhlig placenames for the entire United Kingdom and not just Scotland. Unless Scotland becomes independent, then the GD version should be used as the local name for any town or city or feature in the UK – if no Gaeilge one exists.
To claim that we should use Oxford instead of  Áth na nDamh   because “Oxford is in England. Where they speak English” is anachronistic. Large numbers of people in England do not speak English as their common language. Over 300 languages are spoken in London alone. English is not the official language of England either (the only official language it ever had was Old French).
Logainm.ie and focal.ie don't seem to have any consensus on local GD names. I’m dubious about using it slavishly as an authority on placenames in Britain because they appear to have done the minimum of research on it.
Why should we use Gaidhlig placenames anyway? I assume we do because of the clear connection between it and Gaeilge. They are not completely separate languages. I argue that we use Gaidhlig as placename resource for Britain often as possible or not at all. If you doggedly stick to the arbitrary rule that GD versions should only be used in Scotland, you are going to end up with an absurdities. For example:
* Berwick-upon-Tweed (Northumberland, England) GD version - Bearaig-a-Deas
* North Berwick (East Lothian, Scotland) GD version  - Bearaig-a-Tuath
This clearly upsets the Gaelic etymological relationship between the two towns.
Chaco 2 Bealtaine 2013

Hi. I'm sorry, but I don't follow your last point at all. Why did you just create the Bearaig-a-Deas article? To illustrate a point of some kind? You suggest that there is inconsistency in how we name articles. And then point to two examples. Both of which you created. One which you created today? How does this illustrate a point about pervasive confusion among other editors? (And - FYI - I don't agree with the name you just gave that article. Not even the GD project uses the name "Bearaig a Deas"!)

Anyway, my basic point remains: When determining the name for ANY article on ANY Wikipedia project, the rule is to use the commonname in the project language. So long as it doesn't conflict with other meanings. It's a basic principle of the project.

The commonname in Irish for Oxford is "Oxford". This is the Irish project, so that's what we use. Some Irish speakers call it something else. But those uses don't meet commonname tests. This is supported by the Foras na Gaeilge project. We don't "slavishly" use the Foras na Gaeilge project, but it's handy for validating when there is doubt or to ensure we're not engaging in OR.

In terms of placenames in Scotland, many Irish speakers will use the GD name. Because of the linguistic overlaps you describe. That's fine. As it is compatible with commonname guidelines. And isn't considered OR.

Using GD names to fill in "gaps" in any other language or locale is OR however and not consistent with commonname principles.

In short: It is not in keeping with project mores to "invent" Irish translations for placenames, people, etc. Because it is not Wikipedia's ROLE to do this.

Apologies if I am being a bit blunt about this, but this is one of my serious pet-peeves about the project. It is not funny or clever to "Irish-ise" Barack Obama's name (it is OR that is in breach of commonname), it is not useful to "invent" an Irish translation for Wolfe Tone (it is OR as no contemporary or subsequent text uses it), and it is not in keeping with guidelines to unilaterally "translate" placenames in Colorado (or any other place), and it is not relevant/appropriate to "relabel" placenames outside Scotland or far from where GD is spoken with the GD name. It just isn't! </rant over> Guliolopez (talk) 16:54, 2 Bealtaine 2013 (UTC)

:Sorry if I'm poking my nose in here, but I have to agree with Guliolopez on this. Apart from anything else, the Scots Gaelic version wasn't even the version being proposed!! It was an Irishised version. The name in the reference is "Àth nan Damh" but the proposal was for "Áth na nDámh". I understand there is a very close relationship between Scots Gaelic and Irish, but they are two different languages, with different, albeit very similar, orthographies, different grammatical structures, etc. If we use "Áth na nDámh", we are creating an Irish language version of a Scottish version of an English placename. If we use the proposed version we are going against WP policy, and we are also suggesting the Scottish version is somehow beneath Irish. This is wrong, morally and according to WP policy. I have been reluctant to state anything before about the placenames in Scotland too, but in my mind the majority of them are also wrong. If we use the Scots Gaelic version then we should use the Scots Gaelic version, complete with Scots Gaelic diacritics, and not some <ahem> basterdised</ahem> Irish version. To do as we have been doing so far goes against what most of us in the Irish speaking community do (use the Scots version unadulterated) and somehow suggests the Scots version is inferior. My rant also over! Mac Tíre Cowag 19:50, 2 Bealtaine 2013 (UTC)
Well my rant isn't over!
Okay, MacTire02  my bad on ‘Áth na nDámh’! I just cut and paste it from the top of this discussion page – I meant ‘Áth nan Damh.’ Anyway, I have no idea how ‘Áth na nDámh’ came about. Another example of someone taking it on themselves to, as was said, to ‘Irish-ise’ a place name. I’m not sure about the diacritic thing. This decision to put Gaidhlig ones the other way to the Gaeilge diacritics was only taken in the 1940s. The mind boggles as to why they bothered.
I agree with you Guilolopez – I can’t stand invented names either. But this is my whole point. While I map out the British Isles, I want the names to be authentic. I put my hand up and admit when I started doing this I created a few duds myself (mainly due to confusion e.g. Stáisiún Sráid Learpholl Are you supposed to translate when there is a Gaeilge word for Liverpool? Who knows).  I do my best now to stick as closely with established names as possible.
And this is why I want to use Gaidhlig names. There is a history behind these names and how they came about. To disregard them in favour of better known English versions is just lazy and cuts out huge parts of our cultural history.
MacTire, you seem to regard Gaidhlig as a complete different language to Gaeilge, when it is not. There are bigger differences between dialects of German. Before the nationalist invention of ‘Irish’ and ‘Scottish’ as official names for dialects of the language, a century ago all Gaelic speakers just saw their language as Gaelic.
No one is talking about one form of Gaelic as being inferior or inferior to another. There are just different standards of the same language.
Just because the Gaelic versions of British placenames are obscure and not in common parlance, it doesn’t make them less authentic. I remember watching a program on TG4 about the history of Scotland and I was irked by the way the ‘Irish’ speaking presenter used English names for large Scottish cities. I put this down (without meaning to sound rude) to a widespread cultural ignorance of the Gaelic version place names in Scotland.
It reminds me of a story I read about the Aran Islands. When language researchers first arrived there in the 1890s, they found everyone speaking Gaelic, but counting in English. The islanders were never educated in Irish and it had been long forgotten how to count in that language. Irish numbers were completely unfamiliar to them. This is analogous to Irish speakers and the Gaelic place names of Britain.
To repeat my point, we should use Gaelic place names (whether that be Gaeilge, Gaolainn or Gaidhlig) as much as possible. Yes, I created the article Bearaig-a-Deas to prove a point. No one in the Gaeilge community has ever bothered to map out Scotland. The resources of Gaidhlig place names of Scotland are scanty, to say the least , but that does not mean they should be ignored. And if Gaidhlig toponomy extends to a few towns below artificial borders, then we should take them into consideration too. These names have real history, even if they have faded into obscurity. The only problem I would say, and this includes Bearaig-a-Deas, often there is no authority on the official Gaidhlig name and there can be several different ones co-existing.
Just because Irish speakers were culturally cut off from fellow Gaels in Scotland centuries ago, it doesn’t mean we should only use the better known English versions.
The etymology of ‘an Albain’ should show why jurisdiction of Gaidhlig toponomy should not stop at the English border; ‘Albain’ comes from ‘Albion’, suggesting that ‘Albain’ once described the whole of Britain to Gaelic speakers in ancient times. The idea of modern borders creating a line of authenticity for place names is bizarre.
It seems faintly ludicrous to complain about ancient Gaelic place names of Britain being artificial. Especially when compared to the risible selection of completely artificial words focal.ie throws up. I’m yet to find out why Gaeilge is unique in having a word for ‘The Blitz’ (An Bhleaist).  Or exactly how and when the Gaeilge speaking community of the west of Ireland magically conceived  an Bhurúin as the name for Burundi.
Comical examples of clearly artificial nouns are endemic in Irish. For a language that completely lost its intelligentsia and was just the language of peasantry in the early 20th century, it has accumulated an enormous amount of scientific and technical terms in the last twenty years. Anyone would think there are people in an office sitting around and just making them up for a laugh....
Chaco 2 Bealtaine 2013

Actually, Chaco, as a speaker of multiple languages and a student of linguistics, I can tell you for a fact that the different dialects of German are closer to each other than Irish and Scots Gaelic are to each other. In the German dialects the primary differences are phonological and a slightly differing vocabulary, but the grammar is between 95 and 100% identical. Even Dutch is closer to German than Irish is to Scots Gaelic. So too are Spanish/Portuguese, Danish/Norwegian/Swedish, and Ukrainian/Russian. As an example, the construction of plurals in Scots Gaelic differs to Irish (Irish has internal vowel mutation, as does Scots; Irish has endings in -(e)anna where Scots has -(e)an; and Irish has -(e)aí while Scots does not have this ending or any variation thereof). Scots Gaelic does not have eclipsis in genitive plurals whereas Irish does. Scots has no imperfective or continuous present tense whereas Irish does (tá/bí vs. tha). There are far fewer tenses/moods in Scots compared to Irish; derivative adjectives in Irish agree in number and gender (compare duine Éireannach vs. daoine Éireannacha) whereas Scots derivative adjectives agree only in gender. We then have many words which exist in Scots but not in Irish, and vice-versa, as well as words which exist in both languages but with different meanings (e.g. we have an article here entitled "Blár na hEaglaise Brice" which simply means "The Field of Falkirk", rather than what is supposed to be conveyed - "The Battle of Falkirk"). Scots uses a dual locative prepositional construction (ann an) where Irish uses a single locative prepositional construction (i/in). There are many more differences besides. This is not to detract from the similarities. Indeed the two languages, in academic circles at least, are described as two groups of similar languages within a language continuum (rather than dialect continuum). It is quite well known amongst linguists, that linguists themselves describe the two as separate but closely related languages, while those who focus more on culture and nationalism tend to view the linguistic perspective with contempt.

You say "No one in the Gaeilge community has ever bothered to map out Scotland". Actually they have. Look to Colmcille and you'll find they have created a map of Scotland, Ireland and the Isle of Man entirely in Gaelic. The local variant is always the variant used, with the correct diacritics. Regarding the use in Scots Gaelic of the grave accent - well that doesn't go back to the 1940s. That goes back hundreds of years. Until the 1940s, both a grave and acute accent were used in Scottish Gaelic.

Leaving the linguistic debate aside, you complain about Irish using newly coined words, such as an Bhurúin. Would you prefer if we used the English word instead? Regarding Àth nan Damh - there is very little evidence for its use outside one Scots dictionary and wikipedia and wikipedia-mirror sites. Was there ever really a Gaelic term or is this also just another newly coined word?

"The etymology of ‘an Albain’ should show why jurisdiction of Gaidhlig toponomy should not stop at the English border; ‘Albain’ comes from ‘Albion’, suggesting that ‘Albain’ once described the whole of Britain to Gaelic speakers in ancient times. The idea of modern borders creating a line of authenticity for place names is bizarre." How to start here...first off, there is no such thing as "an Albain", unless you are leaving out one preposition from the GD dative formation "ann an Albain", or "in Scotland". The correct term is simply "Albain" in Irish, or "Alba" in Scottish. You state that "Albain" comes from "Albion". Actually no, it doesn't. "Albion" comes from proto-Indo-European albʰós* meaning white, of which derivatives can be found topologically from Albania in the Balkans to the Alps in Central Europe, to such English terms as albino. Even using the Gaelic concept, the GD term "Alba", its GA equivalent "Albain" and GV "Nalbin" all stem from middle Irish "albbu" (10th-12th centuries), yet the term *albion in this context predates that by some 2,000 years. Heck, we're not even sure who borrowed that term from whom. Was it the ancient Greeks who borrowed it from the locals (unlikely)? Or was it the locals who borrowed it from the ancient Greeks via Latin (far more probable)?

The fact remains, using poorly attested, probable neocons, in one language for a location that only came into existence long after any Celtic tribe lived in that particular area (never mind Gaelic) as a substitute for a placename in another language, and in the process breaking WP policies, is, in my mind at least, grossly unacceptable. Likewise, we have no official Irish term for places such as Dundee. But, if we are going to use the local Gaelic variant here, then we should use the local Gaelic variant - i.e. we should be using Dùn Dè (official) or Dùn Dèagh (conventional) rather than Dún Déagh (OR). Mac Tíre Cowag 22:29, 2 Bealtaine 2013 (UTC)
With respect MacTire02, you are wrong. German dialects are more distinct from each other than Gaeilge and Gaedhlig. Everything else you say is conjecture. Sorry, but you know it is.
Chaco 3 Bealtaine 2013

With respect, Chaco, and I honestly don't mean to insult you here, but your level of knowledge of the Irish language is poor at best. I suspect your level of knowledge of Scots Gaelic is even smaller. I have highlighted some of the major differences between Irish and Scots Gaelic, but you have yet to prove how the German dialects are further apart from each other than the Gaelic languages. All you have done is state that they are. Prove it. I could add many more differences between Irish and Scots Gaelic if you want. (And I'll put it to you this way, I have been to the Celtic Congress on a number of occasions - why is it that when speaking in small groups the native Irish speakers and the native Scots Gaelic speakers revert to English when speaking among themselves - the answer is because they do not understand each other, ipso facto, the two are distinctly separate. Not mutually comprehensible. Different grammars. Different verbal constructions. Different tenses/moods. Different plural constructions. Different histories. Different politics. i.e. different languages). You go on to say everything else I mentioned is pure conjecture??? Wow. First off, the next point was about the map. Go to [www.colmcille.net Colmcille] and you will find it - i.e. not conjecture. As for the grave/acute accent in Scots Gaelic - you should try reading "Accents, Apostrophes, and Hyphens in Scottish Gaelic" by Professor Mackinnon from The Celtic Review (1910). Again not conjecture - you just didn't bother checking. The next point, regarding Àth nan Damh - do a google search and use the restrictions available to remove wikipedia connections and see what you get - answer: very little, so again not conjecture. The next point on "an Albain" - well, first off you were grammatically and linguistically incorrect with that term, so I don't know why you're even challenging me on this particular paragraph, but here goes: the term "Albion" was used in the Massaliote Periplus written in the 6th century BC (nesos Iernon kai Albionon). Old Irish, the predecessor to both Modern Irish and Scots Gaelic, is dated at the extreme to the 4th century AD - that's approximately 600 years between the first attestation of the term Albion used to describe any part of these isles and the birth of a Gaelic tongue. Regarding the use of the term albʰós*, perhaps you may want to check this page out. Regarding the use of "Albbu" as the middle-Irish name for Scotland - well it's a -u stem feminine noun (dative case: drop the -(i)u and add -(a)in(n); genitive case: drop the -(i)u and add -(e)ann), similar to Manu, Éiriu, "abhu", etc. In Irish, with the exception of "Éire", all these words came to use the dative form as the nominative form: Manu became Manainn (genitive Manann), Alb(b)u became Albain (genitive Alban), abhu became abhainn - still abha in some dialects - (genitive abhann), Éiriu remained, albeit rewritten as Éire except in some Munster dialects where it did indeed change to Éirinn, with a dative in Éirinn and genitive in Éireann. Everything I have mentioned can be backed up by references, even by doing a very brief check using Google. Everything you wrote is entirely opinion based, devoid of facts, and in many cases, linguistically wrong. On a final point of note, if you are going to reference Irish and Scots Gaelic by their native languages as you did when you stated "German dialects are more distinct from each other than Gaeilge and Gaedhlig", do so in their native languages - it's Gaeilge and Gàidhlig, not Gaeilge and Gaedhlig (with Gaedhlig simply being another term used for Irish, not Scots Gaelic - remember <ài> is pronounced /aː/ in GD, whereas <ae> is pronounced /eː/. The GD version is pronounced /ˈkaːlɪkʲ/. Your rendering would suppose a pronunciation of /ˈgeːlɪkʲ/). Mac Tíre Cowag 01:19, 3 Bealtaine 2013 (UTC)

:Bheadh suim agam an t- ábhar seo a phlé, ach ní i mBéarla!Éóg1916 (talk) 18:24, 4 Bealtaine 2013 (UTC)
B'fhearr díriú ar ábar nua a chruthú, Oxford amháin nó le hÁth na nD aitheanta leis. 86.45.12.130 19:17, 4 Bealtaine 2013 (UTC) EOMurchadha
Mo dheich ceint sa cheist thuasluaite - má tá ainm áirithe eile atá aitheanta go hoifigiúil, ba cheart é a chur in iúl san alt. Fós féin, má tá leaganacha eile a bhaintear feidhm as, sílim féin go gcuireann siad le spéis an ailt. Sin ráite, caithfear foinsí a bheith ann, a chruthaíonn go bhfuil a leithéid d'ainm á úsáid.
Caithfear idirdhealú a dhéanamh idir an t-ainm oifigiúil agus na leaganacha eile a bhfuil feidhm bainte astu i bhfoinsí éagsúla.
Ní rant é sin, is dóigh, ach más féin, tá sé thart. Antóin (talk) 09:47, 5 Bealtaine 2013 (UTC)


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